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/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:10 PM
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You want those traditionally-minded women - you find them and don't demand it from the rest. That's the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:55 PM
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I remember her from Gamergate - that was 2013/3014. That was memorable because it gave rise to internet manosphere/incel culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:54 PM
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That's capitalism for you - everything is commodified for profit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:46 PM
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What kind of help do you exactly need? To be reminded that not AWALT? I mean we could, but you need to be able to emotionally self-regulate and work through your relationship problems like trust issues without falling back into misogynist BS, because nobody else can do it for you. Love and trust are a choice.
/r/ExRedPill26/07/25 09:36 PM
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Well, right, I am imagining a show where they'd only invite Tatelike douche dudes and presented them as "all men".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:23 PM
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Feeling victorious (yet defeteated and bitter) feels better than relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:25 PM
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same for women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:00 AM
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If masculine behaviors are just so natural why are PPDers so whiney?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:45 PM
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Sigh. The foundational advice for relationships should be simply: "READ THE ROOM!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:28 PM
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eww
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:51 AM
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Yup, it's bizarre. My son is twelve he still has girl friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:29 AM
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The act should be between two consenting people, so if it is one-sided and the other person isn't interested - it is violation and is therefore disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:03 PM
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It's such a steaming pile of horseshit that I haven't even figured out a way to argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 04:18 PM
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That's not what she is saying
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:20 AM
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It's reasonable for adult humans to choose to act aggressive in some situations and soft in others: not being able to tune it is a sign is emotional immaturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:31 AM
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Anecdotally, I approached my ex-husband and I regret it LOL. Passivity on his behalf has carried on in a variety of forms and shapes and just got worse throughout the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:41 AM
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Gender biases and gendered sexual behaviors - the same reasons why a lot of men don't want assertive or dominant women yet want to be approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 09:36 AM
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Like not being a shithead and not spewing out nonsense. You are welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:53 PM
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It's called having boundaries and being assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:12 AM
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Oh man...😅
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:58 PM
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Where does one find the men who do all that? Asking for a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:04 PM
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Nope, no hypocrisy here. The whole point is that there is no symmetry within current framework? I can understand women's decision to exercise her agency within limitations of patriarchy, I don't have to support men using that. Think, elderly passport bros and younger chicks from third world countries, sugar babies and sugars daddies etc. etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:37 AM
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Capitalism is slightly polished slavery with extra steps for most humankind. Just look around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:28 AM
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It's just strategic pluralism and it's a behavioral pattern for all humans. It's normal to use different mating strategies for different contexts because it's a different set of needs and requirements. For any person of any gender to use the same metric for choosing ONS fling vs long-term partner would be just plain fckn dumb, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 09:51 AM
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Sure, classism does contribute to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:40 PM
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It's not one thing that is solely responsible for the stigma - it's a whole load: (1) cultural and religious norms deeming anything sexual as immoral and deviant (2) association with crime and marginalization (3) gender inequality and mysoginy (4) ongoing negative media portrayals and moral panic (5) arrogance/contempt that prevent examination, understanding and empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:43 AM
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Female attractiveness in patriarchal paradigm is defined by youthfulness, submissiveness, high libido and fertility. Would it be nice to feel visually appreciated by men as much as some rosy-cheeked high-schooler in crop top and shorts? Thanks, but no, thanks. As someone suffering from "perennial cutesy babe" syndrome I am happy my greys are finally getting more visible (not sufficiently so, unfortunately).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:16 AM
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She's just a notch lower in human hierarchy and that makes it even more annoying when she doesn't play along/obey/function as prescribed 😡
/r/ExRedPill21/05/25 08:32 PM
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Both re-live their dysfunctional patterns of nervous dysregulation and one is not better than the other. It doesn't mean you are wrong in describing what you see, btw, that was pretty accurate - it's just that you should be able to see through and work on your own contribution to the dynamic, as well. Avoidants are more likely to avoid self-reflection and just check out when distressed (hence the name 🤪) - it's a defense mechanism that protects psyche from pain of dysregulation. But it's false a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:11 PM
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I would label that as "insecurity" rather than "emotional unavailability" Anxious and avoidant tendencies are both rooted in early attachment trauma and trigger each other into their own patterns. A lot of times there is a bit of this and that in every person and someone acting anxious can withdraw. Relationships work only if both partners put effort to intropsect and work on their side of the dynamics, but avoidants often check out completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:39 AM
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One can be kind and considerate in some situations and punch a nazi when necessary. Rigid patterns skewing either way are not a sign of mental well-being and balanced character development. I have been working on learning to choose appropriate responses in therapy myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:07 PM
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You mean being an excruciatingly boring doormat is a losing strategy? No shit 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:34 PM
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The need to sexualize platonic relationships may have root in early relational trauma and it often gets in the way of forming adult relationships. And women are not immune to it, obviously. This can be worked through in therapy - that's why erotic transference/countertransference are extremely common between therapist/client and are viewed a developmental stage that client is eventually able to grow out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:32 PM
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Again, the bad ones are those who overstep boundaries because they cannot read social cues. Because there is a minority of men who seem to understand this more women are getting wary of being approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:21 PM
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Ah nah, there are many dudes who act pushy and don't take no for an answer because somebody told them that's the manly way. So it's the importance of reading the room that should be taught as basic most important step, rather than telling them that it's about acting this or that way. Otherwise, they will come back complaining that it didn't work and it's all women's fault 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:05 PM
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It's about being able to find balance and" read the room" aka existing context - and sometimes you need to step back politely, sometimes you ramp it up: neither being a perpetual doormat or aggressively pushy in every situation are supposed to work well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:40 PM
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Loving someone just for body or money are utilitarian in the exact same manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:56 PM
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Because proclaiming women insidious and dumb is an easy way to explain their failures and justify morbid attitudes. Step three - profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:13 AM
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He just couldn't miss an opportunity to complain about the libs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:16 PM
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He literally has a rape joke reel going around
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:04 AM
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Bill Burr, too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:13 PM
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*dramatic micdrop
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:25 PM
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You are right. It's also dated. This is a much better compilation of recent facts - https://legaljobs.io/blog/child-custody-statistics. Looks like it's a non-issue nonetheless - men tend to get shared custody when they are interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:17 PM
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I always had that suspicion. The absurdity of her posts is absolutely off the charts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:38 PM
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Ehmmm...one can choose to act balanced and keep things slow DESPITE the impulse, right?? E.g. I know that I tend to fall fast for men and develop irrational limerence fast, but I am also aware by now that it's an unhealthy pattern. So I choose to step back and slow down so that I have a chance to develop a better perspective and possibly a healthier relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:31 PM
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And if you don't confirm the premise - you are lying hypocrite. Trying to debate them is an absolutely pointless activity. In fact I think it just reinforces the entire thing. But there is something addictive about it LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:07 PM
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You need to collectively stop pushing around those false claims, of pretty please: acording to research data, 92% of men who actively pursue custody get it. It's just most don't give a flying fck. Relevant link here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:56 PM
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It's also scary and sad
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:48 PM
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The general consensus from women says otherwise. But we know that RPdom doesn't take those into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:24 AM
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And that's why they felt the need to shame those women in AI video? Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:29 AM
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E.g. Roger Elliot was good-looking, but he didn't get any chicks. Why? Because he was a socially stunted vile asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:27 AM
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You don't get it? They are social justice warriors on a righteous mission!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:21 AM
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Your last paragraph describes general posting strategy of RP crowd here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:57 AM
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damn...gotta love this sub LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:49 AM
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That's one way to tell us all you don't have any contact with women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:45 AM
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Are you seriously going to compare popularity of a random fat dude and Lizzo? LMAO...that's unhinged. Do you comprehend the amount of effort invested in her appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:40 AM
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OMG wtf 😭 I saw this channel mentioned a few times and only now (accidentally) opened the video..and I am in awe.- those are insane LOL. And cutesy scribbles are a great visual representation of massive pile of horseshit. The graphs and charts with hidden knowledge look very thorough, very persuasive. Also, very common symptom with schizo folk...But anyways, that's one glorious grift, thanks for the links🌷
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:34 AM
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No, you miss the point. Objectification manifests in dehumanizing narratives and behaviors - it's literally about reducing a woman to being a sex object. You can still make a point of getting to know a woman and treating her as a human being and acting in a respectful and mindful manner WHILE being sexually attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:37 PM
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FFS. Essentialism has historically been used by men as an excuse for assault/rape/harrassment and other kinds of dehumanizing blatant disregard for consent that most women have faced. That's how objectification plays out at this point - it's stubbornly continuing to disregard collective female experiences, their feelings and emotions, fears and vulnerabilities and insisting they should provide satisfaction of men's essential urges. Women do know - they are just not interested in being treated li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:10 PM
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Meow 😺
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:43 PM
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Exactly , it's just narcissistic idealization rooted in navel-gazing fantasy. It is crushed fast by reality of living human. That's when women are devalued and declared evil opportunistic whores. Oscillating between these two extremes is not some spiritual insight, it's literally a sign of a mental disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:35 AM
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OP can you maybe drop a pin for us to understand where these divine men are located?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:18 AM
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There is also a very real claim that this is no bueno and sad disgrace when self-aggrandizing narcissistic mysoginist is subverting the spirit of Christ's teachings like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:15 AM
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ROFL...bro, seems like you are sprouting feathers and emanating 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:58 PM
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Because it was historically on women to provide hermeneutic labour. And men refuse to figure it out themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:53 AM
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It's surreal how men manage to blame women for their economic oppression. And elites are happy that mysoginy keeps these goobers sufficiently distracted: they just have to stoke that dumpster fire a bit from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:49 AM
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Of course, men can be oppressed, as well - but it's because of race, class, disability etc. but NOT because of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:39 AM
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Toxic masculinity strong "manly man" stereotype that exist in society
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:03 PM
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Also classes or economic strata, if course
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:01 PM
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Have you tried mewing? I started doing it because of TMJ induced suffering and neck issues and my chubby face suddenly sprouted high cheekbones and a sharper jawline. Which I wasn't even interested in. Also made my face a lot more symmetrical and reduced puffiness because of better lymph circulation I assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:43 PM
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Doritos chip image made me giggle, thanks 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:36 PM
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Contradicts my ass. My ex-husband has a couple chads in his extended family and one is married to a woman 17 years older and the other is married to a literal millionaire chick. Life fckn contradicts RP at every turn, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:21 PM
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It's five percent now? Looks like the number of Chads per female is swiftly declining. It's extremely concerning 😰 This will require state-mandated interventions like chad-breeding and distribution program.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:36 PM
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You call that perfect? I's call it sane and realistic rather than trying to live according some obscene manly man/female woman fantasy. Whatever you described hasn't been my experience in relationships. Neither was my friends'. Maybe we know to pick more mentally balanced less delusional folk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:27 PM
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Autism is often comorbid with NPD so we can presume that plenty are that or just score high in narcissistic traits without qualifying for PD - aka narcissists in layman's terms. That thoroughly covers the entire scope of insanity - delusional black'n'white thinking, splitting, finger-pointing and victim-blaming, arrogance and self-victimization, inability to self-reflect, lack of accountability, desire for external validation. I probably missed something 🫠 UPD. Idealization/devaluation that come…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:12 PM
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It's only either/or so they should be interested in doormats? Isn't the healthy way when people are taking turns initiating and leading and mutually compromising when making decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:23 PM
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What..? She literally just prefers people with experiences like hers that she can relate to. Fetishization always implies "othering" or alienation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:22 AM
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I am neurodivergent. But I put a lot of effort into learning to pay attention to social cues and use that information to change what and how I say to people. That's literally what caring is. If the person cannot reciprocate it's a sign that /she lacks in empathy and emotional intelligence and that's not a good premise for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:39 PM
