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In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:21 PM
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That is irrelevant. The post is about a particular hypothetical situation. And even in your case you don't aim for equality it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:21 PM
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I'm not telling you what to do, it's your life. I'm just asking you what is wrong with my suggestion in your opinion, because you clearly don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:19 PM
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Well you will still have joint money, it will just not be 100% of your money. In this case everybody will have some personal money as well, to be able to have the freedom to buy whatever he wants without relying on his partner to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:03 PM
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My money is his money and his money is my money regardless of income. Yeah but that suddenly sounds very selfish if he earns a lot more than you. that is something we would come together to agree on So hypothetically he might make 10 times more than you but you still want to have an equal say of how he should spend what he earns? It would also be weird Instead of beating around the bush, just be straight up and say that you want a provider husband. Nothing bad about admitting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:19 PM
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NO what he means is the same amount of money from both sides go to the household account.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:18 PM
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That really sounds like a poor excuse to me. Otherwise the lower earner is being punished to pay for the higher earner's lifestyle. But your alternative suggestion means that the lower earner is benefiting from the higher earners money while working less or being more lazy to work, etc. I'm not going to limit the amount of money they can spend on their own happiness The 50/50 contribution is for common family expenses only - you don't need to limit him in any way. He still has his own money whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:17 PM
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How is that fair though? That could in theory lead to a toxic relationship. For example imagine that your husband is very hardworking, spent many years/money at uni, etc. and because of that he earns 200k an year now. Meanwhile you were not that career motivated and prefer to just have a part time job which pays 20k an year. How is it fair that you put all of your money into a joint account if he earns literally 10 times more than you. That pretty much means almost all of it is his money at this…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:10 PM
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Thats still a setup that’s just designed to value the higher earner over the lower earner But so many women fight for equality nowadays, don't they? That is a good example of equality in the relationship finance wise - everybody contributes equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:04 PM
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And what would make you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:00 PM
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But why wouldn't it? You can have a joint account to which everybody contributes equally every month.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 11:58 AM
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but at the end of the day that money legally belongs to both of them And that never ever matters in practice unless you are getting divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 10:59 AM
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LOL how ironical is that considering your flair is "fuck the pastryarchy, I don't knead no man". But when it suits you "We share one account and both our paychecks go into it and 100%". A bit of hypocrisy isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 10:57 AM
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people usually see those of a certain age as just not options at all, no matter their "value" Complete delusion. You only think that because vast majority of women don't have access to somebody who is really high value or don't believe such person would be interested in them. So they don't really consider them an available option. Imagine you are a woman and you meet a man who is literally the man of your dreams. He has all the qualities you've ever dreamed of and much more than that. You also c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 10:54 AM
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Older men are not desirable by default. BUT there are some older men who are high value enough to be desirable despite their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 10:37 AM
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Sure sure. Virtue signaling all over the place. People are fucking selfish nowadays, nobody gives a fuck about strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:57 AM
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The man of my dreams isn’t 10 years older than me, the man of my dreams is close in age to me. What I meant was a man who has all the desired qualities you want to perfection, but is only 10 years older than you. So would you still reject him then purely because of age? I have options besides men and I am also fine being single Are you bisexual or what? You might be fine being single now but who known how you will feel in the future. I can avoid men who only value me for my youth Nobody is sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:54 AM
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If there was only 1 man in 150 million men, I’d just stay single. Yes you definitely will, not even by choice but because there is no way you will find him. And while you might be fine with that, many women are not and they want to have a relationship. why would I want anyone “better” by my own standards Because better is always better. Is that even a question? As I said - you might be happy with him, but you would have been even happier with somebody better. he is almost perfect Delusion. Nobod…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 09:22 AM
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Oh thank you, that's a perfect example that you don't know maths. You got one fucking man, because there were many many others who you would have also liked. Now imagine that there was indeed just 1 man who you would like out of 150 million. Are you so delusional to think that you will be able to magically find this man? Another aspect of your delusion is thinking that's the perfect man for you which is statistically never the case. You might be happy with him, but you would have been even happi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:52 AM
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to discourage creepy older men from hitting on me But you wouldn't mind the man of your dreams hitting on you even if he is 10 years older than you, right? I think I should be getting more valuable as a partner as I age rather than less It doesn't matter what you think, it matters what men think. Like you might think that you should be much more valuable as a partner at 50, but if men don't agree at all, it wouldn't make it easy for you to find a good partner at 50 right? The night I turned 18, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:12 AM
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Eastern EU.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:05 AM
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Why do that rather than finding a hot 25 year old There could be many different reasons. You couldn't think of any or what? Maybe it just happened - the guy wasn't looking for an 18/19 year old necessarily. Maybe the guy is in such environment. For example in my country, in the small towns most girls leave to go to bigger cities after finishing high school. So there are many more 18/19 year olds than 25 year olds. Maybe the guy doesn't like the fact that by 25 the girl could have had accumulated…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:56 PM
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Nobody gives a fuck about what you think. People are free to do whatever they want as far as it's legal. My grandmother got married at 17 and lived a perfectly happy life. She's told me so many good stories and was incredibly sad when her husband died.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:45 PM
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The young ones that are jealous they can't be with him instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:39 PM
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Or to the fact that the sub is full of toxic feminist bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:38 PM
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I have far more experience with young women than 99.99% of the male population And still that's just your experience - something really personal. You can't really speak for the whole male population. It is not good for them and they are not ready for those types of relationships. Again, vast generalization here. So you are saying it's not good in 100% of the cases and it doesn't depend on the particular couple and how the relationship went? Men that specifically target barely legal teens are cre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:35 PM
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pre frontal cortex development is real and visible I don't argue that it's real. I argue that in the last few years of development it will be pretty slow and more importantly the resulting cognitive improvements will be minimal in comparison to factors such as life experience, education, etc. Also the variance between people would be much bigger than this difference - meaning you can find many people who are more mature at 20 than the average 25 year old. The occurrence of mental health issues a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:29 PM
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Not so unlikely if he manages to find good traditional woman to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:24 PM
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Or maybe that's just your opinion because you personally don't like those fundamentals. Apart from fear which is not really a practical problem nowadays anyway (nobody has a good reason to stay in a relationship because of fear), the rest are alright for many people. First don't assume that every single relationship is 100% serious and will end up in a marriage with kids. Most of them are not. So with this in mind, let's check some of your favorite words: Sex - maybe the girl is really into the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:22 PM
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Bruh, stop being so judgmental. Do whatever you want to do and let people do whatever they want to do. Maybe you are an old far trapped into a 35 year old body. Maybe you just don't like much younger girls. Also you are speaking as like all the men who date such young girls are super serious and want to marry them. No - most of them just want to tap some sweet young pussy, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:14 PM
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Worlds apart how? They can be both equally smart They can be both equally intelligent They can be both pretty mature They are both well developed biologically They can both have the same education level They can both come from good families They can be both good people They can be like minded People think that only because a guy has lived 20 more years that magically makes him a different species already. Be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:04 PM
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Bruh, why the fuck everybody cares about this so much. If they are a couple they related to each other somehow. People should watch their own business much more than they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:00 PM
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Their pre frontal cortex is fully developed That's the biggest bullshit argument ever, 99% of the time used by people who have zero understanding of brain biology/function. Life experience difference is a fair argument, but don't think that there will be significant difference in brain development affecting cognitive function between a woman at 22 and a woman at 25. 18/19 year old girls are still children No they are not. They share many more qualities with adults than with children. Ever system…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:59 PM
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we still deserve equal rights and access to opportunities which is what the vast majority of the people argue for And why do people argue for it more and more nowadays? Women have more rights and opportunities than ever. What is still missing to justify all the fuzz?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:40 PM
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not being sure if they like you as a person or what you can provide It doesn't take much brain to figure out reasonably quickly in a relationship which one is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:34 PM
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I do suppose that women who are attracted to wealth are mostly attracted to the possibility of spending that wealth But it doesn't need to be that way. For example a good traditional humble woman might be attracted to his wealth just because they will be set for life and she wouldn't need to worry about working, healthcare, their kids having everything they need, etc. It doesn't necessarily mean that she is attracted to his wealth because she is dreaming of having 5 different LV handbags, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:31 PM
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I'm not arguing your feelings. It's just an interesting topic for me and I'm brainstorming mostly. that wonderful hormone testosterone has quite a few downsides such as confusing fuck and kill I didn't quite get that, but it's a pretty important hormone not only for men but for women as well. women will all tell you the same thin Well certainly not all but many perhaps. And again, I don't argue how they feel, it's just interesting to analyze why they feel like that and possibly think about poten…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:57 AM
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And what exactly was this unsolicited attention? Can you provide details/examples? It's difficult to believe that grown men would be more sexually interested in 12 year old girl than a young adult woman. Not only it's highly illegal but also the vast majority of adult men, except pedophiles which are pretty rare, don't find young girls at such age attractive. On top of that they perfectly know that they can't do anything with you, so it doesn't really makes sense for them to be approaching you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:39 AM
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mostly they checked me out sexually What do you mean by that exactly? Like cat calling or something? Again, I think it's mostly society's fault for making young girls feel like that. It would probably be much better if girls were thought in an appropriate way that it's just natural that men are sexual and might feel some sort of sexual attraction to you, as long as they don't behave inappropriately. Many time it's pretty vague what is appropriate and what not as well. For example a man quickly l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:36 AM
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It's bad that you felt that way. But what exactly did they do to make you feel like that? Were they just checking you out / quickly looking at you? The majority of the cases I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:57 AM
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You didn't like it, or your upbringing/society made you feel like that? As long as they weren't threatening or actually doing anything bad to you, as you said it was probably a simple biological attraction which is just natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:33 AM
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And that was from boys around your age I would guess or slightly older? What's wrong about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:24 AM
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Only a pedophile will be looking at an ugly 12 year old girl in any sexual way. So you are either imagining this because you were insecure or whatever OR you are saying that every man is a pedophile.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:23 AM
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All studies show that women that can't are the minority. What the fuck are you talking about. Here they show that less than 20% of the women can orgasm from PIV only: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28678639/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:59 PM
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Sure smartO, no woman would ever care if you make just 2M a year, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:51 PM
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Most women rate beards as gross and unattractive. That's why most of the famous actors who are found to be most attractive by women have stubbles nowadays? Don't be confusing your personal taste with what other women like. That's proven in studies as well: https://www.mensxp.com/grooming/beards-and-shaving/80168-type-of-facial-hair-women-find-most-attractive.html Men are most strong and muscular 25 and under. Total bullshit. Men are strongest in their early 30s. Another study: https://evidencest…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:45 PM
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Oh so looks wise you mean. And you are not gender biased about this? Let's see if I can list a few points that will disagree with your opinion: Men find the women most attractive in their early 20s (purely looks wise we speak). Women find the men most attractive in their late 20s to early 30s. Both of those are proven in legit studies. That is not unexpected and quite logical actually - women benefit from the youthful look, while men benefit from the masculine look. That's why a woman is already…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:55 PM
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men age infinitely worse than women By what metric exactly? Elaborate. Basically every man is against age gaps when it's a woman he cares about I have zero problems with that, age wise at least. If my daughter has a new partner, I will judge him by his qualities, not by his age, as long as it's all legal. Now, if he is like 20 years older, odds are he wouldn't have the appropriate qualities purely because of aging. But anything sensible like 10 - 15 years it's probably not a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:39 PM
