lets--be--realistic Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
–	Donald Trump's use of racism and sexism in US election 'gave him the edge with non-college-educated whites': "Sexim" merely means disagreeing with feminists: Questions include: "Feminists are making reasonable demands" You took away my credibility because I read them -- but you read them too, sooooooo, what's that mean for you? Could it be that it doesn't make someone a bad person for reading feminist texts? Also you haven't given any proof. You chose a radical Internet forum. That's not mainstream feminism, and it's far from 90% of feminists. Your argument is weak. And I think you know that, which is why you keep falling back on the fact that you don't have to prove it. Convenient. Repeatedly saying I hate do…	/r/MensRights	09/01/17 02:36 AM
–	Donald Trump's use of racism and sexism in US election 'gave him the edge with non-college-educated whites': "Sexim" merely means disagreeing with feminists: Questions include: "Feminists are making reasonable demands" So you're telling me you know what all of these feminist texts contain without having read them? Looks like you just blew your own credibility. Scrum Manifesto is actually satire, so maybe do your research before lighting your pitchfork. And Agent Orange? Screencaps of a random Internet forum? That's your big proof that mainstream feminists wish death to men? The website promising to host those images doesn't even exist anymore. Dry your tears. I don't hate men. Feminists don't hate men. Youre t…	/r/MensRights	08/01/17 11:51 PM
–	Donald Trump's use of racism and sexism in US election 'gave him the edge with non-college-educated whites': "Sexim" merely means disagreeing with feminists: Questions include: "Feminists are making reasonable demands" I have read MANY feminist texts and haven't come across a single sentence even suggesting that men should be eliminated. Even your own argument is pretty shit. You say 90% of feminists believe this, but then you limit it to authors before 1980. Which still isn't true, but you aren't even being consistent. Prove it, or shut it. Seriously. Youre going to wage war with women based on this premise, so you'd better back it up. Show me several, even one, popular feminist text promoting the mass extinc…	/r/MensRights	08/01/17 11:26 PM
–	Donald Trump's use of racism and sexism in US election 'gave him the edge with non-college-educated whites': "Sexim" merely means disagreeing with feminists: Questions include: "Feminists are making reasonable demands" Ok so tell me what they say. Show me any evidence that the "feminist left" wants to kill 90% of men. You writing it down is not evidence.	/r/MensRights	08/01/17 06:14 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” I have not once said one bad thing about men throughout our conversation. Women are also not the force behind "frosh week." If you're going to continue hallucinating, do so elsewhere. Have a good one. I hope you one day realize how misplaced your anger is.	/r/MensRights	07/01/17 04:47 AM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” lol. It's Wikipedia. Your "leftist SJW" source is Wikipedia.	/r/MensRights	06/01/17 08:32 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” You're doing all the attacking and the hating here, bud. Feel like a victim if you want to; no one is going to stop you. But nothing in the class materials supports your theory that this is an evil class. It's just your personal bias. It's set up to allow men to talk about whatever plagues them about the idea or pressures of masculinity. No one who doesn't want the opportunity has to take it.	/r/MensRights	06/01/17 08:30 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” Really? Because I'm here, talking about how men's issues matter. While you call me a feminist, lash out in anger, and talk about feminist hatred. The class is about men, so that's why it's not about women's issues. You can relax now.	/r/MensRights	05/01/17 12:18 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” I have, and I graduated about 5 years ago. Have you? You say you're 40 -- have you been back for classes receny or are you relying on hearsay to paint this picture?	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 11:32 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” If you'd be as willing to listen as you are to talk, I'm sure it would be interesting.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 10:21 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” I've also taken women's studies classes in college. They included this angle. It was a longer course, so we also had other angles, such as literary portrayals and a discussion of masculinity. But it was still very much this.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 10:02 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” They aren't thusly named, but they're out there. That's what women's studies classes cover, conflicting and negative definitions of femininity.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 09:50 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” Ha, one lady went to a handful of classes once and unveiled the whole evil plan, eh? Well shoot. There goes that. I think you just need to learn a little bit more of what people mean when they say "toxic masculinity." They aren't calling masculinity toxic. They're referring only the parts of what is commonly identified as "masculine" that are harmful to men. Take it or leave it. That's what this is referring to. If you think men are getting a fair shake in society, what are you doing in this sub…	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 07:59 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” If you want to assume the worst without reason, there is nothing I could ever to to convince you. Good luck out there.