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I've been living with my Gf for 3 years and our room mate (woman) for 1.5 years. They're essentially incapable of keeping anything in order. Like they never grew out of the "disordered teenage room" phase. Dishes pile up until it topples over , clothes are thrown all over the place , they won't touch the trash (or compost which is Sooo important , they say , to save the planet. But , like eww , not touching that). Cat hair every where , while they browse pint-terest and instagram. ...except when…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 03:25 PM
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What's attractive to women is different than what's attractive to men. You focus on physical appearance as a measure of effort to attract the opposite sex only because men are more visually receptive. A girl could be a total fuck up in every other department and still get laid if she's 8+ And on that note I'd say that looking fit ain't cheap either; Gym memberships (not to factor in the time there) and suppliment don't fall from the sky. Being a flabby push over won't cut it no more. As a side n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 02:25 PM
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There is no rite of passage for men, and if there was feminists would go ape shit just to get women doing the same which would defeat the entire purpose of having a rite of passage for men to begin with. Women have their first period and childbirth I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:25 PM
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You guys can keep repeating this until the cows come home, but the truth is, you can't know this A few years back I played an online game called "world of warcraft". It's a group focused game where you level a character, join groups and take down boss type creatures to get powerful items. Long story short i was running two healer type characters, a (male) undead priest and a (female) orc shaman. Out of the two, my female character was by far better treated than her male counterpart. The same per…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 12:57 PM
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I mean they'll use their sexuality as means to get attention, mostly from men. Deep down i don't think they dig women at all. But when you grab your girlfriend's boobs and post it online with some dumb ass caption "just me and my bae at the beach"you end up with a fuck ton of likes/up votes or whatever. 'Cause its kinda edgy. But that's the thing. Genuine bisexuals wouldn't be posting things like that and would probably go about their daily lives normally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 07:52 PM
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Also, would red pill guys ever consider a bisexual woman as wife material? I wouldn't personally. Frankly all "bisexual" women I've ever known were, for the lack of a better word, attention whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 10:05 PM
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There is always an element of risk, but people who are reasonably fit, intelligent and have social skills tend to do well in dating. I'm not sure risk and luck could be used interchangeably in this context. Say you go out and socialize, you'd be lucky to meet someone with whom it clicks. While there exists a risk of being harassed, assaulted etc while you're out socializing. Risk seems to exist within a system; When you date people there's a risk that they'll use you, cheat on you, discard you. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:59 AM
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The problem is that it's not that obvious what is a matter of luck and what isn't. If you go about doing something under a certain preconceived notion of how the world work, you expect a certain result. If the result deviates too much from what you anticipated you're left wondering; Is my preconceived notion accurate enough? Am I enacting it correctly? Or was it a matter of misfortune? I believe you can't go without thinking about luck or chance, whether it's done directly or indirectly, reasses…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 07:39 PM
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It's because the rules of courtship are incredibly difficult to decipher (not to say impossible) and ambivalent answers are incredibly frustrating for various reasons; mainly because you've not gain any knowledge from the interaction. If i approach a potential mate and it fails i wanna know why so i don't make the same mistake twice. I know, the horror, right? Like you should just be yourself and stuff. Wrong. If you're undesirable you better find out why and do it fast. Analysing things in term…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 02:11 PM
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I think the lie that we're told isn't so much a question of the message forwarded rather than it is how we're supposed to act. Say for example that you were taught not to take advantage of women if they are inebriated, as we all are; Now it could be that you go out on a "not-so-obvious" date with a friend you've developed feelings for and that ,after a few shots of alcohol, you rationalize that escalating things wouldn't be taking advantage of her because you ,somehow , know amidst a torrent of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 01:19 PM
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If women were to scrap the IOI thing and assertively walk up to a man and announce her interest, it would be the same man who would have grabbed her interest anyway. However , that being explicitly in the open she probably couldn't rationalise herself being 12th in line to the carousel. She couldn't try to convince herself that she's different than the rest "all those before her were substandard", and that "she's better", she couldn't run on the notion that "he'll commit". Not only that, but bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:51 PM
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Tupac about women and bitches
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 11:59 PM
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Its the result of unrealistic body-image men face similar to the Barbie figure beauty standard women face.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 04:42 PM
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Yes, You can't have it all despite what you've been told. Choices and limitations goes hand in hand, if you choose to focus on higher education & career it will obviously take away from a limited pool of resources; Time, money, social standing etc. that you'd normally need to even engage in romance to begin with ,and make it harder for you to find someone you feel is on-par with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 03:58 PM
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That's the point of the Op ain't it? If gender is a social construct, and parity ought to be attain in all social affairs , then those who advocating this should also be fighting for the normalization of women asking men out. If gender isn't a social construct, then across the board fight equality is a sham.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 05:56 AM
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Seems like you're skipping a lot of steps here: A women initiating will not inevitably get pregnant. Again, the issue raised is that women will take for granted the men that initiates with her just as much as men will take for granted the women that initiates with them. Actually it might just be that women will take men for granted even more given that comparatively more men will ask women out than the other way around. Before feminism this was counter balance by having men being valued for othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 04:07 PM
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I think men need to imagine how frustrating it is to give a guy a billion signs that you like him when he doesn't pick up on them. Ever heard of mixed signals? That's why the easiest way to start a relationship nowadays is to get drunk around the person you like and hope something happens. What like, take advantage of a girl while she inebriated? Not only do we have to deal with mix signal on a personal level but on a societal level women both want and condemn what men are suppose to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:15 PM
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I think it comes down to the fact that women have more to lose from a relationship with a man. How so, I mean specifically how or what would a women lose that a men wouldn't by acting the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 10:35 PM
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I never said it should only apply to women and not men. For all we know its the default human reaction to sexual/romantic advances. But then , if that's the case , it has some broader implication for anyone that advocates - romantic relationships between equals- since the starting position is one of value over the other . And you may wonder if that's what the traditional gender roles were really about; If the pursuer is intrinsically under-valued compared to the object of the chase , then it wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 09:22 PM
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the vibe got so weird and I felt like he wasn't into it anymore. It was almost like I was too "easy" for him. There's something to be said for men wanting a chase and valuing something more if it's more difficult to get. Do you think the same might apply the other way around in both instances? I mean it certainly seem to me like women take men for granted once they get asked out: dating multiple people, working jealousy, flaking , leading on, breaking up on a whim. I can understand valuing somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:47 PM
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A side issue to this is that the Vetting process is also indistinguishable from being lead on. Which is also indistinguishable from being a worthy prospect that just didn't play his cards right. Compounded with women's predilection for retroactive thinking and that the modern day rules of "courtship" are less than self evident; I'd think that the frustration isn't so much as lacking the perspective of others rather than the chaos that such a setting provides.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 08:23 PM
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I think people should be able to dress however they want as long as they aren't explicitly and intentionally distracting you with actions that they take while wearing that dress. When is it ever intentional? See, that's the problem; you give women the choice of playing dumb and not be accountable for anything. Moreover I'd say this attitude towards women extend to all works of courtship if not to say every day trivialities. And when you play dumb for to long you forget how to act smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:30 PM
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So you'd rather be suffering; homeless, cold and famished , than suffering rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 04:13 PM
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Friend of mine back in the days was rich, filthy rich. I'd go as far to say that his parents were millionaires. A few months ago I heard that he killed himself. No doubt he suffered, you could say every one does in some sense. Even piss poor people. I'd think it would be crazy to say that it's not better to be suffering and rich than to be suffering and poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 02:42 PM
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Incels have this idea that in order to be a worthy man or human, you need to garnish the sexual approval of women. Without this approval, you are Shit. Worthless. Not even a real man. I don't know where this idea comes from to be honest. 'Ever heard the saying "Woman are human beings and Men human doing"? It used to be that men were men because of what we did. It made us valuable to the tribe, village, community. We were hunters , blacksmiths, academics ,politicians ,soldiers. Because we were va…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 08:09 PM
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The most important decision in your entire life, at that moment, as an individual, is to turn around and say "Hello." Thing is; you need a follow up to that hello. Even if you two were to "click" right there and then, you'll need to behave in some manner that falls within a common understanding of how to move things forward. Much how a discussion is formed by a language that is built around a priory understanding of its parameters. As an individual, you are on your own. The Dionysian world is fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 04:39 PM
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I have no idea what are the extent of the U.N.'s powers. Evidentially however, feminists think its worthy enough to lobby its members for action. Anitta and her likes not withstanding , we had that whole Heforshe thing a few months ago... and a few more I'm sure , i just can't keep up with the plight of the north american women any more. Why would they waste their time there if they didn't think anything tangible would come out of it? If its not a flat out ban it would probably manifest itself w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 10:55 PM
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Dunno, but the single fact that she got , not just a seat, but a say at the U.N. is mind boggling. Not mentioning her presence at Google ideas. I mean, if they'd ban trade of material offensive to feminism, they surely it will have an impact on game creators.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 08:44 PM
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She holds near-zero influence on the gaming community and is only relevant to people who like arguing about her. Didn't she get speech at the United Nations and a Google panel thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 08:10 PM
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I'd think that both gender come back for more or less the se reason. From personal experience, the approach is different however. Men will be more overt, direct in expressing what we are coming back for and we expect and with a recognition of what went wrong. Women are ambiguous; they never were the pursuers the first time and have no incentives to do so the second time around. Deep down I think it's too hard on their ego to admit some wrong doings or that perhaps that they failed moving up in r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 01:46 PM
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Proportionally, how many men sell their body for money to other men compared to women selling their body to men that they'd otherwise feel repulsed by? Online , in porn as strippers or escorts. I'd say it's beyond obvious that more women do this more than men. On a large enough scale, more women are willing to omit the revulsion they'd normally feel , to having sex with incels or whatever , if there's a monetary gain than the revulsion men feel towards gay sex and the likes if there would be a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 12:25 AM
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Yeah but do they enjoy the sex? Doesn't really matter, the CMW of this thread is; The repulsion straight men feel when thinking of men sexually is similar to the repulsion women feel when thinking of fucking a man they are sexually repulsed by. Clearly its not the case, or at least not as straight forward as first put. If they don't enjoy the sex , they sure as hell enjoy the money and all that brings them. If anything we can conclude that , for women, sex is something with exchange value , firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 05:23 AM
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I pretty sure prostitutes have sex with men they would feel otherwise repulsed by if it wasn't for the money they get out of it. Taking this as meeting grounds, i'd doubt as many men would for the same amount of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:12 PM
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Doesn't really matter , they'll still be bitching just as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:15 PM
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Sure I would. I just don't see where we'd meet however, its not like our paths would casually intertwine in such a manner that'd make courtship possible. Also , from personal experiences, I think these kind of women are completely daft when it comes to showing interest. They probably imagine that men react to similar queues that women would react to; "women love displays of social and economic abundance, so I'll assume men will to. Let me wow him with this brand new car & pictures of the months …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 10:02 PM
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It's like complaining that the Hulk gave you inaccurate information about Gamma Radiation Safety or Iron Man lied to you about the realistic expectations of an engineer. Would you argue that line if we were talking body image, Barbie and it's impact on women? Stories , art and music act like moral compass , as a guide to things we are aware but don't know or understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 10:44 PM
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He had somewhere to go. Of course he had to go, that's the only way you can sexually frustrate yourself and deny him an emotional and/or sexual dimension. The gist was, women require their engines to get revved up before thinking about sex. Right , but the devil's in the detail. And specifically in this case, in the way you decided to end your story which was completely unsolicited to the fact that women need there engines revved. Hell , everyone , man or woman needs a few sequences of things to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:05 PM
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Biological implication doesn't withdraw the human implications. Even if oestrogen makes you self-absorbed, you're still being self absorbed. Hitting every nail on the head, our idealized Romeo in your short story above is still sent off to wherever he came from. Christ, you even frustrated yourself As you stand there lady blue-balled... Just what the fuck needed to happen? Apparently sticking "bodily appendages into holes" was something you would've fancied damn much despite all that oestrogen r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 10:56 PM
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You'll realize it's nothing to do with "self absorption" and more to do with biology being all biological and shit. So bio-truths when its convenient?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 10:06 PM
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Of course not. TLDR woman neither think of sex or relationships, they are far too self absorbed to consider anything beyond their immediate self. Hell, even her fantasy ends with her perfect man leaving on a train. Where is he going, how will they ever meet again, nobody knows. Lovely symbolicism though; the perfect man leaving on a phalic representation. As if, by virtue of his sexuality, men is rendered unworthy and ought to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 01:16 PM
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Finally, the thought of being with him crosses your mind... See how long that took? Hell, and we ain't even there yet. A creeping panic sets in and you don't want him to think you look too easy just now. So the next time he text's you , you figure that pulling out the good old "too busy to do anything tonight + (flirty emoticon)" will give him pause. A few days goes by and he contact you again to see what's up. You chat for a while , and its great , but you wanna know how hard he's willing to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 11:50 AM
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But there's no evidence to suggest single fathers are more attractive than men who are married. Plenty of unattractive deadbeats exist too. I never mentioned anything about the attractiveness of either party involved in unwanted pregnancies. All I said was that women select, for sex and breeding. And if women select , it is because men pursue. In this day an age , there is literally no excuses (short of being forced) to select and conceive with a men that you'd not see yourself spending your lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 10:23 PM
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either the kid was genuinely unplanned, or more likely, people get married, decide to have a kid, then things don't work out. See that's my problem with it; How could anyone be so careless with something so important? You're bringing life into this world, its a life-long commitment, same with marriage (theoretically), not some stylish thing to get then throw away comes the fall fashion. why aren't single fathers horrible too? Well they are. Thing is, it's not men that decide who's genes are carr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 06:54 PM
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"I just want a guy that looks good in pictures". "Relationships are kinda like jobs, you're always looking for better". Both blurted out by a girl I know from the gym. Solidified my belief that women see men as either functional or ornamental at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 01:15 PM
