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| – | Men are more superficial about weight than womenWomen are willing to lower their standards for an LTR- I mean, the realistic ones are, anyway. A fat woman will sleep with a fat guy (Hi, hello, I'm right here. For reference, Im 5'7" and 220). But most men- even fat ones- will not entertain the idea of LTR with a real fat woman (over 400 lbs). I married a "healthy weight" guy with horrible eating habits, a dead end job, multiple kids with multiple women and a 3 page criminal background. I love him and would never leave but... I used to wish one… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 07:49 AM |
| – | Men are more superficial about weight than womenWhat I'm trying to demonstrate was that the fattest women are not just 400 lbs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 07:19 AM |
| 2 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenI would have married and been faithful to them. They checked out of the relationship long before I did... good try though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenNow, who is being dense. We aren't talking about a company requirement. An actual requirement: like to be a doctor you have to got to medical school. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:53 AM |
| 1 | Men are more superficial about weight than women... if every interview requires a degree he doesn't have, it won't matter how many he goes to. And that's really what we are talking about not meeting minimum requirements for an LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:49 AM |
| -1 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenHe won't get one. She will get a bunch of casual matches but no LTR ones with gainful employment. But that's more because ladies read profiles before we match instead of wasting our time on someone no seeking the same things we are. But that doesn't matter here nor there. Also where are you from where any woman gets 100 matches? I have a newly divorced friend who is cute, skinny and childless and she has gotten 30 and all of them wanted casual sex but she's 32. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:45 AM |
| 1 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenCreepy is "You've been staring at me, but haven't approached me. And I feel uneasy." I felt unease at the gas station when I was approached by a man asking for directions because he approached too quickly from behind me. I don't think he was being preverted- he wanted directions. He was very jittery (drugs?). His actions were creepy. That is how it's used in the street. I I thought he was nefarious, I would call him a pervert. Because there's a word for that and I'd use it. But he wasn't being a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenEven the fattest women (i.e. over 400 pounds) The fattest woman alive is 1102 lbs. Also, I prefer fat men. But whatever, I'm a minority. I like to have sex with someone who's hip bones don't bruise my thighs. Also, this may be a location thing but the midwest is full of fat men in relationships with slightly over weight women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:27 AM |
| -1 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenOk. But both are searching for LTR and will not do casual sex. Any match that is not into LTR or doesn't have a job doesn't count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:21 AM |
| 3 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenI dated fat men. It was awesome. They treated me like a princess but would refuse to commit because they thought I would eventually move on to someone who was thinner. All of them were kind and considerate- I am overweight and average looking. Maybe ugly to some. Always, when the relationship ended, their fat friends would hit me up, but I think it's rude to date an ex's friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:58 AM |
| 1 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenCreepy does not mean that. Creepy means to cause unease. If she wanted to call him a p3do, she would. Creepy may IMPLY that to you, but it's not what most of us mean and it's definitely not in the definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:53 AM |
| 5 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenSource? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:49 AM |
| – | Men are more superficial about weight than womenNo. Fit ugly men can have trouble getting laid, so of course fat men will get laid less. The threshold for "will fuck" is higher for women than men. Some men will fuck a bag of potatoes. Just like there are more successful women on OF than men- and the men who are successful are targeting men, not women. If a woman lowers her standards enough, no matter her looks or weight, she will get laid. If a man lowers his standards, nothing may happen. The world is a dick farm- and a pussy desert. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:47 AM |
| 4 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenAre those women in relationships? Or just a casual "my friends can't know I fucked a whale" fuck? Yes, overweight and obese women can get laid, but is that their choice or just a matter of circumstance? Is he too lazy to find someone he finds attractive, too horny, or obese himself? There are a ton of articles that link abuse and obesity, as well. So, even if she's in a relationship, it is less likely to be a healthy one, while obese men are less likely to have any sexual or romantic relationshi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 05:40 AM |
| 6 | The idea that we live in a “hookup culture” and that a significant number of women are having an abundance of casual sex is a myth. Most women have zero interest in casual sex and have a limited number of sexual partners in their lifetime.Yes. But then those other partners also have 4 other partners? How is Chad getting high numbers, and the women are staying low? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 05:50 PM |
| 14 | The idea that we live in a “hookup culture” and that a significant number of women are having an abundance of casual sex is a myth. Most women have zero interest in casual sex and have a limited number of sexual partners in their lifetime.No- sex positive is like when Beth and Jerry watched porn together and had sex with Mr. Nimbus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 05:30 PM |
| 22 | The idea that we live in a “hookup culture” and that a significant number of women are having an abundance of casual sex is a myth. Most women have zero interest in casual sex and have a limited number of sexual partners in their lifetime.If the ratio is 5:1, women are doing that more than men... casual sex is not completely contained in hookup culture. You've completely missed the uncommitted relationship aspect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 05:28 PM |
| – | CMV: It's perfectly valid for men to want a low N woman BECAUSE he's insecure about his sexual performance compared to all of her other loversLet's try another tactic, how many of your friends had or have a low n inexperienced partner that they were patient enough to "teach". I am 33. Define was "Low" is. If it's less than 5, every one of us - there's 7 of us - had a low number partner at one point or another. Usually, these relationships end with the guy wanting more experience with different women. 3 separate women decided to open the relationship so he could get more experience before they settled down and got married. After marria… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 05:59 AM |
| – | CMV: It's perfectly valid for men to want a low N woman BECAUSE he's insecure about his sexual performance compared to all of her other loversNo one is speaking in bad faith- you cannot fathom a psychology different than your own. Women and men have a different psychology when it comes to sex. I want you to look deep into your heart and tell me, do you think there is an abundance of patient high n women that will give a virgin men repeated changes to fumble and get it right? Yes. If there are many other positive things about him and he's willing to learn- absolutely. You think Chad is naturally good at sex? No. He developed a skill, j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 02:58 AM |
| 1 | CMV: It's perfectly valid for men to want a low N woman BECAUSE he's insecure about his sexual performance compared to all of her other loversMy guess is that those women are rare. Not really. If you are relationship material and have chemistry, then those are rarer than a good lay. It is worth being patient. If a woman likes having lots of good sex why wouldn't she leave you and have sex with better partners? Because great sex often comes attached to crazy and drama and non-attachment and a bunch of other negatives. You're acting like sex is the only reason to be in a relationship with someone, and it's not. You can be great at sex a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 12:10 AM |
| 1 | CMV: It's perfectly valid for men to want a low N woman BECAUSE he's insecure about his sexual performance compared to all of her other loversSure. But keep making an effort to get better- then it won't change. Actually- that's pretty much the entire relationship aspect- "Never Stop Trying". Try to be better financially, emotionally, sexually... and this foes for both participants. If she stops trying, then she's taking you for granted and the relationship is over anyway. This is the same for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 10:45 PM |
| 3 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isAdvanced hygiene is an indication to income or wealth You countered with "Poor People have healthcare" and I rebutted with "Poor people may have access to health care but are still unable to use it. Proper Healthcare is still very much for not Poor people" Eating healthy regularly is very much for the middle class and above You could have just re-read the comment chain, but alas... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Men usually don't care about how much a woman earns, but men should care about how high her debt isAccess to health care can be given to Burger King eomployees and kids that work at the mall? Those are government mandated minimum health insurance. They cover birth control, a physical and major injury. They have high out-of-pockets that often exceed the employee's yearly salary, high deductibles that can't be afforded, and usually an in-network doctor that is overbooked. Everyone has access to healthcare- not many of us can afford to use it. Another Point: Healthy food is expensive. I lived on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 05:26 PM |
| 2 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menYou claim that men want women on their financial level, and that’s simply not a priority for men at all. Right. It doesn't stop me from wanting that in a mate, though. Money is Power. I want a man that doesn't want that power over me. And who doesn't want my power for himself. If he is OK supporting a Barista, then he probably would be wasting his time with the woman doctor. You think most HVM want a pretty boat anchor? Or a moderately attractive partner? He may fuck the girl at Starbucks but he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 05:11 PM |
| 3 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menA male doctor will date a college dropout working at Starbucks if she’s attractive. It depends on the male doctor. A quality mate will not want to support the Starbucks girl. A HVM wants someone emotionally and financially on his level. If anything it hurts her options because she will feel she is “too good” for men with less education. I don't think this hurts her at all. This sentence reeks of "I don't understand career women." The quality of man is higher, but there are less of them which mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 04:53 PM |
| 1 | CMV: It's perfectly valid for men to want a low N woman BECAUSE he's insecure about his sexual performance compared to all of her other loversI'll be honest- the best lay I've ever had, we hooked up 3-4 times and then I never called him again. I don't remember his name. I do remember that my ears would start ringing whenever he spoke because he was so, so, so, so dumb. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 05:01 AM |
| 4 | CMV: It's perfectly valid for men to want a low N woman BECAUSE he's insecure about his sexual performance compared to all of her other loversThe insecurity isn't about the woman, though. It's about the man who didn't need to have to have any traits, except being good-looking, for her to hook up with him. Oh- so you're completely understanding the woman's perspective on being in a romantic relationship with a fuckboy- but for some reason some men think "Fuck Boy" and HV man are synonymous. They would have to do things in addition to whatever they look like: spending time, money, and energy on a girl to get her to desire him. And now y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 04:58 AM |
