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We form social hierarchies in many ways, and are often inauthentic with what we think and feel. What we outwardly show gives these people false confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:16 PM
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Don't ask me, google it yourself "Number of male competitors by height". Look at 170 cm. This is objectively measured who women went on second dates with. That's who she, well, chose. Not who she said she would date again. Who she actually did. It puts you at 3 other competitors by height alone. This is 6 times more competition than a man who is 6'3. So it's 6 times harder for you to land a girl at 5'7 Also if you are Asian, 50 percent of Asian women go for white men. Another kick in the nuts fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:02 PM
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Women like eroticism (measured with fmri), rape is different
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 06:09 AM
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It's not supposed to be taken literally. What we do see from women's mating habits, and this is objective, is that women care about these traits when selecting for a partner. See Norman li's work on the necessities and luxuries model. He has even measured how this differs geographically. So its true. Because women statistically select for men who are like that and those men indeed get treated better and receive more sexual stimulation. As they are the ones being selected for in the dating market…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:12 PM
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That's what brene browns says, the expert of vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:25 PM
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Men care about paternity certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:24 PM
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Women do have a lot of shame. It def affects their ability to get aroused Women who learn to move past this are absolutely as asexual as men. What even is this post lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:10 PM
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It's also a movie and he fucked his secretary. I don't know why you think it's anything other than a movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 05:13 PM
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Good men want good women, not vain ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 05:22 AM
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Just buy the cofounders book called dataclysm. He has a graph of messages received by attractiveness percentile
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:04 PM
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Harvey specter went for his secretary that's as red pill as you can get. My partner's dad went for his secretary too. I just don't agree as someone in that position myself. Had the hr executive of the company been there since 4 people f u money girl touch me in the elevator. Your just not correct
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:52 PM
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The idea that you must become attractive is also a social concept not everyone learns. So statistically it's likely that those who pursue beauty are looking to influence others. It's called projection. Every person I knew who focused on their attractiveness was a bad person. Except women will only date men who focus on their appearance, so they date the worst men for them... Because the good ones never learned (naive) or never played. There's good and bad in both camps.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:55 PM
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Alpha always fucks. Are you saying he's beta after you just said he was alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:37 PM
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Don't let women gaslight you lol. It's not okay behavior. They just want to be able to go find someone better. Or seek validation from random men outside their relationship. Like real life social media. Certainly select for it before you get into a relationship. It's why body count matters. Find a girl who never went to the club scene anyway. Who never had those opportunities to make bad decisions. Because they knew better than to engage in low value behavior in the first place. I have a boundar…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:58 PM
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Which is my point. You are being a bad partner by not making it the reality yourself. It's entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:55 PM
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I objectively pointed out your fallacious argument and you just flipped the script and said I was dodging. I never said those words, you assumed them. For context I know absolutely everything about sex and arousal. I am a gentleman and I make sure my girl always comes first. Do you need some sort of ego boost through believing I'm not good at sex or something ? You are just validating and supporting the red pill with your personal experiences and somehow believe I don't believe in the red pill i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:47 PM
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What makes you think that? Are you conflating PUA tactics with the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:44 PM
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Saying I said something doesn't make it true. You are projecting your own dodging. It's embarassing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:39 PM
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Again not my theory? You made that up. The red pill has an entire pillar which is be good at sex. Why do you think I feel otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:36 PM
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They look like scrawny ass coomers dude no girl wants to get plowed by a scrawny ass coomers. Anyone can lift bro I knew the most genetically scrawny nerd go to plow poon status. I don't agree there is nothing that can be done for most people. I could honestly point to any image of someone and tell them objectively what they are doing objectively wrong in regards to SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:11 PM
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Where did you get I support being bad at sex? In fact I am very clearly red pilled where "game" is an entire pillar of. Obviously I know being able to plow poon matters? That's what was manipulative. You invented something in your mind that I did not say and then did what's called putting words in my mouth. Pretty disgusting low value behavior tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:17 PM
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No? Why would they say that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:16 PM
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I never said that. Very manipulative thing to say
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:08 PM
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You selected for men other women selected for. And followed the pattern of mating by SMV and the 80 20 rule. Yet you say pills are dumb but your own actions rhyme
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:07 PM
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So he's the one who did get it, exactly as everyone here says. You can't make this shit up hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:59 PM
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What a manipulative and disgusting thing to say
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:57 PM
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Which gives credence to why men say look for a low count woman. You have higher standards. It goes bad for a little while and you bounce. Rather than be a leader and one identify where it is going wrong and two take action to fix it you instead just end it. Teaching is the hard way and this is how relationships are maintained. Both parties being willing to lead. Lower n count women with less experience are simply more hopeful and willing to see what happens. They're less entitled in this regard.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:46 PM
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Yes you are right. Maybe later into a relationship. There isn't even a distinction between fake it vs not fake it. How you learned it agreed hardly matters. So you nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:34 PM
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In the case of virgin past a certain age you have to lie. I was a late bloomer because being a little chubby (was never fat) means you are undateable in this culture. When I did date and got engagement I had several women reject me and none accept me. Once I became Chad and didn't mention it, two women slept with me and one became my LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:49 PM
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They aren't the same because it's socially acceptable for women to pretty themselves. If you pulled a fast one and we're shorter women would just feel disgusted. Lied to. And that you were trying to cheat them. It's the same reason why women don't like the red pill, because it teaches non Chad's how to become Chad which isn't natural. They want the winners who won without a guide
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:47 PM
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I went from 0 dates over 10 years to 8 first dates with 8 different women within a two weeks period after updating my photos. And I lost my virginity. And women were throwing themselves at me. You are wrong dude
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 01:18 PM
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You don't know what the red pill is if that is your argument
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 11:53 PM
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Yes men who say men do not shame women are wrong. Also women shame women a lot for this. Probably more than men do. But my point is that those men weren't originally wrong with where their shame came from. I feel that women feeling shame here is a good thing. That healthy amount of shame is what made grandma take time to select and good partner. Now you have women who give themselves freely and then say men are all shit. Sorry honey, but you choose who you let creampie you, it's actually your fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:59 PM
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I feel you misinterpreted their conversation. Body count objectively matters. Women should feel shame. Of course men shame women for body count, and they especially should because we can demonstrate it does matter objectively and to a very very large degree. There's nothing wrong with shame in the first place. Maybe if these women didn't want to be shamed they shouldn't have let themselves be used by Chad daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:40 PM
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No I'm talking about your first paragraph very clearly. Stop gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:27 PM
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They're not gaslighting, you are
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:19 PM
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Uh you are doing the gaslighting. There is actually social science research to back up why they believe body counts matter. A lot of it actually
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:48 PM
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Point to the personal attack
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:40 PM
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So you don't understand anything yet are making claims??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:39 PM
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Being attractive leads to orgasmicity. It creates desire and subsequently what we observe is attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:42 PM
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You are looking at partnered adults, which skews the metrics. Consider that lets say 60 years of those adults in the pool had no apps. And 10 years have. Everyone loves to 90. Bear with me. Is 10 percent of all 70 years of coupling contributed only after 10 years not significant?? That's actually like 80 percent of all new relationships when you do the inverse math lol. Almost 60 percent of all new relationships start online (from my recent study). You can't look at the total to minimize
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:57 PM
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No, it's actually the other way around. Meeting online is more common now
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:49 PM
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Wholeheartedly agreed. When you know, you know. Given an advanced understanding of human behavior you are able to detect these behaviors and form your own conclusions on the relevancy or accuracy. The issue with the red pill is that it validates itself. It is accurate. It's scarily accurate. This just reinforces those who follow it. It becomes a justice thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:42 PM
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This is a proverbial rulebook called "the game". We all play it. Those who naturally succeed just had an environment where they learned the rules of the game before everyone else. You are right inflexible people double down. But you forget that one could be inflexible but playing the right game and happened to learn it in the beginning. The system rewards those who play it, measuredly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:32 PM
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No hookups are a subset of short term dating, but any ape with critical thinking can understand that doesn't matter. It's not a distinction that's important, and by definition hookups being a subset of the set of short term makes you wrong. You asked who talked about hook up and Chad, and the answer is hookups is part of short term. Look you were just silly and pedantic. Own it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:29 PM
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Short term dating is hookups what the fuck is wrong with you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:04 PM
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It's not that these people aren't participating in the game, it's that they are playing the game without the rule book. There is nothing wrong with discussing the rulebook. Everyone is playing the game even if they feel they aren't. If they are successful they just got taught the game through other means. That doesn't mean we shouldn't teach people because others learned naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:02 PM
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Dating apps are female centric at lower percentiles and male centric at higher percentiles. Because women have power over unattractive males and attractive males have power over all women. So women treat unatractive men according to their value and make them jump through hoops (highest bidder) but as soon as Chad blows by there are no hoops. My experience after becoming Chad was this. Prior - repeated ghosting, date reschedules, cancels, saying no to a date after a month of chit chatting. To: ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:00 PM
