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They should be increasing since regular dating started decreasing Ill take that as no, you don’t have any evidence of such
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:53 PM
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If those are the “future” of dating, they should be increasing, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:52 PM
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Those are very good sources but they do not prove that 1) there is more casual sex than previously (all indicators say it’s going down) 2) there is more sex work/compensated dating than previously
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:43 PM
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Same as men: being unreasonable, unattractive or desperate Almost like it’s a human thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:52 PM
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The women in question indeed tell us so, so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:51 PM
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Again, ur welcome to try. You won’t though, just complain
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:46 PM
1

Of course we do, that’s why we’re blamed for wearing clothing, being alone with men, drinking around men, provoking men, leading men on, not choosing better men, having sex with men, not expecting to be raped or victimized by men….
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:23 PM
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So powerless! It’s so sad that you have no autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:45 PM
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Of course, cuz I get blamed if I’m not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:40 PM
1

Guess you got nothing to offer people that’s better than sex 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:38 PM
1

Mm, every woman is on TikTok and the same ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:33 PM
2

No country does this, so no This is just inflammatory rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:30 PM
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I’m afraid sex is consensual
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:29 PM
1

Ah, so success requires no effort ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:28 PM
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To make better choices because it’s women’s fault
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:28 PM
2

I don’t, cuz I’m not going to be blamed if I’m not racist, nor have people been telling me to be racist my whole life
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:26 PM
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Nope. Almost nobody
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:38 AM
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Not all relationships end in marriage, did you know ? And divorce is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:23 AM
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That’s very predictable, because people don’t fear women. Ever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:22 AM
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Because a lot of people don’t like gays, women, minorities and immigrants, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:21 AM
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You’re the one who says that sex shouldn’t be a big deal, so you tell us what should be a big deal I’m gonna bet you have no answer to that, cuz you never do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:19 AM
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I don’t believe so, and I’m pretty sure most first worlders don’t want third world policies
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:19 PM
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Doesn’t change that no successful country does what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:15 PM
2

Since she gets paid either way, nope
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:15 PM
1

Of course it can, and pretty much every developed country does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:56 PM
0

Whiners aren’t looking to be successful
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:53 PM
-2

Not relevant. What is relevant is that when a man behaves badly, it’s the victims fault that they didn’t adequately avoid or protect themselves from him And then men wonder why people avoid and protect themselves from them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:50 PM
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They have a choice as to how they behave, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:49 PM
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That will make more unwanted kids, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:49 PM
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Then provide the reciepts for that claim
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:48 PM
1

You’ll have to show increases in compensated and casual dating to prove your point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:46 PM
1

And lots of unwanted kids entering the underclass. No thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:44 PM
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Of course toxic women exist Who would we have to gossip about and judge if there weren’t ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:42 PM
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No evidence of that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:40 PM
1

History says nah
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:38 PM
1

It’s called delusional absolutism
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:34 PM
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And lack of penalty will incentivize more male abandonment
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:27 PM
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Nope. That way you get third world conditions. Most of us don’t want to be fighting off hordes of street kids and gangs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:25 PM
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Most people don’t specify young men; you are free to link evidence to the contrary if you disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:15 PM
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Men simply deny they have a choice in how they behave, so it’s automatically women’s fault
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:13 PM
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They can, and it’s unlikely lol, assumptions are fun; keep going — what else do you want to make up about me to serve your narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:08 PM
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Doesn’t matter; not having to pay rather than pay incentives leaving
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:57 PM
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Nope. That incentivizes abandonment by fathers even more
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:51 PM
1

Well you won’t know if effort will get you sex until you do if
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:51 PM
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Men waiting for marriage are a small minority, and again, they’re not looking to date. They’re looking for basically an arranged marriage Most men are out there trying to get as much as they can with the least amount of effort, of either sex or relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:49 PM
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Dumb kids have sex all the time. Animals have sex all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:03 PM
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We’ve all seen porn, bro It’s men who portray their own dicks as “dirtying”, hence their obsession with sluts and n counts and “used up” women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:02 PM
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What should men be doing instead of pursuing and prioritizing sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:01 PM
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Yeah, so its possible if people make an effort, like the OP says
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:00 PM
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Mhm, women never justify or take accountability for their choices, ever, and all want the same thing and have the same pursuits, suuuuuree, very realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:00 PM
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Those assumptions underlie the entire system of dating. Otherwise, men wouldn’t have to ask, pay and wait
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:57 PM
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That’s what they claim. You calling them liars? Education and exposure to diversity has been proven to change people’s minds very effectively, which is why many groups oppose them Sounds like a bunch of self serving thoughts you made up in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:23 AM
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That’s what men say they want, and don’t actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:01 AM
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And OP hasn’t provided much evidence of that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:22 AM
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Plenty of bigots change their beliefs when their bubbles, echo chambers and circle jerks are breached Who said we had to be “tribal” about it? That’s your invention
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:20 PM
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Yes, and those women are rude, and I’m guessing young and impudent?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:09 PM
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Most times when I sympathized with a man about his problems, both online and irl, I got either a request for sex or misogyny. This is a common experience for women, judging from complaints about the friend/fuckzone, stalking, harassment, etc I no longer feel the need to offer sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:06 PM
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Of course it does. Because bigots have an interest in normalizing and spreading bigotry
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:02 PM
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If you’re getting this impression from social media, that’s on you. Public hate of anyone is considered bad manners
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:55 PM
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Because traditionalism is based on obligations
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:53 PM
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Oh, is that what all women on Reddit are doing ? Spoiler: most women have tried helping men at some point, and we learned our lesson. I certainly did
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:49 PM
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Of course oppression and bigotry have motives, we all know that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:47 PM
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I think some of them will actually live by the principles they push, but not many or a majority And it also doesn’t mean they are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:46 PM
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No, not at all. I am talking about general motives and behaviors, the most significant being the generally male desire for “as many as possible for me only” with the generally female desire for “the best possible for me” Those two imperatives guarantee conflict
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:41 PM
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You say “abusing and bullying”, I say “pushing back against misogyny, bias, self interest and stereotyping”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:19 PM
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I assure you that the manosphere and feminists aren’t the only one involved in gender conflict
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:11 PM
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They care, because the person affects them directly. But they’re still prejudiced
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:10 PM
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Then they don’t mean all, and they’re still misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:51 PM
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If you say you hate all men, you’re anti men Is this hard to understand or….?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:41 PM
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I’m afraid there is no formula, cheat code, or universal Alas, you will have to think, make your own decisions, and have your own standards
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:35 PM
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IMO no
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:33 PM
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Do I think an extreme and biased anecdote/example proves a point ? No, no, I do not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:32 PM
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It’s not mainstream Red pill isn’t mainstream either, unless you consider Tate red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:30 PM
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You have a very narrow view of what the “battle of the sexes” entails
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:27 PM
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So? Not talking about it doesn’t make the motivations and desires disappear The sexes are in conflict because of our basic biology, which drives and affects much of our behaviors. Can’t get away from that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:01 PM
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Anthropology/history/biology begs to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:59 PM
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You’re only serially monogamous if you base your relationship on the honeymoon phase
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:58 PM
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Again, conflict doesn’t cease to exist just because it’s hidden or suppressed. Motives matter and affect actions and decisions, and of course feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:53 PM
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You obviously have an opinion and think these people are wrong, so what do you think the “truth” about “dating difficulties” (a very vague wording, btw) is ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:52 PM
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So improvement isn’t an option ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:50 PM
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“Grifting” doesn’t necessarily mean lying about reality or a problem, it just means that you don’t believe in it or the methods of addressing it yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:22 PM
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It’s not a guarantee, so they won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:21 PM
1

And when it’s not working ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:20 PM
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Just because irl has consequences doesn’t mean the agendas disappear
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:19 PM
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Of course it does, because we get blamed when we don’t treat men like rapist murderers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:18 PM
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Someone didn’t think their reasoning through, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:30 PM
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Men would never want to be treated the way they treat women. The fact that this is not obvious to you is pretty telling
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:28 PM
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Yes, the formula is -6⅔ ÷ 1.96³ + 3⅚² + 1⅛⁷ ÷ 3⁸ ÷ e
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:15 PM
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Cool story; still disrespect
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:11 PM
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“People don’t take women less seriously because they are women.” “A large part of the bias comes from the fact that women are strongly associated with children, both physically and behaviorally, but mainly physically.” Pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:10 PM
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I don’t see or hear of content of any of those, so nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:08 PM
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I frankly find it sad and pitiable that it’s so hard for them to be decent, inoffensive and considerate of others Because I don’t find it hard at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:06 PM
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If you wanted to do the things to someone that men want to do women, could you respect them or see them as equal ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:05 PM
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Who said you know better?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:04 PM
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Sounds like this is a personal issue; I suggest therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:06 AM
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Why are you all convinced women are lez? Is there a TikTok going around? Did Trump tweet something?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:02 AM
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Being equal is being a servant, according to you What a conundrum!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:00 AM
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“Almost always” “The vast majority” I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:02 AM
2

Unfortunately, most women are warned and policed over men by men I certainly was, by the men who raised me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:00 AM
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It is to the kid
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:00 AM
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That’s what it means practically speaking. Get victimized by a man, and it’s pretty much your fault unless he attacked you in broad daylight out of nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:59 AM
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“They expect men to open the doors and, clean the house be equal. Basically be like their servant.” — you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:58 AM
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So she is the embodiment of every woman to you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:34 AM
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No one gave me money, did stuff for me or gave men the means of independence for being a woman 🤷‍♀️ Life as a mid
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:33 AM
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Yeah, so way less than men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:32 AM
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Nope, men took more free time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:07 AM
0

What happened to “men have to treat it as [a big deal] in response”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:03 AM
0

Still doesn’t mean men care about what women want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:58 AM
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Just because you think most women are queer doesn’t mean they are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:22 AM
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Homosocial doesn’t mean homosexual I promise you that if I actually liked pussy and tits, I would be all over them, cuz women are pretty darn great
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:57 PM
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I didn’t. That’s why I’m asking If you want more than you need, you don’t really need, don’t you think ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:55 PM
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And you’d be very very wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:48 PM
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Women think domestic labor, romance and feelings are a big deal, and also looks, but men don’t treat them as such 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:45 PM
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Not often enough for men’s taste. We’re too picky and only want Chad, apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:43 PM
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Oh, so men don’t need sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:42 PM
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And you conveniently ignored that she debunked your point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:39 PM
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It means you will be blamed for trusting and being vulnerable to a man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:37 PM
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Mhm, suuuure, that’s what you meant
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 08:09 PM
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Yes, but not as much as a guy would
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:44 PM
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If you didn’t mean “equality”, why did you say it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:16 PM
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Oh boy, you used his favorite word
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:16 PM
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Dating a child is not a perk, sorry to inform you. It’s more work, and we don’t want that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:15 PM
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You yourself called it equality So it appears that your ideal situation is inequality, with women being less than Why would a woman would want to sign up for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:30 PM
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Having a greater desire makes it a big deal If people are obsessed with something, that automatically makes it a big deal Somehow you do not understand that people’s minds control their reality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:24 PM
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If that were so, we would have sex with men, who always want to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:21 PM
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Nope, cuz we were oppressed before
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:20 PM
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Because men are very into sex, and will fight tooth and nail to get it. Ever try and take away their porn ? Woof
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:48 PM
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Why shouldn’t we expect more now that we work ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:47 PM
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Nope, you said not getting sex isn’t oppression but feels like it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:34 PM
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Why is equality being a servant? Why is cleaning your own house oppression?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:26 PM
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Interesting that men aren’t really disagreeing with OP on this one. It’s mostly women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:24 PM
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Because that’s who and what you pay attention to, aka bias
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:28 AM
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So? Doesn’t stop us from using them, unlike men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:25 AM
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Citations needed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:49 AM
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I’m afraid the majority does these things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:40 AM
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I don’t decide what men pay attention to, spend time and money on, talk about, admire and emulate Men do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:37 AM
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If that were so, we would never have sex, dates or marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:35 AM
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You’re free to be flippant about both, I promise
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:34 AM
0

