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Can I ask, is this a test to see how reddit responds, because this 100% reads like things some men do online but I've never seen a woman do this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:47 PM
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You should read Why Does He Do That by Lundy Bancroft. Its free here: https://ia800108.us.archive.org/30/items/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf This is controlling and abusive behaviour. This article might also interest you: https://voicemalemagazine.org/abusive-men-describe-the-benefits-of-violence/ And finally listen to this podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/18KhNf1eVrGBith9LtEZXw?si=w5tPC3ZnQt-YzUst4iQ7mw Remember that all abuse involves emotional abuse. If it ever t…
/r/RedPillWives12/02/24 10:12 PM
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I highly suggest you listen to this podcast. https://open.spotify.com/episode/18KhNf1eVrGBith9LtEZXw?si=w5tPC3ZnQt-YzUst4iQ7mw She talks about how subtle control can be in these particular men towards their women, to the point that it is hard to recognise or may seem charming initially. But in cases like this it is a form of control and taking control and autonomy away. It brainwashes you to eventually feel like your opinion on your own body is not worth as much as his, to feel discouraged from …
/r/RedPillWives12/02/24 10:08 PM
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You literally complained. So you do an equal amount of looking after the kids, you take them to school / nursery and pick them up, you get them up, changed, bathed in the mornings, you make them breakfast, you take them to activities, you get them ready for bed, brush teeth, change etc? Take them to the park, on playdates, etc? Equally to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:26 PM
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Such a pick me. Even in comments saying they're mostly happy with their wives shes asking for them to define MOSTLY and what the wives don't do well enough, then goes on about how she would always do that for her husband and would never be lazy like their wives are. Ome guy says his wife became less serviant after the second kid and she says how after having a baby she only became MORE doteful. Like its a competition. It's really weird. Like, is this validation for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:44 PM
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So are you telling the commenter that he should be grateful he gets to spend weekends with his wife and she needs time to decompress and relax and game after work? Are you calling him tone deaf?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:41 PM
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Wait, she WORKS AND looks after the kids, and you're complaining that you have to cook? She's doing 1.5 full time jobs there, one of which never stops. Ofc you should be cooking. Hopefully some nice 2 and sometimes 3 course meals for her and the kids, like she used to do for you. Are you also planning the meals, prepping them, buying the ingredients and tidying up after?. I hope you're also doing the majority, if not all of the chores (as I imagine shes also doing the meals for the kids snd then…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:34 PM
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Why dont you make her lunch?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:31 PM
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My boyfriend dotes on me sometimes, and sometimes I dote on him back. Its about 50/50 and nor.ally based on who has the most energy and time. He often does the washing, especially if im busy, and then I'll make lunch and we take turns with dinner, with the other person washing up. We also take turns going to the shop. He will always make me coffee in the mornings. He will cook dinner often, even on my days to cook, especially if Im not feeling well or on my period. And if he's sick or had a hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:25 PM
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Because if you look at the reasons behind this "preference" its incredibly mysogentic and judgemental. It's implying a woman's value is related to how many sexual partners she's had, and goes down the more it is. Definitely an element of slut shaming here. It's often related to virgins not knowing what feels good so accepting mediocre to shit sex and thinking that's the best there is. Like deliberately wanting her to have a bad experience or not caring if she has a good one or not. On a similar …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:40 AM
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Women don't see grooming as creepy when it's happening to them, it doesn't mean it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:39 AM
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Because if you look at the reasons behind this "preference" its incredibly mysogentic and judgemental. It's implying a woman's value is related to how many sexual partners she's had, and goes down the more it is. Definitely an element of slut shaming here. It's often related to virgins not knowing what feels good so accepting mediocre to shit sex and thinking that's the best there is. Like deliberately wanting her to have a bad experience or not caring if she has a good one or not. On a similar …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:36 AM
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Because if you look at the reasons behind this "preference" its incredibly mysogentic and judgemental. It's implying a woman's value is related to how many sexual partners she's had, and goes down the more it is. Definitely an element of alut shaming here. It's often related to virgins not knowing what feels good so accepting mediocre to shit sex and thinking that's the best there is. Like deliberately wanting her to have a bad experience or not caring if she has a good one or not. On a similar …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:33 AM
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Because if you look at the reasons behind this "preference" its incredibly mysogentic and judgemental. It's implying a woman's value is related to how many sexual partners she's had, and goes down the more it is. Definitely an element of alut shaming here. It's often related to virgins not knowing what feels good so accepting mediocre to shit sex and thinking that's the best there is. Like deliberately wanting her to have a bad experience or not caring if she has a good one or not. On a similar …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:28 AM
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Yeah, and most of these guys are not aa attractive to women.. so men saying it's easier, imagine you're being constantly hounded at a low effort level by women that you have zero attraction to, let's say 40 plus and overweight as that makes us invisible. Now let's say 90% of these women are shit in bed, don't care about your orgasm, dont go down on you or believe really in foreplay, you will likely end up finishing yourself off, there's also a high chance they could overpower you or push your bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:36 AM
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This is such a good point. Women become invisible after mid 30s, of if they put on weight etc. Men remain visible throughout their entire lives, even into their 70s etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:23 AM
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Only because men don't know what they're doing. If it's done right then masterbation can't compare for women either. Why do you assume it's better fot women but absolutely not for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:21 AM
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This exactly. Also whilst you may get 200 messages, 90% are "hi" ir some crude sexual message. Nothing about you as a person or individual, no effort. And as you said, even if you do find someone you're attracted to and decide to go for it, because they often don't want to date first, you then risk being raped. Not to mention that 200 low quality messages are completely overwhelming. There's no way to respond to everyone and then they often get angry at you if you if you leave even a few hours b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:15 AM
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No that's not. I was worried that would be misinterpreted. What makes someone creepy is when they're overstepping your boundaries or not caring if they make you uncomfortable / not listening to no. When she starts to say no might differ depending on if she likes the guy, but regardless, if they keep pushing at the point she's chosen to say it, no matter how they look, then it's creepy. For various reasons I've said no to guys I was very attracted to and would normally have said yes to. The secon…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:49 AM

Exactly. They think that women generally care about status / job etc. And that only ugly guys get seen as creepy. Total bs. Just like every woman I know has been through SA, every woman has also experienced catcallimg, groping, rape or general creepiness / pushiness from very attractive men too. We don't call guys creepy because they are ugly. We call them creepy if they are acting creepily. A lot of men are very unaware how they come across, and the kind that claim only ugly guys get called cre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:11 AM

Yep. They think women generally care about status / job etc. And that only ugly guys get seen as creepy. Total bs. Just like every woman I know has been through SA, every woman has also experienced catcallimg, groping, rape or general creepiness / pushiness from very attractive men too. We don't call guys creepy because they are ugly. We call them creepy if they are acting creepily. A lot of men are very unaware how they come across, and the kind that claim only ugly guys get called creepy are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:10 AM

Yep. They think that women generally care about status / job etc. And that only ugly guys get seen as creepy. Total bs. Just like every woman I know has been through SA, every woman has also experienced catcallimg, groping, rape or general creepiness / pushiness from very attractive men too. We don't call guys creepy because they are ugly. We call them creepy if they are acting creepily. A lot of men are very unaware how they come across, and the kind that claim only ugly guys get called creepy …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:09 AM

That women generally care about status / job etc. And that only ugly guys get seen as creepy. Total bs. Just like every woman I know has been through SA, every woman has also experienced catcallimg, groping, rape or general creepiness / pushiness from very attractive men too. We don't call guys creepy because they are ugly. We call them creepy if they are acting creepily. A lot of men are very unaware how they come across, and the kind that claim only ugly guys get called creepy are the type tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:00 AM
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Well I had assumed you were talking about sex as that is where the gender imbalance is, not in relationships. If anything, you see better looking women with less attractive guys as a rule if you look at relationships. So the women have already lowered their standards there. And men are more likely to say no to a relationship, that's where men suddenly get really high standards. It is sex where men as a whole have low standards and women have high standards. Which is what we were talking about, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:42 AM
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I think if a woman wants to have sex and isn't bothered about the date that's completely fine. Again, why should she have to go through a date she doesnt want just to keep up appearances, when she knows what she wants, sex. A date is usually to find out if you like the other person, she already knows what she wants, so she doesnt need the date. The guy isnt shamed or called a"jump off" if he consensually has sex with women and they just come over without taking him out first. As long as everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:38 AM
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Asked an ex this once. This was literally his answer... that it's just So UnFaIr on men that women won't sleep with them when men have such low standards and would sleep with any woman. So yes, he felt women should sleep with men they arent attracted to, and the fact they wouldnt was some sort of attack on men. But then he didnt really believe in consent so... Same ex is now very much in the "I won't sleep with anyone under 8/10".etc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:45 PM
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If they're "not being realistic" about their standards but either getting laid (in which case thry clearly are realistic) or happy not to get laid rather than lower them, what's the problem? What's the alternative, to get women to sleep with men they're not attracted to to make men feel better about themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:41 PM
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Well if a woman does want sex why should she have to deliberately hold back and wait, just because the man might respect her more? It is slut shaming, men should respect a woman equally if she makes him wait and if she just wants sex straight away. We often don't want to wait anymore than you do, we do have sex drives too and if we find someone we're attracted to why should we deprive ourselves or wait? Guys don't get shamed if they agree to sex on the first date. Most guys would protest if woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:37 PM
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Yes, op said do himself in a comment. Go back through this posy history if you want a laugh / to throw up.
/r/MensRights06/06/22 07:25 PM
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Also it turns out she's right, he had dyslexia.
/r/MensRights06/06/22 05:59 PM
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OP's even said his son has been diagnosed now with dyslexia... This whole post is crazy.
/r/MensRights06/06/22 05:57 PM
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So he DOES have a learning disability? So the teacher was 100% correct. What's your problem with her man?
/r/MensRights06/06/22 05:56 PM
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Even if its not for validation though, finding out anyone you're gonna sleep with thinks you're ugly etc is a big turn off. Doesnt mean that in instances where they haven't been told they're ugly that they're having sex for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:06 AM
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Don't go on foodie calls or take up his time because Chad ignored you. Don't call him with your broken heart at 3 AM. Don't say he is such a "good friend" when you know he is giving you the girlfriend treatment. You're literally describing a friendship. The "girlfriend treatment" is what most girls do for their friends naturally. Going out for food, listening to eah others problems, having a shoulder to cry on. That's basic friendship. It's not using someone by dangling sex just because the guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:00 AM
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You can enjoy sex without orgasming... Are you saying guys sleep around for validation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:56 AM
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You don't seem to understand women much, we don't have sex for validation, like the other person said its fun. Yeah when you're young if very insecure a few might see it as validation but like the other commenter said, you figure out VERY quickly that it is not validating at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:53 AM
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Dude your entire page is just filled with hate against women. Maybe that's what she sensed at school? Get a new hobby, why are you so bitter? I called you out for calling her a bitch and that you clearly have no respect for her as a woman (as numerous comments have done) and you go and prove my point by going into some tirade against women and bringing Ukaraine into it? Are YOU fighting in Ukaraine? Then sit down. Asking someone to treat someone with basic respect isn't dependant on if they are …
/r/MensRights11/03/22 01:17 PM
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No purely because you clearly have no respect for her and you use words like "bitch" to describe her. Save her from yourself.
/r/MensRights11/03/22 12:16 PM
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It's the fact they then get offended if you ignore or reject them... People say they just like to make us uncomfortable and don't expect it to work but then why get aggressive / offended when denied?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:23 AM
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I didn't actually get to do physics A level because the teacher wouldn't let me approach the sign up stand... But I tried to sign up to do it. I'm not sure what you're missing here?
/r/MensRights19/05/21 11:39 AM
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We didn't have our results then, we got them a few weeks later. My point was that he asked me and then based on my cautiously optimistic answer refused to let me near the stand but he didn't even ask any of the boys, he just let them approach. And he didn't teach our year so it wasn't that he knew any of us. I probably could have made a scene but he did it in a "jokey" way that wasn't a joke and as a 16 year old nerdy girl it wasn't really something I wanted to get in trouble over. For me approa…
/r/MensRights19/05/21 11:33 AM
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I chose the example that was the direct reason I didn't do an A level in the STEM subject I was interested in doing AT the fair where you CHOSE your A Level subjects. And your A level subjects determine what course you can do at uni. It's a little different to your elementary school teacher saying you're a dipshit. I didn't make any generalisations, I shared my personal experience as to why I didn't go into that kind of STEM field. I had some good teachers both male and female but THAT experienc…
/r/MensRights18/05/21 02:27 PM
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What? A* is the grade.... I got As and A*s for my GCSEs. Hence i would have had more than high enough grades to do Physics A level.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 02:18 PM
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This was 10 years ago but mechanics was not taught at our school at GCSE. YOu had maths and if you were very good you did an additional half GCSE in stats. Your GCSE'S determine which A levels you choose. GCSE is year 10 and by the way, so age 15 or 16. A level is year 12 and 13, so ages 17 and 18.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 02:07 PM
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Idk about your friend but when I tried to do physics A level the male teacher running the sign up stand (who didn't teach me) asked me how I was at maths, I said pretty good and he said that wasn't good enough and physically stopped me approaching the stand the whole night. He wouldn't let me within 2 meters of it, literally stood in my way and said no. That is the sole reason I didn't do physics a level. He let my male classmates approach without even asking them their maths skills. I got an A*…
/r/MensRights14/04/21 10:09 AM
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When I tried to do physics A level the male teacher running the sign up stand (who didn't teach me) asked me how I was at maths, I said pretty good and he said that wasn't good enough and physically stopped me approaching the stand the whole night. He wouldn't let me within 2 meters of it, literally stood in my way and said no. That is the sole reason I didn't do physics a level. He let my male classmates approach without even asking them their maths skills. I got an A* in stats and an A in math…
/r/MensRights14/04/21 10:05 AM
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Interesting thank you.
/r/MensRights17/02/21 08:11 AM
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Shouldn't you be fighting to end this drafting rather than trying to drag women into that?
/r/MensRights15/02/21 09:13 AM
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Probably because she has had those experiences before. If she doesn't do that then i guarantee at least 1 in 4 of those men will take things too far. Tbh if you're moving closer to someone like that it IS creepy. I'm a girl and if I've done that to a hot guy I've been aware how creepy it is and stopped myself. Women don't attack / run from every guy who happens to stand near her but if you're deliberately "standing near her", yeah - prepare to scare the shit out of her. Don't act like a creep an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 08:09 PM
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On point 2 you will LITERALLY get 60 something year old overweight men with a beer belly hit on gorgeous 20 year old girls. You will get the creepiest weirdos on the street hit on you. Anyone. Absolutely anyone. And then when you say no they just think either that you're a massive bitch how dare you reject them or they literally ignore the fact you've rejected them and keep trying harder, like they can't even comprehend the fact you might not want their gross, shrivveled up dick. So much audacit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 08:07 PM
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Yes ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 07:31 PM
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I don't ask my bf to do favours to test him. I ask him to do favours because it's nice. If he then repeatedly refuse, that's when alarm bells might ring that it's a red flag or he doesn't care about me. I'd definitely see him interpreting my intentions as a test to try and "make him my lapdog" as insecurity on his part, both in the relationship and in his masculinity tbh. Like him helping me out with something is somehow making him less of a man in his eyes? Like would he be the kind of person t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 07:19 PM
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From my perspective, if My bf wasn't willing to do little things as favours like getting the door, whether I asked or not, without me having to justify my reasons for asking him, or took me asking him to get the door as some kind of test to immasculate him or to try and mae him my lapdog, I'd be feeling super hurt. I'd be out tbh. I'd feel like he doesn't care, and it doesn't matter if he does other things, the fact he'd be willing to make this into an argument for the sake of it and wouldn't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:37 PM
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Maybe itd be nice to just do things for her sometimes rather than needing some sort of logical need or reason? Maybe it's just a nice thing to do sometimes. And just because you don't ask yhat of her doesn't mean she isn't willing to do it, or maybe doesn't do it already without being asked. You are not at war with your partner, it's not hard to do nice things for each other. Not everything is a test. But I'd be pretty bummed if I felt my partner wouldn't do nice or caring things for me just for…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:16 PM
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Why for the love of all that is good, would it be fine for you to act like that and not her? Why would any woman be happy with that, if you are not happy with that? Women are not a different species... Treat others as you would want to be treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 07:09 PM
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Men wouldn't be so desperate if women would actually respond Not true, men are just desperate as fuck. And again, responding to over 50 messages isn't realistic. Well then people are shitty. But it doesn't mean women can't complain about dating too. Dating is shitty for everyone but guys like to make it out that women have an easy time and spend their time deliberately ghosting guys whilst choosing between dream man A, dream man B and dream man C at their leisure. That's not the reality at all, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 07:06 PM
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Lying on your back twice a week doesn't sound particularly pleasurable. In fact if you're putting it like that it sounds very much like a "wife duty" that she has to get through for the sake of her man. It doesn't sound like she gets anything out of it, quite the opposite in fact. Like something she has to just get through and put up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 12:13 PM
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idgaf about her emotions as long as she keeps functioning. Does she stay with me? Does she stay still and pretend to listen when I want her to? That's enough. Ah yes, that's exactly what I expect from my man too. I want him to be quiet when I talk, agree with everything I say, cook for me, clean for me and eat me out whenever I want. I want him to listen to me when I talk about my day, but I don't have time to listen to his. If he disagrees he should just keep it to himself. And if he is upset o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 12:09 PM
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Right, so what you're saying is women dont want this crappy sex that op is talking about all women having endless offers for, but they want meaningful relationships? So really the "women have so much choice, they can have any man they want" is just wrong then. They can have crappy sex with lots of men but not anything meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 12:05 PM
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Literally almost every woman you ask will tell you the same thing. It's common knowledge dude. How is this an incel thing?! Go on any dating site as a woman and you will get dozens of messages. Most of the messages are shit as well. Finding someone that isn't just going to abuse you or who actually will take the time to know you or treat you with respect is difficult, regardless of how many messages you have. And replying to 50 messages in amy sort of detail is next to impossible. Especially if …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 11:58 AM
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Didn't you read anything I said? It's not an excuse. It's the truth. If you're saying you need to be x weight or you're not conventionally attractive that's just wrong. Like literally incorrect. Maybe if you picked a really outrageous weight, sure - maybe you can't be 400lbs and conventionally attractive, but we are talking about one significantly lower than what would even be close to overweight. In fact one where for many people that weight level would be unhealthily thin. This is like saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:23 PM
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But that's the thing. You're telling me I'm not, but I'm telling you I am. So which is it? You can't see me, so either I and most people in my life are horribly wrong or numbers are just not a good measure of attractiveness or skinny or overweight. For example I have a friend who is a gymnast and super slim but weighs considerably more than me. I know you mentioned muscles but there's more than that to consider. For example I have a good arse (not disproportionately huge, but decent and definite…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 03:06 PM
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That's hilarious. Dude you're completely clueless. Trust me, I have a lot of room to add before my weight gets too high, my doctors would be happier if I put on a couple of kgs, and I get people telling me I look underweight regularly but please, keep policing people's bodies based on something you know absolutely fuck all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:50 PM
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Also getting laid doesn't mean getting off. Yeah I can go call up a guy and have Sex literally right now, but the chances of that sex becoming rape, or being painful and uncomfortable or being pressured not to use condoms or into acts I don't feel comfortable with, or being used simply as a cocksleeeve and then left without finishing myself or any regard for my pleasure, is HIGH. Why would I want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:07 PM
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So just be submissive and nice all the time and agree to everything your man wants? Yeah no shit, who wouldn't want that in a partner? But it's not exactly fulfilling for the partner is it? If it was that easy we could all just be nice to each other al the time and please each other and no one would ever break up despite probably being incredibly unhappy inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:03 PM
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Not sure most women like being used as an alternative to masturbation. Why would a woman want to just lie on her back twice a week? What exactly does she get out of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 01:00 PM
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First of all - Your idea of pretty is weighing less than 140lbs or 63kg?? That's hilarious. You have no idea what most women weigh. And muscle tone and height and also how you carry your fat makes a big difference. I weigh about 150lbs at 5"7, and being honest, I'm probably classed as pretty hot. I get hit on a fair bit, I know my worth. Probably a bit above average. But the MESS of dating sites is not easy to navigate. You join and get 50 messages on day one. 80% of people you swipe right on ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:54 PM
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So why did they then post it up?
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/20 07:40 PM
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But a woman slapping / punching at you is?
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/20 10:07 AM
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This is probably true. Every film or tv series at some point seems to have them man doing or saying something a bit thoughtless that offends the woman and getting a slap om the cheek. It obviously doesn't physically hurt the guy but I've always been confused as to if that would be or or not to do.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/20 10:06 AM
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A full force punch wouldn't hurt him anymore than a child punching me would. He could easily restrain her and avoid a fight. He could also have walked away. Hell, he could have slapped her back (I say back, she lightly hit him with some flowerrs but ok). The disabled person's intent is exactly the same. And her capabilities to hurt this guy are pretty low.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/07/20 09:47 PM
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You really don't understand feminism or equality of you think feminists / people advocating for equality will get offended at being told men are stronger than women. Everyone knows that's the case.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/07/20 09:22 PM
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She was holding flowers! But even if it had been a shoe, this guy could EASILY have grabbed it off her. Are you really that desperate to defend this clear overreaction and unreasonable level of violence? This is not proportionate "self defence".
/r/PussyPassDenied20/07/20 09:20 PM
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Her strength vs his is probably similar to me (a woman) vs a child or someone with a physical disability. Hence the comparison. So I'm assuming you'd say the same if a guy in a wheelchair pushed gently at someone's chest and got knocked out cold onto concrete as a result?
/r/PussyPassDenied20/07/20 09:15 PM
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By disabled I did mena physically.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/07/20 09:13 PM
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Her gentle slap with her wedding bouquet was not EQUAL to him knocking her out on concrete with 20x the strength.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/07/20 12:23 PM
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If a little kid or disabled person slaps me gently, im not gonna knock them out on concrete. E Essentially the same thing here strength wise.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/07/20 12:22 PM
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True, but it's an easy and unlikely way to justify her being called a bitch with no context.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/07/20 06:04 AM
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So? You don't know why she pushed him. And just from the video, it seems she gave him a light shove and he repsonded by KOing her. Massive overreaction. You literally can't tell who is trash here.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/07/20 05:59 AM
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Ah yes, a gentle push by someone half my size... Definitely the same thing.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/07/20 03:19 PM
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Yeah, sure she does.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/07/20 03:19 PM
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Yup, people calling her trash or a bitch when we have literally no context. But this sub is just an excuse to watch women getting beaten up.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/07/20 03:18 PM
2

