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In all my time here, I've never understood why people oppose the term "toxic masculinity". Men's advocates will strongly oppose harmful expectations imposed by society on men through 'masculinity', but when that toxic view is called what it is, people leap away. Opposition to Toxic Masculinity is a core component of Men's Rights, just without the name.
/r/MensRights05/09/17 01:21 PM
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I too have heard that argument about the wage gap.
/r/MensRights07/02/17 03:05 PM
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They didn't actually debunk the wage/earnings gap, they just said that they don't have a wage gap at Audi.
/r/MensRights07/02/17 03:02 PM
43

Everyone is right, it roughly means "mixed-blood".
/r/PussyPassDenied06/01/17 07:16 PM
2

The relevant archive link is under her picture.
/r/MensRights14/07/16 06:10 AM
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The article never really says that title IX is "problematic" or anything similar, it's just giving an uncommon perspective that we very rarely hear about.
/r/MensRights30/05/16 08:10 PM
3

Sounds like you got trolled by the mods
/r/MensRights15/04/16 05:46 PM
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That's certainly a major factor.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 05:46 PM
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Considering that women have historically avoided or been discouraged from education, I'm happy to see this.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 04:53 PM
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Yes, I fully agree with that, except providing a citation backs up your claim. If you just use your own definition, you're doing exactly what those certain people are trying to do.
/r/MensRights27/08/15 03:42 AM
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No, I was suggesting it because there are numerous different definitions used by different organizations. I don't want a citation, I figured it would be constructive to have one.
/r/MensRights27/08/15 03:26 AM
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While I agree, you may want to cite that.
/r/MensRights25/08/15 12:44 AM
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My uni has quite a few students over 30.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 07:24 PM
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So it's definitely possible.
/r/MensRights28/04/15 12:30 PM
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It could be true that he made a complete nuisance of himself, and the professor finally decided he wasn't welcome. This is why I'm still on the fence on this situation. Since I don't the specifics, I'm undecided.
/r/MensRights28/03/15 04:17 PM
1

The article says that most of the people behind the movement appear to be white males.
/r/MensRights15/03/15 05:18 PM
3

Seconded; the explanation makes sense, but I've not heard of it before.
/r/MensRights08/09/14 04:26 PM
9

Thank you for trying, for making an effort when some simply call it a “lost cause”. Those “lost causes” are just more fuel for the fire. If you had given up immediately, you would have been even more like her, and that's obviously not something to strive for.
/r/MensRights08/09/14 04:22 PM
1

While this is a valid counterpoint to Clinton's point, I do believe that this man is alive.
/r/MensRights15/08/14 12:03 AM
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For once, yes. While you can satirize a hypothetical situation, this is (presumably) a real occurrence.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 04:59 AM
6

This was the comment where I stopped reading... (broken up into chunks MRAs are the extremists. The MRA movement is for all intents and purposes a counter-movement to mainsteam women's rights, Already you can see broad strokes being painted. and the kind of person who moderately opposes women's rights Woah woah.. see that? “counter-movement” transformed into “moderately oppose[s]”. not the people who actively oppose the last few decades of women's rights achievements. The MRA movement is reactio…
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:21 PM
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I was just assuming that your team built all software solely with make, and I suppose cmake could be permitted as well...
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:04 PM
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Implying that if you compared it to certain data, it would either increase or decrease the "validity" of 22 million women being raped. The funny thing about perceived implications is that they tend to reflect more about the perceivers views than the original view. No, it does not change the validity of 22 million women being raped, it changes the validity of the point being made, and how meaningful it is in a larger context. 22 million rapes is horrendous under any circumstances, but if that 22 …
/r/MensRights08/06/14 09:03 AM
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Political propaganda relating to prostitution -> anti-male propaganda -> feminist propaganda Apparently?
/r/MensRights02/02/14 12:23 PM
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Especially because if they are ineed a victim, it would be more beneficial to offer them support than doubt. Additionally, it's also important to point out that one can support an alleged victim without accusing an alleged perpetrator.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 05:04 PM
1