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I'd be much more careful and be paying close attention to words/behaviors, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:18 PM
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It's just for a lot of miserable and victimized fckwhits control/power/coercion or fantasizing about them is the only thing that makes them feel good. Tate sells his bottomfeeders the dream of being the bully on top of the hierarchy (like any right-wing ideology). I get the point of your video, I guess this can fly with taints because they are used to this kinda painful format.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/25 12:15 PM
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I couldn't finish watching the video. You are right, of course, he is a textbook narcissist and predator selling oilsnake of "freedom from the matrix" to dumb kids - this has been discussed plenty in a lot of detail, e.g. just in the last weeks Behind the Bastards did two update episodes on him.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/25 09:45 AM
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I knew a sub guy and he said that it was actually more fun if aversion/disgust were evoked. So maybe that, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:55 PM
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I actually have a suspicion that airing it out this way is also a kink. Kinda like those guys calling suicide/emergency hotlines to get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:11 PM
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Here you go again - extrapolating your kink on gender dynamics. Patriarchal norms of masculinity (supported by some men/women) suggest that men aren't supposed to be emotional/have difficult feelings. But, of course, men hurt, too. Having triggers/fears/insecurities is unfortunately just normal human experience. In close relationships we should be able to be mutually vulnerable with the partner and expect them to respond to it with kindness and cater to a certain degree if they can. That's what …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:08 PM
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Nothing guarantees sex LOL. But it's not a reason not to have any life or be a decent fun human. That would def. increase the odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:12 PM
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I just wasn't approached? I actually approached all the guys I dated myself and they are just average looking, too. They all had girlfriends before me and after me, too. My ex-husband had two really gorgeous exes, actually, and he is a total dork.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:32 AM
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That's just so silly. Men vastly prefer hot chicks, too - I am not one and am not bitter. Pretty privilege is a universal thing for humans fullstop.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:04 PM
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That's correct, immature impulsive people will do crazy things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 11:53 PM
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Absolutely. It's exploitative and dehumanizing. E.g. Tate's ponzi scheme grifting off teenage angst and misery - like it is some uncanny caricature of late stage capitalist structures and dynamics. Some truly vile shit 🤢 "shudder". If anyone is curious - Robert Evans did a great job examining Tate's business in Behind the Bastards.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/25 10:53 PM
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My first choice is Keanu, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:17 PM
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Because they themselves don't know how to grow and learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:13 PM
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FR. I went into therapy to finally learn what healthy relationships should be like after my son was born. Anything before that was me successfully imitating toxic my family dynamics 😬 But these guys here...they were born into perfection, purity and maturity, apparently. Unlike lowly commoners who have to make an effort to grow and learn 🤧
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:42 PM
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Nobody ever told you to that you need to work out, dress well, talk nicely, take care of yourself, learn new things, read, hang out with friends etc.? I am far from exemplary parent to my son, unfortunately, but it's just basics of parenting a human. Just put a chin-up bar in his doorway, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:34 PM
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Dude LMAO...wtf🥲 I was saying this is not achievable for majority of people in the world - because of relative rigidity of social stratification. Just like American Dream TM, you know. Maybe OP should go touch grass? But then "dreaming big and unrealistic" is an age norm for kids/teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:06 PM
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I assume there are some narcissistic men who relish in those imaginary hierarchies because they can only feel ok about themselves if they get to feel superior to someone else. Luckily, it's not a need for most people so they don't have to obsess over your sad crab bucket fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:42 PM
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I know, right?!? 😤
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:32 PM
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Bro... most people are (present or up-and-coming) salarymen here. Or maybe some other variation of plebs LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:27 PM
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Maslow's made an attempt to conceptualize human needs and suggested a hierarchy theory. And there is an ongoing discussion on social sciences whether sex belongs to the base tier or not - that is besides other critiques E.g. relevant discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:43 PM
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I think you should just roll with more edgy meta "nobody owes anything to anyone fullstop" - really no reason to pick only fidelity out of the entire range.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:28 PM
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I am submissive with the right partner exactly because I am the opposite in my daily life and need a fckn break 😬 Also, dominatrix services are often sought out by men who are otherwise at the top of hierarchies. So submission/domination dynamics don't have to extend beyond bedroom for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:46 AM
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Cmon. There are a lot of masculine victimhood narratives - like say...the entirety of incel lore e.g. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:37 AM
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Plenty people do that when they are young. But it's not a good idea for the first date: safety before spontaneity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:47 AM
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And then men here are griping how easy it is for a woman to get laid. Ahah... SURE, JAN My favorite story is how I asked a guy to slow down and his response was: "You are not my boss!" He was forty - not four, not fourteen - fucking forty years old. Seriously, fuck this shit 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:48 AM
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Bro... what's with this need to be spoon-fed information about outside world? I really don't get it. Nobody told me I was anxious and not attractive at school or there were hotter more popular girls out there - like... I noticed! All you need to do is some observation and reflection. And imitation if you want. That's literally how humans learn social behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:42 AM
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OMG...I imagined holocaust game 😵‍💫
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:13 PM
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I did personally find that men's baseline expectations have shifted towards more kinky/violent and less vanilla - even at first encounter and without asking for consent. Part of the reason why I no longer date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:10 PM
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What are you even talking about? It's not common advice at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 01:14 PM
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That was so wonderful to read 💝
/r/ExRedPill08/04/25 05:21 PM
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True, they are scared of their own sociopathic dehumanizing projections.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/25 05:18 PM
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They are not threat narratives LOL. What's with self-victimizing, geez? Just don't do those things and you are golden and deserve a praise and a pat on the back. I mean any human deserves a pat on the back (not a blowjob, mind you) or multiple for not being a POS, really. Here is yours "there, there".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:49 PM
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Don't kill, don't rape, act decent, don't expect women to be automatically interested in looking up to men, fucking and emotionally placating them, giving birth and raising kids, cooking and cleaning. Talking about victimization - ffs... none of it is about seizing power LMAO. It's literally about being human, not acting up and having options. Just like men do, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:07 PM
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I know a redpiller who loved Alan Watts and Ram Dass. Knew LOL. Rightwinger mysoginist psychonauts are not uncommon, unfortunately - think melon husk, e.g. But I agree that it could work for some.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/25 06:08 PM
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That's a pile of horseshit LOL. I am a hardcore leftie who is not in with dems on all the points at all, but voting against corrupt rapist oligarch was an absolute priority for everyone at least somewhat aware. If there was some trans issue that swayed them towards foul belligerent trumpism they have a fuckton of issues to work through before they are even able to focus on reality. They literally voted in the bully who wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire - it's painfully obvious and is hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:50 PM
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No, it's not binary. But there are way too many more men willing to stick it into anything and women disinterested. This dynamic is spectacularly skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 11:52 AM
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I mean you are right, but in the end it's that additional percent or two that made a difference in swing states.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 11:39 AM
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It's not anything innately female/feminine, it's a learned behavior that's socially expected from women.so they are more conditioned to display it. I myself had to learn those skills in therapy because my parents were unable to genuinely give any fucks about my well-being. And some of my therapists were (caring, empathetic and emotionally intelligent) men, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:20 PM
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There is a good reason for that: emotional care in relationships is delegated to women. It's an extremely important part of relationships. But most men won't do that to each other because it comes with a stigma of being "feminine" They will also not reciprocate it in the partnership so it's dismissive and exploitative dynamics. So if women check out of it and choose to mutually offer that support to each other - men most often flop on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:19 PM
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That's exactly what I said LOL - it's both. Cutting off inconsiderate assholes and bringing in the good ones instead is the best you can do for your soul. 10/10, highly recommend 💞
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:57 AM
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Most of the times working through yourself you get to see why it's not working out with others. Any internal work is also reflection of external relational dynamics - it's not like it's all happening within internal vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 10:25 PM
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Well, this was just the first half of the performance. Having prescribed those "immutable and inherent" qualities to women they are going to tragically whine about them, complain about women's evil nature and their obscene demands. After that they can proceed beating themselves up masochistically for having low value and once they are finished with that - declare bitter defeat in the game. Dramatic micdrop. Fckn circus, today and every day on PPD 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 04:11 PM
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Ever heard of capitalism? We live in a capitalist society with its premises and (often shallow or dehumanizing) ideals and it permeates every aspect of human existence. Patriarchy also means that women historically haven't have direct access to capital - only via men. Also women tend to become financially vulnerable if they give up on their career even temporarily to do unpaid household labour and caretaking. Mating strategies are influenced by multiple social and economic factors, they are not …
/r/ExRedPill20/03/25 09:40 PM
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Prime rib
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:14 PM
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No, because the take is mostly ignorant and blown out of proportion and serves the pipeline of disgruntled men channeling their rage even further into alt-right politics. The usual stuff, you know. As I said - I personally dated a guy who got his alimony upon divorce because he has been a caretaker. If ever caretaking is done by a significant number of men you will see how miraculously the narrative of "evil lazy women ripping honest men off" will change into complete opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:53 PM
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That's ragebait lifecycle for you - in manosphere or elsewhere on the Internet: something is picked up by a bunch of manfluenecers and then collectively swished around for a while by algorithms until they exhaust the viewership. That doesn't reflect the state of things in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:52 PM
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Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:05 PM
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The guy I dated got alimony because he was stay-at-home dad and later worked part-time to take care of kids/household while his wife was making a career: she is a financial director of a big company.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:51 PM
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Exactly. Trauma dumping from get-go is a shitty behavior, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:14 PM
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It's not your problem. But seeing other people's problem helps if you want to connect to them, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:09 PM
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I dated both and my answer is women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:57 PM
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Ever heard of intersectionalism? Capitalism absolutely sucks, so do patriarchy, classism, racism - each in its own specific way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:11 PM
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It's a projection: they assume it's natural for women to desire matriarchy because they themselves love the idea of patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:07 PM
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Sorry to hear and I am glad you are doing fine financially. Me and my single mom struggled a lot and dad showed up once in half a year with some peanuts in his pocket. He had the guts to tell me "I have completed my parental duties" when I was 16, imagine? They are depressed about having to support their child? FFS. Fucking morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:25 AM
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Oh so you are basically taking your on-dimensional interpretation of your own kink and projecting it on everyone. Got it. Do you know how many men try to play out their sub kink with non-consenting and unsuspecting women LOL? Def. not an uncommon scenario that I myself experienced a lot. And tat's just a small example of what a bullshit take this whole thing is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:36 AM
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There is so much schadenfreude in PPD: I think that's a huge factor to it being my guilty pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:24 AM
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Is this intended to be some "gotcha"? People can believe all kinds of bullshit or say all kinds of bullshit for grifting purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 05:42 PM
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No? You shouldn't accept anyone playing mindgames and shouldn't do it yourself - whatever is the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 05:27 PM
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I hate overpriced bouqets and personally get myself a bunch of tulips from the supermarket every week for 3 euros (*MIley Cyrus intensifies)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:09 AM
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I have no idea what I should make out of those numbers, but I will put it into words instead: you shouldn't be making any sexually charged comments to a woman who hasn't already clearly expressed a great deal of interest and enthusiastic willingness to interact with you further. For starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:28 PM
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It does work on me, but I know by now that it's unhealthy, but also subconscious and automatic. It's early attachment trauma reaction (unavailable parents/terrified child) that's imprinted into the nervous system. I have made a lot of effort to recognize it and am working to develop better relational strategies. That said - those who purposefully exploit this to get their dicks wet are despicable shits. And in the end those games won't make them happy: just more empty and miserable and starving …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 08:34 AM
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So women have collectively been telling you "we don't like this shit - you better stop" and you think it's *them* being disrespectful? Instead of listening and re-considering your approach? How much further down does your head go and how long can you keep it there?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:22 AM
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Based. This should be in the description of this sub and in automod response to each topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:32 AM
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Women are more interested in sexually charged exchanges from people they find visually attractive? You don't say!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:29 AM
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This take is brilliant - can't get enough of its ridiculousness, but luckily PPD delivers daily: - You are just acting shitty pointing out shitty behaviours. Because there are more important things you should be doing. Because I see that way and it is true and you gotta trust a man, sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 07:37 PM
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Isn't fussing and moving the goalposts a quintessential part of PPD arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:55 AM
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There was masculinity crisis and grifters exploiting those insecurities a hundred years ago, too. Apparently, cycling becoming popular among women was one of the big factors - "it's ruining women" LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:08 PM
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Listen to Behind the Bastards podcast about masculinity grifters: Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate etc. - Robert Evans is really good at laying it out clearly.