You’re free to buy your own baby if it’s so easy then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:33 AM
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Who said it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:32 AM
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Nope. Morality is not transactionalism
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:32 AM
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Responsible men who let their wives do most of the work and then are shocked when they get divorced
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:31 AM
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So? Your opinion was feelings not facts, contrary to what you stated above
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:30 AM
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Sure it is. It’s plummeting because women can’t find the men they need to have the babies and marriages that they want
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:10 AM
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It’s very relevant as to why women don’t have as many kids as they want to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:06 AM
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“I just said it wasn’t but it could feel that way” — you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:06 AM
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Women only have options because men freely give them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:02 AM
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If we wanted to be indiscriminate hornballs like men, we would be, since contraceptives have been available for 80 years We don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:57 AM
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Men can change that at any time, so it is not oppression or injustice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:56 AM
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I don’t see men making registries or having baby showers, or shopping for clothes and toys 🤷‍♀️ I’ll bet way more fathers than mothers don’t know who their kids teachers, friends, doctors or birthdays are
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:51 AM
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No, I think they’re fucking around, like young men like to do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:49 AM
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Career success is the most meaningful thing that men have. We reward male professional success immensely, with money, attention, awards, power, praise, media, fame, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:48 AM
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Sex is more available to women than men because men like sex more than women. Logical, no? I could order a gangbang to my door in 30 minutes for free, because men like sex more than women. You could not, because women don’t like sex as much as men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:42 AM
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Half of those men aren’t looking for relationships, yes, so I’m happy that they aren’t being forced to have them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:40 AM
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I don’t see how divorce and custody is related to babies that already exist So? Increased effort doesn’t mean more effort than women And your numbers are taken only from people that didn’t already have kids; when you ask the general population, it’s over 75% for both genders https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/18/us-adults-in-their-20s-and-30s-plan-to-have-fewer-children-than-in-the-past/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:40 AM
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Less is not none, and to be expected
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:26 AM
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And yet women divorce them twice as often and receive the majority of custody. Which is, btw, often based on care
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:21 AM
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Since most people fuck, date and marry, I don’t see most people being “alone”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:20 AM
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The sex industry is almost entirely female providers and male clients Men outnumber women on dating apps by at least 2:1 Men are the ones complaining about lack of sex and the friendzone, while women complain about pervs, harassment and the fuckzone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:17 AM
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Sure, men want to posses genetic trophies. Want to nurture, care for and raise them ? Not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:14 AM
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We do, and that makes men upset. Because we used to be unable to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:13 AM
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That’s not what men believe or what the data indicates
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:11 AM
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Of course it is, because women do most of the domestic management and childcare Of course women want men. Some of us just won’t prioritize men above ourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:10 AM
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I’m afraid motherhood and marriage are indeed portrayed as the great, virtuous sacrifices that they are, especially by the social groups that idealize them the most, ie tradcons and the religious
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:02 AM
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Women love love, romance, family and babies. They obsess over and fixate on those things the same way men do about sex And they need men in order to have them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:00 AM
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Just because the odds are good doesn’t mean the goods aren’t odd
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:59 PM
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No, we just don’t value sex the way men do. And there’s nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:45 PM
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It doesn’t, because I don’t believe in the red pill; you do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:43 PM
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No, because not dominant and not masculine men have relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:17 PM
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My opinion isn’t relevant because I don’t believe in it. You do, as a red piller
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:17 PM
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You’re red pill, so you already know it’s some babble about securing the best genes and/or resources for kids, blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:00 PM
0

Yes, but you are not an average American man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:57 PM
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If you want a conservative, traditional relationship, yes. I don’t agree that relationships in the many other countries I’ve lived in are much better
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:49 PM
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A distinction without a difference, because people don’t come with their morality and motives tattooed on their foreheads Thus, all are suspect and must be vetted and suspected
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:47 PM
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I don’t think so; red pill is very clear what hypergamy is (women being biologically driven to get the “highest value” male whenever possible) and I do not believe in it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:45 PM
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I just stated why I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:27 PM
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You don’t know me and every person, so no, you cannot verify that. Unless you are going to use some bullshit definition of “frame” such as “not obeying or agreeing with everything”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:06 PM
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Nope, not the same things; hypergamy means “better” in any capacity, in the red pill terminology — money, status, novelty, emotional availability, etc. Also unique to red pill is the assertion that “all women” are hypergamous and thus inherently disloyal and unloving. Not even misogynist religions went that far They are very relevant. Societal motivations are extremely influential, usually resulting in laws, social status, norms and traditions, such as not allowing women to vote or educate thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:58 PM
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No, you don’t need to believe in those things, that is a choice. Dating and interactions don’t have to be antagonistic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:54 PM
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Facts can influence opinions, did you know ? Opinions based on evidence are actually considered better than ones that aren’t, crazily enough
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:54 PM
1

Opinions/feelings aren’t correct or incorrect, they can just be biased or self serving, which yours is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:55 PM
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It can be interpreted many ways You’re trad, so that’s why I brought it up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:54 PM
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Ok, I misunderstood your point. My point remains — I didn’t let a scam prevent me from getting what I wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:53 PM
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Then why don’t you date an ugly or fat person on principle The purpose of politicians isn’t to have desired sex with them, by the way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:49 PM
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I’m not taking away, I’m just interrogating it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:46 PM
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Because you used retribution as an excuse for not using a service
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:45 PM
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No, that commenter said morality isn’t transactional, and then proceeded to say morality isn’t moral because it’s not transactional Not my fault his reasoning is faulty
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:44 PM
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No, he said morality wasnt transactional, and then proceeded to say morality isn’t moral because he hasn’t transactionally benefited
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:42 PM
1

So you pick and choose which Godly sanction to obey ? That doesn’t seem to be very spiritual God also said polygamy and slavery was fine until it wasn’t for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:23 PM
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“Men need variety! It’s our biological imperative to spread our seed!” Hey, God said to be fruitful and multiply. You wanna argue with God?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:00 PM
2

Ignoring the law and other people is generally not a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:57 PM
2

Not at all. The law and morality exist precisely to balance individual desires
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:08 PM
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More than women, as indicated by the evidence, and yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:06 PM
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The point is that women aren’t feared or suspected but men are And everyone, not just women, agrees with it That’s why dads and other men warn women about male behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:05 PM
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Opinions are allowed, and I already gave it to you. So let’s hear your reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:01 PM
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Prostitution is not polygamy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:59 PM
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Source for an opinion ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:59 PM
2

So there is an issue to debate Let’s hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:39 PM
2

Ashley Madison shows very clearly who has more morals
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:38 PM
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That we’re not going to treat women like men and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:37 PM
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Not to women. Many of us find no one preferable to anyone, which is why men are upset
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:36 PM
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Who said it was? It just means that I am not afraid of women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:34 PM
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It explains the logical reason why women are trusted and men are not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:34 PM
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It an explanation of the woman are wonderful effect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:33 PM
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It’s not about responsibility. It’s about risk management
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:32 PM
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Why do we have to be shitty like men ? I don’t feel the need to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:31 PM
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It does, because it affects everyone’s behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:30 PM
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We have to, because otherwise we get blamed for trusting and not being wary of men Society doesn’t have time to do individual risk assessment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:28 PM
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Yes. Men are always complaining about men but not women being distrusted and suspected And that’s why
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:26 PM
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Women are human and also part of society, and are not excluded from who women want to interact with Again, complete isolation is not what women, or indeed anyone, wants
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:20 PM
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The first actionable commandment of red pill is to “lift”, so no, they are very much into looks None of the rest of that information is unique to red pill Concepts that are unique to red pill: Hypergamy/“female nature” Societal “malice”, aka society “lying” to men “Gynocentrism”, aka the reason society lies to men “Tests” and “frame”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:12 PM
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There’s no way to disprove that if your rebuttal is that anyone who’s not with a dominant, masculine man is lying, unhappy or unsatisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:10 PM
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Men say they do, and I believe them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:08 PM
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If marriage was strictly a financial or status institution, sure, that could happen Spoiler: it is not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:08 PM
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Because they could easily cheat, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:06 PM
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“The law” applies to women too, did you know? It’s meant to enforce morality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:05 PM
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Yes, and that’s why we will interrogate “feels”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:04 PM
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Part of “better” is the success rate, as stated in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:57 PM
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No, because I don’t believe in forcing people to do things they don’t want to, which is the only way to resolve men’s dissatisfaction with how much sex and relationships they are having If relationships are voluntary, the only way to fix them is to make them involuntary
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:36 PM
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Yes. Because they are unsatisfied with marriages, not with sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:34 PM
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A system is not personal, obviously. I prefer to be the ends, not the means
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:33 PM
1

