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Nah, men these days do way more to comfort women than vice versa. That's why men are leaving dating in droves, because too many women bring nothing but stress or worse to the table. If it were true that women are more comforting then men would not be avoiding even trying to date women in historically unprecedented numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 09:11 PM
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This is basically saying: managing your wife's emotions is bad here's how you SHOULD manage her emotions (self delusion via 'abundance mindset')
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 08:51 PM
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Lol, no. Men don't get into relationships to delegate their emotional management to their partner, they're not women. They also don't tend to pursue friendships with women because of their thoughtfulness or ability to comfort them, that would be pretty backwards logic for a man. A man should be capable of achieving peace by himself, and all his close relations have to do to stay close is not fuck up that peace too much. If a man bonds with someone or seeks to bond with someone it is usually beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:26 PM
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Women lie, deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 08:15 AM
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I trust plenty of men lol, you are just too hateful to function like a normal adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 08:15 AM
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Ah, the classic Shrodinger's Bigot defense. "I wasn't projecting bitter hate onto others, it was just a joooke!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:08 AM
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So you don't have any male friends who respect themselves? I guess healthy and mentally sound men scare you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:01 AM
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Our conscience is irrelevant, a woman's lie is just as dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:00 AM
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What hate? He just praised men. That's "hate" to you, praising men? Sheesh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 04:59 AM
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It’s also why men love being in relationships with women (platonic, romantic or otherwise). It’s because more women than men tend to be “comforting” in that way. Actually, growing numbers of men (especially younger men) are doing the opposite of that lately. Probably because the women they have experienced are not comforting, but alienating and unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 04:54 AM
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Generally speaking, women are more abusive of men. Oh and I actually have more than anecdotes to back it up. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1854883/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:44 PM
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Then there's the women's KKK: https://daily.jstor.org/a-brief-history-of-the-womens-kkk/ Women throughout American history and through to this day continue to use ambient racial and sexual resentments against men they want to control. None of this is new. Sorry, but ladies are not angels of perfect nonviolent virtue. 70% of non-reciprocal IPV is done by women, no doubt thanks to the Duluth Model pioneered by feminists. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1854883/ The premise that women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:40 PM
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In far fewer quantites they were. 'Defective' men were also used as human test subjects for many of the cosmetic and medical products women use to this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:32 PM
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Funny how that never comes up in these posts with so many WHITE FEMINISTS, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:28 PM
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It's committed violence lol, you asked for examples of violence and the celebration of it. The Duluth Model is another example of feminist violence. I can do this all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:15 PM
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And keep my life and brain? Totally. But I'd also probably murder him eventually too, admittedly. How often was that happening though? Let's see some evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:10 PM
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I already gave it to you in a different comment, Ms Obtuse. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/FDTzCRQonb
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 05:09 PM
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And for the same period of history men were beaten, imprisoned, lobotomized, and executed for refusing their assigned gender role. I'd take the women's role over that, no hesitation or second thought about it. And of course it fucking mattered what class you were in. You would choose ruling class every time, anything else is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 05:08 PM
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Worse. Learn the history of your own movement and you won't be so easily refuted. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 05:06 PM
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Human beings who are finished with accepting your bullshit. Deal with it or don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:40 PM
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When you refuse to live in reality, no one has to indulge your delusions. You actively lie to disqualify the evidence already presented, so we all know you are asking in bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:40 PM
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Yes, obviously. Like holy shit how naive are you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:38 PM
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Neither is feminism, it is just the tool the ruling class uses to divide the working class.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:37 PM
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I’ll never understand why people (men here) completely overthink feminism That's a dishonest way to describe observing how feminists behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:36 PM
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Historically the ruling class is the oppressor, and that ruling class is composed of men and women. Patriarchy was used to divide and conquer the working class by the ruling class oppressors, because patriarchy oppressed men too. Men who defied the gender role assigned to them were fucking thrown in prison, lobotomized, or executed. By the ruling class. This is why the feminist framing of patriarchy is a misandrist lie that supports the still extant ruling class. Feminism is now the ruling class…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:28 PM
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They're too busy leading the charge in drowning their own children in bathtubs 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 05:59 AM
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Sure jan, you're such a good writer. Except for all the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:19 AM
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You can just admit you don't know what either are. You already have revealed that anyway lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:59 PM
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Leadership requires leading others lmao Where's the 'leadership' in taking the initiative to poop? Where is the 'leadership' in flopping your first move with an incoherent cue only you are aware of? Where is the 'leadership' in asserting explicitly incorrect definitions of terms are valid? Nowhere, nowhere, and nowhere. Plenty of born patsies have initiative. It takes the earned deference of others to be a leader, won through self sacrifice and success. It's true no one can be a leader without b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:57 PM
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No, I just happen to write circles around you in perfectly coherent English purely by coincidental accident. 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:52 PM
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Because emotional self management is a critically important skill set, especially for men. Men rarely, if ever, get the grace women do for expressing their feelings, so it is crucial for men to learn how to process them on their own. There is a reason why it has stuck around for thousands of years, it's because it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:50 PM
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The enemy must be portrayed as impossibly powerful and threatening while also contemptibly incompetent, or else the dehumanization doesn't stick. It is very funny when done so poorly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:48 PM
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Even in defiant spite you can't make up your mind, lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:31 PM
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We're perfectly happy, it's women who cannot assert themselves who seem miserable. Hence our concern for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:30 PM
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Sounds like they are irrelevant to OP's post then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:29 PM
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Because you're the one derailing about conservatives, and OP is not, so the question is irrelevant to OP but perfectly relevant to you. Never debated before? First time?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:28 PM
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Because love with a woman who stands up for herself because she believes in herself is better than an insecure trainwreck. Even rp guys know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:27 PM
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90% of conservative men and terps claim that women who make the first move are desperate and boxing above their weight. Caring about what those tapeworms think is a bold move, let's see how that plays out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:24 PM
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What 'lead'? Taking initiative =/= leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:23 PM
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Almost like only men care about men's needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:22 PM
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Where did OP use the words "submissive" or "assertive"? Just derailing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:21 PM
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Because without sympathizing with men's lack of choice, men will never sympathize with your's either. If you want actual protection for your right to choose, men need to have an equivalent right to choose. Otherwise they have no reason to set themselves on fire for your unilateral benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:35 PM
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I raised multiple kids through college and I believe paper abortions are just as necessary as the medical kind. In fact, I don't see how anyone can guarantee abortion rights to women in America without providing paper abortions to men. Untl that happens men are essentially sacrificing their own legal autonomy on whether or not to be a parent for no gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:48 PM
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Your reaction to me explaining that men are quitting dating women due to how damaging women's treatment of men has been lately was to write over a dozen small paragraphs of misandrist screed lol, most of it blaming men for irrelevant stereotypes you brought up all by yourself. Your first comment in this thread explicitly blames men for having any emotional reaction to women's mistreatment OR rejection of them, as well as projects a sex obsessed mindset onto men and blames them for a mindset you …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:30 PM
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Nah, they work pretty good if you have a big dick which most guys don’t. Wrong, lol. For most women they work worse if you have a big dick. Just think it through using your spatial reasoning. Take missionary for example. In regular sex the man is penetrating parallel to her spine, in porn he has to do it at an awkward angle so the camera can get a good look. That means driving into the sides of her walls, which can be uncomfortable or even painful with big dicks. If the dick happens to be curved…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:14 PM
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No, lol. Why tf would I? It helps us both learn what she likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:08 PM
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The difference is women do figure men out. That's a funny way of saying "Men do not actively prevent their partners from understanding them". 'Figuring a guy out' is just listening as he tells how to get him off. There is nothing to 'figure out' for the vast majority of men! The big issue imho is that so few women figure themselves out, so when a guy asks a direct question on how to please them they have nothing to say. The next hurdle after that are women who hinge their satisfaction on not hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:57 PM
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Ok, so women in some states now have the same reproductive rights as men. Oh no. There are still plenty of states where women have more. 🤷‍♂️ None of this proves that 'manoshere' bs is relevant. The entire manosphere combined doesn't come close to a tenth of Beyoncé or Taylor Swift fans seperately. Maybe the Federalists, the organization/ideology responsible for stacking the courts in favor of religious conservativism, is the decisive cause of this shift in American law? No, it must be the tiny …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:24 PM
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Sure it's being accountable, but I'm married lol Correct, no one owes anyone their company, which is why blaming men for seeking safety away from women is pretty pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 03:47 PM
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Apparently, because I am a big scary man, I will never be a completely safe choice anyway. So I don't bother with picking a side, women are going to categorize me arbitrarily anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 03:44 PM
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You have no idea if that is men doing anything. It could be a couple thousand bot farms built to convince the gullible to dehumanize men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:34 AM
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They're all grown, thankfully. They come to me for support from time to time like they should but for the most part raising them is in the rear view mirror. Came here cause they're always mocking both pills, and google brought me here. Stayed for the entertaining insanity!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:33 AM
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Well, when women do as much hazard and overtime work as men I'm sure men will be happy to help out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:29 AM
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So I have to forgive women but women don't have to forgive men? Hahahahaha What's there to forgive? Not like I expect better from any woman who isn't my wife. Most people's lies to me are useless, they're both bad liars and I'll never use the info they're hiding against them anyway. I live and let live. Women should try it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:27 AM
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Oh I do love exposing the innocent to the horrors of the abyss. What a treat you are in for, enjoy! https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mike-johnson-son-monitor-porn-intake-covenant-eyes-1234870634/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:24 AM
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No they don't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:20 AM
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Nah I'm just using your own logic against you No, you aren't. I'm not weilding stereotypes about women as tools of dehumanization against women. I am explaining why men's behavior is not motivated by the contempt you are projecting on us. If you were using my logic, you wouldn't be 'against' me lol. But clearly you have no intention of being honest here. Either men are accountable for their own actions and women are also accountable for their own actions. I already said both are accountable for …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:19 AM
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By your logic then women's behaviour towards love and relationships does not occur in a vacuum and it is a reaction to how men treat us. Of course, but it is not women leading the retreat from dating and relationships. It is men. That indicates a disparity in the value each sex sees in each other, if current day men treat women worse than vice versa then it would be women who disproportionately choose to remain single. Men should take accountability for women's actions Nah, that's displacing acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:07 AM
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How tf is he supposed to know there is a problem if she lies to cover it up? This is just displacing accountability and granting way too much power to the man, he's not God ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:14 AM