/r/ExRedPill05/03/25 08:41 AM
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Person of any gender can be a POS: this is just human nature, unfortunately. But shitty experience leading to the idea that women deserve their rights to be taken away? That's bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:05 PM
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They are based on extreme simplifications, manufacture mass despair&outrage and are exploited for grifting - be smarter than that? I just finished listening to Behind the Bastards podcast about Andrew Tate: Robert Evans pulls apart the entire fucked up thing beautifully,
/r/ExRedPill01/03/25 11:17 AM
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Because incel to rightwinger pipeline is extremely common, unfortunately
/r/ExRedPill27/02/25 06:10 PM
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Nah, don't buy into this bullshit. That's just a silly juxtaposition rightwingers are exploiting to attract angsty youngsters. That has always been their strategy: come along, my boy - they say, this is the only way to be the manly man - they say, we'll show you who is to blame, they say I just finished listening to Behind the Bastards podcast on Andrew Tate today: it's sad and it sucks big time and it doesn't have to be this way. But Robert Evans is without a doubt glorious LOL *swoon*
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:00 PM
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You should swipe left on incomplete profiles?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:00 PM
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ROFL
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:56 PM
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It may be ok for some and not ok for others - you find out by putting it into words.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:22 PM
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I suppose we are talking covert narcissist type of nice guy as opposed to grandiose one? I seem to be attracting such kind and give too much credit to niceness because one of parents is like that. I think I finally learned my lesson after being backstabbed in the most cruel manner (by a "nice girl" btw). I find all that nauseating: the manipulative "niceness" and simping (even worshipping eew) and then behind that facade there is often a limp doormat, sadistic victimhood, cowardice, lack of init…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:05 AM
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LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:33 PM
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It does. Upset incels *need* state to take care of their sexual *needs* and allocate a waifu to each of them or else they are getting even more upset. What a time to be alive and witness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:11 PM
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I don't have the experience of any kind of privilege like that by virtue of being a "mid". I have two gorgeous cousins and some pretty(-er than me that is) friends and they don't view horny men as an asset. More like unavoidable nuisance. What's with extrapolating insta anime babe outliers on the entire population btw? It's such a stupid premise. Get off insta dweeb bubble, touch some grass and look at regular (likely boring and unremarkable) folk maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:24 PM
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Let's be precise here, shall we? It's not entirety of social media - it is pathetic horny dweebs that create market where she can monetize her pretty face and silly moves. Reasonable people are not even aware of its existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:33 PM
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It's gotta be trolling LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:42 AM
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I love your comments 🥲🥂❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:33 PM
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No, I don't see a comment to this one with the source stating that men tend to win custody if they go for it. UPD. Well..LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:14 PM
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Yeah, this is absolutely wild. I am still proud my mom divorced my asshole dad even though we had many more financial struggles. He never wanted joint custody, would only show up once in half-a-year even though I lived fifteen minutes away from him - I would see him on PT or in the shops sometimes and he would ignore me. Fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:46 PM
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Care to comment this, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:43 PM
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When I asked a guy to slow down he said: "You are not my boss!". He was forty - not four, not fourteen - forty fucking years old. It's one example of many.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:13 AM
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"cherchez la femme" 🥂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:46 PM
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Both of those are shitty manipulative behaviors. And I'd say she should have just walked away from a conservative man asking about body count. But sorry, what was your question again?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:49 PM
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But wait, wasn't he supposed to be good at sex and also listen to my feedback so that he could give me orgasms? I am sure you will confidently find another stupid-pilled explanation for a nice guy behavior though, so I digress. Narcissistic DARVO is circular and always wins, that's it's (lonely and bitter, but victorious) nature. Debating it makes zero sense - I guess BP/PP homies are here mostly for the sake of entertainment. I don't know if we should be terrified or bemused watching you dig yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:38 PM
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LOL. It's hilarious to read. My ex-husband is 6ft - 6 figure anti-chad. Narcissistic nerd, he would def. be an incel type now (actually is LOL - as in "not dating/in relationship"), but had a vibrant social life in 90-00s in "burner" circles. He made exactly zero effort in sex/relationship despite my multiple communication attempts that he wholeheartedly resented. I wasted too much time with him because I, too, persuaded myself that he was a nice guy - like he wasn't abusive per se, right? Just …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:11 PM
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Absolutely! After all those smut allusions women of PP are ready to witness!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:41 PM
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I will check it out 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:38 PM
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I found your story of casually turning into a successful dickhead with knives and guns fascinating. Please write more - we all need to know details.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:09 AM
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Exactly. I think a good chunk of men's issues would be resolved by learning to deal with emotions in healthy ways and choosing to treat your homies nicely, for starters. I myself come from toxic culture/family so had to learn new ways as an adult and a mom. It's hard work, but it pays off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:04 AM
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"thathappened" vibe is my favourite part of this sub, it's delightfully cringe 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 10:02 PM
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Yet you guys come here to complain about women not feeling empathetic/interested enough about male-on-male violence victims, feeling of isolation and lack of emotional connection instead of quietly enjoying your male-dominated spaces while women are trying hard to avoid them. Yikes. Your comment makes so much sense in this topic and in the general context of RP, I appreciate it!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:35 PM
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I always said that men tend to treat each other like shit and also seem to want to treat women like that because that's their sad understanding of equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:20 AM
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He thinks you are a woman confidently explaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 08:27 PM
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When I read discussions like this I always remember that French media collectively labelled the convicted in Pelicot's case "Mr. Everyman". It's a sombering description.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:04 PM
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*mic drop
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:00 PM
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You are asking way too complicated questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:12 AM
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Sad eek
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:40 AM
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Is there any hidden (elusive for female emotional brain) logic in repeatedly misspelling the word "vote"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:41 PM
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It's only logical, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:44 PM
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Are those assumptions logical,.if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:42 PM
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I know the overwhelming feeling 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:33 PM
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I am kinda afraid he is not trolling though 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:26 PM
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If you read OP's other posts/comments you will find a treasure trove of logical insights into female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:26 PM
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Goodness... I actually am dying to find out WTF is written there. Yes, this is totally illogical and emotion-driven there you go 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:00 PM
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Men are logical beings unlike women, you know 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:54 PM
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Initial phase infatuation is based on some imaginary phantasm. Then the reality hits and some times attraction persists and some times it just can't. That's a normal course of events.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:57 PM
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Mind telling us the name of those subs? Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:47 AM
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Same here. I love my (almost teenage) baby. We are relatively well off, mind you, and we live in great place in a mostly stable country. But the sheer financial and emotional burden of having a child is so much beyond anything I could imagine that I am technically a childfree style advocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:37 AM
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How is it sticking up for yourself? Trump wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:48 AM
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OMG that first sentence though! 😭 *scribbling down in designated reddit masterpieces notebook"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:38 AM
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If you are in Eastern Europe you should remember all the protests in Poland in the last few years, e.g. Wasn't that sufficiently intense?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:35 PM
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Sitting on two chairs is a seemingly difficult, but learnable skill 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:30 PM
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This. Also talk to them long enough and the views are surely going to leak out. They always do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:23 PM
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Relationships are based on mutual effort and compromise, how is it supposed to work out between two people otherwise? But you are right, I should have accepted that he didn't have it in him and left way earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:59 PM
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To be fair he managed to make me feel that way. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:12 PM
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Yes and he felt attacked by my repeated requests.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:48 PM
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This. My ex-husband refused to wear clean shirts even if I requested it only when we were out together. It was too much effort for him. Any effort in relationship was too much for him, so now I tend to think those are related.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:33 PM
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boo!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:19 PM
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it's always been
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:37 PM
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Seriously. I know a group of men that plan and go to a concert every couple of months for 20 years. At this point they don't all live at the same place even and often travel somewhere further out. They are Germans for reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:20 PM
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Normally, people's functional/circumstantial masks are pretty accurate (but slightly brushed up) representations of them. The very fake kind is usually a sign of serious pathology - e.g. personality disorders like ASPD or NPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:23 PM
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*mic drop
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:46 PM
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I agree, but I assume this was (sadly) unavoidable. There will be fewer and fewer posters coming here to start conversations in good faith. They are not interested in hearing an opposing meaning. Is it a good idea to stop engaging with those altogether and just refer them to purplepilldebate or askafeminist (if they dare) to collectively avoid wasting breath?
