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That doesn't mean those were cops you dolt. Holy shit, look at those goalposts move. Cops by a different name are still cops. They were law enforcement. Goalposts are in the same spot. Policing as an institution was racist from inception. Oh please, you lefties think people using gifs of black people is "racist." I don't give a fuck what you declare "racist" anymore. Boston is one of the most racist urban centers in the country. This isn't even contentious. The Boston PD fucking loved stop and f…
/r/MensRights16/06/20 06:17 PM
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Huh, that's odd, because Boston was the first city to form a police force in the US in 1838. Huh, that's odd, because we had slave patrols for literally a hundred years before that. https://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/brief-history-slavery-and-origins-american-policing Also interesting considering that the Boston PD is famously historically racist. You don't know shit about history. You are literally making shit up. You are categorically wrong. You cannot say that without context to those numbe…
/r/MensRights16/06/20 05:05 PM
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You want to believe everything is racist, so that's what you believe. Doesn't matter what the evidence says--you say black people are oppressed by cops, therefore they must be. The institution of police is literally racist from inception, the original cops were chasing down escaped slaves. This isn't even a controversial statement. No you cannot. You just point to numbers and say "Those numbers are too high!" No, those numbers are disproportionately high. One might even say, unjust. So does lead…
/r/MensRights16/06/20 04:34 PM
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So is the one I referenced. The one you referenced is a pretty bad study, it looked at one geographic location with a specific target. That's not how to create a good study. Anybody who had to create original academic works would agree. Yet you still pushed the "black people get pulled over more because racism" bullshit even though you KNOW it's not true. Bro, talk to actual cops, they'll tell you they pull over black people more often. Many are proudly racist. Could it be because the places whe…
/r/MensRights16/06/20 04:07 PM
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Because you provided no evidence and simply stated it as fact. I don't have evidence on hand to disprove that like I do the other one, and it's pretty clear that even if I did, you'd just dismiss it because it hurts your narrative. These are all widely cited studies that have been known of for a long time. I didn't think I needed a link because you have access th all of the world's information on the device you are using, but sure, here are some links. Do you have a study showing this? https://w…
/r/MensRights16/06/20 03:34 PM
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So, you addressed my first point with what is probably the most narrow study that exists on the topic. You didn't address my second point at all because, presumably, it hurts your narrative. And then the great one: Even if that were true, it would still be 6x as sexist against men as it is racist against black people. Do you only have the mental capacity to care about one injustice? Furthermore, couldn't I just use the same logic that was being used earlier and say "men commit more crime than wo…
/r/MensRights16/06/20 03:17 PM
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Police pull over black people 3x more frequently than white people even though all data suggests that basically nobody respects traffic laws. Police arrest black people for marijuana use nearly 4x the rate of white people even though whites and blacks use marijuana at near identical rates. The Justice system is racist from police encounter to imprisonment.
/r/MensRights16/06/20 02:27 PM
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Yeah man, you're the Rosa parks of straight white guys who want to shit as fast as possible. Your presidential medal of freedom should be in the mail.
/r/MensRights27/04/20 12:34 PM
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You know this isn't something worth caring about, right?
/r/MensRights26/04/20 10:42 PM
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I'll just restate the important part of my point that you intentionally ignored: If you care about men's rights, don't let this stupid bathroom stuff be the face of the movement.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 10:03 PM
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I agree that both should be gender neutral, but I also just don't care. It's the most inconsequential thing I've ever seen posted here.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 09:05 PM
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Worse issues existing don't make something not an issue. Correct, but in this case one is an issue, and the other one is not. Tell me, how the fuck do I solve homelessness, suicide, or depression? How do you plan to solve the 5 guys shitter crisis of 2020? And why do you expect me to solve them instead of living my own life to the best of my ability? You're posting on an activist sub talking about how it's too hard to be an activist. Maybe you shouldn't be here. How dare I support a cause withou…
/r/MensRights26/04/20 03:44 PM
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If you don't care that's one thing. But you have to admit, making both restrooms gender neutral is better than taking a restroom away from one gender. I agree that both should probably be gender neutral, but I don't agree that a restroom has been taken away from you. It was never yours in the first place. I mean, you are literally admitting that men are receiving unequal treatment, and saying "who cares". I'm for equality, and if you aren't you should probably go elsewhere. Some things are just …
/r/MensRights26/04/20 03:02 PM
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Except that "first world" problems are still problems, just that now that we don't have to worry about where to get food from, we are able to worry about other less important things. Or maybe, just don't worry because it doesn't matter. That doesn't make this a non-issue, it's a "first world" issue for a "first world" country. It is entirely a non issue. An unfair change so that women can go sooner to the restroom at the expense of men waiting longer and not having a dedicated bathroom is certai…
/r/MensRights26/04/20 02:40 PM
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My only response to this remains who cares. Having to wait an extra few seconds to use the bathroom is not a breach of your rights. It's a bathroom. Also, if you're so asspain about it, just shit in the women's restroom. It's a single stall, nobody cares.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 02:32 PM
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Literally nothing was taken away from anyone here. If they just closed the men's room it would be one thing, but no. They just put a symbol on the name plate and everyone got asspain about it.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 02:19 PM
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If a man was in the men's room you would be blocked and have to wait. I don't see how the gender of the person changes the situation.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 02:18 PM
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... Yeah. That was my point buddy.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 02:17 PM
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Thanks for defending me. Can you imagine if only the actual problems men face got upvote in this sub? Maybe progress could be made.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 02:16 PM
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No, sorry but you don't. There are several states that already allow gender neutral bathroom. It's not a right.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 02:15 PM
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You're right, all restrooms should be gender neutral.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 06:58 AM
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Man, "I have to wait an extra 30s to poop" is the most first World complaint I have ever heard. Perhaps consider that they left the women's room alone to ensure you don't have to go through all of that trauma.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 06:38 AM
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It's a one person restroom, the situation has not changed at all. Furthermore, youd have the exact same amount of privacy in a gender neutral bathroom as you would in a men's only room. Do you think a bathroom being gender neutral means you'll suddenly be sharing stalls?
