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Because it's used to excuse irresponsible behavior in young men, so it benefits them. If they "mature a lot slower" than women do, then it's not reasonable to expect a young twenty-somethings guy to be capable of living up to adult expectations. So what if his apartment is growing black mold and he lives exclusively on takeout while doing nothing but partying and playing video games? He's a guy! You can't expect him to behave like an adult! It's the same reason why men are all idiots in commerci…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 10:41 AM
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Honestly, I don't give a rats ass what anyone thinks of my "value" past my wife and friends. As long as my wife sees me as "high value", and my friends still find my company "valuable", why the hell would I care what anyone else thinks? And that attitude is what makes someone high-value.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 12:38 PM
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But if you were secure, someone calling you insecure wouldn't bother you at all. You'd have nothing to prove because you know that you aren't insecure, and that's the thing that matters. They're entitled to their wrong opinions, but proving them wrong doesn't even occur to you, because you have other things to think about. If someone calling you insecure makes you worry about what other people think of you, and act against your own interests to try and prove to them that you aren't insecure, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 03:37 PM
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That means I can spend the whole day on the most important mision in the world: Proving that I'm the top dog of the security pile. Only 9am and I have already proven my security in a whole bunch of ways. Of course that means dropping pants in the most public place posible[sic], never let a perfectly good chance to prove my security go to waste. For some reason he dosen't[sic] want to help me prove how secure I am in my manhood. that would prove that I'm really not insecure about my penis. Here's…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 11:54 AM
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Completely devoid of empathy is your assumption and inaccurate given a more accurate context I'll answer your question. If my assessment was incorrect and you do, in fact, feel empathy towards those you hurt by seeking personal gratification, then answer my question: If you do feel empathy for those you hurt, why do you value your own gratification as more important than the pain of others? What makes you so deserving of what you want that it justifies hurting other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 02:24 AM
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That didn't answer my question. If you do feel empathy for those you hurt, then why do you value your own gratification over than the pain of others? If you don't feel empathy for those you hurt, then who are you trying to convince that your actions are acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 01:24 AM
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No reason if you are completely devoid of empathy for other humans, maybe. If that's the case and you are literally incapable of feeling anything for anyone but yourself, then why are you even posting to begin with? Who are you trying to convince that your actions are acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 01:09 AM
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Then saying that there are no consequences is misrepresenting the situation. There are negative consequences for the people that you hurt in order to achieve your own goals. You ask me if you should stop whatever nebulous action you are doing that benefits you and harms other people, but first you have to answer "Why is your benefit worth the cost of other people's pain? What makes you so deserving of what you want that it justifies hurting others?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:06 PM
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there are no consequences doesn't hurt anybody (sometimes) One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't belong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 08:33 PM
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Here's a better question: stop asking yourself "is what I'm doing illegal?" and start asking "is what I'm doing unethical?" It isn't legality that is a good man's foremost concern, it's empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 12:52 PM
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Women don't shitpost on PPD looking for a self-aggrandizing circlejerk. QED. In unrelated news, you're a fucking melon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 02:48 AM
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If I were single and they were cool, then yeah, no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 07:04 PM
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Let's find out!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 11:45 PM
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How can one be "stingy and miserly" with femininity? I thought femininity is a quality you have, not one you give away or share.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 11:41 PM
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Except that it's unethical and irresponsible to hold other people accountable for your own inner life. It's not women's responsibility to emotionally prop up broken men so that they can "feel normal;" that just plasters over the problems without actually resolving the root cause, which is men never learning or practicing emotional skills like self-soothing and healthy emotional expression. If men have this issue, then I feel for them, but it's ultimately their responsibility to seek more emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:36 PM
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Somehow I doubt that you're honestly interested in alternate viewpoints. Call it a hunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 01:49 PM
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This is how nice guys Nice Guys(TM) lose in the dating game, because girls leave themselves open to monsters aforementioned Nice Guys(TM) are too cowardly to actually ask women on dates and shift the blame for their own inaction onto them, pretending that the women, not themselves, are the root cause of their own misery. This absolves them of the obligation for self-reflection and self-improvement, allowimg them to carry on wallowing in familiar, comfortable, self-imposed misery. Fix'd.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 01:01 PM
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Spoken like a guy who's never been ridden cowgirl-style. You poor, poor man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 10:25 PM
