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False Accusationmarinatedart/r/MensRights20/10/19 06:31 AM
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marinatedart/r/MensRights16/09/19 11:26 AM
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Feminismmarinatedart/r/MensRights22/09/19 11:58 AM
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Social Issuesmarinatedart/r/MensRights20/10/19 07:04 AM
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DISCUSSIONmarinatedart/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 02:23 AM
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Purgemarinatedart/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 06:07 AM
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marinatedart/r/MGTOW218/10/19 07:05 AM
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Feminismmarinatedart/r/MensRights18/10/19 05:10 AM
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marinatedart/r/MensRights19/09/19 08:38 AM
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marinatedart/r/MGTOW16/09/19 10:27 AM
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Social Issuesmarinatedart/r/MensRights19/09/19 07:35 AM
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The incels are "toxic" but that needs to be viewed in context of the treatment they get. They live in a very different world from everybody else. (Most of them are from the US, Japan, some parts of Europe) and they are usually very ugly in society's standards (they used to have an incel selfies subreddit but not sure if it's still up). Feminists have put them down so much that it makes them feel even uglier. Chads and mgtow treat them like they're just crybabies, which is unfair because those gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 11:53 AM
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We choose our environment and peers at the these later stages in our life. Good point.
/r/MensRights20/10/19 06:42 PM
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I feel very sad for your pain. I really hope you're feeling a lot better now. It may help to verbally repeat truths about yourself several times everyday. It may sound stupid or pointless, but the repetition really helps. Things like: "None of it was my fault. I matter. I'm not dumb, I'm not useless, I'm not weird. People who treat me badly don't have a say in what I think of myself. I deserve to be happy. I feel sad now but can feel better everyday." Hope this helps. You absolutely deserve to b…
/r/MensRights20/10/19 06:42 PM
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I’m not sure I understand your idea of “actual nice guys” as it’s the more “beta” males, in my experience, that are far less confident and more willing to be creepy/entitled to women’s time/rapey. To over obsess over women and be naive. Well, that's a separate topic. But definitely worth looking into. I am curious tho as to why that is your experience. According to mine, nice guys (as in men who truly respect women and make good husband material) come in all shapes and forms, although usually as…
/r/MensRights20/10/19 05:17 PM
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A snippet of rape trauma symptoms that I got from wiki here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_trauma_syndrome. My take on it tho based on this is that the girl is faking or blaming her bad decisions on the men she gravitates towards. Because real raped women are more likely to go away from similar trauma/revictimized. I can vouch for that. Real rape trauma is way more intense. But to me, according to her profile, u/trettles is perfectly fine but a drama queen. Perhaps all other fakers are sim…
/r/MensRights20/10/19 05:07 PM
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You misunderstand my intentions. I am, in fact, an actual survivor of rape by my biological father when I was 4. Safe to say that I WASN'T asking for it. And ever since then I have been very cautious and very fearsome of possible similar situations. Many other women who were also truly raped experience the same fate. It basically ruined my life but also granted me sharper instincts on people's actions, for which I am grateful. Psychiatrists even discovered that children who were abused can read …
/r/MensRights20/10/19 01:26 PM
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Gotta score them victim points at the cost of sanity. Very understandable but also very painful to do. :-/
/r/MensRights20/10/19 12:57 PM
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You can check her bio u/trettles and please tell me if I'm just imagining things.
/r/MensRights20/10/19 12:15 PM
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Who you are and you aren't currently dating is a relative thing. She may believe that she isn't dating any of them, but I'm willing to bet that she flirted with all of them. Then the men she puts around her respond this way and suddenly it's misogyny? Either this girl is actually into all that and finds it kinky, or she plainly enjoys feeling like a victim.
/r/MensRights20/10/19 12:13 PM
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Reiterating my edit in case you didn't catch it. EDIT: I truly respect you as a person and I suggest you withhold your judgments on anything, stop overanalyzing everything with biased books, subreddits, and articles and just open your eyes and observe what's actually happening. If you really believe all you think is true, then you shouldn't be afraid to do this in the first place. Otherwise, enjoy your bubble! Not being civil and personal insults are against the ppd sub rules FYI. Next time I wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 11:49 AM
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I also want true equality for ALL humans. And for instances wherein women are truly being abused, I am all for them getting proper justice. But feminists like you are getting in the way of all that with your stupid noise. You all think you're helping when you're really not. You all claim to be supportive of all other women, but I bet after you all get your revenge and gain all the power (which I actually truly believe will happen in the future, unfortunately) I bet you'll all transition into fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 11:22 AM
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They will say that they're for equality if it makes them win the argument, and then say they're NOT for equality if it makes them win another argument. Collectively though in r/femaledatingstrategy they do say that they're NOT for equality because their current stance is to get as much as they can from men because "men owe them". But they will fluctuate their stance wherever they see fit. In truth, all evil feminists have the same mindset. They don't care about equality or the lack thereof. They…
/r/MensRights20/10/19 11:04 AM
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I'm not complaining about the result. Actually, I always expect to get banned and downvoted. If we give up tho then we let them win, right?
/r/MensRights20/10/19 09:32 AM
