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CMVmadscientistlove/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:26 AM
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Man, I just went back and looked at the pics of that PPD mystery pic thread. I love seeing everyone's faces! I just want to give you all hugs and make you all be nice to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 05:57 AM
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I doubt most TBPers are married. They strike me as young folks still in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:48 PM
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Oh. You know, I was expecting something actually sweet and happy. Disappointment of the day!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 08:30 AM
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Now, the way to serve Christ is to do all you possibly can, and then as much more. "No," says you, "that cannot be." I do not know that it cannot be. I found that the best thing I ever did was a thing I could not do. What I could do well, that was my own; but what I could not do, but still did, in the name and strength of the Eternal Jehovah, was the best thing I had done. How is Spurgeon still this good over a century later? <3
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 09:32 PM
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And that's why we love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 09:24 PM
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I'm not sex positive at all, and I don't claim to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 06:26 PM
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Can you blame me for choosing not to play? Since everyone else is giving the socially appropriate answer of, "No, of course I don't judge you!" let me be the one to break the mold. I'm totally judging you. Not for deciding not to play, but for expecting anyone to care about it. You're announcing it, so you obviously expect some kind of reaction. I am positive that no one in your real life cares that you have stopped dating. I'm sure the women you run into day-to-day aren't offended or hurt by th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 08:56 PM
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I've been asked to start vlogging. How does one vlog? I'm pretty sure what I do all day is not actually that interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 08:12 AM
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Oh hey! Another Christian on the sub, awesome. I meet so few here!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 07:47 AM
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Can't we all just get along?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 07:45 AM
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Since you're just reading it for fun (I'm assuming) and not studying it, I'd recommend The Message translation. It's a paraphrase, but it's a lot more conversational and "normal book"-like than most translations. If you want something more accurately translated, my favorite is the NIV translation. KJV is good if you dig old English, and the NSRV version is probably the most scholarly and accurate English translation you will find-- although I don't find it very enjoyable to read. You can pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 07:42 AM
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Sweet, my library carries that manga series. I might have to check that out after I finish the book I'm reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 07:34 AM
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I guess I just see it more in terms of sexual attraction. In the scenario I described, I think the women are acting out of the desire to attract/impress men, and the other woman is just a prop to that end. I don't see any real attraction in that scenario. Not to be crude, but my friend put it well once when she said: The litmus test for being into women is "Does eating pussy sound good to you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 06:15 AM
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How to find straight women: Be a woman. Go to a party or bar and flirt with women. Be disappointed by all the women who will kiss you for male attention, but who disappear as soon as the male attention leaves. (Seriously though, you can tell the straight ones by the awkward way they kiss.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:18 AM
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I think maybe you're misunderstanding me. Of course I think people who are overweight should lose the weight by making diet changes and exercising. That said, those changes don't happen overnight. I would rather people not hate their bodies while they're in the process of getting healthy and losing weight, because hating yourself seems unhealthy to me. As I've said at least twice in this thread, I think body positivity is a problem if people use it as an excuse to remain fat and continue in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 07:35 PM
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Lol, this is why I don't like giving relationship advice to people beyond DON'T DO WHAT I DID. It totally should not have worked, and yet here we are. I guess we just got lucky in that we were coincidentally very compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 10:32 PM
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Oh, I agree. I very much dislike the HAES movement and I think it does more harm than good. I just don't think that body acceptance, at its core, is necessarily harmful. It's harmful when used as an excuse for stagnation and unhealthy behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:06 PM
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I would like to point out that there's a big difference in working hard to correct flaws and being proud of your improvement, and being proud of those flaws. Being fat is a good example. It's unattractive and unhealthy. Working out and dieting to get thin and being proud of your accomplishment it's great. But deciding that fat is healthy and okay and being proud of it isn't so great. Yeah, I think there is a fine line to tread there. I don't think self-loathing does anyone any good, so teaching …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:36 PM
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SEND NOODZ PLS
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 06:54 PM
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I was 21 and working in a cafe, and one day this man comes in looking for a job. He drops off his resume, we chat a little, and he leaves. And then I run into the back room where my coworker is and freak out about how I just saw the most attractive man I've ever seen in person. I wished I'd given him my number, but then realized that he was way too hot to be into me anyway and left it alone. Fast forward a week or two, and I convince my boss to hire him. Now it's his first day on the job, and we…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 06:44 PM
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While I think it would be kind of the person to stop "enabling" the love addict, I don't think it's strictly necessary. I really think that stating your intentions is doing your due diligence. It's on the other person to make whatever changes they need to in order to get away from the relationship that's hurting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 06:20 PM
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It's presumptuous to assume that people do not want to date me? That's a very weird stance to have. This is why it's easier to just not have male friends or associate with men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:22 AM
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Why would I assume a person asking to grab lunch with me is romantically interested? That seems very presumptuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:07 AM
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she's told him in no uncertain terms that nothing will ever, ever happen between them and he continues to follow her around like a puppy dog. At this point, I think that's really on that guy. I feel the same way about girl friends who continue to sleep with and pine after men who have told them that they're not looking for a relationship. Once the person has told you their intentions, you really can't say they tricked you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:11 AM
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It's true. I subjected him to such horrors as not replying to his text messages immediately because I was in a yoga class.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:07 AM
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I think it's best to be upfront about your lack of romantic interest in the person. The only thing that can make this tricky, is the fact that you don't want to come across as presumptive in case they really are just being friendly. Nothing sounds more awkward that someone being friendly, and then you blurt out, "I'm not interested in you!" As soon as someone I was uninterested in made it clear they were looking for romance, I shut it down. That said, I once made someone angry who asked me to lu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:29 AM
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At the start of the series, my husband was like, "All you need to know is that Shinji is a little bitch." And tbf, he does scream, cry, and whimper his way through basically every fight. But cut the kid some slack, he's like... what, 10 years old? xD
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 06:48 AM
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And now I really want to cosplay as the main character kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 10:23 PM
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It's Thursday! Who's bored and wants to chat? My husband is playing Evangelion in the background.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 09:35 PM
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Maybe when I get home, provided I don't just play videogames all night. What do you play?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 08:47 PM
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No, it provided interesting information to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 07:44 AM
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Successful serial killers are probably happy too, but that doesn't mean they're good people. Obviously I'm not saying that red pillers = serial killers. But happiness isn't necessarily a metric for "better."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:38 AM
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And the women who enjoy spending time with men who struggle? Women who like to argue*
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:36 AM
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Are you afraid of becoming evil, or a bad person? If this is the case, then you should probably listen to your conscience and leave it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:49 PM
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Definitely. Fewer BPers responded, and we had a crap ton of purples. I also really, really do not like the numbers for the over-50 crowd, since there were SO few of them. But! On the bright side this survey was just for fun, and I don't need to present it to any scientific community. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:07 PM
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i cringed a little at the 9 and 10 ratings because that reads as complacency or stagnation to me, though i'm sure it doesn't mean that to the people who put forth those ratings. I gave myself a 9 for happiness, and here's my reasoning: I can't think of anything that I lack. I love my husband and my life, and I have near endless freedom to pursue my passions and interests. It's not stagnation that makes me happy, but freedom to accomplish the things that I want. That, to me, is ideal. The only re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:02 PM
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Of course. A sample size of 50 is horribly small, especially since I get the feeling that happier people were more likely to take the "happiness survey." I just think it's interesting to get a feel for the general trends. This isn't particularly scientific.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:53 PM
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I'd think black pill being separate skews the RP rating higher. This actually helped BP more. There was a black piller who identified as on the cusp of black and blue pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:51 PM
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Yeah, I actually don't like the title much. I elaborated in the body of my first post, but I was trying to get at "overall life satisfaction" more than happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:15 PM
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Would they like this? I'm iffy about posting to anywhere else since my sample size is so tiny!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:05 PM
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I wonder why this doesn't seem to effect RP men? Maybe it is because they have found a sense of enlightenment and their goals of sleeping with women have been met. Something that was interesting to me was that most of the red pillers who replied were married (even the men). I was not expecting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 04:58 PM
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Right, the blue pillers still came out with above-average levels of life satisfaction. Unhappy would be the black pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 04:45 PM
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"I don't believe in marriage."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:54 AM
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Eh, found Jesus and developed all these pesky morals that contradict RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 03:00 AM
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What do you think would need to happen for you to be 10/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 12:35 AM
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I'll just leave this here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 12:25 AM
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You scared the shit out of me for a second. I thought I missed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 12:24 AM
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Aw man, sorry to hear about the breakup. Glad you're in good spirits though :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 11:10 PM
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I'm getting better. My mood is actually on a major upswing thanks to anti-depressants and therapy. So a 7 currently. This is awesome to read! I'm gonna be honest, I was surprised that someone with your username rated your life satisfaction so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 10:55 PM
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Cool cool, thanks for the reply. Age/sex/relationship status?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 10:48 PM
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Female, mid-20s, married, "no pill." I'd give it a 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 10:36 PM
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Directions unclear. Have skinned all my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 06:14 AM
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I'm so bored right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 06:04 AM
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By that logic nothing on reddit is gonna change anything who cares. Of course it won't. ... Are people actually here expecting that it will change anyone or anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 01:50 AM
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I definitely meant Western patriarchies. Your distinction between patriarchy (Western) and mascularchy (Islamic) yesterday was fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 09:41 PM
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But I think what they are concerned about is expecting him to put his body on the line for you when simply leaving may resolve the situation. You aren't the one putting your body on the line in this scenario. I get the feeling from the replies that people think this is something I'm making my husband do. On the contrary, I know I couldn't stop him from defending me if I tried. He doesn't listen to me like that. mate guarding is usually done when some asshole makes a pass at you and your SO has t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 09:07 PM
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He should try to correct her. If she won't listen to him, then he can bring his problem to their church leaders who can counsel them as a couple. It might also be beneficial to have the pastor's wife speak to her. And of course he should pray for her and for their marriage; read the Bible daily and make sure that he's fulfilling his role as a husband. He can seek the advice of older, godly men in his church.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 10:12 AM
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I feel like I see them calling tradcons cucks pretty often.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 10:05 AM
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I don't think patriarchy should be enforced by government. Women should go to the police if their spouse is hurting or raping them. I'm in favor of women voluntarily submitting to good Christian men who will put her well-being first. I'm not trying to make you or anyone else unwilling to submit to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:33 AM
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TRP teaching 'enjoy the decline' proves their ideal is patriarchy.. You still wouldn't be able to say that TRP is pro-patriarchy when it promotes anti-patriarchy actions. And I actually have doubts that their ideal is patriarchy. At this point, I think men are also too indoctrinated into feminism to actually mourn the loss of patriarchy-- even red-pilled men. You can see it in the way RP men have disgust for the idea of financially supporting a SAHM, which is highly traditional. Men have also st…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:08 AM
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Brothers, no. Women have historically focused their energies on their new family (husband, children) after marriage. Her duty is to them, not to her family of origin (brothers, mother, father). But yes, a woman would be "team her own sons"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 03:46 AM
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He attempts to defuse the situation but Chad ain't having it. He swings on Mr. Madscientist, he blocks it and drops him. This isn't how it would go down, though. Mr. Madsci wouldn't try to defuse the situation, he would verbally demand that the man back the fuck away; and if the man didn't do so, Mr. Madsci would swing first. Who's going to file assault charges? The stranger lying on the ground who doesn't know his name?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 03:27 AM
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I'm really not sure why you're talking to me about spanking. Patriarchy does the exact same thing. Even if hitting or raping your wife is illegal, laws have to be enforced and crimes have to be reported and investigated and we have trouble getting police to do that now. It was even worse... oh right I'm not bringing up history. What? I don't think beating and raping your wife should be legal. I don't really know what you're arguing against, but it's certainly not my point of view. You've constru…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 03:13 AM
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That said, patriarchy is basically slavery by gender and is by the definitions you laid out objectively worse so I don't know what the point of this post is except to quietly declare yourself as someone who's worse than TRP. Well men have responsibilities within patriarchy. In particular I believe in Biblical patriarchy, where men are called to live considerately with their wives and to place high importance on her well-being. This is one of the differences I'm getting at between TRP and patriar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 02:25 AM
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Usually those deleted comment chains are slapfights. People insulting each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 01:42 AM
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But that's the biggest red pill of all. And this is one of the many reasons that I can't jump on board the red pill train. I can understand how this makes sense for men, from a self-protection standpoint, but it is very unattractive in a potential spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 01:11 AM
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That's why i just break up or ignore gfs who behave inappropriately. Actually quite effective, if not more effective Good call. While I definitely appreciate mate-guarding and would be put off by a man who didn't, I don't seek out male attention or put myself in inappropriate situations. But sometimes trouble finds you, and it's nice to know that your man has your back when it does. Lack of mate-guarding just reads as indifference to me. Like he doesn't care about me. Love = being his, and good …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 12:13 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 12:02 AM
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It's not generational. My husband and I are millennials, and I agree with Atlas.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 11:57 PM
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNwt7LQiYck]("Give me faith to trust what You say/ that You're good, and Your love is great.") I listened to this song on repeat right before our wedding in December, and now it reminds me of our wedding day. I missed the first half of worship in church today. Woke up late, spent too much time arguing on PPD and then realized I needed to stop to put gas in my car. >.< More from that song: "I may be weak, but your Spirit's strong in me/ My flesh my fail, but my Go…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 11:35 PM
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Yeah. It was... bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:24 PM
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He got very drunk at a work function and started telling everyone (like literally a crowd of people) that he was a virgin and that he was lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:16 PM
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I used to work with one. I didn't give him advice or try to help because I think that would be crossing some lines. That said, a few months after he quit the job, my husband and I bumped into him white he was on a date with a cutie. He seemed happy, and it looked like things had turned around for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 05:42 PM
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I don't think female happiness is an adequate goal either, so telling me that women are happier with boyfriends doesn't do much to convince me. Heroin makes drug addicts happy too, but it's harmful. What individuals want isn't necessarily good or healthy. I'm pro-marriage, full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 09:30 AM
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I don't see any inherent value in a man who chooses to be promiscuous instead of marrying, so if course I would not congratulate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 08:53 AM
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I don't know what kids you're hanging around, but most 10-17 year olds I know aren't getting excited about bananas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 08:21 AM
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Oh boy, that visual tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 07:04 AM
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Hold on a second, is the speaker meaning this literally or metaphorically? Somewhat metaphorically, especially as far as "shutting everything down" goes. That's pure hyperbole. It would be unreasonable to stop pursuing self-actualization, learning, and career due to marriage. But, I think it is reasonable and good to make your marriage your first priority, which means you won't have the same leeway as a single person would. If my partner asked me to stop learning about evolution so I can help pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 06:46 AM
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Yet people are getting married at much later ages than in previous generations on average, and fewer people getting married overall. I think it has more to do with people not wanting to be beholden to tradition-- men and women both. For people in their 20s, marriage is seen as somewhat old fashioned. And I do see it having a lot to do with the destigmatization of cohabiting. People can live together without social shame nowadays; and once you're living together for a few years-- basically as a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 06:39 AM
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So yes, and the reason is because marriage is not really a worthwhile investment for men. I don't think this is the primary reason. Outside of the manosphere, I don't see much of this. Most people are still 'blue pilled' wrt marriage, for lack of a better term. Most men are either too in love with their partners or don't have the foresight to shy away from marriage because of potential divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 06:29 AM
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in the past, a romantic relationship would develop if there is enough mutual compatability and eventually lead to a sexual relationship. Depends how far back you want to look. Even further back, marriages were mostly arranged by family. Love-marriages are a fairly new invention in the course of human history. it's not very unusual for non-married couples to move in with each other. lots of children are born out of wedlock. marriage has basically become a legal technicality. a couple in a LTR who…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 06:27 AM
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no. the primary difference is that the old system of friendship/familiarity -> dating/courtship -> sex turned into friends -> sex -> dating or sex -> friends -> dating. Would you mind clarifying what you mean here? I'm not following you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 06:26 AM
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You wouldn't find a theocracy oppressive to yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 06:25 AM
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It's possible the ritual and sharp delineation of before/after makes me take my marriage more seriously, since it was literally life-changing. I can't say from experience, but this seems intuitive to me. How could it not make that kind of difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 06:19 AM
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We do mind-control rituals on Thursdays. Bring a friend! (And a goat, we're running low what with all the slaughter).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:51 AM
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It's possible. My parents told me that when they were young, it was normal to date multiple people at the same time. Same. Today, men expect sex relatively quickly but most women still don't want sex without a relationship. So that means getting into a monogamous relationship relatively quickly. And this is why it's hard for me to tell people to wait until marriage, although I do think they should. It's an incredibly hard sell with the SMP being the way it is. Not having sex until marriage will …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:50 AM
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Yeah. Man that is a hard sell in today's climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:49 AM
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I wouldn't consider your unreasonable category "unreasonable," actually. I think people are entitled to want whatever they want in relationships. I think getting things in your "unreasonable" category is very, very unlikely and therefore a foolish thing to chase after. But I probably would not consider someone unreasonable for trying to get it-- just stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:48 AM
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Shoot, I'm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:47 AM
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Since you treated your relationship this way, I'm pretty sure your friends likely did as well (selection bias). They didn't, actually. Aside from one other girl, I'm the only one of my old friend group who's married. I settled down at 21 while my friends were still dating around (often in open/poly relationships). Incidentally, this is why we drifted apart over the years. Stopped having all that much in common with one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:46 AM
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People shouldn't make enormous concessions for anyone. Full stop. Oh, this is interesting. Can you give me an example of a concession you think is too big, along with an example of a concession that is the upper limit of reasonable? I want to see if we have similar ideas there. Yes, but in different ways. I think for the most part, it has made both relationships and marriage subtly worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:18 AM
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Do you think there's any practical solution for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:12 AM
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"trannies"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:11 AM
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I can think of worse possibilities Yeah, you could have to marry one of the girls from TwoX
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:07 AM
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So, I lived with my husband for several years before we married (and before I converted to Christianity), obviously I did not take my own "advice." But I think I can make a case for not cohabiting before marriage. It becomes really difficult to separate your life from your partner's when you cohabit. You share bills, a living space, friends, pets, you name it-- everything in your lives become very entwined. I can see people deciding that it's easier to just "go with the flow" and get married rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:07 AM
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I do somewhat agree with the speaker, but I think the advice is fairly interchangeable with the advice given on codependency and how to avoid it. Marriage/relationships aren't permission to stop working on yourself-- that's a recipe for disaster. Right, and you've hit on another one of the key points that he was making. That people shouldn't go into a relationship expecting the other person to fix the things that are wrong with them. That you bring yourself, flaws and all, into a marriage, so it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:03 AM
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Man, you missed a really good joke about bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:54 AM
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I wonder who else here would be okay with marrying someone they know from here. Only the brave. You know what they say, no one knows you're a dog on the internet. What if everyone on PPD is a dog except for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:51 AM
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Right, that definitely makes sense. No one would marry a person if they thought they were getting a bad deal right off the bat. That said, do you think there's value in holding some "benefits" back until marriage? And if so, what would those things be?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:45 AM
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Can I ask if you're a man or woman? I don't think this is a bad trend, personally; I probably would not have chosen to get married if it weren't important to my partner, and although the way I think about our relationship probably did shift a little after the wedding, we were plenty committed beforehand too. I think it definitely can have good outcomes. You could argue that cohabiting with someone before marriage gives you a chance to acclimate to that person and really see if you're compatible …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:43 AM
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I 100% agree that people treat marriage like "super-dating" (and subsequently, treat divorce like breaking up). But I wonder if that doesn't have something to do with the waters being muddied. Relationships nowadays seem to increase in commitment gradually, and I think I pin it on cohabitation becoming normalized. It's an easy slide from casual dating, to exclusivity, to living together, to engagement, to marriage. That isn't to say that it's not intentional, but I think there is much less delin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:41 AM
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Never. HEY! MEN OF PPD, I DEMAND YOU ALL GET MARRIED RIGHT NOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:35 AM
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Went to a baptism and a BBQ today. The baptism was great. It's awesome to see so many kids and teenagers excited about Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 02:32 AM
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Don't worry about ethics. No. Some people actually value being moral, upstanding people of good character. I don't believe that getting laid through any means necessary is an acceptable goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 12:41 AM
