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They should be increasing since regular dating started decreasing Ill take that as no, you don’t have any evidence of such
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:53 PM
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If those are the “future” of dating, they should be increasing, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:52 PM
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Those are very good sources but they do not prove that 1) there is more casual sex than previously (all indicators say it’s going down) 2) there is more sex work/compensated dating than previously
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:43 PM
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Same as men: being unreasonable, unattractive or desperate Almost like it’s a human thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:52 PM
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The women in question indeed tell us so, so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:51 PM
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Again, ur welcome to try. You won’t though, just complain
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:46 PM
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So powerless! It’s so sad that you have no autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:45 PM
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No country does this, so no This is just inflammatory rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:30 PM
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I’m afraid sex is consensual
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:29 PM
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Ah, so success requires no effort ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:28 PM
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To make better choices because it’s women’s fault
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:28 PM
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I don’t, cuz I’m not going to be blamed if I’m not racist, nor have people been telling me to be racist my whole life
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:26 PM
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Nope. Almost nobody
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:38 AM
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Not all relationships end in marriage, did you know ? And divorce is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:23 AM
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That’s very predictable, because people don’t fear women. Ever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:22 AM
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You’re the one who says that sex shouldn’t be a big deal, so you tell us what should be a big deal I’m gonna bet you have no answer to that, cuz you never do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:19 AM
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Since she gets paid either way, nope
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:15 PM
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Whiners aren’t looking to be successful
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:53 PM
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Not relevant. What is relevant is that when a man behaves badly, it’s the victims fault that they didn’t adequately avoid or protect themselves from him And then men wonder why people avoid and protect themselves from them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:50 PM
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They have a choice as to how they behave, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:49 PM
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Then provide the reciepts for that claim
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:48 PM
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And lots of unwanted kids entering the underclass. No thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:44 PM
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Of course toxic women exist Who would we have to gossip about and judge if there weren’t ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:42 PM
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No evidence of that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:40 PM
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History says nah
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:38 PM
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And lack of penalty will incentivize more male abandonment
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:27 PM
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Nope. That way you get third world conditions. Most of us don’t want to be fighting off hordes of street kids and gangs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:25 PM
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Most people don’t specify young men; you are free to link evidence to the contrary if you disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:15 PM
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Men simply deny they have a choice in how they behave, so it’s automatically women’s fault
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:13 PM
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Doesn’t matter; not having to pay rather than pay incentives leaving
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:57 PM
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Nope. That incentivizes abandonment by fathers even more
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:51 PM
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Well you won’t know if effort will get you sex until you do if
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:51 PM
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Dumb kids have sex all the time. Animals have sex all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:03 PM
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We’ve all seen porn, bro It’s men who portray their own dicks as “dirtying”, hence their obsession with sluts and n counts and “used up” women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:02 PM
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What should men be doing instead of pursuing and prioritizing sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:01 PM
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Yeah, so its possible if people make an effort, like the OP says
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:00 PM
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That’s what they claim. You calling them liars? Education and exposure to diversity has been proven to change people’s minds very effectively, which is why many groups oppose them Sounds like a bunch of self serving thoughts you made up in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:23 AM
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That’s what men say they want, and don’t actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:01 AM
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And OP hasn’t provided much evidence of that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:22 AM
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Plenty of bigots change their beliefs when their bubbles, echo chambers and circle jerks are breached Who said we had to be “tribal” about it? That’s your invention
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:20 PM
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Most times when I sympathized with a man about his problems, both online and irl, I got either a request for sex or misogyny. This is a common experience for women, judging from complaints about the friend/fuckzone, stalking, harassment, etc I no longer feel the need to offer sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:06 PM
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Of course it does. Because bigots have an interest in normalizing and spreading bigotry
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:02 PM
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If you’re getting this impression from social media, that’s on you. Public hate of anyone is considered bad manners
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:55 PM
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Oh, is that what all women on Reddit are doing ? Spoiler: most women have tried helping men at some point, and we learned our lesson. I certainly did
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:49 PM
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Of course oppression and bigotry have motives, we all know that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:47 PM
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I think some of them will actually live by the principles they push, but not many or a majority And it also doesn’t mean they are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:46 PM
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You say “abusing and bullying”, I say “pushing back against misogyny, bias, self interest and stereotyping”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:19 PM
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I assure you that the manosphere and feminists aren’t the only one involved in gender conflict
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:11 PM
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They care, because the person affects them directly. But they’re still prejudiced
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:10 PM
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Then they don’t mean all, and they’re still misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:51 PM
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If you say you hate all men, you’re anti men Is this hard to understand or….?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:41 PM
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I’m afraid there is no formula, cheat code, or universal Alas, you will have to think, make your own decisions, and have your own standards
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:35 PM
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IMO no
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:33 PM
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Do I think an extreme and biased anecdote/example proves a point ? No, no, I do not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:32 PM
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It’s not mainstream Red pill isn’t mainstream either, unless you consider Tate red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:30 PM
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You have a very narrow view of what the “battle of the sexes” entails
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:27 PM
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So? Not talking about it doesn’t make the motivations and desires disappear The sexes are in conflict because of our basic biology, which drives and affects much of our behaviors. Can’t get away from that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:01 PM
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Anthropology/history/biology begs to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:59 PM
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You’re only serially monogamous if you base your relationship on the honeymoon phase
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:58 PM
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Again, conflict doesn’t cease to exist just because it’s hidden or suppressed. Motives matter and affect actions and decisions, and of course feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:53 PM
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You obviously have an opinion and think these people are wrong, so what do you think the “truth” about “dating difficulties” (a very vague wording, btw) is ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:52 PM
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So improvement isn’t an option ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:50 PM
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“Grifting” doesn’t necessarily mean lying about reality or a problem, it just means that you don’t believe in it or the methods of addressing it yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:22 PM
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It’s not a guarantee, so they won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:21 PM
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And when it’s not working ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:20 PM
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Just because irl has consequences doesn’t mean the agendas disappear
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:19 PM
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Men would never want to be treated the way they treat women. The fact that this is not obvious to you is pretty telling
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:28 PM
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Yes, the formula is -6⅔ ÷ 1.96³ + 3⅚² + 1⅛⁷ ÷ 3⁸ ÷ e
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:15 PM
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I don’t see or hear of content of any of those, so nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:08 PM
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I frankly find it sad and pitiable that it’s so hard for them to be decent, inoffensive and considerate of others Because I don’t find it hard at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:06 PM
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If you wanted to do the things to someone that men want to do women, could you respect them or see them as equal ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:05 PM
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Who said you know better?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:04 PM
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Sounds like this is a personal issue; I suggest therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:06 AM
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Why are you all convinced women are lez? Is there a TikTok going around? Did Trump tweet something?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:02 AM
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“Almost always” “The vast majority” I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:02 AM
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It is to the kid
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:00 AM
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No one gave me money, did stuff for me or gave men the means of independence for being a woman 🤷‍♀️ Life as a mid
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:33 AM
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Yeah, so way less than men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:32 AM
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Nope, men took more free time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:07 AM
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What happened to “men have to treat it as [a big deal] in response”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:03 AM
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Still doesn’t mean men care about what women want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:58 AM
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Just because you think most women are queer doesn’t mean they are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:22 AM
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Homosocial doesn’t mean homosexual I promise you that if I actually liked pussy and tits, I would be all over them, cuz women are pretty darn great
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:57 PM
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I didn’t. That’s why I’m asking If you want more than you need, you don’t really need, don’t you think ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:55 PM
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And you’d be very very wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:48 PM
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Women think domestic labor, romance and feelings are a big deal, and also looks, but men don’t treat them as such 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:45 PM
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Not often enough for men’s taste. We’re too picky and only want Chad, apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:43 PM
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Oh, so men don’t need sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:42 PM
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And you conveniently ignored that she debunked your point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:39 PM
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Yes, but not as much as a guy would
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:44 PM
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If you didn’t mean “equality”, why did you say it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:16 PM
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Oh boy, you used his favorite word
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:16 PM
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You yourself called it equality So it appears that your ideal situation is inequality, with women being less than Why would a woman would want to sign up for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:30 PM
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Having a greater desire makes it a big deal If people are obsessed with something, that automatically makes it a big deal Somehow you do not understand that people’s minds control their reality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:24 PM
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If that were so, we would have sex with men, who always want to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:21 PM
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Nope, cuz we were oppressed before
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:20 PM
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Because men are very into sex, and will fight tooth and nail to get it. Ever try and take away their porn ? Woof
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:48 PM
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Why shouldn’t we expect more now that we work ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:47 PM
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Why is equality being a servant? Why is cleaning your own house oppression?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:26 PM
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Interesting that men aren’t really disagreeing with OP on this one. It’s mostly women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:24 PM
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Because that’s who and what you pay attention to, aka bias
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:28 AM
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I don’t decide what men pay attention to, spend time and money on, talk about, admire and emulate Men do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:37 AM
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If that were so, we would never have sex, dates or marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:35 AM
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You’re free to be flippant about both, I promise
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:34 AM
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You’re free to buy your own baby if it’s so easy then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:33 AM
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Responsible men who let their wives do most of the work and then are shocked when they get divorced
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:31 AM
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Sure it is. It’s plummeting because women can’t find the men they need to have the babies and marriages that they want
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:10 AM
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It’s very relevant as to why women don’t have as many kids as they want to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:06 AM
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Women only have options because men freely give them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:02 AM
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If we wanted to be indiscriminate hornballs like men, we would be, since contraceptives have been available for 80 years We don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:57 AM
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Men can change that at any time, so it is not oppression or injustice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:56 AM
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Career success is the most meaningful thing that men have. We reward male professional success immensely, with money, attention, awards, power, praise, media, fame, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:48 AM
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Sex is more available to women than men because men like sex more than women. Logical, no? I could order a gangbang to my door in 30 minutes for free, because men like sex more than women. You could not, because women don’t like sex as much as men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:42 AM
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I don’t see how divorce and custody is related to babies that already exist So? Increased effort doesn’t mean more effort than women And your numbers are taken only from people that didn’t already have kids; when you ask the general population, it’s over 75% for both genders https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/18/us-adults-in-their-20s-and-30s-plan-to-have-fewer-children-than-in-the-past/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:40 AM
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And yet women divorce them twice as often and receive the majority of custody. Which is, btw, often based on care
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:21 AM
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The sex industry is almost entirely female providers and male clients Men outnumber women on dating apps by at least 2:1 Men are the ones complaining about lack of sex and the friendzone, while women complain about pervs, harassment and the fuckzone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:17 AM
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Sure, men want to posses genetic trophies. Want to nurture, care for and raise them ? Not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:14 AM
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We do, and that makes men upset. Because we used to be unable to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:13 AM
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That’s not what men believe or what the data indicates
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:11 AM
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Of course it is, because women do most of the domestic management and childcare Of course women want men. Some of us just won’t prioritize men above ourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:10 AM
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I’m afraid motherhood and marriage are indeed portrayed as the great, virtuous sacrifices that they are, especially by the social groups that idealize them the most, ie tradcons and the religious
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:02 AM
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Women love love, romance, family and babies. They obsess over and fixate on those things the same way men do about sex And they need men in order to have them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:00 AM
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Just because the odds are good doesn’t mean the goods aren’t odd
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:59 PM
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No, we just don’t value sex the way men do. And there’s nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:45 PM
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No, because not dominant and not masculine men have relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:17 PM
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My opinion isn’t relevant because I don’t believe in it. You do, as a red piller
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:17 PM
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You’re red pill, so you already know it’s some babble about securing the best genes and/or resources for kids, blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:00 PM
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Yes, but you are not an average American man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:57 PM
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If you want a conservative, traditional relationship, yes. I don’t agree that relationships in the many other countries I’ve lived in are much better
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:49 PM
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I don’t think so; red pill is very clear what hypergamy is (women being biologically driven to get the “highest value” male whenever possible) and I do not believe in it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:45 PM
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I just stated why I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:27 PM
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You don’t know me and every person, so no, you cannot verify that. Unless you are going to use some bullshit definition of “frame” such as “not obeying or agreeing with everything”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:06 PM
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Nope, not the same things; hypergamy means “better” in any capacity, in the red pill terminology — money, status, novelty, emotional availability, etc. Also unique to red pill is the assertion that “all women” are hypergamous and thus inherently disloyal and unloving. Not even misogynist religions went that far They are very relevant. Societal motivations are extremely influential, usually resulting in laws, social status, norms and traditions, such as not allowing women to vote or educate thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:58 PM
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No, you don’t need to believe in those things, that is a choice. Dating and interactions don’t have to be antagonistic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:54 PM
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It can be interpreted many ways You’re trad, so that’s why I brought it up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:54 PM
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Then why don’t you date an ugly or fat person on principle The purpose of politicians isn’t to have desired sex with them, by the way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:49 PM
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Because you used retribution as an excuse for not using a service
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:45 PM
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So you pick and choose which Godly sanction to obey ? That doesn’t seem to be very spiritual God also said polygamy and slavery was fine until it wasn’t for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:23 PM
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“Men need variety! It’s our biological imperative to spread our seed!” Hey, God said to be fruitful and multiply. You wanna argue with God?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:00 PM
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More than women, as indicated by the evidence, and yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:06 PM
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The point is that women aren’t feared or suspected but men are And everyone, not just women, agrees with it That’s why dads and other men warn women about male behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:05 PM
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Opinions are allowed, and I already gave it to you. So let’s hear your reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:01 PM
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Prostitution is not polygamy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:59 PM
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Source for an opinion ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:59 PM
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So there is an issue to debate Let’s hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:39 PM
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That we’re not going to treat women like men and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:37 PM
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Not to women. Many of us find no one preferable to anyone, which is why men are upset
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:36 PM
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Who said it was? It just means that I am not afraid of women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:34 PM
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It explains the logical reason why women are trusted and men are not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:34 PM
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It an explanation of the woman are wonderful effect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:33 PM
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It’s not about responsibility. It’s about risk management
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:32 PM
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Why do we have to be shitty like men ? I don’t feel the need to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:31 PM
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It does, because it affects everyone’s behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:30 PM
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We have to, because otherwise we get blamed for trusting and not being wary of men Society doesn’t have time to do individual risk assessment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:28 PM
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Yes. Men are always complaining about men but not women being distrusted and suspected And that’s why
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:26 PM
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Women are human and also part of society, and are not excluded from who women want to interact with Again, complete isolation is not what women, or indeed anyone, wants
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:20 PM
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The first actionable commandment of red pill is to “lift”, so no, they are very much into looks None of the rest of that information is unique to red pill Concepts that are unique to red pill: Hypergamy/“female nature” Societal “malice”, aka society “lying” to men “Gynocentrism”, aka the reason society lies to men “Tests” and “frame”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:12 PM
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There’s no way to disprove that if your rebuttal is that anyone who’s not with a dominant, masculine man is lying, unhappy or unsatisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:10 PM
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Men say they do, and I believe them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:08 PM
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If marriage was strictly a financial or status institution, sure, that could happen Spoiler: it is not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:08 PM
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Part of “better” is the success rate, as stated in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:57 PM
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No, because I don’t believe in forcing people to do things they don’t want to, which is the only way to resolve men’s dissatisfaction with how much sex and relationships they are having If relationships are voluntary, the only way to fix them is to make them involuntary
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:36 PM
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A system is not personal, obviously. I prefer to be the ends, not the means
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:33 PM
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I don’t find his reasoning convincing, and I am free to say so
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:47 AM
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Who said it’s better? It’s just more likely
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:46 AM
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So no, becoming Chad is not a more realistic strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:43 AM
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Because he is tormented by his lack of casual sex, to the point of behaving immorally
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:41 AM
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Why does dating have to be equal? Especially if doing so means that women have to fuck men they don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:40 AM
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How often do men get killed by sex workers, now? Do you think it’s more or less than the number of sex workers that get killed by clients? Why would I receive retribution from a gardener who scammed me? I didn’t prosecute them; I just chalked it up to bad luck and hired a more reputable one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:23 AM
2