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Thanks for the sympathies. :) I highly doubt tho this will end soon. I believe that this could get a whole lot worse.
/r/MensRights20/10/19 09:31 AM
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I don't need to debate there. You obviously want to just throw me to a pack of wolves. But I'm also a woman and so I know, from experience, that it's pointless. They've already made up their minds so don't care for discussion at all i.e. circle jerk. Feminists like you have already made up their minds: We want to get guy for money and status. Gains money and status. We want to get a guy with even higher SMV for more money and status. And higher, and higher. Eventually falls into a well-deserved …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 09:27 AM
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Whatever. You are just trying to distract everyone from the truth because you're a feminist who benefits from the world slowly giving men less and less power. You don't actually care about what's happening. You're just a self-righteous user.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 09:15 AM
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Exactly! And it is also infuriating that when it's about men being bad because they're unfair and use them for sex yada yada yada, suddenly they're for equality. They don't stand for anything. They just simply want to be better than men in, quite honestly, a creepy stalker kind of way.
/r/MensRights20/10/19 07:39 AM
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I respectfully disagree. Women who too often fall into such circumstances invite them. They constantly reject actual nice guys and constantly look for the one asshole in the room. Then they put themselves in a situation wherein they're left alone with that asshole who, of course, sense such girls' reciprocation and take advantage of it. That's why they end up believing that all men are psycho rapists. If such women concentrated on actual nice guys, then their world of how the majority of men tru…
/r/MensRights20/10/19 07:14 AM
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That's basically what I was trying to do here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/djjt5v/i_got_to_infiltrate_2_opposing_feminism/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share in case anyone here is interested. Cool if none are. Note: I am aware of what the MGTOW 2 community is (and how they differ from MGTOW 1). I intentionally posted that expecting to get banned, for the sake of the truth. Keep up the good work, guys.
/r/MensRights19/10/19 09:41 AM
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Yeah, big words definitely make you smarter lol. Way to say that you don't know anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 07:15 PM
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Why don't you educate me then? Cos you're so omniscient.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 06:29 PM
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Nope, that's basically a good description of what a woman should be in a nutshell. It would be weird if you wanted a woman to be like a man, as a heterosexual man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 03:08 PM
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There is no need for a whole history book to describe what is happening today. It is what it is if you're willing to see it. (A compilation of my answers to other comments similar to yours): It is about being ugly and envying the pretty girl and wanting to destroy them and the men who want them. It was never about equality. It's obvious what the motivation is. A good person who is ugly will just seek beauty and happiness on their own. An evil person who is ugly will seek to ruin things for every…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 12:25 PM
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I'm not looking down on you, honest. Also, I'm sure I could've explained all of this better. But you're clearly projecting here. Cos I get it, you're defense mechanism is to hate all women. Since I'm a woman, you choose to block-out anything I say to protect yourself because most women are incredibly manipulative.
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 11:07 AM
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Yup I have. They're impossible to avoid. My reply that I also said to another comment: It is about being ugly and envying the pretty girl and wanting to destroy them and the men who want them. It was never about equality. It's obvious what the motivation is. A good person who is ugly will just seek beauty and happiness on their own. An evil person who is ugly will seek to ruin things for everyone else. I'm seeing now, with how the evil ugly women are defending their position, it's obvious that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 10:56 AM
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I would've explained more, but dang reddit allows either just an image or just text. I ain't making an imgur accoubt just for this. But anyway, here's my comment to someone that I think answers yours: I didn't foresee that it would be so unclear. That's my bad... I posted the thing on the left of the image in red pill women. Then also posted another thing in pink pill as shown on the right side of the image. The red pill women got angry as hell and kept downvoting but still kept it up for a day.…
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 10:38 AM
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All of that was from things lost in translation. But you've obviously made-up your mind. So I won't bother anymore reasoning with you. But I am truly sad for your sake if women have fucked you up so much that you're just in a blind rage now.
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 10:28 AM
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I didn't mean that ALL feminists are unattractive. I meant the majority are. But the truth about Stacys as shown here https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/c7lbz6/girlswomen_who_are_or_were_considered_the_most/ prove that most feminists are indeed sourgraping because of looks.
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 10:19 AM
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Women can't help but depend on men. That is biology due to evolution, for the purpose of keeping our species alive. Feminists are sourgraping because PUA came along. PUA came along because women were the original PUA, especially starting in the 1960's since the birth control pill. That gave them the power to social climb and keep aiming for higher and higher men. Women hated having a taste of their own medicine and are now sourgraping by trying to find a way to delude themselves that they can fi…
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 10:15 AM
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Absolutely true! More of that on that in this old post: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/c7lbz6/girlswomen_who_are_or_were_considered_the_most/
