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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 11:00 PM
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Just curious about your hypothetical plan: What would happen if you were to break up? Would you share custody?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:35 PM
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Not "equal 100% of the time," but each of us makes sure the other is comfortable with each other's actions and decisions as we make them. There hasn't been any "lapse" of any relationship aspect yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:31 PM
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My girlfriend and I are near the same height (she's maybe one inch shorter), and about the same weight. She's still amazingly beautiful to me, and she likes me just fine ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 09:43 PM
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That's a good point. I'll have to think about that. Though, my earliest inclination says that it's men looking for a heavy dose of confirmation bias after being scorned badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 06:49 AM
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(In my own Kelly from the Office Voice) "First of all, how dare you!" As to the rest of your questions: No, this isn't the first woman I've been able to convince to stay with me. She's awesome and were amazing together (muh oneitis). Secondly: I've got noting to complain about there. So, if there's something you want to ask me that is a challenge to my views, please go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 06:46 AM
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I wouldn't characterize it that way. Neither of us really make "advances" on eachother, we just sort of constantly flirt with eachother and then sometimes one thing leads to another. I can just tell that sometimes, especially when we both wake up, she'd want to do it (it's mostly in her eyes), and at that point I'm not usually up for it. So, nothing too big of an issue. As for her blanketed "behavior." If I saw something I couldn't get along with I would have considered leaving, and that's purel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 06:41 AM
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Well first off, feminism helped me to understand that people are just people. Try want irrational things, generally are self centered, and will get away with what they can while they can. Now, if you're asking for a way to get her to blow him, I can't help. But, if you're asking me to find a way to get over it faster, understanding that people are people is what I use every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 06:37 AM
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I suppose not. But, you can see where I'm going here. "TRP" is more a set of ideas then a group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 04:16 AM
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I suppose I'll have to delve into the "truthiness" of TRP now with this response. I honestly haven't seen TRP's sexual strategies as bein universal at all. If you don't mind, would you point me towards a "PC" source on these strategies?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 04:05 AM
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Outside of the "truth" of what you're discussing (I know you think that TRP is evidently and absolutely true, but I don't want to flirt into a discussion of that) What TRP advice am I missing out on for my LTR that can't also be solved by the philosophies I already subscribe to? I know you think that AWALT, but if that nature never is apparent or in any way destructive, what am I to take away from it that would improve my life? And lastly, and most contentiously, I've never abided by any of TRP'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 04:02 AM
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Well, seeing as the assumptions made by TRP are what is most discussed on this sub, isn't the assumptions made the most defining feature of TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 03:46 AM
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Like a lot of people, I've also had bad experiences with people. Both of my gender and of people not like myself. For me, feminism helped me to best understand and empathize with people. Beyond that though, should all men know about TRP? Or, is it really only for those who have specific issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 03:44 AM
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So, what would be the TRP stance/advice on this issue then? I mean, she has other warning signals, and other good signs that she will be a good partner. How does TRP propose I balance these qualities? And lastly, TRP of all places would suggest that a woman wanting to have sex with you TOO MUCH would be an issue? What drive SHOULD a woman have compared to her man (in accordance with TRP ideas)?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 03:41 AM
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Well, under your idea of TRP, a lot of the content there (and especially a lot of the topics on the table here at PPD concerning TRP) would be off topic. If you had your way, would TRP only ever be giving direct advice about situations and circumstances?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 03:34 AM
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So, is TRP only for men having issues in their lives? I ask this, because a lot of what TRP discusses involves the "inherent nature of women," and that you WILL be dealing with that nature? Is anything other than prescriptive remedies relevant to TRP, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 03:29 AM
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I see. Well, outside of whether or not TRP "truths" are as fundamentally provable as lifting weights to gaining muscle, isn't there an inherent value to being "unplugged" under TRP's Philosohpy? Considering TRP would never encourage any man to stay "plugged in," wouldn't that mean that every man is encouraged to be "unplugged?" Or, is TRP only for men who are struggling?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 03:22 AM
