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Again, things guys tell themselves to absolve themselves from failure
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:35 PM
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Men and women share this trauma brought on by a society that lies to them, gaslights them, and mentally traumatizes them. If you're still blaming women, you've barely scratched the surface of the truth, even if you're on the right track by understanding something is amiss. You're still victim blaming
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:33 PM
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Women think, feel, speak in a circular current. Men could learn to understand us better but have zero societal incentive to do so. This is why men get the stereotype of being poor listeners while women get the stereotype of being vapid. OPs post is merely a consequence of our society's overall low EQ and reinforces nothing of consequence
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:43 PM
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Far more advanced, you've essentially taken the question to Utopian extremes. When it comes to consciousness, a (rising) tide (lifts) all boats." So roughly half the boats at once essentially leads to an "all hands on deck situation" breaking the threshold of critical mass needed to enact a complete paradigm shift. It would breed a very bold and self-actualized breed of people If we're talking the true red pill here and not the black pill in disguise
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:59 PM
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Your lips to (God's) ears
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:44 PM
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Me or the context of my statement could've been the subject of your attack. If it were against me, that's an ad hominem. This isn't rocket science. If you want to be 100% understood 100% of the time, speak less vaguely and your meanings won't be open to interpretation. It's foolish to speak so surely about topics you know nothing about. Not an attack on you but rather an observation against the axiom of 'fools rushing in' But if you were here to learn you wouldn't dismiss my point of view w/ ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:10 PM
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"better" is subjective, it's all good
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:16 PM
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Oh look an ad hominem from someone who doesn't know whats nonsense and what isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:14 PM
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People who don't understand astrology give astrology a bad name. It's a psyops to suppress the ancient ways. Many people are so eager to fit in, they're fooled in this way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:20 PM
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I wouldn't be so sure
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:19 PM
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That's your ax to grind. People who understand "as above, so below" don't do so for the negative reasons you'd like them to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:16 PM
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Giant voice of reason in an otherwise dimwitted echo chamber of judgement and ignorance
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:15 PM
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You might think that, but that's only your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:14 PM
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Not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:09 PM
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ITT: a bunch of people who think they know how to measure someone's intelligence based off the psyops they grew up regurgitating and thinking that's intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:08 PM
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It's definitely a liberating thing to not harshly judge those things we don't understand like others in this thread. Kudos to you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:06 PM
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Sincere question but how old are you, OP? I think you need more experience with women so as to demonstrate how baseless your claims are? The situation isn't as cartoonist as you describe it. A lot of times introverts take longer to get noticed because they're introverts. Not because of some (failing) by women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:03 PM
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This thread was heavily refuted when it was posted yesterday already. If you're complaining the vast majority of women are too selective, you're admitting the men left on the outside looking in aren't doing their part to be decent, selectable, attractive men; mind, body, soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 08:18 PM
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Thank you, bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:03 PM
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Few and far between in this thread, but also a really good comment Edit: the further I get from the top comments, the more rational and correct the responses are becoming
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:03 PM
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Another correct response. I'm justing going down the top comments and their replies and so far found two correct responses and a lot of "outsiders looking in" professing that "hot men are routinely successful**because of misogyny," which is stupid bc I haven't come across a single primary source yet. I'm sure I'll find one, but it's just so funny how many unsuccessful guys think they've got it figured out and their situation is hopeless. It's simply not true
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:01 PM
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Simply because you can find isolated instances from your generation doesn't mean that still is representative of the whole of men. What I described is very much a thing and it's very difficult to get across to men the amount of emotional weight they generally, thoughtlessly hoist upon women day in and day out. It adds insult to injury when many of those men won't reciprocate, even in small measure. Relationships work out when there is balance
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:47 PM
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Men in relationships have demonstrated to me that they go into relationships excited to share with the woman all they have to offer: their favorite music, favorite TV shows, favorite places to visit, favorite hobbies, etc. They also like things a certain way and of course have their own ego conditions to satisfy in either healthy or unhealthy ways. The mutually evident reverse to this is the resistance these same men have to enjoying our favorite music, our shows, our fave places and our hobbies…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:30 PM
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Very untrue. Men like you simply take for granted all the advantages, expectations, and liberties men get in relationships (while ignoring all those the woman forsakes). If you only focus on access to sex, then yes, you can make the ascertain women have an advantage. However, I'd argue this is more like a double-edged sword.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:24 PM
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It's still a patriarchy due to the 1000s of years of infrastructure and ideology. (Solution isn't destroying the masculine but elevating the feminine)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:54 AM
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Ya I'm that girl who gives these types of relationships a chance despite reservations, tries to make it work, and lives to regret it Its crazy but I think I've finally learned my lesson
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:47 PM
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This is definitely a thing. My x-boyfriend is 6'4, good looking, makes six figures a year and I ultimately had to be real with myself and leave him bc there was no spark. It's not as if love can't grow but at the same time it's foolhardy to try and change a man (or anyone for that matter). Some people click and others don't. It's a lot of times something very perceptible from the very beginning of meeting someone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:16 PM
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I won't put this as eloquently as it probably could be put but women have higher standards because it's no longer a cultural norm for them to swallow every bad behavior of the man and keep the (marriage) alive. Women haven't had this much of a voice since maybe B.C./pagan eras. Not all men are failing but the ones who are, are the ones who want to pick fights with women for daring to have equal liberty or waste time pointing fingers when they could be focused on driving their own selves into hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:43 PM
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Your comment doesn't make much sense. Can you say the same for men having sex? Are they "allowing (women) to use their bodies as objects?" Men don't own any monopoly on sexual gratification so don't act so baffled that women can consider sex fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:04 PM
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If it were true that "woman" is what "incels" most desire, they wouldn't struggle as they do to attract them. Adult "incels" often spend their lives indulging in non-social activities that they're passionate about. It's entitled to think they'd be successful with women without any effort, attention or focus on socializing or self-actualizing It's misanthropic & incorrect to blame some self-perceived attribute (unattractiveness seems to be the favorite). They just don't want it enough to try over…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:43 PM
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Sincerely asking: The knife twisting what? Where is it sticking and why are you the exception to the rule in some irrevocable way?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:16 AM
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Is there something wrong with failure?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:13 AM
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Where is the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:11 AM
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But you do think you're special.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:53 AM
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Just go whole hog: "(anyone) with expectations are narcissists" Does this still make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:46 AM
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Trick question: give me whichever man I share a spark with
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:25 AM
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Maybe "the average man" is so self conscious that he considers himself objectively unattractive? Honestly that's as far as one can push that line of thinking while maintaining objective accuracy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:35 PM
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Meanwhile men are consciously or unconsciously the ones attempting to possess someone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:09 PM
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You’re not a nice guy if you refer to Steve as a “douchebag”, actually it makes you the “douche bag”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:59 PM
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I think the biggest things you mentioned were passion, paying attention and having (real/true not peacock) confidence. The rest also makes sense to varying degrees but if men could find those first three things within, combined with a positive self-image; the sky’s the limit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:47 PM
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As far as compliments go, I find men typically beat me to it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:15 PM
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His argument loses zero credibility bc he's a man (or a lesbian). Perhaps you wouldn't agree but that's on you, not me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:46 PM
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Re-read OPs argument. He articulated it perfectly well with perhaps the exception that some men here don’t seem to know what we mean by the colloquial term r/NiceGuys
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:23 PM
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Incorrect. It’s quite specifically these: r/NiceGuys
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:12 PM
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Incorrect & Very telling that this is the top comment Women are literally here telling you our authentic truth and y’all are like “nah that does nothing to feed my victim mentality and negative self image, so here’s why you’re wrong…” I come to PPD for the opportunity to evoke real lasting & rewarding change in others. But I stay for the comedy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:08 PM
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If we care to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:57 AM
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Perhaps from the male perspective, but women don’t think nor behave the same way as men, so your “inevitable outcomes” could only be generally applied to men. While the outcome you described can occur to women hypothetically, it’s actually one of the exact reasons women are more picky than men in choosing sexual partners. Despite the reputation some men try to hoist upon women in PPD, we’re validated in keeping our legs closed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:05 AM
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r/NotHowGirlsWork
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:49 AM
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This is absolutely untrue. Kissing is an extremely intimate activity that’s extremely ick on a first date with someone we know relatively nothing about
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:42 PM
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Keep holding out for a woman mentally inferior to you I'll be back in time to collect your bones
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:24 AM
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The power imbalance that existed in the 1950s is only starting to level off to a return to natural equality of the sexes. Men and women should be equal but different. I always find it amusing to see all the men that see this disparity being corrected and want to cry foul as if they're the ones who are losing something when for millennia they could give a s*** that women were being treated like second-class citizens
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 09:42 PM
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Don't corner a woman but beyond that nothing wrong w/ a cold approach or online dating
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:18 PM
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My bad r/lostredditers
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:18 PM
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Nice self-serving guess but still wrong. Let me know when you exhaust yourself taking jabs at my intelligence and maybe I'll share with you the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:13 PM
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You’re referring to black pill incells masquerading as red pillars. They adopt the most extreme tenants of the red pill philosophy and rather than molding their life to it they blame women for the fact they feel the need to live up to them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:31 PM
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Thanks for proving my point that true morality at this stage in human history is still woefully misunderstood. You don’t understand what constitutes a bad man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:30 PM
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In order to be married one must first spend more than 1 year in a committed relationship, silly. What was the point you’re trying to make again?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:29 PM
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Very few people are bad, but bad people include sexual predators, embezzlers, human traffickers, corrupt politicians, corrupt evangelists, and corrupt business people, etc. The scope of what is and isn't bad is woefully misunderstood by humanity at large right now. Controlling = bad Feeding ones innocent yet taboo desires & self-gratifications = good
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:42 PM
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Weird post. Corruption will always exist regardless of the economic system in place (capitalism, communism, socialism, etc) so long as corrupt people remain in power. The reason capitalism is preferred is bc down to it's core, by definition, it must include upward mobility. Meaning under communist or socialist systems, yes, you can absolutely lose even more sovereignty than our current paradigm has allowed. While under capitalism, there is a clear and definable limit to how much may be stolen fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:14 PM
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100-percent absolutely But then I'm a girly-girl (barf). I uphold my end of the stereotypical social contract and expect my partner to do the same. A guy who thinks it's progressive to go dutch might actually do well with an overtly feminist trope type person
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:00 PM