/r/MensRights26/04/20 05:50 AM
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Or just you know, poop in the gender neutral bathroom and call it a day? This is literally a non-issue.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 04:52 AM
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I hate that people think sociology isn't real science. Like wtf do these people think they complain about all day? I'll have to do some of my own research on it I guess.
/r/MensRights29/01/20 08:57 PM
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Has there been any studies on this? I'd be curious.
/r/MensRights29/01/20 01:10 PM
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No, it's just a chat app. It has voice functionality. Idk where you're located, so presumably, VOIP would be an easy way to talk without the barrier of text based communication.
/r/MensRights12/01/20 04:51 AM
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Bro, I'm talking about on discord.
/r/MensRights12/01/20 04:43 AM
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Dude, Im saying, lets have a personal conversation.
/r/MensRights12/01/20 02:32 AM
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Oh...so your sites are the only good ones and one I posted is crap? Yeah, ok. The sites I posted are all to studies with public methodology. You can scrutinize their methodology I suppose, but you haven't done that. MSM doesn't care about them either. They're too busy whining and bitching about President Trump to do their job. You won't find me defending MSM. They suck too. No, it isn't. Not my fault you can understand it. Nice try. Bro, you're the one bitching about how communicating through te…
/r/MensRights12/01/20 12:42 AM
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Simply you can't trust every website or article. And yet, the sites you have cited are filled with fake news and reactionary bullshit. The Left are the brainwashed, delusional group. What a nuanced take. Again, reading text and conversing on any social media is a horrible way to have a discussion. I meant voice, easier to understand tone and speak effectively.
/r/MensRights11/01/20 11:45 PM
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I can't believe you're calling my links bullshit while you link out to daily caller and the federalist. It's clear that you don't intend to learn anything beyond the carefully crafted narrative that has been dictated to you by the right wing reactionary media. I really don't get that. In sure this would be much better in person. If you wanna hop on discord later, I've been playing Halo MCC lately. Maybe we can actually chat, I don't see this going anywhere on reddit tho
/r/MensRights11/01/20 09:09 PM
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More people are reversing their change. It's better if the men haven't had their bottom surgery yet. This is what I mean by ignorance. It is obvious that you have only heard one narrative on this issue. The vast majority of trans people never detransition. In a US study, only .4% of trans people detransition perminently saying transitioning wasn't right for them. https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/usts/USTS-Full-Report-Dec17.pdf In a Swedish study that spanned over 50 years, only…
/r/MensRights11/01/20 05:15 PM
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I think you just don't understand trans people. Probably never met one, or even cared to. I would encourage you to do some real research on the topic. Read what medical professionals have to say about transitioning. You'll find that transitioning is the best treatment for gender dysphoria and that outcomes are significantly better post transition. This is very similar to what happens to gay people a few decades back. They were called "mentally ill", and told they just needed to be "normal" they …
/r/MensRights11/01/20 04:36 PM
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Nobody? HA HA HA. You're mistaken. Sorry, only "conservative" morons who get worked up about anything their daddies on fox tell them to be angry about. One example. How many times has it happened? How many times have dudes just gone into the women's restroom and taken photos? Pervs are pervs. This trans person happens to be one. Most, are not. Seems like you found the one example of a transwoman doing this. The problem is it has and does happen. You're insistence that 'trans people' get their wa…
/r/MensRights11/01/20 02:12 PM
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Plenty of people. Who? Any time I've ever seen a gender neutral bathroom in just noted it as mildly interesting and moved on. Seemed like nobody else had an issue either. It's only online where I see people twisting their undies about it. People with common sense and know about human biology and development work. There is a lot we don't know about human biology, but one thing about human biology that we do know is that trans people are a real thing. People who know about the trans 'women' who've…
/r/MensRights11/01/20 05:39 AM
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"This shitter distribution is literally communism" Spicy take there bud.
/r/MensRights11/01/20 04:29 AM
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Why are you so worked up over this? Honestly, who cares?
