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What it comes down to, an "opt out" method is effectively punishing the woman for being a woman. The man cums, his job is done. Then the woman is pregnant. Because it is the woman who is pregnant, she is the one who must make the choice between aborting or keeping the child or putting the child up for adoption, because the baby is literally INSIDE OF HER. Abortion is not always a healthy option and some women are completely against it on principle. You cannot force anyone to have an abortion, an…
/r/MensRights03/07/13 04:44 PM
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I think that education definitely has something to do with having an awareness of the different forms of socialization that we're surrounded by on a daily basis. Subtle misogyny is anything from calling a girl a bitch because she's strong and independent, to calling a girl a slut because she has sex with people, to any statements that groups girls as one similarly acting organism as opposed to individuals. Men together in groups can be extremely misogynistic towards women because it's a humor th…
/r/MensRights03/07/13 04:33 PM
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Our society completely objectifies women, and to deny this is to deny reality. Women are photoshopped to look thinner and more glamorous, because the way they actually look is not sexy enough for the standards of beauty we've created. Have you looked at the Avengers' poster? All the male characters face forward, while the female character has her ass to the front. Women's bodies and body parts are constantly used to sell products. In TV shows and movies, the obvious oggling of women by male char…
/r/MensRights02/07/13 06:23 PM
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I think that that you've made up your mind already, and selectively filter what you're reading to see things that support your opinion and disregard things that don't, as opposed to being open to change. It seems like you're going to continue to rely on straw man arguments throughout this discussion, instead of actually discussing with me on the meat of the issues. I find that thoroughly exasperating and hopeless. I have no interest in oppressing men. I have no interest in oppressing women. Why …
/r/MensRights02/07/13 05:58 PM
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Okay, this is a ridiculous argument. The Steubenville rape case involved several boys and at least a dozen witnesses who filmed it and thought it was hilarious and did absolutely nothing. Those boys bragged about raping that girl, made jokes about it, and all in all, had a great time using that girl's body as an object to humiliate for their pleasure. Those boys all had a huge sense of entitlement to that girl's body, and then called her a slut for what THEY had done to her. It is a disgusting t…
/r/MensRights02/07/13 05:42 PM
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Okay, let's take this a step at a time. Women are overwhelmingly more oppressed than men. Men suffer from oppression as a result of the patriarchy as well. I've experienced the issues of being a man firsthand, as I am a man, but I have seen in my life that women have it wayyyy worse than I do. Now, what bothers me about your post is that you are saying "feminists" did this, "feminists" did that. Who are these feminists you are speaking about, specifically? Please don't speak about feminists as i…
/r/MensRights02/07/13 05:27 PM
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Do you not see the inherent intellectual problem with this? Why even bother responding if you're just going to flaunt your willful ignorance as if that's something to be proud of? When you actually read my post and come back with something of value to say, I look forward to hearing your response and discussing issues that are of personal importance to both of us. Even if we disagree, we can both learn things from each other.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 05:02 PM
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It just sounds like this woman was crazy and it was an isolated incident. I don't think it has anything to do with patriarchy as much as this woman was a disturbed individual.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 04:49 PM
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What does this have to do with Men's Rights?
/r/MensRights02/07/13 03:51 PM
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I wasn't aware that feminism was a single group with a handful of leaders. I didn't know that women could be spoken for as a group, rather than as individuals. I was under the impression that feminism is more a philosophy and a dialogue in which people are trying to solve the issues that women face on a daily basis just because of their gender. And actually...yeah, the latter is what it is. But I can see why calling it one organization with misandrist leaders makes it easier to dismiss, rather t…
/r/MensRights02/07/13 03:29 PM
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I'm a male and I also happen to believe strongly that feminism is a good thing for the world. I consider myself a feminist. Do you think that I am a man hating feminist? I'm not trying to marginalize male victims of abuse. However, I do completely understand why feminism focuses on women. I think that it is great that MRAs are trying to do good work to help male victims of abuse, but I think it is crazy to claim that feminists should also be doing this and that if they don't, it shows that they …
/r/MensRights02/07/13 03:18 PM
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If a black person steals from you, does that make all black people criminals? If a women lies, does that make all women liars? Generalizations will block the possibility of having dialogues that will actually be useful when it comes to gender matters. If you're not willing to accept that even your enemies may make good points and might be able to teach you something, you undermine your own intellect.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 04:35 PM
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SOME feminists come up with things like "Schrodinger's Rapist." SOME feminists come up with the tender years. Etc. Blanketing an entire group with a generalization is a terrible way to promote discussion or progression. How would you feel if someone said, "All MRA's are just guys who are bitter about women and insecure about their masculinity so they resort to misogyny under the guise of a progressive social movement"? You would be pissed. Don't just pick and choose individuals as being totally …
/r/MensRights01/07/13 04:25 PM
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The only reason that there is now a campaign to teach men to not rape is because of feminism. This didn't really exist several years ago. The dialogue was instead, "Women, if you don't want to get raped, do this, that, this, that." Feminists have said, "Why is the responsibility on women to not get raped when it is the men who are doing the raping? Shouldn't we teach the men not to rape in the first place? Secondly, man on woman rape and man on man rape are incredibly more common than woman on m…
/r/MensRights15/06/13 04:30 PM
