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Bay Area = bad for dating? Try living in a bumfuck rural area where there's a grand total of 7 single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 04:16 PM
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"You don't understand this because you're a man." I don't know how much more analogous you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:29 PM
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Okay, but that's a product of the social circles you live in. Do you deny that that attitude exists as a cultural phenomenon on the greater scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 07:59 PM
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Then you're either not paying attention or you dismiss it subconsciously. Ever hear the phrase "check your privilege"? If you expand that, what it's really saying is, "You don't understand what it's like to be in this position because you're not a _____." I seriously can't think of a more clear-cut case of condescendingly assuming someone doesn't know something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 07:49 PM
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Observing trends for scientific research is not what OP was talking about. He's complaining about not being able to "criticize women" without receiving backlash. Generalizations are bad in this type of scenario because they can give you a misleading impression that observing a small statistical discrepancy over a large population gives you any useful information on the individual level. It doesn't. Also, if you don't like sass, don't use it yourself. I'm not going to take you seriously if you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 02:24 PM
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It's adorable how they think labeling men as "childish" will shame them into having babies with bitchy, undesirable women. These articles show up all the time - where they talk about the "beautiful", single, mid-30s career woman who's "amazing in every way", but can't find a husband, and how it's men's fault. What a joke. Call me childish all you want, I'm fucking loving the single life in my late 20's with shittons of spare income and free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 05:53 PM
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Generalizations are bad mmmkay Seriously though, are you complaining that you can't make sweeping criticisms about half the world's population without receiving backlash?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 05:34 PM
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I'm not sure what to think of that article. I read over the first part and glanced through the rest, and there's absolutely nothing I can relate to or confirm in that. It's possible there's truth to it, but I'd need more time to think about, as it's a perspective I've never really considered before. Just at first glance it seems like an abstraction with no basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 04:16 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate a little more about the "male social matrix" you're talking about? I just think it's a fascinating part of human psychology how we can recognize that we struggle with something, consciously acknowledge that the struggle is due to our own shortcomings, yet still resist advice on ways to change to improve. Maybe it's some type of cognitive dissonance, where people are uncomfortable with the fact that they know they have to change, but really don't want…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 03:37 PM
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You can't really help them. They're immune to advice. Try saying something really basic that will help, like "Go out and buy some nicer shirts," and you'll be met with scorn and bitterness. They'll tell you that your advice is stupid and that there's no way it can actually help, and you'll never understand because they have a higher IQ than you. This isn't exclusive to Reddit incels, by the way. Lots of people really suck at taking advice. Pro-tip: if you're struggling with something, and someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 03:11 PM
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Agreed as well. I actually really enjoy paying for others. This whole thread is making me cynical and sad :(
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 06:42 PM
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In my opinion, if there's a problem caused by discrepancies in the legal system, we can and should use legal means to fix it. If there are problems caused by societal issues, then we should use societal means to fix them. But using the government to fix societal issues is very dangerous and bad territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:48 PM
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And if you can point to something tangible that is causing the discrepancy, I'll be on board to help fix it. If all you can do is point to some vague concept of societal pressures that can neither be proved nor disproved, what solutions can you really provide short of just giving women money and jobs for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:04 PM
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Are you saying that the net overall earnings of women in, say, the US, is less than the net overall earnings of men? Then yes, that is an accurate statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 05:43 PM
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we understand you better than you understand us. That comes from thousands of years of having to understand and cater to your needs, because you dominated us. We had to understand your sex drives, how you liked to have sex, how you liked your meals cooked, how not to make you angry, how you liked to be loved etc etc. Women of the past were also used to placating men, and developed non-direct ways of speech in order not to anger men with their real thoughts. This sounds suspiciously like feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 05:16 PM
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It's an entirely unfalsifiable claim at this point though. At first it was "women are paid less for the same work," until that was shown to be obvious bunk, so now the goalposts have shifted to this socialization argument. Now you can just sit there and smugly claim "ha, you're just denying reality," because based on the way the argument is now framed, there's just no way to disprove your hypothesis. Declaring unfalsifiable claims as scientifically true is just plain pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 05:06 PM
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Honest answer: the same reason you cry over the death of a friend or family member, but don't shed a tear over a suicide bombing in Syria that kills 100. We're genetically programmed to care far more about things and people that are close to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 04:25 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:55 PM
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I don't quite agree with this. The phrase "blunt honesty" implies a certain lack of tact or concern for the other's feelings, which I don't think is something inherently masculine. I would say, though, that men tend to be more concise. Less communication just for the sake of communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:38 PM
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OP? He said he's in he's in his early 40's. Who is this 50-something you're talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:36 PM
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You're comparing a dude in his 50's in an unknown location making 100k to a mid-20's guy making over 100k in the Bay Area as if that comparison had any meaning at all. Why even bring that up if you understand the massive difference between Bay Area costs and the rest of the country?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 10:48 PM
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Bay Area 100k is like 50k almost anywhere else in the country. Don't be ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 06:49 PM
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Cool, we're in agreement then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 07:50 PM
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for which he can sue her Sure, but this is kind of a cop-out non-answer. Do you think he would be in the right to do so? The university encouraged and essentially sponsored her with her campaign as well. Would you support him in a lawsuit against it as well? Say what you really think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:57 PM
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Didn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 11:17 PM
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In that case, is it so hard to understand why people have serious issues with modern feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 09:14 PM
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I agree, but if you're unhappy with the outcome of a legal trial, going on a vigilante campaign to ruin the recently exonerated defendant cannot be defended on any legal basis. It's defamation, pure and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:25 PM
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Serious question, what "feminist organizations" are not a joke these days? Because seriously, you're just reinforcing the stereotype that feminists just "no true Scotsman" everything that makes them look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:21 PM
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Attempting to keep the discussion on track and relevant has at least some value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 07:05 PM
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Not a helpful part.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 05:59 PM
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The core belief of the feminist movement is that "Women are disadvantaged, and it's society's fault." I find it unbelievably hilarious and ironic that this thread is full of women and/or self-proclaimed feminists claiming that men are the ones who externalize blame while women internalize it. This is just classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 05:21 PM
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This is just my experience. Your personal experience contributes nothing of value to the discussion. What's the point of even making this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 05:17 PM
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Your first sentence is accurate and is supported by science. The rest of your comment is speculative bullshit you pulled out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 05:14 PM
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A commitment is an obligation to try your best to make it work, is it not? Leaving because you feel like it doesn't lend itself well to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:49 PM
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Not really, but it's kind of apples/oranges. I don't look for the same things in an SO that I do in a friend. Don't care about religion, lifestyle, political beliefs, music preferences, blah blah. These all seem like really superficial traits that tell you very little about who the person really is on a deeper level, and that's what's important to me when looking for a connection. All I really want personality-wise is someone who is extremely gentle and nurturing, who's kind of a "yin to my yang…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:48 PM
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2/10, satire should at least make some attempt to be convincing and humorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:29 PM
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I answered your question of "Why?" If you have the mentality of "I'll leave whenever I want, as long as we're not married" you're not really committed are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:26 PM
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Because you're subjecting yourself to willful celibacy for god-knows-how-long until your SO feels "ready", and not everyone wants to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:21 PM
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Never. I need to know that I'm not wasting my time before committing. It's a part of a relationship I'm unwilling to compromise on, so any wishy-washy-ness on this one will have me checking out in a hurry. Wanna wait 5 or so dates before getting it on? No problem. Wanna wait arbitrary x number of months of being together before doing it? Find someone else, I don't have time for games.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:16 PM
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I was confined to echo chambers for a long time because I'm banned from every feminist subreddit, and I didn't know of anywhere I could actually have open debate until I found this place, so I'm pretty happy about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:05 PM
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Interesting that different dictionaries have such considerably different definitions for the same word. I always thought of "cater" to mean something along the lines of "going out of your way (i.e. more than necessary) to accommodate someone," but I suppose that may not be how other people use the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:03 PM
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Right, and you can tell the rest of the guys here pull mad pussy by how respectful they are to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:00 PM
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Agreed. I very much like the community here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 10:57 PM
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No. I wish there were more places like this around, where people with different points of view willingly came to have open debate. The thing that depresses me the most these days is the unwillingness of so many people to hear things they may disagree with or find uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 10:54 PM
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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/cater
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 10:47 PM
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That's not what the word "cater" means. cater to provide or supply what amuses, is desired, or gives pleasure, comfort, etc. (usually followed by to or for): It's about providing desire and comfort, not bare minimum needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 10:13 PM
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Overall, both have their advantages and disadvantages, and to try to make a determination over who has it "worse" overall is a pointless exercise in oppression olympics. I think it's fine if you have a political movement focused on the issues of one gender or the other, but to play these games of "stop talking about your issues because mine are more important" is harmful and unproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 07:29 PM
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Just like they did do children, cattle and slaves. Society catered to the needs of cattle and slaves? Are you sure you don't want to rethink this one a bit?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 07:24 PM
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How does being in charge translate to oppression by default?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 07:22 PM
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Feminists, on a topic where it's generally considered that men have it easier: "Come on, everybody knows men have it so much easier, it's not even worth a debate. Check your privilege, you don't know women's lived experience!" Feminists, on a topic where it's generally considered that women have it easier: "Hey stop comparing apples to oranges, there's actually nuance here..."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 07:19 PM
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Holding very strong opinions about issues to the extent where she gets emotional about it, but lacking the intellectual chops to support those opinions when challenged. I can respect someone who holds pretty much any opinion, provided she can a) stand up for and intelligently defend it, and b) will respect my difference of opinion provided I can also defend mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 02:01 PM
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Being insecure is not a mature or respectable state of being; thus, this behavior discourages insecurity and instead encourages positive male attributes such as toughness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 01:48 PM
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OP doesn't understand the part where men who are actually secure with themselves don't give a fuck about being shamed for their activities or interests that aren't considered "masculine".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:58 PM
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Ok, but how does that say anything about people who have an ID and a reason to carry it around? Your original comment said you lose respect for people who carry around an ID unless they do regular international travel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:53 PM
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What about at a bar? They don't check ID's there? There are lots of reasons one would carry an ID around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:32 PM
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If you're gonna be on the principal, at the very least don't get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:22 PM
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You distrust the intelligence of someone who carries their driver's license while driving?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:20 PM
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Part of what compounded the problem for me was that I was impeccable with spelling and grammar. Three-time spelling bee champion, and I had a reputation for even correcting my teachers on grammar from time to time. So they thought that those verbal skills translated to skillful reading and writing. To me, they're left-brain skills just like math.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:33 PM
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Sorry, you're right, I shouldn't have presumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:27 PM
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PP, not really. I always got in trouble in school for selecting "easy" books because teachers assumed that being good at math and science meant I was a good reader. I'm not. I can work my way through some easy reading, but with "classics", I just always find myself dozing off and re-reading the same page, unable to focus. Also, if I do read something, I enjoy nonfiction a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:20 PM
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but they can write C#, so they're superior. Yeah it's not as if the Mecca of the software industry is also one of the most liberal cities in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:16 PM
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I doubt the number of right-wingers you know is very large, so that's not saying very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:14 PM