If there is a dramatic difference, that means it is obvious. And I doubt that there is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:32 PM
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All sorts. Misogyny, racism, homophobia, antisemitism, anti-religious bigotry, religious bigotry, anti immigrant sentiment, rape apology, pedophilia, victim blaming, and of course, straight up perving Get a few drinks into a guy and a lot of unsavory stuff comes out
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:27 PM
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And feels motivate behaviors and opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:48 AM
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I don’t find his reasoning convincing, and I am free to say so
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:47 AM
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Who said it’s better? It’s just more likely
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:46 AM
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So no, becoming Chad is not a more realistic strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:43 AM
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Because he is tormented by his lack of casual sex, to the point of behaving immorally
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:41 AM
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Why does dating have to be equal? Especially if doing so means that women have to fuck men they don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:40 AM
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People doing what they want and not doing what they don’t want isn’t oppression Either you want people to want sex with you, or you don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:39 AM
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Nobody’s forcing nobody to do nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:37 AM
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How often do men get killed by sex workers, now? Do you think it’s more or less than the number of sex workers that get killed by clients? Why would I receive retribution from a gardener who scammed me? I didn’t prosecute them; I just chalked it up to bad luck and hired a more reputable one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:23 AM
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I’m not. Most people do not find those things attractive, just as they don’t find ugliness or obesity attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:07 AM
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Sure, but you didn’t specify that in your post
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:04 AM
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Because social benefits are not withheld from men, as you agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:03 AM
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Is awkwardness and disability attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:02 AM
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You’re right, it’s not a transaction but a principle — I will act how I wish others would act, but without expectation of benefit What you define as morality is actually transactionalism, ie, expecting individual benefit for individual action
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:02 AM
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Not at all. People do things because of the principle of reciprocity/morality, not personal benefit Progression can help men, in matters of health, mental health, gender expectations,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:59 AM
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Whenever he wants, obviously. I’m not trying to persuade you to do anything, btw, just engaging in your reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:47 AM
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Morality, sociality, reciprocity, progression, improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:45 AM
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Or, you have a transactional mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:43 AM
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I think you are claiming that men don’t benefit from society so they don’t need to contribute. Which is clearly false
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:43 AM
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Sure. But you are speaking generally in your post, not just for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:41 AM
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Only if you’re expecting a reward for it. Many people do it just because it’s moral, not profitable or transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:40 AM
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Because that’s your reason. And it’s not a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:39 AM
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You don’t need to, because the benefits are obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:38 AM
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There’s plenty of reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:38 AM
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I’d guess the vast majority of women have not scorned or called you evil
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:37 AM
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He didn’t. But he did provide an explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:35 AM
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If women aren’t cheating they way they could, it implies that they aren’t unsatisfied. Especially since men claim they cheat because they are unsatisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:33 AM
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What kind of reciprocation? Sex and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:30 AM
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No, you said men told to deal with their shit by themselves, which is clearly untrue And that they are entitled for expecting “anything” from society, also untrue
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:29 AM
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What you have individually done or not done doesn’t affect a system of billions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:26 AM
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We have no way of proving if anyone has put in effort on an individual level
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:25 AM
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People never stop receiving benefits from society, even if they don’t contribute. We have no way of verifying what you’ve done for individual people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:24 AM
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If you’re awkward and disabled, you are less attractive, platonically and romantically It may not be deserved, but it’s logical
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:21 AM
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“Well no, in one case she's attracted to you, in the other she's not. That is a dramatic difference”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:20 AM
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No, because “trust me bro” isn’t reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:20 AM
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You can if you expect people to behave similarly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:16 AM
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I did. And I bet if you didn’t know someone was paid, you couldn’t tell
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:15 AM
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No way to measure that except your own biases, conveniently But let’s say this — if every woman wanted to cheat, she could. Because men would be happy to oblige
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:14 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:12 AM
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He already volunteered that information
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:12 AM
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It is very believable that people don’t want to put in effort but receive benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:11 AM
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What do you give and not get back? Did I say it was guaranteed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:11 AM
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Of course you are. Men are the primary thing that women need male protection from Systems aren’t about individual contributions or culpability. Otherwise, we’d require personal farming, educational, construction, military, legal, etc, contributions from you if you were to benefit from the same; you benefit from the streamlining of taxes and shared contributions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:07 AM
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Yes, and that contradicts your claims in the previous comment that men are called entitled for expecting “anything” from women or society, and that you have to deal with your shit yourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:06 AM
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Red pill itself says that most men can’t be Chads, and so uses “game” and “strategy” to compensate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:01 AM
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The fact that red pill is a minority movement and most men fuck, date and marry says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:00 AM
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Uh huh, if someone paid a woman to fuck you and you didn’t know, you’d 100% be able to tell, is that right ? And since so many men seem fine with “dog shit”, I’m going to doubt that it’s that different
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:59 AM
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Again, the absolute is the issue, not the reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:57 AM
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“Dramatic difference” is the part I doubt and that you cannot confirm And if it was so pronounced or mattered to men so much, prostitution wouldn’t be the oldest and one of the most lucrative industries in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:43 AM
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Yes. We don’t have to accept that as “truth”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:42 AM
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Again, saying “it’s because you chose Chad” anytime a woman complains is not probability
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:41 AM
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I didn’t say they didn’t. Red pill just claims to be “the truth”, while blue pill is “lies”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:25 AM
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Everyone give a flying fuck, because almost no one is willing to live in complete isolation and never see another human ever
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:54 AM
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Still doesn’t make it meaningful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:52 AM
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I assure you that we already know that women are picky and men are indiscriminate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:51 AM
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So you are talking out of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:49 AM
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Have you been to a sex worker ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:46 AM
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So? We’re not comparing emotional to unemotional sex, we’re comparing free vs paid unemotional sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:39 AM
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Is that the normal or expected outcome ? I got scammed by a gardner, didn’t stop me from hiring another one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:37 AM
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I like Lilith, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:34 AM
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Is becoming Chad a more realistic strategy than not being a recluse/antisocial ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:32 AM
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If you’re nice and considerate, why does no one want to be your friend ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:30 AM
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For more effort and no guarantee? Mmkay
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:27 AM
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For a single squirt? Seems like the same thing in the end, for more effort — unless you’re really hot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:25 AM
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How is a one-off “liking” a person in any meaningful way, other than their body?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:24 AM
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Why? In the end it’s just about as meaningful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:23 AM
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Higher expectations come with more disappointment, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:22 AM
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Am I supposed to be rude if I’m not interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:20 AM
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What you’re playing for also matters, and can differ
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:12 AM
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The fact that most people fuck, date and marry,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:12 AM
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That’s PUA, aka red pill minus the misogyny And if you’re looking for anyone, not someone, it will probably work Problem is, most of us aren’t looking for “anyone”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:10 AM
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If you can cheat, we can cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:09 AM
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Is 62% a “vast majority”? https://np.reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/s/NTIaIXNCzY
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:10 AM
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First you claim men are invisible to women on a post about dating and relationships, then you shift and say it’s about visibility in general, and then you say visibility is not the correct word. Wanna move those goalposts more? I’d like to see where they’ll go
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:17 AM
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Mhm, are men the only ones complaining about dbs?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:11 AM
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Citations needed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:00 AM
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Such as…..?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:04 PM
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Faltering as in…?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:58 PM
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Most men aren’t delusional or entitled. Laziness is just very easy, and socializing is hard
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:37 PM
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“Instead of just taking” Didn’t read what I wrote; typical
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:01 PM
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Do you understand what “reciprocity” is ? It’s a very basic level of interaction that even animals employ Let me give a concrete example: if my mom died, I’d have no reason to talk to my dad, because he never talks to or shows interest in anything about me. My bfs dad, on the other hand, shows up to family gatherings and cooks and socializes, with his new wife and adult stepkids
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:55 PM
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I’m afraid that men are not in fact barred from collective societal benefits such as education, safety, utilities, employment, the legal system, transport, roads, services, social security, health care, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:25 PM
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Most men get angry when women don’t give a flying fuck And even back in the Stone Age, not giving a flying fuck was not normal Humans are social omnivores, not solitary carnivores or vegetarians
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:22 PM
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If men left us alone, we wouldn’t require men to intervene Men are their own protection racket
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:19 PM
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Oh really? They have no family and friends ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:04 PM
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Hey, you make claims such as women treating most men with “irritation”, you better back it up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:04 PM
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Sounds like an excuse to not do anything for anyone but yourself With logical results
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:02 PM
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Great, it’s good to verify absolute statements with proof
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:26 PM
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Same thing, if you base it off looks alone and don’t care what they want. Most women don’t want to be found attractive by as many people as men do, because we don’t want to fuck as many people as men do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:24 PM
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And they aren’t, so I see no issue
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:24 PM
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Because Chad is hot and you aren’t, and you already know this. That’s also why women with big tits get attention and free stuff (and also harassment) and I don’t, and there is nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:20 PM
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Or, you could reciprocate instead of just taking. Absent/indifferent dads, family members, spouses and friends are very common. The men who put in effort into people tend to recieve back; the ones who grunt and watch sports all day, not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:17 PM
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That is what being desired is, yes. What you actually do doesn’t change what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:11 PM
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So what would the breakdown be by gender for irritated, indifferent and visible interactions?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:08 PM
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So, most women in a random street video would be observed being hostile to men only, and men would be indifferent to both genders ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:59 PM
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Please elaborate on what specific gendered difference we would see
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:58 PM
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Interesting. So there is a marked and noticeable difference in the way men and women treat others that everyone would agree on ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:53 PM
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Ok, so most women treat men with hostility, not indifference? This is very hard to clarify, since you’re being so vague about it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:06 PM
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You are attracted to their looks or to their dysfunction?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:04 PM
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Aww, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:41 PM
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They don’t like people who don’t do what they want. I’m sure they like people who do what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:38 PM
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Since more than 20% of women are in relationships, looks don’t matter to quite a few of them, which is very unshallow
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:37 PM
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That’s great, because that means women aren’t shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:30 PM
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Ok, how do men treat most women differently from the way most women treat men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:23 PM
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Nope. Plenty of women complain that they always put effort into finding and giving thoughtful gifts while the man gets them a bowling ball or nothing Women love talking about their relationships, both irl and on social media. You’d probably call it “performative” and insincere Most of us do care for our partners by buying or doing things they like or need, although it probably doesn’t count as much because it’s not sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:22 PM
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You’d see the same for any social media post featuring a servile woman, did you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:15 PM
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Unattractive, aka physically offensive, is a minority, not average
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:10 PM
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Sure, one woman represents all 4 billion of us. Completely and totally Just like Trump represents all American men, every single one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:08 PM
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Why is polite indifference bad? What should we be doing instead ? Let’s hear how everyone should be interacting with each other platonically
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:26 PM
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Then I see no substantive difference in the way the genders treat each other — aka with polite indifference — nor do I see an issue with it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:04 PM
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Not always They also portray all average men as good because only attractive men do bad things. If a woman ever has a bad experience, it’s because she chose an attractive man instead of an unattractive man Exhibit A of “women go for assholes and not nice guys like me” https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/ck2Z7bVQY8
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:47 PM
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Men aren’t just indifferent to harassers, misogynists and sexual assaulters. They defend, minimize or deny what they’ve done, and call women liars, exaggerators or overly sensitive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:38 PM
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Maybe to you. Most people would just straight up go to a sex worker
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:35 PM
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I don’t find it illogical or unreasonable that men primarily value their partners for sex, since sex is extremely important to men, according to men Don’t you believe men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:00 PM
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Nope. Indifference isn’t objectification. Wanting to use someone’s body for sexual gratification is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:51 PM
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All of us, hm? Not just the loud and obvious ones, right? By that metric, all men sexually harass me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:48 PM
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Traits such as…?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:47 PM
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Way more men have offended me with their words and actions than their faces and bodies, so I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:45 PM
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Is that unnatural or a moral failing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:45 PM
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It just means we don’t have male libidos
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:43 PM
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Women don’t consider wanting to fuck someone a big deal, nor virtuous. Because it isn’t. It’s selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:42 PM
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I’m afraid that thinking “I’d hit that” isn’t considered “visible” to most women Being an object isn’t being a person
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:41 PM
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Way more men have offended me with their words and actions than their faces and bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:39 PM
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You do realize that porn, like most things, is mostly meh or even shit? And that shit porn isn’t quality ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:38 PM
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Giving gifts, being loving and declarative, doing favors and care, and being considerate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:37 PM
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Nope, I’m afraid women do love stuff and gestures too. And have feelings and such
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:53 AM
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“Lucky kid”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:42 AM
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Women want to love men, but also themselves; romance is unfortunately a mutual endeavor A lot of women don’t want babies. But more do, and are even desperate for them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:38 AM
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Nope. Sounds like a minority fetish for both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:45 AM
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Men would rather complain about and focus on looks, because that’s easier than being likable and liking others
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:44 AM
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You appear to have forgotten the point of your own post, which is that society “programs” men to think being raped is a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:42 AM
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Not if your point is that women don’t bring anything as important as sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:41 AM
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Yes, and your point was that men think it’s cool, not horrible. While women think the opposite of male teachers and female students
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:32 AM
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It does. You think society tells them to do it; I think men are pervs all on their own Even back when sex was heavily shamed for both sexes, men were still whoring, raping and lusting If even the threat of eternal suffering doesn’t work, I’d have to say it’s pretty inherent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:29 AM
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Nope, it clearly shows that sex is the priority
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:53 PM
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It’s plausible that porn is consensual while SA is not, by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:13 PM
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Obviously your sex drive is incompatible with monogamy so I will decline dating you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:12 PM
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I like honesty, and it matches up with women’s complaints about being fuckzoned
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:37 PM
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When men ask women what they bring besides their bodies and say they feel love through sex only, that is the correct conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:36 PM
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Plenty of men would be happy to only receive sex and service from their partners. Since, ya know, women are boring and dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:34 PM
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Nope, there were plenty of good reasons why your point wasn’t clear In any case, what men say irl and on social media is just as valid as what women say in influencing the discourse; it’s not unilateral or disproportionate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:44 PM
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“and I mean actual patriarchy not the radfem bullshit in Korea and Japan is beginning to cause grave concerns” This is a run-on sentence and your meaning was unclear. Commas are your friend And plenty of men do consider the 4B movement to be “radfem”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:14 PM
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You can be friendly with some who still lets you do most of the work or childcare
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:48 PM
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I’m not prescribing or attacking anything You just brought up East Asian countries and called them radfems. I am merely correcting that There is no need to exaggerate with claims like “women find 99% of men unattractive”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:47 PM
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Friendship is mutual enjoyment of company Casual sex can be mutual enjoyment of sex Relationships can be mutual enjoyment of sex and company
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:10 PM
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People can be transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:43 PM
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Nope, otherwise relationships would be prostitution or sex slavery
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:42 PM
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How do you know it’s not ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:41 PM
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Oh, so you have female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:28 PM
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I have not seen this irl or on social media — do they say such on twox or dating sites ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:41 PM
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It’s not baffling; a lot of guys just don’t like people, and women in particular. But they want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:39 PM
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Men say this all the time, and even men don’t believe them. So weird
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:37 PM
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Not necessarily; if they can feel love, it’s through sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:37 PM
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Au contraire: can you imagine women saying stuff like this? https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/xTwAMSF8Rg https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/HxPl8jKJL0
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:30 PM
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You would have a point if male and female animals had identical sexual behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:24 PM
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Only seeing women as sex objects is sexist, and perfectly illustrates OPs point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:23 PM
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There’s very little flexibility within Korean and Japanese social systems — neither men nor society are willing to change roles and responsibilities, so the only option for women is to opt out or minimize their commitment. That is why their sex and fertility rates are low and will likely continue to decrease Same with their work culture in general, frankly, it’s either all or nothing. There’s a good example of blaming women right there, denying that men do these things
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:20 PM
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lol, men are the biggest misandrists
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:26 PM
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Now, now; it’s good when men are open and honest about these things, so we can avoid them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:24 PM
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You are illustrating the title of this post beautifully
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:11 PM
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Male and female animals do not exhibit identical sexual behavior, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:10 PM
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Oh, you fuck your friends, family, neighbors and work colleagues? You must be very happy, or very lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:08 PM
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Men don’t need to be “programmed”, it comes with the hardware
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:05 PM
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That stuff is happening in those counties because women didn’t push back, not because they did I don’t give advice or support to men anymore because I get either misogyny or sex requests when I do, and I’ve seen the same happen to plenty of women. Men themselves support this by complaining about women, their advice, and the friendzone Lesson learned
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:02 PM
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Be able to play popular songs on the piano. Worked so well his colleagues would roll their eyes whenever he did it Be a foreigner or around foreign women and speak a non-European language at least at an intermediate level Bartend, formerly or informally Card tricks (in context) Looks like someone never watched the Tao of Steve; granted, it is a very old movie at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:58 PM
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You have never observed male animals, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:45 PM
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“as countries become more developed” Press X to doubt that this happens in the next century, or at all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:45 PM
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Citation needed Most men in relationships want a squid shoved up their butts but are too shy to ask for it; they then take this out on society by betting on sports and wearing socks with sandals. Therefore, women need to shove squids up their partners’ butts to remedy this problem I don’t need to provide proof of this claim
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:43 PM
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Sex is the priority, followed by service and fidelity; actually liking the person is a distant third at best Men openly say this all the time; it’s not a secret
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:42 PM
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That’s not power, because no one is forced to do anything
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:02 AM
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Women love love and babies. They hold out for love and will even raise babies alone
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:02 AM
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They have as much power as men have
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:20 AM
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Again, women merely hold power by being less desperate and indiscriminate. That is neither difficult nor complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:59 AM
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Men have the power to take that power away anytime they want. He doesn’t have to be the interviewee either Dating is voluntary. Nobody is holding a gun to your head
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:39 AM
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They want safety from other men, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:21 AM
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Or, to get what they want from women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:21 AM
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Preferences are fine. They’re not guarantees. Nothing is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:29 PM
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Women who are ok with being poor and childless are few
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:30 PM
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The answer is no; if you were hot and charming enough to be a trophy husband, you’d already know it and have women pursuing you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:12 PM
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Yes, so, like I said, you don’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:56 PM
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You think jay Z and pusha t don’t have multiple accusations ? Well, then you haven’t been listening, probably because it’s in your interest to not hear
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:13 PM
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Because we are prepared to go without. Guy objectifies me? Great, I don’t need to associate with him Man doesn’t like that I expect him to have a job like me? Great, we’re not compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:11 PM
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Who said it was? But if you’re worse at it than she is, why would she sign on for worse ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:09 PM
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And yet, people who are average fuck, date and marry — to other average people
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:08 PM
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That’s about options, not power. Most of us want mutual desires, not coerced desires
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:07 PM
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Most housewives have babies, unless they’re trophy wives. And even most trophy wives have kids. Are you hot enough to be a trophy husband ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:05 PM
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Again, if several people mention them, is that not enough ? Sounds like you don’t really care about principles or people, just that you get to keep listening to the music you like Typical
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:03 PM
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Domestic and emotional service, obviously. And if you did that worse than a woman, why would she be with you, when she can find a man that is worse than her at those things AND brings in money ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:46 PM
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Why does dating have to be about power ? For me, it’s a search
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:43 PM
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Sex and service and babies are very valuable to men, so it’s not equal. What do men have to give in exchange for these supremely valuable things ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:25 PM
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I’m afraid the Epstein files do contain photos, logs and other such proof, such as testimony from multiple sources. It also disproves the claim of many people that they didn’t even know Epstein That not good enough for ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:17 PM
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If you were getting laid by these women I bet you wouldn’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:56 PM
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Why would a woman be in a relationship with such a man? He gets something out of it, what does she get ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:52 PM
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Why’s that? Why shouldn’t you be expected to give something to get something?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:51 PM
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Arranged marriages are transactional, and neet men have little to transact
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:27 PM
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“Women” is a general term, did you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:23 PM
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You can. We just won’t like it Men are free to not associate with and complain about objectifying women just like women are free to not date and complain about objectifying men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:20 PM
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Doesn’t mean that unremarkableness is more attractive than your personality or job
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:19 PM
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Most people, of either gender, aren’t neets
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:18 PM
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My partner and I rarely fight or even disagree. My relationships with my parents, siblings and coworkers are way more dramatic than my romantic relationship, and always have been I can breakup with my partner and friends anytime, because I chose them; it’s harder to break up with your generic/legal family and your job
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:17 PM
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Male strength is great when used for good
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:46 AM
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How can you leverage your looks when you’re normal, average and unremarkable ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:45 AM
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The data disagrees
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:43 AM
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So boring relationships between boring people do not exist? My parents and aunts and uncles actually had tons of drama which I never saw ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:43 AM
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Not necessary, plenty of people get along fine and even great
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:56 AM
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Or, perhaps you don’t notice undramatic relationships because….they’re undramatic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:54 AM
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And yet, I’m sure not rich, not successful, rural guys get laid and marry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:54 AM
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Tinder is the most popular app, so how is it a failure ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:52 AM
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I don’t understand why proof of people going to underage sex island is illustrative of false claims
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:47 AM
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Except when you’re just looking to flip it Then any apartment will do, for the cheapest price available
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:49 PM
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The evolutionary deficiency is being a seed package instead of an egg carton. Males that function as caretakers, however, are the ones who are competed over
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:35 PM
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If you’re visiting an exclusive island where the purpose is having sex with minors, you’re there to have sex with minors
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:20 PM
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The vast majority of men fuck, date and marry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:18 PM
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I don’t think being picky is framed as immoral; choosing badly is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:13 PM
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Unattractive (which includes certain races and minorities) gay dudes can’t fuck who and as much as they want, much like straight men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:12 PM
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I don’t find men’s genitals attractive, unless he has a hard on. But their bodies and faces are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:10 PM
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Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:08 PM
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So you’re married and have a dependent wife like you wanted ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:07 PM
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And how do you know this? Does economic dependence magically make women horny? If so, again, why aren’t you in one of those countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:49 PM
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So? It shows what men want more than women, and that is sex. Cuz they buy it way, way more than women If initiating is so easy, why do men do so way way more than women ? If sex is so wanted by women, why don’t they fuck more? Because men will almost certainly oblige them The Ashley Madison leak showed that women don’t want to cheat any where near as much as men I, a mid old woman, could go out and get a gangbang delivered to my door for free in 30 minutes if I wanted to. Plenty of men would lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:36 PM
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Yes, she wants his money cuz she can’t make her own. Doesn’t mean she wants to fuck him more, just that she’ll put up with it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:32 PM
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Pretty much all sex work is purchased by men, gay and straight. Men outnumber women at least 2:1 on most dating sites A cheating site was found to be 95% male
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:34 PM
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You can go to some other country and buy a woman just like that African dude did. You’ll have to stay overseas if you want to keep having sex she doesn’t want though, cuz that’s illegal in the US But it’s definitely doable
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:28 PM
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Does that mean you live off your parents? Have you ever been employed ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:14 PM
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To get the benefits they desire, isn’t that right? So, are you now employed?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:04 PM
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Isn’t monogamy “bonding”? Aren’t long term monogamous relationships based on things other than sex and attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:35 PM
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Yes. And they are constantly fighting/murdering and not getting anything done (chimps) or would be wiped out if a more aggressive species invaded (bonobos) Only someone who’s lived with air conditioning, food surplus, beds, shelter, analgesics, constant entertainment, basic sanitation and lack of violence their whole lives would say such a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:31 PM
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Yes, we’re not indiscriminate. Nothing wrong with that. Btw gay male dating has problems, and they aren’t much different from straight ones — shallowness, flakiness, lack of commitment, pickiness/discrimination
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:27 PM
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What is it for then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:25 PM
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It’s just a way to say that women don’t have anywhere the libido that men do, that makes them hit on everyone and everything
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:24 PM
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It does, that’s why women have much less casual sex than men would like them to, because we’re not compulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:35 PM
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That’s what it means in practical terms
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:34 PM
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Aka no casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:26 PM
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Responsive libido, like they said
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:25 PM
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Luckily, you will soon have AI gfs
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:22 PM
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Typical man, only thinks of the sex part. Guess what? Biology isn’t so short sighted The only way rampant promiscuity works is if there is no parental relationship. Which would really restrict society
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:20 PM
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Monogamous people can have casual sex in between partners. My understanding is that demis do not
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:08 PM
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I thought it meant you only want monogamous sex I don’t think we are taught that male and female sexuality is the same. We’re all aware that men are thirsty hornballs and women are not
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:41 PM
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Men already know why. They just don’t like or agree with it The only reasonable standard a woman can have is whatever that particular man wants her to have
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:38 PM
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Let’s see these studies you claim exist We’re into men. Just not in the way and degree that men want
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:36 PM
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I don’t see people saying they love it, just that they have to do it. You yourself compared it to being slaves and cogs. Do you have a job currently?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:35 PM
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Employment data is very easy to find, and shows no change by age and gender https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm Women work and do most of the childcare and domestic management. Until that changes, I suspect the divorce rate and who initiates it will not change either
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:34 PM
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You did the same in your OP — “women like these things and they can’t be progressive”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:19 PM
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Bigotry is bigotry; why would gendered hatred be different from racial hatred ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:18 PM
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Getting something doesn’t mean you love it. People benefit from their jobs and seldom love them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:39 AM
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Women don’t love it, that’s why they complain and divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:11 AM
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Sure, but nothing is really going to change unless a majority agree. Same as for women, really; men aren’t going to be better unless a majority of us stop fucking and serving them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:34 AM
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Doesn’t seem to be making much of an effect I didn’t remember them, I just searched this sub for “stop chasing” and I recognized all your alts in the results
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:21 AM
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When a woman says those things, we call them lesbians, no? Attracted to women and not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:20 AM
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So there’s your answer: Women like talent (and status and money) because we’re not hornballs
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:05 AM
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Any country as an example ? If not, than it’s kind of a useless ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:04 AM
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lol, actually you’ve made most of those posts, at least a dozen under your various alts So what have you learned from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:59 AM
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Then she’s bi
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:50 AM
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The woman he quotes finds men unattractive and women attractive. I believe we call those types of women “lesbians”, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:50 AM
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Because men are pretty adamant about centering sex. And I don’t hear anything new from you that would change this At least once a week there’s a “men need to stop simping” post here. So it’s pretty boring and tired path you’re treading
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:47 AM
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Probably because they are so focused on looks. Nothing else stands a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:42 AM
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I don’t think men are drooling over a video because they think she’s available
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:31 AM
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Wrong for who ? What’s the right reason to do those things ? What if men don’t prefer them to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:27 AM
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Tons of men get turned on by women demonstrating competence/dominance. See the “upvoted because girl” subreddits
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:03 AM
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Preferences aren’t wrong unless they’re illegal/immoral
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:57 AM
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I said, “being shut out of most jobs” I didn’t say slavery I didn’t say cooking and cleaning Perhaps you should review history; that was an actual thing that happened to black people, Jews, Chinese people and women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:54 AM
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So? Are most men like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:38 AM
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You didn’t read the quote, did you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:38 AM
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You think your friends phone is normal ? Being shut out of most jobs is oppression. You can ask black or Chinese or Jewish people if it isn’t, mmkay?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:37 AM
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The woman he quotes finds men unattractive and women attractive. I believe we call those types of women “lesbians”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:13 AM
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Then I don’t see any problem if it’s a minority And again, if you want to go back to our “roots”, you can. You’ll just be poor
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:12 AM
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So? It’s not going to be my reason for working, improving, studying or socializing, nor would I be obsessed with getting laid if I was single
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:45 AM
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Men aren’t making mistakes. Women are just not as horny and desperate as men, never have been and never will be The only reason this wasn’t apparent in the past is because women were oppressed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:43 AM
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So what system should we have ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:38 AM
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You shouldn’t listen to a lesbian if you want to know what straight women think
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:35 AM
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What do the female insults “slut” and “whore” relate to, hm? Knitting ? What is an “n count” and why do men care so much about it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:33 AM
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Ok, so is this percentage of women who want a provider but don’t want to work or have kids significant? Because, again, most women work and most women have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:32 AM
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Just because you agree with me doesn’t mean your reasons are credible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:36 AM
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Of course we are Women in quite a few countries still get murdered for having it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:27 AM
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Why would women love sex when we’re insulted, judged and shamed for having it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:09 AM
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Why are SS stats superior to employment stats in determining the employment rate? Most people aspire to reciprocity and benefit, not unequal sacrifice. If that’s what family is, people will not engage in it Strangely, men date and marry more than 5% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:05 AM
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Of course you don’t want to debate when you have no proof
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:58 AM
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Nope, I have no reason to like it, as I’m not attractive and don’t benefit from thirst Men love loving sex; they say it gives them meaning, purpose, excitement and motivation, as well as pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:55 AM
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I don’t have to believe in a thing to describe it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:22 AM
1

