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| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and women | Debate | matten_zero | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 11:49 AM |
| 0 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems. | Debate | matten_zero | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 11:28 AM |
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| 0 | There’s a relationship drought for dating age people but half of us are in denial about it and don’t think there’s a problemRobots and AI will pick up the slack. If we survived the plague, we will survive a bit of collapse (hell maybe this will deflate the housing market). This is a natural way to reset the world economy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 08:43 AM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Like Shinji in EoE. I can respect that POV. As long as y'all ain't complaining about the ladies being the problem because they don't like you, no harm no foul. MGTOW is a valid choice, but let's not pretend people are out to harm you. Most people, like yourself, have chronic main character syndrome, esp in western countries. They really ain't worried about you, esp if you're lower class and have nothing to offer them. The reality is life is harsh and there are bigger more pressing matters on peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 05:35 AM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Sounds like a failure. Someone should have taught this to you as relationships are important part of life. How did they expect you to learn this stuff? If they aren't helping you with finding a mate, least they could have done is teach you how to talk to women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 05:30 AM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Do you know your neighbors? Have you ever said hi to them? My problem with this lot who blame woman's nature for their issues is that they don't even try or are too scared to do so. Life has much bigger tougher problems waiting ahead if you can't figure that part out. If you try, then you can make IRL friends or at the very least build a network of reliable acquaintances you will need in harsh times, which will help in your dating life as a byproduct | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 11:34 AM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.It's in response to your comment. *you're implying that men need a woman and child in order to provide for themselves and function as an adult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 07:17 AM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Why should a woman reproduce with a fat broke loser who hyper obsessed about dating woes instead of fixing his issues? Like what is the value prop here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 05:59 AM |
| 2 | Just treat women as regular people who have sex and make babiesI used to think this but then I came around to see that really feminism is just a filter for the weaker men who can't hold up. It's like natural selection, let the best man win. The guys who are not socially calibrated enough to have success in this environment are to be rooted out. We want to maximize input into the system and saying that women should not be allowed to work and contribute has negative utility to the progress of mankind. And the ways to get a woman in relationship are so simple.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 05:57 AM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.In someways the beta is the most degenerate way to live. It's anti-social and weak position to be in. Can't even defend himself, quick to call the police etc Those men have proven they will do whatever it takes beyond just playing 9-5 game. In some ways they are more masculine in that they ain't scared of anything. Imagine telling these types about MeToo and that they should stop approaching women because of it. They will rightly call you a cornball. They also tend to hang out in pacts and demon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 05:51 AM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.But if you don't solve things like where you're gonna live or how you can provide a home for said child, then it don't matter. There are some real realities to raising children that go beyond that. There are no guy with good jobs and homes and cars and social skills and health that struggle with women. Go fix those issue first before blaming women's standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 05:42 AM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Hey *we all are have to deal with the the hand we're given. Most people aren't in your position and you know that. That sounds tough but I mean even Stephen Hawking was able to get married. It's a long shot but it's possible. Use that super computer inside your brain and figure it out. Or not. That's also an acceptable choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 06:37 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.We're not facing a possible economic downturn? 😮 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 06:34 PM |
| 0 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.For guys who struggle to get laid their best bet is to focus on the marriage/LTR part IMO and less on the getting laid part. Work on getting in a relationship first and learning to relate to women as people who you're in a relationship with as opposed to this mysterious object you (not "you" literally) need to unlock for sex. The guys who can't relate to women socially IDK what to say to them. Maybe try befriending a female coworker, or find a pen pal to confide in IDK. It's literally a free ski… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 06:30 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Those who don't want to kids or a family that badly enough to do what needs to be done to make for a stable, safe home for raising shouldn't be forced to. It's an easier life. Just remember the problem isn't the women. Esp in 2024. Honestly they just need your sperm at the end of the day given how many high earning professional women there are. We don't need everyone to reproduce. Just those who are mentally and physically healthy enough for the responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 06:17 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.More power to ya🫡 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 05:29 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.What is the point of complaining? If you're expecting women to suddenly change their strategy to marry one y'all out of pity is also pretty ridiculous. My point is that the concern is missing the real problem why women don't want y'all. You're not real men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 05:29 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Bet go find her. There are many many desperate single women waiting for a man to approach her and court her like a man. The red pill theorizing ain't helping. We need more men in the real world doing real shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 05:06 PM |
| 2 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.So you have no real problems then in dating as it stands. You've solved your own problem. Reproduce and be done with it. Height can be compensated for dont act like it's the end all be all. Stop it there are plenty of tall dudes who are total dweebs who struggle with dating. I know guys who are my height 5'10" who complain no woman wants them because they are too short. If a woman can look up to you that's enough brotha. Y'all over thinking this stuff. Like to cringe nerd levels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 05:03 PM |
| -1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.The energy you need to be attractive lies in not being attached to approval of women. You need to be focused on real problems that involve survival of the family. Basically if you're self improving only so that women find you attractive, does that self improvement end the minute you enter relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:55 PM |
| 2 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Fair point I'll make an edit. Thanks for the feedback | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:52 PM |
| 2 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Lol. Brotha my dad would laugh at all this shit. He survived a civil war in the third world and emigrated to America. He's average height, mother makes most of the money but the dude is a leader and a man first. He never needed any of this Red Pill theory to find a woman to date. Come the F on. Most these guys are to scared to approach a woman. A woman who they feel are inferiors by the way. Make it make sense. What is she gonna do to you? And if you can't get over this then God help us if we as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:51 PM |
| 0 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.You ever approached a woman before? Do you have any friends? What exactly do you have to offer a woman. Your height is very low on the list. Dating apps are a curated and manipulated version of the world. Id expect RPers to be more skeptical of for-protic tech companies. Your mom married your dad. Why don't you ask him for advice? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:47 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.My point I guess was that women like men who are focused on solving real problems. Not guys who over obsess about intersexual dynamics when they are unemployed or fat or porn addicts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:44 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Kill the ego. That's her goal as well. The goal is to pass on your genes and teach your son/daughter how to fix the next generation, otherwise your ideas will die with you. You can learn eroticism and other things to keep it fresh. But I mean men also get tired of fucking the same woman eventually. There are ways to make sure it stays interesting but it requires work. But if you'd rather jerk it more power to you brotha 🫡. Read some of Ester Perel. Or give up. In the grand scheme of things no on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:42 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.I agree. It's a tough world out there. How will you make sure your family has what they need to sustain a family? Those are the problems you need to do us on first, not why women only want Chad. That's small fry shit This is why some women love criminals in the inner city. These guys will do whatever it takes to make sure their kids eat. Or at least that is the perception. It's got its own flaws (death, jail etc). But some women see that as a more viable option and honestly more brave option tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:37 PM |
| 0 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.This is not struggle. It's not. Brotha life is a lot more complicated than getting a woman to be your wife. This shit is trivial AF. If you're struggling I guarantee your problem is you haven't proved you have enough social finesse to prove you are a competent part of a community. It's not as hard as you're trying to make it seem. All of this is a coping strategy to prevent you from going out and approaching. Which is downstream of a lack of courage, which is why you don't deserve to be a father… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:34 PM |
| -7 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Ok so it's not finances. Then it's social skills or hygiene or physical health. *My point is this shit ain't rocket science. It's like the basics you should have learned from your father | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:24 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Maybe. See it from the woman's perspective: What would you do if all men did was throw their sexual interest at you regardless of how pretty you are? It's not a privilege really. For some people yes they are screwed, just like that kid stuck in the sweatshop making your clothes is probably stuck in that life forever. But in first world country, if you are able bodied and have average intelligence (which most RP guys will assume they have since they have gleaned "the Truth of reality") then yes y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:23 PM |