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Do you think BP gives more dodgy answers than RP, or that they do it more often? And can you give any hard evidence to support that? Questions like that don't have a straightforward answer because they're loaded and inherently subjective to begin with. If you're asking a question about intellectual honesty, confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance are typically pretty important factors to consider, and if you're starting from a perspective of, "My side doesn't do this, only the people who disa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:12 PM
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Still don't buy it. I never claimed that a cafe was a place to meet people. I do, however, argue that it is a place to be around people. And if you desire to not be around other people, there are far more suitable options. I don't know why so many people in this thread struggle to understand this. It's a pretty straightforward argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:40 AM
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So might as well go to coffee shops then? What point are you trying to make here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:28 AM
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Ever heard of a library?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:19 AM
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"I don't understand why someone would do this," is not the same as, "You should not do this."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:26 PM
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Yeah I do the same thing when rejecting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:19 PM
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You said that people shouldn't leave the house if they don't want to be hit on. If you claim that you're not putting words in my mouth the surely you can point out when I said this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:16 PM
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Could just be culture difference then. I don't exactly frequent cafes, but literally the last time I was at one (a couple weeks ago), an older woman started talking to me while she was waiting for her coffee. She was slightly on the weird side, but far from unfriendly, and the overall interaction was pleasant and put a smile on my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:51 AM
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Uh, well if you look at it retrospectively, then yeah it's an easy decision, but that's ignoring the entire difficulty of working up the courage to ask someone out in the first place. I've rejected girls before. And guys, too, in fact. It's honestly really fucking easy. Just say, "Hey, I'm really touched you feel that way, but I don't share your feelings. You're still an important person to me though. Wanna grab lunch some time on me?" To pretend like this is harder than doing the asking is just…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:42 AM
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A single person? Out of 7 billion? Do you know what "perspective" is?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:30 AM
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While I would still argue that you can get most of these things without the possibility of public interaction, this is a better explanation than most I've heard yet. All-in-all, it does come down to atmosphere. But my next question would be: if it's as lovely as you say it is, how is it that someone talking to you can ruin the experience so easily? I mean, I'm in total agreement that spending time in cafes is lovely, but I embrace and enjoy it when people talk to me. It's part of the experience.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:15 AM
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Then can you explain the appeal of hanging out alone at a coffee shop as opposed to doing the same thing at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:59 AM
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Maybe don't put words in my mouth? I only said I don't understand the mentality of actively going out into public when you have no desire to interact with the public.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:32 AM
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Can confirm. Tried debating OP once or twice. Had more engaging discussions with a bowl of Jello.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:44 AM
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OP just brought "loaded question" to a whole new level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 05:35 AM
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From the link: MYTH: Saying women only earn 77 cents on the dollar is a huge exaggeration – the “real” pay gap is much smaller than that (if it even exists). REALITY: The size of the pay gap depends on how you measure it. The most common estimate is based on differences in annual earnings (currently about 23 cents difference per dollar). Another approach uses weekly earnings data (closer to an 18- or 19-cent difference). Analyzing the weekly figures can be more precise in certain ways, like acco…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:29 PM
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Maybe the haters reject you? Who made you in charge of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:24 PM
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Well, it's kind of tautological that if you deliberately ignore the substantial parts of a comment, then the parts that you do read will lack substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:23 PM
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If you don't have internet at home, then yes, that's one thing. Other than that, food can be taken to go, and you don't have to worry about anyone bothering you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:23 PM
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You can eat and drink and use the internet at home, and you have a 100% guarantee you'll be left alone (unless you share a room with someone). It's not weird to hang out at a cafe, but if you want to be left alone, and your choices are 1) be alone, and 2) not be alone, I find it extremely weird to choose the latter. If I go out to a cafe to work on something it's because I prefer being around people rather than feeling isolated. Along with that comes the possibility that people will talk to you.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:23 PM
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Ok then
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 08:19 PM
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Do you just no-true-Scotsman away all the feminists who say the things that make feminism look bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 08:19 PM
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But is it so hard to turn somebody down politely? Didn't you know? The true difficulty of the whole situation isn't working up the courage to approach someone and potentially face rejection, but rather having to politely reject someone who approached you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 08:07 PM
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"some social hints"? That's all, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 08:04 PM
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I will never understand deliberately getting up to go to a cafe to work on something alone and then getting upset when people socialize with you. Why go out if you want to be left alone? Why not stay home, or work somewhere more quiet or isolated? Cafes are a social setting by their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 07:57 PM
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That's true if you ignore the threads in which people (e.g. me) are actually debating you on this topic and supporting that accusation. Did you just forget about that or are you being dishonest again?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 07:54 PM
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He said he has a history of that, not that that was his intention in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 07:51 PM
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I told you, I can link you a whole bunch of posts on Twitter in support of her! Surely that's proof of "wide support".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 07:48 PM
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An accusation of dishonesty is not a personal attack. Grow a thicker skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 07:46 PM
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Reading the thread, it sounded like he wanted to talk to her because he was interested in what she was reading, not because he was hitting on her. Is this even a meaningful distinction to you? Is every guy who starts a conversation with a girl "hitting on her" by default?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 07:45 PM
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Julie Bindel said we should put men in camps, and I can pull up like five examples of people on Twitter who supported her!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 07:17 PM
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If you watch the movie you would know that she specifically acknowledges that TRP on Reddit is different from men's rights movements. Presumably she didn't realize this before making the movie, and by the time she learned the difference, it was too late to rename it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 07:14 PM
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I'm sure feminists and leftists would fully support their freedom of speech and assembly and only protest in legal, non-violent ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 07:05 PM
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Better than the time an MRA called me a lying feminist shrew, but you still need to chill your roll. Your post is chock full of arguments obviously made in bad faith. Maybe instead of giving sassy responses to people's accusations of you being dishonest you could actually reflect on why you have received this criticism on more than one occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 07:03 PM
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Their main goal is hating feminists not helping men, and they would rather create fraudulent charities than support men or men's programs And feminism is just about man-hating, right? I can point to all these prominent feminists who clearly hate men! Come on, you know exactly why this is poor reasoning. Quit being intellectually lazy and come up with some real arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 06:54 PM
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Apologies, I slightly misread your post there. I didn't realize you were specifically referring to "big players" and thought instead you were just referring to men not actively seeking a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 06:50 PM
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Fair enough. I guess you could call this place "safer" than, say, Twitter, where people post their poorly-conceived opinions publicly and then get butthurt when others correct them (sometimes in more civil ways than others). At least here there's a minimum level of civility.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 06:39 PM
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You were speaking as if it were an inevitability though, not an option some men choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 06:36 PM
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I agree, that's just weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 06:17 PM
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I'd argue that the number isn't important as the place in someone's life. My years of 25, 26, and 27 were an absolute mess because of depression and personal issues. I was not in a good position to be dating during that time. I'm 29 now, and I've recovered a lot through external support and therapy, but also just personal maturity. It may not be a guarantee that someone's fitness for dating will improve over time, but I would say it's more likely to go up than it is to go down. You're always lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 05:48 PM
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Eh, I'd agree with you if there wasn't so much blunt, vulgar, not-well-thought-out stuff posted here. It's still possible that these actually are the best thoughts they could come up with though. Just because a thought is poorly conceived doesn't mean someone didn't put in effort into conceiving it. And that's why it's good to have others scrutinize what we say, so we can reflect on flaws in our thinking. Of course, that's how it's supposed to go in theory. People definitely struggle with that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 05:39 PM
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The benefit of the ten years between 25 and 35 is not some process of self-discovery, it's having ten years to meet new people and find one you really love as opposed to rushing into a relationship with the first decent person who's attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 05:29 PM
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If you're a big player, eventually you end up socially isolated because all of your friends settle down and you look increasingly ridiculous hanging round in bars trying to pick up women, and don't have anyone to hang around with to do it anyway. So you just pick the best option that you have at that time to shack up with. Lmao had to stop here, this is so ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 05:19 PM
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That doesn't make sense though. People are much more blunt, vulgar, and honest when they're not being judged. When you're posting in a place where you know your words are going to be scrutinized, you have to be more careful with what you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 05:17 PM
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Good point, it can be in some circumstances, but that's kinda like saying, "Yes it's illegal to have sex if you violently rape the other person." It kinda goes without saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 05:00 PM
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I'd say you can probably get away with being slightly unattractive more easily as a male than as a female.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 02:36 PM
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Being 13 and having sex is not a crime in any country I'm aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 02:30 PM
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I don't understand how you can consider the one place where open dialogue and debate between vastly different viewpoints occurs a "safe space" or how people are desperate to be "vulnerable". I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 02:27 PM
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Because women's words are deceptive, lying about reality, knowingly or not, often enough. This might as well be fiction. Just sounds horribly bitter, reflecting your strong biases. I would word it differently, but there is a bit of truth to that. There is a considerable discrepancy between the type of man women say they want and the type of man they actually go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 09:31 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about then because that's not what the original question posed in this thread is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:26 PM
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I just find it unlikely that if a poor woman had the choice between getting what a poor man has or a what a rich person of either gender has that she would choose the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:19 PM
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If the men in your country are dirt poor, why would you even want equality with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:08 PM
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Not RP here, but I both see why someone would think that this is true, and why it's not. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say intelligence is a turn-on for most guys, even RP. It's much more exciting to be with someone who has insightful things to say and can talk at length about whatever her field of interest is. But what RP men are not attracted to is the "career-minded" type of woman; the type that values her independence so much to the extent that she emasculates men by not letting them t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 03:40 PM
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Almost every response here is "no". But my real-world experience says something very different. Obviously a significant number of women are having one night stands because men are having them, too. Are women here not representative of most women IRL? Or are women here not being fully honest with themselves? Maybe both? If we were to phrase this question, "How many women here have ever had a one night stand?", I wonder how different the responses would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 03:25 PM
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The concept of calories out vs. calories in is very simple, yes, but the matter of human beings having the willpower and discipline to follow a good regimen for eating healthy is not so simple. If you have excellent eating and workout habits, I applaud you, that's fantastic, but unless you're disciplined in all other areas of your life (which I highly doubt), then you really have no business looking down on others for not being able to get into healthy eating and exercise habits and sticking wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 03:15 PM
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Yeah this is a good point. The feminist viewpoint is the prevailing one, so pretty much everyone is fully aware of issues that women face. The topic of men's issues is typically brushed aside, so it's much more likely someone will actually be surprised upon experiencing these for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 07:03 AM
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If you're smart, then you should be intelligent enough to dress well and do what's necessary to make yourself attractive to the opposite sex. Even changing your personality altogether. But if you consider yourself smart yet lack the insight to do these things, you may not be as smart as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:31 AM
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I dunno, some people like me are late bloomers. When I was 21, I was really insecure and desperate about not being able to be with anyone. Almost a decade later, my love life is so much easier. Maturity is one part of it, but having a good job and my own car and place helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 12:37 AM
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Wow, it's almost as if you shit all over the population of a country, the people of that country aren't going to be happy with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 04:18 PM