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 10:07 AM
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The idea that only ugly women support equality (and out of jealousy at that) is ridiculous, stupid and utterly reductionistic. It is solely about being ugly i.e. not pretty enough. No matter what they say - that they want equality, or more for women, or to be completely away from men, or to make it about being stronger/smarter/richer/happier rather than beautiful is all a ruse. It's a ruse because it always keeps going back to looks and how men sexualize them yada yada. If you don't see that, th…
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 10:06 AM
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Yup, it's true they are like that. But they're actually a mutated form of feminists. They want to be arrogant and claim they're most woke and above modern feminism. But really they still want to dominate men. Their end goal is to use lookism to get there. Also, it is essential to their goal that they pretend that they are pro masculine dominance. So, I guess in a way, they're technically smarter than pink pill. However, that also makes them more dangerous.
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 09:07 AM
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I like debating to find the truth. If you don't like it, then you basically go into reddit just to circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 09:03 AM
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Right, misandry. Thanks! :) I didn't even know pinkpill considered them enemies. Yup, apparently they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:48 AM
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Here we go again. Someone says something that speaks even a little against modern feminism (not actual equality among human beings btw, mind you). Whenever any form of feminist gets wind of it, they say it's evil without even understanding it, just like you saying I didnt read at all. But then these feminists want to believe that they're more woke than everybody else while keeping themselves in a bubble. And then try to counter any truth about them by distracting the discussion into another dire…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:45 AM
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I'm not sure if the movie will be that long.
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 08:39 AM
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Hi u/reneeamelia. Yup, your comment had the most upvotes if I remember. I also remember replying to you with: Replace the word "ugly" in my post with "lazy". My point still stands true. ☺ And then followed-up with a final edit on my post. You might not have seen it though since mods removed my post. The post edit is as follows: Apparently, from the responses, I guess it is about being ugly and envying the pretty girl and wanting to destroy them and the men who want them. It was never about equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:37 AM
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I didn't foresee that it would be so unclear. That's my bad... I posted the thing on the left of the image in red pill women. Then also posted another thing in pink pill as shown on the right side of the image. The red pill women got angry as hell and kept downvoting but still kept it up for a day. But the pink pill women liked my post and kept upvoting until last minute then eventually banned me. Now the pink pill subreddit has a new post about how I "infiltrated" them as a red pill woman, as s…
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 08:29 AM
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I didn't foresee that it would be so unclear. That's my bad... I posted the thing on the left of the image in red pill women. Then also posted another thing in pink pill as shown on the right side of the image. The red pill women got angry as hell and kept downvoting but still kept it up for a day. But the pink pill women liked my post and kept upvoting until last minute then eventually banned me. Now the pink pill subreddit has a new post about how I "infiltrated" them as a red pill woman, as s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 08:23 AM
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My reply to another comment that I think answers yours: Although I fully understand that men should go their own way because they're really being injusticed by women today. But seeing as how MGTOW 1 subreddit goes, they really try to go their own way but still can't help but think about women cos they're so unfair and basically make their lives unnecessarily miserable everyday. Not thinking of women is inevitable, just as women thinking of men is inevitable. So rather, I think we should all cont…
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 08:12 AM
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That’s cool that you want real equality and all, but this is really a terrible place to say that. I disagree. Although I fully understand that men should go their own way because they're really being injusticed by women today. But seeing as how MGTOW 1 subreddit goes, they really try to go their own way but still can't help but think about women cos they're so unfair and basically make their lives unnecessarily miserable everyday. Not thinking of women is inevitable, just as women thinking of me…
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 08:10 AM
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I didn't foresee that it would be so unclear. That's my bad. Anyway, I posted the thing on the left of the image in red pill women. Then also posting another thing in pink pill as shown on the right side of the image. The red pill women got angry as hell and kept downvoting but still kept it up for a day. But the pink pill women liked my post and kept upvoting until last minute then eventually banned me. Now the pink pill subreddit has a new post about how I "infiltrated" them as a red pill woma…
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 07:58 AM
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Yup, they got pretty mad but for kept my posts up for several hours for some reason. Their safe space is really dumb, really ignorant, and full of it while still wanting to be on their high horse of being the "fairer sex" (in terms of both physique and politics).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 07:48 AM
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I don't even understand their divisions, it doesn't make sense. I don't get the difference of red pill women, pink pill women, gender critical, and trufemcel. They all sound the same to me when I perused their wall. Just women who want a female equivalent of misogyny.
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 07:43 AM
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I don't mind, man. Go your own way! I support you! :)
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 07:34 AM