It's a guy
/r/PussyPassDenied12/07/20 03:16 PM
1

Frlm this video you really don't know the situation. You have no idea if that's true.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/07/20 03:16 PM
1

I just find it so bizarre. I playfight with my bf and he easily overpowers me whilst laughing. But he still thinks that hypothetically in a real fight, I would stand a chance. Its like he thinks I'm not REALLY trying when we playfight. I think generally women I know are more aware of their vulnerability than men are. Men are always confused by the safety measures taken or the level of threat women experience and seem to think we're overreacting. I iuat think most havent ever experienced truly be…
/r/PussyPassDenied16/06/20 03:16 PM
1

Thats true. I was talking more about the commenters saying in one sentence how much weaker women are than men and being very aware how much they outclass women physically and in the next saying how it was deserved that she got KO'd, "equal rights, equal lefts" etc.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/06/20 11:31 AM
0

This is just wrong and full of misconceptions.
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/20 10:06 AM
1

Even those are low numbers.
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/20 10:05 AM
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Exactly. Even if he says he "forgives" her, that's still implying she's done something wrong that requires forgiveness. Like he's being gracious for not getting angry at her. When she hasn't done anything that warrents forgiveness or shame, she's done nothing wrong. Men who are insecure about their ability to please their partner or who are jealous of their partners past have other issues that they should deal with themselves, not push their insecurities onto their partner.
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/20 10:04 AM
10

I feel for his wife.
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/20 09:49 AM
5

I love this comment.
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/20 09:49 AM
8

You sound toxic af. This is seriously some prehistoric, women hating incel talk. Wanting your partner to be an untouched Virgin isn't a preference, it's controlling and screams insecurity.
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/20 09:48 AM
1

Caring about a woman's "number" is some incel shit. The idea that a woman should somehow wait and deny herself just till she gets to your dick is ridiculous. You had fun. Just as I'm sure he did before he met you. Your virginity is not a prize, how many people you've slept with makes absolutely no difference as long as you are clean and healthy. If your husband is that insecure that he feels jealous of men you dated or fucked before him, that's HIS problem and tbh a major turn off. The fact he m…
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/20 09:42 AM
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That's incel thinking, that a woman should wait for you. You can sleep with as many people as you like. If he treats you less than for that, you will know that he will treat you as less than for anything and nothing you do will please him. He cannot Punish you for your past, epecially when you have done nothing wrong. Also 2 is not a high number at all, its very low! Maybe look at why you think you should stay a Virgin or why you think that would be an acceptable reason to treat you badly or as …
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/20 02:03 AM
1

He could still have easily restrained her. Or put her down in a way that didn't risk killing her. Hell, hecould literally have sat on her.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/06/20 01:34 PM
1

Yep, this exactly
/r/PussyPassDenied04/06/20 01:28 PM
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Not a dude and I would if it was one guy vs a disabled guy, or a small guy vs a body builder. Absolutely. The size and strength difference matters. I also think that a shove does not equal a body slam. The only reason I could think of is if you thought the person who pushed you could be a real threat you had to neutralise immedietly, like if they had a weapon or you expected them to go full attack. In martial arts they say that IF you throw a punch and finish it with that punch if that person ha…
/r/PussyPassDenied03/06/20 09:24 PM
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You've been saying through out how weak women are compared to men. He could easily restrain her, she barely touches him, it shouldnt affect him at all. She shoves him slightly and he hip throws her into the floor. Using a terrible technique as well. His entire body weight lands on her head, which lands on concrete. That's a huge escalation. Especially against someone that "could never be a threat".
/r/PussyPassDenied03/06/20 08:57 PM
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In that case how is this an appropriate repsonse in the video? Surely her push felt like nothing to him. Also I agree. A lot of guys seem to think women are far stronger than they are, and are surprised how easy it is to restrain them. I think it's part of the reason why guys sometimes find it so hard to relate to women saying they feel under potential threat from guys in any situation, because there literally is no real way to fight back unless they get the first hit in and run. Because a lot o…
/r/PussyPassDenied03/06/20 08:50 PM
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Then why is this an appropriate response to her pushing him? When it literally does nothing to him?
/r/PussyPassDenied03/06/20 08:45 PM
0

I mean, I just think it's clearly hyperbole. Like saying "let's nuke america (I know bad timing but easiest example I can think of), no one can actually nuke it, so it's clearly a joke. Vs" imma beat yo ass", less of a threat but still much more realistic.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/06/20 04:51 PM
1

I think in America, Australia or England, where I assume this is from, I don't think she could steal his kidney without being caught, no. Not without a LOT of planning and connections. People can't just randomly go missing without an investigation even if you managed to do the killing / knocking out, harvesting, storage and transport and in a way that wouldn't damage the organ. Even just incapacitating him, speaking as a woman, men are not easy to restrain.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/06/20 11:46 PM
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Yeah I totally agree. Validation for really scummy views, unfortunately these communities make it really hard for people to call it out as well because they insta ban you and the whole group back each other up. Reminds me of a time I was with a group of church people casually chatting about something random and one brought up evolution as if it were a joke. And when I questioned them, thinking that was nuts and that obviously the others would back me up, they ALL one by one said that evolution w…
/r/PussyPassDenied01/06/20 11:42 PM
1

His "joke" was specifically to rile her up in retaliation for her joke. Hers was much more of an almost satirical level of unrealistic whereas his was targeted.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/06/20 11:37 PM
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No. Saying "if you Diss me imma gonna ask trump to personally nuke you" as an average citizen is not the same as "If you Diss me I'm going to come over and knock you unconscious" One is clearly a joke, the other is flexing their power. Or if you like, one person in a wheelchair "I'm gonna run you over" the other one "I'm gonna drag you out of that chair and stamp on your face repeatedly". One is a realistic threat and the other one really isn't and isn't likely to do any damage and both parties …
/r/PussyPassDenied01/06/20 05:36 PM
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Ahh, that's where I've been going wrong! That must be why so many people see this as exactly the same thing.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/06/20 05:32 PM
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One is a huge exaggeratioon of the means for a tiny reward (sell organs for an iPhone), this would never happen, it's so obviously a joke. The second one (selling her private nudes without her permission or putting her nudes online as revenge porn) is something that is really common and a contentious issue. It's almost like flexing his power there, played off as a "joke" . That's the difference.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/06/20 05:30 PM
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Aww you're cute. If you can't see the difference you might be too far gone. It's actually a pretty good equivilancy. If you want another how about "I'm going to hire hitmen to take my wife out so I can have both sides of the bed" "can't wait to get a man I don't like so I can screw him over in court and get full custody". One is obviously a joke with a huge exaggeration of the means for a tiny ends. The other isn't an exaggeration at all, it's a real problem and a contentious issue.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/06/20 05:25 PM
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Her selling his kidneys is something that just doesn't happen in western society. Men using their gf's nudes, does. Its like making a joke like "eat the rich" and someone responding by saying they'll take away their food stamps. Hers is an obvious joke and his is using a real issue and playing it off as not serious.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/06/20 12:04 PM
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I'm assuming you have, but have you tried therapy? As long as you are working on helping yourself please don't avoid dating because of mental health issues. It may need to be something you want to be upfront about but a good partner will support you in that and may actually help you manage the conditions.
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/20 12:19 AM
-1

Ah. Very relevant then.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/05/20 05:56 PM
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It's quarentine. Everything is going out of business.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/05/20 03:02 PM
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If a child hits you, or a disabled bloke, do you deck them back as hard as you can, or restrain them easily? The people that say it's OK to hit a woman back are almost always talking about those videos where a woman lightly hits a man and gets KO'd. Then they say that it's EqUaLiTy. Like women daring to ask for equal rights also means they have to agree to be knocked out by the opposite sex. If you're acting in self defence, sure hit a woman. But if it's just as easy for you to restrain them or …
/r/PussyPassDenied21/04/20 08:20 AM
1

LEANING?!
/r/PussyPassDenied21/04/20 08:16 AM
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This isn't pussy pass denied. And it's not even a burn, it's a shit comeback.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/04/20 08:15 AM
1

Ooh you're really bitter, who hurt you? Do you speak to your fiance like that?
/r/PussyPassDenied04/04/20 08:43 PM
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I'm assuming it works very well. You know how many guys go on these apps and ask for nudes or want you to essentially read or write role play of what you'd do to them or what they'd do to you? It's a pretty obvious market.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/04/20 08:38 PM
1

I mean, this sub hates women, so any excuse I guess :/
/r/PussyPassDenied04/04/20 08:37 PM
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You actually type this shit with a sight face and think you're a halfway decent person?
/r/PussyPassDenied29/03/20 04:42 PM
1

So?
/r/PussyPassDenied29/03/20 04:41 PM
0

On tinder.... Why would there be photographers on tinder? That's not their target market. And how is it a scam if she's being open and upfront about what they're getting for their money?
/r/PussyPassDenied29/03/20 11:36 AM
1

Okay but a SIMP is a man who puts women on pedestals. Which apparently devalues any points I made. I don't do that 🤷‍♀️
/r/PussyPassDenied29/03/20 11:34 AM
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Yeah, I mean I think it is a full time job from what I've read and does require a lot of effort, but yeah, it's not pussy pass denied and there's no reason for this sub to vilafy her for it other than bitterness.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/03/20 01:32 AM
1

I am a straight woman.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/03/20 01:30 AM
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Pussy pass is trying to get away with something based on sex. This isn't a pussy pass attempt. She's not saying he HAS to give her money because she's a woman, she's saying IF he wasn't to see hers specific pictures he needs to pay. Just like you would in photography or for art. There's a clear market for this, she's not getting angry or is outraged that he doesn't want to pay for pictures, she just moves onto her other customers. This isn't a pussy pass.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/03/20 02:00 PM
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Well that's fucked up. That's her business and those photos are her property.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/03/20 01:07 PM
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That's her business, and that's her market, people who want to talk to the person they're seeing nudes of. That's how a business works, if there's an interested market then what does she need to justify? This isn't pussy pass denied.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/03/20 01:06 PM
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How is this pussy pass denied? This isn't even a burn. Her market is for people that want to feel like they're talking to the person they are seeing pictures of, if you're not interested in that, fine, but this isn't pussy pass denied just because you're not one of her customers.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/03/20 01:05 PM
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This is what's wrong with America. You can't just shoot people just because they annoy you. It's a last resort.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/02/20 11:43 PM
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Found the incel
/r/PussyPassDenied26/02/20 12:49 PM
1

How is that equality? I also wouldn't celebrate a body builder smashing a kid round the head with a glass. You apparently, would. But clearly wanting the right to be treated with equal respect means you have to be OK with that sort of power difference and being beaten up with no context.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/02/20 12:48 PM
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Reading your writing it felt like you were having very high expectations of what you should be. And almost apologetic when you were admitting to struggling to meet those expectations. I wonder where those expectations came from? So a few days a week you are basically a single mother of 2 kids? That must be so hard. I think hiring a maid is a really good idea! Well done! Maybe you guys can afford to hire a maid for the next few months so you don't have to clean as much, and when the kids are a bi…
/r/RedPillWives25/02/20 10:30 PM
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You're not giving yourself a break and you have really high expectations of yourself. You're a mother, you must be exhausted. Does your husband help take some of the strain off when he's home? Is there a reason you are still cleaning after the kids are in bed, can your husband not help with that? Your whole language is very self depricating, as if your problems aren't valid or somehow you're a worse person for having them. Be kind to yourself. Practice it. You deserve a rest. You are doing reall…
/r/RedPillWives25/02/20 06:07 PM
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She was asking him to back off though I think.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/02/20 11:40 AM
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Exactly. The comments here are so fucked up. "now she'll know her place" "it's amazing that men can beat women in public with no context - progress".
/r/PussyPassDenied25/02/20 11:39 AM
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Wtf. What exactly is her place?
/r/PussyPassDenied25/02/20 11:37 AM
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You like the idea of a man smashing a woman round the head with a beer glass? Given no context either. Jesus Christ.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/02/20 11:36 AM
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Asking someone to leave or if they're going to let you leave isn't escalating the situation. It's actively diffusing it. How are you making it a full on physical confrontation by being clear? You really show your ignorance here. I suppose you're lucky youve never been in that situation, and you probably never will. But yes, if someone isn't taking no for an answer and its a case of either it turns violent and you might get hurt / killed / it might be much more traumatic, or you fawn and go along…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:24 PM
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Yeah, that's not true. Making no harder to say? Where did I say that? I was talking about directly ignoring physical resistance and no's. And using your physical presence can ofc be threatening. If you have any ability to empathise (which you seem to have some concept of) then ofc it is threatening in certain contexts without anything actually being said. I take it back. You don't seem to be abke to empathise. If you genuinely think someone will hurt or assault you if you resist why would yoy as…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 12:11 AM
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You need serious, serious help. Please stay away from women. If you can't see where you're wrong here I know I'm just a reddit stranger but you really need some help dude. You cant even address my comment or answer my questions honestly and directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 12:03 AM
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Hmmm strange... What world do you live in sweetie? Since when is holding someone down and groping them just "trying to get into their pants"? How long have you just been "shooting your shot" by shoving girls into alleys for? At what point will you call or attempted rape what it is? Also, you so obviously don't know women at ALL (Jesus Christ help any women in your life because fucking hell) because if you listened to women at all (you're obviously completely incapable of it), youd hear them sayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 12:00 AM
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Did I say at any point I was in motel rooms with these people? Try, walking along a public beach.. And try walking along a street to get back to the group we'd become separated from. And try some of these people were friends. Try literally just being in the street in broad daylight. All great examples where id had no previous sexual interaction with these guys at all. Like if I was to avoid all men ever I couldn't leave the house. And even if I had, what gives them the right to take it further t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:44 PM
1

