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Depends on what is meant. IMO it's not inherently bad to talk about the bad behaviors that each sex is prone to. The main thing is that those discussions shpuld be open to both sides of the coin, and the ways that men and women often feed into each other's tendencies... for better or worse.
/r/MensRights21/07/26 08:50 PM
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I think it's more that to the people at the top, men and women alike... it's their peers at the top who would need to keep them in check. And that's just not going to happen often, man or woman.
/r/MensRights09/07/26 11:14 PM
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Most men (including myself) aren't willing to endure the demands of being a CEO, politician, etc... and even less women are willing to do so. They're essentially labeling society a patriarchy because it reflects biological differences.
/r/MensRights09/07/26 06:50 PM
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Not if you pay attention to the context in which it's typically used. Or the fact that it's only used in a neutral or derogatory manner, never positive.
/r/MensRights29/06/26 10:24 PM
9

This is clearly not them indicating they played a role in the period pain, it's a gesture of benign sympathy. And I say this as someone who hates BS apologies.
/r/MensRights27/05/26 05:53 PM
23

It's amazing how the people parroting these lines apparently cannot comprehend that: 1) Due to MUCH stronger social stigmas, men are far less likely to report DV in any fashion that would get it entered into government databases of any sort. 2) There are plenty of other ways to harm people, aside from brute force. There is no easy way to account for subtle manipulation, for example. So in many cases, it's simply that the bad things men do may be easier to track and quantify; that does not mean m…
/r/MensRights26/05/26 07:48 PM
3

Both answers may have truth to them.
/r/MensRights26/05/26 09:58 AM
10

"Pretty accurate" is fine to start with at a base level. However, acting as if generalizations apply to everyone in that group is just as stupid as refusing to make any generalizations.
/r/MensRights21/05/26 08:09 PM
160

Don't hate people for things they have no control over (like biological sex). Hate them for what they can control (bad things they do).
/r/MensRights21/05/26 03:47 PM
3

So don't move on then. Don't lie, and don't apologize for things you didn't do wrong. If someone insists that you do those things to appease them, they are evil. Do your best to get far away from them.
/r/MensRights29/04/26 07:09 PM
11

You don't "have to apologize". Reject framing like this, that makes it sound like you're forced to do things you aren't being forced to do. Use your free will.
/r/MensRights28/04/26 07:51 PM
4

The authors of this study seem to be picking the most uncharitable interpretation of each of their given scenarios and then counting it all as "non-consensual sex". It's almost as if they designed the study to seek a specific (blatantly dishonest) outcome. "Researchers" like this need to be universally blacklisted, it's obvious they possess no integrity and cannot be trusted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 04:42 PM
5

When the axioms of a person's ideology demand that women are always victims, there's no convincing them otherwise. The self-centerdness of some people knows no bounds.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 10:44 AM
14

Wait...i thought being feminine/fragile wasn't bad...but they're clearly using it as an insult lmao
/r/MensRights30/03/26 06:07 PM
1

First take is overly dramatic, response is a little too naive
/r/MensRights07/03/26 08:25 PM
4

Ahhh the visibility fallacy is alive and well.
/r/MensRights15/02/26 01:05 PM
10

It's one of the areas where IMO, men are treated as defective women.
/r/MensRights28/01/26 06:25 PM
45

Right...like if they're automatically swiping left based on you indicating you're apolitical...awesome, you don't ever interact with the lunatic.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 09:13 PM
2

Agreed. Classic case of not confusing incompetence or ignorance with malicious intent.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 06:06 PM
3

Yeah plenty of people view it that way, so...fair enough.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 05:53 PM
72

I think that was OP's point... that societal bias is evident based on the LLMs output.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 05:40 PM
3

I read your OP that way, no worries. It definitely can be valid to point out bias in LLMs like this, since (like you're indicating) it can point to indications of societal bias being revealed by the LLMs unfair responses.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 05:40 PM
40

Tbf, if it's getting this from how it is trained... then this bias is in actuality integrated into the software, right?
/r/MensRights26/01/26 05:30 PM
1

Couldn't agree more, I have a lot of that in common too!
/r/MensRights26/01/26 03:17 AM
2

Absolutely, fairness is always an important consideration, and tight financial times are no exception. That was a big aspect of what bugged me; I was being extremely frugal, and that effort wasn't reciprocated by her.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 01:10 AM
5

Yeah it definitely can be a fuzzy line. Unfortunately that fuzziness also gives manipulative women (like my ex-wife) wiggle room to falsely claim financial abuse, when in reality I just wanted us to have money for rent and necessities. In our scenario, I was doing my part by...shocker...not spending money on things we didn't need. Because money was tight, and that's what you (should) do. Meanwhile, she wouldn't give up on her frivolous purchases. Nothing insane, but little things add up. Starbuc…
/r/MensRights25/01/26 12:54 PM
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Agreed. I'll go a step further; I'm not a fan of anybody getting special government treatment based on them falling into a "marginalized" demographic. I believe it introduces too many perverse incentives, and will inevitably be a sinkhole of money, time and effort in the long run.
/r/MensRights21/01/26 09:33 PM
5

In my extensive experience, men fall for romance scams quite a bit more frequently than women do. My hunch, like others here seem to share, is that men and women are more susceptible to different types of lies/ lscams.
/r/MensRights21/01/26 11:50 AM
7

Is their threshold for harm that you don't get to complain about being falsely accused if you can find ANY employment afterwards? If that's the standard, it's disingenuous as shit. On the other hand, if they're pretending there are literally no job prospects ever ruined due to false accusations, that's pure insanity.
/r/MensRights14/01/26 06:02 PM
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Sometimes I wonder how much of this is caused by "women are more empathetic" nonsense. The way I see it, once someone is convinced they're more empathetic, if they DON'T feel empathy for someone's plight (let's say short men)... they probably are going to figure "Well if I don't feel empathy for those men, there must be a reason". Then they're forced to scramble for any other explanation, rather than acknowledging their lack of empathy.
/r/MensRights05/01/26 06:22 PM
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Because it reduces people to a series of categories, instead of viewing them, and their story, as a whole. Reducing people to the boxes they do or don't check off encourages combative and divisive behavior, rather than bringing us together.
/r/MensRights30/12/25 09:18 PM
32

Make broad, sweeping generalizations like this wheel does more harm than good.
/r/MensRights30/12/25 09:06 PM
8

I've seen a few up close...one of the scarier times was when we were staying at a friend's house in a remote part of Vermont, and a couple bears were meandering around it right outside the glass doors...
/r/MensRights22/12/25 11:13 PM
39

A stellar example of why "feeling" safe isn't a reliable metric. Not to mention...I'd wager that virtually all of the women saying that have never seen a bear in the wild IRL.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 06:24 PM
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That's exactly what seems to have happened, right. And I kinda get it, as far as... the vocal minority often (via bullying and shaming tactics) steers the direction of the majority. Like sheep and sheepdogs.
/r/MensRights21/11/25 08:23 PM
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To clarify, I meant more gatekeeping of the toxic/extremist elements of the movement. Aka, ones like the #killallmen types.
/r/MensRights21/11/25 08:15 PM
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Umm what? Women are right around the same IQ as men on average, just with less outliers on either end of the spectrum.
/r/MensRights21/11/25 04:11 PM
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Like any movement that gains significant traction with society, there will be tons of people who latch on to the movement's momentum, and contort it to be used for other motives. If the majority of the movement doesn't sufficiently gatekeep and police their own...well, this is what you get.
/r/MensRights21/11/25 04:10 PM
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Cool, so question that. Why do they think institutional bias only matters at those levels? Building off my prior example, a male teacher being discriminated against at the school level doesn't get much consolation when he's told "You're only being discriminated against at the employer level; at the national level, you're better off statistically!". He doesn't give a damn if the discrimination he's suffering from doesn't perfectly match national trends, nor should he.
/r/MensRights20/11/25 07:02 PM
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Define terms. When they say "systemic", what do they mean exactly? For example do they mean systemic at the global level, the country level, the state level, the city level, the neighborhood level, the coworker/friends/family level, social media level, etc? For example, let's say you have a school with 90% of their teachers being women. A group of female teachers bullies/harasses a male teacher on the basis of his sex. Does that qualify as institutional discrimination, with the institution being…
/r/MensRights20/11/25 04:55 PM
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Clear AI post based on phrasing and structure.
/r/MensRights20/11/25 01:32 PM
3

Right... and the proposed "solution" in OP's first 2 links was... for men who are not party to an incident to sue men who assault women? I don't understand how that would work even hypothetically. How am I supposed to be stopping men I've never met or interacted with from doing... anything?
/r/MensRights12/11/25 03:57 PM
2

Smiling and making small talk? How tf are those gendered? And handling office birthday celebrations? The things that (with few exceptions) only women care about? Jesus Chrysler
/r/MensRights09/11/25 04:14 PM
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Idk if we should consider 4 yrs ago "recent", but yeah this was horrific.
/r/MensRights24/10/25 04:25 PM
6

And men having insanely higher rates of injuries/ deaths on the job doesn't damage their career opportunities? I'm sure that any moment now feminists en masse will start pushing for gender parity in workplace injuries and deaths... any moment now...
/r/MensRights21/10/25 12:08 PM
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Yuppp... and you see the confusion in posts where people ask (on large/default subreddits) about why men, on average, are shifting further right politically. The highly upvoted responses are often funny yet sad... "As a white male, I've never felt that democrats attack me". Ok, so men are shifting to the right... for no reason? Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. "There's no such thing as a left-wing in America". more denial/distraction tactics "Anything men suffer from pales in comparison to wh…
/r/MensRights21/10/25 12:06 PM
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Exactly, hurling insults at strangers on the internet is a sign of poor mental health. I treat them about as seriously as a homeless person cussing me out as I walk past.
/r/MensRights17/10/25 04:56 PM
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It entirely depends on the circumstances.
/r/MensRights04/10/25 12:40 PM
3

Masculinity is a word, and like all words, exists to convey information. It's one thing to debate the best use of a word, but another altogether to assert that a word has no meaning.
/r/MensRights18/09/25 03:53 PM
1

So what is masculinity, in your view?
/r/MensRights18/09/25 11:05 AM
2

So masculinity isn't bad, only toxic masculinity is...but also, all masculinity is bad. People can't keep their damn messaging straight apparently.
/r/MensRights18/09/25 11:03 AM
21

Oh I didn't realize cops could only grab a selfie with someone on a designated "community day" lmfao. What an idiotic person.
/r/MensRights02/09/25 10:23 PM
62

"Oh neat a celebrity, let's get a pic!" How dare they be such sexist scum, god.
/r/MensRights02/09/25 06:50 PM
11

I've been looking at it as...due to our biological advantages in strength/working in dangerous situations as s team/etc, it's simply not plausible for women to take many of men's roles en masse. Even without conscription, it's still around 90% of men making up the military. We're simply more suited to doing dangerous things to upkeep our society and protect it. Arguably the biggest issue is that that is no longer appreciated as it should be.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 10:44 AM
2

It's a self-reinforcing feedback loop, goes both ways.
/r/MensRights06/08/25 10:06 AM
3

Societal functioning is no justification. It really, really is a justification.
/r/MensRights05/08/25 08:44 PM
2

Society functions best when people do more of what they are better at. It doesn't matter whether or not anyone likes that fact.
/r/MensRights05/08/25 08:10 PM
60

The thing is... I'm 100% fine with those roles being the norm, and being my wife's default protector when viable. But as others have alluded to, there needs to be a degree of appreciation/respect afforded to men who take that role. You can't have a stick with no carrot.
/r/MensRights05/08/25 02:31 PM
23

Exactly. I don't think I've ever heard someone make a prison rape joke about a woman. Funny how that works.
/r/MensRights24/07/25 09:51 PM
48

You should not be responding with hate. It may feel good and deserved, but that isn't a productive way to respond.
/r/MensRights21/07/25 02:38 PM
3

Totally get that too; assuming you're driving home the point that it's bad for men (in short and long term), and bad for women too (in long term).
/r/MensRights20/07/25 03:40 PM
5

That sounds a lot like the "women are the primary victims of war". It's ok to focus on the harm that something does to men, it doesn't always have to be twisted to be about women.
/r/MensRights20/07/25 03:33 PM
2

What is that supposed to mean, exactly?
/r/MensRights20/07/25 03:31 PM
1

Exactly, they were listening to the 'experts' who presumably told OP's parents that being circumcised was the best decision for your health. It would be like someone who had an adverse reaction to a vaccine being angry at their parents for listening to the doctor and having you get that vaccine. Don't be upset at your parents...if anything, be upset at the person working in the industry who told them that was the best course of action.
/r/MensRights16/07/25 07:04 PM
16

I've generally resolved this kind of issue by discussing when/how she thinks the project in question should be prioritized. Sometimes my wife doesn't realize how many other projects are in the queue, and/or how many of those other projects are higher priority; other times she suggests doing the project in an unrealistic window of time, and i need to explain that the thing she thought would take an hour or two will probably be a full-day project. The point being, nail down specifics so you can fi…
/r/MensRights14/07/25 05:13 PM
2

Right, that was a huge factor for me as well! I sure as hell picked a crappy person to marry the first time around...was much more deliberate in choice of partner before remarrying again, over a decade later.
/r/MensRights09/07/25 05:51 PM
11

My divorce was mild compared to your situation, though I feared I would end up in your shoes. Honestly, I don't know what I would do if it had panned out that way. Might have ended up moving to another state and finding ways to make money under the table. You may need to accept something like that, or filing bankruptcy during/after the divorce proceedings. Obviously it will set you back tremendously, and you'll need to accept a much lower quality of life (at least for a while). But there are way…
/r/MensRights09/07/25 04:51 PM
17

So no need to run defense then.
/r/MensRights08/06/25 02:31 PM
29

Do you genuinely believe that these sorts of sarcastic comments have a net positive effect?
/r/MensRights08/06/25 12:51 PM
17

Those comments are so densely ironic, acting as if it it's ok to place collective blame when men are the target.
/r/MensRights07/06/25 08:29 PM
3

Who are the perpetrators of these violent crimes? How do you think that is relevant to the OP? OP's post is specifically discussing victimhood rates, in response to this Australian person saying that men don't need to worry about being assaulted as much as women...a claim which is contradicted by the relevant statistics. How is it of any use or consolation to a victim of violent crime that they have the same genitals as their attacker?
/r/MensRights02/06/25 04:59 PM
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100%...though I've certainly contributed to society more than I've taken!
/r/MensRights31/05/25 02:40 PM
79

We? I don't oppress women, and i don't accept responsibility for things I didn't do.
/r/MensRights31/05/25 02:04 PM
2

Also valid.
/r/MensRights26/05/25 06:51 PM
9

I mean... she's giving a stranger her home address. No shit there are associated risks. Keep a small gun concealed readily available on your person, and there you go, all set.
/r/MensRights26/05/25 04:57 PM
13

You're spot on OP.
/r/MensRights22/05/25 08:10 PM
8

Maybe, I'm not so generous with my interpretation of the first quoted section :/
/r/MensRights22/05/25 03:41 PM
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From the article: https://nypost.com/2025/05/21/world-news/24-year-old-woman-set-friend-on-fire-for-making-misogynistic-remark-report/ “I find it very hard to believe the injuries that were caused was from my doing,” Walpole said, adding, “I would do anything to go back in time.” WTH?
/r/MensRights22/05/25 02:54 PM
3

I think it largely boils down to men (on average) not being social creatures to the same degree that women are. This tendency manifests in all sorts of ways, both positive and negative (with this being one of the negative ways).
/r/MensRights22/05/25 02:48 PM
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Some people are just assholes. Idk what large-scale rates look like...but anecdotally, I've only seen mockery of like that coming from women (would guesstimate around 1/4 - 1/3 of women from my experiences).
/r/MensRights20/05/25 05:01 PM
1

It's not only about men risking their lives for the sake of others. Men also work important/dangerous/strenuous jobs at far higher rates than women do, as another example of this principle in action. As I said in the first place, Men are simply more willing than women to engage in risky/outlier behaviors, both for good and bad reasons.
/r/MensRights22/04/25 07:35 PM
1

As I said, men tend to be the outliers, partaking in the more extreme versions of behaviors (like risking life and limb to save other people).
/r/MensRights22/04/25 07:14 PM
1

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/out-of-the-ooze/202207/who-is-willing-to-risk-their-life-to-save-others-and-why Sure, here you go.
/r/MensRights22/04/25 06:45 PM
1

There's a core of truth to what you're driving at. Men's influence is typically more overt, physical, and easy to identify. Including things like physical violence, intimidation, military might, etc. Women's influence is generally accomplished through more subtle (but plenty significant) means; social shaming, gossip, child-rearing, etc. I hope it goes without saying that men's and women's innate tendencies and methods of accomplishing things are not inherently good or bad, they're just differen…
/r/MensRights20/04/25 02:52 PM
5

Men are the outliers in society more frequently, both for good and evil. More men are physically violent, but more men will also risk or sacrifice their lives for the sake of others. Two sides of the same coin...overall, men take the risks that women don't...both for good and bad.
/r/MensRights20/04/25 10:44 AM
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Exactly. She's taking a specific type of crime most often committed by men (random street violence in bad neighborhoods), and insinuating that that somehow means men are the root cause of all crime.
/r/MensRights16/04/25 06:15 PM
50

"Jews are the problem". Happy?
/r/MensRights16/04/25 06:11 PM
1

There's no "confusion", it's intentional propaganda.
/r/MensRights15/04/25 11:10 AM
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Exactly...this notion that someone is exclusively either a victim or oppressor is pretty wild, and disturbingly common as far as I can tell.
/r/MensRights14/04/25 02:06 PM
10

More or less...it assumes the premise.
/r/MensRights05/04/25 05:00 PM
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Not often, anyways.
/r/MensRights16/03/25 02:30 PM
4

As long as she upholds her end of traditional roles...
/r/MensRights16/03/25 12:29 PM
18

In general, women are more likely than men to act as a collective/hivemind, based on whatever they perceive to be acceptable by the group. Men are more prone to being independent "screw what the world thinks" who have less of a problem going against the tide. It's mostly just our nature.
/r/MensRights13/03/25 08:49 PM
2

Well written. It's largely about misled men coming to terms with reality, vs the false worldview that's been pushed upon them.
/r/MensRights12/03/25 06:17 PM
1

>The gaslighting make believe word salad argument they pretend to believe in is "You can't be racist/sexist against white/men because racism/sexism is prejudice plus power". It's gross to view the word in such racial terms as they do, but at least it's true that you can arguably say whites have more power in society than some other racial groups. This line of argumentation falls apart the moment you start asking questions about what exactly is meant by "power". The person making this claim is re…
/r/MensRights04/03/25 09:25 PM
1

First of all, so what? I'm an individual person. If it's racist to assume a black person is a criminal based on crime stats, it's sexist to assume a man is a criminal based on crime stats. Second of all... it's generally far easier to prove violent wrongdoing vs nonviolent wrongdoing, due to the nature of those types of crimes, and what evidence they leave. It's pretty obvious that since men are much stronger on average, you should expect the nature of their wrongdoings to more frequently be of …
/r/MensRights24/02/25 05:46 PM
1

They're looking at the labels masculine and feminine as prescriptive, which is why none of it makes sense. Those labels are descriptive.
/r/MensRights16/02/25 07:55 PM
7

I'd guess it's one of those classic situations where there's a tiny minority of men like that, but they make a big impression when encountered irl
/r/MensRights08/02/25 03:45 PM
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Yeah that's such a weird thing to even say, I've never met a man who said they believed they were entitled to sex. As far as I can tell it's pretty much a made-up thing.
/r/MensRights08/02/25 11:37 AM
2

I'd say roughly on par overall, but kinda apples and oranges of course.
/r/MensRights30/01/25 02:02 AM
2

I think it's because violence by men is generally more blatant, and easier to identify and clearly condemn. Women's violence is of often of a more varied and subtle nature, so it's a little more dicey to label and oppose.
/r/MensRights29/01/25 01:27 AM
1

Overly broad statement. All women don't do it, and neither do all men.
/r/MensRights27/01/25 11:43 AM
3

100% agreed there. IMO, terms like "reducing to their sexuality/appearance "and "objectifying" are used too loosely (similar to how many feminists overuse terms like "misogyny"), when the way you stated it here is a much better argument that really explains the crux of the issue... she's inappropriately sexualizing him, given the context. If this was real life and the setting was out at a beach bar, dance club, etc that could change things a bit.
/r/MensRights25/01/25 05:58 PM
8

Reducing someone to their physical appearance without their consent is objectification, plain and simple Commenting on someone's physical appearance isn't the same thing as reducing someone to their physical appearance. It's a crucial distinction that far too many people (due to ignorance or dishonesty) fail to make.
/r/MensRights25/01/25 04:48 PM
4

You're not wrong, it's the double standard that is the issue.
/r/MensRights25/01/25 04:45 PM
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The apparent double standard, as usual, is the primary problem. "Men shouldn't sexualize women, but since some of them do it it's ok for me to sexualize men". Pick a lane, yknow?
/r/MensRights25/01/25 04:44 PM
13

Exactly. Obviously there are some deadbeat dads (and moms), but lots of men make the pragmatic choice to not expend a ton of resources fighting what they have good reason to expect is a losing battle. It's tough.
/r/MensRights19/01/25 01:55 AM
5

That's a dumb af generalization on their part, treating men as a monolith.
/r/MensRights16/01/25 05:47 PM
2

Just looked at the article, and he clearly was talking about having priorities in order. Aka, don't waste money on frivolous stuff if you don't have your finances in a good place. That's a great rule of thumb.
/r/MensRights23/12/24 08:11 PM
10

Even worse, that stupid content was probably ignored by the hivemind instead of being called out for the flat-earther tier idiocy that it is. Because it doesn't go against the grain, and that's all that people like that care about. Being accepted by their peers...not being right.
/r/MensRights20/12/24 08:22 PM
3

By wrestling...? Lolol
/r/MensRights18/12/24 07:25 PM
36

It's basically feeling entitled to only receiving interest from people who they are interested in. Social media has made this a far more common and extreme problem in the last 10-20 yrs IMO.
/r/MensRights07/12/24 01:13 AM
8

Otherwise known as being a unprincipled, manipulative leaching scumbag.
/r/MensRights06/12/24 08:52 PM
-1

I think the terms should be used to simply mean "bad behaviors most commonly seen in men/women"
/r/MensRights30/11/24 11:14 PM
4

Hey, there will always be stupid and evil people. But I agree that in my personal experience, the BS about "pay gap" is becoming more common knowledge. Slowly.
/r/MensRights22/11/24 06:54 PM
6

Yeah, if they post actual sources, ok cool check some of them out and give them a good read. Otherwise, I'll assume they have a heavy bias which results in frequent propagation of misleading and/or false information. I've seen too many examples of that so far.
/r/MensRights21/11/24 02:24 AM
1

Even if that claim is true that doesn't mean anything by itself. There could be so many other correlating factors at play that explain better governance. Anybody touting a claim like this, thinking it proves women are better at governing, probably also thinks ice cream sales drive murders. ol.
/r/MensRights17/11/24 12:49 AM
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Lmao, from the article: :I’ll admit I have been a culprit in using the phrase before when I’ve been angry or inconvenienced. Like when I was hungry and lashed out at my ex-boyfriend, followed by saying “I’m sorry, I’m hungry and I’m just a girl,” or using it after getting a bad grade on an exam. " I'm glad she's doing some introspection, but damn... I've never even considered excusing bad behavior by males by saying "boys will be boys". "Boys will be boys" should be used for things like playing …
/r/MensRights12/11/24 05:14 PM
15

That's pretty much always what it turns out to be when you apply the slightest bit of scrutiny to their definitions. They're bad faith actors, pure evil.
/r/MensRights04/11/24 07:38 PM
9

Says something about how ineffective therapy is for most men.
/r/MensRights20/10/24 08:28 PM
0