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I'd need to know what you believe constitutes mistreatment or harassment. If "being a dick on Reddit" counts, then I'm probably guilty, but I don't single anyone out or anything, I just argue a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 11:44 PM
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And if that's your only exposure to feminism, then your view won't really encompass the wide breadth of the movement. That's fair, and I agree. If you see a difference, then you ask yourself why those differences exist. And it always boils down to tangible social, legal and financial restrictions that men don't face. Which feminism is trying to remove. Inequality of opportunity is one possible explanation for inequality of outcome, but it's not the only one. Anti-feminists would argue that sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 11:36 PM
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I'm curious what you'd think about me. I'm not sure if I'm fully convinced on all the scientific claims put for by trans activists, in particular the more outlandish ones like, "there's no such thing as biological sex." I'm sure it's obvious to you, but I hear lots of claims thrown out by both sides of this debate, and I've just never cared enough to dig deep and find out the truth. And the reason I don't care that much is because I have a very "live and let live" philosophy, meaning I would nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:43 PM
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Just curious: why trans rights in particular, and what does "trans rights" mean to you, in short?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:04 PM
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Definitely. In fact I get bored when people agree with me on everything. I like to be challenged, and I like to challenge others. I know I'm not right about everything, so I want someone who will keep me on my toes. That said, I probably couldn't be with someone who makes her political views a core part of her identity. If her Facebook/Twitter is full of nothing but posts about political issues, and every conversation seems to revolve around that topic, then I'm out of there in a hurry. I need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:02 PM
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That's commendable, but be careful with that thinking. We're all human, so we're all susceptible to confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 09:23 PM
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The point of the exercise is to state the opposing argument in such a way that someone who held that belief would accept it as accurate. It's completely pointless if you don't make a genuine attempt to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 09:22 PM
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You say this, but the vast majority of debates that ever happen seem to be two people arguing against caricatures and hyperboles of their opponents' positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:56 PM
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It's frequently used as an insult, so I assumed you were using it in that context. Apparently I was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:49 PM
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Thanks. I don't know if it's the most widely accepted. (according to who? I'd wajer that a lot of feminists still haven't heard of intersectionality. depends on how involved you are) That's what I hear about the most as an external observer. Maybe it's just the most commonly accepted version here on Reddit. This is where a lot of people trip up. No one has the social and economic freedom to pursue whatever goals they want in life. It's about everyone having equal opportunity. ... those causes sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:46 PM
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Calling it "triggering" to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:25 PM
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Japanese pronunciation is actually incredibly easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:23 PM
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Seriously, what the fuck is with every other girl on Tinder having some metal shit in her nose? It's fucking awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:21 PM
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The fact that they don't use the word around people who disagree isn't a knock against the people who disagree, it's a knock on their level of honesty when making their arguments. If you feel the need to soften your terminology when engaging in debate, then you're pulling a motte and bailey; i.e. putting on a friendly face just to appear less radical to people outside your group.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:13 PM
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Could you take a look at mine and correct anything I got wrong? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/657cha/q4all_do_you_think_you_could_argue_the_other/dg84tjv/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:08 PM
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but just ignore the hyperbole and soften the edges a bit and it will accurately describe it. So, ignore the inaccurate parts and it's accurate? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:06 PM
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what feminism is Feminism is the advocation of equality by focusing on the advancement of women's rights. It is not in opposition to men or their rights, but it's also not the primary focus. what the different types of feminism are The most widely accepted type of feminism today is intersectional feminism, which acknowledges that you can't address inequality solely through the lens of gender, and that taking into account race, sexual orientation, gender identity, and (dis)ability as well are nec…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 08:03 PM
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I think you nailed it except for the last line, but I'm guessing that was on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:45 PM
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I think the exercise was to try and accurately represent the other side's position, not caricature it. It's very telling that you either tried to do this or failed, or simply didn't care to try. This is an exercise in intellectual honesty, and you failed. I encourage you to try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:37 PM
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Yeah this is called lifestyle creep. As your salary goes up, it's very easy to let your spending habits increase along with it without even noticing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:28 PM
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Yes they do. I love how this thread is full of dudes straight up telling you they don't give a shit, and you don't appear to have been swayed in the slightest. You didn't post this because you wanted your view challenged, you're just grandstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:23 PM
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I think you misunderstood. If you get accepted for a PhD program, the school should be paying you to pursue that degree in exchange for working either as a teaching assistant or research assistant. I don't know anyone who has ever paid tuition for a PhD program.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:21 PM
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Seconded. Don't care. Or rather, the salary does not concern me. But at the very least she could work at a coffee shop or something. Fuck Wal-Mart.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 05:06 PM
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Yeah a lot of problems could be resolved if people were better about communicating these things. I'm not lazy, I just didn't even notice anything was dirty!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:56 PM
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DSL is available in most areas cable internet is. It's a coinflip as to which one is faster in a given area though. 4 years ago the DSL was way faster and cheaper here, but since then Comcast has become the better provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:03 PM
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I agree. That's why my concerns are more societal and cultural rather than political.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:01 PM
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I used to be on the hate bandwagon, but they've gotten their shit together recently, at least from a technological standpoint. Their internet speeds were absolutely stagnant for years because they simply had no incentive to upgrade with no competition. But once Google fiber started rolling out, along with companies like CenturyLink and Verizon also offering speeds much better than what Comcast could offer, they must have freaked out. I pay $60/mo to Comcast now, and I get around 230mbps, which b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:21 PM
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Good answer. Fortunately one's own happiness and the happiness of others very often go hand in hand, since acts of kindness and compassion towards others bring us happiness. Unless you're a sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:18 PM
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I've never been madly in love so I can't say. But from a practical standpoint, that statement sounds like romantic hogwash.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:17 PM
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It's most likely still maintained by Comcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:14 PM
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Everybody thinks that if they were the dictator, they'd be the benevolent one. Regardless of whether that's true, it's always just a matter of time before the benevolent ones get stabbed to death in their sleep by the malevolent ones. Is it not a valid answer to say that the best way to fix society is to stop trying to change other people, and just live and let live?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:13 PM
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Empathy. And I'm not talking about the "you'll never know what it's like so you have no right to speak" kind of crap that people try to pass off as "empathy" these days. I mean actually listening to someone else's words and trying genuinely to understand why they feel and think the way they do. Instead of defaulting to the assumption that people view things through the same lens as you, giving people the benefit of the doubt that they truly believe they are doing the right thing, even though it …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:10 PM
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Ironically, back in my days of being a "nice guy" it was my inability to form genuine friendships with girls that led to pedestalizing them. I didn't know how to maintain a platonic friendship with a girl, so I ended up falling in love with every single one I met. It was only once I found a really tight-knit social circle of both guys and girls that I was able to develop more healthy relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 03:52 PM
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Seems like a great idea to live together and both work for a number of years to get ahead on finances before having kids. But once kids happen, I think work hours will no doubt need to cut back by at least one party. I don't like the idea of my kids spending the majority of their infancy in day cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 03:50 PM
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I can say as someone who works full-time that my social network is not any better. I only have two or three friends that I've known forever that I actually spend time with. I like my coworkers fine, but we're not the type to hang out outside of the office.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 03:32 PM
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This may be a stereotype, but women have a way of finding work around the house when everything appears spotless to a man. This is why women often feel frustrated that men don't do more housework without them nagging - it's because to them, the house looks perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 03:30 PM
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Yea I plan to make a heap of dough We've got us a temporarily embarrassed millionaire here!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 03:26 PM
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How is any of this contradictory to anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 09:40 AM
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I said there's value in a well-rounded education, not that anyone should be forced into anything. But I think you already knew that, you just didn't care about being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 02:55 AM
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Yes, you have made that clear by this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 01:15 AM
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Okay. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 12:51 AM
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You could've studied Eastern European history on your own for cheeper. Having a perfect body is just a matter of working out regularly and eating the right diet. Mastering a musical instrument is just a matter of practicing daily. It's all just that simple, right? What's something you wish you knew more about? Why don't you know everything there is to know about it? What's stopping you from just learning it on your own? Your argument is the silly one. People need guidance and structure to improv…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 12:50 AM
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Learning is a luxury?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 12:40 AM
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You can view it that way if you choose, or you can embrace the opportunity to learn about something you wouldn't typically study in your free time. I probably never would have taken in interest in Eastern European history if I hadn't been required to take it as a core class, but I actually ended up enjoying it so much I took a second class on the topic. If you view education strictly as a means to getting a job, then yeah, you're not gonna be happy with the full spectrum of classes you have to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 11:37 PM
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Is textbook price gouging a scam? Definitely. Is college overpriced? It is in America. Is it a scam that you're forced to take gen ed classes in addition to your major? No, that's part of what makes it a classical university education. An educated person is supposed to be well-rounded and have knowledge in a number of different fields, not purely an expert in one and clueless about everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 09:58 PM
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Physical assault of any kind. I've never raised a hand to anyone in my life, and I never will, so if I get hit by my SO, it's sure as shit not because I hit her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 07:36 AM
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I don't care? Like, if the guy is my friend, and he's complaining about being single, of course I'm going to tell him to lower his standards. But if he's perfectly fine with being single potentially for a very long time (or forever), what do I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:31 PM
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I'm far more concerned about arrogant blowhards who view themselves as above sourcing their claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 10:18 PM
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It very well could be, but the burden of proof would still be yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:13 PM
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I didn't say you "had" to debate anyone. I'm still just reminding you on how a debate actually works. Saying, "I reject your affirmative claim," is not "pulling something out of your ass".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:39 PM
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Debates are not subject to your personal feelings on the other person's opinion. Although it is telling that you hope bad ideas spread through groups you disagree with just so it's easier for you to discredit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 04:48 PM
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I'm not debating you on that point. I'm just not letting you get away with changing the rules of how debates work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 04:22 PM
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Doesn't matter, you can't just say "every study" and expect people do take it seriously. Yours is still the affirmative claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 12:38 PM
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I wish people would listen and actually attempt to empathize more. Genuinely try to understand why people think and feel the way they do instead of demonizing them for not thinking the same way as themselves. In which diversity of thought is celebrated as much as diversity of skin color.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:53 AM
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Burden of proof, you're doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:42 AM
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Try being more precise and honest instead of deliberately hyperbolic next time. Don't give them such an easy out to dismiss a valid point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 02:19 AM
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I agree. It sucks that OP was hyperbolic because it gives BP a target to criticize other than his point, but his point is a valid one nonetheless. Women are breaking out of their traditional gender roles by pursuing careers and being independent, but they still typically don't even glance at a man who doesn't have career ambitions of his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 08:20 PM
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lol no worries
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 08:49 PM
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I was talking about why fewer women were interested in STEM so I dunno where you got all that from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 08:17 PM
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Oh, I guess I misread it. My mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 08:08 PM
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Yep. Ideally I'd like to move to a bigger city sometime where there are more attractive single women, since it's pretty barren where I am now, but the lovely thing is that I'm in no hurry at all. I'm perfectly content engaging in hobbies, going on adventures, and doing whatever the hell I want in the meantime.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 08:07 PM
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Maybe, but who says he has to date his age? Why not aim for someone who's 23-26?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:56 PM
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Yes I know, but running errands still is a lot more exercise than sitting at a desk all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:50 PM