/r/ExRedPill05/05/24 11:11 AM
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Exactly this. Source: 12 years of marriage to finally learn that lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:57 AM
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ROFL....what kind of world do you guys live in? 🤣😂🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:48 PM
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Plenty women are brought up to have a co-dependence issues which result in people-pleasing tendencies. That's why the pushback - they need to learn to find internal locus for their happiness. For men - it's the other way round because they generally tend to be more narcissistic and therefore need to learn to notice other people's needs. Relationships are only possible from more balanced points. I see it's not happening for men though, well ca va 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:04 PM
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Lol. Don't block me 😽
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:11 AM
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Oh she did? I mean it's obvious because if incessant absurdity of the things SHE posts, but I was wondering if there was anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:10 AM
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ROFL. Ahhahhaha. I have been absolutely positive it's a dude LARPing like a few others - those takes are just 🤦 And copy pasting your own comments - esp those about sex, over and over. But yeah, essentially that's how red pill works anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:08 AM
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As someone who dated a guy 17 years older, I do confirm the daddy issues part 🥲Though unlike my dad he was extremely good-looking, almost two meters tall and had me floored by having been a stay -at-home Chad-dad when his two daughters were little.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:38 PM
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As a single mom I would be happy to date a single dad (and I did) - if he actually proved to be a good dad and learned from his mistakes in a previous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:48 PM
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Social skills are, well...a set of skills that can be learned and practiced. Also, because they require a good deal of emotional intelligence - it's a predictor of how you are able to relate on interpersonal level
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:55 PM
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Nurse, teacher (esp. kindergarten) or any other caretaker ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:44 PM
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Radically non-binary!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:40 PM
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I actually rather like this extrapolation of RP theory 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:47 PM
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Didn't I already out you, my dear? I mean the audacity is breathtaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:21 PM
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Wow, so entitlement 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:28 AM
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What's consistently? Dining out once a week is just catching a small break from daily grind of cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:06 AM
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Is he also wearing a onesie with an S on his chest? Please stahp, I can't 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:54 AM
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this is the (perfect) way
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:46 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:45 AM
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I was catcalled quite a bit when I was younger because it was so normalised. Still happens sometimes . Approached - not so much. Neither of those things were proof of my attractiveness, especially catcalling - it is just an intimidating power move. I remember I was walking with my baby in a stroller in a park when I was catcalled by a bunch of teenagers. Some of them yelled "Suck my d*ck". I can't even, ugh...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:40 PM
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They will build a settlement and then start a civilization with penis, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:04 PM
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How many of permanently online RPers are able to venture into the wilderness without any equipment and survive? I really would love to watch that kind of reality show.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:03 PM
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I don't even know where to start, honestly...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:00 PM
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I honestly LOVE how unhinged this sub is. Please keep it coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 12:58 PM
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Makes me wonder why mods are still allowing HER to LARP though <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:42 AM
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I called one "lady" out - she had been posting on this sub for a few years claiming insider knowledge. She disappeared since then, I am afraid I might have upset her 🥹 UPD. Ah no....SHE came back and is still LARPing, apparently. Surreal UPD2. And LARPing quality has improved after my critique: suddenly instead of unhinged RP stuff she started defending women. Ahah. I don't know I guess that's an improvement overall 😅 Chum stepdad post for reference
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:01 PM
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Feminism is fine: blatant narcissim and ridiculous extrapolations don't really help you get understanding and *surprised pikachu face* don't foster ability to create meaningful relations with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:49 AM
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Do you have any idea how many women get on antidepressants after having kids? Lol, I know, I know - those are BAD moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:15 PM
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Awww. I love dimples, so here is my virtual compliment to maybe pave the way towards liking them yourself. But I know the feeling of not being able to appreciate what others like in me - it's feels like resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:14 PM
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She really should have, I think 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:11 PM
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From what I see around: typical
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:23 PM
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Making a compliment the right way: https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/s/vvnOSYvSRT
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:41 PM
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I would hate decision making done on my behalf, but then I HAD to plan all the trips/figure out all the gifts on his behalf/look into activities for our kid etc. etc. and then try and kindly communicate to him so that he wouldn't be insulted by micromanaging - that apparently WASN'T a part of decision-making and could be completely ignored. How many times did he cook a meal for me and my kid in 10 years? Less than a dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:37 PM
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Apparently, around 50 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:06 PM
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There are plenty older women - especially the more conventionally attractive ones who have had to put up with consistent male "attention"- who say that they are happy to be finally free from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:17 AM
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Women previously.simply couldn't opt out of childbearing because there was no contraception: so awareness or lack of it were irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:05 PM
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I know❤️‍🩹 Some women just wouldn't stop calling you out. Like can't they shut tf up, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:13 PM
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I am not sure. Big part of my nostalgia is seeing it through child's eyes, I was 8 when it all collapsed. My mom and many of her peers don't miss not being able to procure even basic consumer goods - she literally had holes in her coat and had to knit my summer (!) socks, e.g. Many of those struggles I remember, but it obviously comes with a different feeling for a kid than it does for the parent. There was less communal/social disparity and alienation though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:02 PM
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No sweat! I have made a provision to have produced my own kid to fetch me a cup of water on my deathbed 🤧
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:44 PM
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I wasn't picking on you haha. You are right, there is no proof, but also extrapolations are clearly somewhat off 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:42 PM
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Outside of ethnic immigrant communities those countrie still have BIGGER rates among native educated population compared to others. But you want everyone to be willing to be treated akin to third -world women, so I understand the will to continue with denial and deflection. Please be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:39 PM
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Brah...do I have to spell it out? Men would do that, too: if it got them any bonus points :'D but thanks for the usual RP "no true scotsman"..sigh. I am exercising my patience and diligence as I have to point out that the original goalpost was "saying nice things to other humans". That's because I am wiling to see how far you can run with it. Don't disappoint me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:35 PM
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of course not! you should have a few designated (as stipulated by the government) kiddos who will grow up knowing that their life goal is to ensure your serene and careless retirement. That's on top of "one waifu per redpiller" program, of course. That's what I call social security.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:23 PM
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Unironically, the highest birth rates in the West are in the most progressive, feminist countries because many women actually will *choose* have kids when necessary provisions (according to women themselves) are present. That comes along with dropping birthrates elsewhere: most women will prefer to opt out if they can (unless/until they can have those provisions).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:14 PM
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If they do - no, they shouldn't really, it's internalized patriarchal standards which makes them see themselves less of a woman.They should announce loudly and clearly that they don't give any fucks about those. It might take some more time, don't despair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:06 PM
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do it to you bros on a daily basis: it will be so validating and heart-warming for them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:44 AM
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Gotta love this.... MOST (if not all because I haven't scrolled all the way down) supportive comments here are from women. Unlike men's. But you managed to blame women nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:40 AM
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Exactly. It's called RP crab bucket and it's painful to watch :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:36 AM
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Right. And then there are countless posts on PPD "Women never compliment me - I will always remember the time I got complimented". Hot take: everyone needs validation, support and hearing kind words.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:33 AM
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Please don't OP, there are more relatable points, or, honestly, even anything downright psychotic is a better alternative: you really don't want the common reaction to be PLANETARY SCALE CRINGE
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:23 AM
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He is not THAT wrong: indeed, almost HALF of women who SHOWED UP to vote in 2016 elections cast their vote for Trump. The extrapolations though..."facepalm" short overview of gender gap in 2016 My link editor is not working, but there are multiple other sources that confirm Democrat/Republican vote divide has been increasing (well, duh, RPers like to complain about it in their posts)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:12 AM
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You don't have to agree, I guess - but statistics fairly consistently report that 25-30% don't need clitoral stimulation. The myth of "everyone needs it" is so widely spread that I have to repeatedly explain to my partners why "no, really, believe me it's unpleasant - DON'T!" 😅 There are better sources than this incl. cited study, but I don't have time to be digging right now sex-ed in men's health
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:44 PM
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Yes, it would totally make sense. Similar thing "gastouderschap" is available in the Netherlands except it's not subsidised, but paid directly out of parent's pocket while being regulated by the state. Also cheaper than other childcare options. My ex-girlfriend was my son's gastouder - that's how we met 😅 Existing free municipal kindergartens are still fantastic by world standards "making muffed crying sounds in Dutch" Really it's an updated version of soviet system - there is a kindergarten in …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:29 PM
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I swear the cortisol/adrenaline/dopamine combo that comes with those emotions makes PPD properly addictive 😈 I wish my nervous system delivered that when I dealing with my chores/workload instead 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:59 PM
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Please have some mercy - I am here with my naturally limited cognitive/emotional capacity of a woman in order to try and comprehend and empathise with the unbearable burden of being a man - in this particular case I am trying to imagine how much suffering it must be causing you to act like a decent human being!!!! 😭🤧
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:31 AM
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Right. Anyways, it's BS. There are mostly free (aka subsidized through taxes) municipal kindergartens which are actually great.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:20 AM
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Yeah no, it's five words: ask and listen to feedback! About a quarter of women don't like their clit touched.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:15 AM
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Oooof, that second-hand embarrassment for your comment hit me hard 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:11 AM
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Chores are naturally pleasurable for women? Ah, I didn't get the memo "staring at my kitchen sink"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:09 AM
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He virtually resides on red-pill forums 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:57 AM
1

Dramatic? More like "exhilarated" 😹
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:36 AM
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You are wriggling in a funny manner. Provide your source or stop with bullshit please thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:34 AM
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The post is about men performing brave acts of chivalry - it's in no way similar because I am plainly a woman and therefore cannot possibly relate to any of it 🤧
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:24 AM
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To increase efficiency of self-victimization process!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:18 AM
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It's simultaneously hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:14 AM
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Ahahhah...😅 Damn...you might need to fine-tune your business idea 😂🤣😂🤣😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:06 AM
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*considering which celebrities I would want to put on my to-do list ☝️😅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:03 AM
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I saw this "woman's" post, too. There was another lady a couple of weeks ago with a post about her stepdad being a chump and a betabuxx. And many other unhinged ones. I wonder why she disappeared? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:42 AM
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Hmmmm...finally someone dared to share the TRUTH! On a more serious note - TF is this ridiculous nonsense? Too bad, comment history is so short that it makes it impossible looking for other grains of wisdom - that's what I did when we had another "truthful woman" on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:37 AM
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This should be filed together with a list of questions that identify redpillers during dating process.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:24 AM
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Please continue...🫣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:16 AM