This is actually hilarious. You're just so.. Incorrect, its bordering on delusional. Of course I don't only ever talk about my feelings, but when I say one comment agreeing with another girl about how guys trying to assault us makes us anxious and you outright tell me I'm wrong, I'm going to reply around the same issue. Thats actually what a conversation and a debate is, don't you know that? Usually around the topic being disputed. In this case it's women feeling anxious when they're getting or …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:39 PM
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When someone tries to physically hold you down and rape you, you think its an anxiety disorder? And the second part makes no sense. So I should never go anywhere alone with a man in case he tries to rape me? Thats what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:31 PM
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You know though considering how little faith you have in the law, I don't understand why you worship it and think it would scare many people What on earth makes you think I worship it? And what on earth makes you think that I only think coercing someone inyo sex is wrong just because the law says so? Anyone with any semblance of empathy knows that it's wrong. If someone thinks you are evil maybe it's time to reevaluate what you do, say and think. Its a bit more than just a small difference in op…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:10 PM
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Not all my thinking no, but am I happy when it helps identify and punish rapists? Yes. Even if it hardly ever gets justice regarding rape at least its enough to make people like you scared. Hopefully scared enough to not rape women, and that includes the times where you're not holding her down. You're like the people that believe marital rape isn't a thing... Do you also think that's people not thinking for themselves and just following the government?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:40 PM
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That's not true. Pressure can violate consent by current rules. And its very easy for you to say that women can always say no because you've never been in that situation. Listen to the thousands of women telling you it's not so easy when you are with a partner or in a confined space with a guy and your protests and resistance are just not being listened to over and over. The whole point is that thry DID say no, repeatedly, and it was Ll but ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:15 PM
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Wow do you really believe the 1910 propoganda posters about what feminists look like? Not that it matters but trust me when I say I'm not ugly or fat, and that most guys I meet try and make a move. "all turned out OK"... Like slavery turned out ok. We did that for hundreds of years too. Was that ok then? Well it was to the white male owners. Not so much to the slaves. I'm gonna say that raping women was a pretty sweet deal for the male rapists, not for the women and girls they raped. Definitely …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:12 PM
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You're literally talking nonsense.... Trust me mate, its not my comprehension skills that are the problem here. Do you actually know what we are talking about? Do you even understand what you are defending? I'll make it nice and easy. I said that a lot of men act threatening, they harrass you or pressure you to sleep with them, often in encloses spaces, using "the implication" to get women to sleep with them, and sometimes get physical and actually assault them (eg groping, forcing kissing, hold…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:04 PM
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What part of anything I've said suggests selfishness? The fact I said that men who attack women should stop? I know you won't answer because you don't have one, and if you do it'll be another insane deflection on something completely different to what we're talking about, rather than actually answering the question, but it's a shame because I genuinely believe that you THINK you're making sense, and I'm completely flummuxed how.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:53 AM
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What? The men I'm with don't care how many people I've slept with because they're not following incel logic. who don't realize that men exist and what we want and do matters. What you say literally makes no sense and is almost always nothing to do with the discussion. Your complete inability to write cohesively is actually quite amazing. Nothing I wrote indicated that in the slightest, you can't even form coherant beliefs based on valid arguments... You just start jabbering on about irrelevant n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 02:46 PM
1

You have no response... Makes sense. Also you're the one that found all my comments and replied to them, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 02:42 PM
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Okay.. Next time someone a foot taller than you physically holds you down and tells you you want it whilst trying to shove their dick in you, or drags you into an alley and blocks the only exit whilst trying to forcibly make out, or blocks the doorway whilst consistently ignoring your "no's" and keeps touching / groping / kissing you, try and convince yourself you're just anxious and anyone else would be completely ok with this. Even having someone bigger blocking the way out, having expressed a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:33 PM
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Why does having had more dick make you not better than before? If anything, I'm more experienced, I know what I want, I'm way better than before. If that's the case then women can also use guys as hard as they want. What I'm struggling with is that you think people arent even deserving of basic respect as people if you don't "own" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 01:27 PM
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Well you seem to have it all figured out. Regardless what the legal definition js you have a way to still pretend its not rape or if it is, that its "not so bad" Yes. Please never interact with a woman. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:32 AM
2

You mean guys suddenly have consequnces for their assault actions? The horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:28 AM
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Literally the definition of coercive rape includes pressuring someone after repeated no's until they say yes due to pressure. How can you still think this is just someone's opinion? This is the law buddy. Time to educate yourself kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:23 AM
1

How about addressing the points made?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:20 AM
1

Then prepare to risk inadvertently assaulting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:19 AM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:17 AM
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What? These guys were easy 8-9/10 and super charismatic / social / attractive people. They knew what they were doing. I was still on the verge of running / shouting for help and they were still upping the pressure / acting oblivious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:15 AM
1

The tragedy of the commons.... Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:14 AM
1

Probably... Yeah. And being a wokan can be amazing, but also really suck. Whyd you wanna do that to us?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 10:35 PM
1

Unless I'm specifically only into giving blow jobs what exactly would I get out of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:41 PM
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What? Why would you not care if she enjoys it? If you're doing those things when she doesn't want to thats assault. You realise women are people right? How'd you feel of a bigger guy did that to you? Are you really pressuring women into doing anal for the first time, something that takes a lot of trust for the person to go slowly and not hurt or injure them, just so you can abuse that and hurt them? This is why dating men is terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:36 PM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:31 PM
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Asking for consent means you have to be on thr autism spectrum? Let me guess, you're just really good at reading girls and body language and trust me, they wanted it, they didn't need to say it. Most mena re TERRIBLE at reading women, they think politeness is flirting, they think nervous laughter is genuine and they think anything other than "NO PLEASE GOD NO NO" is yes. I cant tell you how many guys have thought that just because they were horny and had had a few drinks that suddenly I must be …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:31 PM
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A valid sexual strategy is raping passed out or sleeping women? Rape is a "valid sexual strategy"? Why, because it gets you laid? Why not just hold down every woman you see then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:55 PM
1

Are you actually admitting you're a rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:49 PM
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Trying earlier in the night, getting told no ans trying again later in the night, particularly if there's been more flirting since or she's gone home with him etc is fine. But if its another no then its about respecting that, not persisting repeatedly. In no way should any of that involve forcing the conditions to accomplish a yes, that's coercion. Maybe you should be able to draw clear boundaries but you should also be given the opportunity to do so, and should have those respected the first ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:32 AM
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I think you might need to read up on what coercive rape is. Here: https://sapac.umich.edu/article/defining-sexual-assault-1
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:27 AM
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What's wrong with a male feminist? People that understand gender issues and want to adress men and women's issues? Or that address's the fact that your line of thinking and some of the things you are saying in this thread are extremely rapey and in line with what rapists say and do? It says pretty clearly on my profile that I'm not a dude btw. Does that now invalidate eveything I've said?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:23 AM
2

Are you a real person? I feel like I'm talking to a 16 year old boy whp hasn't actually kissed a girl or had a meaningful relationship with one yet. Am I right? Look. You're old enough to type on these forums, you should be old enough to understand the difference between a fantasy and reality. And also understand the nuances of fantasies and why people may be attracted to certain aspects of them without wanting them to become reality. Basic example, some people like control to be taken away from…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:19 AM
1

Oh please. If you're passively waiting then maybe you don't get laid. But believe it or not there are ways or making a move without being manipulative, creepy or straight up assaulting people. There's ways of asking for consent that are hot af. My best experiences have been with guys that put consent and respect first and foremost and were very clesr about that from the get go. My worst with guys that just assumed consent without asking first or even listening to me denying it. Respect for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:14 AM
2

Exactly. Unless you have low self esteem for any number of reasons, like the women these people target, and then this might actually work and is a truly horrible thing to do to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 01:09 AM
1

Those are two very different things ? Pressuring someone into a yes after repeated no's is an example of coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:08 PM
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Im saying that if it was happening to everyone it would also be happening to every woman I know, and section bias wouldn't be relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:06 PM
1

Ok? But that doesn't answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:05 PM
1

I mean I like a dominant guy but there are just so many ways of being dominant without violating someone's consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:04 PM
1