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He's not a bad pick for a LTR. He's just too good of a pick for a LTR. This doesn't make sense, and it seems to be rooted in hurt feelings and solipsism. If I want to drive a nail into a board, I need a hammer. A screwdriver is a bad tool for the job. It can be the most high tech, efficient, aesthetically pleasing screwdriver on earth; but it is not a hammer. If a man doesn't want to marry, then he is a bad candidate for a LTR, no matter what other attractive qualities he may have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 12:37 AM
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Oh, that's simple. One such moral is telling the truth. Don't. You should lie to get laid. Nah. Morals aren't sexually attractive, but they have value in and of themselves. I disagree that sexual strategy is amoral when applied to real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 04:46 PM
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It would be suspicious since most people do by that point. Is he picky? Was he on an oil rig his entire adult life? Social outcast? Right, that was my point. I don't think he's necessarily a bad person, but if a woman has options, she'd do better to pick a man with a better track record.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 04:33 PM
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I don't think those answers about 35+ men are always accurate. Things like commitment issues, gay, perpetual bachelor, whatever else, might not get it all. What if the guy just hasn't found the right woman, or just doesn't want commitment/marriage, or he's been burned, or whatever? That is certainly possible. But your last two examples, "just doesn't want commitment/marriage, or he's been burned" also make him a bad candidate for a LTR in my opinion. I don't like pretending to be a mind-reader, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 04:27 PM
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That still means he's a bad pick for a LTR. You're just agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 04:10 PM
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Well. "Wrong with him" is a loaded way to put it. I would assume that he is a bad pick for a LTR. Either commitment issues, baggage, gay and in the closet, or a perpetual bachelor type.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 08:31 AM
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Does anyone else here feel embarrassed for wanting a relationship after reading posts here and elsewhere? No, most people aren't the kinds of self-interested assholes that pillsphere would lead you to believe. The internet is going to give you a skewed view of how douchey humans are IRL. It's possible to have a harmonious, cooperative relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 07:21 AM
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No, it's more all the name calling mostly. Y'all love throwing out virgin loser comments. Among others. Don't forget stepford wives and doormats for the RPW. To be fair, I think most of our blue pillers are fine and not rude at all compared to what I find in other parts of reddit. There's a minority that get nasty to people they disagree with, but that's true of the red and black pills too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 01:06 AM
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Yes!! That movie was incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 01:03 AM
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It is in April. Although Sundays are rest days, so I came back to haunt y'all for the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 12:58 AM
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A few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 09:47 AM
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Yes, and for long enough to know that it's a good thing. I mean sure every night for the rest of your life is unrealistic, but I hardly think that wanting sex once a day is pathological. If anything it's aspirational.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 09:40 AM
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Where's the fun in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 09:34 AM
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Most dudes without addiction would be craving sex a few times a week, imo. Hitting it every night isn't sex, there's nothing sexual about that. There's another problem that one is seeking relief from and its using sexual energy to get a moment's relief from some internal state of distress. Whoa dude, what planet do you live on where most men only want sex "a few times a week" and having sex every night is a psychological problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 07:57 AM
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My point is that relationships require constant emotions to keep them going, whether they be negative or positive emotions, because one usually follows the other. Stable relationships run the risk of becoming dead relationships. This all sounds horrible. Stability or bust. Ain't no one got time for drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 07:03 AM
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It's true, bitches love flowers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 07:02 AM
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Aw, that's cool dude. I'm happy for you and the lucky lady!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 07:01 AM
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Living up to your flair, I see!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 07:01 AM
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I really just wanted them to live happily ever after. :( I also binge-watched it in a night.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 06:58 AM
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I'm taking a break from pillsphere for Lent. Have fun and don't burn the place down while I'm gone. See y'all after Easter!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 06:13 AM
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This really seems more suited to r/TheBluePill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 06:07 AM
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As a late comer to Jesus - don't you think you should offer him the reassurance that a test would provide Oh, I would do the test and I would try my best to forgive him. It would damage my opinion of my husband, though. I would feel seriously devalued and like he doesn't appreciate the sacrifices I've made for our relationship. And this has nothing to do with Jesus. My husband, while tolerant and supportive of my religion, is an atheist who dated atheist-me for 5 years before I converted. He is …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 02:02 AM
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Should I resubmit it with line breaks? This isn't an official mod response, but I think you should edit your original post to include line breaks (edit, not resubmit). It's not strictly necessary, but it will make it much easier for people to read your post and reply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 11:03 PM
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Unfortunately there is no AutoMod so I will just have to say this here. What is everyone else's opinions on this manner? That it's not worth reading your post when it's a block of solid text with no line breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 09:39 PM
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I pop in there every now and then. Unfortunately I have a great many issues with their theology (which is bound to happen on a liberal website such as Reddit-- I have similar problems in r/Christianity where at least half of them condone homosexuality and transgenderism). I've seen people on the RPChristian sub frequently trying to justify premarital sex and other feel-good vices. But I will say that I always appreciate RPCurious' posts. He seems like he has a good head on his shoulders. There's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 08:58 PM
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Why should I? You asked the reason for my belief, and it is based in religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 08:53 PM
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you should be out promoting the patriarchy then I see you haven't checked out my flair! It's actually one of my favorite parts of the Bible: Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 08:51 PM
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trp would not be around if the majority of women were what you consider morally upright. Yes, you're probably right. In an ideal world, everyone would marry young and only ever have sex with their spouse, who they stay with for life. Unfortunately, that's not the world that we live in. I'm personally more interested in bringing our world a little closer to that reality than enjoying the decline, though. Understanding the root cause of TRP (male unhappiness and the inequality of the SMP) does not…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 08:41 PM
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Because marriage is a holy institution ordained by God, who hates divorce. The primary purpose of marriage isn't individual happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 08:26 PM
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then you should be equally morally judging women who are "loose" and slutty and maybe giving enough guys the wrong message to get plated. I do, but this was a post about the red pill, not my thoughts on women sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 08:15 PM
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Because marriage is a lifetime commitment, and that doesn't change just because things aren't going your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 08:11 PM
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That's fine, we don't have to agree. But now I'm curious: what benefits do you think there are to marrying as a "functional" (and by this I assume you really mean financially independent) adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 07:31 PM
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This doesn't mean anything to me. I don't feel threatened by TRP or afraid that they will "bite" me, but I also don't feel the need to condone it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 07:02 PM
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Take a picture, folks!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 05:12 PM
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Incidentally, I've heard that in the USA you're supposed to keep the room of your kids almost intact, as it was when they left home. Like a museum or room of worship to a departed child. Do you know how crazy that sounds to other people? I live in the US, and this sounds crazy to me. My mom turned my room into an office almost as soon as I left.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 05:12 PM
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But that is not the world we live in. Why do people on PPD act like divorce is a completely random force of nature? The factors that lead to divorce are largely controllable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 05:08 PM
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Well, I don't believe it's true because it's traditional, but because God says it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 05:01 PM
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I don't really care if "rational minds" find it appealing or not. It doesn't stop being true because it's hard to abide.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 04:49 PM
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I think you may have to be tried at The Hague for how tortured that logic is. 😂 I like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 06:28 AM
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Yeah, I took the last one. Sorry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 06:26 AM
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I'm going to be the odd man out here: Yes, I would be upset by this, and I would probably reconsider marrying this person. For the record, I had more assets going into the marriage than my husband did. Neither of us sees divorce as an acceptable option.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 01:33 AM
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I suppose that's what you mean, that men shouldn't be using their knowledge to get what they want from women? I'm fine with this up to a point. Where it begins to contradict Judeo-Christian morality is where I will start to call it immoral. Advice that tells men to never marry and to spin plates (that is, have sex outside of marriage) is immoral. Advice telling men to have a backbone and not kowtow to women, is not immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 01:21 AM
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I think marriage is a lifelong commitment regardless. I've yet to attend a wedding where "til death do us part" isn't included as part of the vows, because as far as I know, most people agree that the goal of marriage is a lifelong relationship. But no, I would not hold other people to different standards and judge their marriage differently based on non-traditional wording. Divorce is failure, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 09:28 PM
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A marriage is only successful if someone dies, yes. We can judge relationships by different metrics, because a relationship and a marriage are not the same thing. You never vowed to love and honor the people you dated, for better or worse, until death, so you're entitled to have whatever standards of success you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 09:17 PM
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Of course there's room for discipline in Christian marriages, and I don't think a husband needs to pussyfoot around his wife at all times; sometimes a husband should rebuke and correct his wife in love. That said, I need to nitpick: "My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires." James 1:19-20 I would be very careful about suggesting that people …
/r/RPChristians12/02/18 04:31 AM
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Nobody expect marriage to be till death anymore. Yes, many of us do. It's literally in the vows. I consider any divorce a failure. Two divorces is an enormous red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:22 AM
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Savage but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:42 AM
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TRP has addressed the moral disagreement - it may be immoral, at the very least unethical, but right out of the gate they self described as amoral. Certain red pillers give me the sense that they don't know what "sexual strategy is amoral" means. It means that the description of sexual strategy-- the reality of it, is amoral because it's merely a statement of facts. There are no "thou shall"s or "thou shalt not"s attached to it. As another red commenter correctly said, "Red pill is knowledge, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 04:50 PM
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Right, so this is a justification of why you think immoral actions are fine, but it does nothing to convince me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 04:48 PM
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Also knowledge is not inmoral, only actions are. And it's some of the actions recommended by the pill subreddits that I find immoral. Although I do think bits and pieces of their "knowledge" are incorrect, that's another issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 04:48 PM
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Many of us have issues with the red pill that have nothing to do with disgust. There's this weird idea that everyone who disagrees with TRP does so out of an emotional reaction, rather than just believing that it's incorrect or immoral. Next to that, is the misconception that people who disagree with TRP must not fully understand it. There are parts of the red pill that I agree with; there are many more parts that I disagree with. Your letter changes nothing about my opinions. Your feelings and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 10:32 PM
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Yes, and I'm sure cavewomen weren't giving cavemen blowjobs or getting facials. Porn plays to male fantasy. It is in no way representative of the kind of sex anyone has historically had in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 08:44 AM
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I probably spend more than $100 when I go out (uber, drinks, cover charge, etc.). Man, you are going to the wrong places then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 08:39 AM
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I didn't say sex was romantic. I said that sex in real life usually looks nothing like porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 08:36 AM
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We don't have any children. There's nothing stopping people from just buying baby wipes to use for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 06:53 AM
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It was pretty empty -- only 11 people used the gym while I was there -- they were all guys. If I walked into a small, unstaffed gym in a hotel, and there was a man in there, I would probably walk right back out. I don't trust strangers that much, and I can just go for a run outside instead. To your completely anecdotal story, I will offer my own anecdote: I only know two men who work out regularly, while most of my female friends do. Hell, I work out at least 5 days a week and my husband hasn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 05:13 AM
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This is a logically disconnected answer. Of course female nature also «needs» to be tamed in a similar sense, and civilizations have done it for thousands of years. Female sexuality is commodified through civilizations-- it's controlled because it's seen as a resource. Therefore it's in men's best interest to control that resource. Nothing about female nature is something that needs to be "tamed" as male nature is. To suggest otherwise is treading pretty close to blank slate, "male and female na…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 02:06 AM
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It's pretty much the best. :3
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 11:45 PM
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Please ask for relationship advice on a sub more suited to those topics, such as r/relationships, r/ppdPersonalAdvice, or r/asktrp.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 11:32 PM
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I’d add sluttiness to that list but that’s just my opinion maaaan. I would agree with you. People should only have sex with their spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 11:24 PM
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Non-sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 11:23 PM
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You do know though that there have been many modalities of civilization throughout history that did not benefit women, children nor the weak By benefit, I mean "generally protect from rape, enslavement, and murder." I don't mean that it makes them particularly happy or gives them a sense of fulfillment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 11:15 PM
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No, civilization benefits women, children, and betas the most. By taming male nature, women have less to fear and have more autonomy. Without civilization, a woman needs a man to protect her from other men-- and in return she'd have to give him sex or other resources; with civilization, a woman has the government and police to protect her and she owes them nothing in return (besides taxes).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 11:07 PM
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Now, if 95% of men are toxic, then we can certainly say that men in general are toxic, that is, masculinity in general is toxic! "Toxic" is a loaded buzzword, so let's get away from that. Masculinity, when not restrained by culture, customs, and laws, is indeed often violent. Civilization tames people's baser impulses, and those who refuse to be tamed are excluded from civilization, either as outcasts or prisoners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 10:30 PM
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Outside? Dunno, I've never used any online dating stuff, just found the hot ones and went for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 09:37 PM
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I would prefer not to, but the person I'm replying to says that porn "shows what happened behind the curtain during the whole of human history." I do not think our grandparents were enacting some Brazzers shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 09:13 PM
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Do you think that most people are having porn sex? Do you think porn is an accurate representation of the kind of sex your grandparents had?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 08:43 PM
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"In my pants" - ZealousMathematician /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 06:11 AM
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For one to be successful in the blue pill world (say, in the realm of marriage), is it necessary for one to continuously kill the person they were the day before? No. I'm not even totally sure what you mean by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 06:07 AM
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OP, the content of this post is fine, but please repost it as a text post instead of a crosspost.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 06:00 AM
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Re: why would women fuck men they're not attracted to: Because she's horny, and they're there. Sometimes the pickings are not good and you get what you get. Jeez, I've had sex with people I found hideous. But I'd never date those people. Dating them would mean having to look at them more often-- you want someone hot for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 11:19 PM
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The marriage would not work, would not have even started, without the physical attractiveness. I don't disagree with you. Sexual attraction is very necessary. But it would not work with ONLY physical attraction either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 09:43 PM
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Yes, I can agree with that. Although, there is a minimum threshold for kindness even for casual sex. I was taking a stranger home from a party once and changed my mind halfway to my house because he laughed at a homeless man who asked us for money. I told him to leave and went home by myself. There's a certain amount of "asshole" that's unacceptable for any kind of intimate interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 09:41 PM
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Badass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 09:18 PM
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It seems like your husband is a very desire-driven man, and that he acts from his desires and what he wants to do. The type of guy I am talking about is the opposite, he extends himself to serve and be of use to others. The self desires are entirely absent. I think both of these traits can be present in a balanced individual, which is why I think that kindness isn't inherently unattractive. Like, I'm a SAHW. My husband works hard to make enough money to support us both, not because he necessaril…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 07:14 PM
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No worries!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 06:38 PM
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My parents still have hope for me that I'm just lapsed and that I'll come around eventually. Unlikely, but I appreciate the private education. Life is long, man. You never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:31 AM
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Especially not my husband who turned into an extremely considerate, responsible man from a hell-raising hoodlum. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 10:09 PM
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Sure, I mean you're gonna have to take my word for it because if you assume I'm lying, then any conversation we have is going to be moot. But that said, you can go through my post history and find me talking up my husband for the past couple years, way before my religious conversion. What I see in this conversation, is you ignoring new information that doesn't fit your worldview. You haven't managed to tell me how I'm scamming anyone-- because the truth is I'm not. I met my husband in my slutty …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 10:03 PM
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What I quoted is directly out of the PPD rules. Please read them or message the mods through modmail with any questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 07:51 PM
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Uh, no. I got with my husband when I was 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 07:50 PM
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Does he know you have beliefs like that now? Yeah, I've talked about it with him especially because I've struggled with what the Bible says about homosexuality, considering my own feelings on it. It's a long story and not an easy thing for me to come to terms with. He knows all about the debates I've had with my pastor trying to figure it out. Basically, he's a very nonjudgmental person who thinks everyone is entitled to their own view, no matter how wrong it seems (man, how did I end up with su…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 10:24 AM
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Like I said, a bit alarmed. I might worry about how our relationship would change as a result of his new beliefs. Obviously I'd just have to deal with it, though. Would be hypocritical of me not to be supportive of him in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 10:09 AM
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Yeah, fair. If the shoe was on the other foot, I would at the very least be alarmed if he suddenly converted to Islam or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 09:44 AM
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Ah, okay. Yes, you're right that he would probably not like the idea of gay people needing to be celibate. I don't talk about that stuff IRL, though-- pretty much for that reason. It would make a lot of people angry with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 09:43 AM
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don't think he cares that much. I'm not sure if you're imagining me preaching at him, but we rarely talk religion. Most of the changes that I've made as a result of Christianity have been good for him since they're things like believing that wives should submit to their husbands-- something I certainly never believed in as an atheist. I appreciate your concern for our relationship, but things are going very well. He literally just grabbed me while I was washing the dishes and told me I'm the bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 09:36 AM
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Considering he just married me two months ago, he's obviously pretty fine with it. The time to bolt would have been before tying the knot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 09:12 AM
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Just got back to your in your other comment!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 07:53 AM
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Sure, I don't see why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 07:39 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 07:36 AM
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But the Bible says David was a man after Gods own heart. Yes, but David still did some bad things. Among other things, he got Uriah killed in order to steal his wife Bathsheba. Clearly him being a man after God's own heart doesn't mean that everything he did was godly or holy. One of the reasons for marriage-- to paint a picture of the relationship between Christ (husband) and his Church (wife), breaks down in the case of polygamy. There is only one Church, not many. The Bible says that a husban…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 07:13 AM
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No, it's just basic reasoning. Good sex is more enjoyable than bad sex; humans tend to seek out positive stimuli and avoid negative stimuli.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 06:35 AM
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Removed for race-baiting. You can argue without using ad hom digs at other users' racial backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 06:28 AM
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Because gender roles are still alive and well in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 06:25 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 06:22 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 06:22 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 06:21 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 06:18 AM
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I would say that a couple who are making each other miserable probably aren't following God's plan for relationships either. But I think the answer is for both people to do a better job of living the way husbands and wives are told to live-- selflessly and peacefully with each other. Divorce isn't the only answer, and I don't think it's the best answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 06:14 AM
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Assuming some base level of attraction is already there (and I would hope there is-- you married this person after all), good sex generally makes a person want to have more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 01:43 AM
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When I originally posted it wasn't even tagged as a CMV, if I recall correctly it didn't have a tag at all. All posts except CMV posts must have neutral titles. The post is an assertion of the OP's opinion, therefore it's a CMV post. In the future, please appeal moderator decisions through modmail and not in the comment section.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:24 PM
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I think bad sex has a whole hell of a lot to do with it, honestly. I have a very, very hard time seeing a woman consistently turning down sex that's getting her off and making her feel good. Someone on PPD the other day described their ideal marital sex life as "getting my dick sucked everyday." While there's nothing wrong with that per se, it struck me as a very selfish attitude toward sex, and I wonder if that dude is licking his wife's pussy everyday. If sex is primarily an activity done to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 10:06 AM
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No worries! Thanks for being chill about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:52 AM
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Here's the thing, the mods are all volunteers who have jobs, families, and other responsibilities. We do our best to remove rule-breaking comments as soon as they're brought to our attention, but we aren't at our computers checking r/PurplePillDebate all day every day. What you can do to help us, is to actually report all the rule-breaking comments that you see. This isn't directed at you specifically, but the community as a whole. I went through every single CMV thread today (and there were 4) …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:25 AM
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No worries. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 06:26 AM
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Oh dear. Thanks for the head's up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 06:01 AM
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No, slippery slope is another logical fallacy. Reductio ad absurdum is a sound method of argument (not a fallacy), which means "reduction to absurdity." It's a way to show that the argument a person is making (like OP's stance on sexual assault) inevitably leads to an absurd and impractical conclusion. u/zarmock says "Unless a man confesses to Crime A (Rape), there's no reason to think that he's guilty." And here u/RockinSocksII brings up the possibility of evidence, and uses a different crime t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 06:00 AM
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No worries
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:51 AM
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Top level comments in a CMV thread need to attempt to challenge the OP's view. All other commentary or agreement may be posted under the AutoMod comment thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:48 AM
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That's actually not a strawman. It's reductio ad absurdum, which is a legitimate debate strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:47 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:45 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:45 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:44 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:43 AM
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Reminder to the community: Top level comments in a CMV thread need to attempt to challenge the OP's view. All other commentary or agreement may be posted under the AutoMod comment thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:39 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:39 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:38 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:38 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:37 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:37 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:37 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:36 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:35 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:33 AM
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Jokes and comments not attempting to challenge the OP's view belong under the AutoMod thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:32 AM
