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women are naturally inclined to have desire for the “best mate” & be the selective ones - it’s nature. That doesn’t mean they don’t have sex drives, they still want sex from men they are attracted to. Men are just attracted to a bigger pool of people. But both parties want sex. 2 different things here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 09:02 PM
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In my experience, my friends and i will share certain stories, or experiences that are either really positive or really negative (out of the ordinary). If we’re speaking of an actual boyfriend though, it’s not really anything we discuss unless there is some sort of issue in the bedroom and the friend needs advice. I don’t care to know any of these details when it comes to my friend’s boyfriends anyway. I’d say sex talks don’t consist much of discussing specific men per say, but sex in general, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:31 AM
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Women don’t have non-existent sex drives lmao… and for sure crave intimacy. Date women that actually like you & you’ll realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:16 AM
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i think this question on a online forum where people are anonymous isn’t offensive but in real life that is another story. You should ask once you know the girl a bit better and are comfortable with each other when it comes to opening up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:14 PM
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there’s so many answers that say 8 months, a year, even 2 years.. and women saying they could even wait longer. Why overdramatize things?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:12 PM
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Whether you want to call them Chads, betas or whatever else - they are still men. Each tier is responsible in their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:10 PM
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like i said in my paragraph, women are definitely involved in this but it’s still a 2 way street. Men here complain that the average women, or even below average women have unrealistic standards because they have so many men chasing them even if they are not “worth it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:08 PM
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I didn’t say that successful men hoard beta/unattractive women. Ugly women don’t get above average men. They may get men better looking than them though. I also didn’t say every single man on this planet does this so your boyfriend having a specific kink doesn’t prove anything. You have a different dynamic than most people in relationships. Successful men couldn’t care less if Jim, the chubby loser, gets women or not. If they want sex and a woman who is average in looks is down for it, he won’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:36 PM
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that’s very true as well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:17 PM
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The male equivalent to dating apps is safe, legal and regulated prostitution. It would give men enough options and an easy avenue to what they really want - Sex. The rise of Simp culture (men paying for porn, giving money to twitch thots for existing, following any girl with a nice ass on IG by the millions) arrived right at the time where we witnessed historical rises in male sexual inactivity. I think we also need to acknowledge that porn was not as easily accessible to previous generations to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:12 PM
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sounds like a kink and not exactly what i spoke of
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:50 PM
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I think ultimately it would help yes. The problem nowadays, especially with dating apps, is that people just have way too many options and men are the ones doing most of the pursuing. If women have so many options, it’s because of men. Unfortunately, men aren’t really concerned with that and think about sex first. So the guys that constantly DM girls and get sex through that won’t stop. The rich and tall high status dudes will continue to spend their money & have sex with a bunch of women. Succe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:57 PM
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nope, i think that has to do with women wanting a partner that is “better” than them. If she is of higher status herself, then it’s harder to meet men who are of even higher status. It’s very logical if you believe in hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:30 PM
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i saw somewhere that the higher the IQ a woman has, the most likely she is to be single. And if you’re having casual sex means you’re probably single so it makes a lot of sense
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:44 PM
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I don’t think women age worse. Women are valued for their looks & youth. Men are not. That’s why we judge women past 30 way more harshly than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:22 PM
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The point of my initial reply to you still stands though. What is happening is just a consequence of that history… especially when it comes to America.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 01:34 PM
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Hmm.. italians are very much involved in everything i spoke of. Many european countries did not have colonies or history of racism but Italy isn’t one of them. I’m not speaking about you personally, but society as a whole. Personally i love Italy i’ve been there many times, so i’m not attacking you or your culture but just pointing out the root of the issue you spoke of. Besides, this isn’t “your society” if you’re not even of white american descent. Your family immigrated into a society that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 10:46 PM
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yup, that’s quite sad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 10:03 PM
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Yes i think so too. Most of his audiance are low value men who get a kick out of seeing a man be “real” with women who want men that are deemed of high status. I’ve literally seen men quote him & talk about what high value men want but they don’t have a job or any type of value. Although he’s not wrong in some of the criticism he gives to the women who call - i think the rise in popularity is more related to what you speak of in your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 10:02 PM
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it’s not that your ancestors were weaklings… it’s that destabilizing nearly every country in the world through colonization, imperialism, war, slavery, etc… has consequences I’m not sure why this is so hard to acknowledge or think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:55 PM
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I mean, VS hasn’t been adapting to current cultures and trends and that’s what made them loose millions & close so many stores. They did not adapt as other fashion & clothing brands have. Simple as that. If you want to sell a product than make sure your audience likes it. People don’t idolize models anymore, mainly because the beauty standards have changed & influencers are the ones young women look up the most to. Look at Fenty by Rihanna, her lingerie line is doing good because she works with …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:23 PM
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Love itself isn’t more rare than it used to be. People just have less pressure to form commitment - but commitment isn’t necessarily love. Sometimes it’s duty, it’s what you need to form a family & provide for them. People understood that back then. Plus women relied on men and could not leave - it play a huge role. But none of this has to do with actual love.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:14 PM
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wow, you sound like a dream partner in bed!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:04 PM
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it’s also not the woman’s fault that the man is in charge of doing the penetration. That’s precisely why there seems to be an “imbalance” in acts - the woman is biologically the “reactive” one, or the one receiving. But women still participate & “give” to their partner in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:01 PM
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men have plenty of ways of protecting themselves from that but never bother to do so. If you plant your seed in someone, then realize there may be consequences that are out of your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:42 AM
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I know a few women who stay in bad relationships for the reasons you mentioned, it definitely happens and i personally know a few women in that situation. However, i also i’ve found that there are more and more girls who just prefer to be single & value that over shitty, unfulfilling relationships. I think that mindset is slowly changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 12:51 PM
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people with avoidant attachments usually go for people with anxious attachment. The avoidant push/pulls and the anxiously attached, scared to loose them, will fall for it. Happens all the time, more often than we even realize. I think most people are not securely attached in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:10 PM
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I mean… even young women say these things though? literally go on twitter & tiktok and you’ll see girls between 20-25 saying these things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:45 PM
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i’m not sure why he’s so set on the idea that older women can’t get actual relationships? Like it’s 100 % true that older men want relationships, they are the ones who remarry the most even in old age. Whether it’s because relationships has benefits, like having someone that could take care of you, it’s still a relationship. He’s projecting the fact that all men want is only casual sex and would never date an old woman out of genuine interest. Maybe he can’t see himself doing that but plenty of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:52 PM
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so basically women should be more wary of men than they already are
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:48 PM
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Madonna whore complex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:46 PM
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Well if you have that bad of a social life then maybe consider hobbies that push you to have one. You can fulfill your social desires if you make enough effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:15 AM
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i mean, your whole argument is quite poor anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:13 AM
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well boys will be boys usually refers to behaviour that is quite harmful/misogynistic. I don’t see how that can be equated to liking shopping & makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:56 PM
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this!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:54 PM
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ok and? that is not the fault of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:41 PM
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but they are still MEN. That’s the point. It’s not that men don’t care about superficial things (which isn’t even true) it’s that STRAIGHT men have been conditioned to think that a lot of the things women value are actually “silly” & non-important. It’s not like it’s less in their nature or anything of that manner because we can see that men who don’t have to fit in the “straight male” box tend to explore more when it comes to these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 06:08 PM
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not quite that no
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 06:04 PM
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interesting, thanks for the info!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:45 PM
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Well this a big issue as well… but those things aren’t gender specific. We don’t teach young people about these things regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:44 PM
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I think most of that comes from conditioning. From the moment a little girl is born, she’s thought to value materialistic things and care about her looks… that’s just the reality of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 02:11 PM
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I feel like bald men constantly wearing hats is worse then just going out there & getting a hair piece/wig. You’re still trying to hide it, except it’s way more obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:15 PM
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She never said bald men don’t endure any type of social stigma. It’s just not the same thing as black women, bald men aren’t a race & haven’t experienced that since they were born as black women typically do (unless they are bald because of a decease and not adult baldness). It’s just two different issues here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:12 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:05 PM
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go back to my previous comment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:53 PM
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Yes that’s exactly it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:08 PM
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the speech of an abuser right there
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:05 PM
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Abusers also blame their victims as you seem to be doing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 06:58 PM
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The men on here who clearly dislike women as a whole do a great job at overdramatizing things to validate all the preconceived ideas they have in their heads
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 06:53 PM
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Cognitive dissonance like i said
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 06:47 PM
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That's not faking emotions, that's just having a convincing story. You’re just playing with words. To be an effective liar you obviously have to have a convincing story. Duh! You’re still faking emotions as you are not actually scarred by these things. In order to have a convincing story you have to be able to fake emotions. It all ties in together - no matter what word you try to cherry pick. I mean, if you ignore warning signs and red flags and even people pointing them out of you, at some poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 06:06 PM
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Liars don't feel anything, so you're not feeling nothing yourself, and instead of deciding "Oh, that's a big problem" Liars can fake emotions. We’ve all told lies in our lives that others believed. I am just repeating myself at this point. So at the end of the day, it's fake bullshit women make up to justify things when it's good for them and to be able to play the victim when it turns out bad for them. I mean you’re clearly only concerned in blaming women for their own abuse. Just say that this…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 05:46 PM
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Well that goes back to what i said about empathy and manipulation. We’re going in circles here, the point has already been made.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 05:28 PM
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Ok? I already said women are some wizards who know when people are lying at all times. That means their empathy will be based on the lie they’ve been told. They will feel empathetic thinking that this really happened to the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 05:22 PM
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Lying is not an emotion. This is all just cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 05:15 PM
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Obviously not if you can't pick out that someone is lying to you right from the start. Most guys will realize it right away. Lying is not an emotion though. Women aren’t wizards or body language experts who know exactly when someone is telling a lie. There is a difference here. They get attention for being the victim, which is what they're more interested in than actually solving the problem. This explains your thought process and why you can’t grasp female empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:54 PM
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But sexlessness brings me 100x more misery and depression than loneliness ever has. Well you’re saying “me”, it doesn’t mean it’s the same for every other man because like i said, many of them do complain about things outside of just sex. Plus, sex is an activity that requires another person so sexlessness is a form of loneliness regardless.. because the only way to solve it is by finding someone who wants to have sex with you. Do I get bothered by the loneliness? Yes, but its only for those few…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:34 PM
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Empathy means you can feel/understand other people’s emotions. It doesn’t automatically give you everything that it takes to walk away from an abusive environment, it doesn’t give someone confidence or strength. It just literally means they can sense other people’s emotions, what they do with that sensing is another subject that depends on one’s mental health & coping mechanisms. I’d suggest you read psychological articles on women who are in abusive situations instead of making up scenarios in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:01 PM
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that’s just weird behaviour to purposely ignore your friends on social media. If you think complimenting someone despite their flaws is wrong then just be friends with people who you think look perfect. Like i said, compliments have never kept any girl i know from trying to loose weight. I think men are just generally very deprived of compliments that they overthink this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:56 PM
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So obese women aren’t allowed to have positive comments if they make an effort to post a photo of themselves? What should the friends do… ignore all her social media posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:48 PM
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And if those guys were bland, those women would have no interest in them at all. what does that have to do with your previous comment though? I am explaining that empathy can also make someone prone to manipulation. They are not “feeling” it because they are being manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:46 PM
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Exactly. The amount of overthinking is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:37 PM
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One isn’t exclusive to the other, a girl can be fat and still have beautiful features. It hasn’t kept any of my friends to go on a weight-loss journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:34 PM
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The average american woman is obese. This type of bullshit contributes heavily. the average american man as well, so no it does not contribute heavily. Americans just over-consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:32 PM
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exactly, men really think ugly women don’t get treated worse by both men and women and it’s a very delusional way of looking at things. Sure, beautiful women may have shitty experiences at some point in their lives, but they also get praised by way more people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:26 PM
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Abusive men know how to manipulate that empathy. I’ve seen so many men use their sob story to keep their girlfriends around & to forgive their abusive ways because the woman is “all they have” and they’ve been through abuse themselves. You totally don’t get that more empathetic people can also be more prone to manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:09 PM
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Well they are not able to find people to have sex so it cause loneliness no? And a lot of them don’t just complain about sex but just not being able to talk to girls, get in relationships, etc.. A lot of them don’t just strictly complain about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:10 PM
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false
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:30 PM
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yup!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:18 PM
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"Hey, teen, if you knock her up, you will have to be responsible for the kid for many years." This is not what i am talking about here. You’re not getting it clearly. Of course they know that a child is a responsibility, that’s obvious. We are speaking of birth rates here. Sex education isn’t just about knowing that a child is a responsibility. It’s also being educated on contraception, safe sex practices, etc… It is considered taboo in many of those cultures therefore many people lack the knowl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:17 PM
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Yup, that’s exactly it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:26 PM
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listen, i myself come from a third world country and now live in the west. The education you get about children is nowhere near the same, it is not condescending but realistic. These people don’t know because they are not afforded the same opportunities, not because they are inherently stupid. You are the one equating lack of access to proper education with stupidity so check yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:19 PM
