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All of women's types are attractive by mainstream standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:56 AM
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wtf difference does it make whose sperm they came from? You deserve a third Trump term for this comment alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:43 AM
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She barely has an ass at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:39 AM
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She shouldn't care either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:38 AM
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I do actually, because nobody ever says that, so she's lying by saying they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:08 PM
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He deserves a hot gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:52 PM
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You've never heard that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:51 PM
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That is your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:42 PM
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Rape culture doesn't exist in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:37 PM
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Every mod action on this sub is a female mod getting triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:21 PM
5

Men should embrace insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:20 PM
1

I long for the day that men truly impress upon women how fragile their masculinity really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:18 PM
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Because raising another man's kids is cuckoldry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:02 PM
1

I don't appreciate you posting revealing pictures of my future wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:09 AM
7

Yeah "don't be fat" isn't "just be nice".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:32 AM
-3

We all know the answer to this but it's against the rules to say the truth on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:02 PM
9

Because women also care about a man's wallet. This does not mean women care about looks less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:01 PM
1

If we can blame pedophiles for being pedophiles then we can blame women for being women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:54 PM
4

Women caring about a man's wallet does not mean they care about looks less than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:53 PM
9

They're wrong because their "data" is women saying things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:34 PM
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Women are reaping what they sowed for the last decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:33 PM
1

Saying one thing is like another =/= saying they are exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:27 PM
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I love when people call asking women what they think "science".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:27 PM
3

Your made up scenario doesn't "point to" anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:51 PM
7

Except it's not a myriad of issues, it's just looks the vast majority of the time so insisting that it's any other issue is an implicit denial of the importance of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:14 PM
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Women are denying it every time they insist men are not struggling with dating because of their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:54 PM
2

This is great advice for men who wish to be cuckolds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:51 PM
0

No you weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:47 PM
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I doubt she's lying about being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:33 PM
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Nobody who doesn't hate men has a problem with that trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:29 PM
2

She never said anything about being a “bad person.” She does say "woman" in her flair though it's safe to assume she thinks these things are synonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:26 PM
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Both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:06 PM
9

This is like telling rape victims they should've dressed more modestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:04 PM
14

Women care about looks more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:01 PM
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False premise; I don't misunderstand or malign well intentioned dating advice. I do malign disingenuous dating "advice" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:00 PM
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The difference is that men don't spend every breath gaslighting women that they just want a girl who's nice etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:26 PM
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A 28 year old woman is 38 in woman years so she's actually an agematch.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:30 AM
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90% of the mod actions on this sub are just a female mod getting triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:27 AM
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How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:00 PM
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Nothing wrong with it I just can't relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:52 AM
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I do not understand people who have one static "type" basically their entire lives. The kind of woman I find most attractive changes on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:08 AM
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Correct, and very impressive math for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:30 AM
3

Yes, but not to the same degree. I would say the conversion rate is something like 5 faces per 1 penis, assuming the faces are male. Female faces would add nothing to your N.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:50 AM
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(Deleted my last reply, I mistook which thread I was reading.) I can say it with no less certainty than you can say that the feeling you've felt is actually love.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:43 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:21 AM
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Everyone has experienced the desire to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:20 AM
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Yes, you definitely are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:59 AM
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I would wonder, but I would admit to myself that that means I don't love my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:53 AM
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No, you are confusing vulnerability and the desire to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:52 AM
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Aren't male silverbacks much bigger than that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:25 AM
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Yeah it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:21 AM
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Yeah and insecurity is normal too. The desire to be loved and the feeling of insecurity are the same emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:15 AM
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Unknown identity =/= imaginary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:06 AM
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Wanting to be loved is insecurity, but admitting that would mean admitting you are insecure, so you won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:05 AM
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Wanting to be loved is insecurity. Insecurity is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:48 PM
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The problem is you wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:48 PM
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If she's a whore then he's not imaginary.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:46 PM
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(trick) (mack) (pimp) LOL, what the hell is this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:50 PM
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I don't have a problem with a guy using escorts or talking about using them. If he starts to spout a bunch of nonsense like "all men pay for it one way or another", that's what I have an issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:48 PM
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But for ME? Like .001%. Should be 0% (or 1/~4000000000).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:42 PM
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A valid excuse yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:29 AM
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Men assign Nah. There is about a 99.9% chance Greta believes "toxic masculinity" is a problem. Yet she perpetuates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:24 AM
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We're better off not knowing lest we figure out how to reverse it. Men are already born at a natural disadvantage to women in the form of wanting sex more. Could you imagine how fucked up it would be if we were thirsting over a bunch of ugly bitches? If we have to be like this then the least women can do is look pretty for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:12 AM
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Not interested in any women who don't act like this toward me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:06 AM
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I don't disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:02 AM
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Women think this phenomenon is a form of oppression and that they're being robbed of their natural mode of desire. They see how males are the pretty ones in every other species and females are the ugly ones and think "that should be us!".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:55 AM
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just as much No, not "just as much". Men definitely crave it a lot, but not to the degree women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:52 AM
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Comparing strangers to other strangers is not morally equivalent to comparing your partner to a previous partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:50 AM
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The characters "MS13" are not supposed to appear as though they're part of the tattoo, they're there to show what the actual tattoo symbols supposedly mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:34 PM
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If they existed they would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:43 AM
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Stop teasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:42 AM
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To pedophiles maybe yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:14 AM
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because of back pain. PAAAAAAAHAHAHA you fell for that? bAcK pAiN PAAAAAAAAHHH! Women say that shit then pee their pants laughing as soon as our back is turned. I would've thought they'd let you in on the joke as a girl but ig they don't see you as one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:13 AM
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Why do men literally go out of their way to make themselves look ugly? You say that as if there isn't an epidemic of women getting breast reductions right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:44 AM
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It matters with respect to specific individuals but it doesn't matter on the whole outside of extremes. Your values may clash with a guy, but another woman's won't. Basically half of women voted for Trump. The saying "there's someone for everyone" is basically true when it comes to personality because there isn't a strict hierarchy of preference like there is for attractiveness. Dumb people prefer dumb people. Boring people prefer boring people. Preference for personality actually is subjective.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:35 AM
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I suspect there is a significant difference in what the 7% who voted left and the 27% who voted right look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:18 PM
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You should be banned for flair fraud. Zero women know what a 9070xt is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:43 PM
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Extreme introvert, to the point that she never leaves the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:40 PM
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This won't happen because men desire sex too much and that isn't going to change. If you want change, it will have to be top-down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:22 PM
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So what? You refuse threesomes and get breast reductions just to prove that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:38 PM
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People who can't paragraph should be placed in camps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:10 PM
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they're less likely to fetishize my sexuality. Why are you wasting your bisexuality. Bisexual women refusing threesomes is almost as bad as busty women getting breast reductions. Women want to remove happiness from the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:02 PM
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Never understood her appeal. Skinny women DISGUST me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:39 AM
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<image> More like
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:32 PM
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That's not chocolate...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:49 PM
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The man vs bear thing has probably been the worst PR for women in at least the last decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:23 PM
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She's a 6. She deserves to have a guy reluctantly marry her when she's 32 and been pushing for it for several years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:41 PM
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She does not warrant their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:35 PM
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He looks like he lost an inch of hairline, which is the biggest downgrade of all. If you swapped the hairlines women would prefer the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:30 PM
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Bye bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:27 PM
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No, there are rationalized aversions, potentially even some evolved aversions (like increased risk of a promiscuous man having STDs), but there is no evolutionary basis for women to have an aversion to male promiscuity anything like what men have to female promiscuity, because they can never be the victim of cuckoldry. Cuckoldry to men poses the same opportunity cost that rape poses to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:25 PM
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She may not, but if she doesn’t, it won't because she inherited an evolved aversion to male promiscuity like men do to female promiscuity, because men had no obligation to their kids for the vast majority of human history wherein our evolved traits formed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:08 PM
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It does have to do with "most" though, which was the word you used.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:01 PM
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No, I said men had no obligation to their kids for the vast majority of human history, not in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:47 PM
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Men had no obligation to those kids for the vast majority of human history wherein these traits evolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:42 PM
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Your math appears to be off, because in the last election your bunch was the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:40 PM
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A man having children all over the place does not pose the same opportunity cost to a woman that a man potentially unknowingly raising a child that isn't his does to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:37 PM
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No, the objective reality matches my perspective. You don't see this because your observations are skewed by your personal perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:04 PM
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No, it's a misconception that sexually unsuccessful men are never close enough to women for them to share these details. They are happy to if they feel like they won't be judged for it, which ties into another misconception, which is the idea that women can always tell when a guy holds judgemental views of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:03 PM
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My observations of how society treats men vs women. What I mentioned in my original comment is an example of that asymmetrical treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:57 PM
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It is a common misconception that sexually unsuccessful men don't interact with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:55 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:45 PM
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As in our society generally favors women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:43 PM
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I don't entirely agree with your point but it is evidence of our gynocentric society that the man/penis is always to blame. Can't get hard? He's pornsick. Can't get wet? He's not turning her on. He can't cum? He has death grip syndrome. She can't cum? He's bad in bed. She can't feel it? Always penis too small, never vagina too loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:29 PM
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I don't "expect" that either. Nevertheless I am disgusted by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:20 PM
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No I realized that was my mistake. I meant maternal in regards to the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:45 AM
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Or women who have other men's penis cooties on them I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:38 AM
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I didn't say get mad either, I said be disgusted by.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:33 AM
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Our own yeah. It's other men's we want to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:32 AM
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Yes. But we're not offended by our own penis cooties. Few of us are averse to touching our own cocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:20 AM
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I don't know or care about what she was "supposed" to be doing. That doesn't mean men can't be disgusted by what she did.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:10 AM
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They have penis cooties on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:05 AM
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A.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:04 AM
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She has a very wifeable backside.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:52 AM
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If you won't let another man rub his cock all over your girlfriend that means you're insecure. Didn't you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:32 PM
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I'm voting for Trump because Shannon Sharpe was accused of sexual assault!!! In part yes. Though there are many straws on that camel's back.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:19 PM
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Nah, still human, just women. Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:11 PM
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I don't think you should trust a woman to even know her own mind let alone be honest about what she thinks she knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:34 PM
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We'll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:55 PM
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Every time women rally behind a whore like her falsely accusing a man to secure his money or for fame or attention, another percent of men are radicalized. You are practically begging for a third Trump term at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:35 PM
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what legitimate reasons are there for seeking a relationship with a woman 35 years younger than you? They're hotter?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:26 PM
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It's not impossible, just improbable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:19 PM
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Tell that to the women who feel the need to lie about their preferences at every opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:04 PM
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Yeah if she's slept with 200 men it's delusion to take her words at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:40 PM
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Why is woman in your flair
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:32 PM
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Can you link the tiktok this comment was posted under?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:55 PM
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Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:45 PM
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It's also an absurd idea that the female desire for new partners straight up doesn't exist. Whether something is working for me or you is irrelevant to this discussion, we are singular data points. Though I suspect this notion is lost on the female brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:20 AM
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That doesn't exist, either. Yes it does. So don't go on dates with people who enjoy going to bars or clubs. It's truly not that difficult. I'm not saying that's difficult. Just because I once saw a guy at a bar that I wanted to climb like a tree doesn't mean that I'm tempted by men now in my relationship. I simply don't believe you. Yes, it's absolutely an unsafe assumption. Yes it is. Unless you are saying you either loved or were married to every man you've had sex with, then it would be a cor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:01 AM
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What? I'm not saying women know who the father is, I'm saying they know they're the mother. Men don't know they're the father, and they can be less sure that they are in precisely the situation you describe; when she was having sex with multiple partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:31 AM
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The fact that they pushed the baby out of their pussy is concrete enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:27 AM
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By sexual novelty I meant desire for new partners. This is how I've always seen this term used. I don't want a woman who has that. There's a lot of semantics in your responses that I don't care about. Whether desire to go to clubs/bars or need for validation are technically "personality traits" or not is completely unimportant. The important point is that they're traits that are unlikely to disappear just because she entered a relationship. By ability to find men attractive quicker I mean they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:16 AM
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Desire for sex, desire for sexual novelty, ability to find men attractive faster, desire for experiences that often lead to sex (eg bars/clubs), greater need for validation, lack of belief in sanctity of sex. A promiscuous woman will not necessarily have all these traits but she will have at least some and they won't disappear just because she entered a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:51 AM
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Nah, promiscuity correlates with infidelity. You wouldn't even need any "studies" to show this (though I'm pretty sure they do) because it's self evident. The personality traits that lead a woman to be promiscuous do not magically disappear just because she entered a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:42 AM
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Having sexual thoughts about another man is cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:39 AM
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Me every time women speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:37 AM
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I am not saying I am magically affected by their promiscuity by virtue of their mere existence. I am saying I would be affected by it if I were to date them, because they'd be more likely to cheat and less likely to be satisfied with me, and thus it is something I should watch out for. People massively overstate the degree to which social circles self segregate on the basis of promiscuity. Every social circle I've been in had people on both ends of the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:33 AM
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I don't even know what you're talking about. What "situation" am I putting myself in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:14 AM
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Female trait: using the shrug emoji when you're trying to communicate you're not bothered by something you're very much bothered by.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:10 AM
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It does affect me, but still I am not claiming my anecdotal experience is relevant, based on the simple fact that I am just one data point. You are claiming yours is relevant, and I am pointing out it isn't, even if you were 10000 data points, because you are a woman and not affected by other women's promiscuity anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:07 AM
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I meant other women's promiscuity doesn't affect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:58 AM
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Women are not even remotely as biased against promiscuous men because they have paternal certainty. I dismiss the first thing you said on logic alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:51 AM
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You are a woman, female promiscuity isn't something that would affect you either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:48 AM
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If you toss a coin, what is the likelihood that it lands on heads? If you toss 200 coins, what is the likelihood that they all land on heads?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:44 AM
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I wouldn't care if my gf had n=200, because I'm still the best. Cuck delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:40 AM
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It's not odd, your anecdotes are odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:37 AM
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Reminder that the male aversion to female promiscuity is an evolved trait caused by the fact that men couldn't have paternal certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:36 AM
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This is a remix of a post originally made by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:25 AM
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You don't want to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:24 AM
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Remove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:21 AM
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Teacher! Teacher!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:20 AM
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women placed more importance Women placed more importance or women said they placed more importance?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:25 PM
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Explain to me why Asian women exist, if not to be girlfriends to ugly white men. You can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:31 PM
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Yes, until I found someone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:29 PM
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Even more disturbing than the fact that a woman felt safe enough to announce this publicly with her face and name attached is the 1279 likes it recieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:04 PM
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Correct, my earlier statement was devoid of stupidty before and after my most recent statement equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:19 PM
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The more popular usage of that term would be to refer to men who participate in the manophere subculture. Which is why men like Andrew Tate are referred to as such, despite being very much sexhaving. I don't think this is the most useful meaning of the word but it is the most popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:17 PM
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We weren't talking about involuntary, we were talking about incel, which is it's own neologism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:12 PM
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Language having subjective meaning is not something I made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:10 PM
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We are not talking about involuntary, we are talking about incel, which is it's own neologism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:02 PM
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That's the kind of waist I deserve in a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:57 PM
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People with downs syndrome it's your fault you can't do calculus. I don't agree. "Fault" should be limited to the choices people make, not the genetic hand they were dealt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:45 PM
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Do you think words have objective meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:38 PM
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This proves the opposite of what you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:36 PM
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If you want to die on the hill that a man refusing sex with a goat is not an incel then go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:34 PM
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You seem to be one of those people that doesn't understand that the meaning of words is subjective. The irony is that the most popularly held understanding of that word doesn't have much to do with having sex (or not) at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:33 PM
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For the same reason sex with another man or with an animal doesn't count; it's not the kind of sex that anybody who identifies with that term wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:31 PM
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One of the dumbest things about this sub is allowing posts that incite a debate for which there is generally two sides but where one of them is banned from being expressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:29 PM
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Yes words can take on meanings beyond their compounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:25 PM
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We were talking about incel, not celibacy. Incel is it's own neologism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:22 PM
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No, paid sex doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:20 PM
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How am I struggling with the definition of celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:19 PM
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It is apparent that you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:04 PM
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I don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:03 PM
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No, both are involuntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:50 PM
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This is like saying a person with downs syndrome has themself to blame for being unable to do calculus.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:46 PM
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How is it possible that a man has never worked? Did he go straight from being supported by his family to being supported by you? Was he homeless?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:11 AM
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Obviously that would be bad. I was assuming she didn't care that I earned less.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:08 AM
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Ideal marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:47 AM
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Why are there SO MANY women in this series that would willingly sleep with a serial killer. Yeah so unrealistic. This would never happen in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:29 AM
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You mean 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:29 AM
1

