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But you can't really dump a lot of new and foreign concepts on them. So I say lead by example, and hope that they follow. That is good advice, I agree with you there. I will see what I can do.
/r/seduction06/10/17 06:52 PM
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Well, thank you for the reply. Let me just say that I find it slightly amusing to receive the type of advice you just gave me. Maybe this subreddit has changed since I have last been here (which was a whole while ago), because I would not have expected an answer like this and my post to be downvoted. I just feel like he needs a wake-up call once, before he starts to take action. But I agree that setting an example myself would be the ideal way of going about it. For me, a few years ago, finding …
/r/seduction06/10/17 06:34 PM
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Seddit normally doesn't like this advice, but why not take a bootcamp at RSD or maybe sashapua? If you have the money, this could be a good investment in your case. These guys also have a money back guarantee, so what should go wrong really?
/r/seduction08/10/13 04:27 PM
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The tips I think are definitely good: 5, 8, 9, 11. Now I do have some criticism on the rest; here we go. 1.Don't play timing games. When you get a text, respond immediately after you read it. The texting must come as naturally as possible. You are wasting time and energy in trying to predict what is the "best" time to respond. You're time is more valuable than that. Don't always respond immediately, sometimes ignoring her messages is actually a way to get her interested. In a recent post some gu…
/r/seduction07/10/13 05:40 PM
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Ah okay, I didn't know that:) Picking up girls should always be secondary interest I feel, primarily having a good time is what makes the awesome nights, girls will follow naturally if you are having fun. Good FR anyway.
/r/seduction09/09/13 10:32 PM
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Some good advice here. I like the direct way of telling a girl that you are going to kiss her. If done smoothly, the boldness behind this will really turn her on. Have you ever thought about drinking less? Because it seems like you could have done even better. Of course, some alcohol is not bad, but less is definitely better I think.
/r/seduction09/09/13 10:20 PM
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In the last months, my philosophy about texting has changed a lot and I will tell you what I mean by that. For me there are 2 different types of girls in regard to texting: The one that answers immediately and wants to chat, and the one that is not so engaged and maybe takes some time to answer. So how do you text them?? The responsive one: This girl will read your message and answer right away. If she does, it shouldn't take you long to answer, maybe 5 minutes at max, because this girl wants to…
/r/seduction09/09/13 03:58 PM
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You suggested being friends with benefits before having slept with her at least once? Don't do that, just say something like "okay, so we both don't want anything serious right now, which is okay for me, but I'd still like to get to know you, let's grab a drink some time". So how do you get out of this? Just tell her it's a movie and that you two should still meet up. If she doesn't want to, then you just move on.
/r/seduction08/09/13 01:10 PM
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I'm also struggling with this, but I think I know more or less what to say. Or actually, not really, I just say what I want, just because I feel like talking about it. That's what you should do. This advice will seem pretty terrible for you because it is very impractical and not usable right away. But you said you can open well. So how do you do it? When you're in a group, just ask "where are you guys from?" and ask them something relating to this or tell a story about where you are from, whatev…
/r/seduction02/09/13 10:32 PM
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I'd say google for some videos on grinding, look on youtube for some kind of tutorial.
/r/seduction02/09/13 10:29 AM
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Maybe some of these videos: Liam Mcrae Richard La Ruina
/r/seduction30/08/13 01:24 PM
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Yeah, but I wasn't at the right location to do this. You see, I just isolated her into another place of the club. No private location yet.
/r/seduction25/08/13 10:14 PM
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Yeah, I'm all for improvising in pickup and not thinking too much, so that is actually a sticking point of my game. Right now I also focus on not drinking much, only a bit of alcohol maybe, so it is sometimes difficult not to think too much and get in my own head.
/r/seduction25/08/13 10:01 PM
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Yes, those psychological aspects seem to be missing for me. Thanks for suggesting this.
/r/seduction25/08/13 08:06 PM
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That is the technique where you alternate between looking at her eyes and mouth. If she starts looking at your mouth as well you can easily kiss her then.
/r/seduction25/08/13 08:04 PM
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Well, this heavy escalation might even work. I'm gonna try that next time.
/r/seduction25/08/13 06:47 PM
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Haha, I sure will ;)
/r/seduction25/08/13 05:26 PM
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Why did you delete your comment? It was very helpful, I think.