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People in poor parts of the world also don’t have access to the same amount of education. They are not thought what it takes to have children, how you being poor impacts them & their community. They also tend to be more religious- meaning there is also an inherent belief that procreating is more of a duty unless of course, you are a pastor, priest, etc… This is far more of a bigger reason why they are having children despite their situation. edit: * they also have less access to birth control. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:18 PM
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Yes, this constantly happens to this sub. “Average” men are constantly thrown in the same category as actual below average men. I think that’s just a tactic used to justify generalizations towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:41 PM
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exactly had that conversation with the same user. He really doesn’t get that he just proves us right with every comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:38 PM
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You are free to believe what you want & assume what you want, but like i said, men like you are a walking red flag. You are just projecting actions on an individual based on your mistrust of women as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:26 PM
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There's 85 different kinds of birth control for women. Find one that works with no side effects. Every woman can do that. Women are already doing that, but to find that you surely have to try multiple that don’t work & give you side effects first… until you find the correct one. the point still stands The fact that women are weighing their options and deciding abortion and birth control are better than kids tells us VERY clearly that the "risks" are extremely minimal. If the "risks" were greater…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:14 PM
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Meh. Women are telling us abortion isn't that bad based on the millions of them that happen. No, it just tells you raising a child for 18 years is not the better option. Logic. "Solutions"... like HBC, or IUDs? Meh. Women are telling us by their actions that any side effects and risks are well worth it; and that those risks are negligible. Well yes, the side effects are better than having to raise a child you’re not ready for, for 18 years. Again, logic. Most women don't have strokes from using …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:19 PM
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It does. Just because things like abortion are legalized doesn’t mean it’s an experience women want to go through and won’t try to avoid - it can be highly depressing & traumatizing. Plus, most of these solutions carry their own side effects and risks. Let’s not be oblivious to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:54 PM
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A lot of it has to do with social cues
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:20 PM
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he proposed to his wife on the 2nd date, he’s just not someone who waits apparently lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:07 PM
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he calls women broken for waiting before sex on but he’s got multiple failed marriages & asks for proposals on the second date. Can’t take what anyone says on here seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:05 PM
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Ok, and that’s not the place to pick women up & constantly expect positive results. People are busy and may take it the wrong way, you have to be realistic about that too. Einstein.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:59 PM
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it can be viewed as that. You don’t know that person and how their brain works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:57 PM
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No my friends have never done that. Perhaps that’s why i’ve never seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:56 PM
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Women have shit personalities and thats why men don't stay and only want to fuck. Then why complain they about paying for dates? You clearly don’t value or respect women either. What are they getting from you? A guy who thinks low of them, who wants to pump & dump without even having a genuine conversation (aka socializing). Of course they will expect you to pay, that’s the least you probably have to offer anyway. Their job is to complain, hence shitty personality i’m sure you’ve been in tons of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:47 PM
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So now women that want to wait before sex are broken? I swear the jokes just write themselves at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:26 PM
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Nothing will anger them more than a woman giving another man sex with minimal effort but not them. Literally someone replied with this exact scenario. They don’t even realize they are proving our comments right lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:54 AM
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previous comment goes to you too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:50 AM
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These men act like sex itself doesn’t carry way more risks for women. There’s nothing wrong with withholding it until you know a man is truly worth it. They are the same guys who will shit on women with high N counts and single moms. They hate when women are selective but when they aren’t and it backfires… they hate on it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:45 AM
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How is he a good man (for her especially) if he isn’t willing to wait until she’s more comfortable with him to have sex? The fact that those types of guys weed themselves out is the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:41 AM
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You can socialize with women anytime you want, they are the more social animals and love talking - i think that’s common knowledge. The thing is… men (or straight men should i say) don’t actually value socializing with women. If that was the case they’d value even being friends with them a lot more but they don’t. They value the time they spend with women when sex is involved - this changes the dynamics. It is no longer about socializing and we all know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:34 AM
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What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:29 AM
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Sure, but bothering someone while they are busy may cause a negative reaction. That’s a reaction you have to accept if you’re willing to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:29 AM
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and? You’re still interrupting and bothering someone who is visibly busy, don’t then act offended if they don’t respond positively to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:26 AM
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best comment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:25 AM
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The instant access and intensity of it is new though. that is precisely the problem. And i’d argue that the way sex was viewed back then vs how it is viewed in current porn is completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:24 AM
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but why are you going up to someone who’s clearly busy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:40 PM
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If a man is so bothered by his wife not performing certain sexual act, porn isn’t going to stop or lessen that. This already happens to many couples with porn available. Also, porn is quite new to human race. We’ve lived, procreated, had billions of sex & relationships without it. It is not necessary, or beneficial to relationships & we don’t have to start acting like it is in order to “normalize” it. We should normalize healthy sexual habits, whether it’s when watching porn or having sex with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:33 PM
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Ah, you meant when you say that to a complete stranger who is clearly busy/going somewhere? Like in the video?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:26 PM
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I’ve literally never seen a woman claim a guy is creepy for saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:20 PM
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Most of the time the man enters the relationship and does these things, as most people are on their best behaviour in the beginning of relationships… then they stop and it creates frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:46 PM
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that’s your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:43 PM
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I was speaking in relation to the first comment. Context is important here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:29 PM
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you just sound like you spend way too much time on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:25 PM
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Well then you keep facetiming/texting them until you feel comfortable enough for the physical date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:29 AM
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ok? It is true, and it’s relevant to the topic so i brought it up. You’re the weirdo who’s making a big deal out of a simple statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:27 AM
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I didn’t say people are unapproachable, i said they are less approachable than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:35 AM
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Well if these abusers wait until you get to know to abuse you, wouldn’t it be even more reason to be cautious with strangers? Cause we all start as strangers & many women don’t recognize signs of abuse early on. They should be educated so talking about it isn’t irrational. And women have been attacked by strangers, or harassed/raped by dates regardless. Since it still happens and there is are still more risks for women - taking precautions is nowhere near irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:26 AM
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It is not irrational if there is significantly more risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:23 PM
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I’m not arguing whether approaching people is easy, it generally is. But there is a difference between being able to approach people (yourself) and others being approachable. Being approachable has to do with ones body language, non-verbal communication - how they are perceived. Most people using their phones or having headphones on in public does make them less approachable. These things didn’t exist back then so people had to acknowledge each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:05 PM
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Here you go proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:24 PM
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Not awkward at all, never had any issue approaching anyone but these are things people complain about a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:22 PM
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You’re still exchanging a lot of information before said date. Whether it’s text, facetime or by phone. Yes some people can be completely different, but generally you can gather enough information to see if the date is actually worth it in the first place. It certainly helps a lot more. Plus, that stranger you’re cold approaching in the street might be genuinely in a negative mood, already in a relationship, busy, etc… You literally don’t know them. Unless they give you clear signals to talk to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:19 PM
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No one said that, read the comment thread again if you’re lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:06 PM
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If a date has been set up then surely you know the person to an extent. Not the same as approaching a total stranger on the street. There’s no double standard here because the relationship between each group is different. One is a stranger in public & the other is someone you’ve talked/texted for a few days or weeks already.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:57 PM
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Getting therapy won’t change the fact that going on dates and sex carry significantly more risks for women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:55 PM
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Stop spending so much time on Reddit… Most couples consists of two normal individuals without a criminal past.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:50 PM
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Okay and? The question wasn't who did the killing, the question was that people are being killed period. No, it IS relevant as this is a GENDER debate sub. We speak on relationships between men and women so bringing up this point when women are not the main perpetrators is irrelevant to the specific topic. It is also another way of disregarding/minimizing the issue at hand, whether you realize it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:49 PM
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Yes she could, just date a woman who actually cares about you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:35 PM
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As a woman i will always let the guy know i am willing do go dutch but most men insist on paying for the full bill regardless. It’s quite rude to just expect it, especially if it’s a first date & you don’t know really the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:25 PM
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Yup, that is a huge component too. A lot of times these little things women do go aren’t appreciated which contributes to the frustration. It’s one thing to do most of the housework but it’s another thing to be with someone who doesn’t really help and also isn’t really appreciative of it. Most of the time, the men in these situation feel annoyed by the nagging but you have to understand the perspective of the person who’s in that position as well & cleaning up after you. I think communication is…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:28 PM
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Exactly, i don’t think men (who act like that) realize how much of a burden to the relationship this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:21 PM
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To me it sounds like those women are looking for a mind reading robot slave, not a partner. A guy who acts exactly how she wants at all times w/o having to be told, and if he doesn't they nag and criticize him. Do these women not feel their SOs are independent people with their own lives and wants? That’s not the point. Women don’t want to nag, they just want a partner who can clean up after themselves like an adult. Relationships are a lot more balanced nowadays, so there is no reason for men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:15 PM
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Maybe, but you gotta take the opportunity that’s in front of you now & make the best of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:08 PM
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Last part of your comment cracked me up, but you are definitely correct!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:06 PM
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Most of the time women don’t feel super betrayed if there was no talk of commitment before. They may be sad, but they get that it was not discussed prior. However, many men actually pretend they want more when it’s not the case. Feelings can change, but ghosting the morning after clearly shows they were deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:54 PM
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As a woman, i’d say the other commenter is right. Often times, we don’t necessarily know what we want but are naturally more inclined towards relationships so we will automatically expect things to go towards that direction.If the guy is super hot of course, we’ll want them a lot physically so it will be easy for us to disregard the “i don’t want a relationship” part. However, as an average dude i think it would mostly take an actual connection, to get to know the girl a bit more & it’s probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:31 PM
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bingo! They want a Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:09 PM
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That’s true and that’s why i also only entered my first relationship at 20. Most men who approached me where trying to get casual sex first & it never sat well with me. I grew up in a very traditional environment so these ideals of femininity are things i always valued. I wouldn’t say i have all these traits, i definitely have career ambitions, opinions & love socializing. (That list is quite unrealistic imo.) All that to say, most men say they want that but aren’t willing to make the efforts to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:06 PM
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That is true. Now that things are stable people are really open and friendlier than ever i’ve noticed. It’s actually the best time to get out there and meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:40 PM
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it’s common but it’s not the only way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:38 PM
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this is such a good point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:32 PM
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aside from standards, we have to also consider that people were just also generally more approachable. Considering OLD is strictly about looks, an average dude probably has more chances in real life interactions but it becoming less and less common to simply connect with people in real life. People keep to themselves. Even when people meet at parties, it’s completely normalized not to talk to the girl in person & just add her on socials to “slide in the DMs”, we simply don’t know how to properly…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:31 PM
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They are having less sex by choice because it's either top dick or no dick at all. You strongly implied that women have much higher body counts and having much more sex when it is not the case. Are they more picky? For sure... but it’s not due to promiscuity for the most part. There is a difference as i said before. It does your just salty you got proven wrong, and I'm glad you walked right into that one too and you were so confident you were going to be right. Dont write a check your ass cant c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:32 PM
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I mean, the only thing i can think of is less sex = less children (esp paired with low marriage rates) therefore society will not be able to support itself as it does today - so it would makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:49 PM
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isn’t surprising either... like i said, if the proof is here... then it makes sense. Same goes for my initial comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:38 PM
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I’m not denying that society may collapse in the future, i am sure it will. However, reason for the collapse won’t be due to male sexlessness as OP implies. There is a difference here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:36 PM
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if it there are statistics to prove it, why wouldn’t i? Cheaters tend to be hyper sexual anyway so it wouldn’t be surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:24 PM
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Well, regardless, the sexlessness isn’t due to what you explained in your first comment. As a matter of fact it kind of disproves it because more and more women aren’t having sex - by choice and aren’t all overly promiscuous as you seem to imply. That source doesn’t really help your case or proves your reasoning. If more women are choosing to be celibate then that would be a valid reason for men to be more celibate, especially since men have higher sex drives. That is still nowhere near your arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:23 PM
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Why would society collapse because some men are sexually frustrated? Do you even know why sexlessness is rising in the first place? Most of it has to do with: lower marriage rates living with parents longer social media causing less and less real life interactions https://ifstudies.org/blog/number-3-in-2018-male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:02 PM
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it’s honestly so ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:57 PM
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where are your sources? Women report higher rates of sexlessness. Plus most of it is due to lower marriage rates, the fact that our generation stays home with parents even into their 20s more often (thanks capitalism), the rise of social media and less person to person interactions, etc... Not because most girls are only having sex with Chads and rank up body counts that are extremely high. Sure, there are promiscuous women out there, but it doesn’t consist of most of the female population. http…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:50 PM