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Demonstrably women only like men in the top 15 percentile because dating app data shows that is the only men they interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:55 PM
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The post is about women and short term mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:51 PM
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They don't need to fuck a bunch of Chad's to realize that Chad didn't get to Chad status by being a good partner
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:27 PM
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Ok nice girl
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:30 PM
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You are looking for the word leadership, not kind. Masculinity is learning to be a leader and lead. Leaders are not hate filled. They identify gaps and raise others up. They choose to do what's hard (raise) not what's easy (complain, bring down).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:16 AM
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Yep actions vs words.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:07 PM
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Which gives credence to the idea that women go for that, as both parties understood the dynamic enough to joke about it. Its literally just banter to them. My partner's half sister just went to an expensive foreign private school. When I learned she was going from her mom we were joking around and I casually mentioned oh she can go find a nice rich guy. She laughed. She said she always told her to go find some hot hockey player (Canadian). Guess what? She found a hot rich guy and now she's movin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:31 PM
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Being without sex and wanting sexual access is simply a big priority, not the only priority. Think about it. If you could never have sex with anyone ever, wouldn't you want it too?? It's not like these people don't want connection and a relationship as well. It's just that someone starving is obviously hungry lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:25 PM
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Oh never I'm a complete gentleman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:17 PM
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I had several women tell me looks didn't matter, not date me I became Chad and two of them started inviting me on 1:1 dates after giving me bad advice. So manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:56 PM
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I was like a 5 but a bit chubby. I became a 8.5 0 dates over 5 years to 8 first dates with 8 diff women after updating my photos. All scheduled within the first two weeks. Lots of dates after the drought.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:11 AM
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One quarter of women are the sexual persuers. You don't need to be okay with your partner not liking sex. It's on you to be the best you can be and make your girl cum every time. It's part of the game pillar of the red pill. You better be able to plow poon
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:00 PM
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Consider what will happen when quality of life is threatened due to the inevitable societal collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:16 PM
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The issue is that if we look at the data like messages received by attractiveness percentile, it says almost all women are only interacting with men in the top 10 percentile. Those aren't average men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:55 PM
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Was so hot this morning when she rolled over and started masturbating. With one hand on my cock. Then she completely drained me. Ugh what a load off
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:51 PM
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I have an excellent attitude, and have a lot of self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:04 PM
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You wouldn't say gross if you knew the life I have made for myself that she gets to take part in 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:25 AM
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How odd. She has an amazing life and I am an amazing partner capable of giving her everything she ever dreamed of. She treats me in kind. Basically, I don't let her be the table. I know my value. She knows my value. She treats me according to my value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:24 AM
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No the advice it's your turn is to emotionally detach from outcomes and focus on what is in your control. Which is your behaviors and your mindset. Which improves likelihood of your relationship succeeding. In the psychology world this relates to projection. If you worry about losing your partner you tend to act out in ways that make that a reality. It's common with projection to create what you are insecure about. This mindset avoids that. It's really good advice. People misattribute it to be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:30 PM
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I believe that way and I have a partner. I am the best she can get and she knows it. If she ruins her relationship with me she gives up a good life and she knows that. So I can expect king treatment from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:28 PM
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But that doesn't change DNA evidence shows an average of 7 years and women rate men 3-4 years older most attractive. High but going down can still be high...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:26 PM
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The average age gap measured by DNA is 7 years. So ya 3 is really low.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:26 PM
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Women compete indirectly like this. Men competing in this way appeals to hypergamy because you compete with women in the ways women compete. It shows social prowess, awareness, and competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:22 PM
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Honestly if it's too good to be true then it is. You got 5s getting plowed by a 10. How about not being naive?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:18 PM
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You are wayyyyy off base girl. It's 30 percent of men under 30 are virgins. In the demographic of 18 to 35 there are 107 men to every 100 women. 65 percent of men in this age range are single. 27 percent of women. As we get to older ages yes people are paring up, but your take completely disregards half of peoples lived life experiences when you just look at the finish line, where men die younger leading to a more even balance and women finally finish the hypergamy associative mating cycle and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:16 PM
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It's important to not confuse generalizations with stereotypes. Generalizations which are based in statistical fact across a population aren't wrong. It's not ok to dismiss the facts under the false veil that it's a stereotype, because it isn't, it's measured.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:02 PM
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It's actual message is don't let her affect you mentally. How attractive you are is in your control, and if she left she lost attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:00 PM
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You are talking about the process of emasculation. Emasculated men have no power. Masculine men have all the power. My poon wakes me up with a blow job. Fucks me, then begs me for my cum in the morning. Then she cooks me breakfast.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:49 PM
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The red pill is about optimism. You learn what is attractive and then change yourself to fit what you think will find you the most success. It's about growth. Chances of success being zero is black pill. Stop attributing black pill ideas to red pill ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:16 PM
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When you talk with women they tell you everything you need to know. To spot it you need to understand things like projection and other tells like body language. Once you understand those things you know "your not my type" is "I'm not attracted to you"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:26 PM
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You literally stood for looks and game. That's 2/3 the red pill. Let me guess you think status matters too? 3/3 dude Bro your personality didn't change, your still beta, you won't even say what you are lmao. You just don't wanna be judged. It's funny because what you are saying you don't agree with red pill wise is what red pill adjacent individuals say, not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:42 PM
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Purple?? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:04 PM
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So would be the same. I became Chad and women treated me like Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:33 PM
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Yes well as a FAANG engineer who was working in AI cancer detection at research, couldn't get a girl out for coffee for 5 years till I got muscular. They're just shallow and you would be too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:22 PM
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Hey man I used to be this way. I found that a few books really helped. The art of conversation, models, open her. Also the book attached is top tier for this. Really it was about learning some fundamentals that our society doesn't really teach for me. Once I learned them things were much easier as I had an understanding and thus wasn't anxious anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 08:17 PM
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It gets dismissed because it's an argumentative fallacy. It's called changing the topic. We can absolutely talk about women's behaviors as women's behaviors even if men exhibit them too. No one here is gonna buy that grade school debate tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 07:40 PM
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Okay but we can measure those who get dates and those who don't. And measuredly men who are really short have multitudes more competition for the same woman. So with that proven what is the point of you commenting again? Are you just trying to project being naive or something
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:46 AM
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Have you looked at the data? A 5'5 man should be triggered because he has 120x the competition as a man 6'1. On average a man 6'1 to 6'3 has 0.5 other competitors. So you have these incredibly ignorant fuckwad tall douchebags projecting their experience and saying short kings shouldn't be mad. Fyi I'm 6'1. I still feel bad for the short king because objectively the data says I should. This is why blue pill morons get no traction. You are just naive and everyone knowledgable sees it and gets mad …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:52 AM
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Them getting triggered doesn't make what the men said wrong. It's okay for them to be triggered. What about the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 08:36 PM
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It's actually you who needs to recognize that they can be valid and shallow. It's important NOT to stop discussion about them too. Because if they are valid why would you care about stopping the discussion about it? This is where we go wrong. Guy a says women are like B. b is true, women get mad. The guy ain't wrong soooo
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 06:39 PM
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Basically it's women getting offended about hearing about their actual behaviors. They straight DARVO to put it onto men. They protect themselves by invalidating the men pointing out their actual behaviors. Men are allowed to vent frustrations about their mating habits. They can be valid and frustrating. Valid and shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 06:37 PM
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The issue is that criticism is felt like as an attack, so their message is lost. If the criticism is true and backed by data, then the person getting offended is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 08:42 PM
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Women's actions speak for themselves p
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:00 PM
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It kind of shows how dumb they are lol They rode the cock carousel to get to 35 and still want to ride it to relive the good ol' days. I feel bad for a woman like this because she will always be unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:52 PM
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You can read Norman li's necessities and luxuries model to piece together which attributes women value. You can compare say physical attractiveness, income, and other personality traits and how they relate to another. By race, and for short term and long term mating. The traits women value do not match the traits men value. When we look at men and women's behavior across our population, we see what traits they each value. You could say men are hypergamous for attractiveness for instance. As they…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:02 AM
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https://jhr.uwpress.org/content/58/1/260 Also the introduction references a few other studies I talked about, namely the long term associative (assortative - they mean the same thing, despite being rarely used big words, in this context the equal matching is called either associative or assortative). References many studies demonstrating hypergamy and this was the first google result... Quite : "However, there is also a literature pointing toward gender asymmetries in mating patterns, such that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:50 AM
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Leagues do exist because mate selection studies found they do. Women always try to mate up and across social hierarchies and when they fail to satisfy their hypergamy they mate associatively. This happens when their environment doesn't meet their hypergamy. It's called the associative hypergamy mating cycle. We as a species tend to end up with equals. It's not negotiable. You have a really naive take
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:24 AM
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A vast majority of men are single and you think they should shut up and deal with trauma from a girl they never dated in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:52 AM
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Hey man if you want to know looks vs status just read Norman li's necessities and luxuries model, and then go read his work on East Asian women vs western women. He measured how much women in each region care about looks and status individually (in fact he categorized a lot of attributes and weighed them relative to eachother) It's all been measured, you don't need to make a post about nor even discuss it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:51 AM
