likeawoman Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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-3	A little wisdom from Ralph Waldo Emerson. appropriate username	/r/MensRights	07/05/13 01:42 PM
-4	A little wisdom from Ralph Waldo Emerson. You're misusing that word. An integral characteristic of "mansplaining" is that nobody asked you to do it.	/r/MensRights	07/05/13 11:57 AM
-6	When I was 16, I was denied a spot in homeless shelters with my family due to being a "man". Shelters that only accept women/children are rarely any better	/r/MensRights	08/04/13 04:46 PM
3	When I was 16, I was denied a spot in homeless shelters with my family due to being a "man". Men are not excluded from the majority of shelters. Most homeless shelters are mixed or all male. DV shelters =\= homeless shelters. There do need to be better accommodations for families, but most services are tailored toward the demographic: single men.	/r/MensRights	08/04/13 04:45 PM
0	No Homeless Shelters for Men I'm ever so sorry I didn't reread all your comments every time I came back. That said, your outrage is more a matter of your naivete toward the system and limited scope through which you sought referrals. When you seek shelter, that often unfortunately involves not being able to keep your job. Happens to people in DV shelters, happens to people in homeless shelters. The vast majority of homeless shelters are either for men or mixed, in keeping with the statistics. I could sit here and try to exp…	/r/MensRights	08/04/13 02:52 PM
1	No Homeless Shelters for Men Yeah, I assure you and the OP that there are shelters for men in the metro Pittsburgh area. OP apparently didn't know what to look for or how to look. Generally calling orgs like SA or VOA will get you a referral. Some random web directory isnt gonna give the full picture, especially when you're searching for a single zip code in a major metro area. OP is naive. EDIT: No. 4 WCTC bus to Pittsburgh, Volunteers of America is on Main St.	/r/MensRights	08/04/13 02:14 PM
1	No Homeless Shelters for Men Yeah, and most shelters involve sharing bedrooms with strangers, so it's easier for everyone to gender segregate. Ideally, there'd be private suites, but most agencies have a hard enough time maintaining a medium sized house with a few bedrooms and bunk beds. At the shelter I worked, I would've prefer off site. Less drama, more privacy, more peace. Being in any kind of shelter is hard.	/r/MensRights	08/04/13 02:09 PM
1	No Homeless Shelters for Men I hope so as well, but both the Salvo and the Police would've been able to give referrals. It's also unlikely that a solo homeless man wouldn't have some grasp of the system already. Itinerant homeless people are generally skilled networkers in their own right, even when they're mentally ill (assuming they're not psychotic).	/r/MensRights	07/04/13 06:11 PM
0	No Homeless Shelters for Men I have no idea, but your story doesn't quite make sense. Like I said, maybe you're just naive to the system. What city are we talking about?	/r/MensRights	07/04/13 06:08 PM
-11	No Homeless Shelters for Men Are you somehow laboring under the misapprehension that most homeless services are run by feminists?	/r/MensRights	07/04/13 01:16 PM
2	No Homeless Shelters for Men Its cute that you think a homeless person sleeping on the street is breaking news.	/r/MensRights	07/04/13 12:59 PM
2	No Homeless Shelters for Men What city are we talking about? What you're describing is in no way typical of how homeless services actually work and I can't help but wonder if someone's telling a romantic story about something outside their actual experience. If this actually happened, it'd be easy enough to confirm the circumstances. Also the cops would've known where he could go.	/r/MensRights	07/04/13 12:56 PM
1	No Homeless Shelters for Men Its not remotely typical of amenities for homeless people in the states. It seems much more likely that the OP is either telling tales or just didn't understand the system well enough to know what he was looking at/for.	/r/MensRights	07/04/13 12:54 PM
1	No Homeless Shelters for Men The OP's scenario isn't remotely typical. I'd love to hear where he lives and whether these shelters for women were even for homelessness, as opposed to DV (typically DV shelters and women/children only and male survivors are housed in hotels/motels off site). I've worked with both populations and this sounds more than a little made up, but it's possible he just lacked the experience/resources to know what he's looking for.	/r/MensRights	07/04/13 12:52 PM
1	A non-MR rebuttal to Anti Sarkeesians video: "I personally don’t know if we need a feminist critique of Japanese video games released nearly 30 years ago" I don't really know anything about her other than what I've seen on reddit, but I could swear I saw a picture of her cuddling with a pretty enormous game collection. do you have a link or something explaining otherwise?	/r/MensRights	11/03/13 07:59 PM
2	A non-MR rebuttal to Anti Sarkeesians video: "I personally don’t know if we need a feminist critique of Japanese video games released nearly 30 years ago" Anita doesn't even like games she doesn't?	/r/MensRights	11/03/13 07:17 PM
1	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf The argument between he and I was resolved days ago. You're the one who showed up to stick your nose in without been reading the discussion first. The attitude is yours, bro. Ain't nobody trying to be tough, internet smart person.	/r/MensRights	20/02/13 10:31 PM
1	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf confrontational? you obviously hadn't read the argument you were referring to and I corrected your misinterpretation. the only misunderstanding was yours and it resulted from you not reading the threads you were commenting about. how is that confrontational? you're the one "correcting" me when I'm not actually wrong. seems you're the one looking for confrontation.	/r/MensRights	20/02/13 02:07 PM
1	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf he repeatedly made comments that made it clear that it is his belief that men have NO capacity for procreational consent to begin with. he repeatedly compares a man becoming a father, even deliberately, to slavery, even when challenged about the men in this very sub who seem to think they consented to becoming a father. maybe you should go back and reread his comments.	/r/MensRights	19/02/13 06:44 PM
-1	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf The point wasn't sympathy for her, but how shitty it is for kids when their parents denigrate each other in front of then (and publicly).	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 11:03 PM
1	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Yeah I'm guessing this woman hasn't seen a W2 or a bank account in some time. If you're that determined to really disappear, you can.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 10:51 PM
1	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Typhonblue has repeatedly said that men have no reproductive rights and that no man actually chooses to have children.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 10:44 PM
3	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf :/ yes, excellent analogy	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 10:41 PM
2	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Obviously I appreciate what he spared me, which is why I made it clear that he broke the cycle. That said, I often feel that he should've left altogether and much earlier if he was going to choose to financially divest from us. It was hard enough growing up poor without constantly struggling with how my dad's involvement was so selective and unreliable. The route he took was selfish in its own way. I know how much worse it could be. He made sure we knew (as you may know, one of the greatest stru…	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 10:10 PM
3	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf If I was gonna make shit up to troll, I'd use a sock to hide I was trolling. I think that's how the internet works. Its a true story and like I said elsewhere, my dad's not a terrible person but he is an example of something that MRAs often like to pretend never happens. Generalizing to that effect just makes MRAs look like a terrible caricature of themselves. So thanks, sincerely, for listening.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 10:02 PM
-1	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf I'd hope not.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:58 PM
3	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf If I were a troll, wouldn't I use a sock and obscure any activity or association with SRS? Y'all need to get a grip on the reactionary nonsense and paranoia.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:57 PM
0	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf No?	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:48 PM
1	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf I think he did what he preferred. That's part of the problem. Its not like we haven't discusses these things between us. Severe as it is, his trauma doesn't prevent him from paying his other bills. And hey, thanks for reducing a lifetime of poverty and my own shit to "sorry he couldn't pay for college" while juxtaposing it to your sexual abuse, like I somehow think I have it uniquely bad or worse than you or worse than my dad or whatever smartassed point you're trying to make with disclosing tha…	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:47 PM
0	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Don't all rhetorical questions have assumed answers? Isn't that what makes them rhetorical questions?	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:39 PM
3	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Its a subreddit /r/shitredditsays. It's like /r/subredditdrama, but with a radical feminist/conflict theory approach. I don't know which came first but I follow both.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:34 PM
1	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Is there anything I could say that would not further encourage you to try to pick a fight? I'm guessing no.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:32 PM