I'm sure you know the drill. It's primarily about the perception of the audience, not convincing that specific (and typically far- gone) person.
/r/MensRights27/09/24 08:59 PM
4

That's true, sure, but less productive IMO.
/r/MensRights27/09/24 04:41 PM
106

No need for hip new terms. Keep it simple, she's a sexist bigot.
/r/MensRights27/09/24 02:03 PM
21

Pretty fucked that they're discriminating against people for their hormone levels.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 11:07 PM
14

This is not a surprise to many men, and sure as hell isn't a surprise to me.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 01:13 PM
43

I vote this, yeah. I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate "small boob energy" or "fat chick energy" type insults, and would jump all over them as body shaming. If people aren't consistent in their supposed standards, you can safely discount their opinions as fucking dumb.
/r/MensRights09/08/24 01:29 PM
3

Then if you use that presumption to say "Why can't the same hold true for black men being inherently more violent than white men?"... you're met with rage. Just no internal consistency.
/r/MensRights23/07/24 11:35 AM
0

It seems some people are so dumb, they cannot comprehend that you can have several factors going in your favor or against you. Funny how selectively some people apply the concept of intersectionality, isn't it?
/r/MensRights23/07/24 11:34 AM
12

No, I'm talking about overall differences which manifest themselves in myriad ways. Men take more lives than women, and men also put their lives in peril for others more than women. Men tend to be the pushers and drivers of society, both in good and bad ways. Women tend to be more in the middle.
/r/MensRights20/07/24 01:08 AM
20

Right; in most matters of life, men are more direct and physically aggressive, while women are less direct and more manipulative. We're different, and that's ok.
/r/MensRights19/07/24 11:31 PM
4

Sooo since women virtually never ask for consent...
/r/MensRights29/06/24 12:14 AM
14

Because men are by default expected to be the pushers and movers of society.
/r/MensRights09/06/24 03:34 PM
10

Why are you holding male employees to higher performance standards than female employees in the same position? If the females cannot meet the expectations of the job they were hired for, bye-bye.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 06:26 PM
3

I get where you're coming from, but that's also why it's so important to develop a strong sense of self-worth. Generally speaking, other people can sense when you don't, and will shy away from you. Work on your weaknesses, hone your strengths, develop strong work ethic, and actively work towards goals you've set. That goes a long way.
/r/MensRights07/06/24 01:33 PM
2

I’ll start off with saying I respect all women Man, you shouldn't respect all members of any group. There are shitty women, shitty men, shitty tall people, shitty short people, etc etc.
/r/MensRights04/06/24 06:40 PM
0

in conclusion, gendered roles we learn from infancy are the reason... Why do you assume gender roles are the cause of this, as opposed to biology?
/r/MensRights29/05/24 04:24 PM
113

"A lot of men are bad"? That's a meaningless statement. There are around 3.5 billion men, even if only 0.001% of men are bad, that's still "a lot" of men. Don't let people get away with slimy vague bullshit statements like this. Ask them to quantify the claim, even roughly.
/r/MensRights23/05/24 06:42 PM
1

Yuppp. Men tend to be the pushers and movers of society. Both for better and for worse. Women tend to be "mid" more often. It's not inherently good or bad, just how it is.
/r/MensRights13/05/24 05:13 PM
2

Right; men do more violence, women do more non-violent manipulation and violence by proxy. The average strength difference alone is probably a pretty big reason why, let alone stuff like hormones, societal stuff, etc.
/r/MensRights13/05/24 05:10 PM
2

Ngl those are pretty inefficient standards, for shame.
/r/MensRights12/05/24 09:36 AM
5

That's what happens when people think with nothing but their ideology and emotions... they end up writing stupid articles like this ignoramus did.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 03:49 PM
12

Because men and women both tend to empathize with girls/women more easily.
/r/MensRights16/04/24 10:06 PM
1

Gotta encourage the competition to plump up, so you have less competition!
/r/MensRights12/04/24 06:52 PM
2

It's just fundamentally different, yeah. The sooner society stops pretending to the contrary, the sooner we can get back on the common sense train.
/r/MensRights22/03/24 09:44 PM
2

Not all taken, just more of them.
/r/MensRights22/03/24 08:31 PM
5

Just like I'd say to women dating a bunch of abusive men...this is an example of a stereotypical bad woman. Most of the good ones are already in relationships, by virtue of being the good ones. Of course you have no obligation to date and such if you don't want to. But take it from me, someone who married an evil woman, divorced, and is now happily re-married to a wonderful woman years later...there are good ones out there. You just have to develop the traits that attract good ones, be patient, …
/r/MensRights22/03/24 05:20 PM
20

Some people are evil. Some movements attract more evil people than others.
/r/MensRights06/03/24 08:03 PM
1

"Other than one of the foundational things any species needs to survive" lmao.
/r/MensRights05/03/24 12:26 AM
1

This is a very valid point.
/r/MensRights04/03/24 05:20 PM
16

I hope Amy has the day she deserves.
/r/MensRights29/02/24 11:01 PM
1

Or or or, wild thought...maybe we just hire the best candidate, instead of discriminating based on sex?
/r/MensRights29/02/24 07:28 PM
1

Not to mention that it commands a certain amount of respect from many people, especially those who know enough to appreciate the work ethic and commitment a well-built body entails.
/r/MensRights22/02/24 05:45 PM
3

Gotcha. Well that's just dumb as shit on their part, blatantly false.
/r/MensRights20/02/24 01:50 AM
3

What kind of context are you talking about this being said?
/r/MensRights19/02/24 10:58 PM
1

In my opinion yes, absolutely. We should encourage phrasing things ways that denote more agency, and less fate.
/r/MensRights18/02/24 08:35 PM
7

These concepts are not mutually exclusive. They both contain truth.
/r/MensRights18/02/24 06:43 PM
6

Does demographic information such as sex not inform people about certain proclivities?
/r/MensRights18/02/24 06:36 PM
6

It's wise to know the proclivities of the people you interact with, isn't it?
/r/MensRights18/02/24 06:27 PM
7

Having a vagina clearly correlates with that behavior, if you insist on being crude about it.
/r/MensRights18/02/24 06:17 PM
25

Yes there are men who do this too. Women do it far more. It's like saying "Golden retrievers can attack kids too!" In a conversation about the risks of owning dalmatians or pitbulls.
/r/MensRights18/02/24 04:51 PM
5

100%, the attitude that someone else can 'make' you feel a certain way is an agency-reducing way of thinking that breeds a victim mentality.
/r/MensRights18/02/24 12:48 PM
4

Totally valid point being made by the article, but holy shit does nobody proofread anymore? So many grammatical errors.
/r/MensRights16/02/24 08:47 PM
3

Where did he say or insinuate he was a hero or a saint?
/r/MensRights08/02/24 12:34 AM
4

Be the change you want to see in the world. Start having other guys over for a cigar, to watch a movie, work on something together, go for a hike with them, whatever. Develop the spaces that you think should exist. If not you, then who?
/r/MensRights07/02/24 03:18 AM
3

Exactly! The idea that you're not responsible for your actions after you knowingly ingested a psychoactive substance is insane. It could be different if he spiked her drink or something...
/r/MensRights31/01/24 04:19 PM
3

Which I like, in a way; it reinforces work ethic, smart use of limited resources, progression, etc. But it can sure suck for men who mess up, since they get much less help getting back on their feet.
/r/MensRights31/01/24 11:38 AM
7

I've been around and aware enough to know that much of the left merely sees members of "oppressed" demographics as tools to be used, and discarded if they don't fit the right mold. They care primarily about the appearance of diversity (skin color, hair color, gender identity, etc), not about diversity of opinions. Which is ironic, considering the whole point of caring about diversity of appearance is rooted in (supposedly, anyways) the assumption that it's a good indicator of someone having diff…
/r/MensRights31/01/24 11:36 AM
0

Oh don't worry, my kids will be raised to know the signs
/r/MensRights25/01/24 03:57 PM
1

I'm sure there is some of that in settings like you're describing (undergrad, some of the more liberal cities, etc). All I'm saying is that in real life, in most parts of the country, that's not an actual discussion.
/r/MensRights25/01/24 03:29 PM
8

Lollll
/r/MensRights25/01/24 12:35 PM
20

These days, I feel like around 20% of women do any noteworthy cleaning lmao.
/r/MensRights25/01/24 12:26 PM
50

Well I assume this stupid trend is supposed to showcase how bad men are at (stereotypically) women's duties. So the direct comparison would be a husband asking his wife to change the oil, then video her and critique her lack of knowledge.
/r/MensRights25/01/24 11:54 AM
-1

If that were to happen in irl situations, that's different.
/r/MensRights25/01/24 11:32 AM
-6

Maybe to you. In real life, idgaf what terminally online neckbeard communists with the testosterone levels of 75 year old men think about masculinity.
/r/MensRights25/01/24 03:17 AM
-3

Sorry, not seeing how that logic evidently follows to you.
/r/MensRights20/01/24 04:54 PM
-7

I do. That, and the point of the person you responded to, aren't mutually exclusive, are they?
/r/MensRights20/01/24 04:43 PM
-6

No, I don't gamble. I work in an extremely risk-oriented career field.
/r/MensRights20/01/24 04:38 PM
-22

Ehh, it can be both.
/r/MensRights20/01/24 04:27 PM
2

Oh 100% lmao
/r/MensRights20/01/24 02:02 PM
8

Lol her video angle was garbage for showing a barbell row.
/r/MensRights20/01/24 01:11 AM
3

Probably obvious in hindsight..but you've gotta address changes early on. Otherwise, momentum usually wins.
/r/MensRights17/01/24 10:59 PM
4

It's fine and dandy if that's true (that men tend to cheat due to physical attraction, whereas women tend to cheat due to emotional connection)...so what, yknow? That doesn't makes it better or worse. Any critique you can apply to one goes both ways. Wife cheated because husband wasn't giving her the emotional support she wanted? OK, and what about the husband who cheated because his wife wasn't giving him the physical connection he wanted? How is it a man's fault for failing to maintain emotion…
/r/MensRights17/01/24 07:51 PM
15

Same idea with my wife! I noticed she held herself accountable, and genuinely apologized when she screwed up (as do I). Big green flag energy.
/r/MensRights17/01/24 07:46 PM
13

I'm sure you're mostly joking, but honestly I think it's because these kinds of women are just shallow, entitled assholes. I'd rather that be put right out there up front, yknow?
/r/MensRights16/01/24 08:51 PM
5

All the more reason to know what red flags to look for.
/r/MensRights11/01/24 12:20 PM
25

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, and men generally aren't as squeaky about our issues.
/r/MensRights08/01/24 07:11 PM
1

I work in fraud/finance; I've noticed that when political hot topics come up, most coworkers/direct reports/higher ups will openly express a common sense, generally middle of the road stance. Even just 5ish years ago, I'd regularly encounter pretty hard-core feminists who wear loud about it every chance they get, and I'm not seeing that much anymore.
/r/MensRights04/01/24 04:28 AM
1

In my daily professional life, I'm seeing the tide turning. It does take time, and persistence.
/r/MensRights04/01/24 12:37 AM
1

I disagree. If my employer expects me to be sexist to maintain my employment, I'll find a more ethical employer.
/r/MensRights28/12/23 10:28 PM
6

Yeah that part's pretty fucked too, that OP treats women with far more respect than men. Perpetuating the very problem he's complaining about...
/r/MensRights28/12/23 11:20 AM
1

Everyone makes their own judgment.
/r/MensRights23/12/23 01:31 PM
0

No one is owed companionship. This. Wanna attract a better partner? Become a good person, and therefore a good partner.
/r/MensRights21/12/23 11:05 PM
1

and conclude that men are often more dishonest than women, especially in competitive settings where lies advance self-interest. So in traditionally masculine areas, men are more competitive & dishonest. Funny, it's the same with traditionally feminine things too, like beauty. Women are very dishonest there, relative to men. I wonder if they surveyed women on how many of them use makeup, hair dye, pushup bras, flattering clothing, etc to give themselves a dishonest competitive advantage...no? Did…
/r/MensRights16/12/23 03:55 PM
2

Do you literally not know how social groups work? Across large groups of people and time, stories get around when predatory people give off signs. They almost always do.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 03:53 AM
3

Correct. Unless you have a way for women know if a man is a predator within hours of meeting him with 100% certainty?
/r/MensRights12/12/23 03:36 AM
5

Nope, didn't say that at all. Most men are decent, overall good people. There will always be predators though.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 03:14 AM
7

Just stop, this is stupid. You meet someone at a bar/on an app that you barely know, that's a strange man. Pedantic bullshit through and through, Jesus.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 02:23 AM
10

Both can be true. Just like it's ok to tell men not to rape women, and it's also ok to tell women they shouldn't go home with strange men.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 11:37 PM
-1

Yeah, at most.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 03:09 AM
1

And preferences, even. Of course it also doesn't mean people need to broadcast their preferences for the public, that's not generally productive for anybody.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 12:57 AM
4

Agreed!
/r/MensRights10/12/23 10:35 PM
-9

I don't think it's best to call it fetishizing, it comes across as all too similar to the needlessly insulting phrasing feminists often use. I do get your point though, that women expect an unrealistic masculine ideal in a partner...and I'd say that's about as distasteful as men who look for an absurdly submissive partner.
/r/MensRights10/12/23 09:05 PM
30

Men don't care about their female partner being bisexual nearly as much as women care about their male partner being bisexual.
/r/MensRights10/12/23 09:02 PM
8

Exactly. It's fine for a straight person to not want to date someone who is bisexual, even if it's specifically because they are bisexual. 100%, completely fine, nothing wrong with it in the slightest. Talking trash about someone because they're gay/bi/queer/whatever? Very much not ok.
/r/MensRights10/12/23 09:01 PM
5

Can we stop with the "phobia" nonsense though? Virtually nobody is scared of gay/bi/queer people.
/r/MensRights10/12/23 08:59 PM
3

What do you mean by "right" to safety?
/r/MensRights30/11/23 01:07 PM
24

Ask what point they think that makes.
/r/MensRights23/11/23 07:39 PM
2

If you actually think men have EVERYTHING in life harder than women, you are divorced from reality. Men get more of a shit hand in some areas, and women do in others. But to say you believe men have it worse in every way is no better than the BS feminist propaganda claiming the exact opposite. Life is not that simple my man.
/r/MensRights17/11/23 07:29 PM
25

He said any, not every.
/r/MensRights17/11/23 06:07 PM
14

Because they don't care, of course.
/r/MensRights17/11/23 06:06 PM
18

That's not something I wrote. Is there anything I wrote that you disagree with?
/r/MensRights14/11/23 02:08 AM
19

Do you disagree with anything I wrote though?
/r/MensRights14/11/23 01:49 AM
28

It depends on what you mean by "drive worse". https://www.syracuse.com/news/2011/07/women_worse_drivers_more_crashes_than_men_less_driving.html A more precise way to put it is to say that men are more proficient drivers, but they also take more risks. This results in more deadly accidents with men driving, even though it's often women getting into more accidents per mile than men...but since they're typically driving slower, those accidents are less likely to be fatal.
/r/MensRights14/11/23 01:38 AM
2

The pendulum always swings back. How quickly it does that depends on how effectively tragedies like false accusations are communicated to the general public.
/r/MensRights11/11/23 05:31 PM
20

It unequivocally does happen. The only thing subject to debate is how often it happens.
/r/MensRights11/11/23 11:56 AM
3

It entirely depends on context. How well do I know each person, how trustworthy are they, why is she posting this on social media instead of filing a police report, etc.
/r/MensRights11/11/23 11:55 AM
1

Largely to blame for that are judges who default to siding with women, under their own nebulous and subjective notions of what's "in the best interest of the child". In my situation I am by all metrics the parent that will raise our child to be a better human. I have financial stability and career progression, an amazing family support system, a stable, caring fiancé I've been with for years, a house, completely clean record, no issues or history with drug abuse, violence, anger or psychological…
/r/MensRights09/11/23 05:16 PM
2

And make sure men actually default to get 50/50 custody, without having to spend 5 figures in legal fees.
/r/MensRights09/11/23 12:33 PM
0

Probably mostly the same reasons that men keep asking where the good women are at.
/r/MensRights09/11/23 01:52 AM
25

Usually when people say "not all men", they should be saying "very few men".
/r/MensRights02/11/23 06:35 PM
1

It only shames you if you believe you've done something shame-worthy.
/r/MensRights30/10/23 04:39 PM
1

Generally speaking, adult women (at least up to their late 30s, give or take) are much more valuable than their make counterparts whet it comes to who is pursuing vs who is being pursued. However, far too many of them don't release there's that "expiration date", and that if they don't find and lock down a good partner by then, their prospects at finding a good man (who will commit to them) nosedive. It's honestly sad both for men and women, in different ways.
/r/MensRights28/10/23 12:07 PM
2

The end of your OP, you mean? If so, then yeah I think getting your own place, and a dog (if you're sure you can commit to giving the dog sufficient attention regularly) are fantastic goals. I truly wish I'd gotten a dog sooner, but am grateful to have an amazing one now.
/r/MensRights24/10/23 11:22 PM
5

To be clear, are you saying you cannot even conceptualize what a better existence would look like?
/r/MensRights24/10/23 10:06 PM
4

Oh so women are allowed to want to marry up, but apparently men don't get to have that same preference in reverse? Hypocritical simps.
/r/MensRights20/10/23 12:06 PM
1

I wonder how many people are disconnected enough from reality to genuinely believe that discrimination should even be a top 10 concern currently.
/r/MensRights08/10/23 01:44 PM
6

"Only mean commit rape" Oh really, why? "Because we've defined rape as something only a man can do" Well that's not a very useful term for conversations about sexual assault then, now is it?
/r/MensRights08/10/23 11:20 AM
14

"I started making better life choices, this made my husband happy, so I hate him."
/r/MensRights07/10/23 03:47 PM
2

Oh sure, not saying it isn't worth addressing!
/r/MensRights04/10/23 12:30 PM
9

The problem is that AIs inherit the bias that is present in text that they're trained on. Tbh I wouldn't say it's a "problem", I view this fact as a tell about societal bias against men.
/r/MensRights04/10/23 11:29 AM
2

Personally, I think necessity. Men tend to do the dangerous, high-stakes, most physically taxing work in societies. If you spend all sorts of time reflecting on how you feel, you're less focused on the task at hand. Focusing and talking about how you feel is a privilege, not a right.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 07:38 PM
9

I've been saying that! Male athletes make more than female counterparts (due to supply and demand), and people freak out. Female models make more than male models (but why male models?), and those same people don't bat an eye.
/r/MensRights22/09/23 06:05 PM
7

Idk I feel like in an ideal world, nobody is getting raped for starters...
/r/MensRights21/09/23 12:34 PM
5

Good point, to make the equation even worse for the falsely accused.
/r/MensRights17/09/23 04:41 PM
12

Both rape and false accusations of rape are horrific. With that out of the way, I'd rather be raped than spend 20 yrs in prison for a crime I didn't commit.
/r/MensRights17/09/23 11:55 AM
0

It's a broad generalization, not literal and 100% across the board. Not to mention the obvious physical shortcomings of postmenopausal women compared to the average military age male lol.
/r/MensRights17/09/23 10:21 AM
12

It's generally reflective of a universal imbalance in empathy for men; men are viewed as labor tools, women are viewed as reproductive tools. Reproductive tools are considered more inherently valuable on the basis of their existence. Understand that, and things make more sense.
/r/MensRights16/09/23 02:25 PM
1

How would that differ?
/r/MensRights14/09/23 01:39 PM
1

>Do you accept FTM as males That entirely depends on what you mean by this...?
/r/MensRights14/09/23 01:10 PM
1

I disagree; I think people suffering from irrational fears should figure out how to get their view of the world to better comport with reality.
/r/MensRights02/09/23 10:52 PM
1

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/forensic-insights/202112/the-truth-about-stranger-homicide-and-whos-really-risk ​ "In 2020, for example, there were just over 21,000 homicides reported in the U.S. Of these, less than 5% of victims were female. Overall, less than 10% of all homicides were believed to have been committed by a stranger. Of the female homicide victims, the vast majority were murdered by a man known to them – a family member, intimate partner, or neighbour, for example." ​ I g…
/r/MensRights02/09/23 06:25 PM
4

I appreciate your comments; you answered clearly and evidently with integrity.
/r/MensRights02/09/23 06:21 PM
5

Sounds like she is a selfish, controlling person. About that simple.
/r/MensRights02/09/23 01:00 AM
3

>The right to equal pay for the same job. This is already enshrined in law, so we can skip this one. ​ >The right to pay the same amount for our goods and services. If women are consistently being charged more for a product for no reason other than being a woman, why wouldn't companies step in to fill that market gap and make a killer profit? ​ >The right to not be sexually harassed at work. Both men and women already have (the same) laws protecting them here. ​ In conclusion, you have nothing.
/r/MensRights31/08/23 04:17 PM
6

Treating that fact as a sign of women being oppressed is where people go wrong.
/r/MensRights31/08/23 04:14 PM
3

You very clearly do not understand what rights are.
/r/MensRights31/08/23 12:22 PM
4

Aka, nothing that is an actual right, only *wants*.
/r/MensRights31/08/23 12:20 PM
4

I have two options : either biting until blood or grabbing the crotch and squeeze them as hard as I can Guns are truly a beautiful equalizer <3
/r/MensRights31/08/23 12:12 PM
6

You clearly mean something different by "rights"; what do you think a right is?
/r/MensRights31/08/23 12:09 PM
7

Do you think this argument thing is a subconscious test that women do? Basically if the man doesn't bow down, rather sticks to his stance in the argument, she will respect him and be attracted to him? ​ Often, yes. Either women don't even realize they're doing it/why they're doing it, or they refuse to admit they are doing it consciously. I get why, too. They generally want a man who has his values, and sticks to those values, but if they make it knows it's a test, the test isn't valid yknow?
/r/MensRights25/08/23 04:42 PM
1

It does seem like a condition of a country being a member of the UN should that there is no conscription, period. Feels like that kind of thing ought to be considered a fundamental human right ("you cannot be forced to fight on behalf of another")
/r/MensRights24/08/23 02:43 PM
2

It does seem like a condition of a country being a member of the UN should that there is no conscription, period. Feels like kind of thing ought to be considered as a fundamental human right ("you cannot be forced/obligated to fight on behalf of another")
/r/MensRights24/08/23 02:41 PM
2

Nobody else can make you feel any way. You are the captain of your own ship; learning to distinguish between truth and common opinion is of the utmost important.
/r/MensRights16/08/23 11:25 AM
1

You’re not to bright are you? I love it.
/r/MensRights14/08/23 01:56 PM
-7

And if it were true?
/r/MensRights14/08/23 01:33 PM
-2

That's not discrimination.
/r/MensRights14/08/23 01:33 PM
-1

It's not discriminating to blame a group for something. You clearly don't know the meaning of "discriminate".
/r/MensRights14/08/23 11:42 AM
2

Yes! The same risky and aggressive behaviors that result in men's criminality and recklessness also gave us the flourishing technologically advanced society that we reap the benefits of, so the vast majority of people no longer have to live their whole lives on the brink of starvation. A little gratefulness goes a long way.
/r/MensRights12/08/23 03:11 PM
3

More significantly, without all that testosterone...men are less likely to engage in the very risky behaviors that developed our modern affluent society, and keep it running.
/r/MensRights11/08/23 11:12 AM
1

Welcome to a thing called consequences, lol.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 08:18 PM
1

You write like someone who has been around the sun more than a few times, and has picked up a good bit of wisdom along the way. Preach!
/r/MensRights10/08/23 12:21 AM
1

There 100% is an epidemic of spineless men that contributes to this; I could go on for a while about that topic.
/r/MensRights09/08/23 02:11 PM
2

