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This is actually true tbh. The most important thing is having no flaws. A charismatic high earner with no major flaws but only a somewhat hot face will have way more success than a really hot guy who has some fatal flaw like autism or a small dick
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:40 PM
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And now you’re frantically trying to fight it lol. No shit hot people have kids, they’re also self assured enough to not need to parade the fact they’re hot to redditors. Because they know they’re hot, unlike you - who clearly gets worked up when someone suggests otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:28 PM
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Lol the fact that you have to brag about this means it’s probably not true. The chances of a legitimately good looking woman registering to reddit is low, the likelihood of her frequenting an incel-adjacent sub is even lower, and she definitely wouldn’t need to gain validation about being so good looking and married to such a handsome men from a group of mostly social failures
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:50 PM
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Yeah obviously they make personality-related judgement calls within top bucket. My point is that women will never think “he’s attractive enough for a quick hookup but not attractive enough to actually date”. If he fits one, he fits the other. Men can have a woman who is attractive enough to actually date, and if she’s crazy and incompatible, he’ll obviously not date her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:47 PM
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He said it because blue pillers genuinely don’t like to recognize that your attractiveness is the largest determinant of sexual success. She is acknowledging it. Therefore she isn’t really bluepilled, as they tend to believe in “personality” and “confidence”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:42 PM
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I mean when “any man that a woman wants at this point” is a minority pool of guys well above the average, it doesn’t feel off to characterize them as an ideal. If the average guy was ever wanted at all then the “Chad” concept wouldn’t be anywhere near as proliferated as it is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:40 PM
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Yeah but the reason they’re not good enough generally has more to do with their mental stability, their earnings/potential, status, etc.. With men, it’s bucketed entirely off looks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:26 PM
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I think it’s kinda the opposite tbh. Everyone recognizes the “friendzone” but you’ll never hear about the “fuckzone”. If a man goes to his friends venting that he’s constantly getting friendzoned, they’ll tell him he either needs to become more attractive/rich or lower his standards. When women are told that guys keep wanting hookups but not relationships with them, they aren’t told to level up themselves or drop their standards. They’re told that all men are pigs who only want sex and that she …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:24 PM
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I don’t think most men specifically set out to have a bunch of casual sex. It’s just that women bucket men in two buckets: attractive enough to date+ sleep with, or too unattractive for either. Men have three buckets: attractive enough to date, attractive enough to only sleep with, and too unattractive for both. Women don’t want to recognize the existence of the “fuckzone” though, so you get this asymmetry that causes them hurt. Most men will just take what comes to them until they find someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:31 PM
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The main reason women think that guys “only want sex” is because guys legitimately do only want sex when it comes to women who are significantly less attractive than them. You have many average women selecting a minority of well above average men, and these men are more than happy to have a bunch of average looking sexual partners until they inevitably settle down with someone of equal attractiveness to them. An average looking guy doesn’t even have the option of casual sex anyways, and would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:05 PM
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There’s quite a big middle ground between chaining her to a basement and letting her go clubbing on her own
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:09 PM
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I mean yeah why would you get upset about it when that isn’t a common occurrence. Tinder and okcupid are massive sample sizes and they’ve shown us that men consider a high % of women attractive, and women consider a tiny minority of men attractive, even if they’re ugly themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:56 PM
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Nah this is total bullshit lol. It’s the exact opposite. All these women want to lock down chad but he just wants to fuck around, until he finds someone actually on his attractiveness who he clicks with Do you not see the constant social media posts from women talking about how to progress the situationship into a LTR? Or them constantly complaining about how “all men” are fuckboys who won’t commit? You can’t read between the lines there?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:35 PM
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Do you not think it’s understandable they’d want to date someone ND? I’m NT and I don’t think I could honestly ever date an autistic woman, it seems like it would be exhausting. Kinda weird you expect someone NT to date you and look down on those similar to you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:08 PM
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Yes, decent. Any young girl who is decent looking will get some degree of preferential treatment in everyday life, whereas the overwhelming majority of men and older women will not. Granted, to be the star of every room you obviously need to be in the top tier of looks even as a young woman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:26 PM
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Yeah i mean obvious caveat that this only happens if the woman is decent looking. An average/ugly woman or a bottom 95% man won’t ever get this treatment consistently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:35 PM