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And what do you think about the upcoming election in South Korea after the impeachment of their previous president? What were we discussing again?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:49 PM
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lmao nothing I have written remotely suggests that I'm frustrated or mad. Learn how to handle some mild disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:29 PM
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when and why you can say no (answer: always) You don't recognize it as knee-jerk because your knee is still jerked. What you're saying is the equivalent of responding to a discussion about when it's appropriate to use the n-word with, "First Amendment, it's never illegal to say it!" It's not the point, it's about a level of consideration beyond the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:32 PM
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The problem is the part where you think feminism can get you into top positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:26 PM
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What reasoning do you have to believe this is more like than simply fewer women being interested in STEM? Do you reject outright the possibility that men and women have different interests from a biological perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 04:47 PM
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It's okay to say no at any time for any reason from a personal autonomy standpoint. This seems to be the knee-jerk response from most BP here, and the fact that you think this needs to be said shows that you really didn't understand the point OP was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 04:36 PM
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Cool, that has nothing to do with the point though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 04:34 PM
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but now many women are choosing not to put up with a guy at all since she has her own money. If this is true, that's totally cool with me, but it just doesn't seem to be true. Women still want to get married just as much as before, even though they (and society) has changed so women have careers and independence now. That's why you see posts like this one essentially shaming and blaming men for not marrying, even though men just don't want to. if anything I'm glad people aren't compelled to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 04:14 PM
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running around instead of exercising
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 04:03 PM
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Funny how there are so few responses to this. You and I are in the same category, or at least close to it. I'm pushing 30, good salary, decently attractive, tall, etc. But I see absolutely no reason to date below my league, and an obese girl whose only interesting attributes are "easy going and loves to have fun" really doesn't do it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 03:55 PM
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all these MGTOWs and guys who think they are entitled to a good wife for simply being born male Yes, clearly a large and outspoken demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 03:37 PM
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https://youtu.be/yCfthlQsThc?t=2m19s I feel like this should be required watching for BP. Being "submissive" (I don't like that word, but whatever) isn't about catering to his whims. It's about letting a masculine guy feel masculine. It's about letting him provide to you what he can provide, even if you can do it yourself. If you advertise yourself as a "strong, independent woman", you're going to drive away guys not because they don't value strength, but because you're taking away what they wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 10:10 PM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 08:41 PM
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Those things are unfeminine. Yes, that was exactly his point. The rest of his comment actually describes feminine women, since over-emotionality and victim mentalities are feminine. Those are attributes of undesirable people, perhaps more often attributed to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:23 PM
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Erm, did we read the same comment? The majority of that comment was about behavior and attitudes....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:10 PM
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Fuck that, I don't want to date a man with a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:08 PM
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If she's a teenager it's understandable, but if she's 30 and a virgin, then there's not many guys who are gonna put up with her holding out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:14 PM
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Read through that thread. Your summary is not at all what the responses were saying. You either lack reading comprehension or you deliberately misrepresented what they were saying. What they were saying is that guys these days typically don't want to stick around trying to get with a girl if he doesn't know he's gonna get laid. If he's dated someone for several weeks, and she's still pushing him away when he makes advances, you bet he's gonna stop wasting his effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:08 AM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:11 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 11:12 PM
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Because there's a discrepancy, and obviously whenever gender ratios are not exactly 50-50, it's proof of discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:39 PM
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they always do Which is why communities are completely racially integrated with the exception of recent immigrants, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:07 PM
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Because most guys typically dress like the guy on the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:36 PM
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Putting it on and wearing it in public is owning it enough. Most guys wouldn't be caught dead in a pink shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:34 PM
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That women have it significantly worse than men in Western culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:26 PM
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I believe you, I'm just saying your anecdotal experience differs from mine, and I am a guy. I'm not hideous or awkward either, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:07 PM
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Okay, well you're not going to believe me, but there are actually a significant number of men in real life who appreciate it when women are forward
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:39 PM
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Privilege is about structures of power. Your dating life is rarely about structures of power. It can be -- but it's not for the most part. Of course you want to exclude dating life from the definition of "privilege" because otherwise you'd have to admit that women are privileged in that area. I am not a feminist & I also think this is telling and stupid. You sure talk like one. This is idiotic. You don't have the power ''to choose the best option out of everything available'' -- you have the pow…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:25 PM
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hurr durr hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:02 PM
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The fundamental issue here is that you dudes just refuse to understand what privilege is. No, we just don't like it when morons with an agenda try to redefine words to suit their needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:59 PM
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This is ridiculous. I have no idea where you're going with this. You're either being dishonest or incredibly retarded here. I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 01:21 AM
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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you didn't leave out the next sentence on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 10:53 PM
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I agree that it'd be good to see more women active in pursuing leadership roles. I don't claim to know why fewer women do this, but I reject defaulting to, "must be discrimination" whenever a discrepancy exists. But I still don't understand how the gender of politicians can both matter and not matter to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:11 PM
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You're right, sorry. I don't know why I just felt like being a dick for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:06 PM
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Huh? Can you please retake 6th grade English and rewrite that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:06 PM
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Well privilege is not about people's personal dating life, tbh. And why is that? What part of the definition of "privilege" excludes dating life? This is a perfect example of the feminist tendency to redefine words based on whatever is convenient for the situation. The fact that this is the greatest struggle of men's lives is telling. Yeah and the fact that the biggest thing feminists complain about is manspreading is also telling. Oh, sorry, did I just put words in your mouth? 'explain to me ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:04 PM
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Your subconscious is not completely separate from your conscious mind. Part of being a disciplined individual is being able to identify subconscious ("automatic") thoughts and analyzing whether it's a rational response. What you're describing is a situation in which you notice something subconsciously and act based on that without ever using any conscious thought. What I am describing is a situation in which you don't notice something at all. It's impossible to act or think differently based on …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 05:37 PM
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Saying anything of the form of "these people need to stop whining about x" is definitely shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 05:31 PM
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I don't think you should vote for someone just because they are a man or woman, you should vote based on their policies... Then why in the world do you bring up the number of male politicians as if it's a problem? You can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 10:07 PM
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Haha the funny thing is, the "not all men" was not even a criticism I made. I assume it's just your go-to disclaimer when someone puts you on the defensive. And you also completely ignored everything about how horribly off-base the second part of your comment was, presumably because you realize how ridiculous it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 09:44 PM
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Women hold 50% of the vote as well. Don't want more men in office? Don't vote for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 09:33 PM
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What you see is coming from your perspective. Your third party observation of someone else's experience is not as accurate as someone recounting their own experience. Which is why it's absurd to make claims like "women feel more pressure than men". You can only truly know how much you personally feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:49 PM
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Of course that's not your point because you don't see it that way, even though that's how it is. Normal, everyday, working class people view the rich and influential people as "the rich" but it takes a feminist to look at them as "the rich men". Mostly men produce content and products for both men and women because both men and women will consume them. If women want more of their "ideas", as you put, it in society, there's nothing (other than feminist conspiracy theories) stopping them from doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:45 PM
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Never being single for more than a week or two. Even if her relationships are typically long-term, if she can't be independent for any significant period of time, that's the red flag for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:39 PM
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Explain to me how having to do the entire courting process to find romance is more "advantageous" than being courted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:24 PM
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I have no idea why woman feminists think they are in a position to judge how much pressure there is on men to maintain appearance and fitness. They get angry whenever men "mansplain" things a woman experiences, yet have absolutely no problem doing the exact same thing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:20 PM
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The existence of a fringe sexist group of dudes on the Internet does not prove the need for feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:17 PM
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The 99% of men who are not politicians or CEOs really don't give a shit what the gender ratios are. The way feminists use that to prove some kind of male privilege is completely out of touch with the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:14 PM
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I sincerely believe that feminists are compartmentalized in the same sense Creationists are that completely blocks them from even entertaining the notion that in some sense, female privilege exists. It's blatantly obvious to anyone outside feminist circles that women have it easier in a number of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:12 PM
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"He started it!" is not a valid rebuttal to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:08 PM
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Yeah yeah. You put up the "not all men" and "not only" men disclaimers now that someone has called you out on it, but you've already made your opinion perfectly clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:36 PM
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when some men stop whining about condoms or refusing to use them, those men might get a little more sympathy. unsurprisingly, this group seems to overlap a lot with those who hate single mothers and think men have zero responsibilities ever. Nice male shaming there. Something takes the pleasure out of sex for men? Quit whining. I dare you to say the same thing about women in the public sphere. See how that would go over. Also, nice job combining guilt by association and a straw man into such few…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:09 PM
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Dude I don't understand how you think it's literally impossible for someone to not notice that they are the racial/gender minority in a group. This has happened to me several times before - at least I didn't notice at first, but realized it a while later. I have no doubt there have been many times I didn't notice at all. If you run in circles that just have a lot of diversity, things like ratios of people of different races become completely trivial. It's a non-issue. No one cares. Even subconsc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 04:34 PM
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Are you expecting me to be offended by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:26 PM
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"Female" being the age-neutral term for a girl/woman. I wish people would shut the fuck up about this word being an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 02:39 PM
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Of course not. Most of my female friends are just friends because they're just not my type, and I'm most likely not theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 02:34 PM
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Have you seen what they eat? Fried chicken and waffles, 48oz steaks, gigantic beef ribs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 02:31 PM
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lol ok then it must be amazing being omniscient
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 02:24 PM
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You're saying it's literally impossible to simply not notice?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 10:36 PM
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They're both pretty meaningless statements. AWALT is a self-evidently absurd claim, and NAWALT is the assertion that the obviously false statement is false. It would be much more productive to talk about trends, but I guess that's not as catchy sounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 08:47 PM
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No they're equally useless when there's no reliable research. The correct answer in situations like that is, "I don't know."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 08:41 PM
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I think I turned 11 in sixth grade. What the fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 08:37 PM
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I had a girlfriend when I was 14, but that's so young it's hard to learn anything from that really, so I guess I didn't really date anyone until I was 20. I was definitely slow to develop social skills, especially around girls, but I think being someone who wasn't naturally gifted with social skills who learned them on his own makes me a little more knowledgeable than someone who has always had them. To clarify, I didn't get better socially by using PUA or RP techniques, it was just trial and er…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 08:36 PM
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I haven't seen anything that has really surprised me or opened my eyes. RP ideas about male self-improvement are still pretty good imo, but their views on women range from questionable to downright awful. BP is mostly feminists who disavow any criticism of their ideology as "straw feminism", but there are some moderates who just are very critical of RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 08:26 PM
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On the contrary, I think it's the kind of thing you may notice at first, but if it happens all the time, you can get entirely used to it and not even notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:03 PM
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Speak for yourself. You don't know me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 10:27 PM
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Better do the exact opposite then..???
