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Don't let her mood affect your emotional state. Basically "hold frame" Have a plan you've already made Never ask open ended questions about what she wants to do. Don't share the details of the plan. Tell as little as possible Execute the plan. Move first, then (maybe) tell her what you're doing. Often she's not interested in how or what and will just follow you. At various points give her a small number of options that do not affect the plan no matter which she "chooses" Don't ask her to choose …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 09:23 AM
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This sounds like a troll, yet I believe you. Hard to compute this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 07:23 AM
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Its not that rare. Its just hard to find since guys like that are not seen in the wild. Only at home. Maintaining that relationship will be rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 06:50 AM
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passiveness as your response to advance or an enthusiastic response Do you hear how ridiculous that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 11:22 PM
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Kino involves push pull and repeatedly testing boundaries. A non verbal "no" does not mean stop escalating, just to pause for a bit. It tests for "consent". But does not look for "enthusiastic consent". Only the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 08:55 PM
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Reddit did a pretty good job of destroying the sub. Doxxing the founder and chief mod will tend to do that. I think they're trying similar tactics against mgtow now. There have been some reports of the same things being tried against that sub. I think that destroying it was a bad idea from the anti-rp sjws. RP was never about the sub itself or even the concept. It was about the set of ideas that required red pilling to believe. By destryoing the sub they just created a thousand hydras and lost a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 07:50 AM
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But where does the wealth come from? In ancient Rome the empire supplied the wealth, but only for one city. Today technology provides it for the entire west.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 07:46 AM
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Lol, that's not proof. Its a line of evidence. And a weak one too since the difference is small that could easily be explained by other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 01:16 AM
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The numbers are not much different between them. While the unhappiness numbers overall are drastically different no one set of stats have a much stronger narrative. But I'm actually asking for alternative explainations. OP does not have one. I don't think you do. So I'm still waiting for an alternative explaination of why women are unhappy today. Does not mean the obvious explaination that working mostly just sucks is right, but the absence of an alternative for such a drastic change does lend i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 12:55 AM
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They asked for them. The patriarchy willingly granted that request. Women think fighting in parading up atd down the street until someone gives you what you want. Read the history of unionism. They had to literally fight. Organisers were killed, frequently. Strikers were massacred. Strikes involved incredible sacrifice. Maty were imprisoned The women's rights movement was a tea party compared to what the unions and the civil rights movement had to go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 10:49 PM
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I don't beleive that. And I don't believe you would willingly split custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 10:43 PM
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The judge should give him primary custody. She lacks the income to be a mother, yet decided to be one. She's has a baby from a man that did not want one with her against his will. She is unable to make life decisions intelligently. The father could provide a better quality of life since he makes more money and is more mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 10:42 PM
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Its not up to you whether you stay togethet. Its up to her. She's just a gf no breaking up with yeu weuld be easy. Then she gets your kid,and gets paid. And you have to explain to every date you meet that you have have a kid, and she'll know that X percent of your income belongs to your ex, and if she wants a serieus relationstip with you she only gets what is left over.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 10:36 PM
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You can't unionise women. Its why employers were no keen to get women into the workforce. Its why they're so keen to push women into tech. Women won't collectively, or even individually much of the time fight for their interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 10:21 PM
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Where is there not causation? The correlation is quite strong so its a reasonable supposition. Especially when yeu have men's happiness relativety unchanged during the same period. There is not proof either way but if you disagree with it I'd love to know your alternative ideas. I don't think I've ever even seen anyone propose something different to "for most people working sucks no staying home and having someone else take care of the bills is a happier way to live". Its not wildly unlikely pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 10:16 PM
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You should edit your link to https://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/8hq3mp/my_girlfriend_hates_men_more_and_more_with_each/ The np wil prevent any accidental brigading of the other nub
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 09:34 PM
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If her first question is what kind of job you have Men would almost never date if they excluded women like this. Its almost universal for women to seek this information on or before the first date. Only a very small percent of men are attractive to women regardless of their job. You have to tell her your job or you won't even get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 05:33 AM
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They don't select for intelligence directly. But they do select for the winners of intra male competition. Which usually requires intelligence. Hence they do select for it indirectly, provided corresponding arena's of male competition exist. In the abscence of those (like we have today) they revert back to basic masculinitysignalling (height, size, alphaness etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 03:47 AM
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Yep. Women have to balance better genes vs a better standard of living. Lower class women often choose the genes since the men available to them cannot provide enough income to increase their standard of living very much. Middle class women have their security taken care of by the state (worst case they live in social housing. No risk of being homeless). So they can swing for higher quality genes from a man they may not be able to keep. And they also have their resource security provided by the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 03:34 AM
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Social housing is part of the welfare state. Its common in Europe. Single mothers in a welfare state often get improved housing the more kids they have depending on the country. Universal basic income without social housing won't work. The landlords would just raise their rents and take it all. Once a welfare state is established it needs to spread beyond income or the money just ends up in the hands of the wealthy in the form of higher prices for necessities (health, energy, housing).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 02:47 AM
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Onre women have their material and security needs met they optimise mate selection for gene quality (as they measure it). Height, social status, previous healthy kids. Everything TRP says women value in alpha partners. In Norway secrity and basic needs are all provided by the state. They have the golden mix of egalitarian social welfare state + natural resource wealth to fund it comfortably. Once the machines taking over everyone's job states will not have to rely on natural resource wealth to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 02:29 AM
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Its not a spelling issue Irregardless Usage guide: Is irregardless a word? Irregardless was popularized in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its increasingly widespread spoken use called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not rise…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 08:26 PM
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There seem to be a lot of aspects that the difference homoeroticism gives a unique space to explore. And that lets it get a little emotionally kinky.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 12:50 PM
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Thank you. That's a lot of insightful answers. Would you say you generally do not identify with any of the characters in a slashfic? Is that different to other erotic fanfics?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 12:21 PM
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It just has something about it that feels like its quite different. Hard to explain what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 11:43 AM
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irregardless god that word hurts to read
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 08:35 AM
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If long term interest in what these women are after they can open their mouths and ask him. Not organise a committe amongst her friends to validate her belief that going on a vacation together is the super secret code that he is going to marry her. Her expectations are her responsibility. And that includes going out and getting the information to set them correctly. She's a 2018 adult western women. Not a child in the hands of a gualdinan. Open mouth. Speak words. To him. Ask. Get answer. Be adu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 05:58 AM
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Just a note for you. Most of the women and blue pills on here are not going to believe your post is real. So you might get surprisingly little engagement from this community. Best case is likely they will tryand blame you the behaviourof the women you're talking about, even to the point of being absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 05:44 AM
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That must be exhausting. And I guess you trust your boyfriend enormously. I've noticed that hamstering seems to correlate with feeling insecure. If you feel certain and confident where you are socially is a good place then the need for it is greatly reduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 12:24 AM
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You'll have to be. That early male death is creates brutal competition for men in nursing homes. Those guys getting laid big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 10:44 PM
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I have literally never seen a women acknowledge hamstering IRL. I'm really curious what that would be like. You sound quite unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 10:42 PM
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You're seriously doubling down on sticking with your own preferred definition? Just pretending you were not called out on it? Oh come on. You don't want to pretend to be that stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 10:39 PM
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A swift death and not even forcing them to live through their public humiliation for all to see their minds broken? Your compassion disappoints me. I expected more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 10:21 PM
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Use https://old.reddit.com New reddit is useless. Waste of everyone's time to state their pill when its right there in every single comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:51 PM
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hardest thing to swallow AF/BB. Probably the most anti-blue pill part of TRP. When guys spend their whole life deicated to the idea of providing for a wife and family its really hard to believe we're not wired for that. AWALT. I'd seen any aspects of TRP in various women. But to realise there are no exceptions is really hard, and kind of deadening. The former breaks your world. The latter kills all hope. unable to currently swallow, Probably the last one was how universal the hamster is. There w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:47 PM
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Its part of being a women. There's a subconscious process that's constantly aware of male sexual interest. Its why less attractive women complain about being invisible and why older women fear the approach of their "last fuckable day".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:33 PM
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Its not rocket science to see which one he means and hence the context of the discussion. Women are often quick to point out terms like toxic masculinity are not being used correctly, yet here we are discussing the wrong definition of stoicism for op's post. There should be an effort to understand op rather than just bypassing what they say by selecting the definition you prefer to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:26 PM