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Men are expected to lead relationships. Women date an experienced man and get led on the rollercoaster of love. Then these men take it away and they feel cheated. They're just stupid because that man learned the skill of creating the roller coaster. These dumb women then chase that high, with men who don't know how to create that roller coaster getting discarded and then repeatedly picking the same men who know the game who keep hurting them. These women would not get hurt if they stopped going …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:43 AM
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Not only no whining, but she assumes blame. Basically she invents blame in her mind, then flips it into men as men blaming women when sharing their experiences. This is why men cannot be vulnerable because their weakness is attacked. She is unaware that she is acting like an NPC.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:40 AM
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Men complaining is men being vulnerable, and she is icked out by men's vulnerability. It causes her to feel disgusted so she acts according to the NPC programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:38 AM
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These women not having any accountability for their own actions and behaviors is a joke. Yes the rapist is obviously at fault but these women are accountable for keeping themselves safe too. We do not live in a perfect society and how the world should work and how it does work differs. It is naive and ignorant to remove women's accountability. They can absolutely prevent their own hurt by avoiding these situations entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:04 AM
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No they just have more precedent for cluster b personality disorders, due to the increase in neuroticism in their personality matrix
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:40 AM
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It doesn't matter because 400 stories out of millions means nothing. You are using a hasty generalization fallacy, or small sample fallacy. No one here is buying that garbage argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:39 AM
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To rational well adjusted people To men who aren't and used to taking advantage of hookers it is. We live in a society you can't make up how it works in your head and project that onto others. We live in a reality where you will be treated based off how you dress. Scantily clad sluts get treated like Pattaya hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:27 AM
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They have 400 self reports. It's meaningless data and you are coming to a very biased conclusion because the way it's presented is biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:25 AM
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Okay so 400 stories out of millions of sexual assaults. I bet a 400 lb land whale got SAd but I guess according to your logic you shouldn't be a fat woman or you will get assaulted
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:21 AM
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Yeah rejig your brain and re read the thread. The only fucked up thing here is the take you just wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:20 AM
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Or dating gurus will thrive because they give good advice, regardless of women?? Like it's a free market
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:41 AM
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Okay but not relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:38 AM
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Yes they were. Fish nets. Stockings. Frequently complained about getting cat called and harassed. They attracted low value men with their low value appearance and got the expected result. Honestly I went to Thailand and the women running the massage parlors dressed more elegantly and classy than the girls these days 🥂🥂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:38 AM
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What an ignorant and fallacious article. Trends and statistics matter despite one example of a woman in a burka getting raped
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:37 AM
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Your logic is flawed. You are what you attract. If you attract the vile low life's of our society reflect on why Grandma knew that class and elegance mattered. Young women have traded that for looking like a hooker on a street corner. Yes, hookers on street corners attract attention from men who like hookers on street corners. Low emotional intelligence men are like that. By dressing like a prostitute you select for men like that. It's how our society works and women who dress like prostitures a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:35 AM
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Truth hurts. You are what you attract. If you attract the vile low end of society, perhaps reflect on how you present yourself 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:32 AM
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They dressed like prostitutes and we're so independent they forgot the world they lived in
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:20 PM
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The girls I know who got SAd were no surprise
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:08 PM
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There is nothing wrong with generalizations. You are confusing generalizations with stereotypes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:07 PM
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Neither of those things are true. If you don't cross a looks threshold you can't attract women, so the gym helps you cross that. Secondly nothing about having money turns you into a betabux.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:49 PM
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Where in looks status game does it say have a high n count The data is the red pill. That's the objective truth of our reality. N count matters stop making it about men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:20 AM
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Most of their content is free on YouTube... You don't need to pay anything??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 01:43 AM
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I didn't because you used a tactic called changing the topic to invalidate what I said, and I don't fall for that manipulative BS
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 12:34 AM
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Huh? Please do not flip the script. It's manipulative. Point to the defensiveness. I answered your question. Are you aware of gendered communication styles?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:37 PM
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Neither of who you mentioned have that mindset. Hamza is self improvement optimism and stoicism like classic red pill. He doesn't usually stray into the Rollo territory. Wheat waffles is the definition of black pill. So he just says this is how it is and there is nothing you can do aboit it. Here is my research experimentally to back it up. It feels like you assumed a whole lot about what is in these individuals content.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:03 PM
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Their advice is getting men out as they teach how the game is played. No one wants to be alone and without intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:00 PM
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Have you seen their content? Wheat waffles content was mostly interview content with women. He just showed women's preferences with data and graphs from what he found out while interviewing. So you are saying womens actually demonstrated and shown preferences as bad content for guys? Hamza is like a get out of the basement you Vidya nerd women are looking for men with x attributes and it's almost all good advice. He has a lot of psychology content which is accurate. Like a lot of what they say i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 10:55 PM
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It's ambiguous and unstated, we are talking about women's body count why are you making it about men? There are many studies that justify this view from men's perspective. For instance divorce rate by body count, marriage happiness by body count. There is disparity between men and women in these measurements, so men aren't wrong for believing this. The point is that for a man selecting a woman it matters. Do you think all red pill men are high body count or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 10:51 PM
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This mid girl I grew up with, had 999+ maxed on hinge. She has only just started. She wanted to try all the ice cream flavors 🤦‍♀️ while friendzoning her ex of 10 years she used to buy two mortgages, Grinded his life for those houses and fixing them up. When I became Chad she even had the audacity to ask me out on 1:1 dates after i dated a friend of hers (whom slid into my dms)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 10:48 PM
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It's actually just a form of peacoking. It's called the foreigner effect. Lots of women will just date a foreigner. They don't have the same perception for SMV with a different race, and the foreigners are seen as a status symbol. It's the novelty. Also genetic diversity. Foreigners are more successful dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:08 PM
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Their advice is actually really good and works well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 08:56 PM
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These influencers are successful because their advice works
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 08:56 PM
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When you learn all the forms of emotional abuse, social manipulation, ya, they really are just a bunch of mean girls. It's impossible to turn off this perception once you know what poor behavior is. Men are wayyyyy different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:40 PM
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Heard of oxytocin??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:35 PM
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Why do you think TRP doesn't claim women don't want to date men they aren't attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:33 PM
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If we didn't have laws she would be 6ft under. That's your answer
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:27 PM
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This ain't some. It's the whole. We are talking about high body count women in a thread about high body count women. It's absolutely completely reasonable to judge them in their actions
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:01 PM
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Sorry no one wants a bimbo who was stupid, went around floundering her youth getting plowed by douche bags who didn't even like her. The reason why men select for it, is because lower body count shows intelligence and self respect. Restraint is a very valuable trait. Meanwhile bimbos with high N counts demonstrate fleeting low value behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:00 PM
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It never was lift and nothing. It was always looks status game. Status covers your entire career and position in society and game is all of your social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 08:14 PM
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Chad with status and money is just more Chad than other Chad's
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:29 PM
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Ok keep applying the behaviors of a small subset of men on the whole. Men with infinite sexual access, given to them by women, act the part. More news at 11. Perhaps if women didn't throw their vaginas at them then they would treat women better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:13 PM
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Bro my experience as well. My cousin was plowing like 3 girls a week. They'd just throw themselves at him. I went to the most expensive restaurant in town and the hostess asked if I knew him. That's how much he got around. Meanwhile I couldn't get a girl out for coffee. Just a little bit chubby. For years. Well I got muscular like him and no joke - after 5 years of not being able to get a girl out for coffee I had 8 first dates with 8 different women within two weeks of updating my photos. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:18 PM
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The only men who get messages on apps are the top 10 percentile. So you are applying behaviors of a small subset of the population on all men. Top ten percentile men can cheat with higher frequency because women throw their vaginas at them. Just today we had a girl bring a friend to softball. Guess what? She's there in my side flirting with me with my partner right there. Orbitted me the entire time. I'd catch her eye fucking me when I was playing. You ladies do this to yourselves. Maybe if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:12 AM
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Miserable, sexless, boundaryless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:09 AM
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You are talking about codependency. Just teach her what codependent behaviors are and set boundaries. Women tend to get into victim mindsets. It's a bit of learned helplessness and vulnerable narcissist behaviors. Basically they learned from a young age that they could play the victim and someone would save them. It's inherited family trauma. This is in your control to fix and it is your responsibility as a man. You need to lead with vulnerability and set boundaries. But do so caringly. Demonstr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:57 PM
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The difference people are failing to understand is where the black pill differs. They believe that genetics are the only thing that matters. And your looks matter objectively as the only thing that matters. They believe you cannot change your genetics. It's a pessimistic mindset. It's not negotiable that height matters. Red pill or black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 07:05 AM
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Ok so now focus on game Read models, open her, the art of conversation, you are not listening, and attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:50 PM
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Did you get muscular? Are you a little fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 02:35 PM
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Ok let me see if I got where you are coming from correct. Are you saying that because there is free will that our biological programming doesn't really matter? Because we can choose to overcome it? I'd like to challenge that because what do you think the statistics are of you being consciously aware of all of your behaviors to influence them across all decisions you make. Sure sometimes you might be self aware and choose otherwise, but how often are you just going with it? We can measure how we …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:04 PM