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:56 PM
1

Their
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:52 PM
1

This does not mean they are equally valuable. Your value is determined by how much people want you or what you provide and how many or few other people are able to provide it. How much people are willing to pay you is a good measurement of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:50 PM
-2

I think what you said is incorrect, but whether it's gaslighting depends on how much you genuinely believe it, and I don't think it's likely you do very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:07 PM
2

Do you intend to be celibate on this trip, yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:18 PM
7

a girls trip You mean sex tourism
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:10 PM
1

I don't understand why you would care that another man is better at foreplay than you if you have a bigger dick than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:08 PM
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There's the gaslighting I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:02 PM
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You are implicitly downplaying it by insisting personality is a significant factor in which men women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:58 PM
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The irony of this post is that you speak out of both sides of your mouth in the exact way society does toward men. You simultaneously assert that it's always been obvious that X traits are what women find attractive while also downplaying how much women care about those traits. The latter thing is the gaslighting we're referring to. This is as explicitly as I can state this without breaking this sub's dumb rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:54 PM
1

I give the show credit for not depicting the girl as some innocent blameless victim. A lesser show would go out of its way to portray the victim as having no hand in their own demise but this show made it clear that the girl was bullying Jamie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:05 AM
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Women should stop speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:45 PM
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So did he say PPD is real life or just online is real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:55 PM
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Are you literate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:26 PM
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Did he say PPD is real life or just online is real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:05 PM
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No it's the girl who doesn't care about height who just so happens to have a 6'4 bf. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:40 AM
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There is a 100% chance that all three women dating them have told short men, ugly men and poor men that they don't go for height, looks or money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:36 AM
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They're "allowed" to be attracted to whatever they want, they should just stop lying about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:28 AM
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I am pro societal collapse thus antinatalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:51 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:50 PM
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The last thing we need is state enforced cuckoldry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:46 PM
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It is evidence of our generally gynocentric society that dick shaming is completely normal and acceptable but "loose vag energy" or "roast beef energy" would be cause for social ostracization and being branded a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:43 PM
1

Major femcel vibes sis... yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:59 PM
3

More likely they do but don't think they're problems because of gynocentric societal brainwashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:56 PM
2

If your girlfriend/wife doesn't orgasm from giving you a blowjob then she's not attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:46 PM
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He should vet for sexual enthusiasm. I don't know about strategy for how to actually attract that (assuming that's even possible), but he can at least vet against a lack of it. The problem is that normie society teaches men that having sexual expectations of their girlfriend/wife is abusive and/or a symptom of "pornsickness", and that if his expectations aren't being met then it's entirely a problem with him and not her. Most betabuxx men don't know they're betabuxx and don't fully understand th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:35 PM
2

Woman moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:27 PM
2

Woman moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:15 PM
2

Woman moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:11 PM
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Woman moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:05 PM
2

Because he couldn't get any better? Yes men will accept bottom of the barrel women if there's no better option, that doesn't mean that's what they prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:57 PM
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This is completely delusional. No man without a cuck fetish wants a ran through woman. From Chad to incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:47 PM
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Yeah before porn men dreamed of flat, ran through 60 year old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:34 PM
14

No, they show people SAY kindness is their most sought after trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:26 PM
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Why are women INCAPABLE of depersonalized debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:12 PM
1

OP: "Men shouldn't be shamed for wanting X." You: "If you want X, you should do Y." Why is this how women respond to everything? Nowhere in your comment did you actually debate the point OP made.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:08 PM
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No, to think your dick size doesn't matter to her because she loves you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:28 PM
1

I think it's more that most people haven't accepted it but just live in denial of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:11 PM
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The ones who think it is a bonus! Which is the worst in my opinion. 100%. I love how they always describe things like this as a "bonus" as though that's some consolation when that's even worse than just going for your preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:07 PM
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Sounds preferable to knowing she'd find a larger dick than mine more exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:04 PM
0

I find that incredibly disturbing, especially when it comes to sexual preferences, and I don't understand why more men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:58 PM
14

Who tf would rather be the one who's preferred long term over the one who's the "exciting" experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:50 PM
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Cause then she's dating a man who doesn't fit her preference, which is bad for both if them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:47 PM
3

A lot of them will just tell you that they have a preference for larger, but also won't not date a guy just because his is average or maybe even below. This is even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:36 PM
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By that time, they love him, wouldn’t matter what size he is. LOL. Bluest blooper take ever posted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:34 PM
13

You just "Just" is an odd word to use when describing a feat that is impossible for most men to accomplish.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:32 PM
1

I think you know your logic is flawed, but in classic woman fashion, don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:19 PM
1

So to conclude, a masseuse rubbing her hands on my back is not using her body, but her rubbing her hands on my penis is. Flawless logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:34 PM
1

Ok. That doesn't mean the average lifespan of sex workers in the first world is 34.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:29 PM
1

So is getting a back massage. Do you also believe that is immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:28 PM
1

How is commodifying sex immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:25 PM
1

So how is it more immoral to pay a masseuse to massage my penis than my back?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:20 PM
1

I think you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:07 AM
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Men are attracted to women from the age of consent up to menopause, regardless of the man's own age. Though the most attractive women tend to be on the younger end of that spectrum. What women really lose with age is cuteness rather than hotness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:55 AM
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Pulling the mod card... woman moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:51 AM
1

Does your boyfriend know you flirt with other men online like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:45 AM
1

You really want to see it don't you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:25 AM
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You are dangerously close to receiving a pic of my extremely white cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:19 AM
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If that's what you need to tell yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:12 AM
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Your intuitions are poorly calibrated if you think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:09 AM
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I didn’t say anything about my man or what I do for him. Like I said, you said it without saying it. Tasting nut is not attraction. It’s like saying you’re not attracted to women unless you eat her out while she’s all sweaty or on her period. It's not like that, because men and women are different. The male does not recieve the female.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:07 AM
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Tell me you're not attracted to your man without telling me you're not attracted to your man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:59 AM
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You'd leave that religion if you were attracted to your man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:54 AM
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If by that you mean unprotected sex ending in creampies with multiple hot women on a daily basis for free, then I don't mind at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:52 AM
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To verify this I'm going to start keeping count of the times you condemn Johns and regular phone upgraders. If there is a significant disparity, expect to hear from me. I don't mind being scum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:43 AM
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The ethics of consumption under capitalism is a spectrum. Buying a new smartphone every year is twice as bad as buying one every two years. Etc. If you rarely upgrade your phone then I commend you only being a partial hypocrite. Though I hope you are as vocal in your criticism those who upgrade every one or two years as you are of Johns. I have the latest iPhone. I also have no problem with Johns though, so there's no logical contradiction here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:38 AM
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Absolutely not. The male does not recieve the female.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:31 AM
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If my wife cooked a shitty meal I'd divorce her. I'm also male though so it's not even analogous. The male does not recieve the female.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:26 AM
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Perhaps, but sex is more of a need than having the latest iPhone so it all balances out. It's also funny that the line you draw for what is an acceptable crime for you to enjoy a luxury is somewhere between child labor and rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:23 AM
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Great argument 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:16 AM
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It does change whether you enjoy having it in your mouth. Assuming you're attracted to the man who produced it, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:14 AM
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Well if you're fine with turning to child labor for a new smartphone every few years then you should also be fine with men turning to questionably consenting women for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:12 AM
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Steps? No. Strokes? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:08 AM
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No, I'm not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:07 AM
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It's something you have to figure out for yourself. Again best of luck 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:02 AM
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I don't know you. But judging by your comments you don't strike me as the "type", y'know? Best of luck though 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:58 AM
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Says a lot about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:54 AM
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Many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:50 AM
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You don't think you're kinda putting the cart before the horse?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:49 AM
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Wrong. Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:49 AM
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A woman who does not crave her man nutting in her mouth is not attracted to her man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:37 AM
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The female brain strikes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:29 AM
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To not uphold patriarchy, if that's something you're interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:27 AM
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Isn't this a bit presumptuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:24 AM
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You are a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:20 AM
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Non sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:15 AM
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I am simply curious what he thinks of that, if he knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:13 AM
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The female brain is truly incapable of depersonalized conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:09 AM
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I’ve been with much funnier men, smarter men and more conventionally attractive men. Does he know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:06 AM
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Sex is more of a need that the things you think want a smartphone for. It's completely possible to live life with an ethically sourced phone, you just don't want to give up the parts of your life that would require. Just like a John doesn't want to give up sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:02 AM
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Says you. JK. In all seriousness... so if the sex worker just gives me a hand job then it's all good? Why is the act of penetration what makes it go from a service to "commodification" of her body?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:59 PM
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It is no more immoral than going to a masseuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:50 PM
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Can you guarantee your phone isn't made from minerals mined with child labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:49 PM
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The average lifespan for a sex worker is 34 years old. Highly doubt this is true of sex workers in the first world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:45 PM
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Where did he say talk about it in preschools? There are many things that should he talked about in society, but not in preschools (among other settings). This is a laughable rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:44 PM
2