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The same religious freaks who invented a phone monitoring app that forces half a dozen other people to be notified of their web browsing choices in real time? Those religious freaks? Word to the wise, just because a religious freak says they are above temptation does not make it so lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:12 AM
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The odds you are sincere and not just trolling are vanishingly small.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:11 AM
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Perhaps those opinions are not as reasonable as you assume?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:08 AM
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Once you buy a house, you want your property value to rise. I don't care, I'll be dead when I vacate mine. This mindset is the toxin that is making housing more and more outrageously unaffordable. Especially when declining property values cause higher crime rates. You sure that is such a direct causal relationship? It could easily go the other way. It’s a sad reality but property values and taxes get priced in a way to keep the riff raff out. That's an odd way to say that property values and tax…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:06 AM
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It's beliefs like this which makes trying to date modern women so insufferable for so many men. Holy fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 11:55 PM
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Is it? In addition to working the full shift or more, men are also expected to do more and more domestic labor too. Women put the burden of joining the workforce onto themselves. Men didn't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:04 PM
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I don’t think you know what “autonomy” means. Yet another strawman to erase my autonomy. You have repeatedly proven your thoughts are, shall we say, less than accurate or realistic so this comes as no surprise. Everything you said confirms everything I predicted. Lol sure jan. More lies cause that is all you have. You’re not looking for answers or an actual debate. Says the projector who cannot stop speaking for men in general or me in particular. Yawn. You’re just an angry bitter man who has a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:59 PM
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Well despite my disagreeableness I am rooting for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:47 PM
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What gender roles for women? What happens to women who don't have kids? Nothing. What roles can there be with no enforcement mechanism? I don't think men can possibly think less of women than men like you already do right now. Hahahahahaha What a limited imagination and understanding of history. Hilarious We're not particularly afraid of these weird empty threats What threats? Do you feel threatened by men choosing not to sacrifice themselves for your exclusive benefit? Says a lot about you if s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:45 PM
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I said everything but the literal word "should". If you think describing circumstances where I repeatedly say men are coming to the rational conclusion to withdraw from western women is anything other than strongly implying a "should", I can't help but think this is another attempt to erase men's autonomy and replace it with a strawman. Not like I've seen you do anything but that, after all. You ask "where and when". The modern world. The past 100 years. Be specific, this is a cop out because yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:24 PM
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Whenever I tried to be open to it I got burned or damaged as deeply as I could, by women who otherwise claimed to be feminist. Often by the exact same woman who demanded I try. Thankful I found my wife, but I am ok living the rest of my days not taking those risks anymore. And I don't know how I could ever advize younger men to do differently with any honesty. In the abstract I'd like to believe what you describe is achievable. Who wouldn't. But in reality, men need to be given enough grace to n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:12 PM
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I think it is more likely that there are equal numbers of low quality in both genders, but low quality women complain more and are trusted more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:07 PM
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A woman who wears a dress and doesn't want to have kids is not pursing conflicting doctrines. She has subverted gender roles because she can choose one tradition and reject another. 100 years ago this would be subverting gender roles. Today, it is fulfilling them. Obviously, women were bound to reject gender roles that contained them, restrained them, and civically restricted them. Those roles were not serving their wellbeing. Good for them. When men reject our gender roles we tend to have an in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:05 PM
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So you have zero examples of where and when. As expected, of course. When the net total numbers of a dynamic drop, usually that means an even drop between typical and atypical examples of that dynamic as well - assuming the cause of the drop has an even impact across the whole group. But that is a faulty assumption. Total relationships have gone down specifically because the nature of relationships has become drastically more exploitative of men. Which results in an upswing of men who are willin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:45 PM
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Which kinda makes it feel like romance and partnership are commodities. I think many young men would take that over the rewardless exploitation romance has become for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:25 PM
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So you don't know the difference between comparing averages and comparing distribution across the whole spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:22 PM
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You also said this was over 3 years ago, and that she is autistic. As Au/ADHD myself, I go to routine quarterly therapy appointments just to stay centered and grounded. That's despite living without any severe trauma for decades. Living around neurotypicals, even tolerant ones, can be a strain at best and a real setback at worst. The therapy is best as a preventative, not a cure, so using it as such would be really taking responsibility. It does demonstrate a step in the right direction. For bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:19 PM
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Because it is the male nurses who get called on to deal with the most dangerous patients, and male nurses are in demand due to that. So hospitals have found it necessary to pay more to incentivize men to risk themselves. Take it up with the 'free' market. The female nurses who take on that dangerous work DO get the hazard pay increase, which is why nursing only has a 10% disparity compared to the 19-23% for most other fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:15 PM
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it's almost uncanny valley and sometimes feels like you guys are alien, Trust me, the feeling is mutual. For all your claims to 'normalcy', we look at neurotypicals and wonder how you could have evolved at all. So many of you are so senslessly cruel and oblivious it is a wonder you are even aware you have humanity to lose. not like less than a human to me but more like something that tries to be a human but clearly is different species Maybe you're just intimidated by difference, and willing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:10 PM
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Just because everyone who is autistic/ADHD lives with autism/ADHD, does not mean that everyone in that category takes responsibility for their neurodivergence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:04 PM
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You're not complaining about autism or ADHD, but rather the refusal to take responsibility for managing those conditions. Someone's executive function capacity is not static, even with ADHD executive function and impulse control can be learned. It takes a lot more effort but it is achievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:03 PM
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I prefer "quality" over "value", cause value is contingent on scarcity which is out of individual's control. What a person can control is their quality. What you described is less a 'hoe phase' and more a refusal to mature into accepting responsibility for one's own mental health, safety, and overall well being. While it was wrong of those men to take advantage of her or assault her, she is not to be blamed for their choices, at the same time she has to look at her choices and accept the fact sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:59 PM
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Unreasonable? No. But it's going to make finding a partner a lot harder. That's why many have dropped the puritan insecurities, in both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:53 PM
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Of course, but despite that there should be spontonaeity and creativity if you want to keep things fun. Otherwise welcome to boredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:41 PM
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Lol, wrong again
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:39 PM
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There are men STILL in 2025, actively resisting the idea that someone wanting and choosing to be with them (despite any shortcomings, financial or otherwise) is better than someone having to need them There are women who do this too lol, this is not gendered. Toxic people are in both sexes. How would you encompass the needs of these men with such a campaign. No campaign should indulge toxicity in either sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:38 PM
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For their demands from men, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:37 PM
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when men stop preferring women to be submissive, Men are largely annoyed by women's submissiveness. It is usually women who want men to take over the decisions and take on the responsibilities. When men take truly equal roles in all facets of child care starting at birth, Which they cannot do if the basis of her attraction to him is how he earns all the money to pay for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:36 PM
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While it is nice to see the occaisonal feminist say this, I cannot help but think you are in a bubble. The majority of the feminists I have encountered over the years never seemed to have given much thought to men's opinions on our own gender roles at all, and took offense if any man dared to explain that those roles can be deeply opressive to men as well. I think a lot of the bickering and whinging on both sides could be cleared up if feminism could do a better job of cleaning its movement out.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:33 PM
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It’s a false narrative that we want to end literally all gender roles. We can’t. Women give birth, nothing we can do about that. Men are physically stronger in general, nothing we can do about that. Ok, so the goal to subvert traditional gender roles is antithetical to the health of individuals and society at large then? We DO want to eliminate the gender roles that don’t serve us because…well, men do this too to a large part, and it’s bad to adhere to gender roles that don’t serve you simply be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:25 PM
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Firstly, there HAS been a push for the male breadwinner narrative to die Where. When. Slightly less than half of all relationships don’t have the man earning more Because fewer and fewer people are getting into relationships at all. Secondly, it is not hypocritical for a woman to demand equal pay for the same work as a man AND to find men richer than herself more attractive. It may not be literal hypocrisy but it does put an immense amount of pressure on men without any support or guidance on ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:21 PM
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Because men work way WAY more overtime and hazard pay than women do. This has been shown time and time again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:12 PM
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Women now have to work their tails off (just like men) if they want to play in the big leagues. Which results in dysfunctional relationships, family structures, and socially maladapted kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:10 PM
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You clearly care enough to make up a fiction in your head about it. Been making my wife cum longer than you've been alive, much less the amount of time you've spent disappointing men. 🤟
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:38 PM
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Hence the importance of explicit communication: everyone wins with it, everyone loses without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:37 PM
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Yeah, men are more generous and comminicative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:35 PM
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What I think is I'd like a more mature woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:35 PM
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With women you need to expect to rely on body language and indirect verbal cues which hint at what she wants. That's when I leave to find a better woman. Not here to play guessing games.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:33 PM
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I expect to push back from men, but it's mostly the women in here Lol, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:29 PM
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Sucks to be them 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:29 PM
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So they expect him to magically know without communicating any specifics. They should just masturbate then, everyone would be happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:28 PM
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Often, they would only do it briefly and didn’t seem to enjoy it. One time a woman told me she needed oral to get off and I happily obliged. She stopped me halfway through because I wasn't hard while going down on her for the entire half hour I was doing it. She then tried to tell me that my lack of a perpetual boner means I hate going down on women. So I have doubts about women who complain about men following their instructions but don't "seem to enjoy it". He's not a woman. If he says he like…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:27 PM
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Sounds like you need to get better at picking better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:23 PM
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It's really funny you think being explicit and direct means a person is communicating in algebra, that was already a bizarre and fucked up comparison! Sex isn't a solo creative project done for public approval, it is a collaborative exercise in bonding physically and emotionally. This isn't a weird comparison, it is a misleadingly erroneous comparison. The crowning irony? You're still clinging to rules. Well, just one rule: "I shouldn't have to communicate".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:21 PM
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He will, if you dare to communicate you're not enjoying him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:55 PM
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Oh yeah that invariable evidence of actual skill: talking a big game. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:29 PM
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If I'm responsible for my own orgasm I'll masterbate Go for it, you will not be missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:27 PM
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Almost like men never blame women for not getting the men off or something 🤔🤔🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:26 PM
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Telling on yourself here bro. Just because you have never seen women enjoy sex does not mean they don't enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:22 PM
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It’s also simply a fact that for men, women are doing at least a good enough job for them to orgasm. That is an incredibly low standard lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:20 PM
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Vocalizing more =/= more pleasing??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:18 PM
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"Don't stop" is not a cue, that is explicit communication lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:16 PM
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"Cues" = immaturely assuming men are mind readers and blaming men for only being human. Found the bad sex haver lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:15 PM
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Women have literally told me and my friends that we are too considerate of their needs in bed, that we should 'just know' and not have to communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:58 PM
2