Not remotely. It's simply truth.
/r/MensRights09/08/23 12:15 PM
2

>>Overwhelmingly, men are far stronger and more resilient than women. >Yeah but isn't that because of the first part? I think women that grow up in similar circumstances learn to be tough and resilient as well. Physical strength, perhaps men are a little stronger on average, although I am sure plenty of women that go to the gym casually are stronger than male nerds that don't. But everything else is a product of their environment by my reckoning. ​ No, it's because of basic biology. If you are o…
/r/MensRights09/08/23 11:03 AM
7

Very well put. Most people need to put more emphasis on introspection and personal development, and less focus on bitching about everyone else!
/r/MensRights08/08/23 07:58 PM
15

>No help, no compliments, expectations of hard physical work, expectations of financial support, expectations of protection and sacrifice....every day. These are generally true; I would prefer this type of life to a pampered one that leaves me underdeveloped and unchallenged. It's important to embrace discomfort and view challenges through the lens of progress and improvement. Overwhelmingly, men are far stronger and more resilient than women. It should not be any surprise that it's normal to vi…
/r/MensRights08/08/23 07:46 PM
6

To all too many people, sure is!
/r/MensRights08/08/23 07:13 PM
5

Things like what?
/r/MensRights08/08/23 06:41 PM
55

Being a man is harder in some ways, being a woman is harder in some ways. If a person has specific suggestions or thoughts as to how something can be improved, I'm all ears. If they just want to complain about vague unfalsifiable crap, that's a waste of my time.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 04:37 PM
13

Yeah as long as she doesn't object to the flip side of that (as OP referenced, "teaching daughters how to be good wives", I don't see the problem. Having said that, unfortunately I expect there is no such reciprocity.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 02:52 PM
15

If you're the kind of person where their whole identity is wrapped up in being trans, maybe not. If you're someone who thinks talking about men's rights is worthwhile, you're welcome no matter who you are.
/r/MensRights06/08/23 01:10 AM
1

So people saying things like "men are dogs" or even "men are such assholes" is misogyny by that same standard, since it deprives men of agency.
/r/MensRights05/08/23 02:22 PM
11

Depends on if there's a double standard. Personally, I wouldn't mind it at all with my fiance.
/r/MensRights04/08/23 04:06 PM
2

What's your point?
/r/MensRights04/08/23 01:37 AM
152

Or women who love men.
/r/MensRights12/07/23 12:17 AM
2

100%. They don't want to put in the work to set a good foundation, so they whine about abstract crap (that they also screw up...).
/r/MensRights07/07/23 05:47 PM
29

Tools about gender, conversations about gender... These people can't get the basics right like "be nice to your fellow humans", but they think they have business getting into abstract shit. They need to listen to JP...clean your room before you try to change the world.
/r/MensRights06/07/23 12:48 AM
6

That's fair enough, depending on the country of course. Like most of reddit, it's often assumed people are from America.
/r/MensRights05/07/23 12:05 PM
30

That sentiment is manifest in the current educational system for starters.
/r/MensRights05/07/23 12:05 PM
12

I know hindsight is 20/20 and all, but battery like this needs to be reported to law enforcement. The fact that it happened at school has nothing to do with anything. A person attacked you, the end.
/r/MensRights05/07/23 11:28 AM
1

I wrote "often to gain status/get women."
/r/MensRights02/07/23 10:26 AM
1

What are you saying is literally impossible?
/r/MensRights02/07/23 10:25 AM
30

Yeah, they're wrong though (except in fringe cases). A woman who can't get laid is an anomaly, a man who can't get laid is relatively normal. But hey, that's arguably why we live in such an awesome world filled with advances and possibilities, because of men innovating, often to gain status/get women. Striving for excellence is what propels us.
/r/MensRights01/07/23 12:30 PM
1

Exactly. It's patently ridiculous for family courts to expect any involved party to maintain their former standard of living.
/r/MensRights24/06/23 09:24 PM
3

The standard is fucked to begin with; there is absolutely no justification for expecting that the man should provide for the woman/child at a level where they can maintain the lifestyle they're accustomed to.
/r/MensRights24/06/23 02:18 PM
2

You'll find that about a lot of current hot political topics. It's 100% the people at the top working to keep the lower class at each other's throats, by constantly focusing media coverage on less and less significant (to our individual lives) events.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 02:38 AM
1

If you read the article, it seems they have a pretty good reason for doing it this way with the plea deal; it was partially so the kids wouldn't have to testify, and partially to avoid the possibility for a mis-trial which could end up with the kid going back to his abusive biological mother. Part of the plea deal was her losing all parental rights.
/r/MensRights20/06/23 05:46 PM
3

Hmm, seems like they should create a different job title and lower pay grade for unskilled labor like basic cleaning...
/r/MensRights17/06/23 11:53 PM
62

Alternatively, it could also be phrased as "men do 29% more actual work in the office".
/r/MensRights17/06/23 02:58 PM
1

100% agreed
/r/MensRights16/06/23 06:04 PM
32

They didn't give any actual justification for their stance, they're making an entirely empty proclamation.
/r/MensRights16/06/23 02:01 PM
13

The issue was always that the people saying that are typically entitled pieces of shit trying to justify their asshole behavior.
/r/MensRights16/06/23 01:27 PM
3

100% true.
/r/MensRights10/06/23 02:03 AM
3

And when more and more "liberated" women suffer from depression, they blame the patriarchy...
/r/MensRights10/06/23 12:37 AM
3

After making sure that's legal.
/r/MensRights03/06/23 02:27 PM
13

From what it sounds like, you encountered a group of sexist cunts. Fuck their opinions, they are detached from reality. Trying to reason with those types is like trying to reason with a homeless crackhead.
/r/MensRights28/05/23 04:32 PM
-2

Much better way of putting it!
/r/MensRights25/05/23 03:07 AM
-10

Having a child is not a right.
/r/MensRights25/05/23 02:31 AM
23

Its because those people don't believe in morals based on unwavering principles, they believe in morals based on (whatever gives them more) power.
/r/MensRights14/05/23 10:01 AM
9

That's hitting the nail on the head.
/r/MensRights07/05/23 03:42 PM
50

But that's not your fault, just because you happen to be a woman. You're not responsible for the actions of other people (other than your kids to a degree).
/r/MensRights03/05/23 10:47 PM
9

This author is hypocritical as shit. They claimed that the term "females" indicates sexism, then proceeds to use the term "male" (and "female") multiple times throughout the article when referring to men and women.
/r/MensRights29/04/23 12:47 PM
1

If they think most men are rapists, they are certifiably delusional.
/r/MensRights26/04/23 11:08 PM
9

I'll second what the above person said, as a dude in my 30's with a solid career.
/r/MensRights26/04/23 07:04 PM
70

Women are worse at something? Must be men's fault, and men need to fix it. Men are worse at something? Must be men's fault, and men need to fix it.
/r/MensRights26/04/23 12:37 AM
16

That would only work if they were actually using logic there in the first place...
/r/MensRights14/04/23 06:26 PM
2

And there's not enough punishment for the women who do that.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 10:27 PM
5

There was a similar one about how something like 11% of all journalists killed are women...
/r/MensRights05/04/23 05:51 PM
3

From how I see it used most of the time currently, when people say "objectify", they typically mean something like "acknowledge a woman's sexuality". In this context, the woman's sexuality is usually being intentionally accentuated by her clothes, lipstick, blush, eyeliner, heels, etc. A man flaunting his wealth/social status would be just as bone-headed to complain about women objectifying him. They're bullshit double-standards; feminists pushing this garbage are either useful idiots, or liars.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 05:28 PM
4

>So, what do you expect me to do about it? I don't want to be approached romantically. Hopefully, you understand that your preference (of not being approached romantically) is unrealistic. ​ >What exactly do you think I should do? Not be cautious of my surroundings and situation? Not worry about a possible negative outcome? Not at all, those are good. ​ >Also, IMO, it's quite a stretch to compare wariness of men in a narrowly defined social situation to interactions with a whole race of people. …
/r/MensRights21/03/23 05:11 PM
19

Do you realize how racist that would sound if you swapped "men" for "black people", and "women" for "white people"?
/r/MensRights21/03/23 01:37 PM
16

>For me, it's the men who won't take no for an answer or become angry when rejected. Do you think people in this thread believe it's ok for men to not take no for an answer, or get upset to the point of stalking? Obviously, those things happen. But society overwhelmingly condemns that behavior, so unless those incidents are severe/frequent enough (relative to other problems society faces) to warrant special attention, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make that you think the general popul…
/r/MensRights21/03/23 01:04 PM
7

100%. Once you switch out "men" for a religious group, a racial group, etc, it's obvious how sexist and unfair it is.
/r/MensRights20/03/23 07:33 PM
6

Yup. Often it'll manifest in little ways like "the trash stinks. It needs to go out"... when she has no intention of taking it out. "The hallway is such a mess", etc. Rather than do it themselves, or have even the decency to politely ask their significant other to do it directly, all too many women will try to indirectly pressure the man into doing what she wants without technically asking him to do anything.
/r/MensRights20/03/23 07:31 PM
2

The idea that you have any responsibility for the actions of anybody but yourself (except your children to an extent) is patently insane. There is no valid reason to hold that view, period. You are responsible for your actions. Not other people who happen to have their genitals in common with you. Thinking to the contrary is as stupid as thinking that 5'11" people are responsible for the actions of their fellow 5'11" people, or that redheads are responsible for the actions of other redheads. It'…
/r/MensRights13/03/23 12:26 AM
1

While I think most people here would (understandably) argue that men don't have more power than women overall, I do think it's sensible to give half-credit when it's due.
/r/MensRights12/03/23 01:00 PM
2

Got nothing then, neat.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 10:21 PM
2

?
/r/MensRights10/03/23 10:17 PM
2

What. How?
/r/MensRights10/03/23 09:19 PM
13

That's no lady lmao
/r/MensRights10/03/23 11:54 AM
11

I can appreciate that angle. And don't get me wrong, my partner is someone I trust completely. But she's also the kind of person who wouldn't go on that kind of inherently "single oriented" vacation in the first place, so there's that.
/r/MensRights09/03/23 09:13 PM
18

While there's truth to that, I think that even absent that difference it's apparent your asks are plenty reasonable.
/r/MensRights09/03/23 07:41 PM
66

100%. Being in a happy long-term relationship (with my fair share of party years behind me), I would never go on that kind of vacation without my S.O. along with me. Imo, that's not a healthy dynamic.
/r/MensRights09/03/23 07:38 PM
54

As always, all you have to do is reverse the genders and see how it sounds.
/r/MensRights09/03/23 07:36 PM
44

That was my immediate thought when I read that line. Their framing is so blatantly agenda/narrative driven that it's almost funny.
/r/MensRights09/03/23 01:31 PM
1

Fair, same concept applies though.
/r/MensRights06/03/23 10:40 AM
6

Assuming that includes in nursing, education, etc?
/r/MensRights05/03/23 05:01 PM
2

I think you may have responded to the wrong comment.
/r/MensRights05/03/23 02:39 PM
8

OP's point is that they only programmed the AI to give that disclaimer before listing off a wife's responsibilities. Obviously, if it had done that before listing a husband's duties as well, there would be no issue.
/r/MensRights05/03/23 11:59 AM
5

The important thing is to not be reactive NPC types like them; aka police our own, call out extremists twisting the movement, and strive to be objective.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 04:16 AM
49

Hey, she revealed that she's a sexist asshole up-front, better than finding out years later when she's pregnant with your kid!
/r/MensRights03/03/23 02:06 AM
2

Do what you'd like to think you would've done in the Jim Crow days, if you swap out "men" for "black people".
/r/MensRights03/03/23 02:03 AM
23

These idiots are so sex-obsessed, it's pathetic. Yeah, sex is great and all, sure. But it's also ONE aspect of your life, and absolutely should not be your entire persona.
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:13 AM
8

I think this is the biggest point to be made here. It would be like a husband wanting a motorcycle that his wife doesn't care for, then the husband being upset that he has to do all the maintenance and repairs on it himself. Like...duh?
/r/MensRights28/02/23 10:41 AM
5

That friend of OP'S is: -Protecting And/or: -Showing they're a poor judge of character
/r/MensRights26/02/23 02:54 PM
165

Because it's easier to take, than it is to create.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 11:41 AM
5

Yup....these days almost any accusation of racism can be defeated just by asking the accuser to explain how the thing was racist.
/r/MensRights23/02/23 10:16 PM
6

It's not exactly paranoia when it's actually happened to you, and happens to people all the time.
/r/MensRights21/02/23 12:28 PM
3

Well, it's a dishonest way to argue, which is a reflection not of "the movement", but of the person you're talking to being dishonest.
/r/MensRights18/02/23 12:13 AM
3

Ok bud.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 11:12 PM
2

100% ^^^ Feminists just lie about what they claim they mean by it.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 11:11 PM
5

You are simply wrong. Words only have meaning BECAUSE of consistent usage. Once they stop being used consistently, like in this case, they lose meaning and are useless.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 09:59 PM
5

The label itself isn't useful, since there is not consistent usage.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 09:45 PM
4

This isn't helping anyone "understand" anything. This is just giving your opinion on what you think those terms mean, which is very much at odds with what lots of other people think those terms mean.
/r/MensRights17/02/23 08:44 PM
2

100%, who gives a shit what a thing is called...the important part is what it IS. A rose by any other name...
/r/MensRights16/02/23 10:53 PM
6

The point is, if a literal one-time touch on the shoulder (with no further pursuing) is considered such a serious societal offense that's it's worth firing an employee, the standard set means it is effectively impossible to make interest known without doing something extremely offensive.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 09:50 PM
21

As always, reverse the genders and see how it sounds.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:25 PM
6

It's possible bullying wasn't a noteworthy issue where that person lives, or at that school... you don't have to be a dick for no reason lol.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 06:34 PM
1

Gotcha. Yeah I think it's a combination of biology and social conditioning, most likely. At the same time, idk why it'd be surprising either way...men historically have needed to be tougher and more resilient against externalities to survive.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 11:46 PM
3

Asserting there's no evidence doesn't mean there's no evidence. There are innumerable thing that are different, on average, between men and women. Lots of them are due to biological reasons, lots are due to social conditioning, and lots are a mix of both. How have you ruled biological difference completely out of the equation as a potential answer?
/r/MensRights07/02/23 07:54 PM
3

I didn't make that claim. I questioned the assertion that it was caused due to social conditioning. Burden of proof is on the person making the claim.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 07:53 PM
3

How does any of what you said prove it isn't a biological cause?
/r/MensRights07/02/23 07:05 PM
3

I'm asking why it's assumed that womens' aversion to men crying is a result of social conditioning, as opposed to potentially having a biological root cause.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 06:20 PM
5

I'm trying to understand why he assumed women doing that is due to social conditioning.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 05:40 PM
11

> despite what women say, they’ve been conditioned by society Why do you assume this is a matter of nurture, and not nature?
/r/MensRights07/02/23 12:06 PM
1

No, I really just don't give a shit.
/r/MensRights04/02/23 07:48 PM
5

Even if it WERE true that a primary cause of men doing most mass shootings is their inability to get laid...would that even be so odd? Sex/procreation is one of the most basic things humans evolved to do. The humans who didn't have a serious urge to procreate didn't pass on their genetics. Natural selection means the remaining humans have an inherent internal mandate to procreate. So let's assume it's true that many people who are unable to get laid end up committing school shootings; well, obvi…
/r/MensRights02/02/23 02:12 AM
78

Sounds egregious as hell. I hope he gets a massive lawsuit win against Google.
/r/MensRights29/01/23 12:02 AM
2

I hear you lmao
/r/MensRights24/01/23 10:30 PM
1

I'm all good. If you don't feel like justifying your statements, I don't feel like going all Sherlock Holmes on them.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 10:29 PM
1

>Conservation of Natural Resources, Reduction of Pollution Maybe, maybe not. The more people you have, and the more specialization in job roles (which happens increasingly as we solve one tech hurdle after another), the more ability we have as a species to problem solve and develop solutions that would be impossible with smaller populations (obviously this scales). So the next (inevitable) question is, around what number do you think the human population should be?
/r/MensRights24/01/23 08:01 PM
1

What does that have to do with your claim that people here are upset that women give birth?
/r/MensRights24/01/23 07:56 PM
2

I was asking why that commenter thinks less people is better.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 07:53 PM
4

Where are you seeing people upset about the fact that women give birth?
/r/MensRights24/01/23 05:26 PM
9

People who don't want to procreate remove themselves from the gene pool. All that's left are the people who are interested in procreation.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 05:24 PM
3

Why do you believe that?
/r/MensRights24/01/23 05:22 PM
1

It's simple...because they have unfair expectations.
/r/MensRights23/01/23 11:32 PM
11

Considering people on the left widely use "toxic masculinity" to condemn ANY male behavior they don't like, you aren't really in a defensible position.
/r/MensRights22/01/23 02:37 PM
-8

>Branding a person's natural born identity ​ No, no, no. This kind is absolutely begging to be used by leftists who continue shoving more things under the umbrella of the term "identity". ​ Let's say a person's identity is that they are an angry Irishman, and their anger issues have caused physical or emotional to hurt people around them. If we allow things like personalities to be someone's "identity", we can't suggest that the person attend therapy or see a psychologist for their anger issues,…
/r/MensRights22/01/23 02:35 PM
4

Lmao I love a good word salad in the afternoon.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 09:15 PM
14

Interesting? Lmao I'd be shocked if they kicked her out in today's political climate.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 04:12 PM
8

SO MUCH this. I'm a father, and I love that. But that is absolutely not the only thing I am. Variety is the spice of life. Granted, for people with unsupportive selfish partners, breaking out of that sole role is going to be met with resistance. But if we do nothing, we get nothing!
/r/MensRights19/01/23 07:17 PM
6

And myself being a man, who has been sexually assaulted multiple times (all by women)....them trying to make it a gendered problem is plain stupid, or evil.
/r/MensRights18/01/23 05:19 PM
3

All the conservatives I know would!
/r/MensRights15/01/23 11:21 PM
6

presents crime stats lolol
/r/MensRights15/01/23 11:21 PM
22

Now erase the genders, and make it about a black jogger and a white person pepper spraying them. Could you even fucking imagine how racist the left would say that is?
/r/MensRights15/01/23 08:24 PM
2

In other news, the sky is blue.
/r/MensRights14/01/23 03:35 PM
5

I'd ask them for proof.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 11:34 PM
2

If they truly believe diversity automatically = better, they should show, not tell.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 08:28 PM
2

I think most centrists and conservatives knew that was the inevitable next step of fact checks. First, they typically fact checked things that actually needed fact checking. That way, they can build rapport with much of the public since when they dig into any given fact check for themselves, it turns up to be at least generally a fair correction/valid point. Once gaining that general default trust (where over time, less and less people bother so much as clicking on the fact check link, and they …
/r/MensRights01/01/23 02:02 PM
8

>there is no reports of this in any of the mainstream, credible media. You think a thing didn't happen if mainstream media didn't report on it. Holy cow. FYI, if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it, it actually still does make a noise. It's a silly rhetorical question, not a riddle.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 01:57 PM
1

So then you think that if we took a random sample of childless men and women between let's say, 20-30 years old, both groups would work roughly the same length of hours and types of shifts?
/r/MensRights31/12/22 02:58 PM
2

I definitely get that; interactions with straight-up mean people become exhausting. I'd just recommend you use your best judgment in striking a balance; those uncomfortable, annoying interactions can sometimes be used as learning opportunities. It's good to keep some level of discomfort in our lives for the benefit of our perspective and development, but there's a tipping point beyond which you don't get much benefit from those interactions, or it negatively affects you enough to offset the bene…
/r/MensRights31/12/22 12:45 PM
1

>Right but a vast majority of men do not speak up Why do you believe this to be the case?
/r/MensRights31/12/22 12:40 PM
3

My general advice is to use this as a chance to dig into the "why" of things; to understand why she believes what she believes, and then play with the principle she presents to see if she is logically consistent about it. ​ So like you touched on, you asked if she would feel the same way about a man saying the opposite thing. I would really press her on that next time this comes up, since that will likely be a big tell as to her reasoning and can be used to explore the matter further. But if she…
/r/MensRights30/12/22 12:42 PM
4

But you never know when planting a seed of sensibility might take hold, or what you yourself might learn from finding a good way to explain how their reasoning is flawed.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 12:38 PM
3

That's depends on things like the argument being made, the person making it, etc.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 12:36 PM
8

I don't say things like that, and I don't associate with people who do. If your friends say sexist things, you should probably speak up.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 12:35 PM
1

I think you misunderstood what I was saying.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 07:07 PM
2

I had better parents than most, maybe.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 03:57 PM
2

Amazing how much of a difference this makes. I've been in my fair share of relationships, and I can safely say that only about 1/3 of the women I've been with held true to this.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 03:19 PM
18

You completely ignored his completely valid rebuttal. Bad faith on your part.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 12:18 PM
37

Functioning as intended.
/r/MensRights27/12/22 12:14 PM
90

The same people who think this is a fun little thought experiment would freak out at a man proposing the opposite (and men saying equally stereotypical things like "enjoy some damn peace and quiet without being nagged and bossed around").
/r/MensRights27/12/22 01:56 AM
2

It depends, really. My mom and dad both worked their asses off raising us (I'm from a large family), and 95% or more conform to stereotypical gender roles. They're still happily married all these decades later, and I promise you that my mother worked every bit as hard being a stay-at-home-mom as my father did, working a run-of-the mill desk job. But I'm fully aware that VERY few women these days are nowhere near as baller as my mom, or have a fraction of the work ethic that she does. Same goes f…
/r/MensRights25/12/22 02:31 PM
1

Precisely, you won't find those stupid narratives coming from happily married couples. Only bitter people who pick terrible partners do this shit.
/r/MensRights25/12/22 02:27 PM
5

Masculinity IS positive, in so many ways. Obviously there are negative aspects to testosterone too, but the problem is with how many people are dead-set on only acknowledging the cons of it while refusing to see the pros.
/r/MensRights25/12/22 12:52 PM
1

I agree with your general point, but as far as I know, the "mike pence rule" is about not dining alone with a woman unless his wife is present, and also to not attend social events that have alcohol unless she is present.
/r/MensRights25/12/22 12:49 PM
5

That's like saying that someone is projecting because they concealed carry a gun when they walk home from work through a high-crime neighborhood.
/r/MensRights25/12/22 12:44 PM
1

As long as you can honestly say they you'd explain the thing the same way to a man (all else being equal), that's a clear indicator they are looking for excuses to call you sexist, and that they're being dishonest.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 05:21 PM
-11

You don't think there's ever a moment where you have down time on the job? Maybe it's fair game to criticize something like how her hi vis uniform looks REALLY damn clean, but the fact she took a picture of herself in a work vehicle? Calm your tits man.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 12:16 AM
1

Yeah, and it's not even that complicated, so you know a lot of people have to be deliberately not considering it. If around 2-10% of sexual assault accusations are proven false in court, and around 2-10% are proven true in court, the middle 80-96ish%? We don't really know how many of those go which way. Maybe it's 50/50, maybe it's 90/10, maybe it's 30/70. But anybody pretending false claims don't happen often is lying.
/r/MensRights17/12/22 01:30 AM
7

That was my general experience with my ex wife. God I was stupid.
/r/MensRights16/12/22 02:42 PM
9

A person has to be incredibly stupid or dishonest to think these things don't happen to men.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 06:49 PM
9

Yeah that's bullshit, they're effectively saying you're not allowed to poke fun at yourself.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 09:19 PM
13

Simple. On average, it's easier for women to get laid. You don't (shouldn't) get praised for things that are easy.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 02:36 PM
8

Along these lines...I'd say this is one of many things that everyone deals with, and some stupid feminists decided to try and make it a divisive thing for self serving reasons.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 10:52 PM
6