Most of these perceived group hypocrisies are just different members of a group acting differently, not actually individuals being hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:14 AM
3

Extremely perverted suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:59 AM
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Hope they send him there. An example should be made of him. He is a home grown terrorist after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:47 AM
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So like 45 in woman years
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:40 AM
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Damn you must be ancient
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:36 AM
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If I had access to a hot woman's vagina I would never log into this account ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:35 AM
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It doesn't count if she's not attracted to you, and his wives definitely aren't attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:31 AM
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Galaxy brain IQ to tell people your left arm was paralyzed in a snowmobile accident to explain why your right is so much bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 08:55 PM
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You should be sent to El Salvador.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 08:41 PM
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You think she's ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 08:39 PM
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She's really pretty. I deserve multiple girlfriends who look like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 08:36 PM
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It should be irrelevant because they should never enter someone's cone of vision.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 08:35 PM
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seeing women as objects This is equally melodramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 08:20 PM
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doesn’t really indicate seeing women as people Why are women so fucking melodramatic. Lying to a woman =/= thinking she isn't a homosapien.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 07:20 PM
2

They probably added more women to the mod team
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:25 PM
1

Having email notifications enabled for Reddit comments is legitimately psychotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:23 PM
2

The ability to be honest about what I find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:12 PM
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No you wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:47 AM
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This is one of the biggest loads of BS women spout. What percentage of women with a gun to their head and told to fuck a guy they don't want to would actually choose to take the bullet? I don't believe more than a single percentage would. Just like I don't believe more than a single percentage of women should genuinely choose to be alone with a bear in the woods over a man. Just pure stupid woman nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:38 AM
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I've read it as women deceive themselves by saying that they don't care about what people on Reddit think about them. No, what they're deceiving themselves about is their physical preferences. Expressing these lies is not to decieve others but to decieve themselves, thus it is irrelevant whether they care that others on Reddit believe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:15 PM
1

I think you misread what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:50 PM
1

Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:23 PM
-2

I did it's incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:06 PM
-2

No you sounded mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:54 PM
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You think I give a shit what people on reddit think absolutely not. These kind of lies that women tell are not so much about deceiving others as they are about deceiving themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:42 PM
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Nah I bet some exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:28 PM
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Because it sounds like you want a virgin pornstar Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:22 PM
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A “jealous rage” lmao! Lmao. Lmao. 🤷‍♀️ You're doing too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:10 AM
1

Probably much more often ends up with him hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:55 PM
1

No I'm not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:16 PM
0

Yeah you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:37 PM
1

Very ironic thing for a woman to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:22 PM
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If you gave women a magic button that would end all suffering experienced by women, not a single one of them would press it because more than anything else in the world women want to maintain their victim status.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:37 PM
0

No they were very mad and couldn't hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:23 PM
-1

I've had tens of thousands of women on social media get mad at me because I said a woman was mid. People care what strangers think because they are proxies for the people whose opinion they care about personally. It's not that women want me specifically to think they're hot, but they know that what I think is hot is also likely to be what their boyfriend/husband/guy they like think is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:16 PM
-3

Yeah you conceded that this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:52 PM
-5

This is a concession.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:48 PM
-2

We're not talking about strangers specifically, but still, what strangers think of you is likely to be decently representative of what individuals you know personally think of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:13 PM
2

It just so happens...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:03 PM
1

Most women below that height are autopedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:02 PM
-15

Actually it's pathetic and nonhuman to not care what the opposite sex thinks of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:01 PM
6

None. There is no such thing as a lonely woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:29 PM
2

Women in his own league are probably a non-starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:27 PM
2

Do you understand what the just world fallacy is?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:11 AM
1

You aren't. In fact you are nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:21 AM
4

Most men are not aware they're BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:20 AM
1

You don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:35 PM
2

False.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:34 PM
3

Most men would choose sexlessness over being a cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:32 PM
1

You make a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:30 PM
12

Every dude dating a woman who "grew to find him attractive over time" is a cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 09:26 PM
1

Differences between men and women does not mean one is not human.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:12 PM
0

Men don't exhibit violence broadly. Only a minority of men exhibit violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:11 PM
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There is no logical advantages to dating a low n count women A lower likelihood of infidelity is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:21 AM
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Who you protecting us from, yourselves? Protecting a woman from other men =/= protecting a woman from yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:19 AM
2

Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:14 AM
-1

No, women exhibit this behaviour broadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:14 AM
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Whether an evolutionary explanation functions as a scapegoat has no bearing on whether it is true or not, and in this case there is not even any need for a scapegoat, as preference for non promiscuous women is not a moral issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:13 AM
1

No, I view women as human.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:06 AM
1

Women have fucked me, just not the ones I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:03 AM
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Modern soyciety sorely lacks muh biology dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:02 AM
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You're definitely a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:58 AM
3

This is not a pedantic distinction. That you can't see the distinction explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:56 AM
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This is a laughably asinine counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:55 AM
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Finding something undesirable is not a moral condemnation, which you tried to characterize his position as.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:51 AM
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most men couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag Most men in the modern world* For most of human history, during which our psychology evolved, most men were physical capable. You can still see this in tribes today. Our environment has changed at a rate far greater than evolution occurs though, so our psychology is still calibrated for the environment we lived in thousands of years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:48 AM
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Did he say bad behavior or did he just say behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:40 AM
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Men evolved disgust for female promiscuity because males do not have paternal certainty. Nothing more to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:37 AM
-1

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:33 AM
1

I don't agree that the red pill is misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:33 AM
6

Womanmath moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:23 AM
2

Among other things, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:22 AM
-1

No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:21 AM
2

Most of them are unknowingly raising Chuack's offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:14 AM
2

My impression was generous actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:10 AM
-2

By your logic women should all hate men because of the disproportionate amount of violence that Men (tm) inflict on people weaker than themselves. No. Only a minority of men commit violence against women, whereas all women exhibit red pilling behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:09 AM
6

Seeing women as humans negatively correlates with sexual success.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:07 AM
0

"But but but but" - you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:06 AM
12

Feminists only critique each other for not being feminist enough. No feminist has ever critiqued another for going too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:02 PM
2

This wasn't the crux of your point, but one of the most annoying claims I see made on here is the idea that attractiveness stops mattering or has diminishing returns once it meets a certain threshold. Just because you meet the threshold of attractiveness at which a woman will consider you, does not mean that you are in the same position with regards to her as a much more attractive man. She will not desire you sexually as much as him, she will expect more effort from you, she put in less effort …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:25 AM
1

The only reason I want to eat pussy is to sate my own carnal desires. I do not care about her pleasure one iota.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 11:41 PM
3

Your girlfriend should want to suck your dick for her own pleasure as much as (if not more than) yours. True or false?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 11:32 PM
1

There are 5 times as many men on Tinder as there are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:41 PM
1

Cause he's more likely to find a 5 who'll accept just hooking up, he doesn't have to put in as much effort with a 5, he has more leverage over a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:51 PM
6

Mindset is never the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:34 AM
1

You are just plain wrong. Tinder exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 10:48 AM
2

If you can't get NSA sex off an app then women don't find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:31 AM
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Another self agedox
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:45 PM
1

Think about what you're saying here and notice what it betrays about your intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:39 PM
1

Then you're going to the wrong place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:44 AM
1

Does your mind struggle to imagine how the arbitrary lines you are drawing around causes and effects to identify a "direct" cause could easily be drawn differently to identify a different one? A baby doesn't grow magically, the mother must feed it by feeding herself. There's your "direct" cause of a baby being born.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:36 AM
2

Video game tee of some kind. Preferably one that is too small for her and strained by her breasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:37 AM
3

I think feminism will dig it's heels in further and exacerbate the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:34 AM
1

We are not talking about a pregnancy occurring, we are talking about a child being born, which requires a lot of choices from the woman after pregnancy to occurr.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:32 AM
1

Is this what "not checking out other men" sounds like Saw this GORGEOUS man in the gym earlier-- brunette, mustache, stunning musculature, tjust the right height, hot cutoff shirt-- and was straight lusting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 11:47 PM
1

I think you've already forgotten you should assume that generalized statements made in this sub are about western societies unless stated otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 10:30 PM
-1

Inaction is a choice. Not taking plan b or not getting an abortion is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 10:28 PM
1

Thanks Trump (unironically)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:09 PM
2

I'd make women find intelligence sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:30 PM
1

Like I said, I'm not a red piller and don't believe it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:23 PM
1

Debating women online
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:21 PM
1

No, men are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:15 PM
3

Like I said, most men have a handful of committed relationships and a hookup here and there in their entire lives. Mostly with mid women too. This is not what the red pill is trying to teach. It is precisely this demo of men that the red pill is intended to be for. It isn't meant to be for hopeless cases, but of course that is most of who end up paying attention to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:15 PM
4

I said trying to teach. I don't think it works, nor am I a red piller, but that's beside the point. The point is that most men don't naturally figure out how to accomplish what the red pill tries to teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:06 PM
1

Unpopular opinion: taken women should not look at other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:04 PM
6

You think the average young man wouldn't sleep around with many hot women if that option was available to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:00 PM
2

I feel like writing that first paragraph and then following up with "my husband" is bait. If not, my condolences to your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:57 PM
3

I wish women rejected men for regarding them as lesser, but women don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:54 PM
7

Most men figure this shit out on their own Actually they don't. Most men figure out, at best, how to have between one to several committed relationships, maybe a hook up or two in their entire lives. This is not what the red pill is trying to teach men to achieve. This would be a failure by red pill's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:53 PM
1

Sex no more "directly" leads to a child being born than dressing provocatively leads to sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:45 PM
4

I don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:26 PM
2

So I was right, you don't realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:25 PM
2

I hope you wouldn't say the same thing to women who dress provocatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:24 PM
-1

Regarding women as lesser than has no affect on women's attraction, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:23 PM
1

The elderly, widows/widowers, orphans, foster kids, teenagers, disabled kids and domestic animals behave in way that inspires empathy. Modern women do not, toward below average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 05:33 PM
4

all of the sudden men want their daughters to have rights. So for the vast majority of civilized history and still in much of the world today, wherein women didn't/don't have these "rights", did men just hate their daughters?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 05:29 PM
-1

Nome of this is an argument why below average men should support women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 05:21 PM
3

You don't realize it, but this comment betrays your intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 05:17 PM
2

No, reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:07 PM
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No matter what misfortune may befall you, no matter how hopeless your circumstance may be, fear not. You can always "go to therapy". And if you won't go to therapy, well then you only have yourself to blame for your suffering. And if you did go to therapy but it didn't help you, well then you didn't do it properly and only have yourself to blame for your suffering. This is the logic of the therapy enthusiast.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:44 PM
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Making a baby with someone's sperm without their consent is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:41 PM
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I went to a therapist for a brief period but she was clearly terrible at her job. She would get mad at me for saying I wanted to have sex with hot women. She must've had personal hangups about the topic and I hit a little too close to home. I only kept going because she was super hot for an older woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:39 PM
2

