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I like the cut of your jib. This is how you shut down those who play the victim card when they lose an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:28 PM
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People in general don't want to feel inferior, so they deal with those feelings by drawing an imaginary social hierarchy and then punching down on the groups they project to be inferior. This is exactly what women with inferiority complexes do with men. These women overgeneralize men to have all these irredeemable caricatures for the sake of feeling above them, even when they aren't in reality. That way, they can pretend as if "women don't masturbate," "women aren't obsessed with having sex," "w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:53 AM
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This is so true. Women stay committed to being as ignorant as possible about the hardships that men have to go through. Men should become more ignorant of women’s issues on a widespread basis to match that energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 04:15 PM
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until that guy also gets used for a free meal and joins the growing population of men refusing to go on dinner first dates
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:50 AM
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Mic drop
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:03 AM
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Lots of women simply lack empathy, nuanced thinking, and emotional intelligence. They are gripped by an overwhelming sense of self-absorption and self-preservation, which causes many of them to lose sight of reality and over-generalize their experiences with men without a care in the world for how cruel they come off as well as the consequences of said cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:46 AM
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Yup, most "advice" women give online is really just an attempt at generating/entrenching a narrative/stigma that is supposed to benefit women in some way. It's almost never genuine. For example, if you look at the threads posted on women-dominated subs regarding the issue of how a non-insignificant percentage of women are on dating apps for the express purpose of getting free meals from unsuspecting men, you'll quickly notice how the highest voted comments all feature a personal anecdote that on…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:29 PM
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My preferences are completely irrelevant so I'm not sure why you're asking. However, I'll still entertain you. Ideally she'd be attractive enough to not need any makeup at all. However, my first girlfriend was gorgeous - the type where many, many men would eyefuck her as we walked around in public (it really made me aware as to just how much attention some women get in their day-to-day, but then again I also get eyefucked a lot but definitely not as much as she did) - and she used a little bit o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:45 PM
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The fact you need to rely on a low-hanging fruit such as extremes to defeat an entire argument without actually challenging the substance of the post says a lot about you. Your lazy intellectualism simply works in my favor - onlookers will see that no one actually has a good faith argument against mine, which by default will make them side with mine, even if they'd never admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:22 PM
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If you think that I've provided "no reason why women would be unsatisfied," then that means you need to get your eyesight or brain checked. Simple reading skills on top of critical thinking skills are something you need to obtain, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:14 PM
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What an impressive display at debating. Your comment would work well in a universe where citing personal anecdotes of a singular person is actually relevant to a generalized topic backed by a multi-billion dollar industry and by the fact that men have eyes, a brain, and a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:33 PM
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Lots of strawmanning from you. Never said "everyone" engages or that those who don't engage with it are "ugly." Sorry you need to rely on such disingenuous tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:30 PM
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Okay, Tweaker666.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:26 PM
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Lots of buzzwords there - really innovative and profound stuff!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:25 PM
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Sorry my comment specifically triggered you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:23 PM
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The fact that you are deliberately choosing to leave out other parts of my reply, which were specifically addressing the two main reasons she raises in her comment, tells me that you like to exaggerate and project. Debating is hard, I understand, but please try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:21 PM
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Your singular experience has absolutely no relevance to this post. It neither proves nor disproves anything. Disproving lookism is way harder than you think. Your comment probably sounded a lot better in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:18 PM
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Outline which argument you think is "well thought-out." I've called out some "arguments" as irrelevant and asked some people to clearly explain how exactly they relate to the main gist of my post, which so far no one has attempted to do (because they know they would lose the argument if actually engaging in good faith). Calling something out as irrelevant is debating in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:48 PM
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This is the main way some of these women get any attention from men at all in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:00 PM
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It's become overrun with insecure women who use makeup, or fail at using it, clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:59 PM
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You have an unreasonably high opinion of your own intellectual integrity. I already clarified that women's motivations for wearing makeup have no bearing on the main gist of my post, which you are still too afraid to tackle and challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:51 PM
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Haha, need to call for backup because you can't come up with anything. Throw up the bat-signal while you're at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:41 PM
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There's no point in engaging with intentionally (and obviously) disingeuous people. You're trying to use extremes like "all" and qualifiers like "think" to carry your points, when we all know that most women do think makeup makes them more attractive to men and that the majority of men do generally find women who wear makeup more attractive. There's a reason why the makeup industry is worth billions upon billions of dollars, and why it is so ingrained in culture and widely used by women. The onu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:37 PM
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You can keep lying to yourself. Be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:32 PM
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Surprise surprise, women can't actually engage the actual debate here, so they try their usual ruses to stifle honest discussion and make them feel better about themselves. No one is being fooled and it only draws more attention and credence to the truth surrounding this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:31 PM
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Are you being purposely dense or just plain dumb? Explain to me logically how any of your points have any bearing on the main gist of my post - that men are generally more attracted to women with some amount of makeup on, and that women use makeup when going on dates with guys, creating discontent in men when the women eventually reveal their bare faces? Use your brain for this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:20 PM
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No one is falling for this. You're not tricking anyone. If it didn't change their appearance "fundamentally" (most likely you're trying to wedge a very strong standard for what a 'fundamental' change is), then women wouldn't be using it en masse. Men have eyes, brains, and dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:57 PM
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The reason why women enjoy wearing makeup has no bearing on the debate here. Men still feel more attracted to women with it on than without. Also, what you feel doesn't really mean anything. "Feel" is an overused qualifier used by women being purposely disingenuous or obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:50 PM
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How is this even relevant to this discussion? Why not find a study that asks how often American women wear makeup when dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:44 PM
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Sorry that this post triggered you specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:43 PM
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A huge reason why there are so many of such men in their 30s is that they are finally experiencing dating success for the first time in their lives. Either they learned how to become more physically appealing, grew into their looks, or became more successful in their careers. Women generally can't relate to this as many of them who have the ability to hoe around have their hoe phase in their early 20s. But for many men, this phase occurs in their 30s. I have no excuses for the men who enjoy thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:41 PM
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There can be multiple factors. Yes, the ones you mentioned are highly relevant as well. Admittedly, it's difficult to determine what exactly is the main factor(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:28 PM
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Why would it escape me? That’s the narrative that women have been pushing for several years now. Encounter a man who disagrees with you online? Must be an ugly incel. This recent leak merely illustrates the hypocrisy of it all and also serves as actual evidence of how these women tend to look. It’s honestly pretty eye-opening and makes all the pieces fall into place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:12 AM
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Sometimes the gene pool does need to be trimmed for the betterment of humankind. This applies to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:59 PM
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Spoken like someone whose face just may be among the leaked selfies. The point is, if you look like them, most of their judgments against men automatically become invalid since their appearance is what’s making them biased and resentful against men. It’s essentially just projection at the highest level lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:36 PM
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I think many of these women, some deservedly so, have way worse things to worry about at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:01 PM
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You realize that their usernames were also leaked? There are many men offering to pay good money to those who downloaded the leak to find out the individuals behind certain usernames.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:52 PM
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Sure, like a drop in the ocean. Plenty doesn’t mean anything considering the amount of users on Reddit. The leaked selfies are way more representative than the few conventionally attractive faces you see get upvoted here and notice due to selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:26 PM
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Have you seen the leaked selfies of the women who use the Tea app? These are the types of “women” calling men incels online lol. Reddit women are cut from the same cloth. Once you realize this, their nasty vitriol against men suddenly makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:58 PM
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So you mean they either lack or are too lazy to use critical thinking skills, and instead defer to the hivemind when forming any type of opinion? Sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:16 AM
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Oop looks like I blew the disguise of another one. Ya'll are so obtuse lmao. Just accept that you won't ever be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:12 AM
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Women also infiltrate male spaces under guise of being male. They are obsessed at forcing their agenda down our throats. How do they have the time? Men definitely don't behave in such a cowardly and manipulative manner to the same extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:59 AM
