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10

Just ignore it, most men aren't getting laid regardless
/r/MensRights10/11/24 05:20 PM
6

Ifs a great video and why we need young men to vote together in this election and make some noise
/r/MensRights31/10/24 10:14 AM
18

Ignore women in general
/r/MensRights31/10/24 10:13 AM
1

In
/r/MensRights04/10/24 04:29 PM
17

I 100% agree. I've been alone so long I've grown bitter and unable to even have a relationship
/r/MensRights03/10/24 10:43 PM
2

I mean they literally can, are you denying that?
/r/MensRights09/09/24 04:11 PM
3

Yes it is. At the very least any woman can get a boyfriend whenever she feels like.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 10:26 AM
8

They have no choice because any alternative explanation puts some fault on the behavior and choices of women
/r/MensRights29/08/24 05:12 AM
0

Because you're not having kids
/r/MensRights02/08/24 03:55 AM
1

The dhali lhama being racist doesn't make it ok
/r/MensRights02/08/24 02:16 AM
-5

....I was just saying the reality of how men get judged, didn't say i agreed with it
/r/MensRights02/08/24 02:15 AM
-1

Yea white people are perfect 🙄 Do yourself a favor and realize how this sounds. "I'm not racist the black people actually are just criminals " is not going to help your point of view.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 05:55 PM
-2

There are also white immigrants. That gets ignored. If you don't like immigrants ok but if you specifically don't like black and brown immigrants that's simply racist
/r/MensRights01/08/24 03:30 PM
1

I think this is a foolish perspective. Maybe its because of the image you have in your head of a civil war as a traditional hot war and it wouldn't necessarily be like that but as more men have nothing to live for things are going to get more unstable and that can lead anywhere. Hell, if trump was actually assassinated like he almost was that very easily could have lesd to some serious issues. If not a formal civil war, massive unrest and violence
/r/MensRights01/08/24 10:22 AM
7

This is ignorant. Record numbers of men are sexless now and that numbers is growing. If you're hot its never been easier, if you're not its never been worse
/r/MensRights01/08/24 10:19 AM
-3

Was with you until the "substitution of white people " Nobofy is stopping whites from having kids but them. And white immigrants also exist. This stupid racist element to the problem where whites complain about being replaced has to stop.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 10:16 AM
-20

To be fair, society doesn't really have an issue with the men who just passively accept their lot in life and give up. Its more based on the attitude, the bitter and angry guys.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 10:12 AM
2

I think the problem comes with being chronically single like so many men are today
/r/MensRights02/07/24 10:14 AM
1

Thanks for clarifying. A woman with inflated standards could still be a good person you'd want to be with. Her standards simply prevent that
/r/MensRights30/06/24 01:59 PM
1

Of course they get dick pics but there's plenty of men not doing that too. Do they not count as good options because some other men send dicks?
/r/MensRights30/06/24 01:04 PM
1

What do you mean why? You're supposed to find someone similar to you and be happy with it. Most men will happily do that, its women who want a relatively hot guy or nobody at all despite being completely mediocre themselves
/r/MensRights29/06/24 11:45 AM
1

It is not fucked up for women. They have many options but often unrealistic standards such that they don't pick any of them
/r/MensRights29/06/24 11:43 AM
3

I've worked on myself a lot. The dating market is just too fucked up
/r/MensRights28/06/24 05:41 PM
0

Invisible unattractive men denying attention will change nothing. Chad/Tyrone/jose/Ahmed/Zhang denying attention would have an impact
/r/MensRights27/06/24 06:57 PM
6

Most lonely men would take whatever they can get, but nobody is interested. The "1 or 3/10" woman usually would rather be single than get with a 1 or 3/10 man. The man that hasn't been laid in years would happily take her but SHE doesn't want HIM. That's the problem right now
/r/MensRights27/06/24 04:27 PM
15

Lol. How are men with no options supposed to be pickier? What difference would it make
/r/MensRights27/06/24 02:05 PM
7

That's completely plausible. And then we're supposed to feel bad for her? Men who complain about dating get told to shut up and improve themselves. So same to her. If she wants a top guy, be a top woman or shut the fuck up
/r/MensRights25/05/24 03:09 AM
14

Her standards are at least top 10%
/r/MensRights24/05/24 10:57 PM
70

She doesn't want men to pursue her, she wants CHAD to pursue her. That's the entire problem, they're all waiting for a 1% man
/r/MensRights24/05/24 10:55 PM
1

Good to know some women still value those things, but seems increasingly rare.
/r/MensRights15/05/24 11:27 PM
1

Women only care about confidence and boldness if they find you attractive
/r/MensRights02/05/24 10:40 AM
2

Wrong interpretation
/r/MensRights10/04/24 09:01 PM
0

?
/r/MensRights10/04/24 04:13 PM
2

A nation of incels doesn't really care either way. Go cry ri Chad who you're actually fucking
/r/MensRights10/04/24 10:42 AM
1

Most would eventually find someone after years of constant rejection. Not even sure about that. But if you have to endure constant rejection for years, you basically aren't wanted
/r/MensRights04/04/24 11:11 PM
3

I think people are aftaid to acknowledge this out of fear of the implications. But reality is going to bite us if we don't acknowledge it and address it
/r/MensRights04/04/24 10:24 AM
7

I didn't say you need to own a home to get sex. I'm saying the main need for a home is to raise a family. If you aren't going to have a family, most men will not bother breaking their back to live in a house alone. And with sex, the point is that sex is a motivation. Men get good jobs so they have money so that women will like them. If you're going to be an incel either way, most men don't have the incentive to do any of that
/r/MensRights03/04/24 11:13 PM
-11

I think most men try, fail and give up. They'll say "its not worth it" and its not. But that doesn't mean they actually had options anyway. Most of them don't
/r/MensRights03/04/24 11:04 PM
7

Dude be real. Men want to have sex. That's why they used to get with women but women aren't interested anymore. Don't pretend like its a choice for these men
/r/MensRights03/04/24 09:29 PM
7

Incels don't need houses. Shocking. Almost like women and family are the primary motivation for men's economic participation and consumption
/r/MensRights03/04/24 09:28 PM
12

Women in real life have lost their minds too. I have friends irl who make videos online saying shit. Its the same thing, online is no longer some fringe thing. It is the same as real life
/r/MensRights03/04/24 10:24 AM
2

Fully agree, guys shouldn't get with desperate women that aren't attracted to them but let's be honest many will
/r/MensRights26/03/24 11:29 PM
1

There aren't enough chads. But its not like every man is a chad or a simp. There are regular joe blows who don't fit either category that women can choose
/r/MensRights26/03/24 10:43 AM
2

Most men are not getting younger women. Most men are struggling for whoever they can get. Theres plenty of options for women regardless of how old they are
/r/MensRights26/03/24 10:41 AM
3

Best answer
/r/MensRights25/03/24 10:33 AM
2

There's enough desperate men that as long as she isn't fat there will be decent options. And sometimes even if she is fat
/r/MensRights25/03/24 10:27 AM
5

Women don't have to settle for simps. Any woman with reasonable standards has many non simp options too
/r/MensRights24/03/24 09:59 PM
3

They don't have to, any woman with realistic standards can get a solid non simp.
/r/MensRights24/03/24 09:58 PM
4

Drop the mic
/r/MensRights24/03/24 04:19 PM
25

There's way too many simps, women will never be alone. And its just a rock and a hard place. Being alone and celibate fucking sucks so men will crack and take a willing woman once they're desperate enough
/r/MensRights24/03/24 04:12 PM
1

Because women and society at large don't want to admit theres a problem
/r/MensRights24/03/24 04:08 PM
2

🙄
/r/MensRights08/03/24 11:12 PM
5

Its reality. Most women only want the top men. If she's not genuinely attracted and excited to be with you it's not worth it.
/r/MensRights08/03/24 11:26 AM
14

Spot on. It doesn't make sense to work more than you need to if all you need money for is to entertain yourself
/r/MensRights08/03/24 03:02 AM
15

Life is pretty cheap if you give up on women and are minimalistic
/r/MensRights08/03/24 02:57 AM
8

Ifs not worth it unless you're in the top % of men
/r/MensRights08/03/24 02:47 AM
1

Better than nothing
/r/MensRights06/03/24 02:07 AM
3

Women "alone" still have options for sex and simps. Its a very different experience than an alone man
/r/MensRights05/03/24 11:36 AM
6

Yea I was just its not about hurting the pride of these women, these don't want these men they don't care.
/r/MensRights18/02/24 07:32 PM
110

No because these are men they do not want. The reason is that the misery of those men gets them off, so if those men find happiness it makes the women who don't even want them angry
/r/MensRights18/02/24 07:11 PM
4

It is if that's what you want and find someone good to do it with. Doing it just because is a terrible idea
/r/MensRights18/02/24 07:09 PM
27

No it hasn't. For most modern history women didn't have a billion guys to pick from. This is a new situation
/r/MensRights16/02/24 10:53 PM
157

Women aren't single the way men are single. Single women have options as soon as they don't want to be single. Most single men have zero options
/r/MensRights16/02/24 08:00 PM
0

Even that, you'd have to go up to basically every woman who even looks single. Its kind of pathetic to throw yourself at every woman tbh
/r/MensRights14/02/24 01:42 AM
2

What bar has 100s of single women in it?
/r/MensRights13/02/24 10:07 PM
3

Mgtow is mega cope
/r/MensRights13/02/24 04:52 PM
18

A lot of men have absolutely no standards, let alone reasonablr standards. Its women that are causing the problem by only wanting the top men
/r/MensRights13/02/24 03:54 PM
19

Your average man struggles to even get a date. He would 100% commit if any remotely decent woman was interested. We need to stop pretending every man is Chad. Mosr men are desperately hoping to find one girl
/r/MensRights13/02/24 03:38 PM
14

Yup. But now we have to accept 100s of rejections and possibly years of struggle and if we don't we're weak. Ok
/r/MensRights13/02/24 03:36 PM
7

I believe it, but it ultimately doesn't matter when the vast majority of women go for the same guys
/r/MensRights13/02/24 03:35 PM
19

It works in the sense that any woman with reasonable standards can find whatever she's looking for.
/r/MensRights13/02/24 03:34 PM
86

Dating apps make it worse but the real problem is the standards women have such that most men are invisible. It really doesn't matter if you're rejected on an app or not. You're rejected either way
/r/MensRights13/02/24 11:45 AM
39

Nobody ever knew how to flirt. Our fathers didn't have anything we don't. The only difference is women were much more reasonable and open to average men. The problem is female standards. Until that changes dating is a lost cause for most men. I went to a speed dating event a few days ago, and it was the same shit of all the matches going to the same guys. It doesn't matter that it was real life.
/r/MensRights13/02/24 11:44 AM
50

It works for women if they have reasonable standards
/r/MensRights13/02/24 11:41 AM
1

I'm 32 and it doesn't get better. Go to Mexico to find someone when you're older
/r/MensRights08/02/24 11:57 PM
23

Its definitely happened before, just not in relatively modern western societies. The results are usually a lot more instability and violence
/r/MensRights01/02/24 03:04 PM
82

This is an uncomfortable truth that society at large seems hell bent on ignoring until its too late. Men without prospects for marriage and families don't have anywhere close to the same motivation and incentive to work. Single men just don't need nearly as much money if they only need to pay for their own interests. Its going to be a big problem going forward. I think the plan is immigration and AI but that will only go so far.
/r/MensRights01/02/24 11:32 AM
31

They hated him for he spake the truth
/r/MensRights26/01/24 08:39 PM
1

Yea this is reality. I resigned to just being alone cause this is the reality of it out there.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 04:27 AM
2

Nailed it
/r/MensRights22/01/24 11:43 PM
3

Men who no woman is ever attracted to no matter what they do are invisible
/r/MensRights06/01/24 09:32 PM
2

Nobody said you should simp. Nobody said to be mopy or depressed. The point is that they don't give a shit of what the invisible men are doing either way.
/r/MensRights06/01/24 09:12 PM
2

........no it doesn't. Those men just stay single and ignored. Women don't care if men they don't like go away
/r/MensRights06/01/24 08:53 PM
2

Most men are invisible to women, they're never going to be chased unless we purposely set-up society in a way that makes them more attractive. There are too many good men who can afford families that women completely ignore to believe that's the problem. The problem is fundamentally average women don't want average men unless you set up society to make it happen
/r/MensRights06/01/24 08:31 PM
2

You can't defeat human biology. Nothing is going to make men that can't get women happy. Having those physical and emotional needs go unmet your entire life, never having a family etc is simply not a good life for most men. Instead of trying to convince or gaslight them otherwise, we need to be honest about the situation. We then need to fix society so that so many men aren't doomed to be single their entire lives. Starting valuing family and marriage again, gender roles, banning dating apps and…
/r/MensRights06/01/24 06:08 PM
16

Its a very serious issue that is largely ignored
/r/MensRights24/12/23 04:48 PM
16

The desire for sex and women isn't brainwashing, its actually the most natural and strongest desire we are inherently born with. The exact opposite of brainwashing. Its also the most fulfilling and meaningful part of life for most men. Most average men don't have any great career or any special talents and hobbies. The foundation of their lives are their families, which provide love, support, companionship, meaning, and also just something to do that serves people you care about. It is a huge co…
/r/MensRights23/12/23 03:58 PM
38

I think you're wrong to say men are happy being lonely virgins. Yes, with no other choice men are making the most with what they can but male sucide and depression and other signs of despair are rising. Its ok to admit men are struggling and have chosen to essentially not play a rigged game. But they aren't happy
/r/MensRights23/12/23 03:13 PM
3

That's because black women usually don't have other options but when they do they very often prefer it
/r/MensRights13/12/23 02:46 AM
3

I don't like fat single moms and that's all I can get
/r/MensRights13/12/23 01:47 AM
0