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Well, I lift weights. I'm not in spectacular shape by any means, but I understand that exercise can lead to physical results. I don't consider lifting to be under TRP's perview necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 03:11 AM
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Honesty, even understanding the value of a self-deterministic attitude, I really have a hard time finding value on TRP. You can find motivational forums of all kinds that are way more productive and way less toxic, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 03:06 AM
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I need to see if/where I am hurting myself, according to RP Ideas. TRP is supposedly for the improvement of men, for men, to make their lives better. Is that not the purpose of TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 03:02 AM
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Well, starting from the assumption that, of course, no relationships are perfect and that there are always minor things that both sides deal with, I can honestly say this relationship is by far the best I've ever been in. And honestly, I link it to my pro-feminist sentiments, and what they've opened my eyes up to with regards to relating to people. But to answer your two prong: Sexually- The biggest issue at the moment (seriously) is that I have a hard time keeping up with how much she wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 02:56 AM
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I'm not trolling. I am sorry that it appears that I am. I'll simplify my question to it's base form: What should the spouse who worked to clean and cook around the house be asked to supply in divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 08:04 PM
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I understand that you're frustrated with my answers, but we're talking about the post-divorce splitting and allocating of assets. Money is earned. It can be transferred from accounts to the government to different accounts. Domestic labor certainly has great social value, but what would you suppose we do in the case of divorce to rectify that loss of value?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 07:56 PM
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Yes, but we are talking about the division of assets here. What VALUE does domestic labor PRODUCE? What could possibly rendered as leverage here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 07:48 PM
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Volunteer work does not get evaluated for the labor it produces. How would you suppose we economically value the effort of domestic labor for the equitable division of assets?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 06:19 PM
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I must have missed this response. The societal reasons we enacted alimony, child support, and garnishment of wages are complex, but I would simplify it to following: Partners leaving a marriage, assuming a no-fault state, should have division of assets as to make the prospect of separation no more unattractive to the lesser party then it needs to be. This corrects for imbalances in the predisposition of the old system= the more valuable partner retains control of all assets and children in the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 06:18 PM
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(Sorry, was away but now I'm back) One what line of what contract was that? Must've missed it. The debate is not about the present state, but what it should be. We aren't talking the IS here, the discussion is SHOULD BE. Well, I think the current system in place is fine, with certain court biases towards gender norms only coming in the way. The system is devised to make the splitting up of a marriage something that should not retain bias towards any party. So, what is an ex-husband entitled to? …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 06:14 PM
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I saw upthread you said rape cannot exist between spouses, so I think this is where we should probably end things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 06:08 PM
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A husband does have the right to make decisions about their wive's bodies. For example they can make medical decisions for them when they are incapacitated. Yes, he gets those rights SECOND to his wive's body autonomy. That is one of the rights of being married. But one's own rights trump their partner's. A marriage shouldn't be a joining of assets. It just be a legal joining for other reasons. What would those reasons be? Because, as I see it, all would involve the combining of and deferment of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 01:33 AM
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Taxes are money demanded for national and social services to be delivered to the people. As a part of marriage, you agreed to social assistance to your spouse upon separation if upon such separation there is a distinct distance between the earning potential of the now legally separated couple. That is the nature of marriage, a life-long commitment that when severed renders proper allocation of assets (potential or otherwise).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 01:12 AM
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Well, even when you are legally tied to another person in assets, it does not make one able to unilaterally make decisions about their physical body. To use an outlandish example: Husbands have no say in if their wives have abortions, as that is an issue of bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 12:52 AM
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WHY ARE WE ARGUING /s I guess I just interpreted your original statement. Domestic labor has a lot of societal, emotional, and relationship value. It just doesn't have a number value that you can attach to it (in the legal sense).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 10:55 PM
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Okay, I'm so sorry, I think we've had a failure to communicate. You're okay with Alimony and splitting of assets? Because that's what I'm gathering here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 10:45 PM