You don’t need to, because the benefits are obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:38 AM
1

There’s plenty of reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:38 AM
2

I’d guess the vast majority of women have not scorned or called you evil
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:37 AM
2

What kind of reciprocation? Sex and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:30 AM
1

What you have individually done or not done doesn’t affect a system of billions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:26 AM
2

We have no way of proving if anyone has put in effort on an individual level
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:25 AM
2

People never stop receiving benefits from society, even if they don’t contribute. We have no way of verifying what you’ve done for individual people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:24 AM
1

If you’re awkward and disabled, you are less attractive, platonically and romantically It may not be deserved, but it’s logical
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:21 AM
2

No, because “trust me bro” isn’t reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:20 AM
1

No way to measure that except your own biases, conveniently But let’s say this — if every woman wanted to cheat, she could. Because men would be happy to oblige
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:14 AM
2

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:12 AM
1

He already volunteered that information
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:12 AM
1

It is very believable that people don’t want to put in effort but receive benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:11 AM
2

What do you give and not get back? Did I say it was guaranteed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:11 AM
1

Of course you are. Men are the primary thing that women need male protection from Systems aren’t about individual contributions or culpability. Otherwise, we’d require personal farming, educational, construction, military, legal, etc, contributions from you if you were to benefit from the same; you benefit from the streamlining of taxes and shared contributions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:07 AM
1

Red pill itself says that most men can’t be Chads, and so uses “game” and “strategy” to compensate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:01 AM
5

The fact that red pill is a minority movement and most men fuck, date and marry says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:00 AM
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Uh huh, if someone paid a woman to fuck you and you didn’t know, you’d 100% be able to tell, is that right ? And since so many men seem fine with “dog shit”, I’m going to doubt that it’s that different
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:59 AM
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Again, the absolute is the issue, not the reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:57 AM
1

“Dramatic difference” is the part I doubt and that you cannot confirm And if it was so pronounced or mattered to men so much, prostitution wouldn’t be the oldest and one of the most lucrative industries in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:43 AM
2

Yes. We don’t have to accept that as “truth”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:42 AM
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Again, saying “it’s because you chose Chad” anytime a woman complains is not probability
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:41 AM
6

I didn’t say they didn’t. Red pill just claims to be “the truth”, while blue pill is “lies”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:25 AM
2

Everyone give a flying fuck, because almost no one is willing to live in complete isolation and never see another human ever
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:54 AM
0

Still doesn’t make it meaningful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:52 AM
4

I assure you that we already know that women are picky and men are indiscriminate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:51 AM
0

So you are talking out of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:49 AM
1

Have you been to a sex worker ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:46 AM
2

So? We’re not comparing emotional to unemotional sex, we’re comparing free vs paid unemotional sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:39 AM
2

Is that the normal or expected outcome ? I got scammed by a gardner, didn’t stop me from hiring another one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:37 AM
1

I like Lilith, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:34 AM
1

Is becoming Chad a more realistic strategy than not being a recluse/antisocial ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:32 AM
1

If you’re nice and considerate, why does no one want to be your friend ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:30 AM
2

For more effort and no guarantee? Mmkay
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:27 AM
2

For a single squirt? Seems like the same thing in the end, for more effort — unless you’re really hot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:25 AM
2

How is a one-off “liking” a person in any meaningful way, other than their body?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:24 AM
2

Why? In the end it’s just about as meaningful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:23 AM
12

Higher expectations come with more disappointment, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:22 AM
4

Am I supposed to be rude if I’m not interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:20 AM
0

What you’re playing for also matters, and can differ
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:12 AM
10

The fact that most people fuck, date and marry,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:12 AM
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That’s PUA, aka red pill minus the misogyny And if you’re looking for anyone, not someone, it will probably work Problem is, most of us aren’t looking for “anyone”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:10 AM
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If you can cheat, we can cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:09 AM
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Citations needed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:00 AM
2

“Instead of just taking” Didn’t read what I wrote; typical
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:01 PM
3

Do you understand what “reciprocity” is ? It’s a very basic level of interaction that even animals employ Let me give a concrete example: if my mom died, I’d have no reason to talk to my dad, because he never talks to or shows interest in anything about me. My bfs dad, on the other hand, shows up to family gatherings and cooks and socializes, with his new wife and adult stepkids
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:55 PM
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I’m afraid that men are not in fact barred from collective societal benefits such as education, safety, utilities, employment, the legal system, transport, roads, services, social security, health care, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:25 PM
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Most men get angry when women don’t give a flying fuck And even back in the Stone Age, not giving a flying fuck was not normal Humans are social omnivores, not solitary carnivores or vegetarians
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:22 PM
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If men left us alone, we wouldn’t require men to intervene Men are their own protection racket
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:19 PM
-1

Oh really? They have no family and friends ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:04 PM
-1

Sounds like an excuse to not do anything for anyone but yourself With logical results
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:02 PM
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Same thing, if you base it off looks alone and don’t care what they want. Most women don’t want to be found attractive by as many people as men do, because we don’t want to fuck as many people as men do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:24 PM
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And they aren’t, so I see no issue
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:24 PM
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Because Chad is hot and you aren’t, and you already know this. That’s also why women with big tits get attention and free stuff (and also harassment) and I don’t, and there is nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:20 PM
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Or, you could reciprocate instead of just taking. Absent/indifferent dads, family members, spouses and friends are very common. The men who put in effort into people tend to recieve back; the ones who grunt and watch sports all day, not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:17 PM
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That is what being desired is, yes. What you actually do doesn’t change what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:11 PM
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You are attracted to their looks or to their dysfunction?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:04 PM
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Aww, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:41 PM
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They don’t like people who don’t do what they want. I’m sure they like people who do what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:38 PM
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Since more than 20% of women are in relationships, looks don’t matter to quite a few of them, which is very unshallow
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:37 PM
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That’s great, because that means women aren’t shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:30 PM
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You’d see the same for any social media post featuring a servile woman, did you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:15 PM
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Unattractive, aka physically offensive, is a minority, not average
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:10 PM
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Sure, one woman represents all 4 billion of us. Completely and totally Just like Trump represents all American men, every single one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:08 PM
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Why is polite indifference bad? What should we be doing instead ? Let’s hear how everyone should be interacting with each other platonically
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:26 PM
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Then I see no substantive difference in the way the genders treat each other — aka with polite indifference — nor do I see an issue with it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:04 PM
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Not always They also portray all average men as good because only attractive men do bad things. If a woman ever has a bad experience, it’s because she chose an attractive man instead of an unattractive man Exhibit A of “women go for assholes and not nice guys like me” https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/ck2Z7bVQY8
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:47 PM
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Men aren’t just indifferent to harassers, misogynists and sexual assaulters. They defend, minimize or deny what they’ve done, and call women liars, exaggerators or overly sensitive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:38 PM
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Maybe to you. Most people would just straight up go to a sex worker
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:35 PM
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I don’t find it illogical or unreasonable that men primarily value their partners for sex, since sex is extremely important to men, according to men Don’t you believe men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:00 PM
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Nope. Indifference isn’t objectification. Wanting to use someone’s body for sexual gratification is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:51 PM
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All of us, hm? Not just the loud and obvious ones, right? By that metric, all men sexually harass me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:48 PM
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Traits such as…?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:47 PM
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Way more men have offended me with their words and actions than their faces and bodies, so I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:45 PM
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Is that unnatural or a moral failing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:45 PM
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Women don’t consider wanting to fuck someone a big deal, nor virtuous. Because it isn’t. It’s selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:42 PM
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I’m afraid that thinking “I’d hit that” isn’t considered “visible” to most women Being an object isn’t being a person
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:41 PM
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Way more men have offended me with their words and actions than their faces and bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:39 PM
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You do realize that porn, like most things, is mostly meh or even shit? And that shit porn isn’t quality ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:38 PM
1

“Lucky kid”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:42 AM
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Women want to love men, but also themselves; romance is unfortunately a mutual endeavor A lot of women don’t want babies. But more do, and are even desperate for them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:38 AM
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Nope. Sounds like a minority fetish for both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:45 AM
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Men would rather complain about and focus on looks, because that’s easier than being likable and liking others
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:44 AM
1

Not if your point is that women don’t bring anything as important as sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:41 AM
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It does. You think society tells them to do it; I think men are pervs all on their own Even back when sex was heavily shamed for both sexes, men were still whoring, raping and lusting If even the threat of eternal suffering doesn’t work, I’d have to say it’s pretty inherent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:29 AM
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Nope, it clearly shows that sex is the priority
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:53 PM
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It’s plausible that porn is consensual while SA is not, by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:13 PM
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Obviously your sex drive is incompatible with monogamy so I will decline dating you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:12 PM
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I like honesty, and it matches up with women’s complaints about being fuckzoned
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:37 PM
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When men ask women what they bring besides their bodies and say they feel love through sex only, that is the correct conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:36 PM
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Plenty of men would be happy to only receive sex and service from their partners. Since, ya know, women are boring and dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:34 PM
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Nope, there were plenty of good reasons why your point wasn’t clear In any case, what men say irl and on social media is just as valid as what women say in influencing the discourse; it’s not unilateral or disproportionate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:44 PM
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“and I mean actual patriarchy not the radfem bullshit in Korea and Japan is beginning to cause grave concerns” This is a run-on sentence and your meaning was unclear. Commas are your friend And plenty of men do consider the 4B movement to be “radfem”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:14 PM
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You can be friendly with some who still lets you do most of the work or childcare
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:48 PM
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I’m not prescribing or attacking anything You just brought up East Asian countries and called them radfems. I am merely correcting that There is no need to exaggerate with claims like “women find 99% of men unattractive”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:47 PM
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Friendship is mutual enjoyment of company Casual sex can be mutual enjoyment of sex Relationships can be mutual enjoyment of sex and company
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:10 PM
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People can be transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:43 PM
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Nope, otherwise relationships would be prostitution or sex slavery
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:42 PM
1

How do you know it’s not ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:41 PM
1

