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Male pornstars are disgusting degenerates too, what's your argument now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:57 AM
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Plenty of well-adjusted girls with kinks and a high sex drive. Not really lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:56 AM
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I'm not even getting into the metaphysics or morality of sex. I'm saying even the practicality of masturbation is impossible to replicate when you're having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:10 PM
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If it walks and talks like a duck its probably a duck Fallacy of association. "Hitler wore shirts, if you wear a shirt, you must be a Nazi. "Abusive incels call out women's behaviour, if you call out women's behaviour, you must be an abusive incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:48 PM
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do have attractive, genuine, wholesome personalities. It's always sociopathic, narcissistic, exploitative, misogynistic, abusive, arrogant, bullying, etc. personalities They may, they may not, the point is it's irrelevant compared to your status, and looks. The ability to socially dominate is the only part of your personality that genuinely matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:44 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:55 AM
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Sex is as complicated as masturbation It's literally 50 times more complicated. My girlfriend is not a masturbatory tool, otherwise sex would have been much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:52 AM
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I'm glad you're not denying anything I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:01 AM
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Women use the internet more than men. Women also dominate platforms like TikTok, Instagram, Tumblr, Snapchat, Pinterest, WattPad, AO3, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:00 AM
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This is ridiculous, Reddit isn't just filled with extreme leftists democrats. It's literally the biggest safe haven on the internet for actual communists/socialists and has the largest amount of unironic tankies as well as extremist LGBT allies and critical theorists. Like, this shouldn't even be a debate, Reddit admins have been repeatedly targeting the biggest conservative subreddits, and outright banned the most prolific one. The RightCantMeme has half a million subs whereas TheLeftCantMeme b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:57 AM
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Reddit's user base is inherently right wing. How is this possible when Reddit is arguably the biggest socialist and LGBT haven on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:50 AM
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Asking who—man or woman—is the gatekeeper is LITERALLY asking for a binary. I think you're confusing binary with false dichotomy. At any rate, this is like arguing that employers are not the gatekeepers of job positions. is not a good one is because it implies that one gender COMPLETELY controls who gets sex. Incorrect, in the same way that employers do not have unilateral control over who works where, as there are multiple employers with differing interests, it does not then mean that employers…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:59 PM
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Both have equal bargaining power. In the hypothetical I described can you explain to me how the man has an equal supply of sex as the woman has for expensive dinners? However, you're going right back to my original OP: Why are women to blame for having more options when all the woman does is exist, while OTHER MEN are the ones giving her those options. Simply put, he who has more authority is more responsible for the negative externality of their actions. Women have more authority in the dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:36 PM
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If the fundamental goal is reproduction, which you yourself just admitted, then why do you think efforts to increase one's value (education and fitness) are not tied to the one and only fundamental goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:17 PM
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What is the unstated evolutionary goal of any species?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:52 PM
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one side is not wholly responsible for this action. Who here is claiming it's a binary 1-0 other than you? One party being a gatekeeper does not imply that they have complete authority. It implies they have more authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:46 PM
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Then you can't really know unless if you ask him directly and he answers honestly (never gonna happen in a million years).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:44 PM
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However, when it comes to "who controls when we have sex", there is not. Both parties must consent, or it is rape. So to be clear, in your worldview the only means of control rest upon your ability to consent or to not consent? Here I'll make it simple for you; Man matches with a girl on Tinder, girl on Tinder requests an expensive dinner in exchange for sex, man complies (consent has been established). Man on average matches with 5 girls a week (generous), woman on average matches with 30 guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:43 PM
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This saying is so weird to me because y’all make it sound like men have zero agency in the dynamics of relationships Just because in your built up assumed strawman, this is the hypothetical argument you're debating against, it doesn't actually mean that's what I'm saying. So, again, who are the gatekeepers of relationships and sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:11 PM
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Can you justify why a party must lose complete control (to the point of non-consent) in order for there to be inequality, as opposed to only some control?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:53 PM
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I mean I completely disagree with that sentiment, but I don't find it to be irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:37 PM
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If he doesn't care about losing you, he'll show it through his behaviour. One of the best ways to parse that is to try to gauge how he treated his first girlfriend Vs how he treats you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:33 PM
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Are men and women equally in control of their sexual and relationship status?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:24 PM
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Who is the gatekeeper of sex and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:07 PM
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Tfw you think human biology is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 12:16 PM
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Because men have zero standards. Okay and? This is literally biologically ingrained. I would argue that women are more responsible for the current dating market as they are the gatekeepers of sex and relationships, and I would argue that's how it's always been throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 12:10 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 12:08 PM
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It's like these people live in a different reality lmao Andrew Tate can literally walk in the nearest university and 99% of the liberal l, blue-haired progressives there will want to fuck him, it's honestly hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:54 AM
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The holocaust was not positively perceived even in Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:31 AM
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Then I'm sorry but you literally can't be helped. Imagine not caring about the fact that the mother of your children is prostituting and degrading herself on the internet, and by proxy, also degrading you and your children. I honestly just can't understand it, do you not care about what your parents think? Or your grandparents? Or your children's friends? Like Jesus Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:48 PM
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In this hypothetical do you or do you not care about your wife's history?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:24 PM
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I fucking wish to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:21 AM
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Your wife and the mother of your children was an onlyfans pornstar with hundreds of thousands of followers, your children will be able to see their mother prostituting herself with the click of a button. Okay so far? If so, we can take it up a step further.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:33 AM
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What? Age does not necessitate lower fertility in all women, it's definitely a general issue, but it's not impossible. And when it comes to looks, dawg, Mila Kunis looks better than 90% of the girls in my uni.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:09 AM
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Okay, let me rephrase it, are the 40 and 20 year olds equally attractive? And equally fertile? Because averages don't really paint an accurate picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:26 PM
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I could never give a fuck about someone’s past. Just for funsies, how far are you willing to take this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:23 PM
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Are all else equal (looks, fertility)?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:22 PM
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anyone who isn't holding progressive views is unnecessarily handicapping themselves. Coupled with; Just do the right thing, stop oppressing others. Maybe edit your statement then if that's not what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:22 PM
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Why do you consider holding progressive views a positive if you're not leaning towards progressivism?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:04 PM
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Most tolerant progressive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:00 PM
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Do you consider getting arrested for hate speech a form of oppression?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:54 PM
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Conservativism is when you want to oppress people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:29 AM
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the amount of men having sex is way more than they try catastrophizing Sorry, what? How many report having sex once per year, how many men report approaching women? Is the average age of virginity going up or down? How many are entering relationships? Do the US first, then do its sociological future brother, Japan. Let's see if we're exaggerating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:25 PM
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A post pandemic overcorrection year with a 30% inapplicable rate (55% for 2022) is a statistically significant trend-ending year for you? the average being less than 7 and that’s the high end. The CDC lists it as 4.3. Does this average include 60+ year old women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:14 PM
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What data did you give to indicate the trend is over?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:13 PM
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Correct, 2018, 2021 and 2022 all had a much higher rating than average, which would make them outlier years. When looking at every normal year from 2008-2020, women outperformed men in having sex. If you wish to consider post pandemic overcorrections with 30-50% inapplicable rating to be indicative of anything, that is your perogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:11 PM
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So the only post-pandemic year shows a differing stat and you think this indicates an ending trend?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:08 PM
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Fortunately, they have updated the chart back in 2021! As you can see from the most recent data, sexlessness in men has gone down and actually sexlessness in women is now higher! Quick question, do you mind mentioning the "inapplicable rate for 2021" against say, 2019, or 2018?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:05 PM
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Is there a comparable year after it that shows women have more sex than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:04 PM
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Unhappiness rates, depression rates, anti-depressant consumption rates, attempted suicide rates, regular suicide rate, reported loneliness, average age of marriage, average age of childbearing, etc. All of which are going up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:53 PM
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That's why the men are fucked up and we need to enforce male chastity. Yes and yes, but not for the reasons your probably believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:52 PM
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The average for women is less than 7. My link has no implication on the number of women having a lot of sex. If you want to discuss, feel free to tell me the average body count of young women. men were having more casual sex than women. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:51 PM
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Was I commentating on the video or OP's comment on Western women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:30 PM
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Huh? What do you think happens if people have a lot of sex long term?? https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499.2013.772088 And how on earth do you know how much sex the women in the video are having? OP is referring to Western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:29 PM
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Belief in what specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:28 PM
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What are you referring to when you say they're fine? Because outside of a disproportionate cornering of the sexual marketplace they are absolutely not doing fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:26 PM
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Western women are doing just fine. Copious amounts of sex is only fine in the short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:16 PM
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Brother he doesn't even write his own shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:56 PM
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I can women have penises that doesn't make my opinion correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:48 AM
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he has incredible wordplay What the actual fuck? Drake peaked with If You're Reading This, but even at his best he was just "okay" lyrically.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:47 AM
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I'd break his arm for it. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:09 PM
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I'm not gonna say they're wrong because they look like retards, no. Especially in a debate subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 08:11 PM
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Yes? If a Nazi says the Earth isn't flat, does his character render his argument incorrect?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:57 PM
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This is only true if they have low self-esteem Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:53 PM
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It sounds like you agree with me that nice actions motivated by sex are still nice actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:26 AM
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What is your definition of confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:20 AM
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This is why confidence is a meme. I'm extremely self-assured in my ability to win a Warhammer tabletop match, and will proudly express it. Obviously, because women like Confidence ™, they'll be attracted to my Warhammer pride, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:19 AM
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Confidence in what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:17 AM
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Dude - it’s just a warmed over version of the same bullshit that’s been dribbling out of the incontinent ringhole of the PUA/Redpill community for well over 20 years now. What were the arguments he made?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:17 AM
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And Diogenes used to shit in the streets. This is a classic ad hominem fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:16 AM
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Most people do not want to be mistreated though. Most people prefer mistreatment over loneliness. This is not a problem bytheway, it should be intuitively obvious that we've evolved to prefer staying in a questionable tribe than die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:29 AM
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You are presuming men are happy single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:24 AM
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What's the rate of young men entering relationships again?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:19 AM
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How old are you and what's your BMI? Also, what country do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:18 AM
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The reasons why women won't approach are tied to behavioural epigenetics, there exists no society in human history where women were peacocking for male attention en masse. If it doesn't happen for biological reasons, then you can't expect to mold society in a way that violates their biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:17 AM
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if you love being by yourself What does this mean? Loneliness is an emotion and could even happen to people who are in a relationship. No, loneliness is a state of being, fundamentally, people who feel alone despite being in a relationship are as delusional as people who feel poor despite having millions of dollars in their bank account. It's why we don't refer to isolated people on islands hallucinating other people with them as "accompanied". It's one of my main gripes with people who try to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:13 AM
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You'd rather be with someone crazy who will fuck up your life than stay alone? Yes, and I will go as far as to make the claim that any rational human should prefer an unhealthy relationship (within reason) over nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:08 AM
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Men who demand chastity yet want to put as many notches in their belt as possible. Women who demand modern sensibilities and then get turned off when their boyfriend does something that’s not perfectly masculine. I don't understand how are these are comparable? One is about dimorphism in measuring sexual success, whereas one is about contradicting wants for a high value partner. I think a better comparison would be; Men who want to provide and be traditional but expect women to pay on the first …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:07 AM
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Behavioural epigenetics would suggest that at least 50% of our personality is genetically determined. Using various empirical data acquisition techniques like twin studies and GWAS. This is extremely controversial, as modern psychology, and western society as a whole, is choke full with social constructivists who would rather gaslight people (and themselves, let's be real) into believing that they are special and have agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:15 PM
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So yeah people who benefit from the dating status quo are going to support the status quo, and people who don't benefit will blame the dating game. This is assumes that blue pillers are benefitting from the status quo, blue pillers are just ignorant of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:12 PM
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They weren't liberal, Lol define liberal then. And culturally enforced is not the same as legally enforced. Okay and? The effects are still same, women who didn't adhere to gender roles and partake in the maintenance of the traditional family were shunned and ostracized, usually by other women, and no man wanted to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:11 AM
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99% of humans are racist, even progressives think black people aren't as good as white people lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:45 AM
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Due to a catastrophic extinction level event, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:43 AM
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Perhaps men should try to actually be partners women It's feminist propaganda to make the unsubstantiated claim that historically the vast majority of women were unhappy with the partners that they were with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:24 AM
