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It's worse than women getting mad that a man thinks he has a chance with her. Women have, and are, increasingly, making it borderline illegal for a man to approach a woman in more and more settings. It's become taboo to do it at work, which is absolutely insane. It's taboo to do it in the street or public places. It will next be taboo to do it in schools and universities (it's already very dicey due to the ever-expanding definition of rape and sexual assault). Drunk sex is now illegal, even thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:09 AM
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Of course they will, because women are never responsible for their negative actions, and are always the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:06 AM
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But it's too stupid a view to need to change, sorry. Women being able to filter out 80% of men will help men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:45 PM
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Yeah, but even taller guys don't want tall women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:42 PM
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Yes, just not anywhere near as much as women do. And men aren't anywhere near as picky as women, nor do they have anywhere near as much sexual power as women. So men's preferences aren't that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:24 PM
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It wasn't supposed to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:23 PM
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And men don't like taller women, so that works out fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:38 PM
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Remember the response to the app which removed women's makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:36 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:35 PM
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I'm not a Yank, I don't care about this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:49 PM
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>If you pay women for the work they provide for free, they will be contributing to the tax base and won't need public assistance. Lol wtf? Who is paying them? The government, presumably? Where does that money come from? And, again, THEY'RE ALREADY BEING PAID. Your economic understanding seems lacking. Who the fuck is paying people to wash their own clothes and empty their own dishwasher? Because I'd love to be paid for those things. Men would be able to afford to pay for a wife and a stay at hom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:43 PM
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There are as many people who are fit to be blue collar as there are to be white collar, that's the point. But it's practical to learn Pythagoras theorem and Henry the 8th's wives if you're not going to be a mathematician or a historian? Practical skills are much more transferrable than half the shit we're taught in schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:39 PM
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Trade and technical schools should be the norm, not restricted to post-16, after 11+ years of being forced to stare at textbooks and whiteboards for 6-7 hours per day. You're not understanding what "practical skills" means. It means learning shit like woodworking, plumbing, electrical works, mechanics, whatever. Things kids who are crap at intellectual pursuits may actually have an aptitude for. > What practical skills do you expect the school to teach your kid when you won't put in the time to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:31 PM
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I believe I responded to a comment saying women pay their own bills. I don't really see the relevance of your comment. But why should men have to subsidise women having children?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:25 PM
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>But a lecture hall of women studying to become social workers or fashion designers doesn’t make it harder for men to study history or media production. It seems like you are just mad women are learning and developing as people, and that that alone feels like oppression to you. It is oppression, because men are having to pay for it. Men are having to slave and pay taxes for women's prolonged adolescence. Also, it does make it harder. There aren't an infinite number of places at universities, nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:16 PM
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>Then you say we don’t need to do that for any of the trades traditionally done by women because they are all stupid and not important. Quote where I said that, or words to that effect. >Then you say women usually get what they want because female interests are prioritized. Because they do, and they are. As evidenced by the outcomes. >And women do essential jobs. The majority of people labeled as essential workers during the covid pandemic were women. Nursing, childcare, food production, cleanin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:16 PM
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>It’s not like we learn anything about hair care or arranging flowers. Two trade based jobs that are dominated by women. I really don't think those jobs are equivalent to, say, electricians, plumbers, mechanics-- essential jobs, and quite well paid jobs. >Is the school system prioritizing high paying jobs and centered around preparing for academia above trades? Yes. But that’s not a gendered issue, that’s classism. I disagree. And I think many of the nonsense subjects which have become prevalent…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:46 AM
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Yeah, it shows the man's commitment to give you half of his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:28 AM
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What does that have to do with men, or me? Her body, her choice, her responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:26 AM
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So, women are perfect and have no negative traits inherent to their gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:19 AM
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It isn't projection, I am intellectually inclined. Was great at reading and writing from an early age, was in top sets for just about everything, was in Gifted & Talented, in a good school (despite never trying), IQ of probably 140+. But I had a best mate, growing up, who was the complete opposite. But he was better than me at many, many things, largely practical things. He taught me how to ride a bike, despite being almost a year younger than me. He solved a Rubik's Cube that had been lying aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:15 AM
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Women are paid for their "unpaid" labour. What do you think welfare, child support, marriage/divorce settlements/alimony are? What do you think taxes are, and what do you think they're spent on? Society is built around taking money from those who earn it and giving it to people who aren't working and don't earn it. Particularly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:08 AM
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And they fund them with their taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:51 AM
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Sexual orientation and sexuality are the same thing. If you want to indulge esoteric woke nonsense, that's fine. But most people don't, and definitions of words are dictated by how the majority use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:50 AM
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I said the opposite of that. I also already tried to explain why I wouldn't want to change something so fundamental about myself. It just feels wrong. Would you want to be a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:47 AM
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That's why women seldom marry men who earn less than them. But it's still a benefit, because you'll likely stop working for a period when you have kids. And he will likely spend a larger % of his income on you, than the inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:45 AM
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Thanks for illustrating my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:34 AM
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Are migrant men not men? But you are right. Western society has already collapsed, in the fundamental aspects. Women aren't having babies and men aren't slaving at work. Immigrants are doing a bulk of both of these fundamental things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:28 AM
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>If both couples work (a fairly common dynamic), both get home at 6pm, the wife immediately starts cooking the food and doing the laundry and the husband sits down in front of the TV, where's the payment for that? That isn't the "common dynamic" at all. Men work far more house than women do, on average: UK overall weekly hours of work by gender 2024| Statista That's before we get to the fact that men do much harder work, on average. Men dominate all the physically hard and dangerous jobs, all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:27 AM
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A minority of subjects being male-dominated doesn't mean education is not completely feminised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:58 AM
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No, they don't. >Their also much more realistic about kids, whether they can afford them, whether they can look after them, whether they actually want to be a parent or not. I don't know what this means. Men get little choice in deciding to be a parent. Women have near complete reproductive power and autonomy. We kind of need kids, to maintain society. You need 2.1 children per woman, to maintain a population. Without which, you have an ageing society, with lots of retired people and not enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:57 AM
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Okay. In which case, go live in the woods, surrender your house (built by men), forego the protection of the police (men, paid for by men's taxes), military (the same) and we'll empty the prisons (built, paid for and manned by men). Just for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:54 AM
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I'm not talking about me. I am intellectually inclined, and rubbish at practical things. >I know guys who almost flunked out of high school who worked entire summers fixing their relatives cars and helping their dads build cabins and fences. And when they got out of high school they applied to be in programs to become mechanics or carpenters. >And if they don’t want to do a trade or get higher education, why don’t they get a job as a cashier or waitress? Why don’t they apply to work in factories…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:53 AM
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Because they're not paying their own bills. Their income is being massively subsidised by men's income. Men work, on average, around 7.5 hours per week more than women. UK overall weekly hours of work by gender 2024| Statista Are women paying 60% less income tax than men? – Full Fact
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:32 AM
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A woman is an essential part of having a better life, for a man. It's quite simple. In addition to which, for a large % of males, school is a complete waste of time. They aren't intellectually inclined, so it's just a deadening, frustrating experience. They don't learn any practical skills, they don't learn a trade, they don't learn anything that can help them get a good job they are skilled at. Because education is now completely feminised. As is the home, usually. If you're unhappy with men, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:54 AM
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>Something I will admit I’m proud of young women for these days, they put themselves first This is certainly true. They don't care about the welfare of their children or contributing to society, it's all about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:51 AM
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It isn't "unpaid" labour, you're literally being paid to do it. By the man. That's what marriage is. >When divorcing, women lose more income, Yeah, they lose the man's income. Meaning the man contributed more, financially, throughout the marriage. You really do live in upside-down world, don't you? Women aren't victims of violence more, nor are they cheated on more. What you mean is that women claim to be victims of violence more, and claim to be cheated on more. Because women claim victimhood o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:48 AM
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Yeah, having access to 50% of a man's income and assets has no upsides at all. And then there's the effect on children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:44 AM
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People can just stop working. Quite easily. Or simply work less. Or move abroad. Yes, they will be supported by other people. Other peoples' taxes. Like women are. But that, ultimately, won't work, and society will collapse. Western society is still only functioning because of mass immigration. Women aren't having babies and men are, increasingly, not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:41 AM
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Men are still doing all the grunt work in society. The idea that women are productive is downright hilarious. Women are coming to dominate all *desirable* and prestigious work-- primarily because of "diversity" policies and anti-male discrimination, and these environments becoming feminised and hostile to men. But, yes, I've said before that the primary reason men work, earn and strive to succeed is for the reward of a woman, and to provide for a woman and his family. I got told I was insulting …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:39 AM
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What's odd is you viewing "toxic masculinity" as men being bad and "toxic femininity" as men/society being bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:38 AM
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I asked what toxic femininity was (ie what negative traits females have, due to their gender) and you responded with various forms of supposed female victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:14 AM
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Lol. So toxic femininity is women being oppressed and victimised by men? Thanks for confirming your misandry. Also, thanks for giving an example of what toxic femininity is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:08 AM
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>I do know him as a person and I know he wouldn’t have me being a gf while pregnant with his child. That wouldn't really be his choice, would it? You decide when you get pregnant. >I’m asking him to take the same leap of faith I am by committing my body,my womb,my safety and my mind to him. Lol. You aren't committing any of those things to him. You have complete autonomy over your body and your womb, and I've no idea what "safety" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:39 AM
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>If you change your mind about being married or you’re unsure but you haven’t voiced that properly you’re still being dishonest. You haven't decided to get married until you're engaged. >This post is based off men who admit that they never wanted to get married tho. Which is almost zero men. If a man hasn't proposed, and you're not engaged, there is zero presumption of marriage. There's no real reason to not get engaged, if you want to get married. Unless it's the very early stages of a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:36 AM
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You still haven't mentioned a tangible reason why. Or acknowledged the obvious, tangible reason I have provided. The Father is legally obligated to pay for the child, regardless. The woman has all the power.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:31 AM
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And you know him as a person. You're asking him to take you at your word, but you're not willing to take him at his. ie you want him to bear all the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:29 AM
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What is toxic femininity?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:28 AM
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Toxic femininity is telling your friends about your boyfriend's dick size and sexual performance-- something women do much more than men do anything akin to the above example, incidentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:28 AM
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You can't make a man more "vulnerable" and "emotional" without making him less likely to protect you, in general. You can't make him more vulnerable and emotional without making him less likely to slave all day in a shit, physically demanding job, sacrificing his body doing so. It all goes hand in hand. You can't pick and choose. The women/misandrists whining about "toxic masculinity" want all the benefits of masculinity without any of the trade-offs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:26 AM
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>Masculinity: resilience Toxic masculinity: thinking emotions and vulnerability are a sign of weakness These are basically the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:22 AM
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You have no way of knowing if they're lying. You're just assuming they're lying, because you're not keen on men having choice and autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:13 AM
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No, you don't. Why would you care about a legal title? It means nothing. What you care about is the legal entitlements it gives you. ie his money and financial incentive to stay with you, and provide for you. > Also i wouldn’t be caught dead having a child a man told me he didn’t want lol. Yeah, that's what most women say. And yet millions of babies are born every day, out of wedlock. Again, these are words. Why should he believe your words, if you don't believe his?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:12 AM
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And what assurances does he have that divorce would be fair on him? What are the benefits of marriage for men today, compared to the risks? >but I really am in it for the long haul soooo. That's what everyone getting married says and believes. He has presumably said words to that effect to you-- and yet you still demand marriage to prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:09 AM
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>In my opinion a man who wouldn’t sign a piece of paper or give me the official and legal title of a wife but expects me to experience unimaginable things during pregnancy and to possibly risk my life doesn’t respect me enough. You don't care about the "legal title", you want legal access to at least 50% of his income, and assets. Which he's more likely to die providing than you are from childbirth. You have complete autonomy over when you have a child, so I don't know why that's an issue. If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:12 AM
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His body, his choice. A man can change his mind any time he wants. You aren't entitled to anything from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:09 AM
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Will you feel bad when you divorce-rape your husband, take his house and children, and sentence him a decade of servitude? Because that's likely the end game of your marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:09 AM
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I don't know, it's hard to conceive of changing something so essential to your identity. I wouldn't want to be asexual either. Lusting after women is my primary drive in life. I wouldn't want to be a woman either, despite believing they have easier and better lives, in most respects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:55 AM
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I don't do those jobs. We're not discussing me, we're discussing men, women and society. It's not about pay. It's about contribution to women, while women are not contributing equivalently to men. Which is part of what your OP was about. You're right that men don't want to do them. But they do do them, because they need to be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:27 AM
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What numbers am I supposed to give? lol. There are no relevant or reliable numbers on the issue of whether people are happier when married, or happier in general. Happiness is far too abstract and subjective to measure, mortality rates while marries/single have far too many variables to mean anything (I gave one), and there's no such thing as "broken heart syndrome" (it's a made-up abstraction). Nobody dies of a broken heart, that isn't a material, medical thing. "Takotsubo cardiomyopathy" is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:21 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:13 AM
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Six sentences containing absolutely nothing. Do you know what "projection" is? Emotional people can't engage in debate, and resort to inane adhominems. The phony intellectual here is you, citing nonsense pseudoscience as if it means anything. I've explained why such "studies" are bullshit. Something you haven't responded to. Because you're too emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:23 AM
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Sexuality = the sex you're attracted to. Liking a smart person is not a sexuality, it's a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:34 PM
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Yeah, this sub is the opposite of reality. It's one of the very few places where men are allowed to actually express themselves, without being censored to protect the women (to some extent). For example, look how men are demonised for being attracted to younger women, and how socially taboo it has become. It used to be typical for older men to get with young women. Now it's rare. Despite it being natural and what men, innately, want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:32 PM
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There isn't any relevant or reliable data in your OP. Woke, pseudoscientific "studies" are not data. I gave you an example of how you can undercut such nonsense, agenda-driven, correlation = causation drivel, simply by introducing one (of millions) alternate hypothesis/control. Women take absolutely no responsibility for their lives, individually. They rely on men for EVERYTHING. Like most stupid people, and feminists, you're blindly ignoring all these things because they're provided indirectly,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:29 PM