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Hence the red pill game pillar. Gotta be attractive enough to get her wet and dripping. Then have the technique to drive her wild. From flirting when you meet. To when she begs for you to orgasm with her. What women do not understand is that a lot of the steps between meeting and fucking can be learned. They are just skills to be learned. They are naive to believe it's spontaneous. These habits were instead observed, tested, replicated. Stacy feels like a Disney princess, but so did Stephanie, S…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:00 PM
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I read studies that measured it. The experience up to marriage matters too. Women mate up and across social hierarchies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:58 PM
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We actually mate associatively long term. Women mate hypergamously. You can't look at married couples to describe what happens during dating. Over time women learn their equal and settle once their environment cannot satisfy their hypergamy. Overall at the finish line we match our equals roughly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:43 PM
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Norman li measured it, even down to the differences between say women in Asia and women in America. Western women care more about looks, Asian women status.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:33 PM
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It's a good thing we have a whole section in social sciences called evolutionary psychology that goes over it in detail
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:14 AM
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You assume they are man made. Often our behaviors rhyme with biology though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:38 AM
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It's simple, and already demonstrably proven, you must cross the looks threshold before any other attribute matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:33 AM
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Incorrect about sustained energy. Carbs are actually bad for sustained energy, hence runners wall. Endurance runners and cyclists are often ketogenic as a result. I brought up sugar and inflammatory foods as those put pressure on the immune system, which flares up skin conditions. It's not inherently harmful. It's about measurable and visible side effects like acne. We are talking about skin issues. Sugar is very inflammatory as are things like seed oils and fried foods. Which exacerbate skin is…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:20 PM
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Skincare products destroy your microbiome so you remove your body's natural defenses. The best treatment for poor skin is get rid of all the products, ensure you get enough vitamin d and b1, and reduce the carbs and sugar you eat. I have perfect skin and don't use anything. I just ensure my body has the fuel it needs nutritionally and avoid the inflammatory foods.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:49 PM
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Sounds like your therapists sucked. You would be better off reading the books they read to inform their practice
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:45 PM
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Yes, attractiveness is power. The attractive man has power over women, it flips the script from them being chased to them being the chaser. It greatly influences her behavior and treatment because she is now anxious and desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:41 PM
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I feel this happens naturally in other relationships where there isn't a gap. Just the natural process of emasculation. I agree with you, I feel the more attractive partner has power and a nice guy will get steamrolled and dead bedroom'd
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:37 PM
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Nothing about my personality changed and I went from 0 dates in 5 years to women inviting me over cooking me dinner and fucking me after a coffee and a walk. So completely invisible to fuck me daddy energy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:32 PM
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I was a senior engineer in tech, eventually working in AI cancer detection at a FAANG company, in research. Couldn't get a single girl out for coffee. Just got ghosted for years. Wasn't a bad looking guy. Actually relatively handsome. Just a little chubby because again, software engineer, computer engineering degree. I was exceptional at everything. Still couldn't get a girl out for coffee Well I lost weight (25lb so not a lot by any means, wasn't fat) and power lifted for a year. Updated my pho…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:49 PM
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What makes you think people who use only fans are the majority? I don't know a single guy who actually does
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:24 PM
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Women monkey branch. So they broke up long before he knew about it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 04:51 AM
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Is that some sad attempt to put words in my mouth or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:21 AM
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I feel like a woman who doesn't see value in men would be a poor partner. Because she wouldn't see the value in companionship and building something together. If she's having issues identifying the value, she isn't wifey material anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:46 AM
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They just attack a generalization to flip the script It's a manipulation tactic. An argumentative fallacy. Just call it out next time and move on. Generalizations are not stereotypes, and it's important for us to be able to talk about statistical trends across populations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:40 PM
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Literally wrong https://share.google/dh7E7V2m5wC9P6rV1
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 11:33 PM
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It's not the same. The affect is much larger in women and also it doesn't matter because as a man selecting a good woman is priority regardless if men show the behavior. You are just being manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 11:09 PM
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Yes but they've measured the extent for each gender, so what you said is manipulative. Men are not the same as women in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 09:01 PM
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Shamed correctly for not working on your avoidance and becoming more secure more like
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:55 PM
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It is grammatically correct You are confusing generalizations which are based in statistical fact with stereotypes. It's reasonable to generalize not discriminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:52 PM
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More like a trigger loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:43 PM
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This was me. Once I added muscular women were throwing their vaginas at me. Just straight cooked me dinner and fucked me without fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:50 PM
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I'd tell you to work on your avoidance and then find someone else. It's entirely fabricated in your mind and the desire to stay that way is low value behavior. You choose how you interpret the world so you would be choosing some irrational insecurity over just enjoying life as a woman or man in this world. We were born with these parts and it feels good. It's enjoyable. Very very intoxicating. And it's free. Why wouldn't you want to have sex? Huge red flags. I feel like the only man or woman oka…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:50 PM
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You can see the measured affect of social skills in Norman li's necessities and luxuries model. He's evaluated how women value those traits for short and long term mating. Social skills are actually less required for short term mating, ans are more required for long term mating. So what we observe is that women care less for flings. You are saying that because a minority of men don't act on getting eye fucked invalidates what he said?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:11 PM
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Its coordinated because the sexual revolution was coordinated. As is the move to dating apps and social media dating. You just don't see it as coordinated because there is no single actor pulling the strings. It's still coordinated because everyone is coordinating in the adoption of these principles. The end result is that selective breeding is intensifying. Selective breeding is a form of eugenics. I feel you are misunderstanding eugenics. You don't need a Hitler at the top telling everyone to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:50 PM
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It's easy. I can go find someone who will have sex with me. So if you wont have sex with me I have no other option. There is no match if they won't have sex with me. Because I value having a good sex life. I enjoy sex. And I want to continue to enjoy sex. 25 percent of women are the sexual persuers anyway, so if you are gonna be mad at anyone be mad at the women who actually want to have sex with their boyfriends. They raise the bar for you. Perhaps date someone you have lust and desire for?? Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:45 PM
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Okay then what I am trying to say is that it acts like eugenics. And you make the assumption that no one is coordinating it, but I would argue that the sexual revolution and women's empowerment is very coordinated. It just doesn't appear that way. But across the population this is certainly coordinated. Humans also implicitly perform eugenics through mate selection, even if it's not conscious we selectively breed and the competition is fierce. More ability to select partners is more sexual selec…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:38 PM
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It is eugenics. By definition sexual selection is eugenics. And an increase in the number of partners you can make your selection from does increase the selectivity which is the purpose of eugenics. Selective breeding is what eugenics is. So yes it is a form of eugenics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:27 PM
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No I am saying that the way propaganda has been able to be distributed has changed the dating landscape towards eugenics through mate selection trends. This is not evolution it's unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:18 PM
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He doesn't need to define nice guy, it's already got a definition. He doesn't need to describe what a nice guy as a preface to his point. He did list some nice guy behaviors, such as that unwillingness to challenge or fight. This is inauthenticity. You just didnt see the connection and changed the argument to be about nice guys. His point is that the men who do not fight, are not authentic, who are not "alpha" are inauthentic nice guys. And he described this correctly if you are familiar with wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:04 PM
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You are right that guns level the playing field. We are animals though so it's important to recognize that human perception and behaviors do not take this into account at all times and to the max extent. We form hierarchies within the first 30 seconds of meeting someone. Our brain just always sizes people up and we treat eachother differently accordingly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:01 PM
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She changed the topic on you and you didn't notice. When you interact with women notice this trend. It's one way you don't get offed in your interactions with women. It's how you be alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:58 PM
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No a nice guy displays very specific personality traits. Nice guys aren't just nice. That's not what the term means. Nice guys have very very specific behavioral patterns. Such as inauthenticity. A fear of speaking their mind. Some anxious and avoidant patterns. You can be a loser and not be a nice guy. You can be nice and not be a nice guy. Nice guys are men with very specific behaviors in inte actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:57 PM
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I agree with all of that. The issue we are seeing is sex with less people so let's focus on that. Overall less people are having sex, in relationships or not. There may be more sex in some relationships, as you said. The issue I am bringing up is that the proportion of men who have been without sex has risen rapidly. Something like 60-65 percent of men are single aged 18 to 35. Virginity rates are rising. I attribute that to sexual selection. There is no judgment it just is a fact of life. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:48 PM
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I never said more eugenics than before. Eugenics has been going downhill and evaporating since the second world war. Which contrary to popular belief was a very popular idea at the time. Even Canada had eugenics policies, now valued for its inclusion. Men have always been under eugenics. 60 percent of males failed to reproduce over history and over 90 percent of women succeeded. 107 men are born to every 100 women. Men die more often and earlier so it evens out, but not at the age people couple.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:40 PM
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If that was true then our society would be having a lot more sex, but that's actually going down as selectivity has gone up. Either way you changed the topic. With propaganda what I responded to is untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:16 PM
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No it was about women choosing. Prior they were confined to marriage which was often arranged and now it was explicitly about them choosing. You don't have a point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:15 PM
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I agree, but you are assuming that the sexual revolution wasn't spread through propoganda which it was. Because we have social media it's not evolution, it's the spread of propaganda. This has also been an explicit concerted effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:55 AM
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Women are valued for their youth and beauty I don't make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:06 AM
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That's called changing the topic hun