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Lmao like duh. Why are the popular cliques always full of similarly attractive people? Why are friend groups generally the same way? Everyone subconsciously considers everyone else's attractiveness level (league) when choosing who to spend time with. This obviously bleeds into dating. If there is too great of an attractiveness differential in a couple, it's bound to cause insecurity and cheating will be an even greater possibility. That's why dating within the same league is generally the safer …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:03 AM
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It's always been just about looks. That is what human attraction is hard-wired to be based on. Sure, women may consider other factors when the goal is to settle down and start a family. But AFBB will always be the rule. If men had the choice, nobody would take the beta bux role.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:21 AM
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You’re describing SMV. Personally I think leagues refer purely to looks. Esp since nowadays women and men are a lot more equal in terms of education and income.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:39 PM
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Agreed. Lots of men want to hoe around after putting in the work to level up. Another thing is women feel insecure when their partner is more attractive than them. Many women in fact wouldn’t consider a man who is better looking than them as suitable for a LTR. If a woman realizes that more eyes are immediately drawn to the man instead of her, it makes her feel less feminine and bad about herself. Also these women figure that a man more attractive than them would be more likely to cheat, which c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:36 PM
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This. Average women subconsciously are afraid of men, en masse, leveling up and “looksmaxxing” like women have been socialized to do from a very young age. When the average man is better looking and presentable, it displaces some of the usual validation and attention average women would normally get, forcing average women to level up even more as well. Another reason why some like to peddle the irrelevant advice is simply to virtue signal and maybe even fool themselves into believing they are le…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:10 PM
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Maybe the barely legal young women are more likely to not care about commitment. But once they start approaching their mid-20s, women by far and large desperately want commitment (to a guy who's above their league). Casual sex for women is very easy to obtain, as everyone knows. The real flex for women is getting a top-tier guy to commit to her. Women also stand to gain a lot financially through a committed relationship, so that's a factor as well. Men, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:18 PM
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While there are many women who struggle to comprehend abstract concepts like the ones you mentioned, many of them simply misrepresent/misconstrue things to fit their own narrative. Unlike men, women as a group don’t really subscribe to any kind of honor code, so they don’t really care about good faith vs bad faith when they are doing the arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:22 AM
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It really does sound like an ideal, utopian lifestyle for those who don't care about romance and love. If more women put out more often like this, no joke I think crime and mental illness rates would decrease significantly. But it'd never happen because women don't sleep across or down - they mainly try to sleep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:00 PM
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Doesn't matter, had sex. As for the the woman in the original clip, she def mainly goes for guys above her league. Just behold the extreme before/after change once she's done applying makeup. So many clues, yet so many clueless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:13 PM
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The person you're talking to is a woman cosplaying as a 6'2 man with blue eyes. If you can't lock down chad, just become him!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:30 PM
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This. Feminists need to understand that there are consequences to their delusions. Let the societal collapse happen - women will very quickly see how little they contribute and how much they depend on men for their spoiled, coddled lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:25 PM
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Women make men misogynistic naturally. Misogyny is a natural state of human society. Also, expecting princess treatment from men is misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:53 PM
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No need to project. Women who’ve hit the wall are essentially men in society’s eyes. It’s a nice way for their ego to come back down to Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:34 AM
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That’s a gentle way of describing how the average modern woman generally seeks out men above her league until she hits the wall and is confronted with an accurate evaluation of her SMV. Hint hint, it’s a lot lower than that of the men who she is accustomed to seeking out. In other words, the men who are active participants in today’s dating market want the average women who are active participants much less than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:56 AM
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Agreed, but for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:53 PM
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Obviously. Men usually choose the path of least resistance, and when you combine that with that fact that men generally have lower standards, you get many men trying to get with women they don't even find that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:16 PM
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This idea is pretty much mainstream already. Far fewer male feminists these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:50 PM
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Selection and confirmation bias. Expand your horizons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:44 PM
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Maybe view society with an objective focus on egalitarianism, instead of biased feminism, which means not flocking with the rest of the sheep in the sisterhood and not defending their members at all cost no matter the circumstances. Have an individualistic mindset that is not dependent on the narrative/lies that man-hating feminists want to perpetuate. Don't be afraid to go against the grain if you see something concerning. Don't be afraid to be a "pick-me," it's just a manipulation tactic that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:06 PM
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"made up fairytale" despite the countless stories on this platform authored by women about how so and so won't commit to her. Your narrative is your and radfems' own made up fairytale.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:30 PM
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Women don't deserve sympathy. Because their biggest problem in life is that they cant get Chad to commit to them. And if that's their biggest problem in life its a very small problem. Because commitment isn't a very important part of life. All these women want to do is boost their own ego and cum. A selfish endeavor really. What you may think when women say they're struggling in dating: oh she's looking for a loving long term relationship and good men aren't giving her a fair chance! What is act…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:08 PM
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Given how modern women are so shallow and materialistic, trying to pin down the best looking men they can get until they’re forced to settle (in their minds at least) for a betabux, I think many, many modern men would much rather prefer the sexbot. Especially once it’s more normalized in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:30 PM
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There is a caste system that applies here, with chads and most women at the top, and everyone else at the bottom. The ones at the top don’t need to play by the same rules that the bottom must follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:31 AM
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Alpha fux, beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:12 PM
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Why above-average men entertain so many women below their league, I will never understand. Let me guess, many of these women seeking out tall, Jewish men belong to the same minority group?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:53 PM
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Because the average man's looksmatch based on Tinder SMV is a fat, ugly woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:11 PM
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But then how would we protect women from potential rejection and embarrassment in our gynocentric society? Hardships are meant for men to bear, and for women to exploit. Women think it’s manly for men to shoulder the burden, because it’s unwomanly for women to be burdened by things men should be burdened by.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:53 PM
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Also makeup and plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:14 AM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:31 PM
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It's unsurprising that unaccountable people fail to pass on the lessons of accountability to their sons during their formative years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:38 PM
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This. Men need to grow some brains and stop irrationally thinking that any glammed-up woman they see must be naturally gorgeous. We need to start shaming the shit out of men who worship women like this. Also side note, but I’ve noticed that women tend to have visibly lifted egos once they are done painting their faces. I can’t imagine building an ego based on something artificial that is accessible to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:05 PM
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Sure. But lots of women view it as misogynistic thinking for men to be so entitled to want their wives to take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:58 PM
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Men sleep down, but don't commit down. Men don't want to marry women they deem below their league. So the application of leagues to the dating market is much more relevant to women in the context of LTR than in the context of sleeping around. It's silly to try to remove the concept of leagues from dating as applied to women, when it quite literally explains many dating market dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:32 PM
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"take care of me" Imagine if it were normalized for men to claim that high value women must be women who are willing to take care of men. Yet the inverse is very much normalized. This is why marriage is pointless nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:20 PM
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I never said that he was one with absolute certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:59 AM
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No, that's your subjective opinion of a good man. My subjective opinion of a good woman is a woman who doesn't act like she knows what a good/real man is. And all he is communicating is that he's not interested in hanging out temporarily due to either good, neutral, or bad reasons (assuming that he's lying about work). We can only speculate as to why. But it doesn't mean that he wasn't interested in OP's friend period, and that's even assuming the worst about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:37 PM
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And women still wonder why men view them as illogical? She's really proving the stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:14 PM
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70% rate of success is still subjectively low imo. Also, 90% of divorces among college-educated women are initiated by the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:07 PM
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It’s unreasonable when women complain about how there aren’t any good men left, when in fact they are actively sabotaging themselves. Perhaps the guy truly is swamped with work and has a good reason to not see her “for the past few days,” which isn’t even a long timeframe at all. It doesn’t even seem to have reached a full week. But hey, that guy def dodged a bullet, so good for him that OP’s friend outs herself as unreasonable that easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:43 PM
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And do you think this is a healthy dynamic to have for dating? Sounds like you just want to justify continued unreasonable entitlement from women, especially given how they are usually nothing special themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:30 PM
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The ones who are have really low standards and are only able to have casual sex with women below their league. It is much easier for women to have casual sex within and above their league. The average men with barely any sexual experience will just take whatever below average woman they can get to gain experience. People in LTR tend to be more looksmatched.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:40 PM