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Russia's model of block mothers? TF is that? Coming up on 43d year of being Russian and have never heard anything like that. I'd dare say - it doesn't exist, unless there is/was a small-scale experiment somewhere. Anyways, source please.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:12 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:03 AM
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Wat...?? Source pahleeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:59 AM
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Omg...so those things are chivalry? What about wiping your butt after taking a dump - is it also in those category of things? 🤔 "taking notes"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:58 AM
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Sorry, forgot to add /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:47 AM
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Nailed it..so thorough, so precise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:44 AM
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Poor you 🥹 Can suggest you give up altogether?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:43 AM
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There is sufficient number of women seeking out FWB arrangement on OLD, but they usually don't indicate it on their profile. So technically - there is potential audience 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:39 AM
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Bullshit. I once stupidly attempted to date a bitter nerdy short (that's for reference) red-piller only because his sex skills were top-notch and I was willing to bear with the rest. I know the anecdote sounds impossible/unrealistic, but I swear. He had a girlfriend for 9 years before he got pilled so plenty time to learn and practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:36 AM
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I have a good one. When I politely asked to slow down (jackhammering) one guy said: "You are not my boss!" (!!!) He was 40 - not 4 and not 14 - fckn grown-up, educated and otherwise intelligent 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:27 AM
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He can be situationally oblivious or lacking empathy, but other than that he sounds confident, smart and funny. And he has generally pleasant demeanor (for external purposes haha). Definitely, no masculine chad vibes - I actually thought he was gay when I first met him. I am not sure what his dating life would be with OLD because he met those women in his social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:53 PM
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omg ahah, this shit is surreal.....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:35 PM
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No, it's not symmetrical, for sure. It's about equity, not equality. So yes I prop women up in the situations where the male counterpart wouldn't get an ounce of support. E.g. passport bros and asian brides - I generally don't support passport bro movement because it's exploitative, but if it makes a woman happier and opens prospects of better life - yes please. My ex's brother-in-law married a Filipino girl 15 years younger and she just finished her nursing school here in NL. Maybe 15 years ago…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:18 AM
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I can totally feel (and do feel) empathy for loneliness and hopelessness, but these posts are so ridiculously absurd that they just kill it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:59 AM
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True. But then you can spend your time blaming them or alternatively you can use it to develop the skill that prevents you from succeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:56 AM
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Your comment reminded me of "sex education" episode about chlamydia outbreak in the choir "suppressed giggles"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:50 AM
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You can have intimacy and companionship and not be predatory because no, not all male sexuality is inherently predatory - it's lack of empathy, asserting your desires without learning about wants/needs of the counterpart and just generally disregarding women's sexual autonomy that can make them so (buy doesn't have to).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:26 AM
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Right. So it's not about support and validation, it's about sex and that's exactly the reason why it all doesn't add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:21 AM
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It's called social skills and confidence. Smooth talking is half the success: I am a smooth talker and can make a wall feel cared for, celebrated or entertained. It's rare that a man can do that - happened to me a few times in my lifetime and I was beyond myself (also started appreciating my own skills)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:40 AM
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My ex-husband (autistic geek btw) dated a couple of stunners before me - one was a daughter of an Australian model and looked just like her 🥵🔥she was 5 years older - he was 19, she was 24 when they started. He started balding very early and that rapidly progressed and was fat at that time. The other one was Italian Pilates teacher. I have no idea what the deal is with him getting all those beautiful women - I want to know the trick 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:24 AM
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This sub tends to extrapolate things a bit too much hence the wording. I think choosing to party once a week/month for meeting people and exercising social skills is definitely worth it in any scenario. It's not possible to assess one's prospects of succeeding as "a party animal" without giving it a go.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:05 AM
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Please spare yourself ❤️‍🩹
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:39 AM
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From my experience the main thing that stands in the way of autistic people being able to foster relationships is lowered empathy that doesn't allow them to relate. But if affective empathy is not kicking in it is possible to train cognitive empathy and make it a commitment to exercise it. In fact plenty of people just get by it. It's literally putting yourself in another person's shoes and evaluating whether that kind of treatment/attitude would be appreciated if it were you. You can try that e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:37 AM
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Your oblivious self-aggrandizing victimhood isn't going to help overcome loneliness. Go touch grass and see if you can make it sound less unhinged and more relatable. I am saying this as a person who fully understands that loneliness and hopelessness are a shitty mental space to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:18 AM
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"Tough in dating" mostly somehow comes out as "women need to mind their CMVs and beware of the wall, stop riding the chad cock-carousel or else, and you are all narcissistic sinister calculating gold-diggers". And those statements rarely come with personal anecdotes or accounts of dating experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:43 AM
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I can't imagine any therapist shaming a client (of any sex) for wanting relationship/connection. It's inherently human. However it's often the case that the person is unable to tend to his emotional or other needs when not in relationship, so they can (and should) encourage building other social connections and help grow the ability to perform self-care and self-regulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:38 AM
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That conditioning is a historical artifact. It can change if you start regarding it as such. Most humans throughout history didn't marry for love or to experience joy of living with/exploring each other. Most of the time it was sheer group survival. This perspective can offer a different perspective on the entire relationship paradigm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:26 AM
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It's not something inherent to women to the point that men cannot possibly pull off those behaviours. A lot of it is upbringing - am saying it as someone for whom that didn't come naturally despite said upbringing so I ended up being "not feminine" I learned to appreciate them and act accordingly only after sufficient amount of introspection and revision in therapy - because I consciously chose to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:18 AM
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It's up to men to start giving each other support validation and attention. It's not really rocket science. It also feels good to be giving and receiving it (and no, it's not going to make anyone gay)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:07 AM
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I would like to see what you are referencing. For me it's not obvious because I am too deeply entrenched in feminism by now where simplifications are simply unacceptable. So it's difficult for me to judge what appears on the surface. Maybe some links to "anti-men rhetoric"? Btw. I have noticed women on PPD trying really hard to explain women's viewpoints.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:52 PM
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So women need to go searching for those proves, simultaneously dismissing the ones that are being incessantly shoved into our faces. Hot take - it's up to men to make it visible to women if it's in their best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:59 PM
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It's different subsets of women spewing out different ideas "patiently". There is likely no crossover between the two - or very little.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:53 PM
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Yes, you absolutely should.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:50 PM
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Fact!🙀
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:49 PM
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It's because women historically regarded each other as rivals in terms of access to resources via men (because they were not able to access them on their own). Now that they don't directly need a man for that the urge to "throw each other under the bus" and those competitive behaviours are becoming obsolete. To be fair, having grown up in the rivalry mindset it took me many years to start seeing women in a different light. Also, it's not always reciprocal yet. But when instead of taking those at…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:40 PM
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Forced themselves when "no" has been communicated, stealthing , trying to refuse to wear condoms, choking, attempting anal or other acts without asking for consent, not listening to feedback. E.g. one guy (after I asked him to slow down) literally said:"You are not my boss!" 🥹🤯😹
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:23 PM
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I think Red Pill community is being compromised by some undercover trolls: no way someone can be saying things like this with a straight face
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:59 PM
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Stahp...😂🤣😂🤣😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:54 PM
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I personally recently attempted dating in the pool of highly-educated/super-liberal only to realize how much men are unaware of their contribution to that shit and not willing to recognize it when called out. It was so mind-boggling - like shards of my rose-coloured glasses were being ground into my brains. I really didn't expect THAT. But yeah, please go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:15 PM
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Ahah... Yup! I have actualky attempted Reddit arguements with people agreeing with me a few times😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:01 PM
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I just expanded your thought a bit further 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:50 PM
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They focus more on getting laid, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:45 PM
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No, it's rape and harrassment and lack of understanding consent that are demonized. Women would gladly embrace men who don't practice those. Spoken from experience #notallmen
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:43 PM
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Who is not allowed to discuss, eh? Motherhood difficulties are all over women's discussion boards on the internet. Except then there are redpillers who will shame and blame them for even mentioning those. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:41 PM
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Yes. Men are requested not to rape, not to harass, not to view women as objects because that's been the way they treated women historically. Capisce?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:34 AM
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It's not discrimination to require that it should be consensual and pleasurable for both/either involved parties, brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:07 AM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:00 AM
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It's absolutely useless. I have been asking myself why I do this - maybe it's a fun way to exercise awe and futility and humility (...next step is full enlightenment maybe)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:32 PM
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I mean it's exhausting labour and it's unpaid. I really wouldn't mind if someone did 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 02:04 AM
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Can you please reference at least one of the sources that you have personally seen I actually, would want a couple million dollars for time spent being a SAHM. Alternatively, will simply accept it as a compensation for having been a good gal. I wonder if you are going to run with it claiming that I "demand that amount to be paid by external parties".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 01:59 AM
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"uninhibited" is quite a stretch, there are many women who gave up on finding decent (safe, communicative, willing to learn) sexual partner altogether - so men are doing really well in terms of inhibiting undesirable behaviours 🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:04 PM
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Sexually overt behaviours in women were shamed and shunned throughout human history. And that combined perfectly well with abundant sexual abuse/trauma. Liberating encouraging message is required for women to finally be able to explore their sexual agency, gain self-awareness and understand their needs and wants and boundaries because that's not possible with internalised guilt/shame/denial narratives. If anything I noticed that the tone of those messages has been getting more cautious/conservat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:57 PM
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Glorifies communism? Ahah. I mean it does glorify Soviet past - because of intrinsic conservative need to have an inspiring narrative about "good ole times". They use WW2 as a major point, too, as in "we are fighting fascism just like them". Ugh(( But you are right overall - American conservatism is a lot more libertarian. Most people don't dig too deep (or able to).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:34 PM
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You are right, man (or anyone) can choose how to deal with his own emotions. I think it's important to assess those patterns early on in order to establish compatibility - am saying as someone who failed big time and made my life miserable trying to figure out how to foster some kind of "emotional connection" only to find out that it was never in the books. To be fair, I was clear about my needs and was willing to meet him halfway. But there was never any intention of reciprocating - I guess he …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:18 PM
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And healthy timely emotional expression is just a necessary aspect of healthy balanced functioning of psyche. It's not either/or. Emotional dysregulation comes from being unable to connect and therefore manage those emotions. It's really weird how contrarian RP approach is with it's attempts to reduce everything to some dick-measuring competition with the purpose of establishing unnecessary hierarchies - instead of trying to find connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:35 PM
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I was referencing Russia, yes. I don't live there any more - I am in NL, though still identify with the political agenda for multiple reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:45 PM
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They have been preparing bill denouncing "feminism" as dangerous ideology 😅 Source - I am a Russian feminist. The country has been falling more and more into conservative pit over the past dozen years and they definitely have been supporting (financially, too) a bunch of right-wing parties all over and pushing right-wing agenda. Never thought about it before, but Manosphere ideas is def. the kind of thing they would be willing to help spread around. OMG 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:39 PM