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I don't know where to start with this. The idea that men take less individual responsibility for themselves than women do is hilarious. I've never heard a man care about dying earlier than women. And the pseudoscientific "studies" which conclude that men live longer with women are certifiable nonsense (as most "social science" "studies" are). For a start, a person will naturally live longer if they live with any other person. Just the practicality of having another person there to call an ambula…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:27 PM
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The same applies to all social media. He's basing his entire reality off the data. Male sexlessness and singleness is through the roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:28 AM
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>. Many just don’t know about these sexualities Probably because they're not sexualities, they're preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:26 AM
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Men are criticised for everything. Men just don't set themselves up as morally virtuous creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:24 AM
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Would a woman tracking a man's testosterone levels, to avoid his rage, be misandrist? Seems very smart for men to stay safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:18 PM
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Men don't "abandon" their children. Men aren't the ones who have reproductive power and choice-- that's women. With power comes responsibility-- women's Kryptonite. >So if fatherless kids cause crimes, then how about lending your time to be a father figure to a child for the good of society, men? You wont fix the crime problem but you expect women to? How about women pay 80% of taxes and do 95% of hard and essential jobs in society, build, maintain, protect everyone and everything? Men already d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:32 PM
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I'd be the one asking. I've never understood co-sleeping. People need their space. I need my space when sleeping and my own space to retreat to. I don't want to bathe in my partner's farts, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:28 PM
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Most men only want one woman. It's women and the top tier men who want more than one partner. The ones with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:10 PM
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You aren't being used. You're just a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:01 PM
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Women rape men. Women abuse men. Women hit men. Women kill men. The downright hilarious misandry of blaming lesbians abusing each other on men. Unwittingly, you've actually highlighted why the REPORTED rates of abuse are higher in female/female relationships-- because females are born victims. They report victimisation of everything far more than men do. If you have two of them in a relationship, instead of one/none, of course they're going to report being victims more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:13 AM
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> Also gay men are less likely to report their DV to the police because law enforcement as an institution has been historically homophobic toward gay men. No, men are much less likely to report victimisation of any kind, because they're men. While women are much more likely to report, over-report and falsely report victimisation, because they're women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:07 AM
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Women have been conditioned to victimise themselves. ie pretend to be victims when they're not, exaggerate victimhood, angelicise their actions and demonise/pathologise male actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:06 AM
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I am the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:04 PM
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How about friends? How are you at making and maintaining them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:29 AM
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>No one’s. It is no one’s “responsibility” to be attractive to anyone. It's a man's responsibility to provide women with everything they could need or desire. But it's not a woman's responsibility to provide a man with anything he needs or desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:25 AM
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>It’s not women’s “responsibility” to be attractive to men. Yes, it is. Who else's responsibility would it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:14 PM
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>A vanishingly small number of men are willing and able to provide “male labor and resources” and the only men who protect women are paid to do so. This is about the most stupid thing I've ever read. Men provide almost all the labour and the vast majority of resources in society. But, because it's provided to you indirectly and you don't have to provide anything in return, or interact directly with the men, in most cases, you think it doesn't exist. Who built your house and almost everything in …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:28 PM
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>Then why reply at all? Because this is a discussion forum. > Never discussed dick size with friends because it's not a thing I feel needs discussion. Dick size is between the people involved with the dick in question, not outside forces. Again, I don't care about you or your anecdotal experience (which is a lie, anyway). It's a fact that women do this, and men do not. >Learn some basic anatomy, then we can discuss this. I'd recommend you to do the same. Maybe talk to some Doctors. The idea that…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:23 PM
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>but that's because most vaginas, like most penises, are not particularly noteworthy. Yet women talk about penises to their friends incessantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:14 PM
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If I'd said that, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:30 AM
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Believe them when they talk about men's dicks, height, looks, "toxicity", narcissism, abuse, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:29 AM
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>With age, not use. With both. >And the red pill/blackpill forums you frequent seem to have a bias toward what women think, I've seen plenty that talk about women's parts extensively with those memes. And those places are not representative of men or of reality. They're niche and extreme. Men do not discuss their girlfriends'/wives' vaginas with their friends, like women discuss their partners' dicks with theirs. Why is stating this fact controversial? >Either own it, or don't make generalizatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:49 AM
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Nobody said vaginas don't vary. >One thing I can confirm, vaginas absolutely can return to factory settings. In the instance of childbirth, this is less certain Spring back from what if not child birth? Taking a dick a few times? That isn't what we're talking about. Unless you've banged a woman over 10+ years, and she's had kids during that time, your useless anecdotal experiences are even more useless, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:45 AM
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Because both statements are true, it's not complex. Almost no man has ever had a male friend talk to him about his girlfriend's vagina. It just doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:41 AM
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I really don't know what you're talking about. Men being willing to fuck anything isn't a revelation. Media isn't supposed to represent reality, a large % of it is supposed to represent the ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:40 AM
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>Who the fuck informed men they deserve a never ending parade of beautiful young women in media? Probably the same people who informed women they deserve male labour, resources and protection on tap for anything and everything they could ever desire. If a woman says "I deserve protection", society says "yes you do, and men have to provide it". If a man says "I'd like to look at attractive women on TV, society says "shut the fuck up, you sexist pig". >And can we see photos of the men who feel the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:38 AM
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>Not one of four billion women on the planet asked men. Not one of four billion men care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:34 AM
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Yes, I meant IRL. That's an obscure internet meme. And it's nowhere near as widespread as "small dick energy".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:34 AM
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>Women in general are judged much more for their appearance, starting at a very young age so, by this logic, there shouldn't be any complaining about penis or height shaming? If you think it's more normalised for men, today, to degrade women's looks, than for women to degrade men in general, you're living in an alternate dimension. Women are judged much more for their appearance, BY OTHER WOMEN, primarily. Men judge a woman's looks and put them in to two categories: would fuck or wouldn't fuck. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:59 PM
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>Really? I've seen plenty of "railed women look like" comparison memes. Always talking about how a woman who has had sex is now stretched out and won't make a good partner. The comparisons range from doughnuts to garbage cans. Those are extremely rare, compared to how often and regularly females talk about men's dicks. Girls routinely share intimate details about their partner with their friends, including dick sizes and sexual performance. Men do not. >(Hilariously untrue, muscles can stretch a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:08 PM
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I respond to comments. I don't even look at who posted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:46 PM
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>Which is not considered more masculine. It's just considered a different aesthetic. No, it's considered cleaner and more professional (and younger). Wearing a certain attire isn't equivalent to having to shave your body hair. That's a normal part of a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:46 PM
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Yes, I am. And men being eradicated from media. Due to the now ubiquitous "diversity" and feminist agenda in media. It's not a fear, it's what's happening. Adverts are now full of fat, ugly women, they're winning beauty contests, and so on. Which is promoting being fat and ugly to women, and dismissing men's desires for women to be slim and attractive. It's a clear agenda. It's also promoting obesity and unhealthiness. Which is a huge negative to society. Often, they're outright replacing women …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:45 PM
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Most of the time, when I've seen women do it, the guy doesn't even have a small dick. How do I know? Because I've seen cam girls and e-whores do it, with their ex's, who they had previously shot "content" with. Most of the time, they're just pissed off at their ex-boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:53 PM
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That goes both ways. Men don't talk about a woman's vagina size.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:52 PM
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Women comment on women's looks a billion times more often than men do. They'll find flaws in anything. I remember my Mum commenting on Sarah Michelle Gellar's arm hair, one time. "She's pretty but she has really long arm hair". Lol. Paul Dano plays weird roles and is not a sex symbol in any way. Also, men and women are not the same. I do wish people would stop pretending they are. Women are valued for their looks and sexuality, primarily, men are not. Men are valued for their strength, ability t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:50 PM
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Men shave more than women do. Most men shave their faces every single day. Often, they're forced to for their job. eg. I worked in a supermarket when I was younger and was forced to shave, at work, if I turned up with stubble. And men had to take time off to grow a beard. Sounds absurd, but it's true. I laughed when a guy told me the latter. Meanwhile, it would be a lawsuit and feminist outrage waiting to happen if a woman was forced to shave any part of her body as a condition of her employment…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:37 PM
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Women are much less hairy than men. Hairlessness is just exaggerating femininity. That's a lot of what attractiveness is, exaggerating femininity and masculinity. It's why women like men who are 6'4. Men are slightly taller than women, on average, but women like men who are MUCH taller. Women lather on fakeup to exaggerate feminine and youthful features like clear skin, prominent lips/eyes, redness of lips/cheeks etc. It's pretty simple to understand. It's not "retraining" what men find attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:35 PM
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Well yeah, men who are punished for their physical flaws see a woman elevated for hers, of course there will be overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:32 PM
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>When we said "I would rather left alone with a bear in the woods" the picture on the left is what we meant. Left picture is giving daddy bear lumberjack and women love that. Was this supposed to make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:17 PM
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A few things. Partly, it's lying. Partly, it's women being threatened by super fit men, they don't like their man to be more attractive than they are. And then there's the fact that women are attracted to innate biological traits, not things which look like they've taken undue effort-- that's why they like height so much. Women are biologically programmed to hunt out the best genes in men. Getting ripped doesn't say much about your genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:22 PM
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This is something only a fat person living in the modern west would convince themselves. There's nothing at all unhealthy about the right pic. His body fat % isn't too low at all. It's probably 8-12%. And maintaining those muscles requires serious calories, he's eating plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:20 PM
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>Why are you speaking about men’s paid labor whilst ignoring women’s round the clock unpaid labor? Because it doesn't exist. >No man would be here if his mummy didn’t gestate, birth, nurse, and raise him to adulthood while on call for 18-25 years of his helpless, dependent life. Motherhood is paid for. With men's taxes, child support, marriage etc. It is not "unpaid" in any way. Men are forced to pay for everything. From the child's education, to its healthcare, to its every need and whim. But h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 03:02 PM
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>There are female police officers protecting you, female farmers and factory workers providing you resources Lol. They're an extreme minority. Female police officers are completely useless. Have you seen one try to restrain even another woman? They're physically incapable. Waitresses bringing drinks that men have produced and transported, in a building built by men, with everything inside said building built by men, isn't much of a contribution. >what do women get from men as a group that they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:52 PM
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>We all live in a society built with the collective effort of our citizenry, men and women included, and so we can all benefit from each other’s labor. But this doesn't apply to either sex or reproduction. ie the chief thing's women provide to society and men. It only applies to the chief things men provide. Money is a social construct. Paying for something means nothing. It's all a product of how we organise society, what we make legal, what we subsidise, what we price-control, and so on. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:49 PM
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Of course they are, men provide them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:41 PM
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Yes, for free. Money is a social construct. Which is given to women for free (from men's taxes) and for doing fuck easy jobs. Also, social housing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:14 PM
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Women who openly hate men all live in houses built by men. Men need sex. Only women can provide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:36 AM
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Everything infringes on the freedom and autonomy of others. Every single societal provision. >And since those others are women who many if not most men regard as accessories, supplemental aids to men instead of fully realized human beings with their own rights and freedom, it’s clear that men feel women exist to serve them. This is projection. It's women who view men as slaves obligated to serve them. That's largely what society is built around. Name one thing women desire from men that they can…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:25 PM
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That's fine. But the same should be true of resources, labour and protection. But women are entitled to all those things from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:19 PM
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Agreed. It's disgusting OF is allowed to be advertised on sites like Youtube and Instagram, which are obviously full of under-18s. Snapchat's feed is full of porn stars and OF whores as well. It's grooming.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:06 PM
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Porn stars can have OF accounts as well, and do. OF has basically destroyed porn, as its led to huge hoeflation. Why would a whore fuck a guy for a grand when she can make the same amount taking a selfie? >while plenty of of women don't earn that much, a majority dont, i think men just don't like the idea of women having agency and a basically limitless ability to generate money if they manage to get big on of. Yes. Men don't like a system which denies them sex while waving sex in front of their…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:05 PM
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>This is not true. On a earnings to time invest scale OF is infinitely more profitable. True, but OF whores aren't monetising their time, they're monetising their soul. They're trading their dignity for cash. Also, most OF whores make almost nothing. They sell their souls for nothing, and then they're trapped. Because their gash is all over the internet forever. It's like joining the mafia. They may as well keep doing it because there's no real loss to doing so, the loss is deciding to do it to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:01 PM
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>Or how a fat ugly guy on the couch eating cheetos critiques women in a model show. Which universe is this? Men don't watch "model shows".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:58 PM
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OF is no different to men befriending old women and scamming them out of their life savings. Men go to prison for doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:57 PM
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Because they're disgusting whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:55 PM
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Nope, nor would I, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:03 PM
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I'd never get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:03 PM
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A tall, attractive man wouldn't give up on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:41 PM
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Why would you not want to be the one making the choice? I don't get it. Also, you won't be forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:55 PM
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No, it's natural. Porn and reality are two completely different things. When you're porn-brained, you often can't even have sex. Because you can't get hard to real women. So it doesn't logically follow that it would make you attracted to more women IRL. Not that porn addiction isn't a thing. But it's not a new thing. And doesn't explain any of the recent changes in male/female sexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:58 PM
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They were questions. I don't know any straight, "older" men who use terms like "get the bag", "grindset" and "masculine energy". And you didn't respond to anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:02 PM
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Why do you talk like a Tiktok 14 year old girl? You can't be both feminine and masculine. They're not computer games. You can't complete one and then move on to the other. If women are now more masculine, they're less feminine. They can't be successfully both. Society runs on the backs of men. Men contribute far more to society than women do. You're on a site built by men, on the internet built by men, using electricity built by men, on a laptop/phone built by men. How are women superior to men?…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:47 PM
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So, you're a gay guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:46 PM
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Almost all of the things you listed, besides having empathy for women (which is, observably, wrong) are not things women are supposed to value for men for. This is where you're going wrong. Your whole list is basically traits which women are supposed to have, and be valued for. Like most feminists, you're willfully oblivious to what men do for women in society. Because these things are done indirectly, and you don't have to interact with these men, or offer them anything in return. Men build, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:45 PM