| 0 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Anomalies. You do know algorithm are used farm your attention right? You're getting only a sliver of the pie. I'd assume red pillers would be more skeptical of media controlled by corporations. It seems the skepticism only goes so far until it confirms your own bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:17 PM |
| 0 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Life is tough. See it from a woman's perspective. She will have to carry your child for 9 months, and raise them for 18+. You better damn well be a good match and provider. This idea that you shouldn't have to is from the movies. Real life is a bit harsher. Dating is for adults. Leave all the kid stuff behind *To add the dehumanizing goes both ways. You are not entitled to her affection just because you are nice to her. You are entitled to a respectful rejection in order for us to live in peace.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:13 PM |
| 0 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.The point is if you are struggling that badly in dating, maybe there are other more pressing issues you might want to put your energy into, like how are you preparing for the incoming recession etc. Like are you able to provide a safe place for a woman to bring children into? Many guys here have no skills or are not even working theorizing about women's behavior. That overemphasis is also part of their problem. They need to live life and build up a life people would like to join. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:09 PM |
| 0 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.I mean thats the solution. I mean unless you're in a wheel chair or for some reason disabled maybe I can see it. I live in a community with many very short guys who work in the fields or in construction. They still all got married. They honestly would find a lot of this internet stuff kinda funny. You can't be that afraid of rejection and call yourself a man. Life is much tougher than that. Our ancestors used to hunt wild animals and brave the elements, but dude can't get out their and talk to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:06 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.If no woman wants you, it's because they have better options. It's that simple. They don't owe you a relationship and frankly there are more important things than appeasing the desires of men who frankly aren't trying that hard. A lot of these guys are fat, broke, social awkward, no friends. All of this is way more important to fix and will also fix your dating life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 04:00 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Yeah I'll probably add an edit to note this. My main point was that there are probably other more pressing issues related to your inability to date. Like physical and mental health, or finances or maturity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:57 PM |
| -1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Substitute that list for personal issues: finances health community (friends and family) If all those are in good standing then we can worry about why women still don't want to risk pregnancy or STD or any other slew of relationships issues with you (I'm speaking in general not you specifically). A lot of guys just want women to change seems to be the flavor of these posts when really many of these guys don't even have good relationships with people in their community or family, or are in no pos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:55 PM |
| -3 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.My main point was focus on higher goals in your life. Like how you're gonna prepare for this recession so that you can provide a home for a woman you're gonna date. A lot of guys seem to have their entire self esteem wrapped in the approval of a human who shits and bleeds. It's an overemphasis with the guys who struggle I've noticed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:51 PM |
| 0 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.My main point is there are most likely more pressing issues in their personal lives to fix before they can become attractive. Many of them hyper obsess on theory and lack practical application. My guess is they can afford to do this because they don't provide for themselves or they have some mental blockage keeping them from socializing. My point is they need to de-emphasize why women want Chad instead of themselves. In that pursuit of higher goals they will become more attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:46 PM |
| 1 | If love, relationships, companionship, attention and affection of women isnt a reward for men's good behavior, then how come the deprivation of all of those things is some sort of punishment for morally broken behavior?What do you mean by better? You mean more options of crazy women who fawn over serial killers? Let them do them. We live in a free world. Good luck convincing people to surrender their freedoms to confirm to your worldview | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:43 PM |
| 3 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Sure. Substitute that list then. I promise you most of those problems are still problems for the RP/black pill guy, but their focus is somehow still on women's behavior | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:41 PM |
| -3 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.TikTok isn't real life. Social media is manufactured. Engagement farming etc. People are not like this in general. Have you ever tried meeting people outside of apps? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:39 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Sure. I picked those examples pretty quick. Some better examples are how are your finances? what are your life goals? any addictions you can focus on first (sex, gambling, porn, gaming) how's your relationship with friends and extended family (who could help do you have any friends? hows your health (mental and physical) If all of those are good then I'd be shocked that you can't find a date if you're actually trying to meet people. That's why I said it's not a real problem because it solves its… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:38 PM |
| 0 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.That is if that's all you bring to the table. You can be a jack of all trades and still learn how to keep a relationship sexually interesting (Ester Perel has some good insights on how to do this in long term relationships). Or you can be that provider type with multiple girlfriends. The world is your oyster. Many ways to win. Pick one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:33 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Exactly it's like their whole world is consumed by this stuff. And this obsession they don't realize is actually making them less attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:30 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.If you see it as therapeutic sure. But some posts are more aimed at blaming the issue on women, when really these men need to take charge of their own lives and make a life a woman would want to join you in to build a family. That's my major point. It's sad but dwelling on it ain't gonna fix it. The journey is long but it starts with the first step. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:29 PM |
| 4 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Yes both are cringe and both probably need therapy or to meditate more to address their hang ups | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:27 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.My point is their inability to date and mate is downstream of more pressing issue: -hygiene -finances -social skills -maturity etc I guess I was trying to say "get over yourself. Theorizing about why women are the way they are ain't helping you". I literally saw a post here that went something along the lines of "women are punishing me by rejecting me" or some other diatribe. To me there are other more pressing matters in their life that they should address first (therapy, meditation etc). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:25 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.I agree. My main point was the source of the problem isn't really women's behavior (generally there are exceptions of course). The problem is they haven't introspected enough on why they are struggling in dating. Usually it's a slew of other more important factors. I might have not worded it correctly but that was my main point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:21 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.You can, its entertaining, but the solution is to go out there and learn to socialize. A lot of the posts are of people who don't even try to go outside. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:01 PM |
| -1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.What about you makes you a catch? Or worthy of someone's affection? Focus on contributing to society and maybe people will value you. Learn some social skills, find a community and your dating woes will disappear. That's my experience at least. Theorizing about why women don't want you is divorced from the reality of actually going out and learning to socialize and be a functional contributor to society. You can't shame women into desiring you. And why would you want to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:00 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.The way some of these posts sound you'd think it is. I read a recent post where the guy said "women rejecting me is immoral". Just mind boggling | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 02:57 PM |
| -14 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Dating isn't a real problem. It's more of a maturity and bravery problem for this demographic, esp incels. A lot of them don't socialize and they theorize about why women don't swipe on their profile pics. That was my main point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 02:56 PM |
| 4 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Many of the issues are related to many men not even trying. They are too busy theorizing about what will go wrong, when really the consequences of approaching a woman is so small in the grand scheme of things. Most of the problem is how much emphasis they put on women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 02:50 PM |
| -4 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.The point is that the solution to their problems is to see this stuff as small fry stuff, grow up and just approach the woman. These problems disappear once you realize they aren't that big a deal and that women are just people at the end of the day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 02:48 PM |
| -9 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.The problems and catastrophic language and black pill content makes me wonder why these people don't understand how trivial all this is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 02:45 PM |
| 0 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Go to parts of Africa and see how trivial dating is. You don't have real problems. If you can't find a date because you lack courage to go out and find your match, IDK what to say. I mean if you believe in red pill you must understand you are selecting yourself out of the gene pool with this mentality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 02:42 PM |
