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| 1 | I'm really confused about MensLib take here.That's definitely true, but again, that isn't a reason to reject the ideals of feminism, that's a critique of the behaviour of certain people and groups- and it reflects social biases that go far beyond feminism. I'm not aware of apologies either, but I'm sure you're aware that the criticism of mainstream feminism as white biased have been popular recently, inside and outside of feminist circles. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/24 05:39 PM |
| 0 | I'm really confused about MensLib take here."Instead, people cherrypick a few aspects of reality where men do have more power than women, and pretend that these cherrypicked aspects of life are the same as "all aspects of life" and that they apply to men as a group rather than just a few individuals in that group." Your use of "people" here is a weasal word. What people? Me? If you want to know what I mean by that term, you're free to ask, but instead you just make negative assumptions, which, like other people who have replied to me, see… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/24 04:54 PM |
| 1 | I'm really confused about MensLib take here.I agree with pretty much everything you said, I don't understand why it's a "problem" though. It seems like you do oppose patriarchy, and you understand the class aspects of it, as well as how other factors need to be considered- what feminists sometimes call "intersectionality", but I don't know if people here like that word? I certainly haven't said the world was built "for men's benefit", and I don't think it was. I said patriachy is "a negative thing", I didn't say it's "a negative thing for… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/24 12:46 PM |
| 1 | I'm really confused about MensLib take here.Judging by the other replies I've had, I'd have to agree that using the term "patriarchy" in this space is unproductive, as I've just got a load of replies arguing about definitions. I'm not using the word patriarchy to agree with any conventional modern feminist language, I'm using it because I believe it's accurate. What is a bit disappointing in this "left wing" space is how all the replies go on about the gender of the term, and no one seems to be picking up on the power implications, instea… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/24 11:28 AM |
| 4 | I'm really confused about MensLib take here."helping men doesnt inherently help women" I definitely disagree with this. It's essentially impossible for most of us to live a life without encountering the opposite sex. If you help other people, you make them happier, less stressed, more productive, that clearly benefits you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/24 10:22 PM |
| -9 | I'm really confused about MensLib take here."Patriarchy, in it's name, refers to men, and it is linked with blaming mainly men as a class for the existence of those negative things that exist in our current society." You're missing the point a bit there. It isn't referring to "men" but "patriarchs"- men who have power over others, in the mold of the Roman paterfamilias. Considering this is supposed to be a "left wing" sub, I'd hope that would be an important distinction. You've demonstrated my point about why I don't feel this a space I c… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/24 10:08 PM |
| -2 | I'm really confused about MensLib take here.In my opinion, feminism boils down to two points- Recognising that patriachy exists and Being of the opinion that this is a negative thing that we need to move away from I would say I believe in both of those points, so strictly speaking I would say I'm a feminist, though I don't choose to identify myself as such. I do believe in what I consider to be taking a feminist approach in life, particularly to parenting, because I think the way gender is reinforced in children can be harmful to both boy… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/24 09:18 PM |
| 5 | I'm really confused about MensLib take here."I think you should share here to balance that." I appreciate that, but I feel like sometimes political opinions are so divergent you can't have a productive discussion. Looking at the top comments on this thread, it isn't so much "here is a criticism of a particular thing that a feminist has said/done", than "feminism is an inherently bad thing". | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/24 08:25 PM |
| 23 | I'm really confused about MensLib take here.There was an article about South Korean feminists mocking their males' supposedly small penises, I called this out as racist and sexist and got banned for being anti feminist. I was against those feminists, but I'm not anti feminism. But this sub feels too anti feminist for me. I've never really been able to find a home for these issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/24 06:53 PM |
| 7 | Ladies, why don’t you ask men out as much as men ask women out?You are assuming that this hypothetical guy is passive, appeasing and shy. Maybe he just hasn't really noticed you? When you do the approaching, the person in question might not instantly think you're highly desirable. You show attractiveness through other qualities. Very conventionally attractive men do get approached, or at least semi approached, quite regualarly (no, I'm not talking from first hand experience sadly). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/19 05:44 PM |
| 3 | Ladies, why don’t you ask men out as much as men ask women out?Touche. But I think you know what I mean, someone who could make you very fulfilled over your lifetime. That's assuming you want a relationship. If you're just looking to get laid, more power to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/19 05:34 PM |
| 6 | Ladies, why don’t you ask men out as much as men ask women out?It isn't, but at the same time you're limiting yourself to only guys who approach you, whereas if you're willing to approach other people, you're taking control of that situation. You might be missing out on the perfect guy for you, because you're unwilling to take that step. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/19 05:26 PM |
| 3 | Ladies, why don’t you ask men out as much as men ask women out?It took me years to be just about confident to approach women. No way would I have done that if I didn't have to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/19 05:19 PM |
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