Oh, so you have female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:28 PM
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I have not seen this irl or on social media — do they say such on twox or dating sites ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:41 PM
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It’s not baffling; a lot of guys just don’t like people, and women in particular. But they want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:39 PM
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Men say this all the time, and even men don’t believe them. So weird
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:37 PM
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Not necessarily; if they can feel love, it’s through sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:37 PM
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Au contraire: can you imagine women saying stuff like this? https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/xTwAMSF8Rg https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/HxPl8jKJL0
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:30 PM
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You would have a point if male and female animals had identical sexual behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:24 PM
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Only seeing women as sex objects is sexist, and perfectly illustrates OPs point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:23 PM
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There’s very little flexibility within Korean and Japanese social systems — neither men nor society are willing to change roles and responsibilities, so the only option for women is to opt out or minimize their commitment. That is why their sex and fertility rates are low and will likely continue to decrease Same with their work culture in general, frankly, it’s either all or nothing. There’s a good example of blaming women right there, denying that men do these things
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:20 PM
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lol, men are the biggest misandrists
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:26 PM
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Now, now; it’s good when men are open and honest about these things, so we can avoid them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:24 PM
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You are illustrating the title of this post beautifully
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:11 PM
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Male and female animals do not exhibit identical sexual behavior, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:10 PM
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Oh, you fuck your friends, family, neighbors and work colleagues? You must be very happy, or very lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:08 PM
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Men don’t need to be “programmed”, it comes with the hardware
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:05 PM
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That stuff is happening in those counties because women didn’t push back, not because they did I don’t give advice or support to men anymore because I get either misogyny or sex requests when I do, and I’ve seen the same happen to plenty of women. Men themselves support this by complaining about women, their advice, and the friendzone Lesson learned
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:02 PM
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Be able to play popular songs on the piano. Worked so well his colleagues would roll their eyes whenever he did it Be a foreigner or around foreign women and speak a non-European language at least at an intermediate level Bartend, formerly or informally Card tricks (in context) Looks like someone never watched the Tao of Steve; granted, it is a very old movie at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:58 PM
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You have never observed male animals, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:45 PM
3

“as countries become more developed” Press X to doubt that this happens in the next century, or at all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:45 PM
2

Citation needed Most men in relationships want a squid shoved up their butts but are too shy to ask for it; they then take this out on society by betting on sports and wearing socks with sandals. Therefore, women need to shove squids up their partners’ butts to remedy this problem I don’t need to provide proof of this claim
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:43 PM
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Sex is the priority, followed by service and fidelity; actually liking the person is a distant third at best Men openly say this all the time; it’s not a secret
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:42 PM
1

Women love love and babies. They hold out for love and will even raise babies alone
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:02 AM
4

Again, women merely hold power by being less desperate and indiscriminate. That is neither difficult nor complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:59 AM
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Men have the power to take that power away anytime they want. He doesn’t have to be the interviewee either Dating is voluntary. Nobody is holding a gun to your head
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:39 AM
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They want safety from other men, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:21 AM
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Or, to get what they want from women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:21 AM
5

Preferences are fine. They’re not guarantees. Nothing is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:29 PM
3

The answer is no; if you were hot and charming enough to be a trophy husband, you’d already know it and have women pursuing you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:12 PM
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Yes, so, like I said, you don’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:56 PM
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You think jay Z and pusha t don’t have multiple accusations ? Well, then you haven’t been listening, probably because it’s in your interest to not hear
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:13 PM
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Because we are prepared to go without. Guy objectifies me? Great, I don’t need to associate with him Man doesn’t like that I expect him to have a job like me? Great, we’re not compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:11 PM
0

And yet, people who are average fuck, date and marry — to other average people
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:08 PM
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That’s about options, not power. Most of us want mutual desires, not coerced desires
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:07 PM
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Most housewives have babies, unless they’re trophy wives. And even most trophy wives have kids. Are you hot enough to be a trophy husband ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:05 PM
1

Again, if several people mention them, is that not enough ? Sounds like you don’t really care about principles or people, just that you get to keep listening to the music you like Typical
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:03 PM
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Domestic and emotional service, obviously. And if you did that worse than a woman, why would she be with you, when she can find a man that is worse than her at those things AND brings in money ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:46 PM
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Why does dating have to be about power ? For me, it’s a search
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:43 PM
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Sex and service and babies are very valuable to men, so it’s not equal. What do men have to give in exchange for these supremely valuable things ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:25 PM
1

I’m afraid the Epstein files do contain photos, logs and other such proof, such as testimony from multiple sources. It also disproves the claim of many people that they didn’t even know Epstein That not good enough for ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:17 PM
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If you were getting laid by these women I bet you wouldn’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:56 PM
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Why would a woman be in a relationship with such a man? He gets something out of it, what does she get ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:52 PM
3

Why’s that? Why shouldn’t you be expected to give something to get something?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:51 PM
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Arranged marriages are transactional, and neet men have little to transact
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:27 PM
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“Women” is a general term, did you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:23 PM
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You can. We just won’t like it Men are free to not associate with and complain about objectifying women just like women are free to not date and complain about objectifying men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:20 PM
2

Doesn’t mean that unremarkableness is more attractive than your personality or job
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:19 PM
1

Most people, of either gender, aren’t neets
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:18 PM
6

My partner and I rarely fight or even disagree. My relationships with my parents, siblings and coworkers are way more dramatic than my romantic relationship, and always have been I can breakup with my partner and friends anytime, because I chose them; it’s harder to break up with your generic/legal family and your job
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:17 PM
4

Male strength is great when used for good
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:46 AM
3

How can you leverage your looks when you’re normal, average and unremarkable ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:45 AM
4

The data disagrees
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:43 AM
10

So boring relationships between boring people do not exist? My parents and aunts and uncles actually had tons of drama which I never saw ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:43 AM
5

Not necessary, plenty of people get along fine and even great
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:56 AM
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Or, perhaps you don’t notice undramatic relationships because….they’re undramatic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:54 AM
6

And yet, I’m sure not rich, not successful, rural guys get laid and marry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:54 AM
1

Tinder is the most popular app, so how is it a failure ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:52 AM
2

I don’t understand why proof of people going to underage sex island is illustrative of false claims
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:47 AM
1

Except when you’re just looking to flip it Then any apartment will do, for the cheapest price available
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:49 PM
1

The evolutionary deficiency is being a seed package instead of an egg carton. Males that function as caretakers, however, are the ones who are competed over
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:35 PM
3

If you’re visiting an exclusive island where the purpose is having sex with minors, you’re there to have sex with minors
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:20 PM
5