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It's a highly optimistic viewpoint to believe that women as a group would ever allow their logic to trump their emotions. They are raised from birth to believe that they deserve everything because they are special. No internal shift in mindset will ever manifest naturally among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:19 PM
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You say that as you sound like the very same "profound enlightened truth teller" that you say I'm not. If you can't see the irony in that, then I think it's for your best that I remind you to take your omega-3s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:37 PM
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The truth is unpleasant sometimes. Sorry it makes you feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:23 PM
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This is a woman who has been married for 2 decades, yet somehow she thinks she has a good understanding of modern dating issues. Your male equivalent would likely be a virgin in modern society. Be happy you were born a woman so that you were never even forced to cultivate a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:59 PM
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That's cause ya'll are in college. The dating market shifts radically as you approach your mid-20s+ cause people learn that true love doesn't exist and that love is instead simply two people consciously choosing to stick with each other based on the mutual fulfillment of each other's requirements and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:16 PM
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"Get what you need from men" as if this hasn't already been internalized by every modern woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:09 PM
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I'd choose the man, but I can see why some women would choose the bear. Most men aren't violent, but the truth is that ~80% of violent crime is perpetrated by men. Society needs to intensify the punishment for violent crime across the board. The death penalty needs to be freely and more frequently administered. As the system stands now, too many would-be violent criminals don't view their possible punishment as severe enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:46 PM
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Maybe hating the truth is yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:58 PM
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If men knew what most women truly have to offer, then most men truly wouldn't want a relationship. Most women don't deserve relationships because they've been conditioned to be as self-interested as possible. More men should view women the same way how women view men - worthless until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:04 PM
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There is a significant plurality of women who do actually believe this to some degree. There is also a significant plurality of women who hold out for unreasonable height gaps given their own dating value and the limited supply of tall men. There is a huge overlap between these two groups of women. The irony is that many of these women are short themselves, and many will go on to have short sons irrespective of the height of the man they end up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:46 PM
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She’s most likely an average to below average woman who finds it effortless to obtain sex/meaningful relationships with men at or above her league, and thus can’t fathom how certain men can be unfairly discriminated for things out of their control since she has never experienced that sort of judgment from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:55 PM
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3% is way off. Historically 80% of women have been able to pass on their genes, but that percentage is only 40% for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:18 AM
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Emphasis on the last sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:21 PM
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Well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:22 PM
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The women who are genuinely attracted to older men will continue to stay attracted, which is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:21 PM
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Oh you mean like the 18-yo college students who have no concept of the real world yet? Don't think your little psyop attempt has much sway after they graduate. Money and status always attract women, regardless of age. It's in their biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:10 PM
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Oh you mean like the 18-yo college students who have no concept of the real world yet? Don't think your little psyop attempt has much sway after they graduate. Money and status always attract women, regardless of age. It's in their biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:10 PM
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The recent age gap shaming is just older women attempting to stigmatize it so they can keep the high value older men to themselves. It's mostly being done out of self-interest. Since they've hit the wall and aren't being validated by men as much anymore, they feel like the older men who don't reciprocate interest in them are suddenly all pedos for preferring younger, ADULT women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:34 PM
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Yes, pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:33 PM
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The issue is that average women, unlike average men, are way more likely to have had sexual relationships with above-average people of the opposite gender going into the marriage. This causes many average women to think that they are better than their average guy husband since they believe that their past above-average sex partners must also make them above average to some degree. Or they may feel this constant gnawing in their head telling them that they can do better. The average guy husband, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:54 AM
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Tall men and women are in cahoots with each other. The current system benefits them the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:30 PM
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See, that would require women to actually have empathy for men. But it’s not possible. They care too much about themselves and protecting their inflated egos. If you’re a feminist downvoting this, it’s only because you know I’m right and it makes you annoyed that men have you figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:19 PM
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So, no change from how it is today? Incredibly insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:21 PM
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Don't assume my intelligence is on your level. Maybe you should consider the possibility that I comment things to bring awareness of the reality to otherwise naive men who would be manipulated by scheming women. This is a public forum, so you bet I'm gonna take advantage of it and lead more men to the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:08 AM
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Your response was completely irrelevant to the OP other than answering the vague “thoughts?” mini-question, which by the way can be answered by spewing out any sort of mumble jumble, relevant or not. It’s irrelevant in all other respects because men deciding to stop slut shaming wouldn’t lower women’s egos one bit. You think that if women weren’t scrutinized for having a high body count, that their egos would then deflate and suddenly they would start finding other men attractive outside of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:40 PM
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Typical response from a woman that doesn't address any of the substance, ignores the fact that her logic has been exposed as faulty, serves only to DARVO, and only turns more men to the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:14 PM
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You may be one of the dumbest commenters I’ve seen on this sub yet. Funny how you blame women’s hyper-selectivity and attraction to a sliver of the entire male population on….the men themselves for forcing these women to have such unreasonable standards. Bet you majored in gender studies in college too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:05 PM
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Only because monogamy is our society’s default such that most are forced to lower their height standards over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:55 PM
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But you just provided a perfect description of people who are literally dumb. A reasonable person understands that complex issues are nuanced and that no individual, regardless of gender, is perfect. It is unreasonable (aka literally dumb) to constantly strive to distort the reality just to make 50% of the population feel like their gender is better than in reality. It is literally dumb to act that narcissistic while having zero capacity to self-reflect and extrapolate the possible consequences …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:53 PM
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The physical aspects that determine one's type are part of women's standards. Now, if you were to say that women's non-physical standards are perfectly reasonable, then you may be on to something. Also, the bar is in hell when most women share the same physical type. Unless women in general are fine with polygamy and sharing the same man, or being pumped and dumped by men above their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:20 PM
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That's kinda how women view just about any double standard that they actively perpetuate. They love using DARVO to brush anything that reflects poorly on women under the rug. Out of sight, out of mind. They really think that men are as stupid as them and will simply just fall in line like all the other sheep in the sisterhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:10 PM
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Found the woman who looks like Bella Ramsey.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:04 PM
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It’s outshining your dimness at every turn. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:43 PM
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It’s funny how much of a hypocrite you are. The irony is that the steps outlined in the OP are essentially mirroring what women do to men. So you’re pretty much condoning double standards as long as women are benefitting and men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:24 PM
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Women will say this until they really do get old and lonely. But by that age it’ll be too late because no normal man will want to settle down with someone that old. So they grow bitter and live on the Internet, telling anyone who will lend them an ear that they are happy and satisfied with their lives. But the reality is that they aren’t, because otherwise they wouldn’t be living on the Internet projecting their misery and sadness and pretending to be living their best life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:23 PM
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You completely ignore that women's standards are influenced in part by how inflated their egos become. Things don't exist in a vacuum. Unless you want to argue that it is in women's nature to behave hypergamously and only desire the top 10-20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:00 AM
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You underestimate the degree to which average women are unable to differentiate their casual-dating value from their LTR-dating value. You can pretend like leagues don't really matter. But it doesn't change the fact that mutual, reciprocated attraction is key to a long-lasting, happy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:31 PM
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Not that I know personally, but paying for sex workers can be incredibly cheap. The men who can't afford it probably have way more important things to worry about lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:21 PM
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Don't women love to quip about how men are so simple? Women are constantly thinking about ways to fool/deceive men. Also, it's not exactly considered polite for a man to ask a woman, while on their first date, if she has ever gotten work done to her face, or how her bare face looks like, or whether she is using face tape/eyelid tape/nose inserts in that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:14 PM
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It's because he is clean-shaven on the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:03 PM
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I believe you. It's why they need bigger egos to compensate and cope, and to project their low self esteem onto men. For example, short women despising short (and average height) men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:00 PM
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It's about simping for women in the same league or higher. Not lower. Not even about above average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:38 PM