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It honestly feels like rage bait tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:33 PM
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You better work on fixing that tbh, unless you’re a woman (or a man in the top 5% of looks). Otherwise you can’t really just sit around waiting for a good opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:39 PM
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I mean… no shit lol. Women can get dick all the way to the nursing home, that’s never really been the crux of “the wall” It’s more that women lose their ability to light up a room, and have everyone direct all their enamor and attention to them once they lose their youthful beauty. That’s the main value that’s lost. Getting joe schmoe to have sex with you is a constant throughout a woman’s whole life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:35 PM
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I mean even “he’s cute… i guess” indicates he’s well above average, considering women consider most men ugly lol. Im not downvoting you for whatever it’s worth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:17 PM
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I mean yeah, because you’re probably going for very attractive men out of your league. Men fuck down date across, women fuck up and date across. If a guy will hook up but not commit he’s just not that into you If you looked for guys at your level you would not have this struggle lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:14 PM
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Yeah, they do, and generally with other good looking people. Plenty of good looking guys have a bunch of flings with average range to good looking women and then eventually settle down with someone equally good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:02 PM
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I have seen it plenty. Not as much now cuz he’s gotten kinda irrelevant, but he’s clearly an above average looking guy. You don’t need to look like chris hemsworth to be above average looking. You might not have an eye for aesthetics i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:00 PM
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Meh. I’m like a 6-6.5 and can get 7-7.5 women, probably due to money and job status. You might just be slightly below threshold. I feel like once you’re moderately above average, things like money, muscles, and minor status really help you. If you’re firmly average or below then they do little to nothing. You might just be average
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:14 AM
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This is true but the problem is most women can’t understand that a guy sleeping with them has little bearing on whether he’s actually in their league A really hot guy can sleep with a mid women if he’s really horny. To him it’s nothing, basically jacking off with extra steps. But to the girl, all of a sudden she “knows her real value”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:28 PM
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I’d guess you’re either ugly or dead average looking if it had minimal impact on you tbh. I’m like 75th percentile in attractiveness with a high finance career and it def makes an impact on attractiveness. I think it’s one of those things where it only boosts you if you’re moderately above average or better, and if not it does nothing. But that goes with most things in life as a male
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:00 PM
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I don’t think most people are angry about that. OP is being ridiculous. The prevalent problem is when average and below average women try and lock down well above average men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:34 PM
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Even if chad were on reddit he sure as fuck wouldn’t be on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:18 PM
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I think you’re right but I don’t think “regret” is the right word because they’d need self reflection and realism for that. They’ll just tell themselves that all men are trash and believe the system was somehow conspiring against them, rather than facing that they should’ve just aimed at their own level
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:11 AM
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You are clearly a total loser if you think that lmfao, kind of an embarrassing take honestly. Billionaires have a level of status and influence that you can’t even fathom
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:48 PM
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To be able to generally navigate social situations, yeah absolutely. To be super confident and outgoing? not necessarily
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:47 PM
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No, there is a massive difference between having autism and not having it. Some people simply just weren’t exposed to enough socialization or had some irrational mental hangup that needed to be resolved. Having autism means you simply cannot properly integrate, but as long as you don’t have that you can likely improve significantly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:31 PM
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I mean it’s pretty fucking obvious lol. Tall, nice hair, good bone structure and proportionate features (also not asian or indian if in the west)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:17 PM
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Well yeah but no offense but you’re the exception as an autistic person, I think the general talking points should be in reference to the majority, or at least the average. Autism deprives you of the core intuition needed to navigate social circumstances. But many socially awkward people aren’t necessarily autistic and just need practice and exposure
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:13 PM
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I mean generally speaking he’s not gonna be average. Maybe he’s not some superstar but he’s likely better than normal or else his options would be little to none these days
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:55 PM
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Eh I think guys tend to know their place more often than women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:54 PM