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Thank you for admitting to ban evasion. You have now been permabanned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:18 AM
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This should go without saying, but do not personally attack other users.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:09 AM
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We've had this conversation before. Obviously the real Bechdel test for men is: Is there a woman making at least one sandwich for a man in the movie? If she takes a bite it doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 08:01 PM
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Oh, I'm sure it's possible. I guess I always just hung out with people who knew their limits pretty well. There were some college instances of girls getting so drunk they started sobbing and screaming at their exes, or puking in the bushes, but no one ever passed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 07:57 PM
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Like humans? Get out of town.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 07:35 PM
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The recent Jumanji remake (IT IS HORRIBLE, DON'T EVER WATCH IT). Here's a list thanks to some quick Googling
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 07:29 PM
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I don't think drunkenness equals a lack of consent unless the person is incapacitated. Unconscious drunk = cannot consent. So drunk that she can't speak, or can't move her body to push you off even if she wanted to = cannot consent. I don't know about you, but I've literally never seen a person get this drunk. Most drunk sex is just that: drunk sex, not rape. "I was drunk" doesn't absolve a person of infidelity, the same way it doesn't absolve a person of killing a pedestrian if they decided to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 07:15 PM
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No but this "new epidemic" is mostly older people. Nope, not in cities it's not. Seems like every young person wants to be some kind of special snowflake gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 01:22 AM
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Are there four leaf clovers involved?^Is^^that^^^racist??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 01:10 AM
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I don't get turned on by thinking about having sex "as a woman." How about this: I'm Asian. Does the concept you're talking about still make sense to you when applied to another intrinsic part of a person? Do you think I get turned on about having sex "as an Asian"? Or do you think that I just imagine my husband and the fun stuff we'll do in bed later, like a normal person?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 01:01 AM
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I watched the relevant portion of the video, and all it did was convince me that many trans individuals are autogynophilic and projecting their autogynophilia onto women. I did not at all relate to what they were describing as "typical female sexuality." It seemed to be a person talking about fitting into the stereotype of female sexuality that they have in their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 12:58 AM
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Judging by the number of upvotes I got, I'd say there's at least eight! RIP womankind: we coulda saved the world, if only we hadn't been picking up so many socks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 09:09 AM
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Here's a quick infographic I found via Google. The average length of time from first date to engagement is 3-4 years, and the average length of time from engagement to marriage is 1.5 years. Since the average age of marriage for women in the US is 27, that puts women as beginning to date their future husbands at 21-23. This describes what I see around me, among my peers who have gotten married. Hell, it even describes my own relationship: I started dating my husband when I was 21 and didn't marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 04:50 AM
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Girl alights from the carousel at, oh, around 27, and has decided It Is Time To Get Serious About Finding A Husband. 27 is the average age that women get married in the US, but that does not mean it's when they decide to jump off the CC. Women are mostly meeting and dating the men who will become their husbands in their early- to mid-20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 12:38 AM
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Well the men I know aren't like the ones on Reddit, but people here tell me I live in a tradcon bubble. So who knows what "most people" are actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 08:06 AM
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I've already warned you not to witch hunt other users.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 05:22 AM
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Pro tip: Make sure you drink enough that the beer goggles don't fall off halfway through.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 12:29 AM
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That sounds shitty too! I think both people should sincerely and regularly thank each other for their contributions to the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 10:32 PM
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It's the fact that you have to do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and you are never, ever done with it. The war is never won. You just fight to keep the mess at bay.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 10:32 PM
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Yes, I married a very handsome guy who was raised by wolves or something. Haha, I know the feeling! They're worth it though, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 10:28 PM
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I lived with nasty roommates and honestly the only solution was all of us chipping in to get a maid every two weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 10:25 PM
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One should not add to the work unnecessarily. What would you consider adding to the work unnecessarily?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 10:00 PM
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If you see someone breaking rules, please report it or message the moderators through modmail. PMing me about issues is not one of the proper channels.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:22 PM
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most men very much want to be desired by women too, and get turned on by it. Well that would be the ideal, right? Of course everyone would prefer that if it were an option. But generally speaking, men as a whole are less put off by "paying for it," compared to women. It could be higher male sex drive, but I think there is less revulsion at play. I think men are more able to enjoy the purely physical aspects of seeing a hooker, mental stuff aside. I just don't think that women are as able to do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 12:58 AM
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Yes, but I know that they're only there because I'm paying them. No amount of acting can make me un-know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 12:55 AM
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I'm pretty sure I would pay money to avoid having to fuck a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 12:13 AM
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Absolutely. The sex with a prostitute wouldn't be "great." It would be incredibly embarrassing to 99% of women. She would be incapable of enjoying it, because most of sex is internal (as in, having to do with her mental state and feelings) for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 12:10 AM
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This fundamentally misunderstands the nature of female sexual desire. Women are aroused by attractive men desiring them. The idea of someone having sex with me because I PAID them is horrifying to me. I have no interest in having sex with someone who doesn't want to have sex with me, no matter how attractive or technically good at sex they are. It would be utterly unenjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 11:29 PM
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It's both. I don't know if you were raised in the same kinds of churches that I was, but we were taught to put everyone's needs before our own; we come last-- and that goes for men and women. And of course, you put your spouse first of all, right after God. Edit: We were even taught an acronym for it: Jesus first Others next You last And that's how you have JOY in your life, by being unselfish and making that your priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 10:49 PM
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Well we can both agree that a great sex life is possible in a traditional marriage. We might disagree on the exact contents of that sex life, but I can appreciate your position on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 09:11 PM
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Yeah, I can agree with that. It lines up with what I see IRL. Men who say that they don't believe in marriage usually change their minds once they meet the right woman (my husband was one of those).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 09:10 PM
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Also, how is a pair of handcuffs or a blindfold more objectionable than a DP vibrator? I've got no ideological issues with handcuffs or a blindfold. I have an issue when sex starts to veer into degradation or pain play-- because I don't think there's really a way to spin that as being loving to the other. Incidentally, this is the same kind of issue I have with the doublethink of liberal feminism. Not all choices are valid ones, and not all desires are moral ones that should be indulged. And ALL…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:58 PM
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Just take your upvote and go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:55 PM
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Only if you roleplay as My Little Pony, because that shit's just weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:50 PM
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Eh I termed it wrong. People weren't watching us, we just wanted the thrill of possibly being caught. Outdoors sex rather than public - incidentally something that the pagan druids were mightily in favour of as it's supposed to increase virility. Christians are still required to obey the laws of the land unless they contradict the Bible-- so public sex is still out. The purpose of porn is literally to provoke lust, so no, I do not believe that you can watch porn and not feel lust for the actress…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:45 PM
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Seriously? Fine. Normal sex stuff: All sex positions Manual sex (fingering/handjobs) Oral sex Sex toys Lingerie
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:43 PM
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So, obviously public sex and using porn as a sex aid is wrong because it involves other people in your sex life. Porn causes you to lust after people who are not your spouse. What I've heard, is that "God blesses what arouses us when it violates neither love of God or love of each other." Which rules out BDSM, because I believe that treating another person in an unloving way, even as play, is wrong and against God's design for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:28 PM
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Then you did it wrong. I'm pretty sure mads is saying "as leader of the house, the leader needs to understand the needs of his people and address them." Thank you! This is exactly what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:24 PM
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the OP and title of this thread says RP men don't want to marry tradcon girls. the post i'm replying to says RP men wouldn't marry a tradcon girl. it's not the same thing. i'm not disagreeing with your view of RP actions. You're right. I just read over the comment you're replying to, and I must have been more tired than I thought last night, because I am basically suggesting that men hop in a time machine! Apologies for the confusion. So a better question, then: Do you think RP men would marry u…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:21 PM
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Sure. For much the same reason older married men are heavily discouraging young men from marrying and becoming fathers. The pendulum has fully swung the other way and marriage is much more advantageous for women than for men. Sorry, I don't understand your point. Would you mind clarifying? If marriage is more advantageous for women, then why are older women discouraging young wives from being SAHMs? That seems to be counterintuitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:17 PM
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"What's mine is mine, and that's yours is mine." -Men, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:15 PM
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I enjoyed MRP in the days of TheFamilyAlpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:14 PM
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I'm sure there are other women out there that also don't want that, but most wouldn't mind being a SAHM, and a lot would actively prefer that with a trad man. But a lot of guys also don't want their wife to stop working to SAHM, or they just can't afford it. I think "can't afford it" is the case most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:09 PM
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Men make themselves sexually dependent on wives when they marry. Yet women don't want to make themselves financially reliant on men. I think a lot of them would be willing to do so if given the option, actually. It's one of those things that doesn't sound good to them in the abstract, but I think if they had a man who they loved and trusted, who proposed it-- most women would be up for doing this. But like you pointed out in your earlier comment, this is almost an impossibility because most men …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:08 PM
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Men are not going to resurrect marriage just because women have wised up and now pinky-swear they will behave themselves, because why the fuck should we do all that work when we are happy with the way things are? Right, so it looks like you agree with my OP. Everything you're saying is the message that I'm getting loud and clear from RP men. No, if marriage is going to be saved, then women have to do it, because they are the only ones who stand to benefit. Yes, I don't disagree. Women and the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:04 PM
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This makes me feel... some type of way about humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:01 PM
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YES. I don’t give a shit if he feels like he is missing out. (Pun intended). If he is willing to divorce or harbor years of resentment over anal sex then he is truly a shitty husband. And personally, I think it's ridiculous that men expect anal sex in marriage. I don't think wives should make a habit of denying their husbands sexually WITHIN REASON. A husband demanding anal sex is not something that I deem reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:00 PM
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It's a little annoying to have partners who swear it doesn't hurt and they know what they're doing, "I promise you'll like it if you give it another try" and then, surprise, it hurts like a bitch! I equate those lines with "I promise, just the tip, pleeeeeeeese?" Some men are, quite frankly, actually too large for anal sex to ever be comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:00 PM
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Technically breaking up with him is a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:52 PM
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Ok, this is a very good point. The core manosphere teachings aren't necessarily anti-marriage (I always enjoyed Athol Kay). I was focusing on the reddit pillsphere, but you're right to point out that isn't the whole of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:47 PM
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Sounds like you're describing financial predators, then. Not sexual predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:45 PM
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The woman was created for the benefit of man Women were created to glorify and serve God, just like any other of his creatures. That said, it is a wife's role to be a helper to her husband. Nothing you're saying is something that I disagree with. Yes, husbands are meant to be leaders. But they need to lead with selflessness and prayer, putting God first and their families next. None of this means he isn't the leader. He's a leader with a great responsibility to shepherd his wife and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:42 PM
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So you agree with my post, then. That most RP men (including you) would not marry any woman, even a tradcon girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:39 PM
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I would say that you don't understand Christian headship then. Husbands are the head of the household as Christ is the head of the Church. Christ's model of leadership was one of servant leadership and sacrifice. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and l gave Himself for her Ephesians 5:25 Women need to trust their husbands and submit to them in all things, unless he's asking her to do something that directly contradicts God's word. This means that husbands have a res…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:35 PM
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Thank you! It's one of my favorite parts of the Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:26 PM
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Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 11:56 AM
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I agree with you. I see a lot of men in pillsphere lamenting how unfair custody arrangements are, but I never meet men IRL who want sole custody of their children. Most men seem happy to let their exes do most of the childcare, they just don't want to pay child support. Is this a trend that should or could be changed? Would it better for the society if there were more single fathers raising the kids instead of single mothers? Honestly, I think they're both pretty equally bad outcomes. What would…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 11:09 AM
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It's a little more tragic than that. They are trying to kill a want they know they will never have. Well that is depressing. Honestly, I think people in general are seeking to fill a "God-shaped hole" in their hearts via romantic love. Even if you aren't religious, most people in the US were raised culturally Christian and grew up with that God-myth of a loving, forgiving Savior. I think it leaves deep imprints on people's psyches. Leaving this the only option. And it may be rather humanizing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 10:12 AM
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I don't dismiss RP. I don't call myself a red piller anymore because I have too many ideological differences (mostly surrounding sex and marriage), but I don't think they're entirely wrong. They have some valid points. I'm not denying that Marriage 2.0 is risky for men, or that feminism has made a lot of women into poor candidates for wives. I get that. I just think there is some intellectual dishonesty there when RPers speak wistfully about Marriage 1.0, because I do not think most of them woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 09:54 AM
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And here's the fracture. If youre for Marriage 1.0, how are women wanting this definition of marriage going to attract a worthy guy in this modern "sex positive" society? By finding like-minded men with similar values. Amazingly (and I am not being facetious, I see it as something of a minor miracle), there are still men out there who don't expect porn-sex from their women. I'm not advocating for sexless marriages, not by any means. I believe marital sex should be frequent and enthusiastic. Howe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 09:41 AM
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I'll get him. I'm a persistent fucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 09:38 AM
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no, we are just trying to optimize our lives for the environment we live in. our ancestors lived in a world where marriage 1.0 was a legitimate goal, but now we live in the modern, sexually liberated world where only an idiot would get married. we embrace the decline because it's the best possible strategy. So let's go back to the hypothetical I proposed in my post. If I offered you a nice tradcon girl tomorrow, and I told you that you could marry her and have Marriage 1.0, and that no-fault div…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 09:36 AM
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Absolutely not. Marrying an 18 yo virgin that will be a proper housewife that welcomes you home with a proper home cooked meal after a long days work and invites you into the bedroom at the end of the night? Yeah, I have no problem supporting her. Cool, I can accept this. Obviously what I wrote in my OP doesn't describe you, and I respect that. This is the opposite of TRP. Most on TRP will claim men and women are biologically different. They do, but I still see them expecting men and women to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 09:34 AM
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and i'm wondering if you can see the reason behind the bullshit of some users on MRP. Of course. I'm not saying that their wives are perfect angels. It sounds like many of them are married to truly difficult women who fight them at every turn. Obviously that's not ideal, and I have sympathy for men in bad marriages. Still, I don't see them advocating marriage. They seem to believe that marriage as a whole is a lost cause. Oh, yeah, they brought that? Okay. That wasn't done for thousands of years…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 09:23 AM
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I think they DO want "traditional wives". They don't, though, because most of them are very much against supporting a SAHM. Men seem to want the good of modernity without the responsibilities or downsides. They want a loyal wife who takes care of the house and children, but who they don't have to support financially. Men appear to want wives who are find with doing threesomes and having degrading fetish sex, which is in no way traditional. Feminism brought an indifference to men and required rev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:59 AM
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Right, you're talking about already-married men. Do you agree that the majority of red pilled men would not want marriage under any circumstances?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:51 AM
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According to a weirdo evangelical An ad hom is not a valid argument. Do you yourself disagree with what I wrote? Would you like a traditional marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:42 AM
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But many on TRP are not. Positive masculinity and the "family Alpha" subcultures are promoting marriage quite readily I know of TheFamilyAlpha and enjoy his writing, but he's an outlier. Even the men on MRP regularly tell men not to marry if they're not already married. I don't think red pillers are a notable majority by any means, but they definitely discourage marriage as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:05 AM
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Nope, took a look through OP's post history, turns out he's a man. Ultimately, polyamory and other non-binary sexual relationships will be identified as a major component in the dissolution of modern state society. I agree, but the red pill rejection of marriage isn't helping either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 06:50 AM
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Is this so egregious though? This all boils down to TRP not liking marriage right? Personally I think divorce and avoidance of marriage is a societal ill. It is contributing to the demolition of the stable family unit. So yes, I think it is a bad thing. Loyalty huh. For each TRP dude who says that I could probably find a misandrist who says the same thing about men. Of course you could. Nevertheless, I don't think it's an attitude that makes for a good spouse. "Women do it too," does nothing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 06:46 AM
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Several of us believe that differences between men and women are innate. It's impossible to completely "kill gender norms," because they're a part of who we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 06:33 AM
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How is it a scam?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 06:29 AM
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It won't, because passivity is part of female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 06:25 AM
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Nope, not at all. I don't think #MeToo has any real effect on people outside of the manosphere and Tumblr. It's an internet phenomenon and most normal people have taken no heed of it. In fact, I doubt most of the people I interact with regularly would even know what it was if I mentioned it to them. I expect that the status quo will hold wrt dating. In any case, the men who are most bold and doing most of the "asking women out" are unlikely to be scared by feminist whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 05:45 AM
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I just call "dating" interacting with someone in a romantic capacity. Contrast this with "being friends." Dating doesn't need to imply exclusivity, but it does imply that you are romantically involved with this person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 05:41 AM
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No personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 05:38 AM
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Like I replied to someone else in a comment, usually blue pillers are responding negatively to the ideological components of TRP, including but not limited to: Women are children/ the oldest teenager in the house Women are incapable of loyalty Men are the true romantics, and women are incapable of loving men She's not yours, it's just your turn Marriage is to be avoided at all costs It's an acceptable goal to "spin plates" I would not be interested in someone who held these beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:47 AM
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Working out, dressing well, and having boundaries are not all that red pill is, though. If that was all that it was, you would see significantly less pushback from blue pillers. Usually, people are responding negatively to the ideological components, including but not limited to: Women are children/ the oldest teenager in the house Women are incapable of loyalty Men are the true romantics, and women are incapable of loving men She's not yours, it's just your turn Marriage is to be avoided at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:45 AM
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Or we just disagree with it. I know this might be controversial for you, but we genuinely don't believe that women with an anxious-preoccupied attachment style are all that exist. I'm never really sure why some RPers can't understand the fact that people genuinely disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:40 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:39 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:37 AM
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Edit2: now flaired properly as discussion. Any chance we can just assume it's discussion if not flaired? We have had some good replies nuked. No, your post is flaired as CMV, because you have a post title that is not neutral. ONLY CMV threads may have titles that contain an opinion, at which point it is up to the commenters to debate you. We do not allow "agreement circlejerks" on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:36 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:33 AM
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It's not explicitly listed in our rules, but we generally remove them, and it's covered under the rules "no woe is me posts" and "bad starting point for discussion." There are many other subreddits that cater to advice-seeking, but this is not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:28 AM
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Removed for "woe is me" posting. Please do not seek personal advice on PPD. There are other subreddits better suited to that, including TRP, ppdPersonalAdvice, and r/relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:26 AM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:24 AM
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You are absolutely right that this thread turned into a circlejerk, and as a member of the mod team, I want to apologize that it got this far. I've tried to clean it up, but in the future, please report circlejerking comments on CMV posts!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:18 AM
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Do not make personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:14 AM
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Do not make personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:11 AM
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Please avoid personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 02:09 AM
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I realize this post is winding down, but reminder to all participants: If you are responding to a post marked CMV, you must challenge the poster's view in your comment. All other comments belong under the AutoMod comment thread, or they will be removed. Also, a reminder to NOT downvote people who post opinions you disagree with. This is a debate subreddit, not a circlejerk arena.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 01:58 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 01:52 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 01:52 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 01:46 AM
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Please try r/ppdPersonalAdvice for topics like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:50 AM
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But the child’s parent always being an active or present part of your life now. This is the part that would put me off more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:07 AM
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That is so sweet! I'm happy for you, and your family sounds lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:01 AM
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Never ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:00 AM
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I think he was. iirc, he once said he went more purple after spending enough time here. I went from blue to red to ??? during my time on this sub. People definitely do change their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 05:53 AM
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I have actually be considering switching to green or gold flair to match the rest of the team, but after this thread I’m not going to 😂 I literally only took a green flair because I don't know what pill I am anymore. Don't make me choose!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 05:52 AM
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God, can you imagine how much time that would take? NO THANK YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 05:51 AM
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<3
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 05:49 AM
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Obviously any sub with debate like ours is going to get heated, and moderation is difficult, but I think our team does well considering the circumstances. Aw, shucks! <3
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 05:49 AM
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I suggest you look up the definitions of both "honorable" and "ethical" in a dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 01:38 AM
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It wasn't a cheap shot. I am genuinely curious for the sake of furthering the dialogue, but of course you're free to keep the answer private if you'd prefer. I'm not sure if this is the reason you don't see the nuance between the two words.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 01:30 AM
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No, you're just deciding to ignore the established meaning of two words in order to substitute your own. Is English your first language?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:34 AM
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We're talking about professions, and marriage is not a profession. Honor: "Deserving of respect or high regard." I said nothing about ethics. In fact, you seem determined to put words in my mouth. Nowhere did I say that prostitution is unethical. I said it's not HONORABLE, in that it isn't a profession that people typically respect or hold in high regard. Tell me honestly, with a straight face, that you admire prostitutes and hold them in high regard. Tell me you'd be happy to marry a prostitute…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:11 AM
