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It is their responsibility that they act this way but they are indoctrinated. Wow, this is the first time this happened to you? I live in NYC and this has happened to me about 5,000 times with virtually every woman I know. In fact I have never met a woman in my entire life who does not feel like men have all the power and women have none (even though every single girl I know has a great job and can live on her own and doesn't seem to have any problems financially or personally). It used to be mi…
/r/MensRights14/12/12 04:19 PM
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Yeah, I've read lots of feminist texts, I've read the communist manifesto and Das Kapital. To say they do not come from the same soil is pure ignorance or a denial of reality.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 04:12 PM
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Actually, although the exchange was riddled with childish ad homs, I think the person had a good point. If you are going to make a claim, back it up with evidence or go away. Too many people refuse to explain their position and just vomit it up and think everyone should agree with them. And even if you are too lazy to make the argument yourself at least link to some material which backs up your claims. If you can't do that you are just wasting time.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 04:09 PM
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What you are saying in the first paragraph is true, but what i am saying is still true as well. In other words what you say here does not rule outwhat i am saying. Even if one assumes 75% would abort if the father opts out its still approximately 300,000 babies per year which would grow up fatherless. I think this would become a major social problem within only a few years. In ten years that would be 3,000,000 kids in the country who have been raised with single mothers...this is not cool. I don…
/r/MensRights13/12/12 04:26 AM
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"you are characterizing as "pro-life" as an argument that women not be able to engage in adoption procedures without a legally established father consenting, and that safe surrender laws be eliminated." I'm not really doing that. Safe haven laws actually are balanced in most states, at least on paper. Men or Women can give up a child no questions asked. The other partner can call the police and search for their child and take custody of them at any time. This actually recently happened in Utah a…
/r/MensRights12/12/12 08:26 PM
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I absolutely can. In fact, this post is specifically pointing out that there are three distinct ways of viewing this issue. I pointed out which camp I am in. This post is essentially a clarification of my previous post, which was sort of bombarded with pro-choice activism nonsense. I know there are three opinions and obviously I think mine is the most sensible one, but I would not mind respectfully engaging in debate over this issue. To brand me a pro-lifer with an agenda is not fair. It would b…
/r/MensRights12/12/12 08:18 PM
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I am mostly aligned with theignoredgender's position, I am not religious but pro-life. I think parents should take responsibility for their risky behavior and that it is not a human right to opt out of taking responsibility for one's own risky behavior via abortion or financial abortion. I also don't think a financial abortion is sustainable socially and consequently abortion should go down with it, being that I am an egalitarian. (for clarity on my position on abortion, not to make this an issu…
/r/MensRights12/12/12 06:27 PM
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(continued) However, there has also been a shift towards using "average," such as "an average man is stronger/taller/has a deeper voice than the average woman." Mostly, I think this has been in response to several men pointing out that they have faced women aggressors who were stronger, and it is unfair to expect the man to always be able to be able to protect himself successfully. Just yesterday, this correction was made in a thread about assault (woman on man) in /r/feminism. There is no probl…
/r/MensRights18/11/12 06:35 PM
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Some time ago, there was a discussion on 2x about the men's rights movement. To paraphrase a rather upvoted comment: the feminists who fought for women's rights were needed. There are still some fronts where women face inequitable barriers, and these areas need more work. On the fronts in which feminists have now overstepped, that is where men's rights activists come in. This is the stance I take as well. I do call myself a feminist. This buntzums does not speak for all feminists. For whatever r…
/r/MensRights18/11/12 06:35 PM
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"Actually, most feminists, at least the ones on 2x, feel the same way with the genders reversed. Perhaps there was some miscommunication at some point." Actually this isn't a symmetrical issue. The feminist movement began PRIOR to the MRM and is far larger, perhaps epically larger, totally entrenched in colleges, politics, the media, and even wriggling it's way into business and pretty much every facet of life imaginable. It has a long history and it's extraordinarily broad in the western world.…
/r/MensRights18/11/12 05:51 AM
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Weird stuff. But very sweet. I liked this. I don't agree with it but I like it.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 05:05 AM
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The masses are asses. Most do not think logically.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 05:04 AM
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Excellent analogy. Feminists do not engage in rational discourse and so should be viewed as children and not taken seriously (with the except of those few who do indeed have a reputation for sound rational thought backed by demonstrable proofs who display compassion for both sexes...but this is like as rare as a diamond and so it's essentially best to just avoid any debating with them and just discuss the issues amongst ourselves)
/r/MensRights17/11/12 05:00 AM
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I basically just approach them with aggressive attitude and insults right off the bat. I've learned from experience that this is where they go with arguments almost every time anyway and so better to just get down to business. I don't waste time crafting any rational discussion, it's like taking time to strategize a game of chess with someone who doesn't give a shit about the rules...Either don't play with them at all or cut to the chase before they do.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 04:57 AM
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That's better than dealing with women's bullshit imo.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 04:54 AM
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I didn't say they were undebatable, I said that in general they are irrational. You can debate with them all they want, but you will spend 99% of your time straightening out apex fallacies, ad hominem attacks against you as a person, cherry picking, blatant double standards, etc... The oddest thing about feminists and the biggest red flag of all, is that most MRA's doesn't disagree that women have gender specific issues they just think men ALSO have them. Feminism is a movement of systematically…
/r/MensRights17/11/12 04:53 AM
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Ugh, no wonder i leave reddit the very day i decide to go back. Man, its like fuckingimpossible to have any kind of productive conversation...waste of time.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 05:10 PM