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Women don’t follow the mentality of people like Andrew Tate and never will and women control the dating market. If the vast majority of Gen Z start leaning conservative, what do you think is gonna happen when they get into politics and/or hold executive positions in major corporations (which are disproportionately male dominated)? Also, young women are increasingly foregoing the label of feminist as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:18 AM
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That's because the only thing that would "help" is forcing women to have children they don't want, which would never be permitted in a liberal democracy. You do realise most liberal democracies have had culturally enforced monogamy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:16 AM
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most japanese women are also working. Yes, and this isn't a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:10 AM
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The only argument I see is that "dude the stats aren't showing a major trend but trust me bro its coming and it'll be completely different than all past trends." Lol love how you contradict yourself in your final paragraph; Yes in the past that'd be 'by 25-30' where now it's pushed back to 35-40.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:06 AM
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Are single men in their twenties not representative of average young men in Japan?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:42 PM
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It's not misinformation, so no. And add in the fact that around 60% of young Japanese men have had sex? I'm not sure how adding that 40% of Japanese men are virgins is supposed to be a +1 for you. How many times have they had sex in the past year again?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:33 PM
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I was very clear in not using the word "working". I said labour participation. Female gender roles include actual work, like house caring, childrearing, and nurturing, which is absolutely stressful and strenuous. There is nothing preventing women from working in offices and sedentary service sectors, there are however dire consequences, such as a low birth rate. There are career fields where women will have a plain physiological disadvantage, like in trade. Psychological differences include; Hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:31 PM
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Among respondents in their thirties, 35.5% of men and 27.0% of women were in a similar situation. And what was the singledom rate like for that generation 10 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:20 PM
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Lol, love how you didn't mention the part where you were incorrect in implying that single men do not in fact represent the average young man. In a survey conducted in 2021, 65.8% of men and 51.8% of women in their twenties said that they had “no spouse or partner.” https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h01361/#:~:text=In%20a%20survey%20conducted%20in,were%20in%20a%20similar%20situation. Young men in general are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:19 PM
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South Korea will disappear, the conservative North will probably cross the DMZ and take it over assuming their birth rates aren't also wildly dropping.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:17 PM
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I asked a pretty simple question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:50 PM
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You're implying that half the population for 5000+ years was oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:44 PM
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Clearly societies that do this have low birth rates, and thus speed run their collapse. Whilst pATrIaRChAL societies with low female labour participation rates don't. So yes, there is preventative pressure against them participating in the labour market. Nature decides gender roles? Yes. Gender roles are the natural consequence of the physical and innate psychological differences in men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:44 PM
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Link the article so I can fully read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:36 PM
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Yes, Japanese offices have computers after all, and Japanese men tend to spend a significant portion of their day at the office.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:34 PM
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Can you be specific on the "conservative" social practices of the modern day Japanese.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:33 PM
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Yeah right, not the toxic 666 culture, not the drinking and sleeping at work culture, How many hours do you think the average Egyptian works?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:32 PM
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So, in your mind, any country that doesn't have an HDI comparable to Luxembourg, and Switzerland is a shit hole? Talk about privilege lmao France's GDP/PPP is 46k. Saudi Arabia's GDP/PPP is at 59k. The average person living in "shit hole" Saudi Arabia can afford to buy more shit than the average frenchman. If you want, we can start comparing crime rates too, let's see if Europe comes out ahead lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:31 PM
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Modern 2020+ Japanese culture is, mostly, very conservative still. 70% of Japanese people are weekly/monthly Shinto practitioners. Lol, you are misreading your own stats. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Japan According to estimates, as many as 80% of the populace follow Shinto rituals to some degree, worshiping ancestors and spirits at domestic altars and public shrines. This is like claiming that France is a fervently religious christian nation because they wear crosses around their…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:25 PM
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Japan is a conservative shit hole In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:19 PM
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I don't have to make you do anything, patriarchal and conservative Christians, Muslims, Africans, South Americans, etc, will replace you. Nature doesn't care about your egalitarian ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:18 PM
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*nature decides. You are absolutely free to become a feminist, your kids (should you choose to have any), will be surrounded by Muslim patriarchs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:17 PM
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Japan isn't particularly feminist The female labor-force participation rate in Japan rose to 74 percent in 2022 from 63 percent in 2012.. For comparison, the US's at 53% use more social media than in other countries. Well, yes, but 18-30 Japanese men have an extremely high amount of screen time presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:00 PM
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You like retiring?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:53 AM
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Men and women should not be doing what they want, they should be confined to their gender roles, or their societies will die off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:52 AM
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KSA HDI (2021) = 0.875. Portugal HDI (2021) = 0.863.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:51 AM
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You misspelled capitalism. Capitalism in the U.S peaked in the guilded era, pretty sure the birth rate wasn't catastrophic like it is now. Also, Europe's birth rate pre and post their welfarist policies speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:35 AM
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As the cost of living goes up, people know they won't be able to afford another kid. Then how come countries with the highest poverty levels have high birth rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:34 AM
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Yes, education, female participation in the workforce, and religiosity, all heavily contribute to a dropping birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:30 AM
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Saudi Arabia has a higher HDI than a lot of European countries, Philippines unironically is awful though, it's a developing country.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:20 AM
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Yes, that's what is being said in Japan, the higher cost of living. Not feminism. This doesn't jive with the economic reality of the country. <image> Japanese PPP has gone up in the past 40 years, whereas the birth rate has been continuously dropping. In addition, nominal and real wages have been consistent since the 90s, whereas the birth rate has been continuously dropping. We Indians have like the highest population in the world and the employment of women has risen. There hasn't been a singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:18 AM
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Causality can be established with heavily correlated evidence and counter-evidence. We can objectively observe that in (+95% of cases) nations with high religiosity, low feminism, and high/low PPP, have a high birth rate. Whereas nations with low religiosity, high feminism, and high/low PPP, have a low birth rate. Do you deny this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:05 AM
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It's probably not a statistically significant variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:59 AM
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<image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:57 AM
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Why care about articles when you can look at actual statistics? Saudi Arabia, Niger, Yemen, Iraq, Pakistan, Egypt, Philippines, Morocco, etc, all countries with above replacement fertility rate. All countries have a low female workforce participation rate. https://www.demographic-research.org/articles/volume/43/25#:~:text=Results%3A%20Women's%20wage%20employment%20is,in%20every%20major%20world%20region. Women's wage employment is negatively correlated with total fertility rates and unmet need fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:56 AM
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Conservative values? If the Japanese were actually conservative like the Middle-East they would still be having kids. Japanese men and women barely care about their Shinto traditions, they don't care about perpetuating the extended family, etc, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:47 AM
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A whole host of reasons. Main ones being social media, and feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:38 AM
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<image> Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:34 AM
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People are forgoing LTRs in their 20s now, but by 40 they're happily married or in a LTR. Lol no, the 40+ age cohort isn't predictive to how current young men will be in the future. Simply because the phenomenon of young men being this sexless and lonely hasn't happened in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:38 AM
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I only drink it when I haven't slept in 2 days. I'll never understand people who drink it like it's fucking coffee
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:00 PM
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Yet the majority aren't virgins, which is evidence of the reality that men are approaching women in some capacity. Lmao at 42% being virgins, which is already way higher than in the US, or any other Western country. And what's the stat on the second biggest cohort, which is 1 sexual partner per year? Really? You've never lived there and have no firsthand experience with the culture? Could've fooled me. Since you ignored the rest of the comment, I'll just explain it to you in another, less logica…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:37 AM
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In a survey conducted in 2021, 65.8% of men and 51.8% of women in their twenties said that they had “no spouse or partner.” https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h01361/#:~:text=In%20a%20survey%20conducted%20in,were%20in%20a%20similar%20situation. Young men in general are single. Do you by any chance have experience living in Japan which corroborates or contradicts this? No, and anecdotal evidence doesn't contradict or prove anything if it's; a) Impossible to justify. b) Isn't statistically signi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:13 AM
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Lmao imagine thinking being a male feminist makes you more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:01 AM
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Do you have one that proves that Japanese men are better at reading non-verbal signals on average specifically when it comes to approaching women? Keeping in mind that, culturally speaking, 60% of men in their 20s are considered herbivore men over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:48 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:35 AM
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And it's completely possible that Japan has lost that ability considering the digitisation of their society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:34 AM
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Brother, Japanese men are literally inceling their way into a societal collapse. I seriously question the notion that Japanese men are "better" at reading signals simply because Japanese men are less likely to attract women than Western men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:23 AM
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main trait of psychopath is lack of empathy. This isn't settled science whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:00 PM
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Lmao, why are you limiting it to movies past 2019? Scared we're gonna find a historical trend?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:48 PM
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Overpopulation is a proven myth. https://www.tomorrow.city/and-what-shall-we-do-with-grandad-smart-cities-tackling-the-challenge-of-an-ageing-population/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:09 PM
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They're broke due to spending habits, not because they literally don't have money though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:50 PM
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Buddy, it was very commonly promoted that a literal dwarf can land a model if he's "funny and charming". There's still people out there who think leagues don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:46 PM
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Dual mating strategy. Also status>looks>personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:53 PM
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But there’s a healthy kind of “wanting” and an unhealthy kind of “wanting”. What the fuck does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:52 PM
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Pretty privilege and women are wonderful effect; you know, actual proven psychological phenomenons. Women are less likely to be targeted simply because they are women. This is also why they receive less punishment for the same crimes in the court system.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:08 PM
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Can you show the link between what you just said and what I asked you to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:58 PM
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Gang activity, substance abuse, failure to take precautions, far less home and family responsibilities... Are you speculating, or do you actually have evidence showing that these are the only reasons why men get targeted more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:57 PM
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This is what I said; Women react more emotionally all over the emotional spectrum. This is what all three studies I posted show in their dataset. Do you deny this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:56 PM
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select as an object of attention or attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:31 PM
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Because no one likes being filtered?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:30 PM
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men get hurt doing dangerous activities Prove that this is the main reason why the victimisation rate is higher in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:30 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15053728/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12934688/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4928818/#pone.0158666.ref003 Gohier et al. [8] adopted a priming paradigm and found that negative stimuli reduce the priming effects on women. They explained that women are more sensitive to negative stimuli, and this heightened sensitivity interferes with their processing of negative stimuli. Electrophysiological studies have shown that women exhibit greater galvanic …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:29 PM
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Do you deny that women filter men based on what they say and do? It's a simple question really.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:28 PM
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Women are far less likely to take those risks and are far more likely to be pregnant, nursing, or responsible for home and family care. Most women don't just hop out of bed at three in the morning and walk through the worst neighborhoods in search of prostitutes or crack, ya know? Crime stats are exceedingly clear on this, not sure why men feel they are targeted for violent crimes, when they are the people most likely to go where crime happens and participate in criminal behavior. Have you consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:25 PM
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Shit testing is simply filtering, which can be done through flirtations, so your question kinda doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:23 PM
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Because being a liberal feminist is so gonna help your chances, right? This is what Vaush's girlfriend looks like lmao https://images.app.goo.gl/fasAapd1Cmg9Gz9m8 This is Matt Walsh's (right wing commentator's) wife https://images.app.goo.gl/Fwpu5nubuSxdf7Dx5 And these are millionaire celebrities with huge followings who can probably score any woman in their sphere of influence, yet Vaush still ends up with an absolute pig. We can do this with Destiny, Idubbz, or any other famous left-wing male …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:17 PM
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If a man is so hypersensitive he can't handle flirting and teasing, I rule him out for sure, but it isn't a "shit test" it's an obvious mismatch in a sense of fun by a wildly paranoid and asocial man who doesn't grok social cues. My sister in Christ you just defined a shit test. You can feel free to post-hoc rationalize it as "we weren't compatible" or whatever the fuck, but that's just another figure of speech that echoes the sentiment of what a shit test is. I honestly think you're just offend…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:08 PM
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Women fear for their safety. Women should be just as paranoid as men when it comes to their safety, considering men are far more likely to get victimised violently than women are. But they're not, they're far more paranoid, which doesn't make sense until you realise that women are more likely to be neurotic than men by their very nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:02 PM
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Women are more likely to react emotionally all over the emotional spectrum, that includes anger. Claiming otherwise is unscientific.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:00 PM
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Convinced women “shit test” them Lol even the bluest of pills will admit to shit testing being a thing, it's literally the most basic form of filtering women have, and a lot of them do it subconsciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:58 PM
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Hey Siri, pull up the number of matriarchal societies that survived.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:40 AM
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No? The point is that there is a stark difference between male and female libido, which there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:35 AM
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Well I don't know about religion, but men are 100% trending conservative; <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:09 PM
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give a direct quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:06 PM
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Are okay with women treating you like shit because you won't give them gifts? I'd love for you to give a direct quote where I stated that it was okay for men to treat women like shit if no sex is received.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:59 PM
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Repeat of argument B. Why do motivations supercede my actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:51 PM