It is if you live in a bubble completely separate to reality because you wont accept the things people tell you happen to them reguarly without a peer reviewes article.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:03 PM
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I answered this more in another comment but yes, its better. Its still kinda shitty depending on how you leave it with the first woman but theres a lot of difference between that and "if you dont do x, I will do y".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:01 PM
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Banter is flirty and cool if it's a joke but it doesn't sound like you're joking. Are you teasing with "maybe I'll just have to sleep with her then“ 😜 whilst also making it clear that it's a joke and the woman you're talking to is the person you're interested in, then that's just teasing / bants. Hell, I do the same with guys, but it's guys where they KNOW they're the ine I'm interested in and I'm not just gonna go after someone else if they say no. Its just part of the flirting / chemistry. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:58 PM
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Its a super shitty thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:49 PM
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Oh God. The audacity. Men pressure women into sex?! Surely not! How is the concept of guy pressuring women to have sex with them extraordinary? Sometimes it blows my mind the things people will deny on this sub. Selection bias doesn't work if it IS happening to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:48 PM
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Then don't have sex... If you're flirting and she actually wants to sleep with you and you're making out or whatever, saying "is this ok?" just before you put your hand under her shirt or "still good?" as you go down on her etc and waiting for her response before continuing, is hot af. If you're approaching her in a club, flirting a bit then saying "would you like to please, maybe, please have sex with me?" then maybe she says no, but there's hot ways to ask for consent. Even "would you like to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:44 PM
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If someone pressures you, you might not have actually said the word no... Literally what examples are you thinking of beyond "she doesnt say no" because you've been given numerous ones that would still be assault and you've ignored or rejected each of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:40 PM
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No thanks. Feel free to link, but you're literally saying people on this thread are saying that regret equals rape and I haven't seen a single comment saying that. So I'm pretty confused about what you're actually arguing about / who with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:39 PM
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Maybe she did. I've had guys forcibly kiss me after I turned away and trust me it was not hot. At all. Guys I would definitely have been into had they not done that. And I also like guys whon"takw charge ". Again, taking charge doesn't mean forcing someone into something you don't want, its just about being in control of the situation and taking the lead, you can definitely do that whilst still respecting boundaries. Maybe for her it did but please, please dont think that women who say they like…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:36 PM
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Saying "only accept positive consent" and "check in on partners to make sure they're still consenting" isn't creating a generation of idiots or spoonfeeding every part of how to behave. Its literally one additional step they should have been taking anyway. They are still reading body language and understanding what people want but they're not pressuring someone who isn't consenting into sex when that person doesn't feep comfortable with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:33 PM
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There is numerous anecdotal evidence of men not accepting "no" as a complete sentence. I could give you dozens of examples just from my own life, not including friends etc. Its like saying you need evidence that women get cat called. Your life must be a challenge if you need a peer reviewed source for every single fact stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:29 PM
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What do you mean by anti slut game? I mean if I say no I do mean no. I might say "we aren't going to have sex" and change my mind later but until I do I expect them to respect and treat it as we won't be having sex. Especially if I then following that up with "I said no" if they try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:27 PM
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I'm totally happy not being exclusive. It's my ideal. This isn't measuring that. This is you being straight up shitty and threatening to go after another woman if she doesn't do what you want. Any woman with good self esteem would leave and hopefully warn eveyone else away. Those that don't probably have quite low self esteem so congratulations for abusing an already vulnerable woman's naivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:13 PM
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Jesus Christ you're disgusting human being. I'd be so ashamed if I was your mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:05 PM
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Negging is a shitty thing to do, you're literally trying to lower another person's self esteem and manipulate them into sleeping with you because you know they wouldn't want to otherwise. Why would you wabt tondo that to someone? How is getting your dick wet worth that? If you're not appealing enough to have a woman want to sleep with you without manipulative tactics and lowering tgeir self esteem as a person, then accept it and maybe try and be a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:02 PM
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If he was just taking the rejection literally and going about his night he wouldn't tell her about it, he would just leave and chat the other woman up. Him saying "if you dont do x then I will do y" is a tactic /threat to make you sleep with him before you're ready. He even admits it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:56 PM
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Yes it's coercion. If she's been open to flirting etc then why not just wait a little longer? You've made it clear you're interested, she's said no, either leave or back off and tbh she'll probably say yes later without needing to be coerced into it through the threat of you leaving and taking another girl. It's like if you have a girlfriend who wants to try pegging, you say no, and she threatens to go with another guy. Would you agree? Maybe, maybe not. But it would still be coercion because yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:53 PM
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There definitely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:46 PM
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You sound like a literal rapist. You need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:44 PM
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Having rape fantasies is completely different to wanting to be raped. Often the fantasies would involve a movie star looking person, not a weird, unnatractive dude. Plus, because its a fantasy it can stop at any time and the woman is in complete control. Enjoying a fantasy of something and then it actually happening, especially something like rape or groping or anything non consensual, is completely different to the reality. You need a break from porn where half the time the women start off non …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:38 PM
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Women for the most part have to be convinced to have sex since no woman ever ever knows what she wants. Please tell me you are not sexually active. That is such bs. Ofc women know what they want. This comment shows absolutely no respect for women as people. If a woman wants to have sex with you she will have sex with you. If she's on the fence shes on the fence. If she doesn't want to have sex with you ajd you coerce her into it, thats rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:34 PM
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Do you need a source for eveything? This is a common act. Every woman I know has had guys try and do this to them. Multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:26 PM
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Yes it is. Legally it is rape. Coercion or pressuring someone into a yes after repeated no's is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:24 PM
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Legally it's rape. I'm concerned about your inability to understand actual consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:23 PM
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Coercion and pressuring someone into a yes after repeated no's is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:22 PM
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Then ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:16 PM
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Literally no one is saying regret is rape.... No one. If you got her consent then there's no issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:13 PM
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He literally just said that....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:11 PM
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Oh sure, next time you're at a party and a guy pressures you into sex you don't want but you're too drunk to say no, or he corners you and youre too afraid to say no / you freeze, or you try and push him off and repeatedly say "not now" etc and make it clear you're not interested and he keeps going, you can tell us how untraumatic that unwanted and non consential sex was.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:11 PM
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You realise though that pushing boundaries, coercing into a yes or pressuring someone repeatedly until the no becomes yes is rape too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:06 PM
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The bar is depressingly low isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:04 PM
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New flash: you do. That's why there's a huge problem with rape and assault and why so many women have come out to speak about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:02 PM
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Coercion and pressuring someone into saying yes after repeated no's is rape too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:59 PM
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Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:57 PM
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Taking charge isnt crossing boundaries and ignoring no's. It's being direct and honest, but pulling away if she says no and checking in each time you escalate. You can definitely do that in a way that is still dominant, taking charge and sexy. Even if it's a case of stopping, looking her in the eyes and saying "still ok?" then waiting for a verbal affirmation before continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:50 PM
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Yep, thrush and things like that makes sex very painful and uncomfortable. It doesn't matter how much you want it, sometimes it's just not a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:48 PM
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I think sometimes you can want some aspects of sex without full on sex, or you're not sure. In the moment your sex drive can change or you may agree to certain acts and not others. I think especially if you've had traumatic or bad experiences in the past, then you might be theoretically willing to have sex but have a panic attack or something in the moment and change your mind. There's nothing wrong with that. Its very easy also to end up being alone with coworkers or friends or other people, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:45 PM
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I don't even get what they get out of pressuring someone who is clearly not comfortable. That's not hot, why would you want to be with a someone that is not enjoying it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:40 PM
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Yes exactly. Ive kicked a guy out before for the same reason, but its a full on panic mode thing and it's horrible. Even if nothing bad ends up happening sending someone smaller than you into a panic attack can have lasting damage and is just really fucked up. I don't understand how guys could think its ok to keep going in those situations. If someone is at the verge of running, or shouting for help, they are not just being coy, you can't misconstrue that surely. And even if you weren't sure, pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:37 PM
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What adds insult to injury is that there are plenty of guys like me, who could be literally 10 times more aggressive than they currently are and not only it would not be rapey, it would indeed be welcome to lovely ladies looking for a good time Wait what? Are you saying you're not as aggressive as you could be or?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:35 PM
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Yeah, I think often you use soft no's first, or say beforehand "we won't be having sex" or something, and then it's really unnerving when they keep going. I think that happens a lot. It shouldn't have to come to the point where youre saying "Stop. No." and full on fighting them off, because they should have stopped at the softer no's and physical resistance. So sorry you have to go through that. I've had guys ignore the soft no's and sometimes the hard no's and it's a horrible and scary surprise…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:30 PM
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I've had times where I've said no even though my body is very much is saying yes, but I genuinely don't want to have sex right then because of reasons (eg there's no condom). Unfortunately a couple of those times the guys have decided that "you want it" anyway despite active protests and resistance. I think even if someone is turned on what they say is what matters. You would say its still wrong to have sex with a guy who has an erection if they are saying no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:24 PM
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Not fake, genuinly disgusted / perplexed that you think one woman commiting horrendous child abuse is the same as millions of men assaulting women.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/10/19 12:18 AM
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Idk if you are a woman buy I'd really guess not based on this comment alone. Women in their 20s are MORE than aware how men treat them when theyre older. They just dont subscribe to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:31 PM
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Its not even close to the same thing.... Its no wonder you're so ridiculously angry of you cant even grasp this basic notion.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/10/19 08:48 AM
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One very sick woman does something terrible to ONE child and now all women need commercials warning them not to do that? If you're trying to make a statement about the gillete commercial this is completely different. If over 80% of children were being hurt by women and women were just excusing it, maybe an advert warning people of the symptoms of M by proxy and asking people to call out those displaying that behaviour would be justified. But you think a rare and isolated mental illness is equivi…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/10/19 08:47 AM
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This is awful but this isnt fucking pussypassdenied. She just HAPPENS to be a woman who did a bad thing. She's not trying to get away with something because she is a woman. You people need to learn the difference.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/10/19 08:40 AM
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Women are more than aware that after a certain age or weight they'll get treated like they're invisible by men. This is a well known fact, not some big revulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 09:25 AM
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If you're still not getting this there's no reasoning with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 03:27 PM
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If you read my comment I said fear of asaault. That doesn't have to include murder. How many men are killed (not in self defense) by tgeir wives? Also what are these sources? A 1997 report by the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics found that 91% of rape victims are female and 9% are male, and that 99% of arrestees for rape are male. Young women are especially at risk. 82% of all juvenile victims are female. 90% of adult rape victims are female.6 Females ages 16-19 are 4 times more likely than the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 03:22 PM
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Assault doesnt have to mean rape. And why do you think "raped just for existing" is exclusive strangers? Please, 80% of women have been assaulted in some way. That's with all the precautions they're taught to take. And fuck off, we all know you don't care about men in any way. That's why male strippers have no choice but to put up with handsie women, while female strippers don't. What are you on about? You should study a module on logic. male strippers put up with handy women. female strippers d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 03:18 PM
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No you're trying to compare assault to people who have chosen to join gangs. You're completely invalidating assault victims and by comparing them with people who have joined gangs you are essentially saying it is their own fault for "putting themselves at risk"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 12:32 PM
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Get out of here with your strawman arguments. You don't want equality. You are literally arguing against people for saying rape isn't the victims fault. You're a terrible person. I would think exactly the same thing about a woman involved in a gang as I would for a boy involved in a gang. I would also think the same thing about a male rape victim who went out partying and got assaulted whilst drunk as I would for a woman who went out partying and got assaulted whilst drunk. Would you? And I'd th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 01:42 AM
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Basic activities. Your solution is for women to never leave the house or be around men at all? Whereas people who join violent gangs can wlso not join those gangs and wont be missing out on basic activities. Also as someone else already said, women are often assaulted just for existing, not because of anything theyve done. I can't believe you need this explaining to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 12:27 AM
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How can you be a real human person with eyes, a brain and presumably rational thought and still think that women fearing assault is irrational?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 12:16 AM
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Casual sex is shit for many women. They dont get orgasms, its often painful, the guy jack hammers away and thinks that's all they need to do, there is the risk of pregnancy and stds, emotionally being dogeared, shamed or kicked out after, people slut shame and tbh, the risk of assault is massive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 02:28 PM
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All those other things are ALSO feared by women. But sexual assault either by itself or WITH those other things are fears that are only really valid for women as a whole. And note that 99% of those "only sexual assault and not robbery etc and some of those murder after sexual assault cases" are situations that would be completely neutral and non threatening to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 02:16 PM
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God this is an abnoxious, ignorant comment. If you're part of a gang and partake in gang on gang violence that is different to just EXISTING, something women cant even help, or going about basic activities like a night oit drinking and being preyed upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 02:12 PM
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If you're talking about actual emotional abuse then dont use words like "nagging" and get your panties in a twist when someone says nagging isnt a big deal. Say it as it is; emotional abuse. Something which both men and women do btw. And lo and behold, people will take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 02:07 PM
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You're really comparing a man saying he'd paint the garage a week ago and still not doing it so his wife having to repeatedly remind him, to a woman being afraid her hsuband will break her arms and strangle her to death because another man looked at her funny? You're deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 02:02 PM
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Idk, I hate not feeling safe in my body, safe to be around men and that is a very lonely feeling but ar least I always have the option to take a risk and see a guy. Seems like men struggle with that loneliness in a different way. On the other hand I am sooooo envious of them being able to go on dates and talk sex and flirt whenever without worrying about assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 01:57 PM
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All things women can do too... And we have a lot of machines to help us now too. If men just disappeared gradually, we would be just fine. Men said the same things about the war. Women managed fine without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 12:40 PM
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You really think men nowadays know how to run a lawnmower better than women? Please. Most men nowadays have no idea what to do. If a car breaks down, how to fix any sort of electrical or mechanical appliance etc. On the other hand with the invention of the Internet both men and women can easily find out for most basic problems. Outside of sex... So having babies, emotional care, support and intimacy, physical touch etc, you no longer think are needed by men? Society is slowly catching up with me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:46 PM
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Civilisation? What? Women dont need men for that... In fact, women tend to use each other for emotional connections etc. Men need women for sex and a support system, children, intimacy. Women need men for... Well.. Maybe safety? I was gonna say financial security but that's not even true anymore. Yeah, physical protection from other men. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:35 PM
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It could be. I do think being alone and looking approachable makes you a much bigger target for creeps. It just sucks. I think we agree that eveyone gets harrassed to an unacceptable standard and it happens often, but maybe some people get harrassed more than others. From my experience I'd say location matters much more than looks but i don't really have an idea of my looks other than average, possibly slightly above. I just know they havent changed that significantly and location / circumstance…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 09:02 PM
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I think you don't understand women , yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 08:54 PM
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Ah maybe. Because it’s the fucking internet lol. I mean I've had this "have you been harassed" conversation off the internet so many times with other girls, that part really isnt an exaggeration unfortunately. Id say it's much more to do with circumstances than looks. Online as far as i can tell everyone gets bombarded. Ive had people add me from whatsapp groups with hundreds of people in where I've never posted, or after i leave one, on facebook out of the blue etc. Tinder and OLD are ripe with…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 06:59 PM
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Actually its a pretty common knowledge regarding groomers, prediters and abusers. Like its a classic tale and those are the classic reasons abusers give for going for younger 21< women. I'm amazed you don't know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 02:13 PM
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People also tend to recall negative experiences more vividly while forgetting the pleasant ones. And they are more motivated to speak about it too. Even if you have thousands of positive experiences for these negative ones it doesn't take away from the fact that those negative ones happened, which is harassment, which is ops question. The amount of positive ones doesnt really impact this at all tbh. The point is there's a high level of harrassment for all women, including in the UK. This combine…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 02:09 PM
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Coming from a woman, you clearly dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 10:44 AM
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So if eveyone has a story, surely thats telling you that the level of harrassment reported on the Internet and reddit is true. And a minute is a long time, trust me. You can fit in a dozen "please leave, no, I said no" etc in there. Its more than enough time to make you panic. Maybe some people get harrassed more than others but the baseline level of harrassment is still insanely high. So why would you go around telling people that only super hot girls get harrassed in the uk? Like its a fact? W…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 10:10 AM
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Bitter much? Women aren't allowed to have a choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 10:05 AM
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No they go younger because younger women are easier to manipulate , they dont have as much experience to compare to and realise when there are red flags and because women their own age dont take any of their shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 10:04 AM
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So it's her fault that guy couldn't take the rejection? And you know her intentions and reasons for rejecting him how exactly? Not that they even sound particularly bad. You guys are always saying "give us the benefit of the doubt, get to know us, it's not just about looks, thats shallow" and when she does that, decides its still not enough for her, she now deserves the crazy stalker? That her "poor boyfriend" has to deal with? ! Are you serious? Literally anything to not defend her. Damn I feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 10:01 AM
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And it's that self defeatist attitude and low self esteem that is the root of all of your relationship problems. The problem isn't her mate, it's you. Tackle the actual problem and you'll find women aren't so difficult to read anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 12:23 PM
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So what were the differences between the two groups then? What level of harassment was considered so shocking to the "plainer" women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 12:51 PM
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What did you do?
/r/PussyPassDenied22/09/19 12:07 PM
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I feel like guys on this sub would use so many hypothetical examples of girls going for yacht guy because "they're all good diggers", yet in your example your sister turned him down. She chose the man she's with and yet he's so insecure he can't deal with the fact that other men besides him have wanted her and the fact she turned them down and chose him means nothing to him? So basically she can't win - no matter what she does she'll get blamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 10:57 AM
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Why had? Because she's settled down must mean she's got no other options and that's the ONLY reason she'd settle down? Or do you think she'd lost all her attractiveness due to age, in which case why are you with her if you're not attracted to her? Do you really think so little of yourself that you don't think an attractive woman would choose you rather than turning to you in desperation? Not to mention the fact that if women don't have other options they often choose to be single. If that's true…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 10:53 AM
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Well in what contexf do you mean "jealous of her past". Do you mean she's in love with an ex or do you mean she's had a lot of sex with very muscular men? If it's the first then yes, maybe she's settled if she's STILL in love with him. For any other scenario she's CHOSEN you. She's not settled, she's chosen you. Honestly jealousy is an ugly trait. And it either stems from not having something you want (which isn't the case here because you've got the woman you want) or it stems from insecurity a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 10:49 AM
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The only "rape culture" is the one where we assume men can't be raped That is certainly part of rape culture. Its certainly not the ONLY rape culture. That's a ridiculous statement. There are whole sections of feminity devoted to talking about toxic masculinity and rape culture and how part of this TM or RC is saying men cant be emotional and cant get raped and alway want sex and always want emotionless sex. Which is why the vast majority of child abuse is perpetrated by adult women, and not by …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 11:21 PM
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When did that happen? What were her experiences and when you say hot vs average, like, what are you talking? Can you give more detail?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 10:52 PM
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Well do you think the harassment that op is talking about and that women complain about only counts by strangers on the street? It happens at work, it happens on the street, it happens with mates, going on runs, taking out the bins, standing outside. In the last week I've been honked at the two times I went for a jog. My friend and I got honked at today when walking down the street (a totally different county to the other incedents) because we were wearing shorts because its hot out. I've been h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 10:26 PM
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That's amazing I wonder what would happen if they repeated it now? One thing im not sure about is the wording. Some of the questions they were asked was "have you made a female have sexual intercourse by giving her drugs or alcohol or getting her hgh or drunk?" I feel this could have been misconstrued as "did I give a girl alcohol in the hopes of getting laid consensually" what do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 10:04 PM
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Oh okay I think I misunderstood your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:58 PM
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Yes exactly!!! And for example with Bill Clinton, it seems his wife gets more stick for HIS actions than he did! Really good example. I hate the fact that terms like "rape culture" and "mysoginy" are so looked down on and dismissed because they are real things and real issues. They're not some "feminazi" made up fantasy, they're real and they contribute massively to rape and assault cases and how theae are addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:57 PM
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Thanks. Wow I know they are anonymous but it amazes me so many men admit to it purely because I thought most men didn't even really think of it as rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:50 PM
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I'm not saying women are perfect either. But buying someone a drink doesn't entitle you to sex with them. It doesn't even entitle you to their time, but the idea is you buy them a drink and that means you have a quick chat (the duration of the drink). It's provided a good opener and displays interest. If you haven't sold yourself in that time and she's not interested too bad. She doesn't owe you anything more. And if you insist on buying her a drink when she's turned it down, in the hopes that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:48 PM
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We are literally talking about being wanted in the context of being harrassed and assaulted and highlighting how powerless women feel against that, and you're choosing to talk about how "great" it is. Obviously most bad things have good things too. When you say you're kinda lonely I wouldn't go "at least you're not being raped". But you're basically saying "I was raped" "well at least someone wants you". Just tactless and not to do with the topic or OPs question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:44 PM
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Wow. How emotional of you. Wtf. When I was 18 the guys in my dorm MADE me dance with them because I hated dancing and that was embarrassing enough but I could laugh it off as a joke. Forcing you to touch their dick is terrifying. That literally reads like the start of a rape story. In an ideal world you could have punched it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:41 PM
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With a username like yours I am guessing this is the voice of experience ? Lol no. I'm pretty slim / athletic and I dress well. But that doesn't take away anything I said, nice cheap attempt to deflect there. If you want the voice of experience I've explained some of the harrasment I've gone through already. I can give you tonnnns more. Except that's not what women want. You have no idea what women want. You literally aren't listening to what women want when they tell you. We want men to take no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:38 PM
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Maybe when you start one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:13 PM
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What makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:12 PM
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That has nothing to do with anything or OPs question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:11 PM
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When you say sexual assault are you talking rape or things like groping?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:06 PM
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1 in 4 women don't necessarily get raped repeatedly... I can definitely believe that statistic. I'm sure a lot of sexually active women have been raped. And rape isn't normally the stranger cornering you in an alleyway on your way home from work. It's your Uncle, or Dad in childhood abuse or husband who is frustrated you said no again and is drunk, or that guy at the party, or the guy you are dating, or the first date. The random hook up, the time you drank too much at the party or passed out at…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:03 PM
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Yes this exactly. And the thing is, it might sound small but 5-10% of men is a lot! Plus they're not all the same demographic. Hell, I'm sure 90% of those men don't see themselves as harrassers at all. They think theyre decent guys who respect women and love their Mums. They think it's part of "the game" and they're just trying to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:58 PM
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If you have bad shit happen you also tend to hae empathy for others who may have gone through similar situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:55 PM
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Nah mate, it happens to eveyone. Even in the uk.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:55 PM
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Well it's not a power or privilage in this sense is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:54 PM
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physically forcing someone to touch a guys dick (in a group setting!) Wtf. Was this in HS?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:53 PM
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I don't think it's just that, but also women just aren't as forward in their advances. If I asked a guy out or hit on him and there was even a HINT of him not being 100% into it I'd die of embarrassment, probably apologise for disturbing him and leave. Partially because I know what it's like to be hit on by someone you're absolutely not interested in but feel bad about or uncomfortable saying no. But guys see it as a challenge often. Like they can't comprehend that a woman might not be I ot them…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:51 PM
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Women as a whole prefere erotica rather than watching the violent porn compared to men. We're less visual in that sense, and often it's more the idea of something that happening to you that gets you going and not imagining a particular guy. That's been the overwhelming concensus of the differences between women and men regarding porn and masturbation material.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:48 PM
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Because even a guy similarly sized to you can overpower you pretty easily. I've thought as a younger woman that I could easily over powr some of the skinny, my height guys. I felt really safe dating them till one day one didn't stop when I wanted him to (he did after a bit) but it went on just long enough to make me realise that I can't stop him. So size doesn't make that much difference at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:45 PM
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I've had exactly the same thing with a friend that I trusted who went out of his way to make sure we were isolated and it was just me and him, it wasn't a date and I'd given no indication of being interested in him and had no idea he was into me. This is a great example of what happens all the time and even more so with Online dating. Women should be allowed to go on a date with a guy without being sexually assaulted. We should be able to have sex with a guy on a first date without being sexuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:39 PM
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THIS is the perfect answer and exactly why we give soft no's and giggle and try to give every indication of being uncomfortable before saying outright "no", unless we feel confident they won't attack us for it. It's terrifying when you say "not now, another time" or something, physically push them away, expecting them to obviously stop because that's not exactly ambiguous, and they act like they didn't even feel it. Then you push hard, really trying, there's no way they don't feel that, they ign…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:30 PM
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"why not? C'mon just one drink. Give me a chance"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:25 PM
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So we should dress like shit, wait for age to hit us and get fat just so men won't hit on us? Except that overweight girls in baggy clothes and older women get hit on and harrasssed all the time too. And except that rather than the mental gymnastics you've just done to somehow make men not taking no for an answer women's fault, maybe men should learn to take no for an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:25 PM
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You can take an active role in asking someone out or hitting on them without then continuing to do it after they are clearly uncomfortable or have turned you down. You can also do all of this without trying to force them to kiss you, groping them or grabbing their wrists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:22 PM
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Tbh it can be both but it's probably either someone you know but not supppper well who hits on you relentlessly on a night out, or it's complete strangers / people you met that night. Catcalling is strangers, people that run up and grope you on the street is strangers, people that dance with you ina club and grope you could be either. People that ask you out repeatedly or follow you on the street atejdnto he strangers. People harrasing you online can be either, however for me, it's almost always…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:19 PM
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Yes, in some places it happens MUCH less often, but some places it's a multi day daily occurance. Online, wherever you are, it's rampant too. As a girl I don't see it that often either in the wild with strangers, but my friends tell me about it probably once a week they screenshot messages or mention people harrasing them. And I've seen it happen to myself and other girls when we've been in a group. People following us and yelling agressively when we don't answer, men in clubs not taking no for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:49 PM
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You're right, how selfish of women to want equal opportunities to get into fields such as medecine and science. What an outrageous ask. /s Seriously? Maybe because women don't want those jobs? But the jobs they DO want they're not getting BECAUSE they're women. Can you not see that that's wrong? You wouldn't see men campaigning for those jobs either if there was a disproportionate number of women in them. I don't see men campaigning for more jobs in nursing, as teachers etc. I don't see men camp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 01:56 PM
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Maybe, or maybe marriage is just seen as less important, whereas 50 years ago it was not only incredibley important for a woman's livleyhiod, but was very expected and not marryijg was very frowned upon. More people are also becoming atheist whereas religion was a big part of marriage traditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 05:37 PM
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If anything changes it's been the older men I knew who have tried to turn me away from guys and warn me away from them, not the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 02:12 PM
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"When I wasn't showing skin / drunk"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 09:04 PM
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Calling the police when you see someone holding a gun out of a window is a tantrum now? Would you say the same if a man had called the cops?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 03:06 PM
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This is ridiculous. Avoiding rape is not even slightly in the woman's control. Let alone entirely. That's a known fact. You're just being completely obtuse if you're saying women are asking to be raped and you need to go and look in a mirror if that's how you think. False accusations are extremely rare. Much, much rarer than true accusations. It's like saying evey Muslim is a terrorist, there are lots of Muslims but very few terrorists. For a man to avoid a false accusation it helps if he doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 05:18 PM
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When it comes to feminism and male violence, I think that's actually more a case of personal experiences of male violence causing women to be afraid, and feminism is now calling that out, other women are speaking up about their experiences, and this is acting as validation of those experiences. So it's not just feminism telling women to be scared and that's why women are scared, it's more women having negative experiences that make them scared, and feminism gives them a voice. With SJWs, I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 05:09 PM
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That article is talking about declining marriage in general. It's not because of men being unemployed, it's because marriage isn't as needed anymore due to women earning their own money. Also there's a difference between an average job and literally no job. One suggests maybe some other unattractive qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 05:17 AM
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I mean I'd say most women have other things higher up. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 02:20 PM
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Oh I see. That makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 02:19 PM
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I don't think so... If you care about someone enough then eveyone else fades into the background. They don't share your history, the intricies that make them, them, their passions or the things you love about them. If you just settle for someone and are always looking around for more then you don't want or really care about that person. I'd rather be single than be someone who is just there as a warm body at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 02:53 PM
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Ha need me to paint me in as unflattering a light as possible because you know you can only win this argument by using bad faith comments like the one above. Proceeds to dish out a bunch of insults to try and "win" the argument. Its kinda funny how much of what you say just reflects your own self loathing. If you hate yourself, fine. But can you please keep it to yourself rather than spreading that hate onto everyone else? Mate. I HAVE diabetes. Please don't tell me loneliness if worse than that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 02:02 PM
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Thank you. And it's why women are having such a light bulb moment when they're realising it's ok to say no and that "no" is a complete sentence. They cna just say "I don't want to give you my number" without having to justify it. But a lot of men then think she's "entitled" and "Stuck up" and "not even giving them a chance", just because in the past women might have said yes out of politeness without wanting to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:56 PM
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Yeah but why would any woman want to be with someone who would leave them IF they had the chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:51 PM
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I mean I don't think that's a good standard to hate anyone against (especially yourself).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:51 PM
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If you truly want a meaningless hook up then it's easy for women to find someone on tinder yes. If you want to be able to make sure that person is attractive and you also want to vet them a bit to decide they probably won't pressure you into sex or straight up assault you, it's a LOT harder. But that doesn't combat loneliness. And I think maybe the thing that a lot of guys don't get is that a random Hookup is more often than not, not enjoyable for women at all. Because often the guys don't care …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:43 PM
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You mean do I think women who have gone out of their way to choose a dating site focusing purely on the people on it having jobs, would care more about people having jobs than other women on other dating sites? No shit sherlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:17 PM
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Funny how women hate jobless men but men are tolerant of jobless women That source literally chose a dating site specifically for PROFESSIONALS, so women who are specifically on that particular dating site to meet other people who have good jobs, and then asked them "would you date someone who is unemployed" and were surprised when most said no. That's not a representative sample and you can't generalise that to women as a whole. The whole study is ridiculous actually. Men tend to go for a bunch…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 05:31 PM
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Why is not being angry at women giving them more respect than they deserve? Surely we all deserve the right to be able to turn someone down without having them hate us for it. And if they do, you wouldn't want to be with someone like that anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 05:24 PM
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I really respect this attitude. The person you're replying to has a very toxic attitude. Hating an entire gender is very damaging, especially the way they tend to hate, which is very aggressively. So thank you for being mature enough to accept that facing rejection a) doesn't mean there's actually something wrong with you and b) isn't a good reason to actually HATE women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 05:22 PM
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I think certain traits trump others as overall importance. You need a certain level of physical attraction, height plays into that. Money doesn't. What even makes you think that women want money and status over other traits? I've never heard a single woman mention status or money as what they look for, and we've had a LOT of conversations about ideal men or what we look for etc. Generally the top traits that have come up are: Height Sense of humour Face Arms Intelligence Works out Tats / facial …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 05:13 PM
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Why pick someone who would pick someone else if they could? And to make it worse, aren't even attractive enough to get them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 04:58 PM
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There's no helping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 04:46 PM
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What part of "well studied and document" is me rationalising a belief? Do you want me to provide sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 02:30 PM
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No, it's been well studied and documented. These same gender roles and upbringing also affect boys negatively and there are traits boys are taught more than girls. But that girls are taught to look pretty and not make a fuss, to be polite and "lady like" at all times, to put others first and be more aware of social niceties and surroundings, is a fact. That's one of the big reasons why girls with aspergers or autism are diagnosed much later than boys. Because they are much better at hiding it du…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 09:49 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 09:45 PM
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What do you mean? I feel like it would be no different? It's incredibly condescending and rude for him to do that to anyone. My male bus driver told me I needed to find a boyfriend to carry my heavy shopping the other day. I think making comments like that is just so uncalled for / rude. Nor sure if its a gender thing as much as an older generation condescending a younger person thing. Although I do think that comment was quite sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 03:02 PM
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Are you kidding? Do you know how often women smile and don't respond to creepy guys / dickhead / catcallers because they don't want to escalate the situation, even though what they really want to do is tell them to fuck off and yell at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 02:56 PM
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Where have you grown up where men are the ones taught to a higher standard of social niceties and politeness? It's a well known fact that women are generally brought up to be overly polite and forgiving. Women are the ones who are taught to clean up after eveyone else while the guys sit back, women are the ones who are taught not to make a fuss and put other people first. Women are the ones who must not show their bra straps etc because it's too distracting, or who shouldn't swear or complain be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 02:54 PM
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This is an issue the other way round too. Its just hard for adults in general to meet. Women have the same issues you described. At Uni everyone is single, has lots of time and loves around each other. So you meet people at clubs and societies and events, you go out together, you live together. You throw house parties and invite your friends and then your flatmates invite their friends etc. So you meet new, eligible, young people all the time without even leaving the house or having to try. As a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 06:51 AM
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Damn agriculture!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:54 PM
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No, he still would. Just because they're less attractive doesn't mean they're a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:45 PM
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But instead of accepting that a lot get angry at us for not lowering our standards. I've also learned that going for the less attractive but "nicer" guy also doesn't work, because as said before, many men are shit regardless of what they look like and then you just end up with a "nice guy" who treats you like crap, so you may as well go for the one you actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:43 PM
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I agree with the height thing completely. I very much disagree with "women have been conditioned to lie about being attracted to status and money". Most women do not care much about status or money, as long as you have some ambition and earn enough to live off, but that's more a general sign that you are willing to go out and do things, take responsibility for your life and won't be scrounging off us. It's not a case of lying, I just think that since women started working and having equal rights…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:38 PM
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You're right. Half of yours were daily mail sources and your entire argument was "loneliness from lack of sex is worse than being assaulted". This isn't comparable at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:34 AM
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"What is she talking about? Women ARE dogs, and women DO deserve to be catcalled because... look at this snapchat filter!" That is the whole post. That is literally the title, it's the comments. That's the whole point of that post. Its not a woman saying she isn't a dog, it's saying she doesn't want to be catcalled. Picture of women with dog filter on. Title: and they say they don't want to be treated like dogs / cat called but yet they dress up like dogs. Therefore cat calling them is fine. "Hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:32 AM
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First it was that they deserve to be catcalled, now it is that they aren't allowed to complain about being catcalled? You really are wanting everything spelled out aren't you? If you're saying they shouldn't complain about being cat called because they had a filter on in a random photo, then you're saying they deserve to be cat called. Black people shouldn't complain about racism because they can be loud in movie thearters sometimes. So therefore they deserve racism. If we break it down into log…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 12:25 AM
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Ah so you're just replying to other people's comments. I see. Fine read THEIR comment again. Better?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:58 PM
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You don't see how this is saying that women should stop complaining about being catcalled? What I find hysterical is the articles written by women complaining that men no longer cat-call them. What do they really want? They don't even know what they want themselves Attention, in any form. Whether it be through cat calling or via victim hood. Lmao not even a crackhead would catcall this girl holding a poster. http://www.returnofkings.com/114686/do-girls-who-wear-chokers-want-to-be-treated-like-do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 10:10 AM
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I never said it was just you. That doesn't take away from the fact that as I said, many many men will never give up sex voluntarily. I don't see you denying it. It doesn't matter if 90% of you give up sex, if your point is you'll drive us to extinction the that's never gonna happen due to the 10%. Honey, you're the one who said that all men were going to "not give us children" (like we even need to have sex for that anymore ha). And now you're saying you don't care. That's fine, neither do I. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 10:03 AM
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What I find hysterical is the articles written by women complaining that men no longer cat-call them. What do they really want? They don't even know what they want themselves Attention, in any form. Whether it be through cat calling or via victim hood. Lmao not even a crackhead would catcall this girl holding a poster. No she's not a dog. Cause she's a bitch. Dogs are loyal. Women are children. End of story Don't forget the use of chokers which literally mirror dog leashes: http://www.returnofki…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 09:58 AM
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Read your comment again. Then again. Then explain how this was meant to be taken in any other way. Just face it, you wrote an incredible vulgar thing and people called you out on it. And instead of acknowledging that you're just pretending you didn't and that everyone else is seeing things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 09:57 AM
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I'm not adding ANY projected content. I'm literally repeating the first few comments on that thread. If you don't like what you see, maybe youre not looking at that sub properly. What I find hysterical is the articles written by women complaining that men no longer cat-call them. What do they really want? They don't even know what they want themselves Attention, in any form. Whether it be through cat calling or via victim hood. Lmao not even a crackhead would catcall this girl holding a poster. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 09:43 AM
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"funny". Its saying its ok to whistle at, cat call and treat these women as animals, as well as refer to them as bitches or dogs, because they what? They posted a pic with a Snapchat filter on once upon a time? None of that is projected. Everything I just said is either in the title, or the first few comments. You can't be this delusional. You must see this is fucked up?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:51 PM
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Definitely not just me. Other people pointed this out too and you got equally defensive / offensive. Is personally attacking someone with projected statements rather than addressing a point your main strategy? You do realise this is a debating sub right? I genuinely believe you have mental issues. Honey, you literally said men would be justified in murdering their spouse and child if they discovered the kid wasn't theirs. And now you're trying to back track.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:47 PM
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Yeah... I was more just linking your post so he would see it? Didn't feel it was my place to share the messages when he might not want to get into that. But tagging seemed the easiest way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:42 PM
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Men might not care about extinction and YOU might not care about sex, but the majority of men would not give up sex full stop for pretty much anything. There are literally thousands of men begging, literally begging, harrasing, pleading for sex right at this moment. These men have no self respect when it comes to sex. Many do, but many, many don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:40 PM
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If they're going to hate women they shouldn't pretend it's a group about men going their own way. It's a hate group. You just notice the hateful ones more. Almost every single post is filled with hatred against women. It's not about men doing their own thing at all. There's literally one up right now with 1k upvotes about how women are dogs and bitches and so catcalling them should be acceptable. Why? Because a few women joined the Snapchat filter trend a few years ago. What does that have to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:33 PM
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So what you're saying is that men can't control their feelings and are too emotional and weak, and so it's ok if they kill their spouse and baby if they find out its not theirs? I mean for either option, murder wouldn't be an option for me. It shouldn't be for anyone. If someone cheated I'd be hurt, but I'm not gonna blame an innocent kid for it. If I decided to stay with that person ofc I'd raise the kid. If I couldn't handle being with that person I'd leave. At no point would I start threateni…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:32 PM
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Right, but I'm talking about more than one incident? Like in general, almost every single post is filled with hatred against women. It's not about men doing their own thing at all. There's literally one up right now with 1k upvotes about how women are dogs and bitches and so catcalling them should be acceptable. Why? Because a few women joined the Snapchat filter trend a few years ago. What does that have to do with men going their own way? Nothing. What does it have to do with an excuse to hate…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:20 PM
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Your post is obviously justifying murder as well as murdering a baby. Seriously read it again. You can't say shit like that and then backtrack. If several people have read what you said and interpreted it the same way, it's not "some weird obsession", it means you probably wrote something that contained malice. Rather than getting defensive and attacking people for pointing out what you said (and how bloody awful it is), why don't you just apologise, aknowledge that it came across very badly and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:13 PM
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He's been private messaging me with a bunch of "statistics" about how men have eveything worse than women and how women are evil. I thought this might provide a more accurate comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:08 PM
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u/redfoots-revenge. How do these compare to your "statistics"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:50 AM
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Literally your entire post was a justification of it. The visceral fear and disgust a man feels when it comes to being cuckolded.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:14 PM
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"I'd kill you and a baby" "that's a line you don't cross" Are you serious? In the same paragraph. The audacity. Murder is a line you don't cross. So would you say it's justifiable for me to murder you and your baby if you were to have a one night stand with a woman while we were together?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:12 PM
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That would be nice if most were indifferent. Most of the comments though do not seem Indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:10 PM
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Maybe, but it's not "men going their own way", it's bitter men hating on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:09 PM
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I have nothing against men in general. I'm just not a fan of the ones either living in denial, or that are blaming women for the many assaults and risks women face. Everyone else is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:07 PM
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Even supporting the woman through pregnancy is so reprehensible that it has driven men to murder their spouse once the baby was born. So breaking what you said down the smallest amount possible: "Supporting a women through pregnancy (when it's not your child, aka "parental fraud") is so reprehensible that IT (again "parental fraud") has DRIVEN men to murder their spouse once the baby was born." You literally said that women committing "parental fraud" causes men to murder them and the baby, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:04 PM
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What are you talking about? A baby strike? That's hilarious. Men as a whole will not give up condomless sex if the world depended on it. Besides what does that have to do with anything I said? I was literally repeating his statement back to him with the content adjusted slightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 08:59 PM
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Mate I've been on MGTOW a fair bit because I agree with the principle of if guys want to do their own thing and celebrate being guys, more power to them. But this is not that. It's another sub where incels and other people gather to hate on women. Even posts where the title or content is about men doing their own thing, the comment section is instantly FILLED with hate speech against women, including all the slurs and derogitory names mentioned above. To say that sub is not predominantly a hate …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 08:56 PM
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They're saying that maybe men have it worse in one aspect of the "we can't guarantee who the father is" ball park of how biology works due to women being the ones who get pregnant. But on the other hand being the one who gets pregnant also has serious downsides too. Two sides of the same coin of "women are the ones who get pregnant". Cmon how do you not see that? Are you being deliberately dense?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:26 AM
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Oh yes, completely justifiable. These women DROVE the guy to murdering them and their baby. Do you hear what you are saying? Besides, it's a kid. A baby. Surely anyone with a wider emotional range than a plate could care for a kid, whether it's yours or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:20 AM
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So that's what? Discrimination against men? Someone tell him that men dont have to go through the trauma of childbirth and their body will stay the same no matter how many kds they spawn. This is such an irrelevant argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:10 AM
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You're so far in denial there's no discussing with you, exactly what the post above is describing. You're asking for evidence and then completly discounting it. Arrle you really saying all those posts count for nothing? Because to women and other men reading them they sure sound a lot like sexism and hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:02 AM
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Yeah I got perma banned too, don't remember what for but probably something very similar. I think I asked a genuine question and instead of answering me they just banned me. I think anybody saying that MGTOW isn't a hate group is delusional and I'd challenge them to make an alt account as a woman and see if they still think that later. Having spoke to some their lives seem genuinly miserable. I'd let them go their own way and deal with their shitty lives by themselves but they can't seem to do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 11:27 PM
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Dependant on male protection FROM other males? Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 11:18 PM
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Yes exactly. It's ALL about women. Then they say we're good manipulators... Because they can't seem to stop thinking about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 11:15 PM
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No it's because MGTOW hate women. "natural manipulators". What rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 11:13 PM
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Of course you call women females.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 11:12 PM
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No she's right. They do a lot of derogitory name calling on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 11:04 PM
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Yep, when I was younger, foolish and more naive, before I knew what it was, someone was getting blasted on another sub for being an avid MGTOW poster. He said it was a good sub, they didn't hate women, and challenged anyone to go on and try to have a rational discussion with the people there and said we'd get solid, logical, emotionless discussions and they'd be more than willing to debate and absolutely did not just hate on women. Well I made one, completely neutral comment and woke up to a ton…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 10:58 PM
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What are you saying then? I'm reading it as "men don't really believe in feminism, they just want women to like them, so they pretend to agree with what will keep women happy".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 10:50 PM
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Yeah this is hilarious. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's like when gays were causing nautrual disasters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 06:38 PM
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So what you're saying is all the men in the feminist movement are just whiteknighting hoping someone will have sex with them for pretending to be involved? I don't think that's true at all. I'm sure there are some guys that say what women want to hear and secretly hold mysoginistic views etc. But a lot of guys I've met genuinly follow and believe in feminism. They're sick of the inequality, on both sides in different aspects of life, they're sick of having to live up to certain gender roles, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 06:35 PM
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the kid was unplanned. I don't really get why you mentioned that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 06:26 PM
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Because feminism is also about equality. No one is saying men don't have problems and can't go their own way. Feminism is fully supporting that. But MGTOW is just hating on women: almost all the posts on there are just attacking women for arbitury or hypothetical reasons, and for a group supposedly "going their own way" are weirdly obsessed with women. They're not celebrating men, they're just tearing women down and creating bitter anti women circles. Feminism is about equality for all and is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 06:21 PM
1