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You and the other person were bringing up these extreme cases of some men's sexual behavior to demean men as a whole. I'm merely bringing up that some women engage in those same exact behaviors. Those men are lowlifes. Nothing to object there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:28 PM
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Irrelevant cause I was responding to your comment about men fucking corpses. Btw, women do as well: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10345329.2023.2238378#abstract
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:21 PM
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Women do the same. Women also commit necrophilia. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10345329.2023.2238378#abstract
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:16 PM
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Men need to stigmatize simp-like behavior, especially when the simps are simping for women less attractive than themselves. We can still change the future even if we can't change the present.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:14 PM
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Huh? Why would I care about inflating some escort's ego? They're not even part of the dating pool as far as the average man is concerned. The point is for men to not sleep down and cause women (not in the sex industry) to become delulu about their relationship value and what they bring to the table vs. what the man brings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:48 PM
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You may not be, but plenty of others are. It's why so many feminists are actively trying their hardest to inject and social engineer as much misinformation online and in real life as possible. They understand the stakes at hand, and that the pendulum is always shifting. If Trump being reelected didn't stir anything in you, then you should keep your head buried in the sand as men continue to adapt to their adverse circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:47 PM
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You sound like an average woman who is deathly afraid of losing out on your average woman privilege in the dating market. You guys have the most to fear about any potential re-calibration of dating privilege between the genders. I can understand your personal fears over the implications/ramifications of what I'm suggesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:08 PM
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The manosphere is rising in influence. Trump was elected back into office. A small legion of men needs to start being the change they want to see, and then maybe it can be snowballed into something greater. Men are more likely to be objective, so we simply need to use facts and a solution-oriented plan to bring awareness about today’s reality. If men were able to be systemically brainwashed to pedestalize women, they can by systemically brainwashed to not pedestalize women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:03 PM
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It’s demonstrated by numerous studies of women’s dating preferences and behaviors when using dating apps. Stop conflating inflated egos with feeling good about themselves. The former is associated with seeking/feeling entitled to unreasonable dating outcomes, which negatively affects both women and men. But we both know that you already knew that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:58 PM
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You know a woman has lost the argument when she finally pulls out her trump card - likening you to the bottom 0.001% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:54 PM
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You mean the market that has been influenced by society’s systemic brainwashing of men to pedestalize women? Nah, that would be the dumbest thing for men to continue to allow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:51 PM
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Never mentioned turning it off completely. Men simply need to conduct themselves better when it comes to seeking women. There is an element of optics to it as well. Women are obviously going to feel secure and have inflated egos if men in general exhibit exaggerated/unreasonable demand for (any) women. They are also likely to not respect/be repulsed by men who have low/few standards, since that is seen as desperate and too easy. On the other side, too many men are blinded by irrational thinking …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:46 PM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm sure all Susan Boyle needs is external validation from other women to boost her ego. That must make her feel confident and sexy, 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:13 PM
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You hardly sound objective. Why? Because you're not even in the dating pool and on top of that, old, so you literally have no reasonable understanding of any of the issues being discussed. I would love to be the one to unite, but all I can do for my own part is to bring more awareness about reality. Not gaslight and deflect, like what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:10 PM
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Society brainwashes both men and women from a very early age. It brainwashes men to pedestalize women and provide for them, and it brainwashes women to believe they are perfect and deserve everything. You act as if people's present-day actions are not informed by/related to societal norms. People's behaviors are rooted in how they are raised/educated growing up and are directed by prevailing norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:03 PM
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The wealth of evidence everywhere has made it the presumption that Western women do have inflated egos. The onus is on you to prove that women don't have inflated egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:58 PM
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Society brainwashes both men and women from an early age. It brainwashes men to pedestalize women and provide for them, and it brainwashes women to believe they are perfect and deserve everything. You act as if people's present-day actions are not informed/related to societal norms and how people are raised/educated growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:54 PM
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If men start viewing dating apps as a way to find LTR only, and sex work is legalized to allow men to more easily satisfy their urges for casual sex, then fewer women would be pumped and dumped by men above their league, allowing more women to understand their true relationship value.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:50 PM
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This is the type of drivel peddled by feminists that is designed to devolve any convo about men's modern dating issues. You're blatantly ignoring the fact that most/many women nowadays have overinflated egos, compared to men. As long as you overlook that fact, you will never have the ability to engage with men's dating issues in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:42 PM
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Thanks for your non-contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:33 PM
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Yes, end unreasonable simping. More men need to bully simps. Simps need to be more afraid/wary of coming off as simps online and irl. I personally call out simp-like behavior all the time and encourage others to do as well. Shaming is always a valid tactic on both women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:30 PM
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The manosphere is only increasing in influence. And it's in men's nature to adapt and survive when facing adverse conditions. If you doubt that change can be made, just sit back and watch the fun unfold. Men organized Trump back into office, and a lot more can be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:26 PM
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It may become a factor if men start viewing dating apps as a way to find LTR only. Their urges for casual sex could be more easily satisfied with a legalized sex industry. Social norms take time to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:24 PM
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If you're married, then you lack the authority and experience to speak on modern dating issues. The degree of your inability to relate to current reality only magnifies the older you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:06 PM
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Interesting. Then it seems like a collective recalibration of men's thirst/pedestalization of women is necessary. Legalizing sex work would still help facilitate that process.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:03 PM
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Close. Yours and women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:59 PM
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And that makes you pathetic to just about every woman and every man who actually has higher-than-hell standards for women. Desperate men's collective desperation is what drives dating problems for men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:58 PM
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It's literally not hard at all. Legalize sex work, and everything changes. Or men can build up more in-group cohesiveness to emulate women's. With the rise of the manosphere, this is way more achievable than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:46 PM
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Because women have way more in-group cohesiveness, which men must emulate to an extent. Most women have egos, so you'd be hamstringing your own chances of success. The best odds would be obtained by removing/reducing such egos altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:43 PM
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Nope, I'm just using logic that would fly in other circles, if you catch my drift ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:40 PM
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By that logic, most women are very pathetic, which means you are being misogynistic and are an enemy to women!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:32 PM
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Nothing in the OP suggests that women are damaged goods from simply having sex with men. Your comment shows that you have nothing intelligent or relevant to add to the discussion. It's literally just outlining a way to bring women's egos back down to earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:30 PM
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And the average man should be punished for not being 6' or being in the top 10-20% of men? Keep ignoring the real reasons that drive modern dating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:26 PM
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Wrong. Men should simply turn to sex workers instead of attempting to casually date. It ends up costing less most of the time anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:25 PM
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Men have already been socially engineered to pay for dates and court women for the end goal of sex. So you're completely wrong about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:23 PM
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Which is why they should turn to sex workers instead of attempting to casually date. It ends up costing less most of the time anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:22 PM
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Negging doesn't necessarily imply that the woman being negged has an unreasonably high perception of herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:21 PM
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Like the sisterhood doesn't have any secrets? Sure, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:10 PM
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Men were able to organize Trump back into office pretty easily. I don't know the type of losers you hang out with, but thanks for the admission I guess. And men don't need luck to carry this out, they just simply need to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:06 PM
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Happy to help, sounds like you needed it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:01 PM
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This. Most of men's problems arise from the fact that we allow women, as a group, to hold so much leverage over us. Literally men just need to stop giving them/severely limit the validation/attention/material possessions that we've been giving them. It's really not that hard, esp since most women truly aren't that impressive, just like how most men aren't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:58 PM
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More like men need to learn when they are being deceived. Women tend to conflate their fake face for their natural one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:51 PM
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Which is why we need to educate the men who lack the awareness/knowledge. Women are good at guarding their secrets, but not perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:43 PM
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https://www.stevestewartwilliams.com/p/how-men-and-women-rate-each-other For your education