1	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf I think this is probably a position y'all should settle among yourselves before taking it to the streets. I've seen plenty of MRAs on here who felt this position is misguided and undermines their role as fathers.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:30 PM
5	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf His borderline personality and PTSD didn't make him incapable of making the money to support us. Shit, it didnt even make him incapable of having some kind of an emotional relationship with us. He keeps in work and he mostly keeps in touch. It made him incapable of caring that it was part of his responsibility as a parent. Does my trauma excuse me from paying my bills? I've never got the impression this is a crowd that advocates the idea that being abused excuses your choices or actions.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:29 PM
3	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Whatever gets you through the night.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:22 PM
6	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Then how, exactly, can I be both a "shitsister" with a history of commenting/posting there as well as having commented/posted here? Its all in my comment/post history. I ain't trying to hide anything. Just trying to have interesting conversations with interesting people. Its not like it would be hard to use a sockpuppet here if I had some magical ulterior motives.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:20 PM
6	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf I suppose that's a question that you should have with MRAs who chose.to have kids.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:16 PM
6	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Its not underlying, but only intermittently treated. He was raised by an extremely abusive pedophile and a codependent alcoholic and did multiple tours of combat in Vietnam. He has PTSD and is an alcoholic. He was never physically or sexually abusive and is not a pedophile, but he turned out to be a less than stellar dad. I love him and he loves us, but once he left he didn't have any problem leaving our mom to support us. I understand why he turned out as he did and am grateful he didn't turn o…	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:16 PM
7	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf So what you're saying is every man on here who actively sought out having children is actually a slave in denial?	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 09:02 PM
6	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Its cute how this community gets so angry about getting tarred with the same brush as "real" misogynist, but is perfectly happy to mindlessly attack anyone who's ever done anything on SRS. Y'all are seriously the worst caricatures of yourselves a lot of the time.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 08:59 PM
5	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Its a Bob Dylan reference. Its also pretty clear from the comment history everyone's so fixated on that I'm a chick. And yet...	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 08:57 PM
4	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf I don't know what constitutes an SRS type, but I don't think I'm the one refusing to have a conversation on this thread. Seriously, this community is its own worst enemy.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 08:55 PM
-3	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf I love that even with "woman" in my name I'm still a man on reddit.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 08:50 PM
7	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf And its really offensive to suggest that every man who chooses to marry and have kids are effectively slaves. Is that MRS doctrine now, cause I've had lots of civil conversations with men on here who love, want, and provide for their kids without accusing their mothers of enslaving them.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 08:47 PM
5	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf You know what's funny? Nobody on SRS has ever assumed I'm a misogynist because I've commented or posted here. But you've concluded I'm a misandrist cause I've commented there? Dunno what to tell you bro. If you wanna point out what I've said or done that is misandrist, maybe that'd be a start.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 08:44 PM
4	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Because he preferred to drink his excess income, which wasnt much to begin with. He's irresponsible with money and most of the time we were out of sight out of mind. He's not a terrible person, but he was never much of a provider and he doesnt really understand how to be a dad. My mom never made much of a big deal out of it and paid for us to visit when we wanted to.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 08:41 PM
0	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf I heat to break it to you, but nobody coerced my dad into having kids and commenting on SRS is a pretty fucking weak reason to pretend I'm somehow lying. I'm glad that defending a stranger who wanted children then refused to pay to them is so important around here, but the fact is that my dad went out of his way not to pay child support and coercion or not wanting relationships with us were never factors in that. But surely y'all know my dad better than I do, cause I've posted in SRS and his bei…	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 07:44 PM
2	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf 1 my father to this day goes on and on about how loved and wanted we are/were. Not every pregnancy is an act of coercion. 2 in the nineties, it was not the case that child support was networked. It was years before they even connected Michigan and Georgia, and then it was still high impossible to track him working in a third state, often under the table. Don't believe me, but that doesn't change the facts.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 07:40 PM
2	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf That's sweet.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 07:37 PM
-3	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf Because one post and a handful of comments in a place you don't like apparently defines me? I post/comment a lot more here than there, but whatevs.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 07:36 PM
-18	Have you seen this woman? x-post from r/wtf um, some deadbeat men did give meaningful consent. my parents were together years before they mutually decided to have me, then my brother. then when I was 11 my dad split and not only left our state, but got a job working in a state other than the one he lived in, just to avoid being compelled to pay child support. not all deadbeat dads are some kind of victim of the system. some of them are just deadbeats.	/r/MensRights	15/02/13 01:33 PM
1	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. somehow I doubt these children just magically deviate from everything we know about child development and sexuality. again, try as you may to twist it into some kind of one off situation, sexual development is not unknown territory.	/r/MensRights	06/02/13 01:27 PM
2	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. preschoolers are past the age where they put things in their mouth regularly. that's a toddler behavior. at this age, typical sexual play amounts to masturbation and showing each other parts. having worked with kids this age and with child development specialists, yeah, it is that hard to believe that this happened accidentally.	/r/MensRights	05/02/13 01:10 PM
0	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. just because you didn't experience negative outcomes does not mean that your experience was not outside the ordinary or that it was a healthy experience. and I don't fucking care what you think of my attitude. you came across as pretty fucking condescending from jump.	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 09:17 PM
-1	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. how many people have to point out that this is actually not at all age-typical before you guys get a grip? any child development expert would tell you this is a red flag. are they all evil SRS feminazis too?	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 09:15 PM
1	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. buh? these kids are well past the oral stage, according to Freud. even if Freud were still some kind of leading authority on childhood development and sexuality, he has nothing to do with this.	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 09:14 PM
1	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. I've posted on SRS, but a great deal less than I've posted here. god forbid people actually consider the content of comments instead of referring to a blacklist and downvoted accordingly. thanks for concurring. it's really disturbing to me to see commentors trying to rationalize this as "exploration" or "play."	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 09:05 PM
-2	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. you were summarizing with a quote bar... in a way that didn't actually summarize and totally decontextualized what I actually said. right-o. so did you have any "studies" or anything to add?	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 07:04 PM
-1	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. fair enough. I just want it to be clear that none of the children in this situation are "predators." framing it in terms of who "started it" is only useful if the point is to deal with the adult abuser[s] behind this, not to somehow make this 5 year old any out to be any more of a predator than the 4 year old boy is.	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 07:03 PM
