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| 1 | Any LeftWing MGTOWs out there?Yes, I'm left-wing. I'm not down with the postmodern, identity politics, politically correct, feminist crowd, but I'm all for economic justice and economic democracy. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/10/19 11:37 AM |
| 1 | A little piece of teenage-me died today.Wow, she hit it hard. Happens to all of them eventually. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/10/19 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Why do I still allow myself to be controlled by society?Thanks. Any practice you found helps you develop your objective and rational mind? Yes, reading, studying, thinking and writing. Generally exercising your brain by informing and taxing it in reason-based areas of study such as philosophy and science. Don't have unexamined or unsupported assumptions, because much of what people think or thought to be true isn't, including amongst all highly eminent and intelligent people. Develop a genuine and dispassionate desire to know the truth, whilst humbly… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/10/19 10:34 AM |
| 1 | Why do I still allow myself to be controlled by society?Thanks. Any practice you found helps you develop your objective and rational mind? Yes, reading, studying, thinking and writing. Generally exercising your brain by informing and taxing it in reason-based areas of study such as philosophy and science. Don't have unexamined or unsupported assumptions, because much of what people think or thought to be true isn't, including amongst all highly eminent and intelligent people. Develop a genuine and dispassionate desire to know the truth, whilst humbly… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/10/19 10:30 AM |
| 1 | Let's discuss this .Women just recently gained their rights. So you mean to tell me that all civilizations are created and manegeded by women ? Women marry up ? Didnt they get married off by their fathers/ guardians ? Men that chose the guys for them to marry ? The value of female virginity is mainly a male interest and a religious standpoint that also puts women under the supervision of men . I can't figure this one out. It's either men are the doers and the creator of civilizations . Or that we live in gynocentri… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/10/19 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Let's discuss this .Agreed but most MGTOWs call these men simps / soyboys and cucks . Now isn't that contradictory ? There's no contradiction. If a man is pedestalizing women or entering a gynocentric relationship that places him at a disadvantage, I wouldn't necessarily use the terms that you use here, but I would agree with the general ethos they convey. Such men would be making less than optimal decisions for themselves as men, in order to worship or placate women/society. I wouldn't encourage that. Nevertheless… | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/10/19 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Why do I still allow myself to be controlled by society?Why do I still allow myself to be controlled by society? It's because you have not fulfilled your potential yet. You are still a work in progress, so you are more likely to be deferential towards others and lack confidence. As you come to know more, develop and improve, you will be less dependent on other people's opinions. Stay focussed on what you ultimately and genuinely want out of life and work every day towards that end. Enjoy the process and set new goals, big and small, as you surpass th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/10/19 10:35 PM |
| 7 | Let's discuss this .What's to discuss? These are false dichotomies. Neither men nor women where oppressed based on gender. Nevertheless, both men and women had more restricted roles. Generally, it's better to be free than unnecessarily restricted in what one wants to do. If someone wants to pursue the traditional conservative route, that's up to them. Equally, if someone wants to party or play video games with their time, that's up to them too. I'm all about people having the freedom to do what they want to do. | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/10/19 10:06 PM |
| 1 | When you look at people in happy relationships, don't you feel like you're settling for less?When you look at people in happy relationships, don't you feel like you're settling for less? Absolutely not. Freedom always beats modern relationships. I love not having to deal with a woman on a permanent basis or having them encroach on my free time. It's liberating having complete control over how I spend my time and not having it disrupted by the concerns of a woman. It's hard to tell if a man is in a genuinely happy relationship unless you know him intimately and there is no reason to thin… | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/10/19 09:53 PM |
| 2 | Society is stacked against going your own way. Is there an answer?Going your own way does not entail going the poverty route. You can go your own way with every intention of being rich. Those MGTOW who choose to go off-the-grid will be in the exact same risk category as non-MGTOW people who choose to go off-the-grid. Going off-the-grid is a lifestyle preference with its own array of pros and cons, independent of being MGTOW. It's not inherent to MGTOW. