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| 3 | How do you help a husband who has a low self esteem?Men are sent a very clear message that they have worth only if they meet certain criteria. Think of all the talk of "losing your man card." Or look at TRP, trying way too hard to be Chad. Once a man accepts this premise, it really doesn't matter what success he achieves or how often his beautiful wife tells him he's sexy. That can all change in an instant. His sense of worth is built on a foundation of sand and he knows it. Your long-term goal should be to counteract this attitude. Praise will o… | /r/RedPillWives | 25/05/16 08:44 AM |
| 4 | Q4B: What's wrong with liberal feminism?I have no idea whether the kid in your link is guilty or not--all we have is the word of his mother. At any rate he was eventually acquitted. I do think schools are ill-equipped to handle criminal justice issues though, so we agree on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 08:07 PM |
| 3 | Q4B: What's wrong with liberal feminism?I am a sexually active man. I am happy to shoulder the burden of getting explicit verbal consent from my partners and not sleeping with women who I don't trust to some degree. If my judgement fails and I get accused of rape, I will rely on "beyond a reasonable doubt" to protect me. Casual sex is actually the least casual of all sex: you have to take steps to protect yourself, be safe, and make sure everything is ethical and above board. That's why I mostly don't fuck with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4B: What's wrong with liberal feminism?There are many such spaces, though. That's literally all I, and many other feminists, mean when we say that rape culture exists. There are loopholes built into the fabric of society that make rape easier to do. I am personally willing to pay a pretty heavy cost to close down these loopholes--almost everything except throwing out the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard for a criminal conviction is an option for me. I hope you understand where I'm coming from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Q4B: What's wrong with liberal feminism?Thanks for responding honestly. Do you see how, at least in this one narrow case, the dichotomy is true? A rigidly enforced underage drinking law creates a space in which rapists can operate with less fear of getting caught. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 06:50 PM |
| 5 | Q4B: What's wrong with liberal feminism?I completely support the "all of the above" approach you described. I'll try to pin you down one more time: do you, personally, think we should have immunity laws to protect underage drinkers who report rapes or rape attempts? Yes or no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 06:19 PM |
| 6 | Q4B: What's wrong with liberal feminism?Are you really more concerned with catching kids drinking than with catching rapists? Because that's, like, the definition of rape culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 05:59 PM |
| 4 | Q4B: What's wrong with liberal feminism?Thanks for being open to new evidence! Like I said, I think she should have reported and I and all my friends would have been 100% behind her if she had. In the end, it wasn't enough. Question for you: did the attempted rapist in your story face criminal charges? Or was it just vigilante justice from the other party guests? I'm not trying to score rhetorical points, just curious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 05:38 PM |
| 3 | Q4B: What's wrong with liberal feminism?The question was whether rape victims were ever "ridiculed or not taken seriously" by anyone. You made an extremely strong claim that was easy to disprove, and I disproved it. EDIT: thanks for the downvote. Cry some more! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 05:33 PM |
| 6 | Q4B: What's wrong with liberal feminism?Underage drinking laws vary by jurisdiction. Where I live, minors and their friends are not protected from charges if someone has to go to a hospital over an alcohol-related incident. I urged her to report, but I couldn't find any source to cite to guarantee that she wouldn't face consequences. EDIT: As of January, this loophole still existed in Wisconsin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 05:22 PM |
| 2 | Q4B: What's wrong with liberal feminism?Bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 05:11 PM |
| 7 | Q4B: What's wrong with liberal feminism?I was at a house party where a guy drugged a girl's drink and tried to carry her out the door. All night he had tried to create the impression that he was her boyfriend so we wouldn't see what was going on; thank god we saw through this and stopped him. She didn't report the rape attempt because she was underage and was afraid of getting in trouble for drinking. This is a great example of how our laws and cultural norms have loopholes which allow rapists to operate with relative impunity. Anothe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 05:02 PM |
| 3 | Question for BP: Do you agree with the sentiments expressed in this thread?My reading comprehension is fine. I read all about how TRP treats AWALT as literally true when they think no one is looking and backpedals to a relatively defensible stance when called on their bullshit. I don't go along with this infantile game by giving the benefit of the doubt when there's none left to give. Acta non verba. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 04:29 PM |