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ok? Yes women can be egotistical. That was not the question asked by OP so need to “bu... bu.. but women!” me, we are having a conversation about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:28 PM
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how is that person gaslighting you when you title all your post “sexual insecurity”? By asking this question you’re just going to reinforce these insecurities of yours... validate that women do sleep with other men, sometimes more than 5 and this person isn’t wrong in their advice. A girl having more than 5 body counts doesn’t have anything to do with her ability to be in a healthy relationship with you, it doesn’t mean she’ll compare you to anyone, it doesn’t mean she’s had sex with other men f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:21 PM
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sexlessness is rising for both genders though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:09 PM
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Men absolutely care about status. A man who’s ego has been bruised or challenged can be very damaging to those around him as well. Men wanting women in LTR to have minimal body counts, or not have slept around or given it easily to other men (compared to him) is all ego talk. And i even have had men told me they’ve had daydreams about saving a certain girl or just being in a similar scenario & that shows how they generally want to be perceived. Status doesn’t always have to relate to money or jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:03 PM
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Less stable than a generation of people who spend hours on swipe apps, hyper sexualized themselves and use porn almost on a daily basis? Yeah... monks are the ones that are unstable in this situation. No doubt. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:52 PM
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it all depends on how you view sex itself, plenty of people have been celibate in the history of the world and were perfectly healthy mentally. Living in such a hyper sexualized society will have you thinking otherwise... but sex is nowhere near vital to you, especially not as much as water.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:48 PM
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lmfao seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 02:22 PM
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no it’s not. You won’t die from not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 02:14 PM
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Do you think that pressure on your mental health comes strictly from the act of sex (or lack thereof) or the fact that we live in a hyper sexualized society? Hook ups are normalized due to apps, porn shows us all types of sex, the media pushes it too... There is a lot of pressure to think about sex in the first place. Do you think that plays a role at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 02:05 PM
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no, it’s because he’s rich and “high value”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:51 PM
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Not really. Generally, a woman isn’t going to have sex with a guy just because another woman (or a few) did. What you’re saying isn’t as common as you think... the men just genuinely are very attractive in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 01:39 PM
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This sounds like shit that happens in college for the most part, or women who like married men but that’s due to deep rooted issues. Typically, the very basis and reason for a guy to get women is to have “high value” qualities in the first place (whether it’s money, looks, extreme charisma, height, etc) even if he is “average” he probably has certain qualities that put him above other men... and considering that for women those guys represents a small demographic of men... then they are bound to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:20 AM
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Pls, not everything is about feminism or promiscuity. According to urban dictionary hot girl summer means: A summer full of fun. Coach Meg aka Megan thee Stallion, the creator of hot girl summer, said it best... Hot girl summer is about “just being you, just having fun. It’s turning up, driving the boat and not giving a damn about what nobody’s saying.” A summer where you are in charge of your own happiness. Chase the bag and we ain’t crying over no man PERIODt. It literally means not making men…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:10 AM
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Because you’re reaching, simply put. Men are not raised to be caretakers as women are... I’d argue that women’s existence has pretty much always been about the needs of men, especially in our cultures. It’s as if you also do not consider the woman’s perspective here, my perspective allows me to see that men are simply raised much differently - no matter how progressive our society is. They do not know how to be self sufficient because their mothers coddled them for too long, while expecting the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 02:28 AM
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pretty much! Even if they want to... they don’t have the same opportunities as previous generations
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:28 PM
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players and fuckboys are able to be that way because they have qualities women like: handsome, tall, fit, etc... they aren’t into the fact that he’s a fuckboy. There’s just a small demographic of men who fit into these categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:49 PM
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yup, this jealousy is so obvious and extremely present in pill subs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:47 PM
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they are sexually frustrated and looking for every little excuse to criticize women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:45 PM
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well this sounds like a personal problem the avg dude has, not an issue that is out of their control. It is a dumb take.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:53 PM
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Women hate this ideology not because men don’t like women who sleep with many dudes, it’s because men will still give those women a lot of attention, focus on hooking up with them, pay/watch the adult content that they post online, etc... It’s that sluts are both idolized and despised by the same group of people. Make it make sense. Of course some men do not do both, but generally speaking - Men have no issue sleeping with easy girls, even taking them out on a few dates just to fuck while also l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:13 PM
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I didn’t say men are dumb for not taking care of themselves like women. You people always overdramatize explanations which is laughable. Read my first comment again... my point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:58 PM
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I am also African so i know about the subject too & comparing western men to how africans were perceived during colonialism is beyond ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:41 PM
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Imagine finding every reason in the book for not knowing how to look after yourself... And comparing your situation to the 3rd world as a western man of this generation AKA probably the most privileged group of men that’s ever existed in history and the world. Crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:56 PM
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Yep, watching porn from the ages of 12 really did a number on men of this generation but they are nowhere near ready to address that. Especially the ones who lack real life experience with women or aren’t friends with any.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:13 AM
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male bodies are nice... if they are healthy. that’s it. Just like men prefer a non-fat woman. I’m straight so as “nice” as women’s bodies are or can be... they don’t make me horny. Men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:05 AM
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I love being put together and look nice & i personally love a guy who does the same. Wears cologne/perfume, has good clothes, etc... Personally for me, doing my makeup, or getting ready is kind of therapeutic. Like your spending time pampering yourself. I don’t think i could do it every single day though, my skin is quite sensitive haha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:00 AM
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Exactly, women now have to do these jobs outside of the home therefore it only makes sense that they share in-home duties with their spouse. If my husband has dangerous job, that involves hard labor i don’t mind doing those things, but that doesn’t represent most of the current male population (only about 13% for blue collar workers). I’ve only dated guys that either had office jobs or their own business, i have my own too. This idea that all men are doing extreme labor and therefore women shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:48 AM
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you’re not helpless, people are giving you advice and telling you what to do but you’re not willing to actually do the work on yourself it seems. You attract whats within.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:56 PM
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That’s not the point though. There are double standards for sure but this situation isn’t a reflection of that. People are giving him good advice and aren’t saying this just because he’s a man. Anyone who has toxic relationships patterns needs to hear these things. If you bring up an issue, make sure it’s actually relevant to the situation/post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:55 PM
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exactly, they are acting like women weren’t literally forced out of education, finances & weren’t married off by their teens... like you had everything available to you, of course you’ll achieve more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:52 PM
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It has nothing to do with spending his money but making responsible choices as an adult. Frozen meals are unhealthy and will end up costing more overtime. And you’re acting like men don’t find comfort in having a nice home, a meal, or good quality hygiene products. Most, if not all, do. You just don’t have to wait for a girlfriend to show you or help you with these things like some men do. Personally, i grew up with 4 brothers and i will say that the one who is the least self sufficient is the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:43 PM
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seeing your comments here, i understand why. I hope you’ll listen to what people on here are telling you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:30 PM
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Has nothing to do with being a man. If a girl constantly dates assholes then screams “men are trash” what are you going to tell her? What is your guess as to why she’s in such relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:27 PM
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You’re experience is no different than what some women experience - bad relationships are everywhere. A pattern of toxic relationships could be an indication that you may have some things to work on yourself. This is no different than women who date assholes and scream “men are trash”. Instead of saying “women are awful” look at why you entered & stayed with those people in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:23 PM
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Black american women then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:35 AM
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No, body standards are not on just on men because clearly black women are the least approached and their skin color and features clearly affects that. When saying body standards you are not acknowledging things like hair, skin tone, etc... Men generally prefer a lighter skin toned (esp if it’s a black woman that is darker than most), they don’t prefer Afro hair - (why many black women historically had to wear hair extensions & wigs). Racial preferences are all based on body differences, so if bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:33 AM
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nah i don’t really feel like it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:52 PM
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there are many factors to it, but yes, i have my theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:17 PM
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Men's unsuccessful dating lives often get blamed on their poor: ability to take good pictures of themselves, dress fashionably, be of good company, etc So would you say these things have zero effect on a man’s dating life/success? Women don't naturally put "more" effort into themselves than men do. We all put the same effort. Well this is a very vague statement. We are speaking of looks, appearance, etc.. Women spend considerably more time and money on their appearance. There is statistical evid…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:11 PM
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That maybe its not so much about them being obsessed with younger women but rather hating on women their own age for denying them sex while they were broke. And being all over them once they started making money. Sounds like he needs therapy to resolve those feelings rather than chasing younger women out of spite. Unless it’s the actual women who were making fun of him in HS, then he has no reason to project his experience on every woman his own age. Also, if those young women find him appealing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:33 PM
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Those girls are never single because they have codependency issues & settle for any man that gives them attention - no matter how toxic he is. The nice pretty girl probably doesn’t post thirst traps and doesn’t want to be with the type of guy girl #1 is into. You don’t see them with a line of dudes waiting behind her, not because men don’t want to fuck her, but because she probably doesn’t flirt or entertain them AND also because men can see themselves that girl #1 is probably an easier fuck tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:24 PM
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Whether they do it for themselves or men doesn’t matter. The point is that these things allow them to look a lot more attractive & men do not put nearly as much efforts in their looks on average. A man could go to the barber, find a style that suits him, do his skincare and other similar things women do... all for himself, but the side effect will probably that he will looks better which will give him attractiveness points when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:09 PM
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comments like these are so useless
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:05 PM
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he just didn’t age as well as other hollywood actors imo, but 10-15 years ago he was extremely handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:03 PM
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you got steve jobs money? Until then, yes, dressing well could help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:01 PM
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the thing is, women do their skincare, wax/shave (yes even the face), have makeup, hair is a huge component to frame your face and women spend a lot on that, sometimes other procedures. Men aren’t doing these things, or if they do there isn’t nearly as much time & care spent on those things. Until men start actually putting the same effort as women we can’t actually say “they just don’t have nice faces”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:59 PM
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Yes, i think the men who make such statements just aren’t friends with women & probably have little experience with FWB relationships. And women who prefer LTRs probably got in a situation where they told the guy they were ok with FWB but actually had feelings so they became wary of those types of friendships. But those are people who can’t communicate properly obviously. Two mature adults can care for each other, be friends and have sex every once in a while. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:23 PM
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the thing is... these subs are quarantined for the exact reason the previous commenter gave. Reddit has rules & such threats aren’t allowed. People can have their opinions, but extreme violent statements are another thing. You can’t just gloss over that part & say the two aren’t being held to the same standard. They most likely are, it’s just that many of these groups don’t respect Reddit’s content policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:09 PM
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A lot of these subs are constantly taken down because many users tend to make outward violent threats against women. And if it’s taken down, then of course, there will be less people joining. However, even across different platforms you can see these groups rise in numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 04:08 PM
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Men are still the main income earners in households. Which is exactly what my point was. “Get a good job and you’ll get your wife & family”. You are still making an income for yourself to then be able to get those things. Which isn’t the same expectation women have to be more hands on inside the household, to be the primary caretakers. To be caring and empathetic directly and not through their work. I clearly said this isn’t inherently a man’s trait but just an effect of conditioning. And it sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 03:59 PM
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Their fathers should be doing it, but most of the time these boys' mothers have kicked their fathers out of their sons' lives. Or they chose to procreate with shitbags. What about the average american that indeed has a relationship with their father. That’s a good chunk of the population (3 out of 4 children) yet so many young men still aren’t thought these things by important male figures in their lives. Why? Especially considering the scenarios you speak of represent a minority realistically. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:38 PM
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You’re kind of all over the place honestly. You mentioned rape, needing a chaperone, criminalizing calling men out, now it’s just wait to have sex if you want a LTR. Do you even know what you’re issue actually is? Or will you just come up with the next best thing every time i provide a rebuttal? My response to your original post has already been established and explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:21 PM
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ok? And military service members represent about 1% of the US population, men and women included . This doesn’t prove anything about the average male.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 08:07 PM
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“dumb hole” ... Now i understand all of this. and who talked about criminalizing anything? They are just saying “call it out”. If you need to overdramatize the statement in order to prove a point, you’ve already lost credibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 07:33 PM
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So committing fraud and lying to your parents about where you’re going to is the same? Narcissistic abuse/manipulation is the same as a white lie? Why are you acting like some actions don’t have worse repercussions than others?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 07:19 PM
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Ok, and the men you spoke of are not of the current generation. Culture changes. Millennials and Gen Z men have not grown up with the same values and expectations. So yes, strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 07:10 PM
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are men taking the time to teach young boys these things? do men care about each other? Older women always give advice and try to help younger women all the time. Why expect a woman to show a boy how to be a man? What are men doing? Why are they leaving boys to figure everything for themselves? And i don’t see how this relates to old men who try to manipulate younger women... two wrongs don’t make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 07:04 PM
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these subs consists of hundreds & thousands of men are definitely becoming more and more popular. These people still live in society. That’s why men like Kevin Samuels have become extremely popular overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 06:35 PM
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explain...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 06:19 PM
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It's inherent to humans, but apparently men's doing it is "more harmful" to women than the reverse. Who said it is more or less harmful? Perhaps it is more talked about towards men because men generally do these specific actions (you spoke of in your previous comments) more often than women. But no one said it’s ok for women to do it... i’d like to see where i specifically said so since you’re bringing this up as a rebuttal. Two wrongs don’t make a right. You’re taking “men should call each othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:47 PM
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most women aren’t in the fuckzone but LTRs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:33 PM
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They hyperfocus on what literally STACY is living and call this the experience of womanhood. THIS. They literally only acknowledge these types of women and act like their experiences represent most women’s. These men literally do not acknowledge women that aren’t pretty white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:32 PM