The vast majority of men fuck, date and marry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:18 PM
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I don’t think being picky is framed as immoral; choosing badly is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:13 PM
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Unattractive (which includes certain races and minorities) gay dudes can’t fuck who and as much as they want, much like straight men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:12 PM
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I don’t find men’s genitals attractive, unless he has a hard on. But their bodies and faces are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:10 PM
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Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:08 PM
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So you’re married and have a dependent wife like you wanted ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:07 PM
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So? It shows what men want more than women, and that is sex. Cuz they buy it way, way more than women If initiating is so easy, why do men do so way way more than women ? If sex is so wanted by women, why don’t they fuck more? Because men will almost certainly oblige them The Ashley Madison leak showed that women don’t want to cheat any where near as much as men I, a mid old woman, could go out and get a gangbang delivered to my door for free in 30 minutes if I wanted to. Plenty of men would lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:36 PM
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Yes, she wants his money cuz she can’t make her own. Doesn’t mean she wants to fuck him more, just that she’ll put up with it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:32 PM
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Pretty much all sex work is purchased by men, gay and straight. Men outnumber women at least 2:1 on most dating sites A cheating site was found to be 95% male
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:34 PM
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You can go to some other country and buy a woman just like that African dude did. You’ll have to stay overseas if you want to keep having sex she doesn’t want though, cuz that’s illegal in the US But it’s definitely doable
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:28 PM
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Isn’t monogamy “bonding”? Aren’t long term monogamous relationships based on things other than sex and attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:35 PM
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Yes. And they are constantly fighting/murdering and not getting anything done (chimps) or would be wiped out if a more aggressive species invaded (bonobos) Only someone who’s lived with air conditioning, food surplus, beds, shelter, analgesics, constant entertainment, basic sanitation and lack of violence their whole lives would say such a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:31 PM
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Yes, we’re not indiscriminate. Nothing wrong with that. Btw gay male dating has problems, and they aren’t much different from straight ones — shallowness, flakiness, lack of commitment, pickiness/discrimination
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:27 PM
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What is it for then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:25 PM
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It’s just a way to say that women don’t have anywhere the libido that men do, that makes them hit on everyone and everything
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:24 PM
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It does, that’s why women have much less casual sex than men would like them to, because we’re not compulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:35 PM
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That’s what it means in practical terms
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:34 PM
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Aka no casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:26 PM
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Responsive libido, like they said
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:25 PM
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Luckily, you will soon have AI gfs
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:22 PM
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Typical man, only thinks of the sex part. Guess what? Biology isn’t so short sighted The only way rampant promiscuity works is if there is no parental relationship. Which would really restrict society
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:20 PM
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Monogamous people can have casual sex in between partners. My understanding is that demis do not
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:08 PM
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I thought it meant you only want monogamous sex I don’t think we are taught that male and female sexuality is the same. We’re all aware that men are thirsty hornballs and women are not
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:41 PM
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Men already know why. They just don’t like or agree with it The only reasonable standard a woman can have is whatever that particular man wants her to have
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:38 PM
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Let’s see these studies you claim exist We’re into men. Just not in the way and degree that men want
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:36 PM
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You did the same in your OP — “women like these things and they can’t be progressive”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:19 PM
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Bigotry is bigotry; why would gendered hatred be different from racial hatred ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:18 PM
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When a woman says those things, we call them lesbians, no? Attracted to women and not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:20 AM
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So there’s your answer: Women like talent (and status and money) because we’re not hornballs
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:05 AM
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Any country as an example ? If not, than it’s kind of a useless ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:04 AM
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Then she’s bi
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:50 AM
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The woman he quotes finds men unattractive and women attractive. I believe we call those types of women “lesbians”, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:50 AM
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Probably because they are so focused on looks. Nothing else stands a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:42 AM
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I don’t think men are drooling over a video because they think she’s available
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:31 AM
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Tons of men get turned on by women demonstrating competence/dominance. See the “upvoted because girl” subreddits
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:03 AM
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I said, “being shut out of most jobs” I didn’t say slavery I didn’t say cooking and cleaning Perhaps you should review history; that was an actual thing that happened to black people, Jews, Chinese people and women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:54 AM
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You didn’t read the quote, did you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:38 AM
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You think your friends phone is normal ? Being shut out of most jobs is oppression. You can ask black or Chinese or Jewish people if it isn’t, mmkay?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:37 AM
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The woman he quotes finds men unattractive and women attractive. I believe we call those types of women “lesbians”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:13 AM
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Men aren’t making mistakes. Women are just not as horny and desperate as men, never have been and never will be The only reason this wasn’t apparent in the past is because women were oppressed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:43 AM
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So what system should we have ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:38 AM
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You shouldn’t listen to a lesbian if you want to know what straight women think
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:35 AM
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Why would women love sex when we’re insulted, judged and shamed for having it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:09 AM
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Nope, I have no reason to like it, as I’m not attractive and don’t benefit from thirst Men love loving sex; they say it gives them meaning, purpose, excitement and motivation, as well as pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:55 AM
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I don’t have to believe in a thing to describe it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:22 AM
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Oh, so what are men biologically programmed to do ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:53 PM
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You did, of course. In this comment and the previous one. You have written pages and page on it Women embraced capitalism because it was a better deal than the feudalism of the family and society, where one person got to call all of the shots. Most people prefer freedom, despite its messiness, to dependence, restrictions and coercion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:12 PM
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Who said it had to do with money? Most people have concerns other than sex and money, ya know But, again, I think those other things aren’t important to you, so relationships make little sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:28 PM
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Again, are those people in the booth with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:42 PM
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Ok. I don’t believe that successful, competitive, dominant men are either all conservative or all shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:42 PM
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You find the behaviors and personalities of 95% of women unappealing, so clearly you do not like women. Thus, it would be more efficient for you to not interact with women except for sex or payment, which you presumably find acceptable with more than 5% of women I don’t see why this is so hard to understand or enact. A large minority of women are interested in transactional relationships where you do not have to pretend to like them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:40 PM
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How would anyone know your private vote, hmm ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:23 PM
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Not really, because relationships are upper level friendships. Unless you regularly penetrate your friends bodies ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:22 PM
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The majority of men and a large minority of women have that thinking, as elections clearly show
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:18 PM
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Most people don’t get along and make friends with everyone, just a select few If you don’t have 20 friends, how do you expect to have 20 relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:14 PM
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It’s hard to get people interested other people for anything, yes —- unless it’s men and sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:09 PM
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It’s in their interest to vote progressive, obviously, but they don’t Because progressivism also helps women (and the children that often come with women), and that’s bad, because women are the enemy It’s the same attitude as towards any minority, like immigrants or POC — if it also helps those people, it’s bad. That famous Trump voter that lost their healthcare is example number 1 of that attitude: “He’s not hurting the people he’s supposed to be hurting!”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:04 PM
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If you only like sex with women, go for sex only. Otherwise you’ll have to deal with our (shudder) personhood, which you just said you don’t like, as is your right You will, of course, have to exchange something for body use, which is how reciprocity works
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:02 PM
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Yes, we know. Men are trying to find sex opportunities so of course they are indiscrimate; women are trying to find honesty, so of course they are prudent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:59 PM
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Yes. Because we don’t have male libidos and agendas
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:52 PM
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You should, cuz otherwise you’re wasting everyone’s time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:49 PM
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lol, we have to give examples, but these examples are also anecdotes and therefore not valid Sounds like our only acceptable option is to agree with you and do what you want, unsurprisingly Everyone knows that men approach and why
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:47 PM
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If you don’t like women, stick to hookers, tradcons, and other transactional service relationships; everyone will be happier and more fulfilled
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:43 PM
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It’s hilarious that being interested in a person is a huge effort. I want to know more about any person I’m interested in, it’s not a chore —- unless they’re not interested
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:39 PM
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Then you don’t have to “try” to find them attractive; they just are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:38 PM
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If he’s “trying”, he’s not actually attracted to me. He should go for someone he doesn’t have to “try” to be attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:37 PM
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It depends on your inherent personality and looks, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:30 PM
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Progressive means submissive, uncompetitive, timid, and insecure ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:23 PM
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Why “try” when better looking women exist ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:18 PM
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Most men are not in the 1%, so yeah, it’s in their interest. That’s how percentages work
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:16 PM
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Yup. Those women should be mocked and called out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:13 PM
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So women are saying you’re a fourth as valuable as your wife? Your wife says she values you less? Why didn’t your mom live in fear that your dad would leave her or feel worthless?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:07 PM
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I’m not in favor of gaslighting and lying, sorry. If they don’t wanna, they don’t wanna, and that’s fine I don’t want it done to me, so I don’t want it done to them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:02 PM
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The whole point is that OP doesn’t want to spend a dime
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:00 PM
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How so? People are allowed to want what they want in a free society, and nothing has ever made men stop wanting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:58 PM
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So why are they in them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:52 PM
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Then the answer to your question is obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:48 PM
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Plenty of men would disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:33 AM
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Yes, because that disproves the OP. Describing something isn’t condoning it. Is OP prescribing women’s insults by describing them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:24 AM
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Yeah, and? Why do you assume they’re not going to do anything or not be a traditional wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:21 AM
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Where are women being hypocrites like OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:55 AM
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Then it’s men’s fault for being too eager to date women and letting them move on
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:54 AM
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How is remarrying not moving on
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:52 AM
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Catcalls and threats/harassment are not approaches, that’s just straight up hostility I get fewer approaches than before but they’re more subtle and laid back, and I attribute that to me aging rather than any change in society
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:50 AM
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But sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:46 AM
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Link the comment then
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:44 AM
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He can, and we can accurately call him a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:43 AM
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Being desperate/putting up with shitty behavior, only talking about themselves, not being interested in the other person, overinvesting, misreading interest, being passive, oversharing, talking about exes, being suspicious or bitter over past experiences, being shitty people Ya know, normal selfish human stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:39 AM
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He doesn’t work, he lives with his parents
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:12 AM
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Where did I say that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:09 AM
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Oh, so it’s ok for you but not for women Why don’t you cook and clean like you expect a woman to, since you’re being provided for like a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:40 AM
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He also doesn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:19 AM
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How can you take care of yourself if you don’t work? Who is paying for your food, shelter, phone service, electricity, water?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:13 AM
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Is sex the only reason a man talks to a woman ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:58 AM
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Most of us already have jobs, did you know?. There’s only an 11% employment gap between the genders in the US, and 10% or less in more socialized countries in Europe, so I don’t see what the problem is PS: You can already go back to our “roots”. They’re called poor countries; I’m sure they’d love to have you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:45 AM
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Oh, women don’t have jobs? Interesting claim
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:31 AM
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Pay us for “taking care of society” like men are paid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:11 AM
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Yeah, cuz you get paid. Pay us and we might. Or not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:46 AM
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You guys take care of society if it’s so great; we’re tired of being your servants
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:35 AM
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Marriage is a legal construct, relationships are not Not condemning polyamoury doesn’t mean supporting or incentivizing it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:32 AM
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Remarriage rates, always higher for men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:30 AM
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Because you’re supposed to do what men want, not what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:30 AM
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Most of the same things men do wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:28 AM
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Of course appearance matters And most people date similar appearance levels Envy, however, doesn’t care about boring fairness
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:24 AM
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I don’t believe it, since I’m neither young nor attractive and still get hit on, both in acceptable and not acceptable ways. I’d say there’s more harassment/catcalling than approaches now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:23 AM
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Oh, such as who?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:20 AM
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When it causes them to complain enough that it annoys me, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:39 PM
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You’re well aware of what I meant
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:37 PM
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The genders having differing and antagonistic desires is neither lied about nor prettified What has changed is that both can be pursued instead of one
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:20 PM
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Men wanting sex too much with too many women is more destructive to dating
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:15 PM
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That’s a lot of words to say the basic knowledge that men are a lot hornier than women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:14 PM
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Oh, I thought men are biologically programmed to want variety and to spread their seed ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:07 PM
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Where did I say I agreed with it, now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:45 PM
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I’m not blaming men. I merely have little sympathy because of their common and widespread behavior, which I have experienced and been personally affected by many times
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:43 PM
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Empathy is understanding, and I can understand men just fine. It isn’t hard What you want is sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:41 PM
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Not wanting to fuck you and not liking misogyny is not misandry, sorry to inform you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:40 PM
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Women can cheat anytime they want because men are always up for it Men can’t cheat anywhere near as much as they want because women are rarely up for it Women are the limiters, not drivers, of infidelity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:40 PM
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And that’s relevant because…..?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:38 PM
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When two thirds decline to vote for the progressive candidate, that’s a pretty big majority Not at all — conservative actions are going to ensure the opposite, with gerrymandering, court appointments, removal and dismantling of progressive programs, creation/funding of conservative/antiliberal institutions, legislating increased wealth to the already wealthy, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:03 AM
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Addiction is very easy to understand This is getting pretty close to saying that we can only “understand” if we’ve experienced the exact same thing, which would pretty much invalidate the entire concept of empathy Because I don’t think guys want to be treated like a regular person from the way they treated me and most women, and also from how they say they wanted to be treated, which is like a sex object or a victim. I would believe guys who said that the same women who asked him for empathy imm…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:52 AM
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Ok, almost every woman. There aren’t that many men who are related to me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:49 AM
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She should. I’m over her because of it Progressives are a minority in this country. By a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:38 AM
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I didn’t say they were contradictory Sounds like your not ready to have a good faith discussion with all these absolute denials
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:36 AM
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If you experienced that from every woman in your life, and it’s widely discussed on social media as a universal experience, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:34 AM
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What is taboo? Insulting women’s appearance or sexualizing them? “Quiet, piggy” — the most powerful man in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:32 AM
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Yes, I have had people of both genders tell me about trauma, usually CSA but also unrelated. All of that stuff is perfectly understandable and conceivable, because I know how horrific people can be from history, the media, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:32 AM
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Happens to pretty much all women, and is also confirmed by the many men who complain about being led on and friendzoned, and say that the main reason for talking to a woman is sex —- so I’m confident I’m not special or abnormal And if I didn’t learn from my experiences, I would be called stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:20 AM
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Whenever I showed sympathy for a man who wasn’t related to me (and even a few times when he was) he responded with either misogyny, resentment or his dick. Why shouldn’t I learn from my experiences like an intelligent being ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:07 AM
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“There’s no way all these negative things show up on the first date” “Most people are hyper aware of being the best versions of themselves on the first date” Doesn’t look like you’re open to any discussion or debate, especially since you haven’t engaged with anyone else on your own post
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:04 AM
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Understanding and imagination is the basis for considering other people. This is not difficult, because people aren’t all that different or complex I don’t have to agree with anyone to understand what they’re thinking and feeling The main concerns men have with women are sexual and sympathetic, by their own admission, so it is relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:01 AM
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Again, I guess there is no such thing as a bad first date, in your world
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:54 AM
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Like I said, empathy is understanding, and I can understand men just fine. Sympathy and compassion are what I don’t have, because of the previously mentioned misogyny, resentment, threats, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:51 AM
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They don’t wanna socialize with each other but only want to sexualize women, most of whom don’t want to fuck them So who does that leave them to not be lonely with ? The cause of female loneliness depends on who’s perspective you’re looking at — either women are too picky or men aren’t interested in their personhood (as opposed to their bodies). Or perhaps both Most men’s concerns with respect to women stem from the fact that women won’t fuck them. This naturally leads to misogyny, violence, ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:44 AM
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Why is promiscuity bad character, since it’s what most men are trying to do? Of course men comment on women’s appearance all the time, they themselves admit that “fuckable or not” is their main criteria of women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:36 AM
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I can understand men just fine. I’m just not going to fuck them or ignore/forgive their misogyny, resentment, threats, entitlement and selfishness Men cause their own loneliness. It’s hard to feel sympathy for that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:32 AM
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Either there’s way more chads than claimed or they’re slumming a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:31 AM
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Oh, is insulting sluts, fatties, uggos, hags, hoes, genitals, holes, etc, “punching up”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:29 AM
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Oh; so discussing past bigotry is unacceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:22 AM
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Lovely, I guess we’re all lying then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:21 AM
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Blatantly awful, impatient, slovenly, uncaring, thirsty, anxious, boring, entitled, desperate, bigoted, strange, uninterested, etc, is quite a lot of people, did you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:08 AM
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These are all real opinions and explanations for why people think socializing is dumb and worthless OP says it right in the text: “But some guys get laid and don’t have to do all that”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:01 AM
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Red pill women are basically half assed tradcons
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:35 AM
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The problem with OLD is the same as with irl dating — too many casual thirsty sex seekers who lie about wanting relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:31 AM
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She’s a liar so we don’t care. Let the courts handle her and her equally shitty ex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:25 AM
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Of course it did. The whole point is that men are lied to and here is the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:18 AM
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When women had no options, men could do what they liked. Now men have to be better to be an option, and many, if not most, aren’t. And that’s disappointing No, they don’t have to. The women that are fine being beaten are free to go get beaten, and the rest of us will just be alone, or disappointed, or happy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:06 PM
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Again, whatever school of RP, without the grievance/gender separatism basis it’s just undirected self improvement Most of what he wrote is mainstream dating/adulting advice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:02 PM
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Or, men are just disappointing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:00 PM
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Of course women say what kind of man they want, with their standards and requirements, which have been communicated and complained about by men forever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:50 PM
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Nope. The entire concept of the “red pill”, taken from the movie, is that it awakens you to the “truth” — that society and female nature is against you and lying to/exploiting you Without that unifying narrative/grievance, red pill is just self improvement and PUA
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:32 PM
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The only reason to get mad that an asshole is getting laid is the assumption that niceness should be the thing that gets you laid
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:42 PM
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Women pass down genes more often because men like killing each other and themselves way more than they like killing women. Please see “warfare, history of” for many example of this process, and also r/whywomenlivelonger
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:29 PM
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If you think nice should be the determiner of laid, then you don’t know what nice is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:27 PM
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It’s certainly easier and more convenient for you, yes A basic, hatey life is still pretty good by most metrics, if you don’t sabotage it with your hate Oh, are you also neurodivergent?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:06 PM
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That’s true, beta bux is more practically described as a relationship where the man doesn’t get everything red pill thinks he should, just like hypergamy is more practically described as the woman being dissatisfied in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:01 PM
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And under 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:51 PM
2

RP is the reason for self improvement; self improvement is not necessarily because of RP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:48 PM
2

That why we have to make it better
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:42 PM
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Beta buxing is being valued for what you provide, not your sexuality or personality Traditional marriages are all beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:41 PM
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Nope. If the bar is on the floor and your partner can’t get over it, you deserve better — for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:30 PM
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My comment was about progress and change, and I was specifically referring to OPs use of the term, so no. Unless you are OPs alt?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:28 PM
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Yes, I do think I shouldn’t be discriminated against for my race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, income, etc, but that’s kind of a universal/moral/reciprocity thing than entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:18 PM
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Yes, because relationships/sex are supposed to be mutually desired
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:15 PM
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That’s funny, because I’ve been hit on by women many times and it’s not that different And men showing interest in me is not very different from how I show interest in them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:10 PM
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Not necessarily. If everyone thought like OP, there’d be no progress or change of any sort
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:02 PM
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Sure. But basic legal rights n such do exist Perhaps the better sentence is “women want better” or “women expect reciprocity” or something Every change in human society has come because some group thought they deserved better and got it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:58 PM
6