5	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. what you're talking about is typical. engaging in oral sex is not. I worked at a day care and dealt with my fair share of kids and catching them "playing doctor" never included this.	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 06:54 PM
3	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. oral sex at that age absolutely is unusual. showing each other genitals and masturbation wouldn't be unusual. this kind of sexual experimentation in a child is.	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 06:52 PM
-3	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. also, fuck you for "quoting" something I didn't say to make me sound like a ridiculous prude.	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 06:49 PM
2	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. there's a world of developmental difference between wanting to see what other kids look like naked and performing oral sex on another child. child sexual development isn't uncharted territory. it has nothing to do with feminism to point out that this is not developmentally typical and that this kind of behavior can usually be linked back to abuse.	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 06:45 PM
-1	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. what it "seems to you" isn't really relevant, especially when you're asking for studies. I've worked in a day care. I've also worked with child development experts as part of work with gay youth. sexual development isn't some mystery. there are people who actually do study it, in addition to professionals who work around kids enough to get a good grasp on what's typical and what's not. preschoolers play "I'll show you mine..." and hump furniture... they don't strip down and perform oral sex on e…	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 06:38 PM
-3	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. yeah, if I were one of these parents, I'd suspect the teacher[s] first.	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 04:16 PM
-2	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. what difference does that make? I don't care what the combination of genders was, mouth to genital contact is not typical of preschoolers' sexual exploration. all of the kids involved need help and it's pretty safe to say that one/some of them are being molested (almost surely whichever kid "started it"), which is what precocious sexual play generally indicates. her "starting it" doesn't make it any more normal or healthy than a boy "starting it."	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 03:31 PM
-5	Victim is labeled a predator because he's a boy. Boy is a 4 year old preschooler who received oral sex from a 5 year old female preschooler. this is hardly age typical sex play edit: to clarify, I don't think that the boy is a predator. but that doesn't mean that this is normal, healthy behavior. preschoolers don't put their mouths on each other's genitals as part of normal exploration.	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 03:16 PM
1	Article by woman in college paper: "The women’s rights of today promote special treatment of the female sex, treatment that can prove counter-productive." GR winning that was a joke. When I worked with gay youth, I had a decent amount of contact with queer orgs in GR and they leave a lot to be desired, considering it's the second biggest city in the state. One of many examples being that they have massive, beautiful public space downtown that accommodates all manner of public events, but Pride is held out in Comstock Park someplace you can't even see from the road. GR only seems progressive to locals who take it in the context of the even more con…	/r/MensRights	16/01/13 12:40 PM
5	Article by woman in college paper: "The women’s rights of today promote special treatment of the female sex, treatment that can prove counter-productive." if you think that conservative Calvinists from west Michigan are gonna give a damn why she's anti-feminist, as opposed to just being excited she is anti-feminist, I'm gonna guess you're not familiar with the area.	/r/MensRights	15/01/13 05:43 PM
8	Article by woman in college paper: "The women’s rights of today promote special treatment of the female sex, treatment that can prove counter-productive." Grand Valley is a small public university in the most vocally conservative region of Michigan. I'd be surprised if it's even received as particularly controversial.	/r/MensRights	15/01/13 04:18 PM
11	Never told anyone this, need to get it off my chest. now that you have the thread that holds all that symptomology together, you are primed to finally work through this and reclaim your life. get help. it's time.	/r/MensRights	28/12/12 02:36 PM
11	Never told anyone this, need to get it off my chest. you should really think about seeing a counselor. it's likely the only way you'll ever be able to reclaim your own sexuality is by working through what happened to you and that's the sort of thing that requires outside objective help. good luck.	/r/MensRights	28/12/12 02:30 PM
5	At a party and its doing my head in advocating violence is okay when it rhymes!	/r/MensRights	27/12/12 04:55 PM
2	At a party and its doing my head in she should. but obviously that didn't happen. at which point the ball is in your court. I don't know how many ways I can say "hitting is not okay" without it being clear to you that I mean "hitting is not okay." stop trying to rationalize violence and consider that what other people do is not an excuse for you to do something you shouldn't.	/r/MensRights	27/12/12 02:41 PM
2	At a party and its doing my head in it's cute that you want to pretend I'm ranting, but I'm not sure "use your words" is a particularly extreme position. it really sounds like you're just the kind of person who likes to fight. it amazes me how, in a world where people with your attitudes are supposed to be normal, I've never gotten into a physical fight and somehow my life is fine. shit, none of the men I am friends with have been in physical fights since they were kids. I don't know how any adult can rationalize it, especially ov…	/r/MensRights	27/12/12 02:34 PM
6	At a party and its doing my head in you responded that walking away wasn't a viable option because you'd be called a pussy and embarrassed. so yeah, seems it's about embarrassment. it's not acceptable for anyone to physically assault their partner. if someone hits you, you should remove yourself from the situation, not hit them back. it amazes me how controversial this kindergarten approach to dealing with bullies is around here. beating the shit out of some guy for slapping you would be equally immature. why is it acceptable in s…	/r/MensRights	27/12/12 02:17 PM
5	At a party and its doing my head in maybe don't date chicks who you think live to emasculate/humiliate you seriously, being embarrassed is worth hitting someone over? what are you, eight?	/r/MensRights	27/12/12 02:04 PM
1	My Son's Mother "Canceled" His Christmas With Me, Is Denying Visitation and Telephone Visitation... and I Am Getting Revenge! this just seems ridiculously oversimplified to me. but if you see having kids and being married as nothing but sacrifice, you probably shouldn't do it. I just really don't get the idea that the goal of MR should be to convince all men to not marry or have children. what about all the happy, fulfilled, honored, and appreciated husbands and fathers out there?	/r/MensRights	26/12/12 01:59 PM
2	My Son's Mother "Canceled" His Christmas With Me, Is Denying Visitation and Telephone Visitation... and I Am Getting Revenge! I think the issue here is presenting these as an "either-or" situation. I mean, are you saying that there are no men who live happy lives as fathers and/or husbands?	/r/MensRights	26/12/12 01:56 PM
2	My Son's Mother "Canceled" His Christmas With Me, Is Denying Visitation and Telephone Visitation... and I Am Getting Revenge! That sounds... fulfilling?	/r/MensRights	25/12/12 05:32 PM
4	My Son's Mother "Canceled" His Christmas With Me, Is Denying Visitation and Telephone Visitation... and I Am Getting Revenge! The message of the men's rights movement is "don't have children?"	/r/MensRights	25/12/12 05:01 PM
1	Today I exercised my only reproductive right. if you're not going to refuse support, why get the DNA test and why make it contingent on her asking for support? I don't get what you'd be accomplishing, other than kind of fucking up your relationship with your kids. I'm not a huge fan of the way child support is enforced either, but shit, if my dad questioned my paternity, I'd feel like he was trying to ditch out on me.	/r/MensRights	13/11/12 05:04 PM
1	Today I exercised my only reproductive right. planned parenthood works on a sliding scale	/r/MensRights	13/11/12 04:40 PM
1	Today I exercised my only reproductive right. you've been their father for a decade, but refuse to help support them without a DNA test? I'm kind of horrified you'd write off children you raised like that. I can't imagine how I'd feel if the only father I'd ever own basically told me to go kick rocks because of something that I had no control over.	/r/MensRights	13/11/12 04:39 PM
7	I think young men should grow up exposed to stories like this (Comic) really? the evil smirk didn't tip you off?	/r/MensRights	09/11/12 03:11 PM
2	Update in "Man Asks do I know you" case seeing someone you think you know and it turning out to be someone else is a mistake. grabbing someone from behind in a bearhug without being sure who it is is fucking stupid. I generally make sure I know a person before I hug them. shit, I generally make sure a person is cool with being hugged before I hug them. you can't just go around grabbin folks.	/r/MensRights	26/10/12 07:11 PM
2	Update in "Man Asks do I know you" case I think it was probably the "grabbing a complete stranger in a hug" part and not the "do I know you?" part that resulted in an assault charge. are we arguing that he was entitled to grab strangers? cause I'm not sure that not wanting to be grabbed is a gendered issue.	/r/MensRights	26/10/12 06:38 PM
1	Update in "Man Asks do I know you" case on accident? how the hell do you hug someone on accident? are you in the habit of hugging people you don't know well enough to positively identify?	/r/MensRights	26/10/12 06:36 PM