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I think the “women are wonderful effect” applies to white women specifically. They are the ones that are coddled & overly protected/praised in society. For black american women for example, they deal with constant negative stereotypes and people, especially men, do not view them as “wonderful”. That’s why there are so many rap songs, by black artists that state the opposite of ‘woman are wonderful’. It’s the case for many other WOC, maybe asian women are the only ones who fall in the category of…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:15 PM
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this is just a narrative to push whatever preconceived notions they have about women. That they only chase chads & fuckboys until 30 then hit a wall and become unappealing. This is the modern woman and that’s why they struggle so much in their own dating lives. In reality, that’s not the case, most are indeed in long term relationships and value that. At 23, i don’t personally know any woman who’s into the type of man the commenter spoke about (aka ‘fuckzone’) - that is unappealing to women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 04:46 PM
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You’re acting like MGTOW/TRP/PPDsubs aren’t widely popular and don’t consists of men criticizing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 04:38 PM
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yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 04:32 PM
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Didn’t we just have a few threads saying that it is okay for women to exploit and manipulate men as long as it is legal? Did i say that? Why are you mentioning some random post that has nothing to do with me? not an argument. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Marital rape was legal back then and such, so ofc it was common as it wasn’t seen as wrong and was legal (in before someone misinterprets it). Ok, so you’re reinforcing my statement saying women were still raped. It was just normalized. It did…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:35 PM
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ok, that’s their business. I never said women doing it isn’t wrong so your statement is irrelevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:29 PM
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but why are you now being broad in your statement and wanting to over simplify these questions? Yes all human beings are capable of lying. Even children. We are speaking of a specific scenario - deception/lying/manipulation in order to have sex. Are men doing this and can’t stop because it is an inherent trait in them? Is that why wanting more men do call out other men useless?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:22 PM
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you didn’t answer the actual questions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:48 PM
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Well it seems like you’re implying that men cannot keep themselves from lying and deceiving. Is it inherently a man’s trait? Is that why it’s impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:28 PM
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Sure, but don’t say these are complaints of sexual liberation. They are complain about certain men’s behaviour. There’s a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:25 PM
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did i say it wouldn’t be wrong for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:19 PM
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I did not say that. Strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:17 PM
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exactly, what a delusional way of looking at things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:16 PM
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Lol, you definitely edited your original post to target comments like mine. But i did not say women who are 25 and under shouldn’t date older, i even specified that as of 21-22 i really don’t care but this applies to people in their late teens or those who just got out of it. You are indeed more susceptible mentally as you do not have the same capacity of assessing risks, consequences etc. This mostly goes for 18-19 year olds... i didn’t say 25. And your articles did show that people of these ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:13 PM
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Now I ask, when comparing porn to say cheese stuff crust pizza with all your favorite toppings in the mental buttons it pushes, what exactly is the most healthy relationship to it? Exactly, porn users are after a dopamine rush. That’s exactly why some people can even get addicted to it. And like anything else, by enjoying it in moderation. You can eat that pizza every once in a while but don’t make it a habit to have it too many times. Have a balanced diet. Eat natural foods as much as you can a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 02:05 PM
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really... kanye west is your source? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:46 PM
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They can’t loose weight because they don’t have a healthy relationship with food. Just like some people don’t have a healthy relationship with porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 04:41 AM
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no significant changes happen to men when they become fathers. Even if there are slight changes in fathers, it doesn’t compare to women as they are the ones who are growing an actual human being inside of them. The changes it causes the the brain can last years. It’s not just hormone levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 04:37 AM
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Yes, since sexual freedom happened. It allowed more women to avoid such situations which are 10x more damaging than having sex with some f boy who tricked you in. Both situations are bad, but don’t trick yourself into thinking things were somehow more fair for women sexually back then. They started seeking freedom for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:37 AM
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Thinking it's so awful, but not wanting to give up freedom, it always turns to EdUcATe men. Why are the two mutually exclusive? Can we not live in a society that allows people to be sexually free and also value honesty when it comes to sex? To not take every legally permissible step to fuck them? Yes. Is that impossible for a man to do? Is honesty suddenly not valuable/important if pussy is involved? Is it wrong to want that? Why did you mention this as if it’s a given & obvious choice to make f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:31 AM
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it didn’t work any better before, women were still raped & often couldn’t even leave their perpetrators or even had to carry their baby. Even if it was their family member. Are you delusional about the past or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 01:06 AM
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Tbh i would be happy as it shows that he genuinely wants to get to know me, wants something serious and worthwhile. Also that he’s extremely mature & understands himself and his needs. I am someone who also prefers to get to know the other person before getting to the physical stuff wheras other women might fall into a different category, i think red pill just generalizes women which is the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 10:05 PM
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Yes, it’s called synaptic pruning or gray matter pruning. Pregnancy literally changes the brain of a woman & allows them to bond more with their baby and have more empathy. It’s science.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 09:58 PM
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Pregnancy affects your brain & does allow women to be more empathetic in order to better understand their babies needs. It happens to all animals. Women murdering children isn’t common, women much commit less murders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 09:49 PM
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Not really, some of it has to do with how women and men are conditioned. Men aren’t thought or encouraged to be as emotionally tuned & aware because it goes against what “being a man” is. If they can’t be vulnerable towards themselves then it becomes harder to be the same way to others. As advanced as we are in society, we still deal with gender roles. Men aren’t conditioned to care for others, but to care for themselves in order to have what they want. You self improve, workout, get a good job …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 09:46 PM
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How much porn do you need to watch to know what a vagina, boobs or penis look like then imagine it? Also, you think virgins didn’t masturbate before porn was a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 08:20 PM
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Yes and it’s weird how this isn’t talked about. We don’t talk about how newer generations have a completely different view pf sex and relationship with sex because most have had access to all kinds of porn from such a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 08:16 PM
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I think this is the best example of how far that manipulation can go, especially when you mentioned how he said you needed guidance because you lacked a father figure. This happens all the time in age gap relationships & having “daddy issues” is joked about a lot when it’s a huge component of grooming & the older men are the ones that are fully aware of this. It’s about control & submissiveness for them. I’m so sorry about what you went through and i applaud you for starting from scratch & doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 08:10 PM
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You’re brain isn’t fully developed & that makes you more susceptible to manipulation, not fully understanding consequences or risks, etc... I’d say for 21/22+ it’s harder to manipulate and i personally don’t care for anyone (that age) who chooses to date older. At that point you have been able to either go to college or work, having been through a relationship or two, etc.. So you are a lot more mature than at 18 let’s say. People don’t realize how much you change within those years. 3-5 years i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 07:55 PM
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It’s still not similar, because it’s two people satisfying each other sexually. Whether feelings are involved it still cannot be compared to watching porn. You’re acting as if women get nothing from sex when it’s an experience that is enjoyed by two parties. Not all fwb consists of a girl being head overheeld for a fuckboy who couldn’t care less about her or her pleasure. There’s typically still a good connection between both people & the guy will care to satisfy her sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 07:24 PM
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being fwb with a guy doesn’t mean he won’t care if you die. It’s not similar whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:21 PM
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Yes many people here actually fall into the categories you’ve mentioned but have deluded themselves into thinking they are average and their experiences reflect most men’s. I think any person reading posts & comments on here need to remember that, because some of them can carry really extreme views as well. That isn’t a reflection of most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:25 PM
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They do. Even fat women make themselves appealing. Yes fat girls get laid, but it doesn’t mean the girl isn’t taking care of herself in other ways. Men think working out, not being fat is the only standard but i am sure if most women walked around completely unshaved (legs, underarms and all), didn’t take good care of their hair, never wore makeup... then surely they would find less women attractive. It goes beyond just being skinny, curvy or fat. Also we can’t forget that men will often treat t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:16 PM
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nah, cause men love thinking a girl “is playing hard to get”. As long as she’s attractive... It’ll work. it’s the same concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:23 PM
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Exactly, they think it’s a women thing when men fall for this too. A lot of men will chase you even more if you act this way & convince themselves that “she’s playing hard to get”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:21 PM
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exactly.. they are just trying to find new ways to hate on women. that’s all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:10 PM
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No it’s not. Because if you had a woman showing interest in you (aka flirting) and you got really pumped about connecting with her and she ended up rejecting you & acting like she was never interested in you, you’d probably be even more frustrated. And if most girls did this i am sure you’d find a way to say they also have no empathy because they are leading men on with no real intentions and playing with feelings. At least now, women aren’t being fake. A lot of people ask for dating or flirting…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:08 PM
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If you flirt someone you’re not attracted to then you’re giving them false hope and basically having to reject them later. It just opens a can of worms for no reason. I think flirting is a good skill, however, i’d argue that just being socially intelligent, open & friendly is way more important. You can work on your “game” once you secure some dates, but you don’t have to be super flirtatious to get the date. Just be someone who’s good at conversations & nice to be around. Personally, im more of…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 09:56 PM
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no that’s the average man...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 09:46 PM
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how? I didn’t say you were not entitled to feel this way.. but call it what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:18 PM
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The thing is... you are looking at things with your male perpective and assuming women want the same thing. Old women don’t crave sex. They don’t care for it as much. Female nature is to look for men who have status, are strong, so that her offsprings have the best genes and are provided security. Right? If she’s 50 or 60 and has already gotten those things, what would be the point in chasing men? She’s not even horny anymore. Stop thinking with your male brain. You’re just proving my point. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:11 PM
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Well, yes, which why i said men crave women more than women crave men. Men loose way more in divorce but are quick to remarry because they need (or want/crave) women a lot more, even in old age. Most women who have been through 1 or 2 divorces choose to remain single, of course i am sure they would want romantic love, but to them it isn’t as bad as you’re trying to convince yourself of with your male brain. Most no longer want marriage and value being grandmothers, mothers and having companionsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:32 PM
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Looking to be euthanized at 60 isn’t realistic. Being old is not a painful, incurable disease in which that type of procedure is needed, especially not at that age. Your negative speech pattern is also unrealistic and depressing. Clearly you’re not realizing how you sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:21 PM
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damn, you just sound depressed buddy. Hope it gets better for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:14 PM
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You seem to have an unrealistic view of being an elderly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:12 PM
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You think your dick will work the same at that age? Also, im sorry you never had companionship... but this was a post about being married, which means you would’ve experienced that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:10 PM
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Like i said, better start saving now. She’s probably going to be fine single. Men crave women more than the opposite. They are the ones still chasing women for companionship even in old age, it’s just that now... you’ll have to spend much more money & probably will get scammed a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:55 PM
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It’s the opposite. Men can’t be actual friends with women they are attracted to & would want to sleep with as they want more than just friendship with them. What i think this phrase is trying to say is that many men will not acknowledge women & treat them in a friendly way unless they are attracted to them & would want to sleep with them. But treating someone nicely, or being friendly with them doesn’t automatically make you their friend, especially if you have ulterior motives. People just conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:46 PM
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this is so important to remember. Men here do not even represent all or even the average man realistically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:41 PM
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yes, i think people here have a very unrealistic view of marriage and growing old with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:37 PM
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Well, then she’ll leave as you deem her useless and you’ll be a 60 year old man, alone, who has to pay young women to spend time with him. Hope you won’t spend all the retirement money on that, better start saving now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:34 PM
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Well, surely, if she’s been married to you for decades you can help her make good lifestyle choices. Just like she can help you do the same. Don’t smoke, have a good diet, good skin care, exercise. These are all things you can support each other with in a relationship. It’s not like you’ll look your best either at 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:33 PM
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Yup, i’ve always said this. Straight men don’t put that much effort in their appearance & even when they try, they are often clueless and don’t necessarily pick what’s most flattering to them. Mostly because they aren’t socialized to... But they need to stop acting like this has zero correlation in their attractiveness. Some of the most attractive guys i see on an average day are gay guys because, unlike straight men, they are way more knowledgeable on this subject and aren’t afraid to explore w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:20 PM
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clearly, you missed the point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:11 PM
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Of course we are all biased in some ways, this doesn’t just apply to relationships but everything else in life. That’s why communication is important. Instead of condemning your partner for the actions you deem abnormal, try your best to understand their point of view and the “why”. Too many couples fail at this and this is why there is so much conflict around the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:53 PM
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Would you tell him you think this? He’s said it before i even did. Btw, idk why being average on this sub is considered an insult. He makes a mid-wage income, he’s not particularly fit, or super tall so by this sub’s definition he’s not a “Chad”, that’s all i meant... But it’s not a bad thing. Doesn’t change the fact that i’ve never been attracted & loved someone that much. To society’s standards he is average, to me he is beyond that. Actions speak louder than words. We’ve been together for a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:20 AM
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not it’s not the same, wtf are you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:11 AM
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no the “yikes” is in regards to you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:09 PM
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the point was to say that things are not black and white. Dead bedrooms don’t just result from women denying sex, the opposite can happen too, and usually those ppl have deep rooted marital problems
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:02 PM
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yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:01 PM
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idk, or maybe it’s because i’m in a relationship. My boyfriend is as “average” as it gets and i wouldn’t even think of leaving him for anyone else ... & it’s not like other men don’t try. I guess actual love is rare so it’s easier to find women that can be easily “stolen” by another dude with more status or money. But like i said, a woman who does that was never yours to begin with, she was never the one. Better let her use social media so you can see her true colors before deciding to build any…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:44 PM
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Really great analysis. This absolutely makes sense, i wish conversations like these happened more often between men and women because that’s how you truly learn. You’re definitely right, we need to take a step back and really look at things for what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:39 PM
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Well, then like i said, she was never the one anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:36 PM
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Your whole comment is absolute horseshit 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:35 PM