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That's probaly obsolete now. You'll have to do something to move the independents to another flair color since black pill is a thing. It just misrepresents the independents as black pills when that's not what they are. And what does green mean then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:15 AM
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Stop participating in the discussion, except for minor points or the odd joke. Good modding and good discussion require different approaches, almost different personalities. Ensure the mod team was well aligned, and mod the mods. Subs get killed by one or two partisian, zealous mods that the other mods are too weak to kick off the team. To that end ensure the mod list always has a good mod at the top who is not afraid of policing the other mods. Reddits poor mod system which only allows the most…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:08 AM
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A women with BPD is unlikely to admit that. Its like narcissm in that sincerely acknowledging she has the condition is uncommon. If the man really knows anything about BPD he'd be unlikely to stay. But very few men really know what it is. If she's an HB8 and has BPD, and then she's going to be too attractive to say no to. Its just too addictive an experience being with a woman like that until you learn better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 11:40 AM
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I've seen pick up artists who went from shy nerd to pick up a girl in 30 minutes of entering the bar any time they feel like it. Its not unusual for pick up artists to make that nort of development. They're never going to tell you so how would you know? That's the blind spot. Just unable to believe its a learnable skill. If you see real red pill behaviour it just does non compute it ceuld hane been learnt. Applies to other masculine traits too. Also makes women into terrible parents for sons. Ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 06:49 AM
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Every single complaint I read from normal women about transwomen is almost exactly the same complaint men make about women. Almost word for word. Go back through your complaints and change them to a 4channer complaining about gamer girls and its almost exactly the same. Its convincing evidence that transwomen really are female brains in male bodies. Women complain about transwomen doing exactly the same shit men get fed up with women doing. Everything you're complaining about is exactly how men …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 04:15 AM
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Its a pretty big question since what is a transwomen really is is debatable. But based on what I have observed Trans women come in two types A dude who bought a pair of tits Women's brain (or at least highly female brain) in a guys body. The former are just men so nothing changes. The latter seem to be on a spectrum. Most/many are just women. But some seem to have a mix of male/female brains so the blind spot is often not there. But all transwomen in the latter group spent a lot of their life li…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 04:02 AM
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The part about it not working on them and only damaged women is a ploy Which is best acheived by believing that is true. Its not a lie if you believe it. The most useful thing to believe in that case is that it does not work, so that's what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 03:34 AM
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I did not say they're ugly. That's a different category. Indian guys have similar spectrum of attractiveness to other races. But being indian is usually low status in the eyes of most western women. It knocks about three points off a guys attractiveness unless he's able to overcome it. Similar thing is true for balck women. Both groups struggle in the dating market due to their race.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 03:28 AM
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If you ever wanted to understand what Red Pill means by "hamster" you just have to read through this thread. You don't often see so many examples in the same place along with the context to understand why its spins so fast. Also note something interesting. In PPD there are plenty of guys who disagree with TRP. Yet there are very few of them in this thread hamstering away what they read in the other thread. Its mostly only one gender spinning the wheel to find a way out of believing what they rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 03:06 AM
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No. Women hate men for a variety of reasons. But rather surprisingly learning about TRP is not usually one of them. Instead what happens is women always believe RP does not work on them. At best it works on damaged other women. Not themselves. Therefore only loser men who can't get a women are red pill. So upon learning about TRP women almost always come to believe only loser/autistic/ugly/indian guys are red pill. And they have no reason to hate them since guys like that don't matter. Those guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 02:42 AM
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If they were born women they'd also have the same built in blind spots other women do, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 02:06 AM
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“you seem to love extremely feminine women, why not just date a twink?” Because even the twinkiest of twinks is still way more masculine than most women. If I'm attracted to femininity then twinks are nowhere near feminine enough to interest me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 12:46 AM
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The butch women preference of some lesbians confuses me. I can see no reason why they would not just prefer a guy. I'd like to know what I am missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 12:42 AM
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They were shocked at the character it showed. But they (by and large) accepted the morality of it. Its why you're getting what appear to be inconsistent answers between the threads. You've asked about morality but that's a different thing. People usually have expectations of decent character from their SO. But there is no moral obligation in most of the situations in either that thread or your ones. But you're not seeing quality character either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 03:44 AM
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endurance of pain or hardship without a display of feelings and without complaint. Op's examples don't meet that definition either. Getting aggressive is a strong display of emotion. And also complaint. I believe that lots of men address negative emotions in a detrimental way in an attempt to seem stoic. Some examples would be getting aggressive when feeling insulted or insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 02:32 AM
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But women don't want to know that. The whole purpose of dating apps from a woman's point of view is to feel more attractive than she actually is due to the occasional Chad match (from a guy looking for an easy lay) They're going to go crazy on their facebook photos if they learn those pics feed into a dating app that limits their access to Chad if they're not hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 11:19 PM
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Its talking about things you don't think even exist. So of course it sounds like nothing to you. But perhaps you have some doubt which caused you to reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 10:07 PM
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Remove the period from after the number and your age will show correctly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 09:27 PM
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For men feeling love means a lot. From his partners point of view it is like a magical obligation. One that he'll happily enforce on himself. I guess its hard for women to understand it since they simply do not ever feel that particular emotion for a man. When men say "I love you" it means something completely different to what women mean when they say exactly the same word. For women it basically translates as "I need you, (and I trust you enough to admit that to you)." That's not even in the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 09:03 PM
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I see. That makes a lot of sense. Thank you for that honest reply. That must have been hard to go through. Have you found any non red pill support from women spaces that supported you in that? It seems doing it through the red pill is the long way round when a women oriented space might get there without all the baggage TRP comes with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 08:32 PM
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That's 90.4% survival rate after being wounded. Not a tour of Iraq. Its an article about military medicine and the effectiveness of combat treatment. 3,400 combat deaths + 34,000 casualties = 90.4% survival rate for being wounded in action
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 08:23 AM
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Your second link does not work
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 08:04 AM
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I am less satisfied with sex I'm curious how that came about from reading RP
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 06:57 AM
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What would female-centric porn look like? A bdsm gangbang. Those are the two categories of porn which women watch the most. The top selling novels aimed at women are bdsm. That's what female sexuality is. If you believe otherwise show me 100 million sales that back it up. The 8th top selling book of all time is bdsm porn aimed at women. Its ridiculous anyone is trying to deny this any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 05:05 AM
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I think it would help more if yeu explained where you're coming from. Happily being cucked is so unusual that you explainig why you are fine with it would be the more enlightening post. But I've also read plenty of stories about women who starting cucking their husbands eventually being disgusted by them. Even if the guy is happy beitg cucked, and the women is fine cucking him it does not mean they'll rontinue to happily be together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:41 AM
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Women have to face child birth. Its a dangerous thing that has always had a high mortality rate. Even today the chance of death in childbirth is similar to dying during a military tour of Iraq.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:35 AM
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I read a few TRP aware women who had reactions like yours.I have to admit it was very confusing. It read to me like men expecting basic human emotions from their partner was disgusting, which is a strange statement. But you obviously agree with the disgust part. Eventually I figured out that despite acknowledging men's different expectation of love, these TRP aware women still had no idea what men actually mean by the word "love". Since its an internal feeling that cannot be seen I guess that ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:26 AM
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If you understand what men mean by unconditional love and why they're disapointed to discover women don't do this it might un-ruin your sense of men. There's actually a huge amount of positive things for women to be gained from understanding men but its not easy to directly get it from TRP. You have to infer it from what their expectations pre red pill are/were, and then realise that they expect it because that's what they do, or used to do themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:53 AM
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Getting that knowledge early in life is the biggest advantage of TRP. Its much easier to keep a good ship on course and avoiid mistakes than it is to pick up the pieces and build from scratch. A lot of guys eventually figure much of this out, but after things have gone wrong when major, perhaps permanent damage is already done. That's a huge advantage the internet has brought.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:46 AM
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My expectations of women are a lot lower in most areas. In a couple of ways they are much higher. This applies to all women, not just romantic partners. In day to day life I've stopped treating women the same as men and have a completely different approach for them. I'm much more selective about who I associate with and try very hard to restrict that to men who have some level of red pill awareness. As a result, today problems and stress in my life from women (directly or indirectly) is almost n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:16 AM
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Some of them do it to maintain their status not just climb Its sometimes called the greasy pole for a reason. You have to keep climbing to not fall. That said they’re not evil guys in the slightest. I don't disagree with that. Although success in this approach to life does often encourage/require machiavellism. There's a reason psychopathy is common amongst ceo's. A lot of people get morally burnt out as they play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 10:20 PM
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From your other comments it seems your group of friends includes a lot of social climbers. There is a sub set of men for whom climbing the social ladder is their mission in life. Guys like your VC friend, but a lot of CEO types and politicians, investment manager (sales) etc. For these types of men signalling status to other men is extremely important to how they do their life's mission. When they meet a high status guy or they get to know of each other its extremely important to come across as …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 09:52 PM