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:41 PM
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This is exactly why men are painted as having extremely low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:33 PM
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I was fooled until I got to the end lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:14 PM
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Yeah it definitely was wayyyy easier for the older generations of men to fulfill women's expectations of a "real man." Feminism has allowed women to shirk the responsibilities of traditional women while at the same time continuing to demand that men stick to their traditional roles. Women are full of shit about it because they understand very well just how much they get to benefit from the current system in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:06 PM
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It's not very hard to explain that many women nowadays have overinflated egos and believe they're special and entitled to certain dating outcomes just because they were lucky enough to be born as a woman. The average 4-6/10 woman views her looksmatch as ugly and beneath her, and holds onto the delusion that she is worthy of a top 10-20% man just because she got pumped and dumped by one many years ago. Women are raised to believe they are perfect and shouldn't change for any man because if he doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:32 PM
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How does preferring those characteristics have any relation to being a pedo? And why do so many women use the Internet to project their bitterness while blatantly ignoring misandry and double standards targeting men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:44 AM
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Pink pussy/small areola/pink nipple energy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:50 AM
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This is the closest one, but it’s not perfect since tightness isn’t visible. Imo it should be pink pussy energy (many men prefer pink tones and many women aren’t pink down there). Other ones include small areola energy/pink nipple energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:46 AM
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The prerequisite that must be met before women even start to consider these other expectations is that she finds the man attractive. Society needs to give people more shit for trying to date out of their league. Most people are average, women included. Men also need to raise their ridiculously low standards in women. It's pathetic to see average and above average men putting average and below average women on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:20 PM
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Oh boy, lots of supposedly happy and content women getting awfully triggered by this post pointing out the reality of miserable, single women. Thanks for the confirmation, ladies!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:29 PM
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A determination of a high value person is based on what the person’s opposite sex deems high value. Attractive, young heiresses would obviously entice most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:32 AM
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Those “most unreasonable” opinions gain the most popularity because they literally reflect what the women most believe to be true. And the women who disagree behave too much like sheep to go against the sisterhood. Women don’t really have to try very hard to make men lose respect for their cognitive abilities and dare I say intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:08 AM
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Men need to start creating social consequences for sexist people like the one in the OP. Start calling them more out in public. Stop turning a blind eye/ear. Making them feel uncomfortable for being openly sexist. Spreading the word to other likeminded people to start ostracizing them or befriending them. Denying them opportunities that belong to more deserving people. Men should also create a huge FB group that parallels the women’s Are We Dating the Same Guy group. Fight fire with fire. If the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:56 AM
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Any woman who believes this is also outing herself as a racist, sexist, and misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:50 AM
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Another impressive display of strawmanning! I never once said anything about women not having anything of value to give in return. Obviously the man has to believe he will derive some type of value from any relationship he enters into. The fact remains that when it comes to LTR, women are much more likely to select for material benefits as opposed to looks because they simply care a lot more about the socioeconomic status of their partner than men do. As a result, women are way less likely than …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 06:53 PM
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Men also provide for women that are as average and/or ugly as them. And women are way less likely than men to want to provide for someone who is prettier and younger than them. When it comes to LTR, women are much more likely to select for material benefits as opposed to looks because they simply care a lot more about the socioeconomic status of their partner than men do. But keep trying to defy reality. I'm sure you'll burn a few calories mentally over time!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 06:21 PM
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The correlation between married men and higher salaries is simply due to sexual selection on the part of women who want men with good careers and higher earning potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:49 PM
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Of course the man thinks he's also going to benefit. But he's also entering the relationship with the intention and awareness that the woman will benefit greatly from his resources and ability to provide. On the other hand, the female equivalent of the aforementioned man would, almost always, not even look twice at a man who she deems beneath her socioeconomically. And she would spit in his face if he dared show any interest in her. In the woman's mind, being with a man who she views beneath her…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:26 PM
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Female nature in full display.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 03:51 PM
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Bingo. This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 03:05 PM
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Youth is a much greater halo for women than for men. Height for men works the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 03:03 PM
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They can express their true feelings and thoughts within limits. Even some ideas that’d be considered tame on this sub may be viewed as not so tame in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:09 AM
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Men are way more likely than women to date someone who is lower than them in socioeconomic status. In such relationships, both parties have the expectation that the man's role is to provide material wealth and also lift the woman out of poverty and/or increase her standard of living/status. Women aren't so charitable with men they deem beneath them. In fact, they seem to actively hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:18 AM
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Women view not being able to land a top 10-20% man as settling, even when they are just as average as their partner who they "settled" for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:08 PM
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You're not wrong. In an ideal world, treating other humans with kindness regardless of how they look should be the standard. But that doesn't change the fact that this world is far from ideal, and hatred is around every corner and on many people's minds. It's why so much hatred is expressed online. Because it's actually real. The caveat to this is that there is some selection bias that goes into online posting. As a result, online spaces are a reflection of reality, but oftentimes there is some …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:50 PM
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With anonymity, people can finally say what they truly believe. If anything, the way people conduct themselves online is a more genuine representation of who they are than the mask they need to put on when interacting with the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:42 PM
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Indeed I am. But many, if not most feminists, genuinely believe what I said to a certain extent. There is power in victimhood because the default expectation is to treat victims with golden/kid gloves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:59 PM
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Aren't women incapable of being wrong? They can't even have bad intentions. Even if it seems like they do, it's merely the patriarchy enforcing misogynistic ideas such as women having the ability to be in the wrong! Don't agree with me? This is why the bar is in hell for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:50 PM
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Many women enter relationships purely for their own benefit. It's why they say they only enter relationships that generate value for them (notice how it's never about mutually generating value for each other or generating value for the man). Many were never really interested in true partnership, but rather a way to manifest/increase her status and brag about it with her friends who are equally as shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:18 PM
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You only say that because makeup is normalized for women but not for men. I think you’d be in for a surprise if you controlled for that factor and then tried comparing. I’ve realized many women tend to assess their attractiveness based on their made-up face for some reason. It’s been scientifically proven that men’s skin is thicker and more collagen dense than women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:49 PM
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Older men are still considered more attractive to the opposite sex than older women are. No amount of attempts to stigmatize age gap relationships will ever change that. Women who've hit the wall should just accept it and go for the men who can't get younger women. Otherwise, they will likely end up alone. The dating marketplace is meant to be competitive, as men know well from the very start.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:02 PM
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They do it in conjunction with disseminating misinformation and lies. The next generations of men won't be so naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:23 PM
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Women are truly masters of manipulation. Their most effective strategy was conditioning men into putting them on a pedestal. We've all heard women quip how "men are so simple." These "simple" men are only simple because they've been conditioned from a very young age. "Happy wife, happy life." "Women are fragile and need your protection." "You're a man, so you need to be a selfless provider for women." "Women are innately more beautiful than men." Women understand that pussy is their biggest powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:49 PM
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No man is denying that there are some women who have similar dating experiences as those of average and below average men. However, it's disingenuous to ignore that this shared category is completely dominated by men based on sheer numbers. The attractive male club is infinitely more exclusive than the attractive female club.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:21 PM
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I mean, I meant it honestly, and not as a personal insult. For example, there are women out there who want to avoid dating conservative men and look for hints on profiles to filter them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:33 PM
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Actually, men are objectified by women on a systemic level. They view men as the product, and themselves the consumer. Yet for some reason, they fail to objectively examine their own dating value despite becoming experts at objectifying men's dating value. Perhaps it would be in women's best interest to heed that very wise advice you just kindly provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:33 PM
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You people will label anything as "research" to further your hidden-right-in-the-open campaign of deception and manipulation. It's funny how women really think men are more likely to believe in misinformation, when all data and studies suggest that women make up a very large portion of global consumer spending, accounting for 85% or more of purchases. Why? Because they are so easily influenced by anything suggestive that they see. Women will literally believe anything as long as it makes them fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:08 PM