| 6 | Question for BP: Do you agree with the sentiments expressed in this thread?If that's not what they meant, they should have chosen a different acronym. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/16 12:17 AM |
| 5 | Question for BP: Do you agree with the sentiments expressed in this thread?OK, this is a lot more interesting and harder to give a pat answer to than the original question. You know that you're venting frustration with specific bad experiences with specific women. She doesn't know that though. From her perspective, you may very well be generalizing about her entire gender. First off, you shouldn't say "I really hate women sometimes," especially not to women. At best it's inarticulate, and at worst you'll burn bridges. I'd say the same thing with the genders reversed, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/16 10:08 PM |
| 9 | Question for BP: Do you agree with the sentiments expressed in this thread?TRP literally says "All Women Are Like That." If a feminist (Andrea Dworkin, for example) says "All men are [rapists, violent, sexist, patriarchal, etc.]" then Not All Men is a valid counterargument and needs to be said. The problem is that Not All Men gets brought up when no one has claimed to be speaking about all men. Then it's a bullshit strawman derailing tactic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/16 09:45 PM |
| 3 | Would you say gender roles should be "forced" on people?The question is about what society's rules should be. Do you think society should reject gender nonconforming people? Why or why not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/16 04:09 PM |
| -1 | Q4BP: can't you technically phrase any interaction between humans as 'manipulative'?TheChemist is working with the definition of "psychological manipulation" as commonly understood by the vast majority of the english-speaking world, including psychologists. This is more, not less, meaningful than OP's extremely broad definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/16 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Identifying and Addressing Problematic Behavior(s)Male, straight, semi-open LTR, non-pill What are your personal ‘red-flags’? Shortsightedness (the figurative kind, not the glasses kind), selfishness, under or overconfidence, poor self-image, insecurity, frequent or overly intense anger, holding grudges. What are your deal-breakers? Hard drugs/other addictions, cheating, controlling my social or family life, cutting me off from sex, uncontrolled mental illness, excessive debt, pathological lying, and pretty much anything that could be called em… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/16 05:55 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A man cannot be confident with women unless he attains sexual experience.And yet virgins get laid every single day! Virginity (in men at any age or women past about age 20) is a real and significant disadvantage. That doesn't mean it's a death sentence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/16 01:10 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A man cannot be confident with women unless he attains sexual experience.Do you believe this to be a redpill or anti-redpill opinion? I think you'll find a lot of agreement on both sides. I certainly agree and don't see how this would be particularly controversial. Success breeds confidence and failure destroys it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/16 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Can blue pillers and Red pillers be friends in real life?Let me answer the question in your title first. I would have no problem being friends with someone who held RP opinions, or who was "jacked, handsome, well-dressed and [had] a high-status job for [his] age." Having lots of casual sex is perfectly all right as well. However, I have a near-zero tolerance for dark triad or unethical/amoral behavior from my friends. Anything beyond normal human frailty and imperfection earns you a hard next, as TRP would say. Same with anyone who tries to AMOG me or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/16 08:32 PM |
| 3 | In light of the RPWives/RPWomen split, what is the role of trad-con and marriage in relation to TRP?I believe the term is gerbiling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/16 07:13 PM |
| 18 | Why is the market for straight, fat/curvy men essentially non-existent compared to the market for curvy/thick women?she does have some tummy HAHAHAHA no. Same person, different angle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/16 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Why is the market for straight, fat/curvy men essentially non-existent compared to the market for curvy/thick women?Fuck, beaten by 1 minute! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/16 10:52 PM |
| 8 | Why is the market for straight, fat/curvy men essentially non-existent compared to the market for curvy/thick women?Not hard to find where the image came from. She's quite literally one of the "gym girls". If she's overweight it's only from muscle. Source: https://www.instagram.com/camilita1207/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/16 10:48 PM |