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 10:26 PM
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I mean, women by nature aren't confident so ??? Subconsciously, especially because of the blatant racism in our media/propaganda/news, it is impossible for any American to truly not be racist. I guess by SJW standards I would be considered a racist because their definition of racist is "anyone who's not completely on board with our politics". But I just laugh whenever people tell me what's going on in my subconscious. You don't know a thing about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 10:25 PM
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Basically you're expecting everyone to have a man's sort of confidence and dgaf mentality. If you approach a problem with the mentality of "I don't have as much confidence as this other entire group of people", then you're already setting yourself up for failure. Remember when feminism was about this? If someone were to change that poster to reflect modern feminism, it'd read like, "We can't do anything, help us government!" If you pretend to not do it then you become oblivious to your biases an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 09:45 PM
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Really? I'm pretty opposed to what I see in the feminist movement these days, but I don't claim it's never done any good. I just think modern feminism is so vastly different from feminism a century ago that I barely see them as the same thing. I consider myself anti-feminist, but I don't really give a shit about labels, so if we don't call it that, fine with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:46 PM
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Yeah I just can't get on board. I'm not going to support legal intervention for something like college admissions because people are intimidated by stereotypes. I wanted to study math, so I went to college and I fucking studied math. I really didn't give a shit about the ratios of race and gender in my classes. If you want to study math, but don't do so because of something like that, I question how badly you wanted to get into the field in the first place. This isn't about me, it's about human …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:28 PM
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You can't reject, say, the concept of rape culture without also rejecting say, women's suffrage? That's a rhetorical question actually, because you definitely can.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:23 PM
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First off, what did that have to do with my comment? Secondly, if you walk into a room and see 80% of (identity group you don't belong to) and 20% of (identity group you belong to), and you subconsciously extrapolate that to all (your identity group), that's really not a societal problem, but rather a logical failure on your part. If you tried, maybe, not viewing every scenario through the lens of what racial and gender identities people belong to, you might be able to just get through a class w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 06:53 PM
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So being a critic of modern feminist theory or causes means you also have to oppose everything feminism has supported in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 06:45 PM
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That's called motte and bailey tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 06:43 PM
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"women and men should be equal under the law, but since all human beings are different even with equal laws there won't be equal outcome." FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 06:39 PM
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If someone supports the rights and equality of women they're a feminist. If this is true, then why does the Wikipedia entry for Christina Hoff Sommers explicitly avoid calling her a feminist? She considers herself one, and she certainly supports the rights and equality of women, but she rejects tenets of modern feminism such as rape culture and the patriarchy. I know there are a lot of moderate feminists who make the same claim that you just did, but the most prominent and most active members of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 06:35 PM
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Statistics on who is more likely to leave a chronically sick partner is a bizarrely specific and narrow situation to justify your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 05:31 PM
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you're more likely to hear a woman complain about how the men available for her to date are juvenile and immature and need to be mothered than describe them as powerful. Can we put the whole "patriarchy" thing to rest then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 05:58 PM
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Everything is straw feminism these days. This is so tiresome. Don't you guys ever stand up for your own beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 05:51 PM
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No, you gave an argument. You're not considering the possibility that someone understands your opinion perfectly, yet still disagrees. I don't know what it is with feminists in this regard, but almost all of you do seem to make this mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 04:11 PM
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So when you hear anyone complain about consent courses just remember that all they are saying is that they are completely ignorant Nah, you got it backwards. If you disagree with my opinion, then that makes you ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:42 PM
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No because I wouldn't trade who I am for anything in the world. If I had been born a girl, I'm confident I would be saying the exact same thing. I have plenty of my own problems and my own struggles, some of them fairly serious, but nothing that would make me want to be someone I'm not. It's not specific to gender, I just wouldn't trade anything about me for something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:10 PM
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I like how you never bothered to refute my claims regarding the Brock Turner case in this thread, and just continue to spew the same bullshit as before in a brand new thread. Please, this is not a "discussion" thread - you're clearly only interested in talking at people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:02 PM
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In some cases, I agree, but if one of those speakers was perfectly benign and not misogynistic in the slightest, that fact would go completely unnoticed by many feminists. Just saying "men's rights" triggers a knee-jerk reaction that makes feminists say exactly what you just said, and nuance is never really considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 06:48 AM
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Exactly this. It's perfectly valid to take the position of just being "anti-bullshit" without being "pro-" anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 09:39 PM
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Could you please define some of these terms for those of us who are unfamiliar?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 09:35 PM
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Blue Pill isn't the belief in the opposite of Red Pill, it's belief that the Red Pill is bullshit. I don't think this is true at all. I think Red Pill is mostly bullshit, but I find Blue Pill far more insufferable. Try going to /r/TheBluePill and posting anything that doesn't fall in line with modern-day feminist and SJW rhetoric, see how well that goes over. It may not be an explicit part of what "defines" TBP, but they also won't let you be a part of their club if you're not on board with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 09:33 PM
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If feminists don't want to be made fun of for banning dissent maybe they should stop banning people for dissent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 08:12 PM
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Debates don't usually go, "Here is my argument. May I have your rebuttal, please?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 05:46 PM
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The country you're living in is something you should definitely be certain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 05:45 PM
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Probably already banned for asking this question there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 05:44 PM
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Every argument against patriarchy is a straw man because the definition of "patriarchy" always changes depending on the context, the mood of the feminist, and the alignment of the stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 05:43 PM
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Then maybe feminists could stop protesting every event where people discuss men's issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 05:39 PM
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Maybe you could actually point out why his analogy doesn't apply instead of just dismissing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 05:37 PM
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It's gotten to the point where "straw feminism" is nothing more than restating the exact same things feminists say except in a more honest and less charitable manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 05:12 PM
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Right that's totally why you threw that obnoxious snark in instead of just stating the stipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 06:20 AM
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But she had kids. Nope. No more needs to be said. It is the epitome of "dealbreaker".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 06:13 AM
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So? They can try all they want, Roe v. Wade isn't going anywhere. Do you have any idea how hard it is to overturn a Supreme Court precedent like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:44 AM
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So, not about rights then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 02:40 AM
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Abortion is still legal in the USA. Previous poster said feminism was about "women's rights". By saying "feminism has moved on from legal rights," are you disagreeing with that person?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 11:45 PM
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What if there were extenuating circumstances that did not leak? Again, you weren't part of the trial. I mean, I understand the court system is far from perfect, but it's still arrogant for you, with your surface-level understanding of the case at best, to claim that you know the proper justice for this case better than those who were deeply involved in every step of the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 11:14 PM
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Ardent anti-feminist here. No, I don't believe that. I think they're people with good intentions, but lack the insight or awareness to realize when they are the exact kind of bullies that they claim to be fighting against. They think being white or male makes you the one in power by default, but fail to realize that it's their rhetoric that you see in the mainstream, and their rhetoric that defines the Overton Window. Feminists and SJWs seem completely oblivious to the fact that they can shout t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 10:59 PM
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My reasonable comments on there got auto-deleted because you have to be an "approved poster" before you're allowed to comment at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 10:42 PM
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Did you watch the full trial? Did you hear all the evidence and hear both sides of the case? Do you claim to know as much about the case as the people in the courtroom whose job it was to come up with a verdict and a sentence? Comments like this irk me because it strikes me as obnoxiously arrogant to claim you know better what crime Turner should have received when you undoubtedly know less about the details of the case than the people who delivered the sentence. You're presenting your ill-infor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 10:40 PM
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I hear this all the time, but nobody is ever able to answer the question of what rights women are lacking, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 10:36 PM
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today's society is already showing that girls would rather go without than pair off with them. Girls in their 20's, maybe, but come 35 or so that biological instinct takes over.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 09:54 PM
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Which would leave millions of women without husbands, mathematically speaking. The odds would be great for men who don't go for those "top" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 07:16 PM
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Things probably wouldn't change much? Men, how many of you would honestly be willing to marry a woman who already had one or more husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 06:18 PM
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Oh please, not this again. If feminists don't want people to misinterpret what "fragile masculinity" is, why would they come up with a term that's so blatantly provocative? Why not pick something that more accurately describes the concept? This motte and bailey bullshit is so annoying. You always have an excuse to fall back on in the form of, "Oh no, it's not designed to attack (x privileged group), it's just attacking (some abstraction based on x privleged group)!" How long do you think it woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 06:09 PM
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I have no idea where you're getting this from. You may be spending too much time with nerds on the internet who are obsessed with geeky gamer chicks. I don't agree in any way that society hates feminine personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:58 PM
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DAE POP MUSIC IS SHIT??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:54 PM
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FYI "criteria" is already a plural noun. "Criterion" is the singular form.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 02:22 AM
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You're asking me? I was laughing at the pure absurdity of that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 01:56 PM
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It was a fairly simple question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 06:33 AM
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Lol what civil rights exactly? The right to be paid a certain amount? The right to have no one be rude to you? And you're just embarrassing yourself with those cringey attempts at being patronizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 06:04 AM
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Wow, you sure could not have proved my point any more. There's a distinct difference between someone not specifically acknowledging that someone else has worse problems than themselves and actively complaining about one's own issues. Every comment I've made here was expressing the former, and every time you twist it as if I said the latter. It's just a pure, childish shaming tactic. And even if I were actually complaining about my own problems, you do realize the irony of mocking someone for say…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 04:00 AM
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I don't need anything. If you ask a friend for $20, do you start the conversation by yelling at them about how fortunate they are to have more money and what a shit human being they are for not admitting their financial privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 12:54 AM
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So what? Everybody has struggles in life. If you want to convince me that I should support the causes you think I should, you could start by not completely disregarding (if not downright laughing at) my own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 11:51 PM
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I'll take that as a yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 10:03 PM
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"Well, obviously the people who disagree should just stop disagreeing," That's assuming that they even give you the respect of calling it "disagreeing". Usually they break it down into two categories: themselves, and bigots. Once they characterize their entire opposition as racists and sexists, then they feel morally justified in never listening to a word of disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 10:02 PM