/r/seduction25/08/13 03:59 PM
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I didn't mention it, but I did do so, sometimes more agressive, then less wild with another girl, but overall I make sure to be close to the girls and touching them, especially while kissing.
/r/seduction25/08/13 03:39 PM
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I think this is is the answer to my problem, thank you so much. Another commenter said it would be a good idea to make her wait for the kiss and wait until you are near (or at) the "sex location" before you do it. What do you think of that?
/r/seduction25/08/13 03:07 PM
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No one single answer will work because everyone works differently and sometimes people just aren't compatable. This is true. I happen to meet some girls from time to time where I can feel the "spark", and then there are all those girls, where my own attraction towards them isn't even that great. So the girls lose attraction as well and the interaction dies down... Spark that curiosity in her and she will stay interested. Yep, that's the thing.
/r/seduction25/08/13 03:03 PM
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Hmm that got me thinking, thanks for the comment.
/r/seduction25/08/13 02:35 PM
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To be fair, I thought about that. Maybe I'm not as great as I could be, but I don't think that's the real problem right now.
/r/seduction25/08/13 02:14 PM
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Hm okay, that is interesting. I feel like most of the advice here goes towards getting the kiss as early as possible, because it amps up the escalation level. If you could find Sasha's talk, that would be really nice.
/r/seduction25/08/13 01:52 PM
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Wow, this is really good. Great comment! Though I would not say to "watch it all", rather start with some of the RSD videos for beginners, because - as you said - mainly it's about overcoming fears and understanding that everyone can do this.
/r/seduction22/08/13 10:46 AM
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I don't really understand, when exactly you start this. Will you go in with the line "You're my girlfriend now" or only after 5 minutes or so of talking? I think it would be a good way to open.. don't you agree?
/r/seduction13/08/13 12:52 PM
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I like it. This way you are not really kissing her, yet you signal that you would like to do so, which plants the idea in her mind. Still, it might seem strange I think, because if you kiss her you could also just do it right instead.
/r/seduction04/08/13 06:37 PM
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If I was more used to being with females I'd be more comfortable probably. Just to make you feel a little better about this: Many of the PUAs got good at this when they were in there mid twenties or older. I think Style (author of The Game) didn't even lose his virginity until he was 22 or something. Also, in some ways, pickup is a numbers game, so just go out there and have fun and you will have success in the near future. You see, I'm 22 and I have been studying for 4 years now. 2 years ago I …
/r/seduction13/07/13 12:21 PM
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Use an indirect opener first. Just ask for the way to (insert building or place here) to overcome initial anxiety. If you can, make some smalltalk after that, but in the beginning it's okay if you just leave afterwards. After you have done this a few times (and maybe already had one ore two good interactions), it will get easier to approach differently as well. Also you can ask for the time "because you forgot your cellphone". This of course is not the best idea, because you wouldn't be able to …
/r/seduction12/07/13 03:21 PM
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Here's a guide on facebook game. He doesn't write about how to design your profile but the strategy he uses seems to work - at least for him - so I think it's worth a read.
/r/seduction09/07/13 01:33 PM
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First off, congrats on the approaches. It seems like you had at least one or two good interactions there, so that was good. Getting #-closes often does not pay out if the necessary attraction is missing and if the interaction only went okay. When I go for a number I don't do it so early, unless she absolutely has to leave. Also, if a girl likes you enough, she would spent more time with you at that party, so what's the use of getting her number then and there? It often comes of as needy, I feel.…
/r/seduction06/07/13 11:08 PM
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Thanks for your comment (even though it's a little late). So we talked for an hour and everything went fine, probably also because it was her who was talking like 80% of the time. A date for next week is planned. I wasn't really using routines before we were at her place and I didn't use any in our conversation, it seemed unnecessary and we had enough to talk about anyway as it turned out. One thing that was interesting though, is that after an hour I decided to end to conversation, not because …
/r/seduction26/06/13 12:38 PM
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It's always good to have one of these posts once in a while, because it just can't be stressed enough. Drinking may make it easier for some guys to approach girls at the beginning of a night, but if you keep drinking and get drunk, the results will get worse and worse and you will make no progress at all. On the other hand, when you're sober, it might be a little more challenging to get in the right mood, which is a problem for newbies - but, as said in this post, if you can get over this hurdle…
/r/seduction16/06/13 04:10 PM
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For me kino at the beginning of a night is always dificult. Here is some easy advice to warm up: High-five, just do it a few times in your first interactions and you'll naturally start some kino after it. Also, when you meet some girl from earlier that night, say her name and give her a nice big hug and hold her for a second like this. It's always about compliance, try a little touch here and there, get close to her, make your legs touch, brush your armst against her 'randomly', stuff like that,…
/r/seduction22/05/13 03:56 PM
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Incredibly valuable post! This confirms once again that the 3-second-rule is very important as well as talking to everyone, and in general just having a good time because girls will notice. Looking at your post history, you seem very experienced with the game, so I hope you'll post some more stuff like this. Also, when there is such a big group, how would you say a guy could most effectively approach them? Like, the whole, or just a sub-group or a single woman? And what do you think of the follo…
/r/seduction20/05/13 07:42 PM
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(1) Touch her casually first. Brush your leg against hers if you are watching a movie, touch shoulders, then put your arm around her. For more stuff in a position like this just ask her if she's feeling warm enough and grab her hand without asking. Then you may use this as an excuse to check if she's warm at other places as well, maybe touch her shoulders/neck/arm and just keep your hand there. It's important though that she must feel comfortable; if you notice otherwise, back up a little for th…
/r/seduction04/05/13 11:55 AM
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Tyler has a video on breakups, maybe you wanna watch that.