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:04 AM
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You can google marriage happiness by body count. It's well studied Low n count is lower risk, because objectively high n is high risk You cannot ignore the trend, that would be stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 11:44 PM
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I am saying that young women are a commodity and there are plenty of young women who go after rich men. Hell, my girlfriend's stepmoms daughter just went to school abroad at a bougie school, with the intention of meeting a multimillionaire inheriting son and did so. Don't hate the messenger for saying how the world works
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 11:44 PM
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It doesn't matter because women with a lot of partners in general aren't happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 06:27 PM
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So adaptable, capable of handling life's challenges. It's just Stoicism
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:54 PM
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Reported marriage happiness. Divorce rates. Women's reported happiness tanks. It's like 80 percent with 1 partner. 75 with 2-3. Then like 40 percent by 10 and 30 percent by 20+ Divorce rate is similar. This affect is seen more strongly in women, but men's reported happiness does still go down. Just not nearly as much. There is real statistical fact as to why body count is important. Selecting for low body count women is just smart. Why would you want a woman who had a bunch of fleeting relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:52 PM
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Pointing out when women are most valuable to rich men is not wrong. You are blaming this person for how our society functions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:49 PM
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Pointing out when women are most valuable to rich men is not wrong. You are blaming this person for how our society functions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:48 PM
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He's right though. A rich millionaire will take a 20 year old. It's when they are worth the most and have the most power
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 02:39 PM
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Body count has measured consequences. It's not negotiable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:30 PM
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Emotional regulation and integration is certainly part of the stoicism adopted by the red pill. It's required to be a rock
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:29 PM
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Also a red pill thing. Basically be stoic and unmoved
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:03 PM
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Also your results will vary based on your attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:45 PM
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Yes when you listen to women they tell you what you need to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:43 PM
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Well your take is a red pill one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:40 PM
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No one said they shouldn't Saying what they do isn't criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:49 AM
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Well the data backs it up so it's not insecurity and fear
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:48 AM
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I feel you just don't want to identify as red
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:11 PM
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This is a red pill take. Why are you blue? You even advocated for a stronger red pill with womens sexual selection advice
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:52 PM
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And then they shit on incels to protect their class status. They are superior to all the undesired males so invented language to kick the peasants while they are down, keeping them there. It makes sense, strong men with power are not as easily manipulated, and when you learn manipulation you see how feminists wield it. Their true colors shine bright. Imagine kicking a retard when he was down with a word like incel. It's no different from using terms like "gay" "black", or the more extreme versio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:13 PM
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It's not how you perceive yourself if you have behaviors that are consistent with a particular gender. In fact your own perception doesn't matter if you act like the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 07:07 AM
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And those things are true, so you just assume the rest. Invent it in your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:06 PM
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They're broke. I said I was a Senior engineer in tech. Worked in research at FAANG.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:18 PM
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I never said I felt victimized. Also calling whales, well, whales is not a problem nor does it indicate what you are assuming. Do you just go around here projecting your own assumptions as facts or something
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:17 PM
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In this case your topic isn't taking accountability for women. I couldn't getwnd whales out for coffee for years until I got jacked. Then women descended onto my cock like wolves. Women are just absurdly shallow. Men ain't got shit to do with it. The data even shows that men show interest linearly across attractiveness percentiles. So there is no ignoring less attractive women despite their criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:23 PM
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Look I couldn't even get land whales out for coffee until I got jacked. Then all the bitches descended like wolves. Its women being shallow bitches men ain't got shit to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:21 PM
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Okay then please don't change the topic. What you said was silly now own it. Gay people are a minority it's stupid for you to use gay people as your method of invalidating my position. We aren't talking about gay people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:17 PM
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Not true. Describing measured behavior does not imply judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:11 PM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:10 PM
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This isn't correlation but statistical likelihood. The gay population is like percents to the whole so your argument was simply manipulative. Do you just being up random concepts you have in your head without understanding them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:06 PM
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Women like to say the men just have high standards. I was a senior engineer in tech and I couldn't even get a whale out for coffee for 4 years. I got jacked updated my photos and women were throwing themselves at me. The level of gaslighting these women employ to protect their ego is insane. You are just a shallow bitch stop the cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:05 PM
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And then there's all the manly muscular men that women spread wide for that are much higher in number than the gays so you have no point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:49 PM
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This was me then I got jacked and women started throwing them at me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:58 AM
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Most of our society is about conformity. Part of individualization (psychology theory) is picking and choosing what your personal values are. But ultimately you are constrained by the views of the society you are a part of, and most people in it are not awakened so anything that's out of alignment is demonized.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:49 PM
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Personality only comes into play after a looks threshold has been crossed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:10 PM
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And what is normal is above.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:09 PM
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But that's actually how it works. What's weird is denying it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:09 AM
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Bro it's not complicated. She started talking to hotter dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:43 PM
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Oh yeah it's bad out there and you finally see it when you wake up You see your middle manager boss doing all the different forms of manipulation to keep you happy or dismiss conflict, control you. They'll walk into your raise meeting and just gaslight you. Really really a wake up call to how the world functions. Even interactions with friends, your like, oh these people actually are not my friend. Really let's you find the people who are worth investing time with from career to friendships and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:25 PM
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Ok So he knows your needs. Understands mirroring. Knows what women need. Sounds pretty red pilly to me The dread comes from the feeling they you know you have a catch, that you just describes in detail, who can just find any other woman and choose her instead. You feel dread because of who he is. You are more giving. You respect him more. Look at how you described him. If he were to find a hot 20 year old what chance do you even stand? Wait you know this so you suck his cock and fuck him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:23 AM
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Describe your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 01:33 AM
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Uh it does make sense. Just not to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 10:07 PM
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You are applying behavior of self identified red pill men to the red pill. These men aren't red pilled yet. They are only aware of it. If they were red pilled they would be secure and take action, compose themselves and change. They would know what is in their control and what is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:09 PM
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Point to where I used immature language? In fact using the analogy to the matrix is more grown up than your brain could process TRP is an optimistic mindset that everything is in your control. It's the black pill that reinforces insecurities. You got the pills mixed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:35 PM
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No that's not what I think. I told you what I think. I think that men who have recently become red pill aware act out in really insecure ways. Because they aren't secure any more. They lost their foundation. Please re read what I said it feels like you didn't understand anything if you are asking a question as silly as that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:26 PM
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You do realize that reference is the source of the concept red pill and blue pill right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:19 PM
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Men who are 6'1-6'5 have on average 0.5 other male competitors Men who are sub 5'5 have like 60. They have literally 120x more competition. This relationship has been measured across all height ranges. It's not negotiable. So thank you for acknowledging it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:12 PM
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Dread is the emotion that causes the spark. It instills lust, desire, and gets women wet and dripping. You wouldn't sleep with a man you weren't attracted to, and the men you are attracted to cause dread. It's what causes women to chase. No dread no drippy drippy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:07 PM
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Yes these men are insecure because they have not done the journey yet. It's very difficult to learn how the world and the people in it actually work. If you watch the matrix, they mention that they don't like to wake adults up because they are too old and don't respond well. This is what we see here. Men who are new to the redpill do act out, and they are very insecure. Why? Because the foundation of their knowledge was torn out from under them and they are falling. But they aren't actually prac…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:44 PM
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Totally agree. Safe and attracted to just aren't a thing. Safe does not equal attracted to. Dread means attracted to. Dread is not a safe feeling. Women who enter safe relationships are basically gonna dead bedroom the guy. They happen but not quality relationship. Totally on board with what you are putting down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:42 PM
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They're your friend because they feel safe with you They feel safe because they are NOT ATTRACTED TO YOU. And you have shown them nice guy energy (inauthentic to your desire)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:09 PM
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I am not defending that? Why are you applying what op said to what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:32 AM
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Looks status game man. Looks maxed. Learned seduction. Already had a high status career. Read a lot of books No more Mr nice guy, attached, art of conversation, you are not listening, models, way of the superior man, open her, she comes first... And more Went from 0 dates over 5 years of trying to 8 first dates with 8 different women within two weeks of updating my photos. And women were literally throwing themselves at me Basically had to put compete every other competitor. I'm a master chef, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:08 AM
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Point to where I said that, What you said is highly ironic as I am talking about the manipulation women do and you just put words in my mouth like a NPC robot
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:07 AM
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This is actually forms of social manipulation. They're not even aware they behave in this way. You will see women are very very crafty in the ways they manipulate socially. Once you are awakened you see it in all interactions with women. It's then up to you to maintain a masculine presence and not be manipulated, correct the behavior. They know when they do wrong. They know when they gaslight or manipulate when you call them out. They will get upset and kick and scream and cry wolf like a vulner…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:29 AM