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He can feel free to prove his point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:48 PM
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Stop the philosophical bs Mfw when you're in a debate sub and someone is debating. being nice is the bare minimum This is what we like to call; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A9 Why are you even commenting if you're not gonna debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:35 PM
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Yes, you can literally still be genuinely nice in that situation. That's my whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:30 PM
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what they mean with 'nice to be nice', is they want you to be somehow ignorant of your organism's purpose - if you will, they want you to have low enough IQ to manipulate. Finally someone who's being remotely logical and not blinded by emotion in this discussion lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:56 PM
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I did answer the hypothetical, you just didn't like the answer because it didn't follow the pathway you wanted. Which illustrates my point, you didn't like the the "why" that I gave, even though it performed the action of answering the interrogative. Reiterate how saying it's immoral relates in any way to my hypothetical. It's literally a non-answer. You're getting lost in the weeds on this subject. You're trying to math out a problem that doesn't follow the rules of mathematical logic. Facts ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:18 PM
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Assuming I grant you all of this, how is it not "threatening" to leave any sort of relationship that is predicated on any other value that is not being provided? Is "I'm going to stop being your friend because you don't appreciate me" a threatening statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:16 PM
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an expression of intention to inflict evil, injury, or damage. Since it's subjectively defined, and we're not talking about physical coercion, I don't view that act as a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:07 PM
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Nope, never made that claim, any other strawman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:04 PM
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That's easy, inflicting bodily harm, in an instance that not self defense is Mala en se. That's not moral, you can't divide by zero. This isn't answering my hypothetical. The why matters more, because emotional perception is reality. So to be clear, subjectively evil/negative outcomes are permissible as kind if the motive fits the bill?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:00 PM
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I did not reject the definition, I claimed that there is no evidence that it is ontologically correct, two very different things. And unless if you have proof, I have no reason to believe that altruism is intrinsically self-contingent. Also, you think cause and effect exists in my own head?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:57 PM
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Reconcile what you just said with this hypothetical; If I am motivated to be kind to you by stabbing you with a knife, because I find it to be axiomatically moral, does my motive now supercede my action, and actually render it kind in the view of the 3rd party? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:53 PM
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3rd party is irrelevant. You can't make this claim and then no less than 30 words later say; most people don’t like being stabbed. Either the opinion of the 3rd party matters or it doesn't. A person doesn’t have to succeed in making someone happy for their actions to be considered selfless. Sometimes, actions done with nice motivations still have negative results. Not all nice people are smart enough to figure out how to actually make anyone happy, and their attempts to might even cause dismay a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:50 PM
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Yes. Niceness/Kindness is defined by motivation, not impact. If you act to benefit yourself over others, it’s considered selfish. Ok, great, now reconcile what you just said with the following hypothetical; If I am motivated to be kind to you by stabbing you with a knife, because I find it to be axiomatically moral, does my motive now supercede my action, and actually render it kind in the view of the 3rd party?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:42 PM
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Jesse what the fuck are you talking about? Can you state the difference between an unkind action and an unkind motivation please?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:41 PM
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The definition of altruism is "disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others." So by definition, it is self-contingent. If I do deeds that appear altruistic for personal gain, I don't have selfless concern for others, I have concern for myself. I'm sorry, are you seriously claiming that a definition is ontologically correct because it says so in the definition? Guess I'll just have to reiterate, prove that the definition is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:38 PM
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If she slandered him on TikTok, she definitionally commited an unkind action, independent of her motives. Your hypothetical isn't proving your point, maybe you should revise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:36 PM
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How does this prove that motives supercede actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:34 PM
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No, because the actions are unkind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:32 PM
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Because that's what "nice" means. Like, as a definition. Being altruistic. Pro-social. Selfless. A nice person likes to benefit their environment, and the pleasure they get from seeing their environment thrive is their goal. Repeat of argument A. Altruism isn't self-contingent. I don't see how it's so hard - I've been nice before and experienced pleasure from it. I do nice things for my coworkers, my friends, my family, my pets, my partners - being good to something and watching it grow feels gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:31 PM
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Because that's just how it is. This is an admission of defeat, circular arguments are nonsensical by default. Do you now admit that it is theoretically justified for a person to be nice for sex? The nature of the action shifts entirely and the act itself is done with selfish motives. You do the act for personal gain so it's self serving and transactional. This is a repeat of argument A, in order for this to be true, altruism would have to be self-contingent, can you prove that altruism is self-c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:30 PM
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Your statement makes no sense, can you reiterate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:28 PM
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Being a nice for the purpose of a reward, nullifies the act of niceness. Instead you are performing a task at an operational level in anticipation of a reward, you're not being nice, you are being performative. Again, this is just a repeat of argument B. Why do motivations matter more than actions, if the end result is that a kind act will be committed anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:24 PM
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Why not? This is hilarious also considering the person I'm responding to quite literally stated; Nice acts make me feel good which is why I do them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:23 PM
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Because appreciation is a normal thing for friends to have for each other. It's NOT normal to expect your friends to have sex with you. I never made a value judgement of the normalcy of this act, I'm asking you, theoretically, how is this is any different than wanting another contingent factor like appreciation? If your point is that the social response is different, then you're not answering my question. I've you're a good liar, you can convince someone that you're nice, sure. But you're not ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:21 PM
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Right, and in that quote, which part specifically entails that men should end their friendships if sex isn't happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:16 PM
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Being „nice“ to have sex is not actually being nice……you play a character that you not actually are. You deceive the other person. So my motives supercede my actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:14 PM
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Because “nice” isn’t something special- it’s expected Where did I make that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:13 PM
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Again, very simply. Quote where I said this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:13 PM
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When a person is nice, they do nice things because THAT is what makes them happy. Why is this the only acceptable motivation for nice acts? Again, not convinced that you yourself believe this. If I give charity to the poor, and it makes me emotionally unhappy because I am wasting money, is my act now unkind?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:13 PM
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No, "if you disagree with me you are a sociopath" is definitionally emotional blackmail. Don't enter a debate sub if you don't want to debate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:11 PM
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If you tell a woman "Have sex with me or I won't be your friend anymore", you've already stopped being their friend. How is this any different than requiring any other contingent factors to be fulfilled? Like appreciation? Can you at the very least admit that kind actions (like the benefits of friendship) born out of the need to have sex are virtually indistinguishable from those that aren't motivated by the same need? (which is trust, fun, companionship, comfort ect. All of which cannot exist i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:10 PM
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A.) "Nice to be nice" isn't that complicated, you're just missing a step. A "nice" person likes making people happy, so "making people happy" IS the reward. IE - When I clean the staff kitchen, and everyone comes into work and is happy that the kitchen is clean so they can use it? That feels good for me, it's something "nice" that I do that I GET rewarded for by making my social group happy. Glad we can both agree that altruism isn't predicated upon itself. B.) It's true, only you know your own …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:06 PM
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But if you think buying a woman things is somehow going to make her feel sexual attraction Can you quote to me where I made this claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:00 PM
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Says the man who said if sex isn't given when a man is nice a friendship should stop Quote where I said this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:59 PM
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It's wrong to treat another person as a means to an end, I'm not even sure that you believe this if we start putting this theory to the test. What if my end-goal is positively viewed by the 3rd party? What if said party ultimately gains more than they lose by being treated as a means? What serves to make it "wrong" then? to fake emotional connection What is the actionable difference between a nice act for sex and a nice act for anything else? without regard for the other person involved in the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:58 PM
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I still don't understand why the premise is wrong, can you maybe reiterate your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:52 PM
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So you somewhat agree that there is no theoretical justification that nullifies the idea that you can be nice to have sex? Also, what is the empirical difference between a friendship that is contingent upon sex and one that isn't? If it is that once sex is guaranteed not to happen, then a friendship dissipates, how is that different than any other contingent factors that can end a friendship if not present like let's say, appreciation, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:51 PM
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Either move on or don't, or do what OP is doing a turn it into a head fuckathon. Lol this is why the divorce rate is so high, one little bump in the road and "it's time to move on"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:47 PM
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<image> The vast, vast majority of women you'll date and fuck will have access to free birth control. Do you wish to recant your original point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:46 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:58 AM
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Is she paying for the condom?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:34 AM
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Why would the woman accept the date if the idea of sleeping with him isn't appealing? It takes two to tango, if the woman doesn't want to pay her share she shouldn't accept the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:28 AM
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and many men don't even have it in their nature, while many women are natural generals and organizers. This is just historically and biologically incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:27 AM
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The most recent data (from 2022) shows that only 11% of men ages 18-29 didn’t have sex in that year alone. That’s compared to 12% of women in the same age cohort. That's because 2022 had an inapplicable rating of 55%, which never happened since the survey began in the 1990s. It's an outlier year, it doesn't indicate the trend is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:37 PM
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If that was true you would expect most men to have a relationship at some point (which is true). No, it's not, your using the current age cohort (29+) to predict the dating landscape of the younger generation. All the while not acknowledging that the sexlessness and loneliness trend in men is actually an ahistorical phenomenon and didn't occur with the 18 year olds of old.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:15 PM
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Based on an unproven notion that dating trends are going to drastically change. People still partner up especially as they get older. I think the number of forever single adults will increase but the idea that it will go from 2 percent to like 20 or 30 percent is crazy. It's not crazy if you know how to do statistics. All it takes is for you to compare similar age cohorts (18-25) across generations. It is objectively correct that the average age of men losing their virginity has gone up, that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:11 PM
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It's about giving up the need for love and sex. What is this hippy dippy nonsense. jUsT iGnOrE yOuR bIoLoGy bro Let's make it simple, you want more sex, you want women to actually want to be with you? Status, looks, and money, in that order, it ain't that hard. The universe doesn't care about your wants and needs, it cares about what you can provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:30 PM
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How do you measure for unspoken consent? Also, I can hold the opinion that women should be blamed for walking around scantily while men should be blamed for raping them, these aren't conflicting positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:23 PM
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The golddiggers are predators, like rapists are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:15 PM
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I think you are VASTLY underestimating how much work women put into their appearance. While simultaneously exaggerating your own suffering. Boo. Hoo. I think you are vastly overestimating the work women put in to justify yourself as equal to men in suffering. Which is obviously detached from reality, boo hoo Do you think there are women out there who haven’t had to deal with hair loss? Cool point. Now let's see if the numbers match on both sides. Or women who don’t have to spend hours at the gym…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:18 AM
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A woman doesn't have to be fit to be considered pretty for the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:56 AM
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You live on another planet if you think a woman has to be fit to gain male attention lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:14 AM
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I literally had to go through surgery to get my hair back, had to spend countless hours at the gym every week to gain an attractive body, and actually work out not just push the leg press machine and do some light cardio like most women do. And I'm extremely blessed to be 6'1 to boot. Sorry, what women have to do to be perceived as attractive is damn near childish when compared to what men have to do. Oh no, you had to spend 5 minutes hiding your dark circles with a corrector, how grueling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:14 AM
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Prove that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:27 PM
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If older males are mostly responsible for the higher singledom rating in younger men. Can you justify; a) The rate of singledom in the female 30-50 cohort not only not increasing, but actually dropping. b) With the average age gap being 2.1 years in America, can you explain how males 4 years older than 29 (at a liberal maximal estimate just to give you the benefit of the doubt) can account for a difference of nearly 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:23 AM
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And how does this disprove the existence of a soft harem system in the 18-29 cohort.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:56 AM
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If older males are mostly responsible for the higher singledom rating in younger men. Can you justify; a) The rate of singledom in the female 30-50 cohort not only not increasing, but actually dropping. b) With the average age gap being 2.1 years in America, can you explain how males 4 years older than 29 (at a liberal maximal estimate just to give you the benefit of the doubt) can account for a difference of nearly 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:50 AM
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He's wrong on the timeframe, but; <image> Once the worldwide fertility rate gets below 2.1, how exactly do you expect the population not to drop?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:44 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:41 AM
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The infant mortality rate for Egypt in 2022 was 13.654 deaths per 1000 live births I'm fine with that yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:11 AM
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There are no female carti fans
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:47 PM
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The irony
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:42 PM
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The main reason why Mexicans don't want kids is because of higher undergraduate enrollment. Contraception has nothing to do with it, else the working class in Norway would not be having kids at the same rate as the upper middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:41 PM
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Even the poorest American has a good quality of life, hope this encourages you to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:33 PM
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We live in a country with privatized healthcare. There is no incentive to have children in the US. You can literally go bankrupt just from giving birth. Daycare costs as much as most mortgages. Cost of living has skyrocketed wages have stagnated. No most of us probably won’t have children. For the love of God. Stop. Claiming. That. Prosperity. Is. Proportional. To. The. Birth. Rate. There is literally zero, absolutely z e r o, empirically conclusive evidence for this hypothesis. All examples see…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:33 PM
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"We didn't think ahead, we just bred and bred. Then we had to move countries to escape the poverty." It's hilarious because countries like Norway will see their economies collapse because they're too scared to lose their upper middle class lifestyle for the sake of something more fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:27 PM
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Just how expensive do you think a condom and pill is in let's say, Norway? Have you considered the fact that the working class simply has a different value system than the upper middle class? That they're not all helpless uneducated monkeys who don't know what a condom is, but who actually want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:24 PM
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No, what's destructive and selfish is valuing that extra money for your vacation rather than having a child. If Africans can afford to raise children, then Americans have no excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:23 PM