| 4 | CMV: It's perfectly valid for men to want a low N woman BECAUSE he's insecure about his sexual performance compared to all of her other lovers"he's a really great guy, but he can't compare to Chad. That guy made me cum so hard!" You're missing the between the lines bit- Chad isn't here. You are. Ask her how to make her cum- all good sex is is really good communication. There are no tricks. That guy asked some questions to other women, took the answers, whipped them into his standard sexual experience then, in the moment, took some cues from body language to do X more, do Y less. Ta-Da. Magic. It's actually better if a guy has less exp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 11:53 PM |
| 14 | CMV: It's perfectly valid for men to want a low N woman BECAUSE he's insecure about his sexual performance compared to all of her other loversNo. Relationships are chapters in our lives. Hookup Chad has no name and is listed in the footnotes. You're comparing yourself to the wrong men, dude. Chad can't keep my attention with a six pack and a foot long dick- but the slightly nerdy guy with a mint condition Chewbacca kept me infatuated for a couple of months- every day, all day long. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 11:39 PM |
| 2 | Being a woman was not easierReally high quality women, the type of women men want to date and share a life with, are very sought after and are usually in serious long term relationships by the time they're in their mid 20s They are also the ones who often are not looking to settle down or compromise their way of life to be a submissive wife. (I don't think I was HRV but you just described me and my friends at 20. We were all married by 23 and had a least turned down one proposal before then.) As soon as that woman is ready… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 11:26 PM |
| -1 | Being a woman was not easier"You" is not You, but rather a genal statement. So they probably meant something more like Darling, a person's worth as a woman is in how pretty they look. They go on dates and they clearly see that the guy is only putting up with the chats to get it over with and try to get them in bed. The statement stands. And hold true in my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 10:10 PM |
| 12 | Women over value how much their career and education is attractive to menOoh- no. Women A chooses to become a doctor. She does this purely for her own desires, and her own dreams. We're on the same page here. Nobody elses but hers. In medical school, she starts to seek out men , but now that she has made it to med school, she feels she deserves more attractive men. That's not what happens. Because of her degree- her options have become greater. She can date someone her level of attractiveness and education OR date someone with lower education but more attractive. Thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 08:27 PM |
| 2 | If women aren't sexually motivated like men are, what motivates sex drive in women who enjoy sex with multiple different people? If not those people being endowed with certain bodily blessings?Idk about all the other women- but I do not fuck people I want to be in a relationship with. Those people get effort, time, compassion, passion, committment, attention... Sure, I've ended up in LTRs from a FWB- but that was a solid discussion. Never has a ONS became a FWB. Commitment seems to just find the people who don't need to be attached. It's kinda weird that way. I've dated mostly fucked strangers, dated friends, once, married the best fit. I got married at 21. If you would asked me at 20… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 08:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women don't have unrealistic dating standards, they just seem that way in comparison to men's terribly low ones.Really? so a man pumping and dumping a woman who wants an ltr isn't being taken advantage of by the guy who just wants an easy nut? or the woman who uses a man for his money isn't being taken advantage of? That's not what is happening- most ONS, FWB, casual hookups know what is happening before it happens. The woman looking for an LTR is not going to be an easy nut- why do you think most of us have guidelines for that? If I like you, we aren't sleeping together very easily. If I just wanna fuck,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 08:23 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women don't have unrealistic dating standards, they just seem that way in comparison to men's terribly low ones.No it doesn't, having people be realistic stops people taking advantage of others, makes society better and the woman who lowered her standards. We are realistic- you just don't fit in the category your mom says you do. No one is taking advantage of anyone. Women, generally, want an equal- both partners not being perfect but perfect for each other. If we lower the standard, well, we can't- TLC said "No Scrubs" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 07:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women don't have unrealistic dating standards, they just seem that way in comparison to men's terribly low ones.Where did I say I wanted to turn them down? So you want them to lower their standards to give you a fight chance? i want them to have realistic standards as it will benefit everyone. This only benefits the subset of people that were not in their league before- no one else; not the people in both subsets, not the woman who lowered her standards, not people outside the "realistic standards" category. I see you haven't met a woman who got rejected. Well, no, because usually men approach me so...my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 07:03 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women don't have unrealistic dating standards, they just seem that way in comparison to men's terribly low ones.So- you want the ability to turn those people down? They have an expectation and you do not meet it. You want them to lower theirs too benefit your numbers game? That would be like a woman below your standards asking you to lower your standards- that's super narcissisic Imagine it. A woman stamping her feet because some man turned her down. Dude- we just move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 05:39 PM |
| 2 | The average woman is completely delusional about men's income and what they "qualify" for.That's why the 1-10 scale sucks. Everyone has different definitions of what they mean. Not really. Attractive enough to sleep with? Sure. Attractive enough to bring around my friends? Hard maybe. Attractive enough to date/marry? Probably not. IMO- that's a 4-5. A 3 is someone you go home with while intoxicated and wake up with hangover/post nut clarity. Slink out of their house, hoping no one saw you leave with them. Hope you never see them again 4 is someone you fuck but would be ok with your f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 04:33 PM |
| 2 | Women should admit it is kind of a privilege that they essentially control the couple's social lifeIt's cause and effect- if men didn't seek woman's attention, then Ladies' Night wouldn't exist. The last place I'd want to be as a married woman is a Ladies' Night. I actively avoid such gatherings because they are an invitation to be hit on. If men, as a whole, decided to no longer try to get women's attention, Ladies' Night wouldn't be an effective advertising tool and would no longer exist. Just like all the other benefits of being a woman- no free drinks, women would be forced to approach me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 12:09 AM |
| 5 | Women should admit it is kind of a privilege that they essentially control the couple's social lifeWomen get 'ladies nights' and all other manner of preferential treatment in social venues. That's a fair point but when there was not a ladies night, there are less ladies in general- it's an advertising mechanism to get women to go out and men will flock to a Ladies night because women are there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 09:45 PM |
| 0 | is what germaine greer actaully says true?Improvise, adapt, overcome. Industry, in general, would take a hit but population would not cease to exist like it would without a uterus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 09:41 PM |
| 8 | is what germaine greer actaully says true?How 'essential' are they? You think human kind came into existence after indoor plumbing? All those jobs are for convenience. We would be able to survive but not thrive, probably very uncomfortably. But the human race would not have to die. You're also discounting that there are plenty of working women who do "men" jobs. The most uncomfortable part would be losing most of the population- and that would be an issue no matter what. The non-traditional country life- too. Do you think Hank Williams … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Men can't determine whether a woman is " post wall" or even overweight/obeseNot what I said- your perception of their age and health is not hard data based on their looks. Attractiveness is subjective and completely preference. But don't dilute yourself thinking that "looks young and healthy" is the same as "is young and healthy." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Men can't determine whether a woman is " post wall" or even overweight/obeseAssuming that being in different life stages would be negative is just as discriminatory. What is the "facts" behind prefering an older male partner? Maturity is just assumed. Wait- are you equating a looks based assumption with an experience based assumption? So assuming someone is older or or younger because of how you attribute their age and writing them off (usually without speaking to them) is exactly the same as someone who takes a piece of hard data and makes a judgment call based on thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Men can't determine whether a woman is " post wall" or even overweight/obeseWanting someone who looks young and is slim is also not discrimination? Looks young and slim or is young and slim? Because that's two different things. One is preference, the other is not. If a girl is 21 but looks 26, will you date her because she is 21 or pass her up because she looks 26? If a girl has a naturally fast metabolism but doesn't take care of herself, is that a pass? What about a woman on a weight loss journey- are you passing because she's not where you want her to be right now or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 07:18 AM |
| 2 | What is the source of men's motivation for working hard?They do if they look for the broke af, slutty women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:51 AM |
| 12 | What is the source of men's motivation for working hard?As a woman, I can say the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 02:48 AM |
| 2 | Men can't determine whether a woman is " post wall" or even overweight/obeseSo all the women who go "eww" when they learn that a man is younger than them are not discriminating? All the young women who set an age range on their dating app that is max 10 years older than them is not discriminating by age? Wanting to be in the same stage of life is not discrimination. Wanting a mature mate is not discrimination. If you lost weight, your tits, ass and thighs would get smaller and your back wouldn't hurt so much. If I lost weight, my tits stay the same. It's not true for al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Men can't determine whether a woman is " post wall" or even overweight/obeseAh- but there are exceptions? Right? Some women like old men. Some women like young men. Some women like fat men. Some women like tall men. Some women don't care about height. If you subscribe to RP, those men only like young, fit women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 12:10 AM |
| 2 | Men can't determine whether a woman is " post wall" or even overweight/obeseThe difference being men will discriminate against a woman for her attributed age or weight. When women will not do the same to men, typically. I carry weight in a weird way- mostly my thighs, ass and tits. Clinically, I am overweight- but I do not look like my weight. If I carried weight in my stomach, I probably would have less back problems due to a thicker core supporting my tits. I can probably lose like 20 pounds and be fine, but more than that my back would be even worse. As a teenager, I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Men create all the things, women create all the people. Both genders are fundamentally necessary and go through struggles to give their contribution. Men who don't appreciate the contribution of women are fundamentally divorced from the realities of life.I made choices that made their lives harder- even if that weren't true- I still support their parent and can empathize with people that suffer because of other's choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 03:11 AM |