Have you looked at the flair for this post and the name of this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:53 PM
1

Oh, so what are men biologically programmed to do ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:53 PM
1

Nope, when you claim something as facts in a debate, you provide proof! Otherwise your claim is bullshit!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:49 PM
1

Ok, link some. I love proof of claims!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:43 PM
1

Who said so? People in real life? Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:36 PM
1

Why would you make a claim you can’t support on a debate sub? Seems unwise, or arrogant
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:10 PM
1

That’s how proof works, did you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:35 PM
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I’m afraid women still have families, and a family isn’t loving if it’s based on restrictions and one sided effort I promise you that women know men hate them. Men are not shy about saying so
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:29 PM
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Then cite it Or your claim is bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:27 PM
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We understand, I promise. We know getting sex is the priority and the relationship is secondary for men Women do the opposite — having the partnership is the goal, while sex is the secondary concern
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:25 PM
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You did, of course. In this comment and the previous one. You have written pages and page on it Women embraced capitalism because it was a better deal than the feudalism of the family and society, where one person got to call all of the shots. Most people prefer freedom, despite its messiness, to dependence, restrictions and coercion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:12 PM
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Of course. But some people don’t work efficiently or effectively, or complain about having to do so, so they will get judged
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:09 PM
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People understand that you usually have to work harder if you want something more. Especially if there’s lots of scammers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:57 PM
1

Relationships involve sex, so that’s what women consider when they consider a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:49 PM
1

