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Like just goto the gym bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 10:21 PM
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I like to be able to sleep at night and not have nightmares.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 10:18 PM
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Thats fair, but you made this post as, so I assumed you gave a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:09 PM
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Stop saying this shit then and announcing it. Anything you say, your opening for judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:03 PM
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"The world should revolve around me and me and other women only" Is that what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:01 PM
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I see it as good she might motivate me to get in better health and fitness than ever before. Rather be with someone like that than some who just watches Netflix and TikTok given the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:59 PM
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Why wouldn't I, she has shown that she actually cares about herself more than a lot of women appear to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:56 PM
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Its that fear that is making you unconfident. Your running wierd scenario's in your head that are preventing you from presenting yourself as yourself. You present yourself as a fearful worried person. The person with the strongest frame always controls the frame. A person will be unsure of you. They will then start to feel your unease and fear and become uneasy and fearful around you. I know the TRP says "Maintain Frame". But it dosn't mean literally. Some states of Frame are better than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:57 PM
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Start selling it to women. ​ Make PPD attractive, make people want it, show other people want it, make them work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:52 PM
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True. The market is the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:49 PM
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So you are filtering out women who demand expensive things and now your complaining? I normally plan a date as something, somewhere I would go/do regardless. Then if she ghosts, so what. If she turns up, I have fun, if she dosn't turn up, I have fun. She is not necessary for me to have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:47 PM
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This should be a sticky in TRP sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:44 PM
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The whole world changes. Its strange. When I started getting into this stuff, I just wanted to find "The One". But when I got good and worked on myself enough..... well I'm guessing I will need to find someone who stands out and dosn't seem the same as the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:50 PM
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What other way is there: She likes me because I look good - "Objectification" (I can live with this because its me and the effort I put into the gym she likes") ​ Anything regarding my job: - Its money. Money or status ​ Social Status: - Yeah, I don't mind this so much. I can get a place on lockdown (befriend barstaff, bouncers, DJ, management, etc) and its my status she likes. I don't mind this. I put effort into it, and it gets appreciated. ​ Emotions, etc - Yeah I make her feel good . ​ Good …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:25 AM
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No thats what we have to do to keep with a hot crazy woman, a lot of men are incapable at achieving this. Hence the requirement for a vert strong frame, dread game to match her dread game, etc. However, we don't go with a hot women BECAUSE she is crazy. We go with a CRAZY woman because she is hot. Thats why some guys say "Don't stick your dick in crazy", a lot of men will go insane. They will fly too close to the sun, kind of like Icarus. Other men will say "Its better to create drama you can co…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:21 AM
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There are women on here saying it is. They are the ones ii am commenting on. I have also left comments saying stuff is outright lying
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:24 AM
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It's the same thing, they read into it wrong. However men on the whole don't brigade together and agree with their delusions , we call them beta orbiter simps and make memes about them because it's funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:02 AM
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The buying things I'm not sure on. But meals and cinema and drinks. Yeah if normally with mates we just take it in turns. This thread is hilarious because normally it's women saying men only treat them as sex objects. Yet if you do anything else, they read way too much into it It's the same as guys who think because a woman is being friendly she is hitting on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:35 AM
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Gotta love BP Simp game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:23 AM
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Gotta love these covert contracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:21 AM
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Are they doing it with just you or every woman? Maybe they are just "being themselves" instead of toxically masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:18 AM
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That's fair, that's full on lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:16 AM
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Yeah god forbid people open up without wanting too get married. Men should be more emotional, empathetic, etc. Next thing, he's stringing me along.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:15 AM
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Low self worth but high net worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:55 AM
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Defo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:15 AM
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Go on a dating app, I hear guys send dick pics without request. You can rate em on their pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:05 AM
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Its a question of where you meet them, You make it sound like women are rounded up into silo's and men pick based on which age each silo holds. I don't use dating apps, so I don't use age filters. When you touch grass, its actually hard to judge a womans age, some look younger, some look older. Obviously older dudes going to teeny bopper places is fucking cringey, but bouncers normally deter those guys and dont let them in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:23 PM
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Exactly, and you can take these answers and use them to navigate the world. If its not true - then the results won't be repeatable (by thousands or millions of men comparing notes online) and you will need to change your model. If they are true, well it is what it is. An average person who just "gets lucky" will not notice this as they will not see the patterns that exist. Repeating it and seeing it again and again however..... But yes there are still outliers
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:24 PM
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It goes both ways, women complain, men complain. It is all part of the gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:04 PM
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So if some guy did it to you. The fact women do it to guys, would mean you would be fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:56 PM
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Look I just questioned relationships, due to what society told me and my own experiences, OK. None of it made sense. Why if I perused a woman and ask her out she would reject me. Yet once I was after her friend and her friend was interested, did the initial girl make all the moves? It did not make sense. I then read about pre-selection and jealousy, and it clicked. I was told all that matters is personality. Yet when I started lifting, more women were interested. If personality is what matters, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:46 PM
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Yep, maybe they are happy with being a backup plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:11 PM
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Granted it is better to be desired than tolerated. Sometimes you can not get what you desire yourself, so you can opt out or tolerate someone. Is it better to tolerate something than to have nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:10 PM
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Like lets be honest, this entire sub is a trainwreck of shit slinging. Sometimes inncocent people stumble into here (may god have mercy on their souls) but that just adds to the morbid entertainment. ​ Granted staying on here for too long, probably will mess with your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:08 PM
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No you didn't you made a post asking why people do this, instead of just accepting it is what it is. Some people like spending their life debating if the earth is flat, instead of questioning why, I accept it is what it is. Do you think we should of done the same with racism, just accepted that it is what it is? What about child abuse? What about murder?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:06 PM
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I said CAN, not WILL. Right I have hands, I COULD get a gun and shoot people right. But just because I COULD do that does not mean I WILL. You COULD stick a fake moustache on your face right now (sorry if your an amputee and you physically can't) but that does not mean you WILL.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:01 PM
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Look mate, people like to debate and explore this stuff. Instead of asking why, maybe you should just accept that it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:57 PM
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Where did I say go with undesirable men. Why as a man would I want to be tolerated over being desired? If you want to opt out, opt out. Its your life, your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:55 PM
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Once it is like that, it will be what it is. Its how do you artificially control population levels that is the question? Only allow one boy to be born per 3 girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:48 PM
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What you do with Pill truths upto you. MRA, MGTOW, etc. Are all options
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:41 PM
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Do ALL men cheat.. probably not. Can ALL mean cheat..,.. probably if they wanted to and were desired by others. Thats for women to navigate. Do all men desire younger women but not act on it...... thats an interesting question
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:22 PM
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Well if they can't get a girlfriend regardless, it won't matter. They will be better off than they were. Well hopefully more content anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:21 PM
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The guys who are having a hard time, its really only their relationships with women where its an issue. If your just playing games and watching porn, that keeps them occupied. Not what I would choose, but still. If they can get a job, then they will pay their taxes. If they have job, pay taxes and have AI girlfriend, how will their dealings with society change?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:07 PM
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It worked for me. I've basically reprogrammed my brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:49 PM
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If nothing else, you can get Child Support from the real dad and have additional income, even if your happy doing another mans responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:13 PM
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Just arguments where the "Its not your child" gets mentioned in anger. That can create doubts and questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:09 PM
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Look at it from the governments eyes. If someone is a single parent, they get welfare benefits. If someone believes they are the dad, then that guy can pay instead of taxpayer money. I don't think its so much about it affecting women which makes it bad, its the money and welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:04 PM
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I used to have an Indian friend when I lived in a different city. He was short. However, despite his rants this his shortness was the issue. Women were very interested. However if they went as far as making a move he would just freeze up. But he seemed to ignore this and just blame it on his shortness. All that said, he is doing well with his life now and seems happy with what he classes as "success", which given how hard he worked on himself, its not a "normie" lifestyle but he has found his ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:01 PM
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Its recognizing whats causing the blockages even when women are interested. A lot of it is subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:38 PM
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Whatever you want to call it. Its frowned upon and marraige is pushed as what you should be doing when raised in this sort of household. Plus the whole negitivity pushed about well just average girls. I was lucky my parents allowed me to go out and do non christian stuff, they just said "Not under our roof". But it still fucks your head up for this day and age. Liek I say, I have had hypnotherapy over some of my negitive beliefs that were holding me back. But it still affects people. And it take…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:25 PM
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It was the whole dating scene misfit that messed me up. Being bought up to look for a serious relationship and marriage when women are going through there "Hoe Phase". If your not indoctrinated into the religion, its a mess. I have used hypnotherapy to change my views. But if I will ever be as interested in "settling" or marraige, probably not, I cannot reverse it back to how it was. STRs and casual relationships are my lot in life now, due to changing my beliefs from a young age, but it is what…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:17 PM
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Fun times ahead. Maybe once humans are wiped out,. The planet can heal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:53 PM
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Well would you class this as a high standard or a normal standard given her situation: https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/321695/i_look_for_men_supporting_me_and_my_5_children https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/321480/if_you_can_t_pay_for_my_outfit_shoes_nails_toes_wax_lashes This is what guys are reacting to. Also why, stay the hell away from dating apps and touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:49 PM
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I'm not complaining. I just don't understand the outright denial of it happening. It does and can happen. Is it common, no. But it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:38 PM
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The AI might wipe out the human race, women will never be approached by a man again. Short men will never be rejected again. Everyone gets what they want, everyone wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:35 PM
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Yes... grew up with christian parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:33 PM
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You just said about looking at people as humans. If someone lies to everybody, he is looking at them like he would another human.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:33 PM
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That's why I think younger women have every right to have very high standards not for looks but for character. Have to screen better. Yes agreed, that is why men being shitty is good for other men. Its easier to appear the better choice, if all else is equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:30 PM
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Why would men not lie to each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:28 PM
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This is low effort rage fuel. ​ Although this post probably makes people feel uncomfortable if it is the truth. Should the OP lie to spare people their feelz, so they can go on living in denial that this stuff happens and everyone is nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:15 PM
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That makes no sense. OP probably lies to men as well. As the human race is 50/50, if he is lying to both, then yeah he is looking at them as humans with rights, as thats how he looks at everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:14 PM
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We know. We have seen womens dating profiles and preferences, the obsess over height and resources, etc. For every man obsessing over beauty (in reality its who looks the youngest, not who is the youngest) and pissing women off. Theres some women online ranting how she is such a high earner and after buying a Ferarri, men need to step up so she has someone to date (I would link it, if I remembered where I saw it) and that men are worthless crap as they don't do this. Its just noise: What I do kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:12 PM
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The male brain is still hardwired to go desire beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:05 PM
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Thats a risk women have to take. Hence there dating strategy is probably different to that of a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:04 PM
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This... basically. If a man has options, why would he not get the best option he can. If a woman spends her younger years partying and not looking after herself, add in high stress job so she can "earn lots of money" (no offense if money is your drive in life). add debt, maybe add in kids, add in not giving a fuck about her appearence or health or fitness, etc. Then what will make her stand out amongst women who do look after themselves and have less baggage. And look younger, etc. Its the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:03 PM
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No one on this site, seems to know what the redpill is. Even most the guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:59 PM
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Why do you care? If a man would rather date a 20 year old or whatever age, thus wants nothing to do with you or women of his own age. So what, you are not a compatible couple. If women of younger ages are not going for older men, then the guy will have to live with his choices. That is on him. So why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:53 PM
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Why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:49 PM
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Its always a risk. There is no guarantee of anything in life. Same with women who choose men. No matter the man, there is a biological risk a man MAY get violent. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. AMALT. Yes if a man has no arms and no legs, there is probably less risk. However a proven track record, probably helps the guys who are obsessed with n-counts. However, these women will probably have higher standards and be after specific types of guys, especially if for religious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:42 PM
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Who is actually claiming they are at the level of Leo??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:35 PM