| 1 | If love, relationships, companionship, attention and affection of women isnt a reward for men's good behavior, then how come the deprivation of all of those things is some sort of punishment for morally broken behavior?If you're a Catholic go find a Catholic girl who shares your worldview. Sounds like your problem is your limited view of the world and inability to conceive of a moral system outside of your own, which is probably related to your disease. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 02:40 PM |
| 1 | If love, relationships, companionship, attention and affection of women isnt a reward for men's good behavior, then how come the deprivation of all of those things is some sort of punishment for morally broken behavior?Morality is relative. Most people are secular in the parts of the world where any of this is a relevant issue. Most people don't think it's immoral to reject you. Come on how old are you brotha. Ain't no way you really think they are punishing you because they don't want to reproduce with you? Given the risks and long term cost of child birth it is rational to pick the best person. Logically that make sense. Actually if you're so standfast on everyone acting rationally, why are you expecting peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 12:56 PM |
| 11 | Women need to accept that they have sexual power.BASED AF. I know a little something about this being a former athlete. The way people treat you like an object because you can run fast and jump high is quite enlightening. I think some of these people (probably all of them) are the most mentally ill, hence why they come online to these spaces. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 11:20 AM |
| 4 | Women need to accept that they have sexual power.Women are objects of sexual desire. It's like being a celebrity. Everyone wants something from you. That can be incredibly dangerous and powerful. It's something you envy but if you were a woman you would understand. Just like vice versa. You need to step out of your own mind and try to understand the other side of the equation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 11:16 AM |
| 2 | Women need to accept that they have sexual power.What's wrong with having power? The world is literally run by laws which only works with violence, which is the world of men. Seem pretty fair to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 11:13 AM |
| 2 | If love, relationships, companionship, attention and affection of women isnt a reward for men's good behavior, then how come the deprivation of all of those things is some sort of punishment for morally broken behavior?Diagnosed ASPD. That actually makes more sense if that's true. I have no idea what that's like so I sympathize with your struggle I didn't notice that part earlier. People aren't that calculated consciously. Most people can't remember to pay their credit card bills, let alone keep track of manipulating people with directed goals. Most people live aimless lives. Even if I grant you that subconsciously that's what's happening, what's the point of trying to argue about why people do things subconsc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 11:11 AM |
| 6 | If love, relationships, companionship, attention and affection of women isnt a reward for men's good behavior, then how come the deprivation of all of those things is some sort of punishment for morally broken behavior?Actions aren't necessarily punishment or rewards. When people interact with you they are not punishing or rewarding you all the time. It is yourself who is putting those interpretation. Who raised you to believe in that dichotomy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 09:29 AM |
| 11 | If love, relationships, companionship, attention and affection of women isnt a reward for men's good behavior, then how come the deprivation of all of those things is some sort of punishment for morally broken behavior?Their existence is a punishment to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 08:39 AM |
| 0 | Just treat women as regular people who have sex and make babiesSome men eventually grow up. I went through a whole phase before I came to this realization. I think capitalism has alienated a lot of people from their families and ruined a lot of men and women but that's a whole other conversation.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 02:41 AM |
| 3 | Just treat women as regular people who have sex and make babiesWhy do you feel you are performing? If all you want from a woman is sex, then just go pay for it. Honestly this is very anti-social way at looking at your fellow human being. No society can exist with that type of mindset | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 04:18 PM |
| 7 | Just treat women as regular people who have sex and make babiesIt's surprising how hard it is for people to understand this. I chalk it up to men not being raised by real men. Too many absentee boomer parents raised boys who never grew up. This used to be basic common courtesy and etiquette back in the day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 04:15 PM |
| 5 | Just treat women as regular people who have sex and make babiesThe problem is overthinking the situation. In a world with much bigger problems, a woman implicitly has no time to waste procreating with a coward. 9 months and 18 years is a large commitment so it's no wonder "nice guy" is very distasteful. These should have been trained out of you by a father figure but many boys didn't grow up properly hence they are stuck in as nice guys with no spine. Grow up, go for what you want. Don't apologize. It's that simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 04:11 PM |
| 2 | In 20 years, will women blame men for allowing their sexual liberation?Women will fall in line if men become men again. Most are kinda soft nowadays. Hence why women act up and disrespect y'all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 10:49 AM |
| 9 | In 20 years, will women blame men for allowing their sexual liberation?Why should a woman agree to reverse women's liberation? What exactly is the benefit? Women are not stupid. They are just as intelligent (and on average are probably more intelligent) as most men. They don't rebel against women's lib because it isn't advantageous to do so. Who wants to submit to a guy making 40k a year, who she has no respect for because he's too busy playing video games instead of taking care of the house? A lot of guys are useless in today's society because of choices they make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 07:45 PM |
| 11 | In 20 years, will women blame men for allowing their sexual liberation?In a sense yes. It was a big shit test that men failed. And now men keep failing by playing the silly Me Too games. It's why women fawn over and have more respect for the gangster and rebels. They don't tolerate bullshit the same way domesticated men do. Women's lib was important so far that you don't want women feeling forced to marry a man they have no feelings or respect for. The problem isn't women's lib, the problem is the men ain't like our grandparents. Grandparents in the 40s -60s we're … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Double standard re. Male vs female insecuritiesIt's everyone's fault. Waiting for people to change their double standards ain't gonna help you. Most double standards exist subconsciously and have some advantages in upholding them. All you can do is focus on improving your life and taking accountability. If you got stuff you want to work on, do it. Or not. The universe is a big place and whether you self improve or wait for double standards to change, no one really cares at the end of the day, so control what you can and leave the rest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 07:24 PM |
| 2 | Onlyfans and gooners are ruining the internet.My algo is pretty clean on YT. It really depends on what you consume for the most part. If anything YT is less likely to push this type of content to you. These AI are making predictions based on your consumption habits. I'm not a big fan of OF. I actively tell YT I'm not interested in that stuff. I still watch the more intellectual debates manosphere debates for entertainment (not the usual suspects you're thinking about) and I dont get much of that suggested to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 07:17 PM |
| – | Redditors really live in a bubble, that's why I would take people's takes here with a grain of saltNah I think a lot have a grasp on social dynamics but are too autistic to let it go and live more on feeling and "reading the room". They forget most of this stuff they complain about is subconscious for both genders | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 09:39 AM |
| 1 | "Even if I Got a Girlfriend, She'll Always Want Someone Else" - Is This An Example of Low Self Esteem/Insecurity?So will you. Monogamy is not natural, it's a choice. It's why you watch tons of variety in regards to porn. Even when you become perfect, grass is greener is a flaw we all have. At the end of the day it's about mental discipline, hence why you should date from both a rational and emotional place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 09:35 AM |
| 1 | CMV: the gas lighting needs to stopIt doesn't though. Most of this is subconscious and advantageous. Why would anyone in their right mind stop "gaslighting" you if they benefit from it? Y'all gotta learn how to play the game better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 09:33 AM |
| – | What do woman have to bring to the table in relationships besides sex ?Sounds like the equation for a wife finding an excuse to eventually stop having sex with you because "it's not important". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 03:29 AM |
| 1 | If women hit the wall, according to men, would it be in a young woman's best interest to NOT date older men?Now how many guys you think are gonna run around and cheat? Most guys barely have enough game/social skills to get a girl to date, let alone act like a player. Most guys aren't passport bros. That's the bad faith I'm talking about. The amount of guys wanting to be passport bro players is vanishingly small. As a reformed player it's not even really worth it and a bit of a headache. Most guys just wanna go home and play videogames and watch sports etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 11:38 PM |
| 1 | If women hit the wall, according to men, would it be in a young woman's best interest to NOT date older men?Not necessarily. I dated a very agreeable 40 year old who we both knew children was off the table, so things went at a nice pace, as opposed to the women in their 30s who are really desperate and thus are really keen to keep exploring options before being forced to "settle" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 10:02 PM |
| 2 | If women hit the wall, according to men, would it be in a young woman's best interest to NOT date older men?Thats the bad faith interpretation. The good faith is "cooperative". Agreeable doesn't mean slave. It just means less aggression. Most people are fairly nice. Why are you assuming the worst? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 09:57 PM |
| 10 | If women hit the wall, according to men, would it be in a young woman's best interest to NOT date older men?The "wall" is hyperbole. Women are pretty hot at any age. When we say women hit the wall at 30 what it actually means is: women are less agreeable at an older age, which increases conflict women have more "babies rabies" at 30 and start becoming more desperate and basically that hurts their behavior in dating like red pill ragers, women after 30, unless they are very self aware, will be very jaded and take that out on the men they feel forced to "settle" for Fertility for women is more irreversi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 01:32 AM |
| 1 | What's your dating hot take? Something you believe from your own dating experiences that this sub would typically disagree with?That's life. The universe doesn't really care. Their kids starving in Gaza ATM. Your inability to overcome your "problem" and at least try to improve your life is your choice. In some ways it's a luxury you can actively choose to ruin or improve your life. Many people (past and present) never had it as good as you have it. So go out there and make the best of what you got and be thankful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 04:38 AM |