/r/seduction02/05/13 02:05 AM
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If it's just music for the background I like something like this: http://youtu.be/pODVWHng3Z0 The genre is deep house, I think. It's very chill and sets a good mood, in my opinion. But it always depends on what the girl likes. In general I prefer music that doesn't have a lot of singing, because I find it to be distracting.
/r/seduction17/04/13 07:21 PM
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You have to change your mindset. Try to talk to girls out of fun, self-entertainment, and not trying to get their approval. I think deep down I'm afraid if a girl doesn't like me, it proves something is wrong with me. Hate to say this, but this statement actually proves itself. I'm not the best to talk about this, but I'd say you have some big insecurities going on - for whatever reason. Actually, ask yourself what these reasons are. Okay, a certain girl might not like you, but that doesn't infl…
/r/seduction14/04/13 03:20 PM
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One mistake that comes to mind is that I sometimes drink a lot and on the next day I don't remember much of the conversations I had, which is pretty annoying if you go on a date then and you should already know something about the girl. Another mistake would be that it often takes too long for me to get in the 'vibe' and therefore lose a lot of good opportunities at the beginning.
/r/seduction13/04/13 02:53 PM
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Great post. Good to see such an honest report from time to time. One thing I would like to emphasize that you said is that one should really not think too much when opening, rather be spontaneous and say what just comes to mind. This might feel strange for some at the beginning but as you get better you realize that this is the way to go if you want to become natural at the game.
/r/seduction01/04/13 12:11 PM
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When you do the assignments, you certainly get to talk about other stuff as well, so find out what she's interested in and talk about that. Get to know her but make sure she gets to know you as well and then ask her out. She may still decline but that's a risk you'll have to take. 'Moving on' is not even the correct expression here, because you didn't give it a shot with her yet. This quote sums it up: In the end, we regret the chances we didn't take, relationships we were afraid to have and the…
/r/seduction31/03/13 08:12 PM
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The transitions... depending on your opener, there are plenty of ways to do this. I assume you prompted the girl to say something during or after your opener then you can use this 'technique'. The article is basically about how you keep the conversation going as well as interesting by using some simple techniques, so I hope this somehow helps you and answers your question in a way. Of course this is based on the fact that you somehow got into the conversation in the first place but I suppose tha…
/r/seduction29/03/13 07:14 PM
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About that player thingy.. If a girl says something like that just follow the formula: agree and amplify. IMO it is a good thing because it makes you interesting. Think about it, would a girl rather meet someone who can't handle girls well or someone who is confident and is good with girls? Most of the time girls think that I'm older too (I'm 22) and I haven't really encountered a problem with that, because I don't think it is one. Still, since I approach any girl which is not clearly too old (l…
/r/seduction29/03/13 06:55 PM
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Definitely right. Two years ago or so I oftentimes went out with a friend who would almost always pull a girl and if he didn't he would just call another and at the end of the night get some anyway, which was pretty impressive and I as a beginner would just be jealous as shit. The feeling when he got a girl at the end of the night and I didn't.. pretty bad actually, but damn did I learn from him. I remember the first time when we both had success and I even got the hotter girl, but some time lat…
/r/seduction28/03/13 08:13 PM
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Take a glove and fill it with paper, should do it.