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/08/19 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Why my heart is brokenYes, it's important that men recognise the opportunities and freedom that being unencumbered by a relationship brings. In a better cultural environment than the current landscape, that would be sufficient for men to recognise the beauty of bachelorhood or MGTOW, with barely a mention of women. Unfortunately, men often cannot recognise this because they have been so brainwashed by the culture they grow up in and their judgement is usually impaired by their sexual attraction towards women. The onl… | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/08/19 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Do you consider Purple Pill men to be MGTOW?The MGTOW acronym is representative, not descriptive, even though there is a partial descriptive reference in the title. Going your own way does not mean going whatever way you want. The entire philosophy is not described in the title. That's just the title. Any number of other titles could have been used instead. As Shakespeare said, "what's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." MGTOW actually means something specifically, that entails avoiding marriage a… | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/08/19 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Which political party is most appropriate for MGTOW?MGTOW is about men prioritising themselves over women and society because women and society prioritise themselves over men. It represents men refusing to conform to entities that do not have their best interests at heart or even understand them. For each MGTOW man, what this looks like is going to be different. There is no one party that satisfactorily addresses the diverse range of issues that disproportionately affect men. Some are stronger in some areas and weaker in others. As far as the Lib… | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/08/19 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Serious questionI agree with you. It's a mixed bag in the MGTOW community. Some men are born or evolved bachelors who would avoid relationships in any circumstances. Others are men who think that they would like a relationship if the circumstances were right, but currently judge the societal circumstances to be too bad to go down that road. Personally, I fall into the evolved bachelor category. Like most people, I was brainwashed by the romantic bluepill fantasy, despite an uncertain instinctual resistance to t… | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/19 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Serious questionI agree with you. It's a mixed bag in the MGTOW community. Some men are born or evolved bachelors who would avoid relationships in any circumstances. Others are men who think that they would like a relationship if the circumstances were right, but currently judge the societal circumstances to be too bad to go down that road. Personally, I fall into the evolved bachelor category. Like most people, I was brainwashed by the romantic bluepill fantasy, despite an uncertain instinctual resistance to t… | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/19 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Life doesn’t have to be sufferingMy pleasure. Yes, I think we sometimes have a tendency to think that we know more than we actually do. Hubris will be our undoing if we are not careful. Of course, we should always seek knowledge and progress, but to do so without humility risks greater error and impedes our ability to correct course. In the back of our minds, we should always entertain the possibility that we could be wrong, however counter-intuitive that may seem to us, and be prepared to make rational and sensible adjustments… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Life doesn’t have to be sufferingI agree that America could be a lot better than it currently is. At the same time I recognise that any human arrangement will always fall far short of perfection. Unfortunately, human progress is always slow and human beings are not yet sufficiently evolved or informed enough to recognize the idiocy of certain, current, dreadful practises, at least not en masse. However, that time may still come. In the meantime and at all times, we should recognize that despite being at the top of the food chai… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Life doesn’t have to be sufferingI agree that America could be a lot better than it currently is. At the same time I recognise that any human arrangement will always fall far short of perfection. Unfortunately, human progress is always slow and human beings are not yet sufficiently evolved or informed enough to recognize the idiocy of certain, current, dreadful practises, at least not en masse. However, that time may still come. In the meantime and at all times, we should recognize that despite being at the top of the food chai… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 03:38 PM |
| 5 | Really glad this sub exists - anyone else married/in a relationship but happy because she also shares the same values about men and women?Well him and his wife seem happy so no problem right? No problem for me, either way. As for him, who knows what the future holds? In any case, the point of this forum is to discuss matters related to MGTOW. Whether someone is currently happy or sad about their situation is immaterial to whether comments here are pertinent to the subject of MGTOW. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/08/19 11:18 PM |
| 4 | Really glad this sub exists - anyone else married/in a relationship but happy because she also shares the same values about men and women?If he makes it work who cares if it sounds contradictory. One has nothing to do with the other. If it works for him and he's happy, good luck to him. I was simply pointing out that what he described, is not going your own way, as he asserted, at least as the expression is understood in the MGTOW world. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/08/19 11:04 PM |
