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masterplan2020/r/seduction09/01/15 06:27 AM
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:)
/r/seduction22/01/16 12:37 AM
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If you believe that, it says more about you than anything I've said.
/r/seduction21/01/16 10:49 AM
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Wait. How did we go from "bye"/lack of reaction to "just another one of those people with vaginas that i want to fuck"?
/r/seduction21/01/16 09:25 AM
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How is it passive aggressive? If someone rejects you, in one way or another, you tell them bye. I shared one of the simplest ways(just tell them "bye"). After a girl rejects you and you've moved on, what's the next thing you should focus on? Approaching the next girl(assuming you are out gaming).
/r/seduction20/01/16 10:38 PM
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To the girl: nothing or simple "bye" To yourself: "where's the next cute girl?"
/r/seduction20/01/16 08:04 AM
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How is your behavior with them? I have girls who are sad I dont want to date them but none have told me they feel used. This is despite the fact that I am looking for a relationship with the right girl. When I have a relationship frame, I tend to invest a lot more. People might argue that is bad but that is not the topic of debate. Let's just say it's worked wonders for me. To give you an example, if I feel after a few dates that I might have met a girl I want to date, I will usually surprise th…
/r/seduction13/01/16 08:43 PM
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It is anything but a terrible idea! Show intent by stating it.
/r/seduction13/01/16 08:37 PM
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The basic advice is really good and something that I've been doing for a few years with great success. However, I don't understand why the author chooses to focus on the number at all or why he calls it a "soft close"??? This is how my typical day game close looks like: Me: So here's the deal. I wanna go on a date with you. Girl: We can think about it || You can have my number Me: I could have your number but I know you're busy and I am busy so let's skip the whole scheduling something via text …
/r/seduction13/01/16 08:22 PM
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/r/seduction13/01/16 12:37 AM
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you: "I make sure those iphone apps on your phone don't blow up and work like they should" girl: "ELABORATE!"
/r/seduction13/01/16 12:11 AM
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Couldn't disagree more with people saying "she doesn't want you." It could just as easily mean "I dont want to say something that makes you want me less." On the whole, doesn't mean much. Her behaviors are a better sign of what she wants than her words, esp on topics like this.
/r/seduction13/01/16 12:09 AM
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Keep texting each other after the first date. Then one day when you're having fun texting back and forth and you have some idea abt her day, suggest hanging out.
/r/seduction06/04/15 08:18 PM
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It is creepy if your vibe is overtly friendly and your prior conversations did not involve some light chat abt that. I can tell you that as you become comfortable with your sexual desires and women, you find sexual questions to be more or less like any other question. The other day I was hanging out with a friend and a girl he had just met. We were at the bus stop just chatting. Without even realizing or thinking much, I just asked her "you into women?". She replied with an answer that surprised…
/r/seduction15/03/15 05:04 PM
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Mode One really helped me back in the day when I was shy about making my intent clear. Once that is no longer a problem, you don't have to open with something extreme like "Do you want to have sex?" to get benefit from Mode One thinking. Simply being more straightforward in other ways/times has yielded me a lot of benefit. Couple of examples: When I am in set and a girl offers me her number, I often tell her "Look, you and I both know I can't even wipe my ass with your number. I'd like to meet y…
/r/seduction08/02/15 01:06 PM
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My kisses these days... Assume every girl that comes on a date with me has already kinda thought about kissing me Hold hands, often when we are crossing Walk a block Allow silence Pause. Face her body. Look her in the eye for a few seconds(no need to count) Slowly lean your head in and kiss her. Alternatively, just do steps 4-7. Most noobs fuck up with step 7 by panicking and rushing in to steal a kiss. You're not stealing shit. She's on a date with you which means she more than likely wants to …
/r/seduction08/02/15 11:28 AM
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The biggest tip I can give you: give yourself permission to fail as royally as possible. When I was at your stage in game, my biggest issue was a lingering self-doubt that I am not doing something right. It wasn't until someone suggested about being totally okay with fucking up that I started to fuck up less(amazing how that works right?). So when you are on a date and everytime you are wondering "is it going okay?", tell yourself "lol who cares, I'll be okay either way!".
/r/seduction08/02/15 11:21 AM
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Agree 1000%.
/r/seduction08/02/15 11:14 AM
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Trying to completely stop seeking approval of women is looking for some holy grail that doesn't exist. For the posters below who are saying the answer is "abundance", it is bullshit. Abundance will certainly help you reduce your approval seeking...but it won't stop it and at times, it will have zero impact. For example, you can be fucking three girls as fuck buddies. Then you run into a girl you really, really like physically and personality wise...in many cases, your fucking three girls will no…
/r/seduction08/02/15 11:13 AM
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The biggest one: talking on and on about themselves. Easy fix: get the girl to talk as much as possible. Feel free to use this format: ask question, let her answer, make a few statements somewhat related to her answer, ask another question, rinse repeat. (#2) also happens to be the best way to get a girl to fall for you.