| 4 | Redpill dudes, do you actually believe rich men date broke women?The pretty girl working at Walmart isn't dating a doctor but she is dating a plumber that's making 90,000 a year I will go find the source for this. But most under educated women will date and marry men that make less or have a lower social standing. Couples in which both spouses had very low levels of education appeared to be an exception to this pattern: The tendency for women to marry up in income did not differ significantly between couples in which both spouses had less than a high school e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Women are valued for what they are, Men are valued for what they provideSpecifically "Girl Boss", "Female Engineer", even "Male Nurse" ... gender doesn't really matter. I figured it was kind of tautological that a women's league would necessarily have the rule of being "Women only", by its very nature. So claiming they have different rules kind of implies something else lol. I don't watch all sports but I thought maybe there were court size changes or goal sizes- I wasn't sure. I was just covering bases. Do all woman's sports have the exact same rules and regulation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Men create all the things, women create all the people. Both genders are fundamentally necessary and go through struggles to give their contribution. Men who don't appreciate the contribution of women are fundamentally divorced from the realities of life.You said people shouldn't procreate to save the planet even though fertility rates are plummeting and there might be an irreversible population crash very soon. That's about as misanthropic as it gets. I don't dislike mankind- you can look at a set of facts and understand a solution without liking the solution. We have done irreversible damage to the planet. We need the planet to continue to provide us with our habitat- air, food, clean water. The best way to reduce our impact is to reduce our p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 07:24 PM |
| 6 | Men create all the things, women create all the people. Both genders are fundamentally necessary and go through struggles to give their contribution. Men who don't appreciate the contribution of women are fundamentally divorced from the realities of life.... I don't hate men. I don't think life is meaningless, and society is pretty ok. I don't think I am hateful, either. Realist, not a Cynic. Women do difficult jobs but we are treated like garbage on construction sites, barely tolerated in some male-prominent professions, disregarded or distrusted in others because some men don't think we are capable. Why would I put my life in the hands of someone who thinks i am incompetent or treats me like a piece of meat? Those dangerous jobs require trust … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 04:51 PM |
| 3 | Men create all the things, women create all the people. Both genders are fundamentally necessary and go through struggles to give their contribution. Men who don't appreciate the contribution of women are fundamentally divorced from the realities of life.I'm not even talking sanitation though not gross jobs, more like dangerous jobs. What is preventing women from obtaining these jobs? Women tend to take less risk- but that doesn't mean that- if they had to be done and a men didn't exist, that they still wouldn't get done. Maybe even, more safely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 02:16 PM |
| 0 | Men create all the things, women create all the people. Both genders are fundamentally necessary and go through struggles to give their contribution. Men who don't appreciate the contribution of women are fundamentally divorced from the realities of life.It is really neive to think that you can forecast what your financial position will be for the next 18 years. The problem is that the potential for suffering is too high to assume your child will go through life not having any. And having children is pure vanity. So- for vanity sake, you're introducing the most important person in your life to suffering. Your optimism is enviable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Men create all the things, women create all the people. Both genders are fundamentally necessary and go through struggles to give their contribution. Men who don't appreciate the contribution of women are fundamentally divorced from the realities of life.I think your attitude is more than problem than the reality of being a mom. I mean if you could raise kids with actual love then you'd get to be happy in your older years enjoying having grandkids etc there are real benefits. I have kids. I don't regret them. I adore them and shower them in affection. But I also realize the reality that they are in. I do regret that they had to suffer through their childhoods with young parents. You think I'll have grandkids- probably not. I enjoy them, but thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Marriage is not worth it for women who do not marry richYet accounting for all housework, including child care, men still work more hours than women. Yet you never hear about men's unacknowledged labour, as usual women have the be the victims despite working fewer hours than men overall including housework/childcare. Can I have a source for this? This says otherwise. And this. Your personal experience vs the stats. I think I'll go with the stats, no offence but your personal experience is meaningless when we're discussing general statements. Your sou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 01:38 PM |
| 4 | Men create all the things, women create all the people. Both genders are fundamentally necessary and go through struggles to give their contribution. Men who don't appreciate the contribution of women are fundamentally divorced from the realities of life.I also think a lot of women are kind of delusional to how much or society relies on men and jobs women cannot or will not do. I think women, in general, have a habit of picking up Men's slack. Prior to WWI, it was thought that women didn't want to work- but given the opportunity we supported the war effort to an extent that when the men came back, we didn't want to give them their jobs back. Nursing is messier with longer hours than sanitation work. There is no job women "wont" do - there are on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 12:47 PM |
| 8 | Men create all the things, women create all the people. Both genders are fundamentally necessary and go through struggles to give their contribution. Men who don't appreciate the contribution of women are fundamentally divorced from the realities of life.The benefits of child rearing are so little and the detriments are so great- and the risks are unfathomable. Women don't value it.even seem to resent the notion they should. I disagree with this. There are more expectations for us now. We are supposed to be independent and educated, working to the benefit of humanity- the same expectations put on men but also- have more babies. And when the babies come- you some how have to be super mom and super wife and still career path Barbie. And, for what?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 12:38 PM |
| 2 | Men create all the things, women create all the people. Both genders are fundamentally necessary and go through struggles to give their contribution. Men who don't appreciate the contribution of women are fundamentally divorced from the realities of life.Asking the real questions. Is it sexist or just the straight up facts that giving birth is the greatest achievement a woman can do. Giving Birth is the greatest thing a woman can do- but it's not the only thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Marriage is not worth it for women who do not marry richIt's all of those things. When women choose to participate/perpetuate in hook up culture, they purposely increase the risk (again) so they aren't taking the risks seriously. That's not how risk really works. By not participating, I am not at risk. If I choose to be sexually active, I am at high risk. If I mitigate my risk, and choose to be sexually active, my risk is low but still exists. Women choose to have children. Men don't give birth. We are talking about the risk of pregnancy here. Poor f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 12:21 PM |
| 2 | Women are valued for what they are, Men are valued for what they provideIf a man cannot have children, does that lower his worth? Does it lower a man’s worth if he can’t produce a good income? No. In general, if he can support himself- how does his meager paycheck affect me? Women sometimes may find that insulting, but honestly I believe that that is part of women so they should be feel bad for being values for what they are, even if it is fertility or motherhood, because the fact women can creat life is so great that women shall not see that capacity as an insult, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 11:52 AM |
| 2 | Marriage is not worth it for women who do not marry richOtherwise, they would minimize their exposure to said risk to the market clearing level (or purchase insurance to minimize the risk) but that's not happening. What is birth control, if not mitigation of risk? What is Plan B, if not insurance? What is abortion, if not a failsafe? Your risk assessment mechanism shows up in the price of a product. Sure does. Men risk paying child support- they are risking their livelihoods and future. Where's there risk assessment failing? Why no analysis on that? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 11:51 AM |
| 1 | Marriage is not worth it for women who do not marry richMen just want a woman with a baseline attractiveness that makes them feel good. That's incredibly shallow and not true. Have you been in a relationship- because most women feel like they do a bunch of unacknowledged work in the home. So saying you want someone just attractive, but would be perfectly fine if she couldn't cook, hated to clean, and couldn't run a household is just... false. A man's status and income are important to women to the point where higher-earning women who can easily suppo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 11:43 AM |
| 3 | Women are valued for what they are, Men are valued for what they provideNobody created "Women's Sports Ball" to keep women out, they created it so that women could still play, in an environment that is a more level playing field for them. I don't know where you got the idea that I misunderstood this. Woman's sports ball has different rules- one, in particular- you have to be a woman. If we want to look at fairness like you're suggesting, wouldn't it be more fair if high school boys could play on professional women's teams? Uh- no. Because I wasn't suggesting that we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 11:34 AM |
| 2 | Women are valued for what they are, Men are valued for what they provideThat sounds like she wanted to be borderline abusive and blame it on PMS and wanted to make sure you've had experience with hostile work environments. You probably wouldn't want to work for her anyway- to assume all women lead the same way is moronic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 11:24 AM |
| 5 | Women are valued for what they are, Men are valued for what they provide"Woman Boss" is an insult, FYI. It's like anything else- if you are calling out my gender or sexual identity or race- it's not a compliment. Ever. Notice how Men's Sports Ball is just "Sports Ball" and woman's includes gender- it's to create a separation because the rules are different. "Woman Boss" or "Woman Doctor" implies that there is a different set of rules for her- but there shouldn't be and, often, isn't. She is a doctor- her prefix is no longer gendered, and neither is her profession. s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 12:05 AM |
| 3 | Marriage is not worth it for women who do not marry richNot "Unconditional" love. Romantic Love is conditional. Conditional on my partner being faithful, communicative, common goals and values, attention. And it's mutual- if her love is based on the amount in your bank account, she's not really ready for a real relationship anyway- because that number fluctuates. Parental Love is unconditional, usually- unless your parent is a Narcissist. But that's really all we get- if we are lucky. All women's love is based on what their man can do for them. This … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 11:43 PM |
| 2 | Marriage is not worth it for women who do not marry richNah- I don't think it's rare at all. But it is a lot easier for men to be distracted by the super shiny women on social media instead of giving undivided attention to the very normal, accepting, average girl that will actually treat you with kindness and respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 11:35 PM |
| 2 | Marriage is not worth it for women who do not marry richI'm 33. I've had 2 friends die in childbirth - the child survived in one case. I know 3 different women who gave birth and the child didn't survive, mom was emotionally recked though. why are you guys having sex left and right, without a single worry, then? Have you met a Millenial? I'm here for a good time- not for a long time. If I die during child birth at least my life insurance will payout. I can minimize risk but not eliminate it. "Without a single worry" is not how that goes down. It just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 07:27 PM |