>And I think it should be the same way if a woman asks a man out. ​ Except, oh wait; women initiate asking men out at a rate damned near 0%.
/r/AntiFeminists03/12/22 01:13 AM
3

I went to college for a year (over a decade ago), and while my grades were fine...it just was not for me. I didn't learn much, because classroom learning doesn't do much for me. Worked my way up pretty quickly with a financial institution, starting from an entry level position, and now (working for the same employer) I have a solid mid-level job with great work-life balance, still with no degree. Didn't even have to relegate myself to the trades haha. You'll make it out fine if you keep your nos…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 10:54 PM
3

I was about to be shocked that you agreed (since this is reddit and all), then I remembered it's the mens rights subreddit and it was less surprising lmao.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 07:29 PM
5

The distinction is important though. If you're robbed by a Mexican dude, it's fine to be upset that you were robbed, and it's ok to be angry at the person who stole from you. It still isn't ok to say "I hate Mexicans", though. It's funny how pretty much the ONLY time people defend making negative generalizations in these situations is when the comments are about white people, and/or men.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 06:25 PM
6

Natural =/= good. Also, being angry in no way excuses doing or saying immoral things.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 01:29 PM
13

Part of being a grownup is learning self control, and not to lash out at a group over the actions of an individual. Excusing infantile behavior is exactly the problem. We ought to be a shaming adults when they act like toddlers.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 12:39 PM
11

Would you defend a man fresh out of a relationship saying he wants to kill all women?
/r/MensRights23/11/22 12:30 PM
22

People like that simply don't live their lives based on (what we'd consider) moral principles; they live them based off power moves and manipulation. To them, power = moral standing.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 12:10 PM
18

"generally against blanket statements" Not throwing shade, but using a qualifier in this sentence is funny.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 12:09 PM
7

I get it dude, I was married to a woman that was damned near as evil. Took me too long to see through the facade. I feel for you, and am available to talk if you ever want to.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 11:12 PM
1

People like her are unprincipled swine.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 10:24 PM
1

Don't know.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:14 PM
1

Then why are divorce rates higher for second marriage? Most people don't learn from their mistakes. ​ If the man cannot learn from his first marriage, He can. I did.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:13 PM
13

Yes, though it's even more of a stretch to blame anything but that community...it sure wasn't straight people doing most of the spreading.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 05:03 PM
13

He's not saying it ought to be that way. He's explaining one of the possible explanations for why it is that way. Explaining something =/= defending it.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 10:40 PM
1

The OpenMindedOtter is very much not open minded. Dude's out here looking for a fight.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 10:39 PM
3

> I would’ve only needed to hear the level of discomfort once and would discontinue the line of questioning. This didn’t go over well. ​ When you say it didn't go over well, what do you mean? How did she respond?
/r/MensRights24/10/22 10:35 AM
1

My point was that you can learn to spot the fakes.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 06:56 PM
1

If you learn what subtle signs to look for, pay attention to them, and trust your gut, you can see through the bullshit.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 10:22 AM
1

Naw, all the needles don't look the same once you learn what traits to look for.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 12:55 AM
1

That's why it's so important to pay attention to your partner's upbringing; most apples don't fall far from the tree. My ex-wife? Yeah that should've been a dead giveaway to younger, dumber me, the fact that her parents had split and got back together multiple times, and co-existed miserably. But my current partner, her parents are happily married for decades, and their family has a close relationship, the same primary values as I do, good work ethic, refuses to accept victim status, etc. Conser…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 11:43 AM
0

Yeah, you'll notice that women's partner-seeking impulses (largely driven by wealth and social standing when looking for a partner) are generally socially accepted and defended. When a woman says she wants to find a man with a solid career (a provider), nobody bats an eye. But if a man says he wants to find a physically attractive woman (a healthy person who is more likely to be capable of having children without undue risk to herself), he's considered a shallow asshole by these kinds of people.…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 10:09 AM
3

Sorry to hear your story man, that's tragic. I've been through a nasty divorce myself, along with the child custody battles. I know the pain all too well.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 10:04 AM
1

Hey, you're free to have your opinion.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 10:02 AM
6

Neither of us lives at the mercy of the other. We are a team.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 02:22 AM
1

>However, I find it somewhat insulting to imply that men are incapable of doing their job if a woman is near them wearing tight clothing. It's basically saying we're animals who can't control our raging dicks when we see something we want to fuck. ​ No, it's acknowledging that biology is a scientific, real thing that we would be stupid to not account for.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 02:19 AM
14

Happier...sure, if the alternative is being with a bad woman. Trust me, I would know. But with a great woman, like the one I'm with these days? Even happier than when I'm single. And easier isn't always better.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 02:00 AM
1

I disagree; the societal value placed on having a college degree (for non-specialized trades that are less compatible with learning it on-the-job) has diminished over the last decade or so. I expect that pattern will continue, as it becomes increasingly apparent that a college degree is not a good indicator of performance.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:38 PM
3

I expect it won't matter though; eventually society will be forced to accept that college is NOT a primary indicator of success, as more and more men without college degrees become successful.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 11:56 AM
2

Well we know there's been all SORTS of murders sparked by women complimenting men 😂
/r/MensRights16/10/22 11:52 AM
5

The moment I can get a coherent, internally consistent description of what it means to "demy someone else's identity", I'll be shocked.
/r/MensRights13/10/22 08:06 PM
2

This is such an old scam. Block, ignore, continue life.
/r/MensRights13/10/22 02:19 AM
8

100%. Far too many people have a dysfunctional inner compass, and care more about trends than principles.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 09:52 AM
12

Seeing phrases like "the cops and prosecutors decided she had suffered enough" is so insanely frustrating in this context, where she was the one who caused the suffering. Legal system acting as if she is a victim, when she actively incited the nearest man to violence with her lies. If that isn't a picture-perfect case of toxic femininity (manipulating a man into violence), I don't know what is.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 09:51 AM
7

That's just it...for a certain set of people, following the law is almost entirely contingent on how consistent enforcement of the law is. If perjury isn't consistently prosecuted, they see committing perjury as a low-risk behavior and are more likely to do it, if they think it benefits them.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 09:49 AM
2

I love how it then talks about him buying her drinks, and paying for their food. Wait a sec, what the hell happened to equality? She has no principles whatsoever.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 11:13 AM
14

Umm no, that's not fraudulent. I work in fraud, and that isn't how that works at all with transfer services.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 11:12 AM
12

UK: You can't look at women if they don't want you to look at them. English men: How can I tell if a woman wants me to look at them? UK: If she didn't want you to look at her, she'll have you put in jail. English men: Ehh, maybe I'll just live a peaceful life with a dog instead of pursuing women. Not worth the risk. UK: Incel! Where have all the good men gone!??
/r/MensRights02/10/22 10:47 AM
8

LOL, that's a great connection. When you break things down to the principles people are espousing (they usually don't even realize it themselves), you end up with hilarious contradictions like this. It's a funny/sad game.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 10:45 AM
1

Bobby, is that you?
/r/MensRights02/10/22 10:43 AM
14

They don't complain about them, but they sure as hell try to use men's problems as evidence of toxic masculinity or whatever stupid buzz-phrase is popular at the time lmao.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 10:41 AM
2

A few times, for sure. Couldn't give a damn; anybody calling me that has terribly failed the truth test, so I can safely disregard their opinion as not worth my time. ​ If anything, you're doing yourself a favor by letting them see you're subbed here; you can more easily weed out people who aren't worth giving a moment of consideration.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 10:39 AM
1

>I think it is dysfunctional coping behaviour that men do ​ Why do you think it's dysfunctional?
/r/MensRights02/10/22 10:10 AM
2

Pretty sure by "funny", they mean "absurd/insane".
/r/MensRights01/10/22 12:21 PM
1

Because they are evil, power-hungry scumbags without moral principles. The only thing guiding their actions is power.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 12:21 PM
2

I've been arguing for a while now that in the vast majority of cases, government-mandated child support should not exist. In cases where one parent made a significant sacrifice to their earnings ability (for instance, a woman who has been a stay-at-home mom for their 2 children for a decade, supporting her husband's efforts to climb the career ladder and allowing him to make big bucks) for the sake of raising their children, ok you've clearly got a solid argument for why he should pay child supp…
/r/MensRights01/10/22 11:49 AM
2

I think we can VERY safely assume that AOC used gender-neutral wording as a matter of virtue signaling, and was not advocating for abolishing child support or giving men the option of opting out of financial responsibility for their children. If anybody thinks differently, I would love to hear their argument.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 11:42 AM
2

As long as you are consistent one way or the other, there's no problem. Either men and women both made the commitment to be responsible for a baby when they have sex, or neither of them did. The end.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 11:40 AM
2

Many people (like AOC) do not make decisions based on moral principles; they do so based on power, and whatever they think will increase their power/control. Once you understand that, it all makes sense. They literally do not have morals.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 11:38 AM
0

"it's because of biology, even women are brainwashed to react this way towards emotional men" Fixed.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 10:12 AM
1

Oh I must've missed it. Sad.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 02:44 AM
2

I think it's mainly because when people are scared, in-group preferences can be amplified. They turtle up. Been watching JP for a few years now, and he has a lot of great insights, especially within his realm of expertise!
/r/MensRights01/10/22 02:43 AM
1

and?
/r/MensRights01/10/22 02:41 AM
2

I certainly hope nobody here thinks all women are like that. Hell, even if most women were overly selfish/needy/whatever, the other women who aren't that way should NEVER be expected to apologize for wrongdoings they didn't do. Just like how men who aren't rapists should never be expected to apologize for men who are. You sound like a good, reasonable human. Like my girlfriend of some years, who I plan to spend the rest of my life with. And unlike my ex-wife ;)
/r/MensRights30/09/22 05:47 PM
2

Don't worry, SadGruffman will be back in here ANY MINUTE NOW to give a logical rebuttal. Any minute...
/r/MensRights30/09/22 05:40 PM
2

Way to make up a bunch of bullshit he never said. I hope you feel tough after destroying that strawman you built.
/r/MensRights30/09/22 05:39 PM
1

I literally work in fraud and personally have worked many cases associated with that exact type of fraud. I'm speaking from a position of professional knowledge. ​ "However, that does not mean Trumpers were the only ones who got it. I did not say that" ​ I never said you said that. What point are you trying to make that you think I disagree on?
/r/MensRights28/09/22 01:09 AM
5

From your own link: "There is no evidence that the small business loan program — authorized by Congress to weather the economic storm of the COVID-19 pandemic — prioritized Trump’s political donors." ​ If there's evidence of Trump supporters getting special exceptions/prioritization for a program like this, then by all means that should be scrutinized. But please don't make baseless claims.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 10:22 AM
1

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 11:17 PM
7

"Until women as a whole stop killing and abusing their infants". I'm sure that would be considered sexist by this person, because when women disproportionately commit certain crimes it's terrible to generalize that behavior to all women. But if it's men....fair game, apparently!
/r/MensRights26/09/22 11:24 AM
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And here's the thing; those types of evil comments can find safe haven on reddit, and sometimes even in public discourse. I dare democrats/leftists, progressives (whatever term is fashionable right now) to find extreme "right-wing" policies getting mainstream republican support...it's quite easy to find mainstream democrat support for a number of left-wing extremist positions, though.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 11:17 AM
20

Are you dense, or malevolent? Books that guide women on how to use evil to advance their personal interests are not remotely about equal rights for women. Where in the USA are people arguing that women should not have equal rights?
/r/MensRights26/09/22 11:13 AM
2

As long as they don't object to the term "toxic femininity" being used to describe harmful behaviors most often associated with women, there's no significant issue. Sorry OP, you come across like Don Quixote battling windmills here.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 02:02 PM
8

The emotionally available point is especially spot-on with my ex wife. It's such a trope, because it's so often true. I'm in a long-term relationship with an amazing, self-aware woman now, and the difference is night and day. In the end, it comes down to the adage to the effect of "Don't pay attention to what women say they want, pay attention to what they do"
/r/MensRights22/09/22 10:00 PM
2

I think you've missed the point OP was making.
/r/MensRights16/09/22 12:07 AM
3

Exactly.
/r/MensRights16/09/22 12:06 AM
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Or just "MaleLivesMatter", since black men, white men, and men of every ethnicity are killed at higher rates than women. And when they inevitably point out "Well yeah but most of those men are being killed by other men", you can point out that most of the black men being killed are being killed by other black men, making that a moot point.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 10:54 AM
2

Maybe you have not considered what responsibility can feel like. You ought to.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 01:46 AM
4

Have you considered that HAVING to make the hard choices may be viewed as a heavy burden, though?
/r/MensRights13/09/22 09:39 PM
1

Lol, if only it wasn't guaranteed to be lost on people like her :D
/r/MensRights13/09/22 05:37 PM
3

Similar to my ex wife, multiple kids with multiple dads...and she's extremely bitter towards men. The classic failure to realize that maybe SHE was the problem, all along. Aka if everywhere you go smells like shit, maybe check your shoe.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 10:26 PM
2

he doesn’t claim to know about women’s lives, but that he never yet met a woman who didn’t think she could read all men like a book. Obviously this is a sweeping generalization, but it is very often true...one of the worst things is someone making decisions based on an important topic they incorrectly think they understand.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 11:14 AM
4

Sadly; people like that OP don't realize that's an indictment of their own lack of ability to empathize...not an indictment of men. If all they see is anger, it's because that's all they're looking for.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 11:10 AM
4

Or, as I said, maybe he had valid reasons for allowing respect to take a back seat.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 12:48 AM
1

Well, evidently he thought that these were such situations; maybe he has valid reasons for thinking so.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 12:43 AM
4

Do you think there are situations where values other than respect should have higher priority?
/r/MensRights04/09/22 12:31 AM
2

Could explain why you believe those flew in the face of what he claimed to be all about?
/r/MensRights04/09/22 12:05 AM
1

That's not what I was saying, actually. I was saying that when you put forth a principle as justification for a stance, if it can be easily shown that you actually dont believe in that principle generally, you ought to change your stance (or cite another reason/principle).
/r/MensRights01/09/22 07:02 PM
1

It isn't some philosophy from him. Just guidelines for having productive interactions.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 06:28 PM
1

Good stepping stones for having a rational thought process.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 06:10 PM
1

Gotcha. I guess I assumed all that would be on the table too, valid points on your end.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 06:09 PM
1

If you dont believe in a principle, don't say it. If you believe in a principle with noteworthy exceptions, be prepared to explain and defend those exceptions.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 05:56 PM
2

You stated a principle. I'm explaining why you clearly don't actually believe in that principle. If you dont like having that pointed out that's on you, not me. Your anger is mis-directed.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 05:43 PM
1

Yes, but what we're discussing here are potentially better systems than the current one.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 05:42 PM
2

Yeah, something to that effect would be very simple I think (relatively speaking, of course).
/r/MensRights01/09/22 05:40 PM
2

You don't think you should ever be able to decide what a person does with their body?
/r/MensRights01/09/22 05:39 PM
0

but it's your body so i can't really be against choosing what to do with your own body. You don't actually believe that though, do you?
/r/MensRights01/09/22 04:40 PM
5

Trying to pin it down to when he knew isn't reliable because it gets into he said, she said territory I very much disagree. You treat it like every other case, where she would need to be able to provide evidence. If there's no evidence he was made aware, case closed, he isn't responsible.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 04:38 PM
1

Maybe you could have somehow where the man has one month (or something similar) after he is made aware she is pregnant, to decide if he wants to participate/accept responsibility.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 04:37 PM
1

I can appreciate that angle, and agree as a principle. Having said that, when another movement is espousing rhetoric actively opposing equality (in this case, insinuating that not all men are valuable, and/or that even the most horrible women are valuable), it is fair game to point out how terrible and anti-equality that sentiment is.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 08:14 PM
2

No, OP is just pointing out the stupidity of the original statement. If pointing out why a stupid statement is a "gatcha", then I guess we need to keep up with gatcha moments since they're important.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 04:58 PM
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Could you imagine the absolute tantrum they'd throw over a man citing a single anecdote of a woman doing something bad, and concluding that all women have that same deficiency? They are the sexist, over-generalizing assholes that they claim to hate.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 03:52 PM
1

Because society generally assumes that men are tough enough that things like this don't impact them much, and that women are too fragile for us to allow those same actions against them without harsh retribution. Clear evidence that we are biased towards women, to the point that we give them special protections which are not afforded to men.
/r/MensRights28/08/22 12:04 PM
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Someone can be right about most observations, and wrong about some. Doesn't make their perceptive observations any less valid.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 11:48 AM
2

Not just more likely....exponentially more likely.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 02:17 PM
3

Sounds like you've got a good head on your shoulders with solid self awareness and a strong spine. Commendable.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 06:16 PM
6

You will always see them tell if the girl is jobless and doesn't contribute, they have to be housewives and take care of the house but you will never hear it the other way round What are you even trying to claim here? That nobody on men's rights would be ok with being a stay at home husband?
/r/MensRights10/07/22 09:47 AM
2

Useless, leaching wastes of oxygen is what people like her are. All because we cater to women while having no empathy for suffering men (as an overall society, not every single person of course).
/r/MensRights08/07/22 10:55 PM
9

Guess ya haven't heard about people who aren't even the father (proven with paternity test) being forced to pay child support, and the same happening to boys who were raped by women?
/r/MensRights08/07/22 10:34 PM
14

Umm welp...that's not gonna stand up to much scrutiny.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 11:07 AM
4

Source?
/r/MensRights05/07/22 11:05 AM
7

They were voted in because they pander to their zombie constituents.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 10:32 PM
19

You are entirely missing the point, that no man doing this to a woman would get away with it without being arrested for assaulting the woman.
/r/MensRights28/05/22 12:31 PM
2

Excuse me...I thought feminism was about equal rights for all? Isn't that PRECISELY what they've been saying ad naseum?
/r/MensRights29/04/22 12:45 AM
4

When feminists stop doing things like fighting to keep men's DV shelters from opening, pushing movements like #Metoo FAR beyond anything remotely reasonable, and pushing their debunked wage narrative, maybe that's possible. Until then, they'll continue to be treated as the wolf in sheep's clothing that they are.
/r/MensRights30/03/22 06:59 PM
36

What do you mean, she obviously brings LOOKS to the relationship! Isn't that all she should have to bring to the table? Lol.
/r/MensRights01/03/22 11:31 PM
2

I like this idea....because it's simple, honest, and uses their own tools against them.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 03:39 PM
1

Based on what principle?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:06 PM
3

Have you considered that the downvotes may be due to that person's line of thinking lacking practicality?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 12:06 PM
3

The political right certainly not perfect in that regard...but the complete lack of consistent principles from the left is ridiculous, and sad. It's all short-term, emotionally-based, selfish thinking.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 08:05 PM
9

Also, interacting with men/other humans is a mandatory part of life; eating cake is not. A better analogy would be to simply swap out "cake" for "food".
/r/MensRights25/01/22 07:30 PM
5

I wouldn't hold my breath expecting them to actually address the argument....
/r/MensRights25/01/22 07:27 PM
5

You think that someone is being a victim of sexual assault should give them immunity to downvotes? What an odd concept.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 07:21 PM
17

So you have no objections to someone who is fearful of all black men and shames them as a group, since that demographic commits a disproportionate amount of crimes?
/r/MensRights25/01/22 07:18 PM
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Honestly, it sounds like they're both pretty sleazy.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 02:24 PM
3

That was the kind of garbage my ex-wife pulled all the time. She is utter scum; I'm currently in a fantastic relationship with a great woman, and it only makes the shittiness of my ex that much more apparent every day. It's depressing to think how many short-sighted, selfish assholes are walking around, trying to convince the world of their perpetual victim status, while doing exactly what they accuse others of doing.
/r/MensRights07/01/22 11:28 PM
1

Even if that were the number, that's a deeply disturbing amount of false rape accusations.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 05:37 PM
2

That too! Whether or not it's fair to categorize someone's reservedness as "toxic" is really all based on the degree, but that's a big part that didn't really sit right with me; categorizing the reaction of a victim as "toxic" comes across as all victim-blamey.
/r/MensRights27/12/21 05:28 PM
7

Ohh I misunderstood you, my bad. So yes, you could definitely make that case. ​ Though to be fair, I'm not sure I would define the stereotype of men being more emotionally closed off as "toxic"; just because men aren't the same as women in that regard (on average), it doesn't automatically make it a net negative trait. Pros and cons.
/r/MensRights27/12/21 05:21 PM
9

I really just don't get where any type of masculinity has anything to do with this woman's actions; She pulled an emotional bait-and-switch, simple as that.
/r/MensRights27/12/21 05:13 PM
13

What this woman did (Telling a man it is safe for him to open up about his feelings, then being disgusted when he does it) is behavior virtually exclusive to women, making it toxic femininity.
/r/MensRights27/12/21 02:22 PM
18

The thing is, what that woman is doing has nothing to do with masculinity; she's simply being an insensitive asshole.
/r/MensRights27/12/21 01:49 PM
4

If you married a selfish bitch of an NPC, I suppose.
/r/MensRights24/12/21 09:15 PM
11

Why do you say that?
/r/MensRights16/12/21 01:50 AM
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"Our rule1 protects groups that are attacked based on a vulnerability, which doesn't pertain to white people or men as a group" ​ Oh god I would just love to know what qualifies as "a vulnerability". ​ Does dying more on the job count as a vulnerability? Does constituting most of the prison population count as a vulnerability? Do family courts taking a default stance against you for child custody cases count as a vulnerability? Does the empathy gap (on stark display here, ironically) count as a …
/r/MensRights13/12/21 10:05 PM
99

The narcissism is so fucking real...imagine being so stupid and selfish as to think having your being grabbed for a moment compared in ANY way to being raped. Seriously sickening stuff from OP's SO.
/r/MensRights20/09/21 10:53 PM
16

Your gf has just about zero empathy for men; what do you think is going to happen when times get tough? You truly believe she'll turn over a new leaf one day and give a damn about you? The only thing in my life that's a consistent source of stress is my feminist ex-wife, since we had a son (my current gf is amazing and very sensible)...dont make my mistake.
/r/MensRights20/09/21 10:47 PM
1

I won't hold my breath :)
/r/MensRights11/09/21 09:05 PM
1

Get back to me when it happens.
/r/MensRights11/09/21 07:01 PM
1

You should tell women that.
/r/MensRights11/09/21 04:18 PM
2

Do you literally believe there are women capable of playing as NFL runningbacks (competitively, not as some sort of diversity hire BS)?
/r/MensRights11/09/21 03:43 PM
1

Lol. You do realize women are allowed in the NFL right?
/r/MensRights11/09/21 03:20 PM
2

Never said men are born bodybuilders, that's a complete strawman. Find a woman who is an NFL runningback, andvwe can talk. Otherwise, there's clearly no point in further discussing this with you since you insist on arguing in bad faith and making blatantly false statements. Enjoy your weekend.
/r/MensRights11/09/21 02:44 PM
2

Depending on the specific job, sometimes, yes. There are some jobs (such as construction oriented positions) that most men can perform adequately without ever setting foot in a gym or paying attention to diet, where most women could not perform adequately without doing so. There are some jobs that essentially no women can do, regardless of the amount of effort they put in (NFL runningback). And there are many jobs that the average woman CAN do without special physical training, but it will have …
/r/MensRights11/09/21 02:22 PM
3

I'm 100% inclined to agree, in part due to my time in the military.
/r/MensRights11/09/21 02:04 PM
2

Many women absolutely cannot though, or cannot without an extremely large amount of their time being dedicated to their physical fitness (far more so than would be required of the average male). It's ok to acknowledge biological differences.
/r/MensRights11/09/21 02:03 PM
2

I'm not trying to be rude here, but if your needless aggression online is any indicator of your demeanor in real life, it's not hard to imagine why you ended up in jail.
/r/MensRights06/09/21 11:43 PM
0

Hahaha I take that as a "no", then.
/r/MensRights06/09/21 10:40 PM
3

You owned a house and tricked a significant other into paying rent under the pretense of not owning it?
/r/MensRights06/09/21 10:34 PM
9