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What a joke. I came out of monk mode after 1 year of hard reprogramming and women started throwing themselves at me. I'm not even kidding either. Couldn't get a girl out to coffee to multiple women inviting me over on date 2 cooking me dinner and fucking me. It works
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:30 PM
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Yes fat men are sub 10 percentile. Your dad could be overweight but now even land whales can swipe and find a skinny sperm donor, so they do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:02 PM
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Or you just learn how to control your arousal. Stop being stubborn you are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:34 PM
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Watch Caitlyn v on YouTube she has a bunch of videos on that and other intimacy topics Your arousal is tied to tension. So relax every single muscle. If you get tense from excitement you blow The reverse Kegel is how you block sperm. It's the opposite of flexing the no pee Kegel. A normal Kegel flexing is tension so you blow. You feel like you are blocking cum because you are tensing what you stop to pee but actually you are forcing blood into your penis and making you cum faster. A reverse Kege…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:04 PM
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Nah man that's in your head. I still do that and it's fine. The reverse Kegel and not tensing is important. If you just did Kegels it's the wrong exercise
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:56 PM
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You can do it with your hand?? Or like buy.a flesh light
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:55 PM
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And easy to fix. Do Kegels, reverse Kegels. In the moment reverse Kegel and release tension in all muscles
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:42 AM
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Do you know what a reverse Kegel is? Do you know not to tense any muscle in your body?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:41 AM
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I have an above average dick and still had women reject me looking for certain "shapes and sizes". It's absolutely not men. Women are on the lookout for absolutely everything like a checklist. I have my current SO screaming in pleasure out the top floor apartment window and it wasn't enough for some of the past girls I dated. Knew exactly how to hit every spot. how to get the angle right. Shallow penetration, a slot, p spot. Like a fucking tactical strike but with my dick. Girls are out there wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:32 AM
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The thing is you say you don't see them but they are everywhere. At that age group 18-35 it's like 20 percent plus. You don't think these men are any different, but here on the internet they are all disgusting incels Really puts the online culture into perspective. You wouldn't date them irl nor would you think less of them in person but online they're incels and disgusting. For me I was a virgin till I was older. Just a little chubby. Couldn't get a girl out for a date for over 5 years. Got mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:29 AM
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Most of the sidebar is about how to attract women where do you get "no LTR" There's even a filter for LTR posts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:59 PM
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Well that's also like your perception of the subreddit. From my perspective that take is a very Rollo group take on marriage which has become mostly anti women. It's like you are taking the extreme fringe advice post rational male era and putting that on the entire red pill group. I would agree with you that the red pill subreddit has a lot of men who do not want LTRs but you have to understand that what got these men there was multiple divorces before being red pilled enough to stop them from h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:51 PM
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So you answered his question about the generic red pill by talking about the goals you perceive from a niche echo chamber subreddit? Isn't that quite manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:38 PM
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It's not true. That's a very naive take of what the red pill is. It's more mgtow than anything. The red pill teaches how men can be used but does not dictate the desires and goals of individuals. Your whole argument is a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:26 PM
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That is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:33 PM
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Who probably doesn't care that he plows 20 year olds
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:31 AM
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She's like a 5 lol It's because he had the other ice cream flavors. For the same reason men want a low n count because women's standards raise, Bezos had experienced better. She's maybe a 5. He can have a dozen women full time in a sex dungeon catering to his every whim. Why would he stop at a 5? Who probably seldom has sex with him or at least doesn't want to do what these others girls will do. Full on 10s who will perk their pussies up when he walks in the room and ask daddy to inseminate them…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:53 AM
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Yes and yes. I was a little chubby and that meant I was single. They didn't want to tell me that it was because I was a little chubby. Had very good genetics but they lied. Those same women 180d and started chasing me after they learned but I rejected them because they were low value
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:01 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:51 AM
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Most women I grew up with said it doesn't matter, personality does. They lied to me because they didn't want to tell me why they wouldn't date me. When I became attractive two of those same women asked me out on dates 1;1 while they were with their partners of 10+ years. They started dating me on the side. That was a super red pilling moment in my life. The answer simply is virtue signalling. Women often want to appear more virtuous than they are so they lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:47 AM
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That's the women are wonderful effect. Well studied in psychology. It's not true though. You can read a lot of the philosophical work from the Greeks about women's nature. Or for instance Carl yungs work on the anima and women's nature. The red pill teaches men that women survive through social prowess. When you learn how they navigate the world you see them differently. You see it everywhere. You see women for what they actually are not how society makes them be perceived. You are still stuck i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 02:07 AM
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Ok let's talk then. Thank you for being so open. So one mistake you make with the not a monolith stance is this: you are trying to say women are individuals so it's unfair to put all women into this classification of having high standards. The mistake you make is that you are trying to dismiss the generalization because it's a stereotype. It feels unfair but it really is not. Why? Because generalizations are fair. They represent statistical trends across the broader population. Your stance here …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 01:23 AM
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They're only crazy if your eyes have been closed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 12:59 AM
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The manipulative bit is the hard one. Once you are aware of human behavior they are very rare
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:19 PM
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Why do you say teenagers? Shows you don't really understand gaming demographics Lots of games have 40+ people in voice communications working together to accomplish goals. Battles with ten thousand people. Whole logistics networks. Tons of communication. You are simply naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:15 PM
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I would wager a lot of people who play video games have better social skills than the ladies who sit on the couch watching trash tv all day lol A lot of video games are primarily for socialization
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:06 AM
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Successful guy here. Like really well off financially, looking my best, fit, active, the whole kit. You'd meet me and be like damn what a catch. I walked into 7-11 and there were three girls behind the counter all giggling and the lady asked me out. Like that type of guy (now at least). In the hospital visiting and every nurse that walks in gasps when they see me. I would never date a woman who has ever done any sort of sex work or porn or only fans. You are immediately a no. Why? I see it as in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:01 AM
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You're still a statistic. The average age gap at children is 7 years. Men dating younger is normal over history
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:55 AM
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Did you know that women look at women's breasts more than men do Also most people enjoy looking at attractive people
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 01:40 PM
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Huh? This is what the co-founder of ok Cupid found. There is a top percent of men in attractiveness percentile because the dating apps aggregate data on individuals attractiveness percentile to match partners appropriately. What I referenced is factually correct. You can argue looks isn't objective, however you are arguing against social science research which says it is. We have measured how attractive every feature is from a physical and non physical standpoint. You are wrong here. Lastly, usi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:18 PM
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I couldn't get even land whales out for a coffee date after spending 6 years in OLD. I got muscular updated my photos and had 8 first dates with 8 different women within two weeks of updating my photos Sorry but your take is literally insane Google messages received by attractiveness percentile ok Cupid. The data shows that women do not send messages to the entire bottom 80 percentile of men. Realistically only the top 10 percentile of men get messages at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:19 PM
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It's not autistic to describe the three pillars of the red pill. That's proper colloquial terminology. What's autistic is not understanding colloquial terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:42 PM
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So read it again?? Like I don't understand how you got there so how do I clarify how you are mistaken. I didn't say those words
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:41 PM
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So you are projecting your own autism to tell me that I am autistic because you are autistic? What the fuck is that How is stating what the red pill is "autistic". Maybe you should watch a video about what the pills even are
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:24 PM
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Yes it is, it's part of the game pillar. Looks status and game. Please educate yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:30 PM
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Which is where projection and perception come into play. An attractive fit and muscular man comes across as assertive. Not that they actually are. Their behaviors are interpreted through the lens of how the woman feels about him. Nerdy Billy Bob can never come across that way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:59 PM
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These men exist because the data shows women aren't engaging the bottom 90 percentile of men by attractiveness in even conversation. These men are actually right. Women are only talking to hot guys that are way out of their league (data proves it), letting themselves get used for sex as that guy has multiple women (65 percent of men say they are single and only 30 percent of women do - that means up a third of women are sharing a male partner. Becomes like a quarter if you accommodate for lesbia…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:53 PM
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The men here that you referred to haven't been red pilled yet, they haven't done the journey. When you do the journey you just become successful with women. So the successful ones who learn don't need to come here anymore unless they want to, and the unsuccessful keep coming as they search for answers and the answers upset them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:49 PM
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Where did you get that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:18 PM
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Re read your comment. You answered your unsureness. Also if you want the facts go read r values from the luxuries and necessities model. You are trying to say attractive male is high status is the same as an physically attractive female and the female physical attraction is status but that's just silly There is looks and status and they are different. You are making some weird argument where status is looks for women and not men and it's just honestly not really how people communicate about this…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:44 AM
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Seduction is not manipulative. It's a natural part of the mating and courting process.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:00 PM
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It's been measured, so, your opinion hardly matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:59 PM
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They are bizarre because you lack the self awareness to identify them in your own behaviors. All women do them. It's part of your personality matrix
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:50 PM
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Yes because women care about status and are more socially driven. They watch shows like Vanderpump or the Kardashians because it shows perceived high status individuals in social drama. If you are familiar with human behavior it's very entertaining. These women learn all of the toxic traits and replay that in their lives because they think it's high status behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:53 PM
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I literally quoted the defacto book on the topic. So appeal to the masses all you want (with no explanation about how a subreddit link says what you think it does I might add, delulu)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:39 PM