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Number 1 - 6. Cute, nicely groomed and well-put-together. Wish the pic was larger, though. Number 2 - 6.5. Love his hair, eyes, coloring. Would easily bump him up if he grew out his beard or flashed a smile. Number 3 - 3. Maybe it's the pinched "smize" expression, but this one definitely doesn't do it for me. Number 4 - 7. Put some guyliner on him and he'd be at least an 8 for sure, maybe even a 9. Number 5 - 9.5! If he had a big beautiful smile, he'd be perfection. The eyes, the hair, the goate…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 04:04 PM
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Forget buying flowers or giving her compliments. What if a wild animal was about to attack a girl in the woods and you shot it. She'd be like, "My hero!" (and then you could make love to her) mrw If this is a ruse, then well played, sir, nicely done.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 03:36 PM
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But if men dominating women is "natural," why does it have to be taught at all? Wouldn't it just be automatic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 03:35 PM
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I would want to be a girl just to feel desired, to feel some inherent worth in being myself, rather than worth in what I could give to others, like money, my job, or whatever fancy car or house I had. But women aren't desired for "being themselves," they're valued in what they give to others as well: sex, physical attractiveness, emotional support, companionship, higher self- and social value for their partners, manual labor, childbearing and childcare, etc. If a woman doesn't provide those thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 01:55 PM
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The problem they're addressing is that men are experiencing massive amounts of anxiety about sexual performance, causing their partners to feel obligated to assuage that anxiety by faking pleasure. That's bullshit for everyone involved, not for just men or just women, and can be helped by women talking more honestly with their partners and by men being kinder to themselves if they aren't perfect. Regardless of any "buzzwords," it's addressing a very real problem and suggesting solutions that can…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 05:42 PM
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But the actual article doesn't even mention misogyny. OP was the one to use that term, not the article writer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 05:34 PM
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First off, I think it's important to note that the article doesn't say "misogynist," it says "sexist." The words aren't interchangeable, and based off what I read, they're using "sexist" as in "adhering to unequal and untrue stereotypes of gender," like the tired old trope that the man always has to be the active, in-control party and give his girlfriend a screaming orgasm or else he isn't a Real Man(TM). That's not the same as being misogynist. Second off, I think that the crux is the man's mot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 03:20 PM
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...what? What does any of that have to do with what I asked? I wanted to know why you think that being a high-level corporate employee and having meaningful relationships with people are mutually exclusive, like you said in your previous comment. Your reply had nothing to do with that question. Although, if they are mutually exclusive, and if having deep relationships with other people and spending good times with them is preferable to climbing the corporate ladder, then why is it a bad thing if…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 06:09 PM
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One thing strikes me is that women often say that it shouldn't matter if a woman is a virgin on her wedding night, yet they still make a big deal about having a "white wedding" with all the trimmings. These kinds of inconsistencies always strike me as slightly amusing. As long as these vestiges from the "old order" continue to be embraced, then it may not ever really go away. I don't know, I don't see it as an "inconsistency" if the meaning of the symbols involved change over time. Colors and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:31 PM
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Who says you can't have both? Work-life balance is a thing in corporate culture these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:19 PM
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I think that /u/questioningwoman is talking about "accomplishments" and "internal value" as in the ability to be self-reliant, not in any sort of moral or ethical sense. If the only thing standing between you and financial hardship is the whim of another person, then that puts you in a more precarious position than if you had your own independent skills and assets on which to rely. A SAHP works hard, invests a great deal, and accomplishes many things, but without independent employment and incom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 04:09 PM
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observed phenomenon Ah yes, empirical data collated from your many safaris into the deepest jungles of Up-Your-Own-Ass-Land. A gentleman and a scholar.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:57 PM
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Lust after college freshmen, maybe, but pursue for dating/LTRs? I'm in my early 30s and my peers don't reflect that at all; they gravitate towards people within <4 years of their own age, usually in similar career paths and social circles. The general consensus I've seen is that college kids might be hot, but they're just that: kids. Ain't nobody got time for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:51 PM
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I'm not too sure, although it could have something to do with the sexual revolution and the loosening of morals throughout society. Those who reject the traditions of the old order, "middle class morality," etc., might see virgins as holdouts who are still clinging to old beliefs and old ideals. Those who feel threatened by the old order might see virgins as uncomfortable manifestations of that. If this does turn out to be the case, that's pretty encouraging. As the surviving members of "the old…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:38 PM
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OP is probably not from the US and confused Utah with Nevada.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:26 PM
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Wow, poor guy. What did you say to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:19 PM
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There's something wrong all right, but it's with your bass-ackwards sexist attitude. If you actually have a kindergartner, man, I feel bad for that kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 11:06 PM