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Women in their 20's are fin with a guy in his 30's. But they have a psychological barrier to a man over 40. Some are fine with that but most are not, at least unless the guy is wealthy or very good looking and fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 05:59 AM
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You shouldn't be listening to the TRP about what is going tommake you happy. You're a women so you should seek out the advice of othet women, just as TRP advises men to not listen to advice from women. That said there are real crunch pressures and bio timelines facing women who want to do what you're planning. You should find women who have lived through that and find out what they did, what worked, what they regret, what they would do differenty. And try to imagine if that will wotk for you. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 11:59 AM
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Kind of, but not really,. Women's respect for the man she is in a relationship with is a lot more judgemental. It tends to be fairly complete or non-existent. No in between. Also the man has to earn the woman's respect before the relationship will even start. If reaches a high enough level, then its possible for them to start being together. And once they're together if loses even a bit of respect he'll lose the rest very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 04:40 PM
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Based on the link with stats from CNN the calculation will be something more like 0.01 (0.01 2)... The correlation is not particularly strong so they're still fairly independent sets.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:33 PM
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Oh, so you agree that its actually relatively easy to be in the top 1% of guys since you don't need to be anywhere near the top 1% in each of the categories you noted? What are you arguing about then? If you understand the top 1% numbers you quote are irrelevant why did you even posted them? I assumed you did not understand the difference as there would be no reason to structure your argument with those numbers if you understoood the math. Did you have another reason for posting them since they …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 03:26 PM
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There are different levels of trust. The strength of the relationship can be measured in how much trust the women has earnt from the man. Less trust, or more trust, its still a relationship as long as some trust exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 02:57 PM
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Then this whole post seems a little weird. I get an incel complaining about how hard it is to be top 1%, but can't see a reason a women would care. I wonder what's motivating them to argue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:29 PM
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Yeah, I think they might be someone looking for an excuse not to try. I had exactly the same argument with a guy, (even referenced the same stats) on another comment thread, who then deleted his account.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:06 PM
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Perceivers are somewhat more likely to be men. I have never seen that mentioned anywhere. Do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:45 AM
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You can't do basic stats. Assuming those categories are independent then: Being top 1% in each of three different categories actually puts you in the top 0.0001% overall. You only need to be top 20% in each category to be in the top 1% overall. 20% × 20% × 20% = 0.8% I believe the data may indicate penis size is independent (if anyone has a study linking penis size and income I'm sure everyone would love to see it). We know height and income do correlate so its not quite so simple but the basic …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:19 AM
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You learn the hard way. Its more important that she respect you than anything else. You trust her. And she respects you. Then you have the basis of a real relationship. Without that you're just spending time with together, but not really in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 05:18 AM
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Its the biggest question about him and is unknowable from where we stand. It looks like he is not self aware, even to people who deal with him closely sometimes. But you have to keep in mind two things It can be in your interest to appear dumber than you are, even crazy sometimes. If yeu appear unreasonable then people will appease you because they berieve you cannot be reasoned with. Its a successful negotiating strategy. You can google Nixon and mandman theory for example. And no-one dinputen …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 12:09 AM
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one of your fellow men betrayed you and invited her Correct. That's why you avoid including blue pills if you want to something with just guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 08:24 PM
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Actually Arabs get laid easily in western countries. They are more naturally red pill than just about any western person. And they have no problem with western women being easy. Muslims, despite perecptions, are generally less bothered by western "degeneracy" than people realise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 09:42 PM
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A few hours a week of sports will not overcome the rest of the time being raised by women. The systemiser type boys usually do poorly in sports due to lack of coordination. There's an inverse relationship between being able to understand and put together an electronics kit and kicking a football.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 09:33 PM
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I work with men who won’t hesitate to say men and women are different, they just don’t pose it in a way as women are all the bad, lesser things. You can read James Damore's google memo (make sure you get the version that includes his citations) for an example of that. Guess what they aren’t crucified He was. Lost his job. Possibly his career. Crucified by all of the leaders of his industry and the national media. And keep in mind, he did not even publish it. It was just a discussion paper posted…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 08:44 PM
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How about you try demanding access to an exclusively female group or environment, and then let the feminsts tell you why its bad for you to be allowed into their space.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 08:26 PM
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Whenever I downplayed my RMV traits and emphasised I'm only interested in something casual it made girls want me more. And seemed to convince some of them they were on track to lock me down and/or led them to getting too emotionally involved. Catch 22. Be honest about keeping it casual, and they get strongly attached want something serious. Be honest about wanting a relationship, and suddenly they're unsure of things and don't return your texts. Other guys may have different experiences but most…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:16 AM
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SMV = sex RMV = marriage or LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:05 AM
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Yeah that reminds me of this https://www.google.com/search?q=women+sue+male+only+barber+shop
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 12:50 AM
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You have strange reading skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 12:40 AM
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Any group of men that has value will be relentlessly invaded by women. There is a reason one of the main targets of feminism is exclusive groups of men that have value. Its literally illegal for men to gender segregate because women want in to any male group that has the slightest bit of value. Even a group of eight D&D nerds will be invaded by a woman sooner or later if any of the guys make a bit of money. Gender segregation of men, is impossible in a feminist society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 12:27 AM
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You just want save both of you from wasting time with each other when she's not going to feel attracted to you for long. .. Its just would have been helpful to know this up front to save you both from a wasted relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 12:05 AM
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Then you assume she has something to hide and next her. You can't ever know for sure since she'll just lie about it anyway if she does not want to disclose it. But that does not matter if you never marry her, have kids with her or become too emotionally invested. You're only trying to get information to have an idea how she is going to feel in the future. Its not the fact she had her Chad's. Its that the Chad's set her expectations and will make it hard for her to feel happy being with you. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 11:52 PM
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It will be good for you. Might make you feel alone sometimes, but you'll be able to find a quality guy in a way few women know how to and that will more than make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 11:09 PM
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You're a very unusual woman. I've looked at your comments in this thread and you show a level of honesty of one women in a thousand. Extremely rare to see that, even on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 10:47 PM
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Purpose. A role that they do well, or can at least try to do well. Something that occupies their need to do something that matters. A guy can have purpose doing almost anything that he feels matters. He'd like to be respected for that but does not need to be, as long as he feels the work matters. There was a guy in India who cut a road through the side of the mountain by himself with just hand tools. His wife had died because she could not get to the nearest hospital fast enough so it motivated …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 10:32 PM
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You cannot contract how a person feels. It will always be necessary for the guy to manage the emotions of his gf so she feels attracted to him. The contract idea is interesting. I wonder if it could become a thing but I'm not really sure its possiible. It kind of happens in wealthy realtionships where lawyers add pre-nups to marriages that effectively reduce the value of the marriage, usually to the poorer partner. There are also "contracted" sugar relationships where they actually state to each…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 10:01 PM
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Its possible to have an honest relationship. Its also possible to trust a women. But bear in mind there are many different types and levels of trust and honesty. I trust my the shop keeper to give me back my change. I trust my work to pay me. That type of trust is directly related to expectations. There's a deeper level of trust which is more about a shared sense of self. A child will trust a parent. They don't have expectations, they just trust them. I have that level of trust with certain guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 09:47 PM
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-Make sure she knows you are an anomaly and you are the best man she will ever get and the best chance she as at improving her lifestyle. That does not mean putting her down and damaging her self esteem. It can be acheived that way, but that's not the only way to do it. If a guy chooses a woman who is self aware, realistic and honest with herself then he has "made sure she knows...". Its just he made sure by choosing an honest, self-aware women, and checking in on her expectations. Also going th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 09:04 PM
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Pre red pill, yes. Post red pill, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 08:39 PM
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It would be like keeping a running tally everytime I would take her out for dinner. "Oh, she's up 10$, better make sure I only go to burger king this week!" This is actually exactly how women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 08:31 PM
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Pretty much this. I'm over doing the whole boyfriend thing. It used to feel good helping out your partner and being there for them, but eventually you realise its a one way street and incredibly limiting on your life. You see how unhappy most of your friends in relationships are and realise its not really working for a lot of guys. I'm glad to be free of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 02:57 PM
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I don't think its just certain groups. I think its almost universal amongst elite power groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 09:58 PM
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Thank you wery much for that. I've heard various rumours for ages but assumed they were just outliers or exaggerated stories so I never dug into it much. These days I think I'm nowhere cynical enough and the reality is probably much worse than we realise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 09:47 PM
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I'll have to dig some up. But most of them are income adjusted. It would be almosh pointless doing the studies without it since poverty is such a common factor in single parent households.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:40 PM