Going to let you in on a bigger secret: comments like this don't make you look clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:57 PM
3

Nice personal attack there just because you're wrong. Super cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:56 PM
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Women lying to men is a communication problem. Wrong, it is a moral problem. Women who lie to their partners are not bad at communicating they are bad at being a decent person worthy of a loving relationship. What a fucking cop out. Many women will tell you they've given up on honest open communication with their man on certain issues because he doesn't listen. Which is just passing the buck. If he is that negligent it is on them to leave. It takes two people to have this kind of breakdown, Lol,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:54 PM
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No, it's about women who lie and refuse to communicate effectively. Do you think those don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:50 PM
1

"Routine never becomes boring" is a weird position to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:49 PM
1

Obviously snakes exist, that is why qualifying matters. That's why good men take the time and initiative to qualify their contacts, and mediocre men don't then wonder why bad men betray them. The phrase is "survival of the fittest" not "survival of the naively innocent".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:43 PM
2

That's delusional, thinking anon online accounts that could be bots or trolling women or stupid kids are representative of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:39 PM
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That's delusional, thinking anon online accounts that could be bots or trolling women or stupid kids are representative of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:38 PM
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Everything but paragraphs 10 11 and 12 is exactly correct, but those three paragraphs seem warped by bias. That "for some reason" in paragraph 11? That reason is women's abuse of men. Men lose faith in love because of it and refocus on their more measurable, concrete need of sexual release, because that is all they trust women to offer (if they still trust women at all). What you cite men saying in paragraph 11 is not what men think, but rather the performance of the role they feel is left to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:36 PM
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That's wrong. Fathers keep the career and the personal life becomes a shadow of its former self. If he is not working as hard or harder at providing than she is at nurturing, then that's just a low quality man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:22 PM
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Having a family means a spouse and kids. What you are describing is being a part of your parent's family.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:58 AM
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Who cares lol, I bet everyone claps too. I have plenty of connections. Many are toxic, but I don't keep them close. If you think everyone around you is a saint it is only because you don't know enough about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:57 AM
2

Who hasn't. I didn't ask for your melodramatic pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:56 AM
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No, that's just being polite. God what a boring concept of flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:55 AM
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They didn't know because they did not take the initiative to find out. Good men qualify their connections, what you are describing is irresponsible negligence. They are not at fault for being betrayed, but they are responsible for not doing enough to prevent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:55 AM
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Who cares. The manosphere covers a fraction of a fraction of all men. It's like men bitching about FDS, you're just giving yourself an excuse to flip out. Yes, obviously it's bullshit. Only way to fight it is not doing these dipshits' PR for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:51 AM
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Have you met single, childless men? They are bitter and lonely in comparison to single, childless women who have families and enjoy their lives. "Single childless women who have families" is a paradox lol. You're just trolling, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:08 PM
1