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Or maybe it’s the abusive men tend to have multiple victims?! Which means even if not all men are doing these things it will affect alot of women. This is just an old rhetoric that “nice” guys use to make themselves feel better while implying that women do these things to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:33 PM
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ok lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:30 PM
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exactly lol, that couple has been in an open relationship for years apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:49 AM
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That’s ridiculous, she had social media before the relationship, all those men giving her attention and still chose you. Unless you genuinely think she’s someone who needs validation/attention that bad... in that case she ain’t the one anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:42 AM
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Yup, i have 4 brothers & they thought me the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:37 AM
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Have you considered that maybe women are not a monolith and some have more fears than others, others trust more easily, others are in between. Abusive relationships don’t start out as abuse, if you’ve ever had a narcissist in your life you’d understand. I had a family member who was, never a partner, but these people are con artists. Plus... i don’t recall all women being & staying with abusive partners. The ones who do made bad decisions but plenty leave them, they just look for a certain type …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:33 AM
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Of course. Those truly addicted have negative impacts in their lives because thats literally the definition of addiction lmao. well, yes. That’s why i didn’t say porn watchers but specifically talked about porn addiction. Yes, of course i am assuming you're part of the group that argued all porn is evil. Have you SEEN the other comments in this thread?? Ok....? Being against porn addiction means saying porn is evil? Perhaps spend less time on these subs, cause it’s clearly not allowing you to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:35 AM
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Like i said, if that’s how you process your emotions naturally... No problem with that. But if you do it because you think voicing anything to others is being “emotionally weak” then that’s not healthy. Just let yourself be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:44 AM
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Well the negative impacts of porn addiction have already been analyzed, and even teenagers can suffer from it so it can come before relationships are even in the picture. I’m not sure why you’re still going on. I’ve never been on the FDS sub and like i said, i don’t think watching porn itself is anything bad. I can recognize the difference. I know most men watch porn and aren’t addicted. Not sure what the point of your paragraph is, seems like you’re assuming i’m part of that group when i frankl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:41 AM
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So can you please explain why you believe porn is the CAUSE of DBRs rather than the RESULT of DBRs? I did not say it is the cause of DBRs. I believe DBRs can happen for a multitude of reasons and doesn’t just boil down to porn or one reason. However, if someone does happen to have a sex addiction, they are more likely to experience dead bedrooms OR other issues in the relationship. They are even more prone to depression. (an article explaining it, another article with research that back up) Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:17 AM
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I don’t think he meant men make bad/shitty decisions but like you said, they seek female validation just like someone might seek drugs. But yeah, i said perhaps they are just stubborn cause that analogy was a bit extreme lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:30 PM
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So you don’t want people to make gross generalizations about men but then proceed to do the same for women... Checks out!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:27 PM
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Not really cause women don’t remarry even if they find new relationships. It’s men who choose to remarry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:26 PM
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Well, if it was the main cause why wouldn’t there be at least small scale studies on this subject? Especially since the subject of porn addiction itself is spoken about often. You would just simply analyze men who struggle with these issues to speak on how/when it started. Even high status men, like Terry Crews, who could get addicted to real sex, cheat easily, still suffered from it. It’s because like any other addiction - it is a coping mechanism for deeper issues. Not to say that dead bedroom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 09:36 PM
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The thing is watching porn itself and having an addiction is different. I can agree with what you are saying, a lot of women don’t like their boyfriends/spouse watching porn because it results in them feeling insecure because they cannot compete with these professional sex actresses. However, porn addiction ruins actual sex. Porn addiction doesn’t mean just watching porn as the average person does, it doesn’t mean you have a high sex drive, it is called an ‘addiction’ for a reason. Just like you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 09:22 PM
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But are there any correlation that show that this addiction often stems from dead bedrooms? Because more often than not, men that are addicted to porn struggle to have sex in real life. That’s what the addiction does. So they then become a cause of the dead bedrooms themselves. Are there any statistics to support the link between the two?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:51 PM
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Do you have any stats on porn addiction in dead bedrooms? I mean if it’s the case i’d love to know more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:45 PM
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I guess it's good to have friends if you need help with something. Not necessarily, yes friends are great to have support when in need. But just to have people to do hobbies with, laugh, joke around , travel with... i mean the list goes on. Friendships actually have a bigger impact on our well beings than most people realize. Even more than family relationships. I can't think of anything a woman can help me with besides sex. Well that might be cause you view women as just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:44 PM
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I don't think that's the reason they marry Why do you think then? Because i personally, don’t comprehend that much. To me it must be that men genuinely aren’t conditioned to process their emotions correctly, to simply be strong, self improve & not be vulnerable. So the next best thing is getting a spouse. A lot of people use relationships to regulate themselves emotionally, to make themselves happier, women do it too. In my head, that would be the only valid reason why men remarry way more than …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:32 PM
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go in the sub deadbedrooms and you’ll see that many women actually are the ones who want sex but not getting it. You can’t say that porn addiction can only result from not getting sex from your wife, most addictions are usually deeper rooted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:18 PM
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It’s not my word, it is the word of the person i was replying to. And it doesn’t change the fact i mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:11 PM
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i can agree to that. That’s probably a reason why men marry so often because they rely on their spouse for emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:09 PM
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There are multiple causes to divorce. My comment was not directed at you so i don’t care to get into that discussion. You can start a thread with this question if you want to debate on it, it surely is a valid one. But if we are talking about men being aware of the possibility of divorce, those causes, the divorce rates, etc... Men are indeed aware, yet they still marry, and even remarry. That’s a simple fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:07 PM
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seems like more men are susceptible to being junkies then... or maybe it’s stubbornness, who knows
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:40 PM
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Why women divorce is a different conversation. The commenter said that people “can’t comprehend the negative consequences down the line”. I am saying they do, and even when they go through it themselves, many still choose to do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:38 PM
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Yes, he’s not even realizing how damaging this mindset is to his own gender. You can learn how to process your emotions on your own and still communicate with people. I feel like men sometimes feel like this mean they have to cry and break down in front of people when in reality it just means be more open and don’t dismiss your emotions just to feel like a “man”. Weakness is not being able to be open about who you are, how you feel and being avoidant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:32 PM
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Not discussing it openly is actually a sign of emotional weakness. I mean, it’s fine if you are a private person but if it comes to the point where it’s a part of keeping everything inside... any psychologist will tell you it’s unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:28 PM
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Yup, men tend to dump everything on their partner and have been socialized to do so. That’s why women “sticking by his” side and all that bullshit is so glamorized and praised by society. And i think this created frustration which why women now don’t necessarily feel like doing this anymore. Men are thought to control their emotions, not open up about though things and it causes them to see how women communicate as emotional labor. It’s not even that we try to use them as “platonic boyfriends” i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:25 PM
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In my experience, men who have female friends (both straight) are guys who truly enjoy socializing and getting to know people, and of course don’t see women as uninteresting beings with tits and a vagina. They don’t just view women as a mating tool. They don’t look at the fact that women are “talkative” as bad, because they also enjoy conversations. On the other hand, men who have typically zero female friends and try to have them, usually aren’t really their friends and were expecting more whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:18 PM
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Most men are fully aware of the consequences but still do it. As a matter of fact, even divorced men choose to remarry more often than women despite loosing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:05 PM
1

what’s the point of having any friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:58 PM
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ok then tell him that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:57 PM
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I commented that because the guy has been raging all over my posts so i was agreeing with him being a loser. Not sure why you felt the need to insert yourself & made personal comments about me when you lacked context.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:00 PM
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but what does that have to do with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:37 PM
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why not? I’m not sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:35 PM
2

so women date men that look considerably better than them or the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:57 AM
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Well, if we’re talking about being conventionally attractive - no, not all of them are. I pick friends based on connection not looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:41 AM
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HMV was not mentioned here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:39 AM
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You’re all over the place with your comments, i’m not interested in going anywhere with you buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:39 PM
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no, i simply replied to the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:35 PM
1

don’t hit him with too many facts, he might not be able to handle it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:05 PM
1

did you read the previous comment or are you being purposely oblivious?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:04 PM
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It’s also because most of them are speaking of a specific demographic of women when they have these conversations, whether they realize it not. Men are completely oblivious to women they aren’t attracted to and think “fat” is the only way you could be deemed as unattractive if you’re a woman. Realistically, they mostly love young, skinny white western women. Which is fine, but it’s far from all women, and their habits, experiences, values, etc...don’t reflect all women. They have an ideal type, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 07:06 PM
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bingo!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:58 PM
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exactly, they are mostly changing themselves for validation or insecurity because they deem him so attractive. Which happens to highly attractive women as well. It’s not about true love, which is rare to get for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:57 PM
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It's hard to figure if all men pursue women based on attraction or just merely opportunity. that all depends on the guy’s own attractiveness level & of course... if he has standards
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:53 PM
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which is weird because they also vilify women for also wanting the 20%. They want the female equivalent of Chad but get mad at women for wanting Chad. Doesn’t make much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:41 PM
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I think they want women to hit a wall because of their own issues and insecurities and it’s just weird. Thank you for sharing a realistic perpective because this sub can be really depressing at times because of people like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:35 PM
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thank you, this guy clearly has deep rooted issues & hates women. I don’t feel bad for these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:32 PM
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not really, i think maybe for high school girls, but in my experience girls are much more friendly if they deem you pretty. Only extremely insecure girls get jealous, but it’s not a majority at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:27 PM
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The fact that he equals the two is just concerning imo & i know he’s not alone with that train of thought. that’s why so many men don’t care or get annoyed when women speak about being harassed. He doesn’t grasp the difference between attraction and crossing boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:25 PM
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exactly... it’s genuinely concerning
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:23 PM
5

yikes, you sound like a creep
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:22 PM
1

asian male stereotypes, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:21 PM
1

and to OP
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:19 PM
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because it’s easier for them to do than asian men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 05:50 AM
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You didn’t ask if i wanted to trade anything off, you asked if i would miss it. No i wouldn’t. And looks+youth is temporary, the mental scars of harassment & how it sometimes makes you perceive men isn’t something i deem worthy. Especially because i am still pretty much an introverted shy girl & only been in 1 relationship in my life. I’d imagine that trade off would be beneficial to other girls would use their pretty privilege more. Like i said, I’ve been the unattractive one before, that would…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:51 AM
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You’re the weirdo who thinks women have no personality. Says more about you than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:38 AM
1

says the guy who lacks women in his life
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:24 AM
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Will i miss being harassed? Or having my boundaries not respected? No i won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:13 AM
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not the greatest comeback
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:12 AM
4

Actually you do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:19 AM
2

lmfao, you sound insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:12 AM
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exhibit A
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:51 PM
4

yoga class is a good one! If i was single and met a guy there i’d probably be really into the fact that he does yoga lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:49 PM
5

not everyone wants to pump and dump or meaningless sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:48 PM
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Depends on the kind of girl you want & what type of lifestyle you have. I’d say avoid tinder as you said - However, bumble and hinge are better for relationships i’ve noticed. Especially bumble since it’s the girl that talks to you first. I’m introverted as well, and i only had a bumble account, you can also select if you want a relationship or just something casual so the girls will know what your intentions are when they swipe. Otherwise, through friends, work, school. I met my boyfriend at a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:45 PM
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yes, i was less attractive when i was young and so noticed a big difference once my looks got better. The “halo effect” is indeed real, my negative traits, like social anxiety & shyness are now seen as me being reserved, down to earth etc... I don’t have to do much (i think) for people to have positive opinions on me. More compliments of course. I’d say it’s easy to be friends with other girls. Men will also be more friendly but a different purpose obviously. Store clerks are nicer, especially a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:32 PM
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My point is that women pursue hot men, not because of their personality but because they are hot essentially. Again, that’s obvious. When you say that hot men treat women better than average men you just give an excuse for women to convince themselves that they aren't as shallow as men. Again, i mentioned 100x fucking times that women ARE indeed being shallow as they perpetuate the halo effect. Do you read? You were implying that average men are lacking when it comes to people skill and you were…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:07 PM
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my ex was 5’10, i don’t think that’s short. Personally 5’7 or shorter is what i consider short since i’m 5’5.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 09:51 PM
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I disagree about what your comment implies in fact and how it absolves women while throwing average men under the bus. Just like the OP of this thread proves it. No it does not, because i clearly explained that women DO treat them better. They have more positive interactions with women. I simply believe that even if they knew how to behave around women, average men would keep struggling a lot. I also did not say average men don’t rejected more. That is a given. Average men aren't dumb guys who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 09:48 PM
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The thing is, i didn’t say it’s all about personality, in fact it’s quite the opposite. And being able to land more dates, allows you to know what women want, how they want to be treated, etc... So it’s not that they are inherently better than average men. They just know how to behave accordingly. But it’s all related to the halo effect like i repeated many times. Do you disagree with my last comment specifically? I don’t care for your opinion on all women. I got that already. But i provided a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:53 PM
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completely agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:43 PM
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No, you did not understand. I myself was below average during my teenage years, never got an ounce of attention by men until 19-20 when i became more attractive. And i can tell you that seeing the way people perceive you, receiving compliments, whether its from men or women, do have a direct impact on your own personality. I’ve always struggled with social anxiety for example, but it got considerably better once people perceived me as attractive, because of the halo effect. Because that shyness …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:14 PM
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Exactly, and even if people are seemingly perfect on the outside, they could still have body dysmorphia. This person doesn’t understand psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:55 PM