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Fine by me. Downvote me then, I don't mind :) Although if you know how to read, my title clearly states that I'm not a feminist.
/r/MGTOW218/10/19 07:27 AM
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Do you mean the headers of the subreddit posts in the image? Cos yeah, I completely with agree them, cos they're my posts lol :p for which I got banned later as shown here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkpillFeminism/comments/djcytq/we_got_infiltrated_by_rpw_and_nobody_noticed/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Oopsie if all this was a little unclear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 07:07 AM
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Shower me with downvotes please :) It's purge week!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 06:54 AM
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I don't mind getting an F for grammar. But many posts in reddit are guilty of low effort...Anyway here's the edit if you're still interested: Apparently, from the responses, I guess it is about being ugly and envying the pretty girl and wanting to destroy them and the men who want them. It was never about equality. It's obvious what the motivation is. A good person who is ugly will just seek beauty and happiness on their own. An evil person who is ugly will seek to ruin things for everyone else.…
/r/RedPillWomen17/10/19 08:49 PM
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Replace the word "ugly" in my post with "lazy". My point still stands true. ☺
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 08:37 PM
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I'm literally inviting them, if it weren't obvious by now. :)
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:47 PM
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I responded to you with my post edit.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:46 PM
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I responded to you with my post edit.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:46 PM
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I responded to you with my post edit.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:46 PM
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Those are not the real feminists. They just want to be cool lol
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:46 PM
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I responded to you with my post edit.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:45 PM
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I responded to you with my post edit.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:45 PM
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I responded to you with my post edit.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:44 PM
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I responded to you with my post edit.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:44 PM
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I responded to you with my post edit.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:42 PM
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I responded to you with my post edit.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:42 PM
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You are referencing exemptions. Those have nothing to do with it. But thank you for admitting that it's about being ugly. All this hatred is being stemmed from envy, not jealousy. Jealousy is being afraid of losing something that belongs to you. Envy is a feeling of discontented or resentful longing aroused by someone else's possessions, qualities, or luck. Feminists are not being attacked. In fact, today is the height of women getting what they want no matter how immoral it is.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:27 PM
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Beauty is not subjective. That's why humans come to similar conclusions as to what is beautiful.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 07:26 PM
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Very well put.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 04:33 PM
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It's definitely true of women wanting more. It all trickles from Eve wanting to be just like God. Or as the proverb goes "Human desires are like the world of the dead - there is always room for more." I don't think this has simply been around for longer than several decades. I think the real game changer was a different kind of pill - contraceptives, which was first available in the 60's.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 04:26 PM
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Of course I knew all of this since way back. Just now I have reddit and those links. Anyway, I think redpill men are focusing on just the injustices feminists do, but those are technically just the symptoms. They often forget the thing that caused the disease in the first place (basically theorizied in my post), which should actually be the focus of redpillmen more often. Did men make beauty so important first or did women? I think that's besides the point. The point is insecurities from "beauty…
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 01:40 PM
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Almost. I think feminism is a result of certain women who don't get what they want, whether it be praise, money, social acceptance, etc. And they project the frustration of not getting those things onto "beautiful" women. I'm not saying beauty is either bad or good. That's besides the point. Rather, my point is that beauty is the cataclyst to feminism. Evolution, biology, and just plain survival makes it inescapable for women to care about beauty. So maybe that's why you think it directly correl…
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 04:53 AM
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What part exactly is not classy?
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 04:40 AM
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Please give my post a chance. But if you don't want to, then don't. No one is forcing you. I'm not just disagreeing with anyone who disagrees with me. I clearly state my reasons with elaborations.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 04:35 AM
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I'm not being hostile. I'm very honestly wanting to discuss. But everyone here is wasting my time and completely brushing off my post completely. So much for reddit being open to discussion.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 04:28 AM
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If you don't want to read my post, then don't bother commenting. This is for the purpose for discussion. I'm not forcing any "homework" on you.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 04:20 AM