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I think you're really overstating the difficulty of getting a man to love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 04:24 PM
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My asking about marriage was a rhetorical question. The person I was replying to was shifting the goal posts, as no one was discussing marriage before he brought it up. Prostitution is not an "honorable" job by any normal usage of the word. This isn't a value judgment on prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 09:46 AM
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I'm not saying "hookers are bad." Someone said "prostitution is an honorable profession," and I am disagreeing with that. Where does marriage come in?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 07:36 AM
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Why not? Because it's seen as trashy and not socially acceptable. You can't tell your grandma that you're a hooker. Most men wouldn't want to marry a hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 06:26 AM
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What's with so many women somehow believing that they can just make demands and men will line up to fulfill them? Because men will pretty much give you whatever you want if you're what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 06:10 AM
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Oh, good point. This sounds like a much better idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 04:22 AM
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Small dogs are barely dogs! Closer to rats than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:52 AM
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Alright, you caught me. I'm a champion at wrestling grade school children. It's what I do when I'm not on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:25 AM
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My husband just gave me a pocket knife and told me "go for the eyes." 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 01:21 AM
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I'll bite. I'm one of the women that said I feel uneasy walking alone at night when there's no one else around. A certain amount of walking alone at night is necessary to be a functioning adult. When I was younger, for instance, I lived in a bad part of Oakland. People shooting up the block was not uncommon. I also got off work around midnight some nights. The bus stop was a good 15 minutes' walk from my house, and it passed by some spooky people. Man that walk was always terrifying. I couldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 10:34 PM
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When I'm alone in a minimally populated area, yes. Even if it's a nice area. For example, I live in a nice neighborhood, but a quiet one. I rarely see my neighbors. I feel uneasy walking up to the gate to my house in the dark (as in, aware that someone could come up behind me and grab me/mug me), and always feel better when it locks behind me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:28 PM
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My thoughts exactly. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 03:54 PM
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clutches pearls
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 03:53 PM
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I have other friends who said they would never bring a girl they were dating around their friends before it was long term solid commitment for fear the girl might end up sleeping with one of them. Man this makes me wonder about the kind of girlfriend/friends they have. At the very least you'd think the friends would avoid doing that out of consideration for your bro. I enjoyed reading about your experience and views as well. Thanks for being so chill! It's always a rare treat to have a civil dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:57 AM
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Are age differences relevant here? If your husband had a meeting with a 60 year old women are you really worried he is going to cheat? Or its somehow inappropriate? That's a good point. It's generally accepted in my church that a person meeting up with a much-older (as in 70s-80s) person is fine. Why do you think every situation of a man hanging out with a women is a test of willpower? I don't think it is. Despite what you may think, I haven't lived under a rock my whole life, and before I start…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:45 AM
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Congratulations to your parents! My parents follow this rule as well. They're so cute and in love, and happily married!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:30 AM
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I have less of a problem with work-related meetings than socializing. Obviously you'd have to tolerate a certain amount of opposite-sex contact in modernity, in order to have a job. I'm more concerned with hanging out for non-business related reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:29 AM
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I believe it will create less trust because, it will create situations where, outside of conservative communities, one person in the relationship won't follow it and the other will, despite the one who is following it thinking the other is doing the same. It could lead to unsuspected cheating, or feelings of suspicion. Maybe I can speak to this. I'm religious and my husband isn't. He is less strict about adhering to this than I am; I do it for religious reasons and because it's the way I was rai…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:18 AM
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Its also based on a really ignorant premise - that human beings are completely incapable of controlling animal desires with any member of the opposite sex. Absurd! As someone who follows this rule, it's not that I think humans are incapable of controlling themselves. I'm quite confident in my ability to avoid cheating, and I don't think that my husband would ever cheat on me. It's that I think it's better to not put yourself in a position to be tempted at all. Why test your willpower if it's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:14 AM
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You do you, man. I can see that kind of nonchalance being attractive in a man that I wasn't that attached to. My husband's tried to fight a dude who grabbed my hand in front of him once, so that's more my speed. I like the mateguarding kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:06 AM
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I can see how a person might not want to follow the Billy Graham rule to a T due to professional concerns. But leaving aside the office, do you think it's beneficial to adhere to it in a purely social capacity? As in, do you think it's wise for a husband to avoid hanging out with other women one-on-one recreationally? (And the same applying to a wife, obviously; I don't know what gender you are.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:40 AM
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As for a relationship, I don't think its necessary to stay away from women to make my gf more comfortable. Are you fine with her having male friends or texting/calling them? Basically, if you don't want to follow the BG rule in a relationship, are you fine with her doing the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:37 AM
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i think it makes sense to avoid being alone one-on-one with the opposite sex (or the sex that you're attracted to), but personally this doesn't seem like it would be 'improper' in quite the same way Yes, I can agree with you there. This particular practice is something that I haven't heard of except in Mike Pence's case. Then again, it would depend on the social function. A family or work event with alcohol, or even a dinner party at a friend's house-- fine; a house party, ehhhh. i suppose it de…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:35 AM
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Honestly no, because I don't think your case is an anomaly. Girls that say they "get along better with men" and "just don't connect with women" are plentiful. In fact, this describes most women that I've known. For context, when I was single, most of my friends were men. I stopped hanging out with them when I began dating my husband. I still don't think it's appropriate to have male friendships while in a serious relationship. I think it's better to cut those friendships off and cultivate female…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:23 AM
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So do you agree with me that it's a good thing for couples to adopt? Do you follow the Billy Graham rule in your own life? (or if you're not in a relationship right now, would you?)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:19 AM
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Wait, for real?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:13 AM
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Awesome, this is really detailed list. Yes, I can definitely see how it would disrupt your lives. I think practices like this tend to work best when your friends and peers all hold similar values.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:09 AM
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And it is not one size fits all. If a woman has had a male friend for a long time, it is unreasonable for her to be expected to stop texting them and hanging out with him one on one. I don't think most men would be comfortable with this. A great many RP-minded people think that it's impossible for men and women to be platonic friends. For example, most men would usually gladly have sex with their female friends if the woman offered. There is often an undercurrent of sexual desire from at least o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:07 AM
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Leaving aside work-related instances, since I know jobs make strict adherence to this impossible: how would your social life suffer? I'm trying to picture it. Can you give me of an example of something you or your husband would no longer be able to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:00 AM
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You can't use mike pence as an example because he and Trump are politically nuclear entities, anything they do will be criticized and condemned. Politics don't have much to do with it. I just mentioned Pence because I think he might be the only frame of reference most people on PPD have for the Billy Graham rule. I'm uncertain of their upbringing, while I know this has been in the news recently. Second, this rule in the big picture won't help outside of conservative communities. It will create a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:56 AM
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Which is why I think this is a timely opportunity to discuss the Billy Graham rule! Don't you think adherence to this rule would cut down on the number of sexual assault allegations? Obviously I believe both genders should follow it, but that's up to people to decide in their own relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:55 AM
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My personal opinion is if you are in a relationship, imagine the person you love standing next to you and ask yourself if your actions would hurt that person. If yes, don't do it. I like this rule of thumb, too. A friend of mine follows this one, and it always seemed smart to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:50 AM
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I think maybe you've misunderstand the reasoning behind the Billy Graham rule. It's not meant to keep you away from a person you're dating. Rather, it's meant to keep you away from other men once you have a SO. So, of course you would be allowed to call, text, and meet up with your boyfriend/husband... you just wouldn't be allowed to do those things with other men who you're not related to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:50 AM
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Obviously I agree with you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:48 AM
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Surely I'm entitled to fire back at her for it. No, you're not. If you see someone breaking the rules, please report the offending comment(s) and let the mods take care of it. We often don't see comments unless they're reported. There is no amnesty for "he/she started it."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:46 AM
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Yeah, this is not okay. Do not personally attack other users.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:40 AM
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I'm curious how it would prevent a person from going places. Can you elaborate and give an example? It would make it impossible to make plans to hang out with the opposite sex alone, but I can't see how it would pose a problem beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:25 AM
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Yeah, this doesn't always happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 11:52 PM
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I'm not sure. I seem to remember statistics on doctors having higher divorce rates, I would assume due to hectic hours and stress. But I'm not sure how stressful a job would have to be in order for it to have an effect on your average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 11:30 PM
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Well yes, nearly everyone in my age group has had at least one relationship over 5 years. Some married, others did not Then it sounds like it's not a case of putting career over marriage. Sounds like they tried (and did what most people do), but it didn't work out. I think finding a compatible LTR is at least some part luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 07:00 AM
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Derrrrp, there I go with the solipsism. Yeah, this assumes that your SO is buoying you up rather than dragging you down like a lead weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 04:43 AM
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I mean yes, I think if you're still single at 35-40 you've largely missed the boat. That said, most of my peers met their husbands in their early- to mid-20s and married around 27-29. I don't tend to see people putting off dating altogether. I think people who are single in their 30s probably had failed LTRs that left them on the market so late.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 04:39 AM
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This is a fine topic for discussion, but we ask that people wait 12 hours before submitting new posts after making previous posts. This is to encourage OP to participate in the threads they make. Feel free to resubmit this post after 12 hours have passed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 03:49 AM
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PPD is a place for debate. I suggest you try /r/ppdPersonalAdvice or another subreddit geared toward advice for individual situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 10:27 PM
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Well. Considering I'm bisexual with a slight preference for women... no, I don't find lesbian sex repulsive. I think most straight women find it repulsive, in the sense that they have 0 interest in participating in it. Most straight girls are "barsexual" at best-- they'll make out with another girl at a party (to put on a show for men), but they won't have sex with another woman. Litmust test: Is she into eating pussy? If the answer is no, then she's straight as an arrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 10:03 PM
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Granted, I'm bisexual so I don't really count towards this assessment. But back when I still watched porn, dude: men in porn are ugly. They're mostly selected for having big dicks I guess, cause their faces are busted. Really ruins the mood when you're looking at these gross dudes fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 09:34 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 04:21 PM
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You don't think women in your position are going to have to settle quite significantly? Not really. Women have a pretty serious upper-hand in the SMP, especially if they're above average in terms of looks. Plus, I think women with my view on this are going to tend to be traditional and religious, which means they're going to meet and select for like-minded traditional, religious men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:40 AM
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Yup. I remember at the beginning of our relationship, I thought my husband and I had "nothing in common." We have very different taste in books, music, and art. He actively hates the music I listen to. But over time I realized that we're actually very similar in a bunch of ways that matter more, like values and attitude toward family and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:33 AM
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Of course there's a difference. Obviously no one is going to bang their coworker in the middle of the office on a Tuesday. But all things considered, I would prefer neither of those things. A workplace friendship can begin to foster emotional closeness and physical attraction that might lead to a Saturday night hangout. It's a slippery slope. Obviously the trend now is for both members of a couple to insist on having friends of the opposite sex. That's fine for them. People who find that importa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:25 AM
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I think that relationships are more stable when both members of the relationship have no private contact with people of the opposite sex. I'm sure plenty of secure people get cheated on every day. How many times do you see posts on r/relationships about someone uneasy with their gf's male "friend," only to find out that she was cheating the whole time?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:16 AM
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I feel like you're imagining me sitting around worrying about it, though. That's the point of engineering the situation like that, so no worrying is necessary. What is it that the red pillers like to say? "Trust but verify."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 11:57 PM
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I hope one day you do! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 11:55 PM
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Well, I started dating my husband when I was 21, so my standards didn't have time to change. I picked him because he was the most attractive man I've ever met, and he was incredibly nice to me. I still value those things! I'll say that we have really "grown up" together, though. When I met him he was kind of a hoodlum, and I was kind of a hippie wild child. We've both become more domestic as we've gotten older together, and I really dig it!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 11:52 PM
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Aw, shucks!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 09:50 PM
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The OP has marked this "Q4Men," all top-level comments should be by men; all other commenters may reply under the AutoMod comment thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 10:30 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 10:29 AM
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The OP has marked this "Q4Women," all top-level comments should be by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 10:23 AM
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Obviously I'm not a fascist dictator in real life, but considering the OP was literally "what changes would you make to Western society if you had ultimate power," I find it very silly that people are going "but freedom!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:58 AM
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Then it is a good thing no one is electing me God-emperor of the world any time soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:31 AM
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Consider this your warning, do not personally attack other users.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:09 AM
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Do not make posts witch hunting other users, or you will be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 05:06 AM
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I'll let the law define what rape is. I think it's unethical to lie to get sexual consent, but it's only rape if it meets the legal requirements for rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 01:01 AM
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i thought y’all say sex is nothing special You seem to be under the impression that I'm a libfem, with the way you keep replying to my comments. I believe sex is incredibly special and should only be had within the context of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 10:39 PM
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Well yes, obviously that's bullshit and there is distinct male and female nature. Probably not gonna go tell my feminist friends that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 10:22 PM
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Probably not, but here's the thing: it's always going to be anecdotes vs. anecdotes. The blues will disagree that most men deal with X or that most women are like Y, and they'll still argue. But no one is forced to engage with low-effort arguments, or posters who argue in bad faith. There are a handful of users that I don't debate with because experience has proved that it's unproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 10:02 PM
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No, because that's not what that means. Men and women both serve God and we're of equal worth in his sight. It's a matter of role, not worth. Wives submit to their husbands, not to "men," because it's the roles that God has deemed good for humanity. Christ himself submitted to God the Father, and that did not make him lesser; he remained God.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 01:19 AM
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God created Adam and Eve, and his design for humanity was that Adam would be the leader of his wife. There is nothing more natural than Biblical patriarchy. Alternate relationship models are deviations and the result of original sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 01:03 AM
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No one, that I'm aware of, on PPD, TBP or otherwise, disputes that men and women each have, a nature. Which is what AWALT is. This is exactly what most blues believe. Blank slate theory. They believe that the gender differences between the sexes are social constructs, not a result of innate nature. This is the first big difference between red and blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 12:10 AM
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Reminder to all commenters: The OP has flaired this post "CMV." All top-level comments should attempt to challenge OP's view.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:54 PM
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The OP has flaired this post "CMV." All top-level comments should attempt to challenge OP's view.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:53 PM
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The OP has flaired this post "CMV." All top-level comments should attempt to challenge OP's view.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:53 PM
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The OP has flaired this post "CMV." All top-level comments should attempt to challenge OP's view.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:52 PM
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The OP has flaired this post "CMV." All top-level comments should attempt to challenge OP's view.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:51 PM
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Read the book Iron John by Robert Bly. OMG, I knew I liked you for a reason! I love Robert Bly. I read Iron John in college and loved it. You are the first person I've met who has even heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:50 PM
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The OP has flaired this post "CMV." All top-level comments should attempt to challenge OP's view.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:48 PM
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The OP has flaired this post "CMV." All top-level comments should attempt to challenge OP's view.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:47 PM
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Edit out the editorializing personal attacks, and I will reapprove this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:39 PM
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I have removed several of your comments today for circlejerking and personal attacks. Please consider this your warning, any further infractions will result in a temp ban. And this should go without saying, but do not follow other users around harassing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:32 PM
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No race-baiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:24 PM
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Do not circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:23 PM
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PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill. Your post has been removed because it does not fit topically into PPD. I see that you linked a Jordan Peterson interview about wage gaps, but the gender issues in the video are hardly discussed. PPD is not a good place to discuss grad school enrollment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:18 PM
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As other people have pointed out, people bring up "not everyone is like that" in response to generalizations. Example: RP men tend to make arguments such as "Marriage is always bad for men." I do not agree that marriage is always or even usually bad for men, so I will respond with some form of "Not all marriage is like that." It's the nature of the topics we discuss, and the people here. We discuss generalizations, (which is fine, because how else are you going to talk about trends?) but not eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:00 PM
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Please don't circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 08:11 AM
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Ouchhh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 05:29 AM
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My mom was always disappointed that I didn't marry a richer man. She's gotten over it, but man did she hound me about it for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 05:09 AM
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ITT: Literally every man misreading "women don't perceive sex as love" as "women should all deadbedroom their man"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 04:55 AM
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Well this is what the OP is talking about. Whether or not women tend to perceive love or feel loved via sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 02:46 AM
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I think sex is vulnerable for women, in a way that men will never really understand. Letting someone put a part of their body literally on the inside of your body takes a certain amount of trust. I don't think sticking a dick into something prompts the same feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 12:07 AM
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I'm most certainly not a perfect angel, but I do try to be the best wife I can be. Which doesn't include manipulation, because it's not nice to manipulate people. And I was right, you're not really interested in debating in the sense that you're willing to consider alternate truths or viewpoints to your own. That said, here's a good reason to not use sex as a bargaining chip that even you might agree with: Because attractive men can get it elsewhere. Why would I want to breed discontent in my at…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 12:04 AM
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You can't tell me that you're a perfect pure little angel who never utilizes this one ace up your sleeve when your partner does something that makes you mad. It is surely a tool. I can tell you that I don't think women "using sex as a tool" is as common as you think it is. I'll tell you that I've never done that, and you will tell me A) that I am lying, or B) that I'm an outlier who doesn't count. I think I'm probably in some kind of majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 11:49 PM
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I am realizing why TRP thinks women are incapable of love. It's because they are expecting women to express and receive love in exactly the same way that men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 11:47 PM
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"Not associating sex with love" doesn't mean deadbedrooming your spouse. It means that women mostly experience "love" through affirming words, shared experiences, and nonsexual affection. Sex is a HUGE part of healthy romantic relationships, and I can acknowledge that it's what makes men feel loved. It is not what makes women feel loved, however. I fail to see how this is a problem. Married couples still ought to have plenty of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 09:40 PM
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I can't quite believe this has been made as part of an honest comment.... Oh no, I mean that. To be fair, I used an extreme example, and I'm aware that MOST men are not out fucking goats. Still, men will fuck ugly women and fat women, women they barely know and never want to see again. Knowing that, it's hard to fathom how a man having sex with you would in any way mean that he loves you. It's no wonder men consider sex to be a major part of love. Well hold up there. I agree that sex is a major,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 09:32 PM
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I think it's hard to understand male nature and still associate sex with love. Men will literally fuck farm animals if that's the only thing around. I know he doesn't love that goat and want to wife it up. I definitely associate loving actions and words with love. Sex is part of a loving relationship, but sex doesn't show love in today's day and age. People are too free with it for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 09:15 PM
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Removed. PPD is a place for general discussion and debate, not personal advice. You may want to try r/ppdPersonalAdvice or r/relationships for advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 07:49 PM
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Art school is as slutty as it is because the gender ratios are WAY more female than male (we can also add in permissive environment and heavy emphasis on "cool"/boho values). So if you took ONE man from an engineering school and put him into an art school, yes it's possible that he'd have more sex in a predominantly-female environment. If you put ALL the men and women from an engineering school in an art school, you would even out the ratios and end up with a "normal college experience." Althoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 06:29 PM
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Removed for incivility. I can see that the other poster insulted you first, but in the future please just report rule-breaking rather than retaliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 05:54 PM
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You seriously overestimate how much I enjoy being an unpaid internet janitor, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 05:53 PM
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I mean, I can't stop you from going and insulting him on TRP. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 05:47 PM
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This content is probably better-suited to r/TRP or one of the related red pill subreddits. There isn't anything here for people to debate or discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 05:43 PM
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Your post has been removed. This has nothing to do with gender relations, sexual strategy, or pillsphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 04:45 PM
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Well now I'm thinking of cacti.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 10:31 AM
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Do you invest your emotions and efforts towards the optimal but unlikely win-win outcome, or do you protect yourself first? Ideally you find a partner who is also oriented toward a win-win strategy, and then give 100% to that person while they do the same for you. I think there are degrees of trust that are earned along the way, and this is for the sake of self-preservation. Obviously it makes no sense to whole-heartedly trust a stranger. As you get to know a person, you figure out if they are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 11:27 PM
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Well yes, there are assholes everywhere, but you don't need to spend extended amounts of time with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 10:56 PM
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The fact that you're considering breaking up with him for this, to the point that you're willing to write a long post seeking advice on the internet-- suggests to me that you're not completely committed to him. I don't suggest that you marry him and take on his debt if it isn't a "hell yes" for you. If he was worth that sacrifice to you, I think you wouldn't have these reservations.