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You're talking about other models besides nuclear family. I'm wondering if there are any examples so I can get an idea of what that looks like. I'm curious about alternative models so it would be interesting to see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:37 PM
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Link to the blog?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:19 PM
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The data is adjusted for powerty and still shows the same problems. I've talked to enough guys about how single motherhood affected them to get a pretty good idea of the patterns it creates. It easy to see how the problems they face have nothing to do with poverty but are directly a problem of being raised by a single mother. I just don’t see the point in shitting on single parents rather than giving them a hand up If poverty is not the cause of the problem then money won't help. It will just in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:13 PM
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Can you point to any existing or historicl societies that are examples of the kind of community you mean? There are places like that which I am aware of but none of them reject marriage and many are quite patriarchal, at least at first glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 08:07 PM
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I don't know why exactly, but you see it if you're in a long term relationship. But I speculate women can never go backwards in their standard of living. If they've experienced a nice hotel room, they won't be happy with a cheap one ever again. There's a ratchet effect. As they get older they are exposed to a wider variety of men in a larger set of social circumstances. And every man gets compared to the best men she meets. So a high school chick in happy with McDonalds and a guy with some prosp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 05:30 AM
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I agree with you about fooling being ridiculous, but I put it in there to give the benefit of the doubt to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 04:26 AM
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CDC means Centre for Disease Control, usually. Its a US government organisation and very well respected. Its about as credible as it gets. But he has not posted the link. I'd like to read it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 04:05 AM
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You should edit your post to make that clear. He has a good point that your understanding of black smp is unclear. But its also fundamental to your view so it makes everyone's position in this whole comment section much less cleare than it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 02:45 AM
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You have not taken into account financial disfunction which is also driving this. But the two do work together to produce the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 02:31 AM
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His stats say otherwise. Unless hypergamy or something else precludes 43% of black men from being good enough for marriage and children. That's a huge amount of unmarried, childless black men. What possible reason could they all be unmarriable for?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 02:26 AM
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Could you not spam the same comment replies. Address it to the source of the stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 02:20 AM
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with 73% of black women [Source - CDC]). Am I missing something? Its right there in the bit you're quoting from the CDC which I took from the above comment. I'll have to dig through the whole thing for the context to that number if it means something different to what it says
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 02:15 AM
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-27% of black men are producing children out of wedlock, with most men producing multiple children with 73% of black women [Source - CDC]). -43% of single, unmarried, or never-married black men have ZERO children, repeat - 43% of black men have NO CHILDREN. All other black men either produce children within marriage or NEVER produce children at all. So by my calculation if you take away the men with no children (43%) and the Tyrones (27%) then that leaves 30% as married provider type black men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 11:52 PM
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Thin is a pretty cood example of why feminism has reached the limits of what it can acheive and is actually becoming a negative force even in women's lives. So in the stem fields there's a push to hire more women. Traditional feminist ideology say everything in the fault of the patriarchy so the obvious solution is to change the behaviour of those in power (men). So you get campaigns to remove male bias and to get women extra places and support to hulp them overcome the male bias which is the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 08:30 PM
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I've never seen anything that indicates Radfems accept any form of gender innateness in behaviour. Most of what I have read indicates they believe gender behaviour is socialised. Radfems are often unhappy about transgenderism specifically because they don't belive a "female brain" is a thing. From what I understand both strands of feminism would disagree with what you are saying. I thought all forms of feminism do not accept gender behaviour as being biologically driven. But I'm not sure I under…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 08:08 PM
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Not be a man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 09:07 AM
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Political suicide to even hint at marriage reform. Women vote more than men. None (except the mothers of sons) care even an iota about marriage being unfair to men. Not one iota. They care a lot about getting everything they can out of marriage. Just saying out loud that men sometimes get a bad deal in family law can end a polticians career.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:00 AM
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Also their expectations rise as they get older. So husband may have seemed a bit alpha when they were young. But as she is exposed to more men and gets older he drops down the rankings a lot. Eventually she's middle aged and reading soft core porn about bdsm billionares. No real life guy will be good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:48 PM
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I don't think its a bad thitg. But a lot of women use men for free dinners and validation and nights out. Guys have few ways of knowing if a girl is actually interested in them or just using them. If a girl has sex with a guy then at least he knows he is not being completely used and the girl is (probably) attracted to him. A long time dating a girl with no action just leaves you open to being taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:16 AM
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A purple pill debate. Where its 90% I disagree with Red Pill. Its not true and morally wrong. 5% My personal preferences and experience show the Red Pill works on me. 5% I see no contradiction between 1 and 2 and anyway no-one should be judged for their preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:05 AM
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If its only a form of testing. For a lot of women its basically conducting job interviews. The other aspects of dating are not important to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 04:42 AM
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I see. It just seems odd that's she's a surgeon while comitg from that environment. That's an extraordinarily difficult field to climb up to and hard to understand what motivated her to get there with that background if she accepted all the bs you had to put up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 04:39 AM
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But if she is playing games they can be easily faked. Guys are jaded enough these days that they don't really believe that game much any more. Hence the quick nexting you see today
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:35 AM
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Something about your mother doesn't sound right. Was she competetive with you for attention? Perhaps without you realising it when you were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:13 AM
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Plenty of guys do. There's a lot of stories about very happy husbands and wives who had instant attraction and slept together first chance they got. Its often a green flag for them long term. If there is instant sexual chemistry, and a lack of inhibition and calculation in expressing that then its not surprising that a lifelong monogamous committment to only have sex with each other turns out well. Its actually a suprisingly common thing in happy marriages. How instantly their relationship start…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:56 PM
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Because if the guy is attractive enough she can't make him wait. He'll move on. The pleasure derives from building the tension to breaking point. Ie, he won't wait any longer and will stop chasing her. Being able to make a guy wait until that point is very validating, if its long enough and the guy is attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:07 PM
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Coz you broke the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:01 PM
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The tokens exchange model implies the sex is limited. And more can only be acheived with more tokens. Red Pill says once you become a certain way, the sex is not limited. You can open the tap and take as much as you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 10:01 PM
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No. Its something I have to work to acheive, but that does not mean getting it is a "reward". I used to feel it was a "reward" back when I was blue pill. Frankly its a pretty messed up way to think about it. It creates the nice guy / blue pill culture where if guys put in good behaviour tokens they get sex tokens in return. It implies female sexuality is subservient to her getting her other needs met. Which is a very transactional, almost sociopathic view of how women activate their feelings. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 09:23 PM
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Do you believe it now? Do you understand it now? Its not useful for them to understand or believe it. So no. Probably the hardest part of the pill to swallow for me was the idea that women don't use communication to understand things. Only to influence people for their own benefit. If understanding something does not benefit them, they don't. It really works like that. Its such an alien way of thinking its even harder to believe than the rest of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 10:12 AM
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In software development, you can either do it or you can't. You need the brain and desire that will spend four days digging through thousands of lines of code to find the single misplaced comma that made your webserver start slowing down. People who are on the spectrum are practically the only types who will do that. There are easier tasks in software development, but you can't just go giving those to less qualified and skilful women. You never know when one of those will turn out to be one of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 03:24 AM
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You implied it by referencing all the "hating on hypergamy" posts. Misogyny is hatred of women, so complaining about posts that hate women's behaviour implies you think they're misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 10:26 PM
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Just as I said. Like a women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 10:22 PM
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It is sexism. But its not misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 10:19 PM
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You argue like a Bluepill/women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 09:10 PM
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Try it. You'd be surprised. The brain does not really distinguish between the two so they feel the same. And sales in almost entirely about the salesperson, not the product. They are rejecting you. If it was just about the product there would be no need for sales people. You'd just list the product on a website.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:46 PM
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Sexism is not mysogyny or hatred of women. Sexism in the belief that someone is different and inferior in some ways ecause of their sex. Nothing about hating them or being angry at them. Mysogny (and mynandry) are hating women (or men). TRP is sexist. TRP is not mysoginist. But it does accept that men usually go through an anger (and hence mysoginist) phase on the way to accepting TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:29 PM
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“women’s nature is inherently bad/immoral/unfair/negative”. A guy can believe that and not hate women. Anger and hate comes from a sense of violation. That something a person strongly felt "should be" has been violated by someone else. In the case of SMP guys grow up expecting certain types of blue pill behaviour from women (and themnelves). When they see those "rules" don't apply, they get angry as most people do when they're on the receiving end of an important "misbehavior". But once those ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:23 PM