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Because women need men to enable them, because they lack self-agency and require men to have any power? Riiiight...That's not sexist or anything.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 04:17 PM
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Feminism does NOT deny that. YOUR view of feminism does. I'm not necessarily saying that men have more rights than women. I'm saying that society favors giving the power to men just by virtue of how it is built. Also, you guys downvoting my comments are immature bastards. My having a different opinion than you obviously means my comments should be pushed away from this board, right? Wonderful way to have a dialogue instead of a circle jerk. In other words, respond to my comments if you have some…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 03:13 AM
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Here is my question to you: what actions has the MRM engaged in that specifically benefited men (or women, in fact!)? What DO you guys do exactly anyway besides complain about feminists and being victims? The feminist movement is not here to support you. They are here to help women, and alter the patriarchy (and altering the patriarchy WILL help men too, freeing them from the pressures of the patriarchy). While I feel that this isn't the best course of action, the fact that the MRM seems to exis…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 03:09 AM
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Also, you claiming that you were mocked by these words tells me that you are offended by this. It's in your language. Language is incredibly important to our psychology, in both expression and formation. English (and romance languages especially) are inherently sexist just in the words we use and the implied emotional impetus and positive/negative connotations behind them.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:56 AM
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I'm failing to see how he was pressured into doing anything. He willingly did everything she asked him to do, even when it involved him going out of his way to do these things.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:53 AM
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How is anyone invalidating men's experiences? And can you also agree that in that case, men still had all the power, even if not all men had that power? Dude, you are trying to make yourself out to be this huge victim of evil women. Are you just bitter about women or do you actually care about social equity at all?
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:51 AM
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Okay, look, you aren't actually responding to the things I'm saying. You're just trying to prove that men have it worse than women and whining. When the vast majority of people in positions of power are men, it is obvious that there is a power imbalance. I feel like you're trying to deny that that men have any benefits from patriarchy. This isn't a contest about who has it worse because of patriarchy so please stop trying to turn it into that. What I'm arguing is that there should be no inherent…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:49 AM
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Men have had the power for thousands of years. This is historical fact. Men's power exists in our language semantics, our architecture, our literature, etc. However, no one is saying that men are not oppressed by patriarchy! Ideas of masculinity, sexuality, etc. are huge problems for men in modern society, but those problems are not caused by feminists--they are caused by PATRIARCHY, which most men do not actively make decisions for, but which most men do perpetuate by failing to try to change i…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:38 AM
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I'm somewhat confused by what your point is in this post. Look, you are kind of saying that these men being in power actually helps women because the women get to share in the man's success. In this way, you are actually being somewhat sexist because you are claiming that women should be happy about men's power because they get some of the wealth in the process, given to them by a man. In this case, women are forced into the position of "gift receiver from men" and men are in the place of "succe…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:28 AM
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I'm not dismissing that men are hurt by the patriarchy. I'm saying that turning it into a contest of who is hurt more is a bad way of affecting change, and strikes me more of a way to just complain about feminism without actually trying to change the system in a way that would be beneficial to both men and women equally and get rid of the aspects that have negative affects on both sides. Feminists are also concerned about the issues that you bring up. They want to alter the patriarchy, not turn …
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:17 AM
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I'm confused as to how you deny that patriarchy exists. Take a look at positions of power, and across the board you will see men (especially white men) in the overwhelming majority of positions. Also, please explain how patriarchy affects men worse than women. This should not be a discussion about "Well we have it worse than you, so there!" That won't accomplish anything. However, I am curious about what evidence you think supports this. A dialogue about men's issues and women's issues are both …
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:07 AM
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How was he raped? She told him to touch her chest. He touched her chest. She asked him to go to the bathroom. He went to the bathroom. She came in, undid his belt, and got his dick out, put it in her mouth, and started blowing him. Afterward he left. How was this rape? He consented to everything she asked him to do, including the parts the involved actual action on his part to perpetuate the hook up.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 01:31 AM
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Feminists believe that men are also oppressed. MRAs believe that feminists believe men are privileged while only women are oppressed. Yes, men see most of the benefits, but the patriarchy also has an insidious, negative side for men as well. You need to be able to enter into a dialogue with feminists. I am tired of MRAs shutting themselves off from feminists. You want to show that you are more mature and rational? Prove it. Engage in dialogue with women. You might be surprised what you find when…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 01:07 AM
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I think that many MRAs here misunderstand what patriarchy is. Not every man is part of the patriarchy, actively making decisions for it. Patriarchy is not so much a company of individuals as it is a pervasive structure of culture and a way of thinking about gender roles and sex. Patriarchy is also not a system that solely benefits men. Most of the issues that MRAs have with the current gender system in society are problems in the patriarchy itself, and so much of what MRAs want actually aligns w…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 12:57 AM
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