/r/RedPillWomen18/01/18 09:15 PM
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If this is about the Stormy Daniels thing, no one is claiming that's sexual assault. He allegedly had an affair with her, which yes I think is immoral, but that's hardly assault. It would be awesome if Trump resigned because he's a crappy president. But I don't think cheating on your wife necessitates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 06:20 AM
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But it's not because they are "neurotypical" it's because you all just have a lower baseline level of bravery. You aren't willing to fight to the death over your bodily autonomy, or carry firearms, or do anything to protect yourself. What you just described is a neurotypical female brain. Or do you think that women are just defective men? Women have female brains with female responses to threats wired in. You know what you call a woman who's willing to fight to the death with a man? Dead. At no …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 03:36 AM
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Homeless: cmon man, i know you do. Please Me: no. Fuck off Women are not going to tell stranger men to "fuck off," especially not homeless strangers who are of questionable mental state. You can probably fight that homeless man; a woman cannot, and she knows it. How the conversation would go for most women: -Can I get a dollar? -No, sorry! I don't have cash -C'mon lady, I know you do. Please. -Sorry! (as she walks quickly away from him without making eye contact)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 03:23 AM
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I didn't get that impression, because most of the examples you gave seem to connect more to "life skills" and day-to-day interactions, rather than the ability to assert yourself and say no to unwanted sexual advances. But in general, re: your post, I think there's room for nuance. Praising girls for looking pretty can go hand in hand with praising them for being smart. They can play in the dirt and wear nice dresses, but maybe not at the same time. I think girls can be socialized as girls, and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 09:01 PM
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Do you usually surround yourself with those kinds of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 08:42 PM
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I agree with this so much. I'm not sure what kind of daily interactions people are having where they need to constantly fight to be treated well. Cooperation is a beautiful thing! I treat people nice and take care of them; they treat me nice and take care of me. Yay, everyone wins and no one had to fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 08:28 AM
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Revenge fantasies? God only knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 12:15 AM
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I converted to Christianity last year, after over a decade spent as an atheist. Trust me, I haven't been living in since kind of religious bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 07:41 PM
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please explain the social hierarchy and how it changes with age . like i think some things would be more important in high school than when you're older and working I think it helps if you imagine it in terms of "respectability" rather than the high school Mean Girls scene I suspect you might be envisioning. Married/unmarried people tend to stick to their own "kind," but by late-20s, most everyone in your peer group is married and starting to have kids. When the "single group" dries up (say, ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:32 AM
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I agree with your assessment. The idea of the hostess having social power is spot on and super insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:26 AM
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Well, I think it would be disrespectful to my husband to tell friends about what we get up to in bed. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't appreciate that. It has nothing to do with restrictive religious sects and everything to do with not airing your partner's laundry in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:25 PM
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Uh, not for discussing our respective sex lives, that's for sure. I think talking about sex stops being normal after college.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:13 PM
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Uh. My husband is often heavily bearded, and it doesn't seem to hamper kissing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:09 PM
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+1 for the saline sinus rinse these folks are talking about. They're AMAZING.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:07 PM
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That would be a really weird thing to ask people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:05 PM
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People will pretend to be supportive to a divorcée's face, but you should hear the shit they'll say behind her back. It's a cross between pity and disdain. My cousin's husband cheated on her with an underage girl, which led to their divorce-- her reputation still hasn't recovered and it's been almost ten years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:14 AM
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I think it depends on age. I would actually say that marrying a loser gets you more status. Past mid-30s and definitely after 40, women just feel bad for single women. Single can look cute and fun and free in your 20s, but it eventually just gets kind of sad. Everyone has that one spinster aunt in her 50s who never married, and no one envies her at the family reunions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 09:10 AM
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You told me your opinion on the way things should be, which I can appreciate. That said, the fact that you think they're arbitrary bullshit doesn't change the nature of reality. The status quo is that marriage grants legitimacy and social proof to a relationship. You can dislike it all you want, but that doesn't make my points any less relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:19 AM
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so you could shorten what you've written to say that women are, or tend to be more socially or societally oriented with their thoughts and actions. I could, but then I wouldn't get to go nuts with the bolded bullet points.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:17 AM
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Removed for race-baiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:37 PM
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Please stop spamming PPD with advertisements for "women's-only" subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:34 PM
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Do not make personal attacks. Please consider this a warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:26 PM
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NEVER!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:05 PM
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Security/permanence. Marriage won't guarantee that your SO won't leave you, but it is much harder and more painful to divorce than it is to break up. Marriage disincentivises your SO from leaving. This is important since women's most important commodities in the SMP are their youth and beauty. Most women want a "guarantee" before spending a significant amount of these on a man. Legitimacy. People on PPD tend to deny this, but LTRs are not socially treated the same way that marriages are. Marriag…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 04:48 PM
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Where'd you get banned from? RPW?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 03:09 AM
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Apparently nothing, because it hurts men's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 11:48 PM
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Because for the random women to ask men to care about her stupid crap and then pulling "why the hell should women care" on mens stupid crap is pretty hypocritical and most people like to avoid appearing hypocritical. When women write bullshit op-ed pieces on sites like Jezebel, do you interpret that as her asking you personally to care?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 11:15 PM
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We do it’s called PPD 🤫 (Just kidding, that would turn to crap too) ....oh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 09:26 PM
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A blue pill guy, some guy marching in the anti Trump march, who wears a pussy hat, who doesn't lift, and who majored in gender studies.. he'll have an easier time attracting high quality women? If he's hot, sure. Physical attractiveness is still king and "doesn't lift" =/= unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 09:25 PM
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This post is flaired Q4W. All top-level comments should be written by women; all other comments belong under the Automod comment thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 09:03 PM
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Good comment, but this post is marked Q4Women, and all top-level comments should be by women. You're welcome to repost this under the Automod comment thread!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 08:55 PM
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We need a subreddit for homeless RPers adrift in the sea of online stupidity. (Just kidding, that would turn to crap too)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 08:04 PM
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why do men who have no intent to marry a woman still expect a woman to have sex and commit to them for life, if what she has to lose by being with him longterm, is her equilivent to him losing his money? Because there are some women who will do it. I think it's remarkably stupid to sign up to be a "perma-girlfriend" and give up your best years to someone who could easily trade in for a younger model-- but there are women who do it. Some men want that because they see it as the best possible deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 08:03 PM
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So he should be banned for life from every having any position in the church? Probably. He should absolutely be forgiven, but forgiveness doesn't mean that consequences of actions magically disappear. I don't think that someone who's misused his pastoral position and had sexual relations with a congregant is fit to lead. There are many seminary graduates looking for jobs in ministry. It's smarter for churches to choose men without this particular fellow's track record.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 02:35 AM
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In the future, please appeal mod decisions you do not agree with through modmail.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:52 AM
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Yes, I agree. I think the OP is framing the post wrong, as this person likely would have been removed from his position of Church authority whether or not the act was consensual or assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:49 PM
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Seeking premarital sex is inappropriate behavior for a pastor, and it is reason enough for him to be removed from his post at the time, even if it was consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:46 PM
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The case in Tennesseee involves a teaching pastor (not full pastor) at a Memphis, Tennessee church who committed some sexual misconduct 20 years ago. Many are calling for his resignation due to what he did 20 years ago. I absolutely agree that he should be removed from his position of authority within the church. The issue here isn't whether or not what he did was sexual assault. I would have the same response for you if you told me that he had consensual sex with the girl 20 years ago. The fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:42 PM
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The OP has flaired this post CMV. All top level comments should attempt to change the OP's view.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:36 PM
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Removed for the following reason: Bad starting point for discussion. Any post that's unlikely to generate useful, civil discourse. This is the overarching theme of this subreddit and the most common reason that articles get removed. While I appreciate that you flaired your post CMV and engaged with respondents, it's clear from your replies that you're seeking personal advice tailored to your own situation. PPD is a place for discussing sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/T…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:34 PM
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Removed for low effort. An argument about mentally ill women being interesting or not isn't particularly relevant to PPD. Please flesh out your argument and make a better connection to: sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:29 PM
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OP, can you please edit your post to include a brief summary of the linked post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:01 PM
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Do not circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 10:56 PM
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Do not circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 10:51 PM
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So do you think a good solution is to kick it down faster?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 12:50 AM
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I've had plenty of sex, but I'm not an idiot. Contraceptives, barrier methods, and STD testing exist for a reason. "My body made me do it" is a poor excuse for anything, and I have 0 sympathy for people who made bad decisions because they lacked willpower or common sense. This is an honest question and in no way meant as a "gotcha": Do you also have sympathy for people who are overweight and obese? They're also following their body's natural drives without restraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 12:48 AM
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So that sounds like poor life choices, not someone being forced into marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 12:44 AM
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Why did lots of people knock up their girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 12:41 AM
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Statistics have no bearing on the marriage of individuals. They describe trends, but they are useless for predicting the success or failure of specific marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 12:16 AM
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Actually, people in higher income brackets and people with more education are more likely to be married. Their rates of divorce are also significantly lower. And of never-married adults, a slight majority say that they want to be married someday and cite financial instability as a reason they are not yet married. Marriage is not low class, cohabitation and having bastard children is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 11:36 PM
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Since we're talking about marriage, you might want to change that analogy to top shelf liquor and cocaine. Meth is a little low class.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 11:26 PM
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No, this idea is absolutely absurd. I'm actually having a hard time formulating a proper response, because that's how ridiculous the idea is. Banning marriage is anti-civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 11:16 PM
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Imo women are largely selecting for factors other than sexual satisfaction Sounds like a recipe for a deadbedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:19 AM
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Sounds like the kind of people who have a bridge to sell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:06 AM
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those who recognize the problematic aspects but still want to explore their dynamic and are into the idea I don't think I can even call their potential relationship problematic. I mean yes it probably would be if it was 2017 in the US and mindrape was possible. But... context. Given who they are and the world they live in, it's... complicated but fine, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:05 AM
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Who cares? If you don't eat women out, good luck getting repeat customers to your bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 06:30 AM
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I mean I guess if she sits on his face and then bends down, it could be possible.... but why tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 06:28 AM
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N64 and alcohol, THEN sex... and maybe then more N64.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:17 AM
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You might have better luck finding specific advice for this on r/ppdPersonalAdvice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 04:17 AM
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There is a lot of fanfiction out there about this, just saying xD
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 03:26 AM
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Whatever, I'm still just mad that Kylo Ren and Rey didn't get together.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 02:57 AM
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50% seems high.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:58 AM
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In general I think most humans are happiest in relationships, but this may be solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:50 AM
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I think it depends on the specific person. Some women are happy being single. Some women are happiest in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:46 AM
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They want a woman who isn't a career woman, who they also do not have to financially support in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 10:11 PM
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But modern men are disgusted by duty sex, so nothing doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 09:46 PM
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Good answer!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 09:20 PM
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Well. Because this is PPD and we generally judge and shame people for every possible thing under the sun. A better question would be, why should "N-count judgers" be exempt?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 09:14 PM
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You're barking up the wrong tree assuming that I believe in "equality" in the feminist sense. Men and women have different roles in relationships. It has never been a woman's place to provide monetarily for her husband (or in this case, fiance).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 02:11 AM
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Here is a list of 1,250 of the books you described. There is a book for just about any fetish or idea you could imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:13 PM
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I actually do check the context for every reported comment to see if the personal attacks are the result of a slapfight between two users (they usually are). That said, people reporting rule-breaking comments is immensely helpful to us, and therefore to the subreddit itself. It's a big, active subreddit and there are few mods. We just won't see most infractions unless they're brought to our attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 07:26 AM
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I hear we can spend them on 72 virgins if we collect enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 07:19 AM
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What was his gift from you? I did not give him an engagement gift because there is no such tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 04:40 AM
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I didn't have an engagement ring for the first year of our engagement, and it was fine. Eventually he gave me a beautiful diamond ring that his mom bought for me as an engagement ring. At no point in all of this did I think he was "cheap." It would be disingenuous of me to say that I don't enjoy having a big diamond ring. Obviously it's nice to have nice things. But honestly the nicest part of having rings is that other people can see that I'm married. I'm proud to be his wife, and as an added b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 02:49 AM
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I never found that to be true. I notice that red pillers make claims along these lines as a kind of just world revenge fantasy (picky women and sluts will not be able to find high quality men to settled down with as a result of their misdeeds). Most women have no problem finding high quality men to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 08:27 PM
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OP, could you please make it clear that you're asking about this: Nearly all the responses on askTRP were against me paying for the meal or anything on a date. What say you people here? As it stands now, your post looks like you're asking for personal advice, which would be better suited for r/ppdPersonalAdvice. I suggest cutting out your copy-pasted text and instead just linking to the content and providing a summary. Let me know once you've made changes and I will reapprove your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:31 PM
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Settling for a man that she is attracted to "in a different way" is not considered a "cure" That's not the cure. The cure for alpha widowhood is finding a man who is just as good or better than the last one, who she is more attracted to. Considering the true abundance that women have, this is very likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:20 PM
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I mean moral by Judeo-Christian standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 04:31 AM
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I almost never use social media, and I have never done online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 04:24 AM
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Why are you sleeping with men who have terrible attitudes and don't want to get you off or who have poor attitudes? The gamble is huge if you don't get to know the guy before sleeping with him. Don't be surprised if he brings the ego and dgaf attitude into the bedroom. Because some men can act completely normal, caring, and considerate, until it comes to sex. Obviously you don't continue to sleep with people who are selfish in bed; if you do, at that point you're doing it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 05:58 AM
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Are most men egotistical about sex? From my (statistically insignificant) sample size, I'd say about 40% of men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 11:38 PM
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Ego. The only truly horrible sex I've had was when men were unwilling to adapt to suggestions (flat-out ignoring what you want despite repeated requests), OR getting angry and offended about feedback. Inexperience can be remedied, but you can't fix a bad attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 11:31 PM
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I've never seen what you're describing. While people don't go into sexual encounters hoping for bad sex, I think most women acknowledge that it's a possible outcome. Consenting to sex is consenting to sex, whether it ends up being enjoyable or not. Most men are bad in bed. Having sex with someone for the first time is mostly hoping for the best, but half expecting the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 11:26 PM
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Despite what the internet says, most women don't cry "rape" when they have bad sex. I think it's safe to say that every sexually active woman alive has experienced bad sex. You either A) work with the person and practice to make it better over time, or B) stop having sex with them and find someone else. and a woman having bad sex isn't a man's fault. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. If it's a man who has an ego so big that he can't take suggestions/direction without getting offended, then I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 11:21 PM
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The only scenario in which I think it would be trickery, is if he lied about being interested in a LTR with her; in which case, he would be aware that it's casual sex but she would think it was something more. Incidentally, this is a good case for saving sex until marriage, to avoid being duped like this. Assuming he didn't make false promises to her, then I agree she wasn't tricked and made the decision on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 10:25 PM
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I think people lose attraction due to changes (in themselves and/or in their partners). It's a cause and effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 09:13 PM
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Because you don't want to see him happy because his behavior is disgusting or off putting I think most women are indifferent. They don't want to date him, but they're fine with him dating someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 08:54 PM
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I love Esther Perel.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 08:39 PM
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Well, advice from women isn't really going to help most men anyway. Red pillers tend to say that they've heard blue pill advice and found it trite and unhelpful. I don't think anyone objects to the things that you listed: going to the gym, dressing better, developing hobbies, being assertive, and spending time with friends. Those sound like great ideas, but they aren't red pill exclusive. The things non-reds tend to have issue with are usually ideas like active dread, spinning plates, cheating, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 08:56 AM
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I'm attempting to explain a phenomenon that we all acknowledge happens (or else why would there be so many unhappy men on MRP and r/DeadBedrooms). In no way am I excusing the resulting behavior. Yes, in an ideal world no one would grow lazy or grow apart from their partners. Some of us don't, and have happy marriages. I'm trying to suss out the reason that sex dries up in the problem marriages, because I think the root cause is not intentional withholding like some people claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 08:47 AM
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Are you trying to suggest that guys should just be ok with it because there might be less bad faith than they think? No, not at all. I think both people within a marriage should meet each other's sexual needs to the best of their ability, and I think it's perfectly reasonable for men to be upset if that isn't happening for them. I made this post because I'm interested in accurate theories, and the idea of premeditated trickery as a reason for dead bedrooms rang false.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 08:33 AM
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He for real looks like a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 06:15 AM
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I don't view her as obnoxious. Either you know her more intimately under another account (my first assumption) or it's general purge-hostility or something else. The only perception i've had of her lately is that she is someone who is brightly, happily in love. That she's in love with her husband is doubly fantastic, in my opinion. People love to shit on happy people, possibly because they're envious of that happiness. We can talk about "being in love" being a perceived ego-state in others, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 05:49 AM
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Yup. But bothering people about that tends to just alienate them, especially if they're basically strangers. He still sounds like a cool person despite that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 05:47 AM
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Looks are very important. If I didn't find a man very attractive, I wouldn't have considered him for a relationship. It's not the only factor, but it's the first criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:39 PM
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Most people's needs and wants aren't that arcane. I take care of my husband by cooking him good food, giving him affection and lots of sex, respecting him, listening when he talks, supporting him in his goals, and encouraging him to do the things he wants to do. It's really not rocket science. If I'm doing something wrong or he needed something different, he would tell me. After being with someone for a long time, you know what kind of person they are and what they need and want in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:13 PM
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You sound like a cool dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 09:19 AM
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Well. My best bet is probably going to be indoctrinating youth. I'm working on it!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:48 AM
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This post has been removed. You may want to repost on /r/ppdPersonalAdvice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:45 AM
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It's against my religion. I think people should only have sex in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:42 AM
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It works fine if both people are doing it. They look out for your best interest, and you look out for theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:18 AM
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I mean, I guess both people could also be selfish dicks. But then that's no fun for anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:44 AM
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A marriage where both people put their spouse's needs, wants, and happiness before their own. They may have different roles within the marriage, but they respect each other and believe that they both have equal intrinsic worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:41 AM
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Husband adopts "happy wife, happy life". Wife adopts "happy husband, happy life". I think this is the best possible outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 05:33 AM
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I think marrying as teenagers is a bit too young, but I am in favor of young marriage (say, around 21).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:38 AM
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Considering I began dating my husband 5 years before I converted to Christianity, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:20 AM
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Neat! I don't bump into many Christians around here. Have you checked out /r/RPChristians ? I don't agree with all of their views, but it's an interesting little pocket of intersecting Christianity and red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:17 AM
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Yeah, that was the result of an odd reading bender. I got SUPER enamored of certain radfem ideas for about two weeks, mostly because I align with their negative views on transpeople. Unfortunately that (and biological mental differences between the sexes) was about all I could agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:17 AM
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Red: Humans aren't blank slates. There are mental and physical biological differences between the sexes. Passive dread is beneficial, also intuitive and present in most relationships Pro- male led, tradcon relationships Physical attraction is king Blue: Heavily pro-marriage Most women are competent adults, not children or "the oldest teenager in the house" Having a nonconventional relationship dynamic isn't necessary bad and doesn't mean you're doomed to fail Men should be self-sacrificial, givi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 04:14 AM
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That's a great analogy, and I suppose I'd have to think about it. From a purely practical standpoint, there's some appeal in harm reduction. Helping the meat eaters get their sex from ethical sources. I don't think I can help people figure out how to have premarital sex in good conscience, though. I could encourage them not to hurt others while they seek casual sex, but giving advice or creating a guide would be going too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 03:59 AM
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Your post was removed for bad faith. If you would like to appeal, please do so in modmail.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 03:53 AM
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Removed for the following reason: Leading Questions. Posts that ask a specific group why they think/do X when it has not been established that said group believes X. Examples include: “If redpillers are all rapists, why are they so concerned with self-improvement?” and “If bluepillers are SJW feminazis, why don't they think all PIV sex is rape?” This includes lesser leading questions, such as “Why do X believe Y?”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 03:46 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:27 PM
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None of the comments are able to answer the question. It's not an inability to answer the question. The question assumes that casual sex is an acceptable goal to have, and so I disagree with the basis of the question. I think people shouldn't be having casual sex, so it wouldn't be in my agenda's favor to provide an alternative to PUA or TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:25 PM
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Right? Looking at you, u/purgingyourface
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:15 PM
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So do you consider all the women at RPW blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:33 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:33 PM
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Do you have the idea that I have or want an egalitarian marriage? I believe that wives need to submit to their husbands as the Church does to Christ. The Bible is clear that men are called to lead their households.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:46 PM
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That was fun! Thought we got some good discussion out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:11 PM
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what shame Nah, not really. My husband is way better than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:10 PM
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I'm just waiting for hyperrreal to pull the plug on it. It's supposed to end on January 2nd, but I'm not sure what time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:32 PM
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It's New Year's Purge ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:25 PM
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Christian influence
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:18 PM
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Omg the gay mafia does exist!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:18 PM
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I guess I'm red-ish. Voted for Hillary, ayyyy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:17 PM
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Some people are just really good at socializing. My dad is one of those. Every time we go out, he bumps into at least 3 friends and makes at least 2 more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:16 PM
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Well. I'm not sure if I'm shallower than most women, or just more honest about it. I guess we can hope it's the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:13 PM
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Good wow or bad wow?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:07 PM
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Ah, I got you. There aren't many of those in my church. The singles tend to be still in middle/high school still. I think there's one single adult man, but the rest of the folks my age are all young couples and families.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:06 PM
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It's purge week, I think I'm allowed a self-indulgent shitpost if I want, lol. If you want my real reasoning for this, The whole OP is basically based on "I think relationships without marriage are not good enough, because... reasons..." It's that marriage is a holy institution, ordained by God. Human sexuality was designed for use within marriage. Aside from that, I also think that marriage is a blessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:05 PM
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They all appear to be happily married, but admittedly I don't know what goes on in the privacy of their own homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:01 PM
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I mean don't get me wrong, I can recognize it as aberrant social behavior, and I wondered if he was a bit crazy. But he was so attractive that I didn't run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:00 PM
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Sounds like he just didn't wanna rush it. Could be. That said, my husband told me that he loved me on our first date and told me that I was going to be his forever a few months in. I've wanted to find my forever-partner since I started dating at 15. I'm not the kind of person who jives well with someone who "doesn't want to rush it" for two years.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:54 PM
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He talked about likely getting married someday; I just didn't feature in his plans. Add to this the fact that he never said "I love you," and you can see how I'd get the impression that he just wasn't that into me. I was just convenient, and the sex was good. When I broke up with him he tried to claim that he adored me, that I had no idea what his plans for "our" future was. It was tempting, I'll say that. But it was too little too late. I didn't believe him, and if what he said was true, I didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:46 PM
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I would have, if he'd wanted that. He didn't want to marry at all though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:39 PM
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Does it ever happen where both parties equally love each other? Just curious. My husband is the first person I've met where I'd say that we love each other equally. We're both really over the top and intense with our love for each other. It's really nice to feel equally matched.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:26 PM
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Yes, my grandparents are devout Christians and I credit that to the longevity of their marriage in many ways. Fear of God is an excellent reason to stay married
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:22 PM
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I considered it, but decided that was probably crap. We were wrong for each other in many ways, but the biggest issue came down to: I wanted to marry him, but he didn't want to marry me. So it's possible that he actually did love me, but in the end I decided that it didn't really matter. He was never going to give me what I wanted (lifelong commitment), love or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:18 PM
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I can't claim to know that, because I've never met them or their wives. I would doubt that they all vetted for women who don't believe in divorce, because I find that's rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:11 PM
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What age did you marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:08 PM
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Check out radical feminism. It definitely is not inclusive of men. You might find it refreshing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:20 AM
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Pretty much this. The men I interact with on a regular basis are good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:19 AM
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Well, you're right. In a certain sense, a prenup is planning to fail. I'm 99% certain that my husband doesn't know what a prenup is, but I know he would have been very offended if I'd explained and then suggested one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 10:17 AM
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if a guy and his girlfriend want to move in together and eventually have a kid, it's completely normal and no one will look down on them or think it's weird. they don't need to be married to do that. This is heavily dependent on the people you're surrounded by. My family and peers would have a fit if I'd had a child out of wedlock, and cohabitation is frowned upon as well. Having children outside of marriage is incredibly low class.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 09:25 AM