| 17 | Why is the market for straight, fat/curvy men essentially non-existent compared to the market for curvy/thick women?I guarantee her BMI, bodyfat percentage, and dress size are all nowhere near overweight. In fact, she's probably below average in all of those. You seem to be suffering from a pretty severe case of Internet Male Syndrome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/16 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Is the Alt Right the Future of TRP?Ron Paul is a neo-confederate authoritarian, as are many of the USA's self-described libertarians. TRP's move from Ron Paul/right-libertarianism to Trump/alt-right is not at all surprising in light of this information. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/16 10:02 PM |
| 3 | How do I vet men?This is a great list! Any old jerk can lift weights and flatter you long enough to get you hooked. These, on the other hand, are much harder to fake. As long as the chemistry is there, I can't think of anything I'd add. | /r/RedPillWives | 18/04/16 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong for a woman to expect a man to be nice to her if she has sex with him?I expect people to be nice to me whether or not we have sex. I'm male, but I think lots of women agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/16 12:58 AM |
| 7 | [Question for All] What is your idea of a good male role model?Atticus Finch, as portrayed by Gregory Peck in To Kill a Mockingbird. He represents kind of an unattainable ideal. Successful professional career, involved father, unshakable moral convictions, excellent self control, willing to do the right thing even if it turns his community against him, uses his considerable privilege for the benefit of the downtrodden. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/16 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Can there be an ethical approach to the red pill?I completely agree. "Letting them win" is a potential effect of one's actions or inaction and must be considered when deciding what to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/16 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Can there be an ethical approach to the red pill?Can there be an ethical approach to the red pill? My answer is no. I logic thusly: I define "ethical behavior" as choosing your actions with equal weight given to the likely effects on others vs. yourself. Let me know if you have a different definition. Displaying dark triad traits (narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy) is deeply embedded in RP canon. If you do not display dark triad traits, you are not following RP. A callous disregard for the effects of your actions on others is an ess… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/16 07:04 PM |
| 1 | In this situation, would you believe your SO?People often don't respond to trauma the way you think they should. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/16 06:09 PM |
| 2 | In this situation, would you believe your SO?It's not acceptable in your relationship(s). In other people's it might be. Individual couples have to negotiate these things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/16 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Actual Nice Guy, Asshole, and SupplicantCan confirm, am a dude, first girlfriend was a supplicant, it sucked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/15 08:07 AM |
| 1 | What role does sending death threats to blue pillers have in self improvement.Dude, those are all really tame. If that's the worst you've gotten I'd say TBP is doing pretty well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 05:19 AM |
| 2 | I made a survey for this subredditI take from this that they remain blue pill precisely because it's been unnecessary for them to look for alternative sexual strategies. Or, alternatively, non-RP relationship advice works. Other than sports, the best thing I ever did for my SMV was stop treating women like some kind of Other. I find it hard to believe Yeah, I would easily bet 3 to 1 odds that most of the people reporting 20+ partner counts are lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/15 10:13 PM |
| 5 | TBP: Why is "Holding Frame" seen as wrong/manipulative/abusive in your opinion?goddammit dude I was specifically avoiding going for the Godwin | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/15 02:02 AM |
| 2 | TBP: Why is "Holding Frame" seen as wrong/manipulative/abusive in your opinion?I'd much rather be a Dave Grohl than a Kanye West, but suit yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/15 01:24 AM |
| 3 | Why is there no BP sub that discusses it's ideological strategy?"Amoral" is a cop-out. A racoon stealing food is amoral. A bear mauling someone is amoral. An earthquake leveling a town is amoral. Humans, on the other hand, have moral agency and are capable of reflecting on the effects their actions will have on others. A human can't be amoral without also being immoral. EDIT: What event(s) are you thinking of where Dan Savage publicly berated someone? All I can think of is Santorum, which I don't have any problem with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/15 12:42 AM |
| 6 | TBP: Why is "Holding Frame" seen as wrong/manipulative/abusive in your opinion?u/dundundundone basically covered it, but let me expand and add a little reducio ad absurdum. Why focus on Kanye West's narcissistic douchebaggery? He's a talented musician; why not just focus on his music. Why focus on that time Roman Polanski drugged and raped a 13-year old? He's a great director; why not focus on his films. Why focus on Richard Nixon's crimes and paranoid delusions? He did some good stuff, like establishing the EPA and opening up diplomatic relations with China. Good and bad … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/15 12:24 AM |