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1) So, what could POSSIBLY be considered rape under this scenario. I mean, entirety of body only can mean one thing. 2) Fair enough. And honestly, even just speaking hypothetical statements in the Socratic sense can get overwhelming if you're imagining abuse. I've known abused people, so I sympathize strongly with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 10:23 PM
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Ah, I see now. Well, I suppose I will take your word that you find that implication morally objectable. I'll now ask you, under the presumption that you find the marriage contract outdated, a question. What is marriage, if not a union of two legal entities into one?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 09:50 PM
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I'm confused by why what your statement means. What objects can be distributed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 09:23 PM
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No, it's something that could easily be revoked. I don't mean to engage in ad hoc attack here, but do you want to end marital rape? Sure, it's not, but some might argue that it does give you some access. Sure, that's why annulments exist, but it never gives you access at any given time or place specifically. I take issue more that marriage entitles you to my property. But just to answer the question, I'd say that's up for debate. In marriage, there exists very little legal "my property," it is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 09:22 PM
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Yes, and that is what divorce is doing currently. But what assets does the Domestic partner create that can be distributed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:37 PM
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The fact is that the law USED to be like that, so your argument that the legal framework doesn't support it just doesn't work. Yes, and then we recognized marital rape. That is a legal concept that makes what you are talking about impossible. I'm looking over the post where we started to disagree: Of course, but if you both agree to PIV, she takes the money, then you aren't raping her by having PIV are you? Some might say a similar thing happens in marriage. Which is entirely not the case. Marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:33 PM
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I would not want to get into a moral argument, because we are likely so far apart as to be completely at odds with one another's ideologies. But, speaking in a legal framework: We're talking about the legal system of the United States of America, which is a modern nation state which has complex legal and taxation systems. Simply put, there is an existing legal structure for the collection of income for many civil purposes. Under this system, we have found it necessary to take the nature of spous…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:29 PM
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I mean, if that's the way you want to characterize the nature of the legal protection for children and spouses in this country: then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:18 PM
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Well, then I guess to you it would be theft then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:16 PM
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Can you not see where we are talking past each other? The rules of entitlements in law are very different from those of theft. The length and description of the rules on thievery pale in comparison to those on the subject of inheritance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:11 PM
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Not unless you believe taxes are theft.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:09 PM
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What if I don't agree to a marriage under those terms? You can't really, unless you get a prenup... What if I create an agreement with different terms (commonly referred to as a pre-nuptial agreement)? Aha! Well, you can do that, but the legal system of this country recognizes the signing of contracts under false pretenses or different circumstances unforeseen, duress, and without legal council to void such agreements. So, you need to account for those things in such an agreement. Occasionally t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:09 PM
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Yes, but we're not talking about rape, we're talking about a system of legal ENTITLEMENT to sex. You're talking about negative rights (the right to not be raped), where as this is about positive rights (the right to sex with your spouse, and the duty to perform so after divorce).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:04 PM
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We're starting a tangent here, but: How would that work? Would you need to provide documentation of your sexual need? Would sex workers be compelled by power of court to sleep with specific men? (Which to my knowledge, is completely illegal in all territories with legitimate legalized prostitution).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:02 PM
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Sure, but money is taxed and dealt with the government all of the time (whether you agree with it or not). Sex has been policed poorly by the government, as only to restrict acts in a more "puritan manner." Heck, sodomy is still illegal in many states in the US. Would the state then get a say into the sexual lives of ALL married spouses, as they are legally entitled (or legally forbidden perhaps) to certain sexual acts?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:59 PM
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Yes, but what would this legal process see fit to make available? Would it be a blank check, or would there be an existent list?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:54 PM
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But under this scenario, both are entitled to the assets. If the man was making the money AND had a lower sex drive, would he be forced to provide both?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:53 PM
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I'm not sure that they could possibly linked, but I suppose there is a certain (demented and unworkable) justice to that idea. EDIT: Another idea popped in my head. Would a spouse be compelled to both provide financially AND sexually if they were and income earner with a low sex drive in divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:51 PM
