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Point of this was? You can do what you like. And I’m not stupid, I was not under the delusion that saying that was going to change anyone or anything. One one level, I actually get you. Im not gonna say you’re entirely off base, if that is what you feel. On the other hand, this particular response seems to me to carry more than a slight whiff of patting yourself on the back in public, to say nothing of a slight sense of entitlement. That sentiment of “we are happy to die alone otherwise” is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 09:24 PM
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In an ideal world, a lot. Realistically? Not much, probably. Though, we also need to be honest with ourselves and ask “would men on aggregate be behaving similarly in such a position?”. Differences? Sure. But whilst I have a personal distaste for various forms of entitlement, narcissism and a general lack of empathy (actual, not professed), I’m not gonna sit here and pretend it would be worlds apart of the shoe were on the other foot either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 08:32 PM
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This is a line of argument I can’t stand. The vast majority of men do not have the same realistic choices open to them women do. To put it simply, we work until we die. Especially if they want a realistic shot at a partner and family. Yes, men CAN elect to work part time or have their wife support them, but womens broad preferences and aggregate behaviour makes this kind of situation a long shot at best. As evidenced by statistics clearly showing that when a woman earns more than her man, the ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:47 PM
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Look, this is really simple in broad strokes. Whether anyone likes it or not, women as the selective sex (for want of a better way of putting it) are to some extent naturally going to aim toward the best they can get - however one defines that. And to be fair, most men would do the same if the shoe was on the other foot. Having said that, personally I would prefer given this reality, women would be more self aware about recognising this reality (and as such, that it looks very different for men)…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:24 PM
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You wrote all of that wishy washy reality avoiding nonsense above, and you follow up with “good luck getting pussy”? One, you already seem like the worst kind of virtue signalling hypocrite in just a few sentences. Two, if somebody needs assistance “getting pussy” here, based off the little evidence of how your mind works I’ve thus far seen, good luck. You’ll probably need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:43 AM
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Please tell me you’re kidding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:39 AM
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I see where you’re going here. Ok. What about the other 50% (to take that figure)? I think we both know that just because two people may in fact stay together, doesn’t mean the both of them are “happy” about it. There are many reasons such as money, kids or even a lack of better alternative options which routinely compel people to stick with a situation they no longer whole heartedly wish to be in. Surely even you yourself must be able to think of some such couples who might not be terribly happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 12:51 AM
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“And I HOPE the UNIVERSE will prove that to you someday” Yep, hope and magical thinking. Clearly much wiser than critical thinking and statistical reality when weighing up one’s options here. This kind of thinking is just straight up delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:55 PM
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You seem to be thinking I refer to economic cost alone. Which, I think you are somewhat downplaying in and of itself. What about the other myriad factors to consider? Such as psychological, potential issues regarding children and so forth. And these risks are additive, as in, they stack upon each other as opposed to being mutually exclusive. People end up ruined, staring down the barrel of a gun and permanently changed from bad experiences here. Not everyone, obviously. That is not what I am say…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 03:08 PM
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When the odds are explicitly against you, with such a high potential cost of failure, at the very least I would think people should be less cavalier about it than you seem to be suggesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 02:09 PM
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Of course. There will always be exceptions. But that’s precisely my point - everyone thinks that an example like your parents will be them. Most learn that they are not. Whether they stay together or not, the odds of being “happy” long term in such a situation are explicitly against you. I’m only making the point that if one isn’t stupid (especially given the potential personal and economic costs of getting this wrong) they should be thinking in terms of probability, not possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:01 PM
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That’s all fine and well if someone wishes to do that. Knock yourself out. What I don’t understand is why so many people continue to make decisions with permanent consequences based on a temporary unreliable mental state. Of course, nobody is saying someone should stay in an abusive or violent situation. More so making the point that isn’t it funny how at the time of making these false promises, everyone both somehow thinks they are the exception, and yet they’re always shocked when the later le…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:43 AM
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I don’t think anyone is denying that people FEEL love. But therein lies the problem. It is a feeling, and as such an unreliable often temporary mental state. I don’t think anybody with any sense is denying the feeling. Just more so how people rationalise this feeling and start basing seriously consequential life decisions around an temporary unreliable mental state. We all know how easily it can (and often does) go wrong - sometimes for no apparent reason at all - yet the majority seem to be pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:39 AM
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What does this then say about the absurdity and transparently false nonsense spouted in marriage vows (for both men and women)? “For richer for poorer, in sickness and health” and so on. If we were being honest with ourselves, seems to me someone forgot to add to that “…until it is no longer convenient or until I find something better” Not relevant to my own situation or anything, but when one considers how married people commonly act, or the reasons they pull the plug, it seems to me that every…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 10:58 AM
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I did no such thing. I specifically told you and quoted which part of your response was, to put it bluntly, bullshit. And gave reasons for it specific to that part. The fact that your subsequent responses on this point have substantially morphed your initial quoted line into something else entirely would seem to suggest that I was onto something. Given what you are claiming now (after several responses to multiple people) in no way resembles the initial quote I was responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:52 AM
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Do you not see how you literally contradicted yourself in one single sentence? And I’m not even referring to anything prior to your response just now in making that claim. That one single sentence is completely contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:32 AM
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That is quite a different position to what you said initially, would you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:20 AM
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Yeah I’m gonna go right ahead and call bullshit on that one. Yes, I’m sure you don’t care at all how hot they are whether you’re bored or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:56 AM
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You literally said it has “nothing to do with how women ultimately chose men.” Again, perhaps it was just a poor attempt at getting a slightly different idea across (we all do that), but all we have to go on is what you actually wrote. That is quite different from what you are saying now “I never said it wasn’t attractive. I merely said it was not the final determination in how a woman chooses to be with a man”. Quite a difference from “nothing to do with”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:54 AM