Oh, where is this survey ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:45 PM
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Well, you seemed disappointed and confused by women not viewing sex the same as going out with friends, I thought you might consider women’s opinions since you’re trying to fuck them, that’s all But you’re not interested
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:39 PM
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Interesting, I disagree that sex is equivalent to trying a new fusion restaurant, and I suspect that most people would agree with me You might want to reconsider that your belief that sex is just like any other activity, it will clear up your confusion over why you don’t get laid more
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:31 PM
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How do you know they’re not voting for who they want? Do you have data ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:29 PM
1

So what percentage of women don’t have that, and want the man to have that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:28 PM
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Who said it had to do with money? Most people have concerns other than sex and money, ya know But, again, I think those other things aren’t important to you, so relationships make little sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:28 PM
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That’s very vague. What kind of stuff do they have together that women don’t? What percentage of women are doing this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:54 PM
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It depends on if they are progressive or conservative, of course, like we have just established
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:53 PM
1

Again, is trying stuff/making friends more or less selective of an activity than sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:52 PM
2

Yes, so you are very aware men actually don’t care about behavioral traits, they care about access
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:49 PM
1

Yes, so you are very aware men actually don’t care about behavioral traits, they care about access
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:48 PM
1

And how likely is that, do you think ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:45 PM
1

Again, are those people in the booth with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:42 PM
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Ok. I don’t believe that successful, competitive, dominant men are either all conservative or all shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:42 PM
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You find the behaviors and personalities of 95% of women unappealing, so clearly you do not like women. Thus, it would be more efficient for you to not interact with women except for sex or payment, which you presumably find acceptable with more than 5% of women I don’t see why this is so hard to understand or enact. A large minority of women are interested in transactional relationships where you do not have to pretend to like them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:40 PM
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How would anyone know your private vote, hmm ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:23 PM
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Not really, because relationships are upper level friendships. Unless you regularly penetrate your friends bodies ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:22 PM
1

The majority of men and a large minority of women have that thinking, as elections clearly show
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:18 PM
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Most people don’t get along and make friends with everyone, just a select few If you don’t have 20 friends, how do you expect to have 20 relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:14 PM
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It’s hard to get people interested other people for anything, yes —- unless it’s men and sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:09 PM
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It’s in their interest to vote progressive, obviously, but they don’t Because progressivism also helps women (and the children that often come with women), and that’s bad, because women are the enemy It’s the same attitude as towards any minority, like immigrants or POC — if it also helps those people, it’s bad. That famous Trump voter that lost their healthcare is example number 1 of that attitude: “He’s not hurting the people he’s supposed to be hurting!”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:04 PM
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If you only like sex with women, go for sex only. Otherwise you’ll have to deal with our (shudder) personhood, which you just said you don’t like, as is your right You will, of course, have to exchange something for body use, which is how reciprocity works
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:02 PM
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Men prize short term sex, women long term relationships We all know this bro
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:00 PM
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Yes, we know. Men are trying to find sex opportunities so of course they are indiscrimate; women are trying to find honesty, so of course they are prudent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:59 PM
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Yes. Because we don’t have male libidos and agendas
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:52 PM
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You should, cuz otherwise you’re wasting everyone’s time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:49 PM
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lol, we have to give examples, but these examples are also anecdotes and therefore not valid Sounds like our only acceptable option is to agree with you and do what you want, unsurprisingly Everyone knows that men approach and why
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:47 PM
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If you don’t like women, stick to hookers, tradcons, and other transactional service relationships; everyone will be happier and more fulfilled
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:43 PM
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It’s hilarious that being interested in a person is a huge effort. I want to know more about any person I’m interested in, it’s not a chore —- unless they’re not interested
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:39 PM
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Then you don’t have to “try” to find them attractive; they just are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:38 PM
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If he’s “trying”, he’s not actually attracted to me. He should go for someone he doesn’t have to “try” to be attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:37 PM
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It depends on your inherent personality and looks, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:30 PM
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How can you be “traditional” and not want kids l? That’s part of the deal, by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:44 PM
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Progressive means submissive, uncompetitive, timid, and insecure ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:23 PM
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Why “try” when better looking women exist ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:18 PM
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Most men are not in the 1%, so yeah, it’s in their interest. That’s how percentages work
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:16 PM
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Yup. Those women should be mocked and called out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:13 PM
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So women are saying you’re a fourth as valuable as your wife? Your wife says she values you less? Why didn’t your mom live in fear that your dad would leave her or feel worthless?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:07 PM
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I’m not in favor of gaslighting and lying, sorry. If they don’t wanna, they don’t wanna, and that’s fine I don’t want it done to me, so I don’t want it done to them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:02 PM
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The whole point is that OP doesn’t want to spend a dime
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:00 PM
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How so? People are allowed to want what they want in a free society, and nothing has ever made men stop wanting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:58 PM
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So why are they in them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:52 PM
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Then the answer to your question is obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:48 PM
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Those are insults about controllable behaviors and therefore not “punching down” by OPs definition
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:39 PM
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What specifically are they demanding and not bringing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:33 PM
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True, the fact that other insults such as trash, dogs, children, assholes, jerks, etc, exist disproves the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:35 AM
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Plenty of men would disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:33 AM
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Yes, because that disproves the OP. Describing something isn’t condoning it. Is OP prescribing women’s insults by describing them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:24 AM
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Yeah, and? Why do you assume they’re not going to do anything or not be a traditional wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:21 AM
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Where are women being hypocrites like OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:55 AM
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Then it’s men’s fault for being too eager to date women and letting them move on
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:54 AM
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How is remarrying not moving on
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:52 AM
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Catcalls and threats/harassment are not approaches, that’s just straight up hostility I get fewer approaches than before but they’re more subtle and laid back, and I attribute that to me aging rather than any change in society
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:50 AM
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But sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:46 AM
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Link the comment then
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:44 AM
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He can, and we can accurately call him a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:43 AM
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Being desperate/putting up with shitty behavior, only talking about themselves, not being interested in the other person, overinvesting, misreading interest, being passive, oversharing, talking about exes, being suspicious or bitter over past experiences, being shitty people Ya know, normal selfish human stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:39 AM
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He doesn’t work, he lives with his parents
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:12 AM
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Same thing — someone else is taking care of you, neither of you are “taking care of society”, lol So why is it okay when you do it, but not when women do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:12 AM
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Where did I say that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:09 AM
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Why should we when you don’t wanna either, hypocrite?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:59 AM
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Oh, so it’s ok for you but not for women Why don’t you cook and clean like you expect a woman to, since you’re being provided for like a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:40 AM
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He also doesn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:19 AM
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How can you take care of yourself if you don’t work? Who is paying for your food, shelter, phone service, electricity, water?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:13 AM
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Is sex the only reason a man talks to a woman ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:58 AM
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Most of us already have jobs, did you know?. There’s only an 11% employment gap between the genders in the US, and 10% or less in more socialized countries in Europe, so I don’t see what the problem is PS: You can already go back to our “roots”. They’re called poor countries; I’m sure they’d love to have you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:45 AM
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Oh, women don’t have jobs? Interesting claim
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:31 AM
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Pay us for “taking care of society” like men are paid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:11 AM
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Yeah, cuz you get paid. Pay us and we might. Or not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:46 AM
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You guys take care of society if it’s so great; we’re tired of being your servants
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:35 AM
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Marriage is a legal construct, relationships are not Not condemning polyamoury doesn’t mean supporting or incentivizing it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:32 AM
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Remarriage rates, always higher for men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:30 AM
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Because you’re supposed to do what men want, not what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:30 AM
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Most of the same things men do wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:28 AM
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Of course appearance matters And most people date similar appearance levels Envy, however, doesn’t care about boring fairness
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:24 AM
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I don’t believe it, since I’m neither young nor attractive and still get hit on, both in acceptable and not acceptable ways. I’d say there’s more harassment/catcalling than approaches now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:23 AM
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Oh, such as who?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:20 AM
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When it causes them to complain enough that it annoys me, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:39 PM
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You’re well aware of what I meant
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:37 PM
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The genders having differing and antagonistic desires is neither lied about nor prettified What has changed is that both can be pursued instead of one
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:20 PM
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Men wanting sex too much with too many women is more destructive to dating
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:15 PM
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That’s a lot of words to say the basic knowledge that men are a lot hornier than women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:14 PM
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Oh, I thought men are biologically programmed to want variety and to spread their seed ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:07 PM
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Where did I say I agreed with it, now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:45 PM
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I’m not blaming men. I merely have little sympathy because of their common and widespread behavior, which I have experienced and been personally affected by many times
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:43 PM
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Empathy is understanding, and I can understand men just fine. It isn’t hard What you want is sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:41 PM
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Not wanting to fuck you and not liking misogyny is not misandry, sorry to inform you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:40 PM
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Women can cheat anytime they want because men are always up for it Men can’t cheat anywhere near as much as they want because women are rarely up for it Women are the limiters, not drivers, of infidelity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:40 PM
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And that’s relevant because…..?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:38 PM
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So? We all knew what Trump was, because he and his supporter told us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:30 AM
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Are men indifferent to female suicides?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:29 AM
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Of course a man could. They joke about prison and prison rape all the time, and also warn women they care about about men, and blame women for not assuming men are dangerous Addiction is very common, and also on a spectrum of normal behaviors. Many of us are or have been close to addiction to food, games, gambling, a relationship, the internet, smoking, drugs/alcohol, body image, much of which has affected our mental health. I know I certainly have. I don’t believe empathy is hard, it’s a necess…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:27 AM
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Mocking is not indifference
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:19 AM
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Of course she would have been in comparison to Trump, simply by not applying tariffs, not persecuting immigrants and naturalized citizens, not eliminating DEI, not increasing the deficit, not lowering taxes for the wealthy, not eliminating the department of Education and other government services, not freezing or extorting SNAP, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:17 AM
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When two thirds decline to vote for the progressive candidate, that’s a pretty big majority Not at all — conservative actions are going to ensure the opposite, with gerrymandering, court appointments, removal and dismantling of progressive programs, creation/funding of conservative/antiliberal institutions, legislating increased wealth to the already wealthy, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:03 AM
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Addiction is very easy to understand This is getting pretty close to saying that we can only “understand” if we’ve experienced the exact same thing, which would pretty much invalidate the entire concept of empathy Because I don’t think guys want to be treated like a regular person from the way they treated me and most women, and also from how they say they wanted to be treated, which is like a sex object or a victim. I would believe guys who said that the same women who asked him for empathy imm…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:52 AM
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Ok, almost every woman. There aren’t that many men who are related to me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:49 AM
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She should. I’m over her because of it Progressives are a minority in this country. By a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:38 AM
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I didn’t say they were contradictory Sounds like your not ready to have a good faith discussion with all these absolute denials
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:36 AM
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Guess ya got no rebuttal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:36 AM
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If you experienced that from every woman in your life, and it’s widely discussed on social media as a universal experience, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:34 AM
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What is taboo? Insulting women’s appearance or sexualizing them? “Quiet, piggy” — the most powerful man in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:32 AM
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Yes, I have had people of both genders tell me about trauma, usually CSA but also unrelated. All of that stuff is perfectly understandable and conceivable, because I know how horrific people can be from history, the media, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:32 AM
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Happens to pretty much all women, and is also confirmed by the many men who complain about being led on and friendzoned, and say that the main reason for talking to a woman is sex —- so I’m confident I’m not special or abnormal And if I didn’t learn from my experiences, I would be called stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:20 AM
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Whenever I showed sympathy for a man who wasn’t related to me (and even a few times when he was) he responded with either misogyny, resentment or his dick. Why shouldn’t I learn from my experiences like an intelligent being ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:07 AM
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“There’s no way all these negative things show up on the first date” “Most people are hyper aware of being the best versions of themselves on the first date” Doesn’t look like you’re open to any discussion or debate, especially since you haven’t engaged with anyone else on your own post
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:04 AM
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Understanding and imagination is the basis for considering other people. This is not difficult, because people aren’t all that different or complex I don’t have to agree with anyone to understand what they’re thinking and feeling The main concerns men have with women are sexual and sympathetic, by their own admission, so it is relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:01 AM
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Again, I guess there is no such thing as a bad first date, in your world
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:54 AM
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Like I said, empathy is understanding, and I can understand men just fine. Sympathy and compassion are what I don’t have, because of the previously mentioned misogyny, resentment, threats, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:51 AM
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They don’t wanna socialize with each other but only want to sexualize women, most of whom don’t want to fuck them So who does that leave them to not be lonely with ? The cause of female loneliness depends on who’s perspective you’re looking at — either women are too picky or men aren’t interested in their personhood (as opposed to their bodies). Or perhaps both Most men’s concerns with respect to women stem from the fact that women won’t fuck them. This naturally leads to misogyny, violence, ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:44 AM
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Why is promiscuity bad character, since it’s what most men are trying to do? Of course men comment on women’s appearance all the time, they themselves admit that “fuckable or not” is their main criteria of women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:36 AM
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I can understand men just fine. I’m just not going to fuck them or ignore/forgive their misogyny, resentment, threats, entitlement and selfishness Men cause their own loneliness. It’s hard to feel sympathy for that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:32 AM
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Either there’s way more chads than claimed or they’re slumming a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:31 AM
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Oh, is insulting sluts, fatties, uggos, hags, hoes, genitals, holes, etc, “punching up”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:29 AM
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Oh; so discussing past bigotry is unacceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:22 AM
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Lovely, I guess we’re all lying then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:21 AM
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Yes, of course sex is the most important thing. It’s not cheap and easy at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:20 AM
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Blatantly awful, impatient, slovenly, uncaring, thirsty, anxious, boring, entitled, desperate, bigoted, strange, uninterested, etc, is quite a lot of people, did you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:08 AM
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These are all real opinions and explanations for why people think socializing is dumb and worthless OP says it right in the text: “But some guys get laid and don’t have to do all that”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:01 AM
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That doesn’t show anything; why don’t you use words instead
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:36 AM
2