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She's correct. If you've worked in serious sales you'd understand.Anyone mho wants to learn pick up would do well to work in sales. The skillset and emotional strength required is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:04 PM
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T [??] is in meyers-briggs, it's the xNTx domain. Can you clarify that you mean Testosterone when in that sentence. I assume so, but its confusing to introduce Meyer-Briggs categories and then use the letter T to mean two different things in the same sentence. Assuming you mean Testosterone... All meyer-briggs dimenstions correlate strongly with Big 5 dimensions. They're essentially the same thing, but just looked at differently. Meyer-Briggs "T-F" dimension correlates strongly with Big Five "Ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 04:03 AM
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Then that's saying that E correlates to Big 5 Agreeableness. And T is a new dimension altogether. Which is new information. It would probably be better to explain this as an expansion and explaination of the big five rather than saying its a replacement model. If most of this models categories correlate with existing known dimensions of personality then there its not justified to call it a new model. A lot what they're saying is existing knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 03:34 AM
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Is there anything in this research that suggests more fundamental dimensions than the well studied Big Five (extroversion, openness, neuroticism, agreeableness and consrientiousness) ? Her model just seems like a subset of the already well studied dimensions. DOPAMINE: I find unpredictable situations exhilarating. - Big Five: High Openness SEROTONIN: People should behave according to established standards. - Big Five: High Consieusness TESTOSTERONE: I enjoy competitive conversations (obvious tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 01:00 AM
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I'm curious about the models estrogen/testosterone preferences. I've never seen anything in real life to suggest women prefer medium or low T men under any circumstances. Sometimes they're attracted to lower T men. But faced with the option of a higher T man of similar value they'll choose the high T man every time. Men do seem to have varied preferences for how much T women have. Some prefer extermely femitine, and a lot of guys basically want a guy's presonality in a woman's body. I just find …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 12:50 AM
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Have you got a suggestion for readings on sexual dimorphisim and mongamy/polygmamy comparison amongst different species? I agree with what you say. I've just been meaning to re-read up on it and I can't remember where I read it the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 09:12 PM
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Because they're just some random dude on the internet with all the authority of rando internet dude ie, only if what they say can be seperately verified. Every sub-group has jargon which uses the same words as other groups but gives it a different meaning. The TRP definition of hypergamy is different to the social science/official one. When using a word you must relate it to the context its being used to know which definition is appropriate. You can print out the dictionary definition on shirt a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 04:54 AM
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Yeah but sex 2-5 times a week. How incompatible could they be if that was happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 04:34 AM
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Collagen loss is the one that has no real way to mask. Whoever invents a way around that will be a trillionare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 01:31 AM
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Did they clarify what "tenderness" meant with some kind of objective definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 08:50 PM
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Like they take themselves way too seriously. That's a big part of it. Seem to lose their sense of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 08:09 PM
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Definitely not although I'm sure it does not help. Single childlesn women in their 30's lack that spark too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 08:02 PM
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There are a few petite women that really do pas for much younger. A first glance you can be uncertain. Especially in a dark environment. I could not be certain of a woman's age if I had only seen her once for a few minutes. But after 30 minutes or an hour, and especially seeing them multiple times in decent light its different. I don't think I've ever been wrong about someone I worked with in an office environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 08:01 PM
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That sounds true, but I'm not completely convinced. I've seen it must be thousands of women who I knew the age of and I was rarely much off in guessing their age. And that was with just about every variable covered. Fitness, make up. It made a big difference in how attractive they were, but yeu still pick the age pretty easily. I think its the eyes. And the baby fat under the skin. Make up and even good health does not change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 10:03 AM
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Attitude is a lot more jaded. For most women there is a lack of brightness or perkiness. They're just less happy and less energetic. More judgemental. A small number of women avoid all that and they're an oasis of genuine happiness that's just wotderful to be around, but that's rare. Physically its hard to put your finger on it. I guess its just skin quality?? I don't know. Guys are not good at breaking down details rike that. But you can just tell a woman's age when you look at here. Its just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 05:28 AM
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They don't neem to realise its exactly the same as Nice Guy (tm). Both the cool girl and the nice guy pretend to be things they are not covertly expecting it will get them things. The cool girl thinks that if she just pretends to be cool for a while the guy will eventually fall in love with her and the can stop the the act. Then she gets mad when she can't stop being the cool girl. Nobody told her to be the cool girl. SHE made that decision. Just like nobody told the nice guy to be a white knigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 07:12 PM
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Your sister is lying. To you and probably to herself as well. Women do not want men to know which box they have put a man in. They have nothing to gain from it. The men in the second box would lose interest since they know hey don't have a real chance, and the men in the first box won't work as hard since they know they're already in. So women lie about the boxes. And the lie is more effective if the women believe it themself. Women spreading false information about their real sexual preferences…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 10:40 AM
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That's why it takes a lotg time to master.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 05:23 AM
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Yeah, people presume that some doing it really badly means no-one is doing it well and that it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 12:04 PM
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More stable personalities. Mens brain don't reach full maturity unti 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:48 AM
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Rp can take a top 10% guy and turn him into Chad. There's no reason to think that would be an very rare outcome with a large enough user base. It comes down to how much of a bump RP gives a guy. You don't have to be top 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 02:39 AM
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You've either seen it happen or you have not. Once you've seen guys usingred pill approaches to sleep with women as easily as the stories suggest there is nothing more to know. It works. You've seen it. If you have not had the opportunihy to see what real chads can do, IRL, then you're ksnot going to believe it. It seems to fantastic to be true. Its not believable that it really works like this. Like they say in The Matrix, "if I had not seen it with my own eyes, I would not have believed it". I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 11:59 PM
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Super hypergamy. Women would have children with the most attractive man they could bed. Then they would pay the man to be in their children's life. Single motherhood would skyrocket. MGTOW would become the norm for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 08:32 AM
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Of course there are exceptions. You're a good person. But what I am describing is very common, if surprising. Go to askmen and look for threads about showing vulnerability. You'll see the same response over and over. Its common enough that even non red pill men treat not showing weakness to your partner as common sense they all had to learn the hard way. Your response is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 08:29 AM
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Vulnerability = woman wants to know her partner feels something for her. That he does, or at least potentially cares about her enough that her beraking up with him would cause him at least some pain. ie, she has emotional leverage over him. That's all it is. Vulnerability to her leaving, or at least the potential for that if she can get him invested in her enough. But nothing more than that. No a guy being sad that his dog died is good. If he stoically pushes through that and sheds a single manl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 03:03 AM
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So why don't they enroll into Humanities sciences universities, where there are so many more women than there are men, and the women are looking for a fun time, instead of enrolling in engineering school They value careers and money. They know uni will be fun but life for a guy without a good job is pretty shit. Career success is not optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 11:57 PM
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Whats the gender ratio at your university?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:48 PM
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I can't find any data that breaks it down by age. There's also the question of looks match break ups vs looks difference which would have a big impact on each gender's experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 09:24 AM
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Story of every Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:40 AM
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Yes I'm sure. The girls would never date them in the first place if they were not looks match. And I'm talking about guys in 12month+ relationships. Not guys talking about women they would like to date. Women they actually have spent a substantial amount of their life with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:32 AM
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Yes, of course. Although you have to consider that a young twenties girl gets an enormous attractiveness bump for her youth. I guess its more accurate to say they're lifetime looksmatch, but she's at the peak, while he's on the upward part of the slope.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:05 AM
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I can't see how almost any of the above relates to the red pill. Its interesting perspectives, but pretty standard stuff that is not new for anyone paying attention. The tension between acheivement/capability and being attractive is the only bit relevant to RP that I can see, but that's more acknowledged by RPers than most women so I can't see the value of sharing it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:00 AM
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It’s like that funny bird who builds those Arches out of twigs and adorns them with bits of colorful plastic in order to impress the lady birds. “Do you like dis? Do you like me?” It’s cute The tragedy of being a male of any species. You have to do stupid things to prove yourself worthy of reproduction. Be it a bird growing ridiculous heavy tail feathers, an impala goading a lion attacking it, or a human male doing human male things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 05:51 AM
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Women marry up. Guys like to provide for their family and feel their role matters. You can argue that's just social conditioning. Or that its innate. Feminists believe one. RP believes the other. We're entering into an experiment where we'll find out who is right. Data so far supports RP view, so if feminists are correct the status quo will have to change over the next 20-40 years. We'll know from the marriage and divorce data.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 05:44 AM
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But maybe your friend's blue collar ex was thinking it through in the long term. Sure she does not mind the income/status difference now, but what about in ten years? or 20? His status and income are close to their max already, but hers are likely going to continue to rise. And what about when she's dealing with the cold hard reality of being pregnant and living in a small house she's not happy with. And what about when it comes time to raise the kids and make a choice about who will stay home? …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 05:39 AM
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forcing men You're changing people's words around expecting to suffer no consequences for doing these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 05:20 AM