| 3 | Why is there no BP sub that discusses it's ideological strategy?"Blue Pill" is an RP term for everything that RP doesn't like. The only time it makes sense to call yourself Blue Pill is when directly opposing TRP, and even then I don't like the implications. BP is not some monolithic Other that is the exact opposite of RP. It includes everyone from angry sex-negative Andrea Dworkin types to free-loving hippies to consensual BDSM players. Where else could I turn? I personally like Dan Savage a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/15 11:46 PM |
| 5 | Obama considering assigning women selective service numbers, making women eligible for the draftAgreed. Bonus points for pointing out class privilege. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/15 11:30 PM |
| 13 | TBP: Why is "Holding Frame" seen as wrong/manipulative/abusive in your opinion?Holding frame...means not being a doormat, having confidence in yourself. That's one of the things it means. A few other commonly used definitions on TRP: avoiding emotional vulnerability at all costs refusing to compromise not admitting fault, even when you're wrong If "holding frame" was restricted to the definition you gave, no one would have a problem with it. The other shit is what people hate on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/15 11:19 PM |
| 3 | [Question for women] What can I do to meet women?Exactly. More broadly, I'm asking the OP to put himself in the shoes of the girls he wants to be with and think about who he would want to date. I'm saying he should stop clinging to those parts of his self-image that women find unattractive and try to become the man that his ideal woman would realistically want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/15 11:06 PM |
| 6 | [Question for women] What can I do to meet women?Not a woman, so I'm replying to a post I agree with instead of posting a top-level comment. I saw a pretty girl, and I approached and said hi. Why didn't you approach an ugly girl? If you're going to pursue pretty girls, don't be surprised when they go for pretty guys. I don't want to have to change who I am. Why not? Are you a perfect person? Of course you aren't. By all means, accept yourself and your imperfections. Just don't use that as an excuse to dodge criticism or avoid confronting your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/15 09:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV: TBP's Are Too EmotionalAnger is an emotion too, dude. TRP is pretty much a blast furnace full of anger that will singe your eyebrows off if you get within 15 feet of it. Point is, everyone has strong emotions about sex and relationships. That's OK! What matters is your actions, and the effects they have on the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/15 08:21 AM |
| 1 | After seeing what's happening to my relationship, RedPill makes a lot of sense. How would you approach my situation?This is so much worse than useless, and it really sets off my troll-dar. Feel-good bullshit like this is what drives men to TRP. OP, wanting to feel wanted is not an insecurity or something you need to get past, it's a basic fact of human nature. Couples counseling might help, but only if you can find a sex-positive counselor, and only if your GF agrees that an active and fulfilling sex life is the goal you're working toward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/15 07:59 AM |
| 1 | After seeing what's happening to my relationship, RedPill makes a lot of sense. How would you approach my situation?Ugh, I've been with a depressed girl and it really sucks. You want to be good to her but her depression keeps her from being good to you, so you end up justifiably resentful. That said, I think it's worth one last try to save this. Here's what I would tell her if I were you: "You said sex is no longer a priority for you, but it is for me. I need to feel sexually desired to be happy in a relationship. I love you and I want to have mind-blowing sex with you, not with just anyone. I want to stay in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/15 07:38 AM |
| 1 | How common do you think it is for young men to ascribe negative traits onto attractive women such as manipulative, predatory, sociopathic, controlling, abusive, dangerous etc. in order to compartmentalise and rationalise insecurities, fears of rejection and intimacy etc.?Very common among younger men, but it tends to fade with time. Most guys in my high school had at least a little bit of this attitude. I've gone a short way down this road myself. Then I made friends with a skinny blonde sorority girl who was really nice and also quite smart. Myth busted! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 09:31 PM |
| 16 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsBull. Shit. I have a penis attached to my body. It gets hard for all kinds of wacky reasons that I have no conscious control over. I have no doubt that if an even slightly attractive woman was trying to get me hard, I would get hard, regardless of whether I wanted sex or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 06:27 PM |