Again, desire is not owed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:56 PM
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Desire is not entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:56 PM
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The world was sexist then and it’s still sexist now You happen to be white, straight, Christian and male, by any chance ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:52 PM
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Romance is celibate? I’ve been doing it all wrong !
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:33 PM
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“Deserve’s got nothing to do with it” But, if men want to be less lonely…..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:29 PM
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I agree. Women don’t deserve better until we stop associating with subpar men And a lot of us are
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:28 PM
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Right here in the comments https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/vDYDfoNzsz https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/QQdp50OhmP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:25 PM
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We’re not privileged. We’re oppressed by gender roles and stereotypes, and that’s why we’re working to eliminate them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:04 PM
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It is. “Swallowing the red pill” is a conscious choice and not easy Of course red pill appeals to the unsuccessful, why else would they believe that society and women are oppressing them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:55 PM
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Yes, that’s being red pilled, or at least gender separatist/sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:33 PM
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Yes, and that’s not being red pilled, that’s just self improvement Being “red pilled” is swallowing all of it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:15 PM
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You can get that advice many other places without the adversarial misogyny/sexism Doing so is a deliberate choice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:01 PM
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Yes, the reason something exists is important
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:41 PM
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If it happens regularly, yup. That demonstrates that they don’t give a shit about what you want, only what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:52 PM
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I don’t appreciate people nagging and guilting me into doing things for their benefit that I don’t want to, and I suspect most people would feel the same
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:43 PM
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That’s not red pill, that’s just regular dating self improvement A red pill advice book would explain that society is “gynocentric” and thus deliberately lies to you about fickle, immature “female nature” (aka hypergamy) for women’s benefit. Thus, righting the unequal scales requires not just improving your body and mind, but also protecting yourself and not being vulnerable, and putting your desires first. The entire purpose of red pill is supporting gender grievance so you can justify becoming…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:40 PM
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Mhm, grudging sex! So wanted!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:32 PM
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Since a lot of men can’t or won’t cook, yes Im always amused at what’s in single men’s fridges and pantries
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:24 PM
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Ah, so you date and cohabit normally, it’s just the initial contact that is only online?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:22 PM
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Unfortunately, I suspect most men would like to have sex and service irl So your advice would not be effective for them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:17 PM
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Red pill doesn’t care what women want, only men This is not a problem, by the way, because they explicitly say that’s the entire point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:16 PM
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If I fuck you on the first date, that means I’ve ruled out a relationship 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:14 PM
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Ok, so you’re gonna have online only relationships/friendships?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:09 PM
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lol, attracting women with your job is beta buxing. Are you sure you’re red pill ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:05 PM
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Sure you can, if you have enough entitlement. Or, better yet, believe that being liked by other people is dumb and useless
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:57 AM
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That’s what getting a woman because she’s economically dependent on you rather than attracted to you is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:55 AM
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Either you want the other person to want sex with you, or you don’t And you clearly don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:00 AM
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Apps are easy. Getting to know someone is hard
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:42 AM
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Strange to hear a red piller extolling beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:37 AM
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Sex is more important than decency or morals, obviously. Or, the purpose of morals/decency is to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:37 AM
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That doesn’t matter when the other party doesn’t care what you want, only what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:09 PM
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So it’s not “different dating styles” or “misreading/miscommunication” that’s the issue, it’s entitlement and selfishness That is why I disagree with your OP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:03 PM
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Of course, I’m not arguing with you. I’m just pointing out that other people have their own agendas and don’t give a shit about yours And that’s why they do what they do. It’s not that they don’t understand, it’s that they don’t care Hope that clears things up for you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:51 PM
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The ones who care aren’t creeps. That’s part of what I mean by “less interested”, ie “less interested in being appealing”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:45 PM
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Because women don’t want sex as much as men do, obviously. And the way to bypass women’s desire is to lie to them, obviously. And also complain. A lot
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:39 PM
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Why do men think romance is less appealing ? Because sex is more appealing, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:53 PM
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It’s easier but people are less interested and appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:52 PM
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Privilege doesn’t cease to exist just because it isn’t employed. Plenty of women don’t exercise theirs but it doesn’t stop men from complaining that they have it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:16 PM
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When you’re cold approaching it’s very low success — that applies to any type of sales
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:14 PM
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It’s a bad thing when you expect ours to be high and then act like we’re oppressing you or something
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:05 PM
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So? If men can claim that they need sexual variety and to spread their seed, it’s valid to point out the biological privilege those desires indicate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:18 PM
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Of course it is — men will pay or do anything to get Iaid. But men know the truth — it’s not sociopathy that makes men attractive, but attractiveness that allows you to be sociopathic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:14 PM
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Nobody wants anything that involves effort/criticism/rejection That is what I’ve learned in life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:43 PM
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Men say so, and I believe them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:41 PM
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Yup. And that proves what really matters to some men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:40 PM
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If men can go on and on about how they need to spread their seed and have variety, I can talk about the biological privilege that results from it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:28 AM
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The real issue is they accept they need to be Chad but are really resentful of it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:28 AM
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If men really thought that women wanted sociopaths, they would be sociopaths, because men will do anything that has even the slightest chance of getting them laid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:20 AM
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Oh, that genghis khan fellow that men love to talk about evidently did. He’s venerated precisely for being a uberrapist and murderer
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:15 AM
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Biologically it is possible and men often invoke it as the motive for their thirst, selfishness and indiscriminacy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:13 AM
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Being nagged or disregarded can render a desired mutual activity undesirable 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:30 AM
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I don’t think women want sexless relationships They want relationships with sex that they want Which tends to be less often than what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:09 AM
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It’s not my thoughts, it’s men’s thoughts, which they freely share with us
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:56 AM
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PSA: lots of people like low expectations, because they’re easier to meet
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:54 AM
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Either you care if people to want to have sex with you, or you don’t 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:53 AM
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OP already assumes sex. The question is how much
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:52 AM
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Women aren’t the ones complaining that the opposite sex is too sensitive and easily offended, and can’t take a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:51 AM
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Biology is not society
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:48 AM
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Because your point is flawed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:13 PM
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They seemed pretty clear about it being biological
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:51 PM
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I’m sure predictions, theories and models have never been wrong. And that there have always been 8 billion humans on this planet, never any less
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:45 PM
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So none, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:22 PM
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Oh, which ones did that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:10 PM
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You’re online, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:09 PM
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Biology isn’t society That’s why female biological privilege is also a lazy argument
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:08 PM
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Those are easily avoided by a paternity test
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:07 PM
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It should be applied, so we can easily see who is selfish and resentful
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:06 PM
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“Women have value! Men are expendable!”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:06 PM
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I’m afraid men I’ve desired have definitely ruined that desire by being selfish, inconsiderate and demanding
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:05 PM
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And a society that doesn’t waste energy oppressing half its members is always going to stomp one that does in the long run. It’s basic efficiency
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:03 PM
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And yet, it’s always cited as some sort of male oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:02 PM
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One man can have thousands and thousands of kids and invest nothing into them at all That’s massive, stupendous biological privilege And also shows why biological privilege is a stupid for metric for both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:00 PM
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One man can have thousands and thousands of kids and invest nothing into them at all That’s massive, stupendous biological privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:00 PM
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One man can have thousands and thousands of kids and invest nothing into them at all That’s massive, stupendous biological privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:59 PM
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And women can’t use sex to defraud and exploit men so we’re equally oppressed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:53 PM
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I didn’t say I agree with OP on that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:50 PM
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Mmmm, because her situation is so normal, that’s why it was news, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:49 PM
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*prioritize the man At least tradcons are upfront about this part, they openly declare that God said men rule over their wives and are supposed to be served and obeyed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:46 PM
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When marriages were arranged and war was common, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:40 PM
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No, I’ve never heard any religious person talk about that. Sex is a portrayed as a passionless obligation by most religions that I’ve encountered
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:29 AM
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Lots of men don’t really like women, period. Even if they are hot
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:26 AM
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That’s how/why many people get into abusive relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:26 AM
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We already know that non-religious men can make us orgasm, I promise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:24 AM
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Men have always paid for looks, it is quite normal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:23 AM
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Successful men continue to have ambition even though they have all the women they want And men are famous for abandoning their families, so much so that the law had to step in, and theyre very unhappy about it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:03 AM
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Yes, voluntary is good
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:17 AM
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I’m afraid I do have orgasms with my partners, and few of them have been religious
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:41 PM
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You can think of it as an access fee
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:40 PM
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It’s irrelevant when no is not respected Like I said, that is harassment, which is unlawful
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:38 PM
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That’s not in the bible or church doctrine, sorry to inform you. Nor is it discussed in the literature or law.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:32 PM
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Why is it coercion? Because they have already demonstrated very clearly that consent isn’t important Harassment is also a crime, did you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:24 PM
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The transaction is usually that they care about their appearance. That is what you are paying for Many, if not most, women are not into a straight up fee for service arrangement
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:19 PM
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How are they hurting them? Is it intentional?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:14 PM
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When you wipe out all the males, the genetic diversity does kinda halve immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:12 PM
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Who are these women hurting besides themselves? Evil also requires intent, ya know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:59 PM
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How do we square this ? Very easily — by knowing that people lie, propaganda/advertising works, and relationships are desired And by assigning blame to the perp, not victims
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:46 PM
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Very easily — people lie and propaganda/advertising works
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:46 PM
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It’s less effort. A dude will always take less effort along with sex Who said anything about guarantees?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:05 PM
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Sex for humans isn’t about reproduction
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:18 PM
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Nope, they just have stuff called money
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:54 PM
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Men don’t care about babies, they care about body use, aka sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:54 PM
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Of course it is Just like the Matrix, the film the concept comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:52 PM
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They’re ideals. And there’s plenty of examples in real life — we call it gold digging
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:51 PM
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That’s why men initiate, wait and pay Everyone knows that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:50 PM
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Nope. Men here are happy to admit that they will take sex when they don’t like the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:48 PM
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And that wasn’t OPs point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:47 PM
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Of course it is. It’s called polygamy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:12 AM
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Men are very good at removing each other from the gene pool, way better than women are. You have heard of war, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:02 AM
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Hypergamy can occur in monogamous societies, lol. That’s what fairy tales are all about
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:01 AM
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Depends on if men stop pumping and dumping and lying about wanting relationships instead of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:05 PM
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If you have to exaggerate and provoke to make your point, maybe it isn’t a very good or well thought out point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:29 PM
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Something only a not poor person would say. I bet slaves were happier not having to think or make decisions too, right ? I love how basic needs are controversial and even detrimental when they apply to the oppressed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:51 PM
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Towards a better life for everyone, obviously. If conservatives had their way, we’d still be uneducated feudalists relying on God to cure our dysentery, burying half our kids before they learned to walk and thanking the king/lord for allowing us to eat. Not to mention stoning the sodomites and enslaving the savages
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:48 PM
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Progressive just means favoring progress; conservative just means favoring conserving/tradition. People can identify as either of those things and not be activists, or even vote
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:56 PM
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Plenty of women want it, some have it, and most don’t get it And it’s been increasing as time goes on Its possible that culture and attitudes can change, because that’s the limiting factor
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:55 PM
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But you already accept that there are different factions of feminism. Feminism will be progressive as long as there is conservative pushback against it. And I am confident there will always be pushback
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:16 PM
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Not at all. Single fathers exist, SAHDs exist, formula exists, maternity and paternity leave exist. Most female doctors, executives and lawyers I know have multiple kids Men are no more incapable of being the primary or equal parent than women are incapable of being primary or equal earners
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:12 PM
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The number of female breadwinners/male caretakers has tripled over the last 15-20 years, so it’s obviously changing But, like I said, culture and tradition
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:06 PM
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This reads as saying mainstream feminism is right wing because to radical, extreme feminism is left wing Uh, no; there’s moderates. It’s not just black or white
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:24 PM
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Simple: the main reason women lag behind men is doing most of the childcare and domestic management. The trends are already there, they’re just not maximized because of culture and tradition
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:50 PM
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I found one, yes, and I’m keeping him in no small part because it’s so rare Lots of people, of all genders, treat their partners worse than their friends, so that’s not saying much
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:20 PM
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Voluntarily, sure. And we are, just not enough for now
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:39 PM
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Who is claiming that it isn’t ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:38 PM
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Love is a feeling. Reciprocity is not charity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:36 PM
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I have only three rules: Enjoy my company Show interest in me, not my body Don’t offend me It is amazing how many men cannot comply with those 3 very basic rules
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:34 PM
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I would live with it. Shaving just means stubble, which is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:33 PM
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*Hypergamy has historically been chosen for women by their fathers and families FTFY By the way, the main reason most men didn’t reproduce isn’t women, it’s men. Who like slaughtering entire populations of men so they can take their women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:32 PM
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Minimizing gender roles, obviously. And economic parity/minimizing poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:30 PM
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I’m not looking for a salesman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:29 PM
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Quality, non-porn sex that we both want
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:28 PM
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Competence, independence, sexual moderation/consideration
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:21 AM
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That is hilarious that a red piller wants a relationship. “She’s not yours; it’s just your turn”, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:02 AM
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The men who whine already know this Because they don’t do the very thing that they claim women like
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:18 PM
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Because biology, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:13 PM
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Yes, men hold the majority of power and wealth in pretty much every society
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:05 PM
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I did not say that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:33 PM
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Nope, that’s the definition
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:27 PM
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It’s not just feminists, it’s everyone. Go look at any post in r/conservative; the majority of comments get removed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:50 PM
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Propaganda is needed when the reality is different
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:48 PM
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The patriarchy is male power and self interest
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:48 PM
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In the manosphere, freedom is slavery and peace is war
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:55 PM
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Yes, and OP doesn’t care That’s your own problem
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:50 PM
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*die to protect their genetic interest, the second most important thing after sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:29 PM
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Men are the opposite of expendable when they’re productive. A man who has money, power and skills is protected from “having his life ruined” as long as others benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:28 PM
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Who is asking them to react? “Lawfully” is the only expectation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:25 PM
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It’s pretty mainstream, ie blue pill, to believe that people are different and not everything is simple
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:24 PM
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The same advice that works for the majority of people
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:19 PM
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I’m afraid that there have always been more female than male prostitutes And that there has always been more male than female demand Nothing has changed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:14 PM
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If it was, men wouldn’t be complaining about women’s rights and wanting to go back to the way it used to be Laws have consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:13 PM
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He obviously thinks casual sex is worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:40 AM
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He doesn’t have to actually be a sociopath, just act like one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:39 AM
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Since his previous strategy was to simply ask for casual sex without being hot, rich or famous/extroverted, he’s not very good at problem solving He’s like the equivalent of the fat single mom who says she’s the prize and should get a rich man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:35 AM
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He’s pretty desperate and messed up, but that’s what happens when you openly pursue casual sex without being hot or wealthy or famous Which is….certainly an interesting choice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:32 AM
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Men complain about it happening all the time. They want sex immediately without dates, like, ya know, “Chad” does
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:30 AM
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You’re recommending this course of action to men so you should care Otherwise, it isn’t “the best” and you’re lying
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:29 AM
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Because he met my low standards and no other man did, and after 5 tries that’s good enough for me I’m happy to hang it up and focus on other things, since I got what I wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:45 AM
8