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There isn't a single population estimate known to man that predicts the population to decrease by *any* amount let alone 2 billion in the next 50 years. I'll make sure the EU gets the memo <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:21 PM
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Soft harems are literally happening as we speak. A woman doesn't need to be aware for her to be in a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:18 PM
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search for hot-button issues like height, nice guys, empathy or hypergamy. This behavior is an indisputable fact. Let me guess, the opinions expressed on these topics that most agree with your worldview are also the ones that coincidentally don't paint a person as a "tantrum throwing child". How shocking. Or maybe the entire concept of debating is just triggering for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:16 PM
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Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is a tantrum throwing child. Never have I seen such rigorously intellectual commentary on Reddit 👍🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:05 PM
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A social scientist
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:03 PM
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I fucking despise the fact that women at large set the social standard for communication. Male interpersonal communication is just way more chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 10:57 PM
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Ok lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 10:53 PM
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How is there an "overcorrection" for a status that your side claims is essentially unobtainable for these men? 1) Never claimed it's unobtainable. 2) I inherently question the validity of that stat in the first place. My ranked belief in that number is; It's inconclusive>it's an overcorrection>it proves that average men have sex consistently like in the 90s and beyond. I love how you didn't address why I referred to this year as an outlier. You guys throw this stat around a lot, but generally do…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:30 PM
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Most young men are having sex even though they are technically single because they aren’t in committed relationships. Except most young women are in relationships. In 2022, only 11% of men ages 18-29 didn’t have sex. To be clear, that was just for that year alone. Your own source indicates that this year alone is not an indicator of a trend. <image> This is what the actual chart you're quoting looks like, 2022 seems to be a post-pandemic overcorrection for an upwards trend that started in 2008. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:12 PM
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You’re fishing for a specific answer because you don’t like my answer. You’re not going to get the answer you want just because you want it. Some people would be. Some people wouldn’t be. I, and anyone arguing good faith, would obviously not like your answer because it is a non-answer that begs the question. The vast majority of sane rational people do not find children physically threatening, do you disagree with this statement? It's really not that hard to concede on something that's objective…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:11 PM
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Most regular men are wanted though. PEW says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:01 PM
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Hello, I admit I can be weird. I have a girlfriend. I still blame feminism. I am red pilled. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:00 PM
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Social ineptness is a large cause of male sexlessness Prove that it supercedes looks, status or wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:59 PM
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And for the vast majority of sane, rational people?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:56 PM
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<image> Is this what the average woman looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:51 PM
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And if it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:50 PM
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Are there negative consequences to watching porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:12 PM
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It's a form of abuse to try and control them in that way. So yes. This is a stupid point to make, you're basically making the claim that not all forms of abuse are bad. I'll gladly abuse my partner by stopping them from ODing on heroine lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:54 PM
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I've first hand experienced ED with a railthin model-level woman. I literally had to use viagra to compensate. Porn destroys your receptors, to the point where even attractive women aren't stimulating enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:53 PM
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Yes, I'm sure the average woman is walking around carrying a knife or a gun, it's totally reasonable to feel physically threatened by someone a little bigger than a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:51 PM
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unarmed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:54 AM
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I didn't realise it was such a complicated question; Do you think it's normal to feel physically threatened by an average 13 year old boy as a full grown adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:54 AM
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I should let my partner indulge herself into (legal) depravity because otherwise it's controlling? And if heroine was legalized tomorrow you'd be fine with letting your partner destroy themselves because what? Stopping them is "a sign of insecurity" or some other bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:51 AM
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Do you think it's normal to feel physically threatened by an average 13 year old boy as a full grown adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:40 AM
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Trying to stop their partners from watching porn. This is completely out of the left field, how is it any creepier than stopping your partner from smoking weed, cigarettes, shooting up heroine, playing video games for too long, or doing any activity that fucks up your dopamine receptors?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:39 AM
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I will never in my life understand how an average man can feel physically threatened by an unarmed woman. It's like feeling threatened by a child. The only time I'll feel threatened by a woman is if she has a male companion sneaking up behind me to rock my shit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:38 AM
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Oh you're trying to claim because your hyperbolic hypothetical is unfulfilled then therefore equitable distribution laws are a good thing and have no negative consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:15 PM
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Because fairness is arbitrarily decided by a judge not by a 50/50 division. Read up on what equitable distribution actually entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:04 PM
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Why can’t a hot woman be nice? These things aren’t mutually exclusive. They have no incentive to be nice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:08 PM
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Dude women can’t go outside without a male escort Literally just CNN headlines. I've never in my life met a Saudi woman who was bound to stay at home because she didn't have a male escort. I would like for you to prove that this is the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:52 AM
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does a book feature real human beings performing real sex acts? Yes, it is describing a real sexual act that actually happened. Yards apart for anyone with just two brain cells that occasionally bump together and spark. Just because low IQ normies think something is true it doesn't mean it's true. There's no fundamental difference between visual and written media other than presentation, the content could be similarly accurate on both sides, yet you only have a problem with the one that's in pix…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:47 AM
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It took two seconds of scrolling
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:37 AM
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50 Shades of Gray just passed The Lord of the Rings and is currently the best selling book of the decade. In the United States, when the book first released, it temporarily overtook the Bible in sales. And this is simply the biggest female erotica book out there, there are still smaller books within the fifty shades series that outsold the likes of Harry Potter and the Hunger Games. There's other books too that sell well, in addition to forums like WattPad being female dominated. Your claim of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:35 AM
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This is literally you 11 days ago. makeup doesn’t do anything if you’re ugly your makeup is not gonna look “clean”. it’s gonna look tacky and stupid and people will make fun of you. eyeliner only looks good on people with good eye areas. lipstick only looks good on big lips. similar to how clothes only look good on certain body types. makeup doesn’t change your face, all it can do is add color and contrast. like contour, blush and concealer. which works for some people, but most traits that make…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:28 AM
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If a book is depicting a real sexual act, does it then become real?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:23 AM
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The community gets a bad rap because of coomers lmao There is literally 0 benefit to consuming pornography, in exchange you get some sweet erectile dysfunction
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:15 AM
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You can be short when you're a literal 1% in everything else
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:11 AM
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Inductive reasoning, with which we can identify cause and effect, which is a universal phenomenon. The fundamental structure of reality follows an ontologically dependent narrative. You're trying to claim that altruism, for some reason, deviates from the norm and is immune to cause and effect. Hilariously enough, your burden of proof is far higher than mine. So I ask again, prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:33 AM
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I think the women saying this are just in denial and if male attention or female peacocking for male attention were not part of the equation, then women would stop partaking in any sort of physical self-improvement that serve the express purpose of elevating their looks. It's just biology, and perfectly human to do so. If everyone on the planet were to disappear except for one woman, are we really going to entertain the idea that she's gonna be putting on makeup or wearing uncomfortably revealin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:28 AM
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A non-contingent object doesn't exist Anyways, Altruism isn't contingent on anything. Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:23 AM
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Do you believe altruism exists at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:21 AM
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Yes, I hold doors open for men and women all the time. So I do reciprocate. Good on you but that's not what I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:21 AM
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Is there a reason you didn't answer the question I asked? Let's try this again. If both families and the groom agree on facilitating the partner, and the only person who objects is the woman, what happens? They don't pursue in the vast majority of cases. Reading comprehension issues? Any religion. Laws based on the will of the people can be changed, laws based on scripture can not. Islam is the official religion of saudi arabia. That's great and all, but enforced monogamy predates the abrahamic …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:16 AM
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North Carolina, and any other state with equitable distribution laws, in addition to most of western europe. A judge can even allow the wife to seize premarital property if marital assets (like money made while married) have been used to maintain, pay off or improve the house in any way. It's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:00 AM
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Great, now give me stats on the number of men married to two wives lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:46 AM
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Your belief hinges on altruism being contingent upon itself, can you prove that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:19 PM
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Prove it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:54 PM
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And if everyone agrees on facilitating the partners except for the woman? What happens? They don't pursue in the vast majority of cases? It exists because of religion, full stop. If muslims had been the ones who came to america our country would have been founded on something closer to shariah law. Mercifully, that's not what happened. Which religion? Because enforced monogamy predates the abrahamic religions. Define "worked" because I'm not seeing the positive results. Other countries have lapp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:43 PM
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I like babies because they keep society going and they look cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:32 PM
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Birth rate
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:28 PM
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“If black people hated slavery, why’d it take them centuries to abolish it? 🥴” Thanks for making my point for me. First of all, I would argue the vast majority of black people in Africa were benefactors or uninvolved with the transatlantic slave trade, so they had no reason to hate it. Second of all, for those that did hate it, it took about 110 years for it to get abolished in the United States. 110 years Vs 5000 years since the start of agriculture; I propose the absolutely wild hypothesis tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:25 PM
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Solution to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:19 PM
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Malls in Saudi Arabia are hookup spots, people turn on their Bluetooth and basically communicate on the fly like a real time dating app. Never seen this happen in Arab Mall, Red Sea Mall, Haifa Mall, or any mall in Jeddah really. It’s not that uncommon for a good looking guy to get an offer, by women, for an all inclusive weekend in Dubai, all inclusive meaning she pays flight, hotel, and whatever else. Yes it literally is. A resident saudi woman spending her dad's money on another man? Bro what…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:18 PM
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Already have a permanent residency in Jeddah. Any more useless points?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:11 PM
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Dude… If women were actually happy with “enforced monogamy”, why have they rebelled against it in most parts of the world at some point or another? Because of the rise of capitalism encouraging women to enter the work force and abolishing the extended family in favour of the condensed nuclear family. If women were so unhappy, why have they waited thousands of years to rebel against this "extremely oppressive system", are they stupid? It’ll happen in places like Saudi Arabia soon at some point as…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:10 PM
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I don’t get it? Bad women have sex all the time too. I never got the idea that a person is good or bad if they have sex. If anything it used to be that having lots of sex with different people made you a bad person actually since sexual morality favors chastity and faithfulness. You're unintentionally agreeing with the overarching point; Your personality, specifically your kindness, and your niceness, will not elevate your ability to sexually succeed. Therefore nice guys are justified in feeling…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:06 PM
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What is a bad person who has wealth?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:04 PM
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I don't have to justify anything, the women there are rejecting your western feminism, they don't want it and they certainly don't need it. Way to not address any of my points bytheway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:03 PM
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You're seriously asking me why I put people who acquire or maintain wealth by creating businesses and/or managing them morally higher than drug dealers?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:01 PM
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usually loveless/sexless? Source? Even in those cultures if the women could choose their partners I don't know what your experience is with Saudi Arabia, or maybe you just get your facts from CNN headlines, but as a person who's lived there for 15 years, the vast majority of women are not forced into relationships with men against their will. What will happen is both families on both sides will agree to facilitate the dating process, and/or make it harder if they don't approve of the prospective…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:59 PM
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Except sexlessness is literally a negative trait for men. If that is the case then obviously the inverse must be true, I don't even know why this is up for debate. Men who have a lot of sex are perceived as successful and competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:52 PM
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Do you believe true altruism exists? Do you believe that it's realistic for one party to be nice and then not have their niceness reciprocated in a similar manner?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:50 PM
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but if you're nice with the expectation of women flocking to you, then you're not actually nice. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:49 PM
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Look to cultures that are still heavily conservative like Saudi Arabia. Simply "looking good" is not even close to the main qualifier for having a partner, unfortunately that's not the case for the hedonistic west.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:47 PM
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Do you even know why it was shut down?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 02:11 PM
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Ben Shapiro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 02:03 PM
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My question is when? Cutting to the chase since you're horrifically bad faith. He killed himself because his project of building male DV shelters was shut down due to government interference brought on by protests from feminists. And you said it’s one of the most popular. So where’s that English link? It takes about two seconds. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/books/pauline-harmange-i-hate-men.html And it's not actually one of the most popular books, I just fact checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:53 PM
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You said women working means no kids. But literally women have been working and having kids. Hell women entered the mainstream workforce in the 70s and all we got was the biggest economic expansion in history for the next 30 years. Oh and the millennial generation which is actually a bigger population than the Boomers (who ironically are named after a baby boom). Now, do you genuinely believe I meant that as soon as a woman enters the workforce, she is bound by the universe to not have kids? See…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:50 PM
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This man murdered himself. Why would feminist women do this?! Do you know why? And the most popular book doesn’t have an English translation? It does. And it's not the most popular book.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:41 PM
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What exactly do you think my point was? Specifically, not hyperbolically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:39 PM
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Do you know why he killed himself or nah? Second one is a feminist writing a book fantasising on why she hates men. It's one of the most popular books in feminist literature
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:37 PM
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As the Jews say; statistics don't care about your anecdotes Also, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:35 PM