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The Fuckzone, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:25 PM
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Thats fair enough, that is just lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:25 PM
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So does it happen or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:10 PM
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Going for men with a higher status, better paying job. If your a worker and you only date managers, then you get bumped to manager so you only dare directors. That is selecting men for money and/or status. As the managers became undesirable once you were on their level. Some women won't even date across. Only up
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:22 AM
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Yes by choice. So we berate THEM for making that choice it's not the woman's fault. Shee is just following her nature AWALT. It's the man who made the decision in these occasions. Tat choice is on him. Of course thee woman's gonna use him, why wouldn't she. Next you will bee saying its a ducks fault its a duck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:07 AM
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That's probably his issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:48 AM
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Seeing parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:44 AM
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It's an old article that is well known: https://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/be-a-skittles-man
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:36 AM
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All civilisation do collapse sooner or later. We may be near that point we may not. Maybe we will colonise Mars and they will start from scratch whilst the remaining earthlings have the planet altered by melting icebergs and everywhere becoming a desert. Whatever happens, nature will find a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:33 AM
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Yeah I spelt the first bit wrong. I think society will correct itself or this will be another civilisation that only exists in history books. I'm sure there is probably a pattern of events that leafs to the end of every civilisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:30 AM
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Not leading with your wallet dosnt mean being broke. I've seen guys do the extravagant date thing and yeah it becomes expected as a norm. For me, I know a few places with a nice atmosphere that ain't expensive. Befriending the staff there also gives me that nice bit of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:24 AM
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Anger phase though. A lot of guys never move onto acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:18 AM
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Why do you think all the guys here are redpilled. They are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:17 AM
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This is why I don't do fancy dates at the start. I've spent more on a woman taking her for a fancy breakfast before than I did the couple of drinks the night before.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:15 AM
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If you can't afford to date, go on cheaper dates or really step up your game. Also learn to handle rejection. Become a skittles man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:10 AM
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Men are not born sexually experienced. Chad did not lose his virginity before he was born. No these men fucked around, probably from an early age. Then as they did not have the stigma of being a virgin, they were more confident from an earlier age. In fact if you ask an actual Chad or Fuckboi why they get so many women the answers are stupid, "they smell sex on me from all my hoes", "You just gotta smile", "It's the shoes I wear and the way I lean on the bar". Yeah they unaware they are "Chad".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:06 AM
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If you start a relationship with crazy expensive dinner dates, then your gonna set a precedent that they are the norm for you. It's a reason enough not to do them. "Would I come here normally if I wasn't on a date" I find that's a good question to ask myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:59 AM
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Yeah but your talking about reality....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:57 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:52 AM
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They will find a man. Redpill is more about how not to BE that man. And in some ways it's funny laughing at the guy who is that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:48 AM
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I agree. Seen it play out in real life. Simps love their "Instant famalies"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:35 AM
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Priceless
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:33 AM
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It's just tge way this sub erupts when it's mentioned, the outright denial... yet it happens. Like I said, it's not as though the women start queuing, it's not common. I have no idea about dating apps. I just know it dies happen. Maybe it is weird daddy issues, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:22 AM
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In the apocalypse, yes people will be very reliant on each other. Society will change. Those with nothing to offer a tribe, well good luck. People will form tribes and there will be power struggles. Everything will change. But that's just a fantasy for now. So yeah. Who knows in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:12 AM
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They are not crushing it. But it does happen. Why does this trigger you so much. It's hilarious, mention a man dating a younger woman, the sub goes crazy. I know there is some weird belief that once you turn 30, younger women will be queuing for you, yeah that's not true. Yes some younger women do weird shit and ask about your dad and say they want to fuck him as well, but weird shit happens, that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:09 AM
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Have you never heard of primitive living? Yes I am not going to go somewhere naked, but if society collapsed I reckon I could make do. Yes it would be a damn hard challenge. Yes I am a fan of "Alone"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:05 AM
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Have I been with a woman 10 years older than me. Yes, more than once. Have I chatted with dudes older than me. Yes. Bouncers and DJs as well (gotta get that status by knowing people with status). Have I just chilled and chatted with women older than me Yes. In the bar, I generally chat to everyone and anyone. However I am picky where I go. Clubs you just sort of end up chatting to everyone anyway. Then stuff just happens , the adventure begins, the night takes its course. Some people you see reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:57 PM
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If a man is broke, an older women probably won't want him at that age either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:36 PM
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What does it matter what you do after?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:33 PM
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But has a 30+ year old woman outside your relationship given her consent /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:30 PM
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That's what I meant. Don't just settle for the first women out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:27 PM
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That's why the redpill is viewed as bad. Where have the providers gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:23 PM
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Stuff put on dating apps as requirements. Stuff women say online. Touch grass, the reality is its not set in stone. It's just an ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:21 PM
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I admit I do not have the desire to live off grid, as I enjoy being around people. But for about 3 weeks a year I do bushcraft. So no, I do not rely on society I choose to live in it. I can do survival stuff. Kind of how we used to live before over reliance on technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:19 PM
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No we do not live in tribes anymore. We do not rely on each other like that. Society has grown so large, its money that matters. We do not need a local woodcutter to survive. Even doctors, if one dies, there are many more to replace them. If we lived in atribe and there wa sonly one doctor, then yes, their death would be a loss. These days its just a statistic: https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/covid19deathsindoctorsandnurses2020to2022 ​ Guess hat, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:07 PM
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Given the OPs flair, it is kind of strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:59 PM
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Why would it matter, do they intend on coming back? Do you think they didn't already have a negative view if this how they chose to live? Do you not think maybe the view of women of their own country potentially spoiled the view they may have of women elsewhere? Are women of their own country, entitled to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:58 PM
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Would someone who is 100% masculine be able to survive in the world. Same with someone who is 100% feminine. This is not Game Of Thrones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:56 PM
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It is said that a woman has unconditional love for her children. Maybe this an evolutionary trait for that very reason. So are you saying Hermits who choose to live off the grid, have no self worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:54 PM
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They can get fuck-zoned. Women probably can get friendzoned, they may become friends with someone they desire but who is not interested, but at that point they generally show interest. If they had interest all along or the interest is due to jelousy or pre-selection, who knows. But if your friends with a woman, and hoping to get with her over it and beta orbiting her, then you will do nothing but chase her away. The problem with guys in the friendzone, is they alter themselves and desire her, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:52 PM
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So you agree with them. Simply providing value to myself to myself is never as fulfilling You can exist still by not being of value to others fulfilling as the mutual giving and receiving of value from others You prefer giving so you can recieve and feel fulfilled. That is a choice (a good one) but it is not why you exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:47 PM
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Why are you attaching your self worth to a stranger? To you, is that all your worth to yourself, the view of a stranger? “there are only so many ways to get rejected or ignored. It doesn't hurt at all anymore because why should someone who's a complete stranger have any control over your sense of selfworth?”― Neil Strauss, The Game
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:44 PM
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I would also add Psychocybernetics. Changing your self image can and does help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:41 PM
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Then change your view of yourself or change how you present yourself to others. Be the same inside and out. Be authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:40 PM
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Sadly, I think some people of certain races do feel that way internally, so possibly do have low self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:39 PM
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There are complaints from both men and women regarding this. Obviously relationships still work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:35 PM
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No I disagree, women do not NEED to do anything: the action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background. This is not solely finance related. Yes Hypergamy exists. It is a hardwired trait. You cannot reason with Hypergamy or battle it out intellectually.: Yes there are women who will go with guys earning less. But they probably have other attractive traits, probably status or something like that. However, as is well known: Men TE…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:33 PM
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Well to be fair you are correct. But its still an interesting read. But he is right that she could of phoned him up for that chat. Anyway, whatever, it was all clickbait I believe :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:59 PM
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Fair enough. I respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:54 PM
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Thats what eating is. Food goes in one hole and comes out the other. Unfortunately its generally required to live. If we didn't have to eat, life would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:53 PM
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She wasn't being used. A Covert Contract is not being used. https://dismantledmind.com/covert-contracts/#:~:text=A%20covert%20contract%20is%20an,hope%20they'll%20just%20know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:50 PM
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He isn't complaining. He is just asking if he is an asshole. If he had said he had done this, then complained it wasn't fair, I would be laughing hysterically at him. Please highlight the parts where he is complaining or whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:46 PM
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Its still interesting to see the different views on the situation come out. Not everything can be demonstrated by stats and figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:43 PM
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Be a skittles man: https://heartiste.org/2009/05/19/be-a-skittles-man/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:41 PM
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Be the Skittles man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:40 PM
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Yeah there is a woman saying guys should turn homosexual. Wonder if she tells LGBTQ+ people that sexuality is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:36 PM
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Nah this is actually better than normal. Last time I was on here it was just: ​ "Pareto principle" ​ "But Chad dosn't do that" ​ "N-count" ​ Guys talking about sex factories were women are imprisoned ​ "Guys are not entitled to sex" ​ Then it would just revolve around like clockwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:33 PM
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Well we used to have these sort of systems. Arranged marriages, no sex before marriage, shotgun weddings, etc. But nobody wanted them. So we can all eat our cake and have it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:30 PM
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I'm not who you responded to. I'm just stating everyone is making assumptions. We don't know what they discussed. I'm also in agreement they had a conversation before he advanced, so maybe he was nice to her. Everyone is making assunmptions, he wasn't nice to her and judging it by what we don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:19 PM
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Be the skittles man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:13 PM
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And yet with this guy it sounds like she wanted more. If a guy came up all nice and cuddly, well you would be hearing this story instead: Once upon a time, I fell in love. She was a co-worker, and her name was Brandy. Tall, slender and with long flowing brunette locks and big, hazel eyes, she looked like she had jumped out from a retro 1950's pinup calendar. She was gorgeous. I thought I wouldn't stand a chance with her. She was sooooo out of my league. Still, I grew some balls and asked her for…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:12 PM
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In fairness we don't know what the conversation was. Was he being nice or was he yelling at her? Was he being nice and she was making demands and calling him names like "asshole" (because he stuck to his guns) until he had enough and booted her out? We can only make assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:07 PM
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He said and here is the key word "relative to their competition". A lot of guys let themselves go, stop caring how they dress, just give up on dating, just become very dull, spend their lives just playing video games or watching TV whilst getting fatter and fatter and post horrible pics on dating apps, or just give up on dating altogether, some just sacrifice it all for their career and have no life at all. Some say shit like "Well I'm old now unlike back in the day". Staying better relative to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:00 PM
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Have you tried changing the way you think of yourself to see if there is a difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:31 PM
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Just wear whats comfortable, does it matter if other people think your a slob that smokes weed? Would that improve your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:21 PM
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Red Pill advice, at least originally wasn't designed for the "average guy" living an "average life". Lets say I was still a fattie and I started going to the gym, telling me I won't look any better after I lose weight, whilst it won't demotivate me, I can tell you from living that, that your claim isn't true. But whatever you believe, you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:17 PM
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Bragging and giving yourself internal validation are two different things. If you achieve something and are happy with it. Thats one thing. If you have to brag about it or post it on Social Media and get likes, and don't feel happy about it until you get that validation. Well thats just validation seeking and that will never last. That said, mentioning it and bragging are two different things. Like if I do something over the weekend, someone asks me what I did over the weekend, I will casually m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:15 PM
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But does she truly desire him or did she "settle" for him? Regardless of him being a "solid" choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:09 PM
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Do these women truly desire these men they "settle" for?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:08 PM
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Are you American, your soicety only exists because it basically genocided the native race. Come on, lets get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:05 PM
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Don't you Blue Pill people think kindness and being nice is the path to everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:04 PM
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OK
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:03 PM
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Every relationship I have been in, even a lot of my male friends. All started in a Club or a bar. Maybe I live on a different planet to you, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:02 PM
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Yes, loads of people have as well. The product that talks and walks you through this, has hypnosis as well which makes the challenges easier. There used to be youtube videos of guys doing the final challenge, but they seem to be taken down. That said, following lockdown and my shitty job situation (more pay is great, but losing weekends and evenings isn't), which I am now out of , I am redoing the entire course (which I have outlined) again, next March. At the minute as it being christmas and al…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:53 PM