I occasionally like things in the same realm as choking, but only if my partner wants it. I actually got into it because an ex asked me to do it.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 02:00 PM
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An extremenist would tell you that ① every man is the patriarchy, ② the secret handshake looks basically like this, which should not be confused with this, which is a male power fantasy, ③ the big bag of money is your paycheck, which oppresses women because it is worth more on average and the reason for this is irrelevant, and ③ you already keep women down as much as possible; you're a man, therefore you are oppressive.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 06:40 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/yiaXIj5.jpg
/r/MensRights27/07/13 04:41 PM
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Nothing at all. But no one's against that. Remember that a lot of people have incorrect assumptions about the entire MRM, and seem to believe that MR is woman hating and oppressive. They don't think we're advocating for rights, but oppression. They are, again, wrong, but if you see it from their perspective it's the right thing to do.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 01:09 AM
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One thing I've learned when I utilize definitions in an argument or point is that pretty much every abstract term is vagueasfuck. Abstract terms usually seem to form over time through varied usage, and that makes them inherently difficult to define. Plus, we then get into the realm of philosophy, and philosophy is an entire world of vagueness.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 04:25 AM
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I have heard similar stories, but only very, very rarely. I will admit that I almost always avoid people like that altogether, so it may be that my observations are biased away from such conversations. I've got a few friends who like to brag about sexual conquests (conquests which I know have happened, rather than just being stories), but I can't remember said friends ever objectifying women in the ways you mentioned.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:36 AM
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First off, I certainly don't appreciate your assertion that I said objectification "doesn't exist". It absolutely exists. If you choose to define 'sexual objectification' as commenting on "fuckability", 'hottness', or "damn, that chick has huge tits" (as /u/thro_way mentioned), then sexual objectification is rampant throughout the entire male world... and the female world. In other words, the human world. If you instead define 'sexual objectification' how your link does, as “the act of treating …
/r/MensRights21/07/13 07:02 PM
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I personally am saying that it's rare because by the definition that I shared a person would have to deny that a person has dignity and solely treat them as an object. If you define 'objectify'/'objectification' differently, I may certainly agree with your statement.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 06:44 PM
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objectify (v) 1. to make something (such as an abstract idea) possible to be perceived by the senses 2. to treat as something objectively real 3. to treat as a mere object and deny the dignity of I'm going to guess it's the third definition. Based on that, I think objectification is extremely rare; to deny the dignity of a person is quite a strong concept. EDIT: If 'sexual objectification' is defined as "viewing an individual as an object1 only useful for sexual gratification", which does fit th…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 04:39 PM
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The idea that /u/AndyAndrophile is basically just 'ignore the trolls'.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 05:18 PM
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OH! Wow, okay, so that definitely changes what I thought about it, and definitely drives my point. Thanks for chiming in, and for sharing.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 03:02 PM
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I don't think it's being implied that it was emotionally a "big deal". It's the idea that they still raped him. And he wouldn't be waking up in colds sweats and fearing women because he wasn't threatened or traumatized (apparently). Plus, if he feels that women can't rape men, logically he may believe that women can't overpower men either, so he wouldn't worry be scared (E: see /u/peachgloss's reply) about it. Of course, these ideas are just hypothetical. (And isn't it weird that one of the firs…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 08:44 AM
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Depends on if it's actually offensive or not. If it is, sure.
/r/MensRights07/07/13 03:36 AM