| 1 | What's your dating hot take? Something you believe from your own dating experiences that this sub would typically disagree with?If you do the above, it will happen naturally. When you try to force it, that's when it starts to fail because people smell the neediness. Basically if you'll be friends with anyone, is your friendship valuable? Same goes with niceness etc. People want to hangout with people who choose them because they earned it. People who are patient for your social issues are far and few. If that's the case online is the best approach. Start a group for people desperate to make friends and I'm sure you'll ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 12:20 AM |
| 1 | What's your dating hot take? Something you believe from your own dating experiences that this sub would typically disagree with?Modern western dating is a shitshow for pretty much everyone involved, but it is infinitely preferable to systems in the past and in other parts of the world. I agree 99% There is an issue with birth rates, but AI and robotics will replace human utility so that the economy can keep running even with shrinking population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 09:50 PM |
| 2 | What's your dating hot take? Something you believe from your own dating experiences that this sub would typically disagree with?The point is to grow your network so that you have more options for everything you want (career opportunities, knowledge, and dating). It just happens naturally sometimes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 09:41 PM |
| 2 | What's your dating hot take? Something you believe from your own dating experiences that this sub would typically disagree with?Marriage is not necessary for happiness and many men and women will be probably happier single than married. Marriage requires sacrifices that our secular, hyper consumerist personalities can't deal with. Some people make it work but only for a short time in modern times. That's why marriage was tied to religion and makes no sense in the secular world. FWB is a superior way to live your adult life if you want to experience all life has to offer in terms of materialism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 09:34 PM |
| 1 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?You skim that stop playing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 06:13 AM |
| 1 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?Fair points. I think a lot of the problem is a lot of the good well mannered guys just don't approach women anymore. The guys you see approaching the flirty girls are the womanizer types. For every womanizer, there are tons of wallflower guys who end up going down the RP/PUA rabbit hole once they strike out on online dating. How often you been approached IRL? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 06:36 PM |
| 1 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?See, I feel pity for them. Having a career is usually a vastly better way to find a husband (and keep one— having lower education and being lower class are both correlated with an enhanced divorce rate) than working in a Denny’s. And then on top of that men reward women who are more promiscuous with wildly more attention than they reward women who don’t put out. These women weren’t being hypocrites (I fail to see how having a career and sex is hypocritical at all), they’re just responding to men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 03:27 PM |
| 1 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?I don't think most men think "ugh I have no choice" when they agree to an LTR or propose marriage. That's an exaggeration. If you lived as a guy you'd probably understand it more but there are a lot of "ugly" girls that I think are kinda hot in their own way and become more so when they also are really pleasant to be around. Loving your personality is not being picky. It's something you can control quite easily, given you want to for the man you love. Not being a headache goes a long way for guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Many men who complain about being alone have high standards too.As a former RP guy I don't think that's the case. Alot of guys come to RP after divorce with a fairly average woman. The argument for younger woman is a proxy for fertility and less conflict. My best relationship was with an older woman so I clearly don't believe it's an age thing as much as a cultural phenomenon. Younger women in general have less baggage. I don't think the men are picky as much as they are always surprised that even average to below average women have an attitude like they are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 07:18 PM |
| 1 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?I mean give up in the sense of those ladies should go live in their delusion and see where it gets. Your average guy probably did liked you a lot. Him "settling" is not a resentful settling. Men have a wide variety of tastes in a person physically. We don't need to act on it with a woman who is pleasant and easy going. My last FWB relationship was awesome and really only ended because I moved, but she wasn't the prettiest woman in my eyes but she had a beautiful soul and was fun to be around. Wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 06:00 PM |
| 1 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?You're only reading part of my responses. I'm clearly talking about "older women who don't adjust their standards and learn to be happier and content with a man who isn't as exciting etc". I'm not talking about ALL women after 30. That talking point from TRP is cringe AF. The stubborn 30+ year old woman who won't learn from her mistakes really should just give up though. I will stand on that. That's comes back to to a lack of accountability on the woman's part. The best relationship I had was wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 03:23 PM |
| 1 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?It's like you didn't read where I was conceding to some of your points. I was specifically speaking about ladies who in their later years keep making the same mistakes and holding the same rigid standards, esp when they should have learned by now. IDK why they do it. It may be in my circle of career-focused women who act like this. But given that this is a big enough issue that people are talking about it online, I'd reckon women think like this more than you might want to believe. Men make mist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 08:57 AM |
| 1 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?I actually don't think that about women IRL. Most women look better to me in their 30s. Personality wise I find that I have more in commone with a woman in her 30s. But I also find that unless they went to therapy, they also have more baggage. My favorite relationship so far was with a woman in her 40s. The RP narrative about older woman is mostly stupid and content creators use it as a punchline to feed their rage-porn addicted fans. But that doesn't mean it's all sunshine and rainbows for an o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 01:58 AM |
| 1 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?The women on reddit complaining are usually in the "some" category. Generally unmarried and looking for answers. The same goes for the men (probably more so). So to this is addressing those women. Because the prevailing narrative for the last 20 years is that men in general are the problem when really the problem is the small percentage of womanizers women seem to like choosing. I've on occasion warned some women about the guys they are choosing, only for them to come crying to me about that cho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 01:44 AM |
| 1 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?Sure but if after all that life experience and mistakes they still decide to chase the same type of person or hold resentment for the person they "settled for", then yeah they should just give up. I say this because it seems these types of ladies generally are always pointing at what is wrong with the other person rather than having some introspection | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 07:39 PM |
| 1 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?Yeah hence the word "some". And yep it goes both ways | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 07:33 PM |
| 2 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?Yeah I'm starting to just accept women reason through their emotions first. Arguing with women is kinda pointless most of the time. I've met some women who can ignore their gut reaction and have a good faith discussion but it's fairly rare. All down votes but no reasoned responses. C'est la vie 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 01:08 PM |
| – | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenOk so then they don't need friends that badly then 🤷♂️. People find ways to make hermit life work. In the grand scheme of things if you never find friends or romance the world goes on. Greater men and women have left this world without any noticeable impact. So get on with living life in accordance with your goals, because no one really cares in the end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 04:05 AM |
| 1 | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?It's a massive blind spot and I wonder sometimes if it's genetic. Even female doctors and lawyers I know act like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 10:57 PM |
| – | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?You have a point there. But there are also some ladies out there who have a come to Jesus moment in mid 30s and now looking down on the "average man" and will unhappily settle and resent that guy in marriage because "he's boring". Generally these guys are fairly easy going, hard working, but boring in her eyes. This is probably due to social media and the constant game of comparison that happens in regards to lifestyle. The accountability men are looking for is women who will acknowledge the con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 10:55 PM |
| – | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?Reading that exchange convinced me that there was no accountability taken. You can tell when someone never concédés on any point if they are arguing in good faith. In all my years of debating the only people who concède points are men. Women seem to always deflect or downplay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 10:36 PM |