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The truth is often a bitter pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:46 PM
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Are you talking about dating apps here or real life? Are we talking normal guys or social retards?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:45 PM
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But if you can like buy friends and sex. Does social value matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:43 PM
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This is about self worth. If you do value yourself, how the fuck do you expect others to value YOU as opposed to what you can provide for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:41 PM
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This ain't the future, there is more than the grim darkness of war.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:37 PM
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Life is not fair. Have you not realized that yet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:36 PM
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I know. This place should be Red Pill, Blue Pill vs BlackPill, Doomers and Lazy Guys
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:34 PM
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My 20s were shit. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:32 PM
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Question, do you think advice like "Just Lift Bro" and "Dress sharp" is aimed at normal dudes, or maybe the younger fattie, or someone who only owns one set of misfitting clothes. If they lift and sort their shit out, yeah they probably will look better. So in the case of who the advice was actually intended for, it will make them look better than they did. Its not aimed for people who have their shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:31 PM
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You need the resources of your age. Although a broke ass janitor won't have the resources for a 20ish year old, he won't have the resources for a 30+ or 40+ year old either. And yes, a guy has to be desirable. No one here is intending on purposefully becoming undesirable are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:27 PM
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It happens in clubs and bars as well. There are always the outliers. I am not saying a man should be hunting these people down, but to be in denial that it happens is just crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:25 PM
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I am not saying the majority of 20ish women will want an older guy as a general thing. But there are outliers and it won't be with an average guy that let himself go. But the level of denial that it happens, is just insane. I do think some guys arte interpreting it as once you hit 30+, young women will be lining up. But even The Red Pill does not say that in the OG Content. No idea what the grifters are selling kids these days. Is Andrew Tate even actually RedPill?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:24 PM
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Do you want a step by step plan on building confidence or something, well here you: Wrote down all your goals and who you want to be, how you want your life to be. Read this every night and every morning. Walk around, notice what you think when you see a woman. Is it positive is it negative. Now walk around again for 30 minutes force a positive thought into your head. Now walk around again fior another 30 minutes, force an over the top secual thought of her ripping your clothes off and sucking y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:15 PM
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And where's the data for your "astronomical levels of bitching"? Have you heard or reddit, TikTok, Mumsnet, etc. https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=mumsnet+all+men+are+useless https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=tiktok+all+men+are+useless
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:04 PM
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Are sexually inexperienced men HVM? The reason a man is confident around a woman and is experienced, is because well he has experience. IE by being a fuckboi, a player or a Chad. Unless you mean HVM as in rich doormat simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:01 PM
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Wierd, I would of though a museum would be better than a coffee shop. Loads of things at museums, easier to make conversation than a coffee shop. Run out of things to say "Wow look at that, how does that make you feel".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:56 PM
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It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:53 PM
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I never heard of devaluation. I just read about desensitization, approach until you are desensitized by rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:53 PM
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If your undesirable, do you make yourself desirable. Or would you rather be tolerated by simping with money or some other resource?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:51 PM
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How common is it for a woman to make more? As a generality, is this the general order of things or something less normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:50 PM
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Agreed Then as per the Redpill its a mans responsibility to make himself High Value. Yes there are evolutionary dead ends, but the average guy will probably have one or two things that need working on that are causing him to miss the mark. Most RedPill advice, is not aimed at evolutionary dead ends, or the below average man. They are not the target audience. Although they do seem to think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:48 PM
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But.... if you made bad choices earlier in life, fitness, health, finance, etc they are going to be more apparent. Agreed. I am assuming the guy is working on themselves as they said. I am not meaning a guy who has let himself go and is totally undesirable. Unless he has a lot of wealth or some crazy status.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:45 PM
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Yeah I been reading about these Gen Z breakdowns, there was also one on youtube or something where some Gen Z was in tears because having to goto work, I wonder if its called gen Z, because as Z is the last letter of the alphabet, this is the end of civilisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:43 PM
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The less you try to sell yourself and impress women, the more impressed they will be with you. Well in life, people generally want what they cannot have. A man should not show interest in a woman until she has shown it first, then get her to qualify her before you reciprocate. People generally value that they have to work for. Also add in pre-selection. People generally want that which other people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:39 PM
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Yes. Lets assume we are talking about a man who has value. A man who has worked on themself as per the RedPill states a man should. And a man who has worked on himself enough to be in abundance, as per the Redpill states a man should. Are we talking about men of value her, or just AFCs and Blackpillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:34 PM
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It all depends on your market. If your an EDM fan, and you try selling yourself to the women of a country club, it probably, they probably ain't gonna want what your selling. If your at an EDM festival, you probably have more chance of selling. Same if you hate EDM, if your a guy that loves the opera, you probably won't sell yourself at an EDM festival. Despite there being this 20% of men are attractive and that is it garbage. It is all environmental. The market where you are selling your produc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:33 PM
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People were never rejecting you, they were just rejecting how you presented yourself. Rejection is never personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:27 PM
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Women have very little control over how men behave. Do you think thats a bad thing. Do you think one gender should be in control of the other? Do you believe black people should be slaves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:23 PM
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Genuine Desire cannot be negotiated No matter what a persons expectations are, if they desire you, they desire you. Look at all the unsuccessful men on paper, that do not meet a woman's stated expectations yet they get with. No-one cares what there expectations are. Your desirable or your not. Your just presenting yourself as an undesirable man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:19 PM
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Attraction isn't a choice. Being attractive is. You cannot choose who you attract, you can only choose to be attractive or unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:13 PM
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Yes, men date across and down, women date across and up. A woman wants a mans resources to raise a family with. A man wants a woman to raise a family with, not access to her resources, so he is willing to date down if he is attracted to a woman he wants to raise a family with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:09 PM
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If your reminiscing your 20's then yeah your gonna be full of regret. However its not game over. The game is just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:59 PM
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I'm not trying to tell you what you should or shouldn't do, I'm just trying to explain the "field" as best I can. This is one of my main concerns. If I'm inexperienced, you can't really expect me to become a rolemodel husband right off the bat. If my first ever girlfriend, should I get one, wants to get married etc. within the next couple of years, I will have to break it off My honest advice, here is Redpill advice, so some people may disagree. I am not going to say never get married, but I wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:56 PM
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Lets pretend they do, I really hope OP doesn't think this. Bragging is not-going to help things. Worth is demonstrated, not bragged about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:28 PM
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When people are saying this, they mean you are presenting yourself in a way that makes it look like you think lowly of yourself and its clear as day. They can literally feel the hatred oozing from you. As someone who used to think lowly of myself, yes it does make a huge difference. No I don't walk around saying "Hey I'm worth 500k". Its more like, I had covered myself in shit, and the smell of the shit was driving people away. Once I removed the shit, people were no longer driven away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:27 PM
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Women will suddenly want to settle with you and push for it, either you magically become more attractive overnight, or there is some truth to "The Wall" and AF/BB. Also, women who do not want to settle and just have fun will be more open about it and more direct. Also your dating pool will be different, you will have the women your age, there will be younger women who want to "experiment" with an older guy. As you get into your later thirties, you will also have the women who got married young a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:20 PM
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I agree. And to be honest, according to a lot of women (not all), men just string women along, giving no clear indication that they don't want more than just sex, they lie and decieve and mislead and abuse them. I'm not debating if this is fact or fiction (that men do do that), I am also sure some men will lie and mislead. But apparently its highly common, but as a man, I do not see this. Friends I have in relationships do not openly admit "Hey, I have been telling this woman I want to marry her…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:13 PM
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Look I wouldn't of been as blunt as the guy. But people are not owed my niceness, its a privilege and not a right. Same as if the situation were reversed, if a woman kicked me out for wanting/demanding (we don't know the full story here) more than she was offering. I am not entitled to a lift home (especially if I made my own way there), anything she says that is nice is something to be grateful for, not feel entitled to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:52 PM
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Look if a guy does these nice things, maybe you should appreciate them instead of feeling entitled to them. I probably wouldn't be as blunt as this guy, and yeah maybe I would of been nicer and not as blunt. But thats a privilege not a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:45 PM
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So what the fuck is he meant to do. Let her stay there forever and ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:35 PM
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After they talked for 30 minutes and it felt weird. We don't know what she said to make him feel weird. Was it a civil conversation, was she being demanding, was she being hysterical? We do not know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:32 PM
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Same. That said, she did demonstrate agency, she did at this point communicate she wanted more. So fair play. If she had stayed with him for longer, expecting and expecting him to change, sorry but that is what Einstein classed as Insanity. Its just she had the highest expectations from this so suffered the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:29 PM
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I will actually say she did the right thing, although maybe could of been a bit more direct. But she wanted more, she did communicate that. He did not lead her on or stay with her out of desperation. This is causal sex though, the person with the highest expectations suffers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:26 PM
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Why didn't she ask for more, before he had to ask her what was wrong? She could of phoned him up and laid down her new boundaries, then refused to go over to his. It even says they talked for a bit before he moved in and she pushed him away. Yes he maybe was a bit too pushy after the initial rejection, I agree. But it was only after he had to ask what was wrong that she opened up. They agreed to this. If you agree to something and you get it, why would you think it needs to be renegotiated. If s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:23 PM
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I think the fuck zone for women is the same as the friend zone for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:18 PM
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Actually I am changing my thoughts on this. Actually rereading it: ​ She came over and we talked for a little bit and I went in to kiss her and she moved away. I made a few advances and she rejected all of them and I asked her what's wrong. She said that I only hit her up when I want sex. So she only made her views known because he asked. She wasn't up front about it. She just assumed it would lead to more by the sounds of it without communicating it until asked what was wrong. Of course, men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:09 PM
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Yes people deserve the right to do this. Covert contracts are doomed to fail and so are assumptions. But I don't think the guy is an asshole for sticking to his guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:04 PM
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If its late at night, save the convo till the morning after, if being kicked out is a worry and its late.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:53 PM
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Hew said they talked. He had a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:48 PM
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Yes and also that she said she wanted more and they talked for 30 minutes about it. Yes we don't have recordings of the conversation. But regardless, they did discuss it. Whatever she was offering, he wasn't buying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:47 PM
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Agreed, which she did and he rejected her. BVut a person being called an asshole for rejection, well rejection stings so we can let her off with that. But he shouldn't be questioning himself over a rejection. His self worth should not be based on her calling him an asshole to the point he has to ask people online about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:45 PM
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He had boundries and reinforced them. Should he of lied and decieved her into thinking he wanted more. Or do you think he should of been in a state of desperation he would bend over backwards for whatever a woman wants? He said from the start what he was looking for and stuck to it. There were certain things he would not do, and he stuck to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:43 PM
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Firstly, pressuring will not achieve anything if she does not want it. If a dude wants sex and someone else dosn't, then have options. If you ONLY want them for sex, then that needs to be communicated. But if your not exclusive and just want sex, then its better to have options. However, I do get the guys point, they agreed to only be fuck buddies. In these situations, the person with the most expectations suffers the most. We don't know if the woman was using sex as a tool to lock the guy down …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:34 PM
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Thats fair. Its one of those things though. If I met someone who joined for questionable reasons, but at that point in time WAS a believer, then it wouldn't irk me. But if a person is doing it and its not because they ARE a believer at that point, its different. Life is fluid however, things are not static. ​ Like I know I started the gym for the wrong reason, aka to become more attractive. But now its a habit and I just enjoy it for what it is. So I am a different person to when I started going…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:18 PM
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Just the thought of it makes me uncomfortable. I cannot fathom how some people can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:06 PM
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In agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:05 PM
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I know before RedPill I was a complete pushover, it wasn't RedPill per say that changed that, but guys in the community willing to help me with it. It led me to reading No More Mr Nice Guy which helped a lot. I know people keep saying, all this stuff is non RedPill and you don't need the RedPill for it. But at least in my experience, I had no where else where people were willing to help or at least even point out these flaws. I know the community is generally toxic as f**k, but it can and does h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:02 PM
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In regard to the magic words, there are and there arn't. I don't know if its lack of anxiety, body language or what, but after doing routines for a while and canned material, it stopped mattering what I said. I could say the dumbest stuff ever and get the same response. I still got and still get rejections, but they are no longer as harsh, but I no longer place such bother on being rejected. Rejection is rejection. Its like fear of rejection was what was causing me to be rejected so much in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:55 PM
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Law of Attraction, Huna, etc. Stuff thats more about positivity and gratitude with a spiritual slant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:41 PM
