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I think I must be missing something. I don't recall older men ever telling me to do anything. I have heard comments that could be misinterpreted as rude or offensive if one wanted to take them that way but I knew that was not the intended goal. An elderly man talking about how his wife used to bake such delicious breads or how good her canning recipes were, or anything she was skilled at in their home is not trying to force his opinion of what women should be. He is just reminiscing about a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 03:41 AM
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When was your mother in the stage of her life that this applied? I did not know my grandparents before I was born obviously but I never had that impression from my grandparents or my great aunt. My great aunt ran the show in her marriage and I've heard my father say some things that he kept from me as a child. Evidently she treated her husband very badly but still controlled the finances and everything else. My grandpa would never have tolerated anyone, man or woman, disrespecting my grandma and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 03:33 AM
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Weren't there numerous threads on this sub a few weeks ago concerning women who 'make guys wait' for sex? Then this thread is created and there are multiple comments stating that leading women on is a sexual strategy some of them use. I'm not going to take the time to look but I am wondering how many of the men stating they either are not clear or intentionally give the impression they are interested in a relationship also complained in past threads that women waited too long for sex. I never di…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 08:50 AM
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You made some very good points here, especially concerning the 'fresh' parent. This can't happen in single parent households and no matter how stressed the parent, mom or dad, has become there is no one to step in and help. My father was our primary parent. My mother probably shouldn't have had children and really just gave my father one more person to take care of, although her behaviors were outright destructive to our family. Luckily my dad's parents and aunt were very involved in our lives. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 01:00 AM
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When I see or hear accounts like yours I always think it isn't really surprising parents, and mothers especially, feel stressed and overwhelmed constantly. It has to be exhausting to oversee every little word and behavior their child engages in. I would be exhausted and stressed too if I was trying to monitor and control every action taken by another living being. Even animals do not always behave the way we expect and would like while children possess their own free will and thoughts. They aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 12:51 AM
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The Walt and Skylar dynamic is a good example to use. I've witnessed court appearances in which a man (or a woman it isn't just men who break the law) is in front of the judge while his wife is in hysterics. Some people are very cruel in those situations and openly state she has no right to be upset as her husband made the choices that landed him there. It isn't that simple though. People will rationalize and manipulate their own thoughts and feelings to excuse a loved one's behavior and their g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 12:15 AM
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It is great that you ended the relationship. Physical violence can't be tolerated. I understand why you still felt horrible about it though. That was something I struggled with. Even after I knew a relationship wouldn't work or that I was putting up with behavior I absolutely should not have, I still felt guilty. I don't like hurting other people, even if they brought it on themselves. It is a terrible feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 12:10 AM
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This is a great reply. Many marriages involving two people who are miserable came about out of doing what is expected. We're supposed to date, marry, have children. People do stay in relationships and move on to marriage out of guilt and most people who do this are trying to be good people but in the end it isn't good for either partner. Perhaps being more selfish and judgmental during the dating phase would prevent some dysfunctional marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 12:08 AM
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If leaving a sick spouse due to not wanting to deal with it isn't immoral, what is? Is anything immoral or is it just a free for all and the only thing that matters is 'i'm happy and if I'm not happy I'm leaving." Do other people matter at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 12:03 AM
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Fertility rates might be below replacement rates here, but they certainly aren't in other places in the world. The human population overall is still expanding exponentially. I don't know the numbers but I think immigration is contributing to the US population continuing to increase. I don't necessarily agree with that but before I would consider it a good thing for fertility rates to increase I would like to see what part of the population is having multiple children. Simply increasing fertility…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 02:56 AM
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Forcing them to stay together? Forcing a man to stay in a relationship he doesn't want to be in while parenting children he doesn't want sounds like an excellent recipe for abuse. Children would not be safe in such circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 02:40 AM
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Why? More children would mean each child gets less. I actually intend to homeschool my kids, that I haven't had yet so I should probably get moving on that, but it isn't for religous reasons. I think our school system i America is pathetically inadequate while catering to the lowest common denominator and I want my children to actually have an education. I would like to learn other skills too that children simply have no exposure to in most cases today. Two is my limit. I won't have more than tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 02:34 AM
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I don't know if links are allowed in this sub. I would hope so since it is a debate sub. Debates without sources aren't good for much of anything. I already posted two links in another comment but here are some sources for prevalence of BPD: I don't know how credible this one is but I'll put it out there. People can judge for themselves if they trust these numbers or not: How Common is Borderline Personality Disorder? https://www.bridgestorecovery.com/borderline-personality-disorder/common-borde…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 03:25 AM