| 1 | Sex driveDon't get rid of your sex drive. Enjoy your sex drive and the energy that sexual energy gives you, just live on your own terms, as close and far as is possible. Removing your sex drive will adversely affect your happiness, gumption and pleasure in life. The point of MGTOW is not to compromise what you want for pussy. If that means using porn, sex aids and sex workers to get off, so be it. All the more pleasure and fun for you. MGTOW is not about abandoning who and what you are, as a man. It's ab… | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/08/19 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Really glad this sub exists - anyone else married/in a relationship but happy because she also shares the same values about men and women?Your post sounds contradictory. You can't go your own way and be married or be in a relationship as involved as yours sounds. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/08/19 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Why do feminists seem suspicious of promiscuous men?Feminists are suspicious of men period. Their whole narrative is that men are oppressors and seek to oppress women. With that deranged view, why wouldn't they be suspicious of everything that men do? | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/07/19 12:26 PM |
| 1 | Famous Female Wrote About "Having It All," Now Admits Regretting Not Having Kids (Something I think is worth sharing. Also, only fools think that it is possible to get it all without cost or consequence.)The woman is apparently worth £18 million and in good health. I doubt that there is any profound regret in her not having children. She might be a little wistful at times, wondering what if, but that is always going to be the case, no matter what choices you make, as there is always an opportunity cost with each decision or life path. Had she had children, she might be regretting that choice. It's always been a stereotype that family men go through a mid-life crisis as they reach middle-age and … | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/07/19 10:49 AM |
| 1 | Famous Female Wrote About "Having It All," Now Admits Regretting Not Having Kids (Something I think is worth sharing. Also, only fools think that it is possible to get it all without cost or consequence.)The woman is apparently worth £18 million and in good health. I doubt that there is any profound regret in her not having children. She might be a little wistful at times, wondering what if, but that is always going to be the case, no matter what choices you make, as there is always an opportunity cost with each decision or life path. Had she had children, she might be regretting that choice. It's always been a stereotype that family men go through a mid-life crisis as they reach middle-age and … | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/07/19 10:45 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW would be so much more effective without the women bashingYou cant understand women. They dont understand themselves. And men's brains are more wired towards logic, thought, designing. Women are more emotional and volatile. Both of these serve their own purposes, but what happens on subs is people start off with "but we're trying to understand female nature" when in actuality it's just an excuse to bitch about women and a lack of romantic success. And it's annoying as hell from a moderation perspective because it is a constant stream to moderate. Human… | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/07/19 10:22 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW would be so much more effective without the women bashingYou don't need to understand women. For fucks sake they don't understand themselves. You don't need to, by why wouldn't you want to understand more about the environment you live in? It can only help you make better and more informed decisions. The only person you NEED to understand is yourself. You don't even need to understand yourself, but, again, why wouldn't you want to understand yourself and as much about the world as you can? Dispassionate discussion about circumstances you have found yo… | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/07/19 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Question about coping up with lonelinessThe quest for meaning or the avoidance of an existential crisis, is a central affliction of the human condition, given our awareness of our own existence and inevitable death. This problem has plagued human beings since time immemorial. People typically distract themselves from the apparent pointlessness of it all by creating meaning via things like relationships, family, job and religion. However, even these things may be insufficient to alleviate the malaise that befalls people when they strug… | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/07/19 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Question about coping up with lonelinessAt times like that you have to remember that the bluepill fantasy you learned about from Disney, Hollywood, popular culture and society generally, is a fantasy. The companionship you seek is not real and does not exist. It's a pretence that men and women maintain between each other, even though the underlying reality is much less celestial and much more practical. Moreover, the maintenance of that companionship usually depends on the loss of your freedom, time and much more. There is always a hu… | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/07/19 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Question about coping up with lonelinessAt times like that you have to remember that the bluepill fantasy you learned about from Disney, Hollywood, popular culture and society generally, is a fantasy. The companionship you seek is not real and does not exist. It's a pretence that men and women maintain between each other, even though the underlying reality is much less celestial and much more practical. Moreover, the maintenance of that companionship usually depends on the loss of your freedom, time and much more. There is always a hu… | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/07/19 09:43 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW would be so much more effective without the women bashinggood post. I agree. I see the usefulness of this forum as a place to share experience and observation, to learn and provide a knowledge base for men, especially young men, to learn the hard red pill truths and possibly save themselves a lot of pain, frustration, financial danger, etc. Thanks. I feel the same way. Whilst general information about bachelor living is also good and useful, any MGTOW forum would be incomplete and a disservice to men, without the part which cross-examines women and th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/07/19 03:40 PM |