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To be clear, my comment is not saying BP gives better advice than RP. However its important to value the content of the advice given to see if reading between the lines is warranted or not. In the case of "mainstream advice" , reading between the lines is pointless because the advice is void of content; "Just be yourself" or "be the better version of yourself" is 90% based on your ability to read between the line or fill in the blank. In the case of TRP advice, it can be taken with a grain of sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 02:19 AM
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This is not about the actual advice. How could it not be? What TRP offer is something i can use, something tangible; Its true enough that I can shape it to my, personal, state of affairs. What TBP offers is something so vague as to render it useless as a starting point. then RPers act SHOCKED when people don't pick up on their covert message. One could argue that any piece advice will have a covert part since circumstances will change from person to person. But since the TBP advice essentially b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 01:36 AM
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You're missing my point. I don't think he is; different sets of advice , in terms of precision, requires different sets of interpretation. An vague advice like "just be yourself" or "just be the better version of yourself" is utterly pointless in a dating environment where courtship is so chaotic. Someone who's already at a lost ,dating , cannot use his innate common sense to figure things out... because he hasn't already. On the other hand, more precise pieces of advice like "women will date up…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 09:45 PM
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That's what people with asperger are, you retard
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 05:45 PM
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I am a fully diagnosed aspie. If you are, and your parents were aware, why would they have thrown their handicapped daughter to the wolfs like that? Doesn't seem very loving and caring behaviour. And just what the fuck were you doing from 14 to 20 anyway? Shouldn't your parents have you placed in some special education school. And if you're so socially inept that you can't finish high school and work a min job, how the hell can you manage your Johns and let alone your higher education? My parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 04:19 PM
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Just because I'm socially awkward and I don't like being around people for long periods of time doesnt mean I can't do a degree. Being socially awkward and not liking being around people doesn't mean you have asperger. The self diagnosed Asperger suffer have been the plague of the internet forums lately. Do most parents pay for their childrens adult lives? I'd sooner pay to get them to their adult lives as opposed to them prostituting themselves to their adult lives. Should your parents feel the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 12:19 PM
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I have Aspergers and most jobs don't suit me very well. Because I dropped out of high school at 14, I didnt have many qualifications to get me any job better than minimum wage. But somehow managed into a degree in Cognitive Neuroscience and Health Psychology? I don't have the option to live with my parents, they don't support me financially but they make too much money to get me government help. Why wouldn't loving parents in a upper middle class home not support their daughter going through uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 11:55 AM
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Its not like you are forced to prostitute your self for your studies , plenty of other folks go to college & university without; Can you justify your decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 11:26 AM
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I've seen a lot on the red pill claiming that women who travel aren't long term relationship material. For whatever reason , a certain type of girl feels like travelling ,away from home, gives them free rein to indulge in behaviours that would normally be considered outrageous. As the french would say : loin des yeux loin du coeur and that no grounds to build a LTR on. Its as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 09:27 PM
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That picture isn't even a shit test. How do you think women don't participate directly? I think a vast majority of women act , in courtship, in a manner that's exactly like what's implied in the picture. This girl finds this guy interesting, at least physically, but gives him all the reasons to think she'd be uninteresting not to say unapproachable; shit testing Shit testing is ,at its core, a device to test a persons reaction, with seemingly no correct answer to the problem. Because what's bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 07:37 AM
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Change the attitude towards shit tests. See, as a woman, you get it drilled into you that you can never ask for things directly, never talk directly, etc. It's not women being bad people. I would encourage people to lay down the law, e.g. you at least try to say what you want and how you feel. No bullshit and hints or you're gone. Shit test isn't just asking for things indirectly, its asking things through opposites. A few weeks ago, this picture made the front page of reddit and i think it make…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 08:28 PM
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No its not. Shaming is a verb, and even if you are feeling shame it does not mean I am shaming you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 08:03 PM
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Them not being relationship material is the shaming part. Why? Why is this shaming if its part of the social consequences of sleeping around. Are stating facts shaming now?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 07:49 PM
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There is a difference between warning about the repercussions and being a part of it. No. Its what being a social creature is all about; You are part of the social structure whether you like it or not. Warning of repercussions an enacting them aren't mutually exclusive. Either way men should be honest and say that they don't want a slut because they want to feel special. See here is where the crux of the issue. Even if we take your piss poor jab as ground for the argument , how men want women is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 07:31 PM
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why is something being easy equals bad? Its not. However there are some repercussions to being easy , and stating them is considered shaming by BP. Similar to how stating the dangers of obesity or advocating fitness & healthy diets is considered fat shaming by... the Fatpill, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 06:47 PM
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2) Do you believe AWALT, i.e. all women expect men to get it? I think its worst than that, we're expected to "get it" while being told the opposite of what "it" is. So when you're young and unsuccessful with girls you watch movies about some beta dork slaving his way to the girl of his dreams, which doesn't translate to success in real life. Then you move on to higher education where you are told, don't be that guy , wait for obvious signs , consent is sexy , which again doesn't yield result IRL…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 11:51 PM
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Sounds to me more like a case of the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back than a one time thing that led to an overreaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 06:26 PM
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If it was just that it'd be bad enough, but those same women will turn around and cheer on their cougar friends and give you an ear full of the oppression of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 08:36 PM
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I honestly can't think of a single example of a girl dating down (looks-wise) at HS. Most of them went with older guys anyway. Same. They were dating older guys under the pretense that they're "more mature" than the boys their age. A few years later, when the table have turn and the men are dating younger girls , they(we) are predatory and taking advantage. Funny stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:05 PM
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Seems like its something inconsistent with the blue/purple pill narrative; Obvious sign of interest, don't force things ,equal partnerships. I think its far more prevalent in women than it is in men, and specially so in the mid 20's ; They're not necessarily aware that they are using this technique but its evidently men that will do the social heavy lifting when initiating courtship, so it follows that it's going to be part of the vetting process. Moreover , "Playing hard to get" becomes intertw…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 02:35 PM
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-And the results are in, Gold for the 2015 victim-olympic's 1km-broken-record-bullet-point-reductionism. Incredible, isn't Jim? -That's right Tod, who knows the effort & amount of twisted logic it takes to have that "Strong,confident and independent" woman break down to the most helpless and incapable person society has to cater to, but... well here we have it! -That's right Jim. Nobody knows what's going to happen next, but you can be sure it's somebody else's fault if it turns sour. -And all h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 10:25 PM
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Its not blaming the victim when she/he's in the driver's seat, that's called responsibility honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:58 PM
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By your logic anyone that moves past their rape should be ok with rape. Because I mean 'They moved on', right? They brushed rape off once we should just ask them to do it again. By our logic, one would expect , whether someone as move beyond their rape or not, that a person wouldn't place themselves deliberately in a situation where distress is likelier to happen. The only other possible explanations would be that: The reward outweighs the risk, the distress levels are grossly overstated, the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:16 PM
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I'm only saying what you're saying, guessing that makes you the gold medalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:57 PM
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Because I don't let shitty people dictate how I spend my time. That's what I was getting at; "harassment" isn't a big deal because you can and should be brushing it off, don't let others dictate your life!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 02:53 PM
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And if the club scene was so terrifying, one would have to wonder why anyone not completely out of their mind would continue going there at all, not to mentioning spending all the cash and time prepping themselves up to go to such places, dressed provocatively at that. Something doesn't add up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 01:54 PM
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That's great and all but unfortunately for you the study isn't concerned with averages, although it mentions the median. In no way does the study claim that the averages of whatever metrics its proposing are in some way significant or worth considering. Moreover the study supports my previous points, quoted from the study; Several explanation for this ubiquitous finding(The difference in partner count) have been suggested and all play some role in the NSFG results presented here: The possibility…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 09:37 PM
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the actual scientific study did have strict parameters of what did and did not constitute sex. Quote it. My point is simply that, IF those two things are true, the actual number MUST be in between the two. If women over report instance of rape and men under report instances of rape, do you think it makes any shred of sense to claim that the actual number of rape is between the two? I make no claims about the soundness of the study. Then any conclusion you make can just be as easily be dismissed …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 10:22 PM
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And the study this is all in reference to, had clearly defined parameters for what did and did not count as a sexual partner. No it didn't, it is not mentionned in the linked articles. There's a study examining what men and women consider sex (with some study linked), an NBC click bait "10 astonishing facts about <blank>!" (with no details on what is considered sex) and a business insider blog-ish copy/past job that turns in circle (with no link to a study). None of which approaches the topic of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 10:15 PM
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Actually the articles linked supports what i said before. Young women seem to want to keep their numbers lower, while men want their numbers to be higher. A 2001 study of college students in the U.K. published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior titled “Which Behaviors Constitute Having Sex?” showed that, compared with women, a greater percentage of men count oral sex and manual sex as “sex” when they’re tallying their partners—presumably because they want to boost their number. Of the 11 sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 08:37 PM
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Great flair, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 02:15 AM
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Here's a video that , I find , explores the topic thoroughly You're so lazy Lev, give a synopsis, I ain't watching that! Well, its about the Madona/Whore complex and how some very apt and capable men are twisted to see all women as only interested in them for their fame & fortune, so they latch on to the whore in hope of finding some genuine love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 02:05 AM
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They had a study done in the U.s. bible belt on whether or not the "abstinence" pledge worked. Long story short a high number of guys , having taken the pledge , reported having sexual intercourses while girls , vowing abstinence , reported no such things. After reworking the question in the survey ,the researchers found that guys would lump in all manners of sexual activities as sex; Hand jobs , blow jobs, dry humping and all the rest. While women did not. In my experience women often use seman…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 01:49 AM
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The point being is this: you cannot treat the "mommy issues" by either ignoring them or using methods that are effectively all about emotional numbing, desensitization and removal of empathy. To do so is a recipe for psychopathy. If I'm going to change your views I'll ask you: who is ignoring and using emotional numbing if the blue and purple pill approach to this situation, is to tell these men to ; Deal with it , men up, stop complaining , just do the obvious thing to do, its not a big deal, (…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 04:46 PM
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Nobody asked you to justify why sex is important to you. Dude, it's the title of the thread: How important is sex/relationship to you? Well, magically, some people aren't exactly like you and don't need "proof" of these things in this specific form. Sure, a lot of people just talk the talk. Everything else being equal, having sex/relationships is ground for your desirability. How else could you substantiate your claims? You also need to walk the walk, as it were. maybe every girl who's intereste…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:18 PM
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I get that TRP is centered around getting women, but I've found that some people on here treat sex/relationships as the end goal of life. I myself was always more interested my career and bettering myself than finding a guy. If I find a guy who likes me as I pursue this goal, good. If not, oh well. Other people, however, seem to value the opposite sex as one of the main goals in life. Well someone should be pursuing the other, don't you think? Its really a privilege to wander about while others …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 10:32 PM
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I'd summarized it as, Active-flakiness or Attention-whoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 08:46 PM
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I don't care why women message the men they message, that's not my point. I'm saying that men will message (Or court) above average women because a vast majority of women will display the same kind of attitude regardless of her look.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 08:13 PM
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Well, not quite. Because what a man sees as attractive isn't enough, it's what he does with that attractiveness. If men see 50% of women as medium to attractive are they equally messaging 50% of women? Well... Nope [Snip] But this is not the whole picture, right? We know in society, men generally pursue. So a better stat to look at would be how successful men's messages are with women. The only thing this tells me is that women , either average or above average in appearance will demand the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 07:43 PM
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Well yeah ,people will complaining about the feminization of men while telling them to man up at the same. Because its absurd, you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 02:49 AM
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Suppressing these behaviour will work to a point where women would still not date feminized men. Over and over again, on these boards, women blue/purple/red all say they love manly men; testosterone fuelled, risk taking, goal setting men, career driven, confident men. More over the functions left vacant, if we ever were to suppress these behaviour, would still need to be filled; Should more effort be put in sending women off to the frontlines or working construction sites. Who's gonna slave 80hr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 02:28 AM
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Why do they live longer? Comparatively, and generally speaking; men & boys are risk takers. I've seen somewhere that this is linked (unsurprisingly) to higher levels of testosterone found in male. It follows that some risks taken will result in death or shorten lifespan. This corresponds also to a man's social burden to prove his worth to the group he wishes to identify with. You need to work, some of the most dangerous jobs there is, for 80hr a week, usually high risked, stress prone endeavours…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 10:54 PM
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Men may not love idealistically, but given the trouble we take upon ourselves to seduce women its almost prerequisite that we'd behave as such. Men put in the effort and risk in courtship: We initiate, lead, sustain relationships, to say nothing of all the other factors that might come into play: Career, Style/Looks, Social life. A woman merely has to look good and be available, there is no social risk to be taken or even pressure to provide anything to her mate. So how else could men or women l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 04:14 PM
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Was the influence of BP that strong that you couldn't recognize that women, just like all humans, can be coldhearted and calculating? I was pretty much off the far-left-liberal-feminist side of things pre-pill. And thinking back, I don't think I lacked any of what women supposedly want: I was funny, I had a rich social life, I showed courage, determination, rebellion (something of a bad-boy thing), I had style (particular at that I'll admit), I showed concerned for the equality-the well being of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 12:16 AM
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Are you telling me this generation is too fragile and spoiled they can't "endure" the same process their fathers and grandfathers did? Something like that. The women my predecessors dealt with aren't the same creature they are today; Strong ,confident & independent woman that don't need no man but wants her man to take charge ,but don't be getting any ideas just because we're talking you rapist shitlord, you'll see the obivous signs if there's any, but make sure you ask for consent or else! My g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 10:13 PM