| 2 | Being more dominant and primal in the bed can dramatically improve your LTRLiterally this. But many women will lie to you about this. That is its own shit test. But it shouldn't be an act it should just be you being selfish for your own sake. Being romantic etc is just another form of nice guy behavior. It's why I like FWB better than BF/GF as it places the correct distance and boundaries so that you don't get taken for granted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 08:15 AM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenDoesn't matter. Join a rugby club or a boxing gym or martial arts dojo. And if it's because of a disability find some other activity like D&D or fan clubs. People will be happy to include you if you go in with an open mind and don't go with weird personality quirks that make it seem like you NEED a friend. The point is to join an activity you enjoy where you can naturally overcome challenges together or vent about your favorite topics etc. That's how friends are made naturally. But I get it. Peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 07:15 AM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenBut you would agree that it's a more reasonable way to approach finding a partner? I find some people approach dating like this: "First I'm gonna see if I like this person, then if I do I'm gonna try to make this person my BF/GF, and thenwe'll get married after a few years". I think more people went in thinking, "I just looking for a friend with benefits" and did that for a couple of years instead of the traditional relationship ladder, they would find their partners value them more and don't ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 10:42 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenYeah I kinda agree. If my friend died or moved, I would miss them. I'm not heartless! I just have boundaries. The words "my whole world" gives me flashbacks to a clingy ex I had who would want to do EVERYTHING with me. Going to do my hobbies created jealousy and she tried killing herself when I tried breaking up multiple times. I ain't ever gonna do that "my whole world" type of love. I can love someone and not make them myself. My thing is if I like my living space one way, when she moves in an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 01:06 AM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenSee Im trying to avoid that 25 years of toxicity though... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 12:58 AM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenTHIS. I'm trying to remove the stigma. The only thing is my goal is to not move towards moving in together etc. It's basically a relationship with .maximum freedom and respect. I'm not against marriage but I see a lot of people going with marriage as the end goal and it just makes them act in weird ways during dating (hence all the games) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 12:55 AM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenMarrying a nagging wife will also drive you insane. People can live alone and have social connections and live long healthy lives. Why do people assume this isn't possible? Are people unable to be with their thoughts? Why do you need constant attention? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 12:52 AM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFair enough thanks for the back and forth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 12:50 AM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenDid I direct this at you? Did I say marriage is stupid? Why are you so offended? Let's debate like adults (hence the Debate tag). Out of the 100s of comments, this was the rudest. If this is how you communicate with strangers, aid hate to see how you talk to your wife after a long day or when you get mad. Or be your kid after a long day. Go to anger management my dude. This just made it more clear the type of people who want marriage...people that want a punching bag to return to 😂🥊😮 yikes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 12:49 AM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenChad and Tyrone carries the stigma of players who do situationship. I'm talking about a friendship with an adult woman who also doesn't need to be with you everyday. Sure she might catch feelings but that just makes our time together more precious and she will learn to respect you and not do the annoying shit like nagging. Perfect for busy professional. And friends are easy to make as an adult. You need hobbies to bond with men. Generally playing competitive sports is a good way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 12:44 AM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFair enough. Remember this everyday or anytime you feel like taking it for granted. Many people have the grass is greener and forget how valuable their partner really is. I wish you and your hubby a long happy relationship 🥰 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 12:40 AM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFair points! I'm all for "to each their own". I just wanted to present a strong argument to counter the stigma against FWB, because I see a lot of people confounding FWB with the more manipulative "situationship". Plus I see a lot of older women who seem to think marriage is in the cards for them, when their priorities probably are better suited for FWB so they can pursue their passions and also have some companionship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 12:37 AM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI think in relationship you're not supposed to make someone on your "whole world". That's sounds a bit psychotic and is sounding like that Disney channel romanticized love. You need boundaries in any relationship. Making someone "your whole world" sounds clingy as hell. Most relationship coaches will tell you that's toxic as hell. I think that's called anxious attachment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 12:33 AM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI mean a day of alone time would do some anxiously attached people some good. Meditation is an awesome practice for those needing to learn to live with themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 06:11 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI've had 2. Both were great. 1 was maybe the best relationship I've ever had. The other was good but then she began to want to change the parameters so I decided to cut it off before she got hurt (I didn't have time for the traditional see you 3-5x week type of BF/GF situation). Still talk to both as friends, one more than the other because we share more hobbies in common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 06:01 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenImplicitly exclusive. I told her in the beginning I wasn't gonna date anyone else because I don't have time to date and she said the same. If anything changed I would have told her and her to me. But we enjoyed each other so we had no reason to change anything. I'm considering my next FWB to be open though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:54 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenRemember that friendship is a real relationship. I'm not talking about empty, situationships where you're leading a woman on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:49 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenHow would you explain declining marriage rates? If people are deciding to not get married at an increasing rate, how can it be that this is just a feeling of the minority? It seems like these types of relationships are more popular every day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:43 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFair enough. I have some friends in mind and I find it hard that some person I dated for like 5 years would magically become more important than the 10+ years and the struggle they've seen me go through. It feels really fake to think just because I sleep/live with this person that somehow now they supercedes all of that because traditionally you're supposed to love your spouse with all your soul. It just feels like a script, because we know unconditional love doesn't exist in romantic love. Let … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:37 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenPreach! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:28 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenAnd if they judge you for it then you know those people ain't your real friends. You're in the relationship for yourself, not the approval of friends who will make fun of you for it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:15 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenDepends what you mean. The Disney channel version? Probably not. But I have love for the people closest to me and that includes my friends | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:13 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFriendship is a REAL relationship. In some ways it's more real than the obligatory romanticized version of love we all assume only exists in marriage. I guarantee you your friend you've known for over 10 years loves you more than your husband. I have friends like that. Maybe it's just my situation but I hope you can find friends like that. I'm just here seeing how people ponder about this (may or may not be working on an essay discussing this 😉). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:12 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI thought the whole point of the last 50 years was so that you don't need to be married to have a fulfilled life (man or woman). What is this the 50s? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:08 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI think I might have a different relationship between family and friends. Family are people who you're obligated to not out of love. Friends are people who are there for you. I personally wouldn't expect family to do any of that for me, but I'll admit that's my own situation and probably unique to me. A friend at least would help. Families can be sometimes hella toxic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:54 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and women😂😂😂 It doesn't go quite like that but touche | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:51 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenIt's not the same you're right about that. It's basically all the good parts minus family fusion and raising children. It's DINKs who live separately, perfect for modern professional who have very busy lives and hobbies they don't want to compromise. A FWB i can hang out with a few hours a week and everything is fine. She's independent and can handle herself. A traditional relationship if I did that I would be accused of "neglect". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:45 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI did it was in an FWB. I'll concede there are people who are civil in a relationship. Ive just seen many blowup and I think "man those two were so civil when they were just dating". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:40 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenWhy are you putting in effort? They should love you as you are (provided you didn't lie during the dating process). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:38 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenThis is so beautiful. I'd say I wish something like this will come my way but I've only found it in FWB situation. Maybe that's the key to y'all success is that you approached dating as friends first and then by happenstance decided to go for it. I think a lot of people date with the intention to marry and end up forcing the wrong people into their lives and have to then "work" to keep it going (which sounds like hell on earth). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:36 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenWhy is that? I think many people don't think that deeply about this. A lot of brainwashing from the movies about romantic love being somehow being different or more special. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:33 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenShe could have lied sure. But she's a good friend. If she will lie to me as a friend, she would lie to me in a more traditional relationship. Maybe I'm different I don't just treat people differently because I took them on a few dates. Friendship actually means something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:30 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenWould you "betray" your friend? Friendship is a very strong bond. It's not as fickle as you are describing it. I'm not talking about situationships where the man is just leaving it up in "what are we" world | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:28 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenWhat kind of a friend doesn't care for the needs of your partner? I'm talking about FRIENDS with benefits not the less ethical situationship. Women get into FWB when the sex is good. Id argue the best sex is from the open/FWB crowd. The traditional marriage crowd is full of dead bedrooms, cheating, resentment etc. You really telling me the best sex is with the guy who knows you won't leave? Make that make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:26 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenSo they don't want friendship with a man? Remember I'm not talking about "what are we" situationships (been there done that not proud of it). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:21 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenIsn't that what friends are for though? You don't have friends who can get you out of a crisis? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:19 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenAnd it's def more egalitarian. She's my friend. We split everything. We keep our places exactly how we like them. And what chores require two people to maintain an apartment? Am I missing something? Robots vacuums, washers and dryers, dishwashers, hell I even have an electric tub scrubber so that chore is easy too. The nagging comes IMO when things aren't the way the OTHER person likes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:18 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI love my friends and family. Are you alone if you are only a text or drive away? Solitude and loneliness are not the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:14 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI literally was in this situation. Busy professionals who are too busy to date each other but get along great and trust each other but not really interested in dating around or moving in. It definitely happens and it's awesome. She also already had a kid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:12 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenThey can but why would they want to, esp the woman? I'm assuming this is for busy people who don't want to date around, hence they choose to share that with a friend they trust. I think people assume I'm talking about iffy situationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:10 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFair enough family is a good reason to get married. I see some people complain about in laws and I just scratch my head and think "that's the point, you're supposed to love your new combined family". Let's just say I've seen enough people do marriage the wrong way and I just think these people would be better off FWB. I just see everything is fine with a couple pre marriage, and then give it a year or 2 in and I'm hearing how annoying he is because xyz. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:07 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenJust because I'm not fucking her doesn't mean the relationship ends. Is that how it works in LTRs? The minute the sex ends you end the relationship? Where's the "love" in that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:03 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenWhen you say slightly harder what do you mean? Because there is a whole spectrum of things that people do that are relationship-enders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:02 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenInteresting point about growth. I think that growth can also lead you to realize those types of relationships where you're constantly changing yourself at the whims of your partner's own idiosyncrasies is it's own hell, and thus you decide to leave and find people/situations you don't have compromise for. I'm a recovering nice guy who basically went through a player phase and then found out FWB and the dating phase just less stressful and more fun than the move-in together phase of LTRs. Friends… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:00 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFriendship is a relationship. Why do people have this weird idea that once you start dating something magical happens that can't happen with friendship? Think about it. you meet someone on an app or through mutuals IRL and somehow this person will become more important than friends you've known for years? Your friends will be there when the relationship ends to pick up the pieces. Friendships last waaaay longer than most romantic relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 03:48 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenSituationship is basically the guy leading on the woman. He's not her friend at all and doesn't care about her well being. Basically it's leading someone on or not defining the relationship, esp when the lady (usually) is wanting to know "what are we". FWB is friends first. You actually care about your friend and you don't lead them on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 03:44 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenOh yes former lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:47 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI ended the physical part because I don't live near her anymore. Basically shes free to see new people if she wants (as was always the case). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:44 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenTech will extend the window (artificial wombs, synthetic gametes, advanced fertility drugs etc). Even so most women with careers and ambition are waiting. I feel like they are in denial and keep pretending like their goal is marriage when really they are better off with a FWB | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:18 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenIt hasn't been an issue till now. Marriage rates have been decreasing since the 70s. Here is a chart just for illustration: https://www.bgsu.edu/ncfmr/resources/data/family-profiles/loo-marriage-rate-US-geographic-variation-2022-fp-23-23.html If that trend continues it may become the norm to remain unmarried. At which point those people will start demanding those rights | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:15 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenEven so, that clock is actually a bad thing to act on. Imagine settling for some dude you just kinda like just because you want to have a kid, only to nag him and change him to fit your needs. That's sounds terrible. I know a couple where the woman basically did that because where she is from women at her age are considered "unmarriageable" and she basically married the first guy she kinda got along with. She complains about him all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:10 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenThat is a good point I didn't think about home ownership. But many people in my part of the world even that ain't enough. Lots of people living in apartments with no hopes of ever owning a home. In my part of the world the only people who made it work had help from family and saved up 6 figure salary while living at home for years for the down payment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:06 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFair point. I was attempting to see if people could change my viewpoint and I've seen some pretty convincing counterarguments | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:02 PM |
| -1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI ended it for now. She's free to see someone else. I don't own her lol. She's still a friend and we talk from time to time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:01 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenMy colleagues are pushing 40, no chance in sight they are getting married or having kids. The funny thing is they work in tech and have all the financial security to get married and settle down. I think that was true for GenX. But Millennials in my part of the world seem hell bent on waiting till like 40 to start having kids. The popular thing to do in my office is the ladies to start freezing their eggs at 32-34 ish. I just listen to them at lunch and just wonder if they are thinking ahead of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:59 PM |
| 0 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenGiven declining birth rates and marriage rates and pushed for more inclusive laws in regards to LGBTQ, I can see pressure for these laws to include unmarried couples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:53 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenOoooh I never heard of LAT. Thank you for the recommendation. I know about the SOLO movement but that sounds up my alley! That list isn't very long: Kids raised in a 2 parent home And that's about all I can think of. I love my friends and I really enjoyed my FWB but I know if it goes beyond that the magic will disappear. When you see someone everyday, it gets boring. Compromise breeds resentment etc. My friends are super supportive and my FWB was also pretty supportive. I guess you could say an … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:51 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenTechnology will make it even more ideal. I agree! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:44 PM |
| 1 | People in PPD, what would you like to change with regards to modern dating and relationships?When did I say that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:42 PM |
| 0 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI don't know I talk to some of my colleagues and I think these ladies ain't got a shot at marriage. Too selfish and career focused. The type of guys they want aren't gonna play second fiddle. I should just straight up ask them why they don't just consider a FWB instead of pretending they want to be married | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:41 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI actually had to stop seeing her because I left the area for work. Still talk with her here and there. It lasted like a year. I wish it was more normalized because it is hard to find people who also think this makes sense despite the obvious benefits (in my opinion). Could also be I like living alone and not having to compromise about how I organize my room. I'm hoping these arrangements become the norm so I don't have to search so hard. Every girl I meet seems to be looking for long term, but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:36 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenAlso FWB is a relationship. It's not a situationship. You still socialize and talk with each other and hang out. It's not just sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:29 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI guess I'm talking from my experience with my coworkers. All mid 30s no kids, some married. In an office of 100 people the only married people were the people over the age of 50. The rest are either single or basically DINKs with a couple of dogs. Tech industry, San Fran area. I'll concede this is less common in less urbanized cities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:28 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenThat's all just legal status and benefits. We can rewrite the laws. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:23 PM |
| 0 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFWB works with people who don't have time to party and date. I'm thinking a career woman who is always travelling etc. It doesn't make that much sense for younger people though. Those kids should just date. For busy professionals, FWB is the way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:22 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenYep I was able to pull off FWB with an older woman with a kid as well. She used to talk me about how miserable her marriage was, and because we saw each other every other week, we actually valued the time we had together. And because we were friends, there was none of this "why didn't you respond to my text for the whole day's or all the other possessive stuff that happens in most traditional LTRs. It's the wave. The only thing is raising kids. But people dont even do that when they get married … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:20 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenSee I'm the opposite. I basically have a full time gig, side project, semi-pro sports league and my own extra hobbies and traveling. I basically only had time to see my FWB for like a few hours a week if that. I think that helped keep it fresh and we actually treasures out time together, but we both knew we weren't getting married (she had a kid and was a career woman herself who enjoyed travelling for weeks on end etc) When I think back to my old LTR, it was like I see them everyday, call them … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:16 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenA 1 year fling lol. That's a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:09 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenIt's a debate. I'm challenging my thinking. I've conceded some points already in some of my replies. Hence "Debate" tag | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:08 PM |