-5	Update in "Man Asks do I know you" case so brave.	/r/MensRights	26/10/12 06:31 PM
4	Saw this bumper sticker at a light. Apparently unborn males are already priveleged yeah, that's pretty clearly the case	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 01:45 PM
5	Saw this bumper sticker at a light. Apparently unborn males are already priveleged it's a pro-life sticker attempting to imply that pro-choice feminists are hypocrites. it's probably from Feminists for Life.	/r/MensRights	25/10/12 01:43 PM
3	In the VP debate, Paul Ryan said they'd make abortion illegal, except in cases of rape. Wouldn't that result in women, who are no longer able to get an abortion otherwise, falsely accusing men of raping them? um, that's not entirely how amending the constitution works. even if they had the votes to put forth the amendment (2/3 of each house), they'd also have to get ratification via 3/4 of the state legislatures. and it all has to be done relatively quickly. between 1789 and 1933, we have ratified a whopping 27 amendments to the constitution. the first 10 (more than 1/3 of all the amendments ever ratified), the bill of rights, were all proposed in 1789. we have not ratified a new amendment since 1933…	/r/MensRights	12/10/12 03:57 PM
1	For a week, I've been falsely accused of sending rape threats to another redditor. Yesterday, a redditor threatened to dox me and tell my boss, mom and dad that I threaten women with rape. I reported it to the admins, and within an hour, they were both banned. in the context of what the quote is actually referring to, its ridiculously hyperbolic. being banned from reddit isn't exactly being taken to a death camp by government forces. you're not doing anyone any favors with that nonsense. and I'm with the commentors who think that it's probably not doing MR any favors to align themselves with subs like creepshots.	/r/MensRights	12/10/12 01:04 PM
-1	For a week, I've been falsely accused of sending rape threats to another redditor. Yesterday, a redditor threatened to dox me and tell my boss, mom and dad that I threaten women with rape. I reported it to the admins, and within an hour, they were both banned. yes, this is definitely an appropriate time to call down the Third Reich... :/	/r/MensRights	12/10/12 12:45 PM
1	Feminists trip on their own feet: Women refuse to share Title IX pool facilities with a transgender woman -- Feminists say "it is very wrong for transgender people to use & abuse Title IX to push their perversion on to Bio women" irregardless, indeed.	/r/MensRights	09/10/12 01:48 PM
2	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. okay so she is being prosecuted. That's good.	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 04:50 PM
2	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. yeah, assault, mutilation, torture... also not okay. and honestly, I have never personally known a feminist who condoned this sort of thing. not saying it's impossible, just saying that the people I personally traffic with don't support this kind of shit whether the perpetrator is male or female. that woman who drugged and mutilated her husband was not charged?	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 03:04 PM
1	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. um, yet another thing I do not think is okay? I don't know how many ways I need to say "murder isn't okay." fuck, I don't support the death penalty or revenge-killing child molestors either. life isn't a movie. are we clear yet?	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 01:44 PM
5	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. if this were a conversation on r/feminism or whatever and the genders were reversed, MR would not be cool with it.	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 01:10 PM
7	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. And There's a lake of stew And of whiskey too You can paddle all around it In a big canoe In the Big Rock Candy Mountains	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 03:03 AM
10	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Bigoted against whom?	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 02:56 AM
4	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. I don't support imprisonment for nonsupport, its counterproductive. I certainly dont support spousal support in a situation where the "supporting" party is the one without income, though thats pretty dubious and is one of the things that doesnt totally ring true in this post. Same with him inheriting all their debt... in a community property state. That doesn't change that I don't think its comparable to slavery.	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 02:05 AM
3	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. In michigan, child support doesn't count unless the court sees it. If my dad sent my mom cash, she had to notify the friend of the court (though he lived in another state, so there weren't many consequences if he didn't pay at all). I'm surprised Pennsylvania is so different. It certainly seems like you'd want some kind of third party verification, even in amicable situations.	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 12:33 AM
0	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. At the point that you've shot someone and set them on fire, the quotation marks around psycho are probably superfluous. That said, what ( other than movies ) makes you think this would fly?	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:55 PM
1	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. But a lawyer wouldn't buy this and jerk him off over it. MR, on the other hand, is swallowing it hook, line, and sinker.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:53 PM
-1	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Hook line and sinker	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:52 PM
1	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Even if you beat her nearly to death, prison wouldn't be a very long term solution. I mean, I guess yuou could rack up more time inside... or tack on a kidnapping charge or something to really make it stick... but I'm guessing you're not very experienced with the criminal justice system.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:50 PM
6	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Where was your friend that he wasn't explicitly told that he had to pay via a Friend of the Court or equivalent office?	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:48 PM
5	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. You do realize Michael Douglas's character wasn't being presented as a role model, yes?	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:42 PM
-2	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and continue to disagree. This situation, in addition to being maaaaaaaade up, would not be slavery if it were real. But thanks for reiterating the same shit everyone else said.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:36 PM
-7	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. It meets the definition if you ignore that she does not own him or actually control his life. Get a grip. And seriously, this story is such bullshit, its kind of funny to see people rushing to get their rhetoric on here. Y'all getting trolled. And you're playing right into it. Sound like a bunch of male Andrea Dworkin parodies.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:30 PM
20	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. You being a woman does nothing to change the situation in my mind. I do not agree that some people don't deserve to live and I think it does shit for the reputation/image of MRAs to circle jerk over murdering some lady for being a sadistic asshole. You're no better than the men spreading that shit. But hey, thanks for trying to use being a woman to persuade me. Very MRA of you.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:28 PM
8	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Fine, being a sadistic asshole. But we're talking about a whole circle jerk of fantasy involving a bunch of people who don't even know if this melodrama is true. But they still jumped right on the "kill the count" train. This isn't about legit catharsis, this is about taking advantage of an opportunity to say whats in mind. I never suggested it was more acceptable to be the kind of asshole the imaginary ex is than it is to be the kind of asshole who sits around waiting for excuses to wish violen…	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:24 PM
-1	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. The post I'm responding to is not the only one I'm referring to.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:21 PM
0	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. I think the post is fabricated in such a way that either intentionally or inadvertantly invites people to say fucked up shit they think. Either y'all getting trolled or y'all trolling yourselves. Either way, I think this is, unfortunately, more common than the MRA community wants to cop to. Not every posts creates cover for "kill the cunt" but when they're cartoonish or horrifying enough to make people comfortable, this shit comes up pretty regularly. Though this post is the most disturbing in m…	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:20 PM
-3	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Or he could move out of the state. And even then, he's a slave to California, not her. Its funny how direly important it is to some com mentors here to frame this in the most extreme terms (ie slavery) in order to justify the most extreme reaction ( ie murder). It would be embarrassing to those with self awareness.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:15 PM
-7	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Even if this were realistically "taking everything he has," that still is not slavery. As it is, that's hardly the case. Courses of action that aren't murder have been presented, they just seem less satisfying to folks here. Which, again, is disturbing.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:13 PM