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How do you figure? If both parties had an equal investment in grooming and appearance, I'd see your point. However, if one gender is expected to invest a base level of time, money, and energy in appearance and the other gender is not, that's a clear double standard. Once the other gender makes an equitable investment in their appearance, then we can discuss any resulting issues, but you can't accuse women of being "shallow and narrow" if they're they only ones in the equation putting forth the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:55 PM
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Sometimes, sure, especially if the guy doesn't communicate, pay attention to his partner's responses, or invest in foreplay. If a woman isn't sufficiently aroused, or loses arousal partway through, sex can range from "ehh this doesn't feel good please be done soon k thx" to "OW OW OW NO SERIOUSLY WTF OW."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:50 PM
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Who said they don't? You did, dude. You called the guys "neckbeards." You don't get a neckbeard if you groom yourself. Oh, and, sir knight, I have some errands for you, if you don't mind. First, I'd like you to visit the social anxiety forums, depression subreddits, and various support groups for socially isolated people, I know quite a few people there who are friendless, and inform them that they are "ungenerous" and anti-social. Then I'd like you to take a tour near some homeless people, begg…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:41 PM
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Do you think that the converse should apply to men? If women cared as little about positive self-improvement as the neckbeard men mentioned earlier (meaning women with no makeup, no shaving, unflattering greasy haircuts, facial hair, doesn't shower or work out, dumpy clothes, no high heels, no bras, etc.), should men as a collective lower their standards as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:30 PM
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I want to see you explicitly repeating right now that if a woman is fat or ugly, it must be because she's unwilling to groom and take care of herself. I'm gonna save it and pop in sometime to one of your favorite subs and see what your feminist friends have to say about it. Someone who's fat can dress well to their body type and present themselves well. Someone who's ugly can use skincare products and makeup to improve their appearance and accentuate their best features. Being fat or ugly doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:19 PM
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Wait, what? Who should compromise on whose values? I'm losing track of who you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:07 PM
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If you were offered the opportunity to have sex with a woman, but you knew that you wouldn't orgasm, it would hurt like a motherfucker, and your dick would be black and blue for a week, would you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:03 PM
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Now, I must ask you, dear whiteknight, does that apply to females too? Is a friendless female antisocial and ungenerous? Is a female who is either fat or ugly unwilling to groom and take care of themselves? are women who play video games all day unwilling to pursue any activity that doesn't serve her alone? Would you also call any woman who fits those parameters a "lazy, self-absorbed human leech who is toxic and would cause her partner more harm than good"? I'd just love to know your answer. Mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 03:01 PM
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If a woman seeks positive traits in a partner (like friendliness, self-motivation, social awareness, good time management, wide variety of interests), then displaying the opposite of those traits isn't innocuous, it is negative. Given the evidence displayed, she has no logical reason to suspect that the man in question has the qualities she seeks, so she'll look elsewhere. That's not being shallow and narrow, that's evaluating a situation with the available evidence. Unless the man's looking for…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 02:50 PM
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You're right, my analogy was inaccurate for this situation. To amend it: If it's late at night and all of the restaurants are closed, you're still not going to eat a Styrofoam box out of a dumpster, no matter how hungry you are. The example person you described is someone who is antisocial and ungenerous (friendless), lacking any ambition or drive (jobless), unwilling to groom or take care of themselves (fat and ugly) with an unpleasant, often-arrogant personality (neckbeard) and unwilling to pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 02:31 PM
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Oh, sorry, I didn't realize that you were a woman. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 02:10 PM
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Some women like casual sex, therefore all women like casual sex. Similarly, some men like to abuse and rape women, therefore all men like to abuse and rape women. /s Women aren't the Borg, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 02:06 PM
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If 1 = unpleasant, unsatisfying, potentially painful sex without any chance of achieving orgasm, then no. Sex =! orgasm for many women, so the opportunity to have bad sex with no O is less desirable than no sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 02:02 PM
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But people (of any gender, not just women) don't seek relationships just to unlock the Steam achievement, they seek them to share and enrich their lives with a partner worth sharing it. Your examples of "friendless, jobless, fat, ugly neckbeards who play video games all day" aren't going to enrich anyone, so they cannot be included in the set of "men" when the definition of "men" in this thought exercise is within the context of seeking relationships. TL;DR - If it's late at night and all of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 01:54 PM
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Except one of them can have sex with quite an attractive person, for free, literally whenever they feel like it. Except that women in casual sex encounters have a much lower chance of achieving orgasm, and a much higher chance of said sex being unpleasant to the point of pain. Given those odds, why would she want to? Let's say you could go out and have casual sex with women as much as you wanted, but out of every ten encounters, you never get to orgasm for nine of them, and your dick is bruised …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 01:41 PM