No, my source is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:33 PM
2

The US is a gynocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:31 PM
4

You should assume that generalized statements made in this sub are about western societies unless stated otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 02:22 PM
5

We're not talking about the middle east.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:01 PM
1

No I just think rapists should be held accountable regardless of their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:57 PM
0

So just like feminists complaining about the patriarchy. No, because patriarchy doesn't exist. Gynocracy does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:56 PM
-3

True, we live in a gynocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:51 PM
2

Given that we live in a gynocracy that allows women to non-consensually make babies with men's sperm, I would advise men the same way if they don't want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:51 PM
2

Wanting sex with virgins is not a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:37 PM
-1

Ejaculating inside a woman =/= consenting to her making a baby with your sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:31 PM
1

I've nearly crashed my car countless times due to barely-dressed women in the summer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:50 AM
-1

This is not relevant to my comment then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:47 AM
1

This woman has a mustache.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:46 AM
1

The latter. Preferably she would speak so quietly that I wouldn't hear her at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:45 AM
1

i've never seen someone more hated than this gay bottom who make porn videos with hot gay for pay straight guys. This sentence is impossible to decipher.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:44 AM
1

I do not understand why any man would want to have sex with a woman who very likely had other men's hands and genitals all over her very recently. It's absolutely disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:41 AM
3

You either had abnormally high access to sex or abnormally low desire for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:07 AM
4

Discipline is about decisions, not desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:06 AM
12

This is like telling men to just stop desiring sex. It's never going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:20 PM
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It is part of the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:56 AM
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Observing cause and effect is not the same as assigning blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:17 AM
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Men don't need close friends, nor are their needs met when they have them. Men need to be viewed as viable mates by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:15 AM
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Kinda an admission of guilt tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:31 AM
2

I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:27 PM
3

I also desire this. I will not lift a finger to bring it about, though. It should just happen to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:46 PM
2

No I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:43 PM
4

He could've done so much better. Leftist men always date down massively.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:35 PM
1

Ok. In this case you are wishcasting though. The idea that no women are ever attracted to older men is so ridiculous it's sort of amazing that you can't see you're wishcasting when you say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:27 PM
1

Yeah it's female wishcasting to say women are never attracted to older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:21 PM
1

Female wishcasting again. It is obviously not true that women are never attracted to older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:18 PM
1

If he's paying for it yeah. Not if she's genuinely attracted to him though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:04 PM
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A man in his 30s who can genuinely attract 20 year old women is the exact opposite of a loser. It's extreme female wishcasting to pretend otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:00 PM
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He's only a loser if she's only with him for his money. While that is probably more often the case than not, it's still the necessary condition for him to be a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:41 PM
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No my analogy was that deprived African children have access to disease-ridden water.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:26 AM
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Other people who shop at Walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:07 AM
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People who shop at Walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:34 PM
1

Similarly, I crave ejaculating inside a woman's rectum, though I have never done it. We are so alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:22 PM
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A lot of deprived African children have access to disease-ridden water too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:15 PM
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Life without experiencing sexual excitement and arousal would be empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:52 PM
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You just imagined he said a bunch of stuff he didn't say and then got mad at your own imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:07 AM
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No. Looks matter at every level. All else being equal, a 9 will attract more people, hotter people, attract them with less effort and have more leverage in relationships than a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:27 AM
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Are you even reading what I'm saying? I'm not saying that women do sleep with 100+ above average men by the time they're 20, or that they want to, or that it would be healthy for them to. I am saying they could if they wanted to. Almost no men could do this without paying for it. I am pointing out the disparity in sexual access between men and women. And yes I am talking about an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 12:55 PM
1

For women, poverty is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:37 PM
1

This is cultural appropriation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:34 PM
2

Only women find this shit adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:31 PM
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Tattoos are definitely a net positive on attractiveness for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:16 PM
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So you saw something occur twice and concluded that this is a "trend" and that "men" think it's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:32 PM
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Men's rights activists don't need to focus on the problems facing women, the rest of society already does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:28 PM
1

A woman could easily find hundreds of above average men willing to sleep with her by the time she's 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:52 PM
2

their dating history (in numbers), is about the same as mine. The difference is that her numbers are entirely her own choice whereas yours are largely not. She could've easily chosen to have sex with hundreds of above average looking partners if she wanted to. You could not. How many users here actually say the average man has zero chance of finding any woman? The point is more the sheer disparity in how much easier it is for an average woman to find someone than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:23 AM
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I would much rather be threatened physically than reputationally or legally. The latter carries far worse consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:10 PM
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Yeah young men famously don't care about having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:45 AM
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Actually Trump is president.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:38 AM
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Most men don't need to think this way, just enough to tip the balance of an election.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:33 AM
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Do women only want abortion rights if men "actually support" it or do they just want abortion rights
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:31 AM
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What is it about the female brain that renders it incapable of having depersonalized discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 11:31 PM
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Nobody disagrees with healthy balances and compromises when necessary. The disagreement is about what balances and compromises qualify as healthy and necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 11:27 PM
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Success or failure with women is not a matter of what one does.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 10:40 PM
3

You are so incredibly delusional about what women actually care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 10:33 PM
2

No I'm saying hating women is the feeling many men will have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:02 PM
2

There is no "rat men" trend. Non-famous, non-rich men who look like Benedict Cumberbatch are not slaying. The only men who slay without paying for it are good looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:23 PM
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To other women reading this: don't you find posts like this offensive? Do you not feel erased when another woman tries to speak for you and claim you don't care about looks? Do you want men believing that you don't care about looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:19 PM
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I don't believe it is appropriate or inappropriate. It merely is the feeling many men will involuntarily have upon learning that no women will find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:08 PM
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Nope, I'd never date a woman I don't find physically attractive. I'm fine with women becoming misandrists because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:02 PM
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Every time a post like this goes viral 10,000 more boys become misogynists. Ignorance was the only thing keeping the peace between the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 04:49 PM
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No, you can be settled for at any age, it's just more likely the older she is because she's running out of time. It's not the only pressure to settle though. what do they want exactly? To not be settled for. Do you actually need someone to tell you that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:07 AM
8

Woman moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 09:09 PM
8

Women don't personalize a discussion challenge (impossible).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 09:08 PM
15

Women don't personalize a discussion challenge (impossible).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 09:02 PM
19

Valuing women as equals does not solve men's problems with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 08:45 PM
3

Remove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 04:46 PM
8

Are you going to listen to what we're literally saying we want? What women say they want says nothing about what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:37 AM
1

If you're fine with homosexual people being judged then at least you're consistent. I'm not fine with it though, just as I'm not fine with men being judged for being in age gap relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:52 AM
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Yeah and I disagree. I think judging either is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:31 AM
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Yes and the argument here is that it's wrong to judge someone for it just like it's wrong to judge someone for having homosexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:09 AM
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Pretty much all modern women have convinced themselves to an almost schizophrenic degree that they are victims and they cling to their victim status like their life depends on it. They deny that women enjoy any privilege or power over men until they are blue in the face so they will never concede that this is a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:24 PM
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What are you talking about. Men's self worth isn't tied to sexual success because of "patriarchy", it's tied to sexual success because of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 07:26 AM
1

Woman moment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:31 AM
1

Woman moment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:32 AM
2

She's postwall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 04:04 PM
1

I genuinely hate this build on a woman. Literally nothing to find attractive about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:04 PM
1

ITT: Lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:23 PM
1

Woman moment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:17 PM
1

No, where women don't care about attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:49 AM
1

No, I'm saying my attitude has had no effect on my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 08:10 AM
1

It has had zero effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:48 PM
1

Women don't care about attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:28 AM
1

No, women don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:23 PM
2

Okay woman who's lying about how her body works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 09:16 AM
2

Women don’t orgasm conditionally on whether a guy is hot. Biggest lie in the history of ideas being articulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:06 AM
2

Normally I'd be inclined to agree that women are that irrational but ironically you disproved that earlier by acknowledging the distinction you now claim women can't notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:39 AM
2

"Women will think X denotes Y" is very different point to "X denotes Y".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:28 AM
2

It let's you know he is unattractive to the women he wants*, a distinction you acknowledged in your earlier comment, and entirely contradicts the original commenter's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:20 AM
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No, that is a different point. The original commenter's claim that you seconded but inadvertently contradicted was that a man's attractiveness is affected by whether he is receptive to the women he attracts, not whether it is a red flag if he isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:13 AM
3

You are agreeing with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:03 AM
3

So you agree with him, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:54 AM
1

How can you possibly believe that. There is obviously a difference between a man who can't attract any woman and a man who only can't attract hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:52 AM
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If a man cannot attract the women he wants, he is unattractive to them. Do you not notice that you added "to them" on the end here, which is precisely the distinction they're arguing exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:50 AM
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I don't think it is a common thing but I've seen the concept debated on Reddit before and the general female sentiment seemed to be that it actually shouldn't be taken as an indication she believes he is abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:48 AM
0

Whether that is true or not is beside the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:22 PM
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Obviously I'm not talking about having a go bag for any reason other than suspecting that her husband could become abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:11 PM
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I feel like this part isn't brought up a lot. I agree. Something that I think is a major factor in our shifting culture, but that seems to go entirely unacknowledged, is how social media granted men a unfiltered view into the female mind. The reverse is not so true because men historically being the dominant cultural force already granted women an unfiltered view into the male mind. It's not that men before social media were completely oblivious to the nature of women, but there was never a mech…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:56 PM
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Duh. What else is it other than an expression of distrust? Would you believe the same about wives who keep "go bags"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:30 PM
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Still preferable to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:07 AM
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I just travel You mean "I'm a whore"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:41 AM
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Only the bad parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:30 AM
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So that women figure out how to feel genuine desire for a wider range of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:29 AM
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Perhaps it should.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:27 AM
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That's your job to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:24 AM
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Neither. We want women feel genuine desire for a wider range of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:21 AM
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Doesn't affect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:19 AM
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Dream bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:19 AM
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Hope Trump gets a third term.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:16 AM
1

Does that mean it's gay when a man sleeps with a woman with hairy legs? Yes. Does that mean if a man shaves his legs, he is now a woman, so any man who sleeps with him is perfectly straight? No it only works one way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:55 AM
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If a leg has hair, it's a man's leg. Don't care if it's attached to a woman, it's a man's leg.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:35 AM
2

these men genuinely want women to date ugly fat broke short dudes otherwise they're hypergamous bitches They're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:32 AM
2

I think there is some underexamined mechanism whereby people's threshold for physical attraction seems to rise to match their own physical attractiveness level. Or less attractive people just accept they don't get to feel much attraction to their partner since they're likely to be similarly unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:21 PM
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The only power women have over men that they can't be robbed of through force is female validation. A natural consequence of this is men whining when they don't get it. The absolute last thing women should be wishing for is for men to stop caring about female validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:33 PM
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Feel free. Don't act surprised by the consequences though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:24 PM
10

Disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:00 PM
15

I think it says a lot about women's preferences if it's more obvious that they care about looks than being treated like a human being. I don't really agree that that's the reason though. I think it's because women have this sense about themselves and other women that they generally "don't go for looks". They say "women just want a guy who treats them like a human being" deliberately as an antithesis to the idea that women care about looks (or money, status etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:59 PM
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I’d rather be with a guy who’s quirky-cute Right, so you don't "just" want a guy who treats you like a human being. Perhaps you personally are not one of the women who claims that, but many women do. It seems that they think not going for literal Chads means they're not going for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:40 PM
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Quote the "women bad" part. Why do women always commit this logical error? Criticizing you lying about your preferences =/= criticizing your preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:21 PM
21