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Women approach attractive men. They just do it subtly. They put themselves in their vicinity, start conversations with them, eye them up, remember details about them, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:43 PM
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Have you tried showering?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:41 PM
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It's not an "approach" if the other person doesn't even know it's an approach. It's just starting a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:40 PM
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And men don't want to see women all approaching the same 1% of guys. Both sexes would hate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:39 PM
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Precisely. Approaching, and therefore being able to select, is perhaps the biggest advantage men have in dating. Women, generally, can only select from the men who approach/pursue them. Think what an advantage this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:36 PM
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There is no male equivalent to this. Being "porn-brained" doesn't make men not attracted to a vast % of young women. This is just a consequence of decadence and the removal of controls on female sexual behaviour. When women don't need to trade their sex for what they need/want from men, and society doesn't demonise being a slut, this is how they will behave. It's their nature. Chimps have harems, with dominant males having any female in the group they want, and submissive males having nothing. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:33 PM
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We're all animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:02 PM
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Yes they are. It's just done more indirectly, so you can pretend it isn't happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:55 AM
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Males pursue females in just about every species of animal. It really depends on how you "chase". If you simp or harass, you've failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:54 AM
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Medicine says so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:12 AM
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>That if I am cautious around strange men in an isolated setting, I should hate men in other settings? Yes, That you should be morally consistent. You can't, on on the one hand, hate, demonise and punish men, while also exploiting men for everything you need and want from them. That's clearly hypocritical. > How is being blindly trusting in that scenario taking accountability for anything? Why is that fair? Why do you believe I owe blind trust even up to the point it means doing so I could be ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:00 PM
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You don't know a single thing about me. And the angry one appears to be you, as you're the one resorting to ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:52 PM
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It's a fact. Evidently, one you can't refute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:38 PM
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Notably, you didn't answer my question. No it isn't, at all. Men protect you. In every way. They built your house and everything in it. Your car, roads, street lights, prisons, they're the police, military, firemen, security guards, prison guards, good Samaritans, and so on, and so on. You don't take accountability for anything, nor does your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:37 PM
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Most female comedy is dumb, gross humour. Either talking about their sex life or their vagina. It's like some female throwback to 50s male club comics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:26 AM
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This is just the opposite of the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:25 AM
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Men don't just use humour to impress women. 90% of male interaction is humour-based. It's making fun of each other, themselves and everything. Whereas women's interaction, isn't, at all. Most female interaction is walking on eggshells and being afraid of saying something that could offend other women. Men actually censor their humour around women, to conform to this sensibility, and not offend them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:24 AM
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Or maybe you have strong gender biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:22 AM
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Funny people don't call themselves funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:21 AM
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Most don't really do self-deprecation. Women in general don't. They view themselves as victims too much to do it properly. Most females comedians do some gentle self-deprecation and then some savage deprecation of men. And they're usually terrified to do any self-deprecation of their own gender, which is another stark difference between men and women. Women have in-group preference, they don't like offending other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:20 AM
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Women like "haha I'm drunk", "haha my vagina", "haha I'm a slut" jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:18 AM
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Not generally mean, offensive rudeness directed at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:17 AM
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>Obviously, if you often encounter different people as you walk through the woods, it's much less likely to happen. What? > That's why this scenario assumes that the woman is alone in the woods with either a man or a bear. That's the exact situation I'm talking about. Walking through the woods, alone. Deep in the woods, with nobody in earshot. The other person is alone. You pass each other. You're strangers and have never seen one another before. NOBODY FUCKING CARES. Because normal people aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:52 AM
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So, you're okay with hating men when it conveniences you (in your deluded, misandrist mind), and also okay with exploiting men for everything you need from them at all times. If you're going to hate, and discriminate against men, you should at least be consistent. And forego male labour, male protection and male taxes/resources. That would be fair, wouldn't it? I know why. Because they're infantilised always-victims, and because feminist propaganda has encouraged them to be even more allergic to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:44 AM
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Why? I'm not a child. And I can't, I need them for sex. Unlike women can with men, I can't enjoy the fruits of women while hating them and pretending I'm avoiding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:19 AM
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It's extremely rare and exceptional true crime. Do you know what the female homicide rate is in the west? Take a guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:54 PM
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Trump's opponent was literally a diversity hire. ie she only had the job because of overt misandry. Trump was absolutely not the sexist choice inn the last election. Not to mention that the Democrats openly support anti-male policies. While Trump and co don't. Biden says he'll choose a woman as his running mate
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:53 PM
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Not nearly as much as women harm children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:50 PM
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Men don't harm women like they harm men. Men show extreme deference and chivalry towards women. They go out of their way not to harm them, and to protect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:50 PM
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I genuinely wonder whether people like you ever leave the house. I walk through the woods all the time. And pass people. They don't care, man or woman. Nor do I. 50% of the time, they have a dog. And people are more concerned as to whether the dog might be aggressive. JFL that any woman would choose a fucking bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:49 PM
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>I feel like the man vs bear thing is like hypothetical question of do you throw the switch so the train runs over a child or a group of adults. I hate answering the question on principle. I don't want to meet a strange man or a bear in the woods. JFL that you actually think this is the non-misandrist answer. >No sex offender should have a chance to repeat the crime. Then women should actually report their crimes, and follow through with prosecutions. Because that's the #1 reason sex offenders a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:47 PM
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Women's safety is provided by men. It comes at the expense of men's safety and physical welfare. Women don't run to other women to protect them. They run to the nearest man. Or the nearest building a man built. Or the nearest public service men's taxes funded.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:46 PM
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Women are less financially well off because they earn less money. Men are much worse off after divorce, the suicide rates for men, post-divorce, are astronomical. The standard outcome of a divorce is the man being made homeless, having his children taken from him and him being turned into a debt slave for the next decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:44 PM
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Men pose almost no danger to women. The female homicide rate is around 6 per million. The likelihood of being struck by lightning is around 1 in a million. That's how rare serious male violence against women is. As for "sexual assault", we know this is massively exaggerated by women. Because we know how much homicide is exaggerated by women. Then there's the fact that men protect women from just about everything, and provide women, almost entirely, with their luxurious, highly civilised existenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:43 PM
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Half of people cheat anyway. But, if men could cheat easily, that would mean they could get sex easily. And therefore probably wouldn't be in a relationship to begin with. Or would be with someone hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:08 AM
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Why don't you just go abroad? Cheaper, more real and a lot less shameful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 10:41 AM
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It's still far more testosterone than a woman has. And women have low estrogen etc. Males today have far less testosterone than in the past, and it doesn't seem to be helping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 08:13 AM
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They only have relatively low testosterone. And that causes its own hormonal problems. Men have just as many hormonal problems to deal with, it's just unacknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:34 AM
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You seem to have responded to the wrong person, as nothing you've typed bears any relation to anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:14 AM
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I don't care about you, I'm talking about men and women. Not American, so don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:10 AM
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Really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:09 AM
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And women display anger more often than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:29 AM
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Perhaps because men have to deal with more physically threatening behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:27 AM
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We have our equivalent hormone problems. Namely, our raging testosterone, and wanting to fuck everything that walks most of every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:24 AM
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Most people don't ask people out. That isn't how things work. They just talk, and things evolve. At least, that's how things work in my world, and with everyone I've known. Also, she's free to ask men out. You should have asked her how many men she's had sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:20 PM
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No, just go abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:25 PM
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There is no "stolen valour" because I never mentioned myself. Taxes and labour are two different things, I didn't conflate them, you did. But you seem to be deflecting from the gender component. I don't know why. What relevance does the income, or education, of the lion's share of tax payers (still male) have? I didn't demean education, just useless education.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:20 PM
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Not at all, as I explained it. Something like 80-90% of consumer spending is done by women. Just as a man benefits much more from being in a relationship and having regular sex, even though both the man and woman are having the same amount of sex. Because men and women are not the same. They don't desire the same things, they don't provide the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:17 PM
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So, you're happy with returning to a pre-industrial paradigm? >women start accepting either marrying people who make less or just not marrying. And how does society function when women aren't marrying? And reproducing. It's currently being mitigated with large-scale immigration. But, in the last 10 years, women have taken this non-participation in the official sexual market place to new extremes. Which is leading to very unhappy and demotivated men. The point is that, whatever you think of the "…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:14 PM
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No, I'm the guy who claims the woman I responded to's education has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:09 PM
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No, they didn't. It isn't propaganda. It wasn't the "upper class". It was the middle class. Which actually existed back then. And you could easily become middle class if you applied yourself, as social mobility also existed. Houses were affordable, jobs were well paid, unions were strong, and so on. A man could support his family on a single pay cheque, and provide them with a comfortable middle class life. Just ask your parents or grandparents. Ask them how much their house cost, and then ask t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:08 PM
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>why is that a big deal? Why is the majority of females only having sex with a minority of males a problem? Because all men want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:03 PM
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>And I had merit scholarships to cover the rest Where do you think that money comes from? >Men did not pay for my college Yes, they did. They also paid for your entire schooling, subsidised your healthcare, and paid for everything else you relied on throughout your childhood. That's how society functions. > Now I make more than the average salary for men in the US. What's the relevance? We aren't talking about individuals, we're talking about groups, about sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:56 PM
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They "shit on" a system which steals their money and labour to fund indoctrination factories which turn young women into man-hating narcissist who contribute nothing to society? Wacky. You'd think an educated person might be able to crack that riddle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:31 AM
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Are women paying 60% less income tax than men? – Full Fact Yes, they do. They're forced to value it, and pay for it. You didn't pay for a college tuition working a part time student job lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:20 AM
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>Yes, we should go back to the majority of the country being illiterate. Universities don't teach people to be literate. Literacy rates were raised long before half the population started going to university. And people read less now than they have since the advent of the printing press. >Which it does, people with BS make more money on average than people who don't. "BS", apt. In case you hadn't noticed, the economy has turned to shit. Since about 1980. The vast majority of people are earning, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:19 AM
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It's a small % of men paying taxes and doing highly valuable jobs? Lol okay. Universities are about two thirds female now. They're dick hopping on a small % of men. Because hypergamy. >And what about tons of work women do that is required to keep society functioning, including all the imported things made by people in other countries, quite often women? Doesn't count? No. Because it's men doing the lion's share of labour in those countries as well. >Also, thanks to our society women are pushed a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:12 AM
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You appear to have responded to the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:06 AM
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Where did I mention anyone earning the same? But even in situations where the man and woman are earning the same, it's usually the woman benefiting. Because the same dynamics are at play. Men spend far more on women than women spend on men. And women spend far more in general than men do. And then, when they have kids, the woman typically works less and the man typically works more, which is obviously reflected in their earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:05 AM
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Why, oh why, do people always try to rebuff facts about demographics with anecdotes? I don't care about you, you're irrelevant. Just as I don't care about me, I didn't mention me. I didn't mention any individual (besides the person I was responding to, for effect). College is disproportionately full of females. The workforce, de facto, is disproportionately full of males. The hard and essential jobs, massively more so. So yes, females spending years at university studying useless shit are absolu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:03 AM
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Women don't pay taxes, as a group, men do. Are women paying 60% less income tax than men? – Full Fact According to your comment history, you're still at college. So I'm not sure how you have a high-paying job as well. You also aren't studying Philosophy, but likely something with some practical use. For educated people, you really struggle with some very basic equations and facts. If 62% of Master's Degrees are attained by females, who is working, during those years? And if ~80% of primary child…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:59 AM
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I didn't mention myself once. Yes, it's lovely to have a prolonged adolescence. But someone has to pay for it. And when you look down on the men doing so, you reveal yourself as a deeply spoiled individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:51 AM
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The women don't do it, the men do. Which is the point. Why should people have to work to subsidise people indulging their interests and prolonging their adolescence? You can read Philosophy books on your own time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:49 AM
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>No one is talking about attraction. >hierarchies of male sexual value
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:57 PM
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All men value education, they're forced to, as they're the ones who have to pay for it, via their taxes and labour. While you were spending years at university, partying, dick hopping and reading Camus, your male peers were slaving, keeping the lights on, providing you with food, water, electricity, and so on, and subsidising your "education" with their taxes. Your "education" has no value, to anyone other than yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:50 PM
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They're stupid and destructive preferences, which are contributing to the destruction of society. It isn't just about proximity, young women openly come out and say they want men who are "educated" and make at least as much money as them. This doesn't work, when 60% of people going to university are female. Education is supposed to lead to higher pay, and higher pay is supposed to enable you to support a family. But this doesn't work with women, because they don't want to support men, they want …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:45 PM
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I'd be so impressed with a woman with a Philosophy degree who could fix a plug or contribute anything useful to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:42 PM
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Women are far more interested in a man's "male sexual market value" than men are in a woman's. Men don't care, they only care about what they're physically attracted to. They don't care if other men, and women, think she's a hog. Meanwhile, women care deeply about what other women think about their man. They just judge on different things than appearance. Because men and women are not the same. As for your second sentence, there are as many ugly, fat women being banged by their husbands, daily, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:49 AM
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Women don't watch porn anywhere near as much as men do. Not what you consider porn anyway. Social media is porn to women. That fries their brains like porn fries men's. Men are sexually driven, women are socially driven.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:54 AM