28	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Yes, it bothers me. That doesn't make it a reason to kill people. There's a whole lotta space between "complete asshole" and "worthy of death."	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 11:11 PM
-5	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Applying the word "slave" to this situation isn't just silly, it's disrespectful. What he's experiencing is super shitty (except that it's clearly partially if not totally fabricated) and unfair and abusive. If this woman exists, she's a prize asshole. But she does not own him and this is not slavery. Saying so just totally devalues your point, like those assholes who compare legal abortion to the holocaust. I don't know what you're talking about with the "some kind of abuse syndrome" shit. The …	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 10:42 PM
-2	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. She's not violating his rights. Christ on a cracker.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 10:36 PM
2	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Killing someone for being a dick, no matter how dickish, is murder. And even if your fantasies of violent revolution were valid, killing the person who took advantage of the law hardly does anything to change the law. We're talking about murder. You sound like one of those operation rescue nut jobs.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 10:23 PM
2	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Ask one of the several people who've done so.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 10:21 PM
5	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Are you not seeing them on this post, right now? Cause they're explicit, relatively abundant, up voted and the people who are complaining are getting down voted to hell in several places. What you imagine to be natural doesn't change that the MRA movement ostensibly doesn't condone violence or murder, and yet here we are.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 10:20 PM
1	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Yes, where violence and murder is concerned, you pretty clearly said more so than women. You basically said that men can't help but murder or assault people when they're wronged. Does that not count as misandry? Is misandry okay when its a man couching it in essentialist pseudo-biology/evolutionary psychology?	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 10:16 PM
7	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Murdering someone is not "taking back your rights." its murder. When women who age abused kill their spouses, this group is not okay with that. Why should men killing their spouses be okay? It's funny how controversial the idea that murder is wrong, whether you're a man or a woman, seems to be on here lately.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 10:15 PM
18	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. I think that "venting" by making non-jokes about killing people is uncool. Men or women. You don't get to kill people for being assholes.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 10:12 PM
-1	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. There are several com mentors getting upvotedor advocating murder. And it rings false because there are facts that don't make sense and because the case doesn't exist, not because the wife is cartoonishly evil. She is, however, cartoonishly evil.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 10:11 PM
0	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. There have been several comments advocating the murder without the arson. And not implied, explicitly stated.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 10:10 PM
3	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. I'm not a Christian. It was a rhetorical "Jesus"	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 10:09 PM
1	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Isn't it funny how posts like this manage to ping not one or two, but almost ALL the MRA points at once? A whole lotta this shit don't make sense, but so many commentors are busy jerking off to the idea of murdering some imaginary mega-cunt that justifies their hating women to notice. This subreddit is becoming chockablock with out and out woman haters and I don't see how that helps the cause.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 09:21 PM
27	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. "I'm not condoning violence but I 100% condone violence."	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 09:12 PM
2	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Ah yes, a tasteless screen name... a circle jerk of comments about burning people alive. So very similar.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 09:11 PM
8	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. So what you're saying is that men are bioologically redisposed to domestic abuse and murder? Cause that sounds like the kind of suggestion that would go over like a lead balloon in here if a feminist said it. I think a lot of men would appreciate not being lumped in with your aggression issue.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 09:10 PM
3	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Arson, with a side of murder in a lot of the response comments :/	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 09:07 PM
26	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. Jesus, thank you. Every time I read a break up/divorce post on here its riddled with un-jokes about killing the woman. Its more than a little disturbing.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 09:06 PM
43	State of California made me homeless and a slave for the rest of my life. It is amazing how often murdering spouses/exes is brought up on here. And by amazing I mean disturbing.	/r/MensRights	05/09/12 09:05 PM
0	Today I got confronted for being in public with my kids without a woman with me. yeah, nothing like calling someone a cunt in front of your grade school aged daughters. great role modeling.	/r/MensRights	14/08/12 02:37 PM
2	It really hit me how aggressively feminism and permeated society. what does E! News have to do with feminism?	/r/MensRights	20/07/12 02:39 PM
1	My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. Recourses? saying someone "deserves" to be hit over a car, that's failing pre-school level reasoning. the distinction you're trying to make is non-existent.	/r/MensRights	17/07/12 12:50 PM
2	My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. Recourses? I think saying "I didn't realize I was doing it" sounds better than "I blacked out." that said, ultimately we are all expected to be in control of our actions. you're not gonna make a Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity case here, so the best path forward is "I did it. I did not control my anger. I was wrong." not being in control of yourself is not, generally speaking, a defense. to a judge, it's just gonna sound like an excuse. what you're gonna need to understand in order to make this work out w…	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 08:09 PM
2	My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. Recourses? if I were giving advice I'd suggest turning yourself in, getting a court appointed attorney to do the negotiating, and getting yourself into a batterer intervention program as soon as your bonded out [ETA: you can probably get out on a Personal Recognizance bond if you turn yourself in -- you may even be able to get yourself in front of a magistrate and out on a PR bond without even actually being fully booked or jailed] and actually doing the program. usually any program that takes court ordere…	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 07:47 PM
1	My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. Recourses? this kind of genius logic lands dumbasses in jail, whining about how they don't understand what they did wrong. pro tip: other than self-defense, you're not gonna convince a judge that assaulting someone was justifiable. grow. up. "no hitting" is literally pre-school level shit.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 07:36 PM
2	My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. Recourses? nobody serves 3 years on a first offense for DV, least of all with a plea, which you'd get for turning yourself in. I worked with a dude who had multiple violent crimes (as well as non-violent) in his jacket, assaulted his wife, discharged a gun in the course of the assault, took a felony federal gun charge in addition to the DV, and served 90 days. he did more time for his felony drunk driving. I never, ever worked with anyone, even on a third charge (in Michigan, that's a felony) who served mo…	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 07:33 PM