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Where are you getting your numbers. I know it isn't nearly as rare as a 'fraction of 1 percent,' so I looked it up to be sure. There are a number of different sources and the numbers vary somewhat between them but none of them are even close to the rarity you are claiming. Do you have a credible source for this? Why do you think it is so rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 03:12 AM
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Research has shown it really isn't more common in women. It is more commonly diagnosed in women. It also depends on where you find the research. BPD isn't a concrete diagnosis. Most people are misdiagnosed at first, and most commonly the misdiagnosis is bipolar. They aren't commonly co-occurring disorders. Younger people with BPD exhibit many symptoms of bipolar disorder. Men do not seek treatment for mental health issues as often as women and they tend to wait until later in life to really thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 03:08 AM
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Really? Is that what women do? What planet do you people live on. Yes, very shallow women who never had to worry about money might do these things. Those of us who grew up struggling don't blow money like that. I buy new clothes maybe once a year, for myself or family. The rest is ebay and yard sales. I put a lot of effort into doing things as cheaply as possible for us, the animals, and anything else I have to manage. I doubt very much I'll ever 'get over' that habit after living most of my chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:57 PM
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I was so disgusted with this OP I didn't even know what to say to it. With very few exceptions my experience has been exactly the opposite. Men spend and waste while their gfs and wives are almost sick from worrying about finances. Granted I live in a very economically depressed area but thats definitely the pattern. Unfortunately the men aren't spending on 'motorcycles.' They're spending on booze, gambling, fishing and hunting gear, poker games at the club (which I guess is booze and gambling) …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:48 PM
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I suppose this is just a difference in personalities. I don't consider having a bf, or having a husband as I currently do, to be a chore. I want to be with another person I know I can rely on and that we will be there to support each other. My marriage is not going well at the moment but I dont have any doubt my husband loves me and I certainly still love him. I don't think I'll ever be the one to end the relationship and stop trying. that will have to come from him and he has shown no indicatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 10:44 PM
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I like how you mentioned what you consider 'hot' and the points you made about finding men attractive. When I see a man I consider to be in the top tier I don't even have any interest and most of the time those men are going to be appearing on a screen. It just isn't reality. There are lots of men I find attractive. I honestly find more men to be 'attractive' than not. I don't have a specific set of qualities I find to be physically attractive. There are all sorts of physical features and the wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 10:39 PM
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Very true. Once people get into a cycle of behavior or a particular state of mind it can be very difficult to break out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 10:33 PM
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I actually thought about this for quite a while before replying. I would think the answer is going to be different from every woman who engages in casual sex. Some of them do so because they like sex. That is the simplest answer. The positives outweight the negatives for them. Unfortunately i've also known women, mostly young women, who do the drunk-hookup thing consistently because they have self-esteem issues that are seriously interfering with their lives. Just to be clear, I do not intend th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 10:32 PM
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They do. It is ridiculous. I can't even imagine being in college and having permission slips from my parents. I did actually have to do that for a few things my freshman year because I wasn't 18 until the end of the school year. After that, I didn't need my parents permission for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:58 PM
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I never thought about this before but you're right. I don't have kids but I am sometimes absolutely disgusted by what I see parents doing. I was 17 in my first year of college too. So was my brother. We live in the country and we were out riding our quads and running all over the place with friends from grade school on up. I still remember our 'cabin' down by the creek and scavenging junk for it everytime the water rose and swept stuff downstream. People were still leaving stuff on the creek ban…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:56 PM
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What are you basing your beliefs on? I'm not saying your wrong. In general I've also noticed that women tend to want the long-term commitment first. There are exceptions of course. I am wondering how you are so certain of what men are feeling. It is very difficult to ever know what another person is feeling. They can always lie or state how they are feeling when they don't really know so it isn't actually a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 10:52 PM
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This is part of why I find this sub so interesting. Is it possible for a man to ever 'fall in love' with a woman he does not have a strong sexual desire for? Does it ever work when men, or women, don't feel that immediate attraction but decide to give it a chance because they know the prospective partner is a good person?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 10:26 PM
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Yes you're right. I would like to argue but I really can't. Even my father told me I really should have put a bit more thought into it before marrying him. I suppose I'm lucky he didn't actually develop an addiction until 34. I never had a problem with weed but that wasn't the only thing he was doing. He's from a very religious family although I realize that doesn't mean much. I don't know what will happen but I don't really want a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:55 AM
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Do you really only know such selfish women? I don't have a son, nor any other children. I've lost a lot more than I gained in my marriage, although I'm not divorced yet. Hopefully I won't be. I don't want to end my marriage but when my husband developed a drug addiction something had to change. If I do end up divorced I don't want anything from him. The only thing he really has is his father's property he inherited and I would never take that from him. It belongs to his family. If we ever have c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:33 AM