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Wtf is your problem asswipe? Are you some kind of a gigantic red tight asshole with roids? Go the fuck away
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:58 PM
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Wrong, I interpret feminism in four waves and these are the waves, dont like it? I DO NOT GIVE A SHAT
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:57 PM
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Holy fucking troll fuck off
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:55 PM
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Omg, GO AwaY!!..dickhead. You have NOTHING to add to this conversation except the most idiotic vacuous comments. God you suck
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:47 PM
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I actually agree that partner robots are the most beneficial, but perhaps the least realistic. Due to the latter issue, i think it needs to go on the back burner. The misandry in the dictionary could perhaps be the first issue we fight for. It could be the easiest issue to pass.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:44 PM
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Hahaha...lets make jokes instead of addressing mens rights issues. Very clever strategy.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:39 PM
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I think, on general, most feminists are female and that women can get by in life using their appearances to fall back on. There isnt as much pressure on women to maintain rationality...if a woman is dumb or doesn't make a good argument she can just throw a temper tantrum or act like a child in 50 different ways and cruise by because she has a pleasant appearance and men want to get in her panties. Men do not have that luxury and have to craft arguments like a blacksmith in a workshop, using thou…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:34 PM
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What am i saying that is feminist you mush head? I think you are a troll. Not interested in further discussion w/u you are drawing attention away from this topic.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:23 PM
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This distinction is important but either way, if men choose or not, they are both mens rights issues. In the case of the former it reflects the average duties of the gender role, in the case of the latter its state coercion.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:21 PM
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Yeah ummm....it's "patriarchy" that "says" these things about men...not feminists...derrrrr
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:17 PM
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Based on the derpy comments i got here, it makes sense why the mrm isnt going anywhere...i mean holy fucking shit. Someone advocates getting everyone on the same page and DOING SOMETHING rather than talking and the gets DOWNVOTED? Holy stupid motherfuckers. I'll stick to youtube....Smarter mra's there
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:11 PM
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I meant IN DIALECTICS. Dialectics only goes so far. Barbarossaaaa stopped speaking directly to feminists and just addressed the issues and he seriously stomped feminisms guts out. Anyone who has read Nietzsche will know that dialectics are a pathetic way of overcoming an irrational enemy. I am informed enough, ive been studying mens rights since arguseyes was making videos way back when there were almost no MRAs online and nobody agreed with the philosophy at all. You have no idea how qualified …
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:04 PM
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Honestly, this is the last post im making in this paranoid dumbass thread in this comments section. Whoever i am is irrelevant. The bottomline is that strategy will help the mrm. Feminists tackle issue by issue. The first wave was sufferrage, the second wave was birth control, the third wave was abortion, and the newest brands of feminism approach the wage gap. Its INTELLIGENT to follow that pattern of success and to center around one issue at a time and to strategize on how to make it happen. B…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:56 PM
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Holy fucking paranoia batman. I have little else to say except that you are a paranoid dunce. Making a comment that Mras should strategize collectively is not a feminist plot to undermine the MRM. Jesus use your fucking head dumbass. Wow reddit is filled with some seriously argumentative motherfuckers.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:50 PM
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I think the poster was pointing out that women manipulate men with sex...but i agree with you and think its more of an issue that women manipulate men on a whole variety of ways. Dating a woman and getting married is about having a partner in life and a sense of security...men love female companionship, bilogically. Its nt just sex, its how they look, their voices, the "sense" of empathy...obviously this is all a biological trap because its totally reversed on the inside and the whole trap is a …
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:42 PM
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I think android "partners" at the degree of realism on star trek is what would be required. Men are not just interested in women for sex, they are also interested in having someone to talk to and someone to enjoy life with. When robots become so complex that they are almost on par with humans and have female anatomy, coupled with the artificial womb, women will lose all their power over men. Unfortunately this is way off, perhaps 100 or 200 years or even more down the road. I dont think men want…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:33 PM
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If someone chooses to reject logic the debate trasnforms into a rhetoric drenched insult fest...using reason is like two people agreeing to play monopoly by the rules, but if someone almost always cheats the game can't be won. I also find that feminists tend to congregate in groups and if the goal is to "convince", its impossible to do this if your audience is irrational and hates you.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:13 PM
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Yeah, but if they block you or spread lies about you isn't that worse than not engaging them at all? One could still address feminist arguments in general without addressing the feminist in question by simply pointing out a statement they made while not addressing them personally. And I've also noticed that on reddit, as well as many other platforms such as IRL, that it doesn't matter if your argument is logical, if there is a mass of people who want to believe something a rational argument will…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 06:45 AM
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Casesandmaterials is basically the poster boy for a white knight. He rabidly intercepts and defends buntzums, who herself approaches MRA's with an extremely rude and often aggressive attitude trying to get a rise out of people. He's basically her lap dog. In his videos he constantly refers to her as beautiful, he's basically the most loathsome example of a sniveling little worm of a man, just eating her farts and turds one after another. He really is a golden example of a white knight. But onto …
/r/MensRights16/11/12 05:44 AM
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