You're really just telling on your own standards here dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:05 PM
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Bingo. The infatuated but single don't see the humanizing blunders, annoyances, and blind spots in the other person. So all they have to work with are their own fantasies, which are always inflated by their unrequited desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:03 PM
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Any woman can make male friends... ... with a probability of success in inverse proportion to: - the woman's attractiveness - the man's attractiveness - the closeness of their age/maturity - the similarity of their lifestyle - their (the man's and woman's) openness to casual sex or infidelity This is one of the reasons why platonic friendships with the opposite sex is a major green flag for both sexes. It is a strong demonstration of their maturity, self control, and respect for themselves as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:58 PM
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Completely agree OP. Women are too quick to assume men are being deceptive when a lot of the time it is just a guy changing as he grows and learns about them over the long term. Not that I blame them for that vigilance, it's necessary. But it has unfortunate consequences, and the condemning of decent men who caught feelings they did not choose to have is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:54 PM
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RP men don't do that lol, the whole point of RP is that there are things men should do to take responsibility for their sex life. RP men are the ones who notice they want more than what they are getting, and then investigate what they can change about themselves to become more successful. Like, I'm not even RP and I think you're being heinously dishonest about them. Yeah they have their issues but those issues don't include displacing accountability or laziness or refusing to make changes to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:50 PM
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Nah, again there is no value in a chase. For value to be actualized there needs to be an exchange. Most single women's value is a mirage, though that also isn't gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:46 PM
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🙄 Of course it matters lmao, happiness and inner peace is not contingent on relative superiority to others. It is contingent on human connection, self and world awareness, and acceptance of life's struggles. Pity fucks are bad lmao, they're far FAR worse than no sex at all! Having no one to pity fuck for men is still better than having no commitment from men for women. Men can provide themselves with everything but romantic connection, women depend on men's provision.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:44 PM
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Ok, now you are speaking a language I fully understand. I retract my chastisement and replace it with sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:40 PM
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Women don’t cling to abusive relationships in fear of solitude Sadly, yes plenty of women do. You're just refusing to live in reality. Single, childless women are often among the happiest group of people. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY FUCK All the data shows they're not lol Women build relationships outside of romantic relationships. They build communities. Uh huh, and what about the >95% of men workers in the trades that actually build things? Women don't build shit, you just squat in the structures bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:37 PM
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Nah, men aren't desperate. Men are horny, and they can fix that problem by themselves. Pussy is a dime a dozen, it's not hard to find for most men. It's finding a worthwhile woman that is the true challenge these days. MGTOW > incels anyway. Lonely women are just desperate to delude themselves into thinking anyone but them are the reason why they are lonely. Men stay away by choice, because of the obvious practical benefits of that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:25 PM
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Those are just compliments. Reading your comments back to back is like a roller coaster, first you're flirting from within a marraige but then you reveal the 'flirts' are just wholesome compliments. Flirtation hinges on finding a boundary line and putting a toe on it. Never crossing over into outright breaching a boundary, but definitely teasing and testing it. That's why actual flirtation in monogamous relationships should be between the partners themselves, because otherwise it is playing with…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:20 PM
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No, I can read but somehow read the exact same words in two comments and did not catch it is a word for word substitution. /s 🙄 What a low opinion of others you must have to assume that. Just because you use ineffective rhetoric doesn't mean anyone's failing to catch it. I (politely) refused to critically comment on something so irrelevant. Irl people are just as toxic, almost as though the people on the apps are real people. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:56 PM
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Ok, but you still have not described men 'misunderstanding' anything. You described men being misinformed. And who has been telling men, for decades, that pursuing women is wrong? Women!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:50 PM
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Just note which women do it and seek the women who don't. They are out there. You can waste your entire life trying to convince bigots the sky is blue and they will still write "Red Sky" on your tombstone. Don't bother, just point and laugh and keep moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:48 PM
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That's like sitting under a waterfall of liquid shit because it makes you laugh. There are less costly forms of 'entertainment'. Tbh I don't really believe you. Usually that kind of obsession with blatantly toxic and transparently stupid content has more to do with masochism than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:46 PM
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Good men don't keep snakes for friends. Duh. Yes you can and should judge men by the company they keep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:37 PM
1

I largely agree. The learning process is usually a process of elimination, and only experimentation will get the goods. That means chasing passion to a certain extent, though it is easy to overdo it and find yourself feeling worse than you did before.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:34 PM
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If my wife flirted with other men she would get divorce papers within the day. Same is true if I flirted with other women. Why folks tolerate that degree of disloyalty is beyond me, just for a shot of ego? What kind of 'safe space' is possible with a spouse who is constantly provoking the sexual attention of other people? That sounds like living hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:43 PM
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She wouldn't flirt with those men. She flirts with the men who look up to her and the men who are willing to settle for her, aka the men who approach her. She's not really exposed to the upper percentiles of men in the same way. Despite being in the lower percentiles she still controls access to sex, so her flirts are mostly contained within her own 'bracket' so to speak. Whereas men don't get that privilege unless they're in the very top percentiles, so men are receiving a lot more contempt or …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:40 PM
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No. It suggests the value is deeply overestimated. There's nothing of value in a chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:35 PM
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Who cares. That isn't impressive and the vast majority of those 'options' are either not interested in commitment or are unworthy of it. Why count the fool's gold?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:30 PM
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Why are the people of Flint MI complaining? They got water! Sure it is water that is killing them, but they got it so they shouldn't complain! Continue providing an example of the callous contempt that is driving men away from dating women. Plenty of women cling to abusive relationships in fear of solitude, that is not a gendered behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:27 PM
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This is just not true lol, MGTOW exists. Women need to believe men are so desperate and self denigrating that they are in denial about just how many men are giving up on women entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:25 PM
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The preach and screech is against men who actually do that lol, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:47 AM
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I am requesting that you tell us more about your reflexive dehumanization of men. There is nothing to elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:46 AM
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How are men misunderstanding it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:44 AM
-2

What a gross perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:43 AM
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There is plenty of preach and screech from women lmao, this is just a sexist lie
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:42 AM
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You watch too much manosphere shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:41 AM
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It's more like "my desire has been repeatedly used to abuse me, so I will handle it myself." Very interesting that option never came up for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:40 AM
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Before I was married I had yet to find a woman who was more pleasant than solitude. Sexually or otherwise. Maybe if you held less contempt for men you would know more about our inner lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:39 AM
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Tell us more about how you have not tried to see men as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:37 AM
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Yep, agreed fully. In my days, the least trustworthy men were also the one who suffered the least hardship. It's the shared burdens that keep us both humble and connects us. I wouldn't be surprised if female bonds were stronger before the west made every day a birthday party for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:33 AM
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Everything. Learning new languages, fighting off criminals, detecting cheaters, networking for jobs, getting pulled from depression or a housefire, surviving deployment, the list goes on. Most of my men friends owe me their lives and happiness almost as much as I owe them mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:30 AM
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Don't call me sweetie. Not going to address the rest of your sexist lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:06 AM
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Tell us more about your inability to discern between quality and trash men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:06 AM
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Oh so now you're stalking me? And this is about anyone else's need for validation but your's? Puh-leaze 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:55 AM
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Sexual dimorphism is older than the dinosaurs. If your cause for that dimorphism is more recent and incapable of time travel then your causal explanation is chronologically incoherent. No fucking clue what the rest of your blathering means beyond that you should probably touch grass more. 🤟
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:54 AM
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Of course it is lying, it's just that the deceived are mostly themselves. These are hobbies which men find fulfilling, they are not going to suddenly find them unfulfilling just because women scorn them. But if they decide that they want to chase women more than respect their own hobby interests and preferences, then they are being deceptive both to themselves and to women. If a guy who loves video games but gave them up to do woodworking meets a woman who loves video games - guess what pursuit …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:51 AM
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Compassion is concern for the suffering of others. Show me an example of greater compassion than a man diving into freezing waters to save someone who would otherwise drown or die of hypothermia. How is that not a demonstration for concern over others' suffering? He's so concerned he has defined the task of ending the suffering as a greater priority than protecting his own life. Explain how that is not compassionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:37 AM
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You're kidding, right? The ongoing growth of ren fairs and DnD cosplayers strongly suggest otherwise to me. More and more women's livlihood and social status are affected by access to steel bikini armor with every passing year since the start of Covid!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:34 AM
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If that were true you wouldn't project your insecurity onto men. Sorry 🤷‍♂️ You would be far from the first engaged woman who actively pursues and enjoys the attention of men who are not your husband. Afaik RP is about disqualifying women who lack quality as much as it is about pursuing desirable women. Maybe you should ask one for clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:32 AM
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I'd say I need one for the kids but they already understood the correct progression between single celled organisms and vertabrates years ago. Maybe you should ask me to hire them out the next time you need someone to tell you that 2b is older than 7m?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:28 AM
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Ummm... barring some sort of paraplegic condition people who can't get laid are just incompetent. Getting laid is easy. Disability is not about just lacking outcomes, but lacking the capacity to achieve the outcomes that come perfectly naturally to others with the full capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:26 AM
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What would the point be, beyond helping low quality men lie to women? Nobody benefits from that in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:24 AM
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You're not making much sense, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:22 AM
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So your argument is that the hormones, receptors, and neurotransmitters which need to function in order to experience attraction are something other than physical? What are they, if not composed from physical materials? A figment of the imagination? An act of a demon or angel? Please. 🙄 Lacking a sex drive or any sense of sexual attraction is a physical state of being, caused by being deprived of functional physical processes in the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:21 AM
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Usually their own stupidity. I've pulled no less than 9 women back from literally walking into oncoming traffic, almost always on their stupid phones. Most people are not that aware or intelligent, there does not need to be anything risking their life for them to die to their own incompetence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:17 AM
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If you think most men give a fuck about you or your opinion, go out in public wasted and naked to test that hypothesis. But we both know I am right, so you won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:14 AM
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Thanks for underlining my opinion while proving it correct. 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:12 AM
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Good, men don't need to display that unless they want to become husbands and fathers. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:11 AM
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I don't accept surveys as proof of women's anything beyond their capacity to know and say what others want to hear, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:10 AM
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Asexuals can have sex! What asexuals cannot do is experience sexual attraction! Fucking look up words before you use them!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:08 AM
2