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What do you think happens when criticism is not allowed and even withthe bullying example, you are asking why would should a man need to know about a woman's flaws and behaviours. Why do you want men to not know this stuff, why do you want to hide behaviour of the opposite gender from them. Men can and will be pigs at times. Men do not deny this or hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:27 PM
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Thank you. You get it. Sorry about what happened to you, bullying sucks. But to use guys, even women who do shit like that, are painted as flawless to us by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:25 PM
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This. If your a shit in, questioning why you should be social, you really have no chance, except for apps. Then even if you meet someone, your social skills will suck. Lets not even mention game here. But socialising means you have more opportunity than a shut in. You still have to take risks, accept you may be rejected, etc. However, all it does is improve oppurtunity. As far as the gym goes, its the same, you will look in better shape at a social event, so have better chances, IF your looks ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:23 PM
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I have religious parents. They have tried the "you should find a church with people your age". I just can't bring myself to it, my values and beliefs do not align.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:17 PM
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Behavior like that just really rubs me up the wrong way. I can't help but feel disgust at a person who said they joined religious groups for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:16 PM
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Do you have facebook? Most bars and clubs are on Facebook and have photo's. So you can see what the crowd is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:13 PM
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Your 40 mate. Single mums are generally not an issue at that age. Plenty of women who had kids at say 22, who are now entering the dating market and you don't need to worry about being expected to raise their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:57 PM
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She gains access to whatever resources she wants from the man. That is what the man pays with. If a janitor and a hedge banker were the same in every other way except their wealth and status, then they should both be as attractive. However, an investment banker will have wealth and status, which by marraige, a woman can lockdown access to. If he is not married and just dating, having STR, "Situationships" (whatever the hell that really means), ONS, etc, a woman may not lockdown access. As for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:50 PM
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It means genes ineffective for reproduction are removed form the pool as men cannot make men pregnant. Thus the mutated genes will not replicate to future generations. Evolutionary dead ends happen. Some mutations increase survival and replication chance, some decrease it. With only successful genes reproducing, the ineffective ones dissapear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:44 PM
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Natural Selection. Yes some people may like sexual activities that do not result in survival and replication. If that is solely what they do, their genes will be apologetically removed from the gene pool for future generations. It is a genetic dead end. If men could make men pregnant, this would not be the case. ​ Also men get horny, to some guys, any hole really is a goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:39 PM
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A4ALL: Is becoming religious just because you want to find a partner deceitful? As a guy, I knew a guy who tried be a Morman for a while for this purpose. I stopped hanging around with him, it just struck me as the lowest possible level of simping. He ended up leavingthe Mormons because he met someone else elsewhere so it was defo him being inauthentic to find a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:32 PM
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So you are actually unable to tell if a dress makes you look fatter. Are you retarded? Do you know how a tape measure works?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:07 PM
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Hypergamy ​ Gold Digging ​ Only seeing resources, not a man ​ You tell me?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:52 PM
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You still need to know at lest some basic Game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:15 PM
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Why are you offering to take women on expensive dinner dates if you don't want to. There's a time and place for them. But it's not a first date (as far as I am concerned ( Yes there are women who want them. S9 what. If you don't offer expensive dinner dates as a first date, you will filter these women out. What's the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:43 AM
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Unfortunately yes. It's the ravings of a mad man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:32 AM
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I don't know, but that's what did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:49 AM
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When I was younger I was heavily addicted to video games. I would not hang round with friends as I just wanted to play video games. I am glad I joined the army though as this forced me to give all that up. Also before the Army I spent a year working in nightclubs. Between leaving that job and joining the army, I did change a lot and become more comfortable social wise. But after going through training in the Army I lost all interest on video games and was basically forced to become one of the la…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:28 PM
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Just feel calmer - less anxious. My body language is better. Able to make jokes. Not so bothered about rejection. And just feel like I have some sort of energy flowing through me. Interviews and stuff like that as well I am a hell of a lot less anxious. Mostly anxiety gone and negative beliefs about myself gone. Before - I was intimidated as hell by them. Did not believe I was worthy. Of a woman spoke to me in would wonder why. Would freeze up and over analyse, be stuck in my head. Etc. Now I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:15 PM
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Also women have been deeming it sexist for years: https://theconversation.com/no-chivalry-is-not-dead-but-its-about-time-it-was-174197 They actually want it gone. So give em what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:43 PM
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But the whole premise of "I knew a girl, she was my friend, I developed feelings for her, she didn't reciprocate, and I'm STUCK in the friendzone" kind of suggests it wasn't LOVE or even GOOD WILL you developed for her, if you consider it a drag that she doesn't put out. ​ I know thats why I said, if she wanted to be friends, then yeah but its just friends. I'm not putting my life on hold for a woman who is my friend. I still meet other women, she meets other guys, etc. If she develops feelings …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:35 PM
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Try Mr No Mr Nice Guy. It covers Covert Contracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:18 PM
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Quite crappy dating. Knew a lot of dudes that were players, always wondered what they had that I didn't, what made women want them and made women not want me. Had a few relationships, for work reasons they ended, being in the Army wasn't ideal. Met some girl and got friendzoned after she was into me one night. Went back on tour and was told by some guys to read "The Game". Got a lot more successful with women, left the army, joined a PUA lair, ended up running the PUA lair was loving life. Then …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:15 PM
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Look this is a place for Red Pill vs Blue Pill debates. I was posting some Redpill stuff, for bluepills to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:58 PM
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Yes you are correct on what the friendzone is. Men do it to themselves, women don't put them in it. Like I keep saying, there is nothing wrong with being actual friends. It is good as well, as long as you can let all your feelings for them go and accept they are just friends. Sometimes its hard to turn off desire. Some men can't do that. Also, as has been said elsewhere, Pre-selection. Having female friends (who are just friends) is not a bad thing. But if your into someone romantically and have…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:52 PM
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This whole thread is manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:24 PM
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Ahhh the incel uprising that never happens gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:38 PM
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It's called emotional incest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:28 PM
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If it works it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:22 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:16 PM
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They have "evidence" that women would rather have sex with an actual dog than a short guy or ugly guy. https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/dogpill
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:14 PM
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Incel culture is crazy though. Guys saving hundreds of thousands of dollars for various plastic surgeries so they feel confident to goto a social event. And then there is the dogpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:09 PM
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Is tthe transmaxxing thing serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:01 PM
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I posted it as a discussion and was told to repost as a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:42 PM
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Studies showed that a porn addicts brain alters the same way as a drug addicts brain does. . It's not even just sex, it's dopamine from anything in life. A lot of guys are basically dopamine deprived robots. I did the whole NoFap challenge thing and the world just seemed brighter and happier as opposed to everything being numb. .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:26 PM
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Working through an addiction is hard work. If you look at NoFap partner support you can see men are rotting their brains with porn. If the woman gives him a chance and he somehow works at the addiction, their are improvements reported. Including sex drive. But a guy in that state first has to admit he has an issue. Porn addiction is something I do agree with women divorcing men over. When I read the partner support forums, I felt awful for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:15 PM
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Gym, diet can improve T levels. There's supplements as well if levels are low. Not taking care of yourself plays a huge part. Libido isn't set in stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:10 PM
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Would you say they were compatible. Would you expect a guy to show his desire by expensive dates, etc. Yes I have read FDS, 6 months of paying for dates to prove a guy desires you (not saying your FDS but it's an example). There are other ways I can feel desired ie a woman being enthusiastic about dating and actually arranging spontaneous dates. Even inviting me over, even if there is no sex. But it's all based on experiences where I have not felt desired, so the fact it's different makes me fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:42 PM
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Comfort with no initial desire or attraction normally means "Let's just be friends"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:33 PM
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I've never actually witnessed a woman online or RL say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:29 PM
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They probably grew up being told they were perfect as they are and there is somebody for everybody, blah, blH, blah
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:27 PM
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Same. I am happy I'm not limited in my options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:01 PM
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Fair. In agreement there. If the woman is putting in effort then yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:50 PM
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Game, getting with women and seduction are as old as time itself. From writings about Cleopatra to the diaries of Casanova. And Cleopatra abs Cassanova didn't have any community to help them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:47 PM
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OK let's flip the script. Do women not expect men to show desire certain ways. The exhale expensive dates to show he desires you, etc. Does your level of feeling desired not be impacted by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:42 PM
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There's other ways, women trying to organise dates and being more active than passive, etc. If I have to plan and arrange every date and she does nothing, where's the desire? Even if she just says to come and watch a film after the first date or just initiates stuff, I would take that as being more than tolerated. Plus enthusiasm, etc. Or the "Do you want to come round and have dinner with me and my mum on Sunday" yes in that case she still lived with her mum. But yeah there's more than just put…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:37 PM
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Post nut clarity doesn't kick in until after the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:30 PM
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I've picked up on that. Part of the inspiration for this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:28 PM
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Because it is true. Sometimes the truth is a bitter pill to swallow, but it is still the truth. Are you actually agreeing with this BTW? Do you agree with AF/BB?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:22 PM
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Threatening, begging, buying, etc. It does not work. Then they were tolerating the women and not desiring them. Would you rather be desired or tolerated? I know your trying to do a "but men" but the principle applies regardless man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:15 PM
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They are tryingvto negotiate and as per Red Pill, desire cannot be negotiated. Do you agree or disagree. Maybe quote the redpill at them and hope one day they understand the way the world really works instead of Bluepill stuff like believing desire is negotiable and attraction is a conscious choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:13 PM
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You are trying to negotiate. Women can have all the standards they want, but if someone is desirable, it won't matter. Isn't that what the Blackpill guys keep complaining about when they try to negotiate and demand desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:10 PM
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True. This is also why AF/BB betabuxxing is not always the best strategy for a guy if he is the BB. The same may apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:06 PM
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It's not just hookups though. If I don't feel desired, why am I going to put my best self forward. Your right there is no real way to tell. But I would say there are ways to indicate lack of desire. And I would also say if you truly desire someone who seems to desire you back, it's time to pull out thrr bigger efforts in regard to dating. But not until they show desire. Also like you say, if its hookups then yeah it won't matter. I know some people go straight into comfort style beta game, but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:04 PM
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I know. This is why I am posting something that is actually a RedPill belief "Being desired is better than being tolerated" and also "Desire cannot be negotiated" I will also question if 80% of the guys have even grasped the Red Pill. As AWALT is supposed to mean subconscious hardwired behaviours in a woman, these desires cannot be bargained with, cannot be reasoned with. Yet here they are begging and complaint as though it can be negotiated. Dosnt sound very RedPilled to me. Anyway, in answer t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:57 PM
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If you desire someone, how do you know they desire you back. Rhetorical question. It's probably hard to answer. Somethings in life you have to go on gut feelings and past experiences. There's no definite answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:43 PM
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Undesirable men do not have options. Do you disagree. Even if a man does not have options and "gets lucky" is it really a good idea to just be tolerated for something youbprovide. Obviously, desperation, neediness, clinginess and lack of options, will mean he will not know the difference between desire and tolerance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:40 PM
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Yes then she will not chase because she does not desire the guy. And life goes on. Same with a woman nexting a guy. Life goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:34 PM
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It's not lack of desire. It's accepting its time to move on. If someone is not interested they are not interested. I am not going to spend my life begging and buying women trying to negotiate desire. Begging and buying being simp game. Yes and I am doing simp behaviour and there is no desire, I am being tolerated or used.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:31 PM
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No one is saying the work is over. If you don't keep working at being your best, she will stop desiring you. True desire cannot be negotiated. She is not yours, it was just your turn. Also true desire cannot be negotiated it. So if she keeps desirable, I will desire her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:26 PM
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Well stay on the apps then and double down. Whatever makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:15 PM
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I think it's tougher for women though in this regard. Aat end of the day Simps are gonna simp. Especially if they have no options. If a man is desirable and NEXTs a woman, this will flip the script and the women will chase. If she does not chase, she does not desire you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:55 PM
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I'm in agreement. But why the people on my street. I can find and build my own community. We are not limited by streets. Is that bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:46 PM
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Not everyone who claims to be Redpill grasp that desire cannot be negotiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:42 PM
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Also social activity groups. There's loads of options for people willing to touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:22 PM
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Nothing stopping you meeting up IRL. Or moving. Kinda like the PassportBro's
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:21 PM
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Why are you asking women their permission?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:13 PM