/r/seduction08/02/15 11:09 AM
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Simple: cuz you haven't done it much! Do you drive? Imagine yourself getting in a car and trying to drive for the first time. How did it feel? How does that feeling from early days of driving contrast with your feeling from driving today? The good news is, approaching feels like pain initially. But then you hit a point where you begin enjoying it. This often happens before you have any great success. At that point, you become like me where I find myself addicted to talking to girls. I have to li…
/r/seduction08/02/15 11:06 AM
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bad. every single time. unless you're try to scare her away(prolly bad, even then).
/r/seduction08/02/15 11:03 AM
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Oh yeah :)
/r/seduction05/02/15 11:00 AM
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All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone. --Blaise Pascal
/r/seduction05/02/15 10:46 AM
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Record approaches if you think it will help you. Don't do it for an audience. I used to record audios for a while mostly so I could improve. Over time I realized that I actually do way better when not recording cuz I am not doing it to impress some stupid audience or even myself.
/r/seduction05/02/15 10:44 AM
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Probably because the whole encounter was like a movie :)
/r/seduction05/02/15 10:42 AM
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who cares if shes in hs? now if you're not certain that she is 18 or is of age of consent, find some silly excuse to see her ID/license.
/r/seduction05/02/15 10:08 AM
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Sketchy roof top timed to catch the sunset.
/r/seduction05/02/15 08:54 AM
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I recently slept with an 18 year old. I am 27. Would recommend!
/r/seduction05/02/15 08:52 AM
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dont call it a date meet for drinks(not coffee, food etc.) meet after 8pm meet near your place
/r/seduction02/02/15 06:30 AM
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First, what is your goal? Do you want to sound more interesting so you get more girls or so you feel better? Think about this seriously. Why? Because you really dont need to be very interesting to get girls, especially in day game(that is all I do....and I have done more day game than I'd like to admit). If your goal is to just have more successful conversations that lead to results, then like another poster suggests, simply ask girls questions about themselves. Then shut the fuck up and let the…
/r/seduction30/01/15 11:54 PM
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easiest way to contain your jealousy is to just let it run out while you get with other girls. so time + more girls will make you fairly noncaring abt this sort of thing.
/r/seduction20/01/15 03:17 AM
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Tip #0. Be ready to ignore every one of these tips Once you begin doing this with some type of consistency, you will almost certainly find that certain tips do not apply to your experience. In fact, your experience may be the opposite of what the tips here suggest. For example, although the popular advice is to sit next to each other, having tried both, I don't think it is very important at all and I generally sit across(esp when I'm in a cafe). Another example: I ask my dates to meet me outside…
/r/seduction16/01/15 01:25 AM
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How did she flake? In general, things like flakes happen in many different ways and may have different answers or meanings.
/r/seduction13/01/15 06:07 AM
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u're saying if logistics aren't good, then don't go for kiss till next date?
/r/seduction12/01/15 07:26 PM
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After drinks, try to bring her home. If you're in a city, you can meet near a bar by your place. You should always EXPECT and go for a kiss on the first date. Since I made a policy of never seeing a girl again if we dont kiss on first date, I've been served very well. In general, if a girl is on a date with you, she expects to kiss you. It is yours TO LOSE by fucking up. So if you are consistently getting rejected for a kiss by your dates, you're most likely doing something wrong with your verba…
/r/seduction12/01/15 04:53 PM
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My First Rule About Texting: Don't use it to meet a girl for first time. So how do you meet a girl? When you first approach the girl, set up a concrete date/time/place for the date while you are IN PERSON. It is WAY easier to do that in person than sending dozen messages over text to agree on the day of date...than another dozen for time...then location. Fuck that.
/r/seduction12/01/15 04:42 PM
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Gonna find a girl that wants to give this a shot...even if just for lulz :)
/r/seduction10/01/15 10:02 PM
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Why did u delete the post haha
/r/seduction10/01/15 05:06 AM
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Do high value men spend time writing about what should be considered high value? Do high value men constantly worry abt holding frame?
/r/seduction10/01/15 03:08 AM
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12 of 31 numbers is actually over a third haha good catch! and thank you!