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There has been an increasing percentage of single women, at least in the US, for some time now. I'm sure that applies to the sub-population of very attractive women as well, at least to some extent. I imagine very attractive single women are even more picky, and may have even more unreasonable standards (absolutely speaking, but not relatively speaking since maybe it's more reasonable for them to have higher standards given their higher value) compared to average women such that their looksmatch…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:56 PM
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Nice fantasy you've crafted there. The reality is, women have created dead bedrooms by their own doing. When women believe that their dating value is higher than it really is (see our discussion above), they will always feel like they are settling for their equal match in men (usually an average man). Men don't view their equal matches as worth the time/money/emotional turmoil these women think they deserve (most women think they deserve more than average). The juice just isn't worth the squeeze…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:38 PM
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Women are like bikes. Once they are sold/marry, the bike/woman knows their true value. But as bikes/women age, they think their value somehow appreciates, and hope to be sold for a higher price to "become" higher-valued! Thanks for the laugh, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:27 PM
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How does any of that have any bearing on what I said? It's the ability to enter into a relationship that is connected to one's dating value in the dating marketplace, not the ability to keep a marriage alive forever. The latter involves many more variables outside of normal variables when it comes to assessing the overall attractiveness of an individual. Also, that way of assessing dating value is most applicable to women who mistakenly assess their dating value based on the tier of men that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:08 PM
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Just because a woman is getting a lot of attention from men on the apps, doesn't necessarily mean she is desirable. Many men will sleep with women they deem unattractive/less attractive than themselves. They're trying to get their release, and are not necessarily doing this out of desire for that particular woman. They are forced to take what they can get, and treat them like a dirty secret. The best way to measure a woman's worth is by examining the tier of men that is open to being in a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:49 PM
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But aren't women magically more innately beautiful than men? I look around and only see couples with supermodel wives and shrek husbands?? If anything, it's the women who have super low standards!!! There's no way that putting on pounds of makeup, taking advantage of hidden ways to transform features (face tape, eyelid tape, nostril inserts), and using plastic surgery wouldn't have an impact on people's perceptions at all !!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:27 PM
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Wrong. Go check the women’s fb group and find out for yourself. Scores of upset, vindictive women who feel slighted by men who they failed to pin down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 09:41 PM
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Women deal in misinformation for their benefit all the time. It's why making the sisterhood impenetrable/unaccountable from every angle is so important to many women. Women love to quip about how "men are so simple." These "simple" men are only simple because they've been conditioned to put women on a pedestal from a very young age. "Happy wife, happy life." "Women are fragile and need your protection." "You're a man, so you need to be a selfless provider for women." "Women are innately more bea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:23 PM
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Just because you don’t agree with something, doesn’t make it misinformation lol. What sort of misinformation are you referring to? Also just take a look around you. Society has mainly become this advanced due to the efforts of intellectual men who explored their curiosity and uncovered fundamental truths about our world. Men’s commitment to discovering the truth has always been innate and necessary for the survival of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:58 PM
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Yes. Men care about objectivity and analyze things logically. They care more about what’s right vs what’s wrong, and are prepared to argue with others to convince them of their position. Women, OTOH, shirk objectivity for subjectivity because it’s easier to convince others (and themselves) if it’s not as black/white. They care more about analyzing things based on their emotions and how they are made to feel. And since women always give the benefit of the doubt to other women, this focus on subje…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:26 PM
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For sure, it's not as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:51 AM
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Imo status is all about having what women believe is deemed desirable by other women (since women's attraction to men is more relative than absolute). So status can be linked to all sorts of things, such as certain heights, certain races, certain professions, certain luxuries, etc. But women don't usually just hyper-fixate on one of these categories. They analyze the total package. So status is really based on how attractive a woman perceives a man is, with all he has to offer, to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:45 AM
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They can disagree all they want. Their beliefs don't negate the possibility that there may be enough women in the world who actually do behave in accordance with those "misogynistic stereotypes" such that learning about the manosphere would be a net positive to most men who would otherwise fall victim to the manipulative tactics of women who are looking to exploit them. Not all stereotypes are equal. Some are more rooted in reality than others. If ever increasing waves of men, even many who used…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:33 AM
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There def are a lot of femcels among them, but I also think a lot of them are women of average attractiveness, who secretly do understand, perhaps through lived experiences, just how much dating/pretty privilege they have over men. Women in general feel threatened by the manosphere because it exposes their nature for all naive men to learn, which takes away some of the edge women have by limiting their ability to manipulate those otherwise naive men. This is a big no-no to many women, as losing …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:13 AM
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Society needs to expunge the idea that women are morally superior to men. Although I can freely admit that in the totality, men as a group definitely commit more atrocities and harm compared to women as a group, that view shouldn't have any bearing when comparing two individuals of different genders. Most likely, the morality of human beings is normally distributed, with most people falling somewhere in the middle of the spectrum between bad and good. It's just that the prevalence of extreme out…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:55 PM
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Of course it matters that I would have wanted to date them before all the work. That should be the default expectation. I have every right to know what features have a good chance of being passed on to my children. It matters to me because I want to do what I can to increase the odds of my children having pretty privilege. It is a massive advantage in life to have, and it'd be silly in 2025 to deny it. Given women's standards for men today, if I have a son I want to try my best to ensure that he…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:33 AM
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Sounds like projection if you ask me. In 2025 I think society can agree that pretty privilege is a real thing. To maximize the quality of my future children’s lives, I want to do what I can to increase the odds that they have pretty privilege since it’s the closest thing to having a cheat code in life other than being born to a wealthy family. To have pretty privilege naturally is safer/healthier for my future children than it is to expect them to resort to going under the knife eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:06 AM
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uh not really if my personal/dating/professional life is at risk, since apparently some of these women will go to great lengths and even dox/make up lies as revenge
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 12:17 AM
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Isn't it a thing for women to go on the women's fb group and tarnish the reputation of men whom they feel lied about wanting something serious just so they could sleep with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 11:52 PM
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Then anyone who wants to reproduce with another because they feel attracted to the other person's physical characteristics is "dabbling in eugenicist thought." That attraction is rooted in evolutionary biology of wanting to pass on the genes of what you view as a better fit for your offspring. Also, that man's individual opinion alone is not an indictment for what the rest of society should also think. It's just his own. If you really are that hung up over the use of the term, then it can instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 11:46 PM
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You mean telling the woman that he is dating with that consideration in mind? Sure, why not. I imagine lots of women have that same consideration as well, even if it does sound shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 11:09 PM
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I always assumed it would be considered very offensive. Like wouldn't "oh btw, just wondering if that nose/face is real or not lol" come off as rude to many women? Even if it is a real nose/face?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:45 PM
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Fair take. Guess maybe it's better if the man lets it slip early on that he isn't a fan of significant plastic surgery. That way the woman knows where the man stands and can then act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:27 PM
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I didn't make that comparison because women still comprise the vast majority of those (in America) who get cosmetic procedures done. Apparently there has been a recent rise in men getting them done, but from all the stats I see online, men still only make up like 13-15% of the total. There definitely are levels to it in terms of whether it can be hurtful for a man to find out his partner has hidden plastic surgery from him. I think the more plastic surgery that is hidden, the more likely of an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:22 PM
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I'm not sure why you're accusing me of being eugenicist just for preferring to have children with a woman whose real face and features I'm aware of (ideally as soon as possible in the dating stages if I'm dating for serious reasons). Is that not a normal, reasonable want for a person with a natural face to have? You asked "who determines what is objectively attractive." Obviously the man since we're only considering his personal opinion on how'd he prefer his future children to look. Just like h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:57 PM
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If you're getting nit-picky over the use of "impossible," be my guest. But you know exactly what I mean. If a woman were to get her eye shaped differently, it'd be way more likely for her children to have her original eye shape than the shaped one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:40 PM
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You answered the question yourself. It doesn't affect me if I liked her natural looks anyways. But how would I know that in the first place without having knowledge of her plastic surgery? It's also pretty consequential to conceal plastic surgery (if it's significant enough that the person you're dating wouldn't date you minus the work) and waste the time of someone who doesn't suspect a thing. And sometimes it's never revealed. Don't you feel like that's screwing over the man if he is expecting…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:29 PM
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They're both potential deal-breakers to many of the opposite sex, if revealed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:16 PM
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Not really. Eventually if things go anywhere, the woman will easily find out if the man is lying about his height. Past work and dating intentions can be hidden for much longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:15 PM
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Think the majority of onlookers would have to disagree with you there. I eviscerated whatever "logic" you purport to have, while you failed to provide any rebuttal back other than mentioning some obvious truth and anecdotal evidence that has no force whatsoever. Your attempt to gaslight me on something extremely obvious to the majority of onlookers is also very obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:18 PM