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some men find early 20s women the most attractive Not some men, the vast majority of men. That's been proven in studies. That is of course strictly looks related. is she with her just because of her youth Every sensible man is trying to get a good looking woman. That doesn't mean that's the only quality he cares about, that doesn't mean he will leave her when she hits 30. Not everybody is Leonardo DiCaprio.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:32 PM
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Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:28 PM
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If women enter such gap relationships it must be favorable to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:26 PM
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It's because you were imagining stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:20 PM
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Like I think dating a 19 yo is fucked up. Even you, being more sensible than most of the people here, make such statements. What's fucked up about that? She is an adult, she's finished high school, she is completely ready for a proper adult life. With those things there needs to be a clear border illustrating what's acceptable and what not and the law has defined such already to make it easier for people - that's why we have age of consent. But many people are still not happy with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:18 PM
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Your subjective feelings don't matter, give me some arguments why is it a yellow flag for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:11 PM
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that is why people also talk about power imbalances Some stupid term made up by feminists. Why exactly do you think it's so bad that the men is more wealthy, has an established career already, etc.? It's only beneficial for the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:47 PM
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Fucker, 10% is huge, you were presenting it as it's once in a blue moon. And that's married couples. I bet the percentage is even higher when you include none married LTRs + more casual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:45 PM
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A bit hypocritical isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:33 PM
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Because a lot of them explicitly state they’re looking for that And a lot of them don't. Also you didn't mention this in your comment above? don’t act like you’ve never heard that type of discourse before Yes, I've heard it mostly from toxic feminists. Generally people agree it’s weird and side eye someone looking to date a person that’s in a different stage of life Mostly blue pill women agree on that. idk why this sub acts like it’s such a wild and uncommon take It's not that it's uncommon, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:29 PM
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And if you had anything to say against my assumptions you would have had aerobics boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:22 PM
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Because it’s the principle behind looking for someone with less experience First who says they are explicitly looking for such partner? Second what principle are you talking about? You are stating it as something universally agreed as being wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:39 PM
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What about being with a man with particular highly desired qualities that women want? Because big part of TRP is teaching the men that they need to work on developing those qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:30 PM
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I'd be curious to see your stats for having such claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:22 PM
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I will try to explain it better then. I've seen plenty of people like you who go like "I work out 8 days a week" as some sort of weird proof that they beat everybody else in that aspect. Here is what is the situation with those people most often: A portion of them is exaggerating how much they work out just to make their argument stronger. A portion of them is truly working out many days per week, but their workouts are too easy. That's why they can afford to workout so many times per week. So i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:20 PM
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I understand that is the point, but you could have explained that to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:11 PM
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Bro open your fucking eyes and read carefully what people say before replying to them. The guy literally said: if all men started working harder and looked like Navy seals the female standards would just go up To which you reply: Have you tried? What a nonsense reply is this? It's like you completely ignored the content of his comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:48 PM
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Women care about results, they don't care if you enjoy it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:39 PM
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Well certainly you would need to be visibly attractive as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:33 PM
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Ah, you count a walk in the part as an exercise. Got you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:31 PM
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You may be successful in getting your goals and have all the best qualities in terms of physical attraction, but doesn't mean women/men will like you. On average they certainly will if you have the qualities they are looking for. You don't need 100% of them to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:10 PM
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I work out 6 days a week Most of the comments like this only tell me that people don't know how to work out properly and just waste their time. If you are serous about working out there shouldn't be a reason to need 6 days a week. You are either just fooling around and wasting your time with some easy shit or you are massively overtraining and not realizing it with some hard shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:05 PM
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How can he possible try something that requires ALL men to get in a good shape?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:01 PM
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What makes you top 1% man then? It's not that I disagree with you here, I'm just curious what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:00 PM
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I used that term because I think that fits with their whole image Yeah but you are misrepresenting them to a degree like that, which is not fair. but seem to forget about it when it doesn't fit their narrative But you didn't really give any legit examples of this and I personally don't think that's the case. but at a certain point it is ridiculous to try and argue people should live their lives based on things that will probably never happen Not only it's not ridiculous, but it shows a very impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:04 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:22 PM
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OK thank you for the explanation. Now I will give you my opinion. "alpha male" thing They rarely use this term actually, what they commonly use is "high value men" which is the more accurate and useful term actually. they seem to ignore statistics at times Actually they try to stick to statistics pretty closely. all (most) men cheat given the chance, statistically untrue It's impossible to actually have a legit statistics on this one first because very few men actually have very good occasions w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:05 PM
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And what's so crazy about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:50 AM
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Although I could see RP'ers like f&f and Andrew tate being an exception Exception in what way exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:03 AM
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I would just like to hear some ideas on how to demonstrate your character whiteout being absolutely perfect in all RP parameters. Nobody is saying that, that's just your exaggerated and wrong interpretation of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:02 AM
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You yourself gave several examples which are either not valid for the situation or rare as you said. The idea of the wall is mainly aimed at showing young women that it will be getting more and more difficult for them to find a high quality partner when they age, with the idea for a serious LTR/family. It's obvious that some 50 year woman can always find a grandpa for some quick dick if she wants. Here is a quick summary of what's wrong with pretty much all of your examples: people are dating in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:25 AM
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Cause dem bitches ugly bro. Jeez.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:20 PM
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Damn, that's an interesting point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:18 PM
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That's not only comparing apples to oranges which is pretty retarded by itself, but in this case the apples are rating the oranges and the oranges are rating the apples. Could you make even more nonsense statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:45 PM
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Maybe change your flair to Blue Pill Man cause you are certainly the most blue pill guy I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:32 PM
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Twenty-year-old women tend to find the idea of dating men that age gross That might be valid for some average joes, not for the type of men I described. Don't be projecting your personal feelings to all women. It's seen as weird for him to even be into them. That makes zero sense. Why would it be weird that he is attracted to some young good looking girls? Also it's not a huge difference, both of them are in their twenties. We are not speaking about a guy who is 40 - 50 here. and most simply are…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:14 PM
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It really doesn't go down big-time. Again, the stats show it goes down 1% for every year. I don't know where you take your stats from, but that's complete bullshit. By that logic it will be down only 15% by the age of 50. How many 50 year old women are near perfectly fertile do you think (because 80% is damn good number). Or following the same logic again it's down only 25% by the age of 60. You really believe women at 60 are 70% fertile? Even a simple google search will tell you that is far fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:37 PM
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That's still gross to women significantly younger than him. It depends what you consider significantly younger. We are not talking teenagers here. If the woman is 20 I highly doubt she will find a 28 year old guy gross if he is her type, good looking, in a great shape, established, rich, well-behaved and charismatic, etc. My point is that if the is the perfect guy for her in terms of everything I don't think 8 years of a difference will be the deal breaker for the majority of women. Also being o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:49 PM
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Feminists coming and eating you alive in 3.. 2.. 1...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:20 PM
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Older and established doesn't mean old and disgusting. A man can be established and wealthy at 28 for example. Yes it might not be the norm but such men certainly exist. The problem is they are rare and young women have huge competition trying to reach such men. It's always easier though to pretend and look for excuses rather than admitting the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:18 PM
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they want to enjoy fucking you too lol Older and established doesn't mean old and disgusting. A man can be established and wealthy at 28 for example. Yes it might not be the norm but such men certainly exist. The problem is they are rare and young women have huge competition trying to reach such men. It's always easier though to pretend and look for excuses rather than admitting the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:16 PM
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That's one of the biggest myths ever, often just propagated by women. If you believe that you have no idea how the majority of men think/feel. Sex is so difficult to get for men on average that it feels amazing when you get it and you generally can't wait to get it. Do you even imagine a man saying "Yeah bro I met this girl but she wanted to fuck me right after our first date, it really ruined it for me, I really would have like if she waited a bit longer because she is amazing girl otherwise." …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 01:30 PM
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Yes I agree. I don't think those are applied that often in society though, unless you are some type of a model and that's expected from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:14 PM
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The thing is sex on the first date or just as quick as people in a Woman’s past is often the measure inexperienced or naive men will use to determine if they are being valued Nah, that's bullshit IMO. I have plenty of experience and I'm pretty aware how things are from both gender's perspective. You might think or truly believe that you value the man, but the fact is you are totally aware of what will make him feel valued and happy (sex as early as possible) but at the same time you are refusing…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:05 PM
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Good job buddy, encouraging good girls to become fucking sluts. Such girls are precious like diamonds nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:56 AM
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Unreasonable standards are unreasonable. They are never healthy. Can you give an example of what's unreasonable to you personally and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:51 AM
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Is there actual evidence that men prefer women who fertile Most men want to have family with kids, do you really need evidence for that? Just look around and see what the majority of the people do - they have kids. Those without kids are minority. So if you want kids it shouldn't be a surprise that you need a fertile woman for that. And what is "objectively worse looking"? You experiencing many different effects of aging which are considered not attractive by the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:49 AM
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This is a shallow way of looking at it. Many women are genuinely attracted to success. What I mean is it's not like they don't give a shit about the person and only care about the lifestyle they will be able to afford with his money. For example if a famous actor says he is only getting a girlfriend who can't have any access to his money/resources there will still be a queue of women who want to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:45 AM
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Not all men want kids The vast majority do. Looking at minorities doesn't make your argument very strong, you know? they are just as likely to find their match in the female childfree set Do you realize how difficult dating is for man nowadays under normal circumstances. Now if they are looking for a partner who doesn't want kids as well it becomes 10 times more difficult. But it doesn't matter anyway, those are a small minority. women will pair up early Oh, so you agree with the wall theory in …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:36 PM
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Oh, so the only options she can hope for is some old guys with kids? It's like the dream for every woman - finding a guy with kids so she needs to take care of somebody's else kids. And do you realize how limited her choice is: she can't have younger guys, she can't have same age or older guys who want kids, she can't have same age or older guys who prefer younger women (and here we don't speak those that are after 22 year old, plenty of 40 year old high value guys will try to get a woman who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:30 PM
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They also say it's not gay if balls don't touch. Yeaaaah
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:18 PM
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That's all great but do you see yourself having a family with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:17 PM
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But the huge difference is that women lose their fertility quite quickly after 35 while men don't. And another factor that's often missed is that men can at least get better at something with age. For example accumulating wealth, having own home, gaining status, having better career. At the same time for women it's only going down with age. Yes, they might progress in their career too but no man cares about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:16 PM
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If that's your arguments you have no place in this conversation at all. Women who argue against the wall claim that they are still wanted by men well into their thirties. If you are not interested in having a relationship/family what the fuck are you even arguing about? Go do your thing, it's a free country.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:07 PM
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My 80 year old grandma once said to my female cousin - Make your pick while you are still young dear, otherwise you will be the one being picked eventually. I will never forget this moment, grandma is a wise person. So it seems like the wall have existed for quite some time according to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:02 PM