Buddy...you are making some absurd blanket statements betraying a wealth of ignorance about how much the details of a situation matter. Calm your tits.
/r/MensRights06/09/21 10:18 PM
6

Lol at "most men do not possess inherent value"...nobody does, sweetheart. Value is earned and worked for, not magically imbued.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 07:21 PM
9

Well ya know, she started it. I don't take my frustrations at people like her out on other women, and likewise, even if she was wronged by other men in the past it gives her no right to wrong other males.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 11:49 PM
6

Yo that's terrifying, the mere accusation of impropriety could've ruined your career, and so much worse when it's a situation you were forced into.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 10:52 PM
37

Honestly that's an amazing revenge story...and it's great the girls caught on to how insulting that was towards them as well!
/r/MensRights10/08/21 10:43 PM
10

Ah yes, the classic double standard in poster form...I remember question this specific poster during our sexual assault training in the military, and asking why only the woman couldn't consent. The trainer backpedaled and gave a vague BS answer about how it depends on intoxication levels, etc.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 07:09 PM
2

There is a huge legal distinction though. I'm not meaning to be pedantic, but stuff like that is extremely important.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 10:28 PM
4

I agree that drunk hookups are a bad idea, but that isn't what you said. The law in most states is that you cannot consent to sex if you are incapacitated. That is far beyond having a few drinks, and generally is interpreted to mean more or less blackout drunk.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 07:12 PM
3

So if two people have a few drinks each then have sex, who was raped?
/r/MensRights09/07/21 07:01 PM
12

2-10% of such claims are legally found to be false. Which is approximately the same percentage found to be true in a court of law. Now I'm not saying that means we should assume that roughly half of all rape claims are false; however, the idea that only 2% are actually false is absurd to me.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 10:24 PM
4

I would argue the bigger issue is when a mainstream movement fails to sufficiently distinguish themselves from their radical participants.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 11:09 PM
2

The world makes a lot more sense if you understand that many people's opinions are NOT informed by facts, the Socratic method, etc...but rather by feelings alone. ​ These kinds of people can be presented almost unlimited evidence that their belief is wrong, but it typically makes no difference. They've decided how the world works based off their feelings, then they reverse-engineer why their feelings must be true. ​ So this person is 100% convinced that "The Patriarchy" is the source of all our …
/r/MensRights09/05/21 12:24 PM
-4

If he didn't sexually assault him, and she was going around claiming he did, then yes that ought to absolutely be grounds for defamation charges, and if she's found guilty I hope for a hell of a harsh penalty. ​ BUT. ​ That is not what the poster I responded to said. He said: > It needs to be illegal for women to tell people they were sexually assaulted until there is a conviction. ​ That is absolutely insane.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 12:19 AM
3

I'm all on board with harshly prosecuting people who commit perjury in making false claims, but surely you can't be serious in thinking that people should not be allowed...freedom of speech?
/r/MensRights09/04/21 09:42 PM
3

There's nothing more hilarious than being in a happy, sex filled relationship and getting called an incel.
/r/MensRights02/04/21 02:28 AM
1

It's all just a selfish, immature, irresponsible post. ​ On the one hand, yes, most men are NOT predatory. ​ On the other hand, that doesn't mean women should give no thought to their safety. Same goes for men. ​ Most people aren't thieves. However, I still lock my doors at night or when I'm not home...if I get my house robbed because I left the door unlocked and wide open, with no cars in the driveway...it doesn't mean I'm RESPONSIBLE for my stuff getting stolen. But anyone with common sense ca…
/r/MensRights31/03/21 12:43 AM
6

Well men generally are the ones putting themselves out there, both in good and bad ways. As a demographic we tend to help the helpless the most, commit the most violent crimes, build and innovate the most, as well as destroying things. Men are the risk takers on both ends of the morality spectrum. It's just how it is, the good and bad are a package deal.
/r/MensRights20/03/21 02:47 PM
3

Turns out that being judged as a good person based on character alone actually requires hard work and stuff...
/r/MensRights20/03/21 02:38 PM
6

All valid points. And of course most significantly of all...I know I've never raped anybody and never will. So idgaf what anyone else who happens to share the same genitals as me has done...I didn't do those things, and anyone who wants to stereotype me based on actions I never did can fuck right off. Feel like these same types also probably stereotype black women as angry and loud, Hispanics as lazy, etc. Buncha ignorant assholes.
/r/MensRights20/03/21 02:05 PM
6

I've often said semi-seriously that I'd be a great house husband...but the conversation always turns to how negatively the public views that idea, since of course the stereotypical expectation is for the man to be the provider.
/r/MensRights20/03/21 01:12 PM
3

Exactly...they assume everyone convicted was guilty (granted, I expect the vast majority probably are), and furthermore that everyone who was not convicted or not reported was also guilty, but got away with it.
/r/MensRights20/03/21 12:54 PM
14

Maybe you're just giving them the full benefit of the doubt to show them that even by their own claimed stats they are way off... But if 6% of men accused of rape are convicted...why are we assuming the remaining 94% are also all rapists, who got away with it? For all we know, half of those 94% rape accusations that DON'T result in convictions could be false claims, for instance.
/r/MensRights20/03/21 12:35 PM
2

100%, it's screwed up no matter how you take it.
/r/MensRights18/03/21 10:29 PM
3

These are not the thoughts of introspective people, y'know?
/r/MensRights18/03/21 10:20 PM
9

We wouldn't have time for much else, would we?
/r/MensRights18/03/21 10:20 PM
31

It's also hilarious/fucked how they're insinuating a man's only value is...in his ability to get women. Could you imagine the outrage if that were reversed?
/r/MensRights18/03/21 08:32 PM
1

Yeah I'd still have to disagree...I don't believe that fits "intent to kill" so much as her trying to not get caught. Again, obviously disgusting and I'm assuming that part would have its own crime attached...but not murder.
/r/MensRights06/03/21 11:58 AM
18

Pretty sure we're both right, depending on the specifics aka state, circumstances, etc. You might be more right though haha: https://definitions.uslegal.com/n/negligent-homicide/#:~:text=Negligent%20homicide%20is%20the%20killing%20of%20another%20person,includes%20the%20operation%20of%20a%20boat%20or%20snowmobile.
/r/MensRights05/03/21 08:37 PM
6

I posted roughly the same thing in response to another comment calling this murder, before I read this. It's horrific and she is a scumbag, sure, but I don't see how this would qualify as murder.
/r/MensRights05/03/21 08:01 PM
34

I agree the sentence was too lenient, but this wasn't murder. Murder implies you intended to kill the person. Pretty sure something like negligent homicide is more fitting here, since it was a car accident where she fled the scene of the crime. Still an absurdly light sentence.
/r/MensRights05/03/21 07:59 PM
1

Damn, this is better than the response I was going to make. Great thoughts friend.
/r/MensRights11/02/21 09:41 PM
6

Since when the fuck is being respected a right? How would that even hypothetically work?
/r/MensRights06/01/21 11:22 PM
1

Now do it again, but with black people. Pretty fucking racist, huh?
/r/MensRights21/08/20 07:52 PM
9

I agree that's the cause, but as I said, principles should matter.
/r/MensRights20/08/20 03:00 PM
53

It's not about the subreddit, it's about the principle. Reddit is obviously not enforcing supposed "policies" in a balanced way, that's what I think everyone here is having a problem with.
/r/MensRights20/08/20 01:00 PM
7

This is an absolute non sequitur. All citizens accused of all crimes should get due process, period.
/r/MensRights06/07/20 10:20 PM
20

Get on with their lives and be productive, fulfilled humans? Hell no!
/r/MensRights04/04/20 12:29 PM
68

If anything, the prevalence of faked hate crimes/racism would seem to indicate that things are overall pretty damn NOT racist in this country. Could you imagine a slave in the early 1800's faking a racist incident? Of course not, because nobody would give a shit since racism was way more accepted in society. So by definition, the fact there even ARE fake hate/race crime/whatever you want to call them, is an indicator that as a country, we DO take racism very seriously already.
/r/MensRights04/04/20 11:07 AM
3

Consider using your girlfriend's reaction as a gauge of her character...
/r/MensRights20/03/20 06:36 PM
3

Historically, it's generally been beneficial for women (and their offspring) to make babies with strong, independent men who don't have any glaring weaknesses or vulnerabilities, physically or psychologically. It shouldn't be a surprise that most women are repulsed by men crying. Men are MUCH more likely to want to "rescue" a woman in a hard spot in life, than for the opposite to happen.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 09:11 PM
21

Oh god I cannot agree with this enough. While saying we should strictly be loved for what we PROVIDE isn't good, the idea of unconditional love is absurd to me. We should be loved for what we do, for our good actions. Not because we share DNA with someone, or happen to have been around them a long time.
/r/MensRights03/03/20 09:13 PM
20

Happy for you brother!
/r/MensRights28/02/20 02:14 AM
175

It's a funny twist on when feminists say stuff like "men are scum", and when decent men get angry about it their typical reply is "if you're getting upset about this, it's because you're one of the scummy men". If a woman gets upset about a prenup, that may be a good indicator she's the kind of woman you need a prenup with.
/r/MensRights23/01/20 07:27 PM
16

This also assumes that either the man or woman's feelings about the situation reflect any sort of truth.
/r/MensRights14/01/20 12:00 AM
2

This is just barely an exaggeration of how it was with my ex-wife, towards the end of the marriage I realized what was happening and even called her on it, but she just deflected and denied.
/r/MensRights08/01/20 12:37 PM
4

I wish more people understood this. We all have the right to be as picky as we want in dating preferences, but other people also have the right to refuse to be with you....so if you're too picky, and/or aren't desirable enough yourself to snag someone you find attractive, I don't wanna hear your bitching.
/r/MensRights30/11/19 05:32 PM
30

But if you don't ever initiate WHERE HAVE THE GOOD MEN GONE.
/r/MensRights08/11/19 08:20 PM
10

It's not paranoia if it is firmly grounded in reality...
/r/MensRights24/10/19 06:04 PM
1

That does alter my opinion greatly, with him videotaping himself holding a shovel with her name on it and evidently saying he knows what he has to do...that sounds like a pretty credible threat to me. Thanks for sourcing!
/r/MensRights10/09/19 05:29 PM
21

If that's true that changes the story a lot, where did you see this?
/r/MensRights09/09/19 03:38 AM
32

Honestly, if his wife actually left him because of this situation, I'm inclined to believe he's better off without her anyways. Fair-weather partner.
/r/MensRights09/08/19 11:12 PM
9

That's beautiful to hear, especially given Alice being Steve's boss, that's fucked up.
/r/MensRights05/08/19 11:53 PM
0

So I'm still not seeing anything that actually backs up your claims, merely conjecture.
/r/MensRights06/07/19 10:36 AM
2

For sure. I always laugh when people downvote but can't rebut. It's cute.
/r/MensRights06/07/19 03:43 AM
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As far as I'm aware, the ‘substantially impaired because of a mental or physical condition.’ part refers to physical or mental disability, hence why it's included with advanced age.
/r/MensRights06/07/19 12:00 AM
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Could you find a snippet from Minnesota law backing that up? Not trying to be rude but I can't find anything that indicates solely being drunk keeps someone from giving positive consent. Also, the Ohio blurb you pasted doesn't refer to being drunk in any way.
/r/MensRights05/07/19 07:14 PM
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After a little searching, it doesn't look like that's true. From what I've found it looks like they have roughly the same wording as most states, that if you're incapacitated (typically meaning not conscious) to the point you're not even aware you're having sex, or if you were drugged/etc without your knowledge, then it's rape.
/r/MensRights05/07/19 05:55 PM
3

Both comments have truth. Men take more risks in general, women stay more in the middle in life. Men commit more crimes, create more inventions, steal the most, work the most, men take lives the most and risk their own lives to save the lives of others the most. Men just tend to live life on the edge more, in both good and bad ways.
/r/MensRights18/06/19 04:47 PM
2

Currently thinking about low-key helping my brother to see some MGTOW principles to at least retake some power in his miserable marriage...but yeah he'll never divorce her. I don't even claim to be a MGTOW, i'm actively dating someone and happy with her. But many of the principles here have a lot of truth to them and helped me to draw lines and not compromise in relationships, and have made my life far more content and simple.
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 03:12 PM
4

That was precisely my ex wife....
/r/MGTOW11/06/19 02:56 PM
3

I started out lifting weights as a teen primarily to get girls, fast forward over a decade and i'm still lifting, but not for ladies anymore. It's for mostly the reasons listed in the OP, and it's great for general well being too. You've gotta have SOME form of regular physical exertion in your life.
/r/MGTOW05/06/19 05:38 PM
11

You're not a human to her, with your own thoughts and desires and stressors. You're literally a resource to be drained dude. I was married to a woman like that, I feel your pain. You will feel amazing a few months (or sooner!) after you cut ties, I promise. Also, i'm here if you need to talk to a stranger about anything.
/r/MGTOW29/04/19 08:11 PM
6

Although I have an office job (these days at least, I'm no stranger to blue collar work in my past), I'm inclined to generally agree with your points. Of course there's also a case to be made that if having longer hair makes a man happy, then so be it.
/r/MGTOW23/04/19 12:48 AM
5

My god, yes. My ex wife always wanted new clothes, Starbucks, a newer car, a new phone, etc. It turned what could have been a manageable financial situation into a nightmare, stupid shallow consumerism. If she knew how much money I had saved up now, a few years later.... she'd be livid. Meanwhile, she continues to scrape by month to month.
/r/MGTOW19/04/19 05:17 PM
2

Well evidently, 99-97% won't be so manipulative ;) Obviously this would require another sleeping with the woman, although I'm not sure how that wouldn't be obvious, or how that would be relevant to the topic.
/r/MensRights29/03/19 06:28 PM
3

It's frustrating to see people who don't get the distinction due to selection bias. Having said that, 1-3% is still a LOT of paternity fraud. What's that they say about sexual assault, school shootings, etc..."even one is too many".
/r/MensRights29/03/19 05:35 PM
8

The proper response is "Good, the guilt should destroy you!".
/r/MGTOW01/03/19 05:47 PM
9

They're safe, I used to work on them. It's just when they were newer they had more accidents and failures...that's what happens initially when you innovate.
/r/MGTOW24/01/19 12:34 AM
3

It's generally true. As a guy who has been touched by female coworkers and strangers in inappropriate ways I didn't appreciate, nobody ever recommended I report to my boss/police if I mentioned it to someone. Instead people either just chuckled, said I should be flattered, or were confused why I was complaining. Simply put, society largely views women as incapable of harming others, and men as a collective creepy group.
/r/MensRights03/12/18 02:08 PM
1

I love love love how they deny reality and refuse to call the person they're cheating with by anything other than the acronym "AP".
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 12:23 PM
4

Agree. I mean it is that time of year...was she stupid for not driving around or checking to make sure? Yeah, probably. But this is incompetence it seems, not anything malicious.
/r/MensRights27/10/18 11:25 AM
1

It's cringy when used improperly, sure.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 02:37 AM
12

You're complaining that people are using an insulting word.... properly?
/r/MensRights05/09/18 05:27 PM
1

I don't recall saying they are all the same people.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 11:47 AM
67

This raises so many more problems, I love it. Did they just assume the gender of the people on the board based off their genitals? I thought men and women weren't any different, so why a mandate to have a woman on every board? If someone with a dick says they identify as a woman, therefore the requirement is met, are they permitted to tell the person they aren't a woman because they don't dress or act "feminine" enough? I could go on and on....this is ripe.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 02:42 PM
4

He's arguing in bad faith, I'd recommend not wasting your time.
/r/MensRights29/07/18 11:38 AM
3

A little of both I would say. I mean it's kinda a natural selection thing....women that DIDN'T have the drive to make babies didn't pass down their genetics.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 11:51 AM
1

Was just on that beach a couple weeks ago, such a nice city....and it was lovely being there with no S.O. as well!
/r/MGTOW27/05/18 04:34 AM
7

At that point if I had to pee, I'd just go in whichever of the bathrooms I feel like, and not frequent the store again.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 11:33 PM
1

Good job, keep going! The first time I had over 10k saved I got married soon afterwards, and that shit was gone faster than I could blink. Right now I'm well over 20k saved, no plans of re-marrying, and having that safety net does wonders for peace of mind. Knowing that if my car had a catastrophic failure, I could just buy another one cash. Unexpectedly laid off? I could make it half a year or so before I would have issues. It's great.
/r/MGTOW29/04/18 11:54 AM
1

The racism wasn't what was making the news, the civil rights movement was what was making the news. That's because the racism was commonplace. You could literally point to laws that discriminated against blacks. Now...racism itself is uncommon, and therefore the racism itself is newsworthy.
/r/MensRights25/03/18 09:41 PM
1

How do you figure?
/r/MensRights25/03/18 02:34 PM
2

Obviously the HUGE exception to the norm...hence why I remember years later.
/r/MGTOW24/03/18 01:55 PM
3

Not true....one particular lady comes to mind....she was running on the beach in a 2 piece bikini, looked to be 60ish from the face and gray hair....body literally of an in shape 22 year old. I was so fucking impressed. You know that lady had put in work for decades.
/r/MGTOW24/03/18 01:01 AM
2

Same....literally half the size Reacher should be. Sad.
/r/MGTOW21/03/18 11:36 PM
8

It probably gets so much outrage and attention BECAUSE it's uncommon. If racism was an everyday thing most of us encountered regularly, it wouldn't make big news.
/r/MensRights26/02/18 05:31 PM
10

Haha having said that....guy I used to work with (from the deep south in Georgia or Alabama or something) was told by his parents that he'd better not bring a black girl home (he was sort of seeing a black girl at the time)...but pretty sure shit like that is few and far between...and becoming even more scarce with time.
/r/MensRights26/02/18 05:18 PM
54

Unfortunately the headline "white redneck holds door open for black guy" isn't really considered newsworthy...so you largely just hear about the bad shit. It sucks.
/r/MensRights26/02/18 05:07 PM
28

Tbh I think it's primarily because when women say "I want a man who shows his feeling" and the like...they only want you to have feelings insofar as they agree with them. Kinda like liberals being all about diversity...except the most important kind, diversity of opinion. You must be diverse, JUST LIKE THIS.
/r/MGTOW10/02/18 04:00 PM
1

Yeah, but they know I eat healthy and stuff, so that works well enough for them to keep it no big deal.
/r/MGTOW07/02/18 02:44 AM
3

Shit. Lol thanks :)
/r/MensRights23/01/18 07:37 PM
6

Do you believe that less women in executive positions is inherently a problem, regardless of cause?
/r/MensRights23/01/18 07:23 PM
17

Fewer women in executive positions does not necessarily indicate discrimination. Women have less testosterone. Women choose to take less risks. It would not at all be uncalled for to guess that their aversion to risk taking is why less women are homeless, dying on the job, and CEOs.
/r/MensRights23/01/18 07:20 PM
6

Oh it doesn't really do anything? So why don't we get rid of it, since it's literally useless government spending?
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 09:42 PM
3

Exactly. Child support laws incentive all the wrong behaviors. If we didn't have them, divorced parents would both have more reason to worth harder at life, and less at scavenging what they can from the other person/protecting themselves from the other person. People would have less shitty incentives for wanting child custody, and they might think a little more before having babies in a bad life situation, due to less of a cushion, and we could waste less of judges' time in court over this BS.
/r/MensRights24/12/17 08:06 PM
1

Remember, the act of recording didn't "get you hit". She was an abusive POS who hit you, and used that as an excuse. Being recorded doesn't "make" people hit you ;)
/r/MensRights24/12/17 07:13 PM
3

Holy shit this mirrors my situation all to closely before getting divorced, to the point it's painful to read. Leaving was the best thing I've done in my life.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 01:02 AM
2

Yeah pretty sure the latter is how enforcement will work. Let's be real here.
/r/MensRights20/12/17 12:59 AM
1

True, I suppose there's also not much point in outlawing slavery or domestic violence either. It's so sad that governments will back down from protecting people because religion.
/r/MensRights06/11/17 05:53 PM
1

You're a fan of pure democracy?
/r/MensRights21/10/17 02:40 PM
1

Do you also argue against wearing seat belts because you know a guy who got flung out of a car and survived since he wasn't wearing one?
/r/MensRights15/08/17 10:42 PM
4

What? EDIT: I have no idea how you think your comment relates in any way to what's being discussed. Nobody is saying rapists should be defended, male or female. Furthermore, most female rapists get away too, so do you want to elaborate on your point?
/r/MensRights13/08/17 03:08 PM
32

Can you even IMAGINE the backlash if someone defended a male rapist with this?
/r/MensRights12/08/17 01:05 PM
1

That's...awkward. I don't understand why they'd want to hide the baby's biological sex from doctors.
/r/MensRights08/07/17 03:08 PM
4

In their mind, I would have to imagine raising a child as gender neutral means they intentionally make the kid do thing that are the opposite of what that sex stereotypically does so they can feel special. It's just silly to me....like, I have a 4 year old son, and he's an all around tough kid who loves to play hard, loves his hot wheels and legos, loves roughhousing, getting dirty playing outside, etc...mostly stereotypically masculine things. When he plays with his boy cousin, they tend to pla…
/r/MensRights08/07/17 11:17 AM
1

Yeah don't get me wrong, I'm totally ok with defining gender as a set of behaviors, preferences, personality traits, etc. But as I think you're pointing out, then the left tends to jump to "Don't stereotype based on gender!" and it leaves me wondering....what the hell is the point of gender if it doesn't describe anything then?
/r/MensRights08/07/17 11:10 AM
12

So this is bullshit. The left has been telling us for quite some time "Gender isn't the same thing as sex". Yet here we have the Canadian ID card, which has a part for "sex", and they list unknown, and proceed to conflate it with gender in the first sentence of the article. Even the headline reads "Canada issues ‘unknown’ health card to gender neutral baby". So which is it? If sex is simply biology (which I would argue it is), then listing that as female or male is nothing more than a function o…
/r/MensRights08/07/17 01:07 AM
3

Any moment now, CNN will use this as evidence that there isn't systemic/institutional sexism in the hiring process....any....moment.......now..............
/r/MensRights02/07/17 10:37 PM
9

Maybe I missed it, but holy fucking shit, is this in America??? Looks like the cop's path says Austin, is it TX?
/r/MensRights24/06/17 12:27 PM
33

B-but they have good fundamentals!
/r/MensRights23/06/17 10:31 PM
1

Do you intend to answer the question, or keep dodging?
/r/MensRights25/05/17 10:29 AM
1

Do YOU believe a child having sex is the worst thing that can happen to them?
/r/MensRights24/05/17 08:13 PM
1

Of course it's considered worse when an adult abuses a child. Is this even a real question? I hold my 4 year old to a higher standard of behavior than I held him when he was 2. When he's 10, I'll expect more out of him and expect better judgment from him than I do now. When he's 20, even more so. How do you not understand how that works?
/r/MensRights24/05/17 10:20 AM
1

Yeahhh right back to disregarding what I wrote and acting like I wrote something different. Alrighty then.
/r/MensRights23/05/17 02:59 AM
1