Red pill women are basically half assed tradcons
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:35 AM
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The problem with OLD is the same as with irl dating — too many casual thirsty sex seekers who lie about wanting relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:31 AM
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Oh, she controls these men’s minds and fingers? Amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:27 AM
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She’s a liar so we don’t care. Let the courts handle her and her equally shitty ex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:25 AM
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Because you didn’t have expectations of them, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:22 AM
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Most women have freed themselves from economic dependence, but not socio/romantic dependence 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:21 AM
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Of course it did. The whole point is that men are lied to and here is the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:18 AM
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When women had no options, men could do what they liked. Now men have to be better to be an option, and many, if not most, aren’t. And that’s disappointing No, they don’t have to. The women that are fine being beaten are free to go get beaten, and the rest of us will just be alone, or disappointed, or happy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:06 PM
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Again, whatever school of RP, without the grievance/gender separatism basis it’s just undirected self improvement Most of what he wrote is mainstream dating/adulting advice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:02 PM
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Or, men are just disappointing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:00 PM
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Of course women say what kind of man they want, with their standards and requirements, which have been communicated and complained about by men forever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:50 PM
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Nope. The entire concept of the “red pill”, taken from the movie, is that it awakens you to the “truth” — that society and female nature is against you and lying to/exploiting you Without that unifying narrative/grievance, red pill is just self improvement and PUA
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:32 PM
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If Chad got it and you didn’t, doesn’t that make you beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:20 PM
1

The only reason to get mad that an asshole is getting laid is the assumption that niceness should be the thing that gets you laid
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:42 PM
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Women pass down genes more often because men like killing each other and themselves way more than they like killing women. Please see “warfare, history of” for many example of this process, and also r/whywomenlivelonger
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:29 PM
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If you think nice should be the determiner of laid, then you don’t know what nice is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:27 PM
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Mhm, are most men beta bux or not ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:17 PM
0

If everything is red pill, than nothing is red pill, and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:10 PM
2

It’s certainly easier and more convenient for you, yes A basic, hatey life is still pretty good by most metrics, if you don’t sabotage it with your hate Oh, are you also neurodivergent?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:06 PM
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So you have little experience of the time period you’re referring to I will say in the 90s we had more optimism because the Cold War had ended and we thought things were going to get better Little did we know that things getting better for some people made others pissed off
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:05 PM
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That’s true, beta bux is more practically described as a relationship where the man doesn’t get everything red pill thinks he should, just like hypergamy is more practically described as the woman being dissatisfied in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:01 PM
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And under 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:51 PM
2

RP is the reason for self improvement; self improvement is not necessarily because of RP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:48 PM
2

That why we have to make it better
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:42 PM
1

Beta buxing is being valued for what you provide, not your sexuality or personality Traditional marriages are all beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:41 PM
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Nope. If the bar is on the floor and your partner can’t get over it, you deserve better — for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:30 PM
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My comment was about progress and change, and I was specifically referring to OPs use of the term, so no. Unless you are OPs alt?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:28 PM
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Yes, I do think I shouldn’t be discriminated against for my race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, income, etc, but that’s kind of a universal/moral/reciprocity thing than entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:18 PM
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Yes, because relationships/sex are supposed to be mutually desired
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:15 PM
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That’s funny, because I’ve been hit on by women many times and it’s not that different And men showing interest in me is not very different from how I show interest in them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:10 PM
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Not necessarily. If everyone thought like OP, there’d be no progress or change of any sort
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:02 PM
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You object to condemnation of it, so its valid to you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:01 PM
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Sure. But basic legal rights n such do exist Perhaps the better sentence is “women want better” or “women expect reciprocity” or something Every change in human society has come because some group thought they deserved better and got it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:58 PM
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Again, desire is not owed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:56 PM
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Desire is not entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:56 PM
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The world was sexist then and it’s still sexist now You happen to be white, straight, Christian and male, by any chance ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:52 PM
2

A hypothetical about nagging is about nagging
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:51 PM
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It’s inconsiderate and selfish because sex is supposed to be mutually desired, not extracted and coerced Either you want your partner to want it, or you don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:50 PM
2

Yup. You’re arguing that it’s ok and justified, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:46 PM
2

Sure ya did https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/z2NwmBvBFi
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:43 PM
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Romance is celibate? I’ve been doing it all wrong !
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:33 PM
2

Yes. So why nag someone to have sex when they don’t want to? Do you think desire can be forced?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:32 PM
1

And if we don’t want your money ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:29 PM
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Nope, we’re not arguing over libidos, we’re arguing over the way to deal with them. And I disagree that nagging someone into sex is considerate and unselfish
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:39 PM
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Most people require sex that is mutually, not unilaterally, desired
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:37 PM
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“Deserve’s got nothing to do with it” But, if men want to be less lonely…..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:29 PM
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I agree. Women don’t deserve better until we stop associating with subpar men And a lot of us are
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:28 PM
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Right here in the comments https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/vDYDfoNzsz https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/QQdp50OhmP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:25 PM
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It’s not. Women can fuck out of boredom, desperation or minimal attraction; I certainly have. Not all men will fuck anything and everything, and most men claim to want love and relationships just like women It’s a difference of degree, not mechanism And I don’t think men prefer socially awkward, inept or avoidant women either
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:13 PM
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We’re not privileged. We’re oppressed by gender roles and stereotypes, and that’s why we’re working to eliminate them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:04 PM
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Points 1/2 are mainstream beliefs Point 3 — is this about cheating or hypergamy? I’ve fucked/dated guys that were worse than previous ones, never cheated
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:02 PM
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It is. “Swallowing the red pill” is a conscious choice and not easy Of course red pill appeals to the unsuccessful, why else would they believe that society and women are oppressing them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:55 PM
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Where am I agreeing with you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:37 PM
0