| 3 | MGTOW would be so much more effective without the women bashingI think there is a difference between playing the victim card, screaming at, berating or bashing women and calling women out or making observations about women. Justified criticism and dispassionate observation are neither of the things you mentioned. It's important that men honestly discuss women, in order to understand them and help other men understand them, otherwise you will just have more men walking around in ignorance, especially given the overwhelming dominance of the propaganda machine… | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/07/19 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Read This If You Struggle With Women - The Case That Men Are Objectively BetterYes, it's no way to live. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/07/19 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Read This If You Struggle With Women - The Case That Men Are Objectively BetterYes, it's unfortunate that some people cannot see the intent of your post on a redpill forum, of all places. It's men's lack of vigilance and the abandonment of all sense of reason when faced with pussy that has gotten us into this mess to begin with. Men need to stand up for themselves and call a spade a spade. Being critical of blind gynocentricism or lauding the unique attributes and contributions of men, should not be interpreted as hateful towards women in the redpill community, even on MGT… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/07/19 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Read This If You Struggle With Women - The Case That Men Are Objectively Better----MEN ARE OBJECTIVELY BETTER THAN WOMEN. Let's not put men on a pedestal as well. Some men are bad, some women are bad. Some men are good, some women are good. It's not a competition. MGTOW is about men making good decisions around cost/benefits analysis of marriage. Yes, but MGTOW is part of the manosphere and redpill community, so it should not shy away from making dispassionate observations about the world, just because they might be politically incorrect. You have no chance of uncovering t… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/07/19 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Read This If You Struggle With Women - The Case That Men Are Objectively Better----MEN ARE OBJECTIVELY BETTER THAN WOMEN. Let's not put men on a pedestal as well. Some men are bad, some women are bad. Some men are good, some women are good. It's not a competition. MGTOW is about men making good decisions around cost/benefits analysis of marriage. Yes, but MGTOW is part of the manosphere and redpill community, so it should not shy away from making dispassionate observations about the world, just because they might be politically incorrect. You have no chance of uncovering t… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/07/19 09:12 AM |
| 1 | Read This If You Struggle With Women - The Case That Men Are Objectively BetterEvery now and then I see a post here by a young guy who has women on a pedestal... ----MEN ARE OBJECTIVELY BETTER THAN WOMEN. Let's not put men on a pedestal as well. Some men are bad, some women are bad. Some men are good, some women are good. It's not a competition. MGTOW is about men making good decisions around cost/benefits analysis of marriage. Yes, but MGTOW is part of the manosphere and redpill community, so it should not shy away from making dispassionate observations about the world, j… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/07/19 09:01 AM |
| 1 | Read This If You Struggle With Women - The Case That Men Are Objectively BetterEvery now and then I see a post here by a young guy who has women on a pedestal... ----MEN ARE OBJECTIVELY BETTER THAN WOMEN. Let's not put men on a pedestal as well. Some men are bad, some women are bad. Some men are good, some women are good. It's not a competition. MGTOW is about men making good decisions around cost/benefits analysis of marriage. Yes, but MGTOW is part of the manosphere and redpill community, so it should not shy away from making dispassionate observations about the world, j… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/07/19 08:31 AM |
| 1 | I feel invisible sometimes.I really don’t know to be completely honest. I really want to build myself into a strong character. I feel like I present a good image but it’s hollow. I do cool stuff and own a business but it still feels like I’m empty. I don’t really know what I’m doing How do I figure out how to navigate this and build myself up to be not hollow? Set big goals, and small ones in between, for things that you would like to do or achieve in life. Also embark on a constant quest of self-mastery, acquiring new kn… | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/07/19 11:32 PM |