Its jbe for black women too
/r/MensRights13/12/23 01:13 AM
3

They'll find some Chad donor and be single moms
/r/MensRights13/12/23 01:08 AM
4

ki now plenty still do, but the amount of men who no longer are or even have any hope of it is a problem. I also didn't say men can't be happy with a woman, I said they aren't going to be motivated. But yes, very few men are happy alone without ever even having sex, which requires women. We can't deny that . Even you yourself just admitted your kid motivates you. That's true for a lot of men. And if those men no longer have kids, they're more likely to float around in life without much motivatio…
/r/MensRights12/12/23 01:15 PM
5

A lot of men aren't going to have kids anymore and they aren't going to have anything to motivate them like you do
/r/MensRights12/12/23 11:22 AM
6

Inkwell is meant to mock people that call men incels constantly for every single think.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 12:06 PM
12

Thank you for this post. Society is very toxic on this issue and gaslighting men like crazy. We need more honesty about the situation exactly like this. Only thing I'd disagree with is 'self improve for yourself bro'. That's nonsense. If you are going to be single either way, you don't need to hit the gym or obsess about money. Just do whatever personally makes you happy. I stopped lifting cause I don't enjoy it and I'm doing a lower paying job since I have low expenses as a single man. It works…
/r/MensRights08/12/23 11:59 AM
54

You're not allowed to talk about this op you'll get called a misogynist incel
/r/MensRights04/12/23 11:45 AM
100

Crazy the lack of empathy for men(Asian or not) who are lonely and hopeless. Of course these men are more likely to turn to some not so great sources to cope and release their frustration
/r/MensRights04/12/23 11:43 AM
2

I'm 32 and I'm a NEET
/r/MensRights02/12/23 03:05 PM
46

Because there are women who give guys a chance even if they aren't attracted to them. It doesn't work out
/r/MensRights19/11/23 05:11 PM
1

Yea its not true, people just say that because they don't want to say men are fucked
/r/MensRights17/11/23 02:22 AM
61

Men shouldn't bother with these apps. Especially don't pay for them
/r/MensRights07/11/23 11:44 AM
2

But he was still married to her, I meant at least you won't literally get nothing
/r/MensRights30/10/23 02:45 PM
15

Just become a billionaire and it won't matter!
/r/MensRights30/10/23 10:45 AM
2

Why would anyone give a fuck what she thinks
/r/MensRights05/10/23 01:08 AM
1

Ugh, why
/r/MensRights30/09/23 10:25 AM
1

As opposed to what
/r/MensRights30/09/23 04:10 AM
1

It is. For the vast majority of people a woman and the resulting family is the most meaningful and fulfilling aspect of their lives. If not that, what the hell would it be? Work?
/r/MensRights29/09/23 04:27 AM
3

The copers think life is about being alone and fishing. Its so fucking stupid. By far and away the most meaningful and fulfilling aspect of most people's lives is their family, aka wife and children. Anyone denying this is simply delusional
/r/MensRights29/09/23 04:26 AM
1

Jesus christ the cope. The vast majority of people only mean something to their families. You don't mean shit to your job or even to your friends. Your life partner and your children are the only people who will ever truly care about you because of your importance in their lives.
/r/MensRights29/09/23 04:23 AM
2

Marriage and kids are the norm across almost every culture in the world. Absolutely nonsense to say its cultural when most different cultures have it in common. Because this is at the very root of human nature
/r/MensRights29/09/23 04:21 AM
2

Thank you. Anyone denying this coping hard
/r/MensRights29/09/23 04:20 AM
27

Because for most men the problem right now is they're lonely and want women
/r/MensRights28/09/23 11:02 AM
4

They're choosing AI girlfriends over nobody
/r/MensRights27/09/23 04:31 PM
3

They don't care about men
/r/MensRights27/09/23 04:27 PM
1

Find a happily married man and ask him what his wife and family are worth. I'm pretty sure he'll say its worth way more than the stuff men are complaining about. Similarly, ask a lonely old man with no family if his hobbies and friends make up for it. Doubt it
/r/MensRights26/09/23 11:28 PM
2

Most men naturally want to have sex and companionship with a woman. Very obviously the case. There are exceptions but its pretty silly to deny this
/r/MensRights26/09/23 05:21 PM
9

You're still going to miss the close intimate relationships that a family provides with people that actually care about you. I don't know why so many men think otherwise. There's a reason the vast majority of men have chosen to get married and have families
/r/MensRights26/09/23 03:26 AM
5

Good for you but thats not normal. Most men are not going to be happy single and likely sexless for a decade. Most men want women and families
/r/MensRights26/09/23 03:23 AM
3

The difference is whether you live alone
/r/MensRights26/09/23 03:22 AM
20

Exactly, the reward is no longer worth it. A lot of men are not bothering anymore
/r/MensRights25/09/23 11:54 PM
9

You can go mgtow but that's not a good thing. It's a lonely shit life too
/r/MensRights25/09/23 11:53 PM
116

Been saying this for years op. In order to find someone good, whether you're a man or a woman, you need a lot of options and play the numbers game. Most women can do that. Most men cannot. Most men either take the first or second woman that gives them a chance or dies alone
/r/MensRights25/09/23 08:36 PM
20

Men are not the gatekeepers of anything. You can't have a relationship without sex so women control both
/r/MensRights25/09/23 08:33 PM
1

Lonely men really are supposed to just shut the fuck up with no outlet i guess. I don't see why this can't be a space for them
/r/MensRights16/09/23 11:19 PM
2

Asian women really like white guys
/r/MensRights16/09/23 03:41 AM
1

Loneliness. It sucks being alone
/r/MensRights27/08/23 04:30 PM
-5

Terrible experience but this isn't even close to the norm
/r/MensRights23/08/23 10:29 AM
-32

Its 100% false. At most some men aren't getting legally married cause of bad laws but the only men not dating at all are the ones who can't or who have given up cause its too hard
/r/MensRights23/08/23 05:22 AM
2

Pastacel for Italians or something like that. Idk Vietnamese. Phocel
/r/MensRights03/08/23 06:08 PM
5

Its not racist, there are cels for everything. Indians are currycels
/r/MensRights03/08/23 03:25 PM
1

Its not a competition
/r/MensRights03/08/23 03:24 PM
2

Indians are currycel
/r/MensRights03/08/23 03:23 PM
29

Woman good. Man bad
/r/MensRights29/07/23 09:20 PM
2

But it is a need. Some people have this draconian definition of need as 'something you will literally die without ". By that definition the only needs are bare minimum food and water and possibly clothes/ heat in a cold climate. That's it. The actual, realistic definition of need is "without which life becomes very unpleasant and difficult to enjoy." By this definition, the real definition, things like human contact, friends, relationships, sex clearly meet the criteria. And its true. Without se…
/r/MensRights27/07/23 05:52 PM
2

I think trying to defy such a basic part of humanity can't work. We need other solutions that help these needs get met rather than denial
/r/MensRights27/07/23 12:26 PM
4

In the ideal world you're correct but the reality sex and women are too important to living an enjoyable and fulfilling life for this to really change.
/r/MensRights27/07/23 10:52 AM
11

I actually think this is changing now and society is trying to convince all these men that life is awesome despite being alone and sexless. Men aren't buying it. We understand how this actually works
/r/MensRights27/07/23 03:31 AM
1

Only if you're attractive
/r/MensRights26/07/23 10:29 AM
2

Those women should improve themselves. If men don't want them its their fault. They must suck and its their fault
/r/MensRights26/07/23 10:27 AM
40

Its allowed if you're attractive
/r/MensRights26/07/23 01:44 AM
4

Great answer
/r/MensRights22/07/23 11:07 AM
2

Its sad, but the truth is probably too painful. So many men are legitimately going to be alone their entire lives and that's a tough pill to swallow. I actually think society is in big trouble when more men realize that this fantasy of things getting better never happens.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 10:53 AM
1

Yup. And even if she goes with a simp, she'll have plenty of them to choose from. Dating is just completely fucked and we need to be honest about it and its implications
/r/MensRights19/07/23 10:51 AM
1

These lonely men need to believe in something. Otherwise, things get ugly. When these mgtow/ redpill/ other men who think things are going to change are disappointed later in life in masse, I think society is going to have serious problems dealing with the fallout
/r/MensRights19/07/23 10:33 AM
2

That's the point, those women are getting sex and attention no problem. Whereas as a ton of men will still be going without at those ages, because the women still have too many options
/r/MensRights19/07/23 05:07 AM
1

This is a complete lie. Men are so thirst and so desperate, women still have way more options after 30. All these men who have been alone their entire lives aren't getting less thirsty. They will jump at the chance for these older women. That's what they've been waiting for
/r/MensRights19/07/23 04:13 AM
7

Women have a lot of options and would rather be single than with a man who isn't one of the top guys. That's all it is
/r/MensRights19/07/23 04:06 AM
1

I don't give a fuck if you're in shape. Ugly men who are in shape aren't fucking 27 year old women when they're 40. Those women are fucking younger chads by and large. The amount of money it takes to get significantly younger women is not realistic for the vast majority of men. And even if it was, I have no clue why red pill thinks goldiggers are so desirable The red pill needs to be more honest..most men aren't going to get those results
/r/TheRedPill17/07/23 05:45 PM
5

Because women aren't attracted to most men so it seems disgusting to suggest those men deserve love
/r/MensRights17/07/23 05:42 PM
5

That's rare. It happens, but the vast majority of men who struggle with women are not going to be the ones fucking 27 yr olds when they're 40. Red pill is very delusional about this
/r/TheRedPill16/07/23 09:26 PM
-1

No he doesn't. A dude who starts looking at 37 is way worse off than if he starts at 27
/r/TheRedPill16/07/23 05:24 PM
3

Obviously asking this on this forum you'll get a certain bias. Personally, I'm early 30s with almost no dating experience and it sucks. I think getting old single with no family is going to suck. My advice would be to get out there but don't force anything. You don't want to be a leftover guy who's barely dated by his 30s
/r/TheRedPill16/07/23 05:18 PM
12

Women take men's jobs then complain men are broke. How
/r/MensRights13/07/23 06:58 PM
6

You're right but it'll never happen as long as women have vaginas
/r/MensRights13/07/23 06:56 PM
1

Oh yea, I always assume everyone is from my same country but that's a big difference. What country? That type of stuff does not happen where I'm from
/r/MensRights12/07/23 10:26 AM
1

No but you're also unusual. Very few men get asked out ever let alone by dozens of women
/r/MensRights12/07/23 02:27 AM
1

Most men aren't smooth. 90% of the time women like guys because they like how they look
/r/MensRights12/07/23 02:26 AM
0

If they're regularly hooking up with different women who aren't fat, there's no way they're average looking guys. People skills and being fun doesn't matter for shit if women have no physical attraction for you. You just get friendzoned
/r/MensRights11/07/23 03:11 PM
-2

Congrats on being friends will an unusual amount of attractive guys but most single dudes don't get hookups very often. Its really only the top guys. Most single guys are starved and desperate. Anecdotally like 12/15 guys i know make 6 figures and own houses and still can't get anywhere
/r/MensRights11/07/23 10:37 AM
20

This is what happens when women only want the top guys
/r/MensRights11/07/23 03:11 AM
-27

This is cope. Its one thing not get married, its another to be single and not even dating at all. That isn't by choice for vast majority of these guys. The women don't want these men is the truth of it
/r/MensRights11/07/23 03:10 AM
29

This is so disgusting. Men really need to go on strike
/r/MensRights29/06/23 12:13 AM
7

Women don't care. They fuck the winners
/r/MensRights24/06/23 10:25 PM
6

Youre not allowed to be human and have feelings as a man
/r/MensRights20/06/23 12:41 PM
2

Didn't think of this, very true
/r/MensRights20/06/23 12:41 PM
14

This 100%. Couldn't have said it better. Its almost like a just world fallacy. 'Women aren't shallow, if you're rejected it's because on some moral level you don't deserve it. Be better. It is of course complete bullshit
/r/MensRights19/06/23 10:23 PM
11

And then they say any man that doesn't bow to the feminist overlords is an incel
/r/MensRights15/06/23 04:21 PM
4

Just stop doing online dating. I don't feel bad cause men are putting themselves in this position for no reason
/r/MensRights14/06/23 01:12 PM
7

Except his problem is likely not about "interaction " but that he's fundamentally not physically attractive enough to have a real shot
/r/MensRights11/06/23 06:18 PM
1

Therapy won't help him, he needs to get laid simple as that
/r/MensRights11/06/23 05:58 PM
1

Fuck a prostitute and then a fat chick
/r/MensRights11/06/23 05:55 PM
3

This is true since he's 23 but as he gets older it will absolutely matter. Women won't waste time with a dude with no bedroom ability
/r/MensRights11/06/23 05:54 PM
5

His brother doesn't want to be a virgin. He wants to be a human being that isn't sexually frustrated. That's understandable
/r/MensRights11/06/23 05:45 PM
5

Its extremely easy if you're not very attractive or social. I'm 2 lucky dating app swipes from being a virgin at 32
/r/MensRights11/06/23 05:44 PM
12

This is extreme cope. Never having sex causes men to even kill themselves, let alone depression
/r/MensRights11/06/23 05:40 PM
2

Buy him a prostitute
/r/MensRights11/06/23 05:36 PM
5

Wtf is this nonsense
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:19 PM
36

Jesus christ man
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:15 PM
22

I'm NEET and don't plan on changing. I'm done with society
/r/MensRights06/06/23 05:23 PM
-3

Men still on apps are retarded
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:43 AM
4

Why are you agreeing to any of this shit? Don't do this if she's so concerned with what she gets if it goes south
/r/MensRights06/06/23 10:42 AM
2

Because married parents are better for kids
/r/MensRights04/06/23 08:21 PM
2

We technically can undo it but it'll never happen
/r/MensRights04/06/23 08:20 PM
2