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Paha. Women, all of whom pain their faces every day and devote their lives to their appearance, are less impacted by "hierarchies of sexual market value", really?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:54 AM
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Of course men want relationships. And nuclear families. Both have been decimated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:13 PM
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The stats say otherwise. Sex is "gender neutral", in principle and law. But, in reality, it's controlled by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:11 PM
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You said men get those things. They don't, that's the point. They're things men have to earn, and are increasingly in very short supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:35 PM
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I don't think your circles were representative. >What seventeen year old is not having sex because his girlfriend is drunk. Lots. Again, I think you're minimising how much feminism has taken a hold of universities and school. And, particularly, social media. Which kids grow up on today. Males of all ages are terrified of being called a rapist. It's just about the worst thing that can happen to a male. Just as women will go out of their way to protect themselves from a scenario in which they can …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:58 PM
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The amount of times very stupid people respond to points about groups by personalising things, lol. We're talking about society here, at the macro level. The last thing women want is to be independent, they love society when it's benefiting them, but as soon as men want something from society, it's "you don't deserve it, you didn't earn it". FYI, it's all men who pay for the cops and firemen. Men are the ones who pay taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:54 PM
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Lol no they don't. Because men don't have any sexual power.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:51 PM
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It really isn't. Let me correct myself, women can still do drunk sex. But, for men, it's a huge risk. It's not worth the risk of being called/convicted as a rapist just to get your dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:51 PM
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I am logical. >Oh are there laws that keep men from having sex? No? Yes. Buying sex is illegal. Commodifying sex is illegal. Sexual harassment and sexual assault are severe crimes, and the bar for them is so low a Borrower could hurdle it, and getting lower with every passing day. >Are there laws that keep men from getting dates? No? Yes. Taxation. Stealing men's money to give it to women, cripples men's ability to get dates. Men earn far more resources, and women value men for their resources. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:48 PM
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Show you a study that men are exponentially stronger than women? Are you serious? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:43 PM
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Are women paying 60% less income tax than men? – Full Fact As a group, women don't pay taxes. They're a huge tax burden. >Any argument that goes "men should get more because firefighters" is more sensibly stated as "firefighters should get more because firefighters" because it's the firefighters doing the actual work. Nope, because we're discussing gender here, in case you hadn't noticed. FireMEN hugely disproportionately benefit women, and hugely disproportionately sacrifice and exploit men. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:42 PM
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Everyone is on welfare. Taxes paid for your education, healthcare, police protection and a billion other things. Men pay these taxes back, and then some. Women don't. Are women paying 60% less income tax than men? – Full Fact As a group, women don't pay tax, they consume taxes. Men's taxes. >Fortunately for you, women’s preferences aren’t uniform and my yuck is someone else’s yum. This is largely nonsense, as proven by the number of Tinder matches men get. If this were true, every man would get …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:39 PM
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So, "people" should be commandeered, in the same way, to provide sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:35 PM
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They don't, as a group. They're a huge tax burden. Men pay taxes, women absorb welfare. Are women paying 60% less income tax than men? – Full Fact
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:14 PM
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There's no logic to your post. It's talking in circles, around the fundamental points of importance. You're saying it's "entitled" of men to expect sex from women (which doesn't happen in society), but not entitled of women to expect men to protect them (which does happen in society). Surely the entitled ones are the ones receiving the thing they want and not the ones not receiving the thing they want-- as they're literally entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 02:07 AM
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I don't see the relevance. They're paid because that's how we've organised society (and they're paid from men's taxes). We've also organised society to deny men sex/romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 02:03 AM
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>Are men gonna suddenly just stop working? If there's no reward, they'll work the bare minimum, or not at all. >They still have to pay for their own lives LMAO Not really. Any more than women have to. Benefits exist, subsistence exists. If women can leach off the state (ie men), so can men. But, as stated, that won't work, so society will just collapse. Western men have already stopped working, to a large extent, just as women have stopped having babies, and this is being mitigated by mass immig…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 02:00 AM
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No they aren't. It's a small minority. And they're utterly useless and incompetent. I can show you a hundred videos displaying how incapable they are, due to their lack of physical strength. They can't even restrain another woman, let alone a man. Here's 2 female cops and 1 male cop vs 2 men: Manchester Airport: New footage shows moments before man kicked in head by police officer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:54 AM
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>Men get sex, babies No they don't. Women have absolute control over both of those things. Neither can be commodified or exploited in any way. And women are failing to meet demand for either. Male sexlessness has at least doubled in the last 10 years, and fertility rates are through the floor. >service, validation and purpose Lol. You mean they get to be slaves? Men get no validation. They get their problems and desires dismissed. Women stealing from men is not "economic freedom".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:46 AM
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You're really minimising how much "slut shaming" has decreased, and how much females today promote sluttery. Girls used demonise other girls for being sluts. And it was done somewhat discretely. And drunk sex was normalised. Now it's pathologised, drunk = rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:42 AM
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There is no "economic freedom", it's predicated on enslaving men to provide women with everything they need, for nothing in return. And it is due to social media. Which globalised dating overnight. It meant that, instead of selecting sexual partners from the few dozen men they encounter in their day to day life, girls are selecting sexual partners from millions of men-- and on a medium which incentivises them selecting based much more on looks/status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:37 AM
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>Women are entitled to safety, just not at the expense of men. That's the only way women can be entitled to safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:48 PM
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>Cops and firefighters. So, men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:47 PM
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Cry elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:00 PM
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No you don't. You use public services and welfare, which is funded by men's taxes. Yes, they are. Most women find at least 80% of men undesirable, for a start. I think you mean that women find the unemployed least desirable lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:18 PM
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Rape is beyond trivial in war. Who cares? You're comparing taking a bullet to taking a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:12 PM
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Yes, a nobody. Do you know who Joseph Lister was? Alexander Fleming? William T.G. Morton? Jonas Salk? Men are responsible for 99% of modern medicine. They also build every hospital and almost every piece of equipment in every hospital. Yes, we know what women's biological value is. It's only feminists who deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:11 PM
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"Involved" lol. It's men who have created modern medicine and prevented infant deaths. I don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:54 PM
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They didn't. They also didn't fight to go to war or be conscripted. They fought for the right to vote, which they had, in the UK, after WW1, and through WW2. But didn't want the commensurate responsibility of dying for their country.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:49 PM
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Instagram yes. Myspace and Facebook, no. Girls weren't anywhere near as hoe-ey or narcissistic back in the Myspace and Facebook days.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:48 PM
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The truth being offensive to you doesn't stop it being the truth. Also, you're strawmanning hugely. Nobody mentioned living in huts. I mentioned the here and now. Men can live very comfortably while doing very little, in developed societies. What are they supposed to desire? They have all the basics and a mountain of luxuries. There's no reason for them to slave their lives away in jobs they hate. There's also the civilising effects of people being lazier and more comfortable in general. Men in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:47 PM
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The fact you think women deserve commendation for doing a small percentage of the jobs men had been doing for decades/centuries/millennia prior, while men went off to be slaughtered like cattle, says a lot about a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:48 PM
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So what you're saying is men did all the hardest and most dangerous jobs, and women did the easiest and safest jobs. As it's always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:46 PM
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Naturally, you go to rarefied and elite examples of men doing work they're passionate about. Not the millions of men who slave in jobs they hate. Tesla was very likely gay. Einstein had loads of women, was married multiple times and had several children. So yes, he was very much motivated by women and family. Men don't slave in shit jobs they hate "to better society" lmao. Yeah, a miniscule % of men in elite jobs do work they're passionate about and which is rewarding in myriad ways. Binmen, plu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:34 PM
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How? Men being motivated to support their families reflects negatively on men? lol. The mental gymnastics people will do to deny basic facts and elementary biology-- and not offend women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:27 PM
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How are they hurting themselves? You don't seem to know how men function and what motivates them. Women and family motivate men. That's why they work, slave and aspire. Take those motivations away and men would prefer to have their time to themselves, subsist in a small flat and play computer games all day. Have you seen how many single men live? There's a reason men organised society the way they did. Marriage and the nuclear family. Partly to motivate men to be labour and tax slaves. It isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:24 PM
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Weird, I've been living off NEETbux for years. But they don't have to check out completely. They can subsist. Men subsisting isn't going to result in a productive society. And, to emigrate, a man only needs to work a few years. He can retire at 30 and emigrate. Society runs on the backs of men. Men subsisting is like growing up with a single Mother who doesn't work and smokes weed all day. You'll survive, but you won't have a happy time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:21 PM
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You pay them because you can. Because it's lawful for their bodies and labour to be commodified and exploited, and their labour is specifically price-controlled. This isn't the case for women's bodies, for sex, for reproduction. And money is a social construct. It doesn't mean anything. You doing a worthless job which doesn't benefit men in any way, and being paid for it, then paying a man to perform an essential job, is not a fair society. Also, taxes. Men pay the vast majority of taxes, women …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:18 PM
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Yes, it is. They built your house, provided it with electricity, water, heating, gas, internet. They designed and built every household appliance you have. Your TV, your phone, your computer. They build the roads you drive on, the car you drive in, they mine the oil that provides your car with petrol. They build the petrol station and transport it. They built this site. Without men you'd be living in the woods, dying of Polio at 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:11 PM
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Yes, they do. Everything in your house, including your house, was provided by men. The internet you're on was provided by men. The site you're on. The electricity you're using.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:06 PM
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Are we in the same conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:04 PM
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She's vapid, narcissistic thot posing like she's hot shit. Tiktok is cultural poison. And the same Tiktok thots indulging in the "trend" are the same Tiktok thots who will be making videos about "harassment" in the workplace and men being "creeps".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:03 PM
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Men don't want AI sex bots. Men strive, slave and earn to either attract women, keep a woman or support their families. Without access to women, they have no motivation to. Men can live very modestly. Or, better still, they can emigrate to somewhere women are accessible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:25 AM
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Nope, men. Only 25-33% of able-bodied men went off to war, in the UK. At most.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:23 AM
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The peak was about a third of able-bodied males serving in the armed forces. In the UK. in 1944. Which means two thirds of able-bodied males were working regular jobs. The "women filled in all the male jobs" is a feminist myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:23 AM
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Robots built by whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:20 AM
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Men slaughtered, women most affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:20 AM
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Although this is obviously 99% wrong, there is some truth in it. The options are there for men. They just need to go abroad, and benefit from the same expansion of the dating pool that women have (only more so). And men can control their reproduction (albeit not nearly as easily as women can). They can avoid marriage, kids and cohabitation, and all the legal consequences they entail. But, for some reason, men would rather whine than do these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:11 AM
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>Except, we live in an age where women no longer have to get married for survival Yeah, because men are enslaved to provide you with everything you need and desire. Men's value is exploited, women's value is protected. Hence the disparity, and women having all the power. Men provide all the things required for "survival". Women provide reproduction and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:05 AM
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The average man can't get a solitary match on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:03 AM
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So, just be a zillionaire and hire a prostitute? Do you have any idea how much money you need to even have a "sugar baby", in the west? When girls can make thousands of pounds per month posting casual selfies on OnlyFans?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:03 AM
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Prostitution is illegal almost everywhere, and cheap, safe, discrete and accessible nowhere. If abortions were as accessible as prostitution, women would be vocally complaining about how restrictive access is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:00 AM
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The proof is in the polls, which suggest that male sexlessness and singleness has at least doubled in the last 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:59 AM
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He's in Uganda, and 50 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:57 AM
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They build, maintain, protect and pay for everything you own.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:34 AM
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They haven't. It's a myth. Not all men went to war. Only around 25% did. The rest stayed home and did all the hard work. Women helped, that is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:32 AM
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This is your example? When exclusively men went off to fight and die? And the remaining men did the lion's share of "maintaining society"? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:31 AM
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Relationship? Probably not. But checking out of working and upholding society? I think they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:29 AM
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Yeah, they cry all the way to a lawyer because the law is on their side. It speaks to how disadvantaged men are that it's normalised that women have legal access to men's wallets, for kids the man didn't want, but it's taboo for the man to have proof a child is his.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:17 PM
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I think the most obvious and respectful way is for the man to get a paternity test discretely. Why does he need to "ask" the woman? That notion is offensive. As for your suggestion, women don't even ask men if they want kids before getting pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:15 PM
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My theory is that parents, and parental dynamics, are directly responsible for most peoples' gender views, male or female. Or, at least, their perspective of their parents, and their dynamics. I love my parents but my Mum is completely dominant, and always has been, which is why I don't buy into feminism, and it lies, at all. And she's in her 60s. Most of my Grandmas were far from shrinking violets as well, so too my sister (she dominates my Dad). I don't think it's really about feminist/conserv…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 09:03 PM
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Men get obsessed about height because women are obsessed about height. Men wouldn't care about height if women didn't. Men want to be attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:58 AM
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Of course they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:23 PM
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I meant option B) is the selfish choice. I didn't even reference your choice in my original response. You seem very defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 10:05 AM
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You don't know any happy virgin men. You may know some who pretend to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 10:03 AM
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I have a lot in common with one of my Uncles. My Mum has said I remind her of him. Except, ironically, he's taller than me. And no, I think A is the worse choice. It means you're putting your happiness ahead of your son's.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:53 AM
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That's more extreme than OP's choice. Accusing men of rape is the female equivalent of rape. So it's the equivalent of having a serial rapist for a son.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:50 AM
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A man can't have a fulfilling life without sex and women. You have no idea how strong the male sex drive is. You'd be choosing your happiness over your son's.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:15 AM
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"(I have one uncle who is only 5' 6")" It's very possible then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:13 AM
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You can control your daughter being fat, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:11 AM
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It doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:10 AM
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OP didn't describe what feminists call "benevolent sexism"-- which is just misandry. It's sexism which benefits women. That would be something like protecting women from going to war. He described standard sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:09 AM