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Okay, so to be clear, you are talking about us, here posting on PPD, not any people in history?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 09:53 PM
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So are you talking about people in history, or are you talking about us, here, today? You're talking as if it's the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 09:13 PM
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But how can you argue that we've never lived in a patriarchal society? Who's "we"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 08:56 PM
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in Korea women are seen as logical and men as emotional lmao what
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 08:08 PM
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However, noting lack candor isn't an argument, its merely a criticism. Except that was literally the question. Why should anyone respect feminism or social justice when the advocates act this disrespectful towards them? for all those who push the "not an argument" crap, its hilarious when they do the same Not only are you wrong, as my response directly supplemented the question at hand, but I haven't the slightest clue what you're referring to here. Are you associating me with some group of peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 07:51 PM
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This is what a lot of SJWs seem to forget. They forget that they're the ones asking for help. They think white people and/or men are a privileged class, and therefore those people need to give up something (money, jobs, etc.) to make more room for minorities. And in order to accomplish that, they'd either have to give it up willingly, or get enough people on board to pass it into law. So whenever I see places like SRS that make a hobby out of shitting all over white men, or condescending videos …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 07:45 PM
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We all know how this word game works. "We're not blaming men, we're blaming the patriarchy!" "It's not white people that are the problem, it's whiteness." Do you really expect a white male with no exposure to feminism or social justice to be on board when you push crap like this? Would you seriously expect someone to say, "Oh okay, that's fair then"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 07:32 PM
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So, no point in trying to get better at something if you're not a natural at it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 06:18 PM
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What's the conspiracy theory? That a lot of media outlets collectively slandered gamers as a whole in retaliation for exposing their corrupt reviewing system? Because that is kinda what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 06:13 PM
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Most Gamergaters are sheltered conspiracy theorists. The trolls who issue threats on their behalf are happy to send threats to feminists as well. Or maybe they're just people wondering why all games media was suddenly starting shitting all over "gamers" collectively as a group?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 06:00 PM
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Everything makes you a misogynist these days. It's best not to worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:57 PM
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Because RP laughs at the idea of asking women for tips on how to pick up women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:53 PM
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If you take forever to text back, or if you never text me unless I text you, I'll take that to assume you're not interested and move on. I have no idea why some women think deliberately being distant in this way is some kind of effective strategy. It's not some kind of fun game that keeps me chasing after you. It's boring, and it kills my interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 05:51 PM
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A good practice to fight the constant back-and-forth of straw-man arguments is to have both sides attempt to accurately and thoroughly state the other person's position such that they would agree that that is indeed what they're arguing. It forces people to actually try to look at the situation from a different perspective and understand the other side, which makes for a much more meaningful discussion. Of course, there's just so much angry screeching and shitposting on this sub that it'd be sil…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 11:56 AM
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It's not so much the emasculating insults part that concerns me but rather the ubiquitous "they" you kept using. "That's objectively what they are doing." No, it's not, because we haven't defined who "they" are, and I bet a lot of reasonable people would disagree with you on that statement regardless of whichever group you're describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 03:27 AM
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Yes, please tell me how you hamster the idea that throwing insults -- specifically insults designed to be emasculating -- at a group of political opponents is anything more than using emasculating shaming tactics against people. I do not care what their political ideology is -- that's what they are doing. "insults" - whether something is an insult is up to subjective intepretation "designed to be emasculating" - How do you know that that was the intention as opposed to a side effect of the above…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 09:42 AM
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My point is that if by claiming something is "objectively" true, you're making the claim that your position on that is infallible. That anyone who looks at the same situation and analyzes honestly would come to the same conclusion. And that there is no room for debate, no grey area, and no different interpretations. Perspective doesn't matter. Your statement is riddled with subjectivities. You didn't even come close to meeting the standard of "objectively true". But you called it that anyway. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 02:43 AM
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No Wow, it's almost as if perspectives make a difference!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/17 02:03 AM
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We're talking about feminism, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 09:20 PM
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Thanks for saying this. The faux-outrage over that was so stupid. These were the same people who voted for the wife of a man who has been accused of countless instances of sexual harassment or worse. These pussy hat-wearing wenches never gave a shit about someone saying "Grab 'em by the pussy," they only cared that it was the guy they didn't like saying it. It was never about how good or bad someone's actions are - it's always been about whether you're on the good team or the bad team.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 09:19 PM
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You do realize that the word "objectively" actually has a meaning, and that you can't just slap it on top of whatever subjective opinion you're giving to make it magically become a fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 09:00 PM
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We want equality! As long as some people are more equal than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:51 PM
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I'm going to take a wild guess from your attempt to speak on behalf of all women that you're a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:50 PM
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You wanna wait 3-5 dates before getting it on? Great, sounds like a nice filter from dudes just wanting a ONS, and if I like you, I can wait a few dates. You wanna wait x number of months before getting it on, even though you've had a number of ONS in the past? Yeah fuck off, don't play games, and don't waste my time. This type of woman is epitomizing the AF/BB mentality. I won't speak for other dudes, but I won't seriously commit to anyone until after we've had sex. I want to know that we're co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 04:30 PM
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Not a helpful answer to the question. Everyone has their preferences, but there are also objective reasons as to why, for example, a McDonald's hamburger is not as good as an expensive burger at a fine-dining establishment. Better quality meat, professionally trained chefs, and unique balance of flavor, as opposed to shoving as much fat and sodium as possible onto a bun. Sure, there's still subjectivity involved - not everyone has to prefer the fancy one. The question was asking what qualities a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 09:45 PM
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It's like every stereotype wrapped into one image.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 04:44 PM
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These are standard points from the Manosphere doctrine. Which are...?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 08:42 PM
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neurodivergent So I had to look this up. It basically means autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 08:39 PM
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The clause is almost always used in conjunction with "don't teach women to not get raped," though. It's absolutely outrageous that you can't recommend some common sense practices for protecting oneself from assault without absurd accusations of "victim-blaming". Would you rather keep your pride and say, "I have every right not to get raped, so it's not my responsibility if I do," or would you simply rather not get raped? We have a saying in the bicycle community - "It doesn't do you any good to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 05:39 PM
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And if you read my comment, you'd know that I said this type of comment is typically said in response to controversy about media depictions of rape. If you disagree, then I encourage you to contribute to the discussion and provide some reasoning. But providing a one-word shit response is not even remotely helpful to whatever it is you're trying to prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 05:10 AM
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Was I unclear?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 10:34 PM
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"not the worst thing that could happen to you" This comment is not typically said out of the blue. It's usually said with the context of feminists freaking out over, say, a depiction of rape in a TV show. Men brutally slaughtered by the thousands, blood and guts everywhere seems to be just fine, but a woman getting raped results in controversy. People are just confused sometimes why feminists obsess over the crime of rape in particular while remaining suspiciously silent over other violent crime…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 07:13 PM
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Wow you really don't give a shit about intellectually honestly representing the opposing point of view, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 01:27 PM
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The claim was that the world was fucked up because of men, not just one part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 03:00 AM
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"Fuck off." Not a statement worthy of my time to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 02:59 AM
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While I appreciate the long reply, what you have given me is a list of ways in which you think anti-feminists misinterpret feminism, when what I was actually looking for was the actual feminist positions that are meant to be taken seriously. When you complain that anti-feminists "cherry-pick" feminist arguments, that implies that some of the things some feminists say or advocate are ridiculous or not meant to be taken seriously, while others are. But let's be real here. How in the world do you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 06:43 PM
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That is not what feminism is about. Women, even feminist women, saying stuff on reddit is not feminist activism. It's just people talking. That might seem like an easy out but it actually isn't. I'd argue that the more common feminist response to men's issues is actually not combative at all. The first part of that is fair, but I wholeheartedly disagree with your last sentence. The feminist kneejerk reaction to anything containing "men's" and "rights" in the same sentence is beyond absurd. The t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 06:29 PM
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Dude, it feels like I'm the one that needs to hold your hand. Is this what this debate is going to be? You take critical observations I've made and respond with "NO U"? Obvious and worse don't mean the same thing. When I say more obviously disadvantaged that means the disadvantage is more apparent, not that the issues are also worse. Why didn't you just say that? Don't blame me for your poor choice of words. And again, you're being completely intellectually dishonest here. Nobody thinks everybod…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 03:14 PM
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I don't think "men have issues but women have it worse", I think both men and women have issues. I think women are the more obviously disadvantaged group. What the fuck? And it's intellectually dishonest to say that being a (feminist) activist somehow means that you should help the ones who are in need (on a worldwide scale) which is basically what you're saying. Well that's convenient. My issues matter more than yours because you're privileged, but those even less-privileged people in other cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 07:42 AM
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Where did I say that men don't have serious issues to deal with? I said, "compared to women", which is only a slight exaggeration of actual feminist narrative. But still, that only serves to prove my point even more. If you say, "Sure men have issues, but women have it worse," then I'll say, "Sure, women in the West have issues, but women in Islamist countries have it worse." The prevailing feminist narrative is that women's needs should be prioritized because they're oppressed in today's Wester…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:19 AM
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So well-sourced stats that come from him are less valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 12:05 AM
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I like the part where you dismiss the stats without even seeing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:48 PM
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When I say improve their situation I'm talking about striving for more equality and justice, especially when it comes to issues of gender. So when a woman in Saudi Arabia looks at women in the West and sees women having equal rights under the law, working jobs just the same as men, enjoying the freedom to wear bikinis in public, and not being property of their husbands, don't you think they might make the same argument you're making now? Any argument you make in the form of, "Compared to women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:45 PM
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Accusing someone of being a terrorist because they are a Muslim is wrong and should be called out. Accusing someone of being a racist just for being critical of the ideology of Islam is also wrong and should be called out. Throwing these accusations back and forth is a completely pointless exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:32 PM
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Why would a woman living in the West not question and try to change the culture she was born and has always lived in? A dutch woman or Swedish woman lives in a much better situation than a woman living in Somalia but that doesn't mean she shouldn't continue to fight for improvement in her own situation. Then when straight, white males want to focus on improving their own situation, you will have no objection, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:22 PM
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cherry picking parts of feminism Can you please give a few examples of parts of feminism you think are overlooked by anti-feminists? to be outraged about Accuse people who disagree with you of just being angry, that's real original. Can you remind me again whose ideology involves demanding things in compensation for perceived victimhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 11:17 PM
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Did you even read my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:57 PM
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I find both of these sentiments ridiculous. I imagine that was your point, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:36 PM