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Lmao the framing of your final hypothetical says it all. If you don't want your biases to cloud your entire argument, you should frame it more equitably, like; "The worst misogynist's dream is a world where women are suffering and enslaved. The worst misadnrist's dream is a world where men are genocided out of existence."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:26 PM
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https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/earl-silverman-who-ran-mens-safe-house-dies-in-apparent-suicide https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.babelio.com/livres/Harmange-Moi-les-hommes-je-les-deteste/1256010&ved=2ahUKEwj8h9COsaOEAxU-UaQEHb4AB5oQFnoECBgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2O8O-SWc76iSVVCBgtL_E_
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:23 PM
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Women work = no kids = society dies
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:22 PM
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Hookup culture is dying, what are you talking about? Most men under 25 haven't even approached a woman in the past year
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:23 PM
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The vast majority of older men are in locked relationships. And the age gap argument doesn't work because sexual activity in older women does not drop off, which would be the case if these older men are compensating for the younger men not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:21 PM
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Right, but you're assuming they're having an equal amount of sex, when the stats show that men are having less sex. At best, STD rates should be dropping if less men are having sex, but it simply isn't, it supposedly went up, indicating that sexual activity not only remained the same but actually increased. In which case, who are these women having sex with when the number of men having sex has dropped off insanely? A small minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:17 PM
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STDs aren't airborne, you need to actually be touching another person's genatalia to contract it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:34 PM
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Forbidden stats
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:32 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/01/03/10-facts-about-americans-and-alcohol-as-dry-january-begins/#:~:text=Per%2Dcapita%20alcohol%20consumption%20peaked,to%2C%20according%20to%20the%20NIAAA. Per-capita alcohol consumption peaked in the early 1980s at 3.28 gallons, or almost 700 drinks. It bottomed out in the late 1990s at 2.45 gallons per person, or about 523 drinks. Americans drink less beer and more wine than they used to, according to the NIAAA. Also, average drug use is peaking r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:45 PM
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I'm curious, how expensive do you believe contraception for both genders actually is if you think it's not accessible to the poor in the West? Cause, I would rather ponder that it's simply due to working class refusing to value career or education over having a family, rather than not knowing about or not having access to pills and condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:33 PM
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Women in those Muslim countries are having far less children now though. Not in comparison to Western countries, no. They're above replacement rate
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:30 PM
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Then how come impoverished and conservative people in industrialised societies still have more kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:01 PM
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You call it rights and choice I call it hedonistic accelerationism that will spell the death of western society as we know it Unironically the patriarchy will come back through the form of mass immigration of conservative culture, all thanks to materialistic dogshit 2nd wave feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:36 PM
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You call it rights and choice I call it hedonistic accelerationism that will spell the death of western society as we know it Unironically the patriarchy will come back through the form of mass immigration of conservative culture, all thanks to materialistic dogshit 2nd wave feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:36 PM
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<image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:34 PM
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Hello, I have a girlfriend and I hate women Point disproven
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:23 PM
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Lmao if you think the original feminists condoned the sexual revolution and its consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:23 PM
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And my grandmother married an absolutely lovely gentleman and lived her entire life happy taking her of husband and her lovely kids. Anecdotes are just that, anecdotes. The SSRI consumption rate speak for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:48 PM
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It's astonishing how much better our grandmothers are than modern women. What the fuck happened
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:30 PM
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Feminism. It's the literally the sole constant across every country with dropping birth rates, with the exception of China who mandated it legally. The more women enter the work force, the less fertile a society is. Socioeconomic explanations fail to account for the existence of countries like Norway which have world class labour rights, are incredibly wealthy, and yet still experience a collapsing birth rate. And then in the opposite direction; the fact that poor countries in general are outbre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:29 PM
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So the solution seems to be to actually improverish those countries to teach them that they don't need to be upper-middle class to successfully have and raise kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:25 PM
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Genders flipped, consequence of feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:06 AM
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Post these unhinged comments
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:00 AM
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When the subreddit blew up a couple of years ago, it wasn't malingering dog walkers; it was a huge number of people saying "I hate that I am forced to work my youth away in a job that I am completely alienated in, affords me no dignity, and pays me barely enough to sustain myself. I want something different." Too bad these work reformists chose to associate themselves with and let themselves be controlled by work abolitionists. Anyway - laziness is a virtue. All I needed to hear lmao Laziness is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:56 AM
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Men are not even expecting women to fulfill every sort of need for connectivity that they want. They're simply expecting them to fullfil a romantic need, and that's not even happening anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:54 AM
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Anti-work is a perfectly reasonable reaction to current day work culture. The anti-work subreddit quite literally got started by a bunch of dog walkers who think that society should unreasonably support them with them doing the absolute bare minimum. I mean one of the mods literally called laziness a virtue. https://youtu.be/wVEEsgz524s?feature=shared
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:47 AM
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In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:41 AM
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It never made that claim no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:39 AM
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My man thinks that Gen Z actually participated in any wars lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:39 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/replication-crisis#:~:text=The%20term%2C%20which%20originated%20in,that%20study%20using%20similar%20procedures. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:22 AM
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capitalism is people working to make the 1% richer at the expense of their health, social connections, and the environment. Literally all systems in human society including socialism are now capitalist lmao This is why as soon as Gen Z take control of this country it's going to collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:21 AM
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Are we speaking in generalities or anecdotes here? Bro 1/5 of Gen Zers literally think the Holocaust is a myth, while another 30% said they didn't agree or disagree with that statement. Gen Z is also responsible for anti-work. And a huge portion of them think a man can become a woman. These people are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:16 AM
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Social science is barely reproducible as is, vast majority of it is unempirical and untrustworthy. Also, within context of dating advice the red-pill is 100% based on far more research than the blue pill. I mean the blue pillers don't even try to justify their claims, they just gaslight (average men get into relationships all the time) or straight up insult you (you are an incel, etc), although they've been forced to adapt their approach to be more scientific as well as of late due to the sheer …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:10 AM
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You can literally be nice without sex in mind and still want to have sex, these aren't conflicting objectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:06 AM
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Mass societal isolation and widespread loneliness is 100% a problem that needs to be fixed. If you don't think it's an issue feel free to join the accelerationist club
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:54 PM
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You think the boomers are entitled until you talk to a slightly attractive Gen Z women. It's like the entitlement of the boomers mixed with weaponised autism, and a dash of liberal millennial pearl-clutching. Boomers went through Vietnam and predated the internet, they're not completely hopeless like Gen Z
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:52 PM
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Altruism isn't real. In any case, women have literally no way of differentiating between a nice guy and a Nice Guy, their actions are virtually the same, and in reality most nice guys don't literally think "if I open this door for her she'll want to have sex with me", that's a child-like caricature of a man, not a real person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:38 PM
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Tinder experiments are about women matching like crazy with literal Nazis just because they're attractive <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:33 PM
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More empirical, more descriptive, more actionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:30 PM
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How is it even possible to account for all men on earth when the average age of marriage has been steadily rising and perpetual singledom has exploded in young men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:29 PM
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Bro, literally no one in this subreddit would have trouble if they looked like Chris Hemsworth. "But looks tho" is an undeniable argument. Like, I genuinely think the red pill only works if you're starting at 5/10 (aka average), if you're below that it's time to get surgery or live a life of loneliness
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:27 PM
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Women literally don't know how to flirt, I've had the privilege of seeing multiple trying on me and it's hilarious how awful they are I swear being a woman is so much easier
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:14 PM
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One of these things is a lie; 1) You are fat and ugly 2) Random women kiss and grope you in the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:13 PM
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The problem is that Loneliness is overblown. There's always been an adjustment period in frequency of relationships as you switch to adulthood. Can you justify the skyrocketing male suicide rate in developed countries and the absolutely huge explosion in singledom in young men compared to previous generations? If this was normal and expected, then why aren't these numbers replicated historically in the same age cohort?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:26 AM
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Women: don't turn the date into a job interview. Also women:
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:23 AM
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I think it's more likely that dating apps get banned or heavily restricted in the way they construct their algorithm than anything like that happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:22 AM
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Pretty much every non-western (optional), non-subsaharan (optional) society is racist against blacks. Y'all are just unliked, I blame Obama
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:29 AM
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Humans don't turn into bloodthirsty vampires when anarchy breaks loose. We're biologically incentivised not to do so. And a social contract that dispels murder is also contingent upon empathy, for in a society that values murder, we would just not care if someone gets killed, or even encourage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:26 AM
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Humans have a genetically imbued sense of empathy that stops them from murdering, that's why murder has always been historically rare and punished.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:13 AM
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The Nazis aren't Fascist, these are two different ideologies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:07 AM
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Who's this we? You're gonna need to convince men to join your side unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:05 AM
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<image> because children draw anti-war art in schools is government's involvement in your life? You think the UK has free speech? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/06/head-of-uks-leading-anti-monarchy-group-arrested-at-coronation-protest The group had been walking behind a rental van containing hundreds of placards when they were approached by the police and searched. A video of an exchange with one of those arrested was caught on film. One police officer can be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:04 AM
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For the most part, the UK government will be more involved in your life than the Russian government, just as an example. You don't know what authoritarianism means. Unironically, the vast majority of the third and second world is too poor to exercise their authority effectively over their citizens, the eurocucks however don't have this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:45 PM
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Curious how you'll hypothetically do this without the support of the male population? After all, violence is the ultimate authority from which all other authority derives, and men are the most violent gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:43 PM
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It's amazing how you defined fascism as extremely racist whilst ignoring that Fascist Italy (aka the OG fascists) literally never implemented ethnically deterministic policies
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:42 PM
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Feminists are going to die out either way, how is this a pyrrhic victory for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:37 PM
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Demographic statistics are insane?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:24 PM
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Lmao you'll be glad until you're replaced by patriarchal muslims
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:53 PM
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The average guy is going to attract the average girl. And what stats are you quoting when you make this claim
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:50 PM
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Lol now your just cherry picking What am I cherry picking? Specifically. Throwing buzz words around doesn't help your case. If your going to argue it’s real, you have to use the whole fact that it applies to both genders, otherwise your using it as a weapon against woman A) I never made a value judgement on hypergamy being good or bad, I (and the scientific community) said it exists. B) There's no foundational theory necessitating it must apply to both sexes equally, unless if you want to offer …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:49 PM
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For god's sake, a disabled, obese, neckbeard can be considered attractive Here I'll spell it out for you; the point is to be attractive to as many women as possible. The guy on the left is clearly far more unattractive by any universal standard compared to the guy in the right. Also lmao if you think he's at peak performance on the right
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:39 PM
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Why the fuck are you putting females in quotes? Because the phenomenon mostly exists in the sex that has more to lose from procreating?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:37 PM
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I’m not, ‘hypergamy’ was made up by incels as a weapon towards woman. Luckily, it’s easy to poke holes in The made up definition of hypergamy in your head sure. Honestly, no one cares if you deny hypergamy, it's like denying gravity is real. Hypergamy (colloquially referred to as "dating up" or "marrying up"[1]) is a term used in social science for the act or practice of a person dating or marrying a spouse of higher social status or sexual capital than themselves. We've examples of it (actual h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:34 PM
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He's literally fat. There's a reason why the picture on the right is considered progress
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:27 PM
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Which ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:04 AM
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Women have way more orgasms when they are lesbians as opposed to being straight. And they have sex at a far lower frequency, so this point is completely moot We literally have proof that testosterone injections increases horniness in men https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/andro.2021.0034%23:~:text%3DA%2520strong%2520correlation%2520between%2520serum,replacement%2520therapy%2520in%2520hypogonadal%2520men.&ved=2ahUKEwjN0-bD…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:03 AM
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Bro, women's libidos are low because of pure fucking biology. RP and BP ain't got shit to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:47 AM
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One key difference. The things you're saying actually bare out in the stats. The claims the other side is making; women having a an equal or higher libido, is just fictitious nonsense. Reality doesn't care about perceived hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:47 AM
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People don't need reasons to not date someone, they need reasons to date someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:15 AM
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This bitch better hope she's Margot Robbie levels attractive, otherwise she's gonna be forever alone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:56 AM
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Believing this, you would have to reconcile that with the fact that lust and hormones exist. No, attraction is immediate, which means revocation of attraction is the norm. The opposite, which is building attraction, is only possible in Disneyland.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:52 AM
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Lmao, stop with the word games. An ideal is still ultimately a goal, you're not fucking settling when you marry a man who doesn't have a boat, is a car mechanic, a computer tech, and also 6ft, and rich, you're actually living in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:49 AM
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Ironic comment lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:38 AM
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<image> Lmao at women on this sub trying to convince me that the guy on the left is "considered fine".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:29 AM
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.oecd.org/gov/gov-at-a-glance-2021-new-zealand.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj65Pvx_5GEAxXOU6QEHa9UAl0QFnoECA0QBg&usg=AOvVaw3WJyLGkKtzLQiJJ60S884X https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.mintasset.co.nz/news/you-might-have-to-name-your-next-daughter-mark/%23:~:text%3DThe%2520Diversity%252C%2520Equity%2520and%2520Inclusion,47%2525%2520of%2520New%2520Zealand%27s%2520workforce.&ved=2ahUKEwiOlZP-_5GEA…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:29 PM
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New Zealand was founded by William Hobson???