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"I think the term is benevolent misogyny, or something." That isn't misogyny, it's misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:07 AM
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Ask your future children if it matters. Would you have liked to have grown up with your Mum being a whore all over the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:56 AM
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No, the one who will make most money from divorcing, and get the house and custody of the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:53 AM
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The person most likely to initiate divorce is the person most likely to benefit from divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:38 PM
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What about other forms of cheating? Emotional, talking to other people etc? Of course men are much more sexually driven than women, they're more likely to cheat more in terms of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:35 PM
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90% of rapists aren't men could be why. Women massively overreport and men massively underreport. It's a majority, but not an overwhelming majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:34 PM
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It really isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:59 PM
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I'm pretty sure you can do that legally, without marriage. Biology forced women to be sexually exclusive/chaste. Sex meant a high probability of pregnancy, for women, up until the '60s. Marriage was about women and children being taken care of, financially. The man got sex out of it, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:57 PM
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What do you mean by "less complicated"? Financially? Less complicated because you're legally entitled to his money? Because there's no reason to marry, and it's a huge risk. If you have more assets/income, or your partner spends more than you do, anyway. The whole purpose of marriage was to enable men to provide for women and children. So that women and children didn't grow up in poverty. But women can work and make their own money now. Not to mention there's all manner of other welfare programs…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:18 AM
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That's the purpose of marriage. To share resources. That's what it legally enforces. You can be together without marriage. So can you answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:52 AM
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That's an extended family, not a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:33 AM
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Why? What would be the point? Besides getting his resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:33 AM
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This is true. There's no reason to get married unless you're having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:32 AM
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Being a slave to screaming demons seems empty to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:32 AM
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And men provide some sex. Both are exceptions and minorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:10 AM
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No, they can't. Because it's illegal to commodify sex or reproduction in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:37 PM
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Women have contributed little, and are "talked about" far more than they should be. That's how infantilism works. Women are like children, who get every minor accomplishment fawned over and elevated. While the adults do all the important things. Growing up entails taking accountability and acknowledging harsh reality. Neither of which you seem inclined to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:47 PM
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Men are providing everything. Look around you. Men build, maintain, create and protect everything, and pay for the vast majority of things. Everything useful you own was built by a man. In return, women are supposed to provide children and sex. But, instead, we're importing children via mass immigration, and men are going without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:06 PM
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Lol. Who built your house and everything in it? Who protects you while you sleep? Who built, created, maintained and paid for everything in society? Who pays about 80% of taxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:05 PM
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UK overall weekly hours of work by gender 2024 | Statista Men work 33% more hours, doing much harder jobs. 90% of chores lmao. Men do most of the traditionally male chores, which don't even get acknowledged. Such as taking care of the car, emptying the bins, driving, DIY, anything which requires the remotest physical strength. And women today are more reluctant to do chores than ever before, and more demanding of men to do them, and childcare. Meaning men have to do more of that than ever before…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:36 PM
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"" According to TUC research around analysis of 17,000 people’s salaries, it was found that men get a ‘pay rise’ of 21% when they become fathers, versus full-time working mothers facing an 11% pay cut."" Meaning that men work more, women work less, and most of the money earned by men is spent on the woman. Yeah, that's a real benefit to the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:32 PM
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Of course they're happy, they have men providing them everything they want while providing men, and society, nothing in return. Who wouldn't be happy with such an arrangement?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:30 PM
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"Raising children is expensive, and the financial strain is often disproportionately placed on women." Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:29 PM
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It's not, it's unveiling something lol. I don't think any man would care, so long as the woman kept up with the hair removal. And you can get it permanently removed nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:42 AM
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No, biologically, women should go for the man with most resources. The fact you don't even acknowledge this illustrates how spoiled modern women are. They can easily, and legally, extract everything they want from men, while providing nothing in return. As such, they don't even need to care about the primary things they need men for. Would you choose Chad over a home, over electricity, over heating, over food, over protection? No. But you can, because all those things are provided to you, by men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:24 PM
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Men don't play the victim perpetually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:09 PM
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"Nothing I said about abusers or victims of abuse was specific to any gender." "There's this naive view of abuse where the abuser is just some dumb guy who can't control his emotions" "Another difference between abusers and incels is that abusers" "A lot of incels don't, even if they might have personalities which would make them latent abusers." Yeah, you didn't specify gender at all, lol. You might think you're refuting feminist dogma, I don't know, but you're accepting feminist paradigms, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:04 PM
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Yeah, because men and women are different. Why do so many people struggle with this? Men shave more. They shave daily. Women shave their whatevers once a week at most, and most less than that. And men obviously keep their hair shorter, which means they cut it more often. You're really reaching with this. Removing something isn't the same as adding something. Men are naturally much hairier than women. Women remove their hair to exaggerate this difference, and therefore exaggerate their femininity…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:55 PM
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Women don't. That's kind of the point. I think the problem in your clip is that men think of the "victim" as a man, while those women think of him as a woman (or pretend to). Women generally don't care if men are aggressive to other men. They do care if they're aggressive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:47 PM
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I don't really understand this equivalence. Men making a choice makes women legally being allowed to enslave and steal from them justifiable? Lets accept your thesis. Men and women are not the same. Women are supposed to be valued for their youth, fertility and beauty. That's biology. Men aren't. Men are supposed to be valued for their resources, labour and protection. That's biology. That's supposed to be the trade. The problem is that what men are valued for is handed to women on a silver plat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:45 PM
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Women aren't swiping on Tinder based on how "aggressive" a guy looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:31 PM
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I agree that the "bad boy" shit is overblown. It's more about being confident. But confidence does overlap with being a "bad boy" much more than it does with being a nice guy. That's the problem. It's a really delicate operation, for a man, trying to be confident, but not obnoxious, assertive but not aggressive, funny but not offensive, have "banter" without insulting. Men are told so many contradictory things by women, it's just too much work. Consequently, the choice becomes either be a simp o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:30 PM
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And, on average, women are much more hotter than men. Ergo...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:23 PM
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It's amusing how every other female has a story of being abused, but almost none have a story of being abusive. Yet polling data shows that women are every bit as abusive as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:22 PM
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Single Mums should be hated. They're a scourge on society and responsible for a huge percentage of violence, crime, abuse, suicide, mental health problems, poverty, everything. All these things are strongly associated with single Mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:19 PM
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This is feminist nonsense. Most abuse is reciprocal. ie most women claiming they've been abused are also abusers themselves. There are very few angels in the world. Relationships become "toxic" and, usually, both parties do abusive things. And most of these relationships involve stupid people. Not highly intelligent, Ted Bundy-esque types. And, of course, we know that women are much more socially adept and manipulative than men are, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:18 PM
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It's not about low or high standards, it's about shallow standards. Women choosing men based on looks, money, height, status. Rather than values, character and things which matter. I don't know what your video is supposed to evidence. Most straight men are repulsed at the idea of any form of intimacy with another man. Including a man in a lineup for a dating show like that is disrespectful and gross. And what the guy did is hilarious and fair. The women popped their balloons because they wanted …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:15 PM
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The two really aren't equivalent. And men remove their hair as much as women do, so this is a gotcha fail. Most men shave their faces every single day, and cut their monthly. They also cut their nails. It's really not equivalent to painting a synthetic mask on your face to disguise what you look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:12 PM
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If you can easily orgasm by yourself but not from either oral or penetrative sex, the problem is with you. Sex is essential for most men. We have to to orgasm like we have to eat. Even if it's boring, we still have to do it. It's a physical urge.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:06 PM
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It really isn't that different. The two overlap a lot, borderline personality just incorporates typically female traits and behaviours, while antisocial personality disorder incorporates typically male ones "As for the conviction rates, men overwhelmingly commit the majority of crime of every type but prostitution" Again, this nonsense. Women commit lots of crimes more than men. Often, though, they're simply not considered crimes at all, such a paternity fraud, or they're crimes which aren't pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:04 PM
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This is comparing what women have admitted they've done to men saying what they can imagine doing. You're right, there is no comparison. One is exponentially worse than the other. But even taking your imaginary scenario, not at all. Women making false allegations to friends absolutely destroys men's lives. In the same way that rapes destroy women's lives. Most men would much rather get raped by a woman than have her say he raped her. It's the male equivalent. Being branded a rapist (or a paedoph…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:56 AM
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There are far, far more rape convictions than convictions for false reports of rape. There are almost none of the latter. And the #1 reason for a rape not being prosecuted or convicted is the woman either not reporting it or choosing to drop out of the process at some stage. But then, this could also be a reason false reports don't get prosecuted
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:53 AM
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Most of this is incorrect. Sociopathy and psychopathy (the same thing, by the way) are just characterised differently in women, often as borderline personality disorder or some other much softer diagnosis. And while men are obviously much physically stronger and more aggressive, by nature. There are countless other factors. Both men and women are both heavily biased towards women, in almost every scenario. Meaning that men are much more reluctant to inflict violence on women than men, while wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:50 AM
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How are these equivalent? Women admit have done something, men say they can imagine doing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:34 AM
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I didn't read past "Phallocentrism", "queerphobia" and "misogyny"-- all in the first two sentences. You sound like you're in a man-hating cult, aka a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 11:17 PM
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"TERFs are misandrists who extend that anger to transwomen." And feminists are misandrists who try not to extend that anger to transwomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:53 PM
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It's mainly just about practicality. Bisexual women are viewed as straight because they usually end up with men, because there are far more men than bisexual/lesbian women, and those men are far easier to attain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:52 PM
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"It explains why the people who catch the less shit for what they do sexuality are straight men and lesbians." This is nonsense. Straight men's sexuality is demonised far more than straight women's. Men are called predators, paedophiles etc and their sexuality is viewed as inherently dangerous and negative. How can you say straight men's sexuality "catches less shit" than straight women's when there are a thousand times more of the former in prison for sex crimes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:48 PM
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It's mainly them being feminine, them having far more sexual options and them having far more sexual power (when they want to be the one with the sexual power). They're put in the position of men, having to worry about their partner being able to have sex with anyone whenever they want, and not being the one with the sexual power.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:45 PM
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The ridiculous mental gymnastics feminists do to turn them being awful into men being awful. It's genuinely hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:44 PM
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Women hating/discriminating men = misogyny. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:42 PM
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Yeah, it's hard for a man to enioy a job he hates. But he does it because he loves his family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:14 PM
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Yes, women can legally enslave men. We know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:13 PM
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Depends how hot she is. She'd instantly go in the "recreational use only" bin. And I'd want to know what she did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:45 PM
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Men do, women very rarely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:43 PM
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Weirdly, what a random person on an obscure reddit sub thinks is irrelevant. In reality, men are held accountable and women seldom are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 09:04 PM
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Men do take responsibility for their own actions, they're forced to. Women don't, because their negative actions are excused by society and passed on to the nearest man. Typically, by the woman blaming the man in a situation where both were involved, and solely the man being held responsible (or disproportionately responsible). This is particularly common in the US, with plea deals. I can also tell you how you underreport a murder. Just ask the many thousands of women who kill their babies, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:15 PM
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No it isn't, at all. Because the male to female victim side is about 8.5:1. Meaning that, lets say, 85% of serious violence is male on male. Women also often get men to do violence for them (invariably to men). And men massively underreport, and women massively overreport. Women also get the state to inflict violence on men much more often and much more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:32 PM
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Where is the man's bodily autonomy? It's the kids' grandparents' DNA as well, they have no legal obligation to it. I don't see how that argument holds up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:30 PM
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That's women's problem. Stop having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:29 PM
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Fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:28 PM
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You don't need an excuse to abandon a woman's kid. Her body, her choice, her responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 01:24 PM
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Why are men pissed off that women justify treating them like shit based on the presumption that they're dangerous, violent predators-- then illustrate that they're lying about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:43 AM
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It's surprisingly proportionate. The difference is that women usually get away with it, men usually don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:41 AM
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Lol. Psycho men almost always have girlfriends/wives. And I'm guessing this 16 year old single Mum was the product of a single Mum?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:40 AM
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Yes, it is. Because women don't mitigate most of the problems they cause. They're a spectacular burden on society, in general. You seem like the mad one. Fortunately, thanks to men, you get to be mad on the internet (created by men), on a website (created by men), using electricity (created and provided by men), sitting safely and warmly in a house built by men, with heating provided by men, protected by male police officers, and have your every whim taken care of by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:06 AM
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Everybody acknowledges this. What's your point? Whenever a violent crime occurs, EVERYONE assumes it was done by a man, and are surprised when it's done by a woman. Which creates a spectacular bias against men, in society and in the criminal justice system. Unlike with race, where there's been decades of pushback and a counterpoint to this bias. Currently, in the UK, it's just come out that the legal system openly discriminates against men, by having "female" as a criteria for mandating a pre-se…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 05:44 AM
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No, for protection from EVERYTHING. And to build everything, maintain everything, create everything and pay for everything. Without men, you'd be living in the woods being raped by bears and dying of polio at 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 05:38 AM
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Doubtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 05:24 AM
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Men are forced to take responsibility. They're sent to prison and/or socially castrated. Of course they are. Women aren't. Men run towards danger, women run away from it. Like that female secret service agent who ducked behind Trump, for cover, while he was being shot at. While the men jumped in front of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 11:33 AM