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Implying being oneself is a bad thing. Be less afraid of your shadow and you’ll be less likely to think manipulating people into liking you is such a wonderful thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:52 PM
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Oh I wasn't saying that but that's a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:52 AM
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Aren't men in general the ones who seem to need to lecture like it's their oxygen. This is a pot calling the kettle black moment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:42 AM
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The people who are trying to be nice and kind aren't actually nice and kind. The guys who other guys don't like because they seem to be getting all the girls, are just literally letting it all hang out and being themselves. Ironic, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:39 AM
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🤐 "pick-up artists" are taking notes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:36 AM
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Men acting entitled and Women swallowing their pride Except in those equally problematic cases where it’s vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:50 AM
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Can't relate. I like my alone time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:55 AM
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Very few people know what Hermeticism, seidr, channeling, universal flow, The Will, intelligent infinity/The All, etheric bodies, toroidal cones, aether, chakras, sigils, egregores, energy meridians or collective consciousness, etc are and even fewer believe in them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:41 AM
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Kind of disagree, actually. Yes, many of JH'S asks went well into the territory of controlling. It also stinks he probably felt justified in asking for those things due to the power in-balance of he being an absolutely ultra-famous paid actor. Which is a barf way to see the world, if so. Regardless, his (boundaries) can be whatever he wants them to be. And if his boundaries violate her boundaries and in this case, even her personal freedoms, she needs to happily walk away. ......not share text m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:10 PM
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The problem w/ the Jonah Hill and a lot of the threads created on PPD isn't men getting ridiculed for communicating. I thought he brought up some valid points and concerns but unfortunately, perhaps he (I've only heard his side of things) like so many vocal guys here, are somewhat blind when it comes to picking their battles. Instead of raising legitimate gripes and sincerely looking for solutions, he presented a mixed bag of fair and perhaps unfair asks and felt he was in the right to do so on …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:49 PM
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This is also true
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:27 PM
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Some very good refreshingly positive advice in this thread. By no means am I saying your advice isn't among them, and I know your advice is very well meaning. But just to gently volley an idea towards you to see what you think and if it kind of clicks at all... But the reason we're not so quick to share these sort of ez details when prompted is bc in our experience a lot of times, a guy might latch onto and disingenuously start to do background work on all our interests rather than leaning on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:09 PM
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Read what I wrote again bc I never said that. You're saying that It's no more convenient for her to have the right to prefer tall men than it is convenient for you to prefer women with a limited number of previous sexual partners. In other words, i'm in no way shape or form criticizing you for having a preference. I'm criticizing you for not extending the same Liberty to the opposite gender
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:46 PM
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Well hold on now, I never said a man can't ask for a borderline chaste lady. It's hypocritical to judge a woman for being as slutty as you are, conversely. Likewise, women should NOT be judging men for being short, however, if they're shallow enough to exclude a man for being short, that's another matter entirely. We might argue that's shitty, but she has every right to do that just as you have every right to exclude a woman you don't prefer, even if it's hypocritical to do so, it's your right a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:39 PM
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You’re absolutely wrong and I will explain why. Men and women are different, yes, however, neither men nor women gain the benefit of being hypocritical about their own polar stereotypes. A man can either be monogamous and careful about who he sleeps with or he can whore it up. If he chooses the latter he has absolutely zero grounds to judge women for doing the same. To think that he does due to some kind of misguided biological imperative is a shallow excuse for stubbornly maintaining a double s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:56 PM
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That’s true, yet my point stands
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:26 PM
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This doesn’t apply to all men….well the first part does: Yes, men ABSOLUTELY want love. Men are very romantic creatures. So romantic in fact that they romanticize the very notion of a woman, a girlfriend, a significant other, walking on the beach, sharing all his interests with a beloved person who looks up to him and respects him, creating magic moments, impressing his friends, spending the rest of his life with someone, etc. You can see where this becomes problematic. There are many men out th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:10 PM
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Gee, I wonder if each man who shares OPs opinion holds himself to the very same standards of chastity, hm?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:46 AM
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Lol well ok then. Didn’t realize you were trolling, I’ll try to make a mental note of it for the future
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:42 PM
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Whatever you need to tell yourself. I’m sorry you feel so threatened by my opinion aligning with reality, an utter mystery to you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:41 PM
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The world doesn't revolve around you, and thinking it does is the paramount sign of immaturity. I know it sucks to be called out on one's own egocentrism but it doesn't justify projection. To imply, let alone outright say subjectivity doesn't exist is evidence of your ineptitude. Your final emoji evidence of your insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:39 PM
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I think I must be confused bc he said he was butthurt or so I thought I read
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:36 PM
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Trying to be so, it's compassion that makes me shout.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:35 PM
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I'm not new but you're really communicating poorly. This is something I can have compassion for but just realize you're speaking to an audience. You need to translate your internal dialogue for the uninitiated (ie ppl other than you) just like the rest of us do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:31 AM
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Passion, dedication, caring, responsibility, and can do, etc. There's a lot of things Obliviously, as evidenced by PPD, these things hardly apply to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:29 AM
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So, playing the victim is your M.O.? Thanks that proves my point. You're unhinged and of your own admission, an awful human being. Good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:27 AM
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A " lack of maturity" is absolutely subjective and your opinion. Cringe you can't see that.... Sad for your previous partners that you attempt to snow them w/ high expectations from the onset only to pull back once you know they're emotionallly invested. Very immature on your part (speaking of immaturity, by the way). Wanting respect isn't insecurity but I never said it wasn't. You're simply conflating mode of dress w/ a lack of respect, which if that's how you feel, again, don't lie to your wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:24 AM
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What? Yes you do. And understandably, there are things which need a relationship to develop b4 revealing themselves so you almost have a point. Unfortunately, your partner's manner of dress is probably going to be very clear from jump.youre putting the onus on your partner to wow you with the goods then getting mad when you can't change them after growing insecure about it. That's completely a you problem, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:59 PM
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It may certainly seem so to them, I agree. Plato's cave is deceptively cozy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:43 PM
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Sarcasm gets answered with sarcasm silly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:04 PM
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I reread OP's original post and again her definition of relationship boundaries falls well within the traditional definition of relationship boundaries. There's simply no arguing that and while I cannot and would not wish to force you to see it, I likewise can't be convinced to obfuscate OPS point on the premise that she is misusing words because from my vantage point she clearly is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:39 AM
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Then it's a fruitless argument. Definitions need not approximate Merriam websters verbatim so long as they exist within certain limits of acceptability. Remember, synonyms exist and words themselves are simply approximations of actual things never perfectly encapsulated by those words alone, regardless of the definition's source.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:31 AM
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It's not wrong at all. You're going down the road of arguing semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:58 AM
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Your subject line is close. Men struggle when they follow the golden rule which exists as an inverse of true morality. Treating others as you'd like to be treated is selfish and shortsighted. It's higher conscious to treat others how THEY like to be treated (so long as doing so doesn't violate one's own personal integrity). Obviously, we've all been brainwashed. Shall we all hold hands and exit this hellhole of mental imprisonment as a team? Edit: off-topic, but I understand the above statement …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:35 AM
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In this particular response, which I am directly responding to now, you are not saying anything outside the realm of what me nor OP already stated. Welcome to the mutual respect club. Glad to have you aboard
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:26 AM
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I've never b4 had to hand out so many downvotes as in this thread alone. They really don't get it. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:46 AM
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No one is forcing you to be in relationships with a person who's unwilling to change their mode of dress. How is it not controlling to insist after that non-negotiable has been made clear?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:44 AM
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This is off topic and unhinged
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:42 AM
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So, you're butthurt. Please go on...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:41 AM
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Cry, because balance is a thing, apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:38 AM
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Partners are not property. You are in essence reframing OPs statement to be disingenuously opposed to the textbook definition of boundaries, which it clearly is not It's not a man's place to consider his partners style of dress as his own boundary. It's her boundary and her domain, not his. You seem to believe it's OK for men to control women against their terms (which would also be problematic if the genders were reversed OBVIOUSLY) . So obviously you are in the wrong and this is probably a ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:34 AM
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I don't think this applies to all men, hopefully not most men. But, yes, there seems to be at least, a highly vocal minority of men on PPD who refuse to understand boundaries. It literally seems to make them fume to even be asked to consider what they are and why they're important bRaiN cAnNoT cOMpUTe cONFlicTinG ViEwpOiNts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:28 AM
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He's not red pill, he's black pill. Black pills have this nagging tendency to give true red pills a bad name
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:31 AM
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The red pill is based when not combined w/ the black pill. Unfortunately we got a lot of black pills in red pill masks around these parts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:27 PM
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Ya I agree w/ the latter part of your statement here bc it’s not really a lie to talk about his past experiences. There’s just simply no benefit to lying and outright saying he was in a relationship. Just begs more questions that OP won’t have answers to. It’s entirely possible that in sprinkling in anecdotes of these past situations, the date will assumes relationship and OP won’t need to dive into the specifics of what does and does not constitute a relationship, from the outset But yo, aside …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:58 PM
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I think this is OK too, falling in a morally gray area. OP does have hooking up experience, so why hide that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:52 PM
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OP needs to be true to himself first & foremost. Your suggestion only works if OP genuinely appreciates that scene
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:50 PM
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Misanthropes are gonna misanthrope
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:49 PM
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I don’t think it’s a problem so long as OP is open-minded enough to allow it to develop into sincerely more if it naturally progresses that way. It’s ok to give someone a chance & be pleasantly surprised, so long as OP doesn’t abuse the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:48 PM
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Respectfully, I think this is bad advice. I don’t feel it’s something that needs to be shared up front but if it comes up naturally in conversation, OP needs to own it, and demonstrate he still loves himself regardless. Lying or making it awkward are the quickest ways for it to go south.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:45 PM
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Not necessarily a red flag, but if they lack humility and confidence, it’d be an uphill battle. 24 wouldn’t be a red flag at all bc you’re still growing as a person. Just don’t fall into the trap of not having a life & growing despondent bc of it. If you make sure to have a life, those things will inevitably fall into place of their own accord. Edit: just throwing this out there as well but I would consider too dating some older women, who might be less likely to judge you. Male or female, your …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:40 PM
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It's purpose was to dig a little deeper into OPs pathos to extricate the true mechanism behind his opinion. So of course it adds to the discussion. You just don't like the conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:52 AM
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What a weird way to tell us you’ve never interacted with a woman before
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:09 AM
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About as final as final fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:24 PM
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The raw penetrative sexual magnetism of a man who knows who he is, owns it and doesn't apologize for it 🤤
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:47 AM
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Tip of the iceberg, but that things like emotions, feelings, listening to each other, body language, self esteem, your conscious and unconscious thoughts, aspirations, dreams, routine, community, physical freedom, breathing, peace of mind, Will, intentions, etc etc hold tremendous untapped power potential. Sometimes it's enough to just take a nice long deep breath, release all pent up resentment and understand jadedness is hardly ever earned. Insisting upon it locks one out from experiencing and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:44 PM