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:22 PM
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No, loneliness is a state of being, which is why the only way I can "feel" accompanied when I'm isolated in the woods is if I'm schizophrenic. Real loneliness is an actual lack of connection, as in the non-existence of another node (human) to connect with, not the perceived weakness of a connection that does exist. So unless if you want to argue that women are disconnected from reality, which very well may be the case here considering the reports, the gender that has more friends and social supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:26 PM
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I'm sorry, are you claiming that perceived loneliness is equal to actual loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:15 PM
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Lol, Lmao even Which gender is more likely to be in a relationship and have friends again?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:07 PM
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In what inaccurate ways does TRP state that men are superior to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:10 PM
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Yeah, and Reddit is trash when it comes to political analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:05 PM
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Belief ain't got nothing to do with it. That data is actually distorted (shock shock). https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/o6r8ly/comment/h2umefi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:04 PM
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Because they're ignorant of the facts? Literally the vast majority of anti-American sentiment, especially on Reddit, is based on false premises and misleading statistics. Like for example, did you know that Massachusetts has equal healthcare outcomes to Switzerland, the number 1 country in the world in healthcare? But no one would know this because when leftists on the internet make disingenuous comparisons they compare the entire United States to Switzerland. That's just one example, we can als…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:01 PM
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The male loneliness epidemic is named appropriately because women don't experience it at the same rate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:58 PM
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Europe is literally doing worse than America right now
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:56 PM
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When you include made to penetrate and unaccounted male rape statistics, men get raped as much as women get raped. I would also argue that murder is worse than rape and men get murdered at a far greater rate than women. I ain't a fan of the oppression Olympics but trust me women, y'all are gonna lose this one
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:56 PM
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To be clear, you're listing advantages women have right
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:54 PM
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Well too bad they objectively are the gatekeepers
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:56 AM
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The physicality levels that tribal women can produce are right there on par with men of that tribe. Yeah no, bone structure, muscle mass, testosterone levels, height differences, twitch muscle fibres, reaction speeds, and a plethora of other ingrained biological advantages that lead to physical domination disagree with you. The way women act is wholly contingent on the culture they're raised in, period. Evopsych ideas around "what is biological imperative" is complete and utter bullshit. And yet…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:29 AM
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Not buying it, we've been operating this way since human kind existed. Women aren't suited for domination and leadership, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:42 AM
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Would gatekeeping be a more acceptable term for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:27 AM
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I'm sorry, is this up for debate, women are the more submissive gender, physically and psychologically. Even in the feminised west which has done its absolute best to convince women that they are men in disguise. We see which gender actually dominates leadership positions, and it's not the one that has to rely on a man for basically every important non-reproductive and caretaking facet of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:25 AM
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Fucked over his collaborator OG Chess who he started producing with. Fucked over his manager who helped him get spotted by T.I. Quickest summary I can give lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:36 AM
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Travis was a piece of shit since Days Before Rodeo. His come up story is honestly disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:43 AM
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Go build a fortress or something. Based
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:03 AM
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It really depends on how fat they are before they started their looksmaxing journey. If they're skinny fat, 6 months of pure dedication to the gym is legitimately enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:36 AM
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It really depends on how fat they are before they started their looksmaxing journey. If they're skinny fat, 6 months of pure dedication to the gym is legitimately enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:35 AM
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Good personality = socially dominates others. That's literally all it is, you can do this through humour, charm, or you can do it through abrasive assholeness, machiavellianism, and manipulation. Women don't care, that's why a person like Travis Scott can land someone like Kylie Jenner despite being a legitimate piece of shit, he has influence, and that's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:17 AM
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And yes. Women do the same. But not to the extend men do that. Women judge you for who you are now. You've been a nerdy, bullied kid at school but you have matured and gained confidence and developed? Great! None of these are comparable to sleeping with multiple men in your past, it's literally impossible to change that. The equivalent for men would be if they hired prostitutes in the past out of desperation, there is literally no way to self-improve away a historical fact like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:14 AM
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It's the just world fallacy in action, both sides need to let it go in this debate honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:13 AM
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Men choose those high stress careers lol.What a dumbass retort. Ok and? Well, idk, women don't complain nearly as much about not being allowed to show emotion or use not being fucked as an excuse to murder strangers. I know women are in the habit of crying about a fictitious, ominous oppression, but even they wouldn't dare try to claim that they're being oppressed for showing their feelings, because literally no one actually holds them accountable for being emotional. It's funny how women have f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:58 PM
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How is seeking therapy because your social circle filled with misled propagandists telling you to do so, and then blindly following your doctor's prescribed addictive, brain numbing medication, evidence of you being better at regulating your emotions than the other gender? Here's a fun fact for you; which gender can actually perform better in high stress environments like the military, c-managerial positions, high governmental positions, police patrolling, etc. Oh right, ok then. https://www.ncb…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:50 PM
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Nah. Women just don't externalize their emotions as much. Which isn't a good thing, BUT, it doesn't result in other people being directly harmed nearly as often. And this has no bearing on wether or not they can regulate their emotions. More women being on antidepressants only tells me that women seek treatment more and with a greater desire to feel better. See above as to why. Men would rather feel like shit for their entire lives than acknowledge a need for support. Too bad there's no proven, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:41 PM
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If you're above 40. And married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:30 PM
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Name all the women mass shooters, all the women who go on to commit violent crimes, and all the women claiming they don't have emotions only to go on and be obsessed with the same person who they dated 20 years ago. This is literally just due to low testosterone. The conditions that breed mass shooters; isolation, loneliness, and bullying, are also less present amongst women, combine that with the fact that women are neurologically wired to take less risks and are less likely to express anger, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:29 PM
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Not really and not necessarily. Again,if that was the case no political change would ever happen. Important political change tends to come with conflict, spilled blood, and reactionaries. Simply stating that political change happens is not indicative on wether or not children are likely to politically emulate their parents. Islam is the fastest growing religion because there are Muslim Muslims in Africa. That's it. In fact,many muslim countries have less than 2.1 TFR and is falling rapidly in mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:44 PM
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Most posters here will not live to see the death of feminism at large. Their children will though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:16 PM
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Values ain't genetic. By this logic we would all have stuck to middle ages No, but you're more likely than not to be the political offspring of your parents and close relatives. That's why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, not atheism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:14 PM
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I too think the average man should aim for the bottom 20% of women if he wants a stable, normal woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:16 PM
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The majority of women are attractive to men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:48 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:42 AM
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You do realise tech is iterative right? It'll be virtually to maintain a high price on the original model of a girlfriend bot once you're 10 models in.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:17 PM
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Porn is very different from humanoid robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:13 PM
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It's literally two studies being compartmentalized in the article, and the dataset in the tables mostly have a p-value below 0.5. I would lean on the results more likely to be statistically significant than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:28 PM
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Bssed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:21 PM
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It's a simple question; In the stats you're supposedly pulling, what is the definition of sexual harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:13 PM
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Specifically in the stats you're supposedly quoting, what is defined as "sexual harassment" in the methodology? Or did you actually think Google Home was a valid source?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:04 PM
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Woah a black pill woman in the wild. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:59 PM
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What is defined as "sexual harassment"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:57 PM
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Orthodox Jews; The ultra-Orthodox in Israel do have an extremely high fertility rate — over 6.6, but it’s actually declining. And they only account for around 13 per cent of the population. Meanwhile, the Arab fertility rate has dropped to three, from an incredibly high 9.3 in 1960. Secular Jews; The real story here is the high birth rate of traditional and secular Jewish couples in Israel, who make up most of the country. Observant Jews (religious but not ultra-Orthodox) have an average of four…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:13 AM
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Secular couples in isreal have a 2.1 birth rate, which is at replacement level. https://www.google.com/amp/s/nationalpost.com/opinion/danielle-kubes-the-truth-behind-israels-curiously-high-fertility-rate/wcm/72a8dfda-a442-47d8-8a23-76faac276fa9/amp/ Orthodox Jews only account for 13% of the population, they're not enough to make up for Isreal's birth rate if the rest of the population isn't also having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:47 AM
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The ethnic makeup of North America was mostly Anglo-Saxon in 1800, by 1900 it was much more heavily Germanic, Slavic, and Southern European (esp South Italy and Greece). Culture changed a bit, the US absorbed German last names and culture (hamburgers and pizza for example), and the US continues to exist. Did Western culture disappear between 1800 and 1900s? To be clear you're asking why Europeans assimilating other Europeans did not result in Western culture disappearing? Today the US ethnic mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:52 PM
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It matters if you care about the preservation of western culture
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:31 PM
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It matters when the trends that are causing the South Koreans to disappear are predicted to happen every westernised society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:13 PM
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Isreal has an abnormally high birth rate for a country of its economic status, it still practices enforced social monogamy. The answer is oil money Right, which would indicate that prosperity doesn't necessitate girlboss feminism taking over the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:08 PM
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Then explain how Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE, and Isreal managed to retain traditionally enforced monogamy despite being developed countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:53 PM
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In what way lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:49 PM
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The current status quo in the West will be the one that will get rebelled against Already you have people today championing conservative values as if they're punk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:24 PM
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Girlboss feminism literally killed South Korea lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:22 PM
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There are too many people on the planet. There literally aren't, our species will peak before we exhaust this planet's resource. Stop falling for the overpopulation myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:20 PM
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That's what I want to know. What a masterpiece of propaganda. TIL maths is propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:19 PM
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The majority will still get together. Marry. Have kids. We won’t die out as a species. Buddy we have societies today that are on their way out. South Koreans, the ethnic group, are literally facing extinction if they don't change course drastically within the next 100 years. Japan is the same just on a slightly longer timescale.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:18 PM
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No, the point was "women were considered property in the UK". To which you used marital rape as a justification for that claim. And you're yet to actually prove how that connection makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:48 AM
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It doesn't make you a property of your spouse
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:01 AM
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This is a map for adults 18-25. <image> https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html Less than a quarter of California's young adults show signs of obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:03 PM
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Unrecognised marital rape doesn't mean you are the property of your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:38 PM
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Accepting "any" woman in your life, even abusive, mentally unstable, traitorous, leeching from your resources - is NOT better than being alone. Slow your roll, I've been with hot unstable women before, the trick is to get with them on the short term only, before the craziness starts to show. And it's far better than being alone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:25 AM
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How is the girl kneeling at the bottom in the middle ugly. She's like a 8/10
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:23 AM
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*in America Obesity rate in LA specifically is actually much lower than the national rate. So your statement doesn't even apply in LA
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:21 AM
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I would like for you to justify the subtext of compliance, using nothing but the words written in the article. If you can't do that, have you considered the possibility that you're just making shit up?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:09 AM
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Conclusions that are strawmanning yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:07 AM
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Funny thing is even with all the racist anti-immigrant rhetoric on the internet, immigrants aren’t threatening some kind of “radicalization.” They're only threatening to take away your rights by refusing to assimilate with Western values in Europe for example lmao And even better, they have pro-immigrant allies. Because they’re mature and their biggest concerns aren’t the state of their dicks. You guys just get an echo chamber and a bunch of people on the sidelines snickering and waiting for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:03 AM
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How very mobby. Nice society you got here. It’d be a shame if something were to happen to it. Threatening—I’m sorry—“raising awareness” of incel-based terrorism will only get you treated like every other terrorist. Sadder because you’re not fighting for freedom or religion, just pussy. Pathetic. Pointing out consequences and recognising patterns is now terrorism lmao "Why yes, poor people are more likely to commit violent crimes, poverty is an issue we mustn't let spiral out of control for that …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:00 AM
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No proof = opinion not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:53 PM
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I asked for proof, is reading comprehension hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:50 PM
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Other than the statement being objectively true, where specifically in this sentence do you see "compliance" as a request?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:46 PM
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What demands are being made in the article?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:45 PM
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Lmao if you think social media hasn't majorly contributed to the total radicalisation of multiple groups of people all over the ideological spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:26 PM
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or else he's become radicalized (violent) according to OP do you see why this is not a sincere belief? It's not a an implicit threat, and nowhere in the article does it paint that picture. Stop being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:25 PM
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Where in the article does it claim to want compliance from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:21 PM