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Why are you reducing seduction, which happens in every romance movie, to a manipulative game? Sounds like a you problem. Class b personality disorder
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:38 PM
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You are actually very off too. A nice guy is a guy who lacks authenticity. He is too afraid to make his intentions known, so doesn't make moves or show his desire. He thinks sexuality is bad so hides it. He thinks he is being nice by not being authentic but it actually makes him a liar. Women can spot this behavior from a mile away. They see "I want to fuck your brains out" in body language but get "hi! I'm so nice to you hehe". He has the frustration of not getting women but also doesn't do any…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:58 PM
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Why would a surprise date give a girl the ick? That's a shit test lol. "don't give me surprise dates it makes me uncomfortable". She's just emotionally abusing you subtly through her preferences. Straight up a shit test LOL If it matters to you and is important to you, keep doing it you simp
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 01:48 PM
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I actually am highly educated in psychology and know a great deal about women both from education and experience
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 01:45 PM
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The word for this is non concordance. Plenty of books that help women with this. Real sex for real women glosses over it but the defacto book on the topic is come as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:08 PM
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Because she knows the easiest way to a man's heart is between her legs. She doesn't want to let him down for selfish reasons, so opens her legs willingly despite not being comfortable. It's what makes consent such a tricky subject. Lots of women will have sex before they are ready, and this is confusing for men because they'd just say no. But this comes with the traits of agreeableness (having sex but not being comfortable) and neuroticism (playing the victim after agreeing to have sex) . For in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:06 PM
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Describe your partner. He's probably 3/3 for red pill pillars. Red pilled by other men and experience
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:02 PM
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Well studied though, straight out of the rational male
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:06 PM
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Lol he busted in you hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:59 PM
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Watched 1 by 1 as every highschool friend succumbed. Till I was still single, finally caved, and then women were inviting me over, cooking me dinner, and fucking me on date 2 without fail
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:40 PM
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Most men I know got red pilled 15 years ago. That's one reason why the competition is so hard for young men, they're competing with men who knew the game and alpha widowed all the women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:37 PM
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Did you fuck him after the surprise date?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:29 PM
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No they're just different things. Apples to oranges. By planning a surprise date your partner was following red pill game seduction advice. He's probably red pilled even lol. He's not making your lunch is he? Because surprise date is attractive, simp making lunch isn't. They have different affects to your level of attraction. They're worth different amounts of points. A sandwich is oh thanks or wow what are you trying to make up for. A surprise date is "I'm gonna let you give me a creampie tonig…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:51 PM
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That's being assertive and being a leader, the opposite of a subservient sandwich maker
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:39 PM
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Look leave chat gpt behind, it's embarrassing to you. Generalizations used to justify bias that actually exists is not an issue. It's okay to marginalize groups on their actual behaviors. These are measured patterns, rooted in psychology and social science. To deny they exist to satisfy emotional well being is naive, illogical, and damaging to our society
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:28 PM
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There is nothing wrong with generalization. Lots of what is being discussed is accurate across those groups. Damning generalizing because it puts people into camps is egregious. It stops our ability to discuss actually real and demonstrable patterns across those groups. It may feel discriminatory, but that discrimination isn't a bad thing if it is true and accurately reflects that groups behaviors. Your argument favors emotional safety over the truth. It's not a solid rational foundation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:12 PM
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Lesbian relationships also divorce at much higher rates. Sexual delinquency comes with less commitment. They're sexually adventurous and this makes them less attractive long term partners both instinctually and in practice measurably
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 08:46 PM
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Man here. Women orgasm on average after 13 minutes of penetration Men can do Kegels and reverse Kegels to last longer. Most of them have no pelvic floor strength so their cum splooges out instead of shoots. Also why a lot of women have trouble getting pregnant. The guy doesn't fuck enough to build a pelvic floor naturally. Anyway for men the stop cum reflex is a reverse Kegel. When you train it you can actually choose when you cum. So 15 minutes, 30 minutes. It's the straining your body and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:48 PM
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That's pushed by trp, it's called game
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:25 PM
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Its not my opinion that this stance differs among individuals, that is a fact and you can just go and see that there is not consensus yourself. It's hotly debated here for instance. The red pill is what has been learned. Variance across individuals (what works for you and then) also does not discount trends across the population. Certain behaviors are attractive, other behaviors push people away. These are actually all well studied and known. The game pillar just describes these behaviors. Ok we…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:49 PM
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Lots of people say looks don't matter. You are projecting your opinion and stating that as a fact across the entire population. Have some self awareness here. Having a good job and a house is a big measure of status. Most people do not have a house. You are already in the minority of higher status males. Have some self awareness here. The red pill teaching here is men are like islands and women are like boats. You have a decent enough island so women are more likely to stay there. So you have so…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:36 PM
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No you just see reality that way. It's "duh" because it's obvious to you. That's what the appeal to common sense fallacy is. And just because people match with people they are attracted too just states that the science of the red pill is spot on. You are literally defending the red pill, and denying it in the same sentence. Do you see how backwards that is? Okay so now you have status in society, 2/3 pillars. Let's do some real talk on your seduction skills. How good are you in bed, flirting, ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:45 PM
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Appeal to common sense fallacy. It's not obvious when people repeatedly mistakenly say looks don't matter. This means you are red pilled btw. At the very least looks based. Which is 1/3 of the pillars. Let me guess you have a career too, decent living arrangements
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:30 PM
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The big asterisk to your view, which is well studied and scientifically demonstrable and measured, is that there is a looks threshold that must be crossed before a woman will consider both short term and long term relationships. There are oitliers to this, but this is the prevailing behavior across women. They will only engage if the guy is attractive enough. The actual quote is that no other attribute is considered until that threshold is met. So your view is correct from the perspective of a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:36 PM
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It's actually quite variable. Across regions of the world and variable across ages. You can look at the ratio value of each male attribute in Norman li's work on the necessities and luxuries model Your order is not correct at all. Not even remotely close. They've measured this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:16 PM
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How sad, your ego relies on me not being truthful and projecting my insecurities. It's actually a defensive mechanism you are employing to protect yourself. You would know that those are only common patterns of human behavior, and more common among those who haven't individualized and met their mirror. You are actually guessing, and incorrectly I might add. Please get out of here with your intro psych garbage. You were projecting being useless. I however am not useless and actually very successf…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:27 AM
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She was so degenerate lol. Like full on hormone induced emotional baggage trauma dumping. The most incoherent and illogical takes I had ever seen. If I hadn't already been red pilled, reading Lilith's takes would have red pilled me. She would like in one sentence put out fully formed red pill arguments and then in the next sentence denounce red pillers. It was kind of boggling to see the logical disconnect. She wasn't aware that she was red pilled herself but also hated red pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:34 PM
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Huh? Are you projecting your own lacking nature? Yes it is a fallacy. You are saying it's obvious, so common sense. However as per the fallacy common sense is not that common, you are failing to take into account the large bias our society imposes against that common sense being common ignore that and say it's obvious because it was obvious to you. It matches the fallacy perfectly (the fallacy describes the inverse but it's the same thing) No I was lacking. Then the red pill showed me the way. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:56 PM
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Why would they take accountability for the actions of a few men? That's like saying all men are responsible for the Holocaust
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:06 PM
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Are you aware that the average age gap when children are born is 7 years? And women report finding men 3-4 years older the most attractive. It's not old men preying on young women. More socially in tune and successful men may opt for younger women because they can, but women also overwhelmingly are most attracted to older men. The idea that age gaps are men's fault is absurd as it's as much women's fault as men's. Women mature faster Their Bain's develop faster. They tend to want to settle down …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:08 PM
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But red pill men do take accountability. It's all about taking action from inaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:05 PM
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Appeal to common sense fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:20 AM
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Standard red pill dating advice. Be yourself is blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:33 PM
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I couldn't get a lady out for coffee for 6 years. Got muscular and fit, updated my photos, and had 8 first dates within 2 weeks of updating my photos, with 8 different women. Turns out theyre all just shallow. At this point I had been working in AI cancer detection, had an engineering degree. The women I dated proceeded to invite me over for date 2, cook me dinner, and fuck me. Who woulda guessed that the blue pill is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:11 PM
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Point to the hate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:02 PM
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Certainly not paying for things and treating women like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:01 PM
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Not if those things are true. Go read Carl yungs work or many other older philosophers. Female nature has been well documented and there is a lot of truth to those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:00 PM
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And you can be the part of the few measured percent who are okay with that. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:59 PM
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It feels like you don't even know what the red pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:58 PM
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Every partner you have had has learned from their fathers, whom has passed down red pill knowledge down the generations. How do you think they knew what good treatment even was for you to keep dating them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:21 PM
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I think your ego needs to believe that. I'm actually a wonderful partner, my SO says I'm one in a million and she is the luckiest girl in the world. Because I am red pilled I know what she needs In a relationship and I meet her needs willingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:37 PM
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Being critical of how attraction works is not hate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:55 PM
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Women also overwhelmingly won't date men who have had sex with another man. It's like over 95 percent, measured. Obviously they report that they would date a bi man but very few actually will
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:54 PM
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It's true. Your idea of how attraction actually works is what is imagined
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:23 PM
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This is measured. Overall women get the ick over 65 percent of the time a man displays non gender conforming behaviors. FMRI scans say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:02 AM