Females are assumed most at risk, most labile and easily manipulated into sex (without marrying them), as the suffragettes wanted And I'm saying that's an outdated and insulting assumption. most physically at risk through pregnancy or diseases. I don't see how that relates to whether or not they consented to sex.... For the sake of brevity (and because I believe what I've said here applies to most of what you've written), I'll stop at that for now.
/r/MensRights23/05/17 01:33 AM
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Good talk, always a pleasure talking to someone who doesn't respond to what you wrote. I'm out, have a good night.
/r/MensRights22/05/17 11:36 PM
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That's quite the non sequitur. Pointing out most criminal investigations involving underage sex offenses charge males is in no way proof that females are in fact the victim most of the time. That could prove that women report it more often, or that there is inherent bias in the criminal system, so that in cases such as this, when both are underage, they choose to charge the male even if there is no evidence of coercion or force by either of them. Even if it DID make the point you are trying to m…
/r/MensRights22/05/17 11:06 PM
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Already read it....
/r/MensRights22/05/17 10:08 AM
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Please point out what part is supposed to make your point...that's rather rude to post something of that length without specifying or quoting.
/r/MensRights22/05/17 01:17 AM
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Right, then it falls back to who initiated Which the article in no way establishes, do you want to reveal your special revelation to the rest of the class? Ultimately, it also falls back to who is considered more 'at risk', which is always 'females'. Source?
/r/MensRights21/05/17 01:50 PM
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And she did all the same things, so your point is irrelevant.
/r/MensRights20/05/17 11:48 AM
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Oh yes, that would be nice. Pure insanity that you can be convicted of it on nothing more than "victim" testimony.
/r/MensRights15/05/17 10:18 AM
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A person recanting isn't the only evidence.
/r/MensRights15/05/17 10:09 AM
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Maybe if we harshly punished the liars, less people would lie about it, preventing it from being a problem in the damn first place.
/r/MensRights15/05/17 02:17 AM
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So you're pro wasting money compiling lists that are useless, cool.
/r/MensRights05/05/17 10:42 PM
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It could also prevent even MORE of the false accusations from initially occurring, which should be the primary focus.
/r/MensRights02/05/17 09:01 PM
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What the fuck I didn't realize it was that long ago. Just damn...
/r/MensRights25/04/17 12:31 AM
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I haven't read up that much on this story to know that, but if that's the case then obviously that's exponentially worse!
/r/MensRights25/04/17 12:30 AM
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Implanted memories are an amazing thing, I've listened to some podcasts and a solid (I think) TED talk on the topic.
/r/MensRights25/04/17 12:30 AM
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This is scary....I mean obviously I have no way to know whether or not he actually committed the crime. But from reading the article, and the nature of the crime, it would seem the only 'evidence' is them saying he did it. Literally he-said/she-said. That's a horrifying thought, that you can be sentenced to six years in jail for someone saying you did something, having nothing to back the accusation up, therefore making it impossible to defend against.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 10:53 AM
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I sure as hell know my ex-wife spent a shit-ton of time on tumblr, fb, pinterest, and god knows what other social media. Me, I post on reddit maybe once or twice a day on average, facebook once a week, and that's really it. Definitely prefer face-to-face interactions with people rather than the false perceptions of people's lives you get from the "highlight reel" of people's lives you're inundated with on social media.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 10:24 PM
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This hits too close to home for me and my ex wife...
/r/MensRights23/04/17 07:36 PM
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Only technically. Still defines penetration specifically as the criminal part, so by definition, in PIV sex, a woman cannot be a rapist still.
/r/MensRights23/03/17 12:43 PM
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Viewing things through lenses such as "black/white/male/female privilege" is an overly simplistic way of looking at things that doesn't seem to get anything accomplished. 400 years of slavery ,extremely harsh treatment is the same thing as jewish immigrants immigrating Do you think it's typically easier to immigrate to a foreign country with a different culture and different language and succeed than to be born in that country and succeed? ManicRetard, go read the thread i link on AA, read my po…
/r/MensRights16/03/17 04:58 PM
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Did you know that when jews came to America in the early 1900's, the first generation jewish immigrants took, on average, 4.5 years to reach income parity with white American-born citizens? Foreign culture, foreign language, and they managed to do this in less than half a decade. So forgive me for not accepting all these excuses for American born blacks not being able to succeed. Unless you think blacks are inferior to jews, and aren't as capable....
/r/MensRights16/03/17 03:53 PM
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That's the best part. Can you even imagine a universe in which a grown-ass man fucks a young teenager girl, knocks her up, and gets custody of the child and she has to pay him child support?
/r/MensRights24/02/17 04:15 AM
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Women Are Wonderful bro.
/r/MensRights24/02/17 04:13 AM
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those kids have to live with your decision to leave as well and will never be able to divorce their mother Clearly implies they're not being around the father as much if at all, which would be due to her having primary/sole custody. Don't play stupid games. Staying at home to raise kids is not a privilege Are you a parent? I am, and I would take spending the whole day with my son every day over having to earn a living at work, given the choice. Generally, is a poor blanket statement, and removin…
/r/MensRights17/02/17 12:42 AM
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those kids have to live with your decision to leave as well and will never be able to divorce their mother. Why are you assuming the mother is getting custody? If she stayed at home for a decade raising your kids, what is a fair salary for that sacrifice? Raising the children is a sacrifice, as compared to going to work? Really? I'd call that a privilege. I'd be a stay-at-home dad in a heartbeat if that was feasible. Did you divorce the kids as well when they became too large an expense? Again, …
/r/MensRights16/02/17 10:24 PM
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Seems to me that even in the most extreme cases of finances being intertwined, one spouse having zero work experience, etc, it's really hard to make a case for anything beyond a couple years. If there's something going on like a disability, that shouldn't be on the ex-spouse.
/r/MensRights16/02/17 09:20 PM
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You'll also kindly notice they never give a shit about the man maintaining his standard of living....
/r/MensRights14/02/17 01:06 AM
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What I always want to ask is, what if (in this hypothetical) you simply say you never gave consent and want to have her charged with rape?
/r/MensRights11/02/17 09:05 PM
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If reporting assault gets you bad press....you've got serious publicity issues. Also, unless she presses charges against you, I doubt there's much of anything you can do regarding her lying about you groping her. Maybe something like "inciting to violence" but idk.
/r/MensRights11/02/17 08:24 PM
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Yes! I'm a guy, I've had my ass grabbed, slapped, been brushed against sexually, had girls sit on my lap when I didn't want it, had plenty of sexual comments made over the years, I've had a couple girlfriends get PISSED that they wanted to have sex and I wasn't up for it, and I got over it. I'm not scarred. These women are fragile. They're pansies. It's insane to act like someone slapping your ass is even roughly equivalent to being raped, or sexually abused/assaulted.
/r/MensRights28/01/17 09:42 PM
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Definitely. I don't see any shame in saying that men tend to do the most bad things, and the most good things. Us men commit most shootings, robberies, and also do the most dangerous jobs, invent most new technologies, it'll virtually always be a man stopping to help fix someone's flat on the side of the road, be a firefighter, etc. On average, men are the doers and risk takers of the species. It's ok to acknowledge that.
/r/MensRights17/01/17 09:55 PM
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If he had std's that she got infected with as a result, I could see legal action being sensible. If he had no std's, then they're absolutely equivalent.
/r/MensRights13/01/17 07:43 PM
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"Penetration...of the vagina or anus...without the consent of the victim" So yes, it is specifically saying penetration OF one of those things. If you can find examples of this definition to prosecute women who had, for example, PIV sex with a man who didn't consent, I'll change my mind.
/r/MensRights12/01/17 10:02 PM
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No. It reads: or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim. Oral penetration.
/r/MensRights12/01/17 08:06 PM
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Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object Where do you see that there?
/r/MensRights12/01/17 07:52 PM
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Which is still, by definition not giving a shit about men forced to have sex with women, aka rape.
/r/MensRights12/01/17 03:34 PM
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I get that. It's sad though, since obviously if the genders were reversed.....we know the woman would have no problems taking/winning legal action.
/r/MensRights23/12/16 12:09 PM
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I completely agree. I'm only saying that as of now, society still largely views women as helpless things to be protected at all costs, no matter the circumstances. Not saying that's right.
/r/MensRights23/12/16 02:59 AM
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Glad that turned out well! I don't mean to take away from your story or anything, but I'm assuming you didn't press charges?
/r/MensRights23/12/16 02:09 AM
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If she tries to punch me, and in that moment I counter, that's a lot harder to fault me for I truly, TRULY wish this were true. I think we're getting a little better as a society at calling out and exposing the bullshit stories and cases where this shit happens, but we still have a ways to go.
/r/MensRights23/12/16 02:08 AM
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That's what I was thinking. On mobile, so haven't read the study. But if male doctors are seeing way more patients that either seems to indicate they're helping patients WAY more efficiently, and/or working WAY more hours than their female counterparts. In either scenario, even if there is a slight difference of around .5% mortality rate, the male doctors are clearly doing a much better job of helping people.
/r/MensRights22/12/16 12:25 PM
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How can she slap?
/r/MensRights22/12/16 11:58 AM
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You say that....but when you're in that real life situation, it strikes you that you'll likely be ruined by now being known to everyone as that guy who beats women. It's bullshit of course, but at least right now, society is still super protective of women in the west.
/r/MensRights22/12/16 11:58 AM
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You think that will protect you? Heh.
/r/MensRights22/12/16 12:33 AM
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My ex wife would tell me I should open up more, that I was like a robot, that this was why our marriage was failing. What she didn't acknowledge was that every time I opened up to her about anything, the next time we got into an argument about something, or sometimes for no known reason at all, she'd turn it against me. I'm not keeping to myself because I don't know how to talk about my emotions, I'm doing it because I learned she would betray my trust every single fucking time. And then also bl…
/r/MensRights08/12/16 11:38 PM
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Very true. There's nothing inherently bad about being angry. It's generally a reaction to something perceived as unfair, and is a valuable emotion.
/r/MensRights08/12/16 11:29 PM
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Stop being such a gender ambiguous genital!
/r/MensRights30/11/16 07:22 PM
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Honestly I see it as rather simple. Men have more testosterone, they tend to be the "doers" of the species. Men generally do more selflessly good things, do more horrifically bad deeds, we build more things, break more things, most people at the top of society are men, most at the bottom living in gutters are men. Natural selection has caused this, and the sooner we accept it, the sooner we can move on with our lives without the sexist propaganda against men.
/r/MensRights28/11/16 01:58 AM
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I love the line where they say the teens were "watching in shock" as the situation unfolds....the sarcastic voice in my head wants to insert "the teens watch in shock as the bus marshall has the nerve to defend himself from his attacker".
/r/MensRights27/11/16 07:09 PM
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Hmm well I've never initiated violence against men or women outside of screwing around, but I'm still supposed to "reflect" on other men's violence? Let's fuck with the wording a bit: I pledge never to commit, condone, or remain silent about black violence against whites in all its forms. Encourage black people to think, question and reflect on their own and other black people's behaviours So on and so forth. Now it almost reads as if it's....racist or something. Huh, interesting.
/r/MensRights27/11/16 01:35 PM
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The problem is the fact that we're so used to women getting special treatment, that it even seems sensible to anyone for them to have their own bathroom if men are forced to share with whoever wants to come in. I'm down with unisex bathrooms, I don't give a damn about who's in the stall next to me....hell, maybe that would be good for society in general.
/r/MensRights20/11/16 09:11 PM
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The problem is the fact that we're so used to women getting special treatment, that it even seems sensible to anyone for them to have their own bathroom if men are forced to share with whoever wants to come in. I'm down with unisex bathrooms, I don't give a damn about who's in the stall next to me....hell, maybe that would be good for society in general.
/r/MensRights20/11/16 09:11 PM
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The problem is the fact that we're so used to women getting special treatment, that it even seems sensible to anyone for them to have their own bathroom if men are forced to share with whoever wants to come in. I'm down with unisex bathrooms, I don't give a damn about who's in the stall next to me....hell, maybe that would be good for society in general.
/r/MensRights20/11/16 09:11 PM
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False. Source: have cleaned bathrooms in restaurants.
/r/MensRights20/11/16 09:01 PM
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Do you not understand the difference between locker room banter, and spreading nude photos of someone that someone took without their consent?
/r/MensRights20/10/16 08:05 PM
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Honestly I think I'd be inclined to say roll with it, and say yes, men commit the most violence against women, even more violence against other men, we also invent and innovate the most, donate the most to charity, do the most dangerous (and vital!) jobs, we consume the most food, we comprise most of our homeless and suicides, we work the most hours, we take the most risks (and therefore make up most of the success and failure stories)....generally speaking, men DO the most of....nearly everythi…
/r/MensRights20/10/16 07:33 PM
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You'll kindly notice they never say "girls can be garbage collectors and landscapers and plumbers too"
/r/MensRights15/10/16 08:00 PM
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Don't worry about it being strange! If you're both happier, you're gaining independence, and you're both able to set a good example for your child, good on you! I wish more men and women had that perspective and insight, I wish only the best for your continued cooperation and planning!
/r/MensRights10/10/16 11:44 PM
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Ffs, the kinds of stuff my female coworkers say they'd like to do to our (married) manager would make even the Donald blush....and I say who the fuck cares! Just keep the dirty talk to your group, and it's all good.
/r/MensRights10/10/16 11:33 PM
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Lucky? Not sure if that's the right term ;)
/r/MensRights04/10/16 01:17 AM
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You're sexist. There were many instances of men being completely incompetent around you but you ignored them and concentrated on the cases fit into your sexist worldview Nope, there were absolutely incompetent men working around me. But a higher proportion of the women were either incompetent or lazy. But obviously you're just trying to get a reaction by making asinine assumptions, so have a good night.
/r/MensRights30/09/16 02:36 AM
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Trueee, they should make generators just for women, but they'll only do 77% of the work a patriarchy generator does.
/r/MensRights29/09/16 08:30 PM
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Because the military wants to have a culture of self sufficiency, encouraging people to actually try and figure things it in their own when possible. It's good in a lot of ways, harmful in others. I enjoyed my time in, but I'm also glad to be out.
/r/MensRights29/09/16 08:29 PM
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Clearly you didn't read my post.
/r/MensRights29/09/16 08:13 PM
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They were lower ranking than me, it's generally considered taboo to give up and ask for someone of higher rank to do the job for you.
/r/MensRights29/09/16 07:11 PM
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Yes, they're in awkward positions and need to be supported while the v-band clamp holding them in place is installed.
/r/MensRights29/09/16 06:39 PM
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I don't believe many people are disputing that some men aren't fit for the job, and some women are. The simple fact is, a FAR higher percentage of men in the job are actually fit for the job, simple as that. The more people (mostly women) allowed to slip through the cracks, the less effective the force is. I was in the Marines, I've seen this crap firsthand, women doing my job (aircraft maintenance) who couldn't do basic tasks like installing generators. One time there were two fellow [female] M…
/r/MensRights29/09/16 03:21 PM
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Yes, it boils down to productivity, the thing employees are getting paid for. Do you think that's a bad thing?
/r/MensRights27/09/16 06:35 PM
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Working less is a reason to get paid less. Nobody is forcing anybody to get pregnant. Getting pregnant isn't a negative stereotype, it's a physical process. Her body, her choice. If she chooses to get/stay pregnant, that will have real-life impact. I work in a pretty cushy white-collar job, and my workplace is about 75% women, so obviously there wasn't much bias against women there.
/r/MensRights27/09/16 11:07 AM
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That if they want equal income, they have to earn it. Do you disagree?
/r/MensRights27/09/16 03:43 AM
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And towards the end just now, when she accusingly said to Trump "You've said that women shouldn't get paid the same if they can't do the same work as men".....I'm thinking, what exactly is the problem with that statement?
/r/MensRights27/09/16 02:42 AM
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Men very rarely press charges against women for sexual assault, and we already know that very often this is due to the stigma, negative perception of their masculinity if they do (after all, men don't generally like being seen as victims), but I suspect you already know these things. Therefore, referring to how many men are CHARGED with sexual assault isn't necessarily relevant. In addition, so the fuck what? Women not getting men's consent is obviously a problem, both from stories in the news, …
/r/MensRights18/09/16 12:55 PM
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Exactly. If I don't want to go to the town fair initially, but my friend convinces me to go there eventually, it doesn't mean I was abducted.
/r/MensRights17/09/16 07:12 PM
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I get your point, and there's a degree of validity to it. Having said that, I've seen countless instances of men being told they need to get affirmative consent from women, and literally not a single instance in my life of women being told they need affirmative consent from men (not saying that means it has never happened of course, that would be foolish), so it's not like it's a shot in the dark....a relatively educated guess, yknow?
/r/MensRights17/09/16 04:15 PM
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Basically, we need to stop treating women like delicate fucking flowers who should never have to endure the horror of hurt feelings.
/r/MensRights17/09/16 01:24 PM
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It's also funny since feminists often tout themselves as super empathetic and compassionate, but that's exposed as an obvious facade in light of this kind of shit.
/r/MensRights17/09/16 01:22 PM
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One of the most fucking stupid things about this is they ALWAYS talk about needing to get a woman's consent before having sex. Why the hell is it NEVER about them getting a man's "enthusiastic consent"? And obviously this is tongue-in-cheek. I know why they don't talk about it. These types assume men always want sex, to them, men are living in a state of desperate consent to any sex they can get. Their worldview would be shattered if they ever stopped to think for a moment that maybe men don't w…
/r/MensRights17/09/16 11:16 AM
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Kay.
/r/MensRights17/09/16 03:20 AM
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Get the fuck out here with your nonsense, "the act of sex is defiling". What do you think this is, /r/westborobaptist?
/r/MensRights16/09/16 06:26 PM
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And despite a small Q angle, there is clearly a marked difference in men's vs women's gait.
/r/MensRights16/09/16 03:45 AM
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Female: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Veye-N0A4 Male: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq9A5FD8G5w
/r/MensRights16/09/16 03:31 AM
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Do you honestly not understand the difference between hips being wider, and it being comfortable to have legs wider? With wider set hips, it will be more comfortable and natural for your legs to go inwards. And that's not even mentioning the whole testicles thing.
/r/MensRights16/09/16 03:10 AM
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taking more than one seat is just plain rude If the public transit is busy/near full, sure Men tend to do it more than women Citation needed. I've used a good bit of public transit, and while I certainly haven't counted, there's a shit-ton of women with purses and handbags they give their own seat. I think our entitlement to space Why are you assuming men feel more entitled to space than women? but women have broader hips The hips don't fucking matter, nobody ever claimed it was people hips taki…
/r/MensRights16/09/16 02:39 AM
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Of course there are various factors that cause it, otherwise it wouldn't happen. And there's no reason to assume it is sexism against men. Just like if men happen to be more likely to take up more space on public transit, why the hell is anyone justified in saying it's because sexism? There are these things called testicles, bone structure, more body mass, etc, which kind of are a HUGE factor.
/r/MensRights16/09/16 02:07 AM
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Time off in general.
/r/MensRights16/09/16 01:26 AM
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Haha well that's definitely more creative than mine.
/r/MensRights16/09/16 01:26 AM
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This is also a fact: It's mostly men engaging in the behavior. So it would be about equally sensible to come up with a term for women taking time off from work, like "woman-slacking", since they tend to take more time off than men do, and it's obviously part of an agenda to make the men do all the work! See how stupid that sounds? That's how feminists sound when they say shit like "manspreading".
/r/MensRights16/09/16 12:23 AM
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The President absolutely has checks on his power, namely Congress and the Judicial Branch of government. Yes the president should be careful, and yes it's preferable to enforce the law most of the time, but when there's such an insane amount of money being dumped into the "War On Drugs" that's arguably not only not doing good, but actually doing harm to society...I see that as a potential exception.
/r/MensRights11/09/16 12:31 AM
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So to back up a step then, you're saying that Abe Lincoln would've been wrong to refuse to return slaves to their owners until the law had been changed? EDIT: I should've worded my original contention better. Not that it's the JOB of the president to sometimes refuse to enforce the law, you're right, his job is to enforce it. But I believe there are times when your moral obligations should take precedence over your job.
/r/MensRights10/09/16 11:15 PM
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It's not a comparison. It's making a point using another set of circumstances. Do you agree that if something is morally bad, but enforced by the law, the president can be justified in ordering the law to not be enforced?
/r/MensRights10/09/16 07:42 PM
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Sometimes the law is morally wrong, like when it was legal to own slaves. In such an instance, yes, the law should be changed, but in nthe meantime I'm ok with POTUS telling the police not to return escaped slaves to their owners.
/r/MensRights10/09/16 06:56 PM
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To be fair....the middle east pulls that kinda stuff
/r/MensRights10/09/16 05:23 PM
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The job is to improve the country. If that means telling feds not to waste their time and resources on efforts causing more harm than good, so be it.
/r/MensRights10/09/16 04:58 PM
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Which I absolutely support, that he's instructing the feds to not prosecute. But that's not the same as actual decriminalization. Next president can easily just decide they want the feds to resume the pot prosecutions without having to change any laws
/r/MensRights10/09/16 01:43 PM
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I literally just said that it doesn't mean a man SHOULD be our president. I don't give a fuck what our president has between their legs, or how dark their skin is. That's fucking superficial and juvenile.
/r/MensRights10/09/16 01:51 AM
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Men have always disproportionately been the doers of the species, the risk takers, the people taking action. It shouldn't be surprising that they also happen to have been all of our presidents thus far. It doesn't mean that men SHOULD be our presidents, but when I see a viable candidate who happens to be a woman, I'll vote for her. I don't give a flying fuck about their gender.
/r/MensRights10/09/16 01:28 AM
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Because some people objectively share more life experiences with others. For example, If Obama had grown up in the ghetto, I'd take this "Poor black kids can relate to him" more seriously. But he didn't, he was overall more privileged than me growing up by all accounts I'm aware of.
/r/MensRights10/09/16 12:41 AM
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A step in the right direction, I'll agree there. Unfortunately, there's a LOT of steps to be taken still.
/r/MensRights10/09/16 12:32 AM
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And yet hasn't done anything federally to decriminalize drugs, or even pot :/ I get that there'd be lots of resistance, but fuck it, he can't be re-elected, now is the time to fight against the broken and corrupt as hell drug war, he's got the least to lose now.
/r/MensRights10/09/16 12:31 AM
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Do you think that because a person thinks they can relate to someone else, it means they can?
/r/MensRights10/09/16 12:30 AM
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Well I can't get behind Trump or Carson either, I think I'm going with Gary Johnson, and hope he gets a lot of representation. I'd LIKE to think Trump is trolling everyone for the fundie right vote, and then is gonna get serious in office if he's elected, but I think that's unrealistic to expect. Carson's religious views turned me off to him especially, it's honestly hard for me to take any candidate seriously who emphasizes their religion, as if that should play any role in how they govern. Hav…
/r/MensRights10/09/16 12:28 AM
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I see what you mean and partially agree. I was more speaking about when they talk about anything outside the norm....lobbyists, taxes, etc.
/r/MensRights10/09/16 12:25 AM
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Well it depends. If you've got a law saying black people can't own land, them holy shit you've got systemic racism. If you've got a particular race that statistically is worse off economically, that isn't necessarily the result of racism. Could be cultural differences or values causing them not to do as well as other races.
/r/MensRights09/09/16 06:24 PM
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The other thing is, I wouldn't vote for someone just because they happen to be male. Despite being on men's rights, I know that by virtue of being a male, a person doesn't necessarily share any of my significant struggles.
/r/MensRights09/09/16 06:22 PM
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Wait Obama was raised in the ghetto? Do you have amything to back up your claim of Obama having been notably influenced or hurt by racism?
/r/MensRights09/09/16 06:19 PM
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Yeah noo, whether or not you can relate to someone isn't just an opinion. It's a matter of whether you actually share a large amount of similar experiences, generally speaking. If all you share is a skin color, pardon my not taking that seriously.
/r/MensRights09/09/16 06:16 PM
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And that right there is why I think most people dislike career politicians, it's difficult to know what they'll actually fight for, and what they're saying just to get votes, until after they're elected.
/r/MensRights09/09/16 06:12 PM
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I'm sure! And that's equally as idiotic as voting for her because she's a woman!
/r/MensRights09/09/16 06:10 PM
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Who the THINK they can relate to. I don't really think a black kid who grew up in the ghetto and has never been outside of it can truly relate to Obama, even if he thinks he can.
/r/MensRights09/09/16 11:53 AM
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Brother, you're going through a turned up version of the events leading to my divorce. We had a child together too, which is the only reason I didn't divorce sooner. Document everything you can (if legal where you are) to protect yourself, but gtfo sooner rather than later. I can't even explain with words how much happier you'll be once you've broken her hold on you.
/r/MensRights04/08/16 10:46 PM
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The whole idea of bitching about being catcalled is inane. As a man who has been catcalled a lot, who the fuck cares? So someone objectified you....k? What's the big deal?
/r/MensRights23/07/16 05:17 PM
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A few months or so back a self proclaimed feminist posted here basically as an open invite for questions, and stating why she thought feminism was perfect....I never got her to actually acknowledge the problem of female on male rape.
/r/MensRights18/07/16 11:15 PM
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You look at threads like the one on the front page currently, about the German rape law change, and in EVERY single comment I've read talking about rape hypotheticals, people use "she" as the victim, and/or "he" as the perp.
/r/MensRights07/07/16 10:13 PM
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The whole reason men need supporting is because of them being treated as second class citizens in many places, the reason that is the case much of the time is feminism. If that is the reason for many of these atrocities, of COURSE it makes sense for that to be a recurring theme here.
/r/MensRights02/07/16 11:34 AM
1