Damming for who? If a man wants something he can either change the world or himself to get it, or he can seek happiness in disappointment. Those are the options, no one is coming to help or save a man from his own desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:07 AM
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I know. Your comment was really about your projection of your need for validation onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:05 AM
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Meh, low effort trolling lies. Not sure if you can do better, based on your comments you probably can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:04 AM
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Yeah, you humiliated yourself so badly by displacing the evolutionary origins of sexual hormones by about a billion years that I decided continuing to discuss that with you was only going to cause you more trauma via humiliation. You are welcome for my mercy, but I think continuing to pretend you are a tolerable interlocutor is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:58 AM
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More men than not are not incels pining for your approval, so yes en masse. You just need to get out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:56 AM
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Too late, been married probably longer than you have been alive. 🤟
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:55 AM
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If women were more compassionate they wouldn't be the primary inflicters of infanticide by orders of magnitude. Women are compassionate if and only if that compassion serves their self interest. To women, even women of high quality compassion is just another tool in the toolbox. Men are more compassionate because men are 99 times out of 100 the ones who voluntarily risk or sacrifice their lives for the benefit of a stranger. To men, especially men of the highest quality, compassion is the nobles…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:54 AM
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Enough with the lies. Asexuals are, by definition, incapable of experiencing sexual attraction. Many are incapable of experiencing arousal at all. That is an incomplete experience of the capacities of a fully capable human being, it is a disability which limits or fully cuts asexuals access to entire worlds of human social and sexual interaction and connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:49 AM
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Plenty of men do, and then (like OP) return to Plato's Cave to bring word of the true light to those addicted to shadow and delusion. Guess you're only upset the con is being uncovered then? Typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:44 AM
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I guess laughter is the only way you can try (and fail) to keep a fig leaf covering your jealousy. But your immaturity aside, all my men in my life have my back and I have their's. Only met one woman who could say the same, and I married her. That simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:42 AM
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They cannot participate in a defining behavior of human beings due to incapacity. That is a disability, an entire dimension of existence is closed to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:40 AM
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I never started. I was married and done with dumb women a decade before that shit blossom bloomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:38 AM
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She gets depth when she wants it, but afaict she rarely does. She has her own friends and a therapist for that if she needs it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:37 AM
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Nah, men don't like it either. That's why the simps take themselves out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:36 AM
2

Well they aren't going to find that by asking women for it nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:36 AM
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Men know they can rely on each other, and women have proved they can't be relied on generally. Why wouldn't men want to try to bond with the folks who actually respect them? Or put another way, why should men pine after women's approval when that approval is so fake and worthless these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:35 AM
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I see a reason: their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:33 AM
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Because men are more compassionate and empathetic, and also the Women Are Wonderful effect. The fact that women can be abusive is only learned via process of elimination in the west these days, men are not adequately prepared for the inhumanity of women. This is the result of neglecting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:32 AM
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Because men are more compassionate and empathetic, and also the Women Are Wonderful effect. The fact that women can be abusive is only learned via process of elimination in the west these days, men are not adequately prepared for the inhumanity of women. This is the result of neglecting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:31 AM
-1

"Aren't you seeking their validation either way?" No. Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:29 AM
-1

Idk, I generally feel very close to my wife but I have never relied on her for "depth".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:29 AM
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That's like saying blind people exist so you should be cool with scooping out your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:28 AM
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I have nothing more to add. Completely agree. Being a leader is a masculine trait, being a follower is feminine. That does not mean only men can lead and only women can follow, that means men are attractive to women for being a leader and are not attractive to women by being a follower. Even if he's following her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:24 AM
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No, men are also orders of magnitude more likely to be robbed without violence too. This is because of three reasons: Men tend to have more money Robbery is a crime of desperation more often than not, and the desperate become so due to respecting the principles of their upbringing, resulting in a general reluctance to rob women Women are Wonderful effect
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:20 AM
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I don't need your permission or questions to state my opinions, and the statement you are taking issue with was not even an opinion. It is a fact that I don't care if your choices leave you alone with only pets to keep you company, not an opinion. I don't care if you call the standards you fall short of 'pathetic'. I don't use standards to impress you but to improve my life by avoiding those who cannot meet my standards, let alone exceed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:29 PM
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Your obviously hostile questions are just you flailing in an attempt to change the subject. You are the one who misplaced the evolutionary history of sexual hormones by hundreds of millions of years, it is not my understanding of sexual biology or neurology that is in any doubt. You're the one who claimed sexual selection is not solely responsible for sexual dimorphism, and you explained this claim by claiming sexual hormones also contribute to dimorphism. But those hormones are a direct product…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:23 PM
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*delegitimize *shout *attempt >at< an argument For someone who named themselves "alwaysright" you don't even get basic spelling and grammar correct. I don't care how 'legitimate' I appear to someone who ignores the facts. Efforts to rectify this injustice won't be impacted by your contempt for men, it is that contempt which provides those efforts with the best recruiting material. There was no attempt to insult, just to inform you that I don't care what choices you make since I am not the one wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:09 PM
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You don't know enough to avoid putting the cart before the horse by a minimum of hundreds of millions of years lmfao Testosterone is at least as old as gnathostomes aka jawed vertabrates, and its predecessor androgen hormones are even older with its origins dating back to the Chondrichthyes-Osteichthyes Split ~420 million years ago. But the origins of sexual reproduction (as well as its natural consequence of sexual selection) are at least 2 billion years old. In other words: the capacity to gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:00 PM
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No she isn't. Literally every crime rate statistic shows the opposite is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:03 PM
2

Have you ever heard of the concept of robbery?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 07:02 PM
3