Because purposely being a single parent is retarded
/r/MensRights04/06/23 04:47 PM
4

You would marry if you want to have children
/r/MensRights04/06/23 12:01 PM
17

Generally I think men want women to realize getting with someone similar to themselves isn't settling.
/r/MensRights04/06/23 11:58 AM
101

Its perfect Chad or nothing for most women now
/r/MensRights03/06/23 11:03 PM
18

Men have been pacified and they just go along with this nonsense and accept it. You're completely correct of how ridiculous its gotten, society has lost its mind and men have absolutely no voice. In terms of the dating thing, they just want to silence men. They don't want tons of men pointing out how terrible it is because the implication is women are doing something wrong. Can't have that. I too think eventually things will go too far and there will be a big consequences. But not for a long tim…
/r/MensRights31/05/23 01:02 PM
1

Lol not looking for a relationship because they have given up all hope. Like me. I've stopped trying.
/r/MensRights18/05/23 05:34 PM
2

Lol dude my reddit name has nothing to do with the objective data we have about women's extreme pickiness and the resulting lonely sexless men. "Just groom yourself bro", like 63% of men who are single all of sudden forgot this basic step
/r/MensRights18/05/23 01:27 AM
3

I'm 32 and absolutely nothing has changed
/r/MensRights16/05/23 06:04 PM
8

We don't look at the entire picture because it would show that the problem is with women
/r/MensRights16/05/23 06:02 PM
2

Fuck her and move on.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 05:59 PM
5

The broken nose example is different because its a guaranteed outcome that you can easily pay for. With dating the logic doesn't apply because very few men are in a situation where something so easily attainable is guaranteed to mean they can now get women. The men giving up are not choosing to be sexless, they are simply calculating the odds are so bad they shouldn't try. That is rejection and hopelessness
/r/MensRights16/05/23 05:58 PM
4

This is completely false. Nothing compares to fucking a real woman. No need to cope. Its ok to admit a lot of men are missing out on some of the best things in life by being incel
/r/MensRights16/05/23 05:54 PM
2

I have definitely grown accustomed to be single but that doesn't mean I'm choosing to not get laid. I'm sexless because nobody wants me thats the reality
/r/MensRights16/05/23 05:52 PM
4

Thats more like men giving up though, it not choosing to be single/sexless. They are not good enough and have to get so much better its not worth it. But that's not the same as actively choosing to be alone.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 05:49 PM
5

Its not true. Men will fuck basically anything. They are turning to porn cause they can't get real women
/r/MensRights16/05/23 05:46 PM
9

"Men need to be better and self improve". They never explain why men need to be so extraordinary for ordinary women
/r/MensRights16/05/23 05:39 PM
7

Because incel has come to mean a violent misogynist instead of a man that can't get laid
/r/MensRights16/05/23 05:37 PM
3

Fucking bravo dude. This is amazing and spot on thank you
/r/MensRights16/05/23 05:36 PM
1

Because a bachelor is seen as someone unable to get any women, like a loser. Women are seen as always having options so its genuinely by choice
/r/MensRights15/05/23 12:25 PM
6

New this was going to happen
/r/MensRights09/05/23 01:19 AM
4

Porn and videogames is just blamed to put everything as mens fault yet again. The truth is despite all the very valid reasons you mentioned for why men are dumb to get married, they STILL are very willing because most men will do anything for sex. The real problem is women only want the top guys.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 05:25 PM
12

Thank god someone is thinking of the women. Their refusal to pick men for character and not their wallet is men's fault
/r/MensRights03/05/23 04:02 PM
1

I don't think so. Its irrelevant to all the men without kids
/r/MensRights01/05/23 02:39 AM
1

Most of those men aren't choosing to be single, most of those women are. Let's be honest about that.
/r/MensRights01/05/23 02:35 AM
3

Most men aren't thst pathetic
/r/MensRights27/04/23 03:08 AM
3

We're not even fucking, a lot of men are incels. I would gladly get married but nobody wants me.
/r/MensRights26/04/23 06:04 PM
26

We're all incels why would we need engagement rings
/r/MensRights26/04/23 02:44 AM
1

I've not personally been but I know people that have
/r/MensRights25/04/23 05:35 PM
1

Spain is still the west with the same problems
/r/MensRights25/04/23 05:34 PM
4

5'8 isn't that short. I'm 5'3 and this surgery is the only way I have a chance of not dying alone
/r/MensRights24/04/23 11:22 PM
1

Because its literally repulsive to them from a biological/genetic standpoint. Like a disease they don't want to catch
/r/MensRights24/04/23 04:41 PM
1

Eastern countries don't like black people
/r/MensRights24/04/23 04:40 PM
3

5'8 is pretty average, plus as you said you're attractive. I'm 5'3 and its impossible
/r/MensRights24/04/23 12:38 PM
7

Most short men are struggling right now. There are exceptions but that's not the majority
/r/MensRights24/04/23 12:36 PM
10

No because it's a filter that you either pass or you don't. You don't get the time of day to even overcome anything because you get zero attention
/r/MensRights24/04/23 11:03 AM
35

I'm 5'3, honestly I understand why guys are doing this. Being short can basically ruin your life unless you're happy being alone.
/r/MensRights24/04/23 10:51 AM
18

Why do short men do so much worse on dating apps if women didn't think it was a big deal
/r/MensRights24/04/23 10:50 AM
3

Love Scott Galloway, one of the few voices really talking about it but even he doesn't get it. Women's standards are the problem. It has gotten out of control. Average women expect superman. That is the problem
/r/MensRights20/04/23 05:17 PM
14

Its over for men in America.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 04:08 PM
1

Actually yes. Scary to compare
/r/MensRights14/04/23 03:43 PM
6

What is the argument for why the average man should work? Homeownership and women/family are out of reach. Wtf else is the point?
/r/MensRights14/04/23 01:23 PM
1

Working for the sake of it makes no sense
/r/MensRights14/04/23 01:21 PM
1

Don't do it op. For one thing it might not even work. If height is such a deal breaker for these dumb women, move on in life. I'm 5'3 and just moving forward alone in life
/r/MensRights05/04/23 02:26 PM
1

Confidence doesn't change a damn thing for many of us. I'm 31, how old are you? I've tried everything in the book and its never made a difference so why bother.
/r/MensRights04/04/23 06:20 PM
0

Yea those things make sense for you because its what you want. But imagine I told you to do 10 things you genuinely have no interest in doing, 'for yourself'. That wouldn't make any sense, why do things you don't want to do 'for yourself '? In terms of the 'confidence ' bullshit, the entire problem right now is women's standards have gotten so crazy that men are not finding their efforts making a difference. If you get rejected no matter what you do eventually you'll stop bothering and won't car…
/r/MensRights04/04/23 06:03 PM
4

But like why? Why do those things? What do you get out of it? Most men don't care that much. The only reason they bother contributing to society is because they can get something they want from society in return. If you take that away why bother? It doesn't make sense. There's no reason to do any of the shit you're saying(outside of basic health and well being) if there's no reward for doing so.
/r/MensRights04/04/23 05:43 PM
9

Youre completely correct but it'll never happen. Society expects men to become supermen to get increasingly shitty women and its not going to change. The solution is to leave the market. Its a bad deal
/r/MensRights04/04/23 05:39 PM
0

This is like saying go to work for you and it doesnt matter if you get paid. You need to get something worthwhile for your efforts. To say 'do it for you' makes zero sense. Because a lot of men are personally content with very little. They only do more for external rewards
/r/MensRights04/04/23 05:37 PM
4

You seen the meme of "guys think this is ok" and its a small apartment with like a mini fridge and a tv and a love seat? Men don't need much to enjoy themselves. The main reason they do more is to attain things like women. That's why they bother. If its only about pleasing themselves they don't need to do nearly as much.
/r/MensRights04/04/23 05:35 PM
0

Lol. Tell a young man he's never having sex, never having a family etc but go kill himself to improve. For what? Most men are content not doing that much but they are motivated to do more for sex and women. Don't kid yourself
/r/MensRights04/04/23 05:33 PM
3

She already knows lol. Been alone my entire life
/r/MensRights30/03/23 01:54 PM
12

They don't care, they want to shit on any man they deem low value which includes single men
/r/MensRights19/03/23 10:09 PM
-4

Young people are stupid
/r/MensRights10/03/23 09:47 PM
1

This could work in college but adults usually don't meet like this too often. If you're single you can't just hope a handful of parties or random encounters like that work. Because unless you're attractive you will get rejected a ton. You need opportunity to play the numbers like that.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 01:51 PM
7

You need to be attractive. Location doesn't matter
/r/MensRights07/03/23 10:14 PM
5

Its partly of a gender thing because of the movement in many fields to specifically discriminate in favor of women. And also women that constantly say men are worthless and ignore our problems.
/r/MensRights06/03/23 01:28 PM
2

What field? I've had a similar experience
/r/MensRights06/03/23 01:25 PM
33

Men get shamed for that lol they complain if we watch a lot of porn or play videogames. Can't even enjoy those things in peace
/r/MensRights06/03/23 11:25 AM
6

Ugh yea obviously someone going for this lifestyle wouldn't live alone. These guys will get roommates. You think everyone without stable employment is homeless?You can find somewhere that will rent to you, just won't be a very nice place. But again, no shit. You seem to be assuming these guys not working are living a nice lifestyle. No. They're sluming it most likely. But it can be done absolutely.
/r/MensRights06/03/23 04:24 AM
8

Where do you live? In most places where I live you can get rent down to something like $700 a month easily with roommates. A few years ago I had 3 roommates and it was $500 a month for me. Eat cheap food. Utilities isn't thst much either. You absolutely do not need to work 60 hours just to get by with basics
/r/MensRights06/03/23 04:04 AM
232

What's the incentive to work right now? A lot of these men don't and never will have families, the jobs don't pay enough for home ownership or anything else meaningful. What's the incentive
/r/MensRights06/03/23 02:59 AM
13

Odd jobs, under the table work. Men can get by with very little if they need to.
/r/MensRights06/03/23 02:58 AM
1

This is so ridiculous. For once look at what women are doing to make it this way
/r/MensRights01/03/23 08:55 PM
7

She probably has 100 dicks she could call on command. Men are so desperate right now, don't kid yourself
/r/MensRights27/02/23 05:04 PM
0

Lol.thjs isn't what's happening. These men are starved of sex and intimacy and they're getting depressed and angry. Most of these men are not choosing this. And women don't want them either that's the problem
/r/MensRights27/02/23 05:02 PM
2

I don't think its complicated, even after all you've predicted happens they'll blame men for letting it get to that point and not stepping up. 'Where the good men gone '
/r/MensRights27/02/23 11:42 AM
3

Exactly. Most men are not materialistic, we do all thst crap ultimately for women and a potential family. If that doesn't exist many will not bother anymore
/r/MensRights25/02/23 01:23 AM
15

Why work? A lot of men in the past only worked to attract women and support their family. A lot of men are single right now so don't need to work for a house or a wife or anything. Why bother
/r/MensRights24/02/23 02:18 PM
9

They aren't wrong. Video games have gotten so good that it provides a strong alternative to working. One of the reasons I don't work right now is to play videogames
/r/MensRights24/02/23 02:17 PM
2

Eh, I think its more men being sent their way. Men that are rejected give up and say mgtow but really they weren't chosen and gave up. Not all, but the majority in my opinion
/r/MensRights23/02/23 08:07 PM
2

Yea true. Social media and dating apps are the main issues imo.
/r/MensRights23/02/23 11:29 AM
12

Can't admit those evil incels(any man that complains) might have a point
/r/MensRights23/02/23 05:39 AM
0

As more data comes in people update the number. That's what they should do
/r/MensRights22/02/23 11:03 PM
-2

No it doesn't, the women were never actually attracted to most of those men either. Women are only fundamentally attracted to like 5% of men
/r/MensRights22/02/23 10:19 PM
3

Men have always thought with our dicks. What changed is women's decision making
/r/MensRights22/02/23 10:00 PM
4

Don't blame tinder, hold women accountable for their actions. Some women used tinder to find something serious. Nobody made them ride the carousel instead
/r/MensRights22/02/23 09:51 PM
2

Ok, good for your family but 63% of men are single for a reason. Obviously isn't that they just didn't ask anyone out. I didn't count how many dude I have no fucking idea
/r/MensRights22/02/23 09:39 PM
1

They are to men they actually find attractive
/r/MensRights22/02/23 09:37 PM
4

Agree with most of this. Problem is those women who made mistakes its too little too late. Don't feel bad for them
/r/MensRights22/02/23 09:29 PM
8

Plausible but I'm telling you it's not the reality. These women are dating guys in their 20s, but only the top guys. Women right now want nothing to do with most men and that trend is only growing.
/r/MensRights22/02/23 08:15 PM
6

I agree generally. The problem is your last line, many of these men are not enjoying life like this. If they were it wouldn't matter. I know I don't enjoy this
/r/MensRights22/02/23 07:42 PM
7

Thank you so much for sharing this. Nails it in my opinion. Its why I think society is making a huge mistake not addressing this issue seriously. If we have hoards of young men with no hope of dating or anything....like that's extremely dangerous. I myself have entered into a phase of indifference, like why bother working? Whats the point anymore? We're in for some crazy times. I don't know what will happen. I think the unspoken plan is to sedate men with videogames porn and other things so they…
/r/MensRights22/02/23 07:34 PM
3

At bare minimum be part of a conversation on solutions. 'Work on yourself ' isn't a solution because women have gotten so picky no amount of work can change results for some of us
/r/MensRights22/02/23 07:25 PM
-16

I fundamentally agree with you, but the reality is there's nothing more important than having a loving relationship and a family. So if that's not worth the effort, what is? I think it becomes not worth it because the results don't improve. That's the problem. But if the effort did lead to success I think it would be worth it because there's a big difference in dying alone vs having a loving family life and sexual life
/r/MensRights22/02/23 07:22 PM
6