Wow so even if you could masturbate and cum from that, just not having sex for a year would make you resort to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 11:03 AM
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So not only do you think 1 in 5 men are rapist, but you think the other 4 in 5 will refuse to believe women in any circumstance? Dude... I was using your numbers for the hypothetical scenario. Obviously the numbers aren't accurate, but they're a good analogy. Honestly.... Yes, most of the men on here are outright refusing to believe women. That is a huge part of most arguments I've seen against the metoo movement, against feminism, against women taking basic precautions, against acknowledging th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 12:25 AM
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We really don't have that little rape. And 80% of women have been sexually assaulted. Hmm considering all I said was that the damage done by raping someone was not akin to stealing their toys and you started name calling, I'm gonna say that I'M not the bigot in this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 11:49 PM
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I haven't seen anyone say that all men have bad intentions. Maybe they do and I didnt notice but I'm a pretty avid feminist, I believe in equality for men and women, and I haven't seen that. I've seen a lot of women say "a lot of men have bad intentions" and guys REACTING as though they'd said all guys do. Like when that Gillette advert came out. A lot of people acted like it was saying all men were rapists. It absolutely wasn't. It was saying that some are, that there IS a rape culture, it's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 09:54 PM
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Yes except this wouldn't be going out into a dodgy part of Chicago, it would be just existing. And 20% is still 1 in 5 men. It's like us saying to a group of 5 men "that guy did this to me" and then the other 4 going "you're making it up. I didnt see it happen. Why are you afraid, why don't you trust us? We wouldnt do that. You're so entitled". In fact, it's like all 5 saying that and the loudest and angriest is the guy who did it. What I'm trying to say that this 1 in 5 guy IS a typical man. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 09:30 PM
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why do the other 20 have to feel the punishment along with those 10? Why do we have to be called rapists and abusers when we did nothing to deserve those kinds of titles? This is where the fundamental misunderstanding occurs in most of these discussions. No one is saying ALL men are rapists. They're saying a good amount are. More than you think. It's not uncommon. And because of that, and because they don't all meet the profile of "villain with a scar down one cheek and a hook for a hand" but ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 07:06 PM
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Yeah maybe. But just wanted to say that's comparing it to stealing is just ridiculous. Your comment highlights that pretty well!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 05:46 PM
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Is it a biased sample when it's literally tens of guys per woman? Like if each woman has 60 experiences in her lifetime (not including catcalling) maybe that's just 60 guys out of all the guys she knows, but it's a huge variety of types of men (not always the same profile) and it's still a lot. And some of these might be "tame" like perisstance or groping and some might be rape or threat of violence. And because it includes a lot of totally normal seeming guys there's just no way of knowing whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 05:43 PM
2