/r/seduction25/03/13 04:05 PM
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I like this theory. It's illustrates nicely that by doing many approaches on a certain skill level, your chances of success are actually quite good. I just thought about my rate of success in the last months and I suddenly realize that the value p isn't even so bad for me, considering all the different girls I met in this time. I want to add a little more mathematical touch to this: Say your probability is 10% (1/10). This means that the chance of having at least one success in 10 approaches is …
/r/seduction24/03/13 02:33 PM
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I'm a man and I've done this before with some girls (which I'm not proud of) and in retrospect I think I did it because I felt uncomfortable because I wasn't sure of my intentions. Now why do girls do this? Simple answer: they have lost interest in a way. A girl that flakes twice on you is certainly very unsure about what she wants. Don't call her anymore, wait until she calls, else she's probably not worth your time. Now why has she lost interest? Maybe you didn't build enough rapport, maybe yo…
/r/seduction16/03/13 03:07 PM
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Yeah that's probably a good one, because it's easy to find topics to talk about and because you can joke around a lot. I had an unintended funny "opener" myself this weekend, when I stood up to get some drinks with a friend and after walking 2 meters I noticed my pants falling down, so I loudly said "hey, wait a sec, my pants are dropping" and fastened my belt a bit, when a girl next to me commented how that wouldn't be very good right now in that situation. And then the talking was on, so yeah …
/r/seduction18/02/13 03:03 PM
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decided I wasn't gonna give a damn and just have fun Repeat next time;)
/r/seduction03/02/13 03:31 PM
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Yeah nice, I'd like to know more about how you "picked up the girls again":) I mean, if the other guys are drunk, it's easy to do do this by just befriending them in order to letting the girls know you are of higher status. But what if one of these guys offers you a challenge?
/r/seduction03/02/13 11:51 AM
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I recently noticed one thing when I went out to party. It is much easier to get in the right mood when you're there with friends that actually want to party and have a good time as well, because people (especially girls) will notice that you are having a good time, and this works wonders for your approach. So, if you can, take someone with you who supports you and dares you to do some approaches. A wingman or just some friends and you probably won't have these awkward 'standing around phases' at…
/r/seduction01/02/13 09:19 PM
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Seems very legit to me, it certainly is safe in regard to malware and stuff (I checked that), so in your stead I would register and check out the forum.
/r/seduction22/01/13 09:33 PM
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Check out this or just google munich lair. I'm sure you'll find some good wingmen there.
/r/seduction22/01/13 08:50 PM
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Congrats on the epiphany;)
/r/seduction22/01/13 05:40 PM
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First of all, if you can (and we already know that you tried to) go for the number and not for facebook. Secondly, there are actually tipps on "designing" your profile so that it "gives you more value". But in your case I assume that you just didn't build enough rapport so that this girl is willing to get to know you. As ben0wn4g3 said: Forget her and move on if she doesn't answer soon! Edit: missing word
/r/seduction22/01/13 01:59 PM
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She flakes most likely on you since you didn't really get to know each other (if I understand that right). Besides, what did you text her?
/r/seduction22/01/13 01:02 PM
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Okay, I see. This is certainly not an easy situation, but I'm just asking myself what is going wrong. Maybe you could try to look for some more places to meet women.
/r/seduction21/01/13 12:49 AM
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Hm you could tell us a little more.. How old are you? With whom do you go out? Where do you go? Daygame/Nightgame? What else do you enjoy doing besides meeting women? This is really important, I bet you know the term, it's called inner game, which essentially means that you have to be happy with yourself before you go out and meet people. This might sound cheesy, but what makes you happy? It sounds like you're trying to 'fake it 'till you make it', which is IMO not the best advice, especially if…
/r/seduction20/01/13 11:46 PM
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The great thing about this is that you somehow managed to create a lot of attraction when you first met these girls. Did you use a lot of kino when you first met them, like touching or any kind of making the conversation sexual?
/r/seduction14/01/13 11:08 PM
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You're right, that would have been the best answer probably. I wrote back 'You're wrong, last time I was with a girl is a few months back:P", don't know if that was a good answer, but at least she has answered by now. Next time I'm going for the phone number again, not facebook;)
/r/seduction13/01/13 10:14 PM
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Thanks, yeah that might be a good one but it would take a lot of persuasion skills at that moment I suppose.