1	My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. Recourses? the battered woman defense refers to battered women, not emotionally abused women. also, it's no kind of guarantee. when I taught batterer intervention, every female perpetrator I worked with was also a documented victim of domestic violence. didn't get them out of shit.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 07:23 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. weren't you going for coffee? don't let me keep you now.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:56 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. no, actually, it was an observation that you clearly weren't taught not to hit. what you read into it is about you. I didn't twist a thing.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:56 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. if you weren't desperate, you wouldn't bring up nonsense like grammar or downvotes. and if you can't understand the difference between disagreeing and suppressing opinions, you've officially rounded out the stereotype.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:55 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. you are an exercise in arguing-on-the-internet sterotypes, down to the victory flounce. like I said, having your opinion doesn't change how wrong you are. enjoy your coffee and try not to punch any "bitches" in line.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:54 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. so chalk up your whining about downvotes under "shit that has nothing to do with me." if you're so confident in your opinions, why do you keep trying to shift the goalposts to shit like grammar and downvotes? desperation is ugly on anyone.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:51 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. and has there ever been a time when someone brought up grammar on the internet when it wasn't because they thought they were losing the argument. somebody's a desperate debbie.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:50 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. I'm not twisting words. you're responding, consistently, to things that weren't said. it's text, dude. go back and look. you brought up "not receiving enough love" out of the fucking blue. you suggested that I was in a legal field out of the blue. as far as what I was or wasn't taught, I guess I'd rather prioritize treating myself and other human beings with respect over grammar on the internet. like I said, I haven't found my reddit comment syntax to be much of a career problem. and I gotta say…	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:49 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. I haven't downvoted a single one of your comments. can you say the same?	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:44 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. your assumption wasn't wrong; your reading was wrong. after you said I couldn't read, even. it's funny you said "not receiving enough love," cause I never said, or even implied that. I said that adults failed you. they failed to teach you that hitting someone outside self-defense is wrong. the fact that you projected "not enough love" into that is horrifyingly telling. if I didn't feel sorry before you before, I sure do now. go ahead and stick to your guns, bro. doesn't make you any less wrong.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:42 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. Problem is, I don't think or feel I am wrong. yes, yes that is the problem. I'm not arguing opinion. I'm arguing the law. I happen to have a lot of experience working with people convicted of DV. I'm actually not angry and I think you might be projecting a tad. but at the end of the day, none of that matters, because your opinion is entirely irrelevant to the law, which, again, states that you can't hit a person because you don't like what they said. I thought you were done.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:39 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. I'm jumping the gun? you hit "save." you're clearly not even reading my posts, since you've somehow concluded that my field is law, in spite of my stating explicitly "I taught batterer intervention." keep projecting that anger nonsense; it's an excellent distraction from what anyone reading this conversation can see about you.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:38 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. if you knew what was right or wrong, you wouldn't be rationalizing anyone hitting anyone over words. my assumptions are based on your stated moral code. if they're wrong, its because you've misrepresented yourself. if "don't hit people for what they say" is black-and-white and me getting up on my high horse, I don't know what to tell you. I never said or implied in any way that I practice law. I taught batterer intervention, which is what I said. I'm a social worker. how I type comments on reddi…	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:36 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. nice job completely fucking content editing your comment after posting it. also, my practice is hardly at issue here. anyone who's worked extensively with perpetrators would back me on this. in large part because we actually care what happens to the people we work with, and allowing them to rationalize hitting people makes their lives worse and harder, not better and easier. you don't help people by excusing them doing things to hurt themselves; assaulting a person is harmful to you, as well as …	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:31 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. I hate to break it to you, but disagreeing with you is not mutually exclusive to having read what you said. you're done because you have nothing but your feelings and ridiculous assumptions about the legal matter at hand (clearly, not even "fake" credentials... or seemingly any actual life experience... to your name) to argue. you've spent damn near a dozen comments arguing that someone deserved to be physically assaulted for something they SAID. if you can't see why that's a problem, you were f…	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:26 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. I can see why you think that hitting someone for upsetting you is justifiable, since you clearly can't separate your emotions from reality. I don't care if you think I've put myself on a pedestal or faked my "Credentials" as someone with the oh so auspicious experience of teaching batterer intervention. the "one aspect" I'm focusing on is not up for debate, no matter how she fucked him over. and it wouldn't be if the genders were reversed. the moral of this story is SESAME STREET LEVEL SIMPLE: Y…	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:22 PM
1	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. you don't get to punch people for emotional abuse, either. I never worked with a single perpetrator (out of dozens), male or female, whose emotional abuse was taken into account as a mitigating circumstance in their assaulting someone. in fact, I taught batterer intervention to a room full of women, almost all of whom had legal histories of being the victims of physical abuse; their histories were not taken as mitigating circumstances when they were charged with domestic violence. you don't get …	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 05:08 PM
1	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. one probably shouldn't cite one's Buddhism while itemizing violent and vindictive acts they've committed against others with pride. as Buddhists go, you're not trying. Christians have nothing to do with it. I'm not one, you're not one, it's not related.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 04:46 PM
1	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. you're right, I'm not the one who sets rules about assault. the law does. acting as though there's a level of hurt feelings that justifies a physical assault makes you/him/those justifying sound like reactionary children who can't follow simple rules. isn't "don't hit," like, pre-school level social contract?	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 04:45 PM
1	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. nobody deserves being hit, male or female, over hurt feelings. it's really that simple. rationalising violence, with or without a "blackout," isn't doing anyone any favors.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 04:44 PM
4	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. "she deserved it" = "rationalising it" I never said the whole subreddit was on board. I just expressed shock at the number that are.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 04:42 PM
0	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. Buddhists don't punch people because they can't control their emotions.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 02:12 PM
7	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. man, the judge is just gonna love you. who knows how this divorce could've turned out, but you're doing everything you can to fuck yourself.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 02:11 PM
5	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. its not like its okay to go around hitting adults for upsetting you	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 02:09 PM
0	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. gotta make up some craaaaazy story to justify that he punched her in the face for cheating on him.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 02:06 PM
4	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. I am horrified at the number of commentors on here bending over backward to rationalize anyone hitting anyone over hurt feelings. how the hell does this do anything to combat negative perceptions of MRAs?	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 02:05 PM
0	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. what part of "you're not allowed to hit people" is unclear?	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 02:03 PM
2	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. the law takes into account whether or not it was "deserved" in that the law states that nobody "deserves" to be assaulted outside self-defense. I am shocked at the amount of open defense of assault for hurt feelings on this post. not exactly doing MRAs any favors here, fellas.	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 02:01 PM
1	UPDATE My soon to be ex-wife just had my pride and joy towed out of my garage. hitting someone for hurting your feelings is not "fighting fire with fire." he'd be out of line hitting a man for this as well. is not using violence to solve your emotional problems really such a foreign concept?	/r/MensRights	16/07/12 01:55 PM
1	Miss New Hampshire arrested for 'battering her boyfriend'... the second man she's been jailed for beating in TWO months \| Relevant because there is no Violence-against-men-act; after all women don't commit domestic violence that's absolutely untrue. the DV organization/shelter where I worked served men. since the living spaces were communal, we put male victims up at a motel.	/r/MensRights	13/07/12 08:06 PM