| 4 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsI think most men are taught from an early age to respect women's boundaries, and most men learn those lessons. Many women aren't taught to respect men's boundaries because it's assumed that men are always mentally and physically strong enough to defend themselves against women. This is bullshit, of course. Men can get incapacitated drunk just like women, and women can wield social power and psychological manipulation just as well as men can. Rape IRL is hardly ever a straightforward case of bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 06:17 PM |
| 5 | Does Casual Sex Make People Happy?Ludacris disagrees with you. "Most of us [nubians] is hoes too" --Ludacris | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/15 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4B: Would you accept the "betabucks" role in a relationship?Assuming your description of her is accurate, this lady sounds like a complete head-case. Let's count the red flags! Excessive concern with mens' income. Begins seeing a new guy before breaking up with the old guy. Backasswards view of sex and commitment. If you like someone more, you should have sex with them sooner and more often, not make them wait six months. If you still haven't gotten past the idea that women give sex and men take sex by age 30, you probably never will. Now, on to your que… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/15 02:42 AM |
| 8 | Am I part of a Silent Majority?A mountain of skulls. DUH. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/15 01:28 AM |
| 19 | Am I part of a Silent Majority?It's pretty cool how you just assumed without evidence that the OP isn't successful with women. Are you trying to neg him so he doesn't leave you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/15 06:39 PM |
| 8 | Am I part of a Silent Majority?In a word, yes. It's easy to forget what an extreme fringe group TRP is if it forms a large part of your information diet. They take a few accurate observations and put a uniquely bitter and misanthropic twist on them. Please consider leaving TRP before you become bitter and misanthropic as well. All of the good parts of TRP you mentioned are things that the wider society (and most of TBP) agrees with them on. The only unique thing that TRP adds is the misanthropy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/15 06:36 PM |
| 3 | All Pills: What are some "lies" you were legitimately told about the world growing up and by whom? Be specific.I was going to post basically this. For the longest time I had this mental concept where life was like an RPG and everyone got an equal number of points to distribute between strength, wisdom, charisma, etc. For being one of the "smart kids" I thought some pretty dumb shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 08:01 AM |
| 11 | If black women are so undesirable, then why am I here, why do I exist?I went black and have yet to go back, so my opinion probably won't be much help to you. I keep reading all the time how I will never amount up to anything because I'm not white and a woman and I feel like my life just doesn't have any purpose at all. Always remember that the people saying these things generally have a vested interest in having you believe them. Go ahead and be an Angry Black Woman; they deserve your anger. Then remember that the best revenge is living well, let go of your anger,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 07:00 AM |
| 4 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.Why is it not okay for us to slut-shame, but perfectly fine for you to virgin-shame? Short answer: It's not. Long answer: Being a virgin is nothing to be ashamed of, but low social status and bad relationships tend to turn people bitter and twisted. I can easily see how I could have gotten into a downward spiral of cynicism during my days as a high schooler who couldn't get laid or when my first girlfriend treated me poorly. Fortunately, I always had plenty of female friends and positive male ro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 06:20 AM |
| 1 | Do you consider giving birth to be one of the "greatest powers a human can possess"?Ghengis Khan Are you serious? Homeboy raped his way through Asia and much of Europe with thousands of his closest bros. Regarding your question: I took issue with your question-begging assumption that only women are capable of evil behavior. In order to refute this assumption I gave an example of how men can also be repugnant asshats. Does that clear things up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 04:30 AM |
| 0 | If women are wrong for only finding 20% of men attractive, then why is it "just nature" for men to only find 20% (or less) of women attractive?Ah yes, the madonna/whore complex. Also known as Alpha Fucks/Beta Bux when women do it to men. Unfortunately it's really common with both sexes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Do you consider giving birth to be one of the "greatest powers a human can possess"?He had a thing for women who had been raised in unhealthy environments and were frankly kind of damaged and easy to manipulate. I believe he and his GF were around 25 the second time this happened, so not in high school. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 06:11 AM |