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Making 200k+ a year and showering daily is just one way to ‘maybe’ be HVM. Maybe the ones who take this course fit your hypothesis OP (but I doubt it, they’re succeeding for themselves, not women, otherwise they wouldn’t succeed). I think guys on here like to focus on the rare section of being rich and powerful bc it provides an instant excuse to not try. Then they can complain in peace instead of trying to be a decent human and contributer to society/community
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:12 PM
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That study is a false study that's come up like 3 times this week. If that's all you guys have to hang your hat on and explaining your losses, then maybe time to log off the internet and start being a little kinder to yourself. It's your own fault if you don't think you're attractive enough for women. You cannot put the fault for your negative self body image on women. That's like me blaming men for the scars on my body
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:59 PM
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Replace the world 'unattractive' with guys that's have a negative self image and I would agree 100 percent w/ your subject line. Unfortunately the near miss on the subject line falls victim to a bait and switch in the body where once again it’s “wamens” fault OP can’t keep a gf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:57 PM
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Ya, I think you're right. There are quite literally psyops in place against both genders.....gotta bring it all out into the light
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:34 AM
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Often those complainers are the same people who aren’t accurately/fairly perceiving the contributions of their partner and don’t come to realize how much s/he meant to them until it’s too late. Sadly this is often the man, only because society has done a really good job of rewarding divine masculine attributes in people while suppressing/obfuscating the importance of emotional, presentational, and nurturing contributions. Men can’t value these things bc they were barely even raised to recognize …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:01 PM
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Absolutely right. Based on my own experience too, this was what my mind immediately snapped to. We all go through OP’s realization to get to the higher truth you just described. Problems arise when people have the first realization OP described but then stop developing emotionally and establish this ideology in concrete. Being realistic and understanding your partner has needs you’re uniquely positioned to meet is a two-way street. The same people who complain about having to give too much ironi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:56 PM
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I’m sure it is. Not because of “mountains of evidence” but bc the claim you make is self-evident. Nothing in our world is w/o nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:48 PM
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This happens all the time but it doesn’t mean love doesn’t exist. If you don’t water a plant it dies. People have needs. One cannot use “Love” as an excuse to expect being able to get away w/ lack of effort, bad behavior or suppression of your partner. Unfortunately we live in an age we’re countless people have attempted to twist & turn what love is for their own selfish ends. Then play the victim when these man child’s or woman child’s don’t get their way. Don’t go down that road OP. Real life …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:42 PM
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I feel like this is such a well-reasoned response I want to make sure I respond in kind despite maybe only agreeing w/ half of it. Projection is a major issue for all humans. It isn't sexually exclusive and it's a symptom of emotional intelligence not being valued in our society (probably bc it derived from the divine feminine rather than the divine masculine which generally specializes in the related but different mental acumun or calculative intelligence). They're simplifications and all of us…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:26 AM
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Oh, we understand you. But your mental food isnt always pretty to watch and it's not for us to march w/ every whim. Can't always give you what you want while simultaneously stroking the ego society embellished in y'all, so playing dumb is sometimes requisite. Both men and woman must give a little and if either gender attempts to negate this principle, they can't be mad when the bluff gets called
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:22 AM
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Damn you had me going in the first paragraph. There’s more nuance to how you’re feeling then I originally perceived. Yes, some people are like your second paragraph, but that isn’t me. I probably wouldn’t have replied to you if I hadn’t automatically equated “fawn over” with “date,” because it becomes a different question you’re asking then I interpreted, one I don’t feel I know the answer to and would need time to consider Just know women don’t think think of men in terms of 9s and 10s. Yes, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:12 PM
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Oh no I get that. In fact blame is hardly ever necessary which is more or less my point. What I’m more so saying in this moment is that the words we choose to use to either self identify or describe our resources or challenges are powerful. We’re each granted a full, lush, open possibility space in which to act from in this life. The more things we choose to believe in, the further that nebulous possibility space collapses into form and thereby limiting our own options and possibilities via our …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:04 PM
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You’re debating in bad faith. Sometimes I agree with men on here, disagree or indifferent. A far cry from the attitudes of those I criticize (ultimately for their own benefit).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:49 PM
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It’s a very simplified way to put it, but I don’t disagree with it as a generalization. Comparing men and women is like comparing ricebowls and bananas (sorry apples & oranges didn’t seem sufficiently exotic enough)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:40 AM
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I think it would increase rather than decrease. I base that off my knowledge of various men’s success while practicing semen retention. Sex drive just seems to make y’all irrational, (womens sex drives cause this too, but our sex drive doesn’t have as big a seat the table as your guys’s does).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:32 AM
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Some people are attracted to the sissy whore paradigm and it turns him on. Our relationship is monogamous, however, he’s brought up swinging a few times. We’re very sexually liberated people, though, I understand that wouldn’t appeal to everyone. I could say I’m lucky, but I’m not. I spend decades aligning myself w/ spirit and co-creating my life. If I really want something, all I have to do is demand it of myself. No one else required. This is ancient knowledge lost to time but reawakening in o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:19 AM
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It’s a fair point to make in the context of the convo in case anyone wants to take OPs argument to extremes and suggest HFA women don’t have challenges just as HFA men do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:30 AM
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And thus a higher rate of being abused and being taking advantage of as well. Grass is not always greener, and even if it were, no one on this planet in the history of mankind ever made themselves happy, content, confident or self-actualized by maligning themselves against the perceived advantages of others. Comparison is the thief of joy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:26 AM
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Agreed Source: former sex worker Edit: though I'll add, I think there are countless someones out there for everyone and a lot of those who complain fail bc either they refuse to get out there or they're still stuck trying to be someone they're not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:22 AM
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Because a) money isn't everything and b) these sorts are rare and while a woman aspires for security, that security can easily present as a responsible middle-class men that we fall in love with, well before moneybags arrives and if it's truly love then moneybags is too late
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:21 AM
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Meaning men aren't necessarily less picky, they simply have a greater pool of people who give effort than perhaps women do. I think your views are slanted since ure presenting a trending misnomer that women only date 9s and 10s. That's just something people who consider themselves inadequate attractiveness-wise tell themselves to protect their ego which shudders at the thought of thinking it's their own personality that is the problem (which it most often is). Curious to hear how old you are. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:17 AM
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It's stupid to suggest you weren't naturally ingrained w/ intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the gender you were not assigned to? That's very egocentric of you It's natural you wouldn't understand. The fault doesn't come from that. The fault resides in assuming that you do (and then getting angry when we don't conform to your worldview or ideals)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:08 AM
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I feel compassion for you. But see even in this example 'blame' for lack of success is being shifted off yourself. How do you feel you do in terms of talking to women? Do you at times feel a loss as to what to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:05 AM
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Im doing my part. If hygiene isn't a problem for you personally, maybe your standards are too high (by one example). Maybe it's some other reason of yours that no women are prepared for you. There are plenty of women out there such as myself willing to stick their nose in your balls. However, many men seem to overestimate their own niceness. Complain about the perceived shortcomings of women, while carrying enough emotional baggage to repel anyone and everyone because they've never considered th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:46 AM
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You're missing my point entirely and if you honest to God think men put more effort into their appearance then women in general then you're probably lying to yourself on others ideals of yours as well My point wasn't to place pressure on men to measure up to women's efforts levels appearance wise. That's not what your average man is built for. My point is some men discount the efforts made by women (as you have demonstrated) and then play the victim. That isn't right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:42 AM
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Surprised to see this and had the very same experience. I really like that sub but it's not a debate sub, it's for lack of a better term, a circle jerk. A couple times I tried to point out instances of satire which were being taken with the utmost sincerity and got permabanhed for it. Luckily I appealed w/ my reasoning to prove I wasn't just trolling. They shortened my sentence to three months. I think a point for men would be despite how stubborn some can be they'll mock and ridicule you but no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:08 AM
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I think I see the confusion. Sorry, this is my fault too. Imagine you and I are sitting together on a park bench watching a field in front of us where this thread is unfolding. You say your comment to me as we observe as equals. I innocently disagree and comment on how OP comes off to me, without painting you with the same brush. I wasn't meaning to paint u with that brush but re-reading my comment it comes off that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:09 AM
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By all means delude yourself. It's not exactly a benefit to think you see a giant mothra miles away if it's just a moth on your windshields and no one bothers to point out your mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:03 AM
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Like you, I don't prefer to repeat myself. Low effort gets a response calling out the low effort. Sincere effort gets sincere response. Read the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:00 AM
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I'm not the one on here scapegoating men for my failures
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:58 PM
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Incorrect. This is more a definition of how women must behave to attract men. Men having looks will help them, but unless it's a one night stand, women are looking for the total package. Once we realize few men have that total package, women begin sacrificing their standards. And it's perfectly normal for women to settle on looks prior to settling on other qualities such as feeling safe around you, secure, entertained, understood, supported, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:56 PM
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Ya and to be clear, that's not what we're aiming for. But some men on this sub just seem to think we roll out of bed this way given the low effort they accuse us of and furthermore make silly posts like OP that ignore the fact generally women put more effort into getting noticed then men For men, shower, regular hygiene, smell good and wipe out your asshole well. If I go down on a guy and I smell asshole down there, I'm pulling out. I imagine this is why married women have a reputation for dimin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:51 PM
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Uh oh! There are studies! For every study out there you glance over to support your argument there exists an equally 'valid' study which will refute it. You're arguing angry, so emotion is clouding your better judgement. "Bannable offense" my booty hole. If you are not a woman and have had no success w/ women, seeking out studies which alienate them won't help you improve yourself and thus your chances w/ women..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:43 PM
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Women generally place far more work, time & resources into hygiene and attractiveness then men do, sort of torpedoing your entire sour grapes argument
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:36 PM
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Men are born with alot but unfortunately they're the same qualities society tells you are worthless or problematic. Sewing discord is the name of the game and it goes beyond Men v. Women. A splintered, embroiled populace is easier to control and pacify than a populace united.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:34 PM
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Also incorrect. For whatever reason, it seems a lot of men post here are trying to establish a moral high ground regarding attraction so they can turn around and Shame women for falling short of something we aren't actually falling short of. You guys just don't understand women and are looking for a scapegoat to explain your own failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:31 PM
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Not sure what the point of OPs post is or why it's so seductive to try to insult the women you already clearly don't understand by pretending you've got them figured out. Women are far more subtle in checking out people generally and we check out EVERYONE for myriad reasons, not always sexual reasons. So now that you know you are partially correct and partially incorrect, how does this information improve your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:25 PM
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Exactly what appears to be going on here, imo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:16 PM
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"enlightened," but thinks all women are one size fits all. When your ego is telling you that everyone is an a-hole, it's time to start looking in the mirror to ask the question: "maybe it's me. Maybe I'm the problem."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:14 PM
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1st paragraph is incorrect (conclusion hardly applies to every woman). However I agree with your second paragraph, but it's just a far broader collection of differences, misunderstanding and conflicting perspectives than your first paragraph suggests
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:38 PM
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Sex is healthy though. W/o it I’d probably have a lot less to live for
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:18 AM
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I bet the data would vary based on experience. Never been with a woman? Maybe not. Improbably. No. Sadly. Men who’ve transformed the fantasy into reality are probably more interested in things other than the woman’s attractiveness, to varying degrees
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:56 AM