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Personally, I'd like it if women would start taking more initiative. Making first contact with new people, being the one to ask somebody out Its the missing piece of the puzzle. They are more than eager to take political, academic and economic power but none of the social responsibilities that goes with it. Women are still operating under the impression that they should be courted by men across & up the dominance hierarchy even though they , themselves, are "smashing the patriarchy", as it were.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 08:11 PM
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a lot of men dont seem to like being loved like women want to be loved. Seems about right; Men love & women like to be loved. If you want your views changed I'd ask you to consider which is more respectable; Loving or liking to be loved?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 07:52 PM
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Now that doesn't mean that women in these situations are powerless to control themselves or something. I suspect many male teachers find themselves extremely attracted to their female students that develop early (or hell, by 16 or 17, probably have fully-formed adult bodies). I agree , I just think it boils down to the risk vs. (perceived) reward ratio for men not being the same as women. And on the periphery women are almost encourage to "lose control". I mean, some men get killed with only the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 08:54 PM
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There is no strict ordering, and any valuations of aspects of what might be called SMV are highly dependent on the person performing the valuation. See this isn't helping at all. Even if TRP is wrong its a starting point, which is much better than being lost in the infinitude of who someone might or might not be /was or would have been / could or could've been on an individual basis. There exists enough similarities between instances to form generalities and adapt them with what you've got. it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 08:32 PM
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As I said, contextual status is extremely important for female attraction. Not so long a go, a string of incidents involving female teachers sleeping with their under-age students made front page in my neck of the wood. For the likes of me, it never made much sense why a ,supposedly ,"smart, capable & independent woman, that fancies herself a confident, well groomed & mature man" would ever sleep with a kid that's anything but. However it makes sense if we consider the points you've brought up; …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 07:06 PM
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Bad because its society that has to pick up the tab if it turns sour; Slut walks and single mothers comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 10:32 PM
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Yeah. The amount of flakiness dispensed by women nowdays is beyond comprehension. Any man capable of three separate dates deserves a medal if nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 04:02 AM
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Not really. You can still have sex with a virgin (obviously), it only becomes a problem with a committed virgin which would probably place a higher value on staying a virgin than feeling shamed by not wanting or having sex anyway. If you'd ever had an open talk to men (at that time) about being a virgin but wanting sex & a relationship, i can almost guarantee you would have gotten a partner in a heart beat
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 08:44 PM
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I never experienced direct virgin shaming, though I felt ashamed to be a virgin. Your anecdotes sound dubious to me since i can only ever recall indirect inference of virgin shaming, I've never witness statements so overtly blunt about a subject so heavily hushed by social etiquette. Virgin shaming is brought about discussion who's dating who with a pause in the conversation and a silent stare in your direction; You know, and you know everyone knows, that you aren't/haven't dated anyone yet. Its…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 05:13 PM
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Sex positivism seems fine, why bother with the Feminist part of it? These sorts of feminists are not likely to chastise you for being a creep or an objectifier or a pedophile because you're attracted to something that competes with them. Somehow i very much doubt this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 04:20 PM
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Ugh. Why is the fact that you'll fuck anything that moves worn as some kind of badge of honor... Dunno, ask sluts. Apparently its about "finding yourself" & "exploring your sexuality".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:18 PM
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Its fine in theory, in practice we still have gender-specific sporting events which shows just how much merit we, as a society, place in this statement. I don't think its so absurd to extend this distinction to matters outside sporting events; For all intents and purposes men are better at some things and women at others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 07:16 PM
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What I don't understand is why he has to have sex to feel it. Knowing it also works. Isn't knowing that she wants it validating? Mixed signals ; Most men won't get overt requests for sex from women. Retro active thinking ; There is no guaranty that her wanting it wont mean she'll take that back later. For all intents and purposes men do the initiating & pursuing. Some girl finding you attractive is only half the battle (if that), having sex means you're more competent/capable than if you wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 01:28 PM
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I'd like to ask everyone here what their biggest regrets in life are. Taking an hour extra break at home right now... I ought to be pushing Iron. What conclusions have you drawn from your mistakes? Living with regrets is easier than living with responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 10:33 PM
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The answer ain't obvious to me, so humor me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 02:38 AM
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Would you say that the people that think its shameful for a man to court a woman outnumber the ones that escaped the ''brain washing''.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 02:33 AM
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Maybe not so much ashamed ,but confused about how to proceed. Feminism is a hell of a whole lot of ''don't s'', with little to no (realistic) ''do s''.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 02:26 AM
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If not, can anyone truly go back to blissful ignorance? Doubtful. That said, play your strengths not someone else's game; If you're funny & social , go to pubs not clubs. If you're smart and career minded, conventions & festivals. Women collect sex-scapades like ...Pokemon; men are more ornamental than anything. They want to tell the story (to their girlfriends) of how they slept with : The fire-fighter, the businessman entrepreneur, the adrenaline junky , the tattooed bad boy, the MMA guy, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 09:21 PM
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Women coarse men into moral predicaments. I've said this before multiple times now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 09:25 PM
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it was completely up to me to either give consent or not. The agency never passed to the man, it was mine and mine alone. What is consent? If we go back to my place and you put yourself in ambiguity, then the agency passes over to a secondary party lest we be stuck in limbo. This is not consent. If you consent, or fail to voice your objections, then its not LMR. But if you do voice your concerns , it can either be LMR or flat out refusal You can't have it both ways: consent will never mean LMR, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 07:50 PM
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I said forced in a moral predicament. Whether its sex or something else is almost irrelevant. Yes, men are forced (by women) to act counter to their conscience or counter to what women claim to advocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 07:31 PM
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Then i suggest you run a tinder account with a complementary sex-change operation... Can't you just make a reasonable assumption from the data of a tinder profile ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:58 AM
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Yes, forced: as in coerced into moral predicament because women can't or won't follow things through unabated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:52 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:42 AM
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The topic is Last Minute Resistance. LMR is to object, in one form or an other, to sexual intercourse when all other indications would point to it otherwise. It has nothing to do with consensual sex at all, one could say its the opposite. For instance , we spent a lovely night at the pub; good convo, laughs, a little bit of dancing. We go back to my place then you go: "I think this is going too fast" or you start acting a little too tipsy. Yonder said That's definitely why I did LMR when I was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:47 PM
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What opposition? LMR, last minute resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:43 PM
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while engaging in consensual sex and thereafter. Its not really consensual if there's opposition now is it? And its quite difficult to internalize the drive to be a good person and forcing yourself onto an other. Especially so when you've been indoctrinated by a whole lot of feminist crap "don't be that guy", "there are obvious signs" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:31 PM
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Guys don't know how lucky they are that they don't have to wrestle with that! Yeah we do wrestle with that, in fact that's what women do when they LMR us; they carry over the internalization, responsibility & agency to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 12:20 PM
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And pursue us, and propose. And you know, we're not that easy , we're not those type of guys (anymore), so if you really care, you'll come up with something original and amazing to do. And you'll have to do that for a while until you either get friendzoned or dumped for a better model. Yeah , no , I can see why women would try and avoid that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 11:17 PM
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Why must it always be "men are bad because they aren't doing what I want and they should know what I want even though I am not telling them." It's even worst than that cause what we have to work with points in two opposing directions. This girl I know posted this meme/picture-thing of a little girl holding flowers looking sad with the captions; " I punched and kicked him, why doesn't he understand that I like him?" . They all loled and up voted. Freudian slips essentially , highlighting the trut…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 10:56 PM
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Women now have equal rights, equal treatment under the law, and access to jobs. Of course, we still have many more milestones to achieve: equal pay for equal work, ending rape culture, bringing down the patriarchy, and--whats relevant to this topic--bring the marriage rates back up. You know, I always figured that all of this would be resolved if women were the ones pursuing, initiating and proposing. I mean , after all we are dealing with strong confident women that know what they want. And men…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 10:34 PM
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they seem to believe the only emotions available are "I'm panicked and out of control and everything is going down the shitter"? Dunno if you read what i wrote correctly. I'm not saying that's how a man should be expressing him self, I'm saying that's how a woman would likely be thinking. And saying that "not having a job is stressing me out", even in the most mundane way , will only confirm her worst fear. at worst that would only mean "don't express unattractive emotions". I think this goes wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 03:06 PM
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How does one appear emotionless but also not inhuman? By having some sort of social function and/or social standing, a women's inner fantasy world will take care of the rest. To me it seems like a woman's thinking tend to spiral out of control, either way. If I lose my job and I feel stress and concerned about it, she'll already be thinking, bankruptcy: " And ,Omg he doesn't know what to do! If he can't find work we can't pay our bills, we'll be kicked out , where could we go? How are we gonna c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 10:35 PM
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Is it too much to start talking about emotion if all you're looking for is a ONS? Yes. Absolutely. In fact you ought to avoid talking about your emotions altogether if you have any interest long or short term relationships. Why would you want to open up and express all your emotions to women? Generally speaking, I think men are expected to be emotionless (not to say inhuman) and stoic in everyday life. A romantic interest is defaulted as someone with whom you could, theoretically, let your guard…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 05:55 PM
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Women are never hurt or rejected? Less so than men. Its easier for women to get back in the game and they have more emotional and social safety nets at their disposal on top of the fact that they aren't actually scorned,vilified or mocked for expressing themselves. Depression and suicides (not the attention-seeking type) is higher in men, so i've been told. My risk when moving in with Husband was far greater than his. The grass is always greener i guess. I could tell you that I'd rather have zer…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:01 PM
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That's beside the point. Its never your neck on the line but mine; being the gatekeeper of commitment means that I'll be absorbing hurt and rejection all over. A women will never love like a men since her position is risk free. Its not about ethics or anything else, its just the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:21 PM
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Its just seldom made explicit on the woman's part: Men pursue, initiates & propose. If women were able to love men as men love women , you'd expect something a little less one sided in terms of social obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:30 PM
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The way I see it, by a large margin, men are expected to pursues ,initiates (then maintain and show future promise) & propose. Our intentions have to be made clear and concrete. In a way, having an official assessment of a relationship realizes the prior efforts that lead to it. Women on the other hand aren't that much on the hook when it comes to finding a mate or keeping one. They"re allowed/expected to give in to their emotions, retroactively change their position and dump responsibilities to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:48 AM
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Well, I've I had 3 relationship that ended (soon after) with me uttering the words : I love you. While still trying to figure out what I did wrong I ask on r/askwomen what was their take on it and I was told (paraphrasing) that ; the "L" word was a loaded thing . And they said it like that "L" word, likes its comparable to talking about Nazism or Niggers. The "L" word. The love I was looking for in a women was a statement about trust, a statement about a way forward. I love you , means , I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:41 PM
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Could also be a case of "talking the talk". Either way its not the reality most men deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 10:32 PM
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Its not just talking now is it? Its talking and then lunch. And its not just talking , then lunch ; Its talking , then lunch , then a movie ... just the two of us. Why am I the one who's supposed to mind read? Nothing is expected of women , except perhaps to look good. Men are expected to initiate, seduce , entertain, filter out the "social queues" from a torrent of mixed signals. We're expected to be exciting but down to earth, respectful but dangerous, resolute but non-judgemental, career orie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 07:01 PM
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It didn't help that he was 14 years older than me and that I thought we were just friends going to the movies together Now I don't know who's the most socially inept in the story. And it pains me to think of all these other times your stupidity (deliberate or otherwise) planted the seed of doubt in boys who are expected to initiate courtship and mind-read "obvious" signs of interest. No wonder guys are confused nowdays, no wonder TRP is part of the social landscape.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 08:55 PM
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At any rate it gets to be a reference point when discussing sex/sexual strategy, given it's articulation of rape/rape-culture/objectification/marriage/slut-walks and the hetero-normative-partriarchal-something-or-another. And it gets especially important to consider feminism when discussing the education of young boys and expectation of women. Given that feminists would think that a good person, one I would hope they think is worthy of dating, has to be a feminist him/her self, how then do we pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 03:07 PM
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I keep expecting "obvious signs of interest" from the women i date. It takes an active effort of will & emotional disassociation to overcome the constant flaking and down right antagonism to having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 12:00 PM
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If mentally they are a man then they should be able to identify with one no problem. I was really referring to sex when I stated that rather than gender ... Typo? You also said "gender deals more with socialization [snip] sex deals strictly with biology." Somehow ,a trans-person's subjective assessment ought to be considered in a "strict biological" categorization. Shouldn't that be "I was really referring to gender when I stated that rather than sex..." nowadays one can undergo surgery to get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 02:29 AM
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Gender is a fluid concept I was once told that a person's gender and a person's sex is different. How would you distinguish gender and sex? so if a person is mentally a man but has a woman's body I don't see what the problem is if they want to identify as a man. Well you should see this as a problem since it contradicts your earlier statement Men have penises women have vaginas. Evidently, men have vagina and women have penises too. You know, basic shit. Slightly as in they use different parts o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 01:13 AM
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Men have penises women have vaginas. So what about the trans-person claim; says he's or she's a man or woman born in a man's or woman's body. Brain chemistry is slightly different. Slightly: as in essentially the same or slightly: as in enough that it would lead to behavioural differences. You know, basic shit. The devil's in the details.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 12:29 AM
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But when it comes to the most basic shit, men and women are different. What kind of basic shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 10:21 PM
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it just strikes me as odd that so much weight is put on partner count when she could easily just.....lie Its a question of trust and character above all else. Its precisely because its is easy for women to slut around and lie about it, that it becomes necessary to confront the issue; Showing restraint faced with plenty is virtuous by definition. Much like its easy for a man to violently assault a woman, she ascertain (to some degree) that he'll not bash her skull in should they engage in a perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 01:29 PM
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Starting off with the idea that men and women are and should act the same is the root cause of Blue pill misconceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 12:42 PM
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I can relate. Took me years to climb out of the pit. For the first time, in a very long time, I feel like I have the power to change things for the better. Without giving in. These fucking situations are horrible, at the very least though, we can connect. We are not alone.