4	Miss New Hampshire arrested for 'battering her boyfriend'... the second man she's been jailed for beating in TWO months \| Relevant because there is no Violence-against-men-act; after all women don't commit domestic violence based on my work, I don't think that harsher jail sentences across the board is necessarily the right answer, but the variability and the crazy standards where drug laws are concerned are boggling. honestly, I think most abusive people need intervention and education. the main benefit of jail is separating them from the victim, but that only works so well anyway and going to jail and/or being on probation are ridiculous financial hardships that often breed resentment and stoke the feelings of pe…	/r/MensRights	12/07/12 03:01 PM
6	Miss New Hampshire arrested for 'battering her boyfriend'... the second man she's been jailed for beating in TWO months \| Relevant because there is no Violence-against-men-act; after all women don't commit domestic violence based on my experience working with perpetrators/probation, the psych eval is pretty unlikely, actually. a batterer intervention/anger management course is much, much more likely. usually a psych isn't ordered unless children are involved, to evaluate any concerns about reunification. a psych eval would have no bearing on the vast majority of DV proceedings, irrespective of the sex of the perpetrator.	/r/MensRights	12/07/12 01:23 PM
3	Miss New Hampshire arrested for 'battering her boyfriend'... the second man she's been jailed for beating in TWO months \| Relevant because there is no Violence-against-men-act; after all women don't commit domestic violence in Michigan, male DV perps rarely get more than a day or two until their third conviction. usually first offense is pled down to a jostling or some other lesser charge. second offense is less likely to get a non DV plea and usually when a perp gets sent to batterer intervention classes/anger management. third offense that is actually classified as a DV can draw a felony, but that tends to depend a lot on resources and other past offenses. in my work with domestic violence perpetrators, I never m…	/r/MensRights	12/07/12 01:21 PM
2	Don't think of an elephant. The only exception is when a women he trusted did something so unspeakable, so abhorrent, that he felt murder was justified. wait, huh? i'm reasonably sure its not that simple.	/r/MensRights	10/07/12 05:34 PM
1	Mathematical Proof That The Media is Sexist and Bad at Math \| Cracked.com I think crawdaddyjoe's point was more: are feminists the ones purporting that men are just more promiscuous than women?	/r/MensRights	22/06/12 03:54 PM
4	There ought to be a law against this. they do. I dunno if you get to clubs much, but many have posted dress codes that are clearly geared toward giving them an excuse to deny black people entry. obviously they don't apply across the board, but an atmosphere of passive aggressive hostility works wonders.	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 12:54 PM
2	I just wanted to say that I believe strongly that feminism has destroyed any and all ambition I have had to be a family man. the point isn't the specific circumstances, it is the general context and the law. if you want to be protected from someone putting you out of your home against your will, there have to be laws in place. he can pursue this matter civilly, as the police suggested, to recoup losses or his actual things, but you can't tell someone who legally resides in your home to just get out, and you can't expect the police to treat them taking things that you held in common (no matter who originally paid for t…	/r/MensRights	04/05/12 04:41 PM
0	I just wanted to say that I believe strongly that feminism has destroyed any and all ambition I have had to be a family man. so if you take up with a chick and move in with her to an apartment where her name is the only one on the lease and she decides one day that you have to leave and she's keeping everything in the home, that should be legal, because she was the one on the lease? there's a legal eviction process for a reason.	/r/MensRights	04/05/12 02:49 PM
1	I just wanted to say that I believe strongly that feminism has destroyed any and all ambition I have had to be a family man. I don't know about the law in every state, but in Michigan, if a person lives somewhere, that's their home. in order to remove someone from their own home, they have to be evicted through the legal process. they don't have to be on a lease or deed, it just has to be where they live. just like a domestic violence victim has to evict their abuser if they cohabitate, anyone who has broken up with their live-in partner has to follow the eviction process if they want them out. irrespective of gender …	/r/MensRights	04/05/12 02:48 PM
7	And so the tables have turned!! "dont be an asshole" is probably good advice for everyone	/r/MensRights	30/04/12 11:50 AM
1	Maybe if people had taken domestic abuse by women more seriously, we wouldn't have lost Phil Hartman. the DV shelter I worked at didn't distinguish between services for men and services for women in terms of funding. in fact, men got special (read: more expensive) accommodations since they couldn't shelter in the same place as women. but we never denied anyone services based on their sex, on the perpetrator or victim side. please do correct me with citations if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the majorit of funding is largely based on the existence of intimate partner violence (for examp…	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 07:07 PM
1	Maybe if people had taken domestic abuse by women more seriously, we wouldn't have lost Phil Hartman. I'm a social worker. this situation, at the working poor/poor socioeconomic level, isn't news to me. I was simply stating a point of fact. I included "[supposed to be]" for a reason. I don't know anything more about Foley's situation than what's been discussed here, so I can hardly comment on his personal hardship.	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 06:58 PM
3	Maybe if people had taken domestic abuse by women more seriously, we wouldn't have lost Phil Hartman. I dunno how it works in Canada, but in the US visitation rights are not [supposed to be] contingent on child support.	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 01:18 PM
2	Maybe if people had taken domestic abuse by women more seriously, we wouldn't have lost Phil Hartman. that's weird, cause I've worked pretty extensively with both male and female abusers and usually "crazy" is the euphemism I heard for women. "[having] a temper" was usually the male euphemism. much like "I was upset" usually meant "I was enraged" for women, and "I was hurt/sad" for men. just my anecdata.	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 01:16 PM
1	PA Court forces husband to impregnate wife during divorce via IVF. Yes what? and the idea that it's "stealing," when it was mutual property and, again, no further participation or material from him was needed, is a bit much.	/r/MensRights	13/04/12 12:26 PM
0	PA Court forces husband to impregnate wife during divorce via IVF. If he had died, would you object to her using the eggs in his absence? Would it matter if he'd told her "if I die, don't use those embryos?"	/r/MensRights	12/04/12 11:30 PM
0	PA Court forces husband to impregnate wife during divorce via IVF. "so your point was invalid" was so obviously in reference to the entirety of what I said preceding, and not simply to "he's even been legally exempted from support" that I don't really see any point in having this discussion with someone who's clearly more concerned with scoring points than with actually considering that his participation has already CLEARLY been completed and there is no future burden on him in this decision, whereas ruling in his favor would eliminate the possibility of this w…	/r/MensRights	12/04/12 08:04 PM
-1	PA Court forces husband to impregnate wife during divorce via IVF. you shifted the goalposts to court precents. and also implied, to begin with, something that never happened. there's nothing for me to lose here. there's no argument. and no, the court is not forcing him to take any steps. the court is restraining him from taking the step of destroying embryos that already exist. he's not required to do anything at this point; not fuck (it's IVF), not conceive (the embryos are already conceived), and obviously not birth (lol no uterus). he's even been legally ex…	/r/MensRights	12/04/12 07:38 PM
-2	PA Court forces husband to impregnate wife during divorce via IVF. did you even click the link? ETA: he was not force to fuck or conceive. the embryos were already conceived via IVF	/r/MensRights	12/04/12 07:13 PM
-4	PA Court forces husband to impregnate wife during divorce via IVF. And when has woman been forced to fuck, conceive, or not abort because of the man's feelings? you're joking, right?	/r/MensRights	12/04/12 06:48 PM
1	Married last week... I was troll faced last night. Now what? I wasn't aware there was a fight or that I was winning. this may be the first time in history, in fact, that my belief was in line with the popular mensrights belief, so trying to make it out like I'm pandering for upvotes is kind of pathetic and presumptuous on your part. its a fucking internet forum. I said what I thought because its what I thought and its the same thing I would say if I was sitting in a room of "real people". you seem to be assigning it an awful lot of undue significance. pro…	/r/MensRights	22/09/10 08:06 PM
1	Married last week... I was troll faced last night. Now what? it might behove the manners police to not act like a self-righteous, hypocritical asshole. I didn't ask for your input at all, nor did I even engage you, so what you will or will not "grant" me has shit to do with me. but hey, what do I know, I can't get a man and have bad grammar, right? and it's pretty fucking funny to say "treat others as you like to be treated" as you argue in favor of the OP trying to negotiate sanely with an abusive spouse. seriously now, honey, go fuck yourself.	/r/MensRights	22/09/10 06:15 PM
0	Married last week... I was troll faced last night. Now what? says the asshole who resorted to "enjoy your hand." that was a real moment in debate history, lemme tell you. let me second your original idea: get fucked.	/r/MensRights	22/09/10 08:05 AM