/r/MensRights11/01/20 04:26 AM
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Not going to convince you otherwise, but maybe contextualize the issue. Sexual assault is not a men's issue like it is a women's issue. According to RAINN, 1 in 6 women and 1 in 33 men will be sexually assaulted in their lives. Here we already see why this is more of a women's issue than a men's issue. 82% of juvenile rape victims and 90% of adult rape victims are women. According to a study by the BJS (including estimated unreported rapes which are higher when men are victims), an estimated 95%…
/r/MensRights08/10/19 11:07 AM
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They used those facts against me. Just like what you're fucking doing right now. I am not using the facts against you, and I doubt the NHS did a global study to attack you. You are applying that motive to me and them and you are wrong. Who gives a fuck whether its majority boys or whatever? That's literally the whole point of the conversation you jumped into. The entire context of the conversation should show you that people care and why. And that's highly dubious because I doubt anyone bothered…
/r/MensRights07/10/19 07:41 PM
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I am not in any way saying that girls don't bully boys. I am saying that boys are bullied more than girls and that boys do more bullying than girls. Also, it's not an attitude, it is a statistical fact. The DHS and PREVINET did a study across 40 countries and in 40/40 of them boys were bullied more often than girls and boys were bullies more often than girls. Acknowledging facts shouldn't cause suicidal ideation, and I'm sorry that you feel the way you do.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 07:32 PM
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When this typse of studies are conducted they come with unambiguous definitions, and in the definition of bullying, emotional, verbal, electronic, and social bullying were all included. Also, to say that bullying doesn't ruin your life is absurd. I've got a few friends who are sleeping in pine boxes now because of bullying.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 06:49 PM
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thing is, that is all still bullying, and when kids were asked "do you bully other kids in any of these ways?" and "have you been bullied in any of these ways?", boys outnumber girls every single time, and typically not by a small margin. I'm not saying men are the problem, but I am saying that men can contribute more to solving the problem than we do now, and that is all Gillette was saying too.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 06:42 PM
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Seriously, I think it's one of those cases where this sub saw the trailer and decided it was an attack on them personally without even giving it a chance. Happens all too often here where people assume intentions and usually assume the worst possible intentions.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 06:39 PM
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But it's not the 5%. The majority of boys are bullied or are bullies (or both) and bullying among boys is more violent than bullying among girls. More fathers are withdrawn from their emotions and families than aren't. The only 5%/95% issue is cat calling, but I don't think every man who cat calls is a psychopath, I think they're just ignorant to what is appropriate and can change if corrected.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 06:35 PM
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I am not saying most men are bad people, I am saying most men are flawed by nature of their upbringing. You don't need to have an abusive father to recognise that many fathers are absent from their children's lives either literally absent, absent due to work, or due to emotionally withholding and avoiding their kids. My points are not anecdotal. Pew research has a study that said that 49% of people think men don't need to be involved parents. The same study found that men spend about half the ti…
/r/MensRights07/10/19 06:09 PM
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I am talking about societal issues, you're anecdotal examples are not particularly compelling. If you didn't have to deal with it that's great, but it doesn't change what the whole picture looks like. am no one's father, it is not my job to educate anyone on how they should behave. What I do, is not associate with people that can't behave in public. I never signed up to be the moral police, leave that to religious zealots. So a father is the only one that should teach someone about behavior? Not…
/r/MensRights07/10/19 05:32 PM
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No Gillette was the one he was getting angry over.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 05:20 PM
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And for profit, Gillette stock price rose 1000 points after the ad aired and has stayed there since only wavering with the market as a whole. Any loss they posted is unrelated to the commercial.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 05:12 PM
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https://youtu.be/koPmuEyP3a0
/r/MensRights07/10/19 05:10 PM
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Most people don't call out other people, men or women. That's not an exclusively male thing. What is the goal of saying this though? Not everybody does it so nobody should? The problem is that not everybody does it. We should do it. Men don't repress their emotions, you're just comparing it to how women express theirs. Most men understand that a lot of women are not attracted to overly emotional men. Haven't you ever asked yourself why you think this is the case? Men are emotional beings, but we…
/r/MensRights07/10/19 05:09 PM
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But it's true, some is not enough. Most men don't call out their friend when they're being gross at the bar. Most men repress their emotions. Also, Gillette is doing just fine profit wise so I doubt the commercial hurt them.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 04:33 PM
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I don't think Gillette ever said "all men are toxic" though. In fact throughout the ad they show examples of men correcting the narrative. Gillette is saying that we should support our fellow men and call out the ones that make us all look bad.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 04:24 PM
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That's tragic, and it should not happen in our world. I will not piss on your shoes and say it's the rain, women can be just as mean as men, and there is a societal acceptance of it which is wrong. But just because women can be or are mean, doesn't mean that men should excuse the behavior of other men. We should be better than that at a societal level. People should step up across the board.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 04:22 PM
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I'm married, never needed to use one luckily. But, to your point, how many men have kids with multiple women? It takes two to tango and all.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 03:41 PM
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Is it the majority though? Are the majority of men emotionally open? Are the majority of men stepping away from the "boys will be boys" mentality? I only have my own experience, but I don't see it.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 03:32 PM
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I think your examples of women's issues are mostly exceptions not rules. How many women falsely accuse men of rape? About the same percentage as any other false crime report. How many women have 5 kids with 5 different dads? Not many. The only criticism you are right about is expecting men to pay for everything, and I don't think that would be received negatively in a "women can do better" movement. In fact, 2nd wave feminism rallied against that standard. Conversely, Most men repress emotion, m…
/r/MensRights07/10/19 03:31 PM
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So my interpretation of those scenes was different. Probably just informed by different upbringing. Do girls bully too? Sure, but the commercial wasn't about women. Gillettes campaign was a throwback to the old Gillette ads when they were strictly a "mns" health company. I saw the scene as one guy calling out his friend for cat calling, not just some stranger. And the men grilling is a good analogue of the emotionally repressed dad trope. He doesn't care what's going on around him, he doesn't ca…
/r/MensRights07/10/19 03:20 PM
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I think you're painting with too broad of a brush. It wasn't "society's" problems, it was mens issues. The issues addressed, (cat calling, dad's ignoring their sons, "boys will be boys") are all real and present issues in mens culture that should be looked at and improved upon. For example, in school I was bullied continuously, and it was written off as "boys will be boys" and ignored by my dad. That really fucked me up mentally for a long time. I know I'm not the only one who went through that.…
/r/MensRights07/10/19 02:55 PM
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What was wrong with that ad? I genuinely thought it was a pro men ad. Like a call to action. "Do better, be better." Something we all need to hear.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 02:48 PM
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George Soros is invested in everything. He's an investor. He's got a stake in everything from telecom to snack companies and cigarettes to casinos. You'd have an easier time finding companies he hasn't invested in.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 02:34 PM
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Honest question, what is the problem with Gilette? Edit: To those of you downvoting, thats fine, but just know that I am engaging in good faith dialogue and I am open to your opinion even if we disagree if you would like to give more than a downvote.
/r/MensRights07/10/19 02:31 PM
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Did you watch Dear White People? For some reason it got a lot of hate, but it was really good. It is a satire about race relations in the US. Honestly, give it a watch. If you like Atlanta, you'd probably like Dear White People. (It's not as good as Atlanta, but it's worth the watch.)