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/15 02:44 AM
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I craved many exciting sexual experiences Meaning what exactly? Again i don't see how you couldn't have different sexual experiences with the same person. Specially so if you're this dominant & forth coming character you claim to be; '' hey baby lets do this or that''. Ill be frank and wager that even though you claim to be dominant & forthcoming in bed and with sex, you aren't. I know you are not because i've slept with women like you ''I'm totally an open-bi-sexual-into kinky stuff-sex craved-…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:21 AM
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I craved lots of sex and I couldn't deal with the reputation I was earning sleeping with (many) men. Enjoying sex doesn't mean you need to sleep around. I never understood this leap in logic. Out of curiosity, do you feel the need to sleep around with many women as well now that you are married? And why bother with gay marriage, or marriage at all for that matter, if a fair amount of Blue pill men have no issues with your debaucheries?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 11:53 PM
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From what I hear it was written by a gay man. Given that, its not as much a whine fest as it is a social commentary from someone who's not really impacted by the phenomenon if it exists. If it is reblogged or commented on thereafter i'd say its mostly due to the fact that it resonates with those that wouldn't articulate it otherwise for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:53 PM
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All I remember is "waking up" to him having sex with me. I doubt I fell asleep, but I "surfaced" or whatever. I don't remember starting anything sexual but I only remember his penis inside me and him asking me if he could put it in my butt and me shouting "NO!". I guess I was cognisant to remember that, huh? After that I must have passed out. I don't remember it ending. Its bullshit. You telling me that she passed out so bad that she couldn't remember anything until he wanted to go anal? Ain't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:43 AM
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lol, you could make the same argument for murder: they ain't hurting nobody... no more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 12:17 AM
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Atoms don't, I do. And just where does the ghost in the machine come into being? you might as well say tables don't exist because they're made of individual beams of wood, none of which are a table. If we agree that a collection of things generates a greater whole one could argue that things such as: Spirits, collective consciousness (To say nothing of consciousness it self), Culture, free will , the self, personal propriety, just like , emotions, tables, offences and everything else, are things…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:26 PM
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Actually its even more simpler than that; You are made of atoms (whether dead or alive) and atoms have neither emotions or experiences. See you can't have it both ways; You can't use science to discredit other people's beliefs while ignoring science when it comes down to yours (even if it would be secular beliefs).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:56 PM
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Perhaps i should have left in the part where i mocked your ''being offended'' as a simple misaligned aura... really you should feing shui your apartment a little, get that bad voodoo out of your system before you hit the drum circle! Nothing like letting go of one's self to truly be free and celebrate our unalienable natural rights ! Funny how science is a two edged sword 'innit?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:38 PM
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What ever ''process'' you speak of is nothing more than the simple motion; action/reaction, of atoms deprived of feelings or intent, undistinguishable from either living or dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 10:14 PM
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It's nonsense. They DEAD, foo. Its no more crazy than associating ''offence'' to any other collection of atoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 09:20 PM
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Ill add to this ''the first generation to die before their parents''. http://www.makemedicinebetter.org/2011/10/us-children-are-now-projected-to-die-before-their-parents/ http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/obese-children-will-die-younger-than-their-parents-report-1.664784 Can it be directly linked to feminism and women's suffrage? Probably not . However the lack of parent supervision due to the need of two earning wages, single mothers , a rise in divorce rate, a feminized education system, this …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:16 PM
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If RPers don't want to LTR sluts and only use them as plates, how do they find women to LTR and why LTR at all? This is more of a problem for women to figure out now. Also, as a follow up: are queer men privileged in the RP ideology/framework? I suppose. I mean, i don't think that "privileged" is ever used in the TRP lexicon unless its done ironically. That said , wasn't there a study that showed that gay men had more successful marriages than heterosexual, which in turn were more successful tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 12:06 AM
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I clearly state that a man living there to save money is fine. A neckbeard living there is not fine. How about if a neckbeard is living there to save money? See, a neckbeard is also a man regardless of whether or not he lives at his parents. I'd think its obvious why your argument is flawed: Your positive and negative assessment of a basement dweller is made at different level of abstraction. One is fine so long as you lust and rationalize for, the other isn't since he is portrayed as a monster …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 02:00 AM
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Its funny that the BP leaning people immediately linked "still living with parents" with poor hygiene and lack of physical exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 08:44 PM
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Appearance has nothing to do with the "unattractiveness" factor of living with one's parents after a certain age. Its considered unattractive to live with your parents even if you are a well groomed, fit & educated man. The same cannot be said of a women in a similar situation. To be honest, one of my friends used to be in this situation but managed to spin plates like crazy nonetheless. Its not a deal breaker, but its definitely a contributing factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 08:21 PM
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What I notice is that even men who aren't rich tell themself it makes a huge difference because they believe they can always get rich. Which is beside the point since its not made explicit by either side that sexual exchanges between gender is transactional at its core. I've also heard the "being nice will get me laid" thing. A guy once told me that if a man has a high IQ he can get "anyone." Nice guy syndrome? Again, Its beneficial to women ,and those they sleep with , to believe that they date…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:29 PM
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Clearly its not beneficial to believe what is convenient if you're not in a position to take advantage of said convenience. For instance it is beneficial for those in Hugh's position and women in general to believe what is convenient; They can continue to believe in their moral superiority while acting licentiously. Other men however are at a detriment, believing that being "warm, attentive , smart & caring" will get you laid like it did Hugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:00 PM
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Neither, it is pragmatic above anything else. If i had to choose however; Traditional. In addition to being pragmatic, the red pill is also realist and is concern with how things are rather than how things ought to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:25 PM
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Couldn't the same be said about everything else that turns women on? It's more about convenience than what it's really about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:11 PM
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Fuck morals. The basis of female behaviour and why TRP came into being.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:54 PM
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At this point in his life I doubt anyone is actually turned on by him, but it's a transaction. You'd think they'd actually say that though? Do you think they'd ever admit it, even to themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:48 PM
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Meh, the way i see it; If any of these were real problems, feminists wouldn't have been all up an arm about that "half-naked-girls-Hawaiian-shirt-scientist-guy" fiasco-gate-thing. Seems like you guys have enough pressing issues not to waste energy & political capital fighting over trivial matters like this, right? Feminism has managed to make its articulations just too damn impractical for me to give a rat's ass and more to the point i've gotten desensitized over the years and years and years of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 04:09 AM
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A women would still be as desirable with or without having: A career, social status or having achieved anything really. The same cannot be said of men. Given that only a limited number of high level education/career exist, these women "changing the world" are in effect stealing "our" thunder. It shouldn't matter who cures cancer or lands on Mars first. And believe me, men are lazy by default; If we'd have women's lust and admiration without having to do all that heavy lifting we'd be more than h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 09:52 PM
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Absolutely. I was trying to keep with the parameter of the topic. I think the "why" of this gender dynamic can be expanded a lot more. In the end its just the way things are. Johnny comberbach , or what ever his name is, wouldn't be as sexually appealing if he weren't in movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 02:40 PM
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I don't think men are as impressed with a woman's achievement, social status & career to develop sexual attraction , as a woman would be to a man's motivations. Not that women can't achieve anything, its just never done to impress the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 01:55 PM
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but I can't think of any situation in which I'd cheat on my husband lol, what if threw your thought experiment right back at you ; with the perfect opportunity I think most men women will cheat anyway. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 02:15 AM
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It's getting to the point where it's no longer relevant to the OP discussion. Your op highlights men as lacking in relative honor since a significant number of married men cheat. You continued ,asking; shouldn't there be some kind of married woman version of TRP? Thereafter dismissed such a group, RPW, as a bunch of self hating women; they actually operate under the assumption that women are more morally flawed. My point is that men cheat more , thereby increasing your linked to statistics, when…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 01:57 AM
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I guess I operate under the assumption that most men will cheat regardless of what they have at home. Studies seem to validate my beliefs as opposed to the belief that regular sex will keep a man from cheating. [/snip] My beliefs are that regular sex makes a man less likely to cheat, but that at the end of the day, if a man who is sexually satisfied gets a good cheating opportunity, there's a good chance he'd still take it. Certainly sounds that way to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 01:29 AM
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No. You just assume that because human nature isn't 100% predictable, the instance of a possibility of a given trait negates efforts manage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 01:20 AM
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I don't think anyone can totally prevent cheating, end of story. Nothing relating to human nature will ever be a sure thing. And your point of view is insane given that you can't even grasp the notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 01:08 AM
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Less likely, but it doesn't rule it out. What hell did i just say : No, they (RPW) operate under the assumption that a pleased men is less likely to cheat. I'm not sure why you'd quote them. didn't you just say; I guess I operate under the assumption that most men will cheat regardless of what they have at home. Studies seem to validate my beliefs as opposed to the belief that regular sex will keep a man from cheating. wouldn't those be the studies you linked to? wouldn't those link actually go …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 12:47 AM
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Those links are pathetic. From the article you submitted: An interesting study, published on 2005, has some answers to this question: Dissatisfaction or "general unhappiness" is NOT correlated with marriage infidelity. Sexual dissatisfaction IS. The higher your husband is satisfied sexually, the lesser he is likely to cheat on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 12:15 AM
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RPW doesn't operate this way, they actually operate under the assumption that women are more morally flawed than men and that it's in OUR nature, not men's, to cheat. No, they operate under the assumption that a pleased men is less likely to cheat. Keep his stomach full and balls empty kinda thing. You have to wonder why these men would do the proposing and put their financial neck on the line if they had any prior incentive to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 11:56 PM
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I can barely do it for my own, how the fuck would I know what's best for others? There's a thing to be said about tradition and established orders; they worked. We know that they worked ,to a significant degree , because that's how we came into being. Maybe things were oppressive back then or maybe they endured for a reason. But who knows now? Not you. Not me. Nobody it would appear. And here we are free at last, a society of individualists, confused and purposeless. No wonder men join TRP; At i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 01:01 AM
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Right now I see an over inflated sense of self importance that I would call delusional. Pretty funny for someone that believes that: Yes, women are also "going their own way". That percentage is larger than the tin foil group. Many people are opting out of marriage and kids. Sane people who don't think that feminism is the anti-Christ. Well duh, the patriarchy is the anti-Christ. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 12:22 AM
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Firstly ,On a general note: I find that every month or so , something pops up in the media about the plight of women. The recent street harassment video. That porn star vs War-machine conjugal violence thing. The Roger "The trigger" Elliott thing and a bunch of other rape stories, I'm sure , to which I've become desensitized. These stories push notions about the world women live in that are completely unrelated to facts on top of blurring issues;The street harassment viral video being used to pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 04:02 PM
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No standards, no awareness. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 12:33 AM
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what for? Well I guess that without a standard one doesn't require self control. No problem! So it's clear that it doesn't imply a lack of self-control. Perhaps if you described what lacking self control entice in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:54 PM
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why shouldn't I sleep with them? Dunno. You could try and have some standards. Why would it say something about my self-control and willingness to build an LTR and stuff? That's the whole point of a personal history. Based on what you did before i can predict what you are liable to do later. do you think most women are worried about that, though? Absolutely not. Thanks for pointing it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:57 PM
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Why? You can sleep with people while looking for a relationship. Looking for a relationship is hardly a willingness to build one. In fact it sounds like the polar opposite as if a LTR is just something that falls from the sky without any effort. Right off the bat most men will require exclusivity to commit. Sleeping around is kinda of problem then. There obviously needs to be some sort of negative consequence. How about others not wanting to commit to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 10:14 PM
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If you have a history of failed relationships, sure, but you usually don't get high partner counts from just LTRs, it doesn't really have much to do with promiscuity. Either. A series of failed relationship implies that you cannot, for whatever reason, follow things through. Sleeping around means you are incapable of or unwilling to build long term commitment. that something isn't a temptation if it's not a bad thing Too much of anything is a bad thing. Too much of anything that is readily avail…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:13 PM
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Why? I think a good indicator of self control is to enact some level of restraint when presented with temptation. Its tempting to jump ship at the first sign of trouble as oppose to try an work things out and go for the long run. If you have a history of doing this why even bother to entertaining the idea of a LTR with you? Do women think it's bad? Apparently not. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 12:19 AM