It's not just one treatment, it is in every EGF beauty product. It has been its own entire category of elite beauty products for decades now. The wealthier the woman, the more likely her cosmetics are made from stolen human foreskins. Various media businesses have been trying to legitimize it for decades as well. https://qz.com/quartzy/1230002/sandra-bullock-and-cate-blanchett-had-a-penis-facial-its-not-that-strange#:~:text=You%20can%20find%20EGF%20in,beauty%20products%20rooted%20in%20foreskins.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:55 PM
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Of course it is good for society for its participants to select for the most qualified mates. That leads to more stable, more functional, and less traumatizing pair bonds as well as better children. Human beings are not blank slates of interchangable skill sets and talents. For every task there are humans who are better and there are humans who are worse. Sexual selection is the evolutionary process of a species refining its physiology to adapt to its existential needs, you cannot have sapient c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:33 PM
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Yes, they are. https://www.bostonmagazine.com/health/2015/04/14/baby-foreskin-facial-boston-hydrafacial/ I never said women are never harmed by men, that is a different topic for a different conversation. You asked what men protect and provide, and I answered. The existence of a microminority of men who fail to protect and provide does not detract from that, just like the existence of intolerable women does not eliminate the fact that most women are pleasant to be around. What are we supposed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:17 PM
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Sex hormone levels are a direct downstream consequence of sexual selection lmfao. You don't know what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:55 PM
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Troll post? Certainly low effort. Men protect and provide women's quality of life. You would not have the eletrical grid you take for granted without men. The concrete you set your houses offices gyms and overpriced coffeeshops on? Built by men. The sewage and garbage systems that makes your routine waste byproducts a forgotten irrelevancy you don't have to spend a second of time thinking about? Built by men. The wooden frames you live within? Made from materials harvested and refined by men, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:53 PM
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OP is a woman. All OP stated is real courting, no casual sex or fwb or situationships, and that sex can only happen after "proper commitment". OF parasocial exploitation is neither a proper commitment, nor is it sex either. So I don't think that qualifies!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:36 PM
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Why do you reflexively assume I was talking about men only being harmed financially from divorce? I think the sex which ends themselves 9x more frequently after a divorce is objectively harmed more, regardless of any other harm disparities. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/acquainted-the-night/201906/divorce-is-risk-factor-suicide-especially-men "How can the burden of picking your life partner EVER be society's?" It cannot. 👍 That's why my argument uses that concept as a hyperbolic absurd…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:31 PM
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The Duluth Model has had numberless abused men arrested and worse for being victims of abusive women. Feminism is directly responsible for that. The absence of abuse shelters for men in western society is also the fault of feminist activist action. The conflation between sex work and women's empowerment is a defining characteristic of 2nd wave feminism. If you think these things have had no impact on dating it is on you to show how that can be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:18 PM
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Men want none of those things lol Vast majority of men just want a respectful, compassionate, feminine partner. Trying to shove words in men's mouths doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:12 PM
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I met my wife by cold approaching 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:07 PM
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As in "no sex before proper commitment"? Depending on the time and place that commitment could be a few coins for her cheap father's dowry or just plain old fashioned 'right of conquest'. OP's premise has more than ample room for sex work, the marraige itself is literally a contract of agreed upon sexual labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:05 PM
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Lol Sex work will never go away. Come tf on. This is pure naivety.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:48 PM
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No. It doesn't matter how far back you go, the 'commitment' side of the equation still puts married men in a more exploitable position than is reasonable to expect them to blindly accept. You would have to change more than courtship for traditional courtship to be worth it to men anymore. So long as divorce is so easy for women or ruinous to men, it is too risky for a man to narrow their focus to a single woman. He has to put himself out there because he can only learn by process of elimination.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:46 PM
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If those ideas are patriarchal they would only exist in proportion to the power men have over women, but those ideas are omnipresent even in environments and institutional structures where women have power or one woman has power. Therefore, blaming it on patriarchy instead of human instinct is inaccurate. These beliefs are not products of social structures, they are the abstractions of the instincts which underpin our social structures. I do not see feminism as a monolith, but the opposite. A mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:35 PM
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It's weird for American culture too. It's purely a product of marketing, but people act like it is a timeless tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:54 PM
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I don't expect you to do anything, I'm just explaining to you why your choices will guaranteeably result in not only repelling good women away from you but also attracting bad women to you. Take it or leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:57 PM
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Dear lord it's like you want to make everything as difficult as possible. What a perfect storm of virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:18 PM
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When you build your strategy around trying to seem like 'not like the other men', all you end up doing is presenting yourself in a way women will see as dishonest or feminine or both. And it is a rare - not to mention deeply unpleasant - woman who finds those traits attractive in men. You're fishing for sharks without the proper protective gear. Good fucking luck kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:12 PM
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Provoking drama for fun is following emotions, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:05 PM
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Nailed it, incredible 💪
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:56 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:54 PM
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You have a lot to say that makes sense, yet I don't see feminism as a force of liberation. You say feminism cannot be allowed to frame itself in white heteronormative gender essentialist terms, but that is exactly what feminism was founded by and I have yet to see any evidence the movement ever escaped its origins. Even if I were to amputate the experiences and practical conclusions which condemn feminism from my memory to grant you as much benefit of the doubt as I possibly can - I can only be …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:51 PM
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There's always a very clueless exception to every common sense rule lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:25 PM
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While its function as a social lubricant is understandable, it's frustrating how different people who do that are between their drunk and sober selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:24 PM
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I never mentioned socioeconomic class because it is irrelevant to my point, correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:20 PM
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Never understood the folks who seem to think romance requires fame, yeah exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:15 PM
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I drink with my friends, it's cheaper safer and more fun. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:46 PM
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As it should be, that sounds lovely
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:45 PM
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Lol what a bad liar, boring too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:44 PM
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Have fun being alone!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:43 PM
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I mean I know prohibition sucked but so do bars, sue me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:41 PM
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Not true, the man needs to get something of value from the relationship too and women need to apply themselves to fulfilling that role to remain his partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:34 PM
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"Plenty of people do not adhere" is a claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:32 PM
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If he is in a situation where transparency would put him in danger then I'd be an asshole to expect it of him, and the odds of me being aware of that situation if he does not tell me are practically zero. So there's nothing of value to gain by judging and plenty of value to lose. Whereas if I can see for myself he's wasting his life with a low quality abusive woman, then I have to acknowledge his lack of self respect because I can actually see it for myself. At that point failing to be real abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:30 PM
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I don't like repeating myself. Why are you trying to hold me accountable to what some random dumbass, who is not me, wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:26 PM
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Let's see your stats from the 1200 couples and singles you have interviewed then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:25 PM
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... are you suggesting women never try to exploit the men they are fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:24 PM
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All the hit dogs hollering in the comments is hysterical lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:23 PM
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Nope. But I guess this is the only rhetorical defense you know? Kinda lame!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:22 PM
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Ok, so? Again, instincts are not social constructs. Instincts are far, far older and more deeply imbedded in our psyche. Instincts are not derived only from our time spent as human beings, but from the countless precursor species our ancestors evolved from as well. Human social structures are maybe a million or two years old. Our sexual instincts are a thousand times older. So the existence of social constructs which contradict those instincts doesn't disprove the validity of those instincts. Fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:21 PM
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It's incel rage posting to complain about being sexually assaulted? What a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:55 PM
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/611864/lgbtq-identification.aspx#:~:text=These%20results%20are%20based%20on,2%25%20of%20LGBTQ+%20adults%20each. The dominance and submission stats are my own data based on my interactions and interviews with members of the kink community, since data on that seems to be lacking. To be fair, it does seem like the data would only prove what is already self-evident: women strongly tend to like dominant men and men strongly tend to prefer submissive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:54 PM
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Ok, what do you want me to do about some guy being wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:37 PM
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Hell yeah man, that's awesome. Me and mine went ring shopping together too, it's the best way to do it imo cause I got to see her react to each option in person. Made the choice very obvious, which helped me a ton.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:35 PM
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Fair criticisms top to bottom, I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:33 PM
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It obviously is up to him whether he sees low quality women as wife material, but that's a mistake others (including men like me and his own future wife) will think less of him for making.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:32 PM
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I'm using hyperbole to emphasize the point, not claiming a back alley ring pop proposal is anything less than actively disrespectful and anti-romantic. But you two sound insanely adorable, congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:30 PM
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... it's one of the most important decisions of a man's life. Wtf wouldn't he want to be anything less than certain?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:28 PM
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No, it's actually a rather small minority compared to the wider population. The supermajority of sexually active people, over 86%, are cisgendered and heterosexual. Over 75% of cis hetero men identify themselves as needing to feel some kind of 'dominance' or 'superiority' over their women partners to feel attracted, and over 95% of their female counterparts report a need to feel submissive or inferior to their man to feel attracted. That's why sub men seeking dom women are the least fulfilled an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:26 PM
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I agree with all that, to me that falls under "expression of your bond". If that bond is not built out of mutual respect and communication then the marraige is DOA anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:17 PM
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While that's usually a safe assumption to make, that people should be able to see their partners for who they are over the long term, when it is the wrong assumption to make it can be pretty painful. Like, abusive partners structure their whole lives and identity around hiding their true nature and intentions from their victims. While there are 'flags' to look out for, everyone is capable of errors of judgement and abusers exist by exploiting those errors. Then there are the actual cases of trau…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:16 PM
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In case it isn't obvious I was using hyperbole to emphasize my point, not literally saying it is a good move to propose to your woman with a half eaten Ring Pop in a dirty back alley. Sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:10 PM