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Most guys want that when they're young. Story of most young average guys is usually the same. They dated a girl they were happy with and then she dumped him. Women do the vast majority of breaking up of more serious relationships when both partners are young (probably all ages). Most guys don't really get to experience a relationship that progresses smoothly through their twenties into marriage because their partner will dump them at nome point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 05:14 AM
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It was a suggestion to make the post more clear. That's certainly not true. Your statement says its skirting the rules, hence the warning to change it to a discussion future, and to re-word it into a form which would have made it more ambiguous, not clearer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 12:41 AM
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If its "fine" then why did say it must be done differently in future? You warned that posts "Posts asking leading questions are generally prohibited" and then said quite specifically how it should be done differently. You're clearly saying you've accepted it in this cirumstance, with these future conditions. You're not saying its fine. You would have just let it go through without suggestion for change if you genuinely felt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 12:28 AM
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so the hot guy ... isn't scramming after every girl. He probably is. What are the odds he would he ask you out if he wasn't? How do you think he became the "hot guy"? He asked out a thousand women, learnt what works (ie, what's attractive) and honed his dress, posture, conversation skills, confidence, technique and every other attribute under his control until he made himself into something you find attractive. This appears to be one half of why PUA is so effective. Women junt don't believe that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 12:11 AM
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not all guys are so desperate that they pursue women indiscriminately But most of the ones that ask you out are. Its just maths. If one guy in a hundred asks out a thousand women, and the other guys ask out two three each on average, then player makes 1000 approaches, and the other 99 make 300 approaches between them, then odds on the guy talking to you is a player. And who says he's desperate? He just does not care about your rejection. He has 100 notch posts in his bed and wants hundreds more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 11:08 PM
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Mod B It seems like a fairly normal PPD question to me. Mod A In the future post these kind of questions as a discussion: "Why don't ladies approach men first?" Which is it? Normal and perfectably acceptable? Or borderline, given a warning, and not acceptable in the future? Or you don't want to disagree with another mod so you highlight the fact it was not deleted and ignore everything the other mod said like the mod trying to turn the question into something that does not imply anything negativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 10:58 PM
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Your file.io link 404's
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 10:41 PM
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Not about women. But he is delusional about himself. That fucking them is making him, or one day will make him happy. Barney fucks all of New York, and marries his dream woman, and it still goes nowhere. He eventually finds joy in raising a child. On his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 10:06 PM
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With men? He's an asshole. Puts down other guys around him. Fucks their girlfriends and wives. Women love him for it. Real men don't trust him. His male "friends" are weak minded sycophants. He won't change because he feels like he is winning at life because he gets laid so much and he thinks pussy is the most important thing in the world. Think Barney from HIMYM, except he fucks Lilly and Robin on the down low the whole time and Marshall and Ted are actually a couple of nerds who never get laid…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 09:38 PM
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Once a guy had turned it off, its easy to see him wanting it to stay off. Its probably more a question of why he would want to turn his libido back on. When you think about it, there are not many reasons for a single average guy to turn it back on. And if they don't turn it back on they'll stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 09:03 AM
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Happens. Spends his life successfully chasing pussy and never learns until its too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 08:00 AM
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One day you'll get a chance to talk to a guy like that. You'll see there is a kind of loneliness in it. Its expecting women to fulfil that need for connection inside you and then learning even being super-chad will never get you that. Not that the sex isn't awesome, but putting on the alpha show for every girl that comes along is still work and not being yourself. You're better off learning how to form real male friendships, enpecially if you're young enough to create those life long bonds that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 04:54 AM
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I just looked at your post history. You seem like you see it, but don't yet believe it. There's a way out the other side where you know its true but you're at peace with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 04:23 AM
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Yaeh, its strange to realise how hard women enforce alpha/beta themselves, even on the alpha's. And how different they expect those relationships to be. You can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 02:04 AM
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Penis size is tied to masculinity and therefore "you have a small penis" can be understood as "you are not a real man". These pressures to conform to some specific kind of masculinity that he can't fulfill can cause depression in him. That's an aspect of the male gender role that's harmful for him. Your elaboration just reinforces that its toxic. You seem to be saying you're ok with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 12:58 AM
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Quite a number of accidenta, natural Chads complain about this. Guys who are extremely physically attractive, but not RP and actually just nice guys have thin problem. They find that they're the rebound guy. Women will seek them out after a break up, sleep with them, and then be uninterested in a relationship. The guys actually have some trouble finding a girlfriend (that meets their attractiveness standards) despite being so good looking. It might nimply be that girls are put off by their beta-…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 12:47 AM
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So its not toxic to value those things and shame met who lack them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 12:24 AM
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Chad. TRP is about how to be Becky's male equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 12:19 AM
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For women aged 30 or younger at sterilization... ...[regret] was lowest among women who had no previous births (6.3%, 95% CI 3.1, 9.4). Thatfs really interesting. Still leaves a couple of questions. How much of tme low regret rate is due to filtering out the less motivated due to the ireater difficulty childfree women have getting the procedure. And is missing out on having children altogether a worse outcome than already having children but not being able to have more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 08:38 AM
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We've got historically low levels of male sexual assertiveness. Women's control of their sex life and consent have never been more clearly in their own hands. Perhaps sexually submissive women are just turned of in general by today's sexual environment which places substantial power in own hands. It seems common sense that sexual submissives would be more aroused in general in cultures where sexual dominance was the norm and power was inherently in their partners hands. In many tribal societies …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 09:48 PM
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he number of pre-marital partners from most to least stability: 1>3-9>2>10+. That's actually a really good example where there is a reason to believe at least one of the numbers in it. But even there I'd wonder about it. Would women who have good sexual relationships with their husband feel happier "believing" he was their only sexual partner? While women who have less happy sex lives with their husband be more willing to admit their other partners? When it comes to what people prefer to believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 01:34 AM
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The second article gives a good explaination of why sexuality survey researchers believe self report numbers are truthful, but also when you dig through it you realise they're still going largely on faith. They're able to develop research methods that are more consistent and by using anonymity and questions that overlap and other techniques, they're able to get consistent, reliable data. But nowhere in their methods or research in that actlire do they actually go out and get a reliable non-self …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 01:04 AM
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Oh come on. If its a power law distribution then capturing the average will use a completely different approach than simply averaging out the sample you have. You can't state with confidence what the average is unless you're confident of the distribution profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 12:06 AM
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I never said it was scientific. But IRL it seems to be pretty consistently accurate. There is very little reseach about discrepancy between self reports and actual numbers, since that would be unethical to carry out so there's no scientific data one way or the other. But you'd have to be living under a rock and preteding slut shaming is not a thing to think women don't feel a strong pressure to under report their numbers. The question is by how much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 12:01 AM
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I think a normal distribution is a fair guess for how these numbers look. Translated into statistical terms one of the fundamental principles of TRP is that male partner count does not follow a normal distribution. It looks like a power law distribution intstead. Female partner counts follow a normal distribution. Male ones have a completely different dynamic. I think your guess that a normal distribution is appropriate for both partner counts is way off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 11:58 PM
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TRP rule of thumb is to double or triple a women's self reported numbers. So you can translate the stats based on the assumption that the numbers are under reported by this amount. 2002: 3.8 7.6 to 11.4 2006-2010: 3.9 7.8 to 11.7 2011-2015: 4.2 8.4 to 12.6 But that's median. Which means that 50% of women have higher numbers than that. And it tells us nothing about how much higher those numbers are. The next stat gives some indication of what's going on with the above higher than median women. Ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 11:40 PM
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Small number of super chads that are not captured in the stats changes everything. Those exist. There is no mathematical reason for the median number of partners for men and women to be even be similary. Its a bit counterintuitive, but you'd expect the median partners for women to be a higher than the median partners for men because a small number of men have very high partner counts, and they're the ones who account for most of the women's partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 11:23 PM
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Knowing the rules is exhausting. But its even more exhausting as living under them and not even knowing what they are or even that they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 01:30 AM
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The numbers are lower than than that for the smaller groups. And there are more levels (team, etc). Dunbar gives quite exact numbers. haven't quite sorted out yet is whether I think women's genes Human beings are patrilocal. Look it up and you'll see that it explains a lot about human social behaviour if you think about it. The net result is tribes tend to consist of closely related males and unrelated females. Hence the difference in loyalty to tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 11:31 PM
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I have not read his book but I assume he is talking about much smaller groups than those we live in today. When everfone knows each other its easier to trust democratic processes. You might be interested in the book Dunbar's Number. It describes how human beings handle different sized groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 09:18 PM
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Butch does not mean what you seem to be aiming for. Androgynous might be a better word, but I'm not really sure what you mean. Butch implies they're actively tryind to replace any aspects of femininty with masculine traits, or at least trying for a anti-feminine appearance. Not a mix of both traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 09:10 AM
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Do you mean butch or tomboy? They're quite different things, at least to my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 03:05 AM