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I'd like for proof of the implicit and explicit statements that assume the intent that OP is claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:20 PM
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It's literally not that hard to post evidence, if you have any of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:20 PM
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So you have no proof of the intent you claim it espoused? If not, post the proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:16 PM
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You're gonna link me the reports?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:14 PM
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Where in the article does it say that? If you can't find a quote that says that, then everyone is safe to assume that what you're saying doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:43 PM
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I dare you to link me California's mugging reports in 2020.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:42 PM
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Where in the article does it say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:11 PM
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Bro ignored the first part of my comment. And homicide rates are objectively going up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:19 PM
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You haven't answered my question. How is operating under two different frameworks, actually operating under the same standard applied differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:46 AM
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First one about cities not reporting. Second one about homicides. So what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:28 AM
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That's because many cities no longer factor in robberies and muggings in the stats. https://thefederalist.com/2023/02/16/is-crime-going-down-or-have-democrat-run-cities-just-given-up-on-reporting-it/ As a result, the FBI did not publish any state-level violent crime numbers for California, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey, New Mexico, and Pennsylvania. Further, the entire West region lacked an estimate of violent crimes, murders, and aggravated assaults. Thus, when some, mostly on…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:44 AM
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How is it a double standard when it's two different standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:01 AM
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No it doesn't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:06 PM
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You actually have to develop a personality for that. Specifically the part of your personality that allows you to socially dominate others, which is mostly genetically determined anyways. No, maximise status and looks, at least those actually matter and can be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:38 PM
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The rule is the body count. No, the rule is a set value judgements based on body count for men, and the second rule is a completely different set of value judgements for women. The double comes in when someone is high and they want low as that is a different count rule. Because it's not operating under the same framework, it's literally a different standard that also includes body count. You can either read it as this, which is its intent or protest, whatever. I don't really care what you think …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:26 PM
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Let me say it again nice a slowly wanting someone with a low count, when you have a high count and shitting on those with a similar count is a double standard. Maybe you elected to completely ignore the argument so let me say it again. Two. Different. Standards. Are. Not. A. Double. Standard. It's not about freedom it's about having an expectation of someone you don't have of yourself. With your example it would be hating on people for being fat and only dating skinny people when you yourself ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:21 PM
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How is having two different standards a "double standard"? A double standard in this case would be to allow certain women the freedom to operate at a high n count without judgement, whereas others are not. It's the equivalent of claiming that holding fat people accountable for eating too much is a double standard because Dwayne Johnson can get away with eating 5000 calories a day, when these situations are not comparable at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:09 PM
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You don't know what the black pill means. And you unironically are supporting black pill theory when you claim that niceness breeds no results
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:31 PM
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Denying reality is a strong suit of the blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:11 AM
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It certainly can’t hurt to go see a professional about what is bothering you. Social contagion effect on the rise of mental illnesses disagrees with you. Also, it's a plain waste of money. There's literally no reproducible evidence stating that therapy leads to positive outcomes in men. So at the absolute best possible interpretation of your comment, you're just arguing from a place of ignorance. A more realistic interpretation however would indicate that you say get therapy as a placeholder for…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:18 AM
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I know the answer to that, they'll say "but I can't change my bone structure" then what? what if you can't "just be hot"? Surgery. Kylie Jenner was born mid, look at her now. In the modern world of plastic surgery, leg lengthening, hair transplantation, veneers, etc, you can absolutely become hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:14 AM
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but this is not a math problem you can solve with logic Or maybe you're just allergic to simple, actionable advice. Boil away all the nonsense about self-esteem, insecurity, autism, etc, which miraculously doesn't seem to apply to high status people. And you'll realize that your looks and your game contribute to 90% of your dating success, anything else is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:12 AM
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Lmao a depressed person fits this definition
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:06 AM
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I'll be sure to tell this to my girlfriend when I cheat on her in the club. "No, it wasn't me being super horny and surrounded by familiar feelings, it's actually your fault honey".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:57 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:51 AM
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But that would be insecure. She’s with him. Not all insecurities are bad. There's a reason why they exist. Not wanting your girlfriend hanging around with people she used to fuck is one of those reasons. You people need to parachute down to earth lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:49 AM
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What's been debunked is the hypothesis that we share the alpha/beta paradigm found in wolves. What hasn't and never will be debunked is that social hierarchies exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:15 AM
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Also 9/10 that exceptional case doesn't even exist, or their relationship is so absolutely 1-sided towards the woman it's actually hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:13 AM
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Scientific evidence like dual mating strategies and hypergamy? Considering the red pill started as an attempt to analyse female nature through the lens of empirical, reproducible data, you really don't want to pick this fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:07 AM
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I’ve stopped believing in hypergamy Hypergamy is fundamental, it's based on the universal laws of supply and demand, it's also historically empirically true. I don't understand how you can deny a literal fact. Also the red pill does not claim a value judgement on dread game, it claims that it works, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:02 AM
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I agree, I shudder to think the type of mental gymnastics a person has to do to go from believing that hypergamy is real (and believing all the evidence associated with it) to then start believing it's all made up, for example. It's not like the redpill is a religious institution, going from believing in observed empirical data on female nature to not doing so, is the equivalent of willingly converting to flat earth. Just absolutely delusional, and I really doubt 99% of the legitimate "deconvert…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:00 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:55 PM
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Because in my subjective moral framework, I care about being people delusional. Now to ask you; Why does it matter that I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:48 PM
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Classic model of supply and demand assumes a perfect market. Dating is nowhere close to a perfect market so any attempts to make comparisons really falls flat. I'm sorry, are you seriously going to argue that the dating market isn't affected by supply and demand? Is the dating market in some sort of demonic parallel universe where ugly people have as much SMV as attractive people? What you're doing is called reducto ad absurdum. It's the equivalent of claiming that 1+1=2 isn't a fundamental law …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:48 PM
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How about none. How about rating someone of whether you like them or not. Is it none, or is it "rate them on whether you like them?" Pick one. Male rating systems are only based on if a women is fuckable or not. Only terminally online women think women don't acknowledge or even use a rating system. It doesn't do anyone any good to be rated on fuckability if you are not able to get fucked. That's your opinion, I think sharing a quality judgement is far quicker through a rating system than through…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:35 PM
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Literally everything beyond the fact that you exist is subjective, that's solipsism, and we're not here to debate philosophy. Practically speaking, there's a thing called subjective consensus, through which you can measure human hierarchies. It's the basic universal law of supply and demand, and humans do not supercede supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:31 PM
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it also can be a way to reject the number rating system. I'm curious what rating system do they propose as replacement?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:54 PM
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Why do you always come out swinging with the most reddited takes mankind has ever seen? Because they cant take the “accountability”, that they’re so obsessed with women having, for their own emotional ineptitudes. Misery loves company. What the fuck does taking accountability have to do with women's inflated self-rating? What does the fuck being emotionally inept have to do with someone's delusional self-rating? Stop waffling for god's sake
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:51 PM
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It may be a psychological need for some but it isn't for others. Humans have a psychological need for companionship and human interaction, but interestingly enough our need for sex seems to vary wildly between us. Absolutely zero empirical proof of this whatsoever. Also, astoundingly contradictory considering sex is the ultimate form of companionship and human interaction with the opposite sex. Not everyone feels a negative impact from having no sex, meanwhile social isolation absolutely will ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:52 PM
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You're either European, or you're westernised, either way, your kind is dying off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:45 PM
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Having sex is not a requirement to live. It's a psychological need. Sex does not intrinsically have meaning There's about a billion reasons that justify the act of sex. What the fuck are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:43 PM
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False equivalence. Sex will never ever be as materialistic and detached as money no matter how much women on here wish it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:34 PM
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And no fuckin chin. That's an exaggeration lmao Andrew Tate is a 1%, and I have literally never met a woman that said she wouldn't fuck him, so keep your anecdotes to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:43 AM
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The redpill promotes looksmaxing and statusmaxing before personalitymaxing. Also, Andrew Tate is 6'2 with the body of a Greek god.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:12 AM
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I don't have to calculate this matter the same way you do. Yes, obviously everyone is allowed to be illogical, and unreasonable. The point is why the fuck are women more prone to being illogical and unreasonable by creating these menial shit tests?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:30 AM
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What the actual fuck, what is the statistically significant lifestyle of a symmetrical face?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:59 AM
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Because attractive men (other than myself) have confirmed this observation. This isn't a fantasy being conjured in our heads. Stop gaslighting. Many women, myself included, will reject all advances by complete strangers, regardless of how attractive a guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:58 AM
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The word is banned on this sub because the mods are reddited
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:47 AM
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That's true in younger generations today, because the redpill has gotten mainstream. Before Andrew Tate, the average person would call out your personality before they'd call out the shape of your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:46 AM
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Reiterate my point and then tell me how my point relates to your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:01 PM
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With the many advancements in women's rights more woman than men prefer to be single because that's how they want to live their lives. Then how come the vast majority of young women are in relationships and the majority of young men are not? Not that men are trash partners (but the women centered subreddits are pretty depressing on that respect). So then they do actually merit to be the average woman's boyfriend, correct? If they are worthy, how can you justify women starving in a grocery store?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:05 PM
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It's been disproven many times in scientific literature. No it hasn't, it's literally the leading theory on universal mating strategies in all mammals (not just humans). Gonna need a source on your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:56 PM
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And this is why we don't take your struggles seriously. If you believe the average man isn't worthy of being the average woman's boyfriend/husband you are starving in a grocery store.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:55 PM
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Define the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:47 PM
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The SMV difference between men and women is biological, you can't get around it, you can only equalise it through cultural values like enforced monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:46 PM
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No, the problem is they vet for superficial dumb shit, like looks. This is why back in the day we didn't let hormone fueled young adults pick their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:43 PM
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Lmao https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ Roughly three-in-ten women ages 18 to 29 (32%) are single. Among men, those younger than 30 are by far the most likely to be single: About half of men in this age group (51%) are single. What's the point in writing up a giant wall of text if you didn't even fact check basic shit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:41 PM
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It's very easy for anyone who isn't blinded by feminism into assuming the average man is a piece of trash not worthy of a girlfriend to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:39 PM
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Women having more options doesn’t mean much when many of them aren’t good Sorry but nah, women say this all the time, but the vast majority of modern men are 100% equal to the vast majority of modern women. Women are starving in a grocery store, not a trash dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:36 PM
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Why not Edit: Comments are locked. Most young men are single, most young women are not. Majority of those single men did not approach a woman last year. 30% of men have never approached a woman and 27% have not approached a single woman within a year's time. 45% of men 18-25 have never asked a woman out on a date. 33% of young men have reported having sex once in the past year. 30% have reported having no sex at all. In a study, conducted in 2011, 23% of young adults have reported having two or …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:05 AM
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Right, and I'm responding to your comment, not OP. Do you admit that the vast majority of women are attracted to universal traits which are hard to unnaturally develop for most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:04 AM
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Why, in your opinion, do you think inductive reasoning is not useful enough to make an observed conclusion? Furthermore what is your threshold for replicability before the number of possible false positives becomes low enough for you to accept a conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 12:45 AM
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Then your initial comment is useless. Guys struggle because what I just said applied to the vast majority of women. In the real world, you're not dealing with exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 12:43 AM
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The vast majority of sociological studies are subject to the replication crisis. Fortunately pre-selection isn't one of them. Here's a meta analysis on the benefits of pre-selection when it comes to job hiring. Using inductive reasoning, you can quite easily understand how pre-selection can function similarly in the dating market as well. Preselection is universal, it's the same reason why Harvard prefers legacy students, why famous people tend to come from famous families, and why your company …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 12:42 AM
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Preselection is a biological fact of attraction, it exists in almost every mammalian species, humans are no exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 12:21 AM
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Women are universally attracted to certain traits, yes. Vast majority of women prefer taller men, dominant men, rich men, etc. It's just most of these traits are either genetically determined or extremely hard to acquire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 12:19 AM
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The vast majority of medical testing does not account for racial differences unless if we're specifically targeting an illness that is abnormally present in one racial group.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 12:17 AM
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There is a good reason the incel subreddits were banned. They were banned for the same reason the Donald was banned. They went against the status quo. Reddit is perfectly fine with violence as long as it's aimed at right-wing people. Edit: Also are men here "threatening violence" or are they suggesting that violence is a very probable consequence of the male loneliness epidemic?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 12:06 AM
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I fail to see how RP's description of hypergamy doesn't apply to the vast majority of women as a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:05 PM