Are you normally into men? Also even if he was bigger than you? Also you could masturbate just shed be saying no to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 05:02 PM
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What is AMALT? And yes, they're delusional or completely ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 04:58 PM
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This is a good answer. A lot of our morality comes from living in a society. Our morals are arguably there to protect our society. We don't always agree internally with the rules of society. If the norms of society are taken away then people can reevaluate their own terms of morality. With no consequences, no one to maintain the rules and keep people in line, then maybe they'll just do what they want. Also, if you are hungry you might steal food even if you never thought you would. If you are dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 04:56 PM
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Stealing and rape are completely different things. A more akin comparison might be women beating the shit out of a man if it meant the could use a vibrator for half an hour. I don't think many women would do that. I still think a lot of guys would rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 04:50 PM
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Hell just look at the army.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 04:48 PM
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It's not about a choice of guy. Most of the time these are guys we are turning down. It's about getting constant exposure to this kind of behaviour depaite and especially BECAUSE we're saying no. But of course you blame us. Because that makes it easier than accepting that the reason women are saying a lot of guys are like this is because a lot of guys are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 04:41 PM
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Maybe because we've had so many situations where the guy has got really rapey the second we or they had a drink or there were no other people around. I've been on an island before, not stranded, but there's only so many places to go and not many witnesses. I literally had five different guys get supppper rapey there. In ONE night. Completely unrelated to each other, they didn't even see each other. Normal, good looking, popular, educated guys who had lives, jobs, families back home. I wasn't dru…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 04:35 PM
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Well they did ask for the latest romantic thing. This was this morning, I'm sure they do other romantic things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 03:03 PM
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If that's what she wants, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 02:50 PM
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Ignore this guy, you absolutely don't need to have kids if you don't want to. Plus there's always adoption, the Earth is overcrowded as it is. Pregnancy is TERRIFYING.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 02:40 PM
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Why? It is romantic to do someone else's chores for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 01:17 PM
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As long as it'd done with consent it can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 02:26 PM
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Still haven't asked. There's no point continuing this. You're an idiot. Your points are idiotic and you're unwilling to listen to facts and too scared to test your preposterous viewpoints by actually asking the people you've decided these facts about. I can't help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 02:04 PM
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So you haven't asked. Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:35 PM
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Where have you said that you have? Where has it said what they actually replied?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:24 PM
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I repeat. Ask. The. Women. In. Your. Life. Unless you think they'll lie too? Or you have none?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 12:50 PM
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Where are you getting this from? Is this from the list of rules you made up that you get to judge others by with absolutely no foundation for anything you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 02:54 PM
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Did you ask the women in your life? I'm serious, ask them if they've ever been assaulted, groped or catcalled. Ask them. If you're right they'll all say "never". If you want a percentage, ask 10 women. "Completely delusional women" whatever helps you sleep at night. You claim the 80% of women who joined the MeToo movement were lying. You assume I'M lying about multiple events. You've probably heard Trump brag about sexual assault and still think it's no big deal. You're just disregarding evidenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 02:30 PM
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See, this is why your views are so backwards and innacturate. I've been groped on the way to work, fully covered, no skin showing. I've been groped by people I trusted on a tour I couldn't leave, whilst needing medical care. I've been followed home and catcalled whilst walking home from a friends house in the middle of the day, I've been cornered outside a train station in the middle of the day whilst waiting for my date to arrive. I was followed on the way to university by a guy because I accid…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 06:00 PM
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Slapping is not an unusual kink at all... I dont get why you're so surprised by this. Same with choking and whipping. Some people like the power dynamic and pain cam be a huge turn on for some. Calling someone disgusting because they like to be slapped (again relatively vanilla as well) is out of order.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 12:25 PM
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Okay.... You keep living in your little bubble if that makes the real world easier for you. Don't forget, vaccines cause autism and the Earth is flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 11:50 AM
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I've never dyed my hair, I'm in great shape, no tattoos or piercings other than ears. And have a great family. Completely average person. But great assumptions. What would it matter if I did? Because women everywhere are getting harassed and assaulted and you still won't accept it? And if they were they must have been "asking for it" with short skirts and bright hair and tattoos? Please. Trust me," classy" women get groped too.... I'd probably fit your backwards view of classy and I've already t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 11:47 AM
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You think you know about Bdsm and domination but you think slapping is disgusting. OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 11:41 PM
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I suppose you think spanking is disgusting too? Or scratching nails into someones back? Or gentle lip biting? I think you need to take a step back and stop shaming people for totally normal things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 11:38 PM
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You clearly did miss the metoo movement. By a fucking mile. Damn how can you be that ignorant? It was about how almost every single woman out there had at one point or another been sexually assaulted. Groped or raped. Sometimes at work, often not. If you're going to pretend it's about women sleeping their way to the top like they did in 1960 movies where they started out as secretaries then I honestly have no idea why you're on this sub because you're too detached from reality to be able to enga…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:06 PM
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how can you possibly know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 10:40 PM
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I've only witnessed one happening in public to a stranger before and initially it looked like the girls were just yelling at this guy, until it turned out hed been groping one of them and then yelled vile things at them first when she pushed him off. If I hadn't paid attention I'd have thought they were just yelling at thier male friend. Ive also had them happen to me and to my friends a fair bit when I've been with them. For example catcalling where they're yelling abuse and follow us down the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:21 PM
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Um, did you misss the me too movement? I know a lot of women and we talk about the NUMEROUS times this has happened to us. Every single woman I've ever talked to about this has told me about multiple instances happening to her and her friends. And its a lot of women I've spoken to, easily hundreds. Also, just look at the many women stating ther experiences on this very thread. Are you really just going to dismiss all of the because you've decided you don't want to agree? I highly doubt given you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:07 PM
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I've studied this. I know how to see an argument objectively. I would genuinely encourage you to try and learn some basic empathy though. As well as the ability to see information objectively without filtering it all away the second you see it. It'll help you to listen to people without getting so defensive, and let you view a situation objectively. Until you can do that its not worth discussing anything with you because you are just dismissing information given to you and only accepting that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:55 PM
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Aggressive reactions are commen and if they were in a more private place I'm sure some could easily have become assault by the way they reacted (eg grabbing your wrists and trying to drag you away, or gripping your biceps so you can't leave). Its something we're warned about all the time but for me personally it was numerous experiences that made this real for me. Most women agree that saying just "no" provokes an uncomfortable reaction from the man where he demands an explanation and gets more …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 09:15 AM
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Spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 09:08 AM
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Its both. They're being polite, but also have leaned to be nice for their own safety too. Unless youre actively being creepy already, they don't actually want to hurt your feelings, human to human, either. The times when I want to go "NO" and leave it at that (but I don't because of safety) is when the guy feels threatening and creepy to me. Otherwise id say it with an excuse for safety reasons but also because it seems more polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 09:03 AM
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Some of the guys here : "No, no that can't be right. You must be exaggerating." Sorry that happened to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 08:58 AM
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Yup. You always need an excuse and sometimes that doesn't work. If you try the "i dont owe you an explanation" thing after a simple no that really sets them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 08:54 AM
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You do realise that most people arent aren't paying that much attention to others in public places. I've been groped a lot in public places, I've also been hit in public by a man (a stranger, because I stood up for myself when he tried to intimidate me with his size) and no one did anything. They were too intimidated by the man because he was very aggressive and strong. Ive been physically restrained by a guy in public while he tried to grope / kiss me. Again people did nothing. Guys might get r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 08:49 AM
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If a guy has negative feelings after you reject him then you're lucky if he keeps them to himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 08:43 AM
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That's one person's experience on this thread. Lots of others have shared their other experiences that suggest this happens much mkre frequently. You can't just cherry pick who to believe based on which answers you like the sound of.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 08:41 AM
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How incredibly ignorant of you. Almost all women, "Men attack us reguarly so we take precautions when they cold approach us or catcall us due to personal experience with them" Your response, "There must be something wrong with YOU. Your totally valid reaction is wrong. I know because I'm a man and this hasn't happened to ME. You must all be lying, exaggerating or delusional. Otherwise I, a man, would have seen it. There cannot be any other explanation. I'm a man and I'm not scared of men OR wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 08:28 AM
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Not sure if that means you don't believe me but I can assure you I'm telling the 100% reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 08:09 AM
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"Fear mongering". I wrote this elsewhere in the thread but maybe its a small insight. Most of the examples below are from the last 7 days. Most women have either had at least one guy attack them after rejection or know someone personally who has. And what DOES happen often is the in between stuff, people calling you a slut when you turn them down, a fat whore, following you around, grabbing your wrist or getting incredibly aggressive or angry. Sometimes just persistence over anger "why not? Cmon…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 07:00 AM
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Almost none. They all got creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:59 AM
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I wrote this elsewhere in the thread bit maybe its a small insight. Its more than 50%. Its literally like 80 or 90%. Moat id the examples below are from the last 7 days. Most women have either had at leasts one guy attack them after rejection or know someone personally who has. And what DOES happen often is the in between stuff, people calling you a slut when you turn them down, a fat whore, following you around, grabbing your wrist or getting incredibly aggressive or angry. Sometimes just persi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:40 AM
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Its SO rare!!! Sometimes jt even makds me think twice about saying no to him because for someone to be comfortable enough with themselves, respectful enough to women and confident enough to just take the no and go on with their day without taking it out on us first, is such a rarity. I feel like it should be the bottem line but its absolutely the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:39 AM
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No but it happens. Most women have either had at leasts onr guy attack them after rejection or know someone personally who has. And what DOES happen often is the in between stuff, people calling you a slut when you turn them down, a fat whore, following you around, grabbing your wrist or getting incredibly aggressive or angry. Sometimes just persistence over anger "why not? Cmonnnn, we'll have a good time together, I have a big dick. Where are you going? Cmon come and join me and my friends, we'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:33 AM
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Are you sure they're not scanning the exits because I've done that a fair few times before and the guys did not seem to notice / take hints.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:47 AM
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She's dodging the bullet either way, she's said no. The majority of guys who ask you out in this way respond badly when told a flat out no. Its dumb for a woman who has experience with guys reacting badly to a simple no to continue. Its completely logical for her to soften the blow and make an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:39 AM
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Then I guess every woman needs therapy. Guys have the potential to harm us at any hint of a no and most of us have experienced that anger and fragile ego to some degree after saying no. Saying "well i guess you just can't go out if that's the case" is a ridiculous strawman argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:33 AM
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No ones gonna attack you for asking them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:28 AM
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How do you know that? When literally thousands of women are telling you "this happens all the time" how can you STILL not believe them? You can't actually be this dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:25 AM
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Yes please tell us more about our experiences and how wrong we are. Then justify your bs assumptions with some more assumptions about why we do this. We're literally telling you what's happening, a perfect explanation for why we don't always say "no" outright, and you're not only telling us we're wrong, but because we're "wrong" that means our otherwise justifiable reactions are now non justifiable and we are just "spineless". Besides that, do you really think someone saying no to a guy twice as…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:23 AM
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Because half the time when we say no its ignored and often the guy gets aggressive. We're taught to be polite and overly aware of others feelings from birth, its seen as politer, safer and less confronting to give another reason and hope the guy gets the hint then to say outright no and get hit with an angry "why not?!". Which we then have to justify which leads to more hurt and aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:17 AM
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For me it feels a bit like she got this huge backlash for her fake porn on porn hub and instead of hiding away or getting defensive or upset by the sheer entitlement of these guys, she took it a step further by basically saying "idc, they'll even drink my bathwater". Like even though so many were so angry at her, they're still buying into her trolling. And I do suspect its a literal "thirsty guy" link. It feels like she's laughing in the face of these demands put on her and the hate and lust she…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 02:45 PM
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I think its meant to be the old fashioned white Knight coming to rescue m'lady, hoping she'll ride off on his noble steed with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 02:20 PM
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Yeah I got that, but all I can think is how this is sounding suspiciously like her ex assaulted her reguarly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 10:39 PM
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You enjoy that story?! That sounds awful. Your poor girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 04:11 PM
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The last paragraph is especially true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 01:37 PM
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Is there nothing you aspire to be good at or nothing you dislike about yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 01:31 PM
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I found that with my brother. Was all excited to try my jitsu move on him (arm lock because fuck throwing him hes 6'2 or something) and he just held his arm out and I couldn't even twist it. They teach you to kick them in the nuts or hurt them to get them shocked enough that you can move them into position but I felt mean trying that. Its very frustrating learning self defence martial arts and realising its useless. Having said that I've noticed men are built very differently. Even guys who do n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 12:52 PM
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I don't think most women enjoy seeing penises, erect or otherwise. It does nothing to turn us on. Its about the man attached, attitude, sense of humour, how they hold themselves, voice etc as well as looks. Personally I find tall guys with good arms and shoulders a huge turn on. Just look at r/forearm porn. Women LOVE some nice arms with the sleeves part way rolled up MUCH more than some gross penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 12:40 PM
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We don't think that, but there is reading the room you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 11:40 PM
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Its very obvious when a guy is only talking with you to sleep with you vs being a decent human being and saying hi.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 11:33 PM
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Interesting. Do you mind if i aak how tall / muscular you are? I just dont see some of the skinny, shorter guys overpowering me as easily as me vs a ten yo. The big, muscly guys for sure bur not some of these men theee are out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 11:31 PM
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Well I said that I would not ignore a guy because of their looks. At the very least Id aknowledge them before talking to someone I was interested in sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 11:27 PM
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That IS exactly what we are calling harassment. We reject them and they go crazy. We're not calling people asking us out harassment, we're calling the people following us down the street, yelling at us when we ignore them, or when we tell them outright no, harassment. Thats literally what is happening multiple times a day sometimes, and they get persistent and often aggressive and offended. So we're telling people via the Internet that this is happening all the time and they're acting like we're…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 07:18 PM
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It was just a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 07:08 PM
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Because maybe you're not attracted to that person? Or you're in a monogonous relationship with someone else. Do you really not see the why someone would be upset?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:08 PM
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Men who go straight in for sex are constantly called creeps and fuckbois by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:53 PM
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Ah, I think they were referring to being actively ignored in person whilst people talk to the hot friend and block her out. She even said her friend would approach and say "hi" first and they wouldn't even bother responding with a hi back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:43 PM
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Why did your aunt attack you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:30 PM
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Oops sorry. Meant to reply to someone... My bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:29 PM
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Late to the party, but here's my answer. If we switched it so that I could trade off sexual aggression and just deal with physical aggression; I'm not gonna get beaten up just for existing if I was just dealing with mens physical aggression. It'd be because I was provoking them or if I was very unlucky in the wrong part of town. As a woman I get mens sexual aggression directed at me all the time just for being alive. Noticeably on social media, but also on the streets, on my way to work, at work…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:07 PM
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Shoving you with their... breasts?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:47 PM
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Why did your aunt attack you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:44 PM
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Do you really think that fighting a woman is the equivalent of fighting a child? Like an 8 year old? Or do you mean the equivalent of a woman fighting an 8 year old? And do you mean tall, relatively fit men or any man, even shorter, smaller framed guys that don't hit the gym much?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:25 PM
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Why would you go someone's comments like that in response to a very neutral comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:01 PM
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Nah, this girl says in several comments that even if the friend starts a conversation the guy will literally ignore her and bit even say hi back. It is in a somewhat dating scenario because its when she's out with her less attractive friend and the girl is getting hit on, but its just basic decency to at least acknowledge the friend. I also read it in "when i go out for a drink with ny friend and guys will approach me and completely block my friend out"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 12:11 PM
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Oh absolutely! But guys who will not even treat you as worth a hello unless you agree to let them fuck you will not make you feel sexy and desired. It also won't be good sex. Most likely itll be painful and uncomfortable, you wont orgasm, hell kick you out the second he's done (after 30 seconds of thrusting with no foreplay) and basically just use you as an alternative to masturbating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 12:05 PM
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Maybe you zero in on them but you would at least acknowledge the others right if you were joining in the conversation for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 11:01 AM
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Feeling invisible doesnt mean "no one would ever have sex with me". Its being treated as less than human, like you dont really exist or aren't worth interacting with unless its for demeaning sex. Its not even being respected enough to be given a "hello" when a guy interrupts your conversation with your friend. You cant really think that shes talking about sex can you? You can't really be that dense?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 11:00 AM
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Its really not. Nothing is better than feeling used and degraded.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 10:28 AM
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She doesnt want guys hitting on her incessantly. She just wahts to be treated with basic respect as a human being and aknowledged that she exists. Maybe a hi or something? Or god forbid a normal conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 10:27 AM
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So in this hypothetical world of incessant attention, boys would love it, therefore they wouldn't complain, so we should praise boys for not complaining about something that a) doesn't happen to them and b) if it did they'd really enjoy it and therefore have no reason to complain? Are you following this logic? So if unnatracive gay guys were hitting on you ALL the time and not accepting no for an answer, you still wouldn't complain?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 10:22 AM
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Are you doing this deliberately? Women as a whole, don't want relentless attention from anyone once they've indicated they're not interested, attractive or not. Generally women also dont want to be disturbed when walking down the street (especially with headphones in) or minding their own business. But that's not to say women don't want to be treated with respect as people. They want to be acknowledged if someone is joining in a group conversation or is talking right in front of them. They want …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 10:16 AM
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If you're one of those women you say hello and the guys literally dont even look at you or say hi back. Or if they do they'll say "hi" and leave straight away in a very rude and dismissive fashion. Whatever happened to commen decency of just being able to chat a bit without needing to have a promise of sex at the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 09:33 AM
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There's a difference between acknowledging someone exists / being generally polite / a decent human being, and relentlessly hitting on someone. No woman wants to be relentlessly hit on by someone they've said no to. The people they say no to are likely to be people they're not attracted to initially. You can be nice to someone without being actively looking to fuck (look up how women are to others, every day regardless of looks).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 09:28 AM
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It's so cruel. I just dont get it. I would never just ignore someone, regardless of how they looked. I would always speak to all the guys in the group, even if the one I was interested in was there and I have no interest in the others. It's just polite. Unfortunately the guys think that means I'm interested in them just because I'm being polite like is commen decency. Surely it should be the norm that you treat people like people and with respect without needing to assume it means you want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 09:25 AM
3