Perhaps read the title again, hm?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:44 AM
7

Let’s put it this way, I’ve been in a LTR for 5+ years so I’ve already found it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:00 AM
1

It is, but people are more socially inept, avoidant, comfortable and distracted than ever
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:59 AM
10

I believe OP doesn’t actually care about dating problems, he just doesn’t like women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:50 AM
9

Why? You’re just gonna call me a liar, so I’m not gonna play that game
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:49 AM
7

If we shut up like OP wants and nothing else changes, dating problems would remain
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:48 AM
13

Aw, invalidation; a classic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:38 AM
9

So that’s an additional demand, not just “stop complaining”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:40 AM
7

If women stopped complaining but didn’t fuck any differently, men would still be complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:39 AM
1

Doesn’t change what men are complaining about and want us to do
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:38 AM
2

And yet that’s not what they complain about or desire from women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:12 AM
6

He didn’t pump n dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:52 AM
2

Because you’re claiming that only women do these things because men are oppressed ALL laws and rules favor women, remember? You’ve been comparing men to women in all your comments
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:46 AM
2

Oh, so men don’t cheat, lie, divorce, steal or change their mind ? How amazing that other men don’t trust them, let alone women And all laws and contracts only apply to men ? How inefficient for society And women never go to prison, have consequences or pay fines? How amazing, it’s a wonder that men aren’t being brazenly and openly murdered, robbed, assaulted, harassed, etc, especially in the age of smartphones
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:34 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:17 AM
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Nope. Problems don’t go away when you ignore them And we’re not going to ignore our own desires and interests
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:04 AM
2

Yes, so? Doesn’t mean men aren’t complaining, specifically about the very thing you claim they aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:03 AM
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Sure. Doesn’t mean adults are superior And I find most male topics to be rather useless, theoretical and/or self aggrandizing, so they’re not very interesting to me. Grandstanding and pontificating is pretty pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:02 AM
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My bad; I edited https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/MXeaDdA6Sl So, were you lying then or are you lying now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:59 PM
2

Are they the only ones complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:58 PM
3

Getting casual sex honestly is hard mode OP hasn’t even completed the easy mode, which is lying/flaking or getting relationship sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:50 PM
0

No, your post is a denial that complaining, especially from those groups, exists And men/those groups don’t think their standards are too high, which is why they complain in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:46 PM
14

Of course you do because you made this post
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:41 PM
0

So, yes. Please let all men who complain about women being too picky, entitled and demanding know! And also conservatives and traditionalists and religious people
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:40 PM
15

And again, we already know it’s an option and yet lots of men don’t do it, especially as they get older
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:38 PM
7

My last point is the most relevant — most men would love to have casual sex only But they can’t get it often and easily enough, even with lying, so they settle for relationships Your little brainwave isn’t anything new
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:24 PM
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And that’s not what his strategy is, he’s promoting plain old pump and dump and thinking he invented the wheel or something
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:20 PM
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You could just pay a sex worker, since you’re not interested in love or a relationship. Or have a transactional relationship, so feelings aren’t involved Those seem to be the more common strategies Most men aren’t interested in putting in the time and effort to lead someone on for casual sex, but that is also common and I assure you we already know about it Most men can’t just pump and dump often enough to be happy, which is why they get into relationships in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:18 PM
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You said all laws and rules favor women, not just “the ones I’m talking about” Sexual harassment is part of civil and occupational law, and yes, women have been convicted of it Women can be and have been convicted of sexual assault and rape of men Well that will be very interesting if contracts and agreements can’t be used in modern society A woman also can’t change her mind if the man is owed custody, child support and alimony, did you know? What other agreements do women break ? And again, wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:14 PM
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Again, most women aren’t hot enough to do it at the level they could support themselves with sufficient risk mitigation. It’s also a very short window of time you have to make a living
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:16 PM
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You think the laws don’t apply to women? Or protect men? How should the laws and rules be to not favor women ? Do you think we should be allowed and encouraged to say offensive things and stereotype others? Should people not be allowed to change their minds? What agreements are women breaking ? Have you never heard of hobosexuals and men who leech off their women without contributing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:14 PM
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His point is that no one is pressuring people to do things, which is clearly false. Misogyny wouldn’t exist if men weren’t trying to control and pressure women into doing things
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:04 PM
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How is the market “regulated” ? And is there no market for men, really ? Then why are women putting effort into looks? I assure you that women do dumb things for hot men all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:01 PM
1

They don’t want to choose singledom, they want sex and relationships. So how should they be dealt with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:00 PM
5

But isn’t there a male sexlessness/loneliness epidemic? Or are things fine, and men should stop complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:59 PM
1

So it’s men’s fault for not being good enough and complaining about not succeeding?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:58 PM
6

This sub, red pill, the manosphere, the Republican Party, and lots and lots of whiners do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:57 PM
4

They do, by complaining about what we do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:56 PM
0

lol, these men know that prostitution sucks and women don’t want to do it seriously, or at least at the price level that most women would be able to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:36 PM
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Most people do not find navel gazing, conspiracy theories, elitism and victim narratives interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:39 PM
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I do love men putting in effort, because that means they actually like me or find me interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:33 PM
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Did you know that inhibitions are not the same as passivity?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:23 PM
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Society loves, praises and rewards men and masculinity, and will do anything to excuse them from having their lives “ruined” by their own decisions and actions — as long as they’re of the right group
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:17 PM
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If you’d seen any of his past deleted accounts you’d know why — they’re full of conspiracy theories and antivax rants That’s how I know this new account is his
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:10 PM
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Men know why women are considered wonderful. They just think that shouldn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:09 PM
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Nope, they also encouraged men to socialize and make friends and connections and participate in communities
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:07 PM
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Yes they are, by complaining that women are shallow, have inflated opinions of themselves, are brainwashed by social media, only like Chad, are too picky, are too demanding, are entitled, have too many rights and freedoms and should have them taken away, will cause men to burn down society, won’t have enough babies and families, etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:06 PM
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Op has admitted that he doesn’t talk to women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:04 PM
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That is frankly the only place it matters, as the law is the authority of the land
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:03 PM
1

He is the single most powerful man in the world, and was given that position by the majority of eligible, interested people, who heard him say all that and much, much more
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:02 PM
1

Those aren’t things that women say they want in a man, hmmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:00 PM
3

I didn’t make a judgement about anything, I just read your words And suggested something to fix the issue that’s making you desperate as presented Virginity is about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:39 PM
3

Because you’re focused on sex, obviously You don’t say “I’ve never been in love” or “I’ve never had a relationship”, you say “I’ve never had sex”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:28 PM
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‘I don't see how pursuing a lean muscular body is "imperilling your well being"’ https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/cu87jCHIoz
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:38 PM
3

Because your virginity is making you unhappy and desperate, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:34 PM
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You mentioned an ideal (lean muscular body) not improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:33 PM
2

To get experience? I don’t think so
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:32 PM
1

We are equal, under the law. That’s not saying we are identical
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:29 PM
2

“You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it…Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." The leader of the free world, by popular choice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:28 PM
2

Are women telling men they shouldn’t be successful, confident, dominant, active, and strong? Are CEOs, leaders, celebrities, athletes and entertainers weak, shy and timid ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:26 PM
2

And we’re not talking about that level of disparity, are we? We’re talking about the difference between zero and 1
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:22 PM
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The difference between humans and animals is very important; adding on another animal is pretty pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:21 PM
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An improvement doesn’t mean you will fit an ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:20 PM
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I find women very interesting, with lots of practical information about people, institutions and social events and goings on Men, on the other hand, love to brag, exaggerate and hear themselves talk about things that do not help anyone or matter, like politics or philosophy, for example. And sports, gods, so much agonizing about imaginary rules and the hamstrings of strangers At least now sports involves betting money, so there is actually reason to care I suspect you do not have many friends or…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:14 PM
2

Who is claiming they are ? The simplicity is what makes it unenjoyable, in fact, as well as the continuousness and cumulative load
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:04 PM
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Got nothing to contribute, I see
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:02 PM
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And guess what? You don’t need to tell them, just like people of all genders don’t have to disclose their n counts, abusive relationships, cured infections, estranged relatives, failed businesses, and the time they wet themselves in 2nd grade
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:59 PM
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Some people just aren’t that way, due to frame or metabolism I also don’t think all the celebrities and normal people I meet who are on ozempic look good either
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:57 PM
4

Just go see a sex worker so you can stop being upset about that part, and free up your brain for better things
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:15 AM
1

We’re not birds or seahorses or groupers, did you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:12 AM
1

Guess men are simple unable to pull their weight around the house unless gay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:11 AM
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Mowing the lawn isn’t hard, that was the job given to us kids. Especially when there were riding mowers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:11 AM
1

Gender roles and traditionalism are all about that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:09 AM
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Gender roles and traditionalism And conservatives and family
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:08 AM
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Aggression, ambition, action, strength, dominance, competitiveness, independence, winning, pride, and material accumulation/validation are all celebrated and rewarded in society, and always have been, with money, status, prizes, fame, admiration, influence and power
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:03 AM
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Whatever is healthy for their individual bodies of course You shouldnt be imperiling your well being
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:00 AM
3

It’s because men are bigger, stronger and hornier than women, same as with neurotypicals
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:09 AM
2

No
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:03 AM
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Men of all races are more conservative than their female counterparts, and none more so than black Americans in this past election.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:31 AM
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Most young men are conservative, most young women are progressive, and most people aren’t attractive. Mind the gap
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:03 AM
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Yes. Most men are conservative, most women are progressive. Mind the gap
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:02 AM
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If it didn’t matter, people wouldn’t be complaining about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:40 AM
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Average men can be sexist, lazy, immature, unmotivated, misogynist, bigoted, etc. Most men voted for Trump, after all, especially the younger ones
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:28 AM
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If that were true, political views wouldn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:23 AM
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Are you asking me if I wish misogynists weren’t misogynists? Obviously yes, but that’s kind of a rhetorical question With all the information out there, opinions are pretty much informed and deliberate, and based on values and character For example, men know that average men get into relationships but choose to believe that only 5% of them do, because that’s what their values and character motivates them to believe Me arguing with them is pointless, because they have already decided based on a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:18 AM
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Nope, he can go for easier women, and more of them. Works all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:38 PM
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Nope, they’re voluntary, cheap and are useful
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:02 PM
4

Or, we can just wait to make sure the man actually wants us 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:00 PM
2

Again, men don’t care about personality. They care about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:49 PM
1

Why don’t you call out misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:45 PM
3

I assure you that scarcity and playing hard to get predate the red pill by thousands of years
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:44 PM
3

Men don’t just want someone attractive; they also want “femininity”, aka submission, service, deference, and sacrifice Unfortunately, we are no longer a slave society, it’s inefficient
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:05 PM
3

Either people like sex in relationships or they don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:02 PM
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Or, men are lazy users 🤷‍♀️ Especially if, as you claim, most men don’t like most women. And women not liking being submissive cheerleader mommy bangmaids is neither surprising nor uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:01 PM
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Way more men like sex than women, let alone an individual woman. That is why they have to prove they like an individual woman through effort Otherwise women are likely to be sexual objects and placeholders
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:27 PM
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I am average/unremarkable and date average/unremarkable men. They are the most common type of man Yes, there aren’t many real life anime waifus, I agree with you there. So, most men don’t like women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:25 PM
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So that means women can’t be cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:16 PM
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Only if you consider sex and relationships totally separate and unrelated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:15 PM
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Logically it’s equal, because women are the limiting factor. If women wanted to cheat all day, every day, they could, because men would always be willing. The problem for men is that women are not very willing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:13 PM
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Good thing most of us don’t care about that You think the more violent and impulsive gender that blames its genitals for making dumb decisions is going to be better at making and raising babies? Just lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:07 PM
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Nope I don’t pursue chads, because I want relationships And even normal dudes don’t like women all that much, they like sex and putting in as little effort as possible A person who actually likes you is rare, because we’re all different, especially if you’re not hot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:56 PM
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I don’t listen to women who prioritize men over women. Men have been prioritized through almost all of human history, and that has been bad for women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:50 PM
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“I love sex, rarely get it and have to put in effort to be considered for it, but I’m gonna turn you down because I’m not looking for a relationship” — no man ever
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:48 PM
2

Neither did I, hooray!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:40 PM
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Your lives, sure. But why should I prioritize you over myself ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:36 PM
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Not “being yourself” is putting on a fake persona by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:28 PM
2

Even men not on here will take a fuck if it falls into their lap
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:22 PM
3

Also makes logical sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:19 PM
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No, they already know what society and women want and they don’t care Red pill, for example, is upfront about being completely self interested, antagonistic, and hostile to society and women Echo chambers breed extremism and isolation, and it’s good to not let it go unchallenged when possible
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:14 PM
1