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Can you link me an official source of what you think the redpill's view of hypergamy is?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:45 PM
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Well it's not new, and it's an inescapable biological fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:44 PM
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contempt for everything discriminated against or weak Falls flat on its face considering I've never claimed to hold contempt for the weak in all cases. Anyways, nice to see that even the reputable social scientists at California don't know what fascism means.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:42 PM
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"If you victim blame you are a fascist" Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:35 PM
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You do realise because of men's high T count, it is far easier for the average woman to pass the looks threshold, right? It's not at all the same for men. There are perceptively more ugly men than women despite the populations being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:16 PM
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Lmao if you're a full grown adult, and you're complaining about your brand new drug dealing partner emotionally abusing you, then I will 100% victim blame your ass. Grow up, take some responsibility and leave. Y'all are the same type of people who would defend Carmella in the Sopranos as a blameless victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:14 PM
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Except statistically speaking hypergamy is an objective standard Unless if you want to claim that women generally date down?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:11 PM
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Financial abortion, and equal child custody for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:05 PM
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I'd like to see a quote from Jordan Peterson saying any of those things. Or Rollo Tomassi, or Matt Walsh, or Brian, or any "popular pro-male figure" really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:04 PM
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Wow, saving this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 12:59 PM
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Women’s issues get protested and petitioned against too. There are massive national campaigns against abortion, and even against health insurance being allowed to provide basic birth control to women. Male DV shelters literally don't exist, and the ones that do are actively being hunted out of existence by feminists. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/calgary-man-opened-first-shelter-abused-men-commits-200424711.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 12:52 PM
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Yeah, adjusted for "made-to-penetrate" (which isn't coutned as rape for some reason), the stat is actually closer to 60/40 in favour of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 12:48 PM
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It couldn’t be the result of hypergamy. Women haven’t been selecting men for whatever they choose long enough for there to be such a wide spread scourge of frail men. That would be a side effect of allowing poor genes to be passed down because our evolved mate choice process got fucked. It's been two generations since enforced social monogamy stopped being the norm, and the downtrend of "loser men" started in the mid-2000s and is consistently rising now. Can you explain why two generations isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:22 AM
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I actually love this line of reasoning. Let the LGBT find a community that accepts them, we don't need to tolerate their wants and needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:40 AM
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Traditional masculine gender roles have been working just fine for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:35 AM
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If they haven’t been able to git gud in 40 years.. doesn’t that speak of weak stock? Presupposition, you can also easily make the claim that this is the natural result of a hypergamous society. Because of social hierarchies, there will always be a bottom percentile of men in perpetuity. Do you think there weren’t a bunch of weak men then too? What would be done then? Would you just sit in the tavern and complain about how unfair it is that the guys who can actually provide and protect (in a way …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:29 AM
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I'm presupposing that a lot of relationships weren't happy necessarily. That women may have put up with worse behaviour than they would have otherwise would have. Show proof that most women at that time were unhappy in their relationship. The second part of your statement is literally an unfalsifiable claim (and thus also unjustifiable), I have no idea why you're expecting anyone reading this to believe it at face value. Not really. Enforced monogamy as in you should only be with one partner is …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:25 AM
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We already have an answer to hypergamy that actually works though; culturally enforced monogamy. We've been trying to "git gud" for the past 40 years, and the situation has only gotten worse on both sides. Inevitably if we don't figure out a solution to the problem, cultures that value families, kids and traditional lifestyles will replace the childfree liberal feminists. So this is a problem that'll solve itself anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:03 AM
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But yes sure, you actually need a woman to desire you now for her to want you. Oh no, how terrible So there's many things I have a gripe with in your statement. Particularly the anachronistic feminist lens through which you see world history. 1) You're presupposing that the majority of women did not desire their partners during our grandfathers era. 2) You're presupposing that enforced cultural monogamy was unpopular amongst women. 3) You're presupposing that gender roles are inherently oppressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:00 AM
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If it's so obvious show proof. It's so obvious that you're character assassinating because you have no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:52 AM
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Literally no man does this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:48 PM
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No one here denies that men are looks crazed. We're just trying to get you guys to admit it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:15 PM
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Can you please explain how you managed to link bipolarity with dark triad? As far as I'm concerned "being nuts" has nothing to do with dark triad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:12 PM
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Because they're hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:11 PM
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That’s not even in question, or else I wouldn’t have a career. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis#:~:text=The%20same%20paper%20examined%20the,and%2038%25%20for%20Psychological%20Science. The same paper examined the reproducibility rates and effect sizes by journal and discipline. Study replication rates were 23% for the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 48% for Journal of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory, and Cognition, and 38% for Psychological Science. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:14 PM
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Bro the women on this sub actually live in an alternate universe lmao If my wife's parents found out I was a lazy, hobo stay at home husband they would do the sane thing and disown me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:37 PM
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I meant physically restrain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:07 AM
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It's hard for a woman to control a teenage boy as well. Most of these women are fucking 15 year olds, not 11 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:53 AM
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Women value niceness in men about as much as men value a woman with a PhD. Dark triad traits are universally attractive, and they are the quintessential antonyms of nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:44 AM
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,Wouldn't 99% of people agree with this? I feel like RP must mean something moe than this, because this is akin to saying that exercise is good for you. Not controversial, and no one really disagrees. Well that's clearly not true. The mainstream likes only feel-good statements like "men should improve their social skills"; remember this is the same collective that thinks "just be yourself" is an actionable advice. The red pill offers an actual strategy that actually works, and blue-pilled men an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:41 AM
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Examples; Women are hypergamous, women value the dual mating strategy, women perpetuate alpha fucks/beta bucks, etc. Some axioms here include commentary on female nature; https://www.reddit.com/r/AlreadyRed/s/uiclFxq5Xm
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:34 AM
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This is not a bad comparison. As a red-piller, the field of economics is also a social science that observes and analyses human action. So it would make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:29 AM
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You do realise you're bragging about fucking a hobo who lives around in your house rent free right? What kind of self respecting woman would tolerate this shit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:19 AM
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There is no reproducible empirical study that conclusively states therapy is an effective treatment for men. Men dont go to therapists though, Men have been going to therapy now more than ever, it's just that therapy is an ineffective solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:15 AM
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Lmao they're more in touch with reality than the "just be confident bro" do-gooders. As I've explained in my post, you can't "just be confident", it's a fucking meme, you're better off just getting plastic surgery and hope for the best at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:39 AM
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i dont care enough about your character to assassinate Then why did you do it lmao if you really want to know i've heard incels make the same argument Yeah and Hitler liked dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:46 PM
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I think you mean character assassination attempt lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:24 PM
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Then don't invoke me not talking to women as a counterargument. What part of my post makes me "sound like an incel"? Specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:19 PM
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Why is said cortisol releasing if you're calm and competent? Doesn't work that way for me at least. It's why I've never been nervous talking to new people, man, woman, or child. Uniforms though, people in uniforms make me nervous, but that's just a lifetime of reinforcement. Conversations with people in uniforms leads to handcuffs, which leads to...you get the idea. Sorry, a lifetime of observation leads me to believe that people who display nervousness tend to do poorly with people compared to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:17 PM
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I'm literally in a relationship. Edit: I can post proof if that's what it would take for you to take my argument seriously lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:12 PM
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You don't think I can be sure I am good at something while having cortisol releasing into my body as I'm doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:59 PM
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You just contradicted yourself. A critical mass of woman is per definition NOT ALL women. So it's absolutely true that how worthwhile a skill is varies for each woman. Definition of each; to, for, or by every one of a group (used after a noun or an amount). I did not contradict myself, a critical mass of women is not every individual within a group, it is referring to a plural collective. They do not vary for each woman, they vary for a small minority of women. You do not need to be attractive t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:24 PM
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Self conscious is usually a stand-in for insecurity in these discussions. Anyways, the point still stands, self-conscious self-assured about what? Bytheway, you can be nervous and confident, these aren't conflicting states of being.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:12 PM
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Self conscious about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:05 PM
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But a person can be confident in a situation even if they have no experience or "competence" with that situation. Yes a person can be delusional; Dunning-Kruger effect. A confident person, in the absence of competence in a field, will still feel okay in acknowledging that they don't have competence, because they aren't afraid of what will happen to them even IF they don't know what to do. Because they have confidence that it will turn out okay. Except fake confidence in the context of attracting…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:43 PM
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What constitutes a worthwhile skill is different for every woman and also dependent on your social group, the other men. No, social clusters exist, social hierarchies exist, consensus on universal attraction exist. Worthwhile skills are worthwhile because they are in high demand by a critical mass of women, they do not "vary according to each woman", that would be ignorant of reality. You can at best claim that exceptions exist but in the real world you're not dealing with exceptions. You do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:36 PM
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My overarching point is that competence = confidence, and if you're incompetent at something you cannot actually confident yourself into success. None of what you said disagrees with this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:21 PM
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Speaking up in social settings. Actually going out to social settings. Like raising your voice? Being unquestionably firm in your opinion? Simply giving your opinion? Can you be more specific please. This simply is not true. There are tons of competent men who have social anxiety, who are shy, or who just have a reserved and humble personality. Social "confidence" is buffered by competency, but it's its own independent personality trait. If confidence is detached from competence, can you please …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:19 PM
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Yes, you're confident in the ability to attain other skills, which is proven by a track record of attaining other skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:13 PM
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Your first paragraph literally agrees with me, your confidence is supported by your competences in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:27 PM
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We are talking about outward displays of confident behavior in social situations. The point is that guys who have skills, abilities, and assets might still make themselves small in these contexts. The point isn't whether or not they think they are good at their jobs or hobbies or whatever. Confidence is self-assuredness, can you please define "outward displays of confident behaviour"? They often don't know what they are capable of if they are not putting themselves in a position to try. To "char…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:25 PM
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As someone who used to very much dislike themselves, and now very much likes myself, confidence is more a state than anything else. I’m confident not in any particular area, but just in myself in general. I don’t need to be proficient in whatever I’m doing to be confident, because I’m confident in my ability to learn and excel in whatever situation I’m in. And even if I fail, I know my worth compared to the world around me doesn’t diminish any of my positive qualities. I mean that's great and al…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:13 PM
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The reverse case - people who are competent but not confident - reveals this. There are plenty of reserved, humble, shy, anxious, etc. men who don't behave as confidently as their competency would predict. Telling these guys to "fake" that part of the equation isn't setting them up to expose themselves as frauds. It's advice to get out of their own way. 1) It is extremely rare for a person to be competent in something and still lack confidence in their abilities. In fact, the Dunning-Kruger effe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:08 PM
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That's why watching two lesbians date is comical as fuck, like an eternal game of chicken
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:00 PM
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I'm 99% sure they mean self-assuredness. Regardless, having the balls to do something stupid, doesn't actually make what you're doing not stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:17 PM
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Good thing we're debating inter/intrapersonal gender dynamics then. If you're immune to evidence What evidence? Saying "I actually didn't know what I was talking about and have nothing to back it up" is not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:39 PM
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I didn't know asking a feminist to justify her claim is being annoying. Don't enter a debate sub if you don't want to debate
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:50 AM
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Well then feminism is rooted in abstract fantasy. Women and men are biologically, socially, and psychologically not the same and they never will be. All feminism will accomplish is the slow death of western society as the more naturally congruent patriarchal societies will outbirth and replace the dead-ended white feminists. Congratulations you played yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:14 AM
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Can you concisely point out some of the societal privileges that can be empirically measured, and are inherently present only to a person who is a male?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:10 AM
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Not only that but the vast majority of feminist literature explicitly goes out of its way to state that female problems take priority over male problems. They are not egalitarian in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:51 AM
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Cap
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:49 AM
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~60% of women in the same age group consider themselves in a relationship. The average age difference between couples is 2.1 years. You want to argue that women are just cheating on the people they're in a relationship with to fuck those single men? https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:44 PM
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What exactly inherently invalidates the chadfish experiments?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:37 PM
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When women describe attraction to men, they are referring to his appearance, their rapport, shared values and interests, his sense of humor, attitude, and behavior. Do you want me to link you some juicy chadfish experiments? All you have to do is ask. Women will sleep with child raping fucking Nazis if they're physically attractive or high status. This is a fact. Personality is an actual meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:26 PM
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Genetically we have twice the female ancestors as males — not all men are meant to breed. I'd like to find a study for this that accounts for the natural rate of death amongst males at the time. I'd also like to find one that's actually been reproduced multiple times. Most average men find love so it’s a skill issue. 60% of men 18-25 are single. Clearly a skill issue lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:24 PM
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Just a reminder that 60% of men 18-25 are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:21 PM
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