/r/MensRights07/10/19 02:27 PM
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You are literally in r/MensRights. You're here. You can ask any mainstay here about it, and they will give you a lot of reasons why men are not more privileged. So far everyone who has replied to me has given a pretty weak argument. Probably because men on this sub have a victim complex and don't want true equality. Not pointing fingers at laziness, but when it comes to ya bois living paycheck to paycheck, you've gotta apply yourself. Try to think your way out of the situation. In my country, it…
/r/MensRights21/09/19 12:42 PM
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One word Excellent retort. For the rest... My knowledge only goes so far. Maybe you should try and learn more about these issues if you're going to talk about them? Maybe? Gonna hedge a bet that nibbas having a hard time living paycheck to paycheck is simply because of the extreme amounts of capitalism. A lot of white men are also homeless, did you know? I did know that white men are homeless. You're right, capitalism should be abolished.
/r/MensRights20/09/19 09:18 PM
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With the current SJW culture... Racism is not highly on the move. Or else they'd get rioted intensely. "People aren't burning down neighborhoods anymore so racism doesn't exist" We're saying the 60's and 70's... What is that, like 5-6 decades ago? That's a very long time, and it has changed immensely. It has changed comparatively, but we are far from achieving true equality of opportunity. White Men have a 500 year head start in America on minorities and women. You're literally in r/MensRights, …
/r/MensRights20/09/19 08:25 PM
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When it comes to the Tulsa Race Riot, that is in the past. 1921. A time when racism was still highly on the move. News flash, racism is still highly on the move. And the Forbes list is likely because more straight white guys have dedicated themselves to amassing an unusable amount of money. Or, the far more likely reasons: generational wealth, a privelege that has been enjoyed almost exclusively by white people. Sex based discrimination that existed well into the 60s. Racial discrimination that …
/r/MensRights20/09/19 07:17 PM
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Really? This was the first time black people had a lot of money in America. Look how that went. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot In 2010 the forbes 400 list has exactly 2 black people on it, 3 gay people, 4 Indians, 6 Asians, and 34 women. The rest? Straight, white, men. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_400 So you're right, the wealthy are all privileged, but the overwhelming majority of wealthy people are straight white guys. Because straight white guys are more privileges …
/r/MensRights20/09/19 12:47 PM
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Nothing. It was a bunch of hoopla and then nothing.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 10:59 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm talking about this report from the NSVRC Stating 1/5 women and 1/71 men. Or, if you'd rather, this report from RAINN Stating 1/6 women and 1/33 men. Methodology varries, but the facts remain consistent. Women are raped, sexually assaulted, or victims of attempted rape at a staggeringly high rate. (Men are too, but just far less often than women.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 04:51 PM
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I have never said that. All women are not oppressed, and most women will not be raped. My entire argument is that most women are oppressed and far too many women are raped in their lifetime. (About 1 in 5 women compared to about 1 in 71 men) I have been pretty fair and straight forward for this entire interaction, you have returned with little of substance.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 04:38 PM
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You clearly have no argument and you know it so you're restoring to childish name calling.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 04:29 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Who the fuck said you must not go into stem or you will be raped? This isn't some threat, it is simply that culture normalizes women being in certain positions and men in others.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 04:03 PM
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Source for what? Women being overrepresented in services and soft sciences while men are overrepresented in technical positions and positions of power? Okay. https://careersmart.org.uk/occupations/equality/which-jobs-do-men-and-women-do-occupational-breakdown-gender
/r/MensRights12/09/19 03:47 PM
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It isn't forbidden, it is discouraged. Women are expected to be teachers, nurses, secretaries. Men are expected to be businessmen, engineers, and doctors. This is reinforced culturally by daily exposure. Women are often harassed when working in "manly" fields. Just look at the reaction any time a woman makes it into the fire Department.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 03:34 PM
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They aren't forbidden, and thanks to recent progress in first world countries, their numbers are beginning to match men's in many colleges. This isn't about a legal standard, it's about a cultural one.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 03:29 PM
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No, the patriarchy does. Nursing is seen as mot masculine, so less men pursue it.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 03:22 PM
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Ignoring issac and sydney k. Because jordan is the only even moderately relevant one. A couple youtubers with no influence are meaningless to me. They don't matter. If you want to suggest a video, I'd consider watching it. (I could recommend some videos for you too). But just saying "watch this YouTube's with a 1000 video backlog" is unproductive. They arent acepted?Where?They just dont sign up for the jobs.Men work in STEM fields,women dont.Men work more than women.Men are less agrreable.Whats …
/r/MensRights12/09/19 03:15 PM
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No,but i fail to see how male have privliages over women. I literally list a myriad of ways that men have privileged over women. And you still refuse to discuss the global oppression of women. They are 96% of the deaths at work place If women were more accepted in high risk fields, that wouldn't be the case. (jordan peterson,issac,sydney watson videos on it) I don't need to watch Jordan Peterson, I'm getting all of his talking points from you. Even the antiSJW YouTube's font claim there is NO wa…
/r/MensRights12/09/19 03:08 PM
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So, because in some ways, in some countries, women have some advantages over men, no w/o men are oppressed anywhere?
/r/MensRights12/09/19 02:44 PM
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So, just so we're clear, can you say in good faith that women today are not oppressed?
/r/MensRights12/09/19 02:39 PM
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Neither of those things is true.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 02:35 PM
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I am discussing america because the stats are the best one/most of them are.Anyway you said they are OPRESSED,implies everywhere. It is everywhere, it is just worse elsewhere. Recall that you said, "in good faith I can say that women are not oppressed." You made a descriptive claim. Also 50s feminist and 3rd wave feminisim isnt the same. No shit, that doesn't change the facts of the situation.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 02:33 PM
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Yep, that's wrong, and it shouldn't happen, guess who advocated for a bill that would make that illegal? Feminists. In the 60s. Feminism is about equality, not just benefiting women. Now when are you going to address the treatment of women globally?