I disagree. I think dating apps are a big factor and we could see at less some improvement if those were banned. And even if we tackle it from another angle, in the usa these men can't even legally see a prostitute to fulfill their needs. That has to change. There's things we can do.
/r/MensRights22/02/23 07:19 PM
4

It hasn't always been this way, the reason for the article is that those numbers are way different then before. If nothing changed it wouldn't be news
/r/MensRights22/02/23 07:16 PM
4

Well thanks for the sentiment but are you willing to actually do anything to help this situation? It seems to be me everyone wants to say its impossible to fix but what have we even tried? Let's at least think if solutions together and advocate for them while there's still time.
/r/MensRights22/02/23 07:13 PM
12

Oh its a social problem by definition but i mean its not because of a social skills problem. I don't have any issues making friends. But the dating market is just so imbalanced and I'm not attractive enough to compete. That's the reality that for some reason some people are afraid to say. If you're ugly or particularly short or an ethnic minority (I'm all 3), its over.
/r/MensRights22/02/23 07:07 PM
7

I have no idea and I don't see why that matters. Onlime sceeennames don't tell you anything about a person. My screensname is because I made it when I was almost dying of covid so that's how I felt in that moment of time. Obviously thats changed. But you think I'm defined by that moment in time?
/r/MensRights22/02/23 07:05 PM
10

I am off the dating apps, for years I've been off, but I'm still alone because the dating market will be fucked up until they are regulated or banned. Even if all the guys like me leave, well we are the losers the women don't want anyway. The apps will be left with the Chads they want. What does that change?
/r/MensRights22/02/23 07:02 PM
15

I'm a millennial. All my guy friends have no social problems. Many of them have good jobs and own their own homes. Almost all of us are single regardless in our late 20s and early 30s You are ignoring the real problems out there. Retreating online is mainly the result of rejection i promise you. Maybe not gen x, but younger generations this is what's going on. I play a fuck ton of videogames to distract from the fact that I'm dying alone and haven't even had a date in years.
/r/MensRights22/02/23 06:58 PM
-26

Men are checking out more because they can't meet their standards, not because "its not worth it". Let's be honest about that.
/r/MensRights22/02/23 06:43 PM
27

Men spend time online because they have nothing else going on, way more than the other way around. If you have no chance of getting a girlfriend, why bother. Play games and watch porn by yourself.
/r/MensRights22/02/23 06:41 PM
13

No because only few men possess the genes that women actually want. 50 men is too many. You'd want the elite men to have as many kids as possible
/r/MensRights22/02/23 06:40 PM
12

Don't know what you're getting at. Me and my friends are social in real life and we're all single. That doesn't solve anything. The government could absolutely step in with something like dating apps and regulating those so they're less destructive
/r/MensRights22/02/23 06:38 PM
239

They've made those articles about women and the conclusion was there aren't enough "economically attractive " men. Be better men!
/r/MensRights22/02/23 06:36 PM
27

No shit but these women don't know the difference.
/r/MensRights22/02/23 05:37 PM
20

They're all dating the same subset of top guys at once
/r/MensRights22/02/23 05:17 PM
41

I think its willful ignorance. They know the red pill and incel community has been talking about '80-20' for so long and they don't want to validate that, even though its the most obvious explanation in front of your face.
/r/MensRights22/02/23 05:15 PM
138

Women are all fucking the same guys and think they're in relationship. The guy knows its not because he's fucking 10 of them casually
/r/MensRights22/02/23 05:02 PM
62

They're fucking the same guys
/r/MensRights22/02/23 05:01 PM
1

Thanks for the explanation, that makes more sense but I still think someone who wants a relationship should make an active effort. Generic socializing is good but can often lead nowhere if that's all you do. And it seems silly for them to just.....never make an active effort despite not getting what they want doing things passively. Its not the same for women either because women always have options. The problem for women is many are extremely picky and so they reject all of their options. But a…
/r/MensRights21/02/23 03:44 PM
1

See i disagree on that last piece. I think its dangerous to just tell men to float around and expect ' it'll just happen'. All the trends suggest its not going to happen for a very large amount of men. We have to be honest about this and prepare men for it. Otherwise, when this promised woman never shows up it'll be that much more painful for these men already in pain. I'm 31 and if I took the approach of 'it'll just happen ' I would still be waiting for my first date. I had to make an actual in…
/r/MensRights21/02/23 02:38 PM
1

Obviously its a complex issue and I personally don't have the solution but we need to at least be acknowledging the problem for how serious it is and looking for a solution. A good amount of our society is choosing to ignore this problem. And that will only keep making it worse. The % of men having sex is way down. Even the ones who do, very often fuck one drunk fat chick on one night of the year and then people like you look at the % and say its high. The amount of men with consistent healthy s…
/r/MensRights21/02/23 02:33 PM
2

I get what you mean, but I don't like the saying 'you only need 1'. If its only one, odds are overwhelming you'll never find her. You need a good amount of women to be willing to give you a chance to find a good fit. You can find people with crap personalities everywhere, not just online. So that's another myth imo. I'm trying to just move on from relationships all together. Everyone is single at some point, but I've been my entire life and I'm 31. You gotta face the music sometimes about this, …
/r/MensRights21/02/23 02:01 PM
2

I don't think that's really a thing in modern times, because if you don't pass her judgment of looks she won't care about anything else. I'm a fairly unattractive guy and the only date's I've ever been on are still from online because at least I was able to swipe on 1000s of women until pure luck intervened. In real life, there's not enough volume to do that l.
/r/MensRights21/02/23 11:31 AM
1

Male loneliness and lack of support is absolutely men's rights. And 62% as you pointed out includes up to 54 year olds who mostly aren't impacted by modern dating. The trends impacting young people look much worse, way way way more people are going to be alone going forward. 90% of men in these younger generations are not desired at all. The women only want top guys. Some will settle out of desperation but fewer will than ever before
/r/MensRights20/02/23 10:47 PM
2

The reality is women treat most men like shit regardless of where it us dude. If she doesn't find you attractive it really doesn't matter where you are. The key is be attractive. If you aren't, don't even bother
/r/MensRights20/02/23 05:48 PM
1

Yea saw this clip and was disappointed, he usually is better on this topic. The reality is women don't want to talk to most guys in real life either. They have gotten so picky they want nothing to do with 90% of us regardless if its online or real life
/r/MensRights20/02/23 05:44 PM
2

No kidding its not good but it's what many of us are dealing with it. And if we complain we're called evil misogynist incels
/r/MensRights15/02/23 07:42 PM
1

For every woman willing to marry a man with less money there are 2 who will not. Nobody is arguing EVERYONE is like this. We are arguing that based on current trends a very large amount of men are going to be alone and that's a bad thing for society for obvious reasons
/r/MensRights15/02/23 07:41 PM
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Nah, I'm old enough that its not worth it anymore. I'm done
/r/MensRights15/02/23 05:49 PM
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Nobody said everyone was sexless except 10% of men. Where are you getting that from. He's not right wing, even on this issue he has a fairl moderate conclusion which you would see if you went to the end of the video. The 2021 gss doesn't change the general trend. Which is growing numbers of incels. Women who are sexless id out of choice, men are not. Big big difference
/r/MensRights15/02/23 05:48 PM
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I don't care what they want, its about what I want. At this point I'm gonna play games and ignore all the nonsense going on
/r/MensRights15/02/23 05:27 PM
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That guy isn't right wing and he shows the evidence in the video if you bother to watch it.
/r/MensRights15/02/23 05:25 PM
1

Mostly true op. Women today don't seem to grasp this
/r/MensRights15/02/23 11:32 AM
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Starving causes death so of course someone will ultimately eat anything if it came down to it. Not the case with sex obviously. Women stay single and alone all the time if they can't meet their standards. But men effectively have no standards. They have preferences but they'll ultimately take whatever they can get. Effectively no standards if you'll ultimately take whatever you can get.
/r/MensRights15/02/23 11:28 AM
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https://youtu.be/3pEdOHRbOLY
/r/MensRights14/02/23 08:08 PM
2

How many men do you think would rather die a virgin than just take what they can get?
/r/MensRights14/02/23 05:47 PM
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Most men take whatever they can get. They don't have deal breakers unless they're one of the top guys with tons of options.
/r/MensRights14/02/23 11:56 AM
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They prefer casual with the top men than an actual relationship with an average guy
/r/MensRights14/02/23 11:53 AM
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What a shit show
/r/MensRights13/02/23 10:53 PM
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I've been in a relationship numbnuts. Please stop using the logical fallacy of attacking my person to try ri discredit my argument. Where did I say online was the be all end all? I definitely didn't. You're strawmanning the hell out of my post to avoid the very obvious things I've said
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:29 AM
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The Walmart example is so stupid. First of all the examples are usually older people who are not impacted by modern dating trends of younger people. And even then, nobody is claiming literally no man can get a woman except top 20%. The claim is that outside of the top guys its going to be extremely hard and unlikely to be worth the effort one has to put in to MAYBE find someone who is low quality. Maybe understand the argument before hurling insults. And no kidding everyone has a life outside wo…
/r/MensRights09/02/23 05:07 AM
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Chad is by definition white, Tyrone is black etc etc But yes it gets more nuanced, but in general its about 20% of men women are actually attracted to.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 01:32 AM
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Either way you are getting rejected if you don't look the part.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 08:46 PM
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Chad is like top 20% not 1%
/r/MensRights08/02/23 08:45 PM
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An angry feminist would agree with this nonsense cause they love denying reality
/r/MensRights08/02/23 08:44 PM
1