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Artist, hands down. A girl who is killer on a musical instrument has my heart instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:31 PM
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It's not "since you don't share my opinion", but rather "since you are obviously simply repeating propaganda". Still doesn't mean that person doesn't have Muslim friends, as you implied. Anyone that thinks that all Muslims treat women like cattle and have that they all have the same culture simply has not enough knowledge about this topic because otherwise he would know how ignorant he sounds. And you think having a few Muslim friends means you do have enough knowledge? You do realize that by ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:22 PM
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En masse & to a greater extent than they are in the West? Yes, I would deny that. Interesting. Okay, that's a fair opinion to have. This is a statement that is made very often by people on the alt-right, so it does not come across as ''hyperbolic''. That wasn't the question. The question was whether you were capable of understanding when someone was using hyperbole. I don't care whether you think this was hyperbole or not, what I care about is whether you acknowledge the possibility that it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 10:17 PM
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I think that can reasonably be assumed from the statement made Why? Are you denying that women are treated like second-class citizens in Islamist countries? And are you capable of understanding when someone is using hyperbole? You're going to assume that this person has several Muslim friends and is all up to date on the issues? No, I have no idea, my whole point is that you should not make assumptions. I'm not Clearly you are in a solid position to be judging someone else's knowledge and experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 08:37 PM
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To say, "I've met a few Muslims and they were nice, therefore all the stereotypes from the media are wrong," is just as wrong as it is to say that most/all Muslims are terrorists because you see a few on the news. But more importantly, OP has no clue what the other poster's experiences are or whether they have any Muslim friends. To say, "Well since you don't share my opinion, it's obvious you're not as enlightened as me," is the pinnacle of snobby elitism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:45 PM
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Yoo In Na
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:39 PM
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The whole "hurr durr I have Muslim friends, therefore I'm right!" attitude is absolutely laughable. I don't care what arguments are being made, that's just ridiculous. It's like stating that you have a high IQ as if it constituted an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:38 PM
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Handsome guys can go years without ever being approached by a woman. When they see a Trigglypuff getting male attention, it's only natural that would cause a little resentment. That's not my reaction though. I just look at those guys and feel glad that I have more self-respect than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:23 PM
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Apologies, I misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:15 PM
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Okay first off I actually do have contact with Muslim immigrants instead of just listening to alt right fear mongering. Christ, could you be any more condescending?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:13 PM
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Do you think it's an unreasonable expectation that immigrants learn the local language and basic social values and customs? Do you consider it acceptable when Westerners move to foreign (non-Western) countries and never give a shit to learn the language or integrate with the local culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:09 PM
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Fair enough. Unfortunate for him, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 12:18 PM
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I like a girl who looks good, and I don't care what steps she took to accomplish that. A girl who takes steps to improve her appearance is much more attractive than a girl who either doesn't care enough to do so, or worse, demands that guys love her for her flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 09:04 PM
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Seriously? Average guy there looks perfectly fine except for the shit "business casual" fashion. Not fat, well-groomed, has a job. That's a step above a lot of dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 08:52 PM
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Most people are shit at taking advice. I've tried giving advice to the incel/forever alone types, and they all just respond with sarcastic remarks about how I don't understand, and that my advice is garbage. If you're in a position to judge my advice, then why are you asking for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 09:29 AM
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The only reason you don't consider them "nice" is because you think they're being manipulative or demanding of women. They're not. They're just too awkward to understand the rituals involved with becoming intimate with someone, and frustrated by the lack of results. I know feminists love the idea of "nice guys" because it justifies their thinking that disrespectful men don't get laid. But everything is wrong with that idea. "Nice guys" don't become Chads by being more respectful - they do so by …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 09:09 AM
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"Nice" is too vague. Generous, caring, considerate, polite, friendly, genuine; in these ways, I am definitely "nice". But I'm also clumsy, fairly socially awkward at times, unaware of when I say something wrong, my sarcasm can be misinterpreted as outright rudeness, I can be short-tempered, and I have a low tolerance for other people mistreating me. In these circumstances, people could think of me as not a "nice" person. At least being aware of these things enables me to try to become a better p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 09:01 AM
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Holy shit it's an entire essay of shit you completely made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 08:34 AM
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Yes and absolutely yes. Learning to make female friends and value their friendship without hoping for it to turn into something more was like a stepping stone for me to having better success with actual relationships. The problem I used to have (and a lot of "Nice Guys" still do have) is that I would immediately fall for any moderately attractive girl who spent any time with me. It's part desperation and part just not knowing how to interact with the opposite sex. I'm non-pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 11:29 PM
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Red Pillers/alt righters (yes, they are almost the same) lmao what the actual fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 11:23 PM
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a) most women do not have casual sex particularly often, if at all They do, they just never admit it. Especially the blue pills on this sub, who seem to have a vested interest in convincing people that women never have or want casual sex. b) engaging in casual sex with women or getting sex from a woman within around a few hours of meeting her at all means she is very attracted to you True, but attraction is caused by connection, and a man doesn't have to be in the top 20% to happen to have exact…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 11:12 PM
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This question doesn't apply to me, but I am going to take this opportunity to brag about how I teased and lied to guys to get free drinks and rejected all of them because that's totally hilarious and something to be proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:58 PM
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I agree with you about CBT, but you're definitely trivializing the role of a professional therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 08:14 PM
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scared What a bitch thing to say. Some people have seen what substances can do to others and just make the informed decision to not engage. Smart thing to do IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 05:51 PM
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The problem is that the comedown is so depressing. You either need more of it, or you have to deal with feeling super bummy. Isn't this the problem with all addictive substances? The comedown/hangover sucks, and once you start taking more of the substance in order to avoid withdrawal symptoms, you're basically dependent on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 05:48 PM
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What the hell point are you trying to make here? You just ignored everything I wrote just to respond with a stupid little "gotcha". Are you, or are you not, defending the shutting down of a speaking event via violent means due to disagreeable content?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 05:37 PM
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I would probably say the very first thing that would turn on a woman is a man with good physique. Just superficial, first impression, that's what does it. After that, a man who can have a conversation with the confidence to make her feel at ease and make her laugh without just trying to brag about the size of his wallet or dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 05:08 PM
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If you wanted an honest answer to what you viewed as an innocuous question, a much safer way to go would have been, "Do you think my sister is an attractive woman?" Because anyone can answer that question without necessarily having a personal investment. You can ask me if Ryan Gosling is an attractive man, and I'll say yes, even though I'm a straight dude. It's just a matter of objectivity. If you ask me, "Are you attracted to Ryan Gosling?" I'm going to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 05:00 PM
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Nice selective quoting there, leaving out the part about rioting. Real honest of you. The right to protest is protected by the First Amendment. Things that are not protected by the First Amendment include shouting and disrupting a private event, violence and rioting at protests, and physical intimidation and threats to dissuade people from attending an event. Additionally, if you think shutting down a speaking event because you don't like the content is somehow in support of free speech, regardl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 04:55 PM
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Wow, "many" feminists say that some good men actually exist? How unbelievably charitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 03:31 PM
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No but not having your events being disrupted and shut down by screeching idiot protesters and literal riots would be a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 03:25 PM
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It matters when universities have a guilty-until-proven-innocent tribunal system for rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 02:26 AM
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Why do people always respond with something like this? There's a difference between questioning rape statistics and telling someone to their face that you don't believe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 02:20 AM
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But it doesn't. Yes, they do. You sitting there saying, "Nuh uh", doesn't mean real much to those of us who know the frustration of debating with feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 01:51 AM
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That's only because anti-feminists can't read and they base their opinion on what they think it means instead of what feminists actually say. This is what happens when you use slimy terminology like "patriarchy" and "toxic masculinity" that changes based on whatever is convenient for the conversation you happen to be having at the time. If you don't want people confusing your terminology, why don't you come up with self-explanatory terminology with rigid definitions? If people don't understand t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 12:19 AM
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You missed my point. As an exaggerated example, say 100% of women say they refuse to date the bottom 30% of men. Each woman individually feels that her standards are more than reasonable, since it still leaves 70% to choose from. But just mathematically speaking, there will be a shortage of eligible men. So you're right, wanting someone college-educated is not an unreasonable standard, but seeing the number of women who view it as a non-negotiable bare minimum, that could cause issues. And the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 09:19 AM
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Yep. There's absolutely not a shortage of men overall. But single, college-educated, straight men over 6 feet? That's not too much to ask, right? It is when every woman sets that as her "bare minimum" standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 07:18 AM
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So you're pretty close in age to me. I don't think the personality you portray is fake as much as it seems manufactured. It's every teenager's dream to be somehow exceptional, different ... a snowflake, you might even say. And you sound like the result of someone who dedicated all their time since then to gather evidence to rationally prove that they really are special. Yes! You make lots of money, and you're everyone's intellectual superior! Congratulations! If that was your goal in life, you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 02:49 AM
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Thanks for the thought-out reply. I do agree that judges can be trusted on this matter much more than the average person, but I just don't have the same level of faith that you do that laws like this won't be abused. Popular people, views, groups, and ideas will just be far more likely to be defended than unpopular ones. Nobody has perfect objectivity, not even judges. Additionally, how do political views that are also racist fit into this? What if I were to get up on a platform and say, "My bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 01:00 AM
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So patriarchy is bad for men because it requires men to support women. If women can support themselves in a society... I'm assuming you don't think that means it's not a patriarchy anymore? What other aspects are there, and to be a little more relevant to this thread, aspects that negatively affect men? I'm honestly not trying to straw-man your position here. My struggle with this debate is that the word "patriarchy" always seems to mean "whatever the fuck is convenient for the context of this d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 12:35 AM
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I don't know how old you are, but are you aware that you come across as having the maturity of an edgy 16-year-old? You sound like you view yourself as a fucking Bond villain and it's just cringey.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 12:20 AM
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Yup, my biggest problem is that the number of hot girls seems to be declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 12:12 AM
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They could go hand in hand, but why would the men of the working class give a fuck? Do you think the 99% of men who are not in the ruling class give two shits that the men in the ruling class have more power than the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 12:08 AM
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Could be! And as long as we're allowed to make arguments like that, then we might as well shut down feminism because I will make that same statement about men for every inequality feminists complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:55 PM
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Not RP here, but definitely anti-feminist, and I don't entirely disagree with your assessment. The ones who care about men's rights are MRAs. The ones who hate abortion are pro-life advocates. The ones who advocate heavily for the equality of the sexes while still rejecting feminism often call themselves egalitarians. Then there are people like me, who aren't particularly dedicated activists to any one cause, but just think feminism is just really off its rocker. It's not accurate to say I "have…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:53 PM
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as evidenced by graduation rates at all levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:43 PM