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Lmfao the left is your type because they took the right’s features but shortened his midface (the model’s central flaw), thus making the game character more conventionally attractive. Conventional attractiveness very much exists. The GI Joe looking guy is not even conventionally attractive, he’s so masculine looking that it looks a bit goofy. But conventional attractiveness 100% exists and people act like attractiveness is way more subjective than it actually is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:24 PM
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Yeah end of the day our anecdotal experience will influence our own outlooks and we’ve just happened to be exposed to different sample sets. It is what it is tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:34 PM
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I’m mostly talking about higher society. Go look at the husbands of victoria secret models. Most of the time these 9-10/10 women are not dating 9-10/10 model men, they’re dating 7/10 men with higher influence/wealth than them. I’m in high finance and I see the same shit here, decent looking guys dating hot women. It’s the upper-mid women that want perfect looking guys to compensate for their insecurity. Being a good looking guy isn’t that rare, being decently good looking AND having power/high i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:26 PM
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I mean yeah dude obviously it’s a non factor in high school and college. At that point your standing is entirely determined by how good looking and athletic you are. As soon as you exit college your social standing becomes strongly tied to things like intelligence and work ethic. Obviously looks matter at any point, women will never be attracted to dead average or below average looking men, but money and status start to matter way more as a man once you’re older than like 23-24
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:50 PM
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Sure. My hairdresser is a 32 year old single mother and was telling me how she went on a date with a handsome, successful guy who she got along great with but broke it off because “i found out he tans and I don’t like that, I want someone more effortless” lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:53 PM
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You’re right, and it’s because women don’t register average or below average guys as men. What they consider an “average” looking guy is actually a 75th-85th percentile guy in looks (see OKCupid data). Same goes for height, income, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:49 PM
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If you have women interested in you, you are not average. Maybe you are not extraordinarily good looking, but I promise you are not 50th percentile. 50th percentile dudes are seen as ugly by the vast majority of women these days. I have a friend who’s 50th looking - no positive features, no negative or offensive features, 5’9 and white. He got about 10 matches in 3 years of dating apps lmfao, swiping on thousands of women You can see plenty of results like this on /r/dataisbeautiful too and plen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:44 PM
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The most attractive women will select someone decent looking but who also has significant wealth/status. They’re still dating equal or up effectively. They also know they’re hot so they don’t try and compensate in their partner. It’s the 6-7/10 women who aren’t quite hot who are more likely to only go for guys way hotter than them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:38 PM
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There def aren’t enough good looking and intelligent/successful guys for them to all have committed relationships. But at this point average range women have had a taste of the good life and would rather just be their occasional plaything, hold out for years hoping for commitment from one, or just be single - as opposed to getting with someone equal to them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:35 PM
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Disagree. Most situationships involve a guy of higher attractiveness with a girl below his level. When he finds someone actually at his level who he likes he’ll just date her. Look how common posts are from women online asking where all the “good” men are who want commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:30 PM
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There is a massive divide in experience and expectations between those before and after social media/dating apps. This was absolutely true for every gen except for gen z
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:25 PM
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They can’t get who they want and their standards are completely unrealistic across the board. It’s not just her problem because this affects all men outside of the top 5-10%. I agree with your end point that it makes no difference to try and talk your way out of it, you can’t move the needle on the individual level. But there’s a gender impasse due to social media where average women can’t understand that having sex with a top tier man is 0 implication that he wants to date or be seen with her
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:19 PM
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At 30 you’re expected to have a good career so good luck. You should also work on getting in great shape. Full head of hair will be an advantage against many other men in your age group so get that money up (and muscles) and you’ll be alright
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:05 PM
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It’s actually even worse than 80-20. They find 80% below average, the next 15% average looking, and only 5% to be above average looking. This also matches the Tinder data where they only swipe right on 4-5% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:02 PM
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Depends. If you’re bald without a well-paying job, definitely. If you’ve kept most of your hair, are in shape, above average face, and high paying job then definitely not - you can still land an attractive 25-30 year old woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:56 PM
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I literally spelled this out before. Having moderate wealth isn’t inherently attractive. Ugly dudes worth $5 million are not sexually attractive to women. But 6-7/10 dudes with status do become hot to women. There are countless examples of this - Jack Harlow, Ryan Gosling, Pete Davidson, Adam Driver, Benedict Cumberbatch. The whole “uglyhot” thing is almost always just sub 8 but above 5-6/10 men who are elevated by status into being considered hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:55 PM