I go to the gym you idiot.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 06:43 PM
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Both. Physical attraction is required in both cases
/r/MensRights08/02/23 06:05 PM
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It doesn't matter either way. Physical attraction still is what matters most regardless. Your personality will make no difference if she isn't physically attracted to you and personality will make no difference if she is physically attracted to you, of course barring something extremely out of the ordinary.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 03:53 PM
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They should give themselves an honest assessment and if they don't fit the Chad profile they should focus on other things in life outside of women. They should be comfortable with the idea of being alone and maybe a virgin for a long time. When reality doesn't meet expectations it can get very ugly. Made me suicidal and I wish I was told the truth much sooner
/r/MensRights08/02/23 02:42 PM
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Hes discouraging false hope and setting kids up for massive disappointment. He is advocating for telling kids the truth
/r/MensRights08/02/23 02:40 PM
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Personality doesn't matter if she isn't physically attracted to you. Thats what a friend is. Someone you like but aren't physically attracted to
/r/MensRights08/02/23 02:39 PM
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Youre doing a lot of work to avoid calling out hamza
/r/MensRights08/02/23 02:38 PM
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Absolutely spot on. Those guys are selling snake oil and giving false hope to a lot of guys. It won't end well. Men need the truth, not this nonsense
/r/MensRights08/02/23 02:36 PM
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This was fucking hilarious. This stuff is going mainstream
/r/MensRights08/02/23 02:31 PM
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This has to be a joke. Having a pet is not remotely comparable to a wife and a son. I know white western women have convinced themselves of that, but no. That's a psychotic thing to even say. Same with 'just be gay bro ' or whatever. If this is how society thinks, we're headed for some rough times cause this shit isn't going to fly
/r/MensRights05/02/23 05:41 AM
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You're beating around the bush again. Mens spaces can't make up for not having intimate relationships with women or family.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 03:20 AM
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This is nonsense. Family is the most basic fundamental building block of a fulfilling life. Stop with this nonsense trying to work around that. Societies structure themselves around family formation for a reason. Its really the only thing powerful enough to keep men check. They have something to live for and something to lose if society falls apart. Without this incentive bad things are going to happen. And no amount of gaslighting or mental gymnastics is going to make men ok with this
/r/MensRights05/02/23 03:18 AM
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This won't change the fact that men needs still have to be met for them to be happy and fulfilled.
/r/MensRights04/02/23 07:26 PM
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Most of the high value men do end up settling down even now but only after fucking 1000 women and ruining the dating market for everyone else
/r/MensRights04/02/23 02:27 PM
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I've thought about this a lot. I think the reason this happens is people, particularly women, don't want to acknowledge this as a real need because then they feel responsible to find solutions. But they don't like the solutions because they assume it involves some extreme rollback of feminism or whatever which isn't true.
/r/MensRights04/02/23 01:04 PM
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The guys that just want to bang a million women aren't gonna stop doing that lol
/r/MensRights04/02/23 05:09 AM
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How would no fault divorce help all these men who can't even get a date
/r/MensRights04/02/23 04:33 AM
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Having a wife and a family isn't really comparable to a lawn mower. We're talking about the foundation of someone's entire life. The ability to have a family. The people you live with and see every day. Who are with you if something bad happens. I mean I feel like this is obvious. Are you familiar with the concept of necessary and sufficient? Success in this area of life is necessary for the vast majority of men to have a fulfilling worthwhile life. It is not sufficient for a fulfilling life on …
/r/MensRights04/02/23 04:32 AM
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I mean yes obviously all the lonely men should try to make the most of it but I just feel some people dismiss how serious of an issue this is. Like I always compare it to having friends. I never really see anyone say "its ok if you don't have friends, try to enjoy life without them". Instead people give the obvious common perspective that friends are important and you should definitely try to make some. But for some reason with relationships there's this movement to claim its not a big deal. It …
/r/MensRights04/02/23 04:28 AM
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I think women will accept polygamy with the top guys and we'll use immigration to avoid population disaster. Men will suffer with higher drug abuse and suicide rates. Nobody will care except for the economic effects
/r/MensRights03/02/23 10:09 PM
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Its very easy to know how this shakes out. Men are going to abandon the system. If a large chunk of men realize they're never going to be in a relationship or have a family or maybe even get laid at all, they aren't going to be happy. They aren't going to bother going to work just to continue being frustrated.
/r/MensRights03/02/23 07:12 PM
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All you have to do is ban dating apps and culturally enforce monogamy
/r/MensRights03/02/23 07:09 PM
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I think it was just the accepted culture. That there were gender roles and you were valued for fulfilling those roles. I don't think it was thought of in a bad way at all.
/r/MensRights03/02/23 07:08 PM
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Porn Netflix and videogames didn't exist during the French revolution. Men are pacified by these types of things right now. I don't think you'll get a violent revolt. What you may get is a lack of participation because men who can't even get laid don't really want to go wageslave for money they don't need.
/r/MensRights03/02/23 07:05 PM
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You're asking men to not be human. Men need women. Most men are never going to be satisfied in life without any kind of intimate relationship with women. That's the reality. Stop trying to tell men to be happy with this existence. If nothing else, at least empathize and give coping solutions. But don't gaslight us that somehow we can just ignore the fact that we are all dying alone
/r/MensRights03/02/23 07:01 PM
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Its nothing to do with worth. It's to do with very basic needs not being met. Men are not meant to sexless and alone their entire lives
/r/MensRights03/02/23 06:59 PM
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A good amount of men will check out in the absence of hope for a sex or relationship
/r/MensRights03/02/23 06:58 PM
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If men were told the truth society would collapse from all the men that check out
/r/MensRights03/02/23 06:56 PM
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Ban dating apps and culturally enforce monogamy. Won't happen, but that would go a long way. I too wonder what the consequences of this will be. For me, I've accepted a life with no dating or sex and it absolutely killed my motivation to do much. I pretty just want to play videogames now. No need to impress anyone for anything
/r/MensRights03/02/23 06:52 PM
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In general, the most dangerous unstable group in any society is the single men. You have to acknowledge that reality
/r/MensRights31/01/23 03:00 PM
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I don't think a lot of men are choosing to be single lol. I think a lot of men are giving up but not because they don't want to date
/r/MensRights31/01/23 04:14 AM
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Because single men are dangerous to society so they don't want to normalize and accept them
/r/MensRights31/01/23 04:13 AM
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I've checked out. Theres no incentive for responsible participation anymore. I focus on video games pretty much and I don't work.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 11:13 PM
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Time for your pills 💊 💊
/r/MensRights23/01/23 11:46 PM
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.....huh. I barely post outside of football or this sub. Wtf are you talking about troll. I asked a simple question and you can't answer so accuse me of troll. Ok
/r/MensRights22/01/23 12:32 PM
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Like what
/r/MensRights22/01/23 05:20 AM
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Promiscuous women are gross and I wouldn't seriously date one
/r/MensRights19/01/23 10:42 PM
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They write the article because its true.
/r/MensRights13/01/23 07:09 PM
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Any man that struggles in dating is fat broke lazy misogynist incel
/r/MensRights13/01/23 07:07 PM
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If you find a good person yes she will care. They exist. Some of you are no better than the feminists who hate all men. Grow the fuck up please.
/r/MensRights13/01/23 03:59 PM
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No, you found a man who used to think this way when younger and now that I'm older I see how stupid it is. My future dying alone sucks
/r/MensRights13/01/23 03:58 PM
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The poorest American men are paycheck to paycheck living off credit
/r/MensRights12/01/23 03:51 AM
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Because sex is only one part of it. Coming home to an empty house every day and not having family or anyone who cares about you is fucking depressing. Some of you are going to learn the hard way.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 06:10 PM
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How is it simp. I didn't say worship any woman for existence. Some of you guys are just brainwashed. Go ahead and purposely live and die alone I guess.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 12:44 PM
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A vacation is different than living somewhere long enough to find a wife.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 12:43 PM
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Condemning yourself to loneliness because you're afraid of getting divorced makes no sense. There is nothing worthwhile being alone you're entire life because you're afraid a relationship can go wrong
/r/MensRights11/01/23 11:23 AM
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Thanks man, not looking good for me but it is what it is
/r/MensRights11/01/23 12:52 AM
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Because life is a lot worse for men. A lot of men are lonely and have no viable future worth living for. Women just need reasonable expectations and they can get a boyfriend husband and children
/r/MensRights10/01/23 08:25 PM
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Idk about this one. I think a lot of guys are desperate simps and basically take the first woman to look their way
/r/MensRights10/01/23 04:44 PM
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Thank you man, I appreciate your message. I wish I was alone, it sucks that so many men are in a similar place. But for me personally, if life isn't worth living I won't live it. There would literally be no point anymore
/r/MensRights10/01/23 04:43 PM
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Its not outside opinions, its the core human nature for men to want these things and be depressed without it. That's how our biology works. To help promote reproduction. You can't undo 100s of years biological programming
/r/MensRights10/01/23 04:40 PM
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It depends. Life can be really hard. If it gets hard, can't really justify enduring it all just to be miserable anyway
/r/MensRights10/01/23 03:28 PM
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There's currycel and ethnicel
/r/MensRights10/01/23 03:27 PM
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This isn't a recipe for happiness either though. Being alone sucks
/r/MensRights10/01/23 03:23 PM
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Its not realistic to go overseas like that. Most men can't do that
/r/MensRights10/01/23 03:21 PM
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It isn't a realistic thing though. Most men can't do that
/r/MensRights10/01/23 03:19 PM
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Man you can do this forever. Most men eventually question the purpose of it all, and if they're sexless lonely incels they won't bother any more
/r/MensRights10/01/23 03:14 PM
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The short term plan doesn't work. Men are not going to be happy that way. They aren't happy as incels
/r/MensRights10/01/23 03:12 PM
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Feminists don't want to be used for sex. They want to have exclusive access to the top 1% of men and every other man to chop their dick off and leave them alone
/r/MensRights10/01/23 03:11 PM
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A lot of us are hopeless dude. No point in trying if you can't get anywhere in life anyway. Why not just play videogames.?
/r/MensRights10/01/23 03:05 PM
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Man I don't know. I'm 31 and I've just given up. If I can't a job in the next year or so I'm likely going to kill myself. I think that's what you'll get honestly. A lot of suicide
/r/MensRights10/01/23 03:03 PM
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Jesus christ why do people punch down on those already struggling
/r/MensRights29/12/22 12:39 AM
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Women are obsessed with white guys. Everyone is allowed a preference, its just annoying when they don't admit it. And when white guys don't acknowledge their privilege in this aspect
/r/MensRights24/12/22 05:43 PM
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Learned this one the hard way. Don't go or if you do don't drink
/r/MensRights21/12/22 04:14 PM
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Just check out
/r/MensRights21/12/22 01:47 AM
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The men are happy not working, that's the point. When enough men check out you'll see the problem.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 05:46 PM
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Most men are fine getting by with very little. It's society at large that will complain when they can't find men to do the real work
/r/MensRights20/12/22 04:57 PM
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Theres a difference but theres a lot overlap. A lot of men are incels now
/r/MensRights20/12/22 02:12 PM
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a lot of men don't care anymore. The main motivation was always a family and that doesn't exist anymore
/r/MensRights20/12/22 12:06 PM
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Opportunities for what? Men have never wanted to work for its own sake. The entire point was to provide for a family. Without that incentive there's no reason to do any of that anymore.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 11:56 AM
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Actually the problem is that they have stopped doing this. Men increasingly can't get women so there's no point anymore
/r/MensRights20/12/22 11:54 AM
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Honestly what do they expect a bunch of single incel men to be motivated by? Why do they expect us to work if we're alone?
/r/MensRights20/12/22 11:51 AM
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I meant in the usa where I live. Most people don't get divorced.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 11:28 AM
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Yes it does. We need to atop with this nonsense. We are not meant to be alone. We are being gaslit to try to be happy alone but thats not how we're supposed to live
/r/MensRights19/12/22 11:56 PM
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I think those women fully understand what they're doing but they don't care. They want to get the top guys or stay alone
/r/MensRights19/12/22 05:30 PM
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Half of marriages end in divorce but thats counting people who have multiple marriages. The odds that any one person will get divorced is not 50%.
/r/MensRights19/12/22 03:35 PM
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True, most relationships aren't forever. But Men break up with women too. Its not just one way. I know women usually do the divorces but most people don't get divorced. A lot of marriages last
/r/MensRights19/12/22 02:57 PM
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Yea i mean I know there are acceptions in Nevada but thats a very small exception compared to the rest of usa
/r/MensRights19/12/22 02:55 PM
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Prostitution isn't legal in the usa and even if it was thsts only sex. That doesn't cure the loneliness of not having a real relationship. And the mail order stuff, I know that happens but there's something very different between that and just finding someone who voluntarily chooses to be with you. The fact that those are the options for lonely men, while women can find a man by just walking outside says everything. There are no leftover women. Any woman can find a man whenever she wants. Women …
/r/MensRights19/12/22 11:23 AM
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Women can get relationships whenever they want to. They always have options. Not the case for men
/r/MensRights19/12/22 11:20 AM
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Spot on
/r/MensRights19/12/22 05:40 AM
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Exactly this. If a man can't get laid, and this can't date or have a family, what exactly is supposed to be his reason to do anything? Most men aren't motivated by pure consumerism or hedonism
/r/MensRights19/12/22 05:39 AM
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Honestly I think there's truth to it. Most men are alone because they are unwanted. Most women are alone by choice, because they have options but reject them. So most alone guys are unhappy because alone not by choice, but women are more content cause they chose to be alone. Any woman unhappy to be alone can just pick one of her many options from the dating apps
/r/MensRights19/12/22 05:36 AM
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I don't have any incentive work anymore
/r/MensRights16/12/22 04:17 PM
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Women already only want to fuck the top guys.
/r/MensRights16/12/22 04:15 PM
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Obviously you need to provide heat or move them to warmer state. And I support sex vouchers and wealth redistribution OR I support neither. Anyone thst supports one and not the other is logically inconsistent
/r/MensRights15/12/22 07:42 PM
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Yea everything im saying is about the usa, if you live in a different country it wouldn't apply. Location matters.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 08:10 PM
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Lack of sex has severe consequences for mental health, which if course it does. It is the most powerful drive humans have and without it life doesn't even exist. So of course not doing it messes us up big time https://www.healthshots.com/intimate-health/sexual-health/heres-what-happens-to-your-mental-and-physical-health-when-you-stop-having-sex/
/r/MensRights13/12/22 08:01 PM
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This is a waste of time. If you aren't in the usa you won't understand the context.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 07:58 PM
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Babies are a different case, you qualify for all kinds of benefits if you have a baby. Sick people already don't get Healthcare so we clearly don't give a fuck about them. And old people get social security and other benefits that they can use for housing.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 07:46 PM
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Yes, a good heater can keep you warm enough to not die.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 07:31 PM
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I said it would keep them alive, which is the standard for helping people that the left is arguing for. If you want to agree that we need to do more than just merely keeping people alive, but also provide a certain level of well being and comfort, I agree..but then we need to include sex
/r/MensRights13/12/22 07:19 PM
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I'm arguing that Prostitution should legalized so that people can pay for it. Right now it's not legal(usa). Its a basic needs. Deprive a man of sex and he will grow frustrated and depressed at the very least. Its a basic need. Unless you deny the importance of mental health
/r/MensRights13/12/22 07:17 PM
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Because mental and emotional health suffers if you're deprived of sex. Mental health is a real thing. To the extent that you have men killing themselves because they can't get sex. Big issue and a basic need
/r/MensRights13/12/22 07:09 PM
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You could say that about literally anything, but anyone with a brain understands that's not reasonable. And funny hearing that on reddit where they are upset about abortion being banned here. The right wing says to just travel and reddit cries
/r/MensRights13/12/22 07:04 PM
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Yes , I'm talking about where its not legal though
/r/MensRights13/12/22 07:00 PM
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But that isn't the bare minimum to survive , which is how some liberals argue that they don't need to do anything to provide sex to people. They claim its only about survival and not comfort or well being. Ok. Shelter shouldn't count then
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:53 PM
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Yiu can give them space heaters or ship them to Warmer states
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:44 PM
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It hasn't happened because the people in power don't want it
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:43 PM
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Its not controversial for any legitimate reason. Its opponents make up reasons to hate on it thst doesn't make sense. Sex trafficking is more likely if it remains illegal, underground and unregulated. The best way to avoid those problems is legalizing and promoting fully vetted sex work operations. Exploitation similarly. We could take advice from all these other first world countries that have it legal and copy some of their preventative measures. This is a simple thing.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:31 PM
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The left and right both are generally against prostitution, but the point I've been making is that the left usually supports this type of thing because its something that provides a basic need to people suffering without it. Which they agree with doing for basically everything else(Healthcare, education , food housing etc). So that's the hypocrisy . The right is following the same logic they always have. Which is bootstraps and nobody deserves help. So they are at least logically consistent on t…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:20 PM
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Yes and that doesn't mean women are objects dumbass
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:16 PM
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Yes, the entire leftist media narrative that paints all incels as violent misogynists that deserve no empathy. Obvious example. This research shows its not true but the liberal media lies about this to kill any and all empathy for these men
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:14 PM
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Its not a whole other conversation..its the most direct way to address the issue of sexless men that many other countries already do. The people who oppose it try to make it this big complicated issue and it is not. Its a straightforward solution as old as time itself and if we know what's good for us we'll legalize this quick. Angry frustrated hoards of men floating around is a bad thing for society
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:01 PM
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Not at all. Your reading comprehension sucks if you think I meant that at all
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:57 PM
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You're a retard. The basic tenant of evolution is natural selection which is that those with desirable traits survive and reproduce and others die off without reproducing thus increasing the rate of that desirable trait in the population. Thus, like I said, by helping stupid or disabled people you are preventing this from taking its natural course
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:54 PM
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Dude what the hell. I didn't say anything you're going on about. The example I gave is legalizing prostitution so women can VOLUNTARILY opt in to fucking these incels for money legally. What is the problem here..you people come up with this strawman bullshit constantly
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:52 PM
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I said the word redistribution but in context I clearly didn't mean anything against their will. The example I gave was legalizing prostitution, a very obvious voluntarily activity. Jesus christ dude. Let's argue in good faith and not that gotcha bullshit. And I don't see your point about tokens. We legalize hookers so men(or women) can have sex if they are otherwise deprived. Many countries do this but the usa is too backwards to get with the times
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:50 PM
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Yee and I also know I never said women are objects
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:44 PM
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I don't. Weird comment.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:42 PM
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I can't join their cause, because I'm an incel and immediately told to shut up and die whenever I open my mouth. We are not welcome.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:34 PM
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Cool
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:33 PM
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Sexual attraction compares very strongly to the economy. They both suffer from massive inequality problems unless we intervene. The political left fully understands the economic side of this but turns a blind eye to the dating and marriage economy. Politics aren't involved in men becoming incels but they are absolutely involved in them staying incels. So much could be done about this issue if anyone cared.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:32 PM
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Nobody said anything about redistributing women against their will. Thsts a strawman leftists use to shut down the conversation. Prostitution IS a form of redistribution but voluntarily. It allows women to profit legally for having sex with men they otherwise would not. So its win win. The American left is hypocritical on this subject, and you're gaslighting me to say otherwise. You might say they are justified in their hypocritical stance but don't deny that they are being hypocritical in the f…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:29 PM
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Sure great point. I meant the democrats actually running the government. I totally realize there are pockets of people on the political left advocating for this, but not the majority in power
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:25 PM
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Yea but the left in the US does not support it. Thsts the hypocrisy im calling out. They change their mind on advocating for the less fortunate when its unattractive men. Everyone else they go to bat for
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:23 PM
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Evolution is also allowing stupid people to suffer the consequences of being dumb or disabled people to suffer their genetic disadvantages, but the left argues to protect those people. The only group they don't give a fuck about are unattractive men. Call it for what its.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:22 PM
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I mean the church hasn't changed but our culture has. There's no brakes on this cultural change. Nothing can be done. People aren't going to change until our society fails
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:20 PM
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My family is from a very poor part of Africa and I can promise you, you don't need shelter to survive. People can go generations sleeping outside. So, just one example of the bullshit behind the " you won't die without it" argument. You won't die without shelter or free college either but the left argues for those things too. And for the last time, you don't need to violate anyone's rights to redistribute sex. Why the hell does everyone jump to that ridiculous draconian conclusion? The example I…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:18 PM
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The problem is it isn't legal and most people like to abide the laws. I'm saying let's legalize and normalize this to help these incels. It won't solve everything but its at least something to help. I would definitely do it if it was legal
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:14 PM
9