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That's exactly what i said before. Edit : No wait , it still doesn't resolve the issue. If sex is a priority to you and casual sex is your remaining option, its inevitable. What options do you have when sex is a priority if casual sex is your remaining option?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 09:57 PM
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It's not fatalism. Casual sex is an active choice It is fatalistic if its depicted the way you did earlier: "if you can't find one at the moment and you still wanna bang, casual sex is your remaining option" It may screen out those people who aren't down with casual sex (yourself and most of TRP included). I think the wast majority of TRP, myself included, support casual sex. Definitely not as means to an LTR though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 09:44 PM
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if you can't find one (LTR) at the moment and you still wanna bang, casual sex is your remaining option. I'm not a huge fan of fatalism. Its a matter of which want is more important to you. The want to fuck or the want for a LTR. Those who want a LTR are actively looking for one. I'd say its less of a question of chance from them, rather its an issue of sacrifices and determination, perseverance. You aren't looking for one, you're working on one. Those that wanna bang have this crapshoot mentali…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 04:14 AM
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Right. I guess it depends on how you regard sexually satisfying vs sexually enjoying. It doesn't seem consistent to implies that one could associate a "high count" of sexual partners to an enjoyment of sex while enumerating the conditions needed to find a partner that is remotely compatible in order to find sex satisfying. In fact on could argue that if oh so many stars are needed to be aligned in order to find sex satisfying or enjoyable, someone with a high count hasn't ever really found sex e…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 02:51 AM
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there's a difference between enjoying sex and enjoying sex with everyone. Enjoying sex doesn't necessitate multiple partners unless you enjoy sex with multiple partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 02:16 AM
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I had a course where the teacher threw a plush animal to select participants in class exercises . It added randomness , i suppose, to the flow of things. After a few days one of the girls began to show playful signs of affection to this animal every time it was thrown to her: Hugging it, petting it, acting sad when departed from it. She wasn't really serious about it, just being cheerful and lively. Anyway, at the end of one particular exercise one of the guys threw the plush at her and not the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 01:46 AM
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What's your theory? It boils down to the "scope" given to violence. Listening to the radio the other day, coming back from work, and they had this panel of feminist discussing the "harassment" video thing that's been in the news. Well they did the leap in argument that : Catcalling is harassment, it is sexual in tone - catcalling is sexual harassment - sexual harassment is aggressive - catcalling is sexual aggression, Sexual aggression is sexual violence: Therefore catcalling is violence against…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 05:31 PM
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I'd say that men have 2 walls; One later in life where it can be remedied with access to material and/or social wealth. One earlier in life where we need to loose our virginity before 20. However ,the idea of the female wall isn't directed at women its directed at men. It's a narrative that reminds us that you shouldn't commit with women in their youth because they're likelier to jump ships and you shouldn't settle for women past their prime because they're damaged goods. Its a paradox, i know, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 09:38 PM
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But, pray tell, how common is common feel good advise? Dunno. I can't really put a "metric" on how common it is if that's what you want. Its certainly common enough to crop up in this forum now and again, evidently those that responded here had some dealing with something similar. Are you referring to the kind of popular media, like msn.com that nobody in his right should ever take seriously? Or what? Parents? To a degree. I got curious about the Blue pill interpretation of "Doesn't matter what …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 11:25 PM
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Is "Doesn't matter what they say" only a ment to deflect anxiety? Wouldn't it be fair to say that you might be anxious because you're going against established social norms and that being a social creature it's imperative to take what others say/think into account when conducting yourself in public. In short by trying to deflect anxiety you're actually shooting yourself in the foot and making it worst?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 12:01 AM
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The only reason that a plate spinner wouldn’t want to be in a relationship would be if it had no benefit for them. They just get bored. The few certifiable spinners i know are probably in the top percentile of men that most women would want to fuck. They are used to easy game and have never been reprehended for sleeping around. Worst still is that they have almost been incentivized to do so; Being a men-slut only adds to the attractiveness of these men it would appear. Those of you that have SOs…
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/14 08:02 PM
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Dunno , seems like "equal rights for women" is what's touted by feminism usually. If its not that, then what is it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 11:03 PM
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Out of interest, how can one be a Red Pill Feminist? Ill take a stab at this and argue if one considers women equal to men under the law, then one can be considered a feminist and red pill even though he might also uphold the notion that both men and women are significantly different socially (for the lack of a better term). The problem with modern day feminism is that it preaches the idea that your freedoms (as a men) ends where my feelings (as a women) begins. As for your Christian friend, im …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 09:30 PM
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That's actually a very good point. Mainstream music , pop and hiphop, is an odd place where Bluepill & Redpill interpretations overlay each other. On one hand the Blue pill will praise the sexually liberated women depicted in the lyrics. And on the other side, TRP will up your game so you'll take full advantage. Its a win/win.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 11:18 PM
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That by going after the building blocks of success(even when they don't have those traits themselves), instead of directly going after the fruits of a man's success, would be more beneficial and less risky? I'm not sure the "fruits of a man's success" is entirely out of the equation here. I think the context of success is important to take into account: From personal experiences, I've seen very successful (socially) men in late teens early twenties discarded after their usefulness depreciated. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 07:51 PM
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It explains on some level why TRP works; Women have already decide that you only want sex. Treating women in such a manner is seen as more honest and assertive. Moreover, anything done to established an emotional/intellectual connection is perceived (caricatured) as weak and scorn-worthy. This goes without factoring in the "privileged-white-hetero-cis-gender-overlord-oppressor" archetype that's have been drilled into their heads. Even if you were in a position to connect with a woman on any leve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/14 07:04 AM
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he just thinks I'm going to fuck him over if I realize he's as insecure as everyone else. Guide to the Redpill , chapter 1 - Lift, talk about insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 06:47 PM
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Worse. ;) [/snip] My experience says that what is more likely about getting helped is a three hour conversation about his insecurities he feels like he can't have with anyone else. Must be refreshing to meet red pill men .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 05:54 PM
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I know girls who dumped guys that acted exactly how TRP teaches specifically because they're assholes. Point is that they actually dated those assholes to begin with, haven't they. Overlooking that awkward nerd bro. Gender dynamic is such that men will do the approching and women the choosing. Its a safe bet to assume that women would choose the non-awkward over the awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 06:25 AM
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My point is that a geeky, awkward type of person who'd have bad luck IRL could find a girl online a lot easier. The same could be said about those who have an easier time. in fact not only would they have a bigger pool of people to connect with but It would actually be a place where they'd meet that awkward nerdy girl stereotype. Effectively overlapping on otherwise equalizing circumstance. Which is what , I believe , he was pointing to. I'd doubt either point of views could be substantiated by …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 02:03 AM
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Is it so far fetched to draw a paralelle between the acting members of online dating and discussion forums? If online dating, or even gaming for that matter ,used to be limited to awkward nerds but managed a 180 degree in its user base , why would cling to the notion that the same couldnt apply here
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 10:43 PM
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I think that "common sense advise" becomes redpill truth when it boils down to details. Take for example, Confidence or assertiveness; Blues and Reds will point to this as a corner stone of attractiveness. The general common sense advise stops, as far as i can tell, to just that: " be confident & be assertive ". The redpill will expand this into the how's/when's/where's with frame & shit tests , and this is important. Since we're on the subject : I always considered myself as a confident & asser…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 05:59 AM
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There are multiple ways to be attractive. It's still entirely open-ended. This goes without saying, literally. TRP is a base, generalisation , a point to start from and to which you add your own. If we let ourselves drown in pedantries nothing would ever be accomplish or discussed. The rigid , and wrong, view point is held by those who'd object to categorizations under the guise that its rendered unusable if its descriptive powers aren't absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 05:08 AM
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Part of "best" is "most attractive". So; "be the most attractive version of yourself that you could possibly be". fan-fucking-tastic, now then we'll have to come up with what is generally attractive to others , in this case the opposite gender, because that's who we are interested in being attractive to, lest we fancy ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 04:21 AM
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Men: Do you have any non-romantic female friends that you feel truly care about you? The issue with female friends is that they're actually more detrimental than beneficial to a man as a sexual strategy. Any kind of zoning will be perceived by other women as having failed the vetting process, it lowers your value as a man ; "She wont sleep with him ,therefore something must be wrong with him, ergo why bother?" Worst still , she's likely to exert efforts to keep you there - in the zone, since you…
/r/RedPillWomen13/10/14 11:17 PM
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Someone high on the alpha scale will most likely be attractive to a lot of women. Choosing to demonstrate your value without resorting to sex doesn't guarantee that others wont. Additionally, alpha traits demand considerable effort in upkeep : work , training , social positioning. It might actually be too burdensome to build up a rapport like this. If you go down in the calibre of man you're going for, chances are you won't feel the need to prove yourself in any way whatsoever. In fact you think…
/r/RedPillWomen12/10/14 11:37 PM
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By default people will follow the path of least resistance. Stacking points might be harder than what you might think.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/14 10:39 PM
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it's "beta" to wait longer than X dates, that you're entering her frame, etc. I don't want to feel like i'm just waiting around. That's not to say that i automatically mind postponing sex so long as we're building a rapport and its entertaining/fun in some other way. Also, there's a chance of getting zoned if the relationship becomes too casual and most men would rather move on. That's the real issue with giving into a women's frame. For a women seeking to attract an alpha male, how could she go…
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/14 03:07 PM
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There's no winning, [snip] you're a lying bitch, [snip] you're a bitch. The only way to win is to have sex with every guy who approaches you…then you're a slut and get the relevant hate. The point here isn't to win but live , i would hope, according to some guiding principle. A liar , a bitch ; Choose one. Surely one is better than the other, either one is better than to fatalistically slutting it up. Or hell, why not do the approaching yourselves , take matters in your own hands like sh1v said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/14 07:01 PM
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you might realize that normal healthy people, are not self centered, disloyal, and don't have fear based cold formulaic transactional relationships. Just what the hell is normal & healthy in this day and age? The wife & kid , white picked fence ; The last 30 years (and counting) were an exercise in dismantling what normal is. Normal is racist , oppressive , sexist and boring. Why would anyone want to be normal? Normal is the new freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 09:32 PM
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TBP isn't concerned that TRP works, its concerned that the current state of affairs doesn't. And we know that it doesn't work , or at least that it is not as advertised, given the number of men opting out or joining alternative ways of going about Courtship/STR/LTR. And that's where fear can come from; If there's no socially sanctioned and unifying code of conduct, you can't predict ,within an acceptable level of certainty ,how someone else (or a broad segment of the population) will react or be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 03:57 AM
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And what if it only worked on like 6% of the female population, is this cause for alarm? Reproductively RP men would still be failures. And how many disillusioned men are on the market in this little thought experiment of yours? Regardless of how many women it works on, every other women wishing to date someone will have to deal with, seemingly ,maladjusted and or undatable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 03:34 AM
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The wage gap is largely a myth, if anything it's men that are falling behind As this trend continues, i wonder if hypergamy wouldn't be forced to move to a wealth comparison between possible suitors as opposed to comparing it to her own. In the sense that, even if her wealth/education is greater than his, so long as he remains wealthier than other men, he is "attractive". From what i've seen recently, a lot of women are moving to value other traits than money or education and going after , what …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 07:46 PM
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True. Then you'll stick around and clown about all you want then get upset we don't take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:19 PM
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And so long as this anti-belief is limited to a joke we'll have to assume that's all you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:17 PM
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Its fine that your believe that TRP is wrong and worthy of ridicule. However until TBP provide a serious alternative to the problems TRP is trying to solve then TBP will only be that: A joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:15 PM
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The bluepill is the self described Caricature & satire of The redpill. So you'll have to forgive us for taking you guys as the joke you made yourself up to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:03 PM
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Manipulation & lies are well tailored to modern day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 02:54 AM
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the idea that they are going to do it to you so you are going to do it back? Rather, its expected of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 02:50 AM
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But isn't TRP "implementing something" when you take the tactics learned there out into the real world? To the degree that its what women want, then yes. And this only drives the point even more; Nobody wants to be a slave, it needs to be forced upon. Nobody is forcing women to date Redpill men. When you manipulate women with things like dread game, etc.? Its just par for the course, women manipulate and lie just as much