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But the vast majority are not child free.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:41 PM
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Of course women will not talk about it - it doesn't work in their benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:40 PM
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But The Wall theory is mostly about relationships. And that is what matters more for women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:39 PM
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We have the same exact crappy, but livable salary and the same exact status. But do you know what you don't have? Fertility. After 35 it does down the hill for you and no reasonable man who wants to have a family and kids, even the Home-Depot guy, will look at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:34 PM
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I would want to see something disproving all those studies which show that women's fertility drops down the cliff after 35 and pregnancy/birth defect risks sky rocket. Because after all most men want to create a family and have kids. And you definitely ain't getting a woman older than 35 for such intentions. Here you go, case closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:29 PM
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A woman can do it for you, or you foe yourself Nah bruh, if you like getting your ass busted it's your will. there is a chancw you will cum veey hard on a prstate exam I don't know what twisted fantasies you have but nobody cums during prostate exams. Chill your balls (if you have some).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:25 PM
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and you still have fierce competition Not really because most of the high value men are taken already by this point. So with them being off the marker your competition is less.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:20 PM
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Switch as much as you want lad, I'm straight here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:50 PM
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Sorry bro, not into gay bottom type of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:47 PM
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or 2 minutes of out of body experience You watch too much porn buddy, no man in reality experiences such long orgasms ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:45 PM
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Well that is a pretty shitty sample size you have here to draw any conclusions. Also celebrities with their fucked up relationships (constant divorces, etc.) are not exactly an example of a regular good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:41 PM
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It's not the point if it's the norm or not, the point is that he can afford it because he is highly desired man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:53 PM
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What the fuck is that supposed to mean even?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:55 PM
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What is high value to a woman is someone who she wants and fulfills her needs. Sure, the problem is when you start pretending that what you want is what the majority of women want. And what majority of the women want is evident from what guys they are chasing. You think that women are all one big block and that if someone famous gets a lot that must be all women want. I literally already said that I don't think that. Do you even read?!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:50 PM
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And let the echo chamber continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:47 PM
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15% of adult women are divorced: https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/ 20% of adults don't want to have kids: https://studyfinds.org/1-in-5-dont-want-kids/ We need a subset which satisfies both of those conditions and that would be 3% of the women. So yes, it's fucking insignificant portion indeed. The vast majority of the women are not like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:03 PM
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all women want him and would date him No I never said that. Not all, but many certainly do. And that makes him high value. You don't need all women to be after you to be considered high value. That is stupid and unrealistic - there is no single men on earth who is desired by 100% of the women. The same way there is no single woman on earth who is desired by 100% of men. I don't give a shit how many other people want someone, it only matters if I do. And nobody cares about your opinion or if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:59 PM
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You guys really really want this to be true We are just debating, that's the purpose of the sub. Don't get emotional here. every woman I know who's been single after 40 hasn't had any issues Any issues with what exactly? I don't think you guys have a clue what "high value" is to women. I don't think women have a clue what a high value men is, but there actions certainly show that. High value men are those who are desired the most, that's the definition of high value. For example Leonardo DiCapri…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:47 PM
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More and more delusion coming in. its not like your life ends or even becomes a lot worse That's just an exaggerated interpretation of the idea. In lots of ways it really improves. But not in terms of dating prospects which is the focus of the idea. plenty of men still find you attractive As an absolute number but not as percentage. Also the number of high value men who desire to be in a relationship with you drops a lot. And that's what women care about the most right - high value men. Is it re…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:38 PM
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Do you need a fucking study to realize that women who are both divorced and childfree are not a major part of the population?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:33 PM
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Which rule is that? I couldn't find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:30 PM
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Wait, isn't blocking somebody your personal freedom by Reddit ToS which doesn't break any rules? Actually I couldn't find anything about blocking in PPD rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:29 PM
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Who said that? And what are you arguing actually? Are you saying that her anecdotal low percentage situation is relevant to the broad picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:17 PM
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That's irrelevant though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:14 PM
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You are an exception then, that's not valid for the majority of the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:55 PM
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That's all well said, but women don't work with maths bro, they work with feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:54 PM
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Still the majority are. Exceptions don't make the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:52 PM
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I never understood where people got the idea that at 30 women just become fucking pumpkins. No sensible guy has this idea. You and the OP are highly exaggerating here. You can't deny though that there MUST be some age where women definitely start getting less attractive. Is it 35? Is it 40? Is it 45? It's not a set number, it's a slow transition. But it's a sure transition. Nobody stays at the same attractiveness level forever. Another huge aspect that you women conveniently often miss is that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:51 PM
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By that statement most of the people you interact with are statistically well above average. They are but by this only aspect. Also as we agreed being just above average doesn't seem to be enough. It's going to be different for many women. Then what is the exact meaning of "top 20%" by this logic? It only makes sense if it's used to evaluate particular trait. Like top 20% of the men by income if the focus for the particular woman is money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:15 PM
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Then who is in top 20%? There should be plenty of men in top 20%, because that is literally 1/5 of the men. Most of the people I know have degrees. Also I will appreciate you answering my question above: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/yhi0ke/sure_women_want_the_top_20_of_men_but_is_it/iufxtw8/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:00 AM
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would you write that off as a simple observation I've always been happy to be criticized or even blamed for stuff because I can easily defend my self with arguments, that's never been a problem for me. I will definitely not report such comment towards me as being offensive. I consider than an ugly part of the snow flake culture nowadays. It's a passive aggressive personal attack You realize that the very term "passive aggressive" is pretty vague in many situations (open to personal interpretatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:39 AM
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And you're more than welcome to appeal in modmail and see what the other mods think if you disagree I'm pretty sure that's pointless and a waste of time - the other mods are even more unnecessary stricter than you from what I've seen. I just thought you are always reasonable. I think I'm being quite a bit more lenient than you realize given that this isn't the first time you've been instructed to stop making personal attacks First, how is that an attack? Yes it is personal, but it's a simple com…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:27 AM
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I think I was plenty polite and none offensive in this comment. 100 is the average IQ if you are not familiar with the metric - it's not that I called her dumb or anything. I'm a bit unpleasantly surprised to see such a degree of over-moderation from you in particular. But I guess this is just could be just another example of "They hated me because I spoke the truth" sort to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:06 AM
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Well if you keep adding qualities/requirements that would only mean find a man who has all of those or doesn't have all the negatives will be more and more difficult. It's simple statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:50 AM
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The top 20% is going to be all men together and only the elite are making it. That's the 8+ model looks, the doctors/lawyers from ivy league with the prestigious placements, the celebrities, the trust fund babies... no one ordinary. Wait how is that top 20%. By definition top 20% is 1/5 of the men. The ones that you describe are much less common than 1/5. Also you missed my point. As I demonstrated, being in top 30% in all 5 traits that you initially listed would mean that you are better than 99…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:47 AM
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Eating a chocolate bar takes 5 min max. What time are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:40 AM
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Chocolate is just a snack, it's on top of your normal diet. Who the fuck eats just a couple of chocolate bars a day and nothing else?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:27 AM
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Can't you even do simple maths retardo? 3000 from crappy diet + 2000 from snack = 5000 a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:20 AM
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Bro why the fuck are you even wasting my time, you clearly have no fucking idea about chocolate bars and how big they are. Those ones here are 180g for example: https://m.facebook.com/goodiesbykjhoa/posts/155038792876604/ Just having a crappy junk food diet you can easily get 3000 kcal a day. When you add some snack on top of that like chips, chocolate, etc. you can easily do 1000 - 2000 more. And that's plenty to get fat. Stop wasting my time dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:16 AM
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It doesn't even matter if it's 100g, get 4 x 50g if you wish it's the same total calories you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:02 AM
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That kind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_bar
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:01 AM
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Bruh, 100g chocolate bar is above 500 kcal, that's a fvcking common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:53 PM
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Cause there is pretty good chance you wouldn't be happy like that forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:51 PM
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And another thing that is common sense is that if your diet consists mostly of calorie dense food (as most crappy diets are) it's pretty easy to over eat on it. An additional couple of chocolate bars a day already puts you 1000 kcal surplus. And many people can do much more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:50 PM
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I like the way you think but I don't fully agree with the maths again. The top 20% of men are above average in multiple categories for appearance, fitness, education, finances, and status. I guess an important question is how exactly do you define this top 20%. Obviously we say that those are the top 20% of the men sorted by how attractive are they overall from women perspective. That is pretty vague though and not a strict mathematical definition, because it's not exactly known what traits cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:46 PM
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this is an extremely poor and shallow list of traits What is so poor or shallow about those qualities? It's some qualities which are universally liked by women and that's proven in many studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:27 PM
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They are not in the top 20%. Well, either that or the percentage is actually lower than that. And by the way using BMI to asses healthy weight range is pretty bad, I don't know why they even use it in some studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:24 PM
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It doesn't mean to be the same diet or eating at the same rate. It just means that most of the people have some sort of a crappy diet. But also you are missing another important element - physical activity/exercise. It shouldn't be that difficult to imagine society with super cheap junk food, poor nutrition culture and poor exercise habits combined with sedentary lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:21 PM
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I don't know about that, I've seen slightly different studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:18 PM
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Sure, those are some good arguments, but my point is that not being overweight is normally one of the must haves to be found attractive by women. And if that by itself puts you in the top 20% of men, you've already made it. Obviously to have that we must assume that the top 20% are considered attractive. I will give you another example because it's indeed very confusing maths. Let's assume we have society where 80% of the men are overweight and we also assume that being overweight is automatical…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:16 PM
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Jesus christ 70% of you guys are fatties? Meaning even higher percentage of women are overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:08 PM
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All of that sounds great, but would 8+ inches be too long for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:08 PM
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Then put some fucking effort, find the right man and build a happy marriage. It's not impossible, you know? Following your logic, happily married people are the happiest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:03 PM
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What the fuck do you mean by it being impossible? Hypothetically you can easily have a society with above 90% rate even.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:50 PM
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Yeah but it will be pretty close, since the majority of the bottom 80% are overweight so they are automatically a no go pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:48 PM
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What's a godly dick for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:45 PM
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What are you so surprised about, the situation for women is even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:44 PM
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Yeah but it all depends how competitive the men in the society are. Depending on that it could be really easy to get into those top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:42 PM
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It's like you anecdotal experience is a good proof against what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:36 PM
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if you’re actually talking to me to talk to me, we can keep talking Bullshit, in almost 100% of those cases what she means is "Get the fuck away from me".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:30 PM
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Women have given great advice when it comes to dating so I have no idea what you’re talking about. I don't know what are you talking about buddy, I personally don't remember ever hearing a man say that women give great dating advices. I've personally spoken with multiple girls that I know well on the topic and every time it's a fucking disaster. One of the main problems is that they don't know what they are attracted to. Any time I've asked a girl "Why did you like him? How did you decide he was…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:28 PM