What's she like?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 09:19 AM
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They're not being high and mighty, they're not interested in being hit on all the time. Of course you should walk away; you approached them, they don't want to chat, so you leave. Not hang around spitefully. That's creepy. Maybe try not taking rejection personally. Most people don't want a stranger to approach them randomly while they're going about their day. Doesn't matter who it is. If your ego is that fragile you shouldn't be approaching. Surely you understand that most people don't always w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:42 PM
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Assuming that's true, you're securing a woman who either is naive and not yet damaged or who has bene through a lot of pain in her life, hence missing the red flags. It doesn't sound like you'd be willing to help her understand her worth and work through that, so why would you want someone like that as your partner? Is it really so you could jist hurt her more? Do you reeally want to be abusive and actively try and hurt and manipulate a woman, another human being, that youve specifically choseen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 06:54 PM
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Guitar is a good hobby but lifting weights isn't really a passion that builds you as a person, it's just for the body and I think in this case your motivation is to get women. You need things that make you happy and fulfilled without the sole aim being tk get laid. Learn how to be single, love yourself, be someone You want to be around and spend time with and you'll find that a) you won't need women or the end goal of sex so much and b) that other people will be drawn to you too, including women…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 11:14 AM
1

This. Exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 11:06 AM
1

Then try and change something about yourself. Why would you want to be with someone who had to settle for you anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 11:05 AM
1

Exactly. This is the difference between a compliment and being a creep. Learn to take the no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 11:04 AM
1

What contradictory logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 11:03 AM
1

What? How exactly do you reccomend rejecting a guy? I'm serious. Say you're walking down the street with headphones on and thjs guy approaches you. How do you reject him? "Hey cutie, what's your name? Where you going? Dyou have a boyfriend?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 11:02 AM
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That's just being spiteful because she's rejected you. If she's out in public she's probably got other things to do than get hit on by guys she's not interested in. This behaviour is the problem. It's why women don't want to be chatted up in public. Not because there's anything wrong with it initially but because guys don't take the hint and go if she says she's not interested. They hang around and force you to talk to them like they're entitled to your attention and take advantage of your upbri…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 10:50 AM
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Oh okay, sorry. Ill think of another example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 10:36 PM
1

Nice logic. "it must not be true because of some assumptions I just made up. (that Op has not been roughed up" enough" by life and that if she was she would be attracted to someone she clearly does not like). Not to mention she said she used to actually like these guys before she grew up and matured.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 05:00 PM
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It's been proven that women have stronger verbal abilities. Its a well known psychological fact. Just like "men tend to be stronger because on average they have x amount more muscle than women". Women have larger verbal processing centres in the brain and excel at verbal tasks, with significantly higher abilities compared to males.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 04:55 PM
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Why would you want to the the sort of person that other people have to be warned agaisnt because you are exhibiting red flags? That manipulates people to llet down their guard when it should be up? Red flags which are used in the context of helping vulnerable people avoid abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 04:54 PM
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If men aren't superior to women then why do women have to fight for equality at all? If black people aren't inferior to white people, why do they have to fight so hard for equality? If Jewish people weren't inferior to nazis why did the holocaust happen? This is hands down the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Do you not have any basic notion of history, psychology, how the human brain works?! What an "argument". It's like the thought process of a 3 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 04:51 PM
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Yes women do this 100% of the time. Even if it's not overtly said we can pick this up. But how could you even realise that? You're too busy thinking men are women that you forget what your behaviour looks like to someone who has different goals than your comfort. Please... Keep telling women what they think. You literally have no idea do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 04:42 PM
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How do you know they have these attitudes if they're publicly displaying others? Did they tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 04:34 PM
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This is spot on. Absolutely correct. I think very few women over the age of 25 and under 45 would put up with TRP mysoginistic's mindset. Not if they havs any sebse of self worth and healthy self esteem. It's outdated and arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 04:25 PM
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I stopped reading after "it's easier to get guys off because they are horner". Thats just not true. Thats not how it works. And your definition of a high sex drive is just not correct either. It means wanting a lot of sex. It doesn't mean "fucking anything that moves". You can want more sex than your partner and still do it with only that person. Or God forbid, masturbate a lot instead. And of course the risk is higher for women. We csn get pregnant. Birth control fucks your body, mind and labid…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 05:17 PM
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I think it's especially cruel because when you're young you hate it. It makes you feel so objectified and dirty and gross, but there is a part that likes attention or that sees it as validation. When I moved cities there was a huge difference in attention from men and it fucked with my self esteem for a while. To the point I almost missed the groping etc (till it happened again). Its a weird line but at the the end of the day it all comes down to the idea and reinforces the idea that as women ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 01:04 PM
1

Or old. Even attractive womem after a certain age get ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:43 PM
1

Thats what it is isn't it? The definition of whiteknighting is men pretending to defend women in order to get laid (but not really believing it)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:29 AM
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Yes I do. Having said that I heard much less stuff that needs defending from women towards men as opposed to the other way round.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:18 AM
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Low status, unattractive women are waaaay worse off than low status, unattractive men. These women literally get treated like they're invisible, not even human. Its still a form of objectifying. Men are still respected if they're unattractive, women are often not respected by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:17 AM
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The people who call others white knights tend tohust be angry at people calling them out on their shjt/ defending women. I've been called a whiteknighting countless times on reddit (often whilst talking about my own experiences to disagree with a guy about feminist issues and thats because they don't realise I'm a straight woman. So if I say anything I'm either a chick and so my opinion doesn't count because I'm a "feminazi" or they think I'm a dude and I must be whiteknighting for sex (ha). So …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 10:26 PM
1

I do agree but I actually think the main reason people say "good for her" for Bella is because she's sort of poking fun at mysoginy and the expectations that are set on women, both to be pure and good and also to put out and act like porn stars and just the thirstiness and sense of entitlement from men in general. Shew literally selling her bath water, its an obvious troll and its just hilarious that people are buying it! She's making fun of how desperate or "thirsty" these guys are and she's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 05:05 PM
1

Where are you getting these numbers from?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:44 PM
1

Any guy that you are attracted to. What is ugly anyway? A big part of attraction is how you hold yourself, attitude etc. I tend to think I value looks quite highly but I've had major crushes on guys that were not massively attractive at first glance. But their attitude, the way they talk or act, what they say, makes me feel things I can't describe. And you just, dont see the bad and onkg see the good. His face isn't symmetrical and he's not tall but he's got good arms. Or he's super skinny and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:42 PM
1

What? Because some people can't find anyone to sleep with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:53 AM
1

This isn't the same as food though, you need food to survive. Having more self control and being selective doesn't mean yoir drive is lower. I agree that if you're really horny your standards drop to fulfil it, but I also think that the risk of sex is so much greater for women, we can get by with masturbating and waiting for a partner we can trust. Then when with a partner you might really see the sex drive. Also, sex is honestly not that great for most of us with a lot of partners because the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:31 AM
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Also gelato is an easy escape if you're not interested! Rather than a three course meal. Although idk where these guys are taking women for meal dates, where I am its always just "drinks?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:58 AM
1

Where are you getting these statistics from? It's just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 03:52 PM
1

You really think all women find 70 percent of men gross and creepy just because of their appearance? Appearance matters to an extent but you can be hot af and a total turn off sexually. Oe you can ve average looking and your attitude makes you so damn hot. Everyone likes different things. Also women are not all bombshells. People tend to go for partners of a similar attractiveness to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 03:17 PM
1

What? Thats complete BS. Good sex is about stimulating her body and mind, anyone can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 02:09 PM
1

Are you actually that ignorant? Why would you possibly think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 02:08 PM
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You're getting confused. Having a high sex drive doesn't mean saying yes to sex from every guy that asks for it. It means wanting a lot of sex. I can really want a lot of sex but not with just anyone. Men are less fussy, that doesn't mean they have higher sex drives. Comparing your sex drive to your partner means one of you wants more sex than the other, that person has a higher sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 12:03 PM
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No it's that women want GOOD sex. And most men cba to giving it because it requires more effort than for them to just get themselves off in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 08:38 AM
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That's the opposite of what you said in your first comment. First you said its only women calling other women sluts, now you're saying its men that view women as slutty and less attractive, and not only that, but that its true, a slut is what they are and that it decreases their value as a person. It only "decreases their value" to guys who have no self worth in the first place and are unable to view women as people, equal to men regardless of sexual history and as more than just sexual objects …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:51 PM
2

Yes. Competition isn't good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 07:34 PM
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Women absolutely are shamed for having sex by men. Just look at all the men who think that women having had sex with other guys has decreased her "value". She's worthless and desperate and a thot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 07:31 PM
4

THIS And all that creepy behaviour that men don't see but women seem to experience all the time, basically everything woth the whole me tok movement, would just be done publicly, in full view of othrr men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 06:45 PM
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It's more the fact that no matter what you look like, if a girl doesn't react positively to your advances you should stop. If you don't, that's whats creepy. Sometimes advances can be creepy too if they dint read the signals that she doesn't want to be hit on. If he's attractive they're probably reacting positively so him continuing is fine. If they don't he needs to back off. We don't mind being approached respectfully but they need to back off if we show we mind. Your friend is not being calle…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 11:33 PM
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An infinite amount of sex with unattractive men you have no interest in? And even if you did... A disslocated shoulder and fearing for your safety eveytime you dare say no is a fair or reasonable tradeoff for men harassing you? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 11:27 PM
0

Its visually appealing and porn is a visual art. Watching and doing are two very different things. Lots ofnwomen watch rape porn, they don't want to be raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:32 PM
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Eveyone has features that are attractive and ones that aren't to someone. If you like their personality, you tend to focus on the physical attributes you like and less on the ones you don't and vice versa. Also a lot of women dont like a big dick. Average is certainly not unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:30 PM
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Average, average looking guy: Has a small circle of slightly nerdy friends. Goes to the gym to lift weights occasionally and maybe does a sport a couple of times a week. Drinks beer occasionally. Watches sport voth alone and with mates. Plays online a lot. If single goes out occasionally to try and hook up and uses tinder most nights. Never gets hit on but women are receptive to light flirting. Has a lot of female friends. If single gets laid maybe once every two weeks. Listens to hip hop. Avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:04 PM
1

What part of that is truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:28 PM
1

Not really. Only the extreme people in feminism do. Feminism is actually doing a great job at addressing that. Just like there used to be the "dont make fun of fat women, but ALSO dont belittle slim women" campaigns a few years ago, feminism is about accepting all women, whether they want to be "feminine" or "masculine" or anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:26 PM
1

Exactly! Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:23 PM
2

How??!
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 11:42 AM
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Nothing here has said any of the degrees are useless or that the debt snt being paid off. It suggests they weren't born into money and have to take out a loan in order to study, which they will work on paying back once they start work. If more women are studying than men, they'll have higher loans.
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 11:41 AM
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Women have more student debt because they buy shoes? Oh please. If more women are studying (as you said in your comment) they're going to have more debt. Do you have stats to show women buy more shoes? If you do, do you have evidence that the women and men that buy $1,000 of shoes every 4 months are the same ones that are studying? I doubt it. If someone is spending a lot on shoes they probably have a decent amount of money. And besides, Student loans dont work like that. You dont go "oooh I rea…
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 11:37 AM
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Why did you feel it nessecary to slam her HEAD into the ground?! You could have killed her. And then to be proud of it? You could EASILY have just restrained or subdued her. This is just some justice boner for being abke to hit women.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/06/19 11:22 AM
1

Are you kidding? You're throwing around a lot of judgements on people's mental status without any evidence in that direction. She's now mentally unstable because she didn't want to have sex with him and was able to stick to her guns after having caved the first two times (having already said no several times)? Uhhh ok.... No wonder all women are "crazy", they're constantly rejecting guys advances. Lock em up am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:11 AM
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Yes and that's what I said said too. Part of sexual relations mean being able to hang out after and before sex / after starting sex / without sex etc. They started sexual relations, she wanted to stop, they should have been able to hang out without issues without needing to continue or leave. If he wasnt completely immature at least. Why wouldn't you feel comfortable being allme with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 09:19 PM
1

I dont agree. Unless you're a total tool or completely socally inept you can ofc have a good chat and time with someone without havig sex with them, even if you did some sexual activity. Hanging out before and after sex are part of what makes sex great. It's maybe a little awkward if one of you confessed your love and the other rejected you, but if you're just talking about sex, just hang out, enjoy and decide later if you actually both want sex or not. Why does there have to be so much pressure…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 07:00 PM
1

Unlike leggings, which this thread seems to have a thing for bringing up, bras are considered underwear. So panties are the closest thing. Men don't seem to have an equivalent to bras because they just go with nothing on their chest and its considered fine, unlike for women. Insisting for your right to wear boxers in public is not the same as women not wearing bras...
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 06:50 PM
1

Yes it's obvious you were being sarcastic. Women have never said they should be allowed to wear underwear in public - _- so yiur commebts isbt relevant. Unless youre getting confused with women saying that they should be able to be naked or in underwent in public without getting assaulted or raped. Thats to make a point about rape. No is saying its ok for men or women to be out in underwear in public normally.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 06:47 PM
0

They're not underwear. Underwear is underwear. You wear pants underneath leggings. Leggings are a piece of clothing to cover the legs. They can be used as thick tights or as sporting gear or just as trousers. Its perfectly acceptable. They're definitely not underwear. You sound quite judgemental if you're laughing at people for wearing leggings.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 06:44 PM
1

Maybe you didnt but this entire post does. Its ridiculou's. Well itd muvu more socially acceptable to go out in a bikini. Underwear is very socially unacceptable for either sex. Womens underwear also tends to be much thinner than bikinis.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 02:11 PM
1

So?
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 02:08 PM
1

Yeah... I get the meme. And its complete BS.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 02:07 PM
1