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Yes. If you agreed to marriage EDIT:(such as one with complete financial autonomy for one party) then you likely agreed to those terms. Those are the terms that I understand marriage to be under.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:50 PM
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They still could, provided that the actions that happened happened without consent. If you paid a prostitute for PIV and then proceeded to penetrate her anally, then that would be rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:48 PM
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I understand then that women and men would no be treated as equal under the law in this scenario then? It's okay (I mean, not really, but I can't do anything about it) if you think that is the proper way, I was just asking out of curiosity into your ideal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:25 PM
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1) How would the proceedings happen if the man was entitled to sex with his ex-wife? Was he only entitled to certain acts, or is it of the nature of the acts? How could rape exist in the scenario of entitled sex? 2) Could she not then sue for him not living up to his "husbandly duties?" How could you prove inability to have sex to a legal standard? (I'll keep going, but I must warn you this is making me feel gross)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:23 PM
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What assets though? Both are entitled to the marital gains of the partnership. What gains can be monetarily extracted from domestic labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:20 PM
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I think you're being relatively reasonable in your first two responses, but I'll tackle the third: If depends what unwomanly behavior we are talking about. Walking in the steers wearing exposed clothing? The husband should be allowed to physically hit her if he deems it appropriate. Committing adultery? Punishable by death. Would the corollary position from man to woman also follow? Would this be based in the legal frame of society, or the more vigilante style of justice?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:19 PM
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No. To my understanding, in marriage you become one "legal entity," so you (as a couple) are producing all of the products of your union. "Mr. and Mrs. Blank earn $$$, clean their home, and have children." Therefore, they are both entitled to equitable splitting of their assets. Volunteer labor is not an asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:16 PM
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(Bear in mind that my personal politics are completely at odds with this whole scenario, given I think consent that is coerced is rape.) I understand that in this highly improbable situation she would be obligated to have sex (akin to a model of prostitution), but that isn't answering the scenario: What would be her legal recourse if raped? Prostitutes certainly can be raped. How would the court deal with unreasonable violence and sexual trauma? Also, would this entitle the wife to sex as well? …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:13 PM
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Well no, of course on the labor market it has value. In the context of a relationship though, it is more akin to volunteer work. How would that value be evaluated monetarily?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:06 PM
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How would you suppose this be enforced? Should rape possibly occur under these conditions, how would it be dealt with?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:04 PM
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Yes with a corollary. Divorce should be allowed it the wife is unable to produce a child or was not a virgin upon marriage. Would there be any circumstances under which a woman could divorce a man in the society/culture you're creating? Yes, but in that case, the man should be working harder (possibly 2 jobs) and the wife should not neglect her homely duties. The ends need to end up meeting somehow. Would it not be less exhausting for both partners if they both worked and both performed domestic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:02 PM
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Do you mean this a seriously or as a sarcastic idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 06:56 PM
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No. It's basically the extension of the concept that marriage makes you "one." Your are entitled to reap the rewards that the marriage has brought to you both. Domestic labor performed by a spouse has no economic value, and thus cannot be transferred upon divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 06:55 PM
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No. I'm very happy in the relationship I have now, which exists in ways apart from the vast majority of RP ideas. Perhaps, but it would involve such picking and choosing that it wouldn't be worth it to go for advice there (IMO). And certainly, RPW exist, I know a big one on facebook, but certainly a lot of women would never be comfortable in that relationship dynamic. I don't think its the only way to be happy, but I think the general themes presented in TBP are more in line with what makes most…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 01:33 AM
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Because RedPill methods would not only not have lead to any sort of success in my dating life (in fact, the more pro-feminist I've gotten, the better I've been able to connect with and get along with women), Red Pill actively makes me insecure in my own relationship. The things they would say are true about heterosexual relationships are so untrue in my case that RedPill ideas only make me think that I could possibly be living in a delusion, which I most certainly am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 08:44 PM
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Question for all ITT: Based on what I'm reading, I don't know what the consensus is on this topic. If the draft must exist, should women be drafted?