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 02:05 AM
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the theoretical framework used to justify the implementation of red pill and that used to justify the implementation of slavery are similar. TRP isn't really ''implementing'' anything. That was my point. The conclusion used to justify slavery were imposed on a segment of the population. TRP is trying to model the behaviour from selected individuals (namely -a majority of women-). Whatever ''evolutionary frame work'' used seems irrelevant to me, they're the complete opposite in terms of process. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 01:41 AM
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Any similarity that may exists ends with the fact that women aren't slaves , save perhaps to their own desires. A women isn't forced to behave in a way that supports the (redpill) theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 01:25 AM
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but i would like to know why you think it's more preferable to be an average female? I don't. Its stupid to think this way. i strongly believe she's not a good evidence for proving that female privilege exists. I think her premise, wasn't so much about proving female privilege as it was to explore male privilege, which she found lacking. Incidentally, you're more than welcome to "man up" as it were.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 03:26 AM
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extended veresion of.. what? Of what you read on this forum or TRP. You may have the impression that TRP men ,or men in general , only rage and hate women all day but for the most part its the opposite and were all too busy with [other] stuff. Its only when its needed, or perhaps if someone is bored, that we'll delve into things of the sort. what is different about trp (for me at least) is how convinced these guys are of the inherent inferiority/evilness of women? If you worshipped pussy all you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 03:17 AM
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it is still a lot more preferable to be male than female. this might be of some interest
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 03:01 AM
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In what context? If its a private conversation between guys, almost certainly. Though it wouldn't be an extended version of it. And the tone wouldn't be that of a raging arsehole like you've pictured in your head. Probably just as much curse words however, with some light-hearted venting , a couple jokes and a lesson learn is how i'd portray "Real world" TRP/men talks. If i'm hitting on you or something like that, ill be keeping my mouth shut about all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 02:50 AM
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It is not so much hatred as it is raw.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 02:39 AM
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I wouldn't say that it validates TRP however it leans in that direction. In any case I'd be hard pressed to see Bp being comfortable with any of this (haven't finished the last part though).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/14 11:20 AM
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I'm sure that adding concrete numbers to what defines experienced and inexperienced would change the opinion of those that answered. a great deal of women saying that an overly sexually experienced male is a turn off. Don't you think that the men that answered positively to sexually experienced women wouldn't be just as turned off if their "experience" reached a critical point? Shouldn't be "inexperience" also be defined in such a manner?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/14 01:37 PM
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Women i know that are more educated and/or make more money tend to engage with men for entrainment, drama and excitement, more so than other women since they can't provide this for themselves. They are too busy working or studying to plan the weekend, look up the latest shows, parties or find something cool to do and brag about it on social media. I wouldn't say TRP is specifically geared toward this kind of exchange though its definitely not out of its scope. And as this trend continues , ill p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 03:12 PM
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So long as the theory works/provides the desired results, how the rest of the world sees us is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 11:36 PM
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I remember reading an article on the abstinence movement in the south and how participants behaved. Long story short, a significant number of guys admitted to pre-marital sex while very few girls did. They changed the survey/questionnaire and found that just as many girls admitted to sexual activities if it was worded to specific acts ; Did you give oral , dry-humping, hand-jobs , tit-jobs et-cetera. That's how it starts; "This one doesn't count , because X/Y/Z. And this one doesn't count either…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 01:23 AM
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I never said men only do great things in exchange for sex, i said sex is a great motivator. Even if it is unconscious. Actually i think that "a chance at procreation is a great motivator" would be a better way to put it. Plus handsome bad boy mathematicians exist (I'm dating one). You go girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 06:03 PM
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So if natural selection works in a certain way ie the 20/80 rule and alpha fux/beta bux, that method must be the most beneficial to the species. I don't think that most technological advancement were achieved by what would, typically, be called "alphas" (by today's standards). I mean , i doubt that anyone would call Pasteur, Maxwell , Boltzmann , Fleming , Heisenberg , Feynman -and all the rest- alphas, though they certainly wouldn't be blue pill by any stretch of the imagination either. Its not…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 02:05 PM
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Guess that back in the days "approaching less" still meant you needed a lot of human interaction in order to survive. Now , thanks to modern technology, its possible to survive cutting out all physical contacts. Its a fairly recent thing. also arranged marriage must've helped a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 12:07 AM
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Gender and sexual organs are pretty different, but you said innate differences between men and women No, i said unique differences between gender need to be substantiated for the claim to be valid. Otherwise its just a bare assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 06:05 AM
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I think our interactions these days are on a whole pretty positive. Great, enjoy then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 11:20 PM
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Unless it is a very large excess of validation I doubt someone would suddenly become an egomaniac. Narcissism/BPD , not egomania. There is a difference when it comes to body standards that are literally manufactured a la Hasbro. Go to a gym sometimes. Tell me guys there aren't trying to look like action figures. I have plenty of friends who play video games and are also social functional people. So in your opinion is there any issues regarding interactions between genders (The topic), or is ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 10:53 PM
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Validation by itself doesn't turn most people into narcissists. Excess validation does. It's much easier to complain about the standards than change to meet those standards. Tell that to bluepill when they get all up in arms about "fat shaming" and the "Barbie doll" complexions. If a person enjoys the time they spend doing a particular activity, how can it be considered wasted? The topic is "the biggest issues regarding interaction between gender". A lot of guys spend all there free time gaming …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 07:59 PM
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Why is validation a bad thing? People should feel validated and good about themselves. Validation is only good when its proportional to what's being accomplished. Taking a selfie and feeling proud of yourself and have everyone cheer you on is terrible, you'll feel entitle to all the praises for the most trivial thing. It atrophies character. Social media gives both genders a greater pool of sexual partners. Im not getting into how its easier for women to get sex than men. Suffice to say that hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 07:18 PM
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For women the issue is/are social media and addiction to constant validation. Its fosters an undeserved bloated sense of importance and increases hypergamy. It used to be that you'd have to deal with a hand full of potential partners, friends and acquaintance, then prove yourself with things other than your looks. Now its like a constant barrage of praise and worship for the most trivial of selfies with easy access to a greater pool of sexual partners. Its not even necessary for women to try and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 01:18 PM
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Or did you want general differences? At this point anything will do. If you reduce gender to sexual organ its fine by me. I've already brought up a few points Pfff , like what ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 06:11 AM
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And, if men and women are so different, why do these unique traits have to be contrived? Because its not enough to say that men and women are different , you have to establish how they are different , you have to substantiate your claims. If we agree that men and women are different (and i hope to god that we do) then we have to recognize those difference. What are they? List a few. I took a course in masculinity at a small college and it mostly examined how masculinity gets defined and redefine…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 08:27 PM
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I think there is a difference in how men and women typically communicate. I'd say men normally use words to express desires and women to express emotions. In the former its beneficial to use words to convey meaning to attain certain goals , while in the latter words can be emotionally charged and may not reflect the definition. We've all seen the meme ; When she says "nothing is wrong" it means something is wrong. When she says "do what you wan't" it means don't do what you want. When she says "…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 04:53 PM
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No, but groups can be capable of the same things and individuals can be unique. That doesn't change the fact that this uniqueness needs to be substantiated and internalized to form an identity and groups needs distinctions between themselves in order to even have group[s]. Why in this particular way, in opposition to women, though? We'll have , first, to agree that -a men isn't a women- or -a women isn't a men-. Otherwise there is actually no point in continuing this. Imagine two circles overlap…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 03:11 PM
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Eh. Your perspective is too "gamey" for me. Im saying that , for young men lacking confidence, TRP becomes a resource to get into the groove of things. I'm not saying it is limited to that. Of course the goal is actual confidence, but you need to get the ball rolling is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 01:46 PM
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You can't make sense of your individuality unless you place it in a social context. This necessitate That they'll be others like you and others not like you or others that will evaluate you within the social context. If you want to be an accomplished painter , for instance, you have to abide with societies criteria of what an accomplished painter is, right? A painter isn't a carpenter , isn't a sculptor, isn't a dramatist. Looking at it in a more individualistic sense, a painter can be whatever …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 10:12 PM
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Men can do everything women can and vice versa. Why does anyone need a special gender thing? Because its critical for people to identify with some groups and not others in order to from a sense of identity. You can't identify ,fully , with everyone all the time you'd go mad. You break it down to ingroup (what you are) and outgroup (every one else) and champion certain ideals; Some people identify with there country for instance, and others their gender. If men are predisposed to value actions as…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 09:36 PM
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Its a desperate attempt to find something unique to men. My theory is that manhood is largely symbolic and ties him to the society that recognizes him as a man. Its a primitive reflex that endured given its beneficial characteristic to the tribe. Its a trial by fire or a special duty reserved for men; Work, political life, military service or simply a tattoo or branding. Why isn't the same for women? Well because the survival of the group is determined by how well it can replenish its members. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 08:35 PM
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Its weird since , for once, its not as bad as say ; Women are incapable of love Or women are like children. In fact the linked post is almost all about what men are, as opposed to a belittling post on women. I see it as a desperate attempt to find something unique to men. Something that wont be appropriated women. For whatever reason, some people need to identify with their gender and be proud of it. Just like anyone being proud of their country or corporation. For women i'd say this form of gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 08:15 PM
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I'm must be mad then , since i take great pride in human intelligence & culture. As far as I'm concerned its one of the defining trait of our species. Anything that encourage its growth ought to be cherished and an impediment ought to be lamented. I guess its why i hate pop culture with a passion, seems to me like a step backward. Degeneration on boob tube and people praising it. Your comment comes with no surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 07:47 PM
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See that's the thing about personal identity, its somewhere between the group and the individual. People want to be proud; Proud of themselves and who they identify with, family , religion , culture , who they work for et cetera . And its important to have pride in your ingroup association as a means to undertake & justify massive social projects. It gives direction and unifies efforts under one banner. And as far as gender-conscious men are concerned ,there hasn't been a lot of praise as of lat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 07:44 PM
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Okay, if not for those reasons , can you find any for which men should be proud of?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 11:40 AM
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Already that makes more sense than confidence not being based on anything; If there's a why then surely it ought to be based on something. If i could be blunt, when we talk about relationships, i think a woman's confidence is place in her body and its ability to attract attention, self confidence. When she's talking about confidence in men its a different type of confidence, it needs to substantiated with a why, like you said. Perhaps you could give examples of acceptable whys
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 09:33 PM
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I mean its odd that confidence isn't based on anything real yet is somehow desirable. Kinda like if men considered women more attractive if they had the appropriate Chi
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 08:58 PM
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They seem to lack courage. The two go hand in hand. I'd say courage is acting on something you know the odds aren't in your favour. I don't see courage being relevant to men-women relations. [confidence] is not based on anything real. Then its pretty odd to find confidence high up on the lists of what women find desirable in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 08:33 PM
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Right, but when a woman says they she likes confident men, she cannot assess a man's -innate belief in one self that doesn't need an outsider's validation to be proven- since it is her as an outsider determining whether she finds a men confident or not. You can't judged a men's confidence by looking at him. He needs to interact , and specifically in this context he needs to interact with women for us to be able to assess his confidence. So whatever confidence is to you , it would appear that its…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 08:10 PM
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Seems to me like a blue pill trait to me of all things. They build themselves in their minds a political correctness wasteland where any direction taken runs the risk of setting of a -unique & special little snow flake- landmine just waiting to be offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 01:25 PM
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FFS, everyone knows that things depends on how you define them and how you look at them. The question here, is exactly that; How do you define confidence, how does it fit in the scheme of things. Go ahead , post your version. Thats the interesting stuff. Not what everyone is fully aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 04:01 AM
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It completely depends on how you define success [snip] It just depends on how you look at things. I'll say this, neither is better or worse, they are just different. Its almost ironic that someone would be so scared shitless to communicate an opinion of their own that they'd post the most middle of the road statement ever in a thread about confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 03:52 AM