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Apparently that's how my grandpa did it. He just showed up with a ring, a list of their friend's contact info, a wedding planner service and his paper calendar from his fridge door. Their bond lasted their whole lives, and they were still fucking in their 70s. I know cause I kept walking in on them 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:08 PM
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Even if the guy is certain, I think public proposals are a mistake. The marraige is between the man and the woman, not every other person trying to eat their shitty Olive Garden dinner at the resturaunt. It should be a private and deeply intimate event.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:04 PM
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That's up to him. I am always transparent about how I view my partners, but I can afford to be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:01 PM
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Because gender roles are a perfomance which fulfills the sexually divergent instincts of both the person performing them and the partner who they are performing for. It is not enough to just be a woman, to be feminine a woman has to live and interact with her man in the ways which fulfills his masculinity. Attraction is a byproduct of the juxtaposed polarity of the sexes, not a result of their mere coexistence. To the abstracted modern super ego equality is a political economic and social necess…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:58 PM
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That effort is invariably wasted. Trying to WOW her on the proposal is dumb, and if she is demanding that she is either dumb herself or just exploitative. If she isn't the kind of woman who makes her "yes" obvious long before the proposal, if she isn't the kind of woman who would rather spend that money on a honeymoon home or family assets, then she is not a good enough partner to make a quality wife anyway. So the man should see her as for fun only.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:58 PM
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Let's be real. Them kids were never going to get paid. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:52 PM
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It's not the proposal that sets the tone, but the maturity of the woman who accepts it. The guy can drop enormous sums of money trying to please her and if she is an entitled shallow harpy like the first example all it will inspire is indifference or contempt. Like ffs, she specifically wants a daimond children died to bring to market. She literally won't be satisfied with a marraige without black kid blood on her hands. Neither of these women are understandable. They get gifts and their reactio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:51 PM
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What a bizarre question, why does it matter? But for the record the jail only lists administrative division leads for its publicly facing staff records. There is one woman Lt. and two captains, obviously all white. https://www.co.jackson.ms.us/524/Chief-Deputy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:42 PM
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I'm not in the habit of taking the value claims of rapists at face value. Presuming every human choice is a rational pursuit of self interest is a choice which disproves that same assumption. Humans are not invariably rational, and our neurology makes it impossible to harm others without harming ourselves. Just because a person believes they are competently pursuing their self interest does not make it so. Every time a rapist violates a victim they are pushing themselves another step outside the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:38 PM
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Does the gazelle care if the lion devours their liver firsr for the taste or the nutrition? The gazelle is dead either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:28 PM
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So worse than this? https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/families-in-disbelief-after-hundreds-of-bodies-found-buried-behind-mississippi-jail Idk, it's still a pointless comparison which ultimately detracts from your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:02 PM
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Lol Oh yeah women love rampant insecurity that erupts in control freak paranoia and moral condemnation. Nothing gets women wetter than a judgemental firehose of raw rage and resentment who can never tolerate others enjoying life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:00 PM
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Pretty much. If anything the rates of men pursuing casual sex has gone down in the states over recent decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:56 PM
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"No gender has had its rights destroyed so quickly..." ... really? You're saying this is worse than the Nanjing Massacre? You're saying the loss of Roe v Wade destroyed more rights for women than the Holocaust destroyed the rights of men and women? ... hyperbole like this only makes it harder to take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:53 PM
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Calm down there I was being sarcastic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:45 PM
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I hope we're both being sarcastic here lol damn!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:44 PM
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Yeah prohibition was very bad admittedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:43 PM
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Lol. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:43 PM
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If they're aspiring alcoholics or insecure, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:42 PM
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Same, it's the wrong vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:42 PM
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"I've never been to ladies night" lmk when you have a relevant opinion then
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:42 PM
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Everyone cool has, that's good enough for me 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:38 PM
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What assumptions? Can you be more specific (no, obviously not)?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:37 PM
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Weird to call that a 'benefit'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:36 PM
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If it wasn't obvious, I'm here validating the fact that bars still suck as much now as they did in the 90s. And it's true, hell it sounds like they're even worse than the last time I was in them. Feels good to be right. One day I'm sure you'll understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:39 AM
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Great. So not only do we get rid of a magnet for violent crime and noise complaints but I have to pay less to get the same property? Fucking sign me up in triplicate dude, I am all about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:37 AM
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I stopped going to bars because entitled drunk women would not stop groping me. Money is just one factor, the other is how it makes women completely insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:33 AM
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I already don't. The point is that it doesn't "benefit" men either. It's just a cesspit sinkhole that pulls anyone dumb enough to get close to the bottom of a stinking mire of piss and parasites.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:32 AM
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Because it is an easy and relatively cheap way to increase noteriety, popularity, and incentivize young irresponsible alcoholics to keep coming back. Unless the bar is literally coercing people into sex work, accusing them of trying to make women into marketable merchandise is tantamount to defamation. It's just a lie, and an unnecessary one too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:30 AM
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If they aren't desperate then they are not only not in need of a discount, they're spending their nights with a high quality man or doing things a high quality man will see more value in them for doing them. They're confident they don't need to go to cheap booze holes to convince a guy to try to care about them while his judgement is impaired, cause that is the zenith of desperate insecurity. A secure person can afford their booze if they imbibe, and does it in the comfort of their own social ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:26 AM
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Good thing the only thing you can find at a bar for the past 30 years are sloppy drunk women then, cause men largely stopped going.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:18 AM
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Yep. Maybe if there wasn't a ladies night there would be more men? Noooo, we can't try that!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:17 AM
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So it still doesn't sound like it even works at getting men into bars. Just like it wasn't working 20 years ago the last time I was at a bar lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:16 AM
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If they had better self control they would know fewer men, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:15 AM
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We are boycotting those places, that's why it's mostly women in them. Duh. Catch up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:14 AM
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Sure men do. Haven't you been to scotland, greece, or a fuckin pride parade? Get out more lol There are men right now getting surguries and taking HRT to get out of conscripted military service. There are men wearing dresses in Spain and legally changing their sex just to get better pay and sleeping quarters for government jobs. Your concept of men is so narrow minded, it's funny you think you're such an expert when you're obviously just taking a dump on people you hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:13 AM
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I look better in a sexy nurse outfit than most women, y'all take it for granted and it goes to waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:08 AM
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Sure. So it actually originates in European sex work circles from centuries ago. Back when all the London brothels were built on Gropecunt Lane, like the mid 1200s iirc, the brothel madams noticed that their girls were a good bit more vigorous about getting dick in em if they got some booze in em first, and the rest is histor- Hahahaha... I really hope you didn't believe any of that. It's just a cheap way for a bar to gain noteriety and popularity, it has nothing to do with turning women into "p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:06 AM
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Lol Women who go to ladies nights are desperate! It's the low quality woman way to shoot fish in a barrel, just go to where all the fish are too drunk to think straight and let their guard down. If they weren't desperate they wouldn't need to rely on intoxication to lower standards for them. It's not any less creepy that they can't get consent without alcohol just because they're women. In some ways it's more sad because they definitely can get a decent guy sober if they just believed in themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:00 AM
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Lol how does it turn women into a product unless the bar is a brothel? Get fucking real.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:56 AM
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Hoorah, now instead of no alcoholic freeloaders I have to reject a couple dozen before I can get to my car. Fuck yes, just what I always wanted, more entitled low quality drunk women trying to grope me. Pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:55 AM
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Men don't benefit from other people drinking free booze lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:53 AM
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Yeah almost like we'd be better off not only getting rid of ladies nights, but bars altogether as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:52 AM
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No. Let bars go out of business. Fuck em. They don't pay my bills so why should I pay their's?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:51 AM
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Kinda telling on yourself here man. If the only time you feel comfortable enough to approach women is when they're too drunk to see straight or think coherently that says a lot of really dark and terrible things about you. Personally, the ladies night shit is a huge part of the reason I stopped going to bars. Too many drunk women trying to touch me without permission cause they feel entitled to my fuckin body, just like they feel entitled to my fuckin money and the bar's fuckin booze. If that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:50 AM
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The alternative is just saying goodbye lol, most of the toddlers I know have no trouble with it. So it is always funny to find an adult who goes to endless lengths to convince themselves that acknowledging the end of any connection between two people is so difficult or dangerous that it's normal to not do it. Why whine about a rejection? If I could I would have made Rejection my best man at my wedding! I'm always thankful for them because that means I have to waste that much less time and energy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:38 AM
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Idc whether or not you commit to them, I would have mentioned that if I did. So let's start the list with - Dishonesty: a toxic red flag. Not communicating like an adult when you have criticisms or a problem: toxic red flag. Treating people as disposable for incredibly petty mistakes and shortcomings, without any effort to address those with honesty and respect like an adult: toxic red flag. Blaming others for the downstream consequences of your refusal to communicate functionally and respective…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:33 PM
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Ok, but how is your history of toxic mistreatment of men relevant to how a completely different woman treated a man you never met? You think all women are the same, part of a hivemind? Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:20 PM
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OP why give a fuck what women say? Pay attention to what, and who, they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:19 PM
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For the second time, I cannot give less of a fuck about your hypothetical friends lol I and the OP at the top of the thread never said anything about "sexy" pics, that's all you. If that's the only standard you have for whether women derive more social validation from a typical day than men that really just tells on your internalized misogyny more than anything else. 🤷‍♂️ Pretending anyone but you is talking only about women who post thirst traps, when what the men are discussing are women as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:15 PM
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Lol, you wish you could get me mad. But that would require earning enough of my respect to take you seriously, and you don't seem motivated to gain that. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:03 PM