2	Married last week... I was troll faced last night. Now what? oh how cute, you've formed a clique! seriously, do you not feel at all that this kind of 8th grade bullying is at all beneath you? I get it, you have boyfriends and I'm so sad and desperate. why would I try to argue with that on the internet? but hey, whatever it takes to distract from your apologetics. the OP should just lay down and resign himself to a lifetime of abuse. it's just how girls are! teehee	/r/MensRights	22/09/10 03:59 AM
2	Married last week... I was troll faced last night. Now what? try harder.	/r/MensRights	22/09/10 03:45 AM
3	Married last week... I was troll faced last night. Now what? passive-aggressive as in suggesting it without just coming out and saying it. what makes you think I'm partial? what would make me partial? and why are you being so damn precious about it?	/r/MensRights	22/09/10 01:26 AM
5	Married last week... I was troll faced last night. Now what? those Real Dolls can't tell the difference between when you're fucking them in the ass with intent and when it's an "accident"	/r/MensRights	22/09/10 12:37 AM
6	Married last week... I was troll faced last night. Now what? it's abusive behavior. what is she going to say that will make it okay? "I was testing your love" IS NOT OKAY. it's emotional abuse and manipulation. do you really think she's not going to carry on with further emotional abuse and manipulation if asked to account for her abusive behavior? honestly? and I'm a bit unclear on why you're passive-aggressively suggesting I'm partial. you're the one projecting the Nicholas Sparks version of your parents' history of abuse all over some stranger's story,…	/r/MensRights	22/09/10 12:35 AM
13	Married last week... I was troll faced last night. Now what? an annulment is time sensitive and she is exhibiting classic abuse behavior. trying to rationalize abuse as being "how women think" or some kind of romantic test is fucked up. that isn't healthy or sane and you can't "fix" people. the OP said that the marriage was basically an impulse elopement. doesn't sound like they know eachother very well, not to mention well enough for "til death do us part" to be particularly meaningful. stop blowing a bunch of romantic smoke up the poor kid's ass about s…	/r/MensRights	22/09/10 12:14 AM
17	Married last week... I was troll faced last night. Now what? Us women are strange! speak for yourself, dude. this chick's behavior is fucked up, no matter why she's doing it, and your advice ain't so great, either. OP, get an annulment. what she is doing is laying groundwork for an abusive, controlling relationship. get out while it's still relatively easy. it sounds pretty clear that you did something impulsive and that it's not working. if your genders were reversed, if you were both men or both women, I'd say the same thing. fix this while you still ca…	/r/MensRights	22/09/10 12:01 AM
6	Why don't I hear of rape charges among homosexual couples? Why do heterosexual rape laws not apply to prison rape? the kind who doesn't want to leave behind DNA?	/r/MensRights	19/09/10 07:33 PM
3	Gen-Y females: 64% would release a sex tape if it would help advance their careers, 36% would blackmail a co-worker or a boss to get ahead, 45% would sleep with their professor to pass a class they felt like bags of sand	/r/MensRights	09/09/10 09:05 PM
1	Butch Bakery cupcakes, for men too manly for sprinkles and pink frosting what's the innovation here, other than that they're Butch? my understanding is that Manhattan is chock full of places to get all manner of specialty cupcakes. so if it's not about gender, what are they bringing to the table?	/r/MensRights	28/08/10 05:19 PM
1	Butch Bakery cupcakes, for men too manly for sprinkles and pink frosting yeah, I feel bad for these rhetorical dudes who are missing out on eating cupcakes because they're afraid they'll look too girly. cupcakes is cupcakes.	/r/MensRights	28/08/10 04:31 AM
2	Butch Bakery cupcakes, for men too manly for sprinkles and pink frosting do you think that implying that men who eat non-Butch cupcakes without concern for the ostensible gender implications are emasculated pussies is sexist? cause that kind of seems sexist to me... and that's pretty much the whole pitch for these cupcakes. but hey, it's cool if we don't see eye to eye. they're cupcakes.	/r/MensRights	28/08/10 04:29 AM
1	Butch Bakery cupcakes, for men too manly for sprinkles and pink frosting I don't do the whole pink thing. not a fan. I think that you're misunderstanding my issue. I don't feel that it's sexist because I'm somehow excluded as a woman. I think it's sexist because it makes it seem like men should have some kind of identity crisis over baked goods unless they're appropriately Butch. because normal cupcakes are for pussies (in either sense), I guess. good luck with the sponsorship deal. hehe	/r/MensRights	28/08/10 04:27 AM
2	Butch Bakery cupcakes, for men too manly for sprinkles and pink frosting you've never heard of a guy's night out? ok, fine. super. clearly you're not just spoiling for a fight for no reason that I can discern. your analogy is rock solid and "guy's nights out" don't exist and cupcakes are just inherently feminine. more cupcakes for me, I guess.	/r/MensRights	28/08/10 01:54 AM
2	Butch Bakery cupcakes, for men too manly for sprinkles and pink frosting but there's not "girl's cupcake" corollary to "butch cupcake," as there is a "guy's night out" corollary to "girl's night out." this bakery pretty clearly leans on the notion that "girly" is the default for cupcake. and that's where things get silly.	/r/MensRights	28/08/10 01:14 AM
1	Butch Bakery cupcakes, for men too manly for sprinkles and pink frosting a girl's night out is girly because it is for girls. are cupcakes inherently for girls? do they need to be explicitly for men in order for men to enjoy them without breaking gender norms? this is where I think it's odd/interesting. some things have popularly accepted gender affiliations like, say, skirts or makeup or ruffly clothing or whatever. but cupcakes? I was unaware that cupcakes were popularly gendered at all until I saw this. which is why I asked the questions that I did. and I am not t…	/r/MensRights	28/08/10 12:44 AM
1	Butch Bakery cupcakes, for men too manly for sprinkles and pink frosting well right, obviously its related to MR because the bakery assumes that cupcakes are gendered and that its not manly to enjoy a non-Butch cupcake. I just hadn't ever thought of them that way beforehand and thought it was interesting that you compared openly enjoying cupcakes to playing with Barbies and was curious if you were just following the bakery's assumptions or if you'd thought of those things as analogous before.	/r/MensRights	28/08/10 12:38 AM
1	Butch Bakery cupcakes, for men too manly for sprinkles and pink frosting so do you think that cupcakes are comparable with Barbie, in terms of being gendered? cause honestly, it never occurred to me to think of cupcakes as being in the feminine domain, at least not any more than baked goods in general.	/r/MensRights	28/08/10 12:13 AM
1	Butch Bakery cupcakes, for men too manly for sprinkles and pink frosting as silly as the premise is, the boozy chocolate is tempting for sure. its moments like this I wish I was any good at baking.	/r/MensRights	27/08/10 11:58 PM
1	Butch Bakery cupcakes, for men too manly for sprinkles and pink frosting shit, somewhere along the way I jacked up the link Butch Bakery sorry!	/r/MensRights	27/08/10 11:08 PM
1	Has Men's Rights been taken over by feminists? This is a men's forum, but the downvoting of posts that question feminist double standards, feminist theory or propaganda is very consistent. can't think of many popular movements off the top of my head to which you couldn't apply that analogy, including the one represented here.	/r/MensRights	10/08/10 07:13 AM
1	Has Men's Rights been taken over by feminists? This is a men's forum, but the downvoting of posts that question feminist double standards, feminist theory or propaganda is very consistent. "Why, because I believe ignatiusloyola acts as a taming influence on kloo2yoo, controlling him and keeping him in line through private discussions they have? I could be wrong, but I doubt it." when you say shit like that, you don't need feminists to undermine you. you're doing a great job on your own.	/r/MensRights	02/08/10 07:15 PM
-1	Has Men's Rights been taken over by feminists? This is a men's forum, but the downvoting of posts that question feminist double standards, feminist theory or propaganda is very consistent. "MRAs do not frame things as men being privileged, but see that we are disadvantaged, that we don't rule the world, but are instead ruled by it." so basically you're applying the aforementioned "frames of analysis being used" by feminism, but in reverse, and without concern for being able to support your claim of disadvantage academically. so it's not that you're not essentially applying feminist theory, it's just that you do a shitty job of understanding what you're doing, and how, even as you …	/r/MensRights	02/08/10 07:11 PM
2	Has Men's Rights been taken over by feminists? This is a men's forum, but the downvoting of posts that question feminist double standards, feminist theory or propaganda is very consistent. it's only a good explanation if you ignore everything biologists know about sexuality and gender. it's only a double standard if you ignore what biologists know about sexuality and gender. and it doesn't take a feminist to downvote bullshit.	/r/MensRights	01/08/10 07:55 PM
3	Has Men's Rights been taken over by feminists? This is a men's forum, but the downvoting of posts that question feminist double standards, feminist theory or propaganda is very consistent. both the basic premise of that post and the comment are completely unfounded in feminism or, for that matter, reality. here's a tip. gender and sexuality are in two entirely different parts of your brain, so the idea that one is primarily nature and one is primarily nurture is IN NO WAY mutually exclusive. they're not synonymous at all. the idea that there are biological foundations for homosexuality are founded in good science and show that sexual orientation is housed in the "old brain" and ca…	/r/MensRights	01/08/10 07:50 PM