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People love to stand for something for no reason, it gives them a purpose and meaning. It’s all modes of control. Yup, you're onto something there. I do not believe the great majority of people on any side have any broadly coherent grasp on objective truth or want to. Also something. Billions of people willingly staring at a little screen for hours on end every day (not implying you and I am guilty of this) seems a lot like moths to a flame 🔥. Okay, now here's something you're missing: If people…
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 04:13 AM
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It would've been more helpful to reference the link you cited for the benefit of discussion. But your OC gives the impression that my post is completely unworthy of discussion, which is unfair without any real discussion. Otherwise, what's the point of reddit at all? Please add more meat and citation regarding the link you added. I'm more than willing to discuss that with you.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 04:05 AM
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You're contradicting yourself. First you say my links are anecdotal (which they aren't because each have many many comments). But then you say this... Women who see themselves as unattractive and are unable to increase their attractiveness or reputation will seek to destroy the reputation and attractiveness of other women to gain more value in the sexual marketplace. ...which was EXACTLY point! My post just offends you. But you don't have real input but want to come-off as an intellectual and ju…
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 03:31 AM
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You can't just sum-up all these movements to some mental disability. People don't just stand for something for no reason, or like a dummy moth to a flame looking for attention. What's happening is way deeper than that.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/19 02:52 AM
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Not compared to paying for a child that isn't even yours. And a woman who is just using him.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 08:58 AM
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Who is she, like, she has obviously faked her real personality for over a decade. -------> This
/r/MensRights19/09/19 08:47 AM
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That is so sad in so many levels :(
/r/MensRights19/09/19 08:41 AM
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They argue about the cost and the welfare of the child, but the cost balloons the later in life this happens. Amen!
/r/MensRights19/09/19 07:57 AM
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It is sad. Either we let this problem be and many men and children's life possibly ruined. Or we don't and paternity testing is more normalized, and the problem is replaced by government and others abusing the system exponentially.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 06:41 AM
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Very good questions. SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER cos I don't know :-/
/r/MensRights19/09/19 05:46 AM
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I don't really care as long as the test doesn't hurt the baby at all. You can do the test pre birth now with no harm to the child. So whatever, they take a ton of blood anyway just lump it in with the other tests. You're right. (Disregarding the financial side though) It doesn't take much pain and effort.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 05:44 AM
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Hes got no car, no savings, a tiny apt and three kids who hate him who he hasn't seen in about 15 years. Wow, so child support is slavery...
/r/MensRights19/09/19 05:09 AM
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After all knowing the true parents can help with possible medical issues down the line among other things. Very important too.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 04:41 AM
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This literally brought tears to my eyes! Especially this part: But, after they had given their father the gift they bought for him, they disappeared in to the older boy's bedroom. A moment later, they came out and gave me my own father's day card and gift. I believe that God fills Heaven with people like you! :')
/r/MensRights19/09/19 01:46 AM
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Yes, let's not forget that men should also be responsible. Be more careful of the women you sleep with. Don't risk your entire future (as well as children's) for a one-night stand or sleeping with someone you can't trust 100%.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 01:43 AM
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Ironically, you're a perfect example of someone who's willing to support someone else's child. It's very nice to hear your story... I guess that's why you worry so much that this will be an issue for them in the future. Your sons are very lucky to have you both as their parents! :')
/r/MensRights19/09/19 01:21 AM
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“He is a terrible father. He doesn’t want any of you. Look how he treated your little sibling.” Very common scenario.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 01:00 AM
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Sounds like your fear for your sons is stemming from a personal experience :-/ Not meaning to offend you at all btw. Totally agree with you.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:59 AM
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I don't agree with the degree of acceptance to this problem, but I do understand where you're coming from. Many men find-out somehow that the child they thought was theirs for many years suddenly is discovered as not their child. Obviously, a decent person would not hold that against the child they've loved all those years, just because of the infidelity of his wife/partner.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:53 AM
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It's also illegal in France to not give equal chunk of inheritance when parent dies to all your children.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:50 AM
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Perhaps parents should pay equally. Even if that's unfair on the man for a few cases, that's much better than paying for a child's 18 or so years that they aren't even sure is theirs. If parents can't even pay for the paternity test, chances are they will have greater difficulty supporting the child at all. This could be incentive for people to practice better family planning, which benefits literally everyone. Lowers overpopulation too.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:47 AM
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That is plain awful! What the hell? I may be assuming things, but it actually feels pretty fishy that suddenly you were asked to sign that form. Atleast bring this up months before the child is born!
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:42 AM
3