/r/seduction13/01/13 08:53 PM
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I would advise not to drink that much. It not only destroys your game but it also makes it much more difficult to recollect what you said and how every interaction went that evening. On the flipside, it makes it easier to approach because no fucks would be given. So better just drink some at the beginning and then slow down because as you gain momentum you don't need alcohol anymore to overcome AA. Anyway, I like your FRs, keep 'em coming!
/r/seduction11/01/13 05:45 PM
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On the HB-scale, how hot would you say most of the women you sleep with are?
/r/seduction01/01/13 03:37 PM
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You got some free shots and that's it. You didn't ask for her number, did you? 99% Chance you could have gotten it, I suppose.
/r/seduction29/12/12 04:01 PM
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If he's an asshole, tell him. This is certainly not the best advice, but I - in your place - would make it clear that he has to stay away from me, even if I had to push him away and get a little physical. Those douchebags need to feel your resistance and then they'll hopefully let go of you.. good luck.
/r/seduction24/12/12 02:16 PM
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Be more direct, maybe a little aggressive (in the good way), escalate as much as you can and always go for a k-close. Try it and don't give up:)
/r/seduction24/12/12 02:12 PM
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Ha yes I definitely agree that a number and an approach are better than nothing;) Isolating isn't that dificult actually, at least when the interaction went well so far. Always look for a reason why you want to move and take her somewhere else, maybe just be honest and tell her that you want to talk to her in a better setting. And most importantly imo, be direct and very determined when you want to take her somewhere else, so that she feels this and is more easily convinced. Big sets are difficu…
/r/seduction24/12/12 01:24 AM
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Yeah and you are right (and I kinda meant that), because that is essentially what happens when you don't care so much, you are not focusing on success or what others think of you, you are yourself and have a great time, in any case. Then you are outcome independent as well. Maybe a matter of thinking, but I hope you understand what I wanted to say now:)
/r/seduction23/12/12 08:48 PM
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Ah okay, well not every detail is necessary but this one is quite mentionable. Maybe you could have gone further with her, don't you think so? And those quick #closes.. I don't like them. I never get much out of them. Don't know if that's different for you though.
/r/seduction23/12/12 08:21 PM
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Ah okay, I think "not to give a fuck" is not negative, it's just a way of shielding yourself and not being needy or something. This attitude is actually quite popular in the community, I think, and for example a friend of mine mastered this (because he really doesn't care about success or not) and he gets incredible amounts of girls. I thought that the 6 points you mentioned could be translated into "don't act like you care too much around girls" which is equivalent to "not give a fuck" (in a wa…
/r/seduction23/12/12 08:14 PM
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hm well that was what I got from it. Like "act around the hot girls as if they were normal" which would mean that you don't care so much.. correct me if I'm wrong.
/r/seduction23/12/12 07:26 PM
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so basically summarized: Don't give a fuck
/r/seduction23/12/12 07:13 PM
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Do you do daygame or nightgame? With whom do you go out with? And most importantly: Why did you stop approaching?? Just do it! If you don't approach, your chances of success or progress are zero, so just do it and "embrace" rejection, learn from it.
/r/seduction23/12/12 03:32 PM
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Very nice field report, I liked it, but I would also like if you added even more details about the interactions (and the ones you didn't mention here) because I'm always interested in the whole thing. So on to your questions. I don't know if my advice is still in time for today (since I don't know where you live), but anyways. So when you call them (or text?) I'd say it's a little odd to go out with them in the very next night, rather go like "me and my friends are looking for some fun, where're…
/r/seduction23/12/12 01:21 AM
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Could that be the killer? I wouldn't say so. If the interaction was as good as you described it, then this shouldn't be a dealbreaker at all, but, you know, girls are crazy and maybe it came over as not only a little too keen but also as weird or needy.. In my personal experience, text game can go horribly wrong, so good luck to you. Maybe you wanna update us on how she responded.. if she does so.