/r/MensRights08/04/15 05:05 PM
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I guess I, as someone who identifies as a feminist, would like to ask you about your thoughts on: Do you agree with TRP's Slut Shaming? Do you agree with feminist theories of Rape Culture or Patriarchy? Do you believe men and women are/should be equal? What I'm trying to broadly ask is "why is feminism for you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:56 AM
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Your post is very nice, and it goes to show how that relationship dynamic can work, and that is wonderful for you. (sincerely, I mean this) But it still doesn't explain why RPW is the way it is. Why does RPW seem to focus on the shortcomings of women, rather than what they are good at? I would expect you guys to be singing the praises of femininity and the graces of women, not just using those qualities to find a man. It just seems like TRP gives men options and advice how to be the best man you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 06:37 PM
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Do you believe that housewives AREN'T living up to their full potential? I think that's false. I'm beat by the end of the day and satisfied with my efforts. My life is fulfilling and complete because I AM living up to my full potential - being a rock for my family and helping us towards our goals. Absolutely not, and I apologize if I was mis-characterizing my opinion on housewives. The impression that I get from RPW stands though. (note: these are not my views, but more how RPW would be IF it we…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 06:31 PM
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If I was to say what about RPW most bothers me, it is the inconsistency on men and women being "complementary," and how they don't seem to embrace it. RPW doesn't really present any concept of feminine life outside of finding a "captain" and becoming a wife. To contrast, TRP gives men a variety of ways in which they think men can/should behave to live fulfilling lives. The way they characterize "complementary" is less like the that of an equal partnership and more like that of a Bike (man) and T…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 04:34 AM
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Absolutely I have! But to me it doesn't represent any part of the forward-going political feminism I see in my life.
/r/MensRights15/10/14 12:13 AM
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Make a philosophy or concept, as per my last sentence, okay! Please understand that my perspective is one that would be about equality, not necessarily Men's Rights Specifically. I would have an MRA Movement based on valuing both sexes for their work. Making men more respected in the field of parenting/care-giving and such, and have women be the same in business and labor fields. It would be based on destroying male stereotypes (as well as female ones) about being aggressive and always wanting s…
/r/MensRights15/10/14 12:11 AM
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I'll respond to the portion of you're comment that I would most like explanation on. You said MRA is oppos(ed) to 'affirmative action.' Is that really the case, and what would you have in place of it to correct imbalances of likely outcomes? (ie: Getting more women in construction and getting more men in nursing)
/r/MensRights14/10/14 11:57 PM
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Interesting response. I guess, if I could get your say on it since I agreed with you already in the thread: What female privileges should we (as a society) be trying to give up? What female privileges should we (as a society) be trying to share? Because, for me, MRA responses to explaining and dealing with the concept of "female privilege" is where y'all lose me most times.
/r/MensRights14/10/14 11:54 PM
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No offense to any other posters in this topic, but I agree with you most thus far! As for your last paragraph, I would 110% be behind a movement to get more male teachers and nurses.
/r/MensRights14/10/14 11:38 PM
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Thanks! Your middle paragraph is the phenomenon that I think best befits my questioning. As for your last sentence: I am aware that some and maybe even a buch of feminist literature seems like that, but the overarching ideas still strike a chord with me.
/r/MensRights14/10/14 10:27 PM
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I'll take a look at that link and think about what it says there. It may surprise you to learn that we are not a monolith, but a group of individuals... I understand, that is the nature of all groups. But I have yet to see a narrative that is present that I can either reject or embrace from MRA. It all seems like a group of notions with little connection between. And I DO lurk here, that is why I made this post.
/r/MensRights14/10/14 10:25 PM
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They are both clunky terms, I'll admit that.
/r/MensRights14/10/14 10:22 PM
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I get that, and in practical life that is the best way to go. But in my mind MRA and Feminism are political, and as such you have to have some sort of over-riding narrative.