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I agree with the premise, but none of your points. Men are the biggest misandrists because they're simps. They favour women over men and give women all manner of benefits and privileges. The rest is just a slew of, ironically, misandry. Men are the ones who go above and beyond to punish, and protect people from, everything you've listed. Men will always commit more violent crime and sex crime, because of testosterone. But men absolutely take responsibility for this, by going out of their way to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:27 AM
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That's true though, fake brows and lashes are hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:04 AM
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I know what words mean, I don't need Google. Sexuality, by its very nature, is interactive. It's fairly difficult to express your sexuality alone. We know what the feminist definition of "sexual liberation" is-- sexual liberation for women and sexual oppression for men, women being handed all the sexual power and men being stripped of theirs. No social controls on women's sexuality, but ample social, and legal, controls on men's sexuality. Women's sexuality being protected from any form of commo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:52 PM
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"The difference is unwanted sexual advances." That's what he said. Unwanted = unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:10 PM
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Yeah, the qualification for complimenting a woman, as a man, is usually being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:06 PM
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""You have such an eye for style that dress looks great on you" or "wow the new hair really makes your eyes pop!"" But women aren't attracted to gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:05 PM
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Men get sexually assaulted by women all the time. At very high rates. They also have to deal with false accusations (which women almost never do).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:04 PM
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You're on a sub specifically designed for gender-based discussions between men and women, and you're asking who gives a fuck what men think? Women wear fakeup and make themselves look attractive for men. If men didn't exist, women wouldn't wear fakeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:03 PM
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Women have been banging on for decades about sexual liberation. They've made it so they can do and say anything sexual, at any time, and any criticism of it is "misogyny" or "oppression". They post themselves half-naked all over the internet and walk around half-naked. And they stack up more bodies than Stalin. So why shouldn't men be allowed to be sexually liberated as well? I'll answer: because it threatens, and undermines, women's sexual power. That's what it's all about. "I recently went on …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:00 PM
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Most amateur porn is created by women, and it's awful. Nor does it look "emotionally connected". What I meant was good sex is mainly defined by how much each person wants to satisfy the other, and whether they're willing to do what the other person wants (and are they attracted to each other). eg. a guy will usually be happy if his girl will have sex when he wants, do the things he wants her to do and will cater to his sexual wants (without complaint, or painting it as a chore). The standards ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:03 AM
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How is reading books about "*male* narcissists" any different to absorbing "manosphere" content? It's the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:56 PM
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Marriage is just a form of prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:49 PM
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That you're just as bad as he is? Feminism is just as poisonous as the "manosphere" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:28 AM
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I didn't say anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:27 AM
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You mean the male equivalent of Tiktok?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:45 PM
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It sounds like you got indoctrinated with feminist content, as much as he did with manosphere content.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:44 PM
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I'd cry in front of you if I'd known you for 4 years, been in a "relationship" with you for a year plus and hadn't had sex with you yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:41 PM
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Monkey branch from what? They hadn't even had sex lol. They're in their mid-20s and this girl is behaving like a 15 year old. Thinking that a text relationship is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:39 PM
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Translation: he was the backup simp you planned to settle down with if you couldn't land the chad you wanted. Spoiler: men don't desire this role. Sex is very important to men. Men are sexually driven. You were text buddies, he was friendzoned. He didn't lose anything. As for the "manosphere" stuff. It's not significant. You could just talk to him about it. People absorb all kinds of ideas from the internet. So long as they're smart enough to be cognisant of it, and its negative effects (no matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:37 PM
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Disease, the elements, cars, machinery, themselves (suicides are ten times more likely than homicides), animals, other women (lesbian relationships report the highest rates of domestic violence, women's prisons report higher rates of violence than men's). And men, of course. The female homicide rate in my country is about 0.2 per 100,000 per year. And it's so vanishingly low, primarily, because of all the labour, protection and resources men provide to protect women. Also, women's life expectanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:38 AM
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The global homicide rate is estimated at around 0.006% (6 per 100k) per year. From which orifice have you plucked your stats? And at least two thirds of them are male. So, lets call it ~0.014% for a lifetime estimate. Mine were taken from UK homicide rates. Around 1 per 100,000 per year. Again, at least two thirds of them male.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:33 AM
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Nope. Women rely on men for survival. Men rely on women to be born. It's not less pronounced at all, that's an illusion. Men are still doing at least 95% of essential and hard jobs, building everything, maintaining everything, protecting everything, paying for most things and creating most things. Look around you. Count the things in your house (built by men) you use/rely on every day, how many of them were provided by women? If you removed women from the Earth, male productivity would drop off …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:17 AM
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I make this point all the time (about men doing all the hard/essential work in society). It's bizarre that it's a point which needs making, and how in denial society is about it. Men need women to be born and have sex with. And for almost nothing else. While women need men for practically everything. Just watch those survival shows where they have a men's team compete against a women's team.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:09 PM
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I don't have a girl, so it's not an issue for me. I remember a story about Bob Dylan in the '60s, at a party, fingering a random woman in front of her boyfriend. It's just common sense. People cheat all the time as it is. Of course they're going to cheat with hot, rich celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:44 AM
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Sounds like it would get boring, and would make you get bored of having sex with her quicker. It's actually hard (no pun intended) finding "healthy" things to masturbate to, as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:15 AM
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If she's young and attractive, all she has to do is go to a gig or DM them on Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:14 AM
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These men are more attainable than ever, due to social media. They're just a DM away. Yes, it's unlikely top tier celebrities will message random girls. But maybe second tier celebrities, or guys with some social media status, will. Or guys with some money. And yes, I absolutely believe you would cheat on your partner if your dream celebrity approached you. I've heard countless stories about how women behave around famous/rich men. I've heard stories about how women would approach prime Leonardo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:12 AM
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Most "domestic violence" shelters are. No, they are because women *report* getting attacked, and society cares about them getting "attacked". A very different thing. Men are attacked much more often than women are. Men also pay for all these shelters, as they pay the vast majority of taxes. They also build them all, and provide security for them all. But yeah, men don't defend women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:43 AM
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No, it's objectively true. Feminism is mainstream and ubiquitous. There is no male equivalent. The male equivalent is resigned to deep, dark corners of the internet. If a man criticises a woman, it's invariably called "misogyny". Whereas the term "misandry" doesn't exist in common parlance-- women are encouraged to criticise men, and do so freely. There are pro-female policies and agendas absolutely everywhere, across every area of society, institution, company, industry, political party, and so…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:20 AM
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Lmao. What women provide to society is babies and sex. The things feminists are ashamed of. Little else. Men provide everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:17 AM
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The chances of you being murdered at all, any given year, are well below 0.0001%. And, if you are, it's most likely to be in a mutually abusive relationship. Men build, and continue to build, everything. Women build almost nothing. Just as they don't protect anything, or anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:53 AM
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Not if you're a child, you're much more likely to be victimised by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:50 AM
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This is laughably untrue. The percentage of women who die because they're killed by men is probably below 0.0000001%. Meanwhile, men protect them from everything, and provide them with everything. At men's cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:49 AM
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"If they talked like that in public, they would be ostracized by the general public," " I’ve never heard/seem dudes like this in real life." So, to answer OP's question, men do protect women and women don't protect men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:48 AM
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This sub is not illustrative of society. Quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:46 AM
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Spaces like this? Which spaces are like this? Even this sub has rules against "incels" and "the black pill", "lookism", but no rules against anything female-related.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:44 AM
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Men are the vast majority of the homeless, and women now own more houses than men do. Who cares about sexual assault? It's just one in a long line of bad things that can happen to you, and one of the very few which happen to women more than men (hence the focus on it). Shelters shouldn't be sex-segregated at all. It's discriminatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:44 AM
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Any "misogyny" is peripheral, and almost never mainstream in society. While misandry is spewed by just about every mainstream media source in existence. Misandry is also normalised across social media, particularly the female-dominated Tiktok, Instagram etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:42 AM
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"Importance for survival" doesn't make sense. Women need men to survive more than anything, they don't need other women. Of course, our natural social state is harems, so it's natural women have evolved to get along with other females. Although I really wonder how innate this is. And if it is so innate, how in Christ did men "dominate" for practically all of human history? "When you think about it, it makes sense. A lot of women have worse experience with men rather than with other women, so the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:38 AM
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It takes 10 minutes. How is it hard? You don't even need to have sex, just a blowjob or handjob gets it done. If your partner enjoys cuddling, massages, kisses, whatever, but you don't really, you do it, because they like it and it bonds you to them. Why is sex different? Most people work 8 hours per day doing something they hate. But you can't spare 10 minutes per day to provide the man you love with something he needs? Doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:38 PM
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This doesn't make sense to me. The more sexual power you have, the more you'll deploy dual mating strategy. The more "desperate" you are, the less choice you have, and you'll take anything you can get. Desperate men can't acquire casual sex. It's not even an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:24 AM
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I've never heard anyone posit that who you're attracted to is determined by how attractive you are. Who you can attract is determined by how attractive you are. I believe women are slightly fatter than men. And I disagree. Because women's sexual attractiveness is more reliant on their physical appearance than men's. And your point about women having more to lose, "emotional labour" etc is just feminist nonsense. And "economic coercion" = men having any autonomy over their value, and women having…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:19 AM
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I half-agree. But why not just change how you view sex, instead of making it miserable. It's a form of intimacy, and it's giving pleasure to your partner. That should be enough to make it enjoyable, surely? Not something you "tolerate".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:12 AM
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From what I've seen, most sex is bad. Just watch amateur porn, it's awful. It's more about wanting to satisfy each other, and being willing to do what the other person wants, than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:08 AM
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They aren't terrible men, they're terrible women. They're just good looking men. I hate how men always get blamed for women being awful. Women don't pick bad men, they are bad women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:04 AM
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Women don't read profiles at all on Tinder. Less so than men. "Why should I message him first? Why should I be interested in a conversation with him?" Nice job encapsulating the attitude of modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:28 PM
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No. Because it's not a fair wage. It's a transaction conducted in a rigged system. A system in which you can easily acquire anything you desire from men, but they can't easily acquire anything they desire from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:06 PM
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How don't I respect her? You don't respect men, or any of the things they do for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:10 AM
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You pay men to do them, you mean. Because men have created a system in which you can work an easy, useless job, be paid the same as them and pay men for their vital services and sacrifice. "Now I'm supposed to pay an additional fee, in pussy, for men who had nothing to do with any of that" Yes. Just like men are supposed to work all those jobs I mentioned, provide everything to women, for nothing in return. Why should you be entitled to men's value but men not be entitled to your value? Not *som…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:49 AM
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Nothing has fundamentally changed since the 1950s. Men still build, maintain, pay for and protect everything. Pay people? You mean pay MEN. Changing the abstract system to allow women more power, freedom and easier access to men's labour doesn't change the fact it's men doing all the labour. It just makes women more privileged and advantaged. You think I don't love my Mother? Lol. Okay, weird argument. The key difference is that women have complete autonomy, and power, over their reproduction. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:15 PM
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Is this a joke, or are you/women really this willfully blind to what men do for them? Look around you, almost everything you own, use and rely on was built and provided by a man. Most of it was paid for by men as well. Men also protect you and everything you own. Men have created a system in which you have the illusion of independence. But doing an easy job with little value to society, and being given an abstract form of value, does not make it so. Men do all the hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:52 PM
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You think that's the only way men provide for women? Who built your house, and everything in it? Who built the internet and website you're on? Who provided both with electricity? Who provides you with clean running water, plumbing, gas, heating, food, transport, protection, just about everything? What gratitude do women show for all this? All they do is moan and proclaim how "independent" they are, and get grossly offended if anything is expected of them in reciprocity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:22 PM
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Then how would problems get solved?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:18 PM
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You mean like women show appreciation for men providing them with absolutely everything they need or desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:12 PM
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Oh, you mean protecting a home? Men do that as well. What exactly are you trying to describe? A home doesn't need taking care of. You mean someone who doesn't work and sits on their arse all day, while their partner goes to work, earns money and pays for everything? Yeah, and women, if they don't want to get raped, should do the smart thing and stay indoors. And, if they don't want to have a baby, they should do the smart thing and keep their legs closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:43 PM
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" I genuinely don’t know anybody that would prefer tons of sex over a happy healthy relationship." This is a very strange false choice, as men get tons of sex by being in a (happy healthy) relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:06 PM
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We're talking in general, and overall. Anecdotes are irrelevant. Men do the vast majority of earning, and 99% of all essential and hard jobs in society. They've also made domestic duties incredibly easy, by, yknow, creating vacuums, dishwashers, washing machines, providing electricity/gas/heating, and EVERYTHING. Men work about 45% more hours, in the UK. Your screeching misandry does not align with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:37 PM
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There's no such thing as a "home maker" lol. Men build homes, they are the "home makers".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:28 PM
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That's her problem. No she shouldn't. She got paid while she was married, she got at least 50% of the man's income. Like I said, any more than you should get paid for leaving a job (beyond a minimal sum). Continuing to get paid after leaving a job/role is standard female privilege. If you want to keep access to the man's money, stay married to him. It's really simple, if you're not allergic to accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:25 PM
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"No, my point was that companies exploit everyone." I responded to specifically what you wrote. As usual, when it's women doing something wrong, it's not their fault, but society's fault. And men are somehow implicated and blames equally. My point is self-evident. Why can't you answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:34 PM
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>That men are rarely given equal custody. >They rarely want it Pick one. "Like women do? Sure." Lol. They absolutely don't. Men earn the vast majority of money. That's why women get paid after divorce. If women didn't get paid after divorce, men would likely get custody more, and want custody more, as they'd be in the best financial position to provide for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:50 PM
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Which part isn't true? So he should both earn the money and take care of the children?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:37 PM
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It depends how you define "powerful". I'm actually attracted to intelligent women. I spent some time in hospital and the Junior Doctors were incredibly attractive to me. But then I'm not interested in kids or marriage. I don't see the connection between most of your points and being "powerful", besides the finances. And being "down for casual fun" (ie being a hoe) is not a plus point. It means they're much more likely to cheat and much less likely to be committed to you, and have a back-catalogu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:35 PM
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Obviously. He usually isn't. He should be given equal custody of his kids, however. Which he rarely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:25 PM
2