Planning, spending money and interacting are all more effort than not PPBing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:11 PM
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Most people do not want to be a grateful servant, so that’s why your standards are not very attractive to women. The pay has to be high for anyone who’s not an immigrant to put up with that job description, especially when so many better options exist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:04 PM
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If that were so, Ashely Madison’s gender ratio would have been flipped, men would be rushing to get married, the divorce rate would be even higher, and married men would never complain about dead bedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:02 PM
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Of course it isn’t. Otherwise they will go around whining about having to put in effort, not being themselves, lying, faking, and how shallow women are Most logical adults who have any awareness already know that “be yourself” means don’t try on a fake persona or do things you really don’t want to and will resent later
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:57 PM
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I don’t expect good faith to come from self interest and bad faith You were interested in working things out, the men here are interested in winning or not changing anything. I just like to call out misogyny/sexism when I see it so they know it’s still not acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:54 PM
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Nope, that results in being used for sex and less effort in relationships Source: personal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:51 PM
3

Training wheels provided by mommy to a lazy grown man who is behind all his peers and doesn’t give a shit 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:43 PM
2

So? You still have to prove the threat, assuming you’re successful
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:06 AM
3

The change isn’t us doing all the work
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:05 AM
1

That requires effort, and you ignored the money issue. Why is that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:04 AM
4

So? We’re not the only ones that live here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:02 AM
2

Again, at that range women have a severe disadvantage in reach and strength
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:36 AM
1

That knowledge is entirely mainstream, I promise you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:18 AM
7

Why? What’s our motivation ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:40 AM
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The only justified use of deadly force is threat to life, so we could only get off the hook in a few cases. Plus, yanno, the type of threat men pose to us is basically within the distance that guns become useless, ie, within 10 feet
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:05 AM
2

Fame/notoriety is status, so it is consistent with hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:51 AM
4

Because a mantoddler who needs stickers, spoonfeeding and charts for basic tasks is very, very unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:46 AM
1

To paraphrase Office Space, “why should I have to kill people and go to prison when people are the ones who suck? They’re the ones that should go to prison”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:43 AM
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Yes and I have in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:42 AM
2

If that were so, the majority of men wouldn’t be fucking, dating or marrying, but they are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:12 AM
1

Does it have to work for everyone? What about a majority ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:10 AM
2

How do you plan to get a relationship if you don’t talk to people in real life and have mental issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:09 AM
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If that were so, casual sex would be more common than dating. Plenty of men find women likable. Women just aren’t interested, or find them unlikable
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:20 PM
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Why is online or with strangers the only way you can have those settings?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:12 PM
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Maybe if you’re negotiating prices or drugs it’s plausible to not talk, but I’m pretty sure sex requires communication. Otherwise, yanno, you run the risk of offending Lots of men actually want intimacy and relationships, so no, it’s not terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:08 PM
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That dude two comments up thinks so
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:05 PM
1

I fail to see how you can do anything but be a sex tourist (which I believe is a subset of PPB but still) on a tourist visa Maybe a sex tour to Mexico is cheap, but most others are thousands of dollars, and in this economy, well….maybe you are rich, but my guess is that the majority of aspiring PPBs are not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:03 PM
1

Depends on how you do it irl
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:00 PM
3

Being yourself, being discerning and putting your best self forward are very mainstream strategies
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:54 PM
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When half of people meet offline, no, it’s not an outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:53 PM
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It’s not at all. If you don’t talk to anyone, you’re not going to fuck anyone either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:52 PM
3

Moving abroad requires effort and is improvement of circumstances/money, if not improvement of the person Sure, it’s transactional but so is improving your looks or finances
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:27 PM
8

Doing nothing is not mainstream advice. Even decentering involves some sort of effort
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:22 PM
9

Blue pill is simply not red pill The just world fallacy is its own thing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:21 PM
4

“I don’t like what you say/I have no rebuttal so you’re lying” is bad faith discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:20 PM
6

Blue pill is simply not red pill, and that is mainstream advice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:19 PM
1

That is extremely mainstream advice — adapt, optimize, be social, work at it, stand out, persist, have reasonable expectations Those are effective and common strategies in business/work as well as relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:16 PM
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Maturation, what a concept
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:15 PM
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I’ve only dated men I already met, so it’s very logical advice I’d be a hypocrite if I advised otherwise, wouldn’t I ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:06 PM
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I find it hilarious that men think the majority of women are hot, young, judgy, crazy extroverts, ie, that TikTok is real life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:04 PM
5

Reads as appealing to a higher power to intervene and take the effort/responsibility out of their hands
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:01 PM
6

I stopped being a sour, mean introvert and put effort into my appearance, aka giving a shit about what people thought Alakazam! Normalcy! Whodathunkit?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:59 PM
2

Unfortunately needs become problematic when they involve other people instead of inanimate objects
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:58 PM
12

Uh, since it’s been 50 years, it appears to be working fine I don’t see how choosing can be optimized, nor why it should be optimized, since everyone is responsible for their own fulfillment in a free society
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:55 PM
2

Yet another thing everyone knows
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:38 PM
1

Yeah, and you can get that same information with a few minutes of conversation. Let’s also not forget the sheer volume of garbage being thrown at people on dating apps, so much so that women often quit using the app entirely The gender ratio on apps is skewed 2:1 at minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:56 PM
6

That’s pretty much all you can get from a photo. You can’t get an irl convo, vibe, presentation, humor, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:04 AM
9

So ? It’s still easier to bring factors other than looks into play, which is what irl dating does
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:57 AM
2

No one says that. They just say it’s easier
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 04:54 AM
3

Sounds like regular old women to me. Are women more homophobic than previously then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:54 AM
3

Ok. And that’s a feminist stance?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:42 AM
3

I know what happens now, I just don’t think it’s any different. What used to happen that was different?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:27 AM
0

So what used to happen, because that doesn’t sound any different than what I remember We must have different algorithms, cuz I don’t see any of that “sassy” meme. Then again, I don’t go on X or Insta or TikTok
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:00 AM
3

I don’t see any of that, just the same old “women suck, that’s why they won’t date me” Except since the pandemic the “you owe us/ we’ll oppress you” crowd has become more numerous, unsurprisingly Imo the greater change has been in women, specifically women realizing that most men don’t like or are indifferent to them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:50 AM
9

They all boil down to the same principle— men are easy. Don’t make it easy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:36 AM
2

Nope Men lie about it because women won’t fuck them casually
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:11 PM
6

Nope, otherwise women wouldn’t be complaining about men who are lying about wanting relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:39 PM
3

Great, then you guys will tell us you don’t want relationships, riiiiiight?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:25 PM
2

Heresy! Stone the unbeliever!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:13 PM
1

That is the only reason I would tell someone that. And it’s not gender specific
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:31 PM
6

You yourself said that sex without emotional attachment is better And sex not in a committed relationship isn’t women’s goal. We can get that just fine from all the men who think it’s preferable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:27 PM
3

And I mostly see women complaining about pushy creeps, misogynist conservatives, and flakey Tinder bros
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:24 PM
0

Yup, it’s good pushback against the dominant cultural ideal of a faceless sacrificial mommy servant
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:23 PM
1

It’s not, because selfish, self centered impersonal desperation is unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:44 PM
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They all boil down to the same thing — if the man isn’t interested, he’s not going to try And you don’t want to date a man who isn’t interested and won’t try
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:43 PM
7

People want to be social with dudes. Dudes don’t want to be social, they want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:34 PM
12

Sex isn’t a romantic relationship You must think women are dumb or something
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:33 PM
13

It’s very logical — we don’t want to be a living jerk off
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:40 PM
6

And yet, women keep complaining about being fuckzoned and men keep complaining about getting friendzoned
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:40 PM
3

Yeah, but you guys keep lying about it. I know women would prefer the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:39 PM
1

We’re not looking for men such as you who see everything as porn/about them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:16 PM
4

Men: We’ll take anything! We’re desperate and have no standards! Also men: Why don’t women prize our dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:15 PM
1

Yup! They can always backtrack later and play dumb if they get desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:12 PM
1

Hashtag notallmen And we want those Yes, we know they’re a minority
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:08 PM
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They know, that’s why the reasoning is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:19 PM
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Does a doctor have to have had cancer to tell people how to treat cancer? Are only dead people allowed to discuss death ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:08 AM
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No, we don’t need to because there’s no money or obligations involved
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:42 AM
4

Yes, and there’s nothing wrong with that. Being more discerning comes with more disappointment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:40 AM
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Yes they are, that’s why they settle and then complain No woman has to date to get sex. Or even leave her house
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:14 PM
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Sure. Doesn’t mean that women aren’t putting up with things because they are desperate for a relationship If women were sexually satisfied, we wouldn’t be complaining about the opposite. Nor would men be complaining about being dead bedroomed, the most horrible thing that could happen to a man in a relationship after cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:01 PM
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Of course they are. That’s why many (the majority of?) women end up in relationships where they do most of the non-money-related work and are hilariously defensive and touchy about it. And why they initiate divorce twice as often as men Yes, women want sex less than men. That’s why we behave differently and prioritize different things
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:34 PM
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I think she’s worse, since she believes something with no evidence. At least he has evidence that she cares; she does not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:13 PM
1

It sure does
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:12 PM
4

Only if they’re not fucking The reason we think men should be fucking is because they say they want to fuck, ask women to fuck, watch fucking on screens, pay for fucking, and complain that women aren’t fucking them enough, even though women who fuck are whores and sluts with no morals 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:07 PM
2

Women are desperate for respect, non sexual interest in our person, and competency. So much so that the majority of women get into relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:06 PM
2

They debate precisely because they don’t intend to do any work
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:04 PM
4

Perhaps a little less generalizing and a little more reasoning would clarify things for you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:03 PM
1

But you want to fuck while doing other stuff Because he “can’t stop”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:46 PM
0

There’s women for the streets and women for the sheets, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:39 PM
5

And yet lack of effort, care and interest is a common complaint of women in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:39 PM
6

Him or the woman? They both sound desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:38 PM
6

“Genuinely can’t stop being horny around you” “Likes spending time with you without fucking” Pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:37 PM
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Whaaaaaaat? I thought all women got worshipped and valued and treated like privileged, precious queens by everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:36 PM
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It’s called entitlement/lack of empathy Aka “they should be just like me, not like another person”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:35 PM
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That’s what I see in poor countries with little infrastructure — street kids, begging, harassment, and “alternate power structures”, ie gangs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:00 PM
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We’re not asexual We’re just not men, who prioritize sex and sexual attraction above all else, even relationships And there is nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:33 PM
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None of it matters unless the woman is minimally attractive No one cared who I dated when I wasn’t attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:32 PM
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Because they claim to be humane, care and not predators/opportunists/oppressors And also they want sex from us
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:31 PM
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*when they can’t get the pussy and service they want
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:25 PM
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Yup. And there’d be way more poverty and street kids and gangs Weirdly, every developed country prefers not to have those things. I wonder if that’s a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:33 AM
1

To men Not to women Which is exactly what I said in my first comment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:17 AM
2

Where did I contradict myself ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:35 AM
2

Nowhere near as often or as much as women do
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:09 AM
5

So? Still the most important thing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:07 AM
1

30s are great because you’re not broke but not tied down
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:35 PM
1

Guess who one of the biggest opponents of draft equality is? Hint: not liberal/progressives
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:34 PM
5

If that were so, men wouldn’t bother getting jobs or educations but plastic surgery and steroids
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:33 PM
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“Men built society/civilzation”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:12 PM
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That’s up to you, because you’re the ones who care about physical desire more than anything else Pro tip: women do not care about physical desire more than anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:11 PM
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If we were, men wouldn’t be complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:46 PM
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They aren’t looking for elucidation but validation, so trust is irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:31 AM
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Single is not sexless or dateless Obviously incels are incels regardless of gender
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 09:32 PM
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If it wasn’t true there’d be way more single moms. Women are poorer after divorce, so it’s pretty bad that they’re filing 70% of the time The social pressure is to stay married. Families say it, churches say it, society says it — broken homes! Think of the children! If raising kids was equally stressful for the genders, divorce initiation would be 50-50, not 70-30
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:37 PM
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Men have a good reason to be mad at women: they want sex from us and we won’t give it to them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:09 PM
3

Such a mystery why people refuse to answer a common and logical question!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:48 PM
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Men are perfectly capable of understanding what it’s like dealing with men, sexually All you have to do is discuss what prison is like with them. They know
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:28 PM
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Entitlement is a helluva drug
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:27 PM
2