/r/MensRights14/10/14 10:21 PM
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Yeah, Modernism is a clunky kind of term, but it seemed like the best thing I could come up with. I guess what I am saying is that I like the direction that "Feminist Leaning" politics is going currently: promoting women and minorities in fields where there is little presence; teaching about consent; trying to do away with gender stereotypes; etc... Honestly, I understand that Feminism is academic in certain contexts, but personally I align under political feminism more than anything. I guess th…
/r/MensRights14/10/14 10:20 PM
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Your Empathizing Quotient is 37. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have an average ability for understanding how other people feel and responding appropriately. You know how to treat people with care and sensitivity". Your Systemizing Quotient is 22. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have a lower than average ability for analysing and exploring a system". An interesting quiz if nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 03:52 AM
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I think " Dread Game" is certainly a high-risk set of strategies, essentially you can't keep threatening to end the relationship without it eventually biting you in the ass. That is not that all of a small reason to think TRP shouldn't be endorsing it. But, as for other objections: Us over at the TBP believe that people in good relationships can resolve and compromise in constructive ways. This is provided that they are not unreasonable requests or irrational ideas. We see emotional coercion as …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/14 04:18 AM
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Probably, but I don't think that is a bad thing. Ideally, people would be able to be as masculine and feminine as they want. Overall, I think the masculine/feminine balance is the same as before, as women have been taking on what were once considered more masculine roles in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 02:51 AM
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Absolutely! Gang culture has toxic masculinity. Societal pressure to repress emotions is toxic masculinity. Having "maleness" be quantifiable and non-adherence be punished is toxic masculinity. Toxic Femininity hasn't been written about, but it could conceivably exist or come to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 02:41 AM
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Physically Yes, just like any other body or hormonal variance. Doesn't mean I treat them any different. Mentally Sure, the same way a Lawyer and a Truck Driver are different on average. But again, doesn't mean I treat either with more respect and/or authority automatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 12:05 AM
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Some RP men want LTR's, other men want plates or they want nothing to do with women at all. vs. Every RPW wants to establish/maintain a long-term relationship with a good man. I'm not sure I understand why RP Women all want one thing while RP Men disagree on goals. Is it due to legal or societal problems?
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/14 10:34 PM
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Okay, I guess I get that TRP is kind of a "foundry" for creating Red Pill people. I thought that these two subs were more counterparts, and was curious as to why the rhetoric and tones of these environments are so disparate.
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/14 09:58 PM
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Which aspects of TRP are you referring to exactly? I suppose I am asking if when you read TRP comments and posts (if you do), do you see qualities that you want in your SO? *Edited "relationships" to "SO"
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/14 09:32 PM
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A) I have had 4 "Hookups" in the last 2 years. However, they all ended up being at least a month long FWB relationships. B) Seemingly as attractive as I. I'm 22, have and average body but have other physically and mentally attractive traits. C) If I was to describe my first interaction with each of them under some common threads, it would be: 1- Either introduced myself because a friend brought them to a gathering, or picked up talking to them because were already acquaintances. 2- Talk with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 07:23 PM
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I'm not trying to "ruin romance." I am just pointing out that recognizing that a woman wants to be treated like that is a not something I expect any inexperienced man to get, and certainly not something I would suggest (especially when first meeting them). Besides, there are different concepts of "romance" that are much more gentle and easy to interpret.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 04:09 PM
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"I never once asked for any verbal consent, enthusiastic or otherwise. I assumed consent because she was smiling and laughing and rubbing up against me. Do you think she was just scared? She was this tiny little thing." Consent can be non-verbal as well, verbal consent is better though. You didn't force her to do anything, and you read the signals correctly. Good job. I wouldn't recommend that "newbies" pull the grabbing her and making out with her in the elevator thing, but otherwise that all s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 12:28 AM
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If a woman I'm flirting with at a bar leans in and kisses me on the lips, without getting my enthusiastic verbal consent, is she a rapist, an abuser, or merely creepy? Rapist... obviously not. Abuser... you'd have to better understand why she did this behavior in the context of her other actions to say that. Creepy... is a feeling more than an accusation. Did you feel uncomfortable with the kiss? If yes then you could call it "creepy," if no you obviously wouldn't. However, if she wasn't flirtin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 11:41 PM
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