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But if there is big demand and not enough supply, that will automatically create an incentive to build cheap housing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:25 PM
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If it were so easy to find alternatives to being homeless like nobody would be homeless. That's really not the case. I can use UK as an example because I've lived there. The vast majority of the homeless people there are not homeless because it's so difficult not to be. They are homeless because they are lazy bastards who've lost any passion to live a decent life. Many of them are junkies as well and they don't give a shit if they will die from freezing tomorrow or not. It's really easy to not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:24 PM
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So what you are saying is that there is a huge demand and lack of supply? That would normally mean that there will still be some availability, just at a higher price perhaps. But usually in every situation you will always have some dogshit places which is still better than being homeless. And barely anybody would like to live at such a place so they are always available. Others, none who are willing to provide housing. In most of the cases your close relatives (parents, siblings, even uncles/aun…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:27 PM
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I wouldn't really call it privileged. Most people, even statistically, have some relatives. You more often than not have parents. Then you might have some siblings. Then you might have grand parents (up to 4 of them). Then you might have uncles/aunts. It will be indeed pretty rare to be alone in this world. And even if that's the case you might have some good friends who can help you out. You didn't answer my question about renting a cheap place though? Because certainly that's another great alt…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:22 PM
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Most people in the world aren't American. Yes, I'm not American either, but most of the Reddit users are and normally that's the context of discussion. This post is mostly about American/western women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 05:08 PM
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If you fail in most parts of Europe there will be more of a safety net. Why do you think so? 14 percent of people in the US will be homeless at some point Why is that though? What's stopping such a great portion of the population from just renting the cheapest place possible? Also don't they have relatives? Most of your relatives will never deny you from a place to stay if you are in a really bad situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 05:06 PM
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Good point. People also often like to play the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:38 PM
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what it costs to live even a mediocre life Bruh, US is one of the countries with highest standard of living. What are you talking about? How do you think a bunch of European countries for example do it with worse standard of living?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:28 PM
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What do you mean life is hard? Life is the easiest it's ever been and the quality of life is highest (speaking about US here). And it's even more so especially for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:26 PM
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That's clear, it's even stated in the title of the post, but the question is why.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:22 PM
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Yeah, go somewhere else with your dumb ridiculous preaching, this is a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:38 AM
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But somehow the mods didn't find my comment offensive while they removed hers for this reason. I am not sensitive I would prefer 100% freedom of speech. The sub has a civility rule though and I've been held up to it many times before. So it's only fair if everybody sticks to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:36 AM
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Cause that's the language I grew up with. No, it's not an emotionally reactive response - I just use it as a tool for emphasis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:33 AM
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In every field pretty much you will always have scammer, people who try to financially benefit from the normies, etc. That doesn't make the ideology itself wrong or bad by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:54 AM
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You can't speak so vague and expect a good answer. The average woman at what age exactly? Is attracted to men how much older than her? For example a woman in her early 20s can totally be attractive to an ATTRACTIVE guy in his early 30s. It might not be the norm but it happens often enough to be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:40 AM
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Attraction is something you have control over. Bullshit. That's like saying feeling cold is something you have control over. Acting upon attraction is something you have control over - not feeling attraction itself. Like acting upon feeling cold you have control over - you can get yourself warm. it's not logical to find your daughter's friends attractive no matter how pretty they are. How the fuck does it matter that they are your daughters friends? That's irrelevant. I'm not saying go and start…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:18 AM
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Thank you. I don't dispute that, I was just curious to know your opinion on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:12 AM
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Judging by your salty interpretation of it which didn't involve much logic it really looks like you were offended. And nothing in my comment suggested such attitude - I approved her comment (suggesting I come from a good ground) and I asked her a simple question after that. It looks like she didn't mind my question either: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ygnaq9/what_is_something_you_didnt_know_about_the/iub6zjo/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:11 AM
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No that's just your personal biased impression of it. I haven't seen many men even here claiming that. And you will always have some extremists who don't define the norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:08 AM
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Nobody said they need to be attracted to the average guy. You normally expect women to be attracted mostly to the attractive guys, who are by definition above average or significantly above average depending on the case. And very attractive guys can still be pretty attractive even if they are older than the woman. Also we are speaking pretty vague here in terms of age. I don't claim that it's common for a 20 year old woman to be attracted to a 50 year old guy. But something more sensible like ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:06 AM
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You don't have to be attracted to someone just because they're attractive. Do you realize that attraction is not something you control? It's a feeling. Also what you are saying makes zero sense - if they are attractive it's 100% logical that men find them attractive. Age of the men has nothing to do with it. Especially if it's deeply immoral. If you find this deeply immoral you have some pretty fucked up moral standards. They are not fucking kids, those are fully developed adult women we are tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:00 AM
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I don't accuse her of not answering the question, I just have a question of my own and I'm curious to hear her opinion. I actually even approved her answer by saying "That's all good". What the fuck is wrong with you people? I feel personally attacked so I demand you shit on women per my request Looks like you are the offended one if you interpret it like that. It's not surprising though, this answer totally fits the "crazy hardcore feminist" description I gave.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:56 PM
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You only think so cause it doesn't fit your salty narrative, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:52 PM
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First no need to turn personal, that's against the rule of the sub. Second I'm around 30, so far from being a grandpa. Third, you can do whatever you want, but your opinion doesn't represent all the women. Everybody has a different taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:08 PM
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Because young girls in their 20s are the most attractive they'll ever be. In their 30s the signs of aging already become apparent and in 40s it gets even worse. So it's only natural and totally understandable that men of all ages will be most attracted to those young girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:06 PM
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For men I learned that the small minority of men who care about N count are really damn vocal and their position makes no sense. Seriously, if you make a study asking 1000 men if they would prefer to have their future wife with an N count of 100 or with an N count of <5, I guarantee you that 99% at least will say <5. That is how much men DO care about N count. Thinking the opposite is just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:56 PM
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I didn't know so many women actually think the only reason why an young woman can be attracted to an older guy is his bank account. Great delusion, very unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:53 PM
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That's all good, but what's your opinion on the opposite gender equivalent - the crazy hardcore feminists who wholeheartedly hate men, there is no way you didn't notice those around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:49 PM
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Just keep in mind that the nature of the sub naturally attracts many extremists like crazy-ass feminists, etc. So that creates a bit of a skewed idea, I don't think it will be as bad IRL percentage wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:46 PM
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And what the fuck is wrong with that? It's an adult all legal woman. There is not issue to be attracted to such even from a moral point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:37 PM
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Red pill guys are not discussing the pink floyd album. LOL that made my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:29 PM
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It's also just speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:41 PM
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then women would also prefer 18 year old boys or even younger over 40 year old men, since older men have lower quality sperm that could lead to diseased children There are a few big problems with this statement which hold the answer to "But it isn't what we see, is it?" Semen degrades at much much slower rate than female fertility. I can probably write an article about this, but there is no need to. I will just give you a simple example. As a men at 45 you have a HUGE chance that you will have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:35 PM
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Ok I little bit more statistics lesson for you. If you are happy with only top 5% of the men, which is kinda fair by the way, you will be happy to date on average 1 of 20 guys who ask you out. If 20 guys ask you out in a day, odds are one of those will be good enough for you. So realistically you can find such guy in a day. If a man is happy with only top 5% of the women and he goes on Tinder (it doesn't need to be specifically, it's just used for the example) and he get's "asked out" once a wee…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:25 PM
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aka those they want without dropping their "standards" Well, that's just pure delusion then. And I will illustrate why I think so. They aren't necessarily competing with younger women who don't have kids. Even if we assume that you are right here, they will still compete with the same age women who don't have kids. And men will almost always pick a woman without kids than a woman with kids in the overwhelming majority of the cases. If you are not right though it get's even worse. Like you tend t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:16 PM
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Sure, but statistically the more options you have the bigger the chance is that you will find more guys you actually want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:07 PM
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but they still find plenty of compatible desirable partners That's assuming they drop their standards enough. Because they are certainly at a huge disadvantage overall when competing with younger women who don't have kids yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:04 PM
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How is that related to anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:58 PM
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So women have been allowed to be engineers for more than 50 years now (don't know the exact number, possible quite a bit more than that). How many truly amazing female engineers there are currently for every such male? A fuck all is the exact number with a good accuracy. How would you explain that? Also why did you ignore his IQ example?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:53 PM
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That's the bullshit of the day I guess. How the fuck do you compare women to men in terms of attractiveness? That's like comparing apples to oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:47 PM
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They are desperate because they don't have as much choice as you do. You can easily go on a date every day. You just go on Tinder and they are are instantly 100 guys who want to go out with you. A guy goes on Tinder and he will be lucky if he find a date per week. It's not much different IRL either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:44 PM
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or wants kids Huge red flag right away. I hope you at least make this clear to guys in advance so they don't need to waste their time with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:26 PM
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Anecdotal experience doesn't have any weight though, I can give you plenty of example of the opposite. Then who would be right - you or me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:24 PM
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Who says he is obsessed with sex? Don't you know the future man of your life to desire you and to really be into you? In such case isn't it completely normal that he is passionate about having sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:23 PM
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Hitting is not killing either, but it makes a difference if I hit the door or I hit your head with an iron bar, right? I think those things must be really obvious and I shouldn't need to give you such silly examples for you to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:22 PM
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AWALT mainly refers to hypergamy. No it doesn't, it's used for all sorts of women traits/behavior. Is a 6’ tall woman not hypergamous Jesus, I gave you literally the most simple example and you couldn't get even that one. I meant if a woman is 6' tall you can't say all women are 6' tall, because they clearly aren't. The aim was to demonstrate that you can't apply AWALT to whatever you want! AWALT is AWALT, or else it would be NAWALT by definition. No, it's not meant to be interpreted literally, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:24 PM
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You can't be going on about how any woman who's had too much sex ruins her """pair-bonding""" and has too much trauma to be a valuable partner, but think that men are mysteriously immune to these effects. There are some biological differences between men and women, but our brains are not THAT different. I'm pretty sure I've read some studies before that demonstrate that is the case for women but much less so for men. I'm too busy to be looking for sources right now though, sorry. If you are curi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:54 AM
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And maybe you can provide some studies to back up your words that you just pulled out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:44 AM
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Cautious is Cautious No, it's not an absolute fucking term with a strict definition and applied in the exact same way by everybody. Saying that is not only naïve but quite dumb actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:42 AM
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First AWALT is interpreted the wrong way by many people for good or bad reasons. Second, even if it's not, it can't be applied to every single case for a woman, you realize that? Like if a woman is 6'0 tall you can't say AWALT, that's just retarded. And the people who take it literally are equally retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:39 AM
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go to a movie with me I agree with pretty much everything you say, but going to a movie is a terrible date idea. The idea of a date is to get to know each other, not to stare at a screen for two hours together.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:34 AM