No they don't. They have had control of the entire government for years and haven't done anything. They do not support it
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:12 PM
9

The thing is, a lot of these women outright prefer to share the attractive man over having an uglier man to herself. Its their natural tendency. Nothing can be done about this.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:10 PM
3

Cool
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:03 PM
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I never said anything about forcing anyone. I gave the example of legal prostitution, which my country usa does not have. Absolutely nothing to do with forcing anyone to do anything. If we care about men's mental health, we should be ALARMED at the current trends of sexless men(and women) and give them the option of sex workers
/r/MensRights13/12/22 05:02 PM
6

People are not born with the same brain dude. IQ is a real thing and often the difference in potential between people comes down to how inherently smart they are. So its the same issue as dating. Capitalism will always advantage those born with genetic advantages of intelligence over those who aren't smart. But the left still advocates for redistribution and says this difference is immoral. They want to legislate away 'cosmic injustice '. But they refuse to use the same logic with sex and dating…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 04:59 PM
6

I never said women owe anyone anything. Nice strawman. Let me know when you want to have an adult conversation
/r/MensRights13/12/22 04:55 PM
4

I'm not saying anyone's personal will should be violated. So where are you getting that from? I said legal sex workers working voluntarily for their own financial gain. It won't solve everything, but its better than where we are now where men(or women) starved of human touch have no option. I think it is important to call out the political hypocrisy we see as it happens. The left has to justification for being so pro basic rights but then doing a 180 when it comes to sexual needs. Mental health …
/r/MensRights13/12/22 04:54 PM
5

Why not? Its critical for mental health and well being. Does mental health not count?
/r/MensRights13/12/22 04:50 PM
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Femcels could use it too, I don't see why you even brought that up. Sexless people of whatever gender would have access. And the reason the right isn't criticized for this , is that its logically consistent with everything else they tend to say. They say "nobody is owed anything", whether food or housing or Healthcare or sex. But the left loves screaming for basic rights and needs until it comes to sex, where they transform into free market boot strap hardliners
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:31 PM
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Strawman, I didn't say anything about taxes did I? I said its about providing the basic needs and standards of living to everyone. You don't necessarily need taxes to do that. Sex is a basic human needs without which mental health suffers and well being suffers. Our society as a whole will suffer if men are depressed and unmotivated. It is absolutely something that should be provided for if the left cares so much about everyone
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:28 PM
4

Legalizing prostitution and vouchers to attend a few sessions a year is an example. That expands freedom for sex workers and gives access to deprived men. The left should be in support of a policy like that. Just one example
/r/MensRights13/12/22 03:13 PM
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The problem with the way incels are treated is that while SOME incels do have dangerous misogynistic ideas, the core of what they're saying is still true about modern women and dating. They aren't wrong about everything. Women want us to ignore the very real problems with the modern dating scene by screaming at inceks and silencing them. But there's truths society needs to be paying attention to and only incels are really calling them out
/r/MensRights13/12/22 02:59 PM
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Its not human beings, its sexual access. Liberals argue we need to provide everyone with basic needs, is not sex and relationships a basic human need? They should be advocating for policies that help distribute sex. Instead they are doing the exact opposite
/r/MensRights13/12/22 02:55 PM
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Its not human beings, its sexual access. Liberals argue we need to provide everyone with basic needs, is not sex and relationships a basic human need? They should be advocating for policies that help distribute sex. Instead they are doing the exact opposite
/r/MensRights13/12/22 02:55 PM
3

THANK YOU. I'm 5'3 and its fucking impossible man. We need to be honest with short men before they grow bitter and cold
/r/MensRights12/12/22 08:32 PM
1

No that's the latest lol
/r/MensRights12/12/22 08:03 PM
1

We'll see. I think certainly by or around 40
/r/MensRights12/12/22 02:14 PM
1

It depends who you are. As I get older, being alone isn't ok. It sucks and it isn't worth it for me. I'm sure there are guys who are totally happy being 40 yr old dateless lonely virgins but I'm not one
/r/MensRights12/12/22 12:31 PM
1

Dude stop this lie. A woman can absolutely make your life better just like any other relationship with friends or family can. I'm tired of people lying about this. I have friends who are married to their best friend. They do everything with them. They are loved every day. How can you lie to someone like me and say that isn't a huge difference and way better than being alone you're entire life. I realize NOT ALL situations are good with women. I'm just saying it is absolutely the case that being …
/r/MensRights12/12/22 11:47 AM
1

If I'm gonna be miserable what's the point
/r/MensRights12/12/22 01:21 AM
1

There are certain things you can basically know dude. I know the sun will rise tomorrow. I know I'm not winning the lottery. Some things are very obvious man.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 10:12 PM
1

.......there's hard realities to the way this stuff works man. Unless someone is forced into it im not getting anyone lol
/r/MensRights11/12/22 09:42 PM
2

Itd really not as different as you might think though
/r/MensRights11/12/22 09:40 PM
1

Yea I mean a lot can happen but unless I magically wake up not short and ugly I'll be alone. That isn't changing
/r/MensRights11/12/22 07:06 PM
1

Never going to find anyone dude. That's a reality. If you want to say life is worth living anyway, go ahead and make that claim but no more false hope
/r/MensRights11/12/22 05:33 PM
1

Lol Africa are you crazy
/r/MensRights11/12/22 03:47 PM
4

I'm ugly too but u still have the desire to date. Its bad when you cant do anything about it
/r/MensRights11/12/22 03:40 PM
3

Lost me at the very end lol. There is not someone for everyone. We don't live in a Disney movie
/r/MensRights11/12/22 03:38 PM
3

Women in real life judge you for height too. Women are no less shallow on real life. Thats a myth.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 04:45 AM
7

A lot answers nailed it already. Online dating and feminism have combined to make women extremely picky and often even uninterested in settling down. If a woman has access to every man within 100 miles and no desire to date seriously, she'll sleep around with the top guys. This leaves the regular joe blow with no options. The obesity epidemic is an overlooked factor. So many women are fat, that it greatly inflates the desirability of any woman who is not. Contributing to the selectiveness of eve…
/r/MensRights11/12/22 02:36 AM
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Most of the women I know in real life are in dating apps or have tried dating apps. Its not like a different class of woman. Online is the most common way to meet nowadays. There is not some alternative world in real life vs online. It's one and the same
/r/MensRights11/12/22 02:20 AM
5

All this
/r/MensRights11/12/22 01:42 AM
6

Glad he was able to escape. The system is such bullshit.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 12:48 PM
3

Identify as a minority
/r/MensRights15/11/22 04:17 PM
1

They don't care about men until one snaps and does a mass shooting Then they blame all the other men who didn't do anything
/r/MensRights15/11/22 04:14 PM
4

They don't lower their standards for anyone not in the hate groups either
/r/MensRights13/11/22 02:42 PM
2

Absolutely ridiculous. Incels gonna be the new witch hunt
/r/MensRights13/11/22 02:02 PM
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I mean some of us don't want to be single but nobody wants us. I've given up and focus on video games and other things I enjoy. What the hell else do they expect? If I can't get women anyway why not just indulge in whatever I want.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 08:36 PM
2

They're still resentful about it even if they know it's their fault. Excluding people virgin by choice
/r/MensRights01/11/22 12:56 AM
4

Today's men are pacified with things like porn and videogames. You won't get rebellion but you will get apathetic men who don't do anything
/r/MensRights31/10/22 11:43 PM
1

Every virgin is resentful
/r/MensRights31/10/22 11:20 PM
1

Modern men are pacified with porn drugs junk food Netflix and videogames, they won't get violent. In principle you are right, men have no stake in society if they can't get a wife and kids. But for now I think we'll avoid violence because of the things mentioned above
/r/MensRights31/10/22 11:19 PM
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Today's incels aren't going to be fathers lol. What you're going to get is a ton of men getting older with no stake in society and it will lead to decay in bad ways. Also, the reason nobody wants to talk about it is that feminism has made it misogynistic to do so. If you even try to bring this up, you're supporting those evil incels.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 11:16 PM
1

I think there's too many ways for men to distract themselves now. You won't get violence, you'll get lazy unmotivated men that just play video games and watch porn
/r/MensRights31/10/22 11:13 PM
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Porn helps people who can't have real sex, what's wrong with that. Videogames are fun. Unless you're saying fun is a waste of time, in which case wtf are you living for
/r/MensRights24/10/22 06:57 PM
11

die alone or waste your life chasing women who don't like you and die alone. Easy choice
/r/MensRights24/10/22 06:55 PM
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Video games are the only thing keeping some of us going. Porn is the only sexual outlet for some of us. But social media can rot in hell, ban it
/r/MensRights24/10/22 05:24 PM
3

Its terrible for mental health, most men need to get off of it
/r/MensRights24/10/22 01:47 PM
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Most Men are better off opting out until things change
/r/MensRights24/10/22 01:45 PM
6

A lot of guys like yourself a bit older who haven't tried modern dating don't understand this. They call us younger guys losers and incels while they were able to date in an environment where women lacked the same kind of choice. They say 'just be confident' since that's all it used to take. I honestly think most guys are better off not trying. I think its embarrassing to see men jumping through hoops and loops for mediocre women at best. Its over.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 06:32 PM
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Yup. Society needs to stop gaslighting and telling men we're the problem
/r/MensRights17/10/22 10:07 PM
1

Nope lived near several big cities and didn't make a difference. And I'm too unattractive for any 'work ' to make a difference
/r/MensRights17/10/22 07:42 PM
1

I've done that for years, it doesn't work. I don't meet the standards
/r/MensRights17/10/22 06:55 PM
1

The standards have to be reasonable though, right now it's gotten completely out of hand where even average or mediocre looking women have standards most men can't meet. That doesn't make sense. At this point I have no standards(outside of way too old), I would give anyone at least a chance but I'm also a desperate incel
/r/MensRights17/10/22 05:20 PM
1

Lol can't speak for the uk, but if you're 5'11 and white and go for average women that makes sense you would have success even in the usa. Keep in mind you are talking to a lot of guys who are in way worse situations. Don't assume everyone is like you.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 03:28 PM
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🙄
/r/MensRights17/10/22 03:26 PM
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Ehi doubt it, men are too desperate for pussy. There's going to keep being simps
/r/MensRights17/10/22 03:09 PM
1

What? I'm just saying things that are attractive to women are not necessarily inherently better. If you take a job you like less for more money to impress women, and get no women out of it, you made your life worse for no reason. Or if you invest your time in activities you don't even like to try to meet women, your life is worse if it doesn't work.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 03:08 PM
1

Oh, lol yea its way different in America thats where the problem really is
/r/MensRights17/10/22 03:03 PM
1

How tall are you? Are you white? Do you have a decent face? 4 or 5 matches a day is really good. I don't get that in an entire month. You are doing very well on those apps and since apps are all about looks you must be attractive
/r/MensRights17/10/22 03:02 PM
2

Thank you. People pretend this isn't true but it is. I'm 5 foot 3, and it literally doesn't matter what I do I'm rejected on height/looks alone. But I'm gaslit by women who claim this doesn't happen
/r/MensRights17/10/22 02:59 PM
1

For me the problem is people refusing to admit how ridiculous women's standards have gotten. Yes, as a guy you have to either meet the standards or give up. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be allowed to even discuss how stupid and ridiculous this has gotten. And also acknowledge that many men are better off giving up than trying to appease a mediocre woman's insane standards
/r/MensRights17/10/22 02:57 PM
0