| 1 | I feel invisible sometimes.I do see now that I was seeking validation:( but it feels like I’m totally Hard wired to need that. How do I stop myself from looking for validation for them? I don't think it's simply a question of hardwiring, though there may be some of that. There will be considerable brainwashing in there too. In any case, you can overcome this desire for validation from women. The first thing to understand is that women are not special or magical. They are not operating on a higher moral level than any othe… | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/07/19 11:13 PM |
| 1 | I feel invisible sometimes.I do see now that I was seeking validation:( but it feels like I’m totally Hard wired to need that. How do I stop myself from looking for validation for them? I don't think it's simply a question of hardwiring, though there may be some of that. There will be considerable brainwashing in there too. In any case, you can overcome this desire for validation. The first thing to understand is that women are not special or magical. They are not operating on a higher moral level than any other human. It… | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/07/19 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Advice on “unrealistic” goals/dreamsFirstly, I'd be wary of listening to mediocre people who think you are being unrealistic. Part of the reason they are mediocre is because they didn't think big enough in their own lives. I think you should think big. However, there are risks involved and there are limits to human endeavour, so you are going to have to think carefully about what you choose to do. You are not going to be able to do everything at the same time or even necessarily at all, and will need to prioritize. One criteria to… | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/07/19 09:27 AM |
| 1 | I feel invisible sometimes.Everyone is invisible to somebody else. I wouldn't worry about it. Myopia and egocentricism are prominent aspects of the human psyche. Besides, she only just met you and did little more than have a conversation with you. That's not long enough or an involved enough interaction to build a substantive bond. It sounds like you still have to shed some of your bluepill brainwashing, as you are seeking validation from this woman and appear to be putting her on a pedestal. Understand that, like most pe… | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/07/19 08:28 AM |
| 1 | Ordered this Jordan Peterson shirt and thought I'd share it, it's one of the nicer designs I've seenPeterson is not a fan of MGTOW nor are MGTOW a fan of his, so I don't see the relevance of posting this here. He popularizes some important ideas, but he also talks a lot of nonsense. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/07/19 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Anyone wish they didn't have to go their own way?Well said. Thank you. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/07/19 10:05 PM |
| 1 | The case against traditional masculinityTraditional masculinity was murdered by feminism. To concede to its defeat by rejecting it completely, is an indirect surrender to the destructive monolith that feminism has become. I couldn't agree more. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/07/19 10:18 AM |
| 1 | The case against traditional masculinityNot all aspects of traditional masculinity involved protecting and providing for women or making sacrifices for society. Some aspects are about attributes within the individual, such as strength, emotional stability (stoicism) and rationality. An individual need not throw out the baby with the bathwater if some aspects of traditional masculinity serve them well in relation to their own desires and goals. I believe that MGTOW was originally conceived to promote traditional conservative values in … | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/07/19 12:30 PM |
| 1 | Thanks guys for your comments and support.I'm happy to hear that you are feeling a bit better. That will only continue as more time passes. Keep well and good luck going forward. | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/07/19 05:51 PM |
| 1 | I'm close to being separated, I feel all the emotions like fear and sadness, but also defeat, wasted of time. What am I not thinking or feeling that should be positive in my situation guys? Please, thank you.A further thought. No one is perfect and life is comprised of successes and failures, for everybody. Moreover, life is not a destination, it is a journey, so the concept of wasting time, when it comes to the course of a life, is questionable. Every success and failure is part of the learning experience and impacts your development as a human being. As the old cliché goes, what does not kill you, makes you stronger. I think Rudyard Kipling's famous poem, If, is appropriate here. If— If you can ke… | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/07/19 10:28 PM |
| 1 | I'm close to being separated, I feel all the emotions like fear and sadness, but also defeat, wasted of time. What am I not thinking or feeling that should be positive in my situation guys? Please, thank you.What you're probably not thinking or feeling that is positive in your situation is the increased freedom you will have in what you do and how you spend your time. This presents enormous opportunities and increased flexibility in the course your future could take. You are no longer constricted and weighed down by the old ball and chain. Obviously, it can be scary to let go of something familiar or with which you have grown attached. That's natural. However, every ending is the beginning of someth… | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/07/19 10:06 PM |
| 1 | immediate reaction to the post "direction of this subreddit"Okay, I've finally understood what you are saying. You can ignore my previous long post in response to this, though there are still some relevant insights there. Just to be clear, you are saying that you could not recognize when you started to do better professionally and financially after swallowing the redpill, because the void created by rejecting women made your increased success seem meaningless or, as you say, less important. Whereas, before, when you were involved with a woman, but were d… | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/07/19 09:43 PM |