| 1 | As an Indian dude am I supposed to accept second place?What have Indian girls told you they liked about white guys? Just the skin color? I'll grant that people can be shallow but that's just too ridiculous to believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 02:54 AM |
| 0 | Do you consider giving birth to be one of the "greatest powers a human can possess"?Not after the baby's born. I'm not speculating - I know a guy from my high school who's done this with two different women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 02:48 AM |
| 0 | Since capitalism is blind and both sexes are equal, then why is there a need for feminism in the workforce?Sorry, replace "white people" with "WASPs". The story of how American Jews eventually got to be considered white is really interesting but very off topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 06:03 AM |
| 9 | Do you consider giving birth to be one of the "greatest powers a human can possess"?Ethics 101 with u/throwinout Evil: Paternity fraud Not Evil: Deliberately getting a girl pregnant and then skipping town, leading to a child being raised with a chronic shortage of resources The second one also sounds pretty evil to me, man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 05:55 AM |
| 1 | Girl game? The red pill for women."Girls will be girls" is like a slightly less shitty version of "boys will be boys". It doesn't excuse outright violence and recklessness, just certain limited types of manipulation and dishonesty. Both are bullshit and society needs to stop putting up with them though. The solution is to demand that (some) women quit their shit, not to stoop to their level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 05:37 AM |
| 3 | Since capitalism is blind and both sexes are equal, then why is there a need for feminism in the workforce?How could #3 be right? I doubt you believe it yourself, unless you honestly think that Asians and Jews are superior to white people... EDIT: Here's Robert Heinlein, hardly a bleeding heart liberal, explaining how capitalism can lead to racially unjust outcomes even if none of the participants in a transaction are racist: https://medium.com/@delong/weekend-reading-robert-a-heinlein-letter-for-f-m-busby-on-freedom-and-race-relations-127e20c16016 Do you honestly believe capitalism, as practiced in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 05:24 AM |
| 0 | As an Indian dude am I supposed to accept second place?I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you haven't fucked any non-Indian girls. If you have, you should get off your high horse and realize that you're judging and rejecting women for doing exactly the same thing you did. Now, with that out of the way: You have a deep personal commitment to the traditional values you were raised with and there's nothing wrong with wanting to marry a woman who feels the same way. Based on what I've seen with Indian friends and acquaintances, yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 05:10 AM |
| 1 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillI don't doubt that TBP has committed, or even obsessed, followers. I'm talking about why a casual feminist might not give enough of a shit and using myself as an example. I don't claim to speak for TBP, only myself. I don't know how many others are like me but I doubt I'm the only one. Also, isn't that list generated and maintained automatically by a script? I honestly don't know, I just assumed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 11:37 PM |
| 1 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillFor what it's worth, I'm a feminist and I mostly agree with you for the first several posts - before things got out of hand and nobody was listening to each other. Maybe work on using more periods in the future though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 11:24 PM |
| 1 | "Purple Pill Debate" is overwhelmingly red pillMaybe members of TRP care a lot more about TRP than everyone else and are a lot more willing to spend time talking about it? There's an asymmetry at work where TRP is a complete ideology with devoted followers and TBP is just whoever happens to think TRP sucks. I personally stopped posting almost as soon as I started because I found myself feeling obligated to respond to people and it wasn't adding anything to my life. I didn't want to let them have the last word, because it would create the per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 11:01 PM |
| 1 | This "no pill" thing is really getting out of hand.I came to post exactly this. It really irks me when people name themselves in such a way as to beg the question and define themselves as right. See also, "Objectivism" and "Scientology". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 10:27 PM |
| 3 | Proof that most men of any given race generally prefer women who don't date outside their respective raceAh yes, the "racism isn't racism if it's correct" argument. Look, I actually believe that it's sometimes permissible to judge people by the groups they belong to, including race. But christ man, have the fucking balls to own what you're doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 04:24 PM |
| 5 | Why is it "wrong" to manipulate people?Nothing wrong with asking the question. I'm referring to the fact that you apparently didn't already know why manipulation was widely agreed to be bad thing. When I have to explain the golden rule to grown-ass men it makes me wonder what the fuck is wrong with them. Put yourself in my shoes bro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 04:08 PM |