Men tell us. They love talking about themselves and what they think, want and do, just like you are now While showing little to no respect for/interest in women’s friendship, desires, opinions, education, jobs, interests, achievements, products, experiences and hobbies Again, you guys communicate very clearly what you think of us and what you want from us. It is absolutely no mystery
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:36 PM
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History, crime, war, religion, gender roles and most of the world population can answer that question for you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:33 PM
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Again, if that were so, men wouldn’t be so confused and asking for advice. They just simply don’t get why women don’t like dick pics, lewd comments, sexism, indifference, bigotry, conservatism, laziness, porn and porn sex, video games, slovenliness, poverty, harassment, cheating, etc, and are always complaining that women make no sense and breakups come “out of nowhere”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:30 PM
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It makes you stay with the man, obviously. Because money and social pressures Everyone knows this. That’s why marital satisfaction goes down and divorces go up after the kids come into the picture
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:26 PM
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These are common complaints of women. You are free to ignore them if you like the way things are going now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:19 PM
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A couple These are common complaints of women. Men can ignore them if they are fine with the way things are
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:19 PM
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It is very easy to understand men, since we are all human, and because men communicate their thoughts and desires freely. It is also very easy to understand men’s struggles, because everyone knows that women are nowhere near as thirsty as men, due to men’s words and actions Women just won’t do what men want, which is fuck them, because we don’t want to. Unfortunately, women are not empathetic to men trying to make us do things we don’t want to, and hating us because we won’t do things we don’t w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:05 PM
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Since the vast majority of people are heterosexual and polyamory/open relationships are rare, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:03 PM
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Yes. And male dominated hobbies are an isolating and usually dysfunctional way of socializing with the general population
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:03 PM
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Women don’t need to try Men communicate their desires and thoughts very clearly with their words and actions, or lack thereof
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:02 PM
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Feels over reals!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:58 PM
3

Way more men complain about single moms than consider dating them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:58 PM
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If men understood women, they wouldn’t be asking for advice and calling them mysterious, nor doing so poorly with them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:01 AM
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So? Still an inconvenience and effort, unless you plan on not caring for or interacting with your kid at all By the way, you do know that back in the day mortality was extremely high and literacy very low ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:39 AM
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Oh, so a study showing higher aversion to risk than men proves that women are less responsible? Just lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:38 AM
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Oh, so it’s hard and requires effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:35 AM
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What is stated without evidence can be dismissed without evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:33 AM
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If you’re going to make a scientific claim, provide the science Feels aren’t better than reals
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:32 AM
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What percent of women is that, now ? Also, resentment is not hatred. Words have meaning. So why is it resentment in your example and hatred in your title ? Seems pretty sloppy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:30 AM
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When half of young men have never asked a woman out, yes, we can say that When men won’t commit or put a label on it, yes, we can say that When men refuse to socialize and talk to people and have no friends, yes, we can say that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:29 AM
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If it’s so easy, you do it. Alone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:26 AM
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Which is not altruism/selflessness Neither is a reward
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:13 AM
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And that wasn’t the point of your OP Good is good, not “not bad”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:12 AM
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Biology
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:09 AM
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It’s not. It’s driven by female choice and autonomy. That is the single most threatening thing to men Men can’t control women through violence, laws or money anymore, so kids are the last leverage they have. That’s why they often describe children and parenting as a consequence/punishment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:38 AM
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Nope, lack of commitment, lack of effort/care, general disinterest in women and our concerns and oversexualization are very common complaints of women regarding men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:16 AM
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No, it’s not. Single moms are just moms who are not married. They can be divorced, widowed, separated — or never married
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:14 AM
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Relevance required
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:13 AM
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Most people who date do it within their league The vast majority of men fuck, date and marry
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:13 AM
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Nope. Opportunists like opportunity. And the love and responsibility women feel for their children is an opportunity for male leverage second to none
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:12 PM
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Plenty of men relax one the woman is handcuffed to a baby. It makes crappy behavior that much more difficult to punish once you’re that severely disadvantaged I’ve seen it a ton of times — the baby is a handgrenade for equality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:10 PM
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People like to let their shit flags fly after things get tough or committed Happened to me with signing a lease more than once; I can only imagine how much more likely it is when you’re stuck parenting for 18 years
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:09 PM
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Plenty of women stay in shitty relationships because they’re either mercenaries or cowards, you don’t have to worry about that Just don’t be a wifebeater, or worse, broke, and your odds are pretty good
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:05 PM
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Considering that one of the biggest complaints of women is men acting like they don’t have to do anything domestic in a relationship, just like their dads and grandads did, there’s plenty of room for improvement Being treated like a 1950’s bangmaid was why I ended all but one of my relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:04 PM
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Oh, you mean being dependent and prudish? Yes, we’ve already largely done away with that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:02 PM
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Or, maybe even not idealizing and desiring them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:01 PM
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Because it’s better than modeling a shitty relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:00 PM
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Red pill explicitly says it doesn’t care about morals at all, just what is expedient. Lawfulness is generally but not always more expedient
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:17 PM
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If that were so, men would be able to influence women more even without money Women no longer being dependents merely removed the most important factor in dating and marriage — money
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:15 PM
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Men do just fine hating women while liking their bodies; I’m sure women could do the same Men love our bodies and hate our rights, opinions, desires, thoughts and interests, so it’s totally possible
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:12 PM
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OnlyFans is rarely sex, did you know ? You’re going to be sorely disappointed if you assume that it is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:04 PM
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Nope, the average age of first marriage has been slowly increasing for decades
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:03 PM
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Nope, liking use of my body not liking me. If I didn’t want you to use my body, you’d still want to, so that’s not liking me No matter how many times men try to gaslight us otherwise, women know that liking using our bodies is not liking us as humans. Liking using our bodies actually makes men like our pesky humanity and brains less, in fact. Because those things are an obstacle to body use
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:02 PM
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I didn’t claim that only Gen Z advice was valid, so I don’t need to provide any
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:53 PM
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Citation needed. Every indicator is that sex is down
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:39 AM
1

So if you’ve changed everything, what advice from Gen Z has helped you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:58 AM
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People would have the same opinion if it was a parent and child, friends, an elderly or disabled person — if strangers give more of a shit than you, you’re not going to look good
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:56 AM
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Women are valued for what they provide — pussy, service and nurturing — all of which they are expected to provide in a relationship, whether romantic or platonic Men get sympathy all the time, especially if it’s because of some evil, cruel, greedy, lying bitch. We certainly can’t have a man’s life ruined by that! Women have an equally bitter pill to swallow — most men don’t like you, only what you provide to them, particularly sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:42 AM
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If you show you don’t care about the people you know even less so than strangers, people will have an opinion on that This would apply to parents, children, friends, colleagues, neighbors, etc, not just romantic partners
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:22 AM
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I don’t think so. Women seem as relationship focused as ever, and in a lot of shitty ones because (drum roll) they don’t want to be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:20 AM
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Plenty of women actually do want protection/aggresion/manhandling, and say so openly. That’s where all the height obsession comes from too And having a man around makes a drastic difference in how men treat you as opposed to when you’re alone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:40 AM
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We don’t, it just makes it easier, more enjoyable and mutual Things that you apparently don’t care about
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:18 PM
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Nope, that’s normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:35 PM
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Receipts needed Anecdotes and feels are not data
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:57 PM
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If that many women were watching porn, both men and women wouldn’t be complaining so much about porn or restrictions on it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:55 PM
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Like I said, men who care that their partner enjoys sex will, and that’s who we’ll fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:53 PM
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Is that a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:51 PM
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That is obvious, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:51 PM
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Not nearly as many as men Most of us don’t care as long as it doesn’t affect our sex life or morals
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:49 PM
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Yup. Plenty of men, the ones who care, for example, say that turns them on If you don’t care if I get off, I’m not gonna fuck you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:12 PM
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And what is Gen Z’s amazing, effective, totally novel dating advice ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:04 PM
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Sex toys are for us. Porn is for you only Assuming that you give a fuck whether we get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:03 PM
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Because you’re not purchasing sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:16 PM
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I thought you wanted us to “give men a chance” and “not be so picky”? Also, is online and irl exactly the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:15 PM
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It isn’t, but as thinking entities people do judge reasoning. Especially if you yourself are complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:00 PM
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Opportunism and self interest is not necessarily pragmatic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:54 AM
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I think he would say it can exist for others, just not him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:05 AM
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Are most women blue pill ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:08 AM
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The solution is accepting that that’s why we’re not going to fuck like men, along with not being as horny generally, and also being condemned for having any sex at all
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:15 AM
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No one knows the thoughts in your head unless you voluntarily divulge them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:58 PM
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I am treated with polite indifference by the vast majority of people and do not find it oppressive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:19 PM
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Why should we have sex we don’t want ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:18 PM
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It’s not offensive, just very simplistic and thus incorrect and low effort
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:10 PM
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Well, you seem puzzled by why other people don’t fuck you, so considering their points of view might be helpful Just a thought!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:08 PM
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Then you will continue to be mystified by human behavior, and why you are alone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:36 PM
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Of course it is. I was a dumbass in my teens and early 20s, and any man over 30 that pursued me would have been a predator
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:34 PM
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If people were as transactional and selfish as you seem to think we are, this planet would have become a blackened cinder a few generations ago
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:33 PM
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Plenty of men here seriously think women would do the equivalent of that to them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:31 PM
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No, he just said he really is this transactional in another comment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:31 PM
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Yeah, we know. Do you think most people are like you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:30 PM
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Coworkers
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:28 PM
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If that were so, men would be getting plastic surgery, gains, lifts, etc, as often as women do, at minimum, and not caring about money, power and fame
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:28 PM
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It’s not. Men here see themselves as mentally impaired people being taken advantage of by evil predator women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:25 PM
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If I’m not with guy Y there’s no reason to have his baby, especially if he’s not doing anything to help
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:23 PM
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Says a lot about you that you would say this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:14 PM
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I wouldn’t want it done to me/have morals, and I’m not obsessed with babies, legacy or my genes, so no Rapists think everyone rapes, criminals think that morals are fake, the lazy think that nobody wants to work, and fraudsters think everyone lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:13 PM
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Yeah, everyone knows what a transactional relationship is Then why are you complaining about having to try a lot of doors, most of which lead to rooms that are already occupied ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:11 PM
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And the world consists of people other than yourself. Billions, in fact
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:45 PM
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And how do you manifest lust out of thin air?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:45 PM
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We don’t need the obvious explained to us. Men are also constantly complaining about how horny they are
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:44 PM
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Yes, and is that behavior liked by most of Indian society, especially the vast majority that is poor, uneducated and traditional?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:12 PM
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Why shouldn’t personality matter if this person is expected to spend a lot of time with you and care about you ? Why does every door have to result in a click ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:55 PM
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Why should we, when you’ll bounce right after getting sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:53 PM
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Why should we suddenly become horndogs when we don’t feel like it? Why don’t men curb their thirsting, gooning, whoremongering and perving for equality ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:50 PM
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What counter? I didn’t read any counter
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:50 PM
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It means that sex is less of an incentive to women than men, obviously. Especially with men, who make them orgasm significantly less than gay women So what if you don’t slut shame? You’re not what most women experience Do you expect women to perve on you and harass you the way men do to women ? If so, why ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:49 PM
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Receipts needed for your rubbish claim then https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/pere.12577 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257787964_Who_are_People_Willing_to_Date_Ethnic_and_Gender_Patterns_in_Online_Dating https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11129-010-9088-6 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-024-01450-9
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:18 PM
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You’re not from the US. I assume you’re from a conservative, religious country then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:53 PM
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How thirsty and horny are women compared to men, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:52 PM
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Why should it be easy to get sex from women? Especially considering the orgasm gap and slut shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:41 PM
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Why should we be as thirsty as you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:40 PM
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The vast majority of men fuck, date and marry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:40 PM
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Why should we? Your thirst, indiscriminacy and focus on sex and looks is your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:38 PM
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Even accounting for racism, the US is still a majority white country, and most people still date within their ethnicity
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:36 PM
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Men are always up for sex. Otherwise women wouldn’t be bombarded by thirst or complain about ghosting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:29 PM
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Who said you have to simp for a month ? Just stop leading with your dick and think about how you’re coming off
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:17 PM
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Exactly. So why should finding a minority of a minority be easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:16 PM
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Why would there be plenty of good pretty women — who aren’t already in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:36 PM
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That would involve simping, ie, actually caring what a woman thinks and deferring to her desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:16 PM
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This is basic knowledge that any minimally aware person knows
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:14 PM
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Sure. And don’t forget to blame women for giving you a chance while not thinking this. It’s very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:13 PM
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Most women read romance novels. Those are by far the best selling “porn” for women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:55 PM
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Nope. Most women are in relationships, and most women are not indiscriminate horn dogs Finding an available person you’re attracted to who you can stand to be around for 1 year, let alone 40-50 years, is never easy. Way more men have ruined their chances with their words and actions than their faces and bodies Even gay men have trouble finding lasting relationships, perhaps even more than straight people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:52 PM
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It should. Most women are in relationships, most women will not be attracted to you, and most single women who are attracted to you will not be open for immediate, risky sex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:50 PM
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That’s why it’s super easy to know when a woman is open to you —- they don’t put up a shield. That is exactly what I do, and pretty much every man got the message immediately. Newsflash — few women are single, few of those will be open to you, and even fewer will be open to immediate sex. That’s not a bug, that’s a feature of female sexuality We’re not indiscriminate horndogs, and we don’t need to be
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:45 PM
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Simple: my club and the men in it weren’t like that. They actually liked the activity we were there to do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:42 PM
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I asked if the guy wanted to hang out alone several times. Once I asked to go out to a movie
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:47 AM
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You do know that people lie and make things up on any site, right? The story could be true. It’s still just an anecdote/singular experience
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:19 AM
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School Club/interest Work Work Professional organization
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:17 AM
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Subjective things, alas, are subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:15 AM
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Most people would beg to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:05 PM
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It’s not just red pill, otherwise it wouldn’t be an issue Men just don’t like socializing in general
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:38 PM
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And, again, yours is a minority view
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:37 PM
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I thought you had family and a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:44 PM
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