Maybe you hate your job though. Thats not better. I know many men would rather take a low stress job but only want more money to get women. If you don't get women anyway why bother?
/r/MensRights17/10/22 02:54 PM
2

The key here is the getting involved part. Not 'working on yourself'. 'Work on yourself ' doesn't matter, you have to actively try to get out and meet people
/r/MensRights17/10/22 02:50 PM
1

Doesn't work if you're ugly. Just focusing on myself has only left me perpetually single
/r/MensRights17/10/22 02:48 PM
5

That's just gaslighting. People don't want to acknowledge female hypergamy so they just shit on the men
/r/MensRights17/10/22 02:38 PM
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Womens standards are just sky high.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 02:34 PM
31

There's too many pathetic simps for that to happen. Women can always find someone
/r/MensRights17/10/22 02:33 PM
3

An incel is a man who can't get a date or sex
/r/MensRights11/10/22 01:36 AM
1

Its not going to happen but banning dating apps would be a good start. Other than that I think its more cultural pressure we could try to implement to encourage women finding an actual relationship instead of hooking up with the same guys. Realistically nothing can really be done because this is how women naturally are any attempt to combat that won't be supported by the vast majority
/r/MensRights09/10/22 01:13 PM
3

The top 20% of guys are the physically and financially attractive guys that women want. Basic stuff everyone knows, height face income etc. Race is also important
/r/MensRights06/10/22 01:11 AM
4

Forreal lol. Dude is actually probably addicted to playing
/r/MensRights05/10/22 11:26 PM
10

Exactly. Feel like this sub just always goes against the woman but this sounds completely reasonable to me
/r/MensRights05/10/22 08:39 PM
9

Ughh did you see what happened to Tua last week? Traumatic brain injury is just a play away in football
/r/MensRights05/10/22 08:37 PM
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The issue is it takes up a ton of time and she wants him around more for the family. I don't think its a crazy ask at age 45. Qbs can easily get fucked up too, just a play away. See Tua
/r/MensRights05/10/22 08:36 PM
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I think we can agree its reasonable for her to want him to retire a 45 years old. Nobody plays that long
/r/MensRights05/10/22 03:10 PM
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Its not about money, she has more money than god independent of him
/r/MensRights05/10/22 03:09 PM
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Women are only interested in the top guys. Thats the problem with dating today, they all want the same men and don't want to settle for less
/r/MensRights05/10/22 11:04 AM
1

At least they're bringing it up
/r/MensRights02/10/22 08:35 PM
2

The stuff you're saying is crazy dude
/r/MensRights15/09/22 02:57 PM
2

Are you a troll? Be honest. You're saying silly stuff
/r/MensRights15/09/22 12:29 PM
3

Zero if she isn't baseline attracted to you
/r/MensRights15/09/22 10:12 AM
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She has to be baseline attracted to you for that to work. Women don't run around chasing ugly dudes just because the dude talked to her a bit. I feel like the stuff your saying makes things worse because men like me fall for it, and when it doesn't it work it hurts even more
/r/MensRights14/09/22 03:07 PM
1

A man with a woman and a kid and a future is less likely to throw it all away in a random fit of rage. I think its absolutely true that lonely sexually frustrated men are at the highest risk for these acts of violence
/r/MensRights14/09/22 02:50 PM
3

... "they will fall into your lap when you become self confident! When you give up on caring so much for them. That is when they will properly notice you. " Can we stop with this bullshit. Im super short like the op and no woman has ever fallen into my lap despite not caring
/r/MensRights14/09/22 02:44 PM
3

Its doesn't get better op. Same boat now in my 30s and death with be the only relief
/r/MensRights14/09/22 02:38 PM
2

Reddit is very leftists which aligns with radical feminism
/r/MensRights06/09/22 10:53 AM
14

I opt out
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:50 PM
2

I've given up and don't care anymore
/r/MensRights29/08/22 06:02 PM
12

Addiction to anything is bad. Tired of videogames being singled out
/r/MensRights29/08/22 05:54 PM
2

Doesn't align with my experience at all I'll say that much
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:58 PM
6

I agree in general women don't want broke guys. But I'm speaking against the old fashioned idea that by getting a job and having some money that will make you attractive. It will not(unless you're legitimately rich with a fancy lifestyle). You need to be attractive to her in general AND have some money. Money alone isn't enough anymore for all these otherwise unattractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:25 PM
6

Its reality. Women don't need providers anymore. They don't care if Joe blow has a good job if they aren't attracted to him. UNLESS you are legitimately rich and have a fancy lifestyle to sell to her, she doesn't care
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:12 PM
1

That's because they do. The problem is the women aren't interested in any of those choices. But that doesn't mean the choices aren't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:03 PM
6

'The kind of guys who tend to be into someone like me aren't the kind of guys I want to be in a relationship with.' Thank you for being honest. This is the big problem with modern dating and there is no solution
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:50 PM
1

So then why do you keep saying it's only easy to find who want to fuck. Theres a ton of men who are looking for more. I'm one of them. And I can't find anyone willing to give me the time of day. I don't exist as an option
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:49 PM
2

What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:44 PM
1

A lot of men will take anything and anyone. Fat and single mom is tougher, but you can definitely find guys out there willing. My aunt is fat, disabled in her 50s with 5 kids and has a bf
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:43 PM
1

A lot of men will take anything and anyone. Fat and single mom is tougher, but you can definitely find guys out there willing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:43 PM
0

Nah man men get desperate. I haven't been on a date in years and I'm pretty much willing to take anything
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:39 PM
1

Theres a lot of lonely men who want a relationship. I don't know why you are acting like they don't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:38 PM
7

Yea losing weight if you're fat makes a big difference. But I don't think women care about muscles like the gym obsessed red pillers claim. I think that's just a cope to convince themselves they have some control over the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:27 PM
2

She has lots of men to pick from, from which she can at least find one if she had reasonable standards. That's what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:19 PM
6

It's not a myth. There are articles being written about the rise of single lonely men. They are everywhere right now. A woman who wants a man has plenty of choice. But I guess all those guys don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:14 PM
2

Still a big enough number that anyone with reasonable standards can find someone
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:35 PM
3

When people say 'hit the gym' they don't mean lose weight. I mean not everyone is even fat. They mean get bigger muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:02 PM
3

They are but there's men willing to do both. There's so many desperate simps out there. Any woman can find a lot of men that wants to be in a relationship because it would be their only option
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:00 PM
7

Not just not desperate, but actively picky. They're still extremely picky despite being so unhappy. Settling is just not an option for them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:59 PM
3

Yea I agree on that I think
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:57 PM
14

there are simps everywhere who would bend over backwards to be with anyone. The amount of desperate men willingly to take anyone cannot be stressed enough
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:56 PM
9

They do that even with men they are attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:49 PM
1

It changes nothing. Women don't care about this. Its been proven time and again. Face and height determine your attractiveness as a man. The gym doesn't change shit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:49 PM
11

Yes you can be. Happily single means you are generally happy with your life despite being single. That can be true and you'll still want to meet someone if you can
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:47 PM
15

Theyd still rather do it than settle for someone they aren't attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:46 PM
-1

Until you actually are 50 and alone, you can't say how you'll feel at that point. Period. I thought I could be happy alone my whole life too and I was wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:45 PM
1

No because you aren't 50 yet. You don't know how you'll actually feel
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:39 PM
-1

Sure at 50 I believe it but at that point it's whatever. I think anyone alone at 50 won't be happy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:35 PM
13

They're looking sure, most single people are, but the point is they still have high enough standards that they're rejecting the vast majority of men that are interested
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:34 PM
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Well I'm 31 and I don't see all these desperate women in their 30s settling for anything and anyone. Nothing has changed. Even if they're not happy single, they're happier than settling for a man they aren't attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:21 PM
7

Lol. Women in the ghetto want drug dealers and thugs and attractive men. If they cared about decent guys with good jobs there wouldn't be so many incels
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:12 PM
14

The amount of money you need to get to the point that it gets you women is unrealistically high for most men. I make the supposedly magical 6 figure salary but nobody cares. Its not like I can fund some extravagant lifestyle. So women don't care. You need to be legit rich not just have a good job. That's not attainable for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:57 AM
1

Unless you're legitimately rich women don't care about '"career ", they have their own money. They also don't care about the gym. Women are more attracted to height and how your face looks. Thinking the gym changes things is a red pill cope because you can't do anything else. In terms of women being used, at any point they could settle for someone that won't use them. But they'd rather be used by a more attractive man than settle
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:33 AM
8

How late is 'later in life'? If its after men's hunger for sex dies down , then yes that's possible. But for the majority of life men are too horny to be satisfied at all alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:58 AM
2

The truth is too brutal for that. Manosphere is popular for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:56 AM
0

My standards? Ughh don't be fat, be a good a person, actually care about me, don't be a slut with a crazy body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:55 AM
2

It is absolutely survival of the fitest but of course men with still be upset at being left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:54 AM
1

No, because we can't even control what we're attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:52 AM
2

That's not being needy That's being human. Men are constantly told to not even be human with normal needs and desires
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:52 AM
3

Its just empty advice when someone has nothing tangible to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:50 AM
1

It used to be like that more in the west too. But social change has made it so that women don't need providers anymore so that doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:49 AM
2

All men get red pilled at some point. We all end up seeing female nature for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:47 AM
52

Most men are desperate and simp for whatever they can get. Women hold the power to such an extent that they can always easily find a lot of men willing to be with her. Women are generally happier alone than settling for less than their ideal. So yes, even if they end up alone they don't care because they'd rather be alone than just be with someone they aren't actually attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:44 AM
2

Because women's standards have gotten so high that they don't meet the standards
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:13 AM
2

I personally am not someone very angry about it but there are enough of them out there that its not a good thing if this continues. These men have nothing to lose. I also never said anyone is owed a relationship. All I'm saying is the reality that when tons of men are angry lonely and have no stake in society shit is dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 08:35 PM
3

Its a disaster because more and more men are ending up angry frustrated and alone. Its a trend that is only growing. A society with too many angry young men with easy access to guns is a bad recipe. Hypergamy is the reason so many men cannont find anyone anymore. It is a problem. When women only want the top men, you get dangerous conditions that will lead to instability
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:11 PM
1

Online dating and feminsim unleashed female hypergamy and the result is the disaster we see unfolding
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:23 AM
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Men and it isn't close
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:01 PM
2

I like to speak the truth in a sea of lies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:38 PM
1

People want to be heard also hear others opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:37 PM
4

The vaccine doesn't prevent spread so that doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:36 AM
1

Cool
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:35 AM
1

How would you know when you don't know my risk factors at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:31 AM
2

Nah, like the main benefit of the vaccine is that it lowers your risk of hospitalization and death. And my risk was already near zero as it is. So why bother. That wouldn't make any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:22 AM
1

Yes I was at low risk for everything regardless if I got the vaccine or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:13 AM
1

The specific information is he gave me my personal risk factors from covid and then the benefits of the vaccine. Given my risk factors, the vaccine didn't really make a difference so I didn't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:09 AM
2

Wasn't trying to convince you but you're making bad assumptions on little information
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:04 AM
2

Neither of those are true but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:00 AM
2

He informed me and let me decide. That's really what doctors should do imo that's why I like him. He probably would have an opinion on something more serious but the reality was it wasn't a big deal for me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:58 PM
2

Smh he didn't give me one. He gave me information and said its up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:55 PM
2

As I said, he gave me the information to make the decision myself. I don't understand why that's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:52 PM
3

He told me the information I needed to make the decision myself. What is the problem with that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:49 PM
1

But why? You'd turn down the love of your life because he realized he didn't need the vaccine?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:46 PM
4

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:44 PM
1

I'm down to help
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:41 PM
5

There's a middle ground between anti vaxx and medical reason. I didn't take it because i determined I didn't need it and I was right. Got over covid without much issue
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:39 PM
2

Woke gon woke
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:37 PM
2

Of course. That this even a question is insane
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:36 PM
7

At least you had a chance to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:00 PM
3

My blue pill take is that women's actions make complete sense and they should be as picky and hypergamous as they are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:59 PM
1

Its everything everyone says. Looksmaxx and money maxx
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:57 PM
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If you look good women don't care about any of that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:54 PM
5

No, people come up with nonsense to avoid acknowledging how ridiculous and shallow women's standards are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:53 PM
1

But women also constantly lie online or to male friends where there isn't any risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:44 AM
1

Yes they would be better off because they wouldn't have unrealistic expectations. Men already deal with reality and have to handle it. It would be better if they heard the truth from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:40 AM
1

Find actual relationships with good guys instead of sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:37 AM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:06 PM
1

Sure, I'm just telling you what tends to happen when too many men are shut out from dating and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:43 PM
1

Except a lot of your friends and family will also be angry lonely young men who don't care anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:15 PM
1

I personally do not. Most people just pick something practical that pays the bills
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:00 PM
1

Not everyone has an interest in that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:35 PM
1

Good but fun isn't the same as meaning/purpose etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:28 PM
1

I mean yea you should try to get a job that pays good and doesn't suck but you still probably won't like it. Its not where you will find purpose or happiness. Its just a means to pay your bills
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:00 PM
1

I think that's message a lot of people are getting. 'Oh don't worry about dating or getting married or having a family, focus on your career !'. Very few people even have careers as you said. They have unfulfilling jobs to pay the bills. You aren't going to find purpose there and most people shouldn't even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:18 PM
1

Cool we disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:10 PM
1

I already said I think survey data on sensitive subjecrs in general is bad and I prefer hard behavioral or observational studies. But if you have to do it, I think the way I suggested might be the better option. Still a bad one, but better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:08 PM
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Because we talk about it and what they tell me aligns with what I've seen from them(for example the guys who never seem to be dating aren't claiming some huge number and vice versa). So its believable. "Why do a study that’s going to give you inaccurate numbers lol." I asked you the same thing. I don't think you should but if you insist this is a better way because it removes the incentive to lie
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:52 PM
1