| 7 | Marriage is not worth it for women who do not marry richWomen whose love is contingent on what he can provide for her are not the women you want to attract anyway. They have no RMV. Her standards are often way higher than she can reciprocate physically, so her SMV is high, but prospective matches are slim. There are normal women who do not view love as a transaction but it is contingent on other things. Like being faithful, honesty, similar values, goals and upbringing... ect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Personality can't compensate for looksOur roles are reversed. He was the pretty, single parent and I'm the beta provider. That's kind of the problem with RP. If there are no exceptions- I'll tell you all you want to know. But not all women are the same. Some of us are just looking for happiness- not looking at trying to be the target of envy or get more than we give. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 04:22 PM |
| 0 | Personality can't compensate for looksI make more money then he does- and have our entire relationship. I dont have any biological kids. My options dwindled long after I had been married- but at 33, I still have options- mostly my age or younger. Their motivation is... confusing. I do not need a man- never did. Simps are not my style. I am the one with the resources. Physically, he is not my type. Kind of a fuck boy, tbh. But, emotionally, he is the best person I've ever met. We have very similar views and have debates on our disagr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 03:42 PM |
| 13 | what's the deal with "nice guy" stereotype and why there isn't an equivalent term for women?"Boy will be boys" was used by Brock Turner's dad while he plead for a lesser sentence for his son. I've never heard "Girls will be Girls" in my entire life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 02:17 AM |
| 0 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexI'd rather you donate to RAIIN instead- | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 07:23 PM |
| 2 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexDoes that happen because he thinks to highly of himself or lowly of her? If he had no attraction to her, would he still convince himself that she's flirting? If he weren't attracted to her, would she still be flirting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 11:23 PM |
| 3 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexBut you see the difference - one is a compliment, the other is a pickup line. In general, one is welcome and can start a conversation, the other gets an eye roll. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 08:28 PM |
| 2 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexI did not read it that way the first time. Thanks for the clarification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Personality can't compensate for looksI'm sorry but you can find someone else to do a little song and dance for you so you'll be attracted to them because that's not gonna be me You're not really getting it. Initial attraction is not as important as the person behind it. You're going to see that person at their worst and still love them. Ugly crying, in physical pain, constipated, traffic raging, frustrated- and at the end of the day, you'll forget all the physically unattractive things they've done- and you're still going to want t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 07:37 PM |
| 8 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexA clothes... ladder? I think you mean a dressing chair. But no- one is a compliment about the effort I put into my presentation. The other is 100% about getting me naked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Does it really matter how you act on dates?It does to an extent- like there's some red flag behavior that one girl may over look but not another. Why did you choose to change your attitude on each date? Were you responding to their energy? Imagine you are on a date with a girl that you had previously went RP with, how would she probably responded if you acted differently? Have you ever been viking on a date and all of a sudden she says something completely outrageous? I was on a date once- really vibing- I liked everything about him- eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 06:59 PM |
| 6 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexYour article is behind a paywall. Meana- Who is she? What gives her the authority to be a credible source? She just a girl with opinions? Narcissism is a personality disorder. And Meana is alluding that Women are, as a whole, mentally ill- and calling herself a feminist. Seems... sketch. Of course, women like attention - so do men - it's human. OP is talking about "Narcissisic tendencies" but they also were not quoted in an article. Some Tendencies include: always talking about themselves; entit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 06:16 PM |
| 25 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexSame. "You look stunning" vs. "That dress would look better on my bedroom floor" One is flattering. The other is just gross. And they mean the exact same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 05:16 PM |
| 26 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexSo you saying I would be okay with Means that you consent. I grew tits at age 9. I did not consent to be given sexual attention, but yet I received it. Getting sexual unwanted attention means I'm less likely to want (or consent to) sexual attention. At 10 years old, I looked pretty much like what I do now at 33- 60 pounds and a couple wrinkles difference, and my hips spread when I was around 23. My height, chest, even shoe size is the same. I am 4 pants sizes larger, but I have worn some of my s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Genderflip - if men chose "bodice rippers", what would they choose?I do not want nor am quite qualified to be a maid or a therapist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 03:50 PM |
| 2 | Personality can't compensate for looksI don't think you read the other comment thread- there was 0 attraction. He thought I was a "stuck up cunt". And I thought he looked "dirty and super low class". We were both not wrong but, socially, we had a lot more in common than our outward appearance led us to believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 03:38 PM |
| 3 | Personality can't compensate for looksKey word "older" Yes- because they were young once and got drunk and married and made a life together- older. You don't have 50 year marriages if you marry at 40. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 03:35 PM |
| 3 | Personality can't compensate for looksThere was only a pursuit on my side. Everyone passed out from drinking. We spoke for the first time out of boredom, and things progressed quickly and naturally. We became friends. We were both in relationships and didn't view each other as a potential sexual relationship. He was fun to be around. We got along well. His GF broke up with him, 3 weeks later. We continued to hang out, and we had legit chemistry. I even set him up with some of my friends, but nothing clicked. After 2 months, my boyfr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 03:08 PM |
| 6 | Personality can't compensate for looksI don't keep this hidden. We talk about our first impressions all the time because neither of us were impressed by the other. Matter-of-fact if it wasn't for us being the only two who could out drink the others, we probably never would have spoken. The person under that appearance is who I want to be with. Who cares what they look like? I wanna kiss then forever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 07:07 AM |
| 5 | Personality can't compensate for looks"Meh" may mean "Not my ideal, but she could win me over" because ideal is rare. I married someone who was a "Absolutely Not" when I saw him for the first time. By God though- charm, wit, common upbringing, absolute honesty- made up for the unatteactive, very grunge-like outward appearance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 06:39 AM |
| 5 | Your 'standards' are irrelevant. The dating market tells you what you're worthCommon Law and Community Property cannot be used in junction with each other. Community Property splits the assets of the legally married couple 50/50. Marital Property ONLY. If the house was bought before the marriage- usually its not considered marital property unless the non-owner can establish that their money was used for the mortgage. Common Law is used when a significant time has elapsed during a period of cohabitation while in the same Common Law state- usually 7-10 years but there is no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 05:37 AM |
| 3 | Your 'standards' are irrelevant. The dating market tells you what you're worthExample; if you own your own home, and you have a woman cohabitate even for a short time, you're likely going to have to pay her at least multiple 5 figures to leave. Can I have a real example? This does not happen. If you cohabitate in your house, you only have to go through the eviction process. There's no 5-figure payout. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 02:55 AM |
| 2 | Any women here..How did you meet? Work. I made friends with a girl and she was his friend. How was it? In general, fine. We had some problems because I was 20, and he was 27. He didn't clean up after himself, invited himself to my house (I lived alone, he lived with his parents). He'd eat all my food bur I was on a tight budget and it would cause me to have to ration food for the rest of the pay period. He did not help with groceries or bills because he "didn't live there." But he spent more time at my house th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 02:51 AM |
| – | Are the majority of men against abortion doing so only to fulfill a deeply unconscious evolutionary desire for reproduction of their own lineage (that abortion threatens) or socio-cultural reasons that revolve around morality, belief, philosophy, etc.?I tend towards a different perspective in that I think it is unethical to bring a life into a situation where they will very likely be mistreated. Ugh. Agreed. I suppose this is just me as if I didn't have people to love me, I wouldn't want to be here. I don't think that being loved is a necessity to keep living. But regularly mistreated is a reason to no longer want to be here. There is a middle ground: indifference, which is not optimal but survivable or tolerable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Are women actually attracted to toxic men?Absolutely this. Except You can't be afraid to lose her.....at ANY time. I think this is mutual. You both have to have a healthy balance of compromise and upholding your boundaries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 09:38 PM |
| 0 | Are women actually attracted to toxic men?She's not the type. Her previous boyfriends have mistreated her- she's just glad to be in a drama-free relationship. Most women will sacrifice looks for stability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 09:36 PM |
| – | Are the majority of men against abortion doing so only to fulfill a deeply unconscious evolutionary desire for reproduction of their own lineage (that abortion threatens) or socio-cultural reasons that revolve around morality, belief, philosophy, etc.?I have a dark sense of humor so this gave me a giggle. You are not alone- an audible giggle. Yes, it certainly is a life. There are a lot of lives, I don't do much if anything to preserve: I'm a meat eater, I kill mosquitos, tumors seem okay to kill, I don't want dying people to be kept alive. I suppose this is a multi-faceted straw man but lots of things are alive and I'm not super excited about keeping them alive. I think that if the fetus could survive outside of the womb, even with a small p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 06:45 PM |
| -2 | Are women actually attracted to toxic men?People with low self-worth will find ways to find unattractive qualities, attractive. Especially women will date down to feel attractive. Raising her self-esteem is more important to her than the attraction she has to him. Sometimes, it's about status, and quid pro quo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:43 PM |
| 10 | Are women actually attracted to toxic men?That's a self-worth issue, not an attraction issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:11 PM |
| 5 | Are women actually attracted to toxic men?Oof. It depends on the woman. I've dated less than attractive men who had hearts of gold. And attractive men who would do the world a favor by not reproducing. My sister likes attractive assholes but is marrying a dopey, dumb but sweet dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:10 PM |
| – | Pretty much every advice targeted at men is to make them to wait until they are too old to do anything"stop bothering women and work on yourself the right one will come along one day" Allows for self development and self-reliance. These are things women find attractive. It gives room for relationships to happen organically. I find being hit on is gross. Guys who approach just to try and get laid- icky. But if you're not worried about getting in my pants, make legit conversation- I'm likely to ask you out. That is the whole problem with RP- it assumes men and women are different but there is exac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 04:47 PM |