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Hot take: people can manifest different sides in different situations - be aggressive and overt in some and sensitive and vulnerable in others. It's healthy to be able to access the entire range : if it's one-sided - that's the sign of emotional suppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:27 PM
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Relationship is not possible without connection, connection is not possible without being vulnerable. The RP takes here are absolutely mind-boggling 🤯 But yeah, it's fine, just don't seek out any relationships fullstop
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:18 PM
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I have already explained 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:16 AM
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Damn. Never occurred to me that my high libido was supposed to be someone else's responsibility.. Damn. Life wasted..(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:03 AM
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ah that's an interesting point! And what about male karens? Do they get a d-pass? How does it work?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:39 AM
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I am a lurker on NPD subs and they say that lovebombing isn't actually intentional. It's really the very strong feeling that they get that comes out that way. I tend to attract that kind of folk, but usually go for people who are somewhat subtle and good with words so it was just a bit too intense compared to your average. I personally hate being put on pedestal, but it didn't quite feel like it. I eventually figured out how the pattern works and how to avoid it to avoid being hurt, only to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:27 AM
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they are literally the antithesis of sexy - do you think p-pass still works? I thought it only worked for women deemed at least somewhat fuckable, but I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:09 AM
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There are plenty of male douchecanoes who act like karens, yet we have to use the word "karen"? I think it is discriminating and oppressive and RP folk should rise up and claim what's rightfully men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:07 AM
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it's a small percentage of traumatized women who stick with those abusive douchebags and you are willing to insert yourself and be a part of the game just to get your dick wet? ..."shudder" ... And you don't understand how ridiculous insecure narcissists attempting to appear grandiose look - don't fool yourself it's very obvious and it's sad, like really sad. Maybe I am just too old (and so are women around me) to be impressed by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:51 AM
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maybe they are only human and want empathy and a listening ear and a hug? /s I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 10:02 AM
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Rude and selfish? and you are not being rude and selfish with your willingness to assert your personal wishes on them? you know I don't wear makeup, have high sex drive, prefer to speak directly and am bisexual and I think it would make much more sense to date narcissistic chadbrah than a narcissistic lesbian, ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 08:28 AM
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It's not going to get them sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 08:14 AM
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moreover - RP sex logic is digging deep dark grave for RP folk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:47 AM
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I did that before 40 for sure, my exfg doesn't even know how to use makeup (she is conventionally prettier than me, but hates male attention)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:44 AM
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aawww, that was such a genuinely wholesome thing to read on PP!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:38 AM
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if there wasn't a huge population of men trying to apply RP sex logic to women like OP does - there would be fewer sexless men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:32 AM
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Oooouch "drop the mic" Really, you need to make a separate post just for this. Though like anything else (even remotely) sensible in this sub it's going to land on deaf ears, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 09:07 PM
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Pffff. I don't personally know any women in my surroundings who have done any of it - with the exception of occasional makeup. That proves the point - you only notice specific kind. Ah, I actually do know - two of my cousins do lashes and nails - but they have been married with kids for way too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 08:39 PM
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There is history of some RP dudes posting as women right here. I mean otherwise you could just be suffering from internalised misogyny, no worries - many women go through "not like other girls" stage, it's quite normal - spoken as someone who has had that maybe for a good decade or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 08:28 PM
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Oh and here we have yet another "woman" telling'em insider truths slow clap
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 08:22 PM
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I have been the first homosexual experience for two women. For them it was a striking difference form their experiences with men - safety, attunement and willingness to learn and emotional involvement (same thing happened to me, actually) So taking virginity is often traumatic and not an achievement for either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:29 PM
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It may not, but it's easy to identify common tropes and general views if they are not being too careful because they are so full of themselves (on top of bitter insecurity) and view women as inferior in intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:18 PM
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That's harsh but accurate 😅😅😅
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:43 AM
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OP just needs FULL acknowledgment, validation and empathy to the problem that doesn't really exist in the way he describes. Neiher he needs an explanation or solution 😼
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:41 AM
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I usually say "can I vent?". But I also assume that the person needs to let it out before implying that the person needs a solution because I know people are not dumb and will ask for help resolving it if they need specifically that. Or If I am feeling a strong urge to be a smartass I will say "Omg that's a difficult situation..! And now can I offer my humble piece of wisdom?" So do you need a solution or need to vent? Solution: deal with the emotional side first, offer solution second . And no,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 09:37 AM
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sometimes people need help coping with the emotion more than the solution - maybe the solution is clear, but the emotion is in the way. you never really vent to anyone and then feel better? talk to a therapist? ust scream into the void? unload to your friends? complain on internet forums? share your grief on reddit subs *wink wink*? sharing difficult emotions with empathetic listener helps humans calm down and function better
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:09 PM
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they want emotional support and empathy - just like RP guys want that from women for all their suffering
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:30 PM
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they DON'T because they consider many more factors (than just having a vagina) unlike men - same reason why casual gay dating scene is apparently easier for men than straight dating. so yes, of course, it makes sense for men to listen to women if they want to have relationships with them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:42 PM
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it is harder because they don't view you as a piece of flesh: it's a lot more factors that go into it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:00 PM
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I feel like it's some odd dick-squeezing/shaking competition for the title of manly man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:06 PM
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Threat? If you are acting up. Otherwise nobody has any ducks to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:03 PM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:59 PM
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That purposeful misinterpretation that's so characteristic of RP... netflix'n'chill is great. And then there are other activities that are also great. I have a feeling you will try hard to find something else to latch on - don't bother, I got your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:09 PM
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It's not that I like spending money, but I like doing things, you know. Unfortunately, they come with expenditures - that's sadly how life is 🥹 But you do you, there are probably girls who would find that lifestyle appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:51 PM
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Ehmmm....wild though - you can't spend time doing stuff together BEYOND that, AS WELL? Go on a trip, try new food, see a concert, have a picnic... something? To be honest, this thread is truly bizarre (like many others) - it really is fascinating to watch how one can actively try and defend that point of view and blame women for not wanting to go along.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:40 PM
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just hang out? feels like men's idea of relationship is netflix'n'chill and any effort to initiate something outside that realm is too much to pull off. yeah, no wonder women have no incentives to date, why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:36 PM
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Narcissists are not born this way 🤦🥲🤦🥲 It's early childhood trauma - some time between one and three 🥲 Can you at least read up before you post please thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:26 PM
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In case you need reference - this is short overview https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-narcissist-in-your-life/201910/is-narcissism-treatable And some more https://thenarcissisticlife.com/can-a-narcissist-change/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:25 PM
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Oh. I have so far read Masterson, Kernberg, Greenberg and that seems to be fairly standard clinical approach that I quoted. I would rather trust them, but thanks for your consideration. Please go ahead, treat narcissists with social engagement and report back to mental health community? Bitter RP teens from this subreddit would be a good start, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:24 PM
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Ouch...where did you get that from? Narcissists cannot function WITHOUT others, that's the entire premise. They only come alive when admired (or hated) because they are missing sense of self. There are plenty of "communal narcissists" who get validation aka "narcissistic supply" from volunteering/philanthropy/activism etc. - it's a common trope. Even in that case they only relate to others as objects, so no, self-empathy and self-acceptance are absolutely essential for their ability to perceive …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:45 PM
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"women are ruthless"🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:50 PM
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I am here to enlighten you - "narcissistic" trauma is early caretaker rejection trauma and results in lack of self-acceptance. In extreme cases subsequent self-hate and fear of connection are so intense that cannot be identified because of their destructive nature. Therefore they come out as projection - hating others (quite possibly along with envy, bitterness, deflection, denial, blame-shifting, vindictiveness, entitlement etc.) I hope that helped💓
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:33 PM
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Hot take: narcissism is actually based on trauma of lack of self-love. So healing and loving yourself is a basis for self-growth, self-care and also ability to relate to others with empathy and consideration (and bonus! - comes with not having to be a bitter jerk about others pursuit of happiness)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:18 PM
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Women aren't interested in peace and security? And guys don't want travel (and adventure and excitement and self-actualisation)? Wat?? Like all that is something inherently incompatible and makes it impossible for the person be a companion in all of it? Makes zero sense tbh because none of those seem to be mutually exclusive. Does anyone care to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 02:55 PM
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Same thing for women, duh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:51 AM
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No really, I actually did
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:47 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/s/Z92ZTSBQak "Surgut sand" just killed me...🥹❤️‍🩹 Enjoy!😜
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:42 AM
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Ahah... Yes! Unironically, current geoguessr champion is 🔥🥵😍🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:37 AM
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Stop fixating on women: demonizing or idealising or whatever. Live your life beyond all that in the way that makes you feel as fulfilled and as happy as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:34 AM
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Sorry, I was being snarky ...😬 But yes, I absolutely agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:15 AM
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There's something to that idea...🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:45 AM
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A person can be within "normal range" and aware , yet score somewhat high on the Triad. NPD itself is a different beast because it is involves unintended self-delusion and splitting (as in complete inability to recognize your own darker sides and projecting them onto others). Self-awareness is such a threat that defenses will not allow it to happen. Some more aware NPDs get there through so called "collapse" and it's a state full of intense dread and pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:04 AM
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Nah, it's obviously either housewives or feminists and then trenches and desolate no man's land between them /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:37 AM
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My ex husband's s cousin is a CHAD, like uncanny CHAD-CHAD - he married a woman 17 years older with two daughters: kids were teens back then. 15 years later still going strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:34 AM
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I was thinking about good ole video of music video "Flowers in the Window" by Travis when I was reading this 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:29 AM
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Wtf dude
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:26 AM
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Look, I will break it down for you: nobody has to assume that you want a relationship unless that's what you said with words out of your mouth . And stringing along is having heard that and pretending to be willing to commit to it that without having any intentions to do so in the long run. Good luck!🤞
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:19 PM
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Having dated men made me more predisposed to exploring my homosexual side, for sure (I know I would be hated if I said that in lesbian circles) My first homosexual relationship was with my best friend who confessed she had feelings for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:55 PM
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You are good for mids? Gawd....the audacity. But don't dispair - if work on your oral sex skills you might have a chance with some obese single mom. But casual sex only, obviously. It's ok, bruv, life is hard, but believe in yourself ❤️‍🩹
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:52 PM
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Yup, that's exactly so!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:40 PM
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I believe that they hate themselves underneath all that and that's a projection, to be exact.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:34 PM
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Of course, I wasn't characterizing the reply, but general RP trend - it definitely made me more weary of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:40 PM
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I am sorry for people unable to understand simple notions. Unfortunately, there is not much I can do to help. Ça va 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:51 PM