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We live in a more connected world, so community has no meaning or requirement. If we still lived in villages on the whole, everyone would have a purpose to keep it running and people would bond. With Digital era, wfh, etc. Why do I even need to know people on my street? I can select communities at will as they are online, not my surroundings. And if you can't find your own kingdom, well create your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:12 PM
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Half the time, its manipulative shaming attempts: ​ "A real man would raise another mans child" ​ "A real man would do this" ​ "A real man would do that" ​ The women shaming men, want a man to provide whatever it is they want, instead of becoming attractive to the man, so he desires them, she attempts to shame him in the hopes it will manipulate him. This is part of being a real man though. Navigating these attempts to secure you by women you do not desire and still succeeding at whatever it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:31 PM
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That sounds like a covert contract. If you give me something thinking I owe it to you to reciprocate, I don't. Not saying I won't but you creating a mental contract in your head, will not alter my behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:20 PM
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OK, I don't see it as people owing it me nor do I believe I am entitled to it. I pay my taxes for services, part of these services that I purchase are the enforcement of various laws and a justice system. As we as a society, pay taxes, we receive these goods to the whole society on general. But nobody owes me anything nor am I entitled to it. But yeah its just semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:53 AM
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People would be challenged, we would be living to our true potential. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1xtpazv-Kk
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:43 AM
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People do not "owe" you this. People being hostile: Its a weigh up of risk vs reward. Also we have a legal system. However to succeed in society and not end up in a cell it makes sense not to be hostile. Also reciprocation, if I am hostile to people, I will recieve hostility back (from that person or society). Nothing is owed however. Following the law: This is not owed. The law is a set of rule, break them and well live with the consequences. However it i snot "owed". If you can't do the time, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:32 AM
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So you want men to be hurt and to suffer?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:15 AM
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OK Mr cult guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:37 AM
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Yeah..... that's an awesome story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:05 AM
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There is no correct answer. How you respond to their answer though is basically a shit test. They see of your interested in them or their body. And also don't be as blunt in asking in RL. But it's a good point to show actual interest of you want then to at least believe you see them more as a piece of meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:02 AM
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This is actually a stupid question. But it's still intetesting to read the shitshow that follows online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:59 AM
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Fair I can see where you get your views from.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:07 AM
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Maybe it's because I was raised in a family where my dad held quite a senior position and my mum was a payroll clerk. But I'm not after a business partner, when I'm looking for a relationship. I just view it differently. Yes them having a job matters. But there are so many things personality/character wise I place at higher importance. Wealth itself is not something that attracts me to someone in its own right. Also I am happy with the pace my career is going. I don't want to be with someone who…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:59 AM
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I rather would help that's the thing. I'm normally one of the guys who will get the bouncers if someone is eyecoding me because they look uncomfortable. I call that protecting women. Then I come here and get told not to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:49 AM
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So what do people owe you then? What are you entitled to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:46 AM
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What do you mean no upward mobility?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:44 AM
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Like noone owes anybody anything. Men complaing that women don't out out - women do not owe them sex Women complaining about cheap dates (not so much on here) - men do not owe them expensive dates But WTF is the OP on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:43 AM
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I was jumping in on the bit I quoted about guys being different around guys. And if there is a woman in the social group the filters go back on. Also I misread what you put. That said I do know guys who did the normal n-count complaints, married someone who had a reputation, then laugh at other guys dating some with a high n-count. But that is anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:32 AM
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We are not saying we want somebody who is unemployed. Yes someone who can pay their way. However, that is what matters.can they pay their way yes/no. Yes your gonna tell me stuff about your day at work, complain, vent,tell me what Sarah said to you, who is fucking who and all the other gossip. That is a given. But regardless of your career,it will be the same. Now a "Career Woman" is not someone who has a career. It's someone who stays up until 2am working on a PowerPoint presentation and has no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:24 AM
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Its your life your choice at end of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:14 AM
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So of a woman is being assulted by someone else, as long as I'm not hurting her, I am being asked not to stop it even if I could. Say at a bar. I shouldn't get the bouncers or anything. Interesting but OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:13 AM
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Do you not communicate with fellow human beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:40 AM
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Thanks for answering. Happy you found success on Online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:17 AM
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IF your partner has better options available. Have you ensured you are the best option you can be? That is all you can do. Even then there is no guarantee. She is not yours it's just your turn. How long your turn is, maybe forever, well only you can decide how much effort you put into that to do the best you can to ensure the relationship lasts Even AWALT is all women are like that. Not all women will do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:14 AM
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The lower levels of dread, working out and wearing decent clothes are basically just be attractive. Do you let yourself go in a relationship? I'm not gonna advocate anyone applying levels of dread, that's gotta be a choice you make. Can it work, yes. However dread is dread, it is amoral. If you choose to use that,that is down to you if you make a moral or inmoral choice Only you can decide to take the blue pill or the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:09 AM
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How's he gonna store his food for later?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:47 AM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:42 AM
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How? Serious question. I had the same experience with cold approach. Everything was out of my comfort zone, add in doing it sobre. But my social skills got better and better as well. Even if I wasn't "Gaming" and was just chatting. It changed me. And as for dates, if I can cold approach a group of 4 women. Then going on a date now causes no anxiety at all. If I had stuck to dating apps, my social sills wouldn't of grown.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:09 AM
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Too extreme in either direction. If they are the only 2 women left on the planet and I am tge only mam. Sorry folks, its extinction time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:49 AM
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Yep. When I was younger my saving grace was I was out every Thursday Friday Saturday. Drinking got rod of my filters. And pull o clock was a thing. Yet sobre I was anxious and intimidated by beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:38 AM
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Money, sex, power
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:33 AM
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It's a place to test yourself. Over lockdown this place triggered me. Now I find it funny. Not seem Poppy Blu around though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:33 AM
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I read one erotica trilogy out of morbid curiosity. Yeah it was eye opening.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:20 AM
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Dopamine. Your brain gets numbed by what first excited you. So you go from vanilla to weird shit just so your brain can get its feeling of excitement. Then you decide its a fetish and start fucking sheep whilst crossdressing as its the only thing that would give you a dopamine hit thinking you are expressing your natural sexuality. Google the great porn experiment for a video on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:17 AM
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Its a circus. Stick around, enjoy the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:11 AM
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Redpill wives is its own thing. It takes redpill beliefs and uses them to lock down a man for his resources. It's the same model of the world but for different use. As a redpill woman wants to lock down a "captain" to get his resources and commitment they will never want to get a redpill man who wants access to sex. They will face different challenges to men though as they are navigating dating men for access to resources and commitment as opposed to access to sex without commitment and resource…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:02 AM
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There's also DNA editing. We can design and create babies with no reproductive organs so they are sexless. Then we run em off a factory line. Overtime us natural humans will go extinct.. and the new generation can all just work and earn money. The only issue is what if technology fails. But after watching Jurassic Park, I am sure nature will find a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:55 PM
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It's like this rejection of evolution psych. Well we got rid of the belief of a magical man in the sky making us in his image. So that leaves evo psych. Getting rid of stuff is easy, but it's never replaced normally so yeah evo psych wins for me. People on about the problem and morality. Sorry I an the result of a cosmic accident and millions of years of natural selection followed by survival of the fittest. The fact I was not made by magic man in the sky (as that was oppressive) means that a do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:49 PM
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This is also no different to men neither maybe: I think I want one type of woman, yet I respond to women who don't necessarily line up with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:43 PM
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I would actually say "what they respond to" I think what a woman wants A woman thinks she wants A woman says she wants And what a woman respond to are all different things. Anyway watch their actions, it will give the answer to what they respond to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:41 PM
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You asked for solutions. Would this solve the issue or not? We haven't had a decent enough sized war to cull the male population like we have always had historically. This is all new ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:39 PM
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Is banning a woman from reading romance shit in a relationship through same as banning a man from watching porn? She don't want a man to compare her to pornstars. Well what if I don't want to be compared to that dude from 50 shades?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:18 PM
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Also if your not photogenic, it makes no sense to double down looking for someone on an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:01 PM
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Yeah, but to me as a man, not an ethnic woman (why do I care if they like being fetishized or not?), why would it be a bad thing? You didn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 10:42 PM
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Why would that be bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 10:39 PM
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​ So how does that work? Do they say one thing to their mates and than do a totally different thing when it comes to girlfriends? A guy i snot going to say to his partner, oh its so and so she is easy or she is a slut. The same way he will to a guy. Married guys say this as well. Obviously not all. Don't worry virtuous Blue Pilled men, I know your actions and behaviours are more noble than us heathens. But yes, at least from my experience, a guys filters come off when they are not with their par…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:53 PM
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Yeah I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:28 PM
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Ur comment makes no sense. I’m a girl and I was the Sperm that won. I was also in competition and beat out millions of those pesky weak male sperms I guess. I actually realised that when I typed that yesterday. Anyway, if you understand survival is competition, then you already know all this. May the best man/woman win. All is fair in love and war, Etc, etc, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:19 PM
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I read a book on Huna earlier as well, how did that impact YOUR life? Ahhh Huna. Yeah lets just agree to disagree here. I'm not taking this into new age metaphysical dream realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:18 PM
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I am in full agreement actually, sooner or later the answers are to be found inside. One of my role models, Neil Strauss actually said this: ​ We were all searching outside ourselves for our missing pieces, and we were all looking in the wrong direction. Instead of finding ourselves, we'd lost our sense of self. Mystery didn't have the answers. A blonde 10 in a twoset at the Standard didn't have the answers. The answers were to be found within Like as far as "The Game" went, all I took from it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:15 PM
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OK. If I am in a community, like one I have been in before. We actually do more than persue women, despite that being what bonds us initially. Also, there is certain etiquette whilst out in the field, ie the rules of being a wingman. If a guy is shit at following these rules, he will be removed from the community or at the very least have a bad repuatation. Yes us guys are competing, in the sense that women select the best men they can. But its not actual warfare. And guys do work together to he…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:04 PM
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Cool. We are actually in agreement btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:58 PM
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I'm just dubious of anything being anything until a woman mention exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:57 PM
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Its the "I want to be friends first" Logically this sounds like, OK we will be friends FIRST. If a woman had said, no your too damn ugly but you MIGHT grow on me. That would be different. Anyway, I think thats the issue. So they put their life on hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:56 PM
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This is amazing, they are discussing the pro's and con's of going for married men: ​ This is evolutionary and referred to as mate choice copying, it's why some women go after men in relationships or marriages. Someone already went through the effort of sorting through mates, someone has already started conditioning a man to be in a relationship, the good men are taken and so we have to compete for a scarce resource. ​ I've never understood that. Sure, by poaching you're by definition getting a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:52 PM
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Because hearing shit on here, it dosn't sound like they are working on it. Yet on TRP forums, its guys who are working on it, instead of writing a thesis and ranting how unfair it is women can wear make up, or that if a woman is into you but this one time didn't swipe you on an app, the world is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:29 PM
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Fair No I was just wondering if the genders were reversed, would you have the same view. Just wondering your take, I would rather ask questions than just shout white knight without knowing your full range of perspectives on the scenario. I can jump to conclusions though, in the future if you prefer that. I actually have no idea who Charles is, but part of life is haters. So he either accepts it or crumbles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:27 PM
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Ahh thanks. I was wondering if she was looking for a female partner or something and getting annoyed they were into dudes. I had to reread it a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:24 PM
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My partner (34F) and me (31m) have tried on a couple of occasions to be a together over the last 2 years, weve had amazing times together and laugh and love and share almost all the same thoughts amd opinions however... What does he mean tried. He bent over backwards and never set any boundries, thus becoming a boring yes man. Anyway, you tried, it sounds like you failed she has mentioned open relationships twice and both times I have not been able to fulfill this as I do not want it, we got bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:23 PM
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But what about the age gap. The incels will be preyed upon and manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:15 PM
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What so because they are happy on a pic, it is physically impossible for her to leave him? So if he chooses to become a slob, she will have to stay? Like do you actually want women to be property?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:15 PM
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What is a SINK woman? https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomenOver30/comments/18fhcvg/being_a_sink_woman_is_tough/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:13 PM
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Swap your car for a shit one on a first date. It will weed out of she is materialistic. Same as Coffee shop dates, etc. It weeds out the gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:08 PM
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So if I stalked a woman, whilst shouting at her. Would that be OK if I was a stranger? Would you say the same to your daughter (if you have one) if it was her I was yelling at?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:06 PM
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Maybe its the only thing they have in life that gets them attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:03 PM