| 2 | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?While true, this is not how the reasoning happens, psychologically. She wants her cake and eat it too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:45 AM |
| 6 | Does widespread monogamy require economic coercion to work?Women don't have dirt-bag radar, and in the unstructured dating system we have now, women are kinda on their own. There is an instinct that is developed when a woman is the victim, which makes her less likely to choose an abuser but it oftentimes creates a false positive. Example If I like bad boys. This is my detriment. Often bad boys are abusive- so I am less likely to create a meaningful relationship with one, but still fulfill my sexual needs with them. This makes me less likely to become hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Women can be borderline autistic, even mentally and socially retarded and they will still be able to get guys, have dating options, overall, still be able to get into a relationship, but not so much the other way around.If the choices are being victimized or being single- then I'd pick single everyday. Less likely to be in a relationship doesn't make you undateable- keep your head up and keep trying but listen to the people who have nothing to gain by you being in a relationship or single when the opportunity arises. My uncle is on the spectrum and has a very nice gf. She's patient and kind and loves him. I have another uncle who is also on the spectrum- he's been married over 20 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 02:46 AM |
| 2 | Women can be borderline autistic, even mentally and socially retarded and they will still be able to get guys, have dating options, overall, still be able to get into a relationship, but not so much the other way around.Men on the spectrum are less likely to be involved in relationships and so less likely to be taken advantage of. I agree- not enough has been done to protect the mentally disadvantaged across all genders, and it is a shame. But just because something is legally ok, doesn't make it socially acceptable. Do not confuse Morality and Legality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Women can be borderline autistic, even mentally and socially retarded and they will still be able to get guys, have dating options, overall, still be able to get into a relationship, but not so much the other way around.Agreed. But not all those men lack mental capacity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 09:45 PM |
| 3 | Women are ultimately hurting themselves when they refuse to approach and caution guys against approachingObviously it’s done to preserve their ego and in an attempt to avoid encounters with weirdos ? Safety is a concern. You think it's my ego?- dude- It's my life and my body. meanwhile it probably doesn’t actually do much to deter assholes and weirdos from approaching as by definition they don’t really care about women’s feelings So you admit it's an ineffective deterrent- but you still think it's my ego I'm protecting, interesting. I’m a tall good looking well spoken guy and yet I can count on one… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 09:42 PM |
| 0 | Women can be borderline autistic, even mentally and socially retarded and they will still be able to get guys, have dating options, overall, still be able to get into a relationship, but not so much the other way around.Can you explain your comment? Because I think you missed my conclusion all together: Honestly- You meet a girl and you either like her or not- she doesn't have to know your requirements. Your requirements are completely valid. Now, are you her equal? Do you have traditional masculine values, the ability to support yourself, weight (in control), not promiscuous (in control), healthiness, being supportive? If not, then Good Luck- If you want a true partnership- then you should be shooting for your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 04:58 PM |
| 2 | Women can be borderline autistic, even mentally and socially retarded and they will still be able to get guys, have dating options, overall, still be able to get into a relationship, but not so much the other way around.An average, married woman did, actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 04:57 PM |
| 8 | Women can be borderline autistic, even mentally and socially retarded and they will still be able to get guys, have dating options, overall, still be able to get into a relationship, but not so much the other way around.We urged her to reconnect with her parents. She ultimately did and moved in with them after she lost her apartment. She lost her job. She started therapy- then was mandated by family court to do co-parent cousiling. It didn't turn out well- she got a job and stopped fighting for visits. She became untrusting and borderline paranoid about other people's motives in her life. We moved away shortly after. I have never seen someone hit rock bottom unless it was self-induced. It felt unfair but we did… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 07:01 AM |
| 18 | Women can be borderline autistic, even mentally and socially retarded and they will still be able to get guys, have dating options, overall, still be able to get into a relationship, but not so much the other way around.Um- no. It's morally wrong to take advantage of someone who cannot fully understand the consequences of their choices. It is socially unacceptable. He targeted, manipulated, isolated, and financially abused her and she couldn't wrap her head around "Why you would save money". Are you saying all men who get baby trapped are Neurodivergent? That's a pretty bold and insulting claim. And I do not think that's a valid or fair claim. Its legal with the genders the way they are- so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 06:49 AM |
| 12 | Women can be borderline autistic, even mentally and socially retarded and they will still be able to get guys, have dating options, overall, still be able to get into a relationship, but not so much the other way around.They didn't approve of BF so she NCd them. After he left, she tried to reach out, but they were not going to help her, legally of financially- so she cut them off again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 06:41 AM |
| 9 | Women can be borderline autistic, even mentally and socially retarded and they will still be able to get guys, have dating options, overall, still be able to get into a relationship, but not so much the other way around.It's curious, then, how there seems to be an uproar whenever men assert their standards Oooh. No. That makes him even hotter. Traditional femininine values,weight (in control), not promiscuous (in control), healthiness, being supportive, Because from a woman's perspective, those words mean something totally different. Traditional femininine values- You do not want me to have a career. You want a SAHM, but (very likely) lack the means to be able to compensate for my lifestyle and hobbies. You wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 06:32 AM |
| 34 | Women can be borderline autistic, even mentally and socially retarded and they will still be able to get guys, have dating options, overall, still be able to get into a relationship, but not so much the other way around.toxic and abusive relationships This is, sadly, true. They can be easily manipulated financially, emotionally, socially, and sexually. It's tragic- I have a Neurodivergent that would ask outrageously inappropriate questions in public about her relationship (we'd speak in gush tones but never shame her) because it was difficult for her to understand what "Normal" was. This one is the most memorable: Her boyfriend had quit his job and wanted to have a baby so he could be a SAHD. She thought this m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 06:09 AM |
| 6 | Isn't this red pill thinking? Girls will choose attractive jocks over quiet nerds, even if they are equally misogynistic.Honestly, depends on how much self-respect the girl has and how pretty she is. Pretty would give her access to more handsome guys. Her self-respect will determine how well they they'd have to treat her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 02:50 AM |
| 1 | What's the point in adjusting who you are in order to be attractive, if you're not yourself anymore?Twinks are very common and many of them are my friends. And straight women are not attracted to them even though some are bi. I think that has a lot more to do with how a twink traditionally looks- straight women usually don't like to be hanging around someone who is prettier, thinner, and younger. Especially if you look like you may be his mom- It's not about personality type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 06:11 PM |
| 2 | What's the point in adjusting who you are in order to be attractive, if you're not yourself anymore?The other day, my bi friend said she loves dating her masc partner because "she doesn't have to plan or think about responsibilities." I would agree with this statement if this statement was able to be transferred to masc men. But it doesn't. This is a person to person thing. There are masc men who do plan, take responsibility, and have contingency plans. But most plan of going shopping in a car with no storage space, want a date night but don't find a sitter for his kids, ect. This isn't about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 06:00 PM |
| 2 | What's the point in adjusting who you are in order to be attractive, if you're not yourself anymore?No honorable woman would find crying or being emotional a turn off (there's some qualifications about appropriatness). To what extent? To the extent of how a woman acts? We disagree entirely on this. This is what I meant by "Appropriateness". And honestly, a woman crying is not flattering either. "To the extent that a woman acts?" Can you explain this? Because I think we have a different circle of women that we interact with. Because most times crying is not in our control- I've cried under extr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 05:33 PM |
| 2 | What's the point in adjusting who you are in order to be attractive, if you're not yourself anymore?Woah- I didn't say you did. That particular line can be interpreted in a dangerous way. In fact, I said the opposite, that you might talk to your therapist about it. I don't see that anywhere, but ok. You are reading what you want to hear, not what is being said. I am reading the subtext. It's not about the words you say- it's about what they mean when used in a sentence together. And how they may make others feel. Funny part is- I have no problem with your whole point. But that line has implica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:48 PM |
| 1 | What's the point in adjusting who you are in order to be attractive, if you're not yourself anymore?How your employer views your utility is comparable to how a partner would that values masculinity That's really dangerous to say. Men and their mental health are important. They do not need to shoulder 100% of the burden, silently because that is expected. Asking for help takes courage and strength, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:16 PM |
| 4 | What's the point in adjusting who you are in order to be attractive, if you're not yourself anymore?This. What is going on with the gamer's life that they have that kind of time- what is being neglected? That's usually the turn off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | The fear of not getting sex can sometimes be the main cause of not getting sex.Your outward appearance affects your confidence. I'm not talking about how you look once you go to the salon- but how you feel about yourself after you leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:31 PM |
| 1 | The fear of not getting sex can sometimes be the main cause of not getting sex.Despite what they may say, pretty much every woman wants a man, who takes charge, who's not afraid of them (or others), who's formidable That is not my experience, but maybe I just know 70 of the most over-bearing women on the planet. Not one guy in my family can hold candle to the fierceness that is embroidered in the woman that they married. Most women want the one guy who isn't hitting on them. Make yourself scarce and silent and see how interesting you become. It's cute that you discount the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 09:42 AM |
| 1 | The fear of not getting sex can sometimes be the main cause of not getting sex.A movie trope exists only because it's plausible in real life. A shy man is sexier than shit- dude. Oh.. and humble- growl Have you ever been with someone like this? they take you back to their house and before you get there, they go "please pardon the mess, I wasn't expecting to meet you." And then you walk into their house- and not dirty, nor mess- kinda just lived in. That's humble and it is great. Coy women are literally the worst. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 09:29 AM |