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Happy new year!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:38 AM
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Marriage has existed since Adam and Eve were created. It's God's design for human sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:35 AM
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What's wrong with keeping one foot out of the door just in case? Nothing, if you aren't sure you want to spend the rest of your life with someone. But you asked what the difference is between a committed LTR and marriage, and I think we've just found one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:23 AM
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I like Christian rap. Lecrae is my jam. They probably think I'm rollin, I'm just high on the Spirit, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:14 AM
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Well. It just makes me think of clowns. And I like clowns, so I'm okay with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 08:06 AM
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Happy new year!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:56 AM
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It's cute that you're calling me stupid when you seem to be incapable of basic reading skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:48 AM
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At some stage in the near future your man won't want to see your ugly face and body and will hope for less natural light. Because you said this. Considering we were talking about sex with the lights off, and you talked about men not wanting to see their wives' bodies, I think it makes perfect sense to think that you were talking about sex in the darkness. Why would you use the word "gay" to describe anything that doesn't fit your fucked up cookie cutter view of the world? Because heterosexual me…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:37 AM
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Been in one of those. What happened was I stuck it out for 2 years, in which I was mostly very sad, until I finally realized I was never going to get what I want and broke up with him. And then he stalked me for a couple years. Boy, that was fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:25 AM
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I didn't pull the gay card on you. You're strangely assuming that I called YOU gay as an insult. I'm saying that a man who'd rather look into pitch black darkness, rather than see a naked woman's body while they fuck-- that sounds like you are describing a gay man to me. I have 0 issue with the idea of married couples having sex after putting the kids to bed. I think it's really strange that you're suggesting that lights-on sex suddenly ends after children are born.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:17 AM
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No, gays don't scare me. Try harder, I lived in San Francisco with naked dudes running around the Castro. I'm saying that the idea of a man not wanting to see a naked woman's body, sounds like a closeted homosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:14 AM
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Being super productive and getting lots of shit done! WOOHOO!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:12 AM
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At some stage in the near future your man won't want to see your ugly face and body and will hope for less natural light. Sounds pretty gay
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:10 AM
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They say to not play games, but the "games" work. Teasing and being mean works for me :/ Watch what they do, not what they say. Men like a little chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:59 AM
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Oh, interesting. Can I ask what country you're from? I've even heard of girls mentioning "starter marriages" Okay, this is a gross mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:58 AM
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To me, the commitment is in the fact that it's a promise made to God and your spouse. I understand that this isn't a compelling reason to atheists, but the idea of breaking a vow to God is terrifying to me. A regular relationship just doesn't have that weight. God isn't invested in the success of my relationship with a boyfriend like he is with my marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:52 AM
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On the flip side, if two people already consider themselves married and feel firm in their commitment, then why not get married? ime, there is usually some amount of hedging their bets there. Some amount of uncertainty, of wanting to keep one foot out the door just in case.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:47 AM
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Marriage is not a commitment though. Marriage is a commitment made before God and your community, for the religious among us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:43 AM
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I don't think you can accurately compare the success or failure of a marriage with a coin toss. That implies that the outcome of the marriage is random, when in reality the outcome depends on the actions of both spouses. Is the risk/reward worth it? For most men, the answer is no. Sex outside of marriage is immoral, and most people would not be happy living celibate lives. So that said, I think marriage is especially worth it to men (who tend to have higher sex drives). Would you say that a fami…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:40 AM
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Obviously happiness is better. But if the choices are an unhappy marriage, or divorce, I think sticking out an unhappy marriage is a more moral option.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:37 AM
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What’s the point of a legally binding contract though? That’s one of the main issues I see brought up. Well. I think sex outside of marriage is immoral, so that is probably the biggest reason I see for people to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:35 AM
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I see the gay mafia has finally taken over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:23 AM
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which is very interesting since in the present day it has absolutely nothing to do with the church in anything but a nominal basis I think that depends which circles you run in. I see marriage as a holy covenant between myself, God, and my husband. We had a religious ceremony, and I believe that God is invested in the success of my marriage (and all marriages). Religion is heavily involved in marriage, because divorce means breaking a solemn vow to God--not just to your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 06:20 AM
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I'll pray for you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:57 AM
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who repeatedly swear they're in it for life through thick and thin -- but who then subsequently change their mind (usually when what seems like a better option presents itself). I think a person's view on divorce tends to be more telling than their desire to marry. If you'd asked these women before marriage, would they have said that it's fine to divorce due to unhappiness? People tend to be shocked and appalled when I say that I don't think unhappiness is a reason to divorce. The number of peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:49 AM
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Loyalty to stay in a marriage you don't want comes from a place of fear. I suppose it depends on your values. I think divorcing due to not wanting the marriage anymore is a shame. Unhappiness is bearable; it's sticking to your vows through the "for worse" of "for better or for worse."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:46 AM
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The pussy cabal is obviously out to get him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:44 AM
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Yes, you've noticed my flair, right? I'm obviously religious. I would have thought you'd object to "holy" not "believe" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:42 AM
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It's easy to say marry a woman who wants to get married, but you aren't going up to the altar with someone who isn't choosing to be there. Every person assumes the person they are marrying wants to be married. That's not what I'm saying, though. Of course everyone who gets married (presumably) wants to get married. I think the person's views on divorce are much more telling. Do they think it's okay to get divorced if they're unhappy? To me, that's keeping divorce as an option in your back pocket…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:42 AM
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Yes, I do. Because I think it's a matter of character, not circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:39 AM
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BUT I don't think length of time is really the accomplishment once you're past, say, ten years. I think it's still an accomplishment if you consider lifelong marriage to be the goal. Every year is another milestone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:05 AM
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They go on binge drinking tours to Ibiza and fuck 20 black-out drunk Essex girls in the disco bathroom. Your average prole doesn't even know where Ibiza is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:03 AM
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Because it's nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:59 AM
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Let me hold both your hands in the holes of my sweater
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:59 AM
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Interesting. My older relatives all just told me to go to pre-marital counseling first.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:38 AM
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Well they DO say 'til death do us part... 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:37 AM
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Everyone told me that it would feel different, and I didn't believe them. We were in a similar boat as you, together 5 and a half year before we married. But you're right, it does feel subtly different, in a mildly terrifying yet awesome way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:25 AM
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Oh god, yes. One of my cousins got divorced, because she caught her husband cheating on her with a high school student (he was a teacher, ick). There's all the whispering behind her back, pity mixed with speculation that maybe she wasn't a very good wife and that's why this happened. This was probably 6 years ago, and she is engaged again, but no one has seen her in quite the same way since. WASP families are vicious, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:22 AM
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I believe in marriage as a holy and worthwhile institution, so I'll argue in favor of it. Personally, I don't care what men who are not my husband decide to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:14 AM
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You can load the deck in your favor by marrying someone with pro-marriage values. Although you're right, you can't tell if it really worked until one of you is dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:57 AM
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I think I'm just not sympathetic in the way that you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:56 AM
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No. I think the idea of monetary compensation for anything within a marriage is strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:44 AM
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52 years! Damn! That's so great.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:40 AM
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I would argue that has to do with marital rape becoming illegal fairly recently in the scope of human history-- we have had less time to invent that many things. I am in no way advocating marital rape. Men should not force themselves on their wives, but wives should not deprive their husbands of sex either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:38 AM
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I wouldn't say she doesn't love him-- people can do all sorts of selfish things to people that they love. I agree that wives need to fuck their husbands, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:34 AM
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It's possible to not act like an asshole here, though. I pretty much try to do the opposite of what you're describing, which is let the politeness and positivity that I show to people IRL happen here too. Jesus is Lord of all, including the internet! I'd be a bad witness for him if I let anonymity make me act like an asshole. Edit: Side note, PPD also makes me more grateful for my husband, dad, and the devout Christian men I meet at church. They are definitely some of the good men!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:51 AM
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Good point. Happy New Year's Purge!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:11 AM
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Man, you are so salty about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:00 AM
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Let me tell you something. Most sex is in the dark after kids. Do people actually have sex in the dark in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 01:30 AM
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Are you routinely having sex in the dark? The light doesn't need to be right, it's pretty easy to see ejaculate in a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 12:04 AM
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Yes, if we disregard all the people that TRP doesn't work on, and all the examples of times when it has not worked, then you're right! TRP is iron clad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 12:03 AM
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You realize women see the condom after, right? You can tell if there's jizz in there or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:31 PM
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This is my purge, shit post. For women. And yet, this is what passes as a serious post on a bad day on PPD. Sigh. Feel bad for us mods, y'all. You sleep with a guy you are attracted to. He did it all right. But then afterwards you find out his internet history is full of manosphere, red pill type stuff. Would stop interacting with him, for the same reason I would stop interacting with someone who was into alt-right shit, or someone who thinks it's chill to make fun of homeless people-- I find th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:31 PM
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Why are you reading that as directions to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:21 PM
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Then just look down on the middle class for the pathetic scum that they are. Look down on the proles* ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:14 PM
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There was someone on PPD once who told me that men fake orgasms all the time, and women don't notice. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:08 PM
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Not the person you're replying to, but hormonal IUDs have a 99.7% success rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:06 PM
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PPD doesn't put me in a bad mood. I think it'd be a mistake to take it that seriously. It's just fun to argue, and at this point I've made several friends here so it's fun to chat with them. I don't think PPD is very representative of real life. You see a lot of really extreme views of reality here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 11:03 PM
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Yeah, I can live with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:51 PM
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Man could never be hot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:50 AM
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Dik-dik.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:55 AM
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Do we still wear shoes on our feet, or do they go on our head now? I'm having a hard time keeping up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:41 AM
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No, I'm not triggered. I don't really care to argue against black pill ideology right now. I'm just explaining the reason why it was banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:05 AM
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I have these french fries, and they are too bland. Please work your magic, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:52 AM
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It's banned because it's fucking annoying, along with all the incel shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:50 AM
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How'd you get into this argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:20 AM
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But I'm too drunk to post coherently This is the perfect time to Purge Week tho
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:19 AM
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Man, you are so chill for what I assume is a red-leaning person. It's refreshing on this subreddit!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:08 AM
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Rainbow eucalyptus
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:06 AM
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Well we probably aren't going to see eye to eye on that. Besides the fact that I think it's true, I see Christianity doing a lot of good for people, especially in the ways it makes them more loving and forgiving towards their fellow person. Don't get me wrong, some people take it as an excuse to act like asshats, but in any ideology there are going to be those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:41 AM
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Hey, that's cool!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:35 AM
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Why do you see Christianity as a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:31 AM
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Perhaps I'm just more open-minded than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:29 AM
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I'm still figuring out my beliefs in light of my religion, and while I have significantly more affinity for feminism than red pill, I'm realizing it's not possible to be fully either while being a Christian. Check the flair, it keeps evolving.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:26 AM
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I'm not really sure why I bother you so much. It's funny how the left tries to pretend to be tolerant, but when confronted with someone who you disagree with, you immediately get super nasty. You're a better feminist than me, right? I've never insulted you, hell I've barely said two words to you on this subreddit, and YOU are the one picking a fight with me and using gendered slurs. It's okay for women to have beliefs and opinions as long as they jive with yours, yeah? WOW, what a feminist! Teac…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:19 AM
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It's really interesting that you say that, because that didn't seem to be how you felt that time you tried to get me banned from r/GenderCritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:11 AM
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Go for it, but I don't have to be nice back.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:05 AM
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Step 12. Kick her out of the hous- er, I mean apartment, alphas don't need houses What are you, a pussy? Everyone knows alphas sleep out in the elements. Next you're going to be telling me that you chew gum and not gravel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:02 AM
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Close enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:52 AM
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Excuses, excuses!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:51 AM
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I raise my fancy champagne to you! It counts if we clink through the screen, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:49 AM
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IT DOESN'T MATTER, GOSH.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:48 AM
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TIL that of the 40% of Americans who make new year's resolutions, only 8% of them follow through. BE A STATISTIC.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:44 AM
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Fuck you too, and a happy new year!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:36 AM
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Does a man's job matter to you? Somewhat, but not really. I used to not care at all, but now that I'm a SAHW, it would be inconvenient if my husband quit his job tomorrow. I wouldn't start a fight over it-- inconvenient really is the right word. If I had no other assets, skills, or savings, I would probably care more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 01:29 AM
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This made me laugh so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:00 PM
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Men need to grow a pair and stop rushing in like "white knights" to the rescue. Once men learn to do that (since it doesn't serve their interests anyway), then we'll be well on our way to a more natural solution. That will probably never happen, because men really really like having sex with women. As long as men are thirsty (spoiler alert: it's in their nature), women will always have the upper hand in the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:49 PM
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I don't even know where to start with this. If women are being raped by men in high power positions, it's not because that man is sexually desired. It's because he has enough money, power, and social clout to do what he wants (relatively) free of consequences. You know how very rich people can sometimes get away with other nonsexual crimes? Same deal. Women desiring apex men might be a reason for them to get their hearts broken, but it has nothing to do with the shitshow happening in Hollywood/a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:48 AM
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Like I said, I really don't think we should so freely give up all that can be so very good there in the name of all that might go bad there. And if it's worth it to you, and you're willing to accept the risk of being fired, then you should go for it. Well if you don't think it's wrong, why should they have to keep it a secret? Well, because I think policies banning such relationships make sense from an employer's POV. Because if the relationship ends or goes wrong in some way, it might open the …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:08 AM
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Best way to curb this issue? Stop the inflated hypergamy and resort back to assorted mating. The average man does not have the leverage and power to even even get away with sexual assault. How do you propose to do this? You are basically saying, that if human attraction worked some other way, there would be no problems. Women are attracted to certain things. To quote RP, you can't negotiate desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 06:56 AM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 06:53 AM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 06:51 AM
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What if a college banned all relationships between even older grad students and professors? I think this would be appropriate, because boss/employee or professor/student relationships tend to be unbalanced in terms of power. If it's an older grad student and a professor, they should probably just keep their relationship on the DL until the student graduates, which I assume is what people do in that circumstance. Can you make love illegal and expect no problems to arise, and no suffering to be ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 06:07 AM
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Yes, it is certainly possible that men might find girls attractive before the age of majority, but I don't think that's at all relevant. Age of consent laws exist to protect minors from predatory adult behavior. The number itself is always going to be somewhat arbitrary. And on a personal level, the age of consent is 16 in my state, and I find that more than reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:47 AM
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I give 0 fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:16 AM
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I agree with what you're describing, but I don't know if I agree with the mental processes you're attributing to it. I have seen time and time again, bad boy player who dabbled in partying and drugs and sex, or nerdy video gamer who had no success with women ever, chase after that one girl who makes him drop his "wild" habits or "addictive" habits and either "man up" or "settle down." Yes, definitely, but I don't think it's really the doing of that one girl. She's the catalyst, but I think settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 07:52 PM
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So wait, are you married to your "wife" or no? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7mpym1/q4w_have_you_ever_had_sex_with_men_shorter_than/drw9wxa/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 05:24 AM
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This is coming off as trolling. I encourage you to resubmit it, but please do it like a normal human without all the brackets.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 03:29 AM
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Sure, as long as he doesn't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 10:57 PM
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WHERE are girls being raised to be wives and mothers? In tradcon families.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 10:56 PM
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That's subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 08:20 AM
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In this context, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 05:45 AM
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Your flair is me irl Twinsies! So is the solution for someone who wants to settle down in their early 20s, to marry an older man? That or find a unicorn. On average, men seem to become interested in settling down late-20s, although it takes some of them longer. So theoretically you wouldn't have to date someone too much older.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 05:42 AM
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Do men in general stay away from commitment like marriage or having children Most men settle down in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 05:32 AM
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I guess it depends on what you mean by pushed. I'm Pentecostal, and there's been some social pressure about "So when are you going to make your dad a grandpa?" But doctrinally speaking, openness to having children isn't a requirement the way it is in Catholicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 04:21 AM
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Socially, you enjoy a respectable relationship status and may calm nagging parents. This. My husband and I were together for 5 and a half years before marrying, lived together for 5 years. Our relationship and lifestyle hasn't changed since we've gotten married, but others definitely see our relationship as official and legitimate now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:41 AM
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I agree with her and you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:26 AM
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Depends on the denomination. Catholics do, but most Protestant denominations don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 03:25 AM
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My husband is a vegetarian, and I'm a meat-eater. Cooking dinner is slightly more of a pain in the ass, but it's in no way a deal-breaker. Works fine for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:04 AM
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Religion is a reason for a man to get married, even if he doesn't want any children.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 01:03 AM
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Considering I'm 5'1", a man shorter than me is overwhelmingly likely to be a midget. I've never even met a man shorter than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:38 PM
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Well. It's a nonfactor because I don't really care. He's a high school drop out, and that is fine. Jiving on an intellectual level is nice to have, but not a necessity for me. There are many, many other traits that I love and value in him. I avoid emphasizing it, because I know men have male pride/ego, and I don't want to be rude and step on it. He often makes positive comments about my intelligence, so it's not that I pretend to be dumb; I'm just not a know-it-all asshole about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:36 PM
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No, I have never had sex with a midget.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:28 PM
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He can be both a selfish asshat, and honest about it. Yes, being honest about being a selfish douche doesn't suddenly absolve you of it and make you free from others' judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 07:29 AM
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Well. How do any of us explain PPD to our significant others? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:54 AM
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He's saying its enjoyable, but that doesn't apply to a virgin, they haven't experienced this "joy". I'm a woman. Why do men seek out sex for the first time? Because they're horny and attracted to a woman, yes? This is the same reason women have sex. Like men, women feel horny, even when they're virgins. If you aren't asexual, I assume you know what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:51 AM
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Because I have yet to meet a woman who won't admit to masturbating if you get to know her well enough. Everyone does it. Some people just don't like admitting to it for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:49 AM
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I'm not completely sure this isn't a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:48 AM
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I am convinced that any woman who says otherwise is a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:47 AM
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She can't miss out on something "enjoyable" when she's never experienced it. Women still have sex drives and a drive to seek out sex while they are virgins, and most women will have begun masturbating by the time they're finished with puberty. Most women don't orgasm as well. Lol, bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:44 AM
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Because women, like most humans, enjoy sex. So in order to forgo sex and remain a virgin into mid-20s, there needs to be some kind of compelling reason. Religion is a common reason, and as you pointed out, asexuality would be another reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 06:12 AM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 05:09 AM
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I've got my eye on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 12:57 AM
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Nice try, gay mafia.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 12:50 AM
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Non ironically agree with most of this. I always thought every incarnation of RPW overly vetted men, in like bish u ain’t gonna wanna fuck your man if you weed out every possible “player tell” . Agree. I never agreed with that aspect of it. I stumbled across an old guide for vetting men on RPWi yesterday, and their list of red flags struck me as absurd. Among the list were things like smoking and "incompatible diets." .... Incompatible diets? For real? No one's perfect, man. If you weed out all …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 12:36 AM
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I used to write for a living, and I got perfect scores on the verbal/written sections of the SAT in high school, ayyyy. My vocab is probably larger than most people's. My husband uses words wrong all the time. I don't correct him in the interest of not being a naggy bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 12:33 AM
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This is why I need feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 11:52 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 09:29 PM
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Can confirm. Am woman, despise condom sex like it's the devil himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 09:28 PM
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The OP has marked this post "CMV." All top-level comments should attempt to challenge the OP's view. Comments of agreement belong under the Automod comment thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 09:28 PM
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The OP has marked this post Q4Women. All top level replies should be written by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 09:22 PM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 09:20 PM
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OP has marked this post "Q4Women." All top level comments should be written by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 09:20 PM
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Your post has been removed for the following reason: Internal questions. Do not ask questions that are better suited for TRP or TBP. PurplePillDebate is not for red pillers to talk to each other in front of blue pill or vice versa. You may want to try r/asktrp or /r/ppdPersonalAdvice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 09:18 PM
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I thought the technical term was bazoombas.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 06:54 PM
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What is with men and their long eyelashes, with the perfect curl? It's so unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 06:46 PM
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Hell yes he's physically sexy. My first impression upon meeting my husband for the first time was, "That is the hottest man I've ever seen in real life." Do you ever wish your partner would put more effort into their appearance, ie, working out or grooming/dressing better? Nah, he's a sharp dresser. He's recently started putting his hair into a (short) ponytail and holy crap, he looks like he stepped out of a GQ magazine. Do you ever want to ravish your partner just because he looks hot? Lol, al…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 06:43 PM
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It is relevant, unless you think everyone on PPD is middle class or below. UMC+ is very much a part of the SMP, so why wouldn't we discuss sexual dynamics as it applies to that portion of the population as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 04:11 AM
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So can I take this as acknowledgement that TRP isn't universally relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 04:06 AM
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Don't worry, bb. You're the coolest snowflake. ❄️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 04:05 AM
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We are not bonobos, and what you're saying is a naturalistic fallacy. You think humans should have no compunctions with regard to sex, but I disagree. You probably also believe in moral relativism, and I would disagree with that as well. So, what makes your opinion any more correct than mine, and why would I adopt it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:47 AM
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She was just a twinkle in her father's eye 30 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:19 AM
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Every little bit of kindness helps, no? And if they're jerks, I assume they're out there somewhere being jerks to other people, and that's no bueno.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:54 PM
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Your disapproval for The Red Pill is based on morality, it seems like. But sexual strategy is amoral... I'm not the commenter you replied to, but I'll hijack this reply, since I have similar objections. Why should "sexual strategy is amoral" have any meaning to me? Why should that supersede my own moral code?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:53 PM
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Isn't the world kind of a shittier place the more jerks there are in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:49 PM
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Merry Christmas, you weird motherfuckers. ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:48 PM
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Excuse you!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:47 PM
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Be safe and don't drive drunk! Merry Christmas!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:46 PM
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Feminism is actually a sexual strategy for finding the Alphas and weeding out the betas. Calling feminism a "sexual strategy" is flat-out wrong. Whether or not you agree with it, feminism is an ideology that attempts to correct perceived inequality between the sexes. It can in no way be described as a sexual strategy. If you put two and two together, it seems like Red Pilled men and feminists should get along great And I do find VERY many parallels between radical feminism and red pill theory. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:15 PM
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Your post has been removed for the following reason: Rants. Posts which appear to be simply an expression of an individual’s views, or why the views held by another individual/group of individuals are wrong will be removed. This includes posts with a neutral title but the text of the post being a rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 07:47 AM
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Do you think cultural literacy has no value?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 03:58 AM
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Trolling and two personal attacks in the span of 5 minutes. I know you've been warned many times in the past, so you have been tempbanned.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 11:33 PM
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It's good to know what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 11:26 PM
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lol, wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 11:24 PM
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What does your tulip peddler flair mean?
/r/RPChristians23/12/17 11:21 PM
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Let me be clear about one more thing. The context of your question seems to come from a place that assumes the point of marriage is love and/or happiness. This is a modern convention. Prior to the last couple centuries (pretty much when the feminist agenda started creeping up), people did not marry for love. Love was something that had to be expressed after the fact of the marriage, not the reason for the marriage itself. Yes! Absolutely agree with this. Lately I've been examining the idea that …
/r/RPChristians23/12/17 11:16 PM
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This bot is very, very creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 10:41 PM
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Please don't advocate suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 10:29 PM
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Ever fight hard to make sure your SO gets the food they want first because it would put your mind at ease? It's like trying to force feed someone food they like but they keep refusing so you push harder until the food is on the floor, you are both in tears and someone loses a sock in the ordeal. Too real! I know this fight well. YOU LIKE TACOS, let me get you the damn tacos. It doesn't matter that I don't want to drive to Jose's at this time of night.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 02:42 AM
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Do I believe that everything in the Bible is infallible and perfect? No. Then we have vastly different views of Christianity and Scripture, and probably will not find any common ground in this argument. Out of curiosity, what denomination are you?