/r/seduction09/01/15 06:26 PM
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so here is what is going on i think: you are taking the reactions of a limited set of younger girls and contrasting it with the reactions of the older ones. thing is, how the younger girls react to you is basically irrelevant. the younger girls do not decide how the older ones react to you. HOWEVER, your perception that older girls respond significantly less well to you than younger girls will make it come true even if it started off as just a false perception. from the few examples you have pro…
/r/seduction09/01/15 06:19 PM
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Is this what you mean? yep why asians? donno, i'm just physically aroused by them and feel a special connection when we're staring into the other's eyes...more than with the typical cute white girl(there are occasional exceptions).
/r/seduction09/01/15 11:38 AM
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I'm impressed with these stats. Could you give us a sense of your daygame style? How long do you spend in set? Do you set up the date straight away using text or do you chat a little first? My style is low key and to be flirting from the get go. A lot of girls won't be down for that and I am ok with it. But ones who are are so much fun to flirt with! I have a basic stack that I follow so in each approach I am saying 50-80% of same type of things. Do you set up the date straight away using text o…
/r/seduction09/01/15 09:12 AM
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have you been sleeping with her or just hanging out?
/r/seduction08/01/15 04:20 PM
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So take the pressure off and instead of it being like some weird job interview, go out and do fun shit with her. I guess we just have different definitions of pressure. Guys I have encountered, and me myself for a while, thought we had to be fun and interesting on a date instead of being WHOEVER the heck we chose to be. You talk about venue change etc. Is that really req'd? How about the classic date close to your apartment where you grab drinks and then end up back to your place within the hour…
/r/seduction08/01/15 03:47 PM
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dude you're so surprised that a girl may be cheating or be in a non-serious relationship?!? i thought you'd say she goes around making babies or spreading stds.
/r/seduction08/01/15 11:55 AM
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so, what happened?
/r/seduction08/01/15 08:58 AM
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Exactly. Also, people dont realize how low the bar is to be interesting to women. A girl on a recent date asked me "so what would your best friend say is the best thing abt you?". I took like a minute to respond. And then said "ummmmm probably that deep down I am a pretty nice guy with a heart". It is probably the stupidest answer to give to an 18 year old girl looking for fun. But it didn't matter.
/r/seduction08/01/15 06:29 AM
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How far are you guys willing to go? Persistence is great if you really really really like a girl. Almost always you will NOT get the girl. But there is plenty of pleasure to be derived from the pain of not getting someone you like. So if that is what you are lookin for, go for it. Truth is, after you do thousands of approaches, you rarely meet women who are worth that pain. When I started out, if I met someone I really liked and got her number, I could go months thinking abt her. But over time, …
/r/seduction08/01/15 06:24 AM
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I read your post in entirety before posting. Being interesting doesn't have to be a chore. Nothing is a chore once you get some experience with it. The advice to "be interesting" in particular is something I see day in and day out holding guys back from taking the next step. I think trying to be interesting or sound interesting is a bad idea if it is making you hold yourself back with doubt. I think it is a good idea if you are at a place where you can work on specifically that part of your game…
/r/seduction08/01/15 03:14 AM
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LOL here's my problem with your advice: I dont think you need to be very interesting or do super cool shit to get a girl. In fact, it is THAT very idea which makes a lot of people nervous. Specifically about going first, I think that's cool. But that can easily lead to you talking a lot more than her. This was the single biggest problem that I had in my dates early on: I would talk way too much! That's not the problem though...when you talk a lot, the real problem is you end up falling for the g…
/r/seduction08/01/15 02:28 AM
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You're not upset that you blew this chance with an awesome chick, you're really upset that you don't know when you'll get the next chance. There is just one solution to it: keep improving your game...patiently, smartly. Few yrs ago, I'd feel your emotions after a bad date. You know why? Cuz I wouldn't know when the next date may be. These days if a date isnt going well, I'll voluntarily end it quickly. You know why? Cuz I'm pretty confident I can use that time to get a better date.
/r/seduction07/01/15 09:11 AM
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any girl that gets jealous cuz i ask her abt her best friends is insane. luckily i have no prob getting girls to talk abt their friends.
/r/seduction07/01/15 01:27 AM
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actually a great question! i think what you will find is when you first compliment a girl on something she doesn't consider a compliment, she will be a bit embarrassed and not sure if you're serious or if you're making fun of her or just being polite. i've found simple logic to work really well in these cases. example: me: i dig your braces! girl: omg shut up no you dont me: i actually do! i know i might be the first guy in the world to say it. but braces add a level of innocence to you that i f…
/r/seduction07/01/15 01:02 AM
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personally for me, once i've gone some time with abundance in terms of my options with girls, I no longer need the girls to keep that mentality. I think what I need more than actual abundance is the belief that if I chose, I could get a girl. the easiest way to get that belief is to experience it for some period of time.