| 5 | If a guy owns a home, do you think it's acceptable for him to charge his girlfriend rent (or require some other kind of financial contribution) to live with him?I disagree. Housing is expensive, and he still needs to pay taxes, perform maintenance, fix broken things, pay the mortgage - that would be all on your landlord if you were renting. But in this instance I'd say yes if her name is added to the paperwork on the home so she has rights to what she's helping to pay off. You are paying off a rented house but do not get added to the deed. She is not entitled to the home in any way. But I would say a lease agreement would be a wise protection for both p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 09:17 AM |
| – | Would you be okay splitting expenses roughly 50/50 with a male partner that makes significantly more than you.Oh, my bad dude. I didn't think it was amusing and thought you were being... an asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 09:05 AM |
| 1 | Would you be okay splitting expenses roughly 50/50 with a male partner that makes significantly more than you.This is a Question for Women. Read the flair, dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 06:01 AM |
| 1 | Would you be okay splitting expenses roughly 50/50 with a male partner that makes significantly more than you.Splitting 50/50 would be a dream. I have the more physically demanding job, make more money but work less hours, so I do most of the housework, too. Currently, we are split 80/20. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 05:58 AM |
| 9 | The fear of not getting sex can sometimes be the main cause of not getting sex.Yeah... Confidence is way hot and can make up for a lot of negative physical attributes. And this is not a gendered thing. It's even the subject of some movie tropes- like the shy girl who needs to take off her glasses to be hot. The nerd guy who gets a makeover. Even- the fake relationship arrangement trope. Each one gives the characters a sense of security and confidence that they didn't have prior. Wearing new clothes, getting your hair done, ect, affects the character's internal confidence, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 05:45 AM |
| – | Who and where are these invisible women?No where in my post did I claim that they don't exist, I have just never seen IRL. That is a contradictory sentence. By saying you've never seen one, You are doubting they exist. That's what that means. Now can you stop flipping out. No one is flipping out. Also, you're not going to see these women. They are invisible, by nature. I've known a couple personally- and a couple of women who lowered their standards, made the first move, disrespected herself to get a low rent, POS boyfriend. In my opi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 05:13 AM |
| 7 | Most of the posters on this sub prove that women only exist to men if they are a 6/10 +I think they meant physically harder. My parents were bankers. It's sitting work. Thinking work. And people are generally nice to people that have their money. Also- idk what you're on about- my dad didn't have a degree and my step-dad got his GED while he was a branch manager. Maybe it's gotten more competitive- but one of my exs is currently in banking- ADM with no degree. Waitresses is physically demanding. There needs to be teamwork but individual accountability. You're dealing with rude cus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:53 AM |
| 1 | Most of the posters on this sub prove that women only exist to men if they are a 6/10 +One woman might be satisfied with a guy that looks like Jonah Hill, another woman might not be satisfied with a guy that looks like Henry Cavil. It's the same woman. The woman is me. But what the OP is talking about when saying "Quality" relationship is pretty standard. We both do things to make the other happy. There is mutual respect, exclusivity, a significant duration. Basically, a Boyfriend in some respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:41 AM |
| 1 | What is a low value man?Oooh. It's more often than that but you're going to have to lower your minimum attractiveness standard. Ugly women have a hard time finding relationships, but not dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:33 AM |
| – | People who say "Sex isn't a need" don't know how it is to be the average manI'm a woman with a high sex drive. I get it. It's not a need. You can get the same release from doing it yourself. You do not need to have power over someone- If you do need power over someone does that mean when women take control in the bedroom, your release is less intense and that there is less sexual gratification? Because this is definitely not my experience from the woman's side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:21 AM |
| 2 | Having integrity and respect is often a hindrance to datingYeah- at the end of the day, I'm gunna close my eyes and live with the shit I did. You gotta decide what is right and what you can live with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:07 AM |
| – | What is a low value man?You're being purposely daft. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:01 AM |
| – | What is a low value man?She specified in this comment in the other thread, a situation was mentioned where a drunk guy grabbed a girl and kissed her, and her boyfriend just stood there. that’s what was being referred to. so yes, if a man forcefully grabs me and kisses me i would not want my boyfriend to just stand there. but i also don’t want him going around getting in random fights w every man who looks at me. that’s dangerous, and i want him to assess the severity of the situation and act accordingly. he doesn’t nee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:00 AM |
| 1 | What is a low value man?I feel like there's probably a situation where it'd seem cute that a man is willing to beat up other men who bother you First- gross. No violence is not good and if there is a non-violent solution, it's even worse. Second- Am I not an adult? I can take care of myself if someone is bothering me. Third- My honor does not, will never need a man to defend it. There are life and death situations that call for violence but they are very few. Domestic Abuse is unforgivable. From both sides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:53 AM |
| 1 | What is a low value man?Sometimes- It is just anyone available and willing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:46 AM |
| 15 | Most of the posters on this sub prove that women only exist to men if they are a 6/10 +Today is a horrible day to be literate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 10:14 PM |
| 11 | Women don't appreciate male breadwinnersI did. My mom did, too. Most of the girls I know, actually. I have always had a more physical job, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 09:43 PM |
| 2 | Women don't appreciate male breadwinnersOooh. This. When we were broke, our house was a mess since we were working all the time. So we readjusted. When you're fighting to keep the lights on, a vacuuming is not important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 09:32 PM |
| 9 | Women don't appreciate male breadwinners"Full-time" can mean as little as 30 hours a week. Men still spend more time at work than women do. "men spend an average of 41.0 hours per week at their jobs, while women work an average of 36.3 hours per week" source so not actually much difference. 5 hours a week is 10 meals or 9 loads of dishes or 3 loads of laundry, cleaning 2 bathrooms, so the scale should be more balanced. Maintaining and cleaning an average 1500sq/ft home, with 2 occupants is a 30 hour/week job. That would put her contri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 09:25 PM |
| 15 | Women don't appreciate male breadwinnersIt does not matter what you earn. If you and your spouse have full time jobs, then housework is split down the middle. OR- you can pay for a maid. 😀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 08:48 PM |
| 1 | What is a low value man?I'm saying your rules are arbitrary and invalid. Clinton and Oprah are the pinochle of womanhood for you? Neither of them are even powerful, and both are generally disliked because they are shady that has nothing to do with their attractiveness or age. Men of Power and Fame are not tripping over themselves at all because they are HV. Hell- Nick Cannon has 12 kids by like 5 women. Elon has 8 with more than 3 women. If we are going to talk about the Rich and Famous: Let's talk more about how Barac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 07:43 PM |
| 1 | What is a low value man?That’s the thing. That’s what all women are looking for in the beginning. You could be a good guy and have a great career and everything but she’s not even going to try to find that out if she doesn’t want to fuck you. Sexual chemistry is the first thing that has to be there. They don’t dream of settling down with a guy with a great career who’s kind but they have no sexual chemistry. They dream of a guy they have great sexual chemistry with who also happens to be a kindhearted guy with a great … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 06:44 PM |
| 1 | What is a low value man?Women don't care about past bcz they want a guy with a past/ experience So, low numbers are a turn-off, now? No. You just said women get the icky if the numbers are too high. It's not about that at all. We. Do. Not. Care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 06:21 PM |
| 1 | What is a low value man?Sexual chemistry is the first thing that has to be there. Yes. It does have to be there, but I didn't marry the person I had the most sexual chemistry with. I am more likely to have sexual chemistry with a man than he is to have a career, ambition, money, and similar life values. You know, when you put a puzzle together, you look for the edges because they are easier to pick out than random bits in the middle and deduction is easier when you really only have 2 sides to choose from? It's like tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 06:20 PM |
| 1 | What is a low value man?I am a woman. That is not reality as I know it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 06:13 PM |
| 2 | What is a low value man?You can work and build the best career and become “high value” but women will want the guy they have the most sexual chemistry with. If she is just looking for sex, sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 05:30 PM |
| 1 | What is a low value man?100% of her value is sex appeal? That's nuts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 05:26 PM |
| 11 | Ladies what is your opinion of husbands, boyfriends, brothers, dads, friends or any of the guys in your life worried about you visiting a male gynecologist?I prefer male OBGYNs. Because they tend to be ultra professional and easier to see since so many women prefer lady doctors. I've never had one that was creepy. I've had lady doctors comment on where my cervix sits, or how lubricated I became during the appointment. Getting probed with a robot duck is not sexy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 10:13 AM |
| 1 | What is a low value man?Well, - that's true for all men. It's not something most women find important. We don't generally care about numbers or your past if you're looking to move past it. The ick comes from how we are treated after- | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 10:08 AM |
| 1 | What is a low value man?How would you define a LVW? I make my own money. I am not girly. No make up regularly. Serial ethical non-monogomist. Refused multiple relationships when the other person didn't meet certain requirements. Overweight and not very pretty. I have sex for the fun of it- not for attention. I'll be 100- I've only heard only what people define as a LVW. And usually I'll be like "Yep, Yep, yep." I don't think I said FuckBoys were not real men- I said they were a dime a dozen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 10:03 AM |
| 1 | What is a low value man?The term "Nice Guy" is an Incel in every other forum. Do you mean "Nice Guy" or a nice guy? That's uh... crazy. I can not think of a single person IRL that I know that fits any of what you are saying. Most men I know would be in you "Fuck Boy" but they settled down in their early 20s, got married to what you'd call a LVW. But usually- they each had suitors that had to be turned away. Shit- myself- I'm a LVW and married a fuck boy way out of my league. Are there any other categories? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 06:29 AM |
| 2 | What is a low value man?Exactly why I'm out after date 3 if I don't get any. That'd make you a fuck boy. But Fuck Boys have charm and charisma - its not just their looks. I mean- would you pump and dump an HVW? Why are men expecting us to do something they don't do? You meet a woman and immediately try to bed her? That's a turn-off for most women - it's not ego or pride, that's disgusting. You don't even know her. She is literally just a mark for you. But they still get to fuck, hence the term. Fuck Boy doesn't respect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 12:40 AM |
| 4 | What is a low value man?Yeahhh. From a woman's perspective: a high value man is not getting laid until date 3 to elude to her being a high value woman. A man's perspective: a high value man gets lots of attention. But those fuck boys are disposable and a dime a dozen- which is by definition "a low value" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 10:19 PM |