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"Sigh". Household chores/parental tasks are unpaid labour fullstop. It's something that you spend time and effort doing on a daily basis and you get no money for it. Capisce? No need to thank me for spending time and effort to explain this basic thing. I get it: you are either dense or trolling or want someone to be genuinely interested in washing your socks - llikely all of it. But it's ok. Maybe consider going to the local restaurant and say you would be willing to do the dishes for three meal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:42 PM
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Feminists complaint is that household chores are not considered labour. And it is unpaid. So this labour division needs to be taken into consideration when we talk about contributing to household.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:31 PM
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If he does - he should really start living on his own, by the sound of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:28 PM
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Exactly. It doesn't make it any less of unpaid labour. That's what I said: women can choose to work and contribute financially and then share household chores (aka unpaid labour) with their partner according to the out-of-house workload. Or choose to do the entirety the unpaid labour while husband is breadwinning, but that comes with dependance/possibility of financial insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:20 PM
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I just voiced my approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:17 PM
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They work more because for a lot of women fulltime household chores and kid-rearing are NOT easier and NOT more rewarding compared to having a career and come with a BIGGER chance of financial insecurity. So they make a choice. If both people are working then they share chores/parenting tasks according to the out-of-house workload. Propaganda? 🥹 I was a SAHM and any job I had was easier than that, but childcare prices were insane so I did it. I wouldn't do it again. I don't really know any woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:16 PM
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You can resolve that by living on your own
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:43 PM
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Feminists complaints are not about conscious agreements between partners considering each other's preferences: they complain about skewed preexisting societal expectations and denial that household chores is unpaid labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:41 PM
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I would say it's blue. I know feminists who made a conscious choice to do housework and raise kids while their husband was breadwinning. Both are work. And then I actually dated a Dutch guy who was first stay-at-home dad for his two daughters and then worked parttime and took care of the household while his wife was making loads of money in finance. It can be tricky, however, in case of failure of that marriage - if you gave up or partially stalled your career to do unpaid work you will have lim…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:05 PM
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One of my exes (guy) always reminded me to go to the toilet when I was feeling lazy 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:34 PM
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🤦🥹🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:45 AM
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Exactly. They should spell it out on their tinder profile, I would say 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:44 AM
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Of course, there is a stereotype. Representatives of those cultures tend to be more culturally conservative and most women in the west are more liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:42 AM
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He thinks vitriol they collectively are spewing out is a solid proof. Man, what a miserable life if they are ready to tear everyone this way (including each other) and it's awful that RP becoming more common
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:36 AM
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Exactly. This sub is a proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:30 AM
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Nope, of course. It can be entertaining and creepy at the same time, I have no problem with nuanced feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:05 AM
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it's just a picture. it doesn't require selling your soul to dementor. and not every woman is a social media diva. I don't know any personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:44 PM
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brah...ahah, just don't
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:41 PM
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You have the right for whatever preferences you have, it's just dehumanising/insulting overweight women is not ok. I wouldn't date an overweight man either, so what.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:33 PM
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Not just dull or unattractive but also SUBSCRIBING TO RP IDEAS
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:29 PM
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It is not hard to admit at all. I fully acknowledge they have problems. But they come with specifics such as: allwomenbad, enforce monogamy, everyone is a golddigger, I am 5.8. and it's over for me etc etc. Do you expect us to acknowledge all that? Also, RPs generally tend to negate women's problems and therefore no constructive dialogue seems possible. Like how is dating supposed to happen if they tell us that what we experience as hardship and would like to address is a delusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:28 PM
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RP folk and modern day manosphere misogyny definitely is much more unhinged and sociopathic than previous "women are dumb and weak" benevolent sexism. Reading this sub gives me heebie jeebies "shudder"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:19 PM
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If red pillers are NPDs (as I assume) - the common defense mechanism is projecting: whatever they feel/think about other people (and that's never positive because inherent fear and paranoia) will be presumed to be those people's attitude . Like they won't recognize the feeling "I hate you" but will assert "You hate me". So maybe those women are not cruel 😅 I have been reading a lot on NPD recently and it's fascinating. Also makes it almost impossible to get through those defenses (deflection, de…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:24 PM
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BPDs are common psyche patients because they don't have the defenses that would protect them from constant emotional distress (unlike NPDs)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:22 PM
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They are likely covert NPDs as opposed to grandiose - they tend to be people-pleasers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:04 PM
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I actually believe that Red Pillers are either very far on narcissism spectrum or have full-on covert NPD. And BPD/NPD relationships are a common occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:02 PM
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I assume these dudes are actually terminally online and have zero relationship experience but keep spewing nonsensical statements and then come up with some "very believable anecdotal evidence from their life" to prove the point. And so it goes on and on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:48 PM
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It could also be akin to covert narcissism traits - when people are only nice (or whatever positive trait) when they are motivated by immediate perceived merit. So that "nice" is actually just a fine layer on top of otherwise shitty and can be blown off any moment. Also, looking at all the way most redpillers here present their arguments - they are vindictive, aggressive, unempathetic, extremely self-centred and entitled. Acting "nice" on top of that is not going to fool anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:33 PM
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Or vilified or ridiculed or objectified or infantilized. Oh nostalgie..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:45 PM
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First date - no. But went to the movies every other week with my ex, it was really lovely 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:40 PM
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Yup. It's literally a term for casual sex date 😅😅😅
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:12 PM
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There are asexual men, too, for sure and there would be certain apps that cater better for that preference? Maybe Feeld/OkCupid, but Google would know better. It's just that you have to be upfront with that information to weed out everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:36 PM
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Right. "Femme" aesthetic is not as popular with lesbians as it is with men. I am personally not into it - maybe because appeals to some abstract male gaze?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:29 PM
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Surely, repeatedly demonstrated that looks and initial sexual attraction play a big role - but it's not the only factor that defines the complexity of human relationships. You viciously oppose abstract nonsensical unquantifiable "emotional connection" : and there is no insecurity and fear and longing when you can label it as unachievable unrelatable bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:50 AM
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Ahah .....ahahah
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:31 AM
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Just because you are treating women as sex objects that are not delivering gratification doesn't mean it's impossible for people to relate to people in other ways. You don't get it - it's about you personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:30 AM
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Lol. Men can be spewing whatever hostile dehumanising TRP TRUTH, but women are NOT EMPATHETIC ENOUGH.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:24 AM
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Where? On this forum? I don't think anyone should be expecting properly phrased therapeutic responses from dwellers of random hostile Reddit sub: doesn't mean that it can't happen but that expectation is going to cause you more harm than any good. It's best to do it with therapists/closest people/designated safe groups and then yourself. Though I actually find that majority of women posters here are unreasonably kind and patient 🤍
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:20 AM
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Right....🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:39 AM
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THE TRUTH 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:23 AM
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It's a man. Sad miserable man who dedicated a lot of time and effort to produce TRP-propaganda (of dubious quality). <image> Bizarre eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:21 AM
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Good god. Did he really assume it's possible for a woman to think that way and therefore it's even remotely believable? Surreal. But then - nobody really got any suspicions that long? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:49 PM
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<image> Dude has shared a lot of wisdom here, btw, generating "interesting conversations" LARPing as "woman who sees and shares truth unlike others". So could it be a hint that the entirety of TRP is self-propagating cycle of bullshit. BTW my personal peeve - it's poorly done not very creative writing. Sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:32 PM
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It's the extrapolations, broad generalisations, narcissistic delusions and black-n-white thinking that are applied to some things that actually happen. It's warped and is not very likely to get you anywhere besides more dread and despair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:14 PM
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Btw if you haven't noticed OP is another sad sad dude LARPing as a woman in order to instill more misery into his TRP brothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:52 PM
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If OP lies about "her" gender - everything else is very likely to be bullshit, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:47 PM
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I am actually surprised nobody picked up on it earlier because it's very poorly executed larping 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:45 PM
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Well, he is a miserable person propagating more misery. Basically, that's the entire premise of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:29 PM
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There is no escape. You are trapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:27 PM
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According to "her" other posts "she" is happily married. I know, I know - it's painful and denial and deflection are there to protect you. It's ok, you will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:19 PM
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The motivation is reinforcing misery in TRP comrades as himself. It's actually a sad sad dude posting as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:18 PM
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Brah. I have sad news for you: it proves exactly nothing because OP is some sad loser posting as a woman. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:16 PM
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Also this <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:10 PM
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No, that's unkind to bitches. He is a sad miserable fck 🥲 <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:08 PM
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OP is not a woman sharing her honest life experiences "sad cringe" <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:07 PM
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Honestly? The post is not even a woman. "Honestly" my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:04 PM
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He, he is a prize. It's a dude posting as a woman. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:01 PM
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Oh no he deleted this comment!!! Does anyone have a screenshot? I want to fckn FRAME IT 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:46 PM
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100% TRP theory almost without any nuance or anecdotes of personal life as a woman (except for the last post). Also is consuming a lot of TRP video material and is very well informed. That's quite some impressive dedication for a married chick! <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:30 PM
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Right. I mean even red pill women cannot possibly have the total sum of these opinions without any nuance. What a sad sad human. Sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:37 PM
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I checked the profile. It's obviously a dude posting as a woman. There is literally zero nuance - it's just regurgitation of TRP shit. Like very dumb unnuanced regurgitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:24 PM
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OP is not a woman, it's some sad loser posting as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:21 PM
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OP is NOT a woman, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:18 PM
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It's obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:16 PM
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OP is a cringefcknfest: it's a dude posting as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:16 PM
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OP is sad loser of a man, not a woman sharing hidden truths. Sigh. Wtf is this lunacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:12 PM
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Haha. His post history is incessant dumb regurgitation of TRP truths with absolutely ZERO nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:10 PM
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It's a he. OP is obviously a "he" and in need of therapy. Urgent need 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:06 PM
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OP is a dude. Honest redpill dude pretending to be a woman sharing honest opinions 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:05 PM
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OP is a dude 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:02 PM
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I looked at the OPs profile. Wtf, it's clearly a dude, duh 😅 Then guys here pick up these posts/comments as a proof from a woman who actually "knows" so that they could "frame it" Ahah, I cannot. That's some really awful but hilarious shit and but also just really shows the essence of the entire pill. Damn I'm cringing and lolling simultaneously 😂 😂 😂 I mean cmon, how much lower can you go🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:52 PM