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"man is by nature a political animal" -Aristotle, Politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/14 07:05 PM
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does this mean he is naturally RP? I would distinguish between 2 types of natural; the social & physical. The social natural might have climbed the social ladder at an early age and managed to ride the pre-vetted wave until now; If A,B & C fucked him, then he must be fuck worthy. Therefore i will sleep with him as well. To an extreme, he might be the complete opposite of TRP but his reputation compensate enough to negate certain behaviours. I don't think they'd self identify with TRP, though the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/14 05:52 PM
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You're never a -creep- or -that guy- until its too late. Fear is the issue long before being called either. Regardless , its beside the point. I thought i would be met half way and i wasn't. the fear of being a creep or that guy kept me from asserting , fully, my desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 01:58 AM
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I was, though perhaps not forcefully enough. Seeing how everything i would do would make me "a creep" or "that guy" ,i probably weren't asserting my intentions with enough vigor. Moreover I was taught that women were just like men ,even on this board you see Bluepill and purple pill women say that they aren't shy of going for the guys they want. I figured asking them out to a movie or to get some ice cream was clear enough, for example. But its not 50/50. its the man's job to carry the relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 12:19 AM
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In short, i was attentive to one specific girl. I would get to know her first, because i didn't want to be objectifying her. I wouldn't be pushy physically cause i didn't want to be "that guy" ,and forget about making a move if drugs or alcohol were involved. And i figured I'd get an obvious sign of interest because i was told that women are just like men; forthcoming if they're interested. I never had trouble approaching women, but as you can tell from the above i got friendzoned more times tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 11:51 PM
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The idea, i think, is making it your own. Things are discussed in broad, general terms but its understood that its going to vary in details at the personal level. Its just not necessary to go about it every time. Sort of how you can make general statement about what might constitute a punk. And we can say X/Y/Z is punk. Now you can get all offended cause you're a punk but you listen to classical music and not X. Well , who gives a shit. If you were so adamant about your "punkness" we wouldn't ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 12:17 AM
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Ooooh burn! i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 09:28 PM
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Its certainly something i think men ought to be doing more (Love conditionally that is).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 09:10 PM
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"I feel affection for him but the spark/chemistry just isn't there enough for a sexual/romantic relationship" If it were the case that you simply say " The chemistry isnt there any more". Its phrase deliberately but project an immaculate image ; I still feel for him (even though i don't) so don't judge me for all the crap i probably did to get this relationship to a breaking point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 09:08 PM
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The thing that symbolize this the most for me is... I was at a get together with some friends and i overheard this girl say "I love him , but I'm not in love with him", blah blah blah were not together. The context of the brake up is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. They could have broken up for X/Y/Z , its the "i love him, but I'm not in love with him" that reeks of bullshit. I've never heard a guy friend say anything remotely close to that. Really, what the fuck does that mean anyway? I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 08:29 PM
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BP literally just says I don't agree with RP in enough aspects to where I disagree with RP as a whole. Is this to say that , if the stars were to align , we might just have a morsel of shared understanding. For instance that males and females have some psychological differences. Even though we'd disagree on the totality. See this is much better and much more different than : Not being redpill. Obviously. Reactionaries are just counter productive if not damned stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 07:51 PM
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Comfort is just an easier word. Aside from comfort (inhabiting a women's body) there are no other defining psychological traits that are particular to you as a women? If we go with the idea that brains have structures that's identifiable as either male or female independently of the rest of the body, then we could ask if those structures don't predispose men & women to act & react in different ways. I mean so far its a tautology: " I define my self as a woman , since I have a woman's brain in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 10:15 AM
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Nah, since in my answer I included the fact that I feel comfortable in my female body. You did say that you'd side with the brain over the body and suggest the existence of brains specific to either gender; some people are born with a brain that is the opposite of their body. There is , at the very least, a male and female body and ,by association , a male and female brain. Presumably these differences in brain structures and hormones would affect behaviour and the psychology beyond "comfort". I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 12:58 AM
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No. There is also a very psychological component to gender specifically. Would you say that your earlier answer is misleading since, in addition to a female body, there is a psychological element to the female identity. I tend to side with the brain because the body doesn't give a crap. Isn't the brain part of the body? Not being redpill. Since the red pill's mission statement is self improvement with an significant emphasis on the formulation of sexual strategies. would you say that the blue pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/14 10:22 PM
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The fact that I was born in a female body and feel comfortable with said body. Are sexual organs the only differentiating factor , in your view, between men and women? In your opinion ,Is comfort (as a specific gender) a matter of biology, social interactions or does it emerge out of ones feeling of either being male or female independently of the body one grew up with? it's also fun to show off my knowledge of the field as it's what I'm specializing in. What field is this specifically ? Biology…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/14 09:55 PM
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What defines you as a women? What pushes you to debate here: Is it goal oriented, exploratory , curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/14 09:32 PM
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Aren't you trying to "have your cake and eat it too" by being Purple pill; I'm a strong, confident & independent woman that wants her man to take charge. A question about both your beliefs and food. Fancy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 07:46 PM
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Well before sexbots we'll have to deal with VR porn. And the ease of access to sexual gratification will , most likely , completely change courtship (if any) and reproduction. Add a dash of genetic engineering, a pinch of A.I. and you got yourself a future out of the twilight zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 10:03 AM
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I think every one would agree that sex sells; its interesting to see what angle is used when advertisement is geared towards either gender specifically. Symbolism aside ,it seems like women centred sexual advertisements places her in the midst of indulgence. She is passive and self adsorbed save for the few instances where she might be dancing or perhaps walking about in heels and glamour. Sex seems to flow around her where she holds no external control. For men the connotation of sex is externa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/14 05:05 PM
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I think a good question to ask is what would you personally put in front of sex? I agree, however this type of open question doesn't lend it self well to surveys and statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/14 06:27 PM
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It would vary based on how the survey is framed; Im sure ''would you date a nice guy'' would yield different results than ''Are you attracted to nice guys''. Regardless, you asked for an alternative explanation. So there it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 04:45 PM
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Alternatively you could say that its just the only outcome possible from the narrative women build for themselves; There are no nice guys, only wolfs in sheep's clothings. With this in mind ,Bad boys are perceived as being more genuine or authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 04:03 PM
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I enjoy X, X is easy to do, therefore I'm going to do X a lot. Seems to me like you're trying to explain why you do something. However why you do something is different from if you should be doing it to begin with. -I enjoy drugs , drugs are easy to do, therefore I'm going to drugs a lot.- Like i said before, self-control/self-discipline is good (and necessary) ,in my opinion , to human beings. The entire premise that something easy (and orgasmic at that) is something that ought to be done, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 10:17 PM
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The words you're using are quite far off from what was said before or how the OP was originally framed; You'll recall that we're trying to differentiate , if at all possible, between ''Exploring one's sexuality'' for women and ''Spinning plates'' for Red pill men, and how one is frown upon and the other praised. You've already conceded that a women will have an easier time finding sexual partners; it seems to me foolish to praise thing that require the least amount of skill. Replacing good by sk…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 10:16 PM
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what (other than social/interpersonal judgement) makes that a bad choice? Nothing. Good and bad things are entirely immaterial human construct, it doesn't exists at a Scientific (With a capital ''S'') level; You'll never smash 2 atoms together and find ''morality''. If you take out the social and interpersonal consideration out of an ethical dilemma, you're left with neither good or bad. something being easy doesn't make it inherently bad; I enjoy and am good at biking, so I do it often. The iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 02:19 AM
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I think the issue now is that the individual is free to choose amongst a myriad of -societies- to fit whatever they fancy. This however, doesn't translate locally. I see it as forming a sort of cultural feedback loop that's a detriment to a functional identity; Each individual that forms a community belongs to vastly different societies, each with potentially different rules of conducts/morals/lexicon. Its impossible for the individual to assess all the possible interactions that may come into b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/14 07:19 PM
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well... yeah, exactly. One's just bickering the other got more substance to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 05:41 AM
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Its how you compete that's the problem: if you and I would compete* over some girl , we'll try to "one up" each other, as oppose to spending our time trying to snipe at each other's character (like what we'd generally expect from women). *Im using -compete- here to stay within the context of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 05:00 AM
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How would it be irrational; People differ on opinions all the time. I'd say its blatantly obvious that you can have values different from mine, and as such our judgements will never be exactly the same. And try as i may, you're still the last arbiter of your person. That said, if i think you're a slut and my friends think you're a slut, and my friends's friends think you're a slut. You'll have to deal with people treating you like a slut. And that's just the price of living in a community. If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/14 03:57 PM
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Its nothing to feel , personally, ashamed about. But I'll judge you however i see fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/14 12:29 AM
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Its nothing to be proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 10:44 PM
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How is this different from a man who wants to have lots of casual sex while young then find a "good mother type" when he wants a family? Because, while a man may want a lot of casual sex, he's most likely not going to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 02:44 AM
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Go ahead , shame male sluts. What's stopping you? If you want it justified , do it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 09:37 PM
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This isn't very helpful. :/ What about the rest? Seems straight forward to me; There's nothing commendable in simply being available. Everything to be praised in figuring out people; especially so in a sexual context. And ''exploring your sexuality'' as been around for a long time. Longer than TRP at least. Regardless, its circular , doesn't mean much; Exploring my sexuality means that whatever i do sexually pertains to exploring my sexually, it cant be objectively assessed. Its just an excuse f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 09:31 PM
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For one thing its harder to -spin plates- as a men than it is to -explore your sexuality- as a women ; If its a euphemism for sleeping around. Secondly, it sounds disingenuous; Its not like "Exploring one's sexuality" necessitate an excess in sexual partners. And like others said, it just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 03:38 AM
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I guess i was mainly concerned with the "start a relationship with them" part of the question. Assuming you'll be spending a lot of time together, its far less energy draining to use self-deception than to keep tracks off all the lies you might say.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/14 03:46 AM
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I think people rarely ever mislead intentionally others. If anything they lie to themselves ,again not deliberately , simply because the realisation that they are ,for all intent and purpose , a degenerate/licentious person undeserving of respect is too painful to bear. Its also a lot easier to lie to ones self , since you can twist words & facts at leisure to uphold the a priori assumption that you're worthy of the benefits provided by society. I cannot imagine a scenario where it would be nece…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/14 09:59 PM
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You could say the same thing about someone with a drug habit. Even if he says he's happy and in control , and even if its the case at the moment,,you know its a path that leads to nothingness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/14 02:21 PM
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To what end, if you don't mind my asking. I mean ,do you discuss oppression and privilege (Im assuming "Gender" oppression & privilege) as a man to support the idea that something like that would exists, only to revert to gender queerness to reap the benefice. Or is it the reverse, where you'd tackle oppression & privilege as a man to refute such notions. Which really wouldn't make much sense, given that a genderqueer person disproving those idea would have much more impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 07:30 PM
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Precisely. That's why they have a parade in my honour every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 03:51 AM
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They're probably trying to avoid the scorn of being a hetero-sexual male (the source of all evil as we all know) and gain female acceptance. Nobody wants to be the bad guy, or very few people do; '' Me, a hetero male ?! No no no Im a quasi-androgenous-proto-bicurious-gender-polymorphic-sapien-sexual!'' Also i wouldn't be surprise if it were use as a defense mechanism; '' I would have totally gotten that job if it weren't for me being oppress because I'm X/Y/Z. Its also why they are so many self …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 02:49 AM
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I dont think TRP has any official standing on this. To me it sounds hollow. As if throwing a fuck-ton of vacuous lables would somehow atone for a glaring lack of content. ''Yeah , I'm a poly-amourous-pan-trans-bivalent-genderqueer-asexual-nymphomaniac'' Its like: Fuck off, you're just boring and predictable. All these bells and whistle are just annoying, you're not special or unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 09:38 PM
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Unsmurfme said It's that they (TRP) devalue it's (Sex) importance for women (among other things). Women are a puzzle to be figured out, not an equal to share your life with. And What we disagree on is valuing your partner and valuing sex for your partner. Now i pointed out that these statements overlap at a point where a Blue pill proponent's sexual partner count and behaviour would overshadow the proposed value that could exist. Certainly in terms of scarcity, the value given by double or tripl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 11:46 PM