| 4 | Why is it "wrong" to manipulate people?Of course there are times when naively following the golden rule doesn't make sense. In a BDSM relationship the master and the slave want to be treated very differently by each other. Entire philosophies have been built around exploring the nuances and resolving apparent contradictions in the golden rule. However, the core of the golden rule is the notion that other people are fully real and any coherent ethical system needs to assign equal weight to everyone's shit. To do otherwise is solipsism… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 04:03 PM |
| 5 | Why is it "wrong" to manipulate people?At best, it betrays a lack of understanding of the most universally agreed upon moral and ethical principle in the history of humanity--Something that most people understand on some level by the end of kindergarten. At worst, you've considered and rejected the possibility that other people are worth caring about at all, except as a means to achieve your own ends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 03:36 PM |
| 6 | Proof that most men of any given race generally prefer women who don't date outside their respective raceIs there another equally concise way to describe someone assuming that a mother is unmarried for no other reason than that her son is black? I suppose "prejudiced" or "bigoted" would work pretty well too, would you prefer those? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 06:20 AM |
| 17 | Why is it "wrong" to manipulate people?IDK, the golden rule? Seriously, the golden rule has been pretty widely agreed on across a very wide variety of cultures, classes, and time periods, and not manipulating people is a very straightforward application of that. If you want to get all evo-psych about it, there's good reason to believe that "tit for tat" behavior is evolved. Not to be flippant or anything but shit like this is why people think TRP is full of assholes. EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 04:55 AM |
| 8 | Proof that most men of any given race generally prefer women who don't date outside their respective raceProof that [lots of people are racist] Yeah, I don't think most red or blue pillers really dispute that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 04:50 AM |
| 3 | Does brutal honesty not work for people in their relationships ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g3tQaqizh0 Protip: George Costanza is not supposed to be a role model. Competing for "hand" is a fool's game; the only way to win is to stay within the limits of fairness when you have the upper hand and demand the same treatment when you are at a disadvantage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 04:29 AM |
| 4 | Does brutal honesty not work for people in their relationships ?I thought the word "manipulation" had such negative connotations that using it was a dead give away of my opinion. Why yes, I am new here, why do you ask? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 04:12 AM |
| 7 | Does brutal honesty not work for people in their relationships ?They don't. The model of mutual honesty and good faith is absolutely the one I support, but it means only getting your way about half the time. If people can't accept that, honesty will be of no use to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 11:24 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Does the "dread game" work according to your personal experiences ?"Dread game", like many terms of art in the Manosphere, has two definitions (at least). First, you have a fairly innocuous, common-sense position that a lot of people can agree with. Then, you have a much more controversial position that many if not most will distance themselves from if asked about it. Like so: Dread game [dred geym] 1. The practice of maintaining one's sexual desirability and self-respect while partnered, e.g. by maintaining an active social life and refusing to put up with man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 11:07 PM |
| 18 | Does brutal honesty not work for people in their relationships ?Honesty only works if you are acting in good faith and you have a partner who is also acting in good faith. Even then you have to temper your honesty with a huge dose of tact and diplomacy. If you're trying to get the upper hand and have everything your way in your relationship, honesty won't work. Your partner will not take the deal you're offering them because it's a bad deal, so you have to obscure your actual goals and use manipulation. Likewise, honesty does you no good if your partner is t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 09:23 PM |
| 3 | Blue pills/feminists verify just how correct Red pill values areUmmm, yeah. If I am pissed off and trying to insult someone, I do so based on what I think will hurt them the most. I echo their values in my insults. Blue Pill thinks TRP is full of insecure and fearful men who require female attention, money, status, power, and whatever else to prop up their egos. From a short-term tactical standpoint it makes sense to adopt Red Pill values when going on the offensive, in order to do more damage by "hitting them where it hurts". The OP does a great job of expl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 09:06 PM |
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