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Men here saying it’s the halo effect... but halo effect also has a huge tole on the person in the receiving end. Generally causing more confidence, good social skills, knowing what to say to people, in this case especially women. So the two theories correlate. That’s what she means by “social currency”, the hot guy probably doesn’t care much about rejection since he can rebound easily which causes them to interact with women a certain way. Both things aren’t mutually exclusive imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:36 PM
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why are you assuming women don’t get ghosted?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:27 PM
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all insecurities are in your own head.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:26 PM
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I’m not a fat woman, skinny, 23 and i’ve been called above average by most men i date & i’d say it’s true. Not because less attractive men are inherently not as friendly or nice deep down. But i think that halo effect also affects personality... So for an attractive guy, it’s much easier to build conversations, people skill, know what to say to women to make them feel good bc they go on more dates etc... It kind of all ties in together. I like analyzing people & this is what i’ve noticed. Also l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:13 PM
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You obviously didn’t get it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:03 PM
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me who say women don’t have personalities literally out themselves as men who lack female presence in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:00 PM
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Not really, it’s quite easy to tell when men treat you a certain way because of your looks or because they want sex. Perhaps it’s easier for men to asses because i’ve gone from not getting attention from guys (in teenagehood) to getting a lot of it once i became attractive in my late teens/early 20s. I know damn well my SMV is about how i am perceived in terms of sexual attractiveness. Anyone who doesn’t understand that is just delusional. Men pumping and dumping have little to do with that but …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:59 PM
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you can do further research on this phenomenon if you’d like. I was just clarifying the other person’s comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:52 PM
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that’s very true. I don’t care if a guy is skinny personally..but height is something most girls are attracted to without a doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:49 PM
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no they don’t, this is what you want to tell yourself so that it’s easier to categorize women that aren’t attracted to men like you. You sound bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:47 PM
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Don’t delude yourself into thinking having muscles will give you a relationship. Especially if you genuinely want something long term. It can help you land a few first dates more easily, but it won’t necessarily land you second or third dates if you don’t work on other parts of yourself. Look at couples on the street and asses if the only men in relationships are guys who lift, chances are you’ll see plenty who seemingly don’t lift. At 23, if you’ve struggled with dating your whole life, the gym…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:43 PM
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exactly, beautiful women are sweet, as sweet as anyone else can be. I think people just project their own ideas onto them very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:28 PM
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Well, yes, don’t pretend to be friends with someone while secretly expecting sex. Dishonesty is disliked by most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:21 PM
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I think they are trying to show that beautiful people do tend to have better personalities as well, hence why they scored high on bios even without their photos being shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:17 PM
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exactly, all of these are assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:15 PM
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what happens when her looks fade? Would you still want her to treat you that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:14 PM
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I think people tend just project false ideals onto beautiful women very easily. Either due to the halo effect, or the opposite if she is someone who might be introverted or more closed off during social interactions. It’s much easier for people to come to conclusions about their personal regardless of if it’s actually true or not. You have people here acting like being beautiful absolves you from ever experiencing other issues in life and that they don’t phase difficulties which, sure pretty pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:12 PM
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You keep telling yourself these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 08:27 PM
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Capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:54 PM
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Whatever dude, all those things you’ve accused me of, you did first. You’re simply frustrated someone played the same game.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:47 PM
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No, learn what that term means. You are not clairvoyant, you’re no different many others here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 07:31 PM
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Yes, based on general statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 06:46 PM
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You’re projecting, go back to your first comment and tell me who actually made scenarios. That’s all you’ve been doing. Like i said, self-reflection isn’t your thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 06:44 PM
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Well, that’s not the point, men aren’t doing those things. That’s the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:16 PM
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Well, both studies still reinforce my point anyway. Whether it’s 50 or 18 it’s still considerably lower for women and other methods are more effective. The article’s name & first paragraph reinforce everything i explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:16 PM
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Yes, i can say that because it clearly says they were asking Australians. And my study was based on American subjects. It’s not a prediction if the study is right in front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:22 PM
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No, having a specific issue and not vocalizing it to keep their worries alive meaning they will be thinking about you all the time. Anyway, OP already explained what he meant so i get what he was saying now. It’s not in a toxic way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:11 PM
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1) you basically said that when girls get harassed or abused by men somehow they did something stupid as if these things don’t happen randomly when we don’t bother anyone. I was 12 going to school & a man parked his car and masturbated in front of me while i was waiting for the schoolbus. Please break down how, in that scenario, i did something stupid? Other than waiting for the schoolbus as i did everyday? Your friend story is a total false equivalency and just shows you are not empathetic at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:00 PM
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well lesbians have very long sessions of sex. If a man wants to make sure his woman is pleased he’ll probably have to make her orgasm first by using different methods of stimulation & then get his fun since it’s a bit easier and quicker for him. A lot of guys don’t have the patience or are selfish in bed. Foreplay is key too but some guys are quite eager. That’s why it’s better for women to hook up with a guy when she knows he genuinely likes her, he’ll care more about her pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:48 PM
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well that’s a different conversation. OP didn’t mention vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:44 PM
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Not really, especially not cultures that come from 1st or 2nd generation immigrants who still have stronger values enforced. They won’t let you marry someone they don’t deem as “good” regardless, but it doesn’t mean they put you through that education for nothing. You can take time off while your kids are babies but it’s not common to be an actual stay at home wife. These people have crazy work ethic & the “immigrant” experience made them value that even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:43 PM
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Well i just said that your study didn’t apply to Americans, which is the main demographic in this sub. Provide articles that are accurate to the culture you speak of. And... my last line was a joke, get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:36 PM
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Someone else already linked that study and it’s australian. Perhaps australian men have better stroke game. Regardless though, the numbers are still significantly different for men and it still shows that other methods of stimulation provide more chances of orgasm & that straight women get the least orgasm of all. You just reinforced what i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:35 PM
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it’s about 18 % for American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 05:04 AM
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what do you mean? Like not constantly text each other & call multiple times a day? I can agree with that. That can be a sign of co-dependency which is never good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:13 AM
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you article also says “Compared with men, women are considerably less likely to have orgasms” You’re linking an article that literally explains why OP is wrong. And it also shows that other forms of stimulation provide more orgasm so when i said there’s more than PIV sex, i was correct. The numbers are still quite different than men. Also, your study is based on australians, this study is based on americans and shows reports of 18%. Perhaps Aussie men have a better stroke game.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:29 AM
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well, just spend a bit more time here and you’ll see it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:21 AM
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They would still want her to have something for herself and not depend on her husband entirely. These cultures still push marriage, but education comes first for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:20 AM
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This is facts. The only time i can really assess if what men say is true is if they carry these same values when raising daughters. If not - they are just giving self-serving advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:17 AM
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Single moms are literally shamed all the time... are you new here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:15 AM
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which survey?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:11 AM
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You want to, but you can’t really know for sure until you’ve actually been in bed with them. Because many can say things that they don’t actually to as well. I think the safest way to assess is to wait until you have a sense that the guy genuinely cares about you, most of the time he’ll want you to orgasm... But yes, many men don’t want to give oral or lack the patience to put any efforts. It’s not rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:09 AM
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Piv sex rarely lead to orgasm so no they aren’t that equipped, especially not with all the toys that exist today lol. The reality is that most men lack the patience to actually make a woman orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:06 AM
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i don’t know about that, i know heavy girls and their boyfriends make them orgasm & they definitely feel sexy and have great sex lives. As long as the man vocalizes that it’s not a problem then she won’t feel insecure... at least not around her boyfriend/sex partner
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:02 AM
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cause the journey is more than PIV and blowjobs... many men lack the patience to actually make the journey enjoyable for their women. if you do though, it is definitely worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:59 AM
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i mean, some men lack the patience to make their women orgasm... perhaps he is not that into her and using her as a hole. That’s also a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:55 AM
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as a woman, i’ve realized the same while reading this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:51 AM
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i mean considering straight women are the group that is the least likely to have an orgasm during sex... do they really benefit the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:49 AM
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Why? You think 18 year olds are thinking of a “family unit”? Let’s be realistic here. The most drastic changes in life happen from 18-30, meaning you will see drastic differences in numbers. 1-2% isn’t enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:30 AM
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So you’ll not speak when your angry, sad or mad bc you want to keep the “mystery” in the relationship? So that you stay in their head? Sounds kinda toxic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:19 AM
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The percentage is the 49% though, it’s not the majority but close to the middle ground. Those numbers are affected because many men in their 20s especially 18-25 do not want to settle down and also because women tend to date older men. We still see that by the time most men WANT to settle down, they are able since the numbers increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:13 AM
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Of course, victimhood is he currency they use to garner attention, validation, and acceptance. By this logic, isn’t everyone who vocalizes their issues victimizing themselves? Because it’s not like these things do not happen, it’s not a lie right. So by that logic, aren’t you doing the same? From your paragraph you are describing that you want acceptance and validation as well. That’s what most people want when vocalizing issues. I can understand where someone is coming from, and still disagree …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:31 AM
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But don’t women value RMV according to this sub? And how many men does that affect since 75% of men between 30-49 are in relationships and that is the prime age to start a family for men? Can you expand? Or are you speaking of issues in Divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:06 AM
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are we arguing BP or women? Do women who speak about their experiences intentionally do these things? I think it’s important to accurately name the demographic you’re speaking of. And can what do you mean by “simp” over them? Like where do you draw the line between understanding someone and simping? What actions are women expecting that are considered simping? You are making statements but you’re not providing context here. What is enforcing conformity? Is it bc you feel like they are requesting…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:53 PM
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But don’t OP’s narrative is flawed because it’s quite exaggerated. I’ve never seen a woman claiming being raped by 50 men. He is taking the fact that most women have unpleasant experiences with men as women shaming male sexuality when in reality the problem is that the men who do this often do it many women, and that is the reason why it happens so much or that women talk about these things a lot. His argument is lacking nuance here. That’s like when for example black people talk about racism an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 06:33 PM
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I’m don’t subscribe to any “pill” , i can see things in a nuanced way. I don’t even go on that sub at all. I’m not sure why you’re so defensive. I just struggle relating your comment to the post and asked questions. You’re doing a lot of projecting here, & mentioning things that have nothing to do with me. I’ve never insulted anyone by calling them an incel. If that’s your experience i’m sorry but people are able to have debates without insulting or demeaning others... Not everyone is out to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:56 PM
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Exactly. Where did i write any of this? I said “the same white girls most men chase” .. you’re the one that came to the conclusion that it means party girls, plain janes, etc. You’re confused buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:50 PM
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So i wrote the words “plain janes, nerdy girls, party girls, attractive women fit women”? What exactly did i edit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:46 PM
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What exactly is healthy for men? What is healthy for society? Can you expand on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:45 PM
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I think first, men here need to stop taking women’s experience as extremes and as accusations and see them for what they are. Every woman has not be raped 50 times and i’d love to see where you saw a woman making that statement. It just shows you’re not really listening nor care about women’s experience. Men that are perpetrators often have multiple victims which makes it that many women will experience these things. It’s like you’re not able to think in nuances when it comes to women’s experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 04:21 PM
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Lmfao, because the men here constantly talk about how unfair life is because women aren’t attracted to them while simultaneously ignoring the fact that they too do the same. The only difference is that men seem to completely forget that these women even exist. I’m not telling anyone to do anything, i’m telling people to look at their own selves before making judgments on the other gender... there’s a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:46 PM
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you literally typed words i never even wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:44 PM
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thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:52 PM
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lol no i didn’t say “attractive girls” if those are the only one you find attractive there’s your issue
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 04:37 AM
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think about my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:52 AM
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most intelligent comment here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:42 AM
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you’re talking as if these women told you they were indifferent to their husbands. People weren’t having arranged marriages indian style, they had to have some type of connection/attraction to get married. They just understood that marriage was more of a contract and that their personal feelings did not come first, or even second or third. They had a sense of duty. The love may change overtime but you made it work. Also - society highly shamed divorces which is one more thing. I’d argue that men…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:32 AM
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literally just stop idolizing the same white girls who get chased by most men and you’ll find girls who aren’t like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:21 AM
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Since your brain doesn’t fully develop until 25... i’d suggest most people not to marry before then, men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:20 AM
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I don’t think it’s that society is doing less, but nowadays we have things like social media which allow men - who fall into these categories to shut themselves out from the world very easily which just makes things worse. An unattractive man had to get out there in the world, meet people, socialize etc to find like minded individuals. Now you just open your phone which, whether we realize it or not, affects us greatly. Unfortunately, people get addicted to this and these communities (if they jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 12:32 AM
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So you’re agreeing with my point but you just want to keep speaking about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 11:54 PM
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Women of quality get men of quality. Perhaps that’s not my experience because i value certain things and can see through people easily. A lot of people nowadays are just selfish in relationships, codependent & don’t know how to make relationships work because they’ve witnessed too many divorces. It fucked up a our generation in a way. It’s not solely because some “sluts” exist, promiscuity is nothing new. The only thing that is truly demeaning to women is how hyper sexualized women are in the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 08:43 PM