| 5 | I regularly see women say on here that men overrate their own appearance, but women are guilty of this to a significantly higher degree.I constantly see objectively mediocre looking women, often significantly overweight calling themselves beautiful or griping about how they deserve a prince. Are they single? That sounds like a mind ya bisiness thing. Like she will figure it out by herself, or she will be single forever. Let her be. Can you imagine the ridicule a short, overweight or average looking man would receive if he acted like this? Men do do this. All the time. We mind our business and reject him- but he then tells himsel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 04:28 PM |
| – | Does the man provide and the woman returns the favor with sex? Is that how it works or not?I've never had an issue, so it really doesn't matter that you feel a certain way since the reality is opposing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 04:18 PM |
| 5 | Does the man provide and the woman returns the favor with sex? Is that how it works or not?All men think they have a high sex drive until they meet a woman with a high sex drive. I have had relationships that were sex >6 times a day. Everyday for the duration of the relationship. No menstrual break. It lasted 9 monthes. He said "I tried my best but I cannot keep up with you. Sorry." He talked about how it made him feel like less of a man. And he was just tired. So, not all women are like you. Plus, I've had great times on dates... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 02:52 AM |
| 4 | Men are entitled to some things, they just aren't entitled to others caring.That's something you should seek help for- like therapy. There is a clear difference (between cheating and non-monogomy) in intent and outcome. It's something you should look to resolve instead of insisting other people work around your neurosis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 01:03 AM |
| 6 | Men are entitled to some things, they just aren't entitled to others caring.But being in an open relationship is not cheating. It's ethical non-monogomy. Correlating two simular actions, where one is morally sound and the other is morally wrong, is flawed. Do you own a gun? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 12:56 AM |
| 6 | Men are entitled to some things, they just aren't entitled to others caring.If you're disgusted, just walk away from me. You also have the right to feel disgusted and not associate with me, but you aren't entitled to interrogating me Uh. You give too little information to be disgusted, so they probe further. If you don't like the questions- you have the right to walk away but you can't control them or me - you don't get to tell me to walk away. I did it because women who want open relationships disgust me. It's not that complex. Why is it only women in the open relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Men are entitled to some things, they just aren't entitled to others caring.Uh.. OP... "Entitled" has a negative connotation and the following definition: believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment. I think the word you're actually looking for is "Right" which has a neutral connotation and the following definition: a moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something or to act in a certain way. You have a right to your emotions, but no one has to care- which is why empathic friends and relationship partner are so important. This … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 12:30 AM |
| 5 | On top of the other obvious issues men face, there is literally no acceptable time or place to approach a woman, even once mutual attraction has been established. Women simply do not want to be bothered, leaving almost everything to chance encounters and organic interactions.r/notopbutok Oh my mistake. I drew a logical conclusion from the bogus facts I was given- oh look that what "implied" means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 12:15 AM |
| 8 | On top of the other obvious issues men face, there is literally no acceptable time or place to approach a woman, even once mutual attraction has been established. Women simply do not want to be bothered, leaving almost everything to chance encounters and organic interactions.So you're upset about being led on and taken advantage of? Men do this all the time with women- "Maybe you should be a little more concerning with the people whom you show interest in" is the advice I got when I got ghosted for the first time. 😀 Lucky you only wasted time and a drink- you didn't even have to risk an STD or pregnancy to see her true colors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 12:07 AM |
| 6 | On top of the other obvious issues men face, there is literally no acceptable time or place to approach a woman, even once mutual attraction has been established. Women simply do not want to be bothered, leaving almost everything to chance encounters and organic interactions.You /implied/ it. You said that some women will show signs of attraction, but then reject you when you hit on them. This is a basis of your argument. You said you are sure it's not your attractiveness or your approach- so that implies, it's malicious on her end. But I don't understand her motivation. Explain this quote Women give me clear indicators of interest basically inviting an approach only to freeze up and embarrass me when I did. I’m an attractive guy, average height but good looking and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 11:52 PM |
| 15 | On top of the other obvious issues men face, there is literally no acceptable time or place to approach a woman, even once mutual attraction has been established. Women simply do not want to be bothered, leaving almost everything to chance encounters and organic interactions.Wait- then what is the motivation to intend to embarrass another person? There is not benefit to this action, so it is difficult to imagine that a woman would do this. So I'm back to- /She/ did not embarrass you. /You/ felt embarrassed. Which means she was not showing any interest and whatever you interpreted as intrest was a Red Herring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:25 PM |
| 21 | On top of the other obvious issues men face, there is literally no acceptable time or place to approach a woman, even once mutual attraction has been established. Women simply do not want to be bothered, leaving almost everything to chance encounters and organic interactions.I'm (F) not very pretty and I was never thin.im like a 5-6. My standards for personality are too high- and always have been. I've given some pretty ugly guys a shot and had the best relationships. I can't be the only one. It feels like every one of these discussions, though, are about men wanting to pull a 10- by only contributing minimal effort and not bringing much to the table. Like, dude- you're not going to even pull a 5 with that attitude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 07:46 PM |
| 1 | On top of the other obvious issues men face, there is literally no acceptable time or place to approach a woman, even once mutual attraction has been established. Women simply do not want to be bothered, leaving almost everything to chance encounters and organic interactions.I run a book club and it’s fire. Turn down the heat, Bradbury. It's not supposed to be Fahrenheit 451, you're supposed to read it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 07:35 PM |
| 7 | On top of the other obvious issues men face, there is literally no acceptable time or place to approach a woman, even once mutual attraction has been established. Women simply do not want to be bothered, leaving almost everything to chance encounters and organic interactions.If you want to meet a woman, you have to put yourself, non-threateningly, in a place women will outnumber men. So- yeah, a book club. You missed a great punny opportunity "What is this, 1984?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 07:33 PM |
| 43 | On top of the other obvious issues men face, there is literally no acceptable time or place to approach a woman, even once mutual attraction has been established. Women simply do not want to be bothered, leaving almost everything to chance encounters and organic interactions.You're logic is flawed. This specifically. And it's building block for the rest of your arguement, since this is flawed, the entire argument falls apart. Most women do not get a kick out of humiliating another human being, and the small amount that do- consider it a bullet dodged (unless your into degradation). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 07:26 PM |
| 4 | Can you put your preference into numbers?I live in a town of 7K. My biggest requirement is "They gotta have teeth." It is the only non-negotiable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 04:34 PM |
| 5 | Most sexism men have is not ill-intentionalThe truth is that usually men don't see themselves competing against women. This is just not true. If you work in a male dominant workplace as a woman- it seems like there's no comparison until the woman is able to meet or exceed goals that her male counterparts cannot. Then you are likely to hear either 1- I didn't expect that from a girl 2- Women are more suited to that kind of work or 3- Even the men struggle with ____. All are sexist because they discount her skill, her work ethic and her un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 03:56 PM |
| – | Can men here comment on these hypocrisies some men say about women?What is the reason you want someone more available with less responsibility? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 09:02 AM |
| – | Can men here comment on these hypocrisies some men say about women?So- someone with less responsibility, less maturity, and who needs to be taken care of and can center their lives around you? Makes sense... because you have responsibility, maturity, a career, and need attention- so you aren't able to reciprocate the kind of energy she is going to put in- and power is unbalanced in the relationship in your favor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:19 AM |
| – | Can men here comment on these hypocrisies some men say about women?I'm 34. I have grey hair. My mom went grey at 31. Women's body's significantly change after 30 or after kids. What age do you think most women who get a butt lift- if they're gunna get one? You're probably bad at estimating age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:09 AM |
| – | Can men here comment on these hypocrisies some men say about women?That's not what they said. What happens when this 20 something college dropout with no job experience becomes a 35 yo old woman with grey hair and a saggy ass? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 07:07 AM |
| – | Can men here comment on these hypocrisies some men say about women?Some are. I'm, personally, super outgoing and generally have a positive outlook and I'm 34. However, I was an angry, chaotic mess in my 20s. Experience makes you jaded to havoc and so you're able to deal with it and move on a lot quicker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 05:24 AM |
| – | Can men here comment on these hypocrisies some men say about women?10: l don't want my woman to contribute any percentage of the income, same with many traditional conservative men Want and Need are 2 seperate things. In this economy, a 2 adult household almost always needs to be a 2 income household. Anyways what hypocrisy ? I've heard the same man say "I like a natural beauty" and "She's ugly without make-up". To realize you are a 5, and only want to date 8-10s but the 5 trying to get your attention isn't pretty enough. To want her to be independent (read "ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 05:20 AM |
| 4 | Why married women are you on this sub?To seek advice to further my own viewpoint. To give my opinion when I am educated well enough to so. To seek out alternative views so my opinion is well informed Are our own views of how gender relates only effect romantic relationships? No. Gender affects all our relationships and how we talk to one another, how we view the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 12:14 AM |
| – | Men need to stop putting Women on a pedestal for pussy/brownie points & let them get more used to being humbleCan you explain how being annoyingly insensitive can be misconstrued as confident? Instead of thinking I'm being an asshole, can you assume I'm dumb instead? I wasn't trying to be patronizing i just don't understand how one could correlate to the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 09:36 PM |
| 3 | I think it's bullshit that there's a "compliment gap" between men and women. What these men really want is sexual validation.Compliments to men also have an ulterior motive if you want to look for it. They educate with feedback. So a woman appreciates this behavior, do it more often. The woman criticizes this behavior, don't do it again. That's needlessly gendered since that is the nature of compliments, in general- to give positive feedback in the hopes that the person will continue. Besides, one day a man is skilled/handy, the next day he may not be skilled/handy. It is enough for him to fail at something Skill is n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 09:33 PM |