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20% of young women who get sterilised end up regretting it. Women do change their mind in large numbers. Its a very valid concern from doctors who take the oath of "first, do no harm" seriously when there are plenhy of other options out there for birth control that don't have only an 80% success rate in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:32 PM
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Which gender do you mean when you say other gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 06:25 AM
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The problem with the bee structure is that it can't really do anything. Without centralised decision making complicated plans are impossible since on-one has both enough information to break a goal down into thousands, or millions of very different tasks, and the authority to get other people do do them, and control resource distribution to the people doing it. Any plan that is too complicated for most people to understand will not be supported. So the hive is restricted to swarm like activities…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 01:49 AM
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lol no. Becky flirts with guys just enough to give them hope she's interested in them. If they start to fade away she raises the attention she gives them just enough to reel them back in then promptly drops it back down. Shefs at expert at dialing up and down the attention she gives. She constantly advertises her sexual availability by implying she has an awesome sex life with sexually revealing clothing and wild stories of crazy things she does and easily breaking the touch barrier with men. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 12:24 AM
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calculate the time it'll take to adjust to the impact of that decision. All of your time is spent maintaining the status quo, That's only a factor when you've got people who only co-operate if they feel like it. In a male team guys quickly subordinate themselves to the new decision and put aside their personal feelings. Its a fundamental difference between how men and women operate in larger groups. Speak to women managers yourself and ask them about it. One of the things they are shocked by is …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 12:06 AM
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Imagine nobody wanted to have a relationship with. No guy had ever approached you, and every guy you spoke to made it very clear they did not find you attractive, at all. In fact they seemed to barely tolerate being your friend and you have to do them favours all the time for them to even notice you. Eventually you found a guy or two who tolerated you enough to have a relationship with you, but did not seem very happy about it. You're constantly hoping they're in a good mood and wish they'd show…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 11:21 PM
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Realising that of all the women you're sleeping with, none of them are worth a serious relationship can make you feel a bit empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 08:05 PM
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Hypergamy + Conditional "Love" = Branch Swinging Values a better option very highly. Not actually attached to current option. Conditional love means he's only loved if he meets her conditions. Hypergamy means that one of the conditions is that he's the highest status guy currently available to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 08:01 PM
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with an emphasis on time management above all else That's so untrue its almost funny. Women value consensus above all else. And actually take much longer to make decisions than men because acheiving consensus requires giving everyone a chance to communicate. Women also believe problems are solved socially/emotionally. They try to make everyone is happy, which is acheived by talking and communicating feelings and coming to a consensus which makes no-one unhappy. Once that state is acheiveved, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 07:51 PM
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Can you elaborate in detail on this effect they have? To me, getting IOIs from beautiful women is one of the most interesting feelings I've ever had. Just read PUA and TRP. Its explained over and over. Or just get outside and watch people. I've known one or two That's fascinating! :) I've never known one. Can you describe these two men in detail? Can you describe in detail these men's physiological and neurological traits? Do you have anecdotes two? How did you come to befriend them, too? What p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 08:05 AM
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And you got that number where? I'm extrapolating based on the increase in percentage of virgins. More so no one cares about sales from men. Men don't have purchasing power. This is where the lack of relationships will change things. Men had no purchasing power because they got married and their money became part of the househould expenditure, which was primarily conrolled by women. But if these guys don't even get in relationships, then their money, that was previouly boosting women spending, st…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 07:11 AM
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masculinity is the cause of terrorism I note your unironic use of the singular. But you're doing the same thing I accused the other author of. You're putting your words in place and ignoring the original author's. But here you're so shortsighted you actually quoted the contradiction yourself. wield masculinity to recruit and retain members Does concrete cause bridges? Of course not. Its a resource that is wielded, shaped and used to build bridges. It makes great bridges. Its an abundant cheap, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 04:16 AM
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Because when you quote someone, but use bits of their words and then inject your own sentences in between its usually because you're trying to change what they say. Especially when you're journalist trained in getting quotes and have an entire book you could take paragraphs from. If I went through your entire post history and quoted you with something like mittenmaster0 "often state[s] on this sub that" he believes one should "categorize all of masculinity as harmful" you'd call me a disingenuou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 02:57 AM
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There are two people in this article. Michael Kimmel and his associates. Somenone who has substantial direct experience and success de-escalating hate group members. And the book reviews author of the article is Dina Temple-Raston who is a journalist for the Washington Post. The words in your quotes are her words, not his. For example He believes that gender, specifically masculinity, is both “the psychological inspiration” that sends young men into these groups “and the social glue that keeps t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 02:21 AM
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TRP specifically says women are attracted to assholish behaviour. Not just the symbols of being a bad boy. But the actual terrible behaviour. So negging, damaging people's esteem is attractive. Bullying people, especially other men is attractive. Dread game, manipulatively withdrawing attention and affection is attractive. Machiavellianism, demonstrating the ability to manipulate other people, and successfully lying to them is attractive. For some women, killing innocent people is attractive. Na…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 01:43 AM
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Bad Boy bully beats up nice guy nerd Nice guy nerd justifiably thinks that he's an asshole Girl knows, perhaps even saw Bad Boy Bully beating up nice nerd. Girl is attracted by Display of Dominance™ Girls's brain: Cognitive_Dissonance.exe activated Girl believes Bad Boy Bully is actually a good guy deep down. Beating up nerds kept from awareness by Cognitive_Dissonance.exe in brains background Girl dates Bad Boy bully Bad Boy treats her nice Bad Boy Bully has sex with her. Gets bored. Bad Boy Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 01:23 AM
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Most of the time one person is secretly hoping to escalate it into something more. They're usually lying to themself that they're happy with how things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 01:08 AM
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I'm interested to know if people who do this think they're capable of breaking through that inherent mistrust I do this. But in my experience its a pretty valid mistrust, so I don't see any reason to change it. If a women is feeling upset I assume its an emotional issue, and treat it as one. Most of the time it is. Sometimes it turns out there's a real world component to that, but the vast majority of the time there is not. You help her out with emotional tools, like support, re-framing etc. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 11:07 PM
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I don't thinl the pill-o-sphere is going to give western culture any real problems either way. TRP itself won't. Its effectively a tiny group that don't do anything but get laid a bit more often. But some of its ideas are starting to slip into the mainstream and I think that has the potential to create wider effects. I was shocked watching Chris Rock's latest netflix special where he basically quotes TRP for half the show. It was whining about marriage, but using Red Pill language and concepts t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 10:38 PM
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Its a lot more common than people realise. Many Chad's who have a number of plates will keep a couple of less attractive resource rich women on the roster (as crass as that sounds, its a pretty accurate description of how they think about it). I've known Chad's who date a women with a place in a skiing town for the winter. They have a bit of fun and move on come autumn. Other's who married one girl over another because of her family's wealth. I remember reading about another Chad who hoped to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 07:48 AM
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Dude, if you live in your basement and have mental problems you're probably not going out to bars and seeing guys like this IRL. You either have eyes and a social life or you don't. If you do then you've seen guys exactly like eastuss described, and seen the seemingly magical effect they have on entire groups of women. I've seen it, plenty of times. I've known one or two and seen the women walking out of his bedroom in the morning and talked with them over breakfast and had them befriending me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 07:22 AM
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I don't think any guy in a dead bedroom situation would feel he's getting a good deal. Especially if he's worked hard to be a high earner and is providing a very good lifestyle for his wife and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:14 PM
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We already know what happens when women earn the same as, or more than men. Women in the black community out earn black men by quite a margin. They just don't get married. They're arguably even more hypergamous, putting up with less support from partners who are not good to them and chasing after the few high value men even harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 10:38 AM
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I'd guess its because women only marry down financially when the man is significantly better in other ways to compensate. He's more attractive, has had a lot of partners and hence the women thinks she has a catch, even if he has no money. And/or has status as a musician or struggling artist or something like that. Imagine the successful women lawyer with the lead singer of a small time band, or she finally wins the popular guy from high school or college. He's at home being bored, and is not par…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 10:33 AM
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I actually don't think women's communication is really much more complicated than mens. Its just usually encoded. But the code is pretty simple once you work it out. Most of the communication difficulty is from very different world views, and the fact that women deliberately (but subconsciously) hide own preferences most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 10:21 AM
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hate most about bloggers like TRM-they take 7 pages to say what can be stated in a few paragraphs. Concise writing is a lot more work than longer pieces. Anyone writing for Vanity Fair or Rolling Stone has ruthless editors who will cut their piece down to the bare essentials and re-word things more efficiently. Its very difficult to edit your own writing like that. Its just hard to believe your own words are not adding to the point so you feel you can't cut anything out. Its the reason that work…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 10:17 AM
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Pimps are stereotypcially extremely flamboyant. They dress in wild bright colours. Take exceptional care of their appearance and grooming. It looks a little weird from the outside, but they know exactly what they are doing. Pimping is extreme RP game and they're doing all these things to attract and keep women. I guess its about the juxtaposition of extremely attention seeking behavour and outfits, with the risk of appearing feminine, yet having so much masculine confidence underneath it all tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 11:57 PM
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he'd be fwd only Friend With Dick ? I can see that catching on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 09:17 PM