/r/RPChristians22/12/17 07:34 PM
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If we want to play the legal formalisms game consider that Paul even said in effect if you get too horny to control yourself then go ahead but they should get married. I'm not playing any "legal formalism game," but neither do I think Christianity is a hippie religion where anything goes. I agree with what you said in this quoted text, but note that he says MARRY, rather than burn with passion. Not "go have sex with some 'thot' then rationalize it to yourself." Picking and choosing bits of Scrip…
/r/RPChristians22/12/17 06:32 PM
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My thought as well. Being not found on google is a good sign technically. Not really. It's much better to have a professional presence on the internet than no presence. It all depends on why you're easily found on Google. If you have any work published, you are Google-able. By all means, please hide your vacation photos and pictures of your dog, but at a certain point in some industries, anonymity is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 06:23 PM
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No, they say that they don't care about a woman's job or accomplishments for relationships. I mostly just see them saying that a woman's job and accomplishments aren't sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 06:13 PM
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Yep, but more aggressive and also less gay, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 05:17 PM
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Upper class men will marry someone hot who has a lower level job (kindergarten teacher, photographer, etc.) ASSUMING she also is still intelligent, nurturing, etc. An UC wife may have a photography hobby, but an UC man is not going to marry a woman who works at Macys taking pictures of children in a 9-5.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 05:08 PM
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I think that's seriously the best you can do sometimes, is just to let arguments go. Like sure your feelings may be hurt and you may be pretty sure you're right... but at a certain point, seriously who cares? Better to drop it and just be done fighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 04:12 PM
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Only happens if she doesn't feel secure in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 03:55 PM
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That sucks, man. I hope things get better for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:46 AM
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Hm. Well 6 years in and it hasn't yet. We're really not out to win points, just want to make the other person happy because why wouldn't you want that? Seeing him happy makes me happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:23 AM
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It gets very strange. You realize mid-argument that you're fighting tooth and nail for the right to do this thing that you don't even want to do, just to make the other person happy. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:59 AM
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Our common arguments are weird. They usually boil down to: Person 1: "Let me sacrifice what I want to give you what you want!" Person 2: "NO, let me sacrifice what I want to let YOU have what you want." We actually get legit irritated about this shit, and sometimes it ratchets up to high volumes (he's a yeller, and I picked up the bad habit of yelling back). I suppose there are worse problems that we could have than wanting to be too considerate, though! Then there are the rare snits we get into…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:53 AM
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But you guys will be the same type of people defending a woman if she ends up doing this. Crazy how bias things are. No, cheating is cheating no matter who does it. "Open marriages" are bullshit and make a mockery of marital vows.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:04 AM
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Marriage was always intended to be between one man and one woman. David had multiple wives because he was being disobedient. There are many instances of sin in the Bible, even sin committed by Biblical heroes-- but these are not meant to be emulated. God doesn't immediately punish people for their sins (as you can see by walking outside your house and observing people for about five minutes). That said, we will all eventually be held accountable for our sins on Judgment Day, including sexual sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:08 PM
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You're still faithful. Lmao. You're just having sex while she's medically unable to. You're not leaving her. This is not what faithful means in this context. I appreciate that you think you know better than thousands of years of Bible scholars, but you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:04 PM
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What vow did you break? "and forsaking all others, be faithful to her as long as you both shall live" That's the vow that we both took, that he would be breaking by seeking sex outside of our marriage. You're just wrong about the definition of adultery. Adultery is any extramarital sex (aka, cheating on your spouse).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:59 PM
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Then you've proven you're selfish. No, I've proven that my marriage vows and the creed of my religion mean something to me. Marriage is for life, and it's a promise to be faithful, among other things. Tell me what's wrong then if a man fucks just to get a nut off? Adultery is immoral. Encouraging your spouse to commit adultery is also immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:55 PM
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I'm not the person you're replying to, but I doubt many women would accept what you're proposing. Being celibate if your spouse becomes physically unable to have sex, is literally one of the things you sign up for when you marry a person. No, I would not be okay with my husband having a "free pass" to fuck other women, even if he was otherwise still loving towards me. That isn't part of the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:46 PM
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But marriage is great! 🌈
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:44 AM
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Yeah that's fine, but honestly I think you're the atypical one here (also in the most respectful possible way). No offense taken! You might be right, I hang out with a lot of tradcon church folks and married couples. Maybe this is more of a thing in the singles crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 09:53 PM
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I mean this in the most respectful way possible, but it sounds like you got these ideas from teen movies and romcoms. I'm in my 20s, and I can't imagine playing this game with any of my friends. Shoot, I can't imagine hot tubbing with my friends, how weird. I haven't played drinking games since freshman year of college. When we get together with friends, we'll just have a couple drinks or dinner and chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 09:14 PM
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Right, that is understandable. So it makes sense to go for women who have values that leave no room for "back ups."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 08:22 PM
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Who plays that game as an adult, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 08:19 PM
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I think that sourcing that claim from The Daily Mail is questionable, and I seriously doubt that half of women have back ups. Having "back ups" is low-class and trashy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 03:25 AM
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Can you give me an example about some things you'd say? Because I hear this a lot, and I really can't envision a conversation that would give you an idea of someone's n-count. I can picture a conversation that would give you a good idea of someone's values surrounding sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:30 AM
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if the other person in the relationship wants you to be honest and asks you about your sexual past Apparently these people exist, because some people say they care on the internet. That said, I have never met one in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 01:42 AM
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Obligatory, "she can feel however she wants because that's her business and not mine." My kneejerk reaction is that she might be happier if she chilled out. She sounds neurotic. Someone asking if she has a boyfriend is probably just trying to preempt a "no thanks, I have a boyfriend!" response and probably is not thinking that she's stupid or incapable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:49 PM
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As a mod of MRPW, I think I speak for all of us when I say, please no one ever call a man "my Captain," unless you are literally on a boat and he is navigating the ship. It is cringey and weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:15 PM
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I'm married as of yesterday! 🎉🎉🎉
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:57 AM
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Thank you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 06:21 PM
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Don't they always?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 02:45 AM
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I did the literal opposite of all of these things except the last point. (I do have domestic skills and feminine hobbies.) I'm marrying the hottest man I've ever met this Saturday. Been together almost 6 years, and we adore each other. Here's the real advice: Be pretty and nice, and men will love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:12 PM
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I was thinking "sexist" meant like cultural-sexism, like women should know how to cook well or know how to put on make up or look really pretty if needed. Yeah, I totally see where you're coming from. And I think what you're describing is pretty unavoidable, no matter who you date. I'm not particularly bothered by benign, garden-variety sexism like "women are emotional."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:59 PM
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I'm friends with the OP, and I asked him what he meant by "sexist." His example was, "thinks women shouldn't drive large vehicles and thinks a woman should not be president." That is not a person that I could date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:46 PM
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That's definitely less than ideal, but I don't mind giving direction every time. Don't get me wrong, neither a sexist or autistic man is ideal, but I could deal with a moderately autistic SO. I could not be pleasant to a blatantly sexist man, nor would I want to live with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:22 PM
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I'm a very patient teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:17 PM
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Well it's not ideal, but it's definitely preferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:40 AM
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He probably is, but his personality would be grating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:18 AM
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"children do X, adult who kept doing X are children" OP never proved that crying is a trait that is child's trait, rather than a human trait. He is using the common trait "crying" to say that women are children, but a common trait is not enough evidence to say that Group A is Group B. I can use that reasoning to say that many things are identical, when they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 09:02 AM
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Yes, that's what reductio ad absurdum is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:50 AM
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Hope everyone is doing well, and I hope that 2018 brings you better sex/relationships/love than 2017 did! Well aren't you a sweetie pie?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:46 AM
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"Children cry, and women cry, therefore women are children" is terrible logic. Dogs eat meat, and humans eat meat, therefor humans are dogs. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:40 AM
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Church was great today!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 03:56 AM
1

Jokes on you all. My grandmother IS an EC.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 11:21 PM
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But they have no experience to back up their theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 06:01 PM
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Why on earth would an ASEXUAL PERSON be "elevated high" within a community that discusses and teaches sexual strategy? That's like asking why spectators aren't elevated high in the NFL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 05:41 PM
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Like this but smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 12:33 AM
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I'M GETTING MARRIED IN A WEEK, Y'ALL. 🎉🎉🎉
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 11:42 PM
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Neither. It's a fun way to kill a bit of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 12:17 AM
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Whoa buddy, we live in a gender neutral society. No such things as "female hobbies". Then you and I have a fundamental disagreement of male and female nature. And there is nothing wrong with that. You think being a receptionist or secretary doesn't take skill? I'll tell you what, come be my secretary during tax season, let me see you manage up to 25 client meetings, 50 client inquiries, and dozens of emails from various organizations a day. I'm not sure why you think that I'm denigrating secreta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:17 PM
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It appears to be the difference between men and woman. Men don't expect society to compensate them when their life choices ends up making it difficult for them to make money, so they do what they can to earn. Women kinda sit there and go like "well, society should pay me because I made the choice to have kids instead of a career. So force someone to pay for my living!". Where were we talking about "society"? I'm explaining that women generally have interests in female hobbies (cross stitch, baki…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 06:42 PM
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I never see RP men talking about men being sexually assaulted, ever. You're thinking of the MRAs. Most RP men think those guys are pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 08:03 AM
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Do women not have a drive or aspirations to learn? I don't get it. Most men I know are always looking to learn SOMETHING. Some of them are married, some have girlfriends, but they're all learning. Yes, most women also enjoy learning and have hobbies. In the scenario presented by the OP, however, he was talking about learning coding at home. I know very few women who have a drive to learn a STEM trade on their own time. I'm still choosing to learn french and music. Will they help if I lose my job…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:31 AM
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College graduates with work experience get jobs all the time I'm going to assume that you mean, without work experience. A college grad is much less of a gamble. They're fresh into the work force, presumably you could retain them for a while. As an employer, I would be much less likely to hire a 30-something year old woman with no work experience. The fact that she's middle aged, and has not worked in 10-15 years would set off major alarm bells.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 08:06 PM
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Yes, two is more than one. I'm glad we could clear that up. That said, sometimes a couple already has enough money and they decide that they value other things more than an additional salary. I'm not trying to convince you to marry a stay-at-home anything, but I'm not sure that you're grasping the reason why some people choose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:53 PM
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Hypothetically nothing, but you understand that it would be weird to train for a career "just in case we divorce," right? Most SAHMs are staying at home on purpose, because it's a plan that they've made with their husband. People typically don't plan for their marriages to fail (See: All the married couples running around without prenups).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:45 PM
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I get that you have some kind of schtick going, but you are going to need to stop trolling. I've removed several of your comments. Please consider this an official warning. Edit: Also, please refrain from advocating suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 11:32 AM
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What I really want is just for people to stop referring to the Spacey, Weinstein, etc. cases as "unwanted sexual advances". I get that, and I think better precision of language would help everybody. That said, I get the impression that news outlets are trying to be diplomatic by delicately phrasing "trying to have sex with a literal child" as "unwanted sexual advances." I think it's all politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 11:29 AM
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For most women of decent quality, especially the young ones. You're basically offering your looks (which, by your own words, are nothing extraordinary- "no belly, tall, has hair") and the pleasure of your company. Even assuming that you are quite attractive, and that you are excellent company, what you're offering isn't rare. It's very easy to find men who are offering the same, plus commitment, family, and provision.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 11:36 PM
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That's a pretty low offer, I gotta say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 11:29 PM
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I would like to offer a heartfelt apology to the ghosts who live in town, on behalf of the PPD mod team. Fuck the ghouls though, those lazy assholes are stealing our jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 11:31 PM
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We're never going to go full-PC and ban slurs. Man, if we had to remove everything that someone could conceivably find offensive, this place would be a ghost town. Would you mind stickying this at the top of the thread? It's a good answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 11:15 PM
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Here's my thing. I don't understand how so many red pill men can complain about the death of Marriage 1.0, yet they don't take marriage seriously themselves. Millennials have this habit of treating marriage as "super dating" where it's still reasonable to divorce your spouse for pretty much any reason under the sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:28 PM
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Yes, the flaws don't typically come out until a couple years in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:08 PM
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Eventually, they become such a critical part of your life and you can't afford (emotionally speaking) to lose them. The loss would be too devastating. This causes a problem though, because then you can no longer freely show your flaws and be honest with them about who you are. Every time you do this you are risking them changing their mind and leaving you. Sometimes it becomes so extreme that you start avoiding this important person intentionally because you fear the possibility of fucking it up…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:06 PM
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You know there's that whole bit in marriage vows about, "For better and for worse, for richer and for poorer, in sickness and in health," right? Did I miss an asterisk in there? Is it supposed to be, "For better or worse* (in case you do something I don't like, then see ya, sucker!)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:01 PM
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He is a boyfriend and not a husband. It's possible that they are incompatible and have different expectations of a relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen01/12/17 09:43 PM
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Hey, man. Reddit is serious business.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:18 AM
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Neat, and I smell some condescension. Talking about a woman's body parts isn't inherently objectifying. Wanting to fuck a woman isn't inherently objectifying. Seeing a woman solely as a sexual object, and not as a human with her own life, thoughts, feelings, and desires, is objectification. It's easy to objectify a woman in a porno, harder to objectify Sally from the office who keeps telling you about her cat. Sally might be smoking hot, and you might want to fuck her, but face to face interacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:15 AM
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Do you see libfems accepting or being ok with men appreciating female physical beauty? Yes, actually. Appreciating female beauty is different from objectifying women or harassing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 07:44 AM
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I actually never see libfems being anti-beauty. They're the ones who tend to call makeup a feminist choice, for instance. I do see them trying to redefine beauty to be more inclusive. Your typical feminist isn't anti-beauty, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 07:29 AM
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CMV: Water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 07:15 AM
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Are you religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 03:45 AM
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He's probably looking for more material for another TRP post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 09:44 PM
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Right, I'm not saying that they need to be married by now. The fact that they've been dating 4 years and can't even talk about marriage is what's setting off red flags for me. By 4 years in, a couple should be able to discuss their future goals for the relationship, regardless of age. Otherwise, OP is just making assumptions that this man will eventually marry her when that might not be in his plans.
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/17 08:18 PM
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I'm not interested enough in this conversation to play guessing games with you. You understand that I mean "In your own estimation" when I ask that question. If you would like to dodge the question, that is your right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 05:46 AM
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Are you physically attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:40 AM
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Send help. I've fallen into PPD, and I can't get up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 10:37 PM
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Yeah, I think a good many people on PPD are outliers. It takes a special kind of person to find talking about this stuff fun, day in and day out for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:41 PM
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Yes, physically very attractive. And by that I mean, high cheekbones and a strong jaw, aquiline nose, tall, and ideally very thin. He could be fit, but no more muscular than ottermode, and shouldn't be chubby at at. I strongly prefer tattoos and long hair, but those aren't strictly necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:06 PM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with waiting to marry. Personally, I've been dating my fiance since I was 21, and we're marrying this year, while I'm 27. But we agreed that we would marry in the future from about 2 years in. My concern for OP is that her boyfriend isn't even willing to discuss marriage with her, after 4 years.
/r/RedPillWomen29/11/17 04:37 PM
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That post was uh, "special," but it has been a slow week.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 09:09 AM
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Really? What kind of behavior are you talking about? I've never been there, so I have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 09:08 AM
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Aw, shucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 09:05 AM
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That garbage post about how would feminists react in a cruise ship disaster has absolutely nothing to do with purple pill debate. It does not belong here. I would love to get any feedback from the mods as to why they felt that post was relevant. So keep in mind, I can only speak for myself and not the other mods. I saw that post, and while I thought it was of dubious quality, A) it wasn't outright breaking any rules, and B) It's been slow here lately. I don't remove content unless it's illicit o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 09:02 AM
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But just how radical is your sex negativity, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 08:53 AM
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No worries!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 08:47 AM
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Have you ever tried making a Q4BP that simply asked whether we're individually sex negative or positive? I would actually be interested in seeing the answers to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 08:46 AM
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The OP has marked this Q4Women. All top-level replies should be by women. You're free to comment under the AutoMod comment thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 08:45 AM
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While this is a funny joke, it belongs under the AutoMod comment thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 08:44 AM
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Literally anything besides atheist. Like, she can be a buddhist or something, I don't care, as long as it's SOMETHING besides her own ego. Oh, that's interesting, and uncommon for reddit. What are your own religious views?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:24 AM
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I don't see the issue. "Because I feel like it" is a reasonable answer to the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:15 AM
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Right? Like have you met most people?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:12 AM
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Someone who gets it!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:11 AM
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You stereotype, you! (Also, I love your username)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 04:59 AM
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I believe that men and women are equal. That doesn't mean that men and women are the same. Equal, in this instance, means "of equal value." There are glaring differences between the sexes both physical and behavioral, and trying to bury those differences or pretend that they don't exist is a fool's errand. I believe that women as a whole enjoy dating men who treat them as people of equal worth. I do not believe that women enjoy dating men who treat them like they are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 04:18 AM
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You don't think women are attracted to men who make the first move? Are more assertive than women? Take initiative? I don't think this is sexist, because sexism implies negative bias. From the dictionary definition of sexism: "relating to or characterized by prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex." Women desiring masculine men (and assertiveness is a typical masculine trait) is in no way women desiring sexist men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 04:05 AM
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Sounds like confirmation bias to me. In this thread already, I've seen several women say that a man's attractiveness is very important to them (and I will be the first to admit that, personally). Even when women describe the men they're with, they usually overlook the shallow/sexist features that attracted you to him. I don't think that women are necessarily attracted to "sexist features". It seems likely that attractive men are more likely to be sexist/"assholes" and that women will put up with…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 03:59 AM
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The non-negotiable: Very attractive, devoted, protective, fearless, kind to people/things with less power than himself (children, the elderly, the homeless, service workers, animals), shares or is at least supportive of my religion, gets along with my family, and is a feminist ally. Second tier of desired traits (wanted, but negotiable): Generous, artsy, alternative (has/is into tattoos, piercings, funky hair colors), wants children, loves animals, nerdy/weird in a way I can get along with, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 03:25 AM
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And a thread full of women describing their husbands/boyfriends, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 03:08 AM
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I get the impression that you were expecting/looking for a certain answer from BP women, and are surprised that for the most part, their views of being good wives coincide with RPW. I mean this nicely, but I am curious: what prompted you to make this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 01:06 AM
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I'm going to be straight with you. The fact that you've been with this man for 4 years, and he still shies away from the most innocuous conversations of marriage or kids, strongly points to him not wanting to marry you. He may not want to get married, or he may not want to get married to you, but by 4 years in you should both really be on the same page wrt marriage and kids. Women don't have forever to wait hoping that a man will come around. If you want to be a wife and mother, you have a very …
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/17 11:37 PM
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Do you agree with the sub mostly? Ehhh, there's a question with a complicated answer. Yes and no. I don't think that performing femininity the way RPW describe is strictly necessary (especially as it relates to appearance). RPW is overwhelmingly anti-feminist, and I'm definitely not. I think the zeitgeist is often hostile/degrading to women (hello, popular media and porn!), and it bothers me. I find the feminist mocking over there to be mean-spirited, and I have never particularly liked those su…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 09:37 PM
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What a vague question! Ok, I'll bite. I want to be a follower of Christ: brave, loving, and selfless, willing to do what's right even when it isn't easy. I want to be a good wife to my fiance (marrying in 3 weeks :D) and a good daughter to my awesome dad. I want to continue to see professional success with my art and writing, which requires ambition, patience, and self-discipline; and I'd like to continue to learn new things every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 09:03 PM
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Generally speaking, the same woman will have looked better in her 20s than she does in her 30s. This doesn't mean that she turns into a bridge troll the moment she turns 30, but that as a general rule, female attractiveness is tied to youth. I happen to agree with you. Men are thirsty, and I don't foresee women having a hard time dating in their 30s. I think that part of TRP is revenge fantasy, which is fine-- but I don't see real life reflecting their ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 08:31 PM
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Who is "the fire" an who is "propellant" in this analogy? Pick your poison. It's an arbitrary analogy, the gender assigned to each object doesn't really matter to me. ...I feel like there's a joke in your comment that I'm missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 08:51 AM
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Removed for the personal attack. Edit that part out, and I'll reapprove.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:33 AM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:32 AM
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What does fundamentally change if it's her unrelated male buddy that she knows longer than her previous husband, and with whom she established the boundaries back in times when she was single? What's wrong with leaving gasoline next to a lit match? What if instead I left that gasoline next to a lit blowtorch? What if I put some stacks of newspaper next to it too? How about if I pile some gasoline-soaked kindling there as well? What could possibly go wrong? The match has feelings for the gasoline…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:31 AM
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for relationships and marriage those people are off the table for anyone middle class and up. even if they have some money, class permeates through many aspects of life and when you marry someone you marry their family. trailer park girl might be stacked and sweet, but her mom and stepdad have mile long rap sheets and her brother fell off the wagon so you gotta watch that he doesn't steal from you. This. Family approval factors into it, and you don't want to be that relative that people talk abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 02:36 AM
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The most pressing reason I can think of is probably sharing similar values. Social class isn't just an issue of wealth, but of culture and values. UMC/working class pairing will probably run into some issues because of those differences. Community/family approval also ties into it, especially if there is a legacy or inheritance to consider. Also, sheer accessibility. People tend to date those around them, which is going to lead to more dating within their own social class.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 02:33 AM
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How often does a UMC person date/marry someone who works at McDonald's, for example? Not often at all. People tend to date within their own social class.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 02:19 AM
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If you developed a crush on someone else while in a monogamous LTR, how would you handle it? By cutting that person out of my life, or if not possible (if it was a coworker or someone that I otherwise couldn't get away from) by cutting out all non-essential interactions with that person. If my fiance developed a crush on someone, I would hope that he would handle it the same way. We haven't had to deal with much of that in the last 6 years, because we socialize in a way that makes crushes unlike…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 10:59 PM
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We don't do this constantly right in front of him Yeah, I get the feeling that her husband thinks the two of you are just normal friends (silly him), and not that you are going on "dates." I bet that if he saw what went on during those dates, he'd be upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 10:50 PM
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just the overall way men and women cynically view each other as disposal and replaceable objects This, and you phrased it very well. People using one another as a temporary novelty and gaming one another to selfishly take what they can get has damaged gender relations-- and how could it not? Male and female nature is mutually antagonistic from a natural perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 07:15 AM
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This post has been removed because we don't allow personal advice/diary posts here. I suggest you try /r/ppdPersonalAdvice instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 06:59 AM
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you will be among the first to claim that it's unfair, particularly to women. That was a pretty good try at guessing my opinions, but you're wrong. I don't believe that marriage is for happiness, but for cultivating holiness in the participants. Marriage is difficult and trying, and a perfect opportunity to practice selflessly loving another person and putting their interests before your own. Barring extreme circumstances, like abuse or chronic cheating, I don't believe in "non-functioning relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 03:32 AM