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/r/mensrights very regularly talks about social perceptions and assumptions/accusations of misogyny. It is relevant to Men's Rights because it's defending the gender from those making accusations against it.
/r/MensRights07/07/13 02:19 AM
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Not to defend the party-crashers in this thread, but sumo wrestlers aren't exactly fighters as much as wrestlers... the difference is only important because MechPlasma was referring to martial-arts-ish fighters.
/r/MensRights07/07/13 02:16 AM
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If there was fantasy misandry in a videogame, wouldn't you jump to and create a fuss? Well that's the difference between you and I; even if we assume that Mortal Combat is actually misogynistic, it's so utterly mild that it's pointless to make a "fuss", or even really make a point about it.
/r/MensRights07/07/13 02:14 AM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 01:35 AM
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Guess what buddy, a guy doesn't need 'sources' to formulate a thought, or an argument. No, of course not, but if you want to make an argument that actually shows anything, provide a source or it just sounds like you're pulling it straight out of your ass. Only Post Modern morons think appeals to authority are anything but a logical fallacy. What part of saying that you should provide a source for the initial assumption of an argument makes it an appeal to authority? Could you please show me at w…
/r/MensRights17/06/13 04:31 AM
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10 Things to Do if You Know Your Girlfriend Is Cheating RUN! Nothing you can do! Hit the Gym Get a Lawyer Delete Facebook 4 Things to Do if You Think Your Girlfriend Is Cheating Try to improve where you find yourself slipping in your relationship Take time for self-reflection Ask
/r/MensRights14/06/13 06:20 AM
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While I am just overwhelmed by sources that you provided, I have to wonder how it is that people can make such chastising assumptions about people solely based on what group they side with.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 12:37 AM
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I didn't read 'South' at the beginning, thought it was referring to the continent, and just went BULLSHIT! But I reread the 'South'; I could see that happening.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 02:35 PM
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I love that episode! If only it was relevant though.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 03:34 AM
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when the "bad actions" of some feminists can basically describe the actions of just about every feminist organization What level of "bad" would this be, exactly? I only ask because there could be a variety of approaches to this. I truly ask this without any negative intent, but as you specified "just about every feminist organization", can you provide some examples of what actions are bad that "about every" feminist organization does? when those actions are informed by a misandrist ideology, I t…
/r/MensRights01/06/13 09:51 PM
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This is more of a response to /u/theozoph's comment, but it is intended for you. One of my issues with this subreddit, people who pick sides of the feminist/MRA clash on reddit, and many people that I hear talking about gender issues is that a huge amount of arguments that are against one side are just so fallacious. /u/theozoph's comment is a very easy example of the pervasive issue among MRAs; simply because they see some feminists acting unjustly/wrongly, all feminists are wrong and believe t…
/r/MensRights01/06/13 06:48 PM
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You are most certainly correct!
/r/MensRights01/06/13 06:06 PM
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Not really? That's why lawyers exist[, and that's why they're provided if one cannot afford one.] Only for criminal cases, not this case Law and it's execution are complex by definition. Not to say that you were, but I hear people complain about how complex the law is and how that's unfair. It's only bad if you can't get a lawyer. The law should be complex; complexity allows it to keep things more in line.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 03:54 PM
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I thought this was already covered? It is logical, it's just oversimplified. This is a concept that is commonly referred to, but this woman decided to simplify it to the point that it sounds ridiculous... coercion. Regardless of if you reside in Canada or not, I think Canada's criminal code defines consent very well with coercion in mind: “consent” means [...] the voluntary agreement of the complainant to engage in the sexual activity in question. -Criminal Code, RSC 1985, c C-46, §273.1(1) When…
/r/MensRights24/05/13 06:14 PM
1