What makes anyone think "I want someone I'm attracted to as a baseline, but she will feel differently" Dumb statements like "women just want a guy who treats them like a human being."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:15 PM
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with a woman at least around your level of attractiveness. That is an enormous caveat and immediately debunks the idea that women "just" want a guy who treats them like a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:11 PM
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I think men are judged harsher for expressing shallow preferences than women are, but either way it's a bold faced lie to say women "just want a guy who treats them like a human being" and it's good to point that out. The problem is that women tend to believe their own lies and if they derange themselves into schizophrenically believing that men who struggle in dating are just not treating women like human beings then they will hold undue resentment toward men and there are negative consequences…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:10 PM
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No. That's why men don't tell women en masse that they "just" want a woman who treats them like a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:59 PM
3

That doesn't mean the bar is in hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:57 PM
8

Each and every single woman has a different bar that is distinct from everyone else. Then women should stop talking about themselves as though they're all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:56 PM
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It really says something about how much women care about looks that it's so obvious it doesn't need mentioning but "treating her like a human being" does warrant mentioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:53 PM
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Difference is that men don't tell women en masse that they don't care about looks and just want a nice girl who makes them laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:52 PM
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For most men, sex with any regularity requires a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:04 PM
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For as long as the male sex drive remains what it is, this will never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 02:36 PM
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Except they do care, because women have vaginal morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:59 PM
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To me this would be no worse than her having previously been with a man she didn't pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:19 AM
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That's not the actual motivation behind their condemnation of it though. Women have vaginal morality. They believe in their vaginas that undesirable men getting sex for too low of a price is immoral in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:15 AM
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If paying is the only way you get pussy then you may as well spend it where your money goes much further.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:11 AM
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No, it's shocking that they settle for men they're less attracted to for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:15 PM
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If I were to only want a man for a one night stand (keep in mind I have no real life experience here) - he would have to be very physically attractive. But when you’re looking for a partner - you want all of it. They can be less physically attractive if they have other attractive qualities I already knew this, but hearing it straight from the horse's mouth is never not shocking/disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:25 PM
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Show me the data that says hot women have sex with ugly men just as often as they do with hot men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:14 AM
0

Is your capslock broken or something
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:56 PM
2

If you regularly go weeks without desiring sex with your boyfriend then you are not attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:41 PM
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This sub is implicitly about dating under 30 though, maybe 35 at most, because by then you're either married or a leftover. Either way you're no longer in the game by that age so the factors discussed here have no relevance. Same way this sub is implicitly about dating in sexually liberated societies, not in rural India or wherever the fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:11 PM
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I have no idea. I’ve never been Megan Fox hot. How can I honestly answer that? You just said Megan Fox wouldn't be interested in your husband. So you believe you know whether Megan Fox would be interested in your husband, but don't know whether you would be if you were as hot as her? Attraction also has so much more to do with personality and acts of love than does looks. If that were true then most couples wouldn't be looksmatched, but they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:58 PM
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Sex everyday is a monumental task when there’s work stress and family and all of that. If you really have a very stressful work and family life that inhibits your desire for sex then sure, it may not indicate a lack of attraction. I'm not saying you can't account for extraneous circumstances in asessing your partner's attraction. In fact you should. But in cases where there are little to no barriers to sex and sex is still not desired frequently, then that indicates a lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:56 PM
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So, if you were as hot as Megan Fox, you wouldn't find your husband attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:30 PM
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If your husband doesn't want sex with you every day with few exceptions then yeah I'd say he's not attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:26 PM
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It's setting yourself up for disappointment if women don't find you attractive yeah. The problem there is that women aren't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:25 PM
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If she was attracted to you then she would want it every day with few exceptions. If a woman wouldn't want that with any man then she's just asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:15 PM
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Alternatively he can date in his bracket, I know tons of uggos in tech who married other uggos. That doesn't mean she's attracted to him. If she was attracted to him, hot women would be attracted to him too. A woman being ugly doesn't cause her to have a different sexual nature to average and hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:10 PM
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If she doesn't want sex with you pretty much every day (exceptions for things like being sick are fine), then yes that does mean she isn't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:08 PM
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High value men having little to no standards or self respect is indeed a huge problem for the rest of us. I think sometimes they don't know their worth, but often they settle for less because it gives them more leverage in the relationship. She's less likely to be a nag or get really pushy about her own desires or be generally unpleasant if she knows she's unlikely to find another man of the same caliber if he were to leave. She also knows that he'll have lots of options presenting themselves to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:24 AM
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They are lying to you. Likely to themselves too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:01 PM
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The latter is a more serious problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:00 PM
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Couldn't date a woman whose boobs I didn't love. I'd feel like I had robbed myself of happiness being with her, and if an opportunity with a large chested woman presented itself I wouldn't be able to resist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:42 PM
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Weird? That's literally every bi woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:04 PM
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You forgot to add "tee hee" on the end there sis
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:03 PM
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Yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:51 AM
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The main focus of men when choosing a partner is the woman's appearance, so they believe women operate in the same way. No, women's actions are why we believe women are this way. Why have women gotten this idea in their head that men should believe what women say about themselves even when their actions don't match?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:47 PM
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You reveal that you know OP is correct by switching the discussion from hookups to prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:47 AM
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Hook ups would solve a man's "loneliness" far more than any amount of male or female friends, because "lonely" men aren't actually lonely, they're lacking validation as a suitable reproductive mate. It's just not socially acceptable for men to whine about lack of sex, so it's rebranded as "loneliness".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:33 AM
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I think it allows women to evade accountability by using language that frames "deserve" as an objective fact and not something women decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:31 PM
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You mean women decided those other men deserved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:02 PM
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When you know, you'll know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:23 PM
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Not for those who know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:21 PM
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How are you not getting this. You are comparing the actions of different people. I am comparing the actions of one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:17 PM
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That isn't analogous. You are comparing the actions of different people. I am comparing the actions of the same person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:14 PM
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Women expect men not to notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:07 PM
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imaginary ex Yeah because women never have sex with men on the first date or have anal sex or blow their boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:04 PM
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No, the analogy would be me having let a previous partner peg me but not let her. If I did that then yes that would be worse treatment. But I've never let a previous partner peg me, therefore I'm not treating a future partner worse to deny them it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:00 PM
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Do you dispite that giving someone a form of sex qualifies as "treatment"? Do you dispute that giving someone a form of sex they desire qualifies as "better" treatment than not giving them it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:45 PM
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It objectively, definitonally is. To say it isn't is to dismantle the definition of treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:41 PM
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You are arguing against an argument I haven't made.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:38 PM
3

It objectively is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:31 PM
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If someone doesn't want to do something they shouldn't need to unless there is a damn good reason for it. Sure. That doesn't men can't or shouldn't notice what it indicates if a woman lacks the desire to do those things for him. Especially so if she did for previous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:31 PM
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Actually it is if she did those things for a previous partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:23 PM
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No you didn't. Address this: If a woman made more effort to make a previous partner happy, or derived more happiness from being with them, or were more distraught by the thought of losing them, then she loved them more than she loves you. It is absolutely fine and normal and righteous to not want your partner to have loved a previous partner more than they love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:22 PM
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It is inherently insulting for a woman to expect you to date her despite her treating you worse than she did previous partners, so actually it's fine to be mad if she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:14 PM
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You didn't respond to what I said. If a woman made more effort to make a previous partner happy, or derived more happiness from being with them, or were more distraught by the thought of losing them, then she loved them more than she loves you. It is absolutely fine and normal and righteous to not want your partner to have loved a previous partner more than they love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:10 PM
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No it isn't. A greater level of adoration for his talents would simply mean wanting to consume the product of those talents more than those of the non-gifted kid. A greater level of adoration for him would mean making more effort to make him happy, deriving more happiness from spending time with him, being more distraught if they were to lose him. If a parent feels the latter things, then they do love their gifted kid more than their average kid. And the latter things are what are analogous to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:51 PM
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I didn't say a greater level of adoration for his talents, I said a greater level of adoration for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:42 PM
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It is disgusting that women make some men "earn" that place while giving it to other men immediately completely for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:40 PM
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If a parent treats their gifted son in ways that indicate a greater level of adoration then that does mean they love him more than the average son.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:34 PM
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If she doesn't treat you like Chad then you're not special to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:25 PM
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So you do mean sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:18 AM
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I don't think the only two options are used up hags or women who'll regret not being used up hags.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:17 AM
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Lucky guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:09 PM
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Youth is a greater component of female attractiveness than male attractiveness because it is a greater correlate with reproductive viability in women than in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:09 PM
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You are an honest to God dumb as bricks moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:02 PM
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I probably would have swiped left on my current BF if I saw him on one. Why would you say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 03:35 PM
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Actually men have zero obligation to not have sex with women who choose to have sex with them of their own free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 03:30 PM
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You are using bad logic to excuse women of accountability for their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:07 PM
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You are responsible for your choices when you are drunk if you chose to get drunk. You may not like that fact, but it is a fact nevertheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:13 PM
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No, you are responsible for your choices when you are drunk if you chose to get drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:49 PM
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That is not the mere fact that they are drunk, that is the fact that they are not lucid. If they are lucid enough to choose to have sex though, then that is consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:08 AM
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Any sexual encounter could be rape "depending on the circumstances". It never depends on whether the woman was drunk, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 12:17 AM
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I would rather be a literal dwarf with actual facial deformities than have a 4" dick. A small dick is genuinely the most horrifying misfortune that could befall a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:28 PM
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PSA: You weren't raped just because you were drunk when you chose to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:40 PM
2

The greatest failing of our education system is how we don't ingrain an understanding that all of human knowledge is a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 04:27 AM
1

Imagine if you said this about women who choose men who end up raping and killing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 03:50 AM
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Genuinely one of the dumbest posts ever made to this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 03:39 AM
1

As I understand it, we only have weight classes in combat sports and that is for safety reasons. In all other sports you are separated simply according to your ability in the sport itself via leagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 01:56 AM
2

If we reached an impasse that would leave one or both of us unhappy then I would prefer the relationship end.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:01 PM
4

I'd prefer the first in the sense that I always get the final say if we reach an impasse, but that doesn't mean I'd never compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:18 PM
1

The smartest man vs the smartest woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:25 PM
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You said smartest man and smartest woman. They may or may not be of similar levels of intelligence. If they are, it's fair, if they aren't, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:56 PM
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If one is significantly more intelligent than the other then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:42 PM
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You cannot accuse someone of being intellectually challenged while having red pill man as your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:39 PM
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Women would be able to excel as much as their ability warrants without sex segregated sports. We already have leagues for ensuring people compete against those of similar ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:20 PM
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Correct, it would be unfair for a weak person to compete against a strong person. That would be true regardless of whether they are of the same sex or different sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:18 PM
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I'm not asking why do we have sex segregated sports, it's obvious that it exists because a market demands it, I'm asking why do we have ideas about some natural born differences constituting "unfair" advantages while others don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:49 PM
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A red piller accusing anyone of having an infantile understanding of the world is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:42 PM
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So? Whether you're born man or woman is random.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:57 PM
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Why is it imperative that women are "represented"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:46 PM
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Why is that seen as an "unfair" advantage, but not to simply have genes that make you faster/stronger/smarter/taller?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:43 PM
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The problem is that the cat is out of the bag. You could socially enforce monogamy but we'd still know that beneath all the pretense they're all whores. This genie won't go back in the bottle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:34 PM
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They are into bitter entitled men if they're good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:31 AM
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Asking women what they think tells you absolutely nothing about what they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:13 AM
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It won't, because women don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:42 AM
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you can’t tell women that we are delusional about what we go for. We can actually. We kinda have a better grasp on that especially if you haven’t had many relationships. You don't actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:55 PM
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Because women's actions don't support that notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 11:54 PM
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No, being ugly is a woman repellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 09:12 PM
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It's their angry, entitled personalities that turn off and repel women. You are completely delusional about what women actually select for and against.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:10 PM
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Yes. He wouldn't be considered attractive if he wasn't tall, broad and strong chinned. I have long argued that being fat isn't a significant factor in male attractiveness because women are about genetic traits. His only bad trait is his balding, but that is less of an issue for otherwise very physically masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:26 PM
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Looks are what stimulates her lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:54 PM
41

Hot take: women care about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:28 PM
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Am I what a 20 something would find attractive? If a 20 year old woman wouldn't find him attractive, then neither would a woman his own age. Therefore he has no reason not to go for younger women, cause if he's gonna get used either way, he may as well get some young pussy out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:08 AM
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I've been sleeping with unsuspecting men for years. You weren't. You were having sex with gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:58 PM
1