This reminds me of the beauty of Lepcha people :p For them, polygamy is the norm. So they see all the children of their tribe as everybody's children. They seem to be more civilized than us on this issue.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:38 AM
5

I feel you! It's very disturbing that all men today will feel this uncertainty no matter how they try to ignore it. In today's culture, women are so promiscuous at an alarming rate over the years. STDs are even rising. (That's a connected big issue as well) Honestly, I think men might prefer more sophisticated dating apps and opt for no pre-marital sex. Especially with a girl they really like. Also legalize prostitution because prostitutes test for stds regularly and therefore are less risk heal…
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:35 AM
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I'm not so sure about that. That sounds like a panic solution. This can't be fail-safe today with corrupt govt., corrupt dna tester companies, sneaky lawyers, etc. But this is something that will be a big problem in the future, so should be discussed at length by the government, and given funding to scientific research for a more fail-safe dna testing procedure. Polygamy will very possibly get even more rampant over the years.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:29 AM
5

Very true. Hopefully in the future a more specific form of paternity will be available. This might be more of a dream for the next generation.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:25 AM
1

Wow, that is horrifying! :( I guess this issue could very well be more about the kids than the parents.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:23 AM
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It is a statistical estimation. Here's the link about it: https://mensrights.com/mandatory-dna-testing/
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:21 AM
3