| 1 | immediate reaction to the post "direction of this subreddit"Okay, I've finally understood what you are saying. You can ignore my previous long post in response to this, though there are still some relevant insights there. Just to be clear, you are saying that you could not recognize when you started to do better professionally and financially after swallowing the redpill, because the void created by rejecting women made your increased success seem meaningless or, as you say, less important. Whereas, before, when you were involved with a woman, but were d… | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/07/19 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Anyone wish they didn't have to go their own way?My pleasure. Glad it was helpful. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/07/19 06:40 AM |
| 1 | immediate reaction to the post "direction of this subreddit"Okay, now I understand. Congratulations on your success. Yes, it's interesting isn't it, how you all of a sudden become a bigger babe magnet the moment you become visibly more materially successful, even though you may not have changed in the way you conduct yourself. Referring back to your original post, I think there is a biological aspect in the pleasure that men derive from sharing their success with women or a woman. I don't believe that it is simply indoctrination, though that plays a role… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/07/19 06:18 PM |
| 1 | immediate reaction to the post "direction of this subreddit"Okay, now I understand. Congratulations on your success. Yes, it's interesting isn't it, how you all of a sudden become a bigger babe magnet the moment you become visibly more materially successful, even though you may not have changed in the way you conduct yourself. Referring back to your original post, I think there is a biological aspect in the pleasure that men derive from sharing their success with women or a woman. I don't believe that it is simply indoctrination, though that plays a role… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/07/19 06:13 PM |
| 1 | immediate reaction to the post "direction of this subreddit"Okay, now I understand. Congratulations on your success. Yes, it's interesting isn't it, how you all of a sudden become a bigger babe magnet the moment you become visibly more materially successful, even though you may not have changed in the way you conduct yourself. Referring back to your original post, I think there is a biological aspect in the pleasure that men derive from sharing their success with women or a woman. I don't believe that it is simply indoctrination, though that plays a role… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/07/19 06:09 PM |
| 1 | immediate reaction to the post "direction of this subreddit"Could you elaborate a little more on what you are referring to? Better results in relation to what? Thanks. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/07/19 01:51 PM |
| 1 | On the topic of sugardaddiesNo, I think the problem goes much deeper than this. The underlying problem is that men and women are different, have different biological needs and different optimal mating strategies. On top of this, the social problem causing MGTOW is that men don't believe that their needs are being adequately addressed within the gynocentric framework of modern Western societies and modern romantic relationships. Of course, you cannot always get everything that you want and some compromise is usually require… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/07/19 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Anyone wish they didn't have to go their own way?Going your own way is freedom, both in how you live your life and from society's control over how you live your life. It is freedom from the lies about women, men and gender dynamics, which dictates most other people's lives. There is a sort of smug satisfaction in having escaped the blue pill brainwashing and groupthink that controls most other people like sheep or some other irrational animal. This is the cathartic feeling of happiness and relief that washes over MGTOW men when they realise th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/07/19 08:18 AM |
| 1 | Anyone wish they didn't have to go their own way?Going your own way is freedom, both in how you live your life and from society's control over how you live your life. It is freedom from the lies about women, men and gender dynamics, which dictates most other people's lives. There is a sort of smug satisfaction in having escaped the blue pill brainwashing and groupthink that controls most other people like sheep or some other irrational animal. This is the cathartic feeling of happiness and relief that washes over MGTOW men when they realise th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/07/19 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Anyone wish they didn't have to go their own way?Going your own way is freedom, both in how you live your life and from society's control over how you live your life. It is freedom from the lies about women, men and gender dynamics, which dictates most other people's lives. There is a sort of smug satisfaction in having escaped the blue pill brainwashing and groupthink that controls most other people like sheep or some other irrational animal. This is the cathartic feeling of happiness and relief that washes over MGTOW men when they realise th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/07/19 08:03 AM |