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There has been enough progress for me to personally observe and experience in my lifetime to not want to go back to what was 40 years ago though I acknowledge problems that come with more traditional communities falling apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:15 PM
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Wat...I had the immediate eek reaction at seeing him which I actually never have. It's really the opposite of attractive for me. I actually dated a gymbro once: more despite his muscles rather than because of them 😅 He was very chill and kind-hearted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:33 PM
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It seems to be an improvement though because there seems to be not much desire for women to give up those freedoms and go back to good ole times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:47 PM
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Any woman wants only 20% top men and if they are with someone who isn't - then she is actually going to use and abuse him. Kek. It makes zero sense to try and argue with this circular logic. I however suspect that these are more paranoid projections of what they think they would do themselves and that makes it all even creepier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:36 PM
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Hot take, right? Best relationship in my life was with another mom because among other things love was displayed through mutual cooperation and just made it all so much lighter and easier and more joyful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:48 AM
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Exactly. It has been socially unacceptable for women to voice their misery and it isn't too welcome now either, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:39 AM
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Oh no, he hasn't clued in and realized that he had been betabuxxing all along and therefore is happy in his delusion /s. People have been making choices given their own awareness/understanding and some were perfectly happy with them - it's irrelevant because ultimately you make your own choices and then others make their own, but they don't necessarily add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:36 AM
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Omg. There are dating choice preferences that you are entitled to have (and possibly exercise if they are realistic) Then why would you need to pin everyone to some dehumanising scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:27 AM
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I know some single fathers who prefer to date mothers because it's mutually convenient to cooperate given how much energy/effort those anklebiters require. I also know plenty people wouldn't date me because I am a mother. Oh, and when I dated another mom whose kids go to the same school and are friends with mine and they lived 10 minutes away - it was a dream come true. Point is: everyone has their set of expectations depending on their personal circumstances. So can anyone point out exactly wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:20 AM
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You can't be serious. My kid is 10 and I am terrified at the idea of the things that he will have to face and questioning if it was responsible of me to be bringing him into this world. The answer is "no, it wasn't, but here we go". The amount of narcissistic bullshit I see on this sub is surreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:34 AM
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Defense mechanism: it protects me from having adverse reactions from people's apparent stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:25 AM
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Damn! slow clap
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:58 PM
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Yes. Women are somewhat behind men in that respect though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:35 PM
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Traditional cultures tend to present as "masculine", almost homoerotic even to westerners because women have severely limited agency and therefore engagement in almost any aspect of life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:43 PM
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I will ask again: how exactly do you picture equality in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:22 PM
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Why lying though? It definitely adds me at least one point of conventional attractiveness otherwise why bother applying makeup? And I would rank myself accordingly for the effort 😂 If a man is trying to pin a girl against that scale - it's up to them to do the calculations to make sure it's fair. Or not to engage at all if they are concerned about lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:33 PM
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To be fair I had that, too 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:26 PM
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You are deluded thinking that earlier social paradigm was somehow more humane and allowed deep connections for an average joe. It was sheer survival for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:24 PM
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My point is: do you have a tendency to visually prefer women with excessive makeup? Because you can choose to not engage - I personally don't (for many reasons).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:12 PM
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There is probably a correlation of some sort: like "I am 10 and she is 10 and we are a perfect match"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:07 PM
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You would probably consider her unattractive and pay no attention if she wasn't wearing makeup initially, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:05 PM
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Interesting. I actually heard that from FtMs: that testosterone significantly boosts their confidence/mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:02 PM
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Women on average are socially expected to make a continuous elaborate effort to look more conventionally attractive. So those tens could really be some of them evaluating their investments into looks? I would def. pat myself on the back with at least a nine if I spent significant amount of money/time on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:57 PM
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Ah I get it. I think I made it confusing about how early and how directly I voice them. Nah, I am really good at small talk and any other kind of talk and no, I will not out of the blue start reciting my manifesto😅😂😅 In OLD dating context it would be more like when the conversation drifts along those lines I will not try to navigate around them attempting to avoid awkward subject. Also, even little things/ways can provide sufficient information - I don't need full manifesto, either🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:27 PM
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That's an interesting take, and somewhat odd. I don't need to voice those opinions in the situations that don't require it. But I definitely do when I engage with the person of interest because it's PARAMOUNT to be able to identify compatibility, no? If I am a feminist and he is redpill - that renders relationship impossible so why would I choose NOT to make things clear from the start to avoid wasting each other's time?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:01 PM
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How do you imagine equity/equality in dating? It's NOT a socioeconomic commodity. Humans are not entitled to any relationships, nor they are entitled to any kind of provisions that allow their equal distribution. I had some sad friendless years having moved to a new country - it really sucked! But it was my problem to resolve. Feminism is about empowering women to exercise their agency while giving an option to go beyond traditionally stipulated roles - they can make their choices about how to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:52 PM
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Yes! There is reasoning of "womenawful/wearwdoomed" to ANY given scenario and oftentimes those scenarios and explanations directly contradict each other and also benefit exactly no one. It's fascinating, really, but also kinda tragic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:14 PM
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I have a feeling lack of self-awareness is at the core of the entire purple pill ordeal. Because if you line it all up it turns out that men just don't want women to act the same way they do because suddenly they are inconvenienced 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:25 PM
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Pfff, I live in NL where women tend to wear very little makeup. I actually don't like it and seldom wear it myself and definitely appreciate natural looks on women. But I assume either would be dismissed by an average tinderdude as unattractive 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:22 PM
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I do really have great social skills, I just don't care if men will find my political stance unattractive. In fact I make sure I voice loud and clear early on so that we don't continue bothering each other in case of major disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:17 PM
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Equal to what? If men treat other men in some dehumanising manner does it mean that women are going to be treated equally badly? There are at least a couple posts here every week demanding that women display empathy to men's suffering without offering any empathy in return, of course. How does that align with the notion of "equality"? Capisce?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:13 PM
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How dare a woman have an opinion of her own and who let her voice them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:03 PM
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Ahah...oh man.....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:53 AM
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Blue pill should really mean - don't be a narcissistic douche and have emotional intelligence/empathy to be able to relate to women as humans
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:52 AM
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A lot of childfree single people can (and do) engage in activities that help their community and society - because they have time and energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:50 AM
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Hold on..it is predatory to consider whether a man will be a good father to HIS OWN children and if he will be willing to cooperate and contribute to COMMON household? Ahah...I can't with this. This is then followed by "what were those single moms thinking", right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:47 AM
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Brilliant upd/ forgot to add/s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:41 AM
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Women had no agency until recently and only now are discovering what their personal wants/needs/aspirations are. You can only build a proper relationship with someone who has that figured out. But really you just want an object to fit your fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:36 AM
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As a person who OLDated women and men - women are more attractive on average: as in making effort to appear attractive and willing to communicate in a sensible manner (initially😅) With men you are much more likely to get some verbal shitstorm sooner than later, so expectations are very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:23 AM
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Accusing women of hypergamy when men exhibit the exact same behaviour is really bizarre...Like duh...Makes me wonder why: is it that they are oblivious to their own hypergamous aspirations? (*Asking as someone who was never popular and never aspired to because common sense)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:14 AM
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I was married and have a kid. In retrospect it would have been better for everyone if it didn't happen - if I had the self-awareness I have today I would have stayed single longer to work on my issues and probably remained childfree. I look at women nowadays and they are much more aware and independent and are more careful with relationship decisions than I was ten years ago. And then, obviously, online dating is offering a way of choosing partner that wasn't there before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:05 AM
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good gawd
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:14 AM
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never too late to start: just go and pull someone's chair
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:13 AM
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sometimes I wonder if participating in these discussions just amplifies it somewhat because they would double(triple)down on frantically mounting more defenses
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:12 AM
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once again: because sex is not a commodity and is not a basic need and isn't something that has to be equally distributed. I like my shoulders massaged, it wouldn't occur me to demand it satisfied because "leftie feminist common field". Or it never occurred to me to demand sexual needs met - like it's up to me to find ways to resolve that, believe it or not - sausage fest out there doesn't make it an easy task.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:02 AM
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"shackled" dude, it's roughly a hundred years or less that somewhat significant proportion of population got to pursue their individual wants and needs because before that you could only survive as a part of the family - with the older man in charge of the brood. and ta-dam surprise-surprise - women were always ranked lower in family/social hierarchy than men and therefore they were liberated/allowed freedoms a lot later and there it is. women somehow shackled men but had to provide all the serv…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:00 AM
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sex is not a commodity - neither are women's bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:28 AM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:26 AM
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It's just that men's opinion on society and family was common denomination and now they are surprised to find out that women have their own preferences that don't align with it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:18 AM
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equal treatment as in "treating everyone like shit irrespective of gender because that's how I roll"? you aren't one of the pouting and demanding empathy, by any chance, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:12 AM
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What is even this sub? Narcissism Olympics among sad delusional people that deserve compassion (from really far away)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:23 PM
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I believe there is a big subset of population high in narcissistic traits (more men) that will not exercise empathy/accountability/understanding etc. unless they see some personal merit to it (aka internal motivation). And empathy required from others is just for their own validation - it doesn't mean that they will be willing to pay back. It actually makes ZERO sense to empathize with them because it will just make them self-victimize more. That's why this sub is a fascinating (funny yet tragic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:09 PM
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Summary: I believe it's my natural right to treat people like shit and I don't understand why you might have a problem with it. Damn, this sub is surreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:32 PM
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I playfight with my son and his friend a lot, unlike his dad: that doesn't mean I'd want a random kid to try and tackle me 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:27 PM
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Wow that level of argument...I am all for consensual sex with contraceptives (or vasectomy) or not - if the person/people are willing to fully commit to endless exhausting responsibility of being parent/s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:19 PM
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Woman, huh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:09 PM
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Just don't have sex...oh wait 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:08 PM
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"bastard"...geez, I was born in the 80s in a socially conservative place and never even once heard that: have we really progressed that far?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:38 PM
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it's easy - you have/do something and the other person has/does something and then it's a fair exchange
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:52 PM
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Objectification means what it means - acting as if person is an object by projecting your own assumptions/wishful thinking without taking into consideration that the counterpart has a mind of her own on why/how/whatfors etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:19 PM
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