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Illustrious-Baker didn't say sexy pics, he said any pics. A woman's picture of a landscape typically gets more attention and validation than a man's picture of the same thing, and this shouldn't be surprising. Parasocial validation is not as potent as the in-person validation found in real reciprocal relationships, but it still provides more than enough of a fix to work for most people. Women are wired to focus more attention on and derive more fulfillment from socializing, and as a result they …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:56 PM
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Oh, you're one of those who needs everything spelled out for you. Tedious, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. What I am talking about is that if she expects men to pay for everything to interact with her, she is closer to a bad prostitute than merely a bad partner. I wasn't talking about your question, but for the record here is the answer: neither not paying for women nor keeping options open are important. A man doesn't need a woman to be happy, and if he thinks women are just too imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:36 PM
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I said "a shut in", singular. Idc about whatever friends you say you have, for all I know you can be a dog trained to type. I don't pretend to know the 'average woman', but I know enough to know that woman pursue social validation online with more than thirst traps. Women also pursue that validation by presenting opinions they think make them seem like an interesting or insightful or fairminded person. The business model of social media empires is built around the task of indulging predominantly…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:27 PM
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Did I say that? I would have if I meant that. Lmk if you discover an interest in what I think and not what you want me to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:15 PM
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Lmao you think men like breast implants! Hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:12 PM
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I'd happily sacrifice an infinite number of canceled first dates to find the relationship I want. 🤷‍♂️ It's not hard lol, and it can actually be really satisfying to toss an entitled woman to the curb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:11 PM
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I don't want to date a prostitute, this is pure cope. But it is funny cope, so don't let that stop you from trying to speak for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:09 PM
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Ok, so you're not in tune with modern women. Probably a shut in of some kind. Dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:34 PM
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Blah blah blah, they're hurting their chances the most by being on the apps at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:32 PM
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Idc about your fetish for making suffering into a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:26 PM
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Do you think only men by dildos and vibrators?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:51 PM
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Fleshlights are totally overrated lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:50 PM
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Nah, the whining would remain largely the same because the people whining the most are the ones who are too whiney to maintain relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:49 PM
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How about we let men decide if men enjoy things? Its weird and creepy you feel entitled to speak for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:47 PM
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What a creepy thing to say. No, no one wishes to be pursued by someone they don't want. Tf?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:00 PM
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More men have this problem than you think. If none have told you about it, it's probably because you don't make them feel safe enough to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:59 PM
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Wish more people would remind women of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:58 PM
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As a dude who has survived women who SA'd me, you're wrong. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:57 PM
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Because our society is misandrist (which isn't mutually exclusive to being misogynist, this is just an ingrained prejudice that harms men). When a man complains about lacking sexual satisfaction in his life, our culture has conditioned us to see this as him almost granting us permission or inviting us to accuse him of selfishness, of laziness, of sexual predatory behavior and thoughts. This reflex is sexist because it presumes moral guilt based entirely on the sex of the person complaining. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:55 PM
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No one is offering to fix her lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:52 PM
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It's not real lol. And the truth is that even if it were real we would all be worse off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:00 PM
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Lol, fuck no. Even if your impossible fantasy were real there is a difference between a real relationship based in mutual admiration respect and affection, vs a hideous parasocial addiction to a masturbatory aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:32 PM
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No it doesn't. Tf. I've done plenty of cross-denominational charity work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:23 PM
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Correct, systemic bigotry is harsher against men than women because there is an instinctive impulse to sympathize for women. This is not new though?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:14 PM
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Only way to build trust at all in life is via process of elimination. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:27 PM
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The only way I could make the money I am making now growing up where I did was undersea welding. One of the only trades more dangerous than mine. 🤷‍♂️ tf do you want from me? I'm not here to indulge your fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:24 AM
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Pregnant women don't have to cope with the long term wear and tear of decades of risking their life. Again, I would make the trade instantaneously without second thought. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:22 AM
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One gender gets scholarships for the genitals they were born with, and the same gender graduates at an increasing disparity rate over the other. Do the math.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:20 AM
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No, hypergamy just means you are attracted to people who you see as superior to you personally. It is compatible with the lifestyles of fully loyal traditional women and promiscuous party girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:19 AM
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So no coercion at all occurs in this magical little sorting hat fantasy you call an economy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:18 AM
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One gender recieves orders of magnitude more scholarships just for the genitals they were born with, and the other recieves none. The same gender that receives more scholarships also graduates more. So while my hyperbole may have been (predictably) hyperbolic, the point I am emphasizing by using hyperbole remains perfectly precise and valid. Also, if you are the CEO of Home Depot yes you literally are handing out college degrees specifically for the kind of medical care and research which extend…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:16 AM
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Because those men are scarred the most by women yet still try to find the humanity in them. I don't see any contradiction here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:12 AM
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I can choose the peril of childbearing? News to me! Lmao I don't hate my job, it just inflicts daily stress on me that is compounded by how the only people who seem to appreciate it are other men. Honestly, I am kind of jealous about pregnancy. I'm man enough to admit that despite the obvious glaring downsides I think it would be an intensely positive and perspective-expanding experience for me to get pregnant. No, women are across the board repelled by work that is physically dangerous. You can…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:16 PM
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What's a "women's job"? How many of them carry daily risk of death?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:02 PM
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If you have a college degree, which isn't just handed to you for your gender if you are a man. And if you live in the right zip code with the right connections. Most people don't have the privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:01 PM
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Do you have any examples? How many ended in her initiating divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:57 PM
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Well chalk this up to your feelings being incapbable of perceiving reality, since they don't prove me wrong lol. I'm not arguing electricians are in more peril than pregnant women (even if I were your statistics don't prove or disprove that either). I am arguing I would take the peril of pregnancy over the peril of my job, and that practically all women who get pregnant have the exact same priorities. This you failed to acknowledge, much less disprove. Which is why your statistics are irrelevant…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:55 PM
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No thanks, I don't perform emotions I'm not feeling. Comes with valuing honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:47 PM
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And practically zero women work those jobs, but practically all women love to pretend they value equity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:46 PM
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Because women avoid all jobs that carry such risk, in proportion to the severity and frequency of that risk. You could just ask me instead of talking about me like a specimen on a vivisection table. Guess whoever raised you didn't know how to respect others either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:45 PM
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Because it was the only job offering enough pay to cover the cost of my mom's medical treatments. I live in the US. My options were to take on life threatening work to get hazard pay to keep my mom alive or watch my mom die. So the answer really boils down coercion, ultimately, like all gender roles men are still saddled with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:44 PM
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Irrelevant. I'll still take a minimal risk of death 2-5 times over the course of my life than every working day of my life from 18yo-65. And based on the numbers of women in the trades, practically all women think the exact same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:40 PM
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Looks like the only way to 'give them a chance' to even out the gender ratio in critical trades is by force 🤷‍♂️ they got 30 years of chances and somehow missed all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:39 PM
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No, to anyone. Women do not date down unless it's a teacher molesting a student. Which, come to think of it, did happen to me. So wrong on both counts, good job 🤟
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:37 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:34 PM
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Ok. Create life without taking anything from a man, and you'll get all the credit. I will show you how to apply for a Nobel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:34 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:26 PM
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*more women who feel safe in their ability to express their anxiety and depression to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:25 PM
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How could you possibly know lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:24 PM
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Ok, so would you say the same degree of prejudice is warranted for anyone who survived being the victim of a crime carried out by a black person?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:15 PM
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Newflash: the gender/clulture war is mass media makework. It's kayfabe. It's rage bait and dog whistles all the way down
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:03 PM
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Then you are unobservant. How many women do you know who are willing and eager to have sex with a man they think of as less valuable than themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:02 PM
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Nah, they won't because it never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:01 PM
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Hypergamy is completely compatible with monogamy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:00 PM
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Easily said, but those same roles underpin our entire civilization's infrastructure foundation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:59 PM
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I'll take all three over working every day of my life right next to a power line that will kill me instantly if I or any of the half dozen men I work with make a single misstep or oversight. Not even a question in my mind about it. If women didn't feel the exact same way more would become apprentice electricians.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:58 PM
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Men are not choosing to stick to them, men are coerced into sticking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:55 PM
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Women are not expendable lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:26 PM
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Resolution does not make revenue streams, so there is no incentive for these issues to be addressed at macroscopic scale - where they can make a real difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:25 PM
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What equality of opportunity? Young women are outperforming young men in educational opportunities by orders of magnitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:23 PM
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Lol @ "forgetting". Nobody forgot men's gender role, and based on the gender ratio of the trades and combat roles in the military the vast majority of women haven't expanded their gender role to include taking on any real risk to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:23 PM
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