How does a woman give herself "death grip"? I think the female equivalent is using high octane vibrators or stretching her hole out (the former being more common).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:52 PM
1

I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:48 PM
1

That's not very egalitarian, given that porn is the male equivalent to toys. Women use toys, men use porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:47 PM
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The vast majority of men don't want to use toys, and get nothing out of them. Toys are basically the female equivalent to porn. Men are visual. It has nothing to do with "ego"-- which is just a way to demonise men's preferences and desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:46 PM
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Sexualisation is great. It's how males view the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:41 PM
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All true except the first one. And all perfectly valid. Although I'd say women do much more of point #5.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:34 PM
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"It seems like the ideal scenario for the manosphere is for women to be “traditional”—either not working or only holding low-wage jobs but still receive absolutely nothing in the event of a divorce." Yep. There's no reason a woman should be given anything in a divorce, besides something de minimis. Any more than they should get given anything after leaving a job. You get paid for being in a marriage, or having a job, not leaving one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:32 PM
1

Your point was about companies exploiting women and children, by getting them to exploit their parents/men. Do companies exploit men by getting them to exploit women? If so, can you give some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:42 PM
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Agreed. And that's what I tried to tell my Fiance on our wedding day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:56 PM
1

"Ever heard of Steak and Blowjob day?" No.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:54 PM
1

Generally, men who don't put any effort into holidays don't care about holidays, and don't care about receiving anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:54 PM
1

It really isn't. Awesome would be ignoring the day altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:51 PM
1

Are we back to women = children?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:48 PM
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No, it doesn't, at all. It shows that around 50% of marriages end with the man being divorce-raped, kicked out of the house he bought, deprived of his kids and forced to pay his ex-wife for years to come. I believe the male suicide rate, post-divorce, is around 9 times higher than that of women. And most divorces are initiated by women. The function of marriage has always been to enable the man to take care of the woman. The man gets very little out of it. Besides access to his kids (which he sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:18 PM
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Proposals shouldn't occur. Marriage is an extreme act of self-harm for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 10:11 PM
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No, it doesn't. Feminists absolutely claim that women being hoes is empowering.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:53 PM
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The first point isn't, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:32 PM
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That analogy doesn't work. There's no cost to losing the lottery, and what you win is extraordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:30 PM
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No, they mustn't. It's not men's responsibility to fix women's sex drive. Men don't enjoy work, they mainly do it to benefit women. They don't enjoy talking, inane conversations, shopping, reality TV, soaps, and a million things they have to indulge when in a relationship with a woman. Enthusiastic sex whenever they want it should be the bare minimum offer in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:58 PM
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You're the one strawmanning. I didn't say "sex work", I said sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:47 PM
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To please their man. Sex is generally really important to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:44 PM
0