Yes, that’s being red pilled, or at least gender separatist/sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:33 PM
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Yes, and that’s not being red pilled, that’s just self improvement Being “red pilled” is swallowing all of it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:15 PM
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Wanting less sex than your partner is not a lack of attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:09 PM
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You can get that advice many other places without the adversarial misogyny/sexism Doing so is a deliberate choice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:01 PM
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Yes, red pill is a toolbox — a collection of existing tactics curated and marketed to combat male oppression by society and female nature And why would you use the red pill’s tools, which, again, you can get many places, unless you liked the adversarial, cynical box it came in?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:59 PM
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Yes, the reason something exists is important
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:41 PM
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I don’t base my relationship on sex requirements. Nor do I nag; you should either know basic consideration or you don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:06 PM
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I don’t base my relationship on sex requirements. Nor do I nag; you should either know basic consideration or you don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:06 PM
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Of course not. If you’re nagging more than once or twice, aka a pattern, you don’t care what you’re partner wants, just what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:58 PM
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If it happens regularly, yup. That demonstrates that they don’t give a shit about what you want, only what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:52 PM
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I don’t appreciate people nagging and guilting me into doing things for their benefit that I don’t want to, and I suspect most people would feel the same
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:43 PM
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That’s not red pill, that’s just regular dating self improvement A red pill advice book would explain that society is “gynocentric” and thus deliberately lies to you about fickle, immature “female nature” (aka hypergamy) for women’s benefit. Thus, righting the unequal scales requires not just improving your body and mind, but also protecting yourself and not being vulnerable, and putting your desires first. The entire purpose of red pill is supporting gender grievance so you can justify becoming…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:40 PM
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Mhm, grudging sex! So wanted!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:32 PM
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Since a lot of men can’t or won’t cook, yes Im always amused at what’s in single men’s fridges and pantries
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:24 PM
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Ah, so you date and cohabit normally, it’s just the initial contact that is only online?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:22 PM
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Unfortunately, I suspect most men would like to have sex and service irl So your advice would not be effective for them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:17 PM
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Red pill doesn’t care what women want, only men This is not a problem, by the way, because they explicitly say that’s the entire point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:16 PM
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If I fuck you on the first date, that means I’ve ruled out a relationship 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:14 PM
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Ok, so you’re gonna have online only relationships/friendships?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:09 PM
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lol, attracting women with your job is beta buxing. Are you sure you’re red pill ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:05 PM
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Sure you can, if you have enough entitlement. Or, better yet, believe that being liked by other people is dumb and useless
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:57 AM
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That’s what getting a woman because she’s economically dependent on you rather than attracted to you is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:55 AM
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Either you want the other person to want sex with you, or you don’t And you clearly don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:00 AM
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Apps are easy. Getting to know someone is hard
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:42 AM
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Strange to hear a red piller extolling beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:37 AM
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Sex is more important than decency or morals, obviously. Or, the purpose of morals/decency is to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:37 AM
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Non-selfish people communicate clearly and listen to others, so they are not the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:18 PM
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The selfish are in the same market as the rest of us. For some reason you think the problem is miscommunication; I do not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:00 PM
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That doesn’t matter when the other party doesn’t care what you want, only what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:09 PM
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So it’s not “different dating styles” or “misreading/miscommunication” that’s the issue, it’s entitlement and selfishness That is why I disagree with your OP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:03 PM
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Of course, I’m not arguing with you. I’m just pointing out that other people have their own agendas and don’t give a shit about yours And that’s why they do what they do. It’s not that they don’t understand, it’s that they don’t care Hope that clears things up for you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:51 PM
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The ones who care aren’t creeps. That’s part of what I mean by “less interested”, ie “less interested in being appealing”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:45 PM
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Because women don’t want sex as much as men do, obviously. And the way to bypass women’s desire is to lie to them, obviously. And also complain. A lot
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:39 PM
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Why do men think romance is less appealing ? Because sex is more appealing, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:53 PM
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It’s easier but people are less interested and appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:52 PM
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Privilege doesn’t cease to exist just because it isn’t employed. Plenty of women don’t exercise theirs but it doesn’t stop men from complaining that they have it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:16 PM
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Why should we fuck you when we don’t want to, again ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:48 PM
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So we shouldn’t have the freedom to not do what we don’t want to? How shall that work, practically speaking ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:15 PM
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When you’re cold approaching it’s very low success — that applies to any type of sales
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:14 PM
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It’s a bad thing when you expect ours to be high and then act like we’re oppressing you or something
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:05 PM
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Don’t make claims you can’t prove I could say that obviously creatures with 11 legs and 7 dicks existed and died out because they weren’t competitive, and that doesn’t make it true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:03 PM
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An anecdote (your comment) is not data And the data says that bio dads kill more kids than bio moms, despite doing way less of the childcare
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:51 PM
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So? If men can claim that they need sexual variety and to spread their seed, it’s valid to point out the biological privilege those desires indicate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:18 PM
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Of course it is — men will pay or do anything to get Iaid. But men know the truth — it’s not sociopathy that makes men attractive, but attractiveness that allows you to be sociopathic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:14 PM
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Nobody wants anything that involves effort/criticism/rejection That is what I’ve learned in life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:43 PM
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Men say so, and I believe them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:41 PM
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Yup. And that proves what really matters to some men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:40 PM
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I don’t need to prove a negative. You made the claim they existed, so you prove it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:06 AM
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If men can go on and on about how they need to spread their seed and have variety, I can talk about the biological privilege that results from it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:28 AM
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The real issue is they accept they need to be Chad but are really resentful of it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:28 AM
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If men really thought that women wanted sociopaths, they would be sociopaths, because men will do anything that has even the slightest chance of getting them laid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:20 AM
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Oh, that genghis khan fellow that men love to talk about evidently did. He’s venerated precisely for being a uberrapist and murderer
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:15 AM
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Biologically it is possible and men often invoke it as the motive for their thirst, selfishness and indiscriminacy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:13 AM
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Being nagged or disregarded can render a desired mutual activity undesirable 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:30 AM
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I don’t think women want sexless relationships They want relationships with sex that they want Which tends to be less often than what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:09 AM
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It’s not my thoughts, it’s men’s thoughts, which they freely share with us
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:56 AM
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PSA: lots of people like low expectations, because they’re easier to meet
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:54 AM
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Either you care if people to want to have sex with you, or you don’t 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:53 AM
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OP already assumes sex. The question is how much
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:52 AM
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Women aren’t the ones complaining that the opposite sex is too sensitive and easily offended, and can’t take a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:51 AM
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Biology is not society
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:48 AM
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So, again, you have no proof of egalitarian societies that failed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:28 PM
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Because your point is flawed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:13 PM
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So how do you even know they existed ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:13 PM
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Which ones were that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:02 PM
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There hasn’t been a mainstream society that didn’t oppress women or slaves until the last century
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:23 PM
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Over time, they will be more successful, which is logical and what the evidence shows
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:59 PM
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No, because change isn’t extinction
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:55 PM
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Women are saying that they will fuck casually ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:52 PM
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They seemed pretty clear about it being biological
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:51 PM
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They seemed pretty clear about it being biological
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:51 PM
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I’m sure predictions, theories and models have never been wrong. And that there have always been 8 billion humans on this planet, never any less
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:45 PM
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So none, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:22 PM
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Oh, which ones did that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:10 PM
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You’re online, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:09 PM
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Biology isn’t society That’s why female biological privilege is also a lazy argument
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:08 PM
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Those are easily avoided by a paternity test
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:07 PM
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It should be applied, so we can easily see who is selfish and resentful
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:06 PM
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“Women have value! Men are expendable!”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:06 PM
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I’m afraid men I’ve desired have definitely ruined that desire by being selfish, inconsiderate and demanding
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:05 PM
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And a society that doesn’t waste energy oppressing half its members is always going to stomp one that does in the long run. It’s basic efficiency
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:03 PM
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And yet, it’s always cited as some sort of male oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:02 PM
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One man can have thousands and thousands of kids and invest nothing into them at all That’s massive, stupendous biological privilege And also shows why biological privilege is a stupid for metric for both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:00 PM
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One man can have thousands and thousands of kids and invest nothing into them at all That’s massive, stupendous biological privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:00 PM
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One man can have thousands and thousands of kids and invest nothing into them at all That’s massive, stupendous biological privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:59 PM
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And women can’t use sex to defraud and exploit men so we’re equally oppressed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:53 PM
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I assure you that we already know this, because dating exists
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:50 PM
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I didn’t say I agree with OP on that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:50 PM
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Mmmm, because her situation is so normal, that’s why it was news, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:49 PM
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*prioritize the man At least tradcons are upfront about this part, they openly declare that God said men rule over their wives and are supposed to be served and obeyed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:46 PM
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When marriages were arranged and war was common, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:40 PM
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No, I’ve never heard any religious person talk about that. Sex is a portrayed as a passionless obligation by most religions that I’ve encountered
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:29 AM
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Lots of men don’t really like women, period. Even if they are hot
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:26 AM
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That’s how/why many people get into abusive relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:26 AM
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We already know that non-religious men can make us orgasm, I promise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:24 AM
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Men have always paid for looks, it is quite normal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:23 AM
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Successful men continue to have ambition even though they have all the women they want And men are famous for abandoning their families, so much so that the law had to step in, and theyre very unhappy about it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:03 AM
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Yes, voluntary is good
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:17 AM
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I’m afraid I do have orgasms with my partners, and few of them have been religious
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:41 PM
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You can think of it as an access fee
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:40 PM
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It’s irrelevant when no is not respected Like I said, that is harassment, which is unlawful
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:38 PM
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That’s not in the bible or church doctrine, sorry to inform you. Nor is it discussed in the literature or law.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:32 PM
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Why is it coercion? Because they have already demonstrated very clearly that consent isn’t important Harassment is also a crime, did you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:24 PM
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The transaction is usually that they care about their appearance. That is what you are paying for Many, if not most, women are not into a straight up fee for service arrangement
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:19 PM
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How are they hurting them? Is it intentional?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:14 PM
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When you wipe out all the males, the genetic diversity does kinda halve immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:12 PM
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Who are these women hurting besides themselves? Evil also requires intent, ya know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:59 PM
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How do we square this ? Very easily — by knowing that people lie, propaganda/advertising works, and relationships are desired And by assigning blame to the perp, not victims
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:46 PM
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Very easily — people lie and propaganda/advertising works
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:46 PM
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It’s less effort. A dude will always take less effort along with sex Who said anything about guarantees?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:05 PM
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Sex for humans isn’t about reproduction
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:18 PM
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Nope, they just have stuff called money
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:54 PM
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Men don’t care about babies, they care about body use, aka sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:54 PM
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Of course it is Just like the Matrix, the film the concept comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:52 PM
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They’re ideals. And there’s plenty of examples in real life — we call it gold digging
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:51 PM
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That’s why men initiate, wait and pay Everyone knows that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:50 PM
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Nope. Men here are happy to admit that they will take sex when they don’t like the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:48 PM
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And that wasn’t OPs point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:47 PM
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Of course it is. It’s called polygamy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:12 AM
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It’s not. The bible is full of descriptions of men weeding out lots of other men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:04 AM
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Men are very good at removing each other from the gene pool, way better than women are. You have heard of war, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:02 AM
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Hypergamy can occur in monogamous societies, lol. That’s what fairy tales are all about
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:01 AM
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Depends on if men stop pumping and dumping and lying about wanting relationships instead of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:05 PM
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If you have to exaggerate and provoke to make your point, maybe it isn’t a very good or well thought out point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:29 PM
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Something only a not poor person would say. I bet slaves were happier not having to think or make decisions too, right ? I love how basic needs are controversial and even detrimental when they apply to the oppressed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:51 PM
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Towards a better life for everyone, obviously. If conservatives had their way, we’d still be uneducated feudalists relying on God to cure our dysentery, burying half our kids before they learned to walk and thanking the king/lord for allowing us to eat. Not to mention stoning the sodomites and enslaving the savages
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:48 PM
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And again, plenty of people who don’t follow the norms exist so it’s possible People used to think that working would make women’s uteruses fall out and other such stupid things, and they were wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:07 PM
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Progressive just means favoring progress; conservative just means favoring conserving/tradition. People can identify as either of those things and not be activists, or even vote
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:56 PM
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Plenty of women want it, some have it, and most don’t get it And it’s been increasing as time goes on Its possible that culture and attitudes can change, because that’s the limiting factor
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:55 PM
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But you already accept that there are different factions of feminism. Feminism will be progressive as long as there is conservative pushback against it. And I am confident there will always be pushback
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:16 PM
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Not at all. Single fathers exist, SAHDs exist, formula exists, maternity and paternity leave exist. Most female doctors, executives and lawyers I know have multiple kids Men are no more incapable of being the primary or equal parent than women are incapable of being primary or equal earners
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:12 PM
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The number of female breadwinners/male caretakers has tripled over the last 15-20 years, so it’s obviously changing But, like I said, culture and tradition
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:06 PM
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This reads as saying mainstream feminism is right wing because to radical, extreme feminism is left wing Uh, no; there’s moderates. It’s not just black or white
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:24 PM
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Simple: the main reason women lag behind men is doing most of the childcare and domestic management. The trends are already there, they’re just not maximized because of culture and tradition
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:50 PM
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I found one, yes, and I’m keeping him in no small part because it’s so rare Lots of people, of all genders, treat their partners worse than their friends, so that’s not saying much
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:20 PM
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Voluntarily, sure. And we are, just not enough for now
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:39 PM
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Who is claiming that it isn’t ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:38 PM
0

Love is a feeling. Reciprocity is not charity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:36 PM
8

I have only three rules: Enjoy my company Show interest in me, not my body Don’t offend me It is amazing how many men cannot comply with those 3 very basic rules
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:34 PM
1

I would live with it. Shaving just means stubble, which is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:33 PM
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*Hypergamy has historically been chosen for women by their fathers and families FTFY By the way, the main reason most men didn’t reproduce isn’t women, it’s men. Who like slaughtering entire populations of men so they can take their women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:32 PM
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Minimizing gender roles, obviously. And economic parity/minimizing poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:30 PM
5

I’m not looking for a salesman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:29 PM
6

Quality, non-porn sex that we both want
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:28 PM
20

Competence, independence, sexual moderation/consideration
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:21 AM
1

Really?! Providing a direct rebuttal to a blanket generalization is “contentless rhetoric”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:09 AM
1

That is hilarious that a red piller wants a relationship. “She’s not yours; it’s just your turn”, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:02 AM
1

The men who whine already know this Because they don’t do the very thing that they claim women like
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:18 PM
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Because biology, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:13 PM
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Yes, men hold the majority of power and wealth in pretty much every society
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:05 PM
1

Nope. That’s why families protect child abusers — they care more about the abuser than the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:35 PM
2

I did not say that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:33 PM
-1

Nope, that’s the definition
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:27 PM
9

It’s not just feminists, it’s everyone. Go look at any post in r/conservative; the majority of comments get removed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:50 PM
4

Propaganda is needed when the reality is different
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:48 PM
4

The patriarchy is male power and self interest
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:48 PM
0

In the manosphere, freedom is slavery and peace is war
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:55 PM
2

Yes, and OP doesn’t care That’s your own problem
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:50 PM
2

*die to protect their genetic interest, the second most important thing after sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:29 PM
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Men are the opposite of expendable when they’re productive. A man who has money, power and skills is protected from “having his life ruined” as long as others benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:28 PM
1

Who is asking them to react? “Lawfully” is the only expectation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:25 PM
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It’s pretty mainstream, ie blue pill, to believe that people are different and not everything is simple
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:24 PM
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The same advice that works for the majority of people
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:19 PM
3

I’m afraid that there have always been more female than male prostitutes And that there has always been more male than female demand Nothing has changed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:14 PM
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If it was, men wouldn’t be complaining about women’s rights and wanting to go back to the way it used to be Laws have consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:13 PM
2

So? Incorrect is still incorrect. And women react to what men do/want, so it’s relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:41 AM
1

He obviously thinks casual sex is worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:40 AM
1

He doesn’t have to actually be a sociopath, just act like one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:39 AM
1

Since his previous strategy was to simply ask for casual sex without being hot, rich or famous/extroverted, he’s not very good at problem solving He’s like the equivalent of the fat single mom who says she’s the prize and should get a rich man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:35 AM
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He’s pretty desperate and messed up, but that’s what happens when you openly pursue casual sex without being hot or wealthy or famous Which is….certainly an interesting choice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:32 AM
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Men complain about it happening all the time. They want sex immediately without dates, like, ya know, “Chad” does
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:30 AM
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You’re recommending this course of action to men so you should care Otherwise, it isn’t “the best” and you’re lying
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:29 AM
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I thought women have inflated egos and perception of their attractiveness due to male thirst and simping ? That’s why their standards are so unreasonable and they’re too picky
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:18 AM
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I suppose not liking rudeness, cheating, selfishness, bigotry, laziness and immaturity makes me exceptional, alas Please also note that I am not hot
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:56 AM
2

Aw, it’s so sad that your opinions can’t hold up to opposition!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:53 AM
5

I pretty much have two: enjoy my company and don’t offend me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:48 AM
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Because he met my low standards and no other man did, and after 5 tries that’s good enough for me I’m happy to hang it up and focus on other things, since I got what I wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:45 AM
8

Perhaps read the title again, hm?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:44 AM
1

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:00 AM
7

Let’s put it this way, I’ve been in a LTR for 5+ years so I’ve already found it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:00 AM
1

It is, but people are more socially inept, avoidant, comfortable and distracted than ever
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:59 AM
2

No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:57 AM
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I believe OP doesn’t actually care about dating problems, he just doesn’t like women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:50 AM
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Why? You’re just gonna call me a liar, so I’m not gonna play that game
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:49 AM
7

If we shut up like OP wants and nothing else changes, dating problems would remain
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:48 AM
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Aw, invalidation; a classic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:38 AM
9

So that’s an additional demand, not just “stop complaining”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:40 AM
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If women stopped complaining but didn’t fuck any differently, men would still be complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:39 AM
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Doesn’t change what men are complaining about and want us to do
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:38 AM
2

And yet that’s not what they complain about or desire from women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:12 AM
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It is, because you intend it as an insult and use it to shut down discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:10 AM
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You post in the conspiracy sub, you’re a conspiracy theorist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:05 AM
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Ah, there it is, you got no rebuttal so it’s back to insults and cop outs
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:59 AM
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Nobody forced you to claim that laws, contracts, rules and agreements only apply to men and not women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:59 AM
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He didn’t pump n dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:52 AM
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Nope. Because I take information in and use it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:51 AM
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I am speaking generally of conspiracy theorists, antivaxxers and the manosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:49 AM
2