/r/MensRights12/09/19 02:29 PM
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What are you talking about?
/r/MensRights12/09/19 02:26 PM
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Yo, what the fuck is that supposed to mean. You're talking about 11 year olds bro.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 02:25 PM
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You can't support your world view so you block people you disagree with instead. Just so we're clear: I am right, you are wrong. Your world view is flawed. You hate women, probably because none want to fuck you, so you are angry and feel oppressed.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 02:24 PM
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I didn't say, "it's against females so it doesn't count." That is a mischaracterization of my argument. What I did say was, the studies you cited are one or more of te following: either flawed in method or scope. (Google study) They do not say make any conclusive claims about gender specific claims from which oppression could be inferred. (Tinder study) They support my original position, not yours. (CONSAD study) They made conclusive claims that oppression could be inferred from, but your infere…
/r/MensRights12/09/19 02:16 PM
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I addressed and refuted each of your points, I did so calmly and rationally. Which study did I say doesn't fit my narrative and I spouting BS about?
/r/MensRights12/09/19 02:04 PM
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I'll just address the studies. Tinder study. Only addressed the first stage of a relationship, which is not typically when women stay at home. Only after one or both partners develop career tracks (and have kids) does one usually decide to stay at home. So this study says basically nothing about men or women being oppressed. CONSAD study. The CONSAD study found results consistent with my argument. Even when accounting for career choice, pregnancy, hours, etc. Women are still paid 5-7% less than …
/r/MensRights12/09/19 01:29 PM
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Men work 12 hours more on average more than women. 12 hours Per what? Day, week, month? According to the BLS, men work 3.5 more hours a week on average. So do presumably you're talking about a month. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/atus.pdf Men ask for more pairaises Even when every other known factor is controlled for we still see a pay gap. Even the harratige foundation couldn't fully eliminate the pay gap in their report about why the pay gap doesn't exist. https://www.heritage.org/jobs-a…
/r/MensRights12/09/19 10:49 AM
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Even when correcting for job choice, hours worked, and experince women are still paid between -1% and 7% less than men. (Depending on the job)
/r/MensRights12/09/19 03:48 AM
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The gender pay gap and career gap still exists. (Yes even when controlling for career choice and pregnancy.) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_pay_gap Women are raped at a far higher rate than men are, and when men are raped, it's usually by other men. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence Women are underrepresented in skilled trades, in business, in law, in computer science, and in politics. Women are socially expected to be the home makers. This is all just in America. …
/r/MensRights12/09/19 03:09 AM
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They didn't give me a reason for the ban. Read up on your history. Scum.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 01:32 AM
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I am banned from chappo you revisionist cunt.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 12:18 AM
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That was the original subject you impotent penis.
/r/MensRights12/09/19 12:00 AM
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Awful lot of Nazi defending for a non Nazi. Just admit it you coward. You're a Nazi. Admit it, and then please proceed to stop breathing air.
/r/MensRights11/09/19 11:48 PM
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Sure, but I presume nothing I say will be compelling to you. If you will have a good faith conversation with me, and support your side, I will gladly provide plenty of evidence that women are oppressed.
/r/MensRights11/09/19 11:05 PM
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Do you have any way to prove such a claim?
/r/MensRights11/09/19 10:55 PM
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Complete ignorance and misinformation. Egypt (aka middle easterners) created first civilizations Egypt is in Africa homie. have no proof nazis sterilized blacks. https://www.ushmm.org/learn/students/learning-materials-and-resources/mentally-and-physically-handicapped-victims-of-the-nazi-era/forced-sterilization pointless to talk to someone who got all their information from tumblr. I only used Tumblr for porno homie.
/r/MensRights11/09/19 10:25 PM
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No i mean the forced equal treatment via: diversity hires, affirmative action. Oh yeah, all those diversity quotas in 1930s Germany. How could I have forgotten about that. The country was 99% white you claud. There was no forces diversity. That isn't a fact and it's not even true. The only place we have proof of the nation sterilizing blacks is Israel. I'm pretty sure there were zero blacks in germany btw, they didn't have slaves like America. Yes it is a fact. Nazi Germany sterilized black chil…
/r/MensRights11/09/19 07:11 PM
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Marxism isn't communism. Marxism is the social order while communism is the government order. Fair enough. If by Marxism, you mean equal treatment under the law and a democratic voting process, then maybe they were Marxists. But you've entire obfuscated what Marxism is at that point. Proof that he killed anyone besides jews/whites? Blacks were sterilized in mass in Nazi Germany, they were kidnapped and used as POWs, and they were killed in the streets. This isn't even a disposable fact. There we…
/r/MensRights11/09/19 06:48 PM
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It's rigged against everyone on the out group... Hey, we agree on something. Social democrats are rebranded Marxists and never opposed them. False. Blatantly false. Social democrats entire platform was anti Nazi, anti communist. So you believe "nazis" the group that allied with: japan, Africa, and Muslims were far right about race? A means to an end. Hitler allied himself with the socialists until he didn't need them anymore and he subsequently killed them all. Antisemitism: hostility or prejudi…
/r/MensRights11/09/19 06:32 PM
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I fully agree that the rich and banks are rigging the game, but that's not what I asked you. I asked you who it was rigged against. I guess literacy among Nazis is low. Social democrats opposed Marxism in WW2 genius, they still do today. You're confusing socialist with social Democrat. But I guess historical literacy among Nazis is low too. As for definitions, let's run with this: Nazism: a fasicist ideology aligned with far right views about race, antisemitism, anticommunism, and nationalism. N…
/r/MensRights11/09/19 06:12 PM
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The rich and the banks. "The game is rigged against the rich and the banks." You heard it here first folks. Nazi was a term invented by Konrad Heiden who was a marxist lmao. Keep attacking me because you are ignorant it's funny at this point. Konrad Heiden, a Social Democrat (See: not marxist) invented the word Nazi. He did this after attending a Nazi rally? Sounds. About. Right. Big brain stuff going on here. All of that being beside the point which is, "Nazi" is a word that people self identif…
/r/MensRights11/09/19 05:59 PM
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Not really a neo nazi either. White nationalist who recognizes the game is rigged maybe. Sounds like a neo Nazi to me. Who is the game rigged against exactly? You should really avoid using the marxist labels of "nazi" and "neo-nazi" that is the feminist game. Ah yes, "Nazi". A term coined by marxist feminists. How could I have forgotten. You and i know both things are a lot more complicated. I'm sure a lot of things are complicated for you.