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You clearly have minimal interaction with young women if you don’t think they find Jack Harlow and Pete Davidson hot lmfao. Take a break from the blackpill forums it’ll do your mental state good
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:12 PM
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Status 100% causes/enhances sexual attraction. I don’t think moderate wealth does but status absolutely does, so long as the guy is at least minimum looks threshold. If Jack Harlow or Pete Davidson didn’t have their status, they’d just be seen as moderately above average guys who could date but not slay. But because of their status, millions of women see them as super hot
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:51 PM
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You’ve never been around someone with status if you think it doesn’t cause visceral attraction. Obviously women won’t be attracted to a 2/10 man with millions but you really have no clue if you think women aren’t attracted to Leo for his status
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:30 PM
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You by no means have to agree with him, but trying to insult their personal life is an extremely cheap tactic and has no room in intelligent debate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:49 PM
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What is it with some of you having to strawman everything and trying to attack personal circumstance? It just makes you seem dumb and unable to handle an actual discussion. People can and do make points that are irrespective of their personal situation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:03 PM
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To them, yes. I think many women don’t understand that a guy can have sex with a girl even when he only has minimal attraction to her and would never be seen in public with her. So if they hookup with a top tier guy, they overestimate how much it meant to him because they only sleep with people they’re heavily attracted to and project that onto men Hence so many women sharing and holding out for these guys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:45 PM
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See link
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:15 PM
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Okay and why according to Pew are 62% of young men incel but only like 30% of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:57 PM
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Uh huh and what about men swiping right on 47% of profiles on tinder and women swiping on 4%?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:29 PM
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How do you explain the OKCupid and Tinder data then, where women find the vast majority of men unattractive and men find a high % of women attractive. Seems like you just want to pretend the data is the exact opposite because you can’t cope that you’re in the relatively small minority of unattractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:09 PM
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I think you mean bottom 50% tbh. Slightly above average women still get hit on by average and above average men, have seen this plenty
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:27 PM
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There are degrees of status. Obviously some dead average joe isn’t desirable at 40. But being a successful plastic surgeon at 45 benefits a man’s attractiveness far more than it would a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:46 PM
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Nobody here is going to be a celebrity and they aren’t lusted after for their status, they’re lusted after because they have elite genetics and resources to still be hot at that age. Show me one female celebrity with non-conventional looks who’s lusted after for their status that’s equivalent to someone like Adam Driver
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:33 PM
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No, women can’t. A woman’s attractiveness is entirely based on youth and beauty. A man’s attractiveness is based on largely their looks and height, but also their status, earnings, lifestyle etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:20 PM
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I doubt you’d have a choice tbh, you seem like someone who isn’t successful or on a path to being so lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:16 PM
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All 3 seconds? Oh the horror
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 10:06 PM
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That’s still nothing compared to ridiculous shit like the 666(6) rule, which excludes 99.99% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:59 PM
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There’s no hypocrisy. Nothing in his experience contradicts the point he’s trying to make. Roger Ebert was a highly respected critic even though he never made a film or won Oscar’s. You are allowed to make a point or critique even if your life experience doesn’t align to it. Idk why this is so hard for people to comprehend
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:56 PM
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And again, you’re trying to put down his general point with a strawman about his own circumstance lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:05 PM
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Lmao maybe but also you’re trans, you obviously are gonna have a higher sex drive than cis women generally speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:41 PM
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Most of the guys in those top two rows would do just fine getting a decent looking girl. Don’t get me wrong, if you’re in the bottom 60% of men you’re fucked but i think you’re taking it a bit too far
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:09 PM
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Echoing what another person said - you probably don’t have any meaningful amount of money or social status tbh. If you were a banker/lawyer/doctor/had a social media following, you’d have no problem getting 8s. 7/10 meets the looks threshold and is enough to spark attraction in even 10/10 girls if you have status/money, but yeah if ur a loser then you need to be at least an 8 for them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 10:46 PM
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