| 3 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenYou work hard at your career just to work hard at home? That sounds like hell. Your friends don't require work. That's why I say FWB is more harmonious. Esp sans religion or traditional roles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:06 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenWould you say your friendships are "casual arrangements" though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:04 PM |
| 3 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenNot true. Modern career women actually enjoy the peace of paying their own way without all the baggage and expectations traditional gender roles bring. Once you're sleeping with a woman and the sex is good, she's not gonna go exploring. The relationship is good, you have fun, go on dates etc. The only way it fails is if she is still blinded by traditional roles and wants the wedding and to meet your parents. For the modern woman who doesn't want all that BS, FWB is like having a boyFRIEND, but s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:03 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFriendships are relationships though. I'm not talking about the undisclosed "what are we" situationship. I've done that too (not proud of it). I'm talking about well defined FWB. Esp with busy career people who don't have time to be dating but don't want to move in, change careers, or compromise etc. Basically all the good parts of being BF/GF, but with more equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:58 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenExactly! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:56 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenAre their friends you have that are longer than any committed relationship you've had? Would you say you trust those people with your life? Id argue the same can happen in FWB situation (strong emphasis on the friend dynamic) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:55 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI can concède on that point. My FWB was starting to get feelings but she was pretty good at keeping it in check, also we were too busy with our careers for us to see each other enough for it to be a problem. If I wanted a date to go to a movie and have dinner late, Id call her up and see if she was free. I argue this is the ideal dynamic for the modern career woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:53 PM |
| 4 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFWB are a relationship. It's a friend with benefits. It's like being in the dating stage but with someone you're friends with and know you won't be doing anything more than that. It's like your other friendships and as serious as that, except you have sex and go on dates on occasion. When the sexual part ends you're still friends | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:50 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenMy FWB was with a career woman who had a kid. I also was very busy. Basically even if we had the opportunity, we were too busy to be dating like that. It was a real friendship that we knew wasn't going to be anything more than that, and we liked having sex and going out on occasion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:47 PM |
| -1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenGiven how many women delay marriage, would you say that they even want to be married? It just seems like people behave better when it's just dates, sex, and friendship. It's like when it gets to LTR stage the script shifts and all of sudden you got chore play and dead bedrooms after 15 years. Meanwhile all the FWBs I've seen that go on for years seem pretty stable. No one has to change careers when the other moves. Basically no compromise. Where is the negative? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:33 PM |
| 5 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenHmm interesting theory. I guess it depends but man the amounts of DINKs I see in the city I live in is surprising. Their mid 30s, great jobs but claim they can't afford kids. I'll never understand it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:30 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenMy last FWB was with a single mom who was older. It was freaking awesome for both. She was busy career lady with a kid and I was busy with my life so we saw each other maybe once a week, if that. When we needed to see each other we did. I could see her getting attached but she knew it would never lead to marriage because logistically it didn't make sense. We both liked each other and went on "dates". But we weren't BF/GF or expected anything more. I think for the modern career woman who doesn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:28 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenYeah maybe what I'm describing is more like a relationship just with lots of boundaries. That's what my last FWB felt like and it was awesome. I guess I'm trying to destigmatize these types of relationship because people have told me to "grow up" because I prefer this and don't want their traditional relationships and all their problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:24 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenWhen you're friends with someone who cares about your pleasure as well, it's no just mechanical. In my last FWB, we treated sex like we actually liked each other. In most marriages I know it ain't like that at all esp once you start living together and seeing each other everyday | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:21 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenWhat do they do about wanting other people? Or when the magic of living together wears off? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:18 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and women"Top men" what does that even mean? Women love men for many reasons. And after you start having sex women generally aren't gonna start sleeping around. Hypergamy is probably more prevalent in marriages where each feels trapped by tradition and the taboo of cheating makes it very tempting to do so. Ive talked with people who cheated and they always said to me it was mainly the taboo of the situation and the stress of the relationship at home (kids, finances etc). Once they were caught the cheatin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:17 PM |
| 4 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI don't constantly shift between friends. I think it can work. Esp for DINK crowd. Actually that's what a lot of older people do when they get divorced. Some remarry but that's just the traditional programming and the desire to do the whole wedding etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:12 PM |
| 0 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFWB can be pretty monogamous. Actually that's kinda the point in some ways. I liked it because I was too busy to date, she was also but we got along great but we weren't about to move in etc. We liked our space and different travel schedules | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:10 PM |
| -3 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenFriendship with benefits is a relationship though. I'm not talking about non-committal situation ships. I'm talking about relationship without moving in together. Basically think of your best friend you're not married to and don't get jealous or fight over stupid ahit with. But you get to sleep with them too. That's what I'm talking about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:07 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI agree the sleeping around gets old. But I meant friends with benefits with an emphasis on "Friends". It's like having a friend you enjoy hanging out with but with enough boundaries and equality that allows both people to feel free to explore if they feel the need. I had an FWB that I enjoyed. She was a single mom who was older so I knew we'd never get married. I was busy with my hobbies etc so when we got together it was all fun, no headaches. Same for her. I think with modern technology we wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:05 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenPeople want to deal with in-law dynamics? Or nag their husband? Or fight about finances. Besides the traditions and the romanticization, why do we still need marriage at all? Given how many people get divorced I'd argue this is an indication that we're do for an evolution away from the old way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:00 PM |
| 2 | Why its important for men to have female friendsYeah it's a type of casual relationship. Its a friendship with benefits. It's not dating because at the end we knew (or at least I knew) it would never go anywhere beyond that. Which is pretty much all the good stuff without any of the bad stuff. Only thing is you don't have to deal with In-laws or jealousy. You see each other infrequently enough for it to stay fun but because you're friends you can nerd out about the same hobbies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 11:30 AM |
| 4 | Why its important for men to have female friendsHence why it's awesome! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 11:23 AM |
| 1 | Passport bros are actually hurting western men’s reputation in some countriesPassport bros are the men we would have sent to go die in the battlefield. It's not surprising they are out there being reckless | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 06:00 AM |
| 3 | Why its important for men to have female friendsI didn't say that lol. I had a couple gay friends I used to hang out with. It's possible but if they are attracted to you it makes it odd when they get drunk and start hitting on you. I see the value of having female friends. I've just never seen it outside the context of a group. Would I sleep over at my male friends house? Yes. Would I do that with a female I'm not dating? No. I think the test is if you're both married and are just friends, then it should be ok for both of you to go on a solo … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:59 AM |
| -1 | Do men and society even need women (besides reproduction)?But do you NEED intimacy and romance? Or is that just conditioning? Maybe that's the real red pill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:46 AM |
| 0 | Do men and society even need women (besides reproduction)?Artificial wombs and artificial gametes are on their way in next 100 years so this whole gender war will be over. Boss girl modern feminist who thinks a man making less than her is beneath her can now just create her own baby and scratch that maternal itch. Broke incel who refuses to self improve or change to accomodate women can now also reproduce and scratch that paternal itch. Technology will make single parenting very easy so that both people can stop whining about why the opposite gender is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:38 AM |