The ugly man is in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:26 PM
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I deserve her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:33 PM
4

Voting out of spite and observing the resulting misery of those who have caused you misery brings you relief. That's as good of a reason to vote as any.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:12 AM
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It's not the same the other way around because it usually means he views the ex as lesser-than, whereas when a woman does it it means she views the current partner as lesser-than.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:16 PM
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It's incredible to see how an unmathematical mind interprets the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:06 PM
1

That was 8 years ago, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:11 PM
1

I don't think you can think for you either. A rapist becoming president doesn't prove that the left doesn't think men accused of rape should be professionally and socially ostracized wothout evidence or even that that doesn't happen. It is such extreme womanlogic to think the former somehow disproves the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:07 PM
1

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:43 AM
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You have been living under a rock for the past 7 years if you think men aren't getting fired and ostracized for accusations alone or that women and feminism doesn't advocate for that. Women outperform men in social studies. Like the other commentor noted, men outperform women in all the subjects that actually have real world utility. Whoever decided it was a "war crime" to disallow women from killing babies is not an authority worth appealing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:39 PM
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No, "believe women" means fire a man and both professionally and socially ostracise him without evidence. No, men are being asked to give preferential treatment to women because treating them on the basis of merit means they're not as successful as men, which they don't want to admit. No, women don't have a right to kill babies just because they aren't born yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:31 PM
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Except that isn't what they ask. They ask men to believe rape/SA/harassment accusations made by women are true without evidence. They ask men to give preferential treatment to women in hiring practices. They ask men to allow women to kill their unborn babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:59 PM
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Frankly it's disgusting that women date men they wouldn't fuck casually so I have no sympathy for them getting played by dudes they themselves were trying to play to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:06 PM
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The only reason men have to use those tactics to get laid is because women are really stingy about who they'll have sex with without any expectation of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:42 AM
3

I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:23 AM
15

Anyone else found the last two days of female wailing extremely cathartic?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:01 AM
5

That graph warms my heart. The kids are alright. Nature is healing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:25 AM
2

Except some men do get desired the way women get desired (ie actually desired).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:22 AM
2

True or false: If you can only get sex by offering something other than sex (companionship, commitment, money etc), women aren't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:22 AM
5

I'm not questioning that, I'm questioning whether it's against the rules to define sexual attractiveness as purely a matter of appearance or only against the rules for an incel to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:12 AM
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No, sadly, men don't only want casual sex. I'm just saying they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:06 AM
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If you as a man only offer causal sex then only your appearance is going to matter So is it against the rules to make blackpill claims or is it only against the rules when an incel makes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:02 AM
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If you can only get sex by offering something other than sex (companionship, commitment, money etc), then women aren't attracted to you. Men should only want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:52 AM
2

Actually I think 18-29 men are far more focused on things like difficulty with women and the general misandrist sentiment women broadcast 24/7 than inability to buy a house. Men aren't even thinking about buying a house if they don't believe they'll have a family to raise in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:36 PM
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18-29 men are who have shifted the most from previous voting patterns though. The gender disparity is also greatest among 18-29.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:21 PM
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4B is what's called cutting off your nose to spite your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:10 AM
5

Women fucked around and found out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:08 AM
2

Fortunately*
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:51 AM
3

Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:25 AM
3

Women fucked around, now they're finding out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:03 AM
4

I can count on one hand the times women have pursued me just for sex How many times do you think the average man has had a woman pursue him just for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:55 AM
5

? How does that say it's a humiliation ritual if the woman existed before him? It's saying it's humiliation ritual if she was promiscuous before him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:47 AM
3

No, not "not have existed", just not have been a whore with other men. Of course, you have to hyperbolically misrepresent that as him expecting her to "not have existed", otherwise it wouldn't sound like such an unreasonable expectation, which you desperately want to believe it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:24 AM
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Where have women gotten the idea that you should only feel discontentment over lacking things you're entitled to. You're not entitled to friends either. Does that mean it's wrong for someone to feel discontentment over lacking friends? No. Same applies for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:46 AM
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Women having had larger is just part of the male dating experience. Even if you’re way above average. If you date high N women sure. Not if you date low N women and definitely not if you date a virgin. You’ll know if she’s telling the truth about preferring yours the most. If you don’t know with a certainty, it’s a no. The physiological signs will be there. You'll never know with a certainty. You can be fairly certian whether or not she enjoys your cock, but not that she enjoys it the most, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:32 AM
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he was so passionate about what he was saying that a tear fell from his eye You kinda jumped the shark here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:13 PM
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Then I will ask you straight up: do you think all vaginas are the same size and tightness at a given level of arousal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:22 PM
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I'm not conflating less happy with outright dislike, I'm just saying most men wouldn't be happy to know that their girlfriend/wife is less happy with his penis than she was with another. I'm surprised you don't feel similarly. Would you be happy to know your husband felt more pleasure from another woman who had a tighter pussy? Or that he was more aroused by another woman because her breasts were larger than yours? I'm not expecting my partner to think I'm the biggest man in the world, although …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:20 PM
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So, because your vagina became tighter since menopause, you are using that as the basis for your belief that arousal is the only factor in the variance of how tight vaginas are?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:14 PM
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If a guy liked large breasts then he'd be less happy with smaller breasts, yeah, even if he's still decently happy with hers. I wouldn't want my woman to just be happy with my penis, I'd want her to be happier with mine than with any other. To some extent it's not even just about her happiness. I dislike the idea of her even knowing what it feels like to be stretched out by another penis more than mine can, even if mine gave her more pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:04 PM
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I was replying to someone else. I think either you've blocked them or they've blocked you or it's bugged. https://preview.redd.it/1vcz2086bkvd1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=384a18fb5196a70c42187b23dec188253b2e3c5b
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:59 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:44 PM
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Really? You told him you had an extremely large guy one time and that you found it a "turn on"? I mean that is almost literally the "don't worry baby the big one's hurt" meme. He's either the world's most secure man or a cuck. I am above average in size but there are still many penises bigger than mine and I genuinely can't think of a single thing that would make me feel more insecure than knowing my woman had a bigger penis, even if she claimed to prefer mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:11 PM
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Then tell the next man you are with who isn't the biggest you've ever had and see how he feels about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:59 PM
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Yes, heterosexual men, unless they are a cuck, want their woman to be as satisfied by their penis as they would any other, and would be disgusted to learn that she isn't. Hilarious that you think this is "telling" on myself, as if I'd be unwilling to admit this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:58 PM
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"Probably" is enough of an answer to satisfy me. I'm not asking for any practical reason, I'm asking because I'm stunned by women seemingly generally believing that the only factor in vaginal size is how aroused a man makes her. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:54 PM
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I suggest you read this comment verbatim to the next average sized partner you have and see how he feels about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:49 PM
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She isn't having the fun she'd be provided by a larger penis, and every heterosexual man would be disgusted to learn that of their girlfriend/wife, unless he is a cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:39 PM
1

Even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:31 PM
1

A better question then would be: do all vaginas expand to the same size and hold the same elasticity other than according to level of arousal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:30 PM
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The penis is designed to expand according to arousal too, yet we recognize that the variance in expanded penis sizes is not merely a matter of arousal. Given that vaginas aren’t all the same size unexpanded, and given that they're unlikely to all expand to the same degree, it definitely isn't just a matter warming up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:25 PM
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Q4W: Do vaginas vary from one another in size and elasticity at all other than according to their level of arousal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:11 PM
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Laughably he didn’t even express his own preference in that comment, he merely observed the fact that a looser vagina would feel different. From that you decided to come to a different thread and direct the discussion toward whether or not he personally has a small penis. It's hilarious that you think nobody can see you were personally offended by this post and that that is why you directed the discussion there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:05 PM
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Having it insinuated that you have a small penis for liking tight vaginas IS being shamed for liking tight vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:56 PM
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That's a comment in a different thread, but instead of simply replying to that comment there, you decided to personalize the discussion here too, again because you took the depersonalized discussion here personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:54 PM
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im not a penis expert but allegedly they grow when aroused Does that mean all penises are the exact same size except for their level of arousal? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:51 PM
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Except he never expressed his own preference in the post, he expressed the preference of men in general. You responded as though he expressed his personal preference, because you were personally offended by his comments about women in general, and wanted to insult him personally back, because women are incapable of not taking a depersonalized discussion personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:38 PM
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Like yes that would sometimes be the reason for a penis being small but the point is that we all know arousal is not the only factor in penis size. Women want to believe all their vaginas are the exact same size and elasticity and vary only according to how aroused a man can make them, because the idea that their man would feel more pleasure with another, tighter woman makes them feel insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:31 PM
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No, nor does that prove your point. If your vagina can stretch to fit a penis size that other women's can't, then either your vagina has a larger unstretched sized or has lower elasticity to allow it to stretch further. There's no way around this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:26 PM
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Do you have a small dick? Women discuss general trends without getting offended and personalizing the discussion challenge (impossible).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:23 PM
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We don't know, but definitionally, theirs are smaller than yours, as theirs can't fit a large dick, but yours can.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:17 PM
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PPD Mature discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:16 PM
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"Small penis means he's not aroused." That is genuinely how you sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:12 PM
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Just because someone is a size queen doesn’t mean they won’t date a guy with a normal sized penis Why the fuck would a normal sized man want to date a size queen?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:11 PM
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There are literally multiple women in this thread accusing OP of having a small penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:09 PM
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“Big” versus “small” vaginas aren’t really a thing So every single body part varies in shape and size, but the vagina is the one exception? Lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 04:08 PM
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Are you really pretending that the reverse hasn't always existed? It has, but only one now gets branded as sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 03:58 PM
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No, being ugly guarantees it. Most people aren't ugly, I don't know what that comment is all about. You invited this discussion by personalizing it when you asked about the reason for my name. Stop replying if you're bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:29 PM
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Wrong. Women care about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:12 PM
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Sure, it's just irrelevant to men women wouldn't find attractive even if they didn't make them uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:06 PM
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You are delusional about what women care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:17 PM
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It would improve nothing. If you're ugly, women don't find you attractive no matter how you behave. I would be robbing myself of ogling hot women, something I quite enjoy, for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:22 PM
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It won't be made better by any behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:12 PM
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No; that is because I'm ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 12:02 PM
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You're exposing your own hangups here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 12:00 PM
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Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:13 AM
1

Only if you agree it's poor behaviour, which I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:09 AM
1

This is what qualifies as "blue pill" now?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:28 AM
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She's attractive but there's nothing really special about her sex appeal-wise to grab male attention. Like no crazy ass or tits or anything. If it was Sydney Sweeney in those outfits men would notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:28 AM
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Glad we could agree women should expect men to stare at them and not cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:13 AM
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Happy to, when women stop crying about men staring at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:01 AM
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Actually I do get to decide my own value judgement, as do women, as do men. And in the same sense that men should expect women to label them as creeps for staring at their revealing outfit, women should expect men to stare at them if the go out in a revealing outfit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 12:41 AM
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You thought I was trying to say women wouldn't think its rude to stare? What? Obviously, I was expressing my own value judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 12:07 AM
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If revealing your body in public isn't rude then neither is looking at it when you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:41 PM
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Only honest answer in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:50 PM
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Except that's not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:41 PM
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Not every question will people have motivation to answer dishonestly. I'm just talking about the ones they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:36 PM
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Honestly don't understand the point of asking women questions they're motivated to answer dishonestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:32 PM
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To date, age of consent to my own age (late 20s). To fuck, age of consent to mid 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:07 PM
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Post more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:50 AM
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i just didn’t think you were the OF type Damn the claws are out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:44 AM
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I started typing a response explaining the flaw in your thinking here but honestly I think there's about a 0.1% you'd be able to follow it so I give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:21 AM
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Then that is your contention, not the fact that he's expecting people who have a different sexuality to him to act differently to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:05 AM
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Does OP claim to be demisexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:58 PM
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This is like comparing a starving African child to a billionaire who's favorite 5-star restaurant is closed for the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:33 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if they have even greater variance if you include post-childbirth vaginas, because penises don't really have an equivalently destructive process that most of them go through at some point. Unless you count excessive, ED-inducing porn usage or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:29 PM
1