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If a guy doesn't know how he feels about me yet, he can play that game with someone else. So what, you are totally into somebody from the first moment you see them and you instantly know that he will be the man of your life? Don't be silly, those things take time to figure out. And part of this process is figuring out if you are sexually compatible. How would that happen if you don't have sex? That's just some backwards female thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:31 AM
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Him being passionate about having sex with you doesn't mean he is there just for the sex. But refusing to have sex with him in a reasonable time might indicate to him that you are not that into him or that you don't respect him around and you are just fooling around with him. If he's that high-value, he can go elsewhere. And most probably he will. See, he is not the one losing in this situation, you are the one losing. If he is high value he has plenty of options. You don't have plenty of option…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:28 AM
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Or just your "test" for proving his intentions is dumb and not being worth his time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 01:17 AM
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If you want to get in a relationship with a high value men don't make him wait for sex. How bout that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 01:06 AM
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Being cautious doesn't mean treat every stranger like a potential rapist, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 01:03 AM
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There seems to be a long list of moderators. Do you think the problem is that many of them are not active?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:59 AM
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It doesn't need to be circlejerk, it can just be a high-level intelligent discussion if moderated correctly. CMV posts are artificially made to be highly polarizing though and give voice to only one side of the people (nobody bothers using the stupid automod).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:58 AM
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As if men of value WANT to go around fighting? It's not about wanting, it's about the knowledge that you can do so to a good enough degree if circumstances require it. Instinctively women want to have a strong man next to them who can protect them. And yes, the chance that you might need to use those skills in reality might be low, but women don't work with probabilities, they work with possibilities. So in her mind, if somebody attacks your family on the street she wants to feel safe that you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:44 PM
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so yes you called me a dumb person Nope, that's just your interpretation of it. Dumb people also make some particular mistakes but if you happen to make such as well by accident, that doesn't make you a dumb person necessarily - accidents happen. Two people can disagree and neither is dumb. Two people disagreeing has nothing to do with how smart/dumb they are. One could definitely be dumb, they could be both dumb or neither could be dumb. The amount of experience you have with the subject you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:54 PM
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women in the 35-45 cohort overwhelmingly cosider bald guys hot Literally the first time I hear this. Baldness is also considered a sign of masculinity I'm not sure it is although it should be. Baldness is correlated to higher testosterone levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:28 PM
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But you have no anecdotal personal experience that's my point. First I do have plenty of experience with sex, I don't know why you thought the opposite. That's irrelevant though - you don't need to go personal here, we are discussing the issue in general. And my point was that personal anecdotal experience is not relevant most of the time in serious discussions, so it doesn't matter if you have it or not. particularly something like sex you just don't know You don't know what? You can know plent…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:34 PM
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The problem is not the research, the problem is how you interpret it as I demonstrated above. And the fact that your only way to answer to me is to go personal and offend me based on pure speculations shows that you don't have any solid arguments about my criticism to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 11:30 AM
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That's how dumb people think in my experience. Personal anecdotal experience is rarely a valid argument for anything more complex than baking a cake - but I guess that's the most of what your life is about, hence the example. Smart people like to rely on studies and proper science and give this as an example rather than their own self-biased anecdotal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 11:20 AM
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Do y'all even fuck? Bruh, stop with this fucking arrogant bullshit assumptions. I've been fucking for many many years. And not only this but I've been actively interested in the topic, I've experimented a whole lot, I've been always interested in giving my partner the most pleasure, etc. Leaning forward during missionary doesn't provide a whole lot of stimulation really. And yes, there are other methods as well - like during spoons you can reach around and stimulate her clit as well, etc. It all…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 11:17 AM
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And guess what - nature created you in a way that your clit is not really stimulated during PIV sex. That's not guy's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:34 AM
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Oh sure, let's blame the men again about everything and let's never ever take any sort of accountability as women. If she can orgasm from masturbation but not from you, that says something about you. Fucking bullshit. There are two huge arguments against that: Most women are fucking insecure and can't relax enough during sex to allow themselves to get to an orgasm. It's difficult for most women to get to an orgasm for classic PIV sex and that is entirely women's problem. When they masturbate the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:30 AM
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Like not experiencing something doesn't give you a right about discussing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:23 AM
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No I don't believe that but I'm happy that I prove my main point and I'm not gonna waste any more time on useless arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:26 AM
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So basically you agree with me now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:22 AM
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Many women don't want to sign up for that because they are not fine with their partner sleeping with other women, NOT because they are not allowed to do the same. Women who want to sleep around while in a serious LTR are the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:17 AM
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That is a gross generalization though. There are plenty of men who start balding at pretty early age. So they don't experience any aging disadvantages yet. Also that is pretty obvious often - if a guy is in his late twenties for example, it will be clear that he is still young despite of balding, so you wouldn't expect him to suffer from aging. And still plenty of women wouldn't like how he looks because of balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:14 AM
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No, they are not purely subjective, they are subjective to a degree. Here we are talking about a huge discrepancy. Like for one woman a particular guy is the most handsome by far of all men she ever saw (and everybody has seen at >10,000 men in their life realistically so it's a huge sample size). And at the same time for another woman she is the most ugly disgusting guy she ever say. This is either impossible or something is serious wrong with one of the women - like she is mentally ill or some…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:11 AM
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The problem with that is having a harem is pretty much none-existent in the west and I don't think that will really change any time soon. So that would mean in order for you to be right a bunch of women need to stay single/sexless, basically be female incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:27 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:25 PM
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I don't really see your logic. If we get things to extremes - just to make example stand out better and we say that we have 10,000 women and 10 men in a town. Men are such a scarcity in this situation that every single one will have a lot more success than the average men today. What you are suggesting is that the 80/20 rules will still be valid, which means only 2/10 guys will be getting all the attention. I can't see this happening though, because there is far too much demand and far too littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:25 PM
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I don't think you got his example right. He speaks about having more men than women, for example 90k women and 10k men in a 100k city.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:21 PM
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He surely does not have the more mainstream handsome type of face, but at the same time I bet he is neither 10/10 for you, nor 0/10 for any sensible woman. I think the main problem here is that women often don't know how to use the rating scale properly. Like for example they don't realize that 0/10 is supposed to be highly disfigured face with all sorts of defects which barely looks like a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:06 PM
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That's pretty well written/justified. Now my question for you is, using a similar scale and methodology but for women, how would you personally rate yourself? I know that you are self-biased to a degree but if you do your best and use some wide spreads qualities that men are looking for in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:03 PM
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LOL :D
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:56 PM
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Bruh, what a fucking shit show and a disaster of a thread. The idea was good, but unfortunately women have no idea how to use rating scales and have no idea what they want from a man in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:54 PM
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Yeah but it sounds like all the guys who are Yes are equal to you in terms of how much you like them, how much you are attracted to them, etc. There definitely must be some nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:51 PM
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You are one of the few people around who has his stats right. Props.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:48 PM
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Now, that is something a men will never say. How can somebody be absolutely perfect for you, in every single aspect - personality, looks, career, education, intelligence, wealth, etc. and at the same time he is absolute zero for somebody else? The idea of what's valuable in terms of qualities is highly similar for the vast majority of the people. I will give you an example to be more specific. How can a men be the most handsome men in the entire world for you and at the same time to be a real di…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:45 PM
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Should it matter? Technically no. I would disagree here. I doubt many people will disagree that the advantages to be tall are more than the advantages to be short. Women are trying to select the best partner possible, so why not pick the taller man if you have the choice, everything else being equal? But neither should any other physical attributes about a person that they were born with or could not prevent. That doesn't make sense either. Partner selection is not meant to be just or right or w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:38 PM
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How how exactly is this article proving him wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:26 PM
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Oh, I've thought about it properly and many times on top of that. No it's not common sense. That's a gross over-simplification of it and being quite naïve. Because the reality is there might be all sorts of other valid/common reasons why a woman will decide to stay. I will give you just a couple as an example: She might stay because you have a family together, she is really happy with the family life and how things are and maybe she doesn't see the act of cheating as something that's so terrible…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:13 PM
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Sure, to quote Beyonce - If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:52 PM
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If the other person is ok with that, but good luck finding somebody that would accept that. If you are an amazing high value men with all the good qualities, your chances increase dramatically. An open relationship is only open if both parties are free to see and sleep with others whist still dating each other. Nah, that's just some bullshit feminist equality blah blah definition of it. Anything else is just cheating really It's not cheating if your partner is aware of you sleeping around. You a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:51 PM
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or her staying because she’s insecure which will eventually just lead to resentment>a loveless relationship/marriage I just don't understand - are you a relationship specialist or a fortune teller to know that this is the only possible reason for her to stay? I still can’t believe you’re trolling. like cmon. If somebody is trolling in this post that's certainly not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:39 PM
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Your arguments would be good if you advocate for an open relationship with firm boundaries If they would be good for an open relationship, by extension they would also be good for cheating. The only difference is that as a part of cheating you would have a broken trust which I addressed as well. you're trying to convince us that cheating is totally fine if you manage to hide your cheating well enough First, I don't like the phrase "cheating is totally fine" because it's too vague and open to int…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:34 PM
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Sorry, with all my respect, that is just a bunch of overly emotional bullshit reasons. he showed that our relationship doesn't matter to him anymore Absolutely not. Maybe he enjoys being in a relationship with you and cares about your family and does everything that he needs to be a good husband/father. Because as I demonstrated in my original post, sleeping around doesn't need to involve any practical sacrifices with the relationship/family! he broke the deepest trust you can hold for another p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:46 PM
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The point being is that the risk of both is pretty damn low to even be worried about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:28 PM
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It's like they are kids and they don't know what marriages are like. Come on. Take some accountability for your own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:27 PM
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But none of those are necessarily caused by the lack of equality! They could just be the effect of me sleeping around. Again, if she hates the idea of her sleeping around, having the agreed upon opportunity to do so won't make her any less jealous of the fact that I do it, or any less likely that I give her an STD. I am asking you to justify the potential damage of the lack of equality here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:19 PM
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This reads like a child trying to convince their parents that only eating chicken tenders and never eating veggies is good for you. The differences is the kid is wrong from a scientific point of view, because veggies have fiber and important micro-nutrients for you. In comparison, my arguments are quite good from a logical/scientific point of view I believe. The only sound argument I'd need is ''I want a monogamous relationship.'' That is not an argument, this is a statement which hasn't been ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:15 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ycazs3/cheating_by_men_can_be_done_in_a_way_to_have_zero/iu0frs3/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:10 PM
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It's not so simple at all. First even if you are looking for an open relationship as a man, that will severely limit your options for a partner because there are very very few women who are looking for such. Even normal dating is super difficult as a man and looking for an open relationship partner who also has the qualities you want will be almost impossible. Also open relationship normally suggest open on both side. What if you want to sleep around but you don't want your wife to sleep around?…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:09 PM
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you characterize men as being rational etc and then go on to explain a man suffering from a physical compulsion so severe that he can’t control himself That's not necessarily a problem of self control. Lack of self control is when you DON"T want to do something but you can't stop yourself. With cheating many times men do it consciously with a full intention that they want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:07 PM
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And what if she knows and doesn't consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:00 PM
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So it's all good you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:00 PM