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It’s generally subjective, because even if we have ideals in society.. it changes overtime and across cultures & the general population is just influenced by that. I’d say certain physical traits are objectively attractive - the ones that relate to our primitive desires - for women, traits that show she is healthy and fertile. For men, traits that show he is strong & can pass on the best genes to offsprings. So as long as you are seemingly healthy (not excessively fat) & young, you could be an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:48 AM
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First you said that men are not consistent and now you are asking me how do I know men are aren't consistent? Pick one. I said men aren’t consistent when it comes to helping/caring about other men. Not asking women out... men are very consistent with that. There’s a different here between the two actions bud. Women make up roughly 52% of the voting population, they vote in stupid policies and programs that keep them dependent on the government because they don't want a man that's how it connects…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:40 AM
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The thing is... 1) These other parts of the world are also highly patriarchal meaning the men are enforcing certain behaviours & ideals... not women. Also, i’m not sure why you’re assuming some women don’t wait to have sex?! Values are values, if a guy just wants sex, he will most likely be honest & the girl will move on.. the right guy for her will wait until the girl is comfortable and are dating more seriously. Men that prioritize sex would would just be more pressured to lie or cheat to sati…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:26 AM
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You say women value commitment and i already addressed that part in my previous comment. I’ll just be repeating myself. And like i said... i provided a link that showed you most adult women are in relationships, so that is not an issue for women unless they are maybe fat or super below average. But i don’t recall men ever preferring fat/super below average women anyway... “sluts” didn’t change anything in that regards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 02:43 AM
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How do you know men aren’t doing this at a consistent basis? Are you on the receiving end of that attention? How would you really know? And women may compliment each other but it won’t change the fact that if a woman doesn’t get attention from men, or very little... she will do what she can to change that. We don’t want to fuck girls or be in relationships with them. And what laws need to be changed? What rights do men not have? I don’t get that part. What would be effective would be for men in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:10 PM
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what does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:05 PM
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I mean if you think sluts are only pornstars then you misunderstood my point. Slut is usually referred to a woman who is promiscuous... you don’t have to be a pornstar/sex worker to be promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:04 PM
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they aren’t just simps though 😂 they are guys you work with, go to college with, match with, etc... I mean, simp to me is the highest level of desperation. But even average men are doing what i explained in my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:02 PM
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How so? Do you have examples? And i know some women will slut shame, that’s a given, no group that consists of millions share the exact same ideals... but generally, women vouch against slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:59 PM
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I’m an average woman... and if i make a tinder profile tomorrow i know i’ll have a bunch of matches & guys messaging me through other socials wanting to give me attention. If i wanted to find men to support my lifestyle in some way, i would. I may still need a job, but it can provide me with a few extra things i want. Like i said... men’s sex drive makes that market extremely large. Most girls like me don’t don’t do it because it doesn’t align with our morals. But the point still stands. And no,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:56 PM
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well exactly...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:41 PM
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Are men already doing this as a whole? If so why are there still thousands of men begging to take women on dates through DM’s even after being ignored? Why is only fans so popular? Why are “ig baddies” able to live high class lifestyle? Men aren’t consistent. Like i said, for every man that criticize a girl, a bunch of others will tell her what she wants to hear. They say women have big egos but keep feeding the ego. People get cocky because they receive too much praise. FDS isn’t really that po…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 01:56 AM
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As a woman, i can say that most generally are completely fine with taking on the “motherly” roles. Career oriented women won’t necessarily be stay at home moms, but most have to reduce their workload in order to prioritize children. Which completely makes sense considering your child has to be breastfed and depends on the mother heavily for the first 6 months of life. I think SAHD are definitely more common than before, but i was never under the impression that this is something most men actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 01:46 AM
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But generally, meaning as a majority, do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 01:01 AM
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How is the supply decreasing when simps are everywhere, IG baddies are able to afford a lifestyle through these simps, and things like only fans only get more and more popular by the minute? Men’s high sex drive makes that market extremely large & the demand isn’t decreasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:49 AM
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what narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:37 AM
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Well ok... my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:33 AM
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I don’t think those kinks make anyone losers, but the rise of those types of kinks should definitely be analyzed more deeply. Girls watch porn as well, maybe not as often, but they learn about sex through that as well which causes them to want to replicate what they see. Sex and psychology are closely related and people seem to forget that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:20 AM
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thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:15 AM
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Well you’re saying that because you look down on “sluts”. Girls don’t look down on each other for being sexually promiscuous, just like men generally don’t look down on other men that are promiscuous... they simply let them do what they want. Plus marriage isn’t that valued by society anymore so that’s not super motivating factor to most anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 12:10 AM
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Do men generally want to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 10:54 PM
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Okay, you think surveys on happiness are useless ... that’s your view on things. But analyzing them isn’t worthless, especially considering that relationships/intimacy generally provide human beings with a level of satisfaction in life - that is a known fact - and also the fact that men tend to remarry more often than women despite having more to loose in the event that it ends. Certainly, they deem it beneficial in some way and it provides some satisfaction. These behaviours happen for a reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 07:23 PM
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fixed it , thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 06:50 PM
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The REAL reason why "most" women not all but "most" women are "thriving" in the west is because the west is built upon a traditional framework that in a nutshell prioritizes the protection and well being of women. This is where simping comes in to place, nobody is born a simp its taught. This is why men are heavily blaming women, if you can not see the connection I will explain. It’s not that i don’t see the connection. Or that i even disagree. But realistically speaking, if men are unhappy with…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 06:47 PM
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Completely agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 05:27 PM
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First study wasn’t specific to men, just married people. Part of these findings also result in women generally being happier single, even in later stages of their lives. And the second study was based on Ireland, a small country, very different culturally than north America. Ideals change easily from cultures to cultures. The studies i’ve found aren’t any less valid and certainly don’t mean my point isn’t true. And i never said i know what makes men happy lol. Again, i answered a question with i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 05:23 PM
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Men don’t realize how much holding each other accountable would help their causes. A product is only valuable if there is a demand on it. The reason women are seemingly able to “thrive” (in their opinion) is because women will call each other out. “Don’t be a pick me and stick for other women.” Men are heavily focused on blaming women. I’m not saying women are innocent... But what group, in history, willingly gave up privileges they had just bc of a few complaints? Usually there has to be a shif…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 05:09 PM
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The topic is about what benefit comes after marriage for men. Please think. If you disagree that’s fine, but at least understand the question asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:42 PM
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im not against "marriage for men" - im against seeing a relationship as something magical that will turn your life into a happy wonderland.. for men and women. I didn’t do that. You took it as that. nothing wrong with wanting a good relationship - but a happy person will live a good life - regardless of married or not. I never said otherwise. I simply looked at studies & statistics and answered the question on what differences are generally seen between two groups. Your personal feelings just to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:11 PM
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Exhibit A
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:01 PM
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Did i say it was a cure? You’re just creating narratives at this point. I get that you probably are against marriage for men, it’s totally fine. And in today’s age, men shouldn’t idolize marriage for many reasons. But there was a specific question asked and i answered. Like you said, there is a correlation, so im not lying. It’s a general statement, people can do whatever makes them happy and don’t have to follow a specific path of life to do that. I don’t even care for marriage myself. Like i s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:00 PM
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It’s not dishonest, the studies about what benefits married men have are there. They exist. I did not make anything up. Like i said, if you have other scenarios or data you can provide them & answer OP yourself. And i am not especially concerned, this is a forum... where people exchange information and when questions are asked, people respond. Duh. There was no flair that mentioned only men could answer as far as i know. And i don’t have an agenda, you just spend too much time on here and it’s c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:55 PM
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But why are you bringing up every scenario in the book to prove your point? We all know general statistics can’t apply to everyone. But saying that there is no correlation between happiness/satisfaction and loneliness (relationship/family wise) is just foolish. There is. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:37 PM
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Yup, and that’s why i said people are selfish & actual “love” is almost never present in current relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:28 PM
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Why are you all so concerned by other people saying there are benefits to marriage for men? My answer may not be in accordance with your personal sentiments on marriage but the data is there nonetheless. A question was asked and i provided points. I never claimed all married men are happy or that men should marry in order to be healthy and all those things. Get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:25 PM
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But generally speaking, who would have more satisfaction in life? Someone who is alone with no family? Or someone who has a spouse to experience retirement with and children? I’m not saying every single person in Todd’s shoes will be miserable, but considering the fact that human beings are social animals who want people we love around us. It’s just logic. A person who doesn’t have anyone is MORE LIKELY to have less satisfaction in life. I can’t believe it’s that hard to grasp. It’s a hypothetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:41 PM
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That is in the case of a divorce. We are speaking of people who want to get married, women specifically & why they make that decision. I answered. I can definitely agree that divorce carried a lot of risks for men but that wasn’t the question asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 06:02 AM
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I mean yes, in the case of a divorce, but married men also tend to earn more statistically speaking - we’re not speaking of men’s perspective here, but women - why they make such decisions. I never claimed divorce wasn’t highly unfavourable for men, it is ... but people marry each other because they think they will be together forever as corny as it sounds. So the women & men making those decisions are most likely thinking of long term benefits. Most women want children, and those who have more …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 05:58 AM
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Perhaps it can, but that’s the effect of living in a capitalist society. But yeah, it definitely makes your dating pool smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 05:49 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 05:48 AM
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well that’s where the problem lies, men complain about these types of girls but can’t help but prefer them and want them in a way. You can find some that aren’t like that though, might be a little harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:24 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:19 AM
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true, men don’t want to do these things typically so i don’t see how a woman wanting someone who make an equal income at minimum is “wrong”. It’s a logical and safe choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:18 AM
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Sure, if the income applies why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:16 AM
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🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:34 AM
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The question OP asked were what benefits marriage offer for men. I answered with proof to back my claims up. If you don’t find it beneficial, that’s your personal opinion. I was simply answering the question and providing points.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:30 AM
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It’s not just about supporting themselves, with marriage comes a great deal of expenses. If she’s highly educated, she most likely has a lot of debt, she also most likely has higher car payments, mortgage payments, etc. Marriage binds all of your debt and expenses together on top of having the financial burden of children. Considering how many divorces finances cause, the logical choice would be someone who is at least making just as much as you are. I also think it’s perfectly find for men to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:28 AM
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“Bad boys” are appealing to little girls that are still immature, most women past 25 aren’t into that. Unless they are mentally stuck in their teenage years or have some sort of trauma that makes them subconsciously crave toxic relationships. Any adult women who’s mentally healthy won’t deal with that BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:21 AM
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Because as a woman her salary is most often going to decrease after the marriage, pregnancy, maternity leave, less hours due to childcare obligations etc. These things are still expected, no matter how “woke” or progressive our society might be. If she wants to keep the lifestyle she was able to attain, and have less financial stress (a huge cause of divorce) then realistically she should marry someone who’s at least earning as much as she is or more. Mortgages need to be paid, student loans, al…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:14 AM
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These men came from wealth but were not billionaires when they got with their spouses. Especially Bezos, it’s known that his wife helped him a lot when starting his business. And besides, this isn’t just applicable to the 1% , these things are statistically proven. Not sure what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:05 AM
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They were still married when they acquired their wealth. And for the rest of the population, statistics speak for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:34 AM
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I never said you’ve forced me to do anything, just that what you’re saying is irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:33 AM
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Are you wearing to be more attractive or because it’s more comfortable or something? I dont think most women would be aroused by that but i have seen men wear those. Either as a joke or for tanning (lol). As long as you’re confident in yourself, doesn’t really matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:38 AM
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The post is about people that remain married & the benefits of those relationships. Not before that or in the event of divorce. Your points are just completely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:34 AM
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Married men are healthier during old age because they have a spouse that loves them and will cook what’s good for them, encourage them to remain active, etc. Let’s not start acting like loving relationships aren’t highly beneficial to human in many ways. Old men are more likely to re-marry, even after harsh divorces, for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:23 AM
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No, you’re very emotional. Your lack of comprehension shows it. You’re bringing up irrelevant points as an attempt to one up me and it’s laughable. You want to feel like you “won” the argument but the statistics of married men remains. I was simply answering OP’s question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:16 AM
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Listen, my point still stands and there are many studies that back up what i say. Married men earn more, they live longer, and are healthier. Grey divorces are irrelevant, i never claimed old people don’t get divorced. I’m strictly speaking about people who remain married. What seems like a waste to you is irrelevant to the statistics of married men that exists. I don’t know why you’re so emotional about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:08 AM
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That’s exactly it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:02 AM
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I've known women to complain about random guys sliding into their DM's and label them as creeps. I've also known these same women to hook up with random guys who have slid into their DM's in the same manner. Is sending a DM saying "hey" inherintly creepy? Depends who you ask, but what's clear is the creepiness factor for a lot of women is decided on whether the guy has a good looking face or not. As a woman i can tell you that creepy men don’t just say “hey” , most of the time they constantly se…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:01 AM
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It still goes both ways though. I never said women initiate divorce less, these statistics are talked about in this thread almost daily. And i’m not saying it’s a good thing for women to do are that it makes them better than men. The article you posted did great at breaking down why exactly this happens, good thing divorce rates are lowering. It won’t change the fact that treating your wife as an incubator and caretaker will also destructive to a marriage. Making such plans (like the original co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:57 PM
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No, you’re not grasping my point. Salary/wealth increases with age regardless. It just increases EVEN MORE when you are married. Take your time while reading in order to understand. Let me give you an example: Robert and Todd are both 25, software engineers, new to their careers, are earning the same salary and work for the same company. They are both healthy and are making a 6 figure income. Both are attractive and successful in dating. When they turn 30 Rob gets married to his girlfriend while…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:46 PM
