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| 3 | Modern Feminism: Appalling Stupidity Backed by Hysterical OutrageI definitely think it is better to think of it as a domination hierarchy, with the word patriarchy just being the original word used. The word patriarchy, obviously, coming from the word "father", as in the dominant person in the household. Can you expand on what you mean by "patriarchy theory", though? Also, we shouldn't forget that feminism does not equal discussion of patriarchy (and I can provide some examples if you dispute this). | /r/MensRights | 22/11/14 04:09 AM |
| 3 | Modern Feminism: Appalling Stupidity Backed by Hysterical OutrageBut women aren't blaming men for being victims of patriarchy; patriarchy is the ideology that needs to be abandoned. And as I pointed out with teh first example, women can be victimizers too. | /r/MensRights | 22/11/14 03:28 AM |
| 2 | Modern Feminism: Appalling Stupidity Backed by Hysterical OutrageBut we're not discussing applications, here. I was responding to comments about the philosophy of feminism. | /r/MensRights | 22/11/14 03:26 AM |
| 3 | Modern Feminism: Appalling Stupidity Backed by Hysterical OutrageOk. I'll give a couple examples, then. As was mentioned in another comment, feminism doesn't just talk about the relationships between men and women, but also about oppressive same sex relationships. In ""Lesbian Stalking: An Issue of Horizontal Violence for Lesbian Ethics", Claudia Card explores how women can oppress and dominate other women and the necessity of a feminist ethics (specially lesbian feminist) to help abused women confront their oppressors. In "Discrimination Against Men", Card e… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/14 08:18 PM |
| 3 | Modern Feminism: Appalling Stupidity Backed by Hysterical OutrageWell, I could see how you would think Simone De Beauvoir is crazy mostly because it's just Continental Philosophy, but if you were to ask someone well read in feminist philosophy, they wouldn't suggest most of them. I would suggest Sandra Bartky, Susan Brison, Marilyn Frye, Maria Lugones, Sara Ruddick, Iris Young, and Claudia Card. Going back as far as Mary Wollstonecraft, you would see that it's not about man hating or crazyness. Besides, merely saying "they're crazy" or list people you alleged… | /r/MensRights | 21/11/14 03:12 AM |
| 2 | Modern Feminism: Appalling Stupidity Backed by Hysterical OutrageThe origins of the word does not exclude modern progression, though. The word "fag" and "faggot" for instance refer to a bundle of sticks, but eventually evolved to be a derogatory word for homosexuals. Merely looking to the original Latin prefex would teach you nothing about the word now. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/14 03:06 AM |
| 3 | Modern Feminism: Appalling Stupidity Backed by Hysterical OutrageBut the question wasn't regarding the "average" feminist. It was about feminist philosophy. And that's not true that nobody reads it. Just because you haven't read it doesn't mean that other people haven't. Execution of ideals as part of a movement is obviously going to differ from what some perscribe, but the important idea I'm touching on is that the "ideology" is not about man hating - it's about fighting oppression and domination. | /r/MensRights | 20/11/14 09:31 PM |
| 4 | Modern Feminism: Appalling Stupidity Backed by Hysterical OutrageSo you've got a pretty limited scope. If you want to read a good discussion about the topic, check out Does Feminism Discriminate Against Men? An author and feminist philosopher debate the subject. Additionally, there's a good amount of feminist literature on same sex abuse relationships, which obviously doesn't fit into a male vs. female narrative. Fundamentally, feminism is about fighting oppression and domination, which is not exclusively perpetrated by men and not exclusively suffered by wom… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/14 06:57 PM |
| 4 | Modern Feminism: Appalling Stupidity Backed by Hysterical OutrageCan you cite any examples from this "deep philosophy"? | /r/MensRights | 20/11/14 07:11 AM |
| 2 | Modern Feminism: Appalling Stupidity Backed by Hysterical OutrageHow much of feminist literature have you read? | /r/MensRights | 20/11/14 07:09 AM |
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