How so?
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:20 AM
1

Exactly! But apparently, from talking to the others, put to light that it's not that simple.
/r/MensRights19/09/19 12:20 AM
6

Lie detectors aren't 100% accurate. They actually just indicate heightened stress, which could mean many things. Sadly, this problem is so overlooked and misinformed. But it is so easy for women nowadays to send men to prison without conclusive proof. This is all becoming a big mess, now even more just because of the popularity of feminism.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 11:45 PM
1

I agree. I think, paradoxically, can strengthen relationships. Also, if men and women can't afford a paternity test, then this could protect a child being born at a time that he/she can't be afforded. (With a few exceptions, like unexpected pregnancies of unwealthy people) This is just being more responsible overall.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 11:22 PM
2

You make a very good point! That is definitely a head scratcher.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 11:12 PM
3

Sad but true. Not all of them, not 100%. But fucking pretty true.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 11:12 PM
1

So some men have actually lost custody of their real kid? :(
/r/MensRights18/09/19 11:04 PM
12

Wow! Thanks for sharing that. This seems to be an issue from a lot of different angles, not just financial.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 11:02 PM
2

Don't give up. We can crosspost this everywhere. More awareness is always a powerful thing. Social media is a tool we can all abuse.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 10:37 PM
6

Amen! It's not so much an accusation, but a way to safeguard trust in people's marriage. Otherwise, it's even possible in the future that men can escape child support that they actually should pay for. Not sure exactly how cause I'm not a lawyer, but crazy things like that have happened in court.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 10:35 PM
6

I think it will actually be very helpful in appeasing any possible future doubts among couples. Of any cheating wives AND husbands. Polygamy is so rampant nowadays, that we have to accept the possibility that this will be a bigger problem in the future. We can normalize this now, and nip it in the bud. Of course, laws should be more planned. Like not literally everyone has to take this. There should be a few exceptions I think.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 10:33 PM
6

That is very disconcerting. But giving this up all together just because of those risks isn't good either. Governments and scientists should find a solution to prevent said risks.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 10:29 PM
4

It is a statistical estimation. Here's the link about it: https://mensrights.com/mandatory-dna-testing/
/r/MensRights18/09/19 10:27 PM
7

Totally agree! If a prenup is legal, this should be too.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 10:25 PM
1

True. That can even be useful to record both the men who also sleep around (not just the women). Then everyone will be forced to account for their actions.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 10:25 PM
40

Women don't want this because a lot of them will be proven guilty. And so the government doesn't care about this because it will displease women and cause trouble for them.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 10:16 PM
77

What?!?!!
/r/MensRights18/09/19 05:58 PM
26

Let's take a tally by basing it on the post upvotes.
/r/MensRights18/09/19 04:52 PM
3

Know what's sad, you're all fighting, yet you're all correct! Men's Right's Advocates shouldn't stop diving deeper on how bad women are, and Incels should start fixing the problem instead of thinking it's unsolvable. Instead, comments here fall into two categories: 1) "This comment shouldn't even be here! We're only for solutions, not women hating!" 2) "Women suck, yeah!" Can't both mindsets exist at the same time in one's head? Because you can't solve the problem unless you see everything. You …
/r/MensRights16/09/19 06:42 PM
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