| 21 | I think it's bullshit that there's a "compliment gap" between men and women. What these men really want is sexual validation.I agree mostly with your analysis. The types of compliments men recieve are not valued, as a whole. Men recieve feedback on their behavior while women recieve feedback on their appearance. Your wife telling you "You are a good dad" unprompted is a compliement. "That was kind" is a compliment. "You're so funny" is a compliment. "OmG, youre so skilled/handy" is a compliment. Those things can remain true for your entire life. Now as a woman, "You are beautiful" is sometimes loaded and, as you menti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 06:06 PM |
| – | Men need to stop putting Women on a pedestal for pussy/brownie points & let them get more used to being humbleConfidence is not obtuse. I don't think you know what obtuse means- so I'll help: Obtuse: 1. Annoyingly insensitive or slow to understand. 2.(of an angle) more than 90° and less than 180°. Insensitivity and stupidity are turn-offs and I do not think the second definition applies unless you're being crass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop putting Women on a pedestal for pussy/brownie points & let them get more used to being humbleI meant it the other way... like 70% of people are as cute or cuter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 05:13 AM |
| 1 | Men need to stop putting Women on a pedestal for pussy/brownie points & let them get more used to being humbleHe was in the 70th percentile. Because you can be ugly and confident and confidence is super sexy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 03:46 AM |
| 0 | How many men have you told that "looks don't matter?"I say looks don't matter but I value personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 12:18 AM |
| 2 | Men need to stop putting Women on a pedestal for pussy/brownie points & let them get more used to being humbleYou don't know my dating history- it's full of men with red flags and uggos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 09:38 PM |
| -2 | Men need to stop putting Women on a pedestal for pussy/brownie points & let them get more used to being humbleI am poly and dated a guy who could literally bring cute girl home to share 2-3 times a week. He was cute and full of red flags- confidence like a mother fucker. He was cute but definitely not top 10% cute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 05:23 PM |
| 2 | What exactly were you told about dating women growing up and who said it?Why should I assume the absolute worst then? By keeping this narrative going you are saying "we don't have the data, but assume men were abusive more often than not back then" We aren't assuming the worst. We are saying abusive people existed in relationships then because women had less freedom- this is not a woman only thing either. Men dealt with abusive wives because divorce was frowned upon. As divorce became more tolerated and women were able to support themselves, leaving became an option.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 09:45 PM |
| – | Thought dump re: Pump and Dumping/being used for sex, and Casual SexWhen expectations change, you communicate that. They can either take it or leave it. But don't expect things you don't ask for or reciprocate. Communicate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 09:37 PM |
| – | Thought dump re: Pump and Dumping/being used for sex, and Casual SexBut are they not met because you didn't communicate them OR were they purposefully ignored after you communicated them? Because the person at fault changes from one situation to the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 06:36 PM |
| 3 | What exactly were you told about dating women growing up and who said it?What's your proof of this? What exact number? What is the exact number of marriages that were physically abusive and what is your source? Domestic Violence became a crime in the 1920s but wasn't enforced until the 70s, because it used to be considered a Family Matter Claims about domestic violence need to be looked at critically because a lot goes unreported for a variety of reasons. Maybe you grew up around shitty people? Maybe you grew up with privileges you didn't know you had. How is this an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 06:01 PM |
| 9 | What exactly were you told about dating women growing up and who said it?I think you are being too critical of general advice. Advice doesn't have to be specific. Like "Treat others how you want to be treated" is advice- and stands on its own. We aren't looking for a breakdown of what you can improve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 05:40 PM |
| 16 | Would you marry someone that was not very bright?There are definitely different types of intelligence. I married someone who makes me go, "Why do you do things in the hardest possible way?" All the time, but she is smart. I can subtract fractions in my head, but she can rebuild a carburetor. One skill is more valuable than the other, but it depends on the activity. We just split responsibilities to go with our strengths, and it all works out. I do the finances and scheduling; She fixes things. We joke that I am the thinker and she is the doer;… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 06:00 AM |
| 1 | How would you feel if a guy didn't take you on the same quality of dates as previous suitors?I agree. This is person to person and not gender specific. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 02:53 AM |
| 24 | How would you feel if a guy didn't take you on the same quality of dates as previous suitors?Yeah- those other dates didn't work out. Otherwise, he wouldn't still be single. He may be trying a different approach; putting effort above price. In this way, he may actually value the date with the new person more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 12:13 AM |
| 2 | How do you treat unattractive people?I was married or 17 my entire dating life. (Psst- this was a lie) If you wanted to chat after knowing I was unavailable- I'm down, but at least I'm not stringing you along. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 09:26 PM |
| 3 | How do you treat unattractive people?"If a person of your preferred gender approaches you and is either flirty or friendly, what's your reaction going to be if they're like, a 1 or 2/10?" How would you rather have this question phrased? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 09:24 PM |
| – | It appears that women don't want menYou claim “I he thought I was ugly, he wouldn’t have talked to me”, which is weird considering is very common for people to speak to other people they don’t find attractive. Do you show sexual interest in people you don't find attractive? That is my point: Gender roles set things as to be feel like men are to desire and women to be desired. This sets the tone for what I am saying. This have impact on how bodies are read and how males bodies are read, for better or for worst. No. Men show desire … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 07:37 PM |
| – | It appears that women don't want menSecond. Lesbian doesn’t seem to follow straight women’s attitude. Sure, they love personalities but also women’s looks (which I think straight women don’t do, they don’t love men’s looks), and I feel they like lesbian thirst traps. We discussed this already- it is easier for women to compliment other women, but it's mostly out of envy. Lesbian thirst traps are literally the worst type. Would you be totally not suspicious if men were complimenting you on your personalities, but being “mute” about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 05:58 PM |
| – | It appears that women don't want menTbh- I'd fuck a confident fat dude before a gym rat. If he can be ok with himself, he's definitely gunna be ok with my strechmarks and bellyfat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 05:23 PM |
| – | It appears that women don't want menI don’t see much difference between your average gay men personal style and straight men personal style. If we are so bad a it? Why we get so much attention when we create a grinder profile only to test reactions? Men like things about themselves and other men that women don't find attractive. That's plain and simple. You cannot compare gay men and straight women because we have different tastes. So the fact that you do go to grindr to get a reaction (ew) means you're completely invalidating us … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 05:18 PM |
| -4 | It appears that women don't want menSweetheart- we think everyone is ugly. Have you seen a beautiful girl point out her flaws? Or a super bitch point out flaws on beautiful girl? We are able to pick out things we like on women and compliment them, mostly out of envy. We don't see the necessity of doing that to men because we'd open ourselves up to sexual advances when we were just trying to be nice. But men do not have to be beautiful to procreate- they have to be smart and strong, kind and generous, entertaining- so it was not an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 03:49 AM |
| 2 | It appears that women don't want menAll my friends dabble in Magic - if it is not for you, that's cool, but don't yuck my yum, dude. I like strategy and combos of it. Pokemon is mostly 10-13 yo playing, and I'm not a pedo. I don't wanna paint figures. And I'm not willing to work hard enough to play Yu-Gi-Oh. Also- I'm married. My wife and I have lots of hobbies in common and try new things together all the time. One of us might not be interested to the same degree and no longer participate, but we share our wins and know enough to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 03:31 AM |
| 3 | It appears that women don't want menMagic, Cribbage and Gin are all best played in a pair, not a group. Kanasta and Rummy can also be 2 player. Are hobbies romantic in general? I can't have quality time with a partner and not be looking to get laid? I am very confused. I can say the opposite is also frustrating: Men do not celebrate a woman's individual personality. I have hobbies and interests This quote is the full thought that you are probing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 08:46 PM |
| 1 | It appears that women don't want menOk. Let's play cribbage, Kanasta, gin, spades, hearts? Magic? Catan? Nome of them are very... feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 08:20 PM |
| 0 | It appears that women don't want menNah- We don't think like that. I'm not attracted to the body but the person inside it. But that's the same for all men. Men who are celebrated for being overwhelmingly attractive are more on spec with traditional beauty standards for women. You think Pete Davidson is cute? No. The answer is no. But he can poke fun at himself. He's honest and genuine- if Pete was broke, I would still give him a shot. If you watch Bupkis, even more so. He attractive because he's a good person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 05:46 PM |
| 15 | It appears that women don't want menI have yet to meet a woman who wouldn’t melt at the sight of a good father or a gentle dog/cat owner. Women are not attracted to physical characteristics as much as emotional and personal ones. Men don't think they are attractive because they think it is all physical but, as women will boldly admit, LOOKS FADE. I can say the opposite is also frustrating: Men do not celebrate a woman's individual personality. I have hobbies and interests. I can beat your ass in Poker but I'm never invited to poke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 05:41 PM |
| 0 | CMV : if you offered this - Stability, kindness, consistency, no drama, aka a steady healthy calm relationship that “ends” your story, most would say noIt was a joke so... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 04:44 PM |
| 0 | CMV : if you offered this - Stability, kindness, consistency, no drama, aka a steady healthy calm relationship that “ends” your story, most would say noI don't think you've met most people, and tbf, neither have I. This may be a cultural thing and connected to average marriage age. People who intend to marry young are not looking for drama- but stability and commitment. As you become more ready to commit, you look for stability and reliability. Personally, I had a lot of hookups and fwb in my early adult life but few SOs because I knew the people I slept with were not good for a relationship- but once I clicked with a person and started dating … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 04:34 PM |
| 1 | CMV : if you offered this - Stability, kindness, consistency, no drama, aka a steady healthy calm relationship that “ends” your story, most would say noI thought 35 was "mid-life" now, not "end of life," it's concerning and comforting. I'm going to make sure my will is in order rn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 04:22 PM |
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