Yes you can? They're called penis sleeves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:24 PM
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I already equated it to elasticity, but sure perhaps vaginal elasticity and vaginal tightness are really the same trait analogous to girth and erection hardness is more analogous to lubrication. Still that only means they have the same degree of variation. I'm not sure how OP is coming to the conclusion that penises have "far more" factors they vary in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:23 PM
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Facts. Women have gotten away with murder for decades placing all the blame on the penis when it can only possibly be 50% of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:11 PM
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Tightness, elasticity, depth and amount of natural lubrication, sure. If anything that's one more factor that the penis doesn't have an analogous trait to. Girth is analogous to tightness, erection hardness is to elasticity, depth is to length. But there's no penis equivalent of lubrication.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:09 PM
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I am separating the two groups. That wasn't what I asked you to quote, nor what you implied I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:46 PM
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Quote the part where I said women don't find average men attractive and I'll answer your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:36 PM
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making out passionately in the car like 1950s lovebirds We're reaching levels of womanposting that shouldn't be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:23 PM
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That is not required at all for my comment to make sense. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:42 PM
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I did (my husband). No you didn't. You are not an extraordinary statistical anomaly. If women aren't obligated to find average men attractive, what does this have to do with anything? It has to do with the point I was making, which is that women's attraction is not binary but exists on a spectrum, and this is demonstrated by the fact that good looking men have much more leverage in relationships than average looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:16 PM
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I neither said you should find average men attractive nor that you don't find your husband attractive. I don’t understand why you're asking me those questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 02:22 PM
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Nope, attractiveness for me is pass/fail. You're either fuckable or not. This is one of the biggest comforting lies women tell themselves to cope with the fact that most of them don't get commitment from men they find most attractive, and it's demonstrably false given how much more leverage good looking men have in relationships compared to average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:40 PM
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I love how women think only dating attractive men is justified by "I'm also attractive."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 11:55 AM
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In fairness, women are more homogenous than men. Perceived self-contradiction in a group of women is much more indicative of individual self-contradiction than in a group of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:41 PM
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No they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:33 PM
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No, the actions of women in general determines what women find attractive. The words of one woman do not, especially when they do not match the actions of women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:21 PM
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That is also completely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:10 PM
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It's completely irrelevant what you claim you find attractive. The trait that grants a man access to the least transactional sex with the hottest women with the least effort is good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:01 PM
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Which consists mostly of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 04:47 PM
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Yes, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 04:43 PM
1

No, you get it if you're good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 04:43 PM
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Sexual attraction is mostly based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 04:39 PM
5

Trophy husband or beta bucks cuck? These are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:42 AM
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It's hilarious when women think they're an authority on what women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:41 AM
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I couldn't care less how "dark" the porn industry is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:48 PM
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Let's me sleep at night? You genuinely think I would be perturbed by women objecting to porn on moral grounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:47 PM
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Correct, most people, both men and women, are more concerned with what affects them than what affects others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:56 PM
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No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:27 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:00 PM
4

Virtually every husband is a trophy husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:46 PM
3

You should take a peek at r/loveafterporn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:45 PM
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It's like you don't understand why people are against porn if you think imagination is the same. Most women are against it because they view it as infidelity to derive sexual pleasure from other women, not because they care about the conditions and consequences of the porn industry. Given this, it makes sense that most of them would also oppose masturbating to the thought of other women, because it's the same problem in principle. Whether the other women are on a screen or imagined in his brain …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:44 PM
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I'd have sex with her, I see little reason why her ghosting me would stop me from enjoying sex with her, but I would never enter a relationship with her, unless it turned out she ghosted because of something like a family member died, at which point it's no longer a reflection of how she felt about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:40 PM
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For the gazillionth time, women do not think like men. Stop making out like we go. YOU are the ones who crave for their friends to think your partner is hot. Absurd. Women 100% care more about what others think of their partner than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:35 PM
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Man dates younger woman -> he's manipulating her/exercising power over her/can't get women his own age/he'd date underage if it was legal. In reality women shame men for dating younger women because they resent the fact that their value depreciates with age, but that doesn't give them cover to shame men for it, so they make up the things I describe above.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:24 PM
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But few people are going to be so incapable of helping themselves that they rip each other’s clothes off and fuck then and there. Most men would happily have sex with a woman they just saw for the first time 3 seconds ago if they think she's hot. The reasons they don't are practical and logistical, not because the requisite attraction to her isn't there yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:10 AM
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Most women will want marriage and/or kids so that weeds out at least 80% of women. Yes but it's more that most women my age (late 20s) urgently do. At this point I'd rather date a late teen/early 20s girl who isn't giving much thought to marriage/kids, or at least doesn't yet feel a sense of urgency about it that it's dictating her dating choices and making her settle. Whats your definition of "not very sexual"? Not jumping your bones enthuasiastically after 3 short dates? Yes. If a woman didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:51 PM
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I don’t think it does much, other than in the sense that it's one less thing to distract me from dwelling on what I feel are my misfortunes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:31 PM
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Nowadays I have zero friends. I ghosted them all over the last few years because I realized I just don't enjoy socializing with other people anymore. At least not with the people have in the past. I had multiple friendships groups up until about 26 though, with both men and women. I've never struggled to make friends when I'm actually around people my own age regularly. Had, but not anymore. Don't speak to my family at all apart from my mom. Again I just don't enjoy socializing with them. I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:27 PM
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Hate to defend women, but whenever you percieve group self-contradiction, it is most likely just different members of the group making the two claims. If not entirely then mostly. In this case, the women who claim men don't care about sexual history are not the women advocating women lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 08:31 PM
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In what part of the world do you live where the average man looks as good as him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:34 PM
0

What isn't clear?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:31 PM
2

I genuinely think it should be illegal for women to express the thoughts expressed in that article. I think it should be illegal for them to even think those thoughts but I don't know how we'd ever police that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:27 PM
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Something else that's irritating is how women turn any discussion about sexual woes into a discussion about "entitlement" and how men mustn't feel it toward sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:57 PM
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Well aside from the fact that it's insulting that I am held to a standard other men are not, it's also just frustrating to not be able to experience a kind of connection I desire. I want to know what it feels like to be valued as nothing more than a hot cock by someone I value as nothing more than hot vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:26 PM
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you absolutely must not say anything about her physical appearance. Yet another rule only average/ugly men have to abide. Women have no problem with attractive men complimenting them on their appearance. Women think it's "fair" for him to because they similarly find his appearance attractive. But women expect average men to value them for more than appearance because she thinks that's implicitly how the average man is expecting her to value him by having the gall to approach her while not being …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:11 PM
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The MeToo movement was a handful of women with legitimate assault/harassment stories, and the rest of women convincing themselves they're victims because an ugly guy showed interest in them and that this 'harassment' is the real reason they harbor resentment of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:03 PM
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You didn't read my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:07 AM
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You didn't read my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:06 AM
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your problem is that I called out the entitlement? Did you read my comment at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:03 AM
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Male virginity is a serious subject matter too. Clearly YOU have no empathy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:54 AM
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The notion that men are sad about not having sex only because they believe they're "entitled" to it and wouldn't be if they believed otherwise is the most nuclear bluepill take on human nature I've ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:49 AM
-1

Some male virgins are wholly responsible for their state. 99% aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:46 AM
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Most women who've been assaulted just go on with their life, they don't make an identity of it and you won't hear about it unless you really know them and it comes up. Well rape is kinda a one-time thing. Two or three at most if you're super unlucky. Virginity is an every-day-of-your-life thing until you lose it. So it kinda makes sense why the former doesn't dwell on it but the latter does. I would say virginity is more akin to an impoverished prostitute who has to have sex with men she doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:41 AM
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Regulation doesn't have to be something that's enforced by the government or codified in policy anywhere. Socially enforced monogamy is a form of regulation of the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:31 PM
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False, because girls still pick the looksmogger, and this is an even greater insult if you moneymog/competencymog the looksmogger because it's such a blatant demonstration of how worthless your moneymaxxing/competencymaxxing was.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:58 PM
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They don't like it from girls they only want to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 10:32 PM
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Men desire variety. Porn is a kind of cheat code that feeds that desire enough for him to not seek it IRL. Make him swear off porn at your own peril.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:07 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:00 PM
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Not perfect 10s, just the top 20-30% or so. The ones who can have sex with women without giving them anything else in return or dumpster diving.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:57 PM
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Those are the only men women find sexually attractive, so that is equivalent to wanting to be treated the way women treat men they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:52 PM
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They aren't, they're complaining that they were bad in bed, and usually not to me personally but on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:51 PM
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No, about other men and men they dealt with in their youth in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:31 PM
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Are you saying that men are committing suicide because they aren't getting laid? No, I'm not talking about men who commit suicide, I'm talking about the men you hear banging on about "male loneliness". I suspect men who commit suicide have more severe mental problems. Or is it more likely that it's because they aren't getting the intimacy that's emotionally required? Intimacy is definitely something that men require as much as women, but they don't foster none sexual intimacy. Would you agree wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:18 PM
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They don't provide it all, but men don't particularly struggle with finding what they don't elsewhere, that's why the unhappiest men are the ones who don't have the things only sexual/romantic relationships can provide, and why it's so bizarre that you think this fact evidences your claim and not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:01 PM
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I'm not a forensic scientist so I wouldn't know the details, but whatever evidence would be necessary to convict a man of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:59 PM
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It does if the woman you're putting in effort with is the one you're implicitly lying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:57 PM
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Yeah that's the pendulum swinging to far the other way. The practice should be investigate, and believe after evidence has been found.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:54 PM
2

The lie is in temporarily staying with a woman you have no intention of staying with long-term whilst she is under the impression that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:43 PM
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I do have the right to view the women naked online who agree to all men seeing them naked online, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:41 PM
0

Because wanting to be treated like Chad is just wanting to be treated the way women treat men they're attracted to, which is very reasonable. Obviously, this is not equivalent to wanting to be treated like one of the biggest artists alive, which is very unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:40 PM
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And how would you know that? Because women themselves complain about having been with men who don't put in any effort in bed. Again how would you know this? Because women themselves also proclaim that they wouldn't stay with men who don't put in ant effort in bed. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together and conclude that some men get away with not putting in any effort in bed whilst other men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:38 PM
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And then she leaves you for being bad in bed and we repeat the cycle. Except women often don't leave even men who are bad in bed because they find them attractive. So a man can either risk staying with a woman who makes demands of him that she wouldn't of other men or not stay with her and wait for a woman who treats him the same way women treat attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:01 PM
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No, it means relationships that aren't romantic or sexual don't alone provide all the things men actually need to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:41 PM
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Advocating that men not be with women who aren't attracted to them is caring about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:40 PM
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It does for any man who doesn’t have the stomach to perform a constant lie to the current woman he's with about his intentions with her, which is most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:39 PM
2

as soon as you hear that widows do better than widowers, and the happiest groups are married men and single women That is literally evidence for what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:01 PM
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Yes they know their own value and settle for less than what they find most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:59 PM
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an unattractive man not putting in effort would not become attractive, so there is no benifit. Yes there is. The benefit is not putting in effort for a woman who isn't attracted to you and leaving yourself open to meet a woman who is attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:41 PM
2

Again, either you're not average, or you're not being treated the way insta hotties are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:25 PM
2

If you've recieved the kind of treatment insta thotties do then you are likely as attractive as them. Alternatively you are just misguided about how men treat them and how comparable your experience is to theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:21 PM
2

Feel free to stick your head in the sand and believe the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:18 PM
1

I do not need to read about delusional ideas about those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:17 PM
2

Because it's not a small minority of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:15 PM
2

I fully agree that men should break up with women who demand effort of them while women aren't demanding effort of highly attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:08 PM
2

To get a girl who isn't attracted to me*, which I have no interest in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:07 PM
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Some do. Many don't. None need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:06 PM
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Yes it is. If it weren't, we wouldn't even be able to identify 'highly attractive' people to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:05 PM
2

It's not perfectly fine if what it reveals about how your partner feels about you is not what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:04 PM
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That's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:02 PM
3