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Yeah I don't care if it applies to everyone. I am not saying it does. However if it works for me, it works for me. So why does it matter if it applies to everybody? If it works for me and dosn't apply to everybody = it still works for me If it works for me and does apply to everybody = it still works for me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:52 PM
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YES - IF THEY WORK AT IT. Are the guys complaining that makeup is a cheat code for women, out there working at it? Like you seem to know Data Science. If I just buy a book on ML, is that enough. If I just read it, is that enough. Or do I need to work at it and get good at it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:44 PM
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Then why are there so many men without a purpose, without self esteem that are basically just existing. ​ Why hasn't the Blue Pill saved them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:42 PM
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That means touching grass. This is PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:21 PM
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Yeah but they are not having the chronic meltdown OP is. This is funnier than that "make up is deception" thread yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:20 PM
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truth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:19 PM
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Were they exclusive whilst taking "it slow"? Was he not allowed to date around and hookup whilst they were taking "it slow"? Sorry you say they were "taking it slow", what does that actually mean in terms of boundaries? Did he have a covert contract, where he assumed "If I quit dating and fucking, so will she" and did not vocalise it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:18 PM
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The problem is a lot of guys think that means "Be friends with me for X amount of time, then I will defo be into you" as though its set in stone. So they give up all other romantic pursuits and idiolise the woman, granted this does help create new "Friend-zone level 100" memes, so its all good for a laugh. They are never "Just Friends". This by the way, is not womans fault, its pathetic male simping behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:08 PM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:03 PM
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Get off the apps. Their rotting your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 06:29 PM
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I'm not looking for allies. I am not at war.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:26 PM
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Outcome dependency is a totally different topic. When I have done peacocking myself, its normally just subtle things. But things that will get noticed, or not noticed. Its not the be all end all of game. Sometimes, they get attention, sometimes they don't. Sometimes you meet an animal rights activist who goes totally crazy at you. But that another story for another day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:22 PM
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OK.... fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:17 PM
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It does exactly what it says on the tin. It makes you stand out some way. If your awkward and odd, then it will make more people notice your awkward and odd. If your not awkward and odd, it will make more people notice that. It just draws attention, then end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:16 PM
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I'm not denying it. I know people say M3 Model is "Out of date" but there is an art to it being performed flawlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:13 PM
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Mate, whatever you do in life, the haters are gionna hate you. Why are you basing your decisions and life on people that hate you. Being hated is part of life. Go grow a pair.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:05 PM
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Do you drink a lot of energy drinks? I used to get chest pains when I drank a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:03 PM
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I fully understand your confusion and probably why you said what you said. It is just annoying for some of us peeps, who were into TRP before Reddit shut down all the Incel subs, causing them to flock into Redpill spaces. Incels used to be there own thing. Now with the current state of affairs of TRP, I do feel out of the loop. As it isn't what it used to be. Or at least on this sub it isn't. I can goto various Redpilled places on the internet and peeps like Andrew Tate do not get mentioned, its…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:49 PM
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Also, women do not walk around with signs saying their age. I do not use apps. So if someone looks not too young and not too old that is all I have to go off. If I am attracted to someone, get on well and like them, I am not gonna then dump them because some random person will get offended by the age gap difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:39 PM
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I have read it and the Robert Greene books. I have no issues if men want to follow me. But I don't actually want to be a "Leader of Men".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:27 PM
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"YoU mUsT bE ChAd, tHaT dOsN't HaPpEn To ThE aVeRaGe GuY"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:14 PM
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Not on Tinder. But was having a pointless chat with someone on some other app. It just lead nowhere, then she ghosted and stopped replying. Then saw her out in some club one evening, after chatting to her for a bit, showed her my phone. She told me some crap about how she was "busy" but she really likes me NOW. So we got on with it. Anyway, so what. All she could see on the app was my photo and texts I sent her. I ain't no photogenic Chad at end of day and I know I make a better impression in pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:12 PM
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And this is also why guys should learn game.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:06 PM
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I dunno. I started soly because of women, but now I enjoy it for what it is. Low self esteem is sometimes the first step on the road to success.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:57 PM
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Thats Blackpill. FFS, Incels have corrupted everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:54 PM
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Game is game and no matter how successful you are, a woman can still leave you ALWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:52 PM
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What would I have in common with a woman my age, other than my age that is so special?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:46 PM
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Probably had some desperate guy willing to pay him money to teach him shit ("Soz bro, all the bet slots are taken, I can't fit you in", "Oh but I will pay you money kind sir") and is now profiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:41 PM
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Confident at what exactly. ​ Yes an intelligent man might be confident about calculus and working out the statistics on everyones change at being an average man in a bar. But these other guys are confident enough to talk to a woman. So thats all it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:27 PM
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Sounds apretty unique way of Peacocking to be fair. Even on this sub, its getting attention and thats just writing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:26 PM
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Nice execution of the Mystery Method, Mr PUA guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:25 PM
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M3 Model in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:24 PM
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I've been with someone who if I went out for a couple of pints with a mate, would the next day grab my phone and start texting my mate pretending to be me asking about the night before. I wasn't forbidden from talking to a female work colleague but it had to be on speaker phone. If I was away from her, she would phone every hour. I could go on. Granted I should of dumped her sooner than I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:29 AM
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I am in agreement with the second part. Not just because of women and self improvement but the general crab bucket mentality of society as a whole. No one likes it if you say you want to change, it always "Your fine as you are". If you see someone improvement themselves and their life get better, yeah you gotta maybe take a look at yourself, and people as a whole not just women, don't like this. And also the intent of it. I want to be more attractive followed by a complaint of lack of sex. It wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:19 AM
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I actually meant to put "decent" not "winner" They seem fixated on "decent men with famalies". And yeah there are miserable men in marriages, but this sub seems to deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:09 AM
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So of I enjoy doing these things where these women are, are you saying I should pretend to be religious instead so I can find a wife at a church or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:59 AM
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They are assessing men using the following criteria Married and kids = winner Single man = loser
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:50 AM
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You make it sound as though attraction is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:37 AM
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Winners love winning. Lovers hate losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:27 AM
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A mentor is basically a leader. In order to lead you need to inspire people to follow. So yeah, the flashy peeps do get all the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:05 AM
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Yep. It's part of carving your own path in life. With gender roles gone, ie a man gains respect from being the man of the house. Men now can choose their own path, but it's on them to succeed. The journey is what will make them a man. But as soon as we have "mentors" that follow a set guideline, it's really just a new gender role. At the moment if a guy has a purpose in life then yeah he can probably find a mentor. But part of being a man is finding your own purpose and carving out your path in …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:03 AM
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Then a "wholesome" guy needs to inspire men to follow him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:55 AM
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Next post by OP "AITA: I got my first job by cheating"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:44 AM
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This is why I am say the friend zone can be a good thing. As long as the guy ain't simping as is not pursuing the woman. Its pre-selection. At worst, she gets jealous when your interested in another woman. Jealousy = attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:27 AM
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Men are in competition before they are even born. When a man ejaculated, only one sperm will win the race from amongst millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:11 AM
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Developing boundaries is not an act. If you are a yes man and start growing a backbone. That is not an act, that is not manipulation.. its called respecting yourself. What is wrong with that? Also of you dress like a slob. And start dressing more sharply. That is not pretending who you are. It's actually changing who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:08 AM
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Plus pre-selection.. You become more attractive when you have a GF. Hey your already approved by a woman. So in some cases, yeah women do start becoming more interested. It's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:58 AM
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It gives us a community. People like community. We can help each other out sometimes and give back.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:50 AM
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Men have been publishing their tactics online for all to see for about 2 decades now. It didn't take Andrew Tate, to reveal them. Christ the Lay Guide is probably 25 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:45 AM
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Ah your on about covert contracts. Yes they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:39 AM
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I went in a MGTOW sub once and mentioned Game. The level of shit I received was amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:36 AM
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I know what your getting at. I also know a lot of TRP points the blame on men fir being Simpson, betabux, doormats, not having purpose, not having frame, just being a loser, etc. I also know a lot of blackpilled folk are blaming women for everything. Christ, I'm not sure if it's the Redpill Handbook, Rational Male or Married Red Pill that says if a woman leaves you, cheats on you or divorces you it's because you have failed as a man. As its not warm and fuzzy and men will get called out for shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:33 AM
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I know that is one theory. However my own theory is slightly different. Firstly have you ever read the FDS handbook, well I did during lockdown for something to do. It never seemed to mention how to actually attract a man in the first place. Women generally live in abundance. This has proven with experiments on dating apps, tge number of messages they receive is astounding. So there advice is geared towards keeping a relationship or how to filter. The FDS handbook, is basically how to filter and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:25 AM
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People use TRP in different ways. If I say "women are attracted to status" or say hypergamy, I am stating not blaming. I use TRP for sexal strategy, so I look at it through a different lens from people who just want to use it as a reason their life is unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:06 AM
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It is on the person to take action. I'm in agreement however. I was lucky to know guys, who I would wing with and we would push each other to go out and make approaches. So I did not start without help. I generally roll solo these days, winging is a fine art in itself. But in regard to self help. Yeah. I have read a lot of self help books. But have I practiced what they taught, not really. I am not going back through "Psychocybernetics" and some Paul McKenna book slow time. Practicing all the ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:59 AM
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I'm just offering solutions for a problem. I agree it is cynical, but I believe it would solve the problem. But the next problem is who gets to choose who stays from the men. I don't think any men would actually go for this, as its highly unlikely that most men would survive. I wouldn't vote for it. But as a thought experiement, it would change society drastically. I would also say, that if a guy was being used for breeding in this regard, he would probably lose all interest in sex. Then there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:56 AM
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Go out and approach women, and do it over and over and over again. Its like any habit,it can be built.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:45 AM
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Well we just need a larger, vastly larger female population than male population. Then the males will be scarce and more highly valued. But yeah this is not humane at all, reducing the male population to maybe 2 - 3 dudes per city, is never gonna fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:44 AM
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Gotta love the shaming tactics. Charge of Hypersensitivity: The man is accused of being hysterical or exaggerating the problems of men. "Stop whining.", "Get over it.", "Suck it up like a man.", "You guys don't have it as nearly as bad as us women.", "You're just afraid of losing your male privileges." "Your fragile male ego...", or "Wow. You guys need to get a grip."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:38 AM
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Thankyou for explaining what you meant kind sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:35 AM
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OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:34 AM
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OK Feminism is not just one group of people, with a single belief. You get radfems, libfems, etc. Theres all sorts of diversity under feminism. TRP or The manosphere is similar. There is Game, MRA and MGTOW. Now sadly there is Blackpill and other subgroups. But whoever the latest cult of personality is, does not define everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:33 AM
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Yeah, but for a man who has been divorced for whatever reason. Do you not think this is a thing he needs to get hammered into his head. As something he did, made him lose his wife. If he wants to move on, he needs to come to terms with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:30 AM
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I actually don't watch Andre Tate and can hand on heart say I have never watched one of videos. Are you one of his fans? Do you watch his videos?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:27 AM
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No your just very strange with your presence of married man comment. Please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:27 AM
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No please explain to me this whole presence of decent men with wives and families thing, I am still bomboozled.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:26 AM
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TRP focuses on male strategy. FDS suppoosedly focuses on Female Strategy. Different communities, different focus.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:23 AM
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This is weird, even for Reddit. ​ I think he is saying "When you are with a married man, are you not envious and jelous" Or maybe "But I am married, please want to be like me" Anyway, it does sound like he needs to learn to keep frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:20 AM
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Yes, if a man ends upon RP, he probably dosn't have a frame never mind how to hold it. His emotional state will be like a leaf in the wind, triggered by external things. He will be the reaction not the cause. Hence men who end up on RP have to learn to have frame, then hold it. What does this have to do with Married men? Why would we not hold our frame when we are with a "decent man with wives and a family"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:19 AM
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You sound very angry. Have you thought about seeking help?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:15 AM
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I don't spend my life socializing with men and their families. The guy I do know who is married often tells me how he sometimes wishes he was single again. Then his wife shouts at him for whatever reason and smiles and makes jokes with me. She even told him once she was going to run off with me and abandon him. But most people I socialise with are also single. Different lifestyles married vs single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:14 AM
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Welcome to Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:09 AM