| 2 | FUCK WOMEN AND FUCK FEMINISM! GO MGTOW!The best form of revenge is success, not defeat. Channel your anger towards your own personal happiness and success. Fuel your motivation from the understanding that, as a man, feminism wants you to fail or succumb to feminist rule. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/07/19 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Thinking of adopting this lifestyleYou can say hello to ANYONE (including women) in a good mood without being suspected of being a rapist, scammer or just being stared at dumbfounded for just being someone who is in a happy mood. Wow. Incredible. I can't stand living in a downer culture like that that doesn't have a basic assumption that human beings are good, people are supposed to work together and have fun together. I tell you, it's crazy. Just this Monday, in London, England, I was waiting for my order in a KFC, when a woman … | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/07/19 08:32 PM |
| 1 | What if you're wrong about feminism? Let's have a rational discussion.Last reply on this before making a more explicit post: Not only is it possible. It's the reality. Many men have been feminised by their upbringing and many suffer cognitive dissonance and unhappiness because of it. Absolutely! I don't underestimate the problem of current consumerism. I was just distinguishing between the phenomenon of being a consumer and current consumerism. I'm not just talking about the exploitation and environmental impact of modern consumerism, but that it is fundamentally … | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/07/19 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Thinking of adopting this lifestyleYes, live the lifestyle that you want to live. This is freedom. Ignore the external voices telling you that you have to do one thing or the other. You will be much happier this way. Regarding children, you should examine why you want them. I find that people often want children as a crutch, against a purposeless existence or to combat existential concerns about their mortality. However, these are not good reasons to have children if they are going to adversely affect your happiness and the quali… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/07/19 02:16 PM |
| 1 | What if you're wrong about feminism? Let's have a rational discussion.Seems that way as face value, doesn't it? Could it be possible that many men are somewhat effeminate and emotional not because that is their natural state, but because they have been feminised by women? Could the (increasing) predominance of males being raised by single females have something to do with men's increasingly emotional and volatile emotional states? Stats seem to evidence men from single parent families generally aren't as balanced or do as well as those with both parents (or at lea… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/07/19 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Thinking of adopting this lifestyleYes, live the lifestyle that you want to live. This is freedom. Ignore the external voices telling you that you have to do one thing or the other. You will be much happier this way. Regarding children, you should examine why you want them. I find that people often want children as a crutch, against a purposeless existence or to combat existential concerns about their mortality. However, these are not good reasons to have children if they are going to adversely affect your happiness and the quali… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/07/19 02:04 PM |
| 1 | What if you're wrong about feminism? Let's have a rational discussion.A man is what he does, what he does is what he thinks, and what he thinks is what he believes. If there are two people in a room, and you are told one is stoic and reasonable, while the other is emotional and irrational, which do you think is the male, and which the female? Being emotional and ruled by one's emotions is effeminate and makes you easily manipulated. As I said, attributes like stoicism and rationality are more commonly found in stronger form amongst the male population than the fem… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/07/19 11:59 AM |
| 1 | What if you're wrong about feminism? Let's have a rational discussion.You are free to be a wage-slave and a consumer. I would also suggest that psychologically, masculine - manly - qualities also includes detachment, courage, stoicism, etc. Why is being a slave to women preferable to being a wage slave? At least there are routes out of wage slavery via self-employment, career advancement or possibly a restructuring of the work environment towards more cooperative arrangements where workers have a say and stake in the operation of the enterprise they work for. A wa… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/07/19 10:12 AM |
| 1 | What if you're wrong about feminism? Let's have a rational discussion.There is a core question underlining your entire argument: what is a man? What do you mean by a man, exactly? And what is manliness, what is it that is universal to men (not just basic biological things)? A man is a human being with an X and Y chromosome. That's all that's required to qualify as a man. It's up to him how he wants to behave and up to nature how he naturally feels inclined to behave. What's important is that he have the freedom to follow whichever path he choose, be that a more ma… | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/07/19 10:06 PM |
| 1 | What if you're wrong about feminism? Let's have a rational discussion.What if I'm wrong about feminism? What if I'm right? Of course, anyone can be wrong, but I tend to base my opinion on things like facts, evidence and dispassionate reason. These things are often ignored within the feminist ideology, which is about advocacy for women, not knowledge. Why would I replace a fact, evidence and reason-based way of understanding the world with one which is primarily about advocacy and which regularly, completely, disregards findings that go against its preconceived and… | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/07/19 08:28 PM |