| 1 | Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevantYou seem really interested in this guy. What did you see in him? I think some of the uncles might find some hope in this because this guy basically sounds like an incel but you're interested in him nonetheless. How'd you meet this dashing gent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:37 AM |
| 3 | Why its important for men to have female friendsThey aren't all attracted to each others. I used to hangout with some gay friends. It's possible but personally I've seen it where they were all basically a poly relationship that looked like just friends. In my experience FWB really only works in group dynamic or as acquaintances. But 1 on 1 and having sleepovers and going out like just friends? That I've never seen workout. I mean why would it make sense that two attractive people who are young and have functional sex drives who get along well… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:34 AM |
| -2 | Why its important for men to have female friendsIt really isn't. At least in the ethical framework. There are some people (im guilty of this) who lead a lady on to keep the FWB dynamic going. But it's just better. You can vulnerable without all the nagging and headaches of marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:28 AM |
| 4 | People in PPD, what would you like to change with regards to modern dating and relationships?Id like romance to be like the movies. Meet a girl and marry her without the headaches and nagging. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:25 AM |
| -2 | People in PPD, what would you like to change with regards to modern dating and relationships?I think the point is that some women can be extremely judgemental and then come out and scream "where are all the good men" which is then why people try to dunk on them for their ridiculous requirements. People are entitled to reject whoever, and people are also entitled to look at the reasons for rejection as silly. And even more importantly, people are allowed to dunk on women (and men) with silly hypocritical dating standards. We live in a society. Part of that contract is a shared sense of n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:24 AM |
| -2 | People in PPD, what would you like to change with regards to modern dating and relationships?The red pill approach is definitely more successful than the weak fake nice guy BS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:15 AM |
| 2 | People in PPD, what would you like to change with regards to modern dating and relationships?If they want an average man, then that means ANY man can have her. Why is that a victory? It just means that during sex she could just as easily fantasize about another man. Lowering her standards just means now you have more competition | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:12 AM |
| 5 | Opinion on a woman saying she'll take anyone at this point ?It's fine most people aren't virtuous or think that deeply about their value system | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevantWell good on you i was kinda worried reading that. I always assumed women wouldn't date a guy like that. Sounds like y'all would make good friends at the very least | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:07 AM |
| 1 | Why people overestimate how difficult is for women to get commitment ?"Where have all the good men gone" in online spaces creates this perspective. Also the amount of single women who are unmarried really hammer this point home with the assumption that women want marriage and kids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:04 AM |
| 3 | Why its important for men to have female friendsThat "tension" is the fuel for affairs. That "friend" you can't have but you're attracted to, I've seen relationships ruined by that coworker who is "just a friend". That's not to say it's not possible to fight against biological urges, but it's not a practical strategy for most people. In theory it sounds awesome and it's usually fine for a few months. Hell ive seen guys wait YEARS for a shot at that girl friend. I don't see many examples where it works outside of a group dynamic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:59 AM |
| 4 | Why its important for men to have female friendsFWB is the way! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:52 AM |
| 2 | Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevantThis is very true. The chivalry is a front for "nice guys". It's weak and pathetic. I had my nice guy phase until I realized deep down it was just weakness...then I entered a player phase and was surprised to find women will go out of their way to pay for dates esp after the sexual phase begins and the hormones get all fired up. I wish guys would kill the nice guy act and just be real with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:43 AM |
| 0 | Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevantSomeone read Nietzsche. Very grounded and practical. My only question is where is the "love" in any of that? Seems very utilitarian. That's why I argue FWB is a better dynamic. More honest than that pretend "I love you" non-sense they say at the altar | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevantYou waited 45 mins? As a reformed playboy, I will tell you that's manipulative behavior on his part. Not in the evil sense, but in the sense that it's effective. I've definitely used these tactics to bed many women in the past. And Id reach back out just for sex but I'd coat it in the language of someone who wants to "reconnect". If you waited 45 mins I can already tell dude knew exactly what to say to keep you there. This is why FWB works better. It's more honest and both parties actually treat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:32 AM |
| 1 | Acts of Chivalry like paying for the date are from a bygone era and aren’t relevantI've basically come the conclusion both men and women would benefit from getting rid of gender completely. It's all very antiquated. Marriage being the last bastion. FWB is the more reasonable relationship for adults. I have friends who I've known for 20+ years and I'm not about to marry them, but for some reason we normalized marrying people we know for maybe a few years. It makes no sense at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:19 AM |
| 3 | What do people who date/marry out of their league do?Yeah those friends are optimizing for the dopamine hit of the brief orgasm they might have with a "Baddie" who will probably be annoying AF. Nothing wrong with it but it gets boring to detrimental pretty quickly. Don't get me wrong life is slightly more free as a perpetual bachelor but you're then wasting time you could have spent raising kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 09:54 AM |
| 4 | What do people who date/marry out of their league do?Social skills abstracts almost all of this strategy away. People like being around sociable people. A better way to reframe it is think of it from utility standpoint. A good looking loner is useless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 07:40 AM |
| 17 | What does PPD make of this "soft guy era"? Drizzle DrizzleIt's just comedy. Social media has replaced the traditional entertainment where we all sit down and watch the corporate approved comedians/entertainers. Don't overthink it. I've seen this with self-proclained MGTOWs hoping to see women change. News flash...they won't | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 04:41 AM |
| 1 | It can be liberating to realize that there are both men and women who are losers in this game.Yeah in those cases those women are a bit immature. Id say to those women they need to make peace with their choices and think ahead of time moving forward. I used to enjoy laughing at women who acted like that, but the more I thought about it, the more I have compassion for them. We are all a victim of the culture we grew up in. As much as the beta-nerd with no game is a result of how he grew up, so is the entitled feminist who comes to an epiphany in their mid 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 04:34 AM |
| 1 | It can be liberating to realize that there are both men and women who are losers in this game.It is a cynical take on human nature. Their solution is to become the 5% which is basically conceding defeat to most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:34 AM |
| 2 | Is the real threat to women in the dating market the trauma dumping AI?And the same goes for women. Everyone wins! Why is it so tempting for this sub to always try to assume AI is gonna save just the male loners? Women LOVE talking. Who is gonna benefit from this more? In this "competition" it's gonna be the ladies sorry to break it to you. Esp with this crowd who are terrified of approaching women or are just bad at listening, an AI is gonna replace y'all so quick. Not to mention AI generated Literotica. So she doesn't even need to put up with mediocre sex skills … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 10:22 AM |
| 1 | It can be liberating to realize that there are both men and women who are losers in this game.This. People don't play the game and wonder why they get no results. Or they didn't even really try that hard | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 10:17 AM |
| 1 | It can be liberating to realize that there are both men and women who are losers in this game.Their fault for not being attracted to their partners? When they "settle" that is also a crime right? So what would you have them do? Brainwash themselves into being attracted to someone they aren't attracted to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 10:16 AM |
| 1 | It can be liberating to realize that there are both men and women who are losers in this game.I think there is some truth to that statement. I think our social media culture creates envy and many people are always looking for better and do the comparison thing. I've only seen this not happen with marriages tied to religion or very strong communities. In many secular marriages it's just too easy to feel like better is right around the corner after the honeymoon phase runs out. People change and most people arent well versed in psychology to check their own impulses. Hence all the cheating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 10:14 AM |
| 0 | It can be liberating to realize that there are both men and women who are losers in this game.That is the goal. The diamond in the rough for you. The one that people scratch their heads but you see as a catch. A worthy goal to strive for. Not easy but easy isn't fun. I think in this sub people make sexual relationships and coupling some sort of necessity, hence all the entitlement and anger that it's hard to find a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 10:11 AM |
| 0 | It can be liberating to realize that there are both men and women who are losers in this game.I might push back. I think many people experience a nagging wife or a husband that annoys them. And dead bedrooms are fairly common phenomenon. Esp after you have kids. Attraction does wane and eyes wander. So it's not hard to believe that many marriages suffer, esp in western secular culture where religion isn't there to help force people to work it out. Cheating and divorce rates are at the highest levels we've ever seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 10:09 AM |
| 1 | It can be liberating to realize that there are both men and women who are losers in this game.This. I don't know why men still get confused on this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 10:05 AM |
| -1 | It can be liberating to realize that there are both men and women who are losers in this game.It's no one's fault. That's the problem with this community. A lot of y'all assume if you were born female you'd happily settle, when odds are that you would act like all the women you seem to have anger towards. If your female siblings and family members act the way you claim, then you would be just like them. So trying to now blame this on women like it's something they can choose is a silly position to take. And hypocritical | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 10:03 AM |
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