/r/MensRights11/09/19 05:47 PM
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Neo Nazi then.
/r/MensRights11/09/19 05:35 PM
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Those are some extra spicy talking points you've got there. Edit: oh fuck, you're an actual Nazi. Not like the reddit, "racist Nazi homophobe" Schtick, but an actual honest to god Nazi. I can't believe people as stupid as you actually exist.
/r/MensRights11/09/19 04:40 PM
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Can you honestly claim, in good faith, that women are not oppressed?
/r/MensRights11/09/19 12:52 PM
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A bill that expanded the Canadian human rights act to include gender identity and gender expression as protected classes. Basically made it so killing a trans person for being trans is a hate crime. This bill was commended by the Canadian Bar and supported by 84% of the population. This bills language was taken wildly out of context by Jordan B Peterson who claimed it would create freedom of speech issues and compelling speech. There has not been a single arrest made on the grounds of compelled …
/r/MensRights11/09/19 12:51 PM
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Obviously everybody has benefits and burdens. Any child can understand that. The observable fact is that men on average have more benefits than women. White people on average have more benefits than minorities. Wealthy people on average have more benefits than poor people. People born in the first world on average have more benefits than those born in the third world. That's what this is clearly talking about. Whataboutism is not getting any of us anywhere, and it certainly isn't fixing our clea…
/r/MensRights11/09/19 12:02 AM
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I would be interested in how this sub proposes fixing disadvantages without viewing it as hurting those who have advantages.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 11:09 PM
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Have you voiced your concerns with her?
/r/MensRights10/09/19 04:08 PM
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Can't it just as easily be, "How can we make things better for people without these advantages"?
/r/MensRights10/09/19 04:04 PM
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How is the teacher contextualizing these lectures? Is it just, "men always have it easier, whites always have it easier, etc" or is it more nuanced like, "in some places men have privileges and in other places other people have privilege."?
/r/MensRights10/09/19 02:04 PM
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The graphic pretty clearly does not state, "only whites and males have privilege." For example, a black woman who was born into wealth in an upper class area who is able bodied has privileges as well. (Per the OP text) All this graphic is stating is that there are certain socioeconomic classes that have more privileges than others. This is an observable fact.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 12:14 PM
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Not sure what I said that triggered that little fit of yours, but to clarify, Intersectionality is not inherently "white men have it best, case closed." Plenty of other groups have priveleges. First generation Asian immigrants are typically from wealthy families. (Especially from mainland China) Jewish people often come from generational wealth due to the cultural values of only spending money within the community. White people often come from generational wealth due to the legal oppression of m…
/r/MensRights10/09/19 03:52 AM
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Like all things, privileges have a place where they are beneficial and a place where they are detrimental. It is a privilege because typically the benefits outweigh the detrimental.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 03:33 AM
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Yes, that is intersectionalist theory in a nut shell.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 03:18 AM
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Alright, it's relatively straight forward. From this countries founding to about 50 years ago, minorities were seen as inferior to white people. Not only in the public eye, but also in the eyes of the law. This led to tons of laws being passed that hurt minorities while helping white people. Minorities are still affected by these policies today due to generational wealth and generational poverty. As a result, white people tend to be better off than minorities. As a result of the same laws, minor…
/r/MensRights10/09/19 03:00 AM
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If you don't want to address all of the societal seasonings behind that, then sure, it sounds pretty fucked up. But once context is added, things tend to make sense and your straw man argument falls apart.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 02:43 AM
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Entitled as in, "I earned everything I've got all on my own, I have never benefited from the things that science shows I benefit from on a daily basis." Connect the dots man, this is sociology 101. (Which you might want to take before discounting an entire field of study)
/r/MensRights10/09/19 01:16 AM
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There is no sociologist saying, "all white men are privileged". If you knew a damn thing about sociology, you would know that there are repeatable studies. Those repeatable studies are what lead real sociologists to say things like, "statistically, white men have an easier time doing a myriad of things over other intersections of race and gender. The individual experience is literally irrelevant. All that matters is the statistical average, and the statistical average is, white men have an easie…
/r/MensRights10/09/19 01:03 AM
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"Waa stay out of my totally public social media account" Facts are that you don't know. You don't know whether you benefited from your socioeconomic status or not. If you were black or Mexican would you be in the same spot? What if you were wheelchair bound? What if you were raised in the ghettos of Detroit? Fuck, what if you were born in Guatemala? You have tons of privileges by nature of you having been born lucky; so do I. Maybe you should appreciate that a little more. God knows I do.