| 2 | TRUMP and MGTOWTrump is married and believes in marriage, so he is not MGTOW. I disagree with him about practically everything, given that I'm politically left-wing. However, I share his disdain for political correctness, because I think it inhibits free speech and the advancement of knowledge. Unfortunately, the controversy surrounding Trump undermines legitimate criticisms he may have about things like political correctness and identity politics. Because he is so divisive and not a credible figure, people on… | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/07/19 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Mini-thoughts: my physical touch aspectYes, I think that the hysteria and histrionics surrounding crimes considered sexual, as opposed to other crimes, is caused by both people's repression about matters related to sex, the legacy of chivalry and, more recently, the promotion of feminism's false narrative that men are the evil oppressors of the poor and defenceless innocent women, who use sexual violence as a tool of their oppressive tyranny. The heightened importance given to sex crimes is caused by a perfect storm of these convergi… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/07/19 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Teenager MGTOWYou're likely not going to be able to ignore your sex drive, so use porn and your hand or a fleshlight. Just remember that your sexual attraction to women is biological. It has nothing to do with anything they are responsible for or any great personal qualities that they have. It is nature's way of getting you to reproduce, but you can circumvent it by finding alternative ways of satisfying your sex drive or using your sexual energy, that does not involve commitment to a woman. There are many mo… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/07/19 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Mini-thoughts: my physical touch aspectYes, the credibility of the publicly stated personal sexual abuse story has been undermined by a combination of the petty things that can qualify as sexual abuse these days, the exaggeration of the traumatising effects of some of these encounters and the elevation of victimhood status to the extent that identifying oneself as a victim can garner considerable social kudos and sympathy. Of course, there are serious cases of sexual abuse that are traumatising, but the way some people flaunt their s… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/07/19 10:19 AM |
| 1 | The chad thing (no its not all)As someone already said, the Chad obsession is more of an incel or TRP thing. The first group complains about women's attraction to Chad, whilst the second group seek to become him. As you say, not all women are dating Chads, but I don't think discussions around Chad in the RP community hinge on who women actually date, as opposed to what makes their pussies wet and who gives them tingles. Any number of bald chubby men can date or marry attractive women if they have enough resources, status or p… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/07/19 01:25 AM |
| 1 | What are some interesting hobbies I could pick up (money is not a problem)?Not necessarily. People might have some vague idea about the kind of subjects or phenomena which interest or intrigue them, without knowing all the practical possibilities that exist in the real world that might help them explore these leanings. Say, for instance, someone had some vague notion that they liked beautiful things or mentally challenging pursuits, there could be a whole host of hobbies they might not know about but which would suit them well. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/07/19 11:22 PM |
| 1 | You guys were right....Remember, you are trying to redirect the unrelenting forces of evolution, which have been billions of years in the making. Not only that, you are also probably trying to combat the false social programming you have likely been subjected to, particularly regarding women and your responsibility towards them. It's no easy task to overcome these dispositions if they have become engrained. The key is to give primacy to your rational brain and rationality over what's going on in the head below your wa… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/07/19 10:53 PM |
| 1 | What are some interesting hobbies I could pick up (money is not a problem)?You should pursue hobbies that interest you, not because someone else thinks that they are interesting. If you don't find them interesting, you are not likely to persist with them anyway. What kind of things interest it? | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/07/19 09:29 PM |
| 1 | Is there a way to positively have a woman in my life while MGTOW?Intimacy, love and affection from a woman is largely hollow, as it is contingent on you satisfying her primal psychological and material needs, which are hypergamous by nature. It's all about her and what she needs, not about you and what you need or whatever heady notion you might have about the concept of love. Popular culture's ideas about love are all fantasy. They have no basis in reality and should be ignored by any red pill man worthy of that description. Once you understand the nature of… | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/07/19 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Has i get older i feel the need to get into a relationship...... (poor man thinking)Most men are brainwashed with the blue pill perspective. What can you expect? They don't realize that it's better to be free. | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/07/19 07:33 PM |
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