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Your basically saying the same thing. However, "She is not yours, its just your turn" is a better phrase than "She is not your wife/fiancee/girlfriend/fwb/friend, its just your turn" What about Destiny (we chatted earlier), was she his, because he was married to his wife when she left him for another guy? Did he own her, or was it just his turn? Also, Destiny like you said was a millionaire? Yet she still left him, even being a millionaire does not let you own a woman. Despite your status, your …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:46 PM
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In agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:41 PM
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she's not yours it's just your turn. So if you date a woman, you own her and she is not free to leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:34 PM
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And yet they can't see the picture. OK, enlighten me. What is the picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:22 PM
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Some men have, some haven't. If you have ever read the Memoirs of Casanova, he was very happy. It actually became a thing with the women of the time, that to be seduced by Casanova was a mark of respect. If Casanova chose not to seduce a woman, she took it very personally. I am imagining however, these womens husbands were not happy if they ever found out. Yes some men have happy relationships, some don't. Saying "Men have never been happy with women", makes no sense. Which men, which women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:20 PM
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No you didn't misread it, I originally wrote it wrong. No it isnt redpill specific. But its about selfishness and selflessness which you bought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:12 PM
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I do remember years ago though. When a well known PUA at the time posted a video on Youtube of him approaching a woman whilst dressed as a sailor. That weekend I went out drinking, I did notice a lot of guys dressed as sailors that night and for the following few weeks on Saturday nights. Quite a lot of guys follow this stuff. That said.... after being in the PUA community, TRP made a lot of sense with field experiences to relate to. It was someone on here over lockdown who told me to read "The …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:08 PM
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Women set the rules for the Game. Men follow them. Like if women started being attracted to guys who walked on their heads whilst being covered in shit. Well tomorrow, men would alter adapt to this and the rules would change. Women define the game, men play it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:03 PM
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Who is actually claiming it works on EVERYBODY? If you are married to a guy, and he thinks your a unicorn so he starts letting himself go, stops performing husband duties (whatever they are), then becomes a slob and leaves wet socks everywhere after he has fapped off becuase you no longer have sex with him because he hasn't showered for a week. Are you gonna stay with him? If a guy gets divorced because of that and he truly believed "But she was the ONE". Is telling him AWALT not gonna help him …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:53 PM
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I think there is some truth to the Pareto Principle. But not in that there is a global 20%. At any one point, in any one situation where there are men and women, be it a bar, a social event, whatever, irrelevent. There will be 20% max of guys attracting the women. I am not saying this is set in stone. Its just a theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:43 PM
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MGTOW and MRA generally hate the "Game" guys. Apparently we destoryed their marraiges. Well... shit happens.... should of learned game.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:40 PM
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True. Its easier to wear slippers than to carpet the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:39 PM
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I think the Blackpills are advocating for change by pointing out how "unfair" it is and begging women to stop judging by height. So one part of the manosphere has it covered. I do wish Blackpill were not a part of the manosphere though. Also its not saying become part of the problem. Its more "This is how it is". Its up to a guy what they do with that knowledge. Or a woman, in regard to Redpill Women. Who use Redpill beliefs to secure men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:38 PM
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I know it won't get me EVERY woman. But it makes it easier than it was without lifting. And yes I know there are women not into men who have muscles and shit. But I am not after a particular woman. If I left, women in general are more receptive. ​ I also know its not RedPill exclusive. I was just giving an example. Most the BluePill advice I recieved in life was "Your fine as you are", "Its the personality that counts", "Just be yourself", "Meatheads are jerks, your different to that". Yet when …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:30 PM
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Its deeper than just choice. I am stacked up weight over Lockdown. Didn't even realise at the time. Its an easy trap to fall into. That said I was a bit pissed off at a supposed mate who said: "I wanted to tell you, but was scared of hurting your feelings" But then later said: "You look like you have lost some weight, are you OK?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:24 PM
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Large boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:20 PM
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Mate no matter how bad you think it is. You probably have it a lot better than some others. Start by looking at what you do have and being happy that you have it. Instead of focussing on what you don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:18 PM
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It dosn't sound like it is bringing them much fun tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:15 PM
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which isn't what we are arguing about. we are arguing about whether it is selfish. Do you belive true selflessness exists. If I do something good, like when I give one random homeless person a fiver on a night out (ritual I have due to Law Of Attraction, don't even ask). It makes me feel good, so I am not doing it for selfish reasons. Should I stop doing this as it is selfish? And yes, if I am out on Saturday night, I do always have a fiver specifically for a homeless person. And also, am I sexi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:01 PM
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What is the obsession with Models? Its just "Be Youself" the novel, from the brief bit I read of it. Sorry, nice try at stereotyping, but a failure. Now the "Alabaster Girl" by Zan Perrion, now that is a real book. Full of beauty, ​ “The beauty song of women is a love song. This is my truth. I love women. I don’t give a damn what others think of me. Let analysts analyze. Let psychologists murmur and suggest. Let moralists tut-tut and wring their hands. Let man-haters roar. I move through life wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:46 PM
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I'm actually still in touch with a lot of the guys I met through those communities and very good friends. But if it wasn't for the community appearing, I never would of met them. Anyway, say what you will. I am still happy about it but do miss those days.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:37 PM
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I am actually in total agreement here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:33 PM
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They also say shit like "Oh he isn't my boyfriend, its some guy I just have wrapped round my finger to buy me stuff" "Oh I am married, but my husband is boring, I love these girl trips away. By the way my hotel is just over there" "Its just a guy I'm dating, I can sleep with other guys" Christ, you don't even need TRP, women Redpill men quite well on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:29 PM
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Chasing women is something that bonds men though. Take a group of men, different socioeconomic classes, different professions, different cultures, differnet stages of life. Assuming all are straight and not asexual, the one thing they will have in common is the pursuit of women. Why do you think these communities bring so many men together. Yeah its gone darker now with Blackpill, but back when it was it wasn't as doomsday and men actually encouraged each other, met wingmen from all over, met up…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:26 PM
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Hello, If you want the original advice from Red Pill regarding relationships, it was to not think about a marriage until you have experienced abundance. Its basically the same advice women are given, to date around and have fun before marrying. Why should men not be allowed the same advice? Yes plate spinning exists, so does women dating multiple men and having "Rosters". Its no different to what women do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zhUxuaGMUA
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:18 PM
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Why does being aware of women using the power they have over men, make him not RedPill. Seriously, you said the same to me. I am aware of whats going on out in the Real World. I just don't need to have a meltdown over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:09 PM
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Some women like men with beards, some women like men with tattoo's. If I grow a beard or get a tattoo, am I exploiting people like some sort of drug dealer. When I goto a job interview, I wear a sharp suit, and make sure I look my best - is that wrong as well? I also trim my beard every so often so it dosn't look a mess - is that exploitation? I also wear clothes that are not too baggy and not too tight so it shows off that I goto the gym - is that exploitation? I also generally wear clothes tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:04 PM
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There are. They are just "Invite Only". Following the whole PUAHATE thing with Elliot Rodger and the Julian Blanc thing. Anything remotely related to mens self improvement has moved underground. My best bet for you is to just find a book like "Way of the superior man" and "No more Mr Nice Guy". Then join a FB group for said book and hopefully the teacher will appear when the student is ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:34 PM
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I'm in agreement with what you say. But for me, it was PUA forums and Redpill forums that led to being motivated and encouraged to make the changes I made. If someone else or another community had encouraged me as much, then yeah, I would be singing their praises instead. Yes going through the stages of grief is an indicator that there is something wrong. I was completely rewriting the way I viewed the world and felt like I had been decieved and lied to for the majority of my life at that point.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:26 PM
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You have lost me now. If I get more options, by just lifting, for example. How am I cutting down my options. Me before lifting - maybe a pint poured over my head, guys punching me in the face because it was funny. Me after lifting - Women actually initiating conversation with me. Men stepping out of my way and giving me the nod. Please explain how I am cutting down my options? ​ And yes - I had shit younger years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:19 PM
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I agree in some cases its like giving dynamite to children to play with. There are some darker aspects of Game, I stay away from. I have no doubt they work, but it is dark shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:15 PM
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OK, which women do I "Hate". The ones that dumped me for someone of better social status. Why would I hate them, its in their nature? The ones I couldn't get because I was a doormat. Why would I hate them, its in their nature to not like men who are doormats. I could go on. After the anger phase, comes acceptance. Yes I was angry at myself, for not doing the things the Red Pill advised. But the hatred and anger is over now. Unplugging or “taking the red pill” is common red pill parlance for “com…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:07 PM
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So if I had a son and told him: Son you gotta have a mission in life, spending your life persuing pussy will get you nowhere, focus on something you have passion for. Even if you get a women, you gotta keep on top of your shit otherwise she will divorce your ass as there will be better men avaliable because you have let yourself go. Also don;t be a fat slob as lifting will make you more attractive. And finally do not settle for the first women that comes along, you need to sample abundance befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:54 PM
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Some woman at my old place, made a big thing of how she dumped someone when she found out he was "To young" for her. She was 29, he was 25. Then she got confused when nobody really gave a fuck, she was telling a bunch of guys. She sounded quite confident, then after 5 minutes started asking "But he was too young for me, right"? It was funny in a way. Watching someone go from totally confident and full of themselves, to questioning their choices, just because everyone was indifferent I just ask, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:03 PM
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I honestly have no idea. I cannot grasp the idea of staying with someone abusing me. So for me, I would dump the person. I don't know how else to explain it. Look I am just explaining my thought process. Me - gets abused. Me thinks - hmmm this is shit Me dumps person abusing me. That is how I operate. Sorry if that upsets you. If I stayed with a person abusing me, would that make you happier?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:01 PM
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If it “worked” I would be much less judgmental. Most red pill guys I met are socially awkward weirdos. Yeah, its not a on/off process. If a guy is socially awkward, reading TRP in itself wont fix that. He will need to touch grass and develop the social skills he dosn't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:58 PM
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So if I am getting abused, my thoughts should be on what some random desperate internet guy thinks. Not how can I get out of this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:55 PM
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Sometimes you just gotta make a judgement call.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:53 PM
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There are certain things which I have as red-flags, if they happen on a regular occasion, its game over for the relationship. I have been in shitty situations and ended them. Yeah, you know what in the future, I may encounter something I have not encountered but that is on me to learn from. However, even if something shitty is happening to me, the last thing on my mind is going to be desperate guys wishing they were in my shoes. As if I am in a shitty situation, why would I even be processing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:51 PM
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Is that actually a woman's experience if your dating younger man?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:43 PM
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Women seem to be really averse to it. Some woman at my old place, made a big thing of how she dumped someone when she found out he was "To young" for her. She was 29, he was 25. Then she got confused when nobody really gave a fuck, she was telling a bunch of guys. She sounded quite confident, then after 5 minutes started asking "But he was too young for me, right"? It was funny in a way. Watching someone go from totally confident and full of themselves, to questioning their choices, just because…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:41 PM
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Also point to add. Being stuck in the Anger Phase isn't all their is to the red pill. To quote "The Rational Male" Unplugging or “taking the red pill” is common red pill parlance for “coming to see things as they really are”. In this case, it would be men dropping the mistaken assumption from society and embracing the manosphere theories and tenets. Rollo Tomassi says there are typical stages of the red pill awakening: Denial – refusing to let go of previous beliefs Anger – awareness the pill ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:38 PM
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I fully agree with everything said in the "Rational Male". However, instead of being angry and demanding women change themselves for me, its more how can I use the knowledge of the way the world operates to improve my life. I'm not an MRA
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:26 PM
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And of course you would have been one of the good whites supporting the underground railroad. I have reread OP 3 times and have no idea what you are on about. The fact that everything is framed as ifs isn't great as far as taking you seriously, fyi. I'm not even disagreeing or anything with what you say, just that maybe you have less to offer here than you think. I just type what I type. I have no idea if I'm offering anything or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:07 PM
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Firstly, the girlfriend would get dumped. Why would I stay with an abusive person? I wouldn't enjoy being abused so I would dump them. Secondly why would I care what some desperate guy thinks? ​ EDIT: I would happily advise guys on what to look for, to avoid this stuff and explain my story. But once the info is out there, I have done my bit. A man has to forge his own path in life. Making mistakes is how we learn. They either go through this and learn. Or they don't learn and never progress in l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:40 PM
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You can doubt it all you like. Look I wasn't born into the RedPill. I spent a lot of my life quite BP'd and it was pretty crap to be totally honest. Then someone introduced me to PUA. And things got better. But it was very counter intuitive, like why do I need to be with other women for women to find me attractive. When the general advice at the time was "Just be thyself" with no context. Yeah I am happy being myself now, but at the time I didn't understand it, so it was useless advice. Anyway, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:38 PM
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Then what? I follow RP advice that works for me and I get results. Yeah So I throw it out, then what I get no results. Why would I want to do that? How would that improve my life?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:23 PM
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Or maybe "I'm sick of single guys crying, here are some positives"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:17 PM
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Its probably the spending habits he dislikes, not the wife herself, and she probably has other habits and behaviours he has no issue with and probably likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:15 PM
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I’m talking about the privilege and power dynamic they enjoy with people they AREN’T dating. Erm yeah you just did. Why are you letting women have privalige and power over you because of their make up. Why do guys do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:03 PM
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Its the "Just Lift Bro" thing for example. Women shout "But I don't like muscular men", "My partner is not muscular". Yet if you just lift "Bro", women generally find you more attractive. No one cares about individual women, its about being generally more attractive overall to more women. Like, why do people find this hard to grasp????