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Nothing you say has any merit at all. No duh a guy's overall attractiveness is more important. But height makes up a significant and crucial portion of that overall attractiveness. It's plain gaslighting to pretend as if height gaps are not specifically sought out by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:08 PM
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Tbh I'm not a huge fan of significant age gaps either. Everything has to be in reason and balance of course. Personally, I believe a 45+ yo man has no business dating women younger than 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:02 PM
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It's silly how hard you are trying to gaslight me about women not wanting (unreasonable) height gaps. You must be really out of the loop. In the last few years, with the ever increasing proportion of people meeting through online dating, and women being inundated with more and more matches from various types of men, height has become the easy, convenient metric for many women to use to quickly filter out the vast majority of men for something totally out of their control. You saying that you "kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:53 PM
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Still doesn't negate what I said since you're speaking about your personal preferences. Let's not pretend as if one single woman who doesn't practice the norm suddenly serves as evidence that the norm doesn't exist. Obviously, younger women are the most sought after age group (men of all age groups statistically find women in their 20s the most attractive). Which means that younger women are very competitive to get, The reasons that allow a man in his 30s to compete on that level against younger…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:13 PM
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Agree with everything you've been saying, except that I do believe misandry being normalized online and in modern discourse very much has a systemic impact. For example, racism has systemic effects on how people view others with certain characteristics, and those feelings translate into real world interactions that directly harm/dehumanize those who are being viewed as less than. This is not only relevant to dating contexts, but social contexts in general such as making friends, getting hired, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:04 PM
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Doesn't negate at all the truth of my statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:51 PM
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Less than 1% of women who make up false rape allegations go to prison. See, it's not very hard to make up facts, as some women who lie about being SA'd know very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:49 PM
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You're truly a fool or not connected to the corporate world if you really think there are no quotas in hiring. Plenty of women edge out more competitive men on paper due to such quotas.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:44 PM
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Keep coping. The older men who are successful with younger women are the catch for older women, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:20 PM
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Just a manipulation tactic by these 30+ yo women. They're trying hard to create a social stigma for purely self-serving reasons. They know that the older men who can get younger women are the catch, and hate that they can't compete for the top tier men in their age bracket anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:17 PM
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Speak for yourself, not all men are simping for the first, second, or even third woman who shows him attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:50 PM
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I don’t think you are what you say you are ;) keep on roleplaying on the Internet sweetie
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:14 AM
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They reveal themselves so quickly LOL sorry for triggering your insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:11 AM
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You saying this does nothing to influence my standards, but feel free to keep trying. In today's world where height gaps (among a slew of other unreasonable standards) sought by women are normalized, it should be perfectly fine for age gaps sought by men to be normalized as well. Your attempts at shaming are trivial, and I will continue to stick to dating younger women. Why? It's a valid dating strategy from my perspective. Why would a man risk dating women in their 30s when there is a much grea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:49 AM
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ITT: Older women trying to mateguard the men in their age bracket after realizing that they can no longer compete with younger women. Women will never change their laundry list of standards which systemically objectify men, so it’s very hypocritical and selfish to try to change the few that men do have. I personally will never increase the upper limit of my age filter past 29. Any age older than that is a dealbreaker. Helps that I’m approaching 30 but look like I’m in my early 20s according to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:48 AM
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Just another radfem who feels triggered by men exposing the truth of the “sisterhood.” Their tactics revolve around obscuring the truth, gaslighting, strawmanning, focusing on semantics instead of the substance, moving goal posts, and lying. They do this because they deep down know they are partly guilty of something, and don’t want to be confronted with that reality. It’s why the general advice is to take anything a radfem says with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 05:30 PM
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Younger women are more likely to date casually, in which chase they have a different set of standards they prioritize, namely looks and height. As they get older and start dating more seriously, they start focusing more on other things, such as ability to provide and stability. And since the competition for the top percentile of men is fierce among women, in many cases, women are forced to lower their physical standards over time. At least that’s how online dating is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 05:09 AM
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No, never knew them beforehand. They were simply other students using Tinder. I’m sure this sort of stuff still happens today, but only for legit Chads and maybe those with terribly low standards. Hookup culture is just more exclusive these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:02 PM
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When I was in college, this was a much more common experience. Fast forward a decade. Ever since I entered the real world and started dating more mature/career-minded women, it seems like the standards for setting up the hookup all over text before meeting up are way higher now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:20 PM
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You are either a woman or extremely sheltered. Your personal anecdote does nothing to dispel the fact that more women expect the men to be interesting on dates than the other way around. On average of course. Mentioning an exception to the rule doesn't change the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 04:25 PM
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Women want to feel special, as if being part of the physically weaker gender entitles them to being treated with kid gloves, despite the fact that adult women are just as mentally developed as adult men. Society conditions women to think that acting narcissistic is normal because all or most men are oppressing them somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:14 PM
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I find it very funny how women fight tooth and nail to protect their image as if all men with even a little experience dating don’t already understand the very simple concept that women expect providers and are more concerned about material aspects. It’s like Dating 101 for men. The lack of self awareness is almost criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:44 PM
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Lol men are raised to believe that they lack value unless they can provide for others. That's way more selfless than expecting your partner to provide for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:53 AM
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Whether someone's standards are too high is really a case-by-case analysis. It is based on a calculus of what each party has to offer. It's not that overreaching of a statement to say that an average woman who holds out for the 6-6-6 "high value" man or some variation of it is being a little bit delusional about how they view themselves in relation to others. It's kinda funny how you're trying to lump me in with some bogus idea of men being super shallow yet also being hypocritical of women bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:09 AM
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Women these days have higher standards than ever before. If anything, it's less likely now that they'd entertain men with asymmetrical features than before. I, for one, would absolutely not hit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:52 PM
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6-10? Thought all women were 10's according to self-evaluators.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:41 PM
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Yep. Selection bias and basic correlation. The future is fewer and fewer marriages, that’s for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:13 PM
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The only outcome of this will be more resentful men, leading to even more resentful women. The number of conservative men will increase. Marriage and birth rates will continue to fall. The odds of younger people going on to receive social security benefits will become zero. Shit will really hit the fan once AI robopartners come to market. Or maybe not. Perhaps society will just have fewer humans with more robots to carry out human labor and replace human companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:59 PM
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Natural makeup is more in fashion these days. I bet you have come across many women who you think are barefaced but in reality do have some natural-looking makeup on. And since YouTube and information are so accessible these days, it’s not hard for girls to become makeup experts, esp if they are honing their craft everyday. There are also plenty of other enhancements other than makeup used by women that men may not even know exist. For example, face taping has become more mainstream, with celebr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:15 AM
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You clearly don't know the power of makeup then. It's very easy for a woman of below average attractiveness to go up at least a couple of points with just some makeup on. This is because it hides imperfections, and people with good makeup skills can literally change their features, such as applying contour to make their nose smaller. You don't even need skills to dramatically change one's face even - there are girls who wear nose inserts to make their nostrils/nose slimmer and that's just the ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:37 AM
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It's literally in the name...make-up. Makeup is all about making up your face. In other words, altering it from its original state. Just because people understand that bright red makeup isn't natural (btw many, many guys are clueless about the extent of enhancements/accessories women have access to - including fake lashes etc.), doesn't mean that makeup doesn't hide certain things about the wearer's face/appearance. This is why I believe men who grow out their beards to hide weak jawlines are be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:28 AM
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This. It’s all just a bunch of smoke and mirrors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:37 PM
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Think most men nowadays realize just how bad of a transaction marriages are for men. The expected value is negative in most cases, and even more so when the woman views the man as a beta provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:45 PM
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It's because many women tend to take things personally. Their reflex is to shame men who have preferences that seemingly exclude them. In their eyes, only they are allowed to express and have (high) standards for the opposite sex. Why? At the core, they think they are better/more attractive than men. Even men in their own league.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:07 PM
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Good faith is the kryptonite to much of their “logic,” so they avoid using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:56 AM
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Keep cosplaying as a man, my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 05:03 AM
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It's hard for women to understand this concept unless they literally experience how life is like on the other side. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 05:00 AM