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Are you at all worried that this would put pressure on people to get married earlier? I don't see this as a bad thing. I think people should get married earlier, especially if we're going to tell them to wait until marriage to have sex. It isn't realistic to expect people to be chaste into their mid- to late-20s. Many denominations have mandatory pre-marital counseling, where the couple will talk to a member of the clergy before they will agree to marry them. I think this could help in avoiding …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 03:28 AM
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I'm from the western part of the US, in a Pentecostal denomination. That said, there are quite a few Bible literalists out here, and several denominations which do not allow women to be ordained.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 03:21 AM
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I respect your point of view. There is a lot to be disappointed in about the Church today. That said, I don't think that's an argument against Christian morality being able to heal gender relations; that's just an indictment against certain individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:51 PM
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They also teach that men are to love their wives like Christ loved the Church (as in, self-sacrificially), and that men are to honor and respect their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:25 PM
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Christians cheat and swindle and justify their choices just as much as the non Jesus people, plus the mega churches are like cults with plenty of scandal. While I agree with you, a group of Christians behaving badly doesn't mean that Christianity itself is bad. Cheating, swindling, and building megachurches over helping the poor flies in the face of actual Christian morals. Even the churches would be cleaned up if they followed those morals more closely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:23 PM
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I nominate myself as spokeswoman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:21 PM
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Because sex was intended to be for married couples, and any other use of it is a perversion of God's design. I think the mutual antagonism between men and women is the result of chasing sex as a commodity. If people waited until marriage to have sex, much of pillsphere's advice would become obsolete. "Loving others as yourself" would also go a long way in smoothing over gender relations via kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:20 PM
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No, I wouldn't ban it. I believe in the separation of Church and state, and I'm not interested in fascism. I'll just be here, trying to convert everyone. There are several practical benefits to attending church that might help get some feet in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:31 AM
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I think porn and the normalization of commodified sex has damaged gender relations, not to mention the decline in marriage. This is going to sound like a joke, but I think people need Jesus. I think Christian ethics and a relationship with God would heal gender relations. On a slightly more actionable note, an end to premarital sex and porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:24 AM
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Be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 08:37 AM
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Brb left my chloroform in my other purse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 09:50 AM
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You're joking, right? You're a red piller, so I'm going to assume that you're not seriously suggesting that a woman is capable of knocking out a much bigger, stronger man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 07:03 AM
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Why not Rock Paper Scissors that shit. You hunk your man don’t wanna live? You the only one who values your life? I'm not who you were replying to, but there is a 0% chance that my fiance would let me sacrifice myself so that he could get onto a lifeboat. He would knock me out and throw me into the lifeboat before he would let me drown for his sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 05:54 AM
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Exactly. "My people" > All other people, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 12:24 AM
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If yes, would you leave your male friend / husband / boyrfriend behind or raise your voice and demand he be treated equally? Of course I would raise the world's biggest fuss and try to get my husband on the boat. Of course I care about my family than some stranger women I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 10:50 PM
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It's courteous to break up with someone in person if you've been in a serious relationship with them. "Entitled" doesn't factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 08:10 AM
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1: Why exactly do "high-quality" women not like to be plated? Because being plated is losing. It's giving away something for nothing (that something being sex, but more importantly, your time). Time is crucial for women because their youth and beauty are finite, depreciating assets. Marriage = winning, being plated = losing. 2: How many high-quality women are even single on the dating market and why is this the case? I can't give you a number, but I think most marriage-quality women pair off in …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 05:18 AM
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It's late, and I don't feel like reading your whole post, so I'm going to reply to the TL;DR you gave under the Automod comment: Love as we currently idealize it is ridiculously held at the highest value in our society. Most recognize that but many think it should be the primary fuel a long term relationship runs on. This fixation is not healthy, Good and stable unions are and ought to be recognized as the product of self sacrifice and work, not something expected to be found via long searching …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:51 AM
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You actually TL;DRed it. You da real MVP! I'll reply in a different comment in a sec.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:47 AM
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TL;DR
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:37 AM
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I've been relegated to the "friendzone" by a crush before. I've played the role of "friend." Do you think that these experiences are worse than having two of your children die; or being brutally beaten by a husband to the point that you are driven to attempt suicide to escape, only to have the hospital call him to pick you up after they revive you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:32 AM
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Sometimes people have legitimate grievances Absolutely. and being positive about it would be a really retarded thing to do. Depends on what you mean by "positive." I don't think it's helpful or healthy to try to act happy all the time if you are not. On the other hand, I do think it's important to respond to adversity in positive, constructive ways. I am pretty sure that the Christian role models I mentioned have overcome more adversity in this lifetime than most of the sad teenagers on PPD. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:59 PM
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Considering I'm not a mindreader, you're going to need to spell it out for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:54 PM
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Removed for shitposting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 05:44 AM
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I think pillsphere in general is pretty toxic. Fun to debate, but not actually good to bring into the real world. I suppose in a round about way, PPD has made me more grateful for my fiance and the strong Christian role models I have in my life. I look at the hateful, depressing attitudes here and I am glad that people I know in the real world are not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:53 AM
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Why is this so awkwardly specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 03:03 AM
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+1 to that, I would like to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 03:00 AM
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It's only that considering that RPW already knows some marriages don't last, that it already knows that some abuse can happen, that it feels comfortable with giving advice that would prevent a woman from being able to survive those events. I'm not sure what you're talking about. If a woman is being abused by her husband, RPW would not suggest that she stay in that abusive relationship. Case in point, notice that all the comments are telling OP to leave and get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:44 AM
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marriage is supposed to be until death do us part. It is supposed to be a lifelong partnership. That does not mean that RPW guarantees that you won't get divorced. In theory, RPW helps women learn how to not fuck up their marriages, in order to prevent divorce. That is not the same as a promise or a prediction of the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:39 AM
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What are your thoughts on platonic sugar babies? That they are lying in order to not get charged with prostitution. I'm positive that all sugar babies have sex with the men who "sponsor" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:53 AM
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Please do not encourage suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 01:28 AM
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Your post has been removed for the following reason: Leading Questions. Posts that ask a specific group why they think/do X when it has not been established that said group believes X. Examples include: “If redpillers are all rapists, why are they so concerned with self-improvement?” and “If bluepillers are SJW feminazis, why don't they think all PIV sex is rape?” This includes lesser leading questions, such as “Why do X believe Y?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 01:26 AM
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I can't think of anything that would make me go WGTOW. Have your experiences here on this sub made you more sympathetic to the idea of WGTOW, or less so? My opinion hasn't changed. I have never been particularly charitable to (M/W)GTOW. They seem like sore losers to me. If you get your ideas of what people are like from the internet, then yes people seem shitty and not worth dating. Most humans outside are normal and fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 01:09 AM
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Probably millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:05 PM
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You and her aren't any different, and if you were in my house you'd be in the same place. I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Why would she be in your house?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 02:03 AM
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Did they fake the semen too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:37 AM
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You and I have obviously met very different men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:10 AM
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Men are easy, they get off regardless. It takes a bit more work to get most women off, so it makes sense to prioritize "what women like" if the goal is a mutually satisfying sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 07:16 PM
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Not a joke! I've been dabbling in gender critical feminism, and I think they have some good points. I don't buy it whole-hog, but I agree with their analysis of sex work, porn, and gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 03:43 AM
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Feminists are sex positive. Against slut shaming. All for sleeping around. Totally against marriage and being a stay at home mom. Libfems are sex positive. Radical feminists most certainly are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 03:22 AM
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I hear so much of women wanting to find an “equal partner” and honestly that’s horse shit. Just finding and equal partner on a fitness level is impossible for that vast majority of guys who lift serious weight. I see your anecdotes, and I'll share my own: Most people I know don't work out at all, and of the five that do seriously train, four are women and one is a man. My fiance has probably never been to the gym a day in his life, and I'm there 6 days a week. ¯\_(ツ)/¯ When people say they want …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:56 AM
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TIL!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:37 PM
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Nope, has not changed my views one bit. A few people in power using their wealth and influence to get away with crimes? How utterly unsurprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 07:04 AM
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Omg hi!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:57 AM
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Removed for shitposting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 09:14 PM
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Treating transpeople like I'd want to be treated? Yeah, he probably would.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:58 AM
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it's fashionable to be polite and say how they're "real women", but no one actually believes it. Bingo. I tell my trans friends that they're so pretty and include them when I talk about "just us girls"... but it's bullshit. I'm lying to be polite and make them feel happy. They aren't pretty. They're obviously men, and they look like men in drag.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 10:42 PM
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She seems to be saying that she finds it unattractive. Not that she wants to pass legislation to take away men's choice to be SAHDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:44 AM
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You're reading a lot into what I said, and you are assuming that I'm only talking about women-- I'm not. People mostly esteem others based on social standing, and career tends to be a factor. Career and education is one factor, not the only factor. You're replying to a comment I made to someone who denied that career is a factor at all. Who's more respectable, a doctor or an unemployed dude who lives with his parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:37 AM
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I never said low status women can't find mates. I said people who are unemployed are less likely to be respected. As another poster said elsewhere in this thread, men can date women that they don't respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:28 AM
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Bricklayers, electricians, carpenters, and so forth. Also farmers, sailors, miners, and so on. People who actually can do something. Office workers with soft hands doing nonsensical "jobs" while gossiping around the water cooler and navigating the intricacies of cubicle politics. Yeah, I see them denigrated a lot. I'm used to the opposite. That's what I'm saying, I see "people who work with their hands" being put down a lot as uneducated. It's assumed that they do that work because they're not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 06:01 AM
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See, that's interesting to me. I hadn't considered that we might be coming from different POVs with this. I've never heard "rich boy" used as a serious slur, or heard that middle/upper class men are weak. The worst I've heard is the stereotype that "trust fund kids" are spoiled. On the other hand, being of a working class background is something I've seen many people be proud of. Meanwhile I'm very used to people around me looking down on menial jobs. My mom was beside herself when I was a chef,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 05:31 AM
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I don't give my respect to neither man nor women for what kind of employment that person has. If this is true, it's not the norm. Most people judge others on their class and social status, which includes career.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 05:11 AM
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Yes, that's what I did when I stopped believing in Christianity as a teenager. Just keep your head down and be nice, and you can believe whatever you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 12:21 AM
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I can't do it now, but one year I bought somebody a dirt bike. It was a riot going out to the woods to watch him ride it. That sounds hella fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:15 PM
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My bad! Reapproved your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:28 AM
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This post is marked Q4Women. Top-level comments should be by women. This belongs under the automod comment thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:29 AM
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This post is marked Q4Women. Top-level comments should be by women. This belongs under the automod comment thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:28 AM
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People understand your point. We just think you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:27 AM
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Depends on your values. I believe marriage is about the pursuit of holiness, not my individual happiness. Happiness would be very nice, but you don't get to quit just because you're unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:11 AM
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Communists give me hives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:48 PM
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I had the same thought. Thoughts as a Depressed Husband (How My Wife Helped Me Face Depression)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:24 PM
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Bingo. It is far more socially acceptable for women to admit to mental illness (and even that is not all that readily accepted.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:23 PM
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thoughts? That this isn't something people talk about on the internet, especially if they're being effectively helped. My fiance has some vicious depression; we deal with it, no help from r/relationships needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:20 PM
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I can honestly say that I don't give a fuck. I am very open about my preference for highly attractive partners. Looks are my first and main criteria when picking a SO-- that said, I don't actually give a shit about height as long as he is taller than me. I'm very small. As long as a man isn't a literal midget, he is taller than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:36 AM
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It only leaves people doomed if you believe that this life is all there is and that death is the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 04:09 PM
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I'm an egalitarian, I support all manner of victim-blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 11:07 PM
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I'd say better than other men in her environment, with the clarification that it's better than other men, in ways that matter to her. It's possible that this is not money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 04:33 AM
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Shh stop telling him our secrets
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 02:47 AM
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Alphas make poor husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 01:55 AM
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I think that you're wrong about the intentions and beliefs of non-reds who disagree with TRP. Some disagree on moral grounds, but some literally think it doesn't work. You're starting from the position of assuming that TRP is truth, and that everyone recognizes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 01:50 AM
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Because we have so much incentive to trick strangers on the internet, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 01:19 AM
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No, I meant him not you!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 01:09 AM
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Much good faith wow
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 01:07 AM
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You're so sweet! <3
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:21 AM
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You know, an ex told me that I needed to find a man who was a whole constellation, and I was the last star to complete it... there was a reason I left him. I thought to myself, "fuck it, I want to be the whole constellation." Never liked the idea of being a bit part in someone else's play.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 07:46 AM
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Maybe he didn't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 07:44 AM
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Marriage is about family and community. Your marriage is not about you. It's about building something bigger than yourself. Love it. Duty carries you through on the days when good feelings don't show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 07:43 AM
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For real! This isn't particularly applicable to secular folks, but one of my favorite pieces of advice along those lines is, "Marriage is about holiness, not your happiness." -- Basically, it's a covenant before God and doesn't stop being so just because you're not feeling it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 07:42 AM
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I really didn't expect to read something like this from a blue piller. But yeah, spot on. In the same vein, never marry someone hoping that they will change. Assume that the bad habits that drive you crazy now will be around for the rest of your lives. You could always be pleasantly surprised, but don't bet on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 07:40 AM
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He's married to a fellow STEM girl, and they had their first baby a couple years ago. They're happy together as far as I can tell. I'm still a weird artist, and I'm getting married to another awesome, weird artist/musician in December. All things considered, I think we're both better off this way. Although, I ended up reconverting to Christianity myself, so that was another weird curveball.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 07:36 AM
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I broke up with him. I was 15-16 when we were dating, and he was 19-20. He was a Republican Christian STEM-lord who wanted a housewife, and I was a bright-eyed and bushy-tailed little art kid who wanted to be different. He wanted to marry me and support my art career, and that freaked 16 year old Mads right out. It was so horrifyingly normie. (And before y'all assume that he was an unattractive STEM-lord, he was ripped and had a six pack. It just wasn't my scene. Eat your heart out, TRP.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 07:14 AM
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How did that relationship . How did it... end?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 06:56 AM
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Women are "ok" with porn because they have to be. Show me a man who doesn't watch porn, and I'll show you a liar. I guarantee you that most women would prefer their men not watch porn, if that was in any way an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:27 PM
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Oh god, please tell me I didn't run into an ex on PPD of all places. Are you married with a kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 07:12 PM
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"It's easier to face the world when you have someone telling you they love you at the end of the day." My first boyfriend told me that over ten years ago, and it's always stuck with me because it's proved to be true over and over again. The world is rough, but it's easier to get out there and take the shit when you know someone's in your corner back home. It might not be "advice" per se, but it helped me clarify what I wanted from life and relationships at a young age. It reminds me of RPW's con…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 06:15 PM
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Removed. You might want to try /r/ppdPersonalAdvice for dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 02:50 AM
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Christians. Check the flair, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 07:29 PM
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I don't buy cards and flowers for his mother because he cares about Mother's Day, or because I do. It's because she does. It's a nice gesture and helps you get in good with the MIL.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 07:01 PM
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How religious of you. Are you sure you're not one of ours?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:57 PM
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You mean I don't have to buy your mom flowers for mother's day?!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:41 AM
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I get what you're saying, but in a sense that's what you're "buying" with your commitment. Yes, it does become an expectation, because that's part of the role "boyfriend/girlfriend." You're buying someone to care for you when you're sick, to do your laundry, to go to family/social events with you, etc.. In exchange, you give them the same or a comparable level of similar acts. Just like sex becomes expected, because it's part of the relationship. That's what relationships are. The level of expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:40 AM
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What about all the infinite permutations available in between? They're irrelevant if a person's goal is marriage, but no one is stopping you from pursuing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:28 AM
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I know some female friends that tend to go for nerdier guys Probably still attractive nerdy guys, though. "Pursue women who already like you for who you are" is great advice if any women fit that bill. The more attractive you are to begin with, the more likely that is. If "who you are" is an autistic, overweight basement-dweller with bad skin, then you're going to have to change yourself to get any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:18 AM
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I'm actually at a loss for how to respond to this. Usually people enjoy doing most of these things for one another when they're in love. And even if they don't enjoy those things per se, they still want to do them on some level-- caring for a sick SO isn't fun, but you do it because you love them. Posting "together pics" on facebook. Ok, this is stupid though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 04:14 AM
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What expectations in particular?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 03:20 AM
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"What are we?"...uhh people? This is the sound of a woman (or sometimes man, tbf) looking for an exclusive commitment. People who "don't like labels" are usually trying to have a nonexclusive relationship with no obligation to the other party, without having to come out and say so because the other person wouldn't like it. And make all kinds of expectations and rules to follow. Because that's what monogamy is, and a great many people like monogamy. It's the cultural norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 02:52 AM
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Your post has been removed. Try /r/ppdPersonalAdvice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 02:47 AM
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Starboy was good and all, but it was very obviously filtered down for mainstream consumption Yuuuup. Oh man, the Weeknd was my jam when I was a party kid in the Bay Area. I remember biking around Berkeley drunk at midnight listening to Trilogy (back when they were just mixtapes). Nothing like listening to songs about debauchery on your way to get fucked up. So much nostalgia. Also, see that jumper he's wearing in the pic? I got one. So glad there's another proper fan of his on here, I'm tagging …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 09:49 AM
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I'm really sorry to hear that, man. It's always rough losing a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 08:04 AM
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Eyyy, fellow Weeknd fan. I've been stuck on this track all night. I dug Kiss Land, though. Especially the title track.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 08:01 AM
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If she doesn't put out within the first 30 seconds, you're beta af.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 07:59 AM
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I'm not sure. I'd tell you to just go and drink something non-alcoholic but you said you don't like partying. So I guess just take comfort in the fact that if you went, you probably would not have a good time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 07:59 AM
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If you have an issue with the moderators of the TRP sub, then you need to send them a modmail or otherwise deal with it somewhere else. PPD isn't the place for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 06:22 AM
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They'll never take me alive!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 04:16 AM
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If you're dating women that like casual sex do you really think that at some point they will just magically stop liking casual sex? Do people who partied in college usually continue into their 30's and beyond? People generally grow up, and their priorities and tastes change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 10:05 PM
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Arousal a literal physical reaction brought on by reaction to stimulus, which can indeed be psychological. To imply that female arousal is entirely psychological is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 02:33 AM
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Why do I always forget you're a woman? It's the emperor flair that throws me off, I think. Also: Preach!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 02:31 AM
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In third world countries I've visited women would literally bump into me and ask me for my number. Because they want your money and/or a greencard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 02:23 AM
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She'll get married just to divorce him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 07:06 PM
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I mean if he's going to keep cheating, then asking him to get tested is pretty useless. If he doesn't agree to stop cheating, I think they should separate. I don't condone cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 07:01 PM
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I agree with you that washing clothes doesn't take 2-3 hours, but 5 minutes is also intellectually dishonest. When I have a week's worth of laundry, it takes 10-15 minutes to sort everything into loads (and check all the pockets, because my fiance likes to leave things in there), 2 minutes to get it into the washer with soap, 10 minutes to hang delicate clothes, 1 minute to get everything else into the washer, and then 15 minutes to fold when it's done. I do about 3 loads of laundry, so that's 9…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 05:05 PM
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"Appearance of logic," how condescending of you. While I agree with most RP theory, I very often disagree with its prescriptive aspects. I've never been here for self-help, because I don't need it. I'm strictly in it for the discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 04:41 PM
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I like your strawman. Instead of appreciation for that, you get a sausage metaphor to point out how they’d rather just give it to the dude that was born with it. In what world do women appreciate men for this? Men shouldn't care what women think about PUA/TRP. They're doing it for themselves, not to make women happy. And yes, welcome to reality, women prefer attractive men and don't care how hard a man worked if the results aren't good. If they're going to get triggered by some woman on reddit, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 08:04 AM
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Yes, I did blue collar physical labor for about 8 years (cook/chef). While I enjoyed a lot of things about it, it's hard work and will fuck your body right up. There's nothing particularly virtuous or enviable about having to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 03:46 AM
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Oh nice, did you do intarsia or fair isle? I always found colorwork frustrating, I'm impressed by people who can do it. Cables are fun, though. I spun wool on a drop spindle for a while, but that's something I just don't really have the patience for. I'm doing this sweater. Looks easy, not much shaping. Plus I think oversized sweaters are just cute. :3
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 03:28 AM
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Do you knit too?! I'm making a pullover. It's my first sweater, so I'm going easy on myself. I've only ever done socks, scarves, shawls, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 12:55 AM
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but arguing doesn't exactly prove that the thing you're arguing for is true or correct. Who needs proof? There's no proof for any of the things we discuss here. The best we're going to get are theories that work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 09:54 PM
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Do you not like arguing? I enjoy coming up with theories and then defending them logically. It's a fun mental exercise, and it helps me clarify my own thoughts while becoming better at convincing people of their merits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 09:51 PM
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I know it might sound ironic to present this in a debate sub, but what is the point of debating? For fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 09:46 PM
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madscilove calls herself red Red pill, not team man though. Because why the fuck would I be?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:28 PM
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😎
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:23 PM
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I do go out and see friends, but I don't see that as a particularly interesting part of my week. It's fun, but not noteworthy. If all I did was spend my days being social, I would be disappointed with myself for accomplishing nothing. Art has replaced work for me, and so I try to have a good art/life balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:19 PM
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some people are extroverted and need things like travel and adult conversations. Yes, but most people would be in an office working a 9-5 each weekday, not travelling the world. Replacing a dayjob with projects I actually care about doesn't mean that I'm any less able to go have "adult conversations" and travel. Hell, I have more time to see friends since I'm not stuck at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:13 PM
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You are free to appeal in modmail, report my post (which has already been reported, and approved by another mod), or argue your case within the post itself. You are not free to continue to make reactionary posts ranting about posts that you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 06:52 PM
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That's nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 06:03 PM
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I don't feel like arguing with you. Your points weren't particularly compelling, unlike some other comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 06:00 PM
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Only boring people get bored. I'm finishing editing my novel, working on paintings, baking hella shit, very involved in my church, sewing new boxers for my fiance, and knitting a sweater. And trying to figure out how to make candles (black candles, because how rad). Man, that's not even mentioning how much cool shit there is to read at the library, and arguing with you people on the internet. I can't imagine ever getting bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 05:54 PM
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