That’s not what whiteknighting is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:48 AM
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I just told you why
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:47 AM
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Because you’re claiming that only women do these things because men are oppressed ALL laws and rules favor women, remember? You’ve been comparing men to women in all your comments
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:46 AM
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People who complain about oppression always want change
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:44 AM
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Like I said, “basic” doesn’t apply in this case
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:37 AM
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Oh, so men don’t cheat, lie, divorce, steal or change their mind ? How amazing that other men don’t trust them, let alone women And all laws and contracts only apply to men ? How inefficient for society And women never go to prison, have consequences or pay fines? How amazing, it’s a wonder that men aren’t being brazenly and openly murdered, robbed, assaulted, harassed, etc, especially in the age of smartphones
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:34 AM
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Your posts and interactions Ok, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:26 AM
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Nope. By anyone who doesn’t assume that women are automatically bad and wrong, and men are automatically good and right
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:25 AM
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It is not a reasonable assumption, given this platform and sub’s demographics and your own interests/beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:23 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:17 AM
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Nope. It can also be explained as logical, reasonable and objective, since women are not always bad and wrong, and men are not always good and right
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:16 AM
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Nope. Problems don’t go away when you ignore them And we’re not going to ignore our own desires and interests
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:04 AM
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Yes, so? Doesn’t mean men aren’t complaining, specifically about the very thing you claim they aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:03 AM
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Fake as in “fake people”, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:02 AM
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Sure. Doesn’t mean adults are superior And I find most male topics to be rather useless, theoretical and/or self aggrandizing, so they’re not very interesting to me. Grandstanding and pontificating is pretty pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:02 AM
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My bad; I edited https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/MXeaDdA6Sl So, were you lying then or are you lying now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:59 PM
2

Are they the only ones complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:58 PM
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Only if you assume they’re being used, which, of course, is your own personal opinion, often denied by the “white knights” themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:57 PM
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Insanity, aka doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result), is easy to spot and also entertaining
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:54 PM
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Getting casual sex honestly is hard mode OP hasn’t even completed the easy mode, which is lying/flaking or getting relationship sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:50 PM
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No, your post is a denial that complaining, especially from those groups, exists And men/those groups don’t think their standards are too high, which is why they complain in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:46 PM
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And you don’t respect that, just like the other commenter pointed out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:43 PM
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Of course you do because you made this post
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:41 PM
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So, yes. Please let all men who complain about women being too picky, entitled and demanding know! And also conservatives and traditionalists and religious people
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:40 PM
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And again, we already know it’s an option and yet lots of men don’t do it, especially as they get older
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:38 PM
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My last point is the most relevant — most men would love to have casual sex only But they can’t get it often and easily enough, even with lying, so they settle for relationships Your little brainwave isn’t anything new
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:24 PM
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And that’s not what his strategy is, he’s promoting plain old pump and dump and thinking he invented the wheel or something
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:20 PM
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You could just pay a sex worker, since you’re not interested in love or a relationship. Or have a transactional relationship, so feelings aren’t involved Those seem to be the more common strategies Most men aren’t interested in putting in the time and effort to lead someone on for casual sex, but that is also common and I assure you we already know about it Most men can’t just pump and dump often enough to be happy, which is why they get into relationships in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:18 PM
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You said all laws and rules favor women, not just “the ones I’m talking about” Sexual harassment is part of civil and occupational law, and yes, women have been convicted of it Women can be and have been convicted of sexual assault and rape of men Well that will be very interesting if contracts and agreements can’t be used in modern society A woman also can’t change her mind if the man is owed custody, child support and alimony, did you know? What other agreements do women break ? And again, wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:14 PM
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Again, most women aren’t hot enough to do it at the level they could support themselves with sufficient risk mitigation. It’s also a very short window of time you have to make a living
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:16 PM
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You think the laws don’t apply to women? Or protect men? How should the laws and rules be to not favor women ? Do you think we should be allowed and encouraged to say offensive things and stereotype others? Should people not be allowed to change their minds? What agreements are women breaking ? Have you never heard of hobosexuals and men who leech off their women without contributing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:14 PM
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His point is that no one is pressuring people to do things, which is clearly false. Misogyny wouldn’t exist if men weren’t trying to control and pressure women into doing things
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:04 PM
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How is the market “regulated” ? And is there no market for men, really ? Then why are women putting effort into looks? I assure you that women do dumb things for hot men all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:01 PM
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They don’t want to choose singledom, they want sex and relationships. So how should they be dealt with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:00 PM
5

But isn’t there a male sexlessness/loneliness epidemic? Or are things fine, and men should stop complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:59 PM
1

So it’s men’s fault for not being good enough and complaining about not succeeding?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:58 PM
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This sub, red pill, the manosphere, the Republican Party, and lots and lots of whiners do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:57 PM
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They do, by complaining about what we do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:56 PM
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lol, these men know that prostitution sucks and women don’t want to do it seriously, or at least at the price level that most women would be able to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:36 PM
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I am familiar with this user, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:18 PM
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Most people do not find navel gazing, conspiracy theories, elitism and victim narratives interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:39 PM
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I do love men putting in effort, because that means they actually like me or find me interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:33 PM
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Did you know that inhibitions are not the same as passivity?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:23 PM
2

Your words: “Whiteknights don't just like women, they allow themselves to be used by them”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:20 PM
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Society loves, praises and rewards men and masculinity, and will do anything to excuse them from having their lives “ruined” by their own decisions and actions — as long as they’re of the right group
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:17 PM
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If you’d seen any of his past deleted accounts you’d know why — they’re full of conspiracy theories and antivax rants That’s how I know this new account is his
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:10 PM
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Men know why women are considered wonderful. They just think that shouldn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:09 PM
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Nope, they also encouraged men to socialize and make friends and connections and participate in communities
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:07 PM
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Yes they are, by complaining that women are shallow, have inflated opinions of themselves, are brainwashed by social media, only like Chad, are too picky, are too demanding, are entitled, have too many rights and freedoms and should have them taken away, will cause men to burn down society, won’t have enough babies and families, etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:06 PM
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Op has admitted that he doesn’t talk to women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:04 PM
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That is frankly the only place it matters, as the law is the authority of the land
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:03 PM
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He is the single most powerful man in the world, and was given that position by the majority of eligible, interested people, who heard him say all that and much, much more
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:02 PM
1

Those aren’t things that women say they want in a man, hmmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:00 PM
1

What drawbacks ? I fail to see how having sex is less of a fix for not having sex for an abnormally long time than talking about not having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:13 PM
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Yes. You should have, but you didn’t. So what’s left? Paying, or burning down the house? I am sorry to hear that you got scammed. I can only suggest the legal venues in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:58 PM
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Because it’s a minor potential drawback to something that will definitely resolve OPs complaint, and doesn’t even have to be a risk High reward, very low risk, for an issue that affects only around 1% of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:55 PM
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Because it’s a minor potential drawback to something that will definitely resolve OPs complaint, and doesn’t even have to be a risk High reward, very low risk, for an issue that affects only around 1% of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:55 PM
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It’s a very logical fix for lack of sex, unlike suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:43 PM
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I’m saying there’s an easy fix and it sounds like you’re just making excuses to avoid it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:41 PM
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I didn’t make a judgement about anything, I just read your words And suggested something to fix the issue that’s making you desperate as presented Virginity is about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:39 PM
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No, I did not say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:31 PM
1

That wasn’t “obvious” from your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:28 PM
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Because you’re focused on sex, obviously You don’t say “I’ve never been in love” or “I’ve never had a relationship”, you say “I’ve never had sex”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:28 PM
1

Realistic/healthy goals are better than unrealistic/unhealthy ones
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:59 PM
1

Because no one cares more about you than yourself. People genuinely don’t give a shit until something impacts them directly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:57 PM
1

Not if it causes you physical and (more commonly) emotional/psychological distress The pursuit of approval has a higher chance of detriment than the pursuit of well being
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:52 PM
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I suspect that is the part that really bothers you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:39 PM
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‘I don't see how pursuing a lean muscular body is "imperilling your well being"’ https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/cu87jCHIoz
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:38 PM
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Because your virginity is making you unhappy and desperate, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:34 PM
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You mentioned an ideal (lean muscular body) not improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:33 PM
2

To get experience? I don’t think so
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:32 PM
1

We are equal, under the law. That’s not saying we are identical
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:29 PM
2

“You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it…Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." The leader of the free world, by popular choice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:28 PM
2

Are women telling men they shouldn’t be successful, confident, dominant, active, and strong? Are CEOs, leaders, celebrities, athletes and entertainers weak, shy and timid ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:26 PM
2

And we’re not talking about that level of disparity, are we? We’re talking about the difference between zero and 1
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:22 PM
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The difference between humans and animals is very important; adding on another animal is pretty pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:21 PM
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An improvement doesn’t mean you will fit an ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:20 PM
1

Ah, your go-to insult when you have no response, calling people fake bots
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:17 PM
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I find women very interesting, with lots of practical information about people, institutions and social events and goings on Men, on the other hand, love to brag, exaggerate and hear themselves talk about things that do not help anyone or matter, like politics or philosophy, for example. And sports, gods, so much agonizing about imaginary rules and the hamstrings of strangers At least now sports involves betting money, so there is actually reason to care I suspect you do not have many friends or…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:14 PM
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Who is claiming they are ? The simplicity is what makes it unenjoyable, in fact, as well as the continuousness and cumulative load
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:04 PM
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Got nothing to contribute, I see
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:02 PM
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And guess what? You don’t need to tell them, just like people of all genders don’t have to disclose their n counts, abusive relationships, cured infections, estranged relatives, failed businesses, and the time they wet themselves in 2nd grade
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:59 PM
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Some people just aren’t that way, due to frame or metabolism I also don’t think all the celebrities and normal people I meet who are on ozempic look good either
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:57 PM
4

Just go see a sex worker so you can stop being upset about that part, and free up your brain for better things
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:15 AM
1

We’re not birds or seahorses or groupers, did you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:12 AM
1

Guess men are simple unable to pull their weight around the house unless gay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:11 AM
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Mowing the lawn isn’t hard, that was the job given to us kids. Especially when there were riding mowers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:11 AM
1

Gender roles and traditionalism are all about that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:09 AM
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Gender roles and traditionalism And conservatives and family
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:08 AM
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Aggression, ambition, action, strength, dominance, competitiveness, independence, winning, pride, and material accumulation/validation are all celebrated and rewarded in society, and always have been, with money, status, prizes, fame, admiration, influence and power
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:03 AM
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Whatever is healthy for their individual bodies of course You shouldnt be imperiling your well being
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:00 AM
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I’m not Stacey, why should he be Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:31 AM
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It’s because men are bigger, stronger and hornier than women, same as with neurotypicals
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:09 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:03 AM
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Men of all races are more conservative than their female counterparts, and none more so than black Americans in this past election.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:31 AM
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Most young men are conservative, most young women are progressive, and most people aren’t attractive. Mind the gap
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:03 AM
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Yes. Most men are conservative, most women are progressive. Mind the gap
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:02 AM
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If it didn’t matter, people wouldn’t be complaining about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:40 AM
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Average men can be sexist, lazy, immature, unmotivated, misogynist, bigoted, etc. Most men voted for Trump, after all, especially the younger ones
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:28 AM
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If that were true, political views wouldn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:23 AM
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Are you asking me if I wish misogynists weren’t misogynists? Obviously yes, but that’s kind of a rhetorical question With all the information out there, opinions are pretty much informed and deliberate, and based on values and character For example, men know that average men get into relationships but choose to believe that only 5% of them do, because that’s what their values and character motivates them to believe Me arguing with them is pointless, because they have already decided based on a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:18 AM
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Of course they do. Men are lazy and will take anything, and there plenty of desperate, mentally ill or promiscuous women. And, of course, sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:43 PM
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Nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:39 PM
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Nope, he can go for easier women, and more of them. Works all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:38 PM
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Nope, they’re voluntary, cheap and are useful
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:02 PM
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Or course they can, they say so all the time and let women do the caretaking Nope. Free and easy things aren’t respected, especially by the gender that will fuck anything, by their own insistence
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:02 PM
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Or, we can just wait to make sure the man actually wants us 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:00 PM
2

Again, men don’t care about personality. They care about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:49 PM
1

Why don’t you call out misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:45 PM
3

I assure you that scarcity and playing hard to get predate the red pill by thousands of years
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:44 PM
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Men don’t just want someone attractive; they also want “femininity”, aka submission, service, deference, and sacrifice Unfortunately, we are no longer a slave society, it’s inefficient
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:05 PM
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Either people like sex in relationships or they don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:02 PM
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Or, men are lazy users 🤷‍♀️ Especially if, as you claim, most men don’t like most women. And women not liking being submissive cheerleader mommy bangmaids is neither surprising nor uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:01 PM
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Way more men like sex than women, let alone an individual woman. That is why they have to prove they like an individual woman through effort Otherwise women are likely to be sexual objects and placeholders
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:27 PM
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