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I get a lot of compliments about my skin, but that's because of my skincare routine. I may use a little bit of cover up to hide small blemishes, but that's about it. Agreed, hiding skin imperfections definitely helps. But I think my main point is that even if this sort of natural looking makeup were normalized for men, it would still not be enough to equalize the playing field in terms of male vs. female average attractiveness. Women still have so many tools to enhance their appearance outside o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:57 PM
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JD Vance is definitely leading the charge there (there is some debate over whether he's wearing eyeliner or has an extra set of eyelashes). The makeup worn by men in the public eye is very natural looking, and I don't think it necessarily enhances their dimorphic traits. Maybe makes their skin look better or hides skin imperfections. I could be wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:45 PM
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Haha I can relate to the skincare arsenal. It really makes a difference!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:32 PM
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You are missing some of the nuances here. First, you definitely can get a hint of someone's personality based on the prompts and hobbies/activities/social groups shown in the person's pictures. For example, one of my prompts is about an interesting fact about the existential, which I use to signal that I'm kinda an intellectual (at least imo lol), and I get a lot of likes from the intellectual girlies for that prompt. Second, the newest trend for girls is making height an even bigger deal. The a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:27 PM
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This is such an individual take that does not align with reality. Just like how men allow attractive women to get away with acting like a bitch, women allow attractive men to get away with acting like a dick, all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:08 PM
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Thanks for the advice, but it’s not exactly that easy lol. Most women, whether they want to admit it or not, would get the ick if they can tell that a guy has makeup on, unless maybe it’s makeup to cover up acne or something. Even with that said, makeup enhances women’s dimorphic traits and increases the femininity of women’s appearances. Perhaps there are makeup techniques to enhance the masculinity of men, but that much amount of makeup is certainly not normalized for men, at least not yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:50 PM
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I mean, given the current online dating scene, girls are prioritizing looks/height and then career/status.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:34 PM
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Imagine if makeup and other female enhancements were not a thing. With an equalized playing field, you would not be equating the looks of the average man to those of a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:31 PM
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OP can only get away with that insane take if she herself is at least like an 8/10. The funny thing is that most girls who claim that the average man (5/10) is unattractive are just as average themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:59 PM
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That's because choosing to be single vs. being involuntarily single are worlds apart. Women who choose to stay single still have the security of knowing that they can find hookups/support from men on the apps whenever they feel like it. They feel validated knowing that they have this ability to attract. Men who are incels truly live horribly lives that most women would find it impossible to fathom, and would much rather ignore the issue. Incels don't have the luxury of knowing they are liked and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 04:20 PM
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Your data is is based only on long-term relationships. Outside of this LTR context, what I said is absolutely true. But I appreciate you bringing up those statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 04:08 PM
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1) Disagree 2) No, how did you extrapolate that? I'm saying there is an asymmetry with respect to normalized, non-invasive ways for men and women to improve their appearance for the sake of better success in the dating game. Obviously men can improve their hair, skin, fashion, but those are all things women are allowed to do. When it comes to makeup, it is normalized for women to use makeup and most men wouldn't judge those who apply light-medium makeup. This is definitely not true the other way…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:15 PM
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Yeah I’ve revised my thought process on this and take it back
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:35 AM
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Fair points. Thanks for the contribution. But the fruit of the labor point really is not a lie. It really boils down to the asymmetry in the dating experiences between genders until ~age 35. I have multiple friends in their 30s who are completely enjoying the bachelor life now who don't want to settle down for the foreseeable future. The reason they don’t want to just yet is because, in their minds, they are only just getting started. They are, for the first time in their lives, finally experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:06 AM
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The order goes like this. Top tier guys are winning the most. Then it's the average woman. Then it's the average man. Then it's the incels and femcels, with femcels probably doing the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:30 AM
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I think makeup is honestly a social expectation and a privilege. This means that the women who don't use it are at a disadvantage, which forces makeup to become widely adopted by most of them. But women wanting to use makeup cannot be attributed solely to their desire for attention from men. Many simply want to look good for themselves. The fact that there is a double standard when it comes to makeup/artificial enhancements (women hate it when men are flashy and peacocking so to speak), means th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:26 AM
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It's not necessarily deterministic, but it def correlates with greater happiness on average, there's no doubt about that. Yeah, there are married couples who hate each other, but they are probably happier than the isolated virgin man who gave up after years of constant rejection and social messaging about how he is a failure as a man if he doesn't achieve this and that, and now no longer has any reason or drive to try to date or try in life anymore. It was over for these men before it even start…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:10 AM
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But the thing is, the men who are finally attracting all these women once they turn 35+ don't necessarily see this as a privilege, and more as the fruit of their own labor. The ones who didn't work on themselves in their 20s continue to face hardship in dating (a few may experience newfound success with increasingly desperate women approaching menopause), while those who did, are now only able to find relationships with women who heavily prioritize the man's ability to provide. It truly feels de…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:56 PM
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Fair take. Copying my reply to another commenter who brought up certain privileges that men have. We were discussing which gender has it better. ------ Fine, I'll admit that it's hard to determine, in the totality, whether women as a whole, or men as a whole, have it better. However, I do still believe the discrepancy of the suicide rates between genders serves as an objective metric to evaluate this question, although it may not be the only metric. Also, the gap in completion is not simply acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:19 PM
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Fine, I'll admit that it's hard to determine, in the totality, whether women as a whole, or men as a whole, have it better. However, I do still believe the discrepancy of the suicide rates between genders serves as an objective metric to evaluate this question, although it may not be the only metric. Also, the gap in completion is not simply access to a gun. Women who attempt suicide understand the likelihood of success using their means vs a gun, and specifically don't go out of their way to ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:15 PM
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Male vs female suicide rates tell a different story
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 10:40 PM
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Oh, I have already, trust me. But it doesn't belie the fact that not facing judgment from both genders for trying to improve your appearance is indeed a privilege for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 10:30 PM
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For the harem statement - women in their 20s and maybe 30s. But even ignoring that extreme, women of all age groups generally have an easier time attracting the other gender than men do, on average. The meme that older men have an easier time dating rings true only for those who worked on themselves in their 20s and became accomplished men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 10:23 PM
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Women have the privilege of society normalizing their use of makeup and other alterations to enhance their appearance. This is not true the other way. Many men get jealous/insecure of men who work on their appearance (I'm assuming at the core they don't like facing extra competition), while many women get the ick because of their own limited definitions of what a "real" man is. But yes, you're right that it's not a privilege that women are more savvy when it comes to forging social and support g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 10:10 PM
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What sort of logic is this lol. It's not a 1:1 ratio. Our society/dating is quickly turning into a harem for women, where they have their pick of the litter, choosing only the best, while discarding everything else. Never has it been a better time alive to be a top-tier guy. Which is why these top-tier guys discard these women who are shooting for the moon, thereby creating an endless toxic loop of unsatisfied women and men. The top-tier guys are winning tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 09:55 PM
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HAHAHA i first had it flaired as a discussion and not a debate. But I'm also open to hearing the other side's points and changing my views.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 09:50 PM
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Exactly, the pendulum is always swinging. She sounds like someone who has an inordinate amount of ego, esp for a self-admitted average woman, which is causing her to view the world through a very privileged and self-serving lens, while completely missing the bigger picture. I can assure you that if more men understood the degree to which the average woman lacks empathy for the average man, and gender relations continue to deteriorate, society will be going through an upheaval within our lifetime…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 09:27 PM
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Pretty much. And it’s not exactly empathy since women considering only the female perspective is self-serving in nature - they are aware that building extreme in-group solidarity affords each one of them (or most of them) immense privileges, acting as both a sword and shield.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:42 AM
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Studies show that human beings have 2x more female ancestors than male ancestors, which suggests that a greater percentage of women end up passing on their genes vs men due to sexual selection selecting against lower value men. On the flip side, higher value men are able to have more partners and also more children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:11 AM
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Agreed. I also keep my opinions to myself for the exact same reasons. Within online dating, women have become incredibly privileged when it comes to receiving validation and forming casual/serious relationships with higher value matches. Hypergamy is currently at an all time high. Unfortunately, it’s usually very difficult to speak with women in good faith about the “issue” as those who benefit from it, for good reason, don’t want their privilege challenged. When you’re accustomed to privilege, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:42 PM
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Women don’t like it when men have standards. One of my female friends is known for having hard-to-meet height standards as the topic comes up at least a couple times each time we hang out. She frequently emphasizes how she is only interested in men who are 6’+, and ideally 6’3. Which is fine and all, esp since she is on the taller side, but when I mentioned how my 5’11 bro’s ideal height is 5’7, she looked offended and said that someone who’s only 5’11 isn’t tall enough to hold that preference…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:22 AM
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