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You're right. It would be meaningless. I'm not exactly happy overall. I've got some issues going on in life. I do have happiness in my life though. I have my furry ones who live with me. They are all rescues and seeing them happy and healthy makes me happy. My husband and I are not doing well at the moment but I'm not ready to give up on my marriage. We'll either work it our or we won't but I don't know how that will go either way yet. My parents have health problems and I'm doing much better wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 12:09 AM
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What kind of nonsense is this. What do you mean men aren't masculine enough? they aren't fitting your standards based on the cover of the Romance novels? Men can do and act however they wish, just like we can. I don't see any lack of 'masculine' men. If they don't want to do whatever you think is masculine they don't have to. Good lord if I ever heard a woman speak to or about my brother this way I would probably be the one feeling violent. He would shrug it off, I wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:53 PM
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When I first discovered TRP and MRA I was disgusted with it. I still am disgusted with some of their ideas but after thinking about it for a bit I can see why men become furious and develop very negative ideas concerning women. A friend of my husbands is in a relationship with a woman with 3 kids None of them are his. She has her tubes tied so he is not ever going to have a child with her. We've both asked him what he is thinking. Why would he want to be with a woman who has 3 kids to 2 differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:37 PM
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I'm not going to argue that women do this. They do. It isn't every woman that does it though. I don't have much respect for women that operate this way, even as a woman myself. It is a complete lack of respect for the guy she suckers into taking care of her and her kids. I don't know if it is a lack of respect for herself as well. I think so but obviously they don't or they wouldn't be doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:18 PM
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I read your reply to my comment above. I think what you're saying here makes a lot of sense. I know women are not supposed to say such things but I don't have a lot of patience with other women who go out, get drunk, in bed with a different guy every weekend, then pretend they are just looking for a guy who won't just want sex. Well, if sex is all your offering that's what they're going to take. I find it dishonest when women sleep with some men and not others as well. It is deceitful to pretend…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:47 AM
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I'm not in complete agreement with the current popular flavor of feminism but I consider myself a feminist to some extent. I do have a brother. I value his life more than my own and if something happened to him I don't know if I could ever get over it. I also have a father I love with all my heart and every feminist has a father so should have some empathy for men. If fathers are absent, abusive, or terrible parents I would not expect the same result and it might contribute to a negative view of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:16 AM
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I actually think your process is a great idea. If a woman takes you up on the invitation to a party she probably knows what the goal is and can decide to go or not. If she goes then she is probably up for it too. I feel this is a much better avenue than going on an actual 'date' with no intention of commitment while the woman tries to figure out what the guy actually wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 04:07 AM
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How can dating not be a form of testing for a woman looking for a partner and not just sex? Even if she is just interested in sex dating still has to be some kind of test. The vast majority of men aren't going to do anything to harm their date but women still have to be cautious and make sure they aren't with someone who is in the tiny percentage that do hurt women. If the person is a stranger at that point the only way to learn about him is through dating. This would be much different when the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:58 AM
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Edit: I did not realize the assumption of women having sex with some men while not others is already implied in this thread. That was a very stupid mistake on my part. I'll pose my questions anyway even though I realize the comments in this thread are responding to the situation in the OP only. Maybe you know the women your dating well enough to know her past sexual history but how could you know such a thing with a new acquaintance? Every woman does not have casual sex. I happen to be one of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:44 AM
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Nothing. It might take a little while for her to believe him though, depending on past experiences. She also might think that if she has sex too quickly with a man she truly likes and wants to be with that he will have a low opinion of her. These are just possibilities. I'm sure there are more reasons I'm not thinking of. I know when I was in my late teens/early 20s I believed men would think very poorly of me if sex occurred immediately or if I had multiple partners. I'm still not entirely conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 07:36 AM
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You're right. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 07:27 AM
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Do you believe men do not hold such views? I'll admit I also believe that men do not place much value on a woman who has sex immediately. Men will sometimes state this outright. I read a post on TRP that turned into an argument over 'promoting' a plate to a LTR could ever happen if she had sex on the first date. The majority stated that is a dealbreaker. Once a woman does that she can not ever be a gf or LTR because she has disqualified herself. I knew my husband long before we started dating. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 10:05 PM
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This is very true and yet another point I thought would be obvious. When men lie and pretend to be interested in a relationship but in reality they want sex it is going to influence a woman's behavior. Why would she continue engaging in a behavior that results in her feeling hurt and used? I don't know what is so hard to understand about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 09:52 PM