/r/MensRights10/09/19 12:18 AM
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Well you're posting on reddit for one thing, that means you've got a phone at least and internet. After a quick scroll through your posts ivd found that to like tv, not jerking off and.... Oooohhh what's this? and if you aren’t 6’ ( I am ).... good job (I have one )..... nice car( vroom vroom )....big cock ( ehh I’m doing alright )..... You're 6' tall with a wife, a nice car, a good job, and a fat cock. Your reality seems like a pretty privileged one to me.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 11:09 PM
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Precisely. Thank you for your nuanced contribution. Most of this thread has been people angry that I even dared to say men have priveleges. Appreciate ya FH-7497!
/r/MensRights09/09/19 08:00 PM
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I pointed out the massive hole ( the one of many ) in your argument at the onset of this banality. Your massive hole was, "what about other people's privileges". Man you really blew the case wide open there. You just keep on thinking in the rigid illogical way you do..... Pot and kettle man. Pot and kettle. You just keep on thinking in the rigid illogical way you do..... all the while still wondering why no one is really buying the cockamamie post modernist rant, the same one that’s been regurgi…
/r/MensRights09/09/19 07:48 PM
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Hey, have more faith in your opinions homie. Just because you're wrong that doesn't make you an idiot. You've just been lied to and you adopted a liars worldview because you like it better than the real world.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 07:36 PM
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Right. So me and all my poor white friends. Fuck us I guess we don’t count. And that isn’t anecdotal.... SEE: the entire Midwest, and South in the US You count, you are just on the lower end of that particular statistical bell curve. That's how statistics work. Also Generational wealth is an inevitability in any capitalist country. So if your argument is simply anti capitalism just stop right there.... at this point I don’t care. My argument isn't necessarily anti capitalist, (although I could g…
/r/MensRights09/09/19 07:28 PM
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Oh so now we’re just casually adding wealthy to the mix.... gotcha. Wealthy is in the OP, but pull it out and the point still stands. Well if that’s the case where do I sign up to get my “white wealth” I really wish I knew sooner. Statistically white people have more money than most other races. (This is due to the historical effects of racist laws and government policies. Give "generational wealth", "generational poverty", "cyclical poverty", and "redlining" a Google if you're interested in som…
/r/MensRights09/09/19 07:01 PM
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This isn't about just men, it is about men, who are heterosexual, wealthy, white, able bodied, etc. People who check off more of those boxes have a higher statistical likelihood of doing better in life.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 06:42 PM
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Excuse me if I feel less pity for the disadvantages of a straight white wealthy guy. Each of these things individually don't amount to much. Only at the intersections do they really stack up for or against you. For example, the wage gap is closing overall, but it isn't closing for black women.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 06:40 PM
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These classifications are based upon statistical groupings. Are there exceptions? Sure. Do these societal "rules" typically apply? Yes.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 06:21 PM
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My original argument: "men have priveleges, these should be recognised, apprecisted, and not taken advantage of." You then went and threw a pedantic fit about how not everyone can MJ. Child realizes he's a moron in real time and blocks the person who made him look like a fool. You have to see it folks.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 06:19 PM
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Dude, finish your comments before posting, this editing is obnoxious. Once again, when talking about statistical groups, men have a natural genetic statistical advantage (See:Privelege) over women in most athletic endeavors. Men all fall on a statistical bell curve, are some men naturally more athletic than others? Of course. But that doesn't change the fact that self improvement is possible.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 06:11 PM
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At this point you're just being pedantic. You know exactly what I mean.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 06:05 PM
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Of course it can. You can be an inauthentic person, train, and become a more athletic person.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 06:02 PM
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omg. i's obvious you're not athletic and have no clue wtf you're talking about. I'm not a pro or anything but I play rec softball and hockey. And guess what, as I've practiced I've gotten better. I didn't emerge from the womb with the innate ability to slapshot. So...football players dont even train because if they did they'd all be equal to each other in skill. got it. Literally the first thing I said: "Athleticism can be acquired and honed."
/r/MensRights09/09/19 05:59 PM
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Sure some people are prodigies, but we aren't talking about individuals, we are talking about statistical groups. A person who is 5'2'' could never beat MJ, but MJ could never be a jockey, he could never box featherweight, he could never be a competitive weight lifter, rower, soccer player, rugby, F1 racing, I could go on.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 05:55 PM
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i disagree. and i dont think you get it. not everybody is athletically coordinated and not everybody is intelligent enough for things like physics. Of course "the gift" can be honed. But some people are just more gifted than others. And this is the whole point you're not even considering. You can disagree, but you would be wrong. Athleticism: r/brogress, r/progresspics Art: r/artfundamentals Intellect: too many to list. Find what you're good at and passionate about and pursue it. Maybe you aren'…
/r/MensRights09/09/19 05:47 PM
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Of course they should. Wealthy person donating would be a great example of someone recognising a privilege they have, and using it for good (see: not taking advantage) Athleticism, arts and intellect can all be acquired and honed, so they aren't the same as whiteness, generational wealth, or biological sex. (See: false choice fallacy)
/r/MensRights09/09/19 05:35 PM
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The point is, recognising ones privilege does not imply nobody else has privilege. I can recognize that being a straight white guy has its advantages.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 05:28 PM
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Recognise it, appreciate it, don't abuse it. I can recognize that I have certain advantages due to my social and economic status, I appreciate having those advantages, I try not to take advantage of them.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 05:15 PM
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Data exists that men are privileged, but would you accept it if I went through and sourced it? Or would you reject it as false? Honest question. I'm a cis hetero white guy, and I know I have privileged that other folks don't.
/r/MensRights09/09/19 05:11 PM
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Respect is earned friend, I was respectful to you for far longer than you deserved, but after the 3rd or 4th iteration of "go fuck yourself in the place with the things" it was clear to me that you were incapable of listening to reason. I got a good rise out of you too so I guess it all worked. You're just continuing to prove my point over and over again.