Idk I think violent diarrhea might be an effective rape deterrent....
/r/MensRights28/06/16 06:44 PM
1

"Men should always get clear consent before making advances" "UUgghhh all I get is these pathetic nice guy losers interested in me, doing corny awkward shit like asking if they can hold my hand, where did the real men go?"
/r/MensRights28/06/16 06:31 PM
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I posted a story about men and rape this morning on facebook, usually my posts get 5-30ish likes, and a few comments within a day....this one just got reaction out of a good friend, and that's it. People are so quick to jump on the social media bandwagon with stuff like the swimmer dude, make it about men as victims.....crickets
/r/MensRights20/06/16 12:08 AM
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It's a joke about stereotypes, honestly I find it to be more of a jab at women than men. Having said that, I used to be married to someone where this shit was a reality. It was fucking hell.
/r/MensRights20/06/16 12:00 AM
3

I did a few quick searches to find NAACP saying this with no luck...any chance of me getting a link?
/r/MensRights19/06/16 11:57 PM
1

For a second there I thought this was posted in CMV... what fun that would probably be, seeing people try to justify the whole "don't hit women" thing.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 10:16 PM
1

As /u/secv808 said, we already have taxes going towards helping raise kids. Furthermore, when did I say the judicial system would be imposing a new tax? Nice strawman. Whether or not it's consistent with precedents isn't what matters, what matters is whether such precedent can be justified. I have yet to see such justification.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 05:16 PM
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That's where it was cross-posted from, but apparently it was removed from there.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 12:25 PM
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And just to be clear, he was ordered to pay child support not from when he turned 18, but from the time of the child's birth when he was still a minor! Like holy shit, ignoring the fact that it's ridiculous to award a rapist child support for the product of their crime, he wasn't earning anything because of that whole going to high school thing, so upon what the ever-loving-fuck are they basing the child support calculations?
/r/MensRights19/06/16 12:21 PM
1

And since they've proved themselves to be predatory, they probably shouldn't have custody either....
/r/MensRights19/06/16 12:14 PM
1

There's this thing called taxpayer dollars. They're often used to pay for criminal proceedings and such.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 12:13 PM
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He's privileged to even have contact with his rapist, what a lucky male! How dare he complain about that!
/r/MensRights19/06/16 12:12 PM
2

I'd be more than happy to have my tax dollars help raise a child when they're conceived from rape, rather than taking a chance that any such minor has to foot the bill for being a victim. It's not that hard.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 12:09 PM
2

Do you know why that is different? In a relationship between two minors, there's a much lesser chance of there being predatory coercion or manipulation.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 12:07 PM
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Cool, so if I get a minor to sign over an irrevocable POA so I can do virtually anything in their name for the rest of their life, it should stand in court, since they were a willing participant. Sound logic there.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 12:02 PM
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Basically yes, the whole point of these laws is to protect younger people from predatory older people, and from the fact that they're more easily manipulated due to worse judgment.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 11:57 AM
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Not to mention that if becoming sexually aroused matters, any woman who has orgasmed when being raped (it happens) consented.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 11:55 AM
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That makes it WORSE if he was a horny teenager, the whole point of statutory rape laws is to protect children/teenagers from predatory adults, since younger people tend to have worse judgment. And this case is a perfect example of WHY we need those laws, because younger people are less likely to think about the consequences of their actions, and are more prone to being taken advantage of.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 11:51 AM
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The fact that you'd even consider that you aren't a rapist is disgusting. Fucking men, right?
/r/MensRights19/06/16 11:49 AM
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I love how feminists will say that as if it means anything. Ummm sure, any man is a potential rapist, sure. Any woman is a potential rapist, murderer, thief, abuse. What's their point? I realize of course they're trying to say all men are on the verge of raping people all the time without coming out and saying that, but it's still funny in a tragic way how they use that phrasing.
/r/MensRights13/06/16 06:20 PM
3

That a statutory rapist shouldn't have custody of the product of the aforementioned rape?
/r/MensRights01/06/16 11:25 PM
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Define rape culture. We can work from there.
/r/MensRights29/05/16 06:43 PM
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Being able to incapacitate the woman by restraining her should be the first step if available I disagree completely. You have no way of knowing if someone has a blade concealed in their hand, pocket, or if there's one on a nearby counter, etc. Someone attacks you, you take them out/get out of the situation as quickly as possible. Grappling with someone who may be able to easily slice and dice you from up close is a fucking horrible idea.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 12:00 PM
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The bigger point is the double standards. You can find case after case of men being jailed/fired/sued on nothing more than a single woman's testimony of rape/sexual assault/sexual harassment, but here when you've got a whole bunch of men testifying against a woman, they do nothing. If the standard was at least consistent, one way or the other, I believe there would be far less jimmies rustled.
/r/MensRights24/05/16 11:29 AM
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And on oil rigs, at construction jobs, on fishing boats, as mechanics, as civilian contractors, etc. It's complete bullshit that people only talk about getting women into the clean, safe higher paying jobs.
/r/MensRights20/05/16 11:43 PM
3

Honestly I think the best way of dealing with this is simply ridiculing people like this women. It's such pathetic behavior it doesn't merit real discussion.
/r/MensRights20/05/16 05:48 PM
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This is one of those areas where society has to acknowledge that on the one hand, yes, harsher sentences across the board aren't always the best tool to deter people from crime. But super lenient sentencing allows people like this woman to run rampant fucking up people's lives without consequence. There's a middle ground to be found.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 03:29 PM
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And you know why we have all these false accusations in the first place? Because there's no penalty for it, compared to the falsely accused. And until we break the cycle and penalize those narcissistic liars, they'll continue to make false claims of rape since they stand to lose virtually nothing, even if proven false.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 11:20 PM
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Why do you think this?
/r/MensRights14/05/16 04:51 AM
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Is there ANY other crime where you believe we shouldn't punish people for it at all as long as they come clean later?
/r/MensRights14/05/16 03:55 AM
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Apparently the work culture in those dirty jobs is toxic towards women, "don't even get me started on the problems women would face in that job". Good thing men don't face any problems in those jobs!
/r/MensRights12/05/16 03:44 PM
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Same here, been blackout drunk a fair amount of times, have some martial arts training, am bigger guy....and I've NEVER assaulted anyone. It's no excuse.
/r/MensRights10/05/16 01:32 PM
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Alrighty then. Have a good night bud.
/r/MensRights09/05/16 03:08 AM
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I didn't see that in the article. Where is it?
/r/MensRights09/05/16 03:05 AM
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So who the heck do you think he's being ordered to pay all that child support for?
/r/MensRights09/05/16 12:50 AM
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Where does it say he only has 4 kids? If he has seven kids, he can have 3 with him, 3 on their own, and the youngest with the mother.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 10:15 PM
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Currently in Henry’s home, in Woodcliff Lake, live three of his children, Nathan, age 22, Sarah age 20 and Samuel age 17. RTFA.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 04:25 PM
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I feel like these have to be people with shitty, boring, or non-existent sex lives to think this kind of shit makes any sense in the real world.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 04:04 PM
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In the article they should specify statutory rape, so we know what exactly happened.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 03:34 PM
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It depends on one's definition of rape, legal definitions label rape as sex without consent generally (not getting into the fact that many of them define women raping people out of existence in many cases). So if one person is passed out, and the other person is horny and has sex with them just because they want to have sex, it's probably fair to say they did it for sexual release, yet it's legally rape.
/r/MensRights05/05/16 05:13 PM
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"Until the work death gap is closed, I don't care about the wage gap" Checkmate, feminists.
/r/MensRights05/05/16 01:17 PM
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Is it stupid to say that this is what institutional sexism looks like?
/r/MensRights01/05/16 03:23 PM
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I'm not saying it's IMPOSSIBLE for cutting genitals off to be part of raping someone, or done for some form of perverted pleasure. But generally speaking, cutting off genitals does not fall under the category of rape. It's definitely a form of horrible sexual assault, one that I firmly categorize as worse than rape in essentially every instance.
/r/MensRights30/04/16 02:08 PM
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I never specified cutting someone's penis off would necessarily be done for sexual gratification. In fact, I'd find it extremely unlikely that would be a person's motivation for doing that, and much more likely as a form of torture. While I agree it's complete bullshit that, for example, the FBI definition requires penetration for it to be defined as rape, if we call all unwanted activities relating to any sexual organs rape, the term stops really meaning much. Now personally, I think it should …
/r/MensRights29/04/16 04:53 PM
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Someone can be raped AND mutilated. They're not mutually exclusive. But they're also distinct things.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 03:05 PM
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It seems most of the comments are calling her out on her behavior, which is encouraging.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 02:23 PM
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I am an advocate of letting people decide for themselves if they want to be circumcised, as opposed to having the choice made for them.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 01:44 PM
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Rape is a kind of sexual assault. Mutilating someone's genitals is a type of sexual assault. A Mercedez Benz is not the same thing as a Ford Focus, even though they're both types of cars.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 11:13 AM
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How is that relevant?
/r/MensRights29/04/16 04:09 AM
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The fact that there are actually ANY people that think this way, let along that we see this mindset consistently, is indicative of the larger problem. Has anyone ever heard of a man saying "You can't sexually harass a woman"? Of course not, because it's patently absurd. So where did this mentality come from?
/r/MensRights29/04/16 02:23 AM
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I'm pretty sure with 4 kids you get a group discount though, right?
/r/MensRights29/04/16 02:20 AM
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That's a big one. Rape is terrible. But it's not the worst thing. People can chop your dick off, kneecap you, give you a lobotomy, break all your fingers so you'll never be able to use them well again, gouge out your eyes, etc.....rape is NOT the worst thing that can happen to you. If people can get through the Nazi death camps, the Gulag, storming the beaches of Normandy, having stillborn children, and so on, people can get through being raped.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 01:59 AM
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Most of my breakups have been pretty average, I'm friends with a couple of my ex-girlfriends....but my divorce....my ex-wife worked SO fucking hard to convince herself and everyone else that I was a horrible person. And holy hell did she flip the fuck out when I was able to prove via emails or texts that she lied. Some people are just selfish as hell, and the more support you give them, the more they'll hurt the people around them.
/r/MensRights28/04/16 09:17 PM
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Fellow veteran here who used to be in an abusive marriage, and I'm also a guy who doesn't prefer violence (unless It's wrestling with a friend or something). My ex was a little bit less bad than this, but it was similar. She'd do stupid shit, and if I ever dared to call her on it she'd get violent, threaten to cut my dick off, etc. It's hard for us strangers on the internet to get all the specifics and nuances of your situation, but it may be best to involve the police before she potentially doe…
/r/MensRights27/04/16 05:24 PM
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Original sin, SJW edition. Replace one religion with another.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 02:29 PM
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Ehh, as a man with a pretty average libido, I've had problems with some relationships because of her wanting sex more often or less often about as commonly. When a women says she's not up for it tonight, I back off and don't make them feel bad. When I tell a woman I'm not up for it tonight, I've generally been insulted, mocked, guilt tripped, etc. Women are NOT more empathetic than men.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 06:36 PM
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I like your line of thinking. "Our outrage can't possibly have been that effective, take the survey again until you get the desired results!"
/r/MensRights22/04/16 06:18 PM
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Definitely. I believe that CS is enough of a disincentive that abolishing it would be a net benefit to society, both in the short run and long. We could cut down on all the money spent administering it, pursuing legal action and defending against it, and it would help the less selfish parent be much more likely to get more custody of the kid(s), therefore giving the children a better upbringing, and giving them a better chance of being an upstanding citizen not leaching off everyone else.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 06:13 PM
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A life lesson unfortunately taught to mostly just men.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 08:53 PM
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Depending on the school, it could be one where fighting back will get you the same punishment as the instigator. It varies. But you also could be right.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 06:22 PM
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Fuck that. The whole point of statutory rape laws is because teens and children have shitty judgement and are known to make bad choices on instincts and impulses. So the fact that a 13 year old boy might've wanted it if anything makes her predatory actions WORSE, not better.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 06:15 PM
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Because fucking heaven forbid kids experience more than one way of living, oh the horror.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 09:27 PM
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Personally, I'm of the opinion that in no-fault divorces, there should be no child support either way. It provides incentive to the more selfish parent to fight for increased custody, which is the opposite of what's best for the kids.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 09:26 PM
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Oh no trust me it's toxic masculinity that's the problem, and her internalized misogyny. Because reasons.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 07:10 PM
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I THINK they might've been trying to get people to equate the two, and possibly grasp that they're both terrible. I hope so anyways.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 07:08 PM
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Generally speaking, we teach women that no matter what they're feeling, acting on those impulses shows how empowered and strong they are.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 07:06 PM
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Shying from responsibility in true feminist form.
/r/MensRights18/04/16 10:15 PM
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Precisely. It's yet another case of a ridiculous double standard that crumbles under the slightest scrutiny.
/r/MensRights18/04/16 08:50 PM
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As I've said many times before, even if that IS true that teen boys are craving sex with older women, that only makes it worse that the women are taking advantage of their skewed judgment! Because most teens don't truly comprehend the impact of that decision, and can more easily be taken advantage of, which is the whole fucking point of statutory rape laws.
/r/MensRights18/04/16 06:12 PM
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If she's working at a place for women victims of sexual assault and the like, of course she should sympathize with them and support them, that's the entire point of the facility. The problem is when that sympathy causes biased trials, reporting, unfair laws or application of laws (like the duluth model), etc. When a friend comes to you saying something bad happened to them, you generally take them for their word, as long as doing so won't cause harm to others (that person hit me, go shoot them!)…
/r/MensRights18/04/16 05:28 PM
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I tend to agree.... why not just say the truth, that it's to maintain a professional learning environment?
/r/MensRights11/04/16 02:30 PM
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Sorry friend, but you're responding to points that are a little bit different from what I've said. Not sure whether or not it's intentional, but that makes it pointless for me to continue. Have a good day.
/r/MensRights06/04/16 12:25 PM
1

who are "we" humans? Just that, humans. Almost all of us value life, so when another human decides they don't value that, and would be fine with killing us, we work together as a society to protect against that.
/r/MensRights06/04/16 12:23 PM
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There's no such thing as reverse objectification! Objectification requires power, and only cis white men have power.
/r/MensRights06/04/16 02:01 AM
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I never said there was an absolute morality. But by definition, for there to be morals, some principles are better than others towards the end of promoting that which we value. Since I agree there's no absolute morals, I agree they're situational, which is what I'm guessing you mean by fluid. As for self serving, there are absolutely moral values that aren't self-serving, such as sacrificing yourself for a comrade, child, etc. So what if you can't think of a moral value that isn't logically reas…
/r/MensRights06/04/16 01:35 AM
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I've often seen it used to oppress Seen what used to oppress? In many culture now and throughout history killing you enemies is the right and morel thing to do Just because people did it doesn't mean it was moral, if you water down morality to "whatever people do" it becomes meaningless. Many wars were and are started because of some hypothetical moral high ground Again, doesn't mean the warmongers were right. But if you can provide one solid example of a moral that isn't fluid self serving or e…
/r/MensRights05/04/16 08:12 PM
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I disagree. I believe morals are a result of reasoning.
/r/MensRights05/04/16 07:33 PM
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Fat people who lose weight overcome the instinct to eat whenever they want, realizing it's a bad instinct when always followed.
/r/MensRights05/04/16 07:17 PM
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But as you say few people report it. The female reporting rate for DV is low but the male rate is close to zero. I imagine police will become more receptive as the incidence statistics are better known now. Absolutely. I'd wager we'll never see men reporting it proportionately to women, but we can at least try to make it reported more often than it is. Men can do better here, we can't blame feminists for that one. In fact feminists are more supportive of abused men than non-feminist women in my …
/r/MensRights05/04/16 07:14 PM
1

Some human instincts are bad, and we need to overcome them to have a better society that the greatest possible amount of us can enjoy.
/r/MensRights05/04/16 07:08 PM
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And yet if someone were to try and kill you, you'd defend yourself; clearly, we make judgments of certain moral values as higher than others. Do you not?
/r/MensRights05/04/16 07:06 PM
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Yes, and? We all still make moral judgments, and can absolutely say that what a person did was morally bad because it was harmful to those around them.
/r/MensRights05/04/16 12:13 PM
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everyone has their own biases and none is morally above anyone else. Rather than pick apart your post, I'll just point out how ridiculous this is. The best person you can think of isn't morally above Stalin?
/r/MensRights05/04/16 11:54 AM
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F>M DV and particularly emotional abuse is a much bigger problem than most realise, but I wouldn't call them equal. The extra ingredient of physical terror is important. I'm not saying it's always equal, but plenty of women are physically abusive to men, and I firmly believe it's much harder for men to do something about it when they're being abused because of social stigmas (Perpetuated by men and women alike). I've been on the receiving end of domestic violence from an ex, and I know for a fac…
/r/MensRights05/04/16 01:11 AM
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When I read up on this more, I'm actually not against it anymore. Partially since it was, like you mentioned, started by individuals, not gov't funding, and partially because it's specifically for victims of DV. I still am very much disappointed in the fact that despite F>M DV being as bad as M>F DV in many places, that M>F DV gets way more funding and attention, but at the same time, this also (IMHO) has a lot to do with men being taught that refusing to ask for help or acknowledge weakness or …
/r/MensRights04/04/16 08:51 PM
1

Let's ignore for a moment the irony of this welcome shelter being for women who are homeless, even though that's something that men need that women don't need as much... And then move on to the fact that I still don't see any reason to not let men use that location for the needle exchange service.
/r/MensRights01/04/16 11:10 AM
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Assistance was available for female addicts in the region before adding a segregated facility.
/r/MensRights01/04/16 01:26 AM
1

Why? What is to be gained be restricting help to one gender?
/r/MensRights01/04/16 01:25 AM
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Do you think one gender needing more assistance justifies not allowing the other gender with that same issue to get assistance?
/r/MensRights31/03/16 09:00 PM
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Let's assume that's correct....so fucking what? Men commit suicide more, does that justify suicide hotlines only men can call?
/r/MensRights31/03/16 08:56 PM
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I did read the article. Even if women ARE more likely to share needles, that isn't a reason to keep men from using a needle exchange service. Can you think of any reasons?
/r/MensRights31/03/16 08:54 PM
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No shit, so here's a wild idea, how about we wait to see what comes of it? I realize that's not the internet mob way of course.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 04:14 PM
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But why restrict any given location to one gender? I can't see any benefit.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 04:07 PM
1

That has nothing to do with anything.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 01:18 PM
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She didn't shoot her ex, she shot his car in the grill. I don't know whether or not that was her intent, but don't use intentionally misleading titles. Also, it says: the woman could be charged with aggravated assault or criminal mischief. So we don't know that she won't get jail time. Now I agree that a man doing this would face much harsher repercussions, absolutely. But we shouldn't be lying or misrepresenting the truth to try and make our case.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 01:14 PM
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She was literally playing the "I'm not touching you" game that kids play. You can't stop someone from moving about in public spaces by getting in their way, then complain that they don't just give up and not go wherever it is they need to go.
/r/MensRights30/03/16 11:47 AM
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If we were the ones deciding whether or not the man paid child support, there would be reason to not take the story teller's sorry at face value. I'm not suggesting the court should simply take anything at face value....is that where you thought I was coming from?
/r/MensRights27/03/16 05:41 PM
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Except there are risks and costs associated with abortions. Of course there's no perfect solution, but I think a better system could be to give a man, say, 3-6 months or so after initially being made aware of the pregnancy or child to terminate parental responsibilities, and you could require proof that the woman has given him notice. Something like that perhaps could help. And while I think telling men to just keep it in their pants or tie their tubes would be very inappropriate as a response..…
/r/MensRights27/03/16 05:01 PM
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I never proposed an opt-in system, although that's not the worst idea. I'm assuming the man was a willing participant because the person telling the story said he was. Again, this isn't a court. We're not making legal decisions, Jay discussing scenarios as they're presented. It's completely normal to take the story teller at their word for the sake of discussion. Also, you seem to be ignoring the fact that paternity testing is a thing. And abortions aren't generally free, or risk free. It's defi…
/r/MensRights27/03/16 04:56 PM
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This isn't court. This is people making judgment calls based off a story being told. If you want to assume the story cannot be true, that's your prerogative. Do you not realize how ridiculous that standard is? Do you honestly think people shouldn't have opinions on any secondhand stories?
/r/MensRights27/03/16 01:45 PM
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Do you think that at any point up until birth (Assuming the man was a knowing and willing participant in getting her pregnant) a man should be able to terminate parental responsibilities?
/r/MensRights27/03/16 01:32 PM
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Who ever said he did?
/r/MensRights27/03/16 01:23 PM
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I'd like to think it's a fringe minority that's upvoting that garbage....idk. I mean I totally agree that it can be BS that women can terminate responsibility at many points along the way, and men have no say in it. But that doesn't mean in every child support/custody situation the man is always the victim FFS.
/r/MensRights27/03/16 12:40 PM
1

Did you not read his story where he talked about the man WANTING a family?
/r/MensRights27/03/16 12:06 PM
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What the hell? Just because there's shitty women out there doesn't mean they're all conniving psychos looking to trap a man. Obviously you have a hell of a chip on your shoulder, but as someone who used to be married to one of the shitty ones, and has dated some of the good ones....you shouldn't just make insulting assumptions like this. If your hate for apparently all women is so great that /u/Penultimatemoment's story of a dad in fact being shitty pisses you off, that's your baggage.
/r/MensRights27/03/16 12:05 PM
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Don't you just love that shit? It's the law's way of saying "Keep the lie going long enough, and you get rewarded".
/r/MensRights27/03/16 11:26 AM
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they had a female anchor describe the behavior of the lead defense attorney as "offensive and demeaning" because she had a sarcastic tone when cross-examining the accusers (while exposing their willful collusion and deception) Exposing a woman as a liar is offensive and demeaning. Seems par for the course.
/r/MensRights24/03/16 06:40 PM
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If there are any laws requiring a certain amount of men/women in any profession, I'm vehemently against that. If there are companies with a policy of quotas for men and women, I am against that as well, that is covered by discrimination laws.
/r/MensRights22/03/16 03:01 PM
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You're half a step off in most of what you're saying. Equal rights means the legal rights people are granted. There is no legal right to represent half the employees in any given profession.
/r/MensRights22/03/16 02:37 PM
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You're talking about equity, aka equally of outcome. I'm talking about equality of opportunity, and equal rights.
/r/MensRights22/03/16 02:24 PM
3