Well it depends, I know pretty accurately most of my closest friends. You can definitely find people who can do that study
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:40 PM
1

On this specific thing there's no way to do a good study. That doesn't mean I have to believe whatever is out there as gospel truth. People lie. At the very least, you would do better to ask people about their friends or something like that and see if things change. Cause asking them personally is not trustworthy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:32 PM
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The men getting women had an incentive for peace. They weren't the ones causing violence because they had something to lose. Men need a stake in society. Without that many are cool overthrowing the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:30 PM
1

Obviously you can't for something like this, this is the best you can do but that doesn't mean its reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:28 PM
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Look I'm not going to convince you otherwise, just for me personally I value behavioral data way more than self reports because of obvious reliability concerns. Especially on something like thus that people are known to lie about
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:23 PM
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Again you're a woman lol. Its way easier for women to do that then men. Some men can do it but the vast majority cannot. I mean you realize a big cause of mass violence and unrest throughout history has been too many men who can't get women and they get angry and violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:13 PM
1

Well I don't know who you're talking about but whenever possible I only share behavior based data, not what someone tells you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:11 PM
1

Weird comment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:34 AM
1

Thats apples and oranges. Different kind of relationship. Parents are important but that's way different than never having sex, not meeting your needs for intimacy or having a companion or having children for your entire life. A lot of people grow up and their parents aren't a huge part of their life anymore. Their significant other is way more important Its just a different thing. Hate to say it but you honestly wouldn't understand as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:32 AM
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Back at ya
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:26 AM
1

Weird comment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:25 AM
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No there isn't. There is no man who wants sex/dating but can't get it who is happy. He may deal with his frustration in a better way than others, but he's not happy because an important part of his needs aren't being met
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:21 AM
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Sex is necessary, not sufficient. Getting it doesn't solve everything, but not having it ruins everything
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:17 AM
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This has always been true. The documentaries don't change the fact that the primary motivation for most men is getting laid and always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:15 AM
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Some are trying very hard. It seems some people are always trying to argue a just world fallacy. You're implying that those men just aren't trying. Some arent , but many many are going above and beyond and cannot find anyone. There is a problem with dating right now. Its out of whack. A lot of totally normal guys who aren't doing anything wrong can't find anyone. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:11 AM
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The majority do not fall into this category. The majority that are struggling want a real woman but cannot get one
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:09 AM
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Do you understand men? They're simple creatures. If not for the motive to attract women, they can get by doing the bare minimum. For example I look at myself and wonder why I bother working anymore. I could easily start doing the bare minimum and just gaming all day. If I'm going to be single forever, why not
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:07 AM
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A lot of them would actually. Most men don't need much to satisfy themselves personally. If there's no hope of finding a woman and/or having a family, a lot of men are going to kill themselves or drop-out of society or act out in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:06 AM
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The whole worship your career is bullshit. For the vast majority of people working is just a necessary evil. You cannot replace having love and a family with a job. That people believe that is insanity
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:04 AM
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Men have never had a higher purpose. Getting a woman for sex/dating/marriage and having a family has always been the main reason men do anything beyond the bare minimum. Why? Because without that motivation men can please themselves on very very little. A lot of men can be happy with a small apartment playing video games all day. Dave Chappell has a good bit about this. He says men don't like cars. Men know that women are attracted to fancy cars so they want one. And if women would fuck homeless…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:58 AM
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People lie in surveys. When it comes to sex men will lie and say more, women lie and say less
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:56 AM
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Agreed op, its a collective action problem. Individually you can't do anything but as a group something could be done but too hard to coordinate
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:55 AM
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Agree with everything but the last part because there is a new physical standard and you can't control if you meet it. That's genetic luck
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:54 AM
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They still have options just less
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:20 AM
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You see but society can't afford to be honest with men because the truth is grim and a lot of men will react and behave negatively if they know the truth. That's why there's so much blatant gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:58 PM
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How would she know that? She doesn't have my reddit account
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:25 PM
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Its a growing trend. It doesn't mean every single persons experience has to reflect the trend. Its a growing trend that's impacting more and more men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 02:54 PM
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Well I'm not so maybe stop making stupid assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:25 PM
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This isn't the online community, these issues get brought up in actual conversations in real life. I don't understand this myth some of you believe that these things are only online. You realize everyone online is a real person who also goes outside? And they don't change what they think when they walk outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:10 PM
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Yes they do most people bring up history at some point even just out of curiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:03 PM
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The majority of men don't want to date a promiscuous woman seriously. I think that's safe to say
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:51 AM
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Unless she's an honest good person who will tell the truth about her past. Guess those are few and far between these days
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:43 AM
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No, because are only fed up for ridiculous reasons. They are fed up because they all want the same guys and most of them end up getting used and ghosted. Most men are struggling and not getting any results because we aren't wanted. Absolutely nothing we can do, it's women that must change
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:59 AM
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Nailed it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:55 AM
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If you have reasonable standards its still easy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:55 AM
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Men's mental health is already bad when they can't get a date. Manosphere merely explains to these men what's going on and that they aren't alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:54 AM
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People are attracted to different things and you can't control what you're attracted to. I don't think it's fair to tell someone they're settling by going after what they see as hot naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:52 AM
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She can do whatever she wants but there will be consequences. Men don't want to take the town bicycle seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:50 AM
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True but the vast majority of people who meet online do by OLD anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:26 PM
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Online dating is already the biggest way people meet. Percentage wise
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:08 PM
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Except men right now have just as hard a time irl as online. If what yours saying was true there should be some huge difference where its way easier to find someone irl and its not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:38 AM
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This finding isn't limited to old thought, its found at all kinds of things like speed dating which is in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:11 PM
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If you find someone's picture unattractive, if its actually them you'll also find them unattractive in real life. It's the same face Feel like some of you go to great lengths to deny the obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:48 PM
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Yes, there are studies that show women rate as much as 80% of men unattractive. That would mean without a doubt that many women end up with men they don't find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:41 PM
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Men are genuinely attracted to most women but women are only genuinely attracted to a small subset of men. So its way different. Most men genuinely find the woman they are with attractive. Not so the other way around. So yes, men settle but they are still with someone they are attracted to. When women settle its often someone they aren't even attracted to. Big big difference
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:28 PM
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Theres nothing inherently wrong with it , its just preference. I personally would not want that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:26 PM
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Why do people do this. There's a general growing trend going on of more and more men not being able to have dating success. Your individual experience doesn't change anything about this trend
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:17 PM
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Dude you nailed this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:11 PM
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Great point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:09 PM
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Because we have values and character and want to be good people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:08 PM
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Doesn't work for me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:07 PM
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Its not a skill game when all you have to do is be born good looking to win
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:06 PM
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The author blatantly avoids the real reason so many men are rejected, which is that women have a higher standard for physical attractiveness than before. The solution? For most guys the right solution is to opt out, because going to extreme lengths of 'self improvement ' just to get an ordinary woman is not worth it. They will need sex robots hookers and porn to meet physical needs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:03 PM
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Homeless women can be attractive. I've gone after the lowest value women possible, the ugly ones. It didn't work. Can't do anything beyond that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:29 AM
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Never worked for me. It all depends
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:45 PM
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At the very least society needs to acknowledge that there is a problem and cater to all the alone frustrated men floating around in society
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:40 AM
1

You get rejected all the time by women regardless of league
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:39 AM
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Getting rejected constantly can make you bitter and frustrated
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:39 AM
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The average man in his 30s lives alone for example. That's why I said it depends on age, cause the average guy around my age for example is not with roommates or at homw
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:27 PM
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The fuck? Most of my friends are women yet I'm terrified? How
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:19 PM
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I'm not arguing with anyone dude, you're turning it into one by being kind of a dick. Your average guy scenario is way off imo but it depends how old "jim" is. Your average guy in his late 20s and up definitely has his own place and lives alone, most likely has a car, has a decent job not a shitty one. To me you described a below average man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:18 PM
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I'm not sure how to say a more specific scenario, the scenario is an average guy that wants to do date and isn't that picky. I can't give an example cause they're all from my own personal life, you wouldn't know any of them. I think below average or unattractive guys have it really hard. What %? Based on the stat that about 30% of young guys never get laid, I'd say the bottom 30% of guys. Below average is exactly what it sounds, below average in categories that women care about(looks, height, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 08:19 PM
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Like I mean a totally average guy who's not too picky i don't think has it that bad out there. Worse than an equivalent woman but don't think it's that bad. I think it really gets bad when you get to the below average and unattractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 08:04 PM
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Even for the average guy it depends what his goals are though. I think an average guy doesn't have to work THAT hard if he's not too picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 08:00 PM
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You're ignoring the reality of how dating and society has changed and made things way harder for guys. Lots of data backs it up
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:53 PM
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It depends who you are though, some men have it easy of at least not super hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:51 PM
0

No, the cards are heavily stacked against men and the rise of all these pills is clear evidence of the frustration its leading to
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:29 PM
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Don't listen to women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:57 PM
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Great post. The reality is we are a polygamous species by nature for a reason. Women are attracted to a small set of men and they only settle when compelled to do so culturally and circumstantially
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:07 AM
1

No that's how they looked
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:35 AM
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Not in 2022, its extremely common now with the way society has changed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:34 AM
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Good for you but most people aren't like that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:33 AM
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I used that name because I was suffering with covid and lost all my taste and smell so yes life sucked at the time I used that name. I still haven't recovered That doesn't mean I feel that way 247. And yes I have 2 long term friend groups, one from high school one from college. Stop making assumptions, you look like an ass
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:31 PM
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You clearly make wild assumptions on little information
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:20 PM
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Its irrelevant to this thread. This thread is about actual women willing to date you now. If there are not any, by definition you have no options. And lol at telling me about immediate results. I'm 31. I'm not some teenager
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:19 PM
1

Well we used to somewhat be with the enforcement of social norms and monogamy, marriage etc but not anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:13 PM
2

So that one woman was an option for 10 other guys? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:00 PM
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Youre taking rare exceptions and then trying to make it the rule. . There are virgin men who are desperate for anyone who cannot find anyone. It doesn't matter that some down syndrome guy got lucky somewhere, a lot of guys still have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:29 PM
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Really, you really think every fat guy with down syndrome is married? For every one you see like that, 2 or 3 others are alone but you completely ignore that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:16 PM
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That is irrelevant, by ' options op meant women willing to date you now. Obviously you can always say "improve yourself ", but the question is if any woman is an option right now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:05 PM
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There are people on this sub who think any man can just easily get a woman but claim that he must have high standards. And that's not true because a lot of women will not settle
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 11:38 AM
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Mentally ill women can be good looking. Homeless women can be good looking. You simply don't understand how women are valued. A good looking homeless woman is higher value than an ugly doctor. Anyone who goes after the ugliest women, which a lot of men do, is scraping the bottom of the barrel by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 11:37 AM
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I never said if wasn't her right. I was just stating that reality because some on this sub don't understand this is what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 11:29 AM
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A homeless woman could be good looking. That's not bottom of the barrel, it's a life situation that nobody should even be trying to date until they fix it. This sub says the most ridiculous nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 11:28 AM
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No and that's an absolutely ridiculous thing to even suggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:30 AM
0

Or just women are picky and don't settle for the lower tier men on their level. I've seen it first hand, past a certain point women would just rather be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:52 AM
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I didn't say she was. Just fucking stop putting words in my mouth
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:50 AM
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Except I've gone for the most bottom barrel women you can. If that doesn't work, you can't go lower
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:49 AM
2

.....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:53 AM
2

"You didn't agree to work for free and commute 5 hours every day, you must not really want a job"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:52 AM
2

Ugh no, at some point you cross the line to the insane that no reasonable person would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:43 AM
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Hire a private investigator? If you need to go to those lengths something is seriously wrong, nobody does that. This sub throws crazy extremist things and then act like its totally reasonable to expect people to have done.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:40 AM
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😑 you're wrong, maybe learn a bit about me before making random judgements like that. I don't think it's crazy to say that a desperate chick would try online dating if she was actually desperate. Its the most common way people meet now. If you aren't willing to even try it, you can't be that desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:29 AM
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I went to an ivy league school and those women didn't care. They dated thugs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:27 AM
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Well they aren't desperate if they aren't even willing to try the most common way people meet currently that would guarantee a ton of matches for them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:16 AM
1

Ok but did you grow up in the hood? Cause there weren't no fucking furries in my hood. It was all ghetto people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:11 AM
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No we don't. I personally have no options. I'm 31 and have made a point for years to have zero standards and nobody is ever interested
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:08 AM
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No there is not. I was a nerd in the ghetto and those women hated me. They dated gang members
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:02 AM
2

Except it's not true that women are happily settling for their equals. The whole problem is women have inflated standards and all want the top guys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:01 AM
3

Desperate women can go online and be bombarded with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:00 AM
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No it only works for people who have options in the first place. A lot of men have zero options, you can't lower your standards when nobody is interested in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:57 AM
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Those women have standards and options. They get a alot of matches online.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:56 AM
2

Being single forever is a pretty terrible fate and most people will not be happy that way
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:55 AM
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Dude this is bullshit. Most men have zero options out there. They are desperate for anyone to give them the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:51 AM
3

Some people never succeed at this and its laughably to ignore that fact and say everyone does
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:49 AM
1

Excdot women in the ghetto like ghetto guys. They don't want Carlton
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:47 AM
3

Spot on lol I always say this. Like what, you think there's a bunch of women I'm rejecting? Not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:26 AM
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Obviously A. Most people are lucky if they can find that. B is an obvious divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:24 AM
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Of course not, Chad doesn't even have any rules. Rules are to keep the undesirables away
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:35 PM
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