/r/seduction17/12/12 02:02 AM
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Hm number 3 reveals some inner game problems. Maybe you should try to improve yourself first, then continue "pickup". I'd even say by doing that, you will already feel some progress, which will then boost your confidence. Well one the one hand it's good if you're not right up front hitting on every girl, but you will have to escalate (very early if possible) if you want to get something going and I bet you know that;) Actually I think this is a big personal flaw you might have. You are jealous o…
/r/seduction16/12/12 11:36 PM
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I am kind of confused, I mean, you wrote why you didn't approach, but I don't really get it. Reading this, I thought it would have been totally easy for you to get something going with (maybe) both of these girls. While I agree that you shouldn't necessarily always approach, I think that you could have at least interacted with them; and now - since the night continued to be great - there definitely is no reason to blame yourself. Still, I agree that if you felt like you could have lost your mome…
/r/seduction09/12/12 11:09 PM
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I think one problem here is that this girl obviously isn't interested in a solid relationship with you. If she were, she wouldn't treat you like that, and the way she behaves around you (making out with other guys) proves this more than anything. Maybe you don't want to hear this, but I'd label her a slut, or at least very unsure about what she wants. On the other hand, there is something they call oneitis in the pickup community, which means that you focus too much on one girl. In your case, sh…
/r/seduction07/12/12 04:34 PM
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Very good field report:) Especially the last part did it for me: It's worth noting also that my confidence carried over into the next night, where I went to a metal show and ended up K-closing a girl that was there simply because I now knew I could. So basically your momentum of that nigth lasted for another night, which is absolutely great. Actually that is how I try to get in state when going out: remembering former successes; thus I feel like I can do it, whatever comes.
/r/seduction04/12/12 10:34 PM
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Getting a number quickly might sound good, but without having build much attraction I'd say it's very likely that she will flake on you. 'Will she even remember you?' is what you shoul ask yourself and thus make it interesting and fun for her right at the beginning. Your approach was okay I think, maybe you could have written something funny as well, you know for comfort building and stuff. So what did you do after you got her number? Did you continue the conversation a little longer?
/r/seduction25/11/12 06:42 PM
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Yeah I understand what the problem is. There's one more step you have to make if you really want to become better and that is getting over your hesitance. Yesterday I watched a short pickup doku (can't find it now unfortunately) in which some guys were helped to approach women in the daytime, and it was actually really inspiring to see how good it worked for them. I don't know if it's good advice to take a seminar/hotseat at RSD, but maybe you want to try that out.. it's expensive, but maybe it'…
/r/seduction22/11/12 10:55 AM
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Well, as groups like RSD say, this whole thing is to improve yourself, so "learning" this stuff will be weird to anyone else if it's weird to you, because your personality and the way you behave in social interactions would have to change. Becoming a social person, that's what your goal should be, which would ultimately lead to success with women, but as long as you are so insecure about yourself (at least that's what I get from reading your post) I don't see how you could manage to make progres…
/r/seduction22/11/12 12:41 AM
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hm difficult question, I would choose owen, but maybe you should look at some more of their free videos before you make the final decision. I just feel like owen would be better for "real beginners", for those who need much more motivation than a, let's say, at least somewhat experienced person.
/r/seduction18/11/12 07:45 PM
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definitely;) I'm also rather chill when drunk but that night was different, which is why I 'punish' myself with not drinking. Maybe I'll write a field report for my next evening at the club or so, if I feel like it; could always need some advice here and there. Thx for the chat
/r/seduction11/11/12 10:59 PM
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Oh halloween was supposed to be a good evening, I thought I'd drink a few beers, then go out and party with my friends, but as I said it just escalated once again and I was drunk even before we met at that evening:/ I ended up hitting on some friends of my best friend's girlfriend and, to say the least, I was very obnoxious and you just couldn't be around me that evening (also, I don't actually remember this, but I was told). So, my memory blacks out at 11p.m., we have been in a club, next thing…
/r/seduction11/11/12 09:50 PM
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that could have been my story as well (I am not drinking for 3 weeks, since halloween was a catastrophe), so I started going out sober now and it's much different. I am still anxious of approach, but I feel like I already made some progress this week.. My problem always was that I just escalated too much every time I had gone out and thus (kinda like you) only got some girl here and there in the last 3 years.. So yeah, reading your story motivates me to keep doing my sober-weeks:)
/r/seduction11/11/12 06:27 PM
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Hi, I have question. I just installed the app but it doesn't list people near me (I'm in germany) but people from totally distant places. I have even picked out a street from my city so the app should definitely know where I am. Maybe if there's noone nearby, the app just shows someone?
/r/seduction08/11/12 04:02 PM
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