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I’m struggling to think of a combination of two factors which would come close to the impact those massive ones would have in conjunction with each other. Is it possible you’re resisting this landing at least partially because it doesn’t sound completely “nice”?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:33 AM
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I have not taken that out of context with what you have actually written. I can accept that perhaps you were attempting to make that point, but let’s not pretend I maliciously altered what you said, or had other motives working there. Besides, even granting all of the above, that still does not change one bit the absurdity of the suggestion that attractiveness and money are somehow minor or not terribly important factors generally when it comes to women and mate selection. Not trying to be malic…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:19 AM
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“How about recognising attractiveness and money……has nothing to do with how women ultimately choose men?” Holy shit. Has anyone lied this hard today?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:58 PM
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Again, assuming these to be direct quotes, I’m certainly not gonna argue this looks good in any way. To unequivocally make the jump straight to “rapist” however I think is at least questionable. But for sure, if these are direct quotes, okay I’m not gonna say my prior opinion hasn’t shifted somewhat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:38 PM
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Okay this is more complex than you let on. I will freely say that it certainly doesn’t look good at all. Though, even the story itself said “I’ve had two experiences which, if you remove all context, could be considered rape”. Again, this doesn’t look good in the slightest, but I’m also not gonna ignore a potentially rather large caveat contained right there in the quote itself. Based on this alone, anyone definitely claiming one position or another simply doesn’t have enough information to do s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:35 PM
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Is that an accurate representation of what was said? If so, then I will concede that changes my opinion somewhat. I would still need to know specifics to be confident in holding any opinion on the matter, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:25 PM
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Again, given the relatively small numbers, I would think it is probably not something people need to be overly concerned about. But to hand-wave the unpleasant reality away this seems to point towards also seems a little silly too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:25 PM
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I am no expert on the guy, but I have heard this point come up somewhere before, and referenced the claim against the thought experiment which caused the outrage toward him. Unless I am unaware of something else which occurred, this is a straight up lie. He did not admit to being a rapist, nor has he ever been charged as such to my knowledge. Classic example of certain people reading between the lines of what was said, adding their own lines, then reading between those. Again, if I am missing so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:21 PM
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“Maybe fine in terms of sex” I’m not saying it’s good, obviously. But that is precisely the point being made. If these traits are being disproportionately preferentially selected for, does that say anything broadly? Or does this offer zero insight whatsoever? Not saying it’s everything, or even necessarily a major consideration for most people (given the relatively minute numbers of psychopaths in the general population), but it does say something, doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:11 PM
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Oh again, the general thrust of what you were saying is largely accurate. Broadening one’s social circle will often be a benefit to those seeking people in their life. Little to disagree with on that basic point. And I obviously don’t know you so I’m not saying you’re lying or anything, but I think you vastly underestimate how much effect the online disparity has. Let’s also not forget that some are still going to be reluctant to be forthcoming with either using such things, or telling friends h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:19 PM
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I would agree that there may be a distinction between self generated desires versus being something done in response to something your partner has mentioned prior. However, what I said above (anecdotal as it is, and I suspect at least a few other guys will be singing a similar song) neatly dovetails with data from pornhub showing women broadly certainly watch much more porn on the “dangerous” side of things than many might think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 04:51 PM
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I missed the prior discussion which you’re talking about. However, based on what you’ve written, classic case of both sides being simultaneously right and wrong off a quick read. Though, I will take specific objection to one thing you said. “I’ve NEVER heard a woman say that emulating porn behaviour is a good thing for men, or makes men better lovers”. Not in exactly those words (often more graphic), I can tell you I had multiple women in my past who clearly both disagreed and responded absurdly…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 04:41 PM
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I would say your own agency is probably a more relevant factor there. Most likely driven by your knowledge than men generally respond positively to it. Porn might have had some effect there, but you would have a hard time convincing me that’s a larger contributor than your own agency here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 04:28 PM
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“…..having your life paid for in full with little effort means marrying some average dude and having to put up with him.” As though the woman in question is so noble and self sacrificing for putting up with someone paying for her existence at the cost of his very life (money doesn’t just fall from the sky). This is such a ridiculous sense of entitlement that it just simply becomes funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 04:25 PM
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Would these people be likely to say the same to the massive number of women who choose to shave/wax/whatever? Genuine question for all reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 04:15 PM
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Two steps. Download a dating app. Don’t write anything, just put up a single suggestive photo. You literally will not be able to respond to all the attention even if you wanted to. Of course, I am not saying that it’s likely you’re gonna be thrilled with the majority of guys showing interest, but it really is that simple if you care to try it. Not saying anything else other than this simply is an option unavailable to men, not to mention an unfathomably alien reality that a man’s inbox would get…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:51 PM
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Of course, you are mainly right here. I’m not going to say this is bad advice in general. However, it does seem to ring somewhat hollow when this kind of blanket advice comes from one side of the fence. If someone has the ability to passively farm attention from men if they avail themselves of that option, men are not likely to take any “just grow your social circle” type advice terribly seriously. Not saying that it’s right, wrong or otherwise, but the simple fact is that women by and large can…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:34 PM
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Even if one is very precise in what they say and specifically never says “all women”, I have noticed a staggering number of women are incredibly prone to taking your measured and precise statement only to respond with “not ALL women do x”, as the focus of their response. Nobody said ALL women. In fact, I went out of my way to build in the necessary caveats yet it still didn’t matter. For whatever reason, to say something critical of female behaviour is to somehow send particular women crazy reac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:28 PM
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