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Your subject line is correct, but your explanation is a little narrow, imo. Both men and women must be required to be attracted to potential partners to try with them. And also, everyone is attractive to someone. Everyone has a chance at love, but must be realistic and accepting of their own presentation and value before dismissing appropriate candidates
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:47 AM
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You are not a true red piller if the end result is 'women are the enemy and lied to us' (that's incel black pill territory). I like red pillers better than blue pillers because in my experience the best of them are generally further along toward enlightenment than their counterparts. It's not women who lied to you, but society. Nor are you the only victims, we've all been lied to. Nor does it matter who, as a result has been tortured worse (I would argue women, you would argue men and ultimately…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:16 PM
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Whatever it takes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:58 AM
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Ancient societies deified both the man and woman and it was understood we were equal but different. Present societies appear by and large to only deify the masculine. This was done by design because female empowerment is dangerous to insecure men (or maybe dangerous to something else sewing the discord between the sexes and obfuscating the entirety of feminine power). Men can’t appreciate it, women can’t appreciate it, but by now she is very ancient, divine as ever, and no longer scattered to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:30 PM
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Funny, I could accuse you of the very same thing in your outlook upon women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:30 PM
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It always takes two to tango and by the same principle, the man is also never blameless. My mom was great and a physical therespist. My dad is a person who enjoys hard work (he’s retired and still spends most of his time on home projects in the same way someone might occupy themselves with a favorite sports team, fishing, or into dance, whatever). My dad is a great guy and I wish he felt secure enough to understand that but he’s been plagued most his life with very low emotional intelligence. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:23 PM
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Slut shaming says more about the person casting judgement than anything else. It’s an impossible standard some men set for women whereby women are expected to be chaste for Mr. Right’s eventual arrival from down upon proverbial white steed while simultaneously getting berated for not being promiscuous enough to satisfy those same mens urges prior to their decision to mount said steed. Emotionally intelligent men and women naturally over time grow out of the impulse desire to have everyone like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:10 PM
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Lol if you’re trying to assert it’s always the woman’s fault then you live in a valley of delusion. I would never cast all blame on men nor assume men deserve some grand majority of scorn for any presently held dissatisfaction I might have. It doesn’t seem the same can be said of you in respect to your outlook on women, however…. Why do you care about holiday media marketing. That is trash and doesn’t have anything to do with humans. It’s about money
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:49 PM
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Kk
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:43 PM
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In my family the nuclear fallout came from my dad, not my mom, for that sort of thing. Every person is an individual and not cookie cutter by gender. You are a human first and your gender second. Your personal life experience cannot be universalized nor can my own. And good, I assume that means you’re a man who does take accountability for his actions which everyone should for peace of mind if nothing else. However, you have also demonstrated the ability and willingness to judge. So don’t be ups…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:34 PM
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To be clear I said literal score. My point is men would have no problem rating 1 to 10 because it’s second nature being a man to try and stratify his environment. It’s in no way an insult against men. It’s hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:29 PM
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I honestly don’t think women think in these terms. Men are the ones who score women 1-10 amongst themselves, hot or not, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, home plate. Body count, etc etc. Without casting judgment one way or another, men keep literal score, women do not. Women meanwhile are picky about the men they choose irl so it’s only logical that would extend to online where literally your only data point is physical attractiveness (as opposed to an in-person interaction).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:56 PM
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Nope, whatcha mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:37 PM
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I’m not simplysaying that that’s what it is. It’s objectively clear from the scope of the study that it’s a disingenuous reach to apply it’s findings to women in general when it only applies to women 17-25 w/ a few outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:36 PM
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It’s a lie because women obviously don’t live in tutorial mode. Life is not a video game. What he is trying to say is women have it easier than him, which shocker: is an opinion and nothing more. It has no basis in reality. I’ve now made a hyper valid argument. If you disagree, hold yourself to the same standard you hold me to and explain why in a higher effort way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:34 PM
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That’s even worse. The sample set represents a slim demographic of women between a minuscule span of ages during which most young men and women are immature and underdeveloped.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:08 PM
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Why would you choose to believe an article without any mention of sample set size nor demographics. Can you link the actual study or have you simply never read it? I understand you disagree with it, but you may also be giving it too much credit. Take any statistical study w/ a grain of salt regardless of whether it appears to support or discount your own perspective. It’s objectively easy to create a study which produces whatever end results one wishes if they’re careful and cunning in regard to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:59 AM
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My bad. Typically the obvious doesn’t require elucidation but here goes: his first paragraph is sadly correct. Second paragraph is based solely on probably sour grapes, definitely anecdotal evidence and a flat out lie (tutorial mode). Third paragraph really doesn’t make much sense beyond word salad. He’s trying to assert men must give full effort into everything to make it, which just isn’t true. Very few people on the planet operate this way. It’s just a nonsensical statement w/ no basis in rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:43 AM
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Ah yes, when all else fails and someone calls u out on your logical fallacy, insult them because you know you have no valid argument
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:05 AM
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Clearly not if you’re attesting the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:04 AM
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Lol, having standards does not a sheep make. You are not the end all be all of knowledge and refusing to kneel at your lazy grasp on reality hardly a sheep makes. Get in touch with reality dude
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:11 AM
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Trans. I lived 27 years as a boy and the last 13 as a woman. I’m uniquely positioned to understand what is and isn’t fair to say about either sex. Many men on here just seem to be looking for a punching bag. Irl, I’m sure there’s just as many women with the same flaw, but I do think this subreddit contains more male redditors than female, which skews certain peoples expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:09 AM
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Just do you and don’t hold grudges. Understand that what’s for you will find you if you’re true to yourself. Understanding this is a master key and it’s far easier to focus on feeding your own soul then trying to hopscotch to meet the expectations of others
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:33 AM
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Just stating the obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:29 AM
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Lol, pretty sure the majority of people are going to agree anecdotal evidence doesn’t make a case. But be mad in your bubble I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:29 AM
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There is no argument, correct. You’re living in Plato’s Cave. I can’t tell you nothing, so be wrong, it’s fine
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:27 AM
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That's fine to refer to it but anecdotal evidence does not a general picture make. So it's a pointless reference point that does nothing to refute OPs argument directed to a subset of men with extreme victim mentality Ps I don't know, I don't remember you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:06 AM
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This is just a bleak false world outlook to chain yourself to. Sucks, I actually feel bad for you (but not for the reasons you'd want me to)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:03 AM
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I think you just broke his brain
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:01 AM
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You're exactly who OPs post was meant for and still oblivious. How ironic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:00 AM
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Loads of men in here choosing their battles so poorly. "No, mam, I clearly have every right to piss and moan. Women must admit to having it easier if I'm to even to try to expend any effort in this life at all, alas." If that's how u really feel please get used to sucking dick and getting treated like shit by the men of your consciousness tier and lower. Check back with us in 10 years and tell us how you feel then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:58 AM
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M2F is smoother only bc medical advances haven't achieved an effective bottom surgery again. You're not trans so please don't act like this is a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:54 AM
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Wow, what a clueless comment and probably not even factchecked
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:52 AM
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I'm not confused in the least. I just don't know why you've shifted your argument to unrelated things I have no interest in correcting bc they aren't incorrect like your original point was
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:14 AM
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The fact you have to bring up things like "being in a position to help others" and "everyone should have something to contribute to the world," to support a wholly unrelated argument demonstrates you cannot validate your original point on its own merit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:03 AM
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No, my point stands. Your last paragraph isn't untrue but it also doesn't support your argument nor invalidates mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:59 AM
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I think you just highlighted your own teaching moment. You are a person who cannot comprehend life w.o the validation of others. You've probably lived in this bubble your entire life and never realized it. This is why knowledge of self is so critical but it requires being honest w. Oneself and addressing the things we're ashamed of in addition to the things we're willing to broadcast to others. But if you can get there, you'll break through the bubble and cease operating from a position of emoti…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:40 AM
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I think truly confident people tend to be kind bc they're not operating from the position of lack that unconfident people (such as the person who feels he must feel superior) are. Imagine what we could do with a world of truly confident people in touch with themselves...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:33 AM
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Completely wrong though I see how you got there and I'm sure otheres have too. What you described, needing to feel superior to other men, in order to feel confident is the most beta thing I've ever heard. In other words your confidence depends on others. Having true confidence comes from knowing yourself. If you know yourself, then you can block out the noise and concentrate on sustaining yourself bc you know what makes yourself tick. Most people don't have this figured out and instead disregard…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:29 AM
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Hence
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:46 PM
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Negative purple. I think attempts to address unresolved societal issues between men and women from the starting point of men & women is mostly pointless. While conscious communication is always beautiful, we weren’t raised in a society that values, teaches or understands consciousness. If we lived in a more enlightened society (essentially live and let live bc all impulses to commit atrocities would be transcended) there’d be peace, respect and understanding between men and women by consequence …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:42 PM
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Maybe the personality in question is falsely overestimating it’s own greatness. Bothe men and women are hardwired to value physical attractiveness, but unlike your hypothesis, PA is hardly the only qualifier women consider. Which should be wholly obvious but some of you OPs are so obsessed with this imaginary, unimportant, useless blame game when in reality the only person worth improving is yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:35 PM
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Who cares? It's not a women-specific flaw. You're just salty
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:28 PM
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Lol, another irrational, pointless and specious "my life sucks so I hate wamenz now" post
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:16 PM
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Lol, another irrational, pointless and specious "my life sucks so I hate" wamenz now" post
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:16 PM
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Of course not, however, 'pussy' and 'feminine' are both derived from the feminine principle so there is plenty of overlap to understand OP in context. While it is sad being called a 'pussy' is considered pejorative in a male dominated society, if you look past the pejorative nature of the word, it evokes thoughts of daintiness, physical weakness compared to men, or interest in traditionally feminine hobbies. To be fair, I think OP was also going for timidity, lack of confidence, initiative and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:49 AM
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Exactly, that's a very important distinction
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:40 AM
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Inhibition can be a sign of suppression and suppression is unhealthy. I think you are very correct, but it doesn't mean those healthy relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:38 AM
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Take a step back. There is the world we live in and then the world we think should be instead. I see the point you're trying to make and while very 'woke' doesn't actually jive with the reality of actual people, hormones and brain chemistry, in general
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:36 AM
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I think you're missing the point. Men and women aren't the same. It's perfectly legit for OP to conclude a man acting too feminine to satisfy women's tastes wouldnt be very popular with women sexually while still personally finding those same qualities attractive in women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:33 AM
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This is sad. Exactly the type of person OPs thread could help. Unfortunately that would require effort and personal responsibility. Egos less than paper thin. Respectfully ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:45 AM
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Yup, you nailed it. Women or men, some people waste years refusing to take initiative toward self actualization or fall for psyops such as the ones you listed, along the way. Instead pointing fingers to answer for all their own fixable shortcomings….