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:02 PM
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Do guys who find TRP and "Game" care about what women who are not their type are into. If loads of guys get together and say something works, then if it works it works. Maybe its not a universal truth, but who gives a toss. If it works for the guys who use it, why would they not see it as a truth? Its just a toolkit at the end of the day. Use it or discard it. As per the very first words of the Red Pill handbook Version 2.0. It clearly stated in the RedPill sidebar, if something works keep it, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:00 PM
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Before the Redpill turned into its current Blackpill state, it wasn't just ancedote examples. It was guys from all over sharing notes and discussing things, then noticing patterns. Same with PUA which came before it. If its all a load of bad crap, then why did guys find so much success after realising they needed to change from what BluePilled dudes, simps and AFCs were advertising, and also the advice of women in regard to dating as a man. I'm not saying its an absolute truth, but there is some…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:57 PM
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OK bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:48 PM
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I just read your first man bashing statement tbh. Not the rest. Ahh here is a woman, who yeah fair you said is unattractive to everyone. I thought you were just gonna bash men, so I just glazed over it. ​ Sorry, as a guy, I am used to being blamed for everything wrong in the world. I know because I have a penis, the death of 6 million Jews is my own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:46 PM
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Men behave like Simps. Thats a man issue to fix. Maybe more men need self respect and need to control the thirst. If a woman is not reciprocating, then maybe stop bending over backwards for her. Have some goad damn self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:44 PM
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I'm just going by what she put out there and what she said. Thats all I can go by.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:53 PM
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Why there's so many contradictory dating advice, from "treat women as everyone else" to "treating women as everyone else will get you friendzoned". It's just that every person is different so one works for one type of person and the other works for other type. This does not mean that you should never be honest about your intentions if you are attracted to her. Also, treating a woman like a goddess and putting her on a pedestal instead of treating her like another person, isn't healthy either. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:52 PM
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Are you stupid. Yes women wear makeup, yes it makes them look more attractive. Look, welcome to real life, when you see a woman, even if it looks like she is wearing no make up, she probably is. However, if you actually have a relationship with a woman. Seeing them with no make up is part of it. Its life, you just accept that. If you can't handle that women use make up, its probably best you don't have anything to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:44 PM
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So that defines her attractiveness for her whole 39 ripe years of age? Did she focus on attractive qualities or being an Alpha Female Boss Bitch Babe Career Woman, or whatever its called? Look I don't know her. I don't know her life. I don't care tbh. However, I am 40 odd years of age, and I know there is nothing about her that makes me want to even go on a date with that, yes she could probably make herself look attractive to appeal to guys in her age pool. I will give her she is not obese. How…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:29 PM
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Lesbian relationships have the most arguments and divorce. Gay relationships have the most sex. Take what you will from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:10 PM
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Leader/follower = yep Leader/Leader = nope, heads clash, arguments, etc Follower/Follower = nope, nothing gets done, no one takes the lead on anything Then we have "Joint Decisions and open communication" so compromise and working together with no leader and no follower.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:09 PM
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Look no-one wants her. Hence she made the video, If guys wanted her, would she be making this video and seeing a matchmaker? Attraction is not a choice. Being attractive or being unattractive is a choice. What choice did this woman make?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:07 PM
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I am about to hurt some feelings. There is a lot of men in these comments who are nowhere near type A themselves, but have a ton of opinions on a woman who can perform their role better than them. It's absurd. When was the last time a woman who is not a complete desperate bimbo offered you anything in the first place? Why are you getting discriminatory towards a female you did not and could not fuck? ​ Have you watched the video. It is a woman going to a matchmaker because in 38 years of life, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:06 PM
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Exactly the matchmaker was just being honest and didn't want to waste their time or this womans money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:02 PM
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Yes and she said she don't want no Beta male. IE a person who will just do as she says. I am not saying it is the man who has to have the masculine energy. She defo has masculine energy, but with it being that strong, she will need a guy with fenminine energy. I would say dual leadership would work, if neither party is overly masculine nor feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:01 PM
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not only 38, the "Ripe age of 38"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:58 PM
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Meditation probably would help clear her mind. But she don't want any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:57 PM
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Exactly, would you rather live the life of Jordan Belfort or get with this woman and marry her up? This is the type of guy she is looking for in regard to business success. But do these types of guys want her, is the question. But its not really a question, she has already answered it by making this video.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:49 PM
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Do you think that there might be guys in that 90% who... Maybe there are. As a general rule, do women with the traits of the TikTok woman, find dating easy or harder than women without these "Traits". Only life can answer your question. Attraction is not a choice. Being attractive is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:47 PM
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She decided to persue a life where she developed traits that are not attractive. Sorry it is what it is. If you disagree, then why is she even seeing a match maker? Anyway, the video itself: Her "Attractive Traits": ​ Organised Like to be the leader Looking for a man who is always a leader At or above same income level Ambitious Ready to get married High Strung Type A ​ Are they attractive or unattractive in a woman who is at "The Ripe Age of 38"? Life has the answers, she is single, paying for …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:42 PM
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It crazy how a lot of guys would rather remain single and sexless rather than goto the Gym and not watch porn. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:04 PM
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Look thank you for your honest answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:53 AM
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Part me of me thinks, this must be a British Phenomena going by this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:31 AM
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The only thing fir sure is you will miss 100% of the swings you don't take.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:57 AM
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A priest would just be a cel not an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:54 AM
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Read the complaints about male attention and catcalling. I think they might see being invisible and ignored by everybody as a good thing. Where as a guy passing his driving test, and eevviing his engine might be the first time in his life he has had attention from a lot of people. Why do nice guys finish last? The bad boys are the ones who get noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:38 AM
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Why would a guy get praise for going with a pro? Any guy can do it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:34 AM
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Yeah but you noticed them. Being a douchbag is better than being invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:26 AM
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I think for us males, it's for literally the attention itself. Sometimes with you women, I think it's more fir the validation from the attention, ie compliments. I could be wrong. Like if I revved a car attention. Yeah, no one is going to like me or compliment me for it, but I'm being noticed, which is the idea to be noticed. It doesn't matter if people want to kill me over it, if means I'm being noticed. Where as I think a lot of stuff women do (I may be wrong) it's more like "I've had a bad da…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:25 AM
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Look mate, I fully agree with you here and you are spot on. But yeah... this doesn't help either. "Just stop being needy bro" whilst true does not help. Yeah outcome dependence is not good. But how the hell do you go from outcome dependent to not being so and also in a way to encourage guys to do it (assuming you actually want to help them). I myself... I don't fuckibg know. I've done meditating, quite a lot of stuff by Hypnotica and a lot of NLP. Yeah it's helped a lot. But the ""average guy" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:45 PM
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Well you do you. Hope it works out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:29 PM
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I know. Its not "Game" is the unknown secret society thing it once was.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:27 PM
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I don't know what this is. Like, who needs a guide on simping and beta buxxing, it's natural to most guys Next he will be looking at dead bedrooms and asking how not to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:19 PM
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Nope A quick look through his videos and nothing that would really come up in my Youtube search criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:37 PM
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Yeah same. Leave the children to being children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:36 PM
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Why is it ok to have a height preference yet it’s not ok for men to want a woman that’s younger? If you are not after their approval, then why do you care? If you can get a younger woman, go for it. Why do you care what other women think?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:22 PM
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The guy running the video creeps me out more than some dude who can chat with women. Yes I know this guy has a GF, I googled him. But looking at his room, I am surprised. And that Metal Gear Solid quote thing, cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:21 PM
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Dread Game works. If it works it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:15 PM
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Why do you need their approval on who you date?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:06 PM
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Interesting, I did not know that. Maybe we should of just stayed in Caveman times.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:01 PM
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Look at that journalist who ended up killing herself in part because she went undercover as a man to expose male privilege, but found out it doesn't actually exist. She killed herself, damn! I thought she would of been reminiscing the days of being part of THE PATRIARCHY. And having nostalgia over the magical world of men where everything is easy and handed to you on plate with no challenges in life what so ever. Yes I was being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:56 PM
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Er nope. This guy actually does need to "MAN THE FUCK UP". This is what happens with a lack of "toxic masculinity".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:50 PM
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If a man is on TRP, he probably is there due to limited options. He knows this as it is his reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:29 PM
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I wouldn't have what problem? I'm not the one who has a problem with female friends??? The firend-zone isn't a problem for me. I don't need to be with every women I come across in a sexual or romantic way. I can just chill and be myself. I'm not necessarily gonna start hitting on another women if I am with a female friend/acquaintance, but I am not gonna simp for them either, just because I am man. If they don't like me being attracted to other women, thats a them problem not a me problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:04 PM
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Fair I am in agreement. I do not go out my way to flatter women by spending money on them, so I guess I do not attract the women that desire that. I happily pay my share though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:01 PM
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Because men don't usually say "dating gets harder for most as they get older, especially for people who don't improve/take care of themselves".... Right, firstly TRP which all this is based on.... was designed for men. If a man has reached the point of going down one of the manosphere rabbit holes. He dosn't need to be told dating gets harder. He already knows that, what do you think got him into that rabbit hole in the first place. When I was totally shit at dating. I didn't need someone to say…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:58 PM
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