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I'm not spending the rest of my life with a person that is disgusted by certain aspects of me and my life. And I don't want someone who is nelective about what they share with me based on how I would react to it. I'd never trust them. Its weird to me you'd want to be closely connected to someone while thinking like that. There are plenty of women and guys who feel the same way I describe so its not hard to find a partner that matches those preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 09:14 PM
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Most women on any gender sub on reddit seem a lot more judgemental than women IRL. Their life experience seems quite different from the general population too. Not sure why that is but there is definitely a strong self selection thing going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 09:07 PM
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You only need some people to do that. As the technology gets more mature the amount of maintennance it needs goes down. Today's planes and cars go further and carry more with less maintennance. The amount of people involved in technology production and maintennance is not very big as a part of the economy as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 12:07 AM
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I wouldn't take her seriously until we were both naked and about to do the deed. Anything said before that is just words.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 12:04 AM
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If a woman asked you to wear a thrust-counting cock ring and allow her to measure your penis before sex would you do it? Cool sounds like fun (or else she would not have sex with you), Manipulative crazy alert. Abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 10:40 PM
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Also women around age 30-40 are less likely to tolerate games and bullshit. They will tell you right away that they want to settle down and that they don’t want casual sex. If all women did this less men would be shit. But I can’t control all women. I can only control myself. In one comment you say women don't tolerate bullshit. In the next comment you say the opposite. But you yourself are different. Its unclear who you're referring to in your comments. You seem refer yourself, and other women …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:46 PM
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That entire article is describing what I mean. Women having low quality casual sex with partners barely invested in them while hoping it will turn into a serious relationship. Literally "tolerate games and bullshit", the opposite of what you said they do. The author is telling them to stop that do and to have standards and to communicate them, because they're not do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:29 PM
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Technology and the economy has improved to the point that there's enough surplus resources for children to be raised without the resources of a responsible father. Single motherhood is viable today. It was not in the past. Therefore you don't need to force every women that has children to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:16 PM
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This got me thinking that the idea of spinning plates works brilliantly for a divorced man. There's nothing in your post specific to divorced men. You've just described the benefits of spinning plates as a guy gets older instead of relationships. Why not just skip the marriage part completely and get every single one of the benefits you're describing anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:12 PM
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30-40 are less likely to tolerate games and bullshit. They will tell you right away that they want to settle down and that they don’t want casual sex In my experience that's not true at all. If they want casual sex there's less bullshit. But if they want a relationship its exactly the same, or even worse than younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:07 PM
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You'd be surprised how much of the emotional needs you have are simple intimacy. Sex is part of that, but sitting on the couch cuddling up while watching netflix is just as important. The bigger emotional needs you assume you're going to get out of a relationship like a sense of connection, someone to support you, something you're working towards etc etc can actually all be met outside of a relationship, unless you've defined relationship type things as your purpose in life. But even if you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:02 PM
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The women are wondeful effect. Both directly (their own brains subconsciously make allowances for women) and indirectly through the filtering out of discussion of women's bad behaviour in culture and media. For example try saying some women was a total bitch on Facebook and watch how quickly that gets shut down no matter how justified the statement is while the reverse is perfectly acceptable. And also in media its uncommon for women to be villans in the fiction that men consume and even when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 09:47 PM
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It wasn't inherent, women were banned from many areas of society I agree. I've reworded to clarify that it was not bio inherent but inherent to being a man in that particular society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 07:38 PM
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then why would you think it won’t be a waste of my time to start looking for them? Because if you're following gender/sexuality/dating issues you'll come across them constantly. You don't have to make any effort to look for them. More efficent for both of us since you won't have to wonder if I cherry picked my examples and you'll be seeing them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 05:25 AM
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Yes and no. You can't change human nature so if you mean we should just somehow make people live in monogamous relationships like we used to then I don't think that's possible. At least not without some kind of totalitarian control to produce a more barkwards society. Women tend to believe human nature is much more flexible than it actually is so you're perhaps more likely to think we can just rhange behaviour to fix this. I think we have to change society at a more fundamental level to fix the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 03:06 AM
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“trust me, take my word for it” lol. I'm saying here is my position. If you don't like it fine. This is not maths no "proof" doesn't exist. But there in evidence everywhere you want to look. I don't care if you agree with it or not, but if you're curious yourself about whether its true or not you can verify it yourself, like everyone else who eventually accepted TRP had to do. You're obviously not curious about whether its true or not, you're just looking for things that contradict it, probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 02:54 AM
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lower value guy saying the same thing (or similar) and she ignoring the advice, If your eyes are open you'll see that in almost every thread on dating and gender relations. Have a look through therads that have nothitg to do with TRP. It happens constantly. The fact women ignore this usually straight forward advice almost constantly is the strange bit which needs an explaination. The TRP provides one. You can see for yourself if what I said explains how dating advire from men to women is accepte…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 12:29 AM
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Oh, in that case then you missed the most important part of the comment you're referencing. I'm not faulting you for this if both are true, because I'm very busy (I have a full time job, run 100 miles a month, lift 4x/week, and own a business) and I'm super picky too. However, that is also why I'm pretty much only casually dating right now. Op listened to his point because he was exactly the kind of high value guy she is interested in. She treated it as the dating preferences of her targets. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 08:53 PM
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atlas is spot on. The problem is that when you include women in RP discussion you get never ending attemps to water down the message to take away the harsh bits. You see that here in PPD with constant questions about what is RP, and what its not, and lots of RP/PP people saying they accept some of the RP but not other (usually unpleasant) parts. TRP says unapologetically that women are terrible people in a lot of ways. I think people should be ok with that because you can say men are terrible pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 10:23 PM
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You're a pretty typical result of being raised by women. You've ended up with two problems because of it. You're not good at male to male bonding Your expectations of female relationships are very high and unreasonable You were never exposed to healthy male only spaces growing up so you never got to learn how men share emotions. Men are plenty supportive of each other and happy to "share emotions", but only in spaces without women in them. If men share emotions/problems/weaknesses in a social sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 10:06 PM
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I didn't disagree with your interpretations of my brain or RPers or your ability to do it. I only pointed out your motives for doing so in that particular instance. You're also doing what I'd consider 8. on the checklist. If its a point you consider a negative about yourself and can't successfully dispute it then deflect by saying it applies to the other side at least as much and make mirror arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 06:57 AM
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There's a kind of checklist you can use to categorise arguments that women seem to make. Ambiguise the points to make them so general that the other person's statements can be claimed to be meaningless Ambiguise your own position by stating it minimally in ways that can be later defined more narrowly so it can't be argued against. Do this by using short sweeping statements that you can later say were should not be interpreted literally If it is argued against, just define it differently of what …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 06:24 AM
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But it works with every women I try it with. Or watched other guys trying it. I spent a long time assuming it only applied to damaged women, but over time I just could not find any exceptions and eventually accepted AWALT. If women had seen every guy they met engage in an act of serious violence in the exact circumstances that some imaginary green pill predicted then you'd have to take that seriously. If they were able to predict and activate the circumstances that turned a man violent and were …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 04:46 AM
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Actually yes. They're living in a feminist universe too now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 05:53 AM
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Historical fiction has always been a niche interest. Its not easy for most people to apply it to there lives. That's hardly surprising. What are you saying here? People are different to me therefore their issues are not real? You have a solution that works for you. Discussion over?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 04:50 AM
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Because people want stories relevant to their own lives? Why even bother with movies at all? The Odyssey was perfectly good for the ancient greeks and they were plenty manly. But I suppose if I spent enough time thinking about it I'm sure I could figure out what Sam Malone would do when Jessica SC's me on Thursday but IG'd Matt at the same time and use that as a role model.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 04:40 AM
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The 80's and 70's were long time ago. Watch modern tv and movies. Han Solo and OT Luke Skywalker are great role models. Rey is a Mary Sue who young guys don't identify with anyway. Perhaps they're supposed to be Finn? Luke Skywalker has been turned a teat sucking moral coward. The movie studio execs today seem to be actively trying to produce the lesbian role models they never had themselves growing up. People watch Bojack Horsemen on Netflix today. They've never even heard of the TV show's you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 04:06 AM
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Polygamy is outlawed or at least limited to reduce violence and maintain political stability. It has almost nothing to do with people's relationship desires, only their political ones. In the absence of political threat polygamy keeps increasing. Status and wealth tend to concentrate over time and women actually prefer polygamy over mongamy. Monogamy is forced onto women by politics. Hence most sanctions against breaking marriage contracts are directed at women (slut shaming by moral leaders, ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 09:30 PM
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In college, women have an extremely high number of options. They are catered to by almost any frat party (very easy to get in), Co-op parties, etc. Gym culture on college campuses is rampant, it surrounds them with top quality, fit men. College sports culture also makes it easy to meet the tip top men physically, college athletes. If women in their 30's, 40's and 50's were as attractive as women in their 20's guys would be going out of their way to put on fun social events that brought them in. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 06:47 AM
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