/r/MensRights29/11/17 03:09 AM
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Woah, good comeback. What, you couldn't make a decent argument so you want back 10 comments to call me a retard. Christ what is the matter with you? Who hurt you?
/r/MensRights29/11/17 02:08 AM
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Yeah, I get that, I'm just saying that Laci is not nor has she been that feminist.
/r/MensRights29/11/17 01:50 AM
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Yeah, never read Oscar Wilde. Guess I'll have to pick it up. Maybe then I'll be angry and sad all day because the evil scary women are taking my manliness away or something.
/r/MensRights29/11/17 01:46 AM
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What are you on about man? This isn't tyranny. This is you being a fuck and me saying 'hey maybe how about dont.'
/r/MensRights29/11/17 01:31 AM
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You're a child, I only hope you aren't this hateful your whole life. Just accept it, be a good person. Or more likely, you're to emotionally insecure to be able to handle kindness.
/r/MensRights29/11/17 01:09 AM
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Feminists aren't asking to rule, they are asking for equality. The ones who are asking to rule aren't feminists by definition. My definition of equality is the real definition of equality. The fact that you think that being asked to abstain from throwing around dumb remarks is walking on eggshells is sad. It's called self censorship. Be polite. It's not hard.
/r/MensRights29/11/17 12:58 AM
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I support the only definition of equality. Men and women are equal in every nesisary respect. Now let me address your army of straw men... Me wanting you to speak respectfully has nothing to do with: Laci Green who is great. Circumcision without consent which is abhorrent. Prison inequality which is unacceptable. Divorce outcomes which are unequal. Suicide rate which I find particularly disappointing as a suicide survivor. Now can you please answer my one question you sexist coward. Why do you f…
/r/MensRights29/11/17 12:38 AM
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You don't need to content, like I said you're free to be whatever brand of douche you want, I'm just saying you make us all look bad when you talk like that. I'm not a feminazi, unless that means I think men and women should be equal in which case woah ya caught me... but that makes me a meninazi too doesn't it. What's keeping me here is that I care about the men's rights movement and if like to see it successful. When someone like you with the depth of a puddle "represents" the movement, you ma…
/r/MensRights29/11/17 12:26 AM
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Do you really not understand? It is important to be respectful to people. I don't care if you don't like it, what you like or think is irrelevent. The facts are that it is a crass thing to say, and you shouldn't go around saying crass things just because you think you can. This is a part of social development you'll learn when you turn 15.
/r/MensRights29/11/17 12:11 AM
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Oh would you just stop. If it was harmless it wouldn't be brought up, but you know as well as I do that regardless of your or my opinion about the word or words like it, it is not socially acceptable and it is seen as rude to speak that way. When you're talking to family friends and coworkers do you throw that shit around?
/r/MensRights28/11/17 11:54 PM
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Your aim is to stifle men's free expression in the name of respect. One guy says the word tits and you jump straight up his ass with the tone policeman's truncheon. Let me be very clear, I never said "no-one can ever say tits" nor did I say "men can't say tits" I said that if this movement is to gain any traction, using respectful language is a must. If the whole public thinks men's rights activists are all like you, a bunch of cavemen incapable of using finesse or reading context, then we will …
/r/MensRights28/11/17 11:44 PM
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Jesus, how old are you 12? You imply I am being hypocritical but do you have any proof? Take your tone policing and stick it somewhere it might be useful. Not tone policing, just trying to clean up the trash on this sub. When people like you associate yourselves with this movement we all lose.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 11:19 PM
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I think you should go back to your home on r/incels. Widely understood by women who think they get to control how other people talk. Fuck that, and fuck you. No, widely understood by people who are members of a respectful society. Being a good person is not that hard for most people, however you do seem to struggle. You should try it sometime because it will improve your life and maybe you won't be so angry. I don't need to respect anyone, I just need to not touch them or their stuff. What a sad…
/r/MensRights28/11/17 11:01 PM
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You just said a whole lot without really saying anything. The guy who deleted his comment made a rude comment about "checking out her tits" that is not a respectful way to phrase it. We do get to define respect because there is a social fabric and what is consideres appropriate is widely understood. There is a way to say nice things to women without being disrespectful, but that is not it. He was wrong. And by making those kinds of comments he is making the whole movement look worse.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 10:25 PM
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It's not, but that's also not what happened. Thinking is fine, making comments in a public forum about gender equality like "you just muted the video and stared at her tits didn't you?" Is distasteful, disrespectful, and it goes against our collective goals as a group.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 05:05 PM
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I just watched her videos on consent: WANNA HAVE SEX? (Consent 101) She never uses gendered language and only explains that affirmative [YES] consent is 100% required. SHE ASKED FOR IT. She discussed victim blaming, and DEFENDS men from people who say things like "well that's just something men do" or "all men are rapists" So please show me which video you're referring to? Because I'm tired of people misrepresenting others to justify their shitty arguments.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 04:03 PM
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Wow, that was a lot of stuff you just wrote. Once more I'll ask, can't we just be respectful of others? If not, you really shouldn't post here because you're making the rest of us look as bad as you.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 03:51 PM
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Thats one opinion I suppose, but why not just be respectful of others? Why not choose to be better than that?
/r/MensRights28/11/17 03:24 PM
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Most of her content was centered around sex education and human sexuality and her opinions on stuff. The SJW stuff was mostly isolated to her other social media. Idk why so many people are incapable of watching content by people they disagree with. Also, can you not? It's a played out meme at best, and a stupid joke at worst.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 02:55 PM
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I've always been a fan of hers, been subbed for years. I don't have to agree with her politics to enjoy her content.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 01:29 PM
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Maybe it's the way I was raised, but I've always been the door holding check taking type. Doesn't feel right to do the opposite or go Dutch. Money all comes from the same place anyway with me and my wife.
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