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I can understand your perspective. You are looking for sex. I can't tell from your comment if you mean you want sex while dating her or if you just want a date in order to have a jump off point to get sex. If you are only interested in sex with her that isn't really dating. Why not just pursue women who also want casual sex? They exist. I don't think it is rare. Wouldn't that be more productive and less frustrating than trying to convince a woman who is looking for a relationship to settle for j…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 09:36 PM
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I will admit to being confused quite often when I read threads in this sub. I suspect I just don't understand a key concept involved. The answer to this question seems very obvious to me. A young woman has sex quickly after meeting a man, engages in casual sex or one night stands, and she may not like how she felt or how she was treated after doing so. Some women are looking for hook-ups and casual sex. Fine. There is nothing wrong with that. There are also women who don't want to have sex with …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 09:24 PM
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I realized too late what can sometimes be going on in relationships when a man who is fairly successful marries a woman 23 years younger than he is when she does not have equal education or accomplishments. That was the situation my husband's parents were in. His father passed away 2 years ago at 74. He is only 34. I didn't notice the extreme power differential in their relationship because I met them when his father's health was starting to decline and all the children were adults. My MIL has a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:22 PM
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This has been my personal experience as well. Many of the surgeons at hospitals in surrounding counties are either from India or they are second generation. Many of them are Hindus and their wives are the same age while they have multiple children. Even the white doctors are usually married to women their own age they met in school and almost all of them have families together. Our local GP is a wonderful man who does a lot to help people in poverty with no health insurance. This has been improv…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:50 PM
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I understand that the commonly accepted dynamic in LTRs is men-support-women. I don't know how much that dynamic has changed. Maybe it is still the majority and men support women more often than not. It isn't always true. I've had to support my husband for years and if he hadn't started lying to me and doing whatever he wanted while fighting with me intentionally to keep me from every saying anything about it, I would probably still be doing so. I didn't really mind working while he worked part …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 06:07 PM
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This is a good point. Humans will do cruel and vile things as part of a group that they would never do as individuals. I find it interesting to look into what makes some people susceptible to influence from the group while others are not and actually fight against it. There is so much information out there I couldn't even begin to go into it here. I don't think it will ever be something that is explained through concrete facts and statements but common traits and circumstances can be studied.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 03:36 AM
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I've been really shocked at how many people seem to think all women in the US have access to affordable BC. That is not true at all. I noticed u/bellataco brought up the religious aspect and that has a huge influence where I am too. I'm also not in the south, I live in PA. The only low-income clinic we ever had was quite literally forced out by protesters and people with a great deal of influence in the churches are also elected into local government. When that clinic closed there was nowhere fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 04:38 AM
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You don't have meth in the UK? I never really thought about that so I just looked it up.The numbers are much less than the US. I'm not really surprised by that. Everything we do here in the US almost immediately creates a worse problem yet people are more worried about sounding self-righteous than actually doing anything beneficial. Meth is everywhere in my neck of the woods. I've unfortunately learned that when people who want drugs can no longer get what they want, they'll switch substances. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 04:19 AM
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Isn't that sort of what is being implied? Prostitutes on the street tend to look like they have rough lives, probably because they do have rough lives. Escorts aren't just attractive, they are educated and have learned how to carry on interesting conversation, eat at high-end restaurants and attend events normally associated with the wealthy. A woman walking the streets probably is not at a stage in her life that would make gaining the skills or demeanor of an escort possible. I don't mean that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 01:56 AM
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Thank you bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 10:51 AM
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I felt very frustrated and honestly a little disgusted when I read about that incident. No there was nothing illegal going on there. I think the woman was incredibly stupid or had a very unrealistic view of what was going on. The situation the woman described had one very obvious attempt at sex after another occuring in a very short period of time yet she kept sticking around like it was going to turn into something different. There really was no good reason for her to have not left much earlier…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 10:49 AM
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Yes they probably have. I'm sure they have now that you mention it. It just isn't a common thing or something they are going to actively seek out. If your point here is that I might not know everything they do, that is very true. Most of us are married now or at least in long-term relationships so I can't really say that they never did this. I remember a lot more tears and complaining about guys they either were dating or wanted to be dating than trying to find casual sex but its reasonable to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 10:39 AM
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Is it really that common for women to meet a guy then go home with him just for sex? I truly am asking. I have no experience with this at all since I never, ever wanted to do that. I can't think of any friends that have ever done this either but that doesn't mean much since those friends have a very similar background and common interests. I'm actually trying to imagine going to a man's home with the expectation of having sex with him and only associating with him for sex. It doesn't sound appea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 09:45 AM
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