Yes clearly thats what I'm saying. Ive seen eevey single woman everywhere and verified none are walking around in their underwear and it's fine. Im sure somewhere there's some dickhead guy walking around in just boxers and another gal in just knickers. But the point is that's not socially acceptable for men to women to do.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 02:06 PM
1

No bra day... Is going nude under clothes... Same as going commando. Wearing boxerss instead of shorts is the same as going out in just panties instead of shorts. You're not making any sense.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 11:37 AM
1

Boxers arent ok but briefs are. Panties aren't ok but bikinis are. There's no double standard here.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 11:35 AM
0

Whats the difference between boxers and swimming trunks? You dont think women walking around in underwear is ok but a bikini is. This post says they don't think guys walking around in boxers is ok but trunks are. There is no double standard. This is honestly the stupidest post I've seen in a long time. The lengths some of you boys go to to hate on women is just laughable
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 11:33 AM
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In no way of the definition is that true. Leggings are seen as everyday and sport clothing. You don't wear briefs out on a run. They also cover everything. And there are guy leggings too. Briefs are underwear, yoh wear them under your clothes. With leggings you wear underwear beneath them and you do not need to cover them up.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 11:29 AM
1

Sure you can. What you can't do is willingly suck a guy's dick, twice, and then stop halfway through saying "I just wanted to talk".... and then expect to have a nice evening and just get to know each other. Ummmm of course you can. Of course you can do that. You can withdraw consent, you can say you don't want to do anymore, you can say you only want to hang out and chat. Of course you can do that... Whats your alternative? She sucked his dick so now shes also consented to being raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 11:27 AM
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You really didn't get the irony there? Ofc I dont think menace is free speech. I also dont think pressuring and coercing someone is free speech. Which you have just demonstrated that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 11:22 AM
1

Dude, you dont even fully understand the concept of consent. And you dont even acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 11:21 AM
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And id love for you to explain why it's ok for men to walk around topless bit not for women to be out in a bra? Context. You wear boxer shorts in bed not as outdoor clothing. Women also can't wear bras out when its hot and men go shirtless, but they can wear bikinis despite bras maybe covering more. Anyway, the post was about men not wearing only underwear in public. Women can't do this either.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/19 11:16 AM
0

No. Just like going braless doesn't make your top a bra.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/06/19 09:21 AM
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Yeah underwear vs actuall clothing?!
/r/PussyPassDenied20/06/19 09:20 AM
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It's really not. Going commando (under normal clothes) would be.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/06/19 09:20 AM
-33

Not really. Its underwear vs clothes.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/06/19 09:19 AM
4

Have you seen speedos?
/r/PussyPassDenied20/06/19 09:17 AM
-11

Women don't wear underwear outside either though...
/r/PussyPassDenied20/06/19 09:17 AM
2

Its a crime now? I thought it was "just how people have sex"? - _-
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:31 PM
2

Rape bad. Defending rapists bad. Educating people on what rape and consent is, good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:30 PM
2

"Go onnnn. Just do it. Just do it. Do it or else. Do it! Do it or Ill hurt you!" . ItS JUst fReEDoM oF SpEeCH aMIrIGht?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:16 PM
1

Um why? Because you'd hsve to acknowledge that your POV is basically saying rape is ok? Or god forbid, that your prior sexual acts might have been assault? Denial is easier than facing up to the truth but for thr sske of your future relationships I hope you seek help and at least try and understand a POV other than your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:13 PM
1

So you think that it's ok to just ignore a woman saying no or showing she's not interested? That's literal rape. Are you a real person? With a mother, a sister, neighbours etc? Why don't you aks them what they think? Im quite concerned for any woman you try and sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:08 PM
3

Talk about defeatist... Men can't stop pushing for sex? WTF. I thought you were against the whole "men just cant control themselves around women... So all men are rapists" narrative? Of course they can. Even if at a cellular level (what is that even supposed to mean?) Men need sex, they can get it without pressuring women into it. Believe it or not, women have high sex drives too and many actually WANT sex. Why not wait till both partners are keen? I dont even know why youd want to have sex with…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:53 AM
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Um yes you did. Why not just assume that when a woman or man says no they fucking mean no? Pooor men, it must he so hard having to read between your made up lines. If only there was a way around that. Like asking clearly, like setting up safewords etc. Because what youre describing is consensual non consent and thats not something to take lightly. That's something you organises beforehand wjth a highly trusted partner and limits. Otherwise treat a no as gasp no. How tf is a woman meant to tell y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:45 AM
3

Wait are you serious? You really think that you can't have a nice evening, get to know each other, hang out, if the other person wants sex and you dont? Fuck, women may as well never date. Or have guy friends. Because I'm fairly sure the majority of men would jump to have sex on the first date. No way should women wait for a second right? Not like the dates themselves can be fun. And definitely should just never spend time around each other during period week. What's the point right? Not like yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:35 AM
3

Wow wtf. I never even remotely said you raped anyone. Jesus defensive much? Men have a responsibility to get clear consent. End of. As do women. Everyone would love it if eveyone could be clear as day but they can't. If someone 2x as big as you is agresssivly (maybe theyd say it was passionately) going for it, you might freeze up. You might say "id rather not" "maybe another time" "let's go slow" rather than outright "NO". You mivht push them away but not kick and scream and fight. Because human…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:23 AM
1

Yes really. If your argument stands true then so does mine. "Women dont get trained sexually by men".... Your argument is that "if the few women who do this, were to stop expecting men to push them into sex, then men would stop pushing women into sex". Mine is "if men stop pushing for sex, women will stop expecting it". You cant have it both ways buddy. Also have actually studied psychology. Like I said, the bondage practices like safewords are with couples that have had this discussion and are …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:59 AM
0

Close communication is key and men should always back off if the consent isnt clear or enthusiastic. If they back off then any woman that would, learns to be clearer. No means yes works if you have a safeword and have discussed that with a partner. Otherwise its assault or at the best, pushing boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 05:52 AM
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It's been a while since i read the story but from my recollection she thought they were going to have a noce evening together and she quite liked him. So she didnt see it as "we either have sex or I leave right now in a rude way". She thought it would be enough to say she didn't want to have sex andnthey could then continue just having a nice evening. And it wasn't like he immediately went back, he then did just that, continued having a nice tine then went back several more times after she'd bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 05:48 AM
2

If everywhere smell like shit... Maybe try looking unfer your own shoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 05:40 AM
2

Well pressuring in general "go ooooon". You shouldnt need to do this in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:23 AM
1

Jeuss christ you need help
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:22 AM
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Pretty sure many women do. But why tf is this guy pressuring when shes made it clear shes not interested in advancing?! Stop blaming women for men's shitty actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:19 AM
2

Also for women. You don't want to feel pressured into doing things you're uncomfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:09 AM
1

She said this several times and he kept pushing.... Sometimes he backed off a little and a few minutes later was pushing again. She spoke up quite clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:08 AM
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Yes or pressuring them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:07 AM
1

Just keep checking in. "Is this (still) ok?" reguarly. A lot of women get nervous and feel pressured and for me at least I'm always worried they're gonna not care about consent because i implied it early on, and it makes me relax so much more and enjoy the moment if they're checking in on me and telling me they're willing to stop, no pressure, without getting mad, if I want or need them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 01:59 AM
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Thats all people... Basic psychology. And you'll alwways have those that use their own moral compass over society, but as a whole humans adopt the moral rules of their time.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/06/19 04:54 PM
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Wtf. Do you really think that? Holy shit dude you are so out of touch. Almost every woman I've spoken to prefers medium dicks to huge dicks. Huge dicks are uncomfortable. Slightly above average is nice but anything much more is painful and awkward. How many women do you know who have cheated BECAUSE of his dick size? If they even did cheat because of sex, it'd be because he's not good in bed, nothing do with the size of his penis. As long as you're not an extreme large or extreme small, size rea…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/05/19 11:08 AM
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Yes can you imagine if this was the other way round and a guy made a joke (eg. ladies this is what a DD bra looks like) and was then made fun of for dick size or being short? This sub would go ape shit.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/05/19 10:07 AM
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Exactly. She made a joke based on honestly, slightly shitty behaviour guys do, and she called them out. In return she's blasted over something she a) can't control, and b) is an easy attack - her looks. Thats just basic mysoginy. Can you imagine the blow back from this sub if there was a man who made a harmless joke abd was then made fun of about his height or small dick size?
/r/PussyPassDenied09/05/19 10:04 AM
3

Wtf how is this pussy pass denied?
/r/PussyPassDenied09/05/19 09:51 AM
1

No. Women need rigerous excersize, running etc too. I go cllmibing, run, do martial arts etc, I need to expell energy as a woman. Different people just need different things.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/19 02:47 AM
-1

This says so much about the state of this sub. Talk about toxic masculinity.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/01/19 01:20 PM
29

You mean women who get abortions?
/r/PussyPassDenied11/01/19 09:30 AM
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In fairness, that would never make the news. This does.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/01/19 10:23 AM
8

PPD has just turned into an excuse to see women getting beaten up in the name of "justice"
/r/PussyPassDenied04/01/19 08:47 PM
7

This. Women are almost never in a proper fight with a guy, and in martial arts we are taught to fight dirty if it comes to that. Mind you guys are taught that too. But it's normally in self defense against a guy. If a guy actually tried to hurt you I reckon they'd do some serious damage. You're basically taught to resist by trying to hurt the guy in cases of assault and just hope the guy won't try and hurt you physically, just subdue you, presumably to rape or assault you :/ We often fight other…
/r/PussyPassDenied04/01/19 08:42 PM
1

Experience mainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 09:32 PM
5

Taking like half a step back probably.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/12/18 09:47 AM
17

Yes, all he needed to do was step back.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/12/18 09:44 AM
4

THE GODS ARE SHINING ON ME
/r/seduction09/12/18 11:12 PM
2

What girl?
/r/seduction09/12/18 09:16 PM
18

That gay guy was adorable, he looked so crushed. I REALLY hope he was already out of the closet before this went viral.
/r/seduction09/12/18 09:15 PM
1

Idk, I'd have been creeped out.
/r/seduction09/12/18 09:14 PM
5

It's weird how both sides worry about the other finding out where they live in case they're crazy.
/r/seduction09/12/18 05:36 PM
1

Wait, you actually want an echo chamber of the same opinions?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/12/18 01:07 AM
1

Well actually in fairness she was reasonable until he called her life a circus and kid a monkey.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/12/18 01:04 AM
1

Ummm. She was just asking for help. I'm guessing the car thing was bought up because it stopped her reaching the food bank. You could have just said no rather than actshitty about it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 11:02 PM
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And acting like a cry baby... Its the same thing I was talking about. In both cases the inner chimp is coming out and rational thought is going out the window. Here's another example https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ewNVjWPRKZE
/r/PussyPassDenied27/11/18 03:17 PM
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https://youtu.be/FydMvyM857M How is the concept of someone acting like a kid when super stressed blowing your mind that that's how humans behave? Wtf.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/11/18 12:16 PM
1

Like this?? https://youtu.be/FydMvyM857M
/r/PussyPassDenied27/11/18 12:13 PM
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You think there are no brave women? Are you serious?
/r/PussyPassDenied23/11/18 03:26 PM
15

This is not a woman thing. This was just her. Assuming we're all like that is just ridiculous. Like the other user said, I've never seen anyone act like this irl. Also if you want the psychology behind it, her inner "chimp" is coming out. Basically the reptilian part of her brain is taking over and rational thought it out of the window. You can watch videos of this happening in office environments where workers get so frustrated they revert back to instincts. For example a man takes his clothes …
/r/PussyPassDenied23/11/18 03:24 PM
0

Its a sub glorifying violence agaijst women. Can we really be THAT surprised the people here are racist?
/r/PussyPassDenied17/11/18 11:43 PM
1

If you don't have her number yet hand her the phone and ask her to put it in. Or ask if she has Facebook.
/r/seduction06/11/18 10:49 PM
2

It doesn't matter if you've slept with 500 men or one, who you sleep with has always been your choice. You still value sex, but maybe you see it as less of a big deal. You still are the one choosing to have it. If someone raped you that choice is taken away. Of course its equally traumatising to both women. It's your body and you can do what you like with it and that shouldn't give someone the right to override your right to your own body. Liking sex doesn't mean you want just anyone to have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 05:01 PM
4

What does it reek off if its a dude? I think she's just trying to give advice. That's what this sub is for.
/r/seduction17/10/18 08:00 AM
1

Yeah no I think its a fine thing to do. But not if you're still single and already IN your mid twenties. Then you're really pushing the envelope and maybe pushing yourself into something you're not ready for. There just isn't time unless you settlell for the next guy you see and decide to commit to marriage and kids within the next 18 months.
/r/RedPillWomen13/10/18 10:03 AM
2

That's totally fine!! Because you're not really trying to lower her self esteem or make her feel bad, you're teasing her. Hell, that's flirting. But that's not my understanding of negging. My understanding of negging is telling her with a straight face that we'd better eat out because she'd probably poisen you. Teasing her and obviously enjoying her food and saying that would be fine but I don't think it's the same as negging. Intersting maths!
/r/seduction13/10/18 10:00 AM
1

Isn't the point of them "working" to make her feel bad though? So you can sleep with them... Yeah, makes me want to slap him
/r/seduction13/10/18 09:55 AM
1

What's wrong with her???
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/10/18 09:54 AM
1

I mean, some legacies yeah. Like I said, a ton of happily married people met on tinder.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/10/18 09:53 AM
1

I don't hit on women at all. You're not putting her on a pedestool, that's just as bad. Believe it or not, theres a whole world of interactions between putting her on a pedestool and deliberately insulting her to lower her self esteem. My favourite one is basic respect. Treat her as a human being with flaws and with good qualities, who doesn't need to be manipulated into bed but can decide for herself if she wants to have sex with you, and doesn't need to be "brought down" to do so. I get my exp…
/r/seduction13/10/18 09:33 AM
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Says a lot about this sub that this comment got downvoted. Thanks. Why should we care about how our actions make others feel as long as we get laid? /s
/r/seduction13/10/18 09:26 AM
2

Yeah clearly. That's the fucking problem.
/r/seduction13/10/18 09:25 AM
2

Ha. That one wasn't bad.
/r/seduction13/10/18 09:23 AM
1

Yeah, OP you're 24 and want to have kids and a marriage in your mid twenties? Sounds very unrealistic and likw that attitude will make you just settle with the first "acceptable" guy and ignore any bad qualities. How have you been talking a out kids and marriage already? Tbh he's 34 and single and willing to grt that serious that fast... This doesn't sound healthy to me.
/r/RedPillWomen12/10/18 03:02 PM
2

As an adult it can be really hard to meet new people. I know people that have got married of tinder. A ton of people I know met on tinder.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/10/18 07:43 PM
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I mean genuinely a lot of women I know use them to meet people, just ideally people they want to fuck or start a relationship with. But often guys assume you're either dtf on the first date or you want to get married and have his kids... So they're. Filtering out those expectations. Sometimes people want a connection with the people they sleep with and for the relationship to be about more than just be about sex without being a committed relationship.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/10/18 07:40 PM
1

Idk I think sometimes its like so sleeping with the guy is their choice. So th guy knows he might not get sex and that's accepted as a valid choice. Then if she decides she's into him she can go ahead (providing he is too orc, but realistically he probably is).
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/10/18 07:37 PM
2

Posted this elsewhere but I figure you should see this too. Negging isn't cool and it's hard to call out because if the woman gets upset or calls you out on it you say "she thinks too highly of herself" or get aggressive, "Like I'd even want to fck you btch" or "I was just kidding - don't be so sensitive." or in this case "don't take yourself so seriously". I mean honestly, what an arrogant, manipulative attitude. But then these are the sort of guys that do negging. They insult you, then turn it…
/r/seduction10/10/18 05:17 PM
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Exactly and it works by if you get upset or call them out on it you "think too highly of yourself". "Like I'd even want to fck you btch" or "I was just kidding - don't be so sensitive." or in this case "don't take yourself so seriously". I mean honestly, what an arrogant, manipulative attitude. But then there are the sort of guys that do negging. They insult you, then turn it around on the woman and try and insinuate she is too sensitive or is stuck up rather than think "maybe I shouldn't be a c…
/r/seduction10/10/18 05:15 PM
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If you want to tease in a flirty / banter way it's all about delivering it in a teasing friendly way. Tbh all my examples are pretty specific and based more around knowing a woman first, so if she's got a terrible sense of direction for example you can tease her about that eg "I guess I'll guide you home because you'd probably get lost" but make sure it's obviously a joke. For someone you don't really know I just wouldn't insult them at all. You'd get better results by teasing in a slightly arro…
/r/seduction10/10/18 05:04 PM
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Uh I did... And its pretty belittling and the whole point of negging is to insult someone. That is literally what negging is.
/r/seduction10/10/18 04:56 PM
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What are you talking about? Yeah if someone's insulting me to trying to belittle me and knock me down just to get in my pants I want to slap them. There's a difference between banter and friendly teasing and this. This is disgusting. I call this out and "I'm taking myself too seriously"? I probably think too highly of myself too huh? Get tf out of here with that bs. This behaviour is gross, don't turn this round on me.
/r/seduction10/10/18 04:29 PM
26

As a woman these only make me what to slap you.
/r/seduction10/10/18 03:48 PM
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God you sound like a self absorbed, shallow Dickhead.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 08:39 PM
1

Extensive post, but it can easily be summed up with "don't make false accusations." That's just a simple rule in life. And it could easily be applied to other situations: if you're a guy and you walk a girl home, don't go off telling your mates you slept with her if you didn't. If you're a girl and you walk home with a guy, don't tell people you slept with him when you didn't. Teach them to adapt to their environment, not adapt the environment to them. What? That's bullshit. It's much easier to …
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