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Any woman who stays with a man after he cheats has low self-esteem and thinks she can’t do any better. And did you consider those cases where a woman is with an amazing man in every single aspect, apart from loyalty. And what if this man was many leagues above her and there is no fucking way she can get anything closer to that. In such case maybe she will want to be with him despite him sleeping around because all other great qualities he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:59 PM
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Why is it silly? You can't have 100% equality in everything in life. And what if your wife doesn't want to sleep around. Then equality is not even needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:57 PM
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Cause we can offer plenty of other benefits. Or you just take all of those for granted? Women get married all the time, don't they? Certainly they have a good reason to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:56 PM
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How do you define an open relationship though? Can it be only open on my side?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:55 PM
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Damn girl, he just got some random pussy on the side once. What's so bad about it? For example if he promised to you that he will stop seeing some friend of his who you really don't like and he does behind your back that will still be a betrayal, right? But something tells me in this case you won't be so pissed off about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:54 PM
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If my man did this to me, I'd sure as shit do everything in my power to make him rue the day he crossed me. I'm talking destroy his everything. No social reputation left, no friends, family disappointed in him like he's a serial killer, and if we had kids or shared resources, I'm keeping it all and he can see them supervised on weekends. And I'm not hiding from them how daddy got there. They can know both the good and the bad of their father. God can forgive him, because I sure as shit won't. Da…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:40 PM
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very caring and empathetic That by itself doesn't mean she won't be OK with you sleeping around. She’d would consider what a man has to offer in the context of a LTR as valuable And the right man in LTR can offer plenty of value by different means, despite sleeping around. She would consider the man in her life one of, if not the most important things to her. Sure A woman who adores and is head-over-heals in love with you is going to be upset at the idea of you sleeping with other women. Most of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:36 PM
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Well, it hasn't had a negative effect on her attraction so far at least, hopefully that won't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:30 PM
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Thanks, that's one of the few sensible well-written answers in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:29 PM
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Cool but in the particular situation what could be a potential scenario where the lack of equality in this very aspect could greatly hurt the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:28 PM
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I didn't say impossible, I said damn close to impossible - I hope you understand the difference. Like if you really want you can perhaps become a world champion in chess, but that would be damn close to impossible. Do you agree with that? If you are a smart person and you are really familiar with a particular situation (like a serious many years long relationship which has being always great), you have enough information to properly estimate what are the odds of something like that happening. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:26 PM
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Not saying this is definite in your case but it's very far from impossible. In my case it's pretty damn close to impossible due to like 10 different factors, let me assure you. Just remember, what's good for gander is good for goose. I know you really like this saying, but it can't be applied to everything in life, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:19 PM
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So you are saying that driving around with your family and risking to crash and kill them is not a big deal? That sounds sociopathic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:15 PM
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Why don’t you think you’re wife’s feelings about not sleeping with other men won’t change? First because she is well into her thirties already and people don't seem to drastically change their opinions at such age. In comparison I was really young when I thought differently on the topic. Second because she is really and I mean REALLY against the idea. She is totally disgusted by it and I never was so negative about it. So I'm pretty sure she will never turn 180 on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 04:13 PM
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Not necessarily you often have free time on multi-day work trips. Regarding (b) you have to be smart about it obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:37 PM
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You said yourself said earlier that right now, you don’t imagine sleeping with other women but that could change I don't think I said that. Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:35 PM
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More speculations, go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:33 PM
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No I would have definitely not have, because it's a long and complex topic. It's not about a single reply either, normally a long-ass discussion with follow. Also I'm not obliged to answer to anything, it's a free-will discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:32 PM
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No she won't definitely have extra time, because as I said you shouldn't dedicate any extra time to other women. And no, she wouldn't have unsatisfied libido, because you shouldn't sacrifice intimate time with your wife. Go and ready my OP again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:31 PM
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Speculate as much as you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:28 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:27 PM
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No, because in the open relationship normally it's expected that your wife has the freedom to be sleeping around as well and many men might not be happy with this. And please, I'm asking you, don't start telling me now that this is double standards or whatever. That is not the topic of discussion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:26 PM
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I guess you can call it like that, but it's open only on my end. By open relationship people usually mean open on both ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:24 PM
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That's just your opinion/guess. The fact is you don't know my wife and how she feels in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:22 PM
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That's an off-topic and I don't want to waste time discussing it. There are plenty of posts in the sub which discuss this. I'm currently working and I already wasted a lot of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:21 PM
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Hello? Did you forget the fact that she is 100% aware of my intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:19 PM
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In my OP I said that it will probably have negative impact: First I want to say that I don't encourage cheating and I don't think every man should be cheating left or that cheating has only benefits and no drawbacks. I'm lucky not to need to deal with all the headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:16 PM
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Fair, everybody has the right to have an opinion. You are welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:15 PM
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Well what I actually meant is saying that's your intention, I guess I just didn't explain it very well. Sorry to cause this confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:14 PM
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It's a democracy, do whatever you wish. Just don't force your opinion on everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:11 PM
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Oh, so you somehow know my wife better than me and somehow you are 100% convinced that she is lying to me and she certainly means the opposite? Or you are just one of those people who prefer to blindly believe into something that must always align with their ideas about the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:08 PM
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I intentionally made my case about men cheating to keep it more simple/focused. If it was about both genders it's getting far too broad and we start having conversations about equality and stuff, which is just not the topic of discussion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:07 PM
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then by your view men must be cool with their female partners cheating so long as they’re taking all the same precautions, yes I intentionally made my case about men cheating. If it was about both genders it's getting far too broad and we start having conversations about equality and stuff, which is just not the topic of discussion here. You don’t need to make a gendered “lOgIc vErSuS reAsON” theory about it. And why not? It's an interesting discussion in my opinion and it doesn't break the rule…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:04 PM
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And there doesn't need to be equality if there is no demand for it, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:59 PM
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That's fair, but getting HIV is extremely rare, especially if you use protection. It's practically a no issue in todays society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:58 PM
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I've discussed all of this already with her and no, she has definitely not changed her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:57 PM
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Not only she knows but we've discussed this many times. She knows my Reddit account as well, so it's not like I'm posting this behind her back. she would decide that turnabout is fair play I don't quite get the logic of this though. If you feel disgusted by the thought of sleeping with other men, how does the fact that your husband wants to sleep around makes you consider it as well? That makes zero sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:56 PM
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Well, how harmful or justified it is varies a lot depending on the particular relationship/circumstances/people. I'm sure you'd feel hurt if she cheated on you using all your "tips". I'm lucky enough to have found a wife who has zero desire to sleep with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:51 PM
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Women who want monogamy will not accept a man who wants to sleep around. Most* of the women. There are always some exceptions. the kind of women who will accept him sleeping with other women will herself also be interested be sleeping with other men There might be some correlation, but again there will be many exceptions. It's not a hard rule, you know? People who are into poly/ open relationships etc seek partners who are like minded. Yes that's true, but she doesn't need to be into poly/open r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:50 PM
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So what, you think 100.0% of the women on this world secretly dream to sleep around? You might have been unfortunate to never be in a truly honest relationship, but I've had this fortune.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:44 PM
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She might not be extremely happy about it, but she understands my arguments and understands why I might want to do it. She is also happy that I'm open about it instead of going behind her back. Also she is really happy with every other aspect of the relationship which helps a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:43 PM
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I just presented the optimal case in my OP. Yes not disclosing it is not optimal and more problematic, obviously. The rest of the arguments still stand though and can be used to limit the potential damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:41 PM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:39 PM
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Why do you assume that a woman who is OK with you sleeping around can't be a quality woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:38 PM
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Why many women often assume that it MUST be open on both sides. What if the wife doesn't want to sleep around? What if she finds this absolutely degusting? What if she is already completely satisfied by her husband? Would you force her to sleep around as well just to have some made up "equality" in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:37 PM
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the "sound" argument is "we took vows to be faithful and if I find out I'm divorcing you" That can't be generalized though. For example in my culture it's not really common to have vows nowadays and even if some people do, nobody considers them as a do or die rule but more like some old-school formality. I dont give a shit about these rationalizations, why do I need to justify my response? Because an intelligent communication is an integral part of every relationship. And such does not constitut…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:35 PM
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Be aware though that even open relationships have ground rules that are expected to be followed Sure that makes sense. also the “open” part is a two-way street and you should not expect monogamy from your partner if you are not giving it yourself There are many exceptions to this though. For example my wife would never want to sleep with another men - she finds the thought disgusting. I'm obviously pretty happy about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:30 PM
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You should seek a partner who's okay with you sleeping around Obviously that's the best situation. Very often it doesn't work in real world though. That could be for all sorts of reasons. For example in my case I found my partner when I was really young and at this point I would never think I can ever dream for sleeping with another woman. As people mature though things change and you can't always predict this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:28 PM
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Well to a degree you are right I guess. However in some cases it could be an argument for cheating as well, if the husband doesn't want to be up-front about it. I don't really support the idea but people might have their fair arguments on that depending on the particular relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:25 PM
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Usually what is meant by it is that 80% of the women in general go to the top 20% of guys As /u/insertcredit2 stated, that's mostly hook up related and that's how most of the people around interpret it. It doesn't make sense including relationships for example, because in those you clearly have even numbers, i.e. for every woman in a relationship you have a man because the vast majority of relationships are monogamous. I would argue it's even more extreme in that regard, because guys who are in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:16 AM
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Thanks, good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:24 AM
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What if he has a huge dick? Would that be a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:22 AM
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Evil but effective I guess. So what then you would refuse to have sex with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:00 AM
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And you just pulled out this stats out of your ass I guess? Very few men who have access to regular sex would use a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:58 AM
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So being a celebrity automatically makes you toxic? Drinking or doing drugs automatically makes you toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:11 PM
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And what percentage of the people do you think eat decent and do regular exercise?! 70% of the US population is overweight. Also you seem to ignore the fact that having a six pack requires at least some good degree of genetics that not everybody has.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:09 PM
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Why both ways? I think the trial was pretty conclusive on that one?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:55 PM
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So the guy just wanted to have sex with you (basically what every straight guy wants to do with a girl) and that makes him toxic? I think your story is actually a perfect example of what the OP considers "the word toxic losing almost all meaning".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:53 PM
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And that's your excuse to be rude to people? Jeez. A fucking feminist indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:41 PM
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Why? Hitting someon first is a shitty behavior but hitting someone back is justified. Let me give you a better example - it's like beating someone almost do death when you claim to be a person against violence, because he beat you in a first place. Don't do what you preach against so strongly! I personally would have just left and destroy him using other methods And why do you want to destroy him? He didn't do it to destroy you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:34 PM