Semi-off topic: After the crime, Misner moved to the Portland, Ore., area and was arrested on an unrelated matter. He was eventually brought back to Creek County where he is being held on a $750,000 bond on charges of burglary, rape and lewd molestation. He has waived a preliminary hearing and is awaiting a trial date. I read this and assumed Misner was the guy who was originally arrested (Braden) and thought "Well that's a terrible ending..." before realizing I screwed up the names.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 01:19 PM
1

This reminds me of politics in America. Instead of working to provide solutions, they just say "no" to everything that either party proposes. As a result, more people are poor, their conditions worsen, and suddenly then they blame EVERYTHING on the government. Their follower base increases, so they can do more nothing and suck more money from their followers. FTFY
/r/MensRights24/04/13 05:49 PM
3

I didn't know you could be pregnant on your shoulder.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 09:42 AM
1

Definitely agree.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 04:01 AM
1

There isn't a standard for coercion, there's a definition. There can be a standard for the severity of coercion necessary to justify an accusation of rape, but that is more subjective.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 06:34 PM
1

What exactly are you talking about? I was asking if what he did could have been coercion, no one mentioned his sentiments on wanting to stay or not in this comment chain.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 05:19 PM
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Ah, gotcha. Y'all are right. I was thinking of the act of choosing to do something as consent, thus coercion would be nonconsenting consent, but mine was not a very accurate definition.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 01:29 PM
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Doesn't coercion fall under that, though?
/r/MensRights11/03/13 12:49 PM
1

So, this one? It's a pretty standard staple of /r/MensRights at this point
/r/MensRights10/03/13 12:22 PM
5

Psychopathy actually is the correct term. Wiki article I believe /u/notheanix is correct.
/r/MensRights03/03/13 03:46 PM
2

"A lot needs to be said." Seeing as he's being interviewed, that seemed like a good time. Joking aside, I certainly agree. I would hate for an injustice like the one Hardin describes to happen, but looking at the evidence, we don't know yet. Both sides provide entirely contradictory claims, and the only known third parties involved have declined comment.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 01:37 PM
0

Ah, alright. I first asked if you meant that something becomes a gender rights issue simply because other people might view it as a gender rights issue, as opposed to evidence showing that it is in fact a GR issue. This is in reply to: Go and mace a woman for similar reasons and then tell me this is not a gender rights issue from your FPMIA prison cell. My point was that the original event is not necessarily a GR issue just because you could be treated unfairly after the fact. IF the video inclu…
/r/MensRights25/01/13 09:21 PM
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Before we proceed, could you explain what part of my comment was nonsensical?
/r/MensRights25/01/13 07:35 PM
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....so you're saying that it's a gender rights issue because other people could say it's a gender rights issue? You just added additional variables to the situation; it is no longer the same situation.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 07:28 PM
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Stepping in front of her while she's actually making a transaction, as opposed to shuffling through her purse.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 07:22 PM
6

He didn't cut in line, he let the guy know what he wanted.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 06:34 PM
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If he thinks she's a joke, I agree with him.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 04:20 PM
17

All he did was laugh and tell a few jokes, all of which were lighthearted. Still, this isn't really a MR issue. There isn't much tangible gender inequality.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 04:15 PM
1

Oh, well doesn't that make it less offensive! ....wait.... no, it doesn't.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 12:50 AM
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Nope, but so far I'm not a big fan.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 08:14 PM
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While I think the knife block is funny, the name completely reverses it and turns it into an offensive and hateful joke. Where I disagree is this author is in his/her reaction. Of course, if you are a man, then you are probably a mentally-disordered homosexual sadist of some sort, who likes the idea of stabbing men. You're sick. You're nasty. That is who you are. Do you like snuff movies too? Probably. Know thyself, Brother. The first line, particularly calling any and all men who might purchase…
/r/MensRights12/01/13 08:01 PM
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Slightly OT, but what kind of site is this? I've never come across one like this.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 07:50 PM
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No need to provide a link, just keep perpetuating those accusations.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 05:32 PM
9

Fine. Noah didn't like my doll. And some kids laughed. Toys are for everyone. That's everything the kid said. Nothing about that would surprise me, coming from a six year old. I think you're reading way too far into it.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 02:40 AM
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You can assume whatever you want, that certainly doesn't make you right.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 02:16 AM
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Maybe OP thought it was a nice story.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 12:29 AM
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