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 07:56 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” If they allowed women, ya'll would bitch that the womens are taking over. There's just no winning. Be mad, be happy, don't give a shit. You can choose to feel persecuted or you can use it as an opportunity. I'm moving on.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 07:23 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” What do you think women's studies classes do? If there's a forum to discuss women's issues, there should be one for men.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 07:21 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” Ah, I was looking on the pages for the project itself. If you think men are appropriately represented in violence and crime, that's fine. I stick by my above point.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 07:19 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” Moving the goal posts, classic. My point is that it's not just a class for a grade that passes down an idea. If you can't see that, just never mind.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 07:16 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” Odd; I didn't see anything talking about men and crime on their website. Regardless, if the class does as it promises (discuss messages around masculinity and how these messages have impacted men and our communities), I think it's a good thing. If it's as biased as you're thinking, terrible. But if it does what it's designed to do (there really isn't much detail on their website, so I'm going off of what is there), it'll be helpful in getting men's issues a platform.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 06:52 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” What is and isn't "toxic" is subjective though. And that's my primary problem with it. For example, being "competitive" could easily be defined as toxic, when I see it as nothing even close to being toxic. What you're doing right here is exactly what the course is aiming for. I would expect many discussions like this, and I think that's a good thing.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 06:41 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” It's a non-credit course that meets once a week for six weeks. It's not counted toward your GPA; you don't have to regurgitate anything.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 06:39 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” If that's what you believe, go to the class and discuss that. That's what it's for.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 06:06 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” I think you're just trying to be offended now. Instead of reading a salty article, look up what the Men's Project actually is: "Men's Project creates a space for critical self-reflection and dialogue on what it means to be a man and how masculinity impacts our lives." The course isn't based around those mentions that are bothering you so much. The point of the class is to discuss the issues you're bringing up, however. It's a forum for men to discuss maleness. If you're willing to discuss them h…	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 06:04 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” The focus though is on toxic masculinity, which is different than masculinity in general. It's discussing the harmful stereotypes men face to mitigate them, not strengthen them. I think if you've ever faced a ridiculous social norm or pressure due to being a man, you should know that this class will have something to talk about. Whether you think you'd want to be in the class is a different issue altogether.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 05:42 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” Called the “Men’s Project,” the non-credit program aims to counter what some progressives refer to as “toxic masculinity” by talking to men about their troubled gender. “The experience focuses on the examination of societal images, expectations, and messages around masculinity to empower men to better understand themselves, promote the advancement of gender equity, and raise consciousness in their communities,” it continues. Sounds nothing like a lecture to me, and it sounds like it's fully driv…	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 05:32 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” Isn't this what this sub is all about? People paying attention to the negative expectations and stereotypes people impose on men? I don't see how it's bigotry if it's literally an attempt to tear down negative stereotypes.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 05:24 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” I'm saying it does relate to rights of men if it's opening a dialogue about men's social issues. Probably doesn't need to a gen ed course or anything, but I can see it being relevant to those interested in gender studies and politics. This sub has a lot to say about negative stereotypes of men and unfair social expectations — this seems like a step in the direction of tackling those issues.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 05:21 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” Are women leading the class? Did I miss that? Sounds like it's based on conversations with men.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 05:15 PM
–	The university that teaches a “Problem of Whiteness” class doubles down on bigotry with new class to counter “Toxic Masculinity” Isn't it kind of the male equivalent of women's studies? One looks at the harmful portrayals and pressures women face; the other looks at the harmful portrayals and pressures men face.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 05:14 PM
–	Customer Service, Reverse Sexual Harassment and Walgreens If you can't give a single example, why should we not believe that you're the one kicking up drama in your hamster wheel because you can't handle encounters with the opposite sex? Just a single example of her inappropriate behavior.	/r/MensRights	04/01/17 02:10 AM