Do you not understand there's a difference between equal rights and equal abilities?
/r/MensRights22/03/16 12:17 PM
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I don't care if you label both of them as "extreme". One body is attained by pure genetics. One is attained through gluttony. It's not the difference itself that matters, it's the reason for the difference.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 07:39 PM
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They are nothing alike. People are tall due to genetics. They're fat due to diet and lack of exercise. Avoiding dating obese people is smart, because it generally indicates someone with self control and self discipline issues, health issues, etc. Avoiding dating short people is a preference based on nothing but looks, due to something that is in no way within their control. But it's perfectly acceptable for a woman to not date people shorter than her! I have no problem with that. It is, however,…
/r/MensRights21/03/16 07:21 PM
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Because when it's convenient, women are ignorant flowers without agency. The rest of the time they're as good or better than men.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 01:59 AM
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Could be. Again, nor being part of that group, I don't really stay up to date on developments.
/r/MensRights15/03/16 07:59 PM
1

I'm not an MGTOW, but in their defense, it seems to me the movement is comparable to employees going on strike.
/r/MensRights15/03/16 06:51 PM
3

Smart dudes see women accusing dudes of sexual assault left and right. Smart dudes become less likely to approach women. Women hate initiating because "oh my godddd I might be rejected!" Women wonder "where did the good guys go?"
/r/MensRights15/03/16 06:17 PM
2

Funny, last I checked that was called hearsay, and inadmissible in court.
/r/MensRights15/03/16 06:12 PM
2

Precisely. When I was married, over the course of a few months (after marrying) I had to do more and more of the housework, while working 50+ hours a week. Eventually I was doing about 90% of the dishes, cleaning and laundry because she'd just sit around, fuck around on social media, and go out for Starbucks. Divorcing was the best decision of my life! I'm so much happier now.
/r/MensRights15/03/16 02:42 PM
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I agree completely that lifetime alimony is BS, the whole "maintaining previous standard of living" is insane, and the fact that they can and will order alimony/child support based on a man's "earning potential" is also terrifying in many instances. At the same time, when you've got a lot of kids, it's FAR cheaper for one parent to stay home rather than pay insane amounts of cash for childcare. My biggest issue, as I'd suspect with most of us here, is the lack of consistency in enforcement, and …
/r/MensRights15/03/16 11:25 AM
3

I'm saying some people can be homemakers and still be very productive.
/r/MensRights15/03/16 11:19 AM
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To be fair, not all women stop being productive if they're stay-at-home moms. My mother always tended to everything in the house, homeschooled all of us, did all the bills/taxes, has run multiple businesses out of the house (all very profitable), taken care of the gardens and growing a good deal of veggies every summer, etc. Unfortunately, not all women are like her. And she's the first to criticize 3rd wave feminist types.
/r/MensRights15/03/16 12:41 AM
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This is....such an amazing way of putting it. I love you.
/r/MensRights15/03/16 12:39 AM
1

we don't side with people purely because of their genitalia. This is the key. I pride myself in not taking sides just because of someone's gender; if a man's wrong, he's wrong. The big thing, of course, is that most people have no issue blaming a man for a problem he caused. They just have a hard time holding women equally accountable. The saying comes to mind about equality feeling like oppression when you're accustomed to being privileged....
/r/MensRights13/03/16 12:47 PM
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This is fucking tragic to read. The fact that the police/locals/hospital KNEW ABOUT IT and didn't do jack shit; they'll lock up a suspected male for DV in half a heartbeat, but screw this guy apparently.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 12:40 PM
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Depending on where you live, in most areas the person has to be incapacitated to be unable to consent to sex, aka not conscious or capable of taking action. If this is the case where you live (Read up on the law in your country/state/etc), you'd be legally fine in this situation.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 12:34 PM
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Any moment now, they'll be all over this outrageous objectification!
/r/MensRights12/03/16 08:13 PM
14

That's a disturbingly good analogy
/r/MensRights06/03/16 05:46 PM
13

And more importantly, doesn't mean he has any obligation to take a punch.
/r/MensRights06/03/16 05:39 PM
5

Because society at large virtually never holds them accountable for it.
/r/MensRights02/03/16 07:17 PM
2

That's the thing.... I've picked up hitchhikers in the past and given rides.... these days, I would never consider giving a female hitchhiker a ride due to these types of concerns.
/r/MensRights01/03/16 11:55 PM
36

Anyone else notice the cop posting in there saying that when he gets these kind of calls, its basically always the fathers getting called on?
/r/MensRights28/02/16 03:42 PM
1

Here's a wild idea....an app that splits the bill based on income! gasps
/r/MensRights27/02/16 12:05 AM
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I got out of the corps almost 2 years ago, but at the time it was kinda bad. Like others here have said they experienced in the SAPR training, they never mentioned the possibility of a female raping or sexually assaulting a male, and also showed scenarios with both parties drinking but said the make took advantage of the female because reasons. I called it out tactfully, and the dude doing the class basically acknowledged I was right, but that was just the material he had to cover with us.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 11:25 PM
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Sodomy (with an inanimate object) is sexual assault, not rape This is what you said. You're clearly wrong. It's not a huge deal to own up to an honest mistake, but you look ridiculous when you refuse to over such a simple matter. I hope you're not this obtuse IRL.
/r/MensRights18/02/16 12:40 PM
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or object Holy shit is your reading comprehension that bad?
/r/MensRights18/02/16 12:35 PM
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“The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” That's the current DOJ rape definition.
/r/MensRights18/02/16 05:42 AM
1

This is what I love about this sub, facts get upvoted in the face of sensationalist headlines.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 10:26 PM
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Yeah, it's a shitty gift from evolution/natural selection to most men. Women are naturally prone to be selective about their sexual partners, which by default makes most societies based on men pursuing women. It's not necessarily a conscious decision on women's part. If you try not to look at it as them being picky bitches, but instead succumbing to biological drives (Much like a man feeling the impulse to spread his seed). Lots of people don't ever stop to think whether their impulses are ratio…
/r/MensRights15/02/16 08:31 PM
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It's a classic case of people perpetually in victim mode....someone saying things you don't like? Assume it's because of your gender! Obviously some men are needlessly condescending to women, but the word practically invites stupid use.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 09:05 PM
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Or they could just put the same sign up in women's dorms with genders flipped, you know, since women on average are more likely to be violent in a relationship.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 08:34 PM
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Or they could just put the same sign up in women's dorms with genders flipped, you know, since women on average are more likely to be violent in a relationship.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 08:33 PM
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My thing is, we do not know if a similar poster was not put up in the womens dorms. Hahahahahahahahahaha that's priceless. As if.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 08:31 PM
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Honestly I like this idea the most. And maybe post up the stats about actual dv rates in relationships.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 08:16 PM
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Came here to say this. I love how she's assuming he's treating her a certain way because of her gender, and not because of incompetence. Yay victim status!
/r/MensRights12/02/16 12:53 PM
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Another thing you never see feminists mention. Is it so hard to get that on average, men are the "doers" of humanity? Whether it's good shit or bad shit, men tend to be the ones who get shit done.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 02:03 AM
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And the mod decided to stalk my profile and ban me for my sexual preferences. This is the real kicker to me. Feminists often claim to be all about the LGBT community and whatever gigantic dildos and sex toys they wanna fuck around with (I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that at all)....but if a man (especially white) has any sexual interest that deviates the slightest bit from the norm, he's a fucking sexist.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 02:01 AM
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Of course we do have ideologically (And dogmatic) opponents, and of course they'll take anything out of context if they think it'll help their cause. Fuck them.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 03:57 PM
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As with any other crime, an accusation of perjury must be proven in a court of law, and the accused is presumed innocent until found guilty. Perjury shouldn't get special treatment.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 01:18 AM
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Precisely...only with a specific agenda in mind.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 01:18 AM
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Is rather be sexually assaulted than accused of sexual assault any day.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 08:25 PM
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Idk about you, but I've never heard anyone say we should punish an accuser just because they can't substantiate their accusation. That's a complete strawman.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 08:23 PM
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I mentioned to my gf I got this kind of stuff from my ex-wife. Gf said "Aww, was she mean to you?" I asked her if she would say that to my sister when she was in an abusive relationship, and she quickly realized how insensitive she'd been and apologized. She owns up to her mistakes, which is nice.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 04:40 AM
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We discussed this yesterday when you replied to this comment. Not that it was much of a discussion, since you refused to acknowledge the validity of the points I raised in response to you. And once again, in this comment here, you're making strange comparisons, and apparently presuming that anything women struggle with is due to discrimination. Vasectomies and abortion are such ridiculously different issues, the fact you'd try to compare them is absurd. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone asser…
/r/MensRights07/02/16 09:03 PM
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No, it's not the definition of rape. Are you reading the same definition as me? The DOJ definition clearly does not define a man having PIV sex with a woman without his consent as rape, and it should. Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object Ok, a woman forcing herself on a man in PIV sex is NOT penetration of the man's vagina or anus... or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim. A woman forcing herself on…
/r/MensRights07/02/16 12:32 PM
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Rape in the United States is defined by the Department of Justice as “Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” Still just penetration. Not as horribly insufficient as the old definition, but still limited to penetration. Last I checked, you can't orally penetrate with a vagina. While you didn't actually respond to my points, I'll play ball; when a woman forces a…
/r/MensRights07/02/16 04:40 AM
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I apologize in advance for no links, I'm on mobile right now. Having said that.... Rape is typically defined as only forced penetration, not being forced to penetrate, which almost entirely defines males being raped by women out of existence. On top of this, I've seen many men mocked, emasculated, and laughed at if they mention they were raped. There's good reason to believe men under-report rape more so than women, having people actively make fun of them for being raped. Of all domestic violenc…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 11:53 PM
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In your opinion, what are some rights/ privileges men have, that women don't have (here in America)?
/r/MensRights06/02/16 08:29 PM
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Why the hell do you love someone like that? Based on what you've written, she's a selfish, violent, abusive, manipulative person. I'd rather be single my whole life before being in a 'relationship' like that.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 08:20 PM
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Well said. I realize what I said was a broad generalization. In the cases where it's unclear, maybe both parties were drunk, one of them was drunk and wasn't responding to ambiguous cues well, one of them decides they regret it later, etc, you're spot on in that people need to just be more clear about what they do or don't want. A big part of the issue is a culture where generally speaking, men are taught to pursue women, women get off on being chased by many men, women want to have as many men …
/r/MensRights06/02/16 01:27 AM
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It's not like every news source is reporting on those though. The feminist movement adamantly denies that false rape accusations are common, and that they shouldn't be punished. In my own experience in court, unfortunately most judges don't take perjury seriously, because it'll take more time to prosecute, in effect creating a new case. Major news organizations don't commonly report false rape accusation stories, in part because of how powerful a propaganda machine feminism has become. But I'd l…
/r/MensRights05/02/16 09:21 PM
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That's how I tend to see it. If someone is so caught up in societal expectations that they lose sight of basic empathy, and realizing a marriage contract only serves to potentially hurt their partner, they're not that great of a person in the first place.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 09:13 PM
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How many women do you think are actively seeking out news about false rape claims?
/r/MensRights05/02/16 08:54 PM
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Did you actually read my response? I'm on mobile at work. Not able to read the source right now, which is why I'm withholding judgment.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 08:15 PM
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Seconding this. Teach him how to think critically, so he has the tools he needs to come to reasonable conclusions in all walks of life; not what to think.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 06:41 PM
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I mean to say I'm on mobile, and don't currently have time to verify anything.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 06:31 PM
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Damn, if these are legit numbers this is very interesting info. I've always been frustrated by the whole "teach men not to rape line". Aside from the fact that it assumes women don't rape, it also assumes that rapists give a shit about what they're taught regarding this topic.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 06:00 PM
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Equal opportunity? Fuck that, we need equal results! unlessmenaredisadvantaged
/r/MensRights05/02/16 05:57 PM
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It's really sad and infuriating that most people won't acknowledge that if anything qualifies as "rape culture"....it's this.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 12:39 PM
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What news are you watching that consistently reports false rape accusations, with the accuser going to jail?
/r/MensRights05/02/16 12:50 AM
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I don't get it though...it seems she should be responsible for any debt, since it's her house. If she wants to sell it off and buy a smaller house with the profits, she can do that. But how in fuck does it makes sense to order him to pay for something that he isn't legally attached to???
/r/MensRights04/02/16 01:21 AM
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I'm unsure where such self entitlement comes from with some women. Because society in general allows and encourages it.
/r/MensRights31/01/16 05:16 PM
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Well what I'm getting at is the fact that exposure to things makes you less easily offended about silly shit. Generally speaking, boys aren't as coddled as girls growing up. They get less sympathy, less concern, so it's easier for them to accept that there's nothing inherently special about them, and that having your feelings hurt is a normal part of life. Protective bubbles are a bad thing.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 04:59 AM
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These are issue we already have with transexuals, bisexuals, heterosexuals, and homosexuals. I agree that accusations would probably go up, because time and time again it's been demonstrated that on average, women are more fearful of things that men don't even blink at. Maybe this would be a good step towards desensitizing women?
/r/MensRights27/01/16 04:49 AM
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Here's an idea. In bigger places with multiple stalls, have 1 bigger unisex bathroom, then 1 or 2 single bathrooms. Inevitably, the line for the single bathrooms will be much longer. If people wanna get uppity about not going in a unisex bathroom, that's fine so long as they don't mind waiting longer for the single bathroom with the long line.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 04:44 AM
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I just don't see what the fuck the big deal about any of it is. Seeing a dick or vagina shouldn't scar a person. They're fucking body parts that everyone has one of...what's the problem? It's like the idiots who make a fuss about women breast feeding in public. She's feeding her damn child, who cares if you're offended by a nipple with some extra flesh around it?
/r/MensRights27/01/16 04:37 AM
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The bias is bullshit, but I'm glad you at least didn't end up in prison, or with charges against you. Nice job keeping a level head.
/r/MensRights25/01/16 11:30 PM
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Generally you'd see that probably, yeah. I can't help but wonder if it would've played out differently had he pressed assault charges, depending on local law.
/r/MensRights25/01/16 07:18 PM
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Exactly. TBH, regardless of the circumstances (For example, even if he was found guilty of rape), I don't really think restricting someone's freedom to have sex is sensible. But ESPECIALLY without him having been found guilty of anything in a court of law....what the ever loving fuck?
/r/MensRights24/01/16 09:55 PM
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Soooo no details about what basis the police did this on? I definitely think it's bullshit regardless, the idea of restricting someone's ability to have sex with consenting adults is absurd.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 09:32 PM
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This isn't just about him. She was also attacking the police while in custody, and she tried to flee the scene before they cuffed her. Again, info being spread about her via social media online isn't the ideal solution. But people who are shitty, violent, and try to steal people's vehicles need a harsh reminder that that isn't ok. I wish the police had taken harsher action against her, so she'd have those actions on a criminal record, for employers and the world to see. Since they didn't, simply…
/r/MensRights22/01/16 12:43 PM
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What SHOULD happen is the police should be pressing charges against her. Sadly, that didn't happen, for no real reason. What the hell are you talking about, where did being scared come from? This is just strange.
/r/MensRights22/01/16 04:55 AM
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Except that I never posted her info online. I'm just saying it's not the worst thing to happen.
/r/MensRights22/01/16 03:59 AM
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It's holding her responsible for her behaviour.
/r/MensRights22/01/16 02:22 AM
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It absolutely does. She's a grown woman, and is responsible for her own damn behaviour. This sure as hell isn't the first time she's gotten drunk, so she should know her limits.
/r/MensRights22/01/16 01:51 AM
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In all reality, the "higher" in society you are, the higher the standards you should be held to.
/r/MensRights21/01/16 08:48 PM
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I've gotten shitfaced quite a few times, blackout drunk from time to time, and I have NEVER been remotely like this girl. The more drunk I get, the more I remind myself that any crazy thoughts I have need to be double-checked before acting on them, since I know my judgment is impaired. And I don't even have a degree. If I can do that, this bitch sure as hell can.
/r/MensRights21/01/16 08:47 PM
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Unfortunately, that only applies to people that aren't selfish fucking assholes. A person like her would probably work hard to keep convincing herself that her behaviour was somehow justified.
/r/MensRights21/01/16 08:45 PM
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I look at it like police departments using the duluth model for domestic violence calls...when shitty people know they have leverage without any real risk of repercussions, they'll use it! It's a horribly stupid idea to have intentionally biased laws and policies in effect.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 11:35 PM
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I'm skeptical especially because of the fact that like I said, I've never seen this sort of argument used for any other crime. So in the absence of evidence one way or the other, the common sense approach is more sensible. If someone is willing to lie about someone committing a crime, they should be subject to the same or similar penalties to what they were willing to put on an innocent person.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 10:00 PM
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Now that's actually a reasonable argument. If it could be demonstrated that the vast majority of false rape accusations that are overruled are done so because of someone recanting, there might be a case. However, there's still the fact that there are probably a lot of false rape accusations that wouldn't have ever happened if they knew they could end up in jail for years if proven false.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 09:31 PM
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Fuck it, this isn't a bad analogy, if viewed properly. It's true, around good people in a decent society (aka trained dogs), you can dress like a slut, get wasted, pass out, (the steak) and have nothing to fear! This is an ideal world. We do not live in that world. In real life, there are some shitty, selfish people (untrained dogs), and when making life choices, we should acknowledge that all it takes is a small percentage of shitty people to be easily tempted/swayed/etc by something that SHOUL…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 08:36 PM
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Juveniles face reduced charges for every crime for obvious reasons. What's your point? A very small percentage of robberies and murders are solved, so the analogy still holds up just fine. Is there any other crime you think we shouldn't prosecute just to hopefully encourage more of the perps to come forward, or is this simply special pleading?
/r/MensRights19/01/16 08:15 PM
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That's a ridiculous justification. The whole point of making things illegal is to dissuade people from doing them for the betterment of society. What you're suggesting is akin to saying we shouldn't prosecute theft, so there's a better chance that thieves will return the property without fear of repercussions.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 07:44 PM
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Or here's a wild idea....it'll make them think twice before lying about being raped!
/r/MensRights19/01/16 02:14 PM
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That sucks for her if that's the case, and I hope she gets justice.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 05:11 AM
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Umm I'm just gonna hazard a guess that these stats heavily rely on the fact that rape is typically defined as something only men can do....
/r/MensRights13/01/16 08:19 PM
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Yeah, my ex wife would sometimes hit me, talk about cutting off/hitting me in the balls...I brushed it off at the time. It was only after getting divorced I stated to truly realize how fucked up I would feel about a guy saying that to a girl. Sometimes when I start to think I'm being too hard on women, i realize I'm only holding them to the same standards as men.
/r/MensRights13/01/16 08:17 PM
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In a sad way, it's funny how pathetic the situation is. Many feminists assert that we should never prosecute people for false rape claims, even though I have yet to see a SINGLE instance of a woman being jailed for a false rape claim that turned out to be true. On the other hand, we have story after story of men actually being attested and made fun of for being violently assaulted by women, bit apparently feminist "equality" doesn't apply there.
/r/MensRights13/01/16 07:37 PM
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Oh dang good point.... wasn't aware that was the case in all Canada, guess it isn't surprising though. So if all that was exposed was her boob, doesn't seem like that qualifies as a strip search....
/r/MensRights13/01/16 03:29 PM
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As you may have noticed, I never indicated I believed she got off easy due to being a woman. And if you're right about Canadian law, that an unwarranted search invalidates whatever the person is being arrested for, then the judge made the right judgment. It's a dumb law, that's all.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 11:06 PM
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But that has nothing to do (as far as I can tell) with finding her guilty of drunk driving. If they had somehow determined her guilt by doing an unwarranted strip search, I would support throwing out the drunk driving charges.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 09:39 PM
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I'm aware that may be the law. If that's the case, I think it's a stupid law. My point is that if they'd found anything illegal during an illegal strip search, I'm totally on board with what they find being inadmissible in court, and a lawsuit being levied against them. If the strip search had nothing to do with her being found guilty of driving drunk, I can't think of any good reason that she should be off the hook for something unrelated to the search.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 08:44 PM
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with very few exceptions
/r/MensRights12/01/16 08:28 PM
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Figured that was the case, but something something sarcasm and internet.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 08:27 PM
1

While maybe theoretically possible, good luck getting such a verdict.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 07:24 PM
2

If you are honestly advocating for segregation as a means of ending racism, there are so many things wrong with that position it's not worth discussing with you.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 07:23 PM
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We fight for equal treatment. Methods matter, not just results. Creating and perpetuating fake or unsupported information is not only generally unethical, but can damage the very cause that attempted to use it for their purposes.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 07:20 PM
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If they fucked up the search then sure, that could invalidate what they find during that search. But unless I'm missing something, it'd seem to me the search and the drunk driving charge are entirely unrelated, so she should face drunk driving charges, and then can separately file a suit against the department.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 07:07 PM
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You pulled a number out of your ass without any source. That's not what this group is about, because it's not honest, and generally not productive. We leave that to the other side.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 05:13 PM
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Yes, and it's fucking stupid and childish.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 05:09 PM
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These cases piss me off to no end. One of the biggest aspects that's fucked up is the fact that the woman who statutorily raped a kid is now being entrusted with primary care of a kid! When the fuck would you EVER see a man convicted of statutory rape getting primary/sole custody of a child?
/r/MensRights12/01/16 05:07 PM
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I wish I could agree with you, but most likely what'd happen is they'd conclude that there's no evidence of a sexual assault, but there is evidence of a physical assault, so you'd be the only one getting charged. It's a shitty situation.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 04:57 PM
1

And who made that claim? Nobody? Nice strawman.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 04:55 PM
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And who made that claim? Nobody? Nice strawman.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 04:55 PM
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Depending on how and why her boob was exposed, sure, that may be grounds for reparations from the department. But that has jack shit to do with her risking other people's lives by driving drunk.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 04:47 PM
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Once again, eerily like religion, and how with very few exceptions, U.S. politicians have to claim to be Christian to have a chance of being elected.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 04:37 PM
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We should just go back to segregated schools and facilities for blacks, then all this racism would disappear overnight. See how stupid that sounds?
/r/MensRights12/01/16 04:36 PM
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fervently atheist Wut. "Fervently anti-Santa Clause"....Hmm, now it sounds silly. Funny, that.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 05:05 AM
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Ok, I had to look up wastehertime2016 hashtags, to see how it looked....3 or so tags back there was one by a radio station saying "men start hashtag 'wastehertime2016', so women respond with 'wastehistime2016', some of their comebacks are brutal!" Now it's difficult to verify on mobile, but is this not the exact opposite of what happened?
/r/MensRights08/01/16 10:33 PM
1

Oh god this would be brutally brilliant
/r/MensRights08/01/16 10:24 PM
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This article was....really well written. They did a great job of keeping it simple and factual.
/r/MensRights06/01/16 08:19 PM
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Which is arguably the real reason why feminists think women shouldn't have the right to charge consenting men for sex.... it'd drive the societal value of sex down. Then they'd be valued less for simply having vaginas. And we can't have that, now can we?
/r/MensRights05/01/16 09:05 PM
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It'd be like people saying perjury shouldn't be a crime, since it could keep real witnesses from coming forward. It's so transparent and ridiculous for people to pretend they suddenly forgot that a lack of corroboration of one's story doesn't get them charged with perjury.... it results in a verdict of not guilty for the accused. Unless it can be proven they lied on the stand (and sometimes, despite that nothing happens to them), they don't get in trouble just because their testimony couldn't be…
/r/MensRights04/01/16 04:38 AM
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That could work against real rape victims though and cause them to withhold a real accusation, since if the rapist doesn't get convicted, they could try to frame it as a false accusation Lack of evidence is not evidence of a false accusation. If the rape charge can't be substantiated, nobody gets any jail time. The end.
/r/MensRights03/01/16 12:29 PM
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That'd work out really well for people with common names.... Besides, that's how the NSA got where it is today. Always wanting more access to more data, to the point where its biggest enemy is the shear volume of data they have, and false positives, and how to effectively sort through it, tree personnel and technology that requires, enormous funding, etc. It's easy to throw out half baked ideas, but without any practical implementation, they're useless at best, and often harmful due to being eno…
/r/MensRights13/12/15 09:27 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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