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Off the top of my head, Western academics heavily favor women these days, as evidenced by graduation rates at all levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:42 PM
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That is a question that depends entirely on one's personal values and morality. Just because one doesn't feel an "obligation" to help others in a specific way doesn't mean that person won't choose to do so regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:37 PM
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You just described an oligarchy, not a patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:32 PM
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Interesting. I have a couple follow-up questions. They aren't intended as "gotchas", and I'm not trying to be antagonistic or anything, just things that I'm concerned about when it comes to legal restrictions on "hate speech". Does that apply equally across all ethnicities, genders, etc.? (i.e. it doesn't specifically apply to "marginalized" groups, but all?) Would religion be included in those protected classes? What about political affiliation? If yes to either one or both of these, how do add…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:28 PM
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Just out of curiosity, how would you define "hate speech"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 10:58 PM
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This is really pathetic on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 09:15 PM
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Eh, as someone who works in software, I'm inclined to disagree. There's definitely a disproportionate number of guys who are any combination of awkward, overweight, poorly dressed, etc. Check out any upper-division computer science class. Of course there are normal people, but there tends to be an unusually high number of weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 07:42 PM
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Congratulations, you just got me to stare at the weiner lines of two 50+ year old politicians for way too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:42 PM
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Interesting, the fit looks completely different on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:25 PM
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Is that even a fashion? I thought it was a "I just got out of bed and couldn't even be bothered to put on pants" look. Gym is forgivable, you wear whatever is comfortable there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:23 PM
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Cargo shorts are the dad jeans of the Millennial generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:20 PM
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3-4 times a day is obsessive for sure haha, is that even healthy? It's not. Overly aggressive brushing can cause gum recession, which requires a gum graft surgery to fix. http://www.colgate.com/en/us/oc/oral-health/conditions/gum-disease/article/receding-gums-and-treatment-and-causes-0214
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:08 PM
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those really tight sweatpants that are making a comeback What are these? I'm picturing Russians wearing tracksuits or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:59 PM
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Target has a lot of shit clothes, but they also have some really excellent, fashionable stuff for stupid cheap. I get my polos there for like $12 instead of $30 at Gap or H&M, and they look pretty much the same. They also have good long-sleeve shirts, v-necks, cardigans, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:58 PM
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Mom jeans have this weird "HEY CHECK OUT MY FUPA" look to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:54 PM
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Romney's definitely sporting the mom jeans, but Obama's look more like dad jeans to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:52 PM
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Constantly checking her phone, unable to put it down for more than 5 seconds. If you're not going to respect my time and actually spend it talking and interacting with me, I'm not going to waste it on you. Define herself by her political or religious beliefs. I'll happily date a feminist, but if the first line in your dating profile is, "I'm an outspoken feminist," I'm out of there as fast as possible. Hold your beliefs, defend your beliefs, fight for your beliefs all you want, but at least have…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:46 PM
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Same here. "The only way to win the game is not to play," is the kind of thing losers always say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:25 PM
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Wanting kids seems fine with me, but as a self-respecting man, I will never date a single mother. Her child is the living embodiment of "baggage", and you know, from the start, that the highest priority you could ever potentially be in her life is #2.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:19 PM
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Nobody cares whether you think men care about these issues. Even if they didn't, that wouldn't change the fact that they exist, so you have not refuted anything at all. Ironically, all you have done is put forth a "gotcha" point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 04:39 PM
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That's not rape culture, that's hysteria that results when you perpetuate bullshit like "rape culture".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 04:35 PM
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Probably fine. There are two kinds of feminists: the "Am I a feminist? Uhhh, sure, I believe in equality why not?" And the other kind, who...well, don't worry, they'll let you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 04:32 PM
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Really depends. When I was 18, awkward, never been with a girl, and had no idea how to talk to girls? No, I was not happy to be in the friend zone. Now, much later, much more mature and experienced? I very much value my female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:29 PM
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As a fairly traditionally masculine man, shoot me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:27 PM
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Agreed, only in redpill or cringey incel circles is this something sought-out. The way I see it, if she hasn't given it up for every guy she's met in her life up until now, what are the odds she'll find me so special that I'll be the one? It's more than likely a waste of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:26 PM
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Yeah I don't think "handsome" ever has any negative connotation. It's clearly better to be handsome than to not be handsome. It's just what I would expect my grandma to call me - hearing it from a woman of the same age feels very friend-zoney.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:22 PM
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I sit at a computer desk and stare at a screen for my profession. I guarantee you my job is ruining my health.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 07:11 AM
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I don't know if I prefer Nicki Minaj and her massive curves over Ariana Grande and her child likeness. To each his own, but this is an absolute no brainer to me. I think Ariana is drop-dead gorgeous, one of the most beautiful celebs I've seen in a while, while I find almost nothing appealing about Nicki Minaj.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 07:08 AM
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It's almost as if healthy balance is preferred.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 07:06 AM
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I'm more attracted to smaller women. Just my thing. And if I'm being blunt, there's not a chance I will ever date a girl who's more than a little overweight. It's not attractive to me, so it would require a level of desperation that I don't imagine myself ever getting to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 07:04 AM
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Wow, it sure didn't take much prodding for you to show your true nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 11:20 PM
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just treat our bodies like they belong to us, not to you thx. Yeah, and feminism is just about equality, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 11:09 PM
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There's a difference between showing basic respect (i.e. not being disrespectful) and having an earned respect for someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 11:04 PM
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Sure, if there are laws present that create barriers preventing women from making the same choices as men, then removing them would promote choice. If you can name any such laws still in effect, I'll agree they should go.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 06:29 PM
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That one's automatically inserted at #1 when you identify as cis female.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:33 PM
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If I didn't filter out my Facebook feed, it would be like 25% SJW crap and the rest pictures of food. I think the absolute most extreme is probably limited to Tumblr and SRS, but I definitely see a lot of this in my inner circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:20 PM
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The problem comes with feminists trying to have their cake and eat it too. Either: 1) The genders are identical, which means we can know that any disparities between them, such as average pay, educational attainment, representation in positions of power, etc., is environmental and/or the result of discrimination. We should therefore work to minimize all disparities. 2) The genders do in fact have innate biological differences, which means that disparities in society could potentially be the resu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 08:12 PM
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I've seen this before. Person A states an opinion. Person B rewords Person A's opinion in a slightly less generous, but still mostly accurate representation. Person A feels strawmanned, so they hyperbolize the extent of Person B's representation, essentially strawmanning their own argument. It tends to happen when a person's argument is very flimsy and only sounds plausible when phrased in a very specific and generous manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 06:52 PM
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When you say "the music industry is failing," are you referring to the recording industry? Because there's never been an easier time in history for an indie musician to get exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 06:45 PM
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This is exactly why it bugs me when feminists claim that the solution to men's issues is more feminism. Any time you bring up a issue men face, it's responded to with "Well women have it worse." Male rape an issue? Women are raped more. More women graduate from college? Men still make more money. No support for male victims of domestic violence? Well women are abused more. And so when men try to form their own groups to address issues that feminists completely ignore or just refuse to discuss, t…
/r/MensRights13/06/15 07:56 PM
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You come across as a preachy douche. Not everyone can or wants to be a gym rat, and lifting weights simply is not for everyone. It's not the only way to be healthy. Sorry dude, but you did a terrible job trying to get your point across. If you have an opinion, share it, and leave it alone. But you kept coming back, responding to completely innocuous comments, and goading people into an angry response. At that point, it doesn't matter how "right" you are; you're just being an asshole.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/14 05:45 PM
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I think OP was referring not to people who claim to have an ethnicity, but rather those who let their ethnicity define them as a person. People who feel like they have to "protect their own", or spend an inordinate amount of time promoting interests or causes for their own ethnicity. I'm also quite turned off by these types of people. This goes beyond ethnicity, too. Religion, sex, political ideology, etc. Anyone who lets any of these qualities define them as a person is not someone I'm likely t…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 09:18 AM
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Can you elaborate on this please?
/r/TheRedPill28/06/14 12:28 PM
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Sorry. My sarcasmeter is broken today.
/r/MensRights07/10/10 07:20 PM
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Actually, he seems very apologetic about his actions to me. I agree that you don't have to solve problems with violence. I've never punched anyone in my life, and I could never see myself hitting someone out of anger or even self-defense. That's just the kind of person I am. That said, if somehow I got so angry that I hit someone, I would gladly take 100 punches to the jaw before going through a long legal process that will likely end up with me going to jail and a felony permanently on my recor…
/r/MensRights07/10/10 07:19 PM
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My legal knowledge is not too strong, but doesn't the two-party rule only apply when there is an expectation of privacy? And, by default, isn't there no expectation of privacy in a public setting?
/r/MensRights07/10/10 07:06 PM
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I even like a few women as good people. Was this a joke? (sorry, I honestly can't tell)
/r/MensRights07/10/10 07:04 PM
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What you did wasn't assault; it was self-defense.
/r/MensRights07/10/10 06:54 PM
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Wooooooooooooow...... She was hitting me. But I'm bigger. I hit her hard and hurt her real bad. She sure dun learned her a lesson that day. I never had to beat her again. If you see someone who is bigger than you, chances are you do not want to be in a fight with that person. You might piss off someone who is bigger than you, but you know that person could easily beat your ass, so in general, you do not someone who is bigger than you. In the scenario AnnArchist described, his girlfriend was rely…
/r/MensRights07/10/10 06:52 PM
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I think he's just saying that foreign women are less materialistically demanding than American women. Having a few cool things is a major bonus to non-Americans, while it's expected here in America. He's not saying you can buy a foreign girlfriend with a few cool trinkets, he's just saying the material expectations are much lower. I'm not sure whether I agree with that, but I think that was what he was trying to say.
/r/MensRights06/10/10 10:22 PM
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I was a scout for a couple years, and in retrospect, the religious propaganda is disturbing, but we at least learned some really cool, really useful stuff. In particular, we learned all about the usefulness of Swiss Army Knives. WTF do they do these days?
/r/MensRights10/09/09 05:35 AM
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That's what I'm doing, but that won't stop me from being disappointed.
/r/MensRights10/09/09 03:27 AM
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I understand that, but if you take any given man versus any given woman, you have no guarantee that the man is better. Which is why it's unfair that, no matter the situation, I'm not allowed to block her shot simply because she's female. I wouldn't mind playing if they simply gave more points to females scoring, but like I said, they're taking away from my game. EDIT: For the record, I'm not the one downvoting you.
/r/MensRights10/09/09 02:24 AM
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It still bugs me that judges have that kind of power. "I don't like what you're saying, so I'm throwing you in jail."
/r/MensRights10/09/09 02:08 AM
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First off, what do you mean it "evens the playing field"? Isn't that like saying women are inherently worse at sports? I don't believe that. But my main concern is that the game I'm playing is no longer basketball. In basketball, if the person with the ball is shooting, you go up to block the shot. I can't do that here. If you steal the ball, you run it back and lay it up for a quick two points. I can't do that here. They're not only changing the rules in favor of women, but they're taking away …
/r/MensRights10/09/09 01:59 AM
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According to these rules, I'm not even allowed to make a fucking layup.
/r/MensRights10/09/09 12:22 AM
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