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:37 PM
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Women who settle for men will usually treat sex with them like something they have to earn, not something they enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:33 PM
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"If you're not attracting women in their prime, on what basis are you claiming those men are in their prime?" Because he wasn't attracting women in their prime at any other age lol. It's relative. If he's more attractive to prime women now than when he was their age, then he's in his prime. A man's prime is when he's most attractive to (prime) women. Not when he's attractive to (prime) women. Most men don't have any looks to lose as they age. They never had a physical prime like women do. So the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:23 PM
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Maybe you're just not attractive. Baggy clothes aren't really what either men or women generally wear. Like I said, you can see a woman's physique in jeans and a normal t-shirt. The best, and easiest, way for a girl to get men to ask her out is by talking to them and being friendly. Initiate conversation with a guy a couple of times and he'll likely know you're interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:47 PM
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Puts them on social media? lol. What? Women put themselves on social media. Again, women control what goes on social media. Social media is female-dominated. Both in terms of content and consumption. Amish people don't even exist outside America, and live completely isolated in America. They make nun porn, schoolgirl porn, Doctor porn, teacher porn, all kinds of "modest" women porn. Why would men try to court Amish women? You have to live the Amish lifestyle for that. I didn't say men wanted pru…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:42 PM
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Amish women are loved and wanted. They're all married with kids. Define "prude". Men, generally, want women who are modest in public and highly sexed *specifically for them*. Modern women, however, are usually the opposite. They get dressed up to go out and don't even shower when they're at home with their boyfriends. They wear sweat pants around the house and take bikini pictures to put on Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:11 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:07 PM
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It's not an excuse, it's a reason. Why would a man need an "excuse" for doing what he wants to do? It is a need. Much more a need than 95% of the shit men are forced to provide women with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:40 PM
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It's not men's fault women have redefined modesty, by shifting the paradigm so far to the whore end of the spectrum that a figure-hugging mini dress is now considered modest. Women are responsible for this change, not men. Men have always, historically, wanted women dressed modestly. Also, I absolutely prefer women in everyday clothes. I don't see the point of bearing flesh. I can tell whether a girl has a nice body in normal clothes, and it spoils the mystique. Nudity really isn't that sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:38 PM
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"Question For Men".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:33 PM
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Low value and immature men will go for those women. I don't understand this. You can see whether a girl is attractive or not when she's dressed modestly. It's not a mystery. You can see her body shape, her face, hair, tell how old she is, whether she has that youthful glow. Why does her dressing like a whore make her more attractive? Especially today, when the standard for "modest" attire, for a girl, is not having your nipples and flaps on display. It's deeply unappealing how girls dress these …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:32 PM
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You don't understand the male sex drive. This is like saying good women don't want the taxes of bad men, or bad men building their houses, repairing their cars, providing them with plumbing, electricity etc etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:56 PM
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Why don't they? Almost anyone in the west can save up for 5 years and live like a King in Thailand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:50 PM
1

Have you asked your Mum why she chose an abusive man as your Father?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:49 PM
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No, it's a distinctly female problem. Because they're the ones with all the reproductive power and choice. With that comes all the reproductive responsibility. They choose when they have a child, they choose when a man becomes a Father. So they get to set the conditions a child is born into. Men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:48 PM
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A quarter of kids live with single Mothers, but it's not a very common problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:48 PM
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How do you know he'd been cheating and abusive? Your Mum told you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:46 PM
1

What option?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:44 PM
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Women do not contribute meaningfully to society, in terms of paid work, relative to men. At all. I didn't really list the "top" jobs for men either, so it was a fair comparison. The fact that the go-to for "valuable" female jobs is, always, nurses/teachers, shows how few valuable jobs women actually do, relative to men. You can rattle off hundreds of essential/hard jobs done by men, which are usually, literally, 99% done by men (unlike nursing and teaching). Nursing and teaching are also fairly …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:42 PM
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That's what every response is lol. You asked how a western woman is better than a passport pickup, FOR A MAN, and all the responses, not untypically, are about the woman's wellbeing and needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:13 PM
1

As opposed to unlived experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:09 PM
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Sex when women are in control = empowering, liberating Sex when men are in control = evil, predatory, oppressive Nobody in the countries men passport bro to are "starving" lmao. Yet again, we have the mythical and omnipresent hysterical victimhood of women (when it's convenient and benefits them). The poverty rate in Thailand is around 3.4%. It's no different to a millionaire Arab going to the west and dating western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:06 PM
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How is "targeting" someone with fewer options bad but targeting someone with more options (what women routinely do) good? The latter is depriving someone already deprived of something, the former is providing something to someone more deprived. It's completely wrong that women in poorer countries are "uneducated". Most of them speak multiple languages, for a start. " You’re doing this for a reason. Ask yourself why?" Because women in the west have turned their societies into misandrist hellscape…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:02 PM
1

Have you seen the price of a house or eggs in Thailand?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:56 PM
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Like women did in the past? When they were being treated unfairly? Money is a social construct (created by men, like everything). Women don't provide protection, resources or labour-- men do. Doing easy, useless jobs, while decimating wages and working conditions, is not contributing to society, or to men. How do men meaningfully benefit from a woman working in HR, or getting some Degree in Comparative Literature? Is that equivalent to men building a woman's house, paying for all public services…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:36 PM
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Women only don't because they don't have to, because the current system is obscenely gynocentric and discriminatory in their favour. There isn't supposed to be an "open market" re: sex. Women, innately, have all the sexual power. They're supposed to trade that for men's physical power, and what men naturally provide (namely resources/protection/labour). But, instead, all of those things are handed to women on a silver platter, enslaving men in the process, allowing women to exploit their sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:53 PM
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Of course there are, but they're rare. And half the reason they do has nothing to do with finding them more physically attractive. But because of factors such as them being easier/treating them better etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:02 PM
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Sure they do. Like some women like broke men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:00 PM
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Just gently jog away.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:57 PM
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Many will have got with the woman when she wasn't fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:55 PM
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Sex and relationships shouldn't be something men have to "earn". Women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:15 AM
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Read the comment I responded to, "dumbass".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:30 AM
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What does this have to do with demonising and pathologising men's preferences? It's not even a male thing. Most people don't want partners who "challenge" them, who are argumentative and oppositional. They want someone they get along with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:55 PM
1

That defeats the purpose of the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:53 PM
0

Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wages in a Growing Share of Marriages | Pew Research Center In 55% of households, the man earns at least 60% of the income. In only 16% does the woman. In addition, the rates of marriage have decreased spectacularly, alongside women earning more and men earning (relatively) less-- in large part, because women are much less motivated to marry men who don't earn as much money (relative to them). Most marriages are between people of equal class, but not because of mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:51 PM
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I did. You just didn't like the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:44 PM
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You mean use the definitive example of "old money"? Every statistic on the planet shows that women marry up, financially, and men don't care about a woman's finances. "Btw…that marriage was a disaster." Btw...most marriages are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:31 AM
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"Men can already "choose to"; nobody is actively stopping them." You've just said that proximity is King... There are a thousand reasons a man wouldn't cold approach a random woman outside of his social class/circle. Choices aren't made in a vacuum. "the advantages you talk about are for short term relationships. For long term relationships, there are very few advantages." They apply to long-term relationships. The only caveat is marriage, where this advantage can be turned on its head. But men …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:37 AM
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It's a contorted question. Because men know that women generally choose which men to date based on appearance. So men are annoyed that women are vetting, strongly, for appearance, but claim they can't vet for personality (despite the "emotional intelligence" and "female intuition" they're always bragging about).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:32 AM
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They don't tell the desirable men. They tell the average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:28 AM
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You answered your own question. Proximity and convenience is why most men don't marry waitresses. That doesn't mean they wouldn't choose to. "Marrying someone from a lower socio-economic background provides little advantages to these men. Basically they have no real reason/incentive to search outside their own social groups, unless they can't find a partner in said social groups. " There are definitely advantages. It gives the man financial power over the woman. She will be much more impressed w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:20 AM
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Princess Diana had neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:16 AM
1

Google suggests the average IQ of university students is around 102. One standard deviation is 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:12 AM
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How Many Genders Are There? | Man on the Street These kinds of questions? Or how about this? Strangers Rank Their Intelligence | IQ vs First Impressions Of course, on average, people who go to university have higher IQs, but not because they go to university. You've put the cart before the horse. University education now is quasi-indoctrination. I like intelligent girls and intelligent people, but I don't like girls indoctrinated with identity politics and feminism (ie misandry). "Oh I see. I li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:09 AM
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Sounds like a nightmare. An argumentative nag. Women, generally, aren't good at respecting, or even tolerating, contrary viewpoints. Women who want to make men "better men" are usually aghast at the notion of you making them better women. I don't want to go to different places or eat exotic foods. If the right woman wants to travel or eat, I'll take her, but will expect her to do things for me in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:58 AM
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Men don't want to be "challenged" by their girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:55 AM
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Yes, this is invariably what men are met with when they have preferences women don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:55 AM
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A Doctor is absolutely marrying a waitress, she just isn't in his environment. Most of the women he socialises with are of his social class. Or in his field. There's a reason rich, successful men getting with their secretaries is a meme. But there's also the fact that smart people don't want to be with stupid people. And there are obvious advantages to a rich man marrying a fairly rich woman-- he knows she isn't solely using him for his money, and it mitigates the risk of divorce-rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:49 AM
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Men need to be better at sex, and lead, because that's what women want and value. If they aren't, they won't get sex. There's a strong correlation between experience and skill, the more you do something, the better you are at it. Not to mention, there's usually no way for a woman to vet if a man is good in bed, before having sex with him (the first time), so that's moot. She isn't selecting based on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:49 AM
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But she could be attracted to you when she meets you in person. Women's physical standards, online, are often insane. Even I, as a man, find it hard to figure out whether I'm attracted to most females from just their photos. And lots of relationships start from men harassing women online. I've heard some crazy stories. Random example, this 10/10 OF/streamer thot met a guy who bought her snapchat, spammed her, sent her dick pics etc. They met at some convention, banged and developed a relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:36 AM
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Like I said, that distinction doesn't apply to most sexual interactions. "For the latter, you want to skip all the steps of knowing one another and getting used to each other in favor of experienced lover that can make you feel good right off the bat because that relationship has no potential to last long." If that was the reason, men would also want experienced women. They don't. Women want sexually successful men, not sexually experienced men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:33 AM
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There isn't usually much of a delineation between those two things. Most relationships start off somewhat casual, and most casual relationships start off with the possibility of being a genuine relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:19 AM
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Does this apply to online interactions? Because it's hard to gauge physical attraction online.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:09 AM
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It takes an incredible amount of effort for a man to go on lots of dates, or very low standards. Unless he's attractive, in which case, he doesn't have to worry about this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:09 AM
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Microsoft Word - A study into the views of parents on the physical punishme… "Women are more likely than men to have smacked one of their children in the past year (32% vs. 25%)." "Mothers are more likely than fathers to mention using various techniques including: creating a diversion (38% v. 27%), ‘counting to three’ (32% vs. 26%), and smacking (26% vs. 21%)." Then factor that around half of homes are single Mother homes, and women do far more childcare, which means you can multiply the base pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:07 AM
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This is a disgustingly misandrist, and feminist, view of what "domestic violence" is. For a start, most domestic violence is against children, done by Mothers. Half of the remainder is done by women, against men. The recent past was far more violent in every aspect than it is now, so any comparison is largely irrelevant. And, needless to say, the vast majority of that violence fell on men, and women were protected from it far, far more than men. The same applies to boys and girls. My Dad was can…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:39 AM
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"It's worth noting that crime levels dropped in the mid 90s because of the passage of the Violence Against Women Act in 1994" Not true. They primarily dropped because the economy got better. And the VAW Act was only a small part of anti-crime legislation, and the Crime Bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:36 AM
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I remember the tale of a virgin woman who posted on some reddit virgin exchange sub, looking for her first bed buddy. After fielding the many offers, talking to many different guys, she eventually decided to have sex with a man who wasn't a virgin. Needless to say, the virgins on the sub were displeased.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:32 AM
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No you wouldn't, not if you were male. You're saying that as a female.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:27 AM
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As a female, obviously. As a male, absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:27 AM
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