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:42 AM
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Imagine if instead of the having to “jester” for “the queen” while dating, you instead had to “jester” for a world dominated by the opposite sex in every other aspect of your life. Because that’s what women do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:39 AM
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Well they use their hands & back to do that which is of course the only sort of effort that counts in life apparently /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:18 PM
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Entitlement explains a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:51 PM
1

"We can do bad all by ourselves" doesn't mean we necessarily prefer single life but that single life is absolutely preferred to bringing in someone to do bad for me. Thus, standards and vetting and boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:12 PM
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But men and women are different. It's a fact. I guess you could argue that in addition to the copious amount of times men & women are generally different (and thus hold different expectations from others due to those differences), there are times this dichotomy is used in bad faith? But of course then you could use the argument against both men and women, which I understand isn't what you're going for...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:00 PM
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Men in general have horrible tunnel vision
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:36 PM
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It's not disrespect, it's boundaries. Show men any affection, kindness whatsoever and it's enough to make some men fall in love with us. The vetting process is necessary and in a world of inequality where rape, abuse and corruption exist, you don't get to have your complaints validated regarding our boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:57 PM
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You’re personal anecdote and bias does not apply to everyone and everything. Maybe you enjoy the humiliation from women which is why you keep seeking it out rather than broadening your horizons to a larger subset of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:40 PM
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Oh absolutely. Personal responsibility, an end to finger-pointing, a motivating oneself, etc etc are all hallmarks to healthy functioning. There isn’t an animal in the wild who doesn’t understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:24 PM
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Why would I? They have free will, just as you have free will to choose to be affected by such things. There are nice people all over the Internet, maybe stop wasting breath on the ones that hurt your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:23 PM
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That doesn’t mean it’s everyone’s standard. People have free will. There are no standards which aren’t also illusions, ultimately
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:21 PM
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It’s already begun. It is ongoing. It is silent. Most people have no lick of an idea of how their society actually functions, let alone themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:18 PM
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Wow, so the only think keeping you from murder, theft and kidnapping are “standards?” Incorrect. I wouldn’t talk to proudly about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:17 PM
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Honey, there are no standards
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:48 AM
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Oh this thread again. Rather than taking responsibility for toxic behavior,.it's "but mommy, she did it first." Curing toxic behavior is not a game of chicken. You don't get rewarded for passing the buck. The reward comes from healing your own individual toxic behavior and freeing yourself from the minutia that comes with.. Why is this so complicated?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:59 AM
1

They're free to use whatever words they wish and you are free to react to them however you wish. A slur? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:51 AM
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Please don’t lump being a virgin and an incel together. Just bc someone is a virgin doesn’t mean that person is clueless or selfish like an incel. If you’re called a virgin, maybe you’re a virgin. There’s nothing wrong with being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:01 AM
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‘Shamed’ is simply the wrong word to use. Words are words and they exist to imperfectly describe our perception. They’re never going to fit perfect and we may approximate our meaning into words w/ little distortion or at times utilize an ill-fitting word to then stew over for years as the truest meaning of the word will impose its will upon the person self-applying it, regardless of that not being the intention. A word like ‘shamed’ inherently denotes a loss of personal power as it is past tense…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:55 PM
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Everyone can be the object of fun and on level it's good we have the freedom to laugh at ourselves or others. Everyone has struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:21 PM
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Well that’s a poor point bc the character in that movie is clearly the story’s protagonist and as such he ultimately braves and overcomes all the characterized norms to overcome, thus casting that particular virgin and thereby all virgins collectively, in a very positive light
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:40 PM
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Honestly, you should in a very casual way just wire your brain to understand any woman who says that to you is also revealing they’ve thought of being the person to break you through. Take them less seriously than the women who don’t mention it at all and the lack of attention or inability to let it get to you will drive some of them crazy over time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:11 PM
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That’s the thing, it’s not worthy of criticism at all, so please release yourself from that burden. We cannot control others, only ourselves. If you’ve had bad experiences with individuals that echo a societal norm, those people are just being lemmings. Do not compound the issue by allowing this particular vibe to detract from an otherwise positive self-image and motivation for life
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:08 PM
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True. It’s like the elephant in the room and despite it not being discussed actively, you lose social credit amongst male friends who might gatekeep you for it. Unsolicited, but just remember the only gatekeeper that matters is ourselves. If society is broken, it’s up to us individually to ensure our self-image is such that we needn’t break along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:02 PM
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I’m not saying there’s no truth to what you just said but keep in mind 99% of the people who are going to criticize you for that (criticize being the key word here you might want to adopt. No one is shaming you and to use that word to describe your situation only gives your power away) are men. Women aren’t ever going to give you a hard time for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:51 PM
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Your title states “slamming men,” while no one is slamming men for being virgins. The insecurity may begin from a societal expectation but needn’t take on a life of its own in the individual to the point this person is now imagining getting slammed by others for it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:38 PM
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It wasn’t the fishbowl that high school was but yes other people knew. I had a decent circle of post-HS friends still and they all knew about it but have their own lives you know? It’s not the type of thing they would sit their and focus on. Me, however? Omg, yes, I had put much do pressure on myself and the deficit was on my mind 24/7. Societal expectations exist but ultimately remembering that for society to put pressure on us, we have to first allow society to have that much influence on our …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:22 PM
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I didn’t lose my virginity until I was 23 but past high school, I can’t for the life of me remember anyone shaming me for being a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:03 PM
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Yup, it makes up a high amount of upvoted posts and every woman notices what OP just magnified. Ultimately it’d seem a lot of those posts are driven by sour grapes, so its eyebrow-raising to women having those threads so highly upvoted when they’re not even arguments made in good faith to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 02:36 PM
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Exactly why all the cries of foul from men for their plight while comparing derogatorily "women have it xyz" fall on deaf ears. They literally have no clue
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:36 AM
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Yes, men have it tough. No, you don't get sympathy for it by putting down women Figure out if you can find any way to be happier, more powerful nd more confident without expecting society's labels/ expectations nor women to change for you to have that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:40 PM
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If women didn't have that going for them, in a society that already is dominated by masculine indoctrination, women would have nothing to even the scales. This is like stating that mice have an advantage over men because in the vacuum of whiskers, mice have a greater advantage. We can jumble the game if you like. In fact we intend to do exactly that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:47 PM
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"Most" still exists in the possibility space, however, since his anecdote also doesn't disprove "most." It's been my anecdotal experience as well fwiw
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:32 PM
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At the end of the day, the sex drive of men is responsible though. So it's simply "the fault" of genetics if you must assign blame. To support the paradigm you'd like to see, men would first need to stop throwing themselves at women like skin products at a shopping mall kiosk
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:17 PM
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In my experience being trans, men are far more critical about outward looks than women are, so if you think it's your looks alone preventing you from meeting someone you'll like, you're probably just being too hard on yourself. Having a personality and story to tell (confidently not smugly) is far more important to us. Good looks are a nice bonus is all
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:11 PM
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When you cross the road do you look both ways first? When washing dishes do you take extra care with the knives? When petting a strange dog, do u approach w/ the back of your palm first for safety? Do you wear a helmet on a motorcycle? Do you pee before leaving the house? Do you brush your teeth everyday? Do you lock your doors or night? Regardless of if you answered 'yes', to each of the above, you can catch my drift. "Live in constant fear" is a terrible and erroneous way to put it and no way …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:42 PM
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Just because a woman is (cold) doesn't mean she's not interested in men or companionship. Continue to be a decent human and act not like you're intimidated by us nor like you're trying to get into our pants. Unfortunately if we even smile the wrong way at a man, it's enough to send a high percentage of men off the rails. Work with us on our interpersonal expectations and we'll start looking at you completely different Edit: "act" is a terrible word choice. Sincerity is Key for long-term happines…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:30 PM
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That would prevent a lot of those men from dating any women bc they themselves as the man may have had more than 5 relationships and several instances of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:14 PM
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It's not gaslighting just because it's something you don't wish to face. Imagine suggesting that personal investment is an optional factor in seeing your life unfold in a manner meaningful and personally gratifying to you. Maybe you're just gaslighting yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 11:20 PM
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Guess you didn’t read the first paragraph applying direct criticism. The purpose of the 2nd paragraph wasn’t to directly contrast OPs argument but to instead provide something for OP to chew on. I thought he could benefit based off the awkward polarity he was attempting to shoehorn
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:47 PM
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Implying a man’s past and/or promiscuity isn’t important to women. Only men can have visceral reactions, only men have emotions. Only women are expected to change /s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:40 PM
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Keep dreaming
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:10 PM
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I agree with your second paragraph up to a point before the final sentence as it’s hard to argue it’s an imaginary untruth when many men in fact do do this. Your first paragraph is a misnomer as that’s not what either of us are saying but rather that it is difficult for some men to see women beyond a sexual object and of course that’s in large part a consequence of our society. It’s certainly difficult for people living within a society to imagine alternatives that don’t present theses within th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:06 PM
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In your opinion it was more useful, which is a very limited sample set indeed. You do not answer for all men but for yourself. I pointed out the non-obvious which was that your answer wasn’t actually an answer to the question at all but rather in evidence a failure to understand the crux of OPs question in the first place. You persist in refusing to acknowledge it in fact, which is fine and of course your prerogative to lack the empathy needed to acknowledge this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:01 PM
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Just one that applied to the question being asked suffices. Listening +1 👏🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:56 PM
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“Yes I can see women as equal bc x” or “no I can’t see women as equal bc y”. Not “well your question is a nonstarter bc to treat you equally I would just need to ignore you.” That answer is a canned one that demonstrates no real thought waS put into it and as such shows disrespect to both OP as well as your own self and ability to consider another persons intent/context and answering honestly without sidestepping the question all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:57 AM
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You answered a question just not her question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:38 AM
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You didn’t but at least I opened your box a peak and you might stand a chance of better comprehending a woman’s point in the future to answer it on the level it was asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:01 AM
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OPs point was that men seem to base their treatment of women on looks and have difficulty seeing women for attributes that go beyond this which may not be a fair criticism of you yourself. I don’t know you, but I wasn’t pointing out that this person replying sidestepped the question entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:41 AM
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So the answer is ‘no’then? Got it. See, the little box from which you’re ardently arguing within the confines of still have you answering the question on an effectively individualized basis as your misapplied point is ‘most will be ignored pending their individualized beingness’. This would all be well and good if it were accurate but what went over your head was my beseeching you to question your own unconconscious generalizations of women and how they differ from your unconscious generalizatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:36 AM
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I think OP was addressing the general platform by which men in general would be generalized as compared to the generalization afforded to women as a category. Absolutely this question can be individualized but doesn’t omit the fact that women can often be subjected to the generic stereotype men afford to women as a class, which is the true crux of OPs point and speaks to the dangers of stereotyping on the whole by all parties
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:18 AM
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You bring up a lot of important qualifying points that often would get lost in a conjecture like this. It’s an honest take and interesting to hear with respect to ‘threshold’. I don’t feel it should be incongruent w/ women’s understanding of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:12 AM
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I respect you for being brave enough to actually consider the question and answer it thoughtfully. I would say we live in a “masculine” society and women shouldn’t feel compelled to live up to the ideals of men to be productive (although of course it would be perfectly natural for some to do so).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:06 AM
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Beside the point and only you know the true answer but have you ever considered whether you yourself are deserving of respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:03 AM
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Refusing to answer the question by being obtuse. Why was OPs question too threatening to think about beyond a canned knee jerk reaction? Respectfully
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:02 AM
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It’s not the appeal of the bad boy but the appeal of confidence. Men just conflate the two as a means of taking a dig at women when the solution is far more simple: find a way to become confident with themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:48 PM
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We should certainly live in a society where people can be free to satisfy their innocent desires and passions without backlash. We still need law enforcement combatting trafficking as well as honesty in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:47 PM
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Who’s enslaving anyone? You poor deluded thing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:56 AM