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Because this way you show that you are the same piece of shit and you deserved being cheated on in a first place. If you are a decent woman you will just go away. It's a bit like saying "My husband killed my mother, so to make it fair I killed his mother". Well now you are a fucking killer too, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:55 PM
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That's some delusional talk right here. the woman lacks sexual agency which is the appeal That's only appeal in the case of rape, in the case of prostitution that's one big drawback. but both are motivated by power No, having sex with a prostitute is mostly motivated by not having any other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:44 PM
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1 in 3 young men reported no sexual activity in the last year https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066?widget=personalizedcontent&previousarticle=0 Why men are having sex less frequently https://www.healthline.com/health-news/young-adults-especially-men-having-sex-less-frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:40 PM
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Again, why would I be faithful to a man who isn't faithful to me? Why would I be a good wife to a man who isn't a good husband? I mean if you don't want to be married to such man, just leave him. But it always sounds terrible when a woman goes like "He cheated on me so I cheated on him".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:27 PM
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You really sound but hurt, coming mostly from your negative experience with some guys which is pretty narrow and can't speak about the general population really. and why they are being rejected Rude behavior is by far not one of the top reasons why men struggle with dating - that's been shown in many studies, etc. It's quite naive to think that is the only/top reason. I'm sorry if that's been your experience. What makes you think you deserve a relationship with a woman? Serious question, I'm not…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:58 PM
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makes me question your self worth and your social skills That's just showing how prejudiced you are. Wanting to get some easy sex doesn't necessarily have anything to do with your self-worth or social skills. I've had friends who are really social and good looking / successful with women but still have used prostitutes at some point. And that is just because they sometimes want to get some easy sex and they don't have time or don't want to go through all the bullshit of dealing with women. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:48 PM
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Some studies show men who purchase sec have more in common with sex offenders than men who don’t buy sex. What a retarded statement, lol. That's like saying men who have sex have more in common with rapist than men who don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:40 PM
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So a tiny percentage, literally the top 0.01% of men will be able to cheat while finding a wife who will put up with it? Most certainly percentage is bigger than that - I would guess something like 2%. My example was just a bit exaggerated to illustrate my point. You don't need to be such a high value men for it to work. And sure, you need to still be fairly high value but that's expected. But on the other hand the vast majority of the women are trying to get as high value men as possible, right…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:37 PM
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They just hope he will be loyal to them. There is no way to know for sure if somebody would. Although in some cases even if they know he will be sleeping around, they are too much into him and will be dealing with that, as long as he is being a good husband otherwise. I mean do you think Chris Hemsworth would struggle finding a wife even if he is open about his intentions to be sleeping with other women while being married? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:20 PM
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The better question here is why the fuck don't you want to be faithful to a men, regardless of what he wants? Do you think you are a good wife material if you are dreaming about sleeping with other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:17 PM
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That's your personal decision. Many women would disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:15 PM
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That's a completely ridiculous metric to measure value. As a couple of guys already said, that is the only metric to measure value as defined in economics. If something is highly demanded that means it's valuable. They literally made a video measuring testosterone In which they don't quote the type of test they've used, don't give units, don't give methodology and don't give reference ranges? I hope you don't rely on cheesy mainstream YouTube videos like this for serious medical issues you might…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:14 PM
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The only problem is it's not a revenge fantasy, it's been proven in studies: Unmarried professional women unhappiest in the US https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:06 PM
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what is your problem about wanting a relatively attractive partner A couple of problems: Women often don't want relatively attractive partner (meaning maybe slightly more attractive than themselves) but want one who is far above their league. That is evident by so many fairly unattractive girls who refuse to settle for an average guy, who technically is more attractive than themselves. Women often fail to properly asses their own attractiveness which causes the mistake above. That mostly comes f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:04 PM
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And millions of men are delusional too. Bullshit, men live in reality because reality forces them to do so. A few examples of that: If you are not attractive as a man that's perfectly clear to you because of your miserable attempts at dating at the constant rejections. If you are not attractive as a woman situation is much better because you will always be getting some attention from men and you will still have plenty of men who at least want to fuck you and a few who are desperate for a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:55 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/yarj0o/what_actually_happens_when_women_lower_their/ithcphz/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:39 PM
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It is facts if it's proven in studies: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/yarj0o/what_actually_happens_when_women_lower_their/ithcphz/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:38 PM
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correllation not causation You like to use fancy phrases or what? What exactly is the correlation and not the causation in the examples I gave? Can you please not be such a lazy ass and go through all my points demonstrating why each of them is wrong using arguments instead of simply disregarding everything I say. Alright, I wasted a bit of my precious time to find some resources for you, although I'm sure a person like you will either be too lazy to go through them or just simply disregard them…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:38 PM
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Easy - he is desires by many many women so that determines his value. Now why do they desire him you should ask them, but that's just a fact. By the way you have zero idea about his testosterone levels, don't speculate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:09 PM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:04 PM
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And show me why it's such a bad thing to love yourself See, you can't speak about proper science and research and at the same time coming up with such vague bullshit as "loving yourself". Find me one statistic about this constant inflated ego BS lmao Such studies might exist, although since this whole thing is mostly a new phenomenon of the recent years conducting good studies would take some time. There are plenty of real life evidence of this happening though which can't be ignored. Just a few…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:31 AM
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Lmao I'm "crazy" because I'm perfectly content being alone You don't get it. It's not a problem that you don't want to date shitty guys and prefer to be alone instead. There are a couple of possible problems (possible because I don't knot your individual situation): You might have over-inflated standards and what you find "subpar shitty undeserving asshole" is actually average or even above average men who is not really that bad RELATIVELY to most of the men. So those artificial standards are wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:57 AM
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Of course everybody is allowed to have preferences. There are a couple of problem which are very prevalent today though. First many women have very inflated ego / sense of self-worth. There are different factors contributing to that, but let's not go into off-topic too much. That makes them believe they deserve a really high value man, while the reality is they don't because they don't have the right qualities to be worthy of such. So in this you can see how this fake over-inflated image of them…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:00 AM
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I doubt women are dumb enough* to think that this means she is entitled to instantly be handed on a platter a mature adult relationship with a 10/10 celebrity looking dude who somehow also has a 10/10 personality aka Twilight or Shades of Grey Believe me bro, plenty of them are even more delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:44 PM
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A perfect summary of the cat lady / divorce generation we live in. Millions of crazy women feeling entitled to get their prince charming and not being capable of doing some simple maths and realizing that there are not enough fucking prince charmings for even 5% of the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:30 PM
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I didn't get if you are joking or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 10:25 PM
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It's always easy to track if you want to do it and you are determined. Like you can have a note in your phone which you update every time for example. The thing is most people can't be bothered I would imagine or don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:58 PM
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I can't imagine having anal during a one night stand! It's probably not all that common but I'm sure there are such cases. For example if the girl has a period but still wants to go for it, it's a good alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:49 PM
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That's interesting. Similar cases always amused me. If you are so much into a guy that you are happy to suck his dick (something really intimate to most people) what would prevent you from go straight to sex after that - it's super close already? And sure it can certainly happen once or twice, but having a large number of those instances with different guys is certainly unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:32 PM
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Alright I figured you out already - you are just a toxic opinionated braindead bitch who can just be name calling and is incapable of answering with more than a couple of sentences or using arguments to support her claims. Enough time wasted on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:14 PM
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I mean at the very least you can count classic vaginal intercourse and anything more serious (like anal only for example). To be honest I am a bit surprised that several people made a question out of that. And while it makes sense that the definition actually matters, I would have imagined that it's not a problem with the vast majority of the people, who either do mostly classic vaginal sex or have too few instances of anything else for it to matter too much for the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:10 PM
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There is nothing judgmental about the question, you might be potentially judged depending on the answer but even that's not guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:06 PM
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I hope mwo.en never fuck you It's a lost hope, I've been happily married for years now and my wife is totally happy with me. She also understands my views on such topics and agrees with them. Women don't deserve men like you, they deserve way better. Isn't it a bit naive to make such statement, after all you don't know anything about me rather than a view of mine that I shared here? Can you make an overall conclusion about an individual solely based on a single comment of his? The truth is I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:42 PM
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Alright I am reporting you for breaking the sub rules even after I've reminded you about them. You can't judge men for having a big N count, because that's an achievement as a man. It's difficult thing to achieve, you need to put a lot of work in, you need to have skills, you need to have qualities some of which take hard work to develop. That's not the case for a woman at all - as a woman you just need to open your legs, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:37 PM
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I don't want to call women sluts per se, it's just a good descriptive word for a woman who's had a few dozens of dicks inside her, you know? Also downvoting in the sub is forbidden, don't be stupid and follow the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:30 PM
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Asking about sexual history comes across as insecure to me Quite the opposite actually - I think what comes as insecure is not feeling comfortable sharing your count when being asked. i would find it rude honestly It can be asked in a polite way and in the right moment. I can see your point overall but at the same time having the information early can save both of you a lot of time potentially in the case where the guy is really not happy with the number.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:12 PM
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I guess that's true, but at the same time as you said it's a bit of an open question and wouldn't necessarily give you the reliable/specific answer you are actually looking for. And answer which is not reliable is fairly useless in my opinion when I'm trying to get to know somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:11 PM
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But why exactly? Do you feel ashamed of it? Are you afraid of being judged? In my opinion truth and openness are very key features in a relationship and the earlier you start applying those the better it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:54 AM
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Sorry I misinterpreted your question - I fixed my reply above.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:47 AM
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why would anyone do this People have their reasons I guess because many women do it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:45 AM
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That's off-topic. Unless you addressed the OP where I meant high enough that you don't remember it on top of your head anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:43 AM
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what someone considers a body count notch in the first place Not quite the aim of the post but it's a fair point in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:43 AM
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Extrapolations are imagined and immature. That's almost as dumb as saying it doesn't matter how many people somebody has killed, maybe he had a good reason to do so. That wouldn't make you go out with a serial killer, right? Sure, details matter and the number itself don't provide the whole picture, but if a woman has slept with 100+ men, she will struggle big time convincing me she is not a fucking slut and she is a good wife material. What is immature is thinking that the N count number has li…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 10:42 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 10:30 AM
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I can assure you I am not dumb - I am in top 0.1% of the population IQ wise (proven by several clinically approved IQ tests I've taken + confirmed by a long list of academic/professional achievements). So far I've only heard a bunch of nonsense from you and name calling people and zero actual arguments why exactly you think so. That is not a particularly smart behavior I would say. you don't only avoid things because they're life-changing You avoid things for all sorts of reasons, the benefits a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 10:22 AM
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You are just speculating here. Proof or it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:27 PM
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When you grown up you will eventually get it kiddo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:26 PM
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No you are not dumb, you are just taking a pretty small risk that you might get an STD. And even if you get such (again the risk is pretty small by my standards) it's not like it's the end of the world. The risk that you will get a life changing STD is pretty damn small.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:18 PM
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Tell me you are a fucking feminist without actually telling me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:41 PM
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It's not black and white though, it's not like at 18 you are suddenly completely capable of making such decision. It also greatly varies case by case, so you can't really judge it in general. I bet there are plenty of teenagers more mature than some adults (in terms of absolute numbers not percentages). Another argument is that you assume it is a really critical decision with terrible outcome, which it might not be depending on the circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:42 PM