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I became Chad and women started inviting me over, cooking me dinner, then fucking me. Personality never mattered. My current SO says I am one in a million. She frequently says how lucky she is. Prior to getting red pilled, not a single coffee date for 6 years. It's not personality, it's shallow bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:59 AM
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Can you point to where sexual needs was mentioned? Or are you just inventing things in your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:42 AM
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It's called setting boundaries. She may need you to listen, but you also have a need to fix. So you can listen and then fix and compromise. You do not need to enable and conform to her firm frame of no fixing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:41 PM
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I'd say most women have that view, and that is the core principle behind the red pill. You cannot negotiate physical attraction therefore as a man you have to become fit and physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:48 PM
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It's unreasonable precisely for what you specified, men will naturally make more later in their careers. The issue is women are unwilling to put in the work and stick it out to build up their man. This is the definition of entitlement. They want their cake and they want to eat it too. They aren't willing to be a traditional woman who facilitates her husband's success, and therefore these men do not find success. They're thrown aside before they get the opportunity to become that man that they wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:33 PM
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Where is consent coming from? Like I don't understand the basis of the argument. The point about passport bro'ing is that the women in those places tend to expect traditional gender roles. They don't expect to take without giving like western women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:02 PM
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You are right to question the source because it appears as if it's just Reddit. That is however from the book dataclysm. The source is in fact THE COFOUNDER OF OK CUPID. Who is the author and produced that graph from data HE GATHERED FROM THE DATING APPS THEMSELVS. it was so damning that they took it down lol. So I understand your hesitance to accept it. However It is accurate and very very real. Let's not go to anecdotals. It's not necessary. We have the data, and I showed it to you. Yes near t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:17 PM
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Norman li's necessities and luxuries model. You know, the extensive suite of mate selection research which disproves your anecdotal evidence. Go look at message rates by attractiveness percentile. Men show interest linearly according to attractiveness percentile. Women will not even engage lower men in conversation. Men all shoot their shot at 10s. But they more willingly settle for their equal. Have a look at it yourself, messages received by attractiveness percentile https://images.app.goo.gl/…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:36 PM
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The right thing to do is to tell them to pick themselves up. Yes it's emotionally damaging but it's the truth, and it's that hardship of getting to success, the journey, that creates strong men. The issue is that we don't have many men who can spot failing men and actually care about raising them up. For instance our society has 65 percent of men single and really high virginity rates. But we are kicking these men when they are down and labelling them incels, not different from calling the retar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:32 PM
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You are right. This is the basis of the red pill. Men need to begin the process of individualization (Carl Yung) and learn the animus and confront their mirror. To do so they need to learn what they are doing wrong and change themselves. In the red pill this is looks, status, game.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:25 PM
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It's been measured that's why. For women there is a looks threshold that must be crossed before they will consider any other attribute in a male partner. This isn't the case for men. They are more fair. Yes they do also go for the pretty women. But they display fairer behavior in regards to personality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:38 PM
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Direct quote Here’s the painful pattern that emerged from my research with men: We ask them to be vulnerable, we beg them to let us in, and we plead with them to tell us when they’re afraid, but the truth is that most women can’t stomach it. In those moments when real vulnerability happens in men, most of us recoil with fear and that fear manifests as everything from disappointment to disgust. And men are very smart. They know the risks, and they see the look in our eyes when we’re thinking, C’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:13 AM
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Brene browns work on vulnerability says something quite different. There is more nuance to it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 03:50 PM
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Men do well abroad as well. It's called the foreigner effect. Some women just really want the novelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 02:26 PM
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Yes but if it keeps happening then there is a common thread and that is the woman doing the choosing. It's your job as a woman to vet those you keep in your company
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 04:06 AM
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The issue is most attractive men follow toxic masculinity to some degree. No one believes they are. It's like the halo effect in action
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:21 AM
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Grandma told you to not give it up until you were sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:17 AM
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Men struggling at dating complain Women do not have low standards. I worked on AI medical research and still couldn't get a girl out for coffee. Believed all the nonsense you dumb blue pillers say is true. Couldn't get a date for 6 years. Got for and muscular, had 8 first dates with 8 different women in two weeks. Women were literally inviting me into their homes and fucking me after a coffee date. If you aren't Chad you are invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:25 PM
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So because they get let out early it's okay for their sentences to be twice as long. That's a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:21 PM
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Ok so "I keep dating asshole chads and they keep raping me" Maybe uh, don't date a guy who can and will treat you as discardable
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:18 PM
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And susceptible to judging themselves by their intent and others by their actions. " I think I am fair to men, men are such assholes who only want sex". "I intend to date men fairly but I datr Chad and Chad uses me for my body so all men suck"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 04:07 AM
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Red pill men who haven't done the journey complain about dating. You are confusing men beginning the journey with the idea behind the journey itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:26 AM
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He just wanted to admire. Not approach Did you know women look at other women's boobs more than men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:18 AM
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No one said it was? Where did you get that idea 🧐
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:19 PM
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65 percent of men are single. Think for a moment what that would do. If you are an attractive woman they long for someone like you in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:03 PM
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Necessities and luxuries model disagrees because what people say isn't how they act Op is talking about a well studied and proven phenomenon. The hypergamy assortative mating cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:24 PM
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Yes and that's why the red pill is so effective. Not because liars are saying liar things, but because you go out into the world and prove it truthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 03:17 PM
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RP in workplace is normal. We are slaves. The managers all will control you to get you to do what you want. They will hold pizza parties, gaslight you, pay you the minimum in a raise every year with a smile. They are there because they understand human behavior Unfortunately due to feminism men needed to become red pilled just to find connection. They went looking for answers after failure, and uh, they found them. This is one way feminism has been a travesty, because it woke men up.
/r/RedPillWomen30/04/25 06:15 AM
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You are confusing genuine interest with the ick and letting men with no interest have their way A guy who actually wants you will show it. Men fall in love on average after 6 dates. It's 13 for women. Only a small subset of men will know this and slow down, act disinterested. Basically you are looking for the anxious avoidant trap, because it triggers your child hood trauma. This is actually what fuckboys abuse. The good guys are the guy that do not create space in order to generate attraction. …
/r/RedPillWomen29/04/25 10:12 PM
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Okay but the three pillars do not change when you learn more adjacent to them. Women just are attracted to those traits, it's measured, regardless of what else you know about other topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:04 PM
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Just say you were wrong and ask him to come over. Make him a great dinner. Bake him some cookies. Then give him a blowjob.
/r/RedPillWomen29/04/25 01:02 PM
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You are responsible for the life you live. It is your job to fill your says with things and people that give you joy. It could be as simple as gardening. It is not your partner's role to fill the gaps in your life that make you unhappy. Now you could also just go find a different man that has a better island with more amenities. This is easier in some ways and harder in others. Men are like islands and women are like boats. If a man's island sucks you can just find a better island in view.
/r/RedPillWomen29/04/25 12:59 PM
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Every woman values those things, the R value for every male trait has been measured. Why are you arguing against the three pillars of the red pill as someone red pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:35 PM
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Manic pixie teenagers, yes. But that's what containment is for
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:04 PM
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So you aren't no pill, you are black pilled? The red pill is an optimistic mindset. These things are in your control. You learn the truth of attraction, and choose to play the game. Or you be a doomer black piller and give up because you can't. That's cope though. Because you can overcome your perceived shortcomings, you just choose to not put in the energy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:01 PM
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Oh so just naive. That's okay Men are like islands and women are like boats. If your island sucks, why would woman want to stay there. It is your job as a man to build an island that women would like to stay at. If there is a better island in view do not be surprised if women navigate there instead. Looks, status, social skills. All of these are in your control. You can simply learn skills in these areas. You choose not to. As long as you recognize that you choose to remain single I guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:07 AM
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Are you single
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:05 AM
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Have you tried? Are you jacked yet
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:04 AM
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Avoid the f boys. Find a man like your father :) Go in with that mindset and that goal. Don't let a man who is good with his words and handsy throw you into a craze.
/r/RedPillWomen27/04/25 05:21 PM
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He's red pilled and super successful. He told her he is alpha windowing her. He is now growing exponentially away from his peers, and it's just a realistic outcome of the end of the relationship. He needed to tell her to lower her expectations.
/r/RedPillWomen27/04/25 05:17 PM
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The issue with this perspective is that women often just date older men. The average age difference is 7 years measures when women have children. Women report 4 years older as most attractive. Women just are attracted to older men. Older men appeal better to their hypergamy, they have more resources, they are better socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:08 PM
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You look like a really good looking guy. I wouldn't expect you to have many issues. Read the book models, the art of conversation, and you are not listening. I'd also recommend men are from Mars and women are from Venus. And honestly - stop the chit chat in OLD. You are starting at 100 and going to 0 through casual conversation. Just give them a kiss emoji 😘 and say you'd like to meet them for coffee. If they say no just move on. It's an indirect display of value, and actually plays into the gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:10 PM
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When you talk to women you just reinforce the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:06 PM
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Set boundaries dude. It's just a shit test. Your partner knows what she is doing, how it makes you feel unloved. This is a process called emasculation and women naturally do it through the relationship cycle, well, they try and only succeed when they are with a man who does not understand this process and allows himself to become emasculated. She is not fucking you because you have been emasculated. She is not attracted to a boundaryless nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:00 PM
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Get red pilled and you will find your lady with ease
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:38 PM
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They just don't understand the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:06 AM
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That's a very silly way to blame men for women's insecurities and trauma
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:05 AM
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