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Well , yeah, That's my point. Like i said TRP, in that sense, is far more honest. Its not like TRP is pushing men to pretend like the women they're seeing are anything more valuable than the sexual gratification they can get out of it. TBP isnt shy about fucking around but would prefer to believe they have a moral authority on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 10:17 PM
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Isn't there a blue pill breaking point then? I mean, just how much did you value your ex partners if they number up to double digits. You also have to factor in the ONS , FWB and all other types of arrangements pushed/supported by blue pill debaters here. The way I see it, you could convince yourself that you valued every partner that you had without acting as such. TRP, in that sense, is far more honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 12:00 PM
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I consider my self a Mgtow , however I think Gender politics & Sexuality is core to our survival, culturally or as a species. For the time being I can't , realistically ,do more than debate or argue against what I ultimately think are well intent but foolhardy blue pill notions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 08:34 PM
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Context. I'm trying summarise the thoughts of a conscientious boy caught in the hysteria of "Rape culture" A.k.A Rape-nado. Yes its an absurd statement only to mirror western civilisation as a rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 09:23 PM
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Its interesting that rape and sexual assault gets focus on considering that neither were involved , as far as i can gather. If sex is all he wanted, he could have used his Hollywood "connection" to con his way with a naive girl , he seemed well off enough to afford paying for sex. Armed, could have had his way at gun point should his only focus was sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 04:48 PM
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Fair enough. I thought you were oscillating quite a lot between acknowledging and discrediting gender differences is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 02:44 AM
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A few weeks back there was a couple topics discussing "how men were lied to" and this, i feel , is part of the problem. Listening to this you'd figure , if you were a half decent young men of value, that being nicer, emotionally open and moderated your advances , women would respect and appreciate you because they live otherwise in a rape-nado. Frankly, my blue pills years were brought about by a similar story. History repeating i suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/14 10:45 PM
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Just out of curiosity, and its off topic i know, but what makes you Purple pill rather than blue ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/14 04:39 PM
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Yes, I am acknowledging gender differences. Are you the type to acknowledge gender differences for better or worse, or is this the ,selective ,one way street of gender difference? So... thoughts? I've seen women excel in academia and in the work place but go full-retard with regards to sexual/romantic endeavours and expectations. As far as I'm concerned, TRP is mainly there to help men navigate the seemingly chaotic and traitorous waters of the dating world . Its not surprising that we'd attribu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/14 04:43 AM
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I'd assume the message is directed at those who wish , or had trouble finding , commitment. Its pretty hard to care for or provide for someone who only thinks about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 03:05 AM
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I would think that some gender specific roles serve to build up the individual . Either gender can perform as ''parent'' but the aggregate of certain traits forms the role of a ''father'' or ''mother''.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 10:44 PM
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Its neither good or bad from a Redpill perspective , it simply is. I don't even think its accurate, but it acts as a place-holder explanation for the cryptic reasons you got dumped and/or be cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/14 10:05 PM
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If I based my love life off the movies, all I have to do is bake a batch of cookies and lie helpless in the street and the guy I always secretly crushed on will fall in love with me and save me. In the "Male groupie" thread you said Regular women have men throwing themselves at them all the time. Nothing really changes if she becomes famous. The things is, a regular girl will get male attention regardless ,and you'll agree a regular guy won't have groupies/ women throwing themselves at his feet.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 10:23 PM
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I'd say that short term liaisons are the only rational choice since the psychological efforts and emotional risks are too high in long term relationships. I'm not convinced that STR are worth it, rather its the opposite that usually ain't .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/14 04:48 PM
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In fact, this group will reinforce it, whether it is positive or negative, do you agree? When it comes to gender politics ,i believe Group-identification is only relevant to the degree where it gives its proponents a framework to navigate interpersonal relationships in a given context and/or environment. I'm not a devout RP zealot if that's what you're implying. I'm not interested in preaching it either. If i could do with out , i would. That said, it crystallizes what I've seen and lived throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/14 12:30 AM
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Clubs are one of the few socially acceptable, relatively consequence free , places where men can approach women. Its not surprising ,therefore, that we have means of interaction that are effective/developed in circumstances that are recreate-able , testable and observable .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 12:18 AM
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I don't feel like people here desperately try to have the last word. It's mostly an exchange of idea. I was only trying to be polite. If it happen that i did not reply in a promptly fashion (and that the discussion suffered as a result), at least it was established beforehand why that was. say, you get up one morning and decide to put on a blue shirt. As you get out, it starts raining. The exact same thing happened to your friend the other day, too. He had a blue shirt then BAM, rain. Conclusion…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 07:28 PM
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Let me give you two example. My first girlfriend dated me cause i had a car. How do i know this? Because barely a month after she got access to one of her own , "thing weren't working out and we should start seeing other people". She wanted/needed mobility. Some acquaintances of mine recently got engage. They knew each others for , roughly, 6 years and had spent 4 together , bought a house. She lost her (comparatively) low-paying job and joined the gym where i go to "keep her busy while she was …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 10:31 PM
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Almost certainly. however I think women's wants and needs are often fulfilled at the expense of men, while a men's wants and needs aren't normally at the expense of women. Now its late here, so have the last word if you must.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 04:04 AM
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Against a women's ever changing wants & need. As i've said before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 03:37 AM
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A better way that i could have said it is; Its to disclose -fully- to men what they are engaging with if they decide to commit to a post or pre wall women. Really the decision is up to them. On second thought, i do agree that the certain archetypical post-wall stories have a broader appeal. Aside from what i've mentioned above there is certainly a bunch of stories about post-wall (cougar) women leaving their husbands to fuck the pool-boy and go back to a pre-wall life style. I don't really have …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 03:34 AM
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What improvement is meant to be made with this supposed information? Its a cautionary tale for men about women's ever changing wants and needs and how it pertains to the effects of ageing on looks. Pre-wall its all fun and games, to hell with commitment. Post-wall its a whole different tune and its time for you to bag a beta provider before its really too late. The information is meant for the moderate redpill that might be desperate for love/foolish enough to fall for post wall LTR .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 02:57 AM
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Alternatively, that could be explained by the fact that women are actually more attractive than men, on average. Only if we were to consider objectifiable traits that are present in either gender. I mean , i certainly hope that an attractive man is different than an attractive woman, in the sense that one is attractive as a man and the other attractive as a woman , rather than being universally "attractive". Women can certainly put more efforts into their appearance to emphasize certain traits t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 09:27 PM
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It could be that the attractiveness criteria are harsher on men then women. I mean we've all seen that Okc statistics where a majority of men (reviewed by women) are considered below average on attractiveness while only the top percentile were attractive or above. While a majority of women (rated by men) were considered attractive. Right? So by default , a woman doesn't have to be attractive its just happen that most of them are (to men), while men usually don't meet the criteria of "physical at…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 04:06 PM
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How do we reconcile those two things? The same way I'd judge any other person , by their deeds. Talk is cheap. If you say one thing but act to the opposite, its pretty obvious which holds more influence over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 10:27 PM
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If he fails they're on the street and have to start from square one at later stages when both of them are less desirable in the workforce. I would think most divorces are issued before such scenario comes to pass: get what you can before "he fails" , like you say. As for other marriage arrangements, i really cant comment on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 06:57 PM
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There's no inherent problem with complaining about something, so long as you do something about it (To remedy it). The main issue is that women would want men to change to accustom them while TRP (at the very least) tries to guide men to reach a set goal. Specifically about marriage, regardless of how a prospect is rated , the risk stays the same. If i'm going take the risk of losing 1/2 my stuff , it better be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 03:05 PM
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If the shoes doesn't fit , don't wear it. However i would never doubt the human capacity for self deception. I think you`re just upset that parts of your actions & personality can fall within a modelled behaviour (TRP). It conflict with your own sense of uniqueness. Its no different than marketing analysing the behaviour of ''this'' type of person or ''that'' type of person then having a tailored advertising technique to a target audience , same goes for politics or psychology. So why not sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 09:44 PM
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The fatal flaw of TRP is that is tries to find one size fits all solutiona for complicated human challenges. Unfortunately a ''One size fits'' approach is better than no strategy at all. Moreover there is no reason why you can adapt TRP to your own situation. In fact i think this is so obvious it doesn't even merit the need to point it out. FWB , ONS , Poly/open double digit long and short term sexual partners , you're basically food for TRP. You created your own monster if you ask me. You and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 03:44 AM
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Would this apply to men also? Seeing how having many sexual partners made you more confident and comfortable with yourself (and others like you),We should try and formulate ways that teaches men how to sleep with as many women as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 09:32 PM
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How , specifically, did you became a better person by sleeping around? Is it trait acquisition: Perhaps sleeping with a man with certain aptitudes rubbed off on you after a while. Is it circumstantial: Perhaps having several ONS lead you to sharpen how you size people up. Would you have not became a better person regardless of the number of sexual partners: Were double digit dicks really necessary to this. Could any sexual preference found with a double digit partner count not be just as easily …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 01:31 AM
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What do women who slut it up look for when they ride the cock carousel? Its rationalized with the ''I have to find myself '' thing. That's how women become irreparably damaged, you wont get enlighten by taking dicks. But somehow they figured that by mimicking male libido they'd acquire/internalize the need they have for men's approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 03:58 AM
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If you were , at some point in your life , a susceptible kid you'd probably wouldn't know any better. Its only after its too late that you figure out that the "be-true-to-yourself-good-guy-underdog" doesn't often sway the girls. And now you have TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 11:45 PM
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But I guess the argument is that it will be harder to attract a "quality male" in your 30's, than it would be in your 20's. I think its more of a question that what women consider "quality males" changes drastically, either in terms of priority/importance and/or possession of. Attracting males ,generally speaking, shouldn't be that difficult. I'm sure that traits you find unpleasant in your boyfriend now were originally things you were looking for in a mate; He's carefree, adventurous , wild and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 09:15 PM
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At the same time, there could be Bluepillers who are just naturally a little bit of a jerk towards women and it seems so normal to them (and women still like them) I think that's the gist of it , you act red but label yourself blue. Whether you're a jerk or confident is really a question of attractiveness. I think that TRP is necessary for those who are incapable of separating ideals and conduct. If you go about having to behave in a certain manner in order to feel culturally accepted, you'll ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/14 07:18 PM
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The gain here is -attention- and/or -drama-, which is something woman want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/14 01:40 AM
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So everything women think is a logical fallacy? I cannot read minds, i cannot ascertain whether or not the thoughts of women are logically sound. However i can tell you that what women -say- and what they -do- are two very different, often contradictory, things. Its not surprising , therefore , that the scope of analysis would produce different and/or contradictory result. For instance , if a women condemns the "objectification" of women but shows nothing but cleavage , she's illogical. If she's…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 04:46 AM
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I don't see how any of this is inherently contradictory. You might uphold a worldview that is irreconcilable with the basis of your actions, ergo illogical/pragmatic. Your goals could be irrational but your methods of attaining them machiavellian. You could be an avid manipulator yet still be gullible your self. If anything , humans are more than capable of this; Doublethink , cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 01:44 AM
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So you're advocating for Eugenics? In a sense. It should be established that the parents are well apt at raising kids. It should have very little to do , directly , with genetics rather it should be required to prove that a child will be raised in a caring environment (Regardless of relationship status) or that a "would-be" voter is versed on the matter at hand. Again , little to do with genetics. Here's 2 example to frame my point of view My father was a cocaine addict, my mother a drunk. From …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 10:27 PM
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If anything there should be some sort of aptitude test needed to have the right to vote and/or procreate. I know it sounds harsh and i know the dangers present in legislating something like this but i think the alternative has proven well intent but foolhardy. As for the why, well i would think the minimum requirement to bring forth life in this world or have a say in the functioning of society is to prove that you're capable of understanding the full scope of your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/14 09:49 PM
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