/r/seduction07/01/15 12:53 AM
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I love talking about her friends because the stories she chooses to share about them tells me things abt my date. If a girl tells you her best friend is Jenny and she's super crazy, then you ask her why...well, now you know what this girl regards as crazy. also, specific to first dates...a lot of girls have a friend or two that are looking out for them over text. that's awesome. but these girls can also be cockblocks by texting semi-judgemental shit("he's too old!!!"). I personally think talking…
/r/seduction07/01/15 12:43 AM
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Sounds like she is using the friend stuff as a polite excuse to reject you. Next. Why does anyone do this? Cuz rejecting honestly("look, you're just not my type" etc.) is very hard. And even harder if you have friends in common. So are excuses always a lie? Nope. Do this enough and you'll find very subtle ways to pick up if she is serious or bluffing to get out of an awk situation. I have a simple rule that if I propose a meet and the girl turns it down with excuse(but not a clear rejection). Th…
/r/seduction07/01/15 12:33 AM
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This is mostly correct but after you have some kinda abundance, don't be surprised that you are dealing with humans(both you and her). This means that EVEN AFTER all the abundance in the world...you may run into a girl that you like more than others. And you may fall for her hard. Does this mean abundance-fail? NO. It's a GOOD thing to actually mean someone you dig more than all the others you've met cuz of something unique she makes you feel.
/r/seduction06/01/15 08:41 AM
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Your question is so vague("what do we think"..."about complimenting"). You'll get better feedback if you offered specifics/example scenerios.
/r/seduction06/01/15 08:39 AM
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"But I have semi high standards, and I have a thing for black girls." Africa(seriously)
/r/seduction06/01/15 08:14 AM
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You may be confusing the meaning of "doormat". Doormat means being her bitch. Accepting her rudeness, buying her shit etc. Doormat doesn't necessarily mean accommodating a girl's tight schedule or being the first to text. While it is nice to have girls chasing you, don't delude yourself that you must achieve that all the time. It happens a lot more once you are in a relationship of some sorts OR if you are seeing a several girls...one of them just becomes more attached than rest. You won't read …
/r/seduction05/01/15 06:51 AM
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Taylor Swift - How You Get The Girl http://vimeo.com/110107260
/r/seduction05/01/15 06:44 AM
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I say some form of this on most my dates: "One of my pet peeves is how society makes sex always seem like something a guy takes from a girl. I find that insane cuz for me and my exes, intimacy is always something two people enjoy together. If it is really just the guy enjoying and the girl giving something to the guy...I want no part of it. And no part of a girl that feels sex is something given, not enjoyed together with someone you dig."
/r/seduction05/01/15 06:39 AM
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First of all, you have to be clear with yourself about how much this boundary means to you. Meaning, you have to be willing to optimize for not crossing your boundary instead of keeping a girl. You may well lose this girl cuz she may refuse your boundary. Are you okay with that? If not, you'll have problems. Let's say you are okay with it, I am careful about my tonality. I try to be classier/calmer. When it comes to boundaries, I am really not optimizing for keeping the girl. At that point, I am…
/r/seduction04/01/15 12:31 PM
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Thanks for sharing! It reminds me of so many of the girls I've met at the mall :-)
/r/seduction04/01/15 12:20 PM
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I was in your shoes few years ago...would get dates consistently, but not necessarily make out or sex. Then a friend told me something that we take for granted but at the same time, don't really internalize until we think about this a lot: "IF A GIRL IS ON A DATE WITH YOU, SHE HAS ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT KISSING YOU...AND OFTEN SLEEPING WITH YOU" Do you know what this means? If a girl is on a date with you, a kiss is yours to lose. The default is she'd like to kiss you. The default changes when yo…
/r/seduction04/01/15 11:27 AM
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I have a feeling your real issue isnt what you are talking abt but rather that YOU talk TOO much. Back when I was struggling with my d2s, my friend told me a secret I will never forget: "people fall in love with people who will listen to their story". This means, have the girls talk more. Ask them open minded question. This way, they are more likely to fall for you instead of only the other way around.
/r/seduction04/01/15 10:33 AM
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I do a lot of day game. Most of the time, I'm feeling some form of this: "How fucking hot is it that my next girlfriend could be just around the corner...and we may bump into the other for the first time any moment" It helps that I've met all of my girlfriends in last 3 years from day game.
/r/seduction30/12/14 11:49 AM
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Tinder!
/r/seduction07/11/14 04:16 PM
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i hate socializing. i'll stick to talking to girls i like.
/r/seduction31/10/14 06:53 PM
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