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You are not the queen of England, cause she died. Don't play dumb now. Where does this "duty to humanity" come from From my personal believes + using sound logic. There are no unselfish reasons to procreate. Very simple - if you decide to be childfree you only care about yourself and your own good. If everybody decides to go this route the humanity will disappear in one generation. Hence it's a selfish thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:39 PM
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Actually I'm an atheist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:30 PM
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Friction is bigger so with many women it hurts, especially if you have a big dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:25 PM
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Kids ain't fucking pussies nowadays, just that :) Risk it for the bizkit, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:23 PM
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I don't think it's fair to judge people's intelligence based on their choice of not using condoms. There are some upsides of not using one, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:18 PM
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You don't need to be qualified to comment on Reddit, it's a free platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:14 PM
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prior to modern medicine But now things are vastly different aren't day? The chance that you will die during giving birth is as high as your chance of dying due to a car accident. I bet you are not afraid of being in a car though, are you? So it's all an irrational fear in your head. personal freedom/agency To translate - not bein brainwashed by forth wave feminism. did so out of a sense of duty to their partner/religion/community You skipped the only valid/important one - duty to humanity. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:11 PM
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Of course I'm not trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:46 PM
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The problem is even you don't know yourselves, otherwise the world would have been much more simple place and such subs wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:45 PM
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No, please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:44 PM
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Jeez, what's so terrifying about being pregnant and giving birth? If it was so bad it wouldn't have happened to almost all women in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:19 PM
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You are saying that because you know it ain't happening. If there was a way to get a few million (or whatever the right sum is) I'm sure you wouldn't have been so certain. You would be a fool to refuse such sum to have a kid - you can always abandon the kid later if you wish. Of course I'm not advocating for that, I just know that most people will totally do it for the right money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:17 PM
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There is no amount of money that would have made me have any more. Funny when people talk in absolutes like that. I bet you would change your mind if they offer you a few million.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:13 PM
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As if women don't deserve to be pleasured just like he is. But for the most part sex is equal for both parties if you exclude BJs etc. But they do it for his pleasure Not necessary - many times those are done to get the dick hard - something pretty important for successful sex you would agree. typically getting only disrespect in return Perhaps your personal experience, not the general case! since we don't enjoy hookups with strange men that may or may not be good in bed or may or may not be sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:14 PM
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Yeah but when you are having sex with a man you are not on your own, are you? That's what we discuss here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:00 PM
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What he is trying to say is - Why would the average or below average woman be unhappy with the average man if she doesn't have any good qualities herself? And what makes the average woman believe that she can get any better man with her crappy qualities? Because realistically she can't. And if you look at society you will realize that this is mostly the case. Which means your point seems to be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:57 PM
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And if they insist on techniques, time and methods that can bring them to orgasm. You seem to miss the root of the problem though, which is that it's just pain in the ass for many women to get to an orgasm. They need a fucking 30 min foreplay, they need the right atmosphere and conditions, they need a romantic environment, they need to be really attracted to the guy big time, they need just the right length of intercourse, they need just the right movement and tempo changes, they need a lot of o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:46 PM
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Many women who enjoy casual sex will disagree with you. Also women always cry about equality and shit right? If you don't care about the man in a casual hookup, why is it important that he cares about you? He still enjoys the sex and so you should, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:39 PM
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You are speaking too vague here. What is a grown men? Is it in terms of age or qualities/maturity he possesses? For example I don't see anything bad with 18 year old (considered grown/adult by law) man with good intentions dating a 16 year old girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:50 AM
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You provided literally zero context. Maybe the guy is 13 himself and that's his childish dream? How the fuck can you call this creepy, it's cute in such case. How are all the comments saying "I want a young submissive girl without experience" not screaming "I want someone I can manipulate into whatever I want"? Because that's just your twisted interpretation of it - normal sane people don't think like that. You might want to have an younger submissive girl as a partner for many other reasons tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:44 AM
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they seem to be the ones that are targeted You are saying it as like in the vast majority of the cases there are some ill malicious intentions behind the "attack". I don't think that is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:37 AM
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As a father to a young teen that’s troublesome. You are introducing your personal bias/feelings here though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:35 AM
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it’s creepy as fuck My problem with statements like this is that there is no reliable absolute definition of what's creepy and what not and it's almost 100% up to the personal understanding/moral/feelings of the person using it. For this reason the word is rarely helpful when being used in intelligent discussions and is best if people try not to use it. Same with saying something is wrong for example without being more specific why.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:33 AM
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A man taking care of me and texting me daily and calling me beautiful 🤩 that’s my fantasy And that gives you orgasm, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:20 AM
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There is literally a little magical button right there but men can't even find it - or what's more likely - they don't care. That's what you women like to believe in and be delusional about, it's just easier for you than admitting the truth. And the truth is most of you are just incapable of getting to orgasm easy. It's partially biological, partially due to your own insecurities and inability to just relax and enjoy sex. It's not because men don't care or because they can't find some bullshit i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:19 AM
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You are saying it as like women are not exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:12 AM
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You think that she would admit if she had dirty thoughts about other man Of course she would, you have no idea how honest our relationship is. She's shared things that are worse than that. Modern women do cheat as much as men do Cause the majority of modern women are fucking hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:03 AM
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I can guarantee you that every decent study (if such exist) will show that there is a huge discrepancy between the two genders in terms of such experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:48 AM
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Cheating is cheating, buddy. If you look so simplistically on such a complex issue as cheating you probably don't even have a lizard brain buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:46 AM
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If your wife really wants to fuck some other guy you have serious relationship problem buddy. If you want to fuck some other girl it's a normal everyday life. I've shared to my wife many many times that I feel like fucking some hot chicks on the street and she is alright with that - she understands that men work that way. On the other hand we've had discussions with her and she is degusted by the thought of sleeping with another guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:43 AM
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Provide study references please.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:47 PM
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I'm just saying that it's not a proper comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:46 PM
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I personally know a few men who've slept with an adult woman while being underage and all of them have told me it's been an amazing experience for them. It's not always an abuse you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:41 PM
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It would be hypocritical to say that one side or gender has the right to cheat and other doesn't. That is completely false because it assumes: The two genders are exactly the same in terms of motivations for cheating, feelings, desires, libido, biological and evolutionary traits. The two genders get affected by their partner cheating in the exact same way. Otherwise you are just comparing apples and oranges which is inherently stupid thing to do. That is a bit like saying to your 9 year old kid …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:34 PM
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but encouraging other guys who could be 16 having sex with a 20 year old is terrible advice and creepy Sorry buddy but you are a dork. 4 years is not even a big age difference. Nothing creepy or bad about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:16 PM
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Absolutely true - the difference is that the latter is much more natural experience while going to a prostitute is pretty fake one. I would rather know that the girl I fucked really desired me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:14 PM
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I wouldn't think - I would do my best to learn all the details first before getting to conclusions. There could be 1001 reasons why it happened and details are really important in such situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:11 PM
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Not that common, but seems to be more common than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:09 PM
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Spot on! The amount of delusional women in this post who have zero ability to grasp what you said is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:08 PM
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Even if that is the case I would argue these men can say a lot more about the issue and their word has a lot more weight than the word of a woman, just because they are men. You are not a man, you have no idea how we feel about such stuff, etc. and just project their current feelings onto it Well the exact same but with even less weight is what women seem to be doing in the post - mostly projecting their feeling on the matter. Women just see it almost entirely through their own perspective - suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:03 PM
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I personally wouldn't get to this situation with my daughter because 1. I would provide the proper upbringing to her to make sure she doesn't end up in such situation and 2. I am close enough to my kids to get very early warning signs if such things even start happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:59 PM
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I repeat again, I'm not saying it's good behavior - it's certainly bad for the girl's development and future life. I don't mean to be normalizing it either - I'm just saying it's more common than you think and it's not always due to abuse/trauma etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:58 PM
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You really don't seem to know a couple of things at least: Some parents are incredibly bad and have zero idea or care of what happens with their kids Even if they do to a degree, it's incredibly easy for teenagers to do dodgy stuff without their parents knowing. The fact that so many teenagers smoke or do drugs in secret is a proof of that. Having sex is not much different really - I would argue it's actually easier. If you get high at least your parents might notice you are high, not the same w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:51 PM
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I'm not saying it's normal or it's good - it's not good. What I'm saying is it's not necessary due to abuse though. It is not an side effect of sexual liberation Again, I really think you vastly underestimate the effect of sexual liberation and social media on teenagers nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:44 PM
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she has nymphomania, which means she would have been definitely put in a situation where an older man to take advantage of it, And what about the case where she has nymphomania and she is just getting some casual sex with same age partners? or she is acting in a way she was taught to behave I wouldn't say taught. Maybe she was influenced by having slutty female friends or something. I've definitely known such girls - that doesn't mean they were abused, just negatively affected by the environment…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:43 PM
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Not at 12, the once I used to know were like 14-15. But nowadays kids start having sex earlier and earlier affected by social media, porn, etc. I think you either don't appreciate that effect enough or you are from a different generation and are not familiar enough with teenagers nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:28 PM
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That's just an average. Maybe she started having sex at 14, maybe at 16. That would be pretty common, wouldn't it? If she started at 15 let's say, she would have had 20 partners per year. I don't see this as unreasonable number for a horny/slutty teenage girl. Yes, it might not be super common, but it's certainly plausible. My brother is younger than me and he has many teenage friends. It's common nowadays for some of the hornier girls to start having sex at 13 where we live.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:27 PM
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Bruh, if she slept with a different guy once a week when she goes out, that's just a single year of partying. Totally doable for a horny teenage girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:21 PM
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Yes, that is 10 partners per year on average - nothing truly exceptional for a teenage girl who has an infinite access to sex if she wants. I agree, that's not your typical teenage girl, but such cases certainly exist and are more common than you think, without any abuse happening. I've personally known about 10 such girls when I was a teenager. And how the fuck would you know that her partners weren't teenagers as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:20 PM
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it’s idiotic to think that a person of any gender could have 60 sexual partners by the time they are 18 and there not be a history of abuse It's idiotic to think that the option of abuse is more likely than the option she was just a slutty teenager. You don't get randomly abused by 60 guys. People usually don’t become sex crazed teens without being abused Nope, there are plenty of such cases - it's called sluts. I personally used to know like 10 such girls when I was younger - none of them was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:16 PM
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This screams a slut. Nobody gets abused by 60 guys you know? And even if that was the case somehow, the above friend would have known about it and wouldn't have used it as an example in this post I would assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:10 PM
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You are an old woman talking to an young guy. The opposite is much more likely to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:49 PM
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Spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:39 PM
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Housewifes too contribute to men success in ways that are not easily quantifiable and they too would deserve compensation for getting wronged And the same way there is no real adequate and reliable way to determine the size of the compensation. If it's only a matter of infidelity though, I think you will struggle justifying a multi-billion dollar compensation for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:42 PM
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