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yup, this is one study that explains it & uses cancer as an example. Men are 6x more likely to leave their sick wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:25 PM
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Well yes, men that are financially stable and healthy are indeed more appealing to women. That’s nothing new & that’s not what the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:21 PM
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Sure, and let’s see if that woman gets sick how long her husband will stay and play caretaker to her. These things go both ways. The real problem nowadays is that people are more concerned with their selfish needs and then wonder why their relationships fail. If you treat your woman as an incubator and a caretaker, watch how far that gets you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 10:49 PM
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Not really, these effects come after marriage. We are speaking of the benefits that comes once someone is married, not what makes a single man more desirable. There’s a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 10:45 PM
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right?! Like literally the woman is an incubator & a caretaker, other than that... no need for her to just enjoy life with her husband. I guess they don’t actually know what “love” really consists of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 10:32 PM
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Married men are generally happier and live longer. Being married is also really good to evolve socially as a man, look at all the presidents, CEOs, billionaires, they are married. There is a certain social status attained with marriage. They tend to earn more too. If anything, men need their spouse even more once their children are on their own. Nobody wants to die alone, especially not men. I’d suggest you research about benefits of marriage for men because this information is easily available.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 10:26 PM
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Well considering there’s still more than half of men between 18-29 can have relationships it’s a pretty good chunk. And being single in these ages for men also has a lot to do with choosing to be single. Many men in their early 20s aren’t especially concerned with LTRs. Not sure what your point is, i never once said below average men will all find love or relationships. Is that what you got from my comment to the other user?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 10:05 PM
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Attractiveness is based on facial symmetry. So how asymmetrical your face is, each features. i’m not speaking of any kind of medical condition.. My bad if that wasn’t clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 09:59 PM
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At the end of the day, if your typical woman is minding her own business and an ugly man starts speaking to her and he has excellent social skills, she will very likely to be creeped out because she is either ⁠not in the mood to speak to strangers ⁠never in the mood to speak to ugly men - it's a waste of her time as she would never be interested in them no matter how well they come across in conversation Not being in the mood for conversation or being annoyed doesn’t mean she thinks you’re creep…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 09:54 PM
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There’s about 59% of men 18-29 in relationships & over 30 it goes to 75%. (This of course makes sense since women tend to date older). All that to say most men can find relationships, can find women who are attracted to them. Of course, if you are super below average i can’t lie and say it’s easily attainable or at all. There’s still 25% of men that aren’t getting those relationships (over 30) , but still, it doesn’t represent the majority. Attractiveness is closely related to symmetrical featur…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 08:12 PM
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Yeah, i completely agree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:48 PM
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Nobody dates people they aren’t attracted to. That’s a pretty obvious point. I’d suggest you read my comments from top bc i’ll just repeat myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:42 PM
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ok... and it still fucking irrelevant to the post. You’re bringing up something, then saying it has nothing to do with the topic but continuing to argue it. You’re such a headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:14 PM
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why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:12 PM
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tinder isn’t worth it for most men... unless you’re a “Chad” it won’t work. That doesn’t mean you’ll be single or sexless your whole life just bc you’re 5’7.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:10 PM
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No... i never said that. I only said it has to do with why very attractive men are successful on OLD. Not that it only applies... just that there is a correlation. And that was AFTER, you brought that subject up in the first place. Comprehension skills are important when reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:06 PM
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I think you can make yourself be more attractive unless perhaps you also have some sort of facial deformity which deems you “ugly”. But if you’re a “normal” dude i’d suggest keeping yourself in shape, working on your style and especially hair/beard maintenance. And... wearing cologne is super attractive, coming from a woman. My ex was 5’8 but had all those things (plus ofc we got along well) which is why i found him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:04 PM
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How short are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:56 PM
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Plenty of men have approached me & weren’t creepy or intrusive at all. Men are just not that good a social cues compared to women. Men that are successful in these approaches are usually really socially intelligent and usually don’t take rejection personally. You’re creating your own narratives here. The most important things are contexts & social cues. And rule 1. Also being able to read body language helps. These techniques CAN work, although it usually takes a certain amount of “training” whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:56 PM
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No one said that. You’re creating your own narrative, making assumptions and bringing up irrelevant topics. If you have an issue with that then start your own thread like i said. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:43 PM
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you’re the one who brought up the halo effect, i didn’t. If you misunderstood my point then that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:20 PM
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This is the fallacy of assuming male sexuality is default and female sexuality is a broken version. Honestly this happens WAY too often on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:09 PM
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this is so true, hyper sexuality is actually a better indicator of someone who has sexual trauma and may need therapy. It’s not talked about enough imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:06 PM
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exactly!! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:01 PM
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Yup; that’s also a great point. A lot of men are self-serving when it comes to sex & it’s not that pleasurable to women. If you get to know the guy, chances are he’ll be more concerned with your pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:57 PM
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But this conversation is about OLD. You’re coming here with information that’s irrelevant to the original post. The halo effect is real, i definitely agree & it is present in both genders, maybe to different degree but present nonetheless. What you said is a real phenomenon, but that has nothing to do with the post above. Now if you want to stay on topic, we can talk about OLD. You can always make your own thread about the halo effect if you want to strictly talk about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:54 PM
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Not really, it’s more about effectively communicating your needs. But i realize how that could be perceived differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:24 PM
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No you clearly don’t get it. If you as a man are complaining about only getting physical touch through sex (like the commenter), meaning you want more. Then learn how to communicate that. It has nothing to do with sex drive, or male nature. It’s about learning how to effectively communicate your needs. You’re taking this out of the context of what the original comment was. You saw the word ‘vulnerable’ and ran with it because of your own idea of what vulnerable means. Being vulnerable in this co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:07 PM
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Ok then it seems you’re disagreeing with OP. Sex isn’t the only form of physical affection you get... Most likely because you’re good at making it known. Just like you did now. That’s my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:12 PM
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Halo effect is nothing new, that’s essentially why the top 20% of guys are so successful on OLD. But OLD doesn’t provide a grey area for men that aren’t in the top 20. If that was the case then only 20% of men would be sexually active or in relationships... When in reality most men are able to. Meaning women are sexually attracted to them & they are physically attractive to some degree, of course it depends on the person. OLD might not be the best way to gauge this... especially since most men r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:08 PM
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There are ways. Vulnerable is the only word you all focus on, it’s really funny. In the context of my comment, it just meant being open and honest. Not crying, not whining... because i know how that’s perceived. But lets say you have a girlfriend, then you have ways of communicating your needs without seeming “weak”. For example: “i really love when you do this” or even non-verbally. Men aren’t doing that.... at least the ones who only receive sex as a form of affection. Is it because they don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:02 PM
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Listen, the commenter said the only form of physical touch men get is from sex. I simply explained that either 1) Men aren’t making it known that they value other types of affection & aren’t being fully honest with themselves and others OR 2) They do not care for other types of affection. I’m calling him out saying that the is the only form of affection because men make it known that that’s the only form of affection they want. If you’re saying you want one thing, why complain that it’s the only…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:53 PM
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ok then, if the only form of physical touch you like is from sex with women then there’s nothing to complain about when it comes to the original comment i replied to. That’s the only thing you’re getting because that’s the only thing you care about. That’s exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:44 PM
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that’s what im saying lol... but i guess he got quiet so that’s an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:25 AM
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Like i said, you’re clearly reading but not wanting to comprehend. I never said men have to vulnerable towards/around women. Y’all are just going keep digging into the same hole forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:24 AM
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Women get horny is my point. It has nothing to do with one’s worth. It’s just a primal instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 04:58 AM
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which is like... most people in here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 04:53 AM
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Girls literally fall asleep by thinking of getting railed by the guy they like. That’s a thing. Women just aren’t open about these things because men are very quick to put a negative label on a woman who speaks that way publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 04:48 AM
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Being vulnerable doesn’t mean weeping in the street. See this just shows how much you’re out of touch with what that is in the first place. Being vulnerable isn’t what is going to get you women, that’s why my phrase ended with ”towards each other” , i was pointing at men themselves. It is simply a starting point in which men can be more open and honest with each other about the fact that only expecting affection from sex isn’t healthy to them, only valuing sex as the only proper form of affectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 04:46 AM
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women aren’t relatively asexual?! Lol... what
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 04:10 AM
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Big part of that is men’s own inability to be vulnerable or even refusing to be more empathetic towards each other. The idea of masculinity they want to uphold. Masculinity is great, but if it becomes harmful to so many men’s mental health... Why keep the same outdated ideas? So many men here are lonely because they genuinely only value any type of relationship with women - they do only if sex is involved, they don’t really like women, they like sex. They value that, only that. So if that’s the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 04:02 AM
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that’s just what you want to tell yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:54 AM
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explain how it is simple as it pertains to OP’s post then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:29 AM
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OP did not specify that his target group were people under 30, plenty of men over 30 use OLD or have used it in the past. Also, you don’t know that men who are currently under 30 will be drastically more single. So single that it would drop from 75% to under 50%. Keep in mind that, when looking at these stats, that a lot of women date older men, and currently close to 49% of men between 18-29 have relationships. Which still means a good chunk of average dudes are able to find girls despite being…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:26 AM
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definition of complex: consisting of many different and connected parts Yes, it is complex as it is quite different for both men and women. Especially more complex than OP’s trying to make it seem. We wouldn’t have all these forums and conversations about SMV/sex if it was all that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:11 AM
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Women and men don’t experience sexuality the same. It ain’t a meme. Men on here say it themselves... next.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:00 AM
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Not true at all, sexual attraction is the most influenced by physical attraction, they're so integrated that they're both essentially the same thing. Like i said, most men don’t take good photos and don’t know how to market themselves on these apps. It doesn’t mean they aren’t sexually/physically attractive. And i also said it had to do with the top 20%, it can only really tell you if you are a “Chad” or not. An average guy who’s in decent shape is far more sexually/physically desirable than a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:53 AM
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Women are like walls and when life gives you a wall you break the wall down. Questionable comment. Also a good idea to always push for sex quickly with women because you'll know whether she's just a prudish bore or unattracted to you very quickly. That’s an extreme. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. Personally, a guy being too quick pressuring sex is a turn off, it can come off as desperate. A woman not having sex with you right away doesn’t mean you are unattractive to her, it may just be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:41 AM
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that’s more so because they are afraid of coming off a certain way due to societal standards... but if a girl likes a guy, she’s usually telling her friends how excited she is to have sex. Perhaps the best thing is to be less judgmental of women being highly sexual - even though we’ve come a long way, it’s still a thing. (Not specifying you, just society in general)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:34 AM
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I think this is good for the first time for sure, past that it doesn’t really matter. If you want sex, just initiate or say it. But i do respect guys who don’t pressure sex, it’s more attractive cause it shows he ain’t desperate & also considers what i want. Plus, i’ve heard men say that if they really like a girl, they won’t ask for sex first so it also makes me think “oh he probably genuinely likes me”. However, for kissing or other stuff that’s totally fine, you have to make the woman feel wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:29 AM
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for sure. Swipe apps get old so fast. As a woman, i’ve done this too when bored with friends... it’s almost like a game lol! I don’t think it’s healthy for men to solely rely on that to ask themselves if they are attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:17 AM
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exactly, they seem to be equating male and female sexuality when there are many differences. Men are highly visual so that explanation makes sense to them, but as a woman, i 100% see the flaw in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:14 AM
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Considering only the top 20% get successful rates or swipes. No it’s not. Because the top 20 equates men that are 8/10s or above. A 7 and a 2 may get very little matches, yet they are not in the same league. Which might cause the cute guys, that are average to think they are ugly. When in reality, OLD is just really shallow and doesn’t acknowledge that sexuality is more complex. Also this idea that in order to date you have to be sexually attractive (im guessing you mean objectively not subjecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:06 AM
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It works for men who want insecure women . As a woman i’ve experienced this & it never worked, i’ll just leave the situation or give the guy the taste of his own medicine. Most of the time they apologize or want to act like nothing happened, even chase you - but mind games like that just shows me that he’s clearly not secure in himself enough or super manipulative. Both are red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 10:22 PM
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i’m 24 and rather date a guy who’s a virgin than one who has paid for sex just to lose it. I think that really depends on the girl. Just like some guys don’t care if a girl has had a lot of partners, or some that do. I think if the connection is sincere, the girl won’t be turned off. So many guys aren’t virgins but are shit in bed... A virgin is probably going to care way more about performance so it’s not a dealbreaker to me. I know not all women are like this, but i’m sure whoever you end up w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 09:39 PM
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A lot of guys think going to the gym or going closer to what’s considered mainstream in terms of male beauty standards makes them more attractive when in reality it’s not. If it has happened plenty of times like you said, clearly, you aren’t that much attractive than these other men. You may lift for example, but have no sense of style, or maybe you need to work on your game/personality. The people telling you about women having no standards are lying, women always will go for who they consider …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:36 PM
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not really, the other guy may just have other qualities he doesn’t have. Also, looks are subjective, unless we see a pic, we can’t know for sure if the other guy truly is “ugly” or it’s just OP’s opinion. Especially if it happens “plenty of times” like he said... there’s most likely a deeper reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:33 PM
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Well, men leave their women who are physically sick/ill way more often. I think it all boils down to what men & women value. A man has to be “mentally strong” and the woman has to have the physical qualities required to keep her man satisfied. Also, i think men are less likely to actually get help for those things which doesn’t help. Probably causes deeper issues within the relationship because of that. How someone deals with depression is a huge thing too. I think in your case though, the death…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:57 PM
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honestly, just spend less time on here. It’s full of men who criticize women over 25+ to make themselves feel better. Because they can’t attract who they want. Your life isn’t over by 30, women are still successful in dating & are desired by men. This sub isn’t reality. Only a small demographic of people are on here, remember that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:43 PM
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