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Ryan Gosling Looks like a horse. Pass. Chris Evans Looks like a brick. Pass. Alain Delon Not bad, but why does he look permanently confused? Is that a thing? Carey Grant What what, chin-butt. Pass. That dude from gone with the wind You mean Clark Gable? Pedostache doesn't do it for me. Pass. Out of that entire list of "handsome men that all women like," this one only likes 0.5 of them. Now, if you were to mention someone like Robert Carlyle or Louis Ferreira, that's different. They're both short…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 11:18 PM
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As I understand it, feeling "entitled" to something means that, based on certain factors/actions/attributes, you should have something from someone else that you currently lack, and the fact that you don't have said thing is an injustice. It's not unique to men or to relationships, but it crops up a lot in Nice Guy(TM) and "friendzone" mentality. As in "I am a Nice Guy(TM) who does XYZ nice things for my woman friend, but even after all that, she won't go on a date with me!" The implication is "…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:42 PM
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NaturalNews.com reports on "studies" as well, but that doesn't mean that vaccines actually do cause autism in children. If more reputable sources aren't willing to report on it, what does that say about the study in question?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:30 PM
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The Daily Mail isn't exactly a scientific journal, dude, it's the ink-and-paper equivalent of clickbait.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 12:58 PM
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Because there's more to life than sex? Come on, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 12:54 PM
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Leave the area immediately. If the assault left physical marks (bruises, scratches, etc), take photos of them. Go to the police and report an assault; if they don't take it seriously, take it to Internal Affairs. File a restraining order. Make sure that you bring a trusted, level-headed friend who can be counted on not to escalate the situation when you go to collect your things. If you don't have a friend, the police can give you an escort. Block her from all communication and media. Do not res…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 12:38 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: regardless of whether a woman can easily obtain sex or not, it is always far more difficult for women to achieve orgasm than for men. So many guys associate sex = orgasm = awesome, so therefore, someone who gets a lot of sex must be having a great time, right? However, a woman's experience with sex could range anywhere from awesome to pleasant to uncomfortable to extremely painful, depending on several different factors. Because of this, it benefits the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 09:04 PM
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I've known aces married to other aces, aces married to sexuals, and aces living happily single lives. The key is to know what your Goals & Boundaries are, communicate them clearly, and keep putting yourself out there (lol, 'put out,' I am apparently still 12) until you find someone whose G&Bs line up with yours. If I may offer advice? Take some time, as much as you need, and reflect on what you definitely want in a relationship, what you definitely don't want, and what you're willing to compromi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:21 PM
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Thanks for clarifying! But like I said above (sorry for the repeat), those things are done much less frequently than typical household chores and they don't involve that much more labor. Even if you did both "categories" of work, it would increase your labor, but not by a large margin overall. Doesn't it make more sense to have all house-related stuff in one "house" category under the purview of the designated homemaker/SAHP, with assists from the breadwinner of either gender? Divvying up tasks …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:06 PM
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That makes sense, but yard work and household repairs are done on a much, much less frequent basis than household chores, and they're about as physically intensive as doing a load of laundry. Even if someone was doing "normal man stuff" in addition to "normal woman stuff," it wouldn't increase the amount of labor by a significant amount. That said, the primary breadwinner should try to pitch in and help maintain the household regardless of gender, especially if kids are involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:58 PM
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Hah well I have never "put out" and am not going to start anytime soon. Have you considered that you may be on the asexual spectrum? Your lack of sex drive may be due to a psychological block, a medical issue, or just a natural quirk of biology. Even if it's the latter and you never experience sexual attraction, that doesn't preclude you from having a long-term romantic relationship. My fiancee is asexual, and we've been together for five years and getting married next year. Food for thought!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:27 PM
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If "normal woman stuff" is the housework and cleaning, what's "normal man stuff"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 01:15 PM
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Respectable readers of the Morning Chronicle and The Times awoke one morning in May 1842 to disturbing reports of trousered women and girls working underground in mines. Harnessed like animals, they dragged heavy carts of coal. "Where union activity was taking hold, miners reckoned that restricting the supply of labour[sic] led to higher wages. Some even refused to work alongside women... "There was a moral dimension too. Respectable miners and owners [Ed. note: all of whom were men] felt that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 05:44 PM
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The plural of "anecdote" is not "data." Your experiences are not universal to humanity. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:51 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:18 AM
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Finish college That explains so much. Get back to us after you're all grown up, Junior. I look forward to seeing how actual adulthood reshapes your views.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:12 AM
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Ladies first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 05:14 PM
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Yes. Now be a dear and cry a little more, please. I need more salt in my diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 01:01 PM
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