Do men treat you the way men treat insta hotties?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:01 PM
2

Men aren't lonely, men are lacking sexual and romantic fulfillment, you just hear about "male loneliness" because that's more socially acceptable than complaining about lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:01 PM
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They're not horny for them the way they are for highly attractive people, especially so women for average men. If they were, they would have the same leverage as highly attractive people, but they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:59 PM
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It does matter much, because it reveals a lot about how your partner feels about you, which matters much to people. It is different to other areas of life because people are not looking in other areas of life for the things they're looking for in a romantic/sexual partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:55 PM
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No, I just hear women's own complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:49 PM
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this is how average people meet and date No it isn't. Average people meet and date because they're generally aware of their own value and settle for what they can get. Most people are not dating the people they find most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:48 PM
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If a man can be attracted to me even though I'm not a insta hottie, why do you assume women don't do the same? There's very good explanations for why men find the average woman more attractive than women find the average man. I suspect they don't find you as attractive as insta hotties. If they did, you'd be able to demand of men just as much as insta hotties do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:46 PM
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You need to put in effort in anything you want to succeed in. Except some men don't because women don't demand it of them, and for as long as they don't, it's an insult for them to demand it of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:43 PM
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It's extremely insulting for women to require that of you when they don't of other men. If she's not treating you the way women treat good looking men, she's not attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:33 PM
2

If Chad doesn't have to put in effort, neither should I. I wish all men adopted this simple rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:29 PM
4

I don't think you could even imagine how effortless male friendships are in comparison to relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:22 PM
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So you claim, but evidently, based on women's own complaints, there are plenty of men who women are willing to sleep with despite being selfish in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:19 PM
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This demonstrates why men shouldn't put in effort in bed. If you have to put in effort, she's not attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:10 PM
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So basically, it negatively affected your fee-fees and not in any tangible real way? Incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:15 AM
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No, I'm saying that a lot of what the women described themselves did not constitute sexual assault or harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:05 AM
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Every accusation should have an investigation, and I can't imagine anyone having a real logical argument against that. That wasn't the position of the metoo movement. The position of the metoo movement was "believe women".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:42 AM
2

Have you been on a college campus in the last decade?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:36 AM
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It emboldened women to view any discomfort or negative feeling they have about an interaction with a man as an infraction committed by him against her and cultivated solidarity amongst women around such incidents. This means that a man now risks his social standing whenever he expresses interest in a woman, because she may take the opportunity to paint him as a sex pest, knowing she'll have the full support of other women and many men on total blind faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:28 AM
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because it was a completely grassroots movement run by normal women, and normal women do not hold either of these views. Except in practice they do. Of course they don't express that explicitly because it would be too obviously deranged, but whenever a situation occurs where a man expresses interest in a woman who doesn't reciprocate and she feels like making herself the center of attention for a bit, normal women will rally around her 100% of the time and rationalize his actions as harassment. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:13 AM
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Because a lot of the men these women were talking about were not guilty of sexual assault or any crime or anything more than expressing romantic or sexual interest in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:56 AM
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I haven't been negatively affected by women coming out about their sexual assault, I've been negatively affected by the MeToo movement, which was a lot more than just women coming out about their sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:49 AM
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I don't feel guilty for crimes I don't commit either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:44 AM
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I have never sexually assaulted women and I feel negatively affected by the movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:40 AM
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The problem with MeToo and the problem with most women's movements is that you give them an inch and they take a mile. Yes, Harvey Weinstein gatekeeping careers in Hollywood from women unless they slept with him is bad, but women took that to mean every time a guy expresses unwanted interest in them is an instance of sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:37 AM
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Not feeling respected is a big part of sexual attraction. No it isn't, and the woman I'm referring to is a self described asexual who is still a virgin at near 30. So I guess RAINN statistics and research, #MeToo, the man vs bear argument going viral, cheating in some form being fairly common, etc etc etc are not part of the female experience? I guess those researchers and scientists were all lying. You're misinterpreting the research, metoo and the bear argument is just online female lunacy, ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:56 PM
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That stat about 36 being the average lifespan of a pornstar is so laughably absurd it doesn't even warrant googling to check it's validity because it's so blatantly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:52 PM
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And you wonder why you are a frustrated man? No wonder a woman does not want to go anywhere near you. You don't even respect us. I'm tired of explaining this on this account but have had many girls "want to go near me" throughout my life, just none I found hot. Thus, the reason is not my supposed lack of respect for women. Regarding your second point, you have a very distorted, catastrophized notion of what life is like for most women. Most women don’t experience the things you describe, but abs…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:41 PM
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No, I think the desire for sex is an instinctual urge that exists on it's own and not purely as a means to satisfying other desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:23 PM
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No, because the crumb of pussy would have required an enormous amount of effort to acquire whereas porn is readily available with no effort whatsoever. Nevrmind the fact that "the real thing" can be a worse experience than watching porn if it's with an unenthusiastic/unattractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:22 PM
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Well both, but I think there's an error there in understanding the desire for sex as purely a means to satisfy other desires like pleasure and reproduction. I think the desire for sex is an instinctual urge that exists in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:18 PM
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Your argument is coming from a place of entitlement. Men are not owed sex or access to women's bodies. So? Honestly I don't care whether it's "entitled" or not. That doesn't make what I said untrue. Not to mention you think power is based on how many people want to fuck you? Um, yes? That is absolutely a form of power. It's literally where most female power comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:12 PM
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Do you think that men could move away from this sort of desperation feeling of constant needing to see the female body? No. I think the male fixation on sex is natural and immutable. And you have to understand watching porn and looking at many different naked women isn’t quite like having a woman who loves and desires you. The loneliness and frustration lingers during and after porn. Sure, I'm not saying porn is perfect, just that it's better than the alternative of a man accepting being treated…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:09 PM
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Sorry I just don't believe that is the norm. If I went down the list of top 100 pornstars on pornhub, they're probably all women who lead public lives and actively choose to be a part of that industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:03 PM
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No one is entitled to seeing anyone naked - it isn't "gatekeeping" to refuse demands to see a naked female body, it's an issue of consent and boundaries. So no, it isn't an "obscene level of power" to maintain physical security and privacy despite others' wishing you had no privacy to begin with. Nowhere did I say that men are entitled to see women naked who don't agree to having their bodies seen naked on the internet. Just the ones who do. The way you're talking about men is really kinda embar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:56 PM
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I didn't say they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:48 PM
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It doesn't need to be a good representation of what women want, it just needs to give men an alternative to ease the power women have over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:47 PM
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I'll be honest I didn't read all of that but I'm going to give my opinion anyway. Porn gives men an alternative avenue to some form of access to female bodies that isn't entirely monopolized by women. Without porn, women would get to gatekeep even seeing the female body, which is an obscene level of power for them to wield over men. If porn has been destructive to men and women forming relationships, it is only because men are not so desperate for even a glimpse of the female body that they'll a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:37 PM
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Yeah I think a lot of relationships are prostitution in all but name.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:21 PM
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If sex with her is conditioned on you giving her anything other than sex, then it is prostitution. That doesn't mean that giving her anything other than sex makes it prostitution, but if she wouldn't have sex with you if you didn't, then it is prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:58 PM
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Society isn't failing to raise good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 01:29 AM
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You sure know how to pick em
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:38 PM
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NotAllWomen
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:31 PM
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What this sub describes as "the perfect man" has always been a turn off to me and plenty of women I have known throughout my life. That's incorrect actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:46 AM
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There’s no reason to think about the standards for someone you’ll never be. There is in a subreddit dedicated to discussion of that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:49 PM
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Social skills aren't irrelevant, but they're not the most important thing. Sexual success is not just how many women you sleep with, but also how hot those women are, how little effort you have to exercise to sleep with them, and the degree to which their interest in you is sexual rather than romantic, platonic, or financial. To that end, good looks are the most commensurate trait. An average looking but socially adept man will not experience sexual access equivalent to that of a good looking bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:45 PM
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Your inability and the general inability of women to deduce for yourselves why that statistic does not mean a man is more likely to attack a woman than a bear explains why so many of you choose men who end up beating the crap put of you. Absolutely abysmal survival instinct and threat analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:57 PM
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I can't believe you genuinely think that statistic means a man is more likely to attack a woman than a bear. This is what happens when we let women think for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:09 PM
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Source??? You should not need a "source" to deduce that a bear is more likely than a man to attack a woman. According to the all women who literally answered “man” to the man vs bear question, your opinion is useless. They did the risk assessment, and chose their answer. Even I do not have an opinion of women low enough to believe they'd pick a bear over man to be alone in the woods with if they had to actually live with that choice. This question is purely hypothetical though, so they don't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:00 PM
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The risk of being attacked by a man is much lower than being attacked by a bear. The vast majority of women would not rather be killed than raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:19 PM
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Again, bears usually only attack under defensive conditions. Again, I'm sure women who choose the bear will find great consolation in that when it disembowels them. It’s also much, much more common for someone to be assaulted by a man than to be assaulted by a bear. Female dyscalculia is astonishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:30 AM
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That isn't going to happen either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:14 AM
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Except I'm not going to stop driving. So if women want me to stop gawking at them from my car, they can choose to cover their bodies in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:16 AM
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The central point is the fear and terror of experiencing potential rape. Not potential death. That makes it even more nonsensical, given that the latter is worse than the former. Most bear attacks are defensive reactions anyway, but the same is obviously not true of rape. I'm sure women who chose the bear will find great consolation in that when it disembowels them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:39 AM
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Have women considered arguing that "central point" by not making an utterly asinine and objectively false claim like they're safer alone with a bear than with a man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:10 AM
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If your league is fat or ugly women, that IS the trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:17 PM
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Or... hear me out... women wear fewer clothes when it's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:11 PM
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Why would I only be a bad driver in the summer?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:34 PM
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That you are in greater danger alone in the woods with a bear than with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:40 PM
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Why would I have lower concentration levels in the summer?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:31 PM
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It's not that. It's because women use any excuse they can, thankfully, to be as unclothed in public as the law permits. I have had so many near-misses driving in the summer because of the outrageous outfits women like to don when the sun is out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:05 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:01 PM
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Akaik the post is about attention, not assault. The latter makes a man a predator, not the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:58 PM
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I'm neither proud nor ashamed. I would prefer no man ever views my mom, sister or daughter with lust, but I know that isn't going to happen, and I also know that not viewing other men's moms/sisters/daughters with lust won't stop them from doing so to mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:56 PM
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You could get every single woman on Earth to one by one insist to me personally that what they wear has no effect on how much attention they recieve from men, and I still would not believe you. I know this because I know that how much I pay attention to women and how much every single heterosexual male friend I've ever had pays attention to women is 100% directly proportional to how much of her body we can see with our eyes. It's not complicated. If I can see ass, if I can see tits, if I can see…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:46 PM
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Social aptitude is incredibly important in terms of male attractiveness. It's as important as physical appearance. If you took a man 90th percentile in looks but average in social aptitude, and a man 90th percentile in social aptitude but average in looks, the former is going to get sexual interest from much hotter women and with less effort. Sexual success is not just how many women you can sleep with, it's also how hot the women you can get are, how little effort you have to exercise to get th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:42 PM
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Sex is a big deal to men actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:33 PM
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I don't speak from experience, but "love" is not the only thing I desire. I desire lust and excitement. I would leave a woman with whom I had the former for a woman with whom I had the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:30 PM
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I don't agree that all human beings are entitled to the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:00 PM
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Why would that mean women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:32 PM
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Everyone, male or female, is entitled to basic human decency. This includes not letting them die or remain in danger when you can prevent it without incurring that danger yourself. Nobody, male or female, is entitled to sex or a relationship. If men aren't entitled to the latter, why should women be entitled to the former?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:07 PM
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I can't even imagine caring about any of those things and I refuse to believe any man who claims that he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:47 PM
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If you actually bother to make sure she enjoys sex So another form of effort. You're just making his argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:33 PM
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If you want kinky sex that a girlfriend is not willing to have just leave. For most men, doing this doesn't mean they're gonna find kinky sex from some other woman, it means they're gonna have no sex at all. This is always the problem with "just leave" relationship advice. That will just mean an objectively worse life for many men, even if staying is far from perfect.
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