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Another sad sad boy putting off the opportunity to be a man when it’s so much easier to delude himself into hating women to mask his own failures
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 05:56 AM
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Unfortunately you get what you give and what was the same eye-opener for me once upon a time might be the same for you. Those same awkward cues that’s stem from a place of insecurity and social anxiety put messages out to others that are in no way where you’re coming from such as things like unapproachablility, egotism, hatred, etc etc. Have the women who you’ve met publicly really gone out of their way to ostracize you or have they been the at bare minimum polite but just showed no apparent int…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:06 PM
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You’re not a woman so please save your poorly veiled sour grapes Women care far more about personality than you realize. If you want to be a femboy that’s OK, but you have a lot to learn
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:44 AM
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Literally should be top comment. If every frustrated guy would prioritize THIS, not only would they find someone, they would subsequently find that all their own wants and desires begin suddenly magikallly falling into place for them as well. That’s how difficult this fundamental quality is to find in men. And if we lived in a more enlightened society, it wouldn’t be such a great mystery either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:50 PM
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Because this bombardment only appeals to men It’s almost as if women are different, huh? 9/10 male op’s on this sub just seem to be seeking some ‘gotcha’ flag they can wave over women to explain why their lives suck more Then wonder why they fail at relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:45 PM
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It’s not a competition. Neither gender has it “harder” than the other. This is a nonsensical approach to a perceived problem as it neither addressses nor solves anything of worth. But you are correct in that men can’t fake the things that make a man to a woman who has experience with being played.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:27 PM
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SWIM?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:17 PM
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Who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself? If this is your preference maybe try to be less insecure about other people judging you. You can’t control other people’s reactions but obviously making a pass on a young adult isn’t in and of itself harassment. Is there more to the story here?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:33 PM
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Maybe your inability to comprehend humans being fully human is the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:42 PM
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Funny bc all the men I attract do this and it blows my mind….can no one appreciate silence?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:28 PM
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Noooooo, it’s so much more literal and specific than that and in fact it was men who coined the term, turned it into a mantra and were so oblivious to how ironic it was they went WHOOSH when it became a meme. The “nice guy” is the guy who swears he’s such a catch because of how nice he is but is actually just super inexperienced and hasn’t yet realized they’re no catch so long as they continue to blame others for their shortcomings en lieu of working on themselves and putting forth some effort t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:43 AM
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I love when they show their true colors via the false security their personal viewpoint is some globally acceptable maxim. Why not just learn her love language?? Doy!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:11 PM
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OP is angry and emotional. Hurt people hurt people and one in his position is the last that should be claiming other people are deluded until he looks in the mirrors and works out his own misplaced hostilities
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:17 PM
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This is a bit infuriating to read to be honest. So let’s get this straight….women, who emotionally make themselves vulnerable and connected to men, who later reveal tendencies such as “treating women as disposable,” is womens fault? OP you’re identifying a valid problem, yes, but like so many OPs who have come before, blame the victims. Trust me, these “nice guys” are just as capable of treating women like shit. The problem is systemic and this post is a perfect example of how backwards some men…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:41 AM
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3, 4, 6, 8, and 9 are men’s own fault. But it’s a moot point anyway since studies are make believe and relationship success isn’t determined by which gender suffers more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:50 PM
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If you’re battling for power/onesupsmanship in a relationship maybe you shouldn’t be in a relationship. What you’re actually needing to cultivate are healthy boundaries and since everyone’s boundaries are different, no need to compete with your partner over who’s are more powerful!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:20 PM
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Either you are worthy or you are not It’s not the fault of women that men have taken on imaginary quests no one asked for Stop working so hard to spite yourself It happens on its own when you’re being real That’s how you attract your tribe Release yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:55 PM
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Cool and now that you’ve disregarded easily manipulated statistics go ahead and diminish these so-called “advantages” using the same method. Except you won’t because you’re not a scientist and are just using a lot of words to moan about how hard men have things as compared to women. I don’t think we should complain about men complaining but why is it men find it impossible to complain w/o throwing women under the bus?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:56 PM
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Assuming their own struggles in life are reflective of something women are collectively guilty of Underestimating both the emotional depth/range of women as well as the power of emotions themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:54 PM
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A lot of men in general have terrible personalities as well. “Average and above average” women too. It’s a reflection of how we’re nurtured alongside societal messaging. All intentional indoctrination with agenda-laden precision. There is no way women of any ilk or class are the ‘big bad’, so to speak, nor men, so it’s a waste of energy to lend so much wrath and discontent to any group outside your own self. Rather than pigeonholing and attacking genders, y’all could grow by focusing on the natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:30 PM
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Of course not. OP is simply being cynical and kicking rocks because people in general just fear change. And OP in particular doesn’t seem to want the onus on himself, so he lashes out at a group he perceives as being weaker than himself. Poor guy, honestly. I have compassion for these individuals but they do it to themselves with stinking thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:56 PM
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Translating OP: “I refuse to even entertain the idea of entering the unknown of organizing my life, prioritizing positive habits, and having a purpose-driven life. Of course I can’t accept putting the blame for my cowardice on myself so hmmm, what would I normally blame in this sort of scenario? Oh right! Wamen!! Damn them!! 🤧” 🎻
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 06:26 PM
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Now who’s projecting? Still you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:35 PM
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I mean you can continue to backtrack and divert from my point all you want. I’ll reiterate once more: your ‘proposition’ (is that word less offensive to you than problem?) is in my opinion false. I feel by contrast men generally have just as many ‘unreasonable’ (again choose a different word if you like, I’m not here for a semantically led argument) expectations/standards as men. Now debate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:15 PM
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Read the subject you wrote again. You are proposing a problem and I am proposing that the problem is actually just your false perception on the situation. You telling me to ‘stop projecting’ so that you can continue projecting is silly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:02 PM
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Ad hominems will get you no where in debate. Please look in the mirror
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 07:26 PM
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If men want to understand their struggles they must consider themselves and their own failings, not their off base positions of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:55 AM
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Men seem to be pretty oblivious to all they ask of women. This is why we keep getting OPs who know deep down they are the problem too, trying to manufacture more and more ways to blame women for men’s struggles
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:17 PM
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Girls and men are romantic Boys and women struggle with it The ONLY solution is to find a woman who still believes enough and a man mature, wise & patient enough to jump through all her fair & well-earned hoops and booby traps
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:29 PM
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Demands empathy via ad hominems The hypocrisy is fully saturated in this one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:00 AM
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Translation: “I’m hot so how dare anyone turn me down” Then u have other anons, stating they’re “ugly” or “mid” and women only go for chads We have yet more anons swearing up and down that women don’t care about a guys emotional stability level and aren’t looking for that in a partner. Just unblind yourselves please. Women are not men. Stop gauging your expectations of us based off how u think. We’re just different from u and that’s worth exploring
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:18 PM
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I’m sorry you misinterpreted my response. You misunderstood it entirely. Feel free to try again. In the future, I will consider new ways of explaining this olive branch toward better union between the sexes that might be understandable by a greater scope of men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 04:09 AM
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Thank you for proving my point. When it’s something important to u that u want to talk about, then that’s different bc what u have to say is important. We’re expected to listen and align. There must be balance if both genders are too succeed in having their needs met.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 01:35 AM
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Not a pity party just a societal consequence. It’s self evident if you analyze history. Although things are changing it still takes a few generations for new progress to take seat and overrule the pattern of subjugation and limited freedoms for women as compared to men rooted in our past. It’s still ingrained in the social memory complex today to expect the woman of the 50s, although things are changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 01:33 AM
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I’m certain there are some women you can absolutely apply this to too but more often than not it’s the woman who’s being asked to sacrifice and compromise more than the man. That’s OK. The problem comes in when only one partner is compromising and the other doesn’t really reciprocate at all. We know this is systemic by our cultural cliches, for example that women “nag” men and “men tune out women while they talk.” See the hypocrisy? When women ask for something to be done, it’s considered negati…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 01:58 PM
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Devils advocate I think the average man in blind to all the maintenance he requires. When a woman enters a relationship w/ a man it seems deep rooted into the consciousness of the guy that she will - love taking on all his interests, recommendations, and advice - be available to him during all his free time - serve as a listening ear & emotional support - fully get to know them (minus their shadow) & understand their journey - won’t require any lifestyle changes on his part whatsoever. - etc I’v…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 02:25 PM
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When there’s genuine mutual trust and respect among all parties involved
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 02:22 AM
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Red pill gets a bad name due to the political implications and whole fake news propaganda stuff coupled w/ social issues a red piller may or not ascribe to. Real simple, the value in red pill is helping oneself, freedom, personal responsibility for ones actions and taking personal responsibility for ones own happiness. It’s really just common sense, but in order to get people to subvert their own common sense, we’ve got to call it red pilll 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:42 PM
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This is absolutely true as well. Oof, there’s been some bad ones, but can never tell until the clothes are off
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:38 AM
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You are 100 percent right about appreciating good lovers. I like to lead w/ sex in relationships as not to waste my time w/ someone who isn’t compatible Source: am high n-count woman
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 09:36 PM
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Haha not the point I was making at all. You are perfectly free to be friends w/ whoever you want to be friends with. The simple point I was making is that if you want to do better in your romantic relationships with women, having female friends would help you with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 06:56 AM
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I don’t know but I think some of the sexually overactive ones are possibly daring to consider leaving their bedrooms and basements……..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 02:25 AM
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A proportion of guys act like it’s torture to listen to women speak about things that interest them so this thread should serve as a nice shock to the senses of all the “nice” guys out there who think it’s women’s fault they struggle to enter relationships. They never want to hear it’s their own dismissal of women (beyond the physical and beyond the realm of what they can do for men) that might be magnifying the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:41 PM
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If you don’t value having female friends bc they provide “no inherent advantage” over male friends than you don’t consider there is anything you can learn from a woman that you couldn’t learn from a man. So in essence you’re exactly the sort of person who could benefit from a female friend. Women are not men and by having a female confidant, you’d actually understand other women better who you might like to date. I don’t think there’s anything nefarious in what OP said and to you, it should stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:36 PM
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I mean I’m trans, not a special snowflake but it’s worth mentioning it’s a little offensive this argument. Just another variation on men complaining how much picker women are than men. Just because men are willing to sleep with people on physical attraction alone doesn’t mean women feel that comfortable immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:00 AM
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Thank you for reiterating the exact point I was making. Take your upvote :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:22 PM
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You reap what you sow with a low-value, misinformed comment like “gaslighting.” You can shell game the debate all you want but it only comes off ass you not wishing to debate the point itself. If you consider every opinion that doesn’t align w/ your own to be gaslighting, that’s the epitome of entitlement. Enjoy your echo chamber
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:59 PM
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I guess in your world of mental gymnastics. Not what I said though, so you’re communicating alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:48 PM
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Quite an accusation. I’m so sorry that my perspective makes you feels so threatened. I guess it some sense of entitlement you must be experiencing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:31 PM
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I wouldn’t get stuck on semantics that’s just distraction. The point stands, just trying to provide you a different perspective on your own bias
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:23 PM
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“The anger comes from the sense of entitlement many but not all women seem to have.” But thanx for the downvote 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:08 PM
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Funny, I routinely see this anger come from the men folk and not so much the women. It’s almost as if it’s a matter of perspective and no one can make the general case one gender is superior to the other……hmmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 02:49 PM
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How common is it for men to forget romance, ignore their wife and insist upon themselves after marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:06 PM
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Yes in all cases
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 04:06 PM
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Practice makes perfect and the lack of it makes imperfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:08 AM
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This is true it is. I did harken it to a biological imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:18 AM
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None of the above your highness /s Appalling people are going to attract other appalling people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:04 AM
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And next question: who hurt you? I know it was a woman but which? Just pretend you’re laying on a long couch and tell me all about how inferior to men women are….
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 10:15 PM
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So! For those keeping score: he openly admits to being in a relationship w/ a real life woman. Has had enough casual sex prior to her to brag about it and yet, women are only attracted to Chads. Chad is that you? Of course men and women are equally capable of wrong but your generalizing women’s motives as Chad seekers demonstrates a cynical view on women. You can tell me every detail of you life honey, it doesn’t change the score you’ve demonstrated here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:56 PM
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See but I never said that either. Women just like men are capable of both light and dark. You just hear what you want to hear. Your poor girlfriend,. All your casual partners dodged a bullet. Enjoy her while you have her 😉 (or better yet, appreciate her)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:37 PM
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OP is the voice of reason and can see things objectively. The top comments are all basically saying the same conjecture: that in those cases women are settling w/ a “provider.” So in these men’s opinions the majority of women do not care about love nor romance nor compassion nor emotional fulfillment nor happiness nor passion nor etc etc etc That’s r/NotHowWomenWork It’s in our DNA that men are the hunters-gatherers who do the “providing” of resources while the women are “provided for” and focus…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:23 PM
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Are we talking about normal men or women or are you presenting that your woman-hating self is deserving of the upper 10% of eligible women to any measure? The 30%? Where do u stand at eligible and salty bachelor? Taking swipes at my being transgender is just another cog in the pattern of your very low emotional intelligence, dear heart. You would think b4 u begin blaming women for your own shortcomings that you would have chosen to first do your part to be the least bit attractive to the opposit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 08:44 PM
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Ah so you’re trying to say that I, a person who has identified as being female in my earliest childhood memories into today, that has lived as a woman full time for 12 years and been on hormones for 11 has no more insight on women than you yourself. Let me give u the good hard truth despite your allergy to it: surmising women’s attractions to “chad” (as opposed to a more representative spectrum that includes an underlying requirement of emotional maturity respective to the woman’s own level) is …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 07:21 PM
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Ah ok, so let’s hear it. Yes, I am transsexual. So now that you’ve told us you know everything about the inner workings of women, please go ahead and expand to transsexuals. This should be good…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:43 PM
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Sure. You’re over here as a man trying to tell women how they feel inside and what motivates us. But I’m the delusional one 🧐
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:26 PM
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Shows how much u know about women. Again, women are not men. Stop trying to apply male logic to female motivations. You haven’t a clue w/ a response like that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:16 PM
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Sorry, reading comprehension is fairly easy to measure I’m this context ✅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 05:55 PM
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Yup! This is done on purpose to bring men and women out of alignment. Everything you see on TV to varying degrees is placed there for the purpose of brainwashing. You’ll also notice things like nerds getting bullied, the cool kids are often the losers who don’t focus on school, a lot of simping, aggrandizement of modesty and turning the other cheek, etc. They want you weak, puffy, complacent, and fighting amongst ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:47 PM
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Exactly. Because if we’re going to be expected to give away our very souls god forbid you pay for dinner while out on dates. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:36 PM
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You have a lot of anger toward women and it’s clouding your judgement. I hope you gain the perspective you need to overcome this self-imposed handicap
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:37 AM
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You’d be surprised. Some guys like to think they’re nice and good people, but they’ve been indoctrinated by society to expect certain things of women that they wouldn’t be willing to offer themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:36 AM
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But it’s not women’s jobs to give men opportunities. It’s not “average looking men” who are missing out. It’s unmotivated, uninspired, undeveloped men who are. It’s mens own responsibility to put themselves out there and spend their time in the present wisely. These are the things holding these men back, not women. These men don’t even need to be in relationships to improve their dealings with women. They can join clubs and groups and get to know women there. It might be nice to make friends w/ …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:27 AM
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I mean women sacrifice on looks all the time. We might want it all but that’s not even an option. If You can get me an emotionally well-adjusted man then you were giving me the rarest requirement I need. Anything else after that matters a great deal last
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:12 AM
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You’re projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:10 AM
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I’m not saying men like that don’t existThat more experienced women can also spot those guys a mile away. Inexperienced guys don’t know their bad behaviors yet because they’ve never had to be called on out on them before
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:10 AM
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The fact that you are rationalizing your bad behavior and blaming others demonstrates that you’re exactly the nice guy trope you think you aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:08 AM
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I’m not going to change your view. I think you’re already correct. Unfortunately society has gone to great lengths to suppress women’s sexuality to the point that it’s policed by women themselves. I also agree that pair-bonding isn’t for everyone. That being said, enlightened women will still expect a degree of emotional intimacy and vetting for crazy b4 consummating and men should never expect sex from women in any context.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:47 PM
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Is that the reality or just perception? Many of those same guys expect the woman to settle down on his terms. Compromise is fine so long as they’re not the ones needing to alter their own lifestyles. I’m not saying this is you but it’s a prevalent thing and indicative of control issues that society brainwashes men into thinking they’re entitled to. Ultimately women want to find a man they’re willing to submit to but it can’t be entirely on his terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:27 PM
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Right? Lay that hammer down 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:25 PM
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Funnily enough I went the opposite way. For me now it’s all about hookups and not even considering the guy long term unless he was good in bed. I guess it makes all the sense in the world that seeking something long term would be more difficult. My last serious guy wanted me to invest in him but wasn’t willing to give me the same courtesy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:11 PM
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Ya true. I hope you find what you’re looking for and I like when guys have healthy boundaries. Always a great sign. Do u feel good about your dating prospects right now or still discouraged somewhat?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:42 PM
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Right, he was ostensibly perceiving that women base attraction strictly off looks (and earning potential) so I corrected this. If in similar fashion you were attempting to “correct” me you should have used a better argument than a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:38 PM
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Yo I don’t blame u! It’s crazy how the universe works sometimes but I think u made the right choice. Had u gone a long with it, it’s analogous to telling the universe “it’s ok for people to treat me this way.” By demanding better in your expectations, you can welcome in more conscientious energies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:36 PM
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Not necessarily that they’re not good enough. It could be for a whole host of reasons. We may not have time, we maybe engaging with others who made a greater effort or messaged first. Lots of reasons. Impatience is a sign a guy might not be emotionally well-adjusted so a lot of guys do themselves in before the girl even has an opportunity to read the first msg
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:20 PM
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Well looks (and earning potential) have been the only things you’ve cited thus far. And yes, we may do things that you might categorize along those lines as part of our vetting process (or simply as a consequence of having difficulty keeping up with demand)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:41 PM
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That’s correct in a vacuum but understand women don’t perceive mates the way men do. We’re not distilling u down to numbers based off physical attractiveness. If the “5” as you call her rejects you, maybe it’s not because of your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:22 PM
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And those average people aren’t being put on hold bc they’re not chad. They’re being put on hold bc they haven’t done the work required to be sought after (which ironically is more often than not self work)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:14 PM
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Many emotionally mal-adjusted men think they are well-adjusted. For example, This lack of self awareness is where the ‘nice guy’ trope comes from. Be it from the guy initially starting contact to his reactions to the woman’s responses to his mating ritual there is plenty of material there to demonstrate to women whether a man is healthy emotionally or not. And just because a man can squeeze a first date out doesn’t mean he won’t reveal himself during that first date and not get a second. Experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:04 PM
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Mine was a very appropriate response. Your premise was that women live in “fantasyland” due to their high expectations of physical attractiveness and earning potential. I replied in order to correct the wrong-thinking and provide you with the standards actual women have. In a way your comment elucidated a sort of ‘defeatism’ that isn’t necessary for you to continue to hold onto. It’s better that you know the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:48 PM
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Men who don’t do these things often wear it like a hat for all to see. If I’m working all day and come home to messages from a man playing the victim bc I haven’t responded yet, that’s just one example. Women can be extremely perceptive. These men (and women) who are emotionally stunted are hurting and often want others to hurt too. These are just some of the signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:39 PM
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They will be confident in their own skin and won’t presume their baggage onto others. They will have healthy things going on in their lives that genuinely helps them to feel fulfilled. They aren’t looking for a partner to make them happy, they’re already happy and seeking another person to share that happiness with. Women are attracted to confidence and self-determination perhaps more than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:37 PM
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First off it’s a lack of emotional intelligence that repels women. A man who is emotional intelligent doesn’t blame others for his misfortunes or faults. This person understands he is responsible for his own happiness and therefore pursues those things he’s most passionate about w/o concern of what others think. This resulting confidence and self-actualization is EXTREMELY sexy to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:32 PM
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Basically I’m refuting your entire argument as a false premise due to ur being focused on looks when that’s secondary to what attracts women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:05 PM
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I mean that’s a pretty cynical and incomplete view on it. It’s more like both men and women grow up not truly understanding what they want bc we don’t as a given understand ourselves. Women can be wildly attracted to what u may deem ugly guys simply because they are confident and emotionally grown. It’s not settling in that context, it’s more like being attracted to the best guys out there. Perhaps men have difficulty seeing it this way due to the low value they may place on emotional soundness …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:03 PM
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It’s not that you did use that word but I’m attempting to demonstrate to you what women actually want as opposed to what you are assuming we want
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:58 PM
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Nor can women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:57 PM
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She absolutely is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:57 PM
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No, you’re absolutely right, people do settle and therefore those people are limited by result of not having enough faith in themselves or others. I don’t feel it’s healthy, but it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:52 PM
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No I never said that but it says a lot about you that you’d attempt to pigeonhole my comment into something to be ridiculed. Of course EVERYONE should be working toward emotional growth. You are not a number, you are a person. Women do not perceive you the way you think they do. Women are not men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:50 PM
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Another example of men projecting their physical wants onto women. Women are actually looking for more than just the physical. The fact u decided to take a swipe at OP based on your limited scope of women only demonstrates ure one of those men to be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:47 PM
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I think you’re assuming women have huge standards but this is false. We’re out here trying to avoid toxic behavior like the plague (the root of toxic behavior is seeking happiness outside oneself) and we’re left to choose from the valuable men remaining after that. We wish we had more options but a lot of guys are super emotionally manipulative and the less experience these men have with women it seems the more prone to this toxicity they are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:44 PM
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You can’t control anyone outside of your own self and that’s true of everyone. You saying you’re at the mercy of women isn’t accurate. You’re at the mercy of yourself and how willing you are to spend your precious time on being your best self
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:41 PM
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Women don’t look at potential partners the way men do. Often times men’s complaints boil down to them wanting women to perceive partners the same way men do. This is why so many complaints seem to revolve around “chad,” looks and money. Men may perceive looks as the end all be all of whether they’ll hook up or not but women are not this way. And as we grow and mature our physical standards really go out the window anyway if we can find that one guy who’s not an emotional man child, can share, re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:37 PM
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I don’t think this is true and hasn’t been in my experience. It’s a pretty bleak outlook to have and wholly unnecessary as it’s an illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:33 PM
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I don’t think holding out for an emotionally well-adjusted man is living in fantasyland. It’s definitely hard bc society goes to great lengths to stunt men’s emotional growth. But instead of getting fired up by society and using that as fuel to transcend those limitations, many men choose the lazy route and get fired up against women instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:32 PM
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Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:29 PM
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I think fulfilling your libido is something that transcends one’s culture. But I see what you’re saying. Your cultures helped you to suppress your libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:32 PM
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This is exactly right. You can be a very mature person yet still be in some capacities: a people pleaser, a keep up with the joneseser, a caring what other people thinker. At some point, however, some people just hit their last straw. They say ‘fuck it’ and decide if they can’t have the bare minimum of their needs met by other people, they’re going to instead redouble their focus on doing that for themselves. Which is then EPIPHANY bc DUH we should all being doing that bc truly we are the only o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:29 PM
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I’ve slept with a guy 5’10 but skin and bones. It was very uncomfortable in bed. If I were to imagine a relationship with him and us out and about I’d be totally happy with him. However, physical intimacy is so important to me. If I was skin and bones too, it prolly wouldn’t have been as painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:22 PM
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Best of luck with the continued projection of your insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:32 AM
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Gee you just demonstrated the ultra rare “whooshed whoosh.” How ironic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:08 AM
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Cool! Well since u agree with me, best of luck. You can’t even begin to understand the amount of distortion u have in your mind about women. Today’s a great day to challenge those illusions and beginning working on yourself😉
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:02 AM
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And yet here we are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 12:36 AM
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Not at all and I’m sorry u took it that way! I’m just a master of cause & effect. Sometimes it helps to hear the blunt truth, even if it hurts
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 11:32 PM
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I’m good, be my guest
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 11:00 PM
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Projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:11 PM
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That’s why you’re sad and alone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:09 PM
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Herp derp women are so vain. But if women are vain, then what do u call men? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:08 PM
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It’s convoluting the question bc she doesn’t agree with you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 10:19 AM
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Projecting male tendencies onto women. Whatever u have to tell yourself to avoid self improvement huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 10:16 AM
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This should honestly be top comment. A lotta guys lack self awareness and think women are stupid by default. Then get mad and discouraged when it turns out we’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 10:15 AM
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No the majority do understand this and that’s why any given guy attempting this will be ghosted far more often than engaged with. Honestly guys could do much better w/ women simply by giving women more credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 10:13 AM
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OP doesn’t get it. It’s about confidence and a guy who lacks it is prone to being even more toxic than the “bad boys” they think they’re competing with. If you’re out here blaming women for your lack of results, you’re as beta as they come.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 10:06 AM
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Thank u. Can’t please all the people all the time so step 1 toward a healthy life is pleasing yourself. Even the shadow side we think we need to hide from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 12:40 AM
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This is only true if you’re a person constrained by the demands and roles you perceive are dictated by your peers and society. If you are however your own fully accepted multifaceted individual, these imaginary constraints will hold no power over u and the resulting sexiness of being comfortable in your own skin & fully integrated is gonna be irresistible to those same peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:46 PM
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It’s not. It’s very much it’s own thing. It’s funny how hard it is for men to understand why personality would be so important to women and that’s a huge part of the problem. Just because men zero in based on looks alone doesn’t mean women (who have been burned so many times) are just as eager.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:43 PM
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While victim mentality, poverty mindset and stinking thinking prevent those men (and some women) from doing anything to improve themselves (but instead blame others). What wretched security blankets…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:29 PM
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I was his Uber driver. We are so compatible in every area but sexually therefore we’re in an open relationship where I have the opportunity to satisfy my high libido by having copious sex with strangers I meet online. It’s an ideal existence
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 05:31 PM
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The fact that you actually believe that helps to illustrate the great divide that exists between women and your perception of women. Instead of blaming women, look in the mirror and be a better man
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 12:46 AM
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How do u think we learn to spot them? Only Athena was born fully formed armor and all so it’s silly to assume acquired skills would prevent challenges that occurred before the lesson
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 12:44 AM
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We can see red flags a mile away. The reason might seem insignificant but that’s irrelevant. Risk management is essential when considering men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 09:55 PM
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Ok OP I’ll bite. I think that you defining shallowness entirely on outward appearances and physical things should ironically tell you everything u need to know about which gender is more shallow, on a sample size of one. Most men haven’t the slightest clue to the emotional depths of women and are thus by default more shallow than women, in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:02 AM
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r/cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:19 PM
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“But she started it!!!!!” 🙄 “nice guys” feel entitled to us, then get mad after finding out they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:03 PM
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Oh boy… It’s not a numbers game first of all. It’s a be yourself and accept people who demonstrate some glimmer of hope (just like women do). You seem to have a very skewed opinion of how many honest, genuine, good-natured & compatible options women actually have. Just satisfy your own innocent hopes and desires without expectations. The rest works itself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:16 PM
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Right. It’s not that we should treat people “like shit” to get what we want but that we should have enough self esteem and realized self actualization within ourselves that we don’t jerk, bend, twit and tick upon the mere actions of another. Our subconscious minds can read desperation, falseness, etc, so we’re going to be more attracted to the self-respecting asshole than to the lying simp. But give me an honest self respecting king who’s confident in his masculinity over either of those knuckle…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:47 PM
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I mean it’s a reductionist comment to be sure but not without its truth. Women are guilty of this too and naturally: it’s the push pull way of the universe. Still this comment emerged from a post about a man admitting he never loved-loved his wife of 30 years and still pines for his x who was a “terrible person,” so what reaction do you honestly expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:59 PM
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Time to step up your game, “undesirable men”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:59 PM
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Sucks for u
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 12:20 AM
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You’re projecting and can’t back up your boasts. Congrats u played yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:06 PM
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Such a pure, free, and unburdened an existence to take up the responsibility and conquer the challenge 💘🙏🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:37 AM
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Lol right as if you didn’t begin with an accusation. Back up your shit dude! You said something: I called your bluff, turn over your cards! 😆😆😆😆
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:30 AM
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Totally agree and super healthy to do that. People who fall to fast often have a scarcity mindset going in bc they don’t respect their own value enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:12 AM
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There’s an obvious difference: One is an example of the other. Lick my face is within the Domain of ‘no attraction’. There now you have the math too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:08 AM
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So she gave you one particular example out of many examples she might have chosen to further elucidate her position for you. Meanwhile here comes you trying to pigeonhole her to that one statement as if it’s end all be all of her position. Why can’t you just accept the fact that she won’t pursue people she’s not attracted to or doesn’t feel a spark for. Whoever it is in your life that hurt you: forgive them. It’s very possible you have only been looking at things from your own selfish desires an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:08 PM
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I think you’re lost in your own semantics if you’re going to try appealing to absurdity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:37 PM
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As is perception
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:36 PM
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I asked first. Go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:34 PM
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OP is doing his best Eeyore impression clearly stating: “well, I could make myself more attractive and put effort toward maintaining a “good” relationship but I perceive that women have so many more options than me that even if I do that she’ll probably still be texting other guys and looking for the next best things, so instead of the self improvement I teased at, I’m going to instead complain on Reddit.” If you didn’t get that the first read, read it again. Having options isn’t the boogeyman. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:12 PM
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Trying to play gotcha on semantics by splitting imaginary hairs on words and phrases simply bc you don’t like someone else’s well-earned life choices is trolling at best. But probably gaslighting. She was consistent w/ her message throughout.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:04 PM
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We’ll see. But good luck. Mutual respect is a huge part of forming lasting relationships, so I hope you can find an equal to share eachother’s happiness with. If you try to find happiness in another person w/o first finding it in yourself, that’s doomed to fail. So treasure the times you’re out of relationships too and don’t run from the internal healing work we all need to maintain
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:02 PM
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She didn’t backpedal at all. She’s simply not changing her stance. She was patient enough w/ your contention to re-word and re-explain herself in a way you might be more willing to understand. She did not owe u this yet further explained anyway. It’s not that she’s backpedaling, it’s that u want to be right about something for which you are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:58 PM
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I think this is fair but women don’t generally crave sex as men do. We’d generally like genuine emotional intimacy but many men don’t know how to provide that and those who try are often gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:54 PM
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ITT
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:51 PM
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How about just be healed, non-toxic, and respect her? But no, thatd be spinning plates
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:50 PM
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And then a year into that relationship when you meet another woman who does give you a spark, what then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:48 PM
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You’re projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:46 PM
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You’re being a gynormous troll simply because she has standards. It says much more about you than it does her. Maybe instead of trying to change people, you should respect them: then watch your relationships improve
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:45 PM
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You are so patient with people trying to change you w/o truly taking the time to understand where you’re coming from. They seem to assume you’re the problem and are trying to fix u. Don’t lower your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:42 PM
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Which is pretty one-dimensional if you think about it. Every human has a shadow self they hide from the world. You can’t blame women for wanting to get to know u on a deeper more comprehensive level apart from sheer attraction. Yes, men are more prone to do the opposite but it’s not something to be proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:39 PM
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I can vouch that every bad kisser I gave a chance to went nowhere. Every kiss that didn’t result in sparks also went nowhere. I think it’s funny after truth conquer wrote up quite a bit about her background which could of shed light, she instead gets a reply looking for something flimsy. No. She just told us what she was looking for and despite it being a very mature and self-aware ask, it’s also very rare to find a self reliant human w/o toxic traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:37 PM
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lol welcome to what women traditionally complain on men for. Balance is a good thing and if you come correct, you’d still be rare indeed. No victim mentality, poverty mindset nor stinking thinking (or be self aware enough to know they’re each our own individual problems to work on). Stand out by understanding you’re in charge of your happiness, she’s in charge of hers and that’s the secret to avoiding toxic relationships where one or both partners dump on the other emotionally or are in addition…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:30 PM
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Lol still can’t define it tho I see 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 03:20 PM
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That’s a broad assumption from someone who doesn’t know what a red pill is
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:44 AM
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That’s a broad assumption from someone who doesn’t know what a red pill is
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:44 AM
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Men play the biggest victims
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:01 PM
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Had to scroll down too far for an accurate description of what a red pill brings to a relationship. It’s not the end all be all of pills but it helps. Source: dated a red pill guy for a year. Now we’re best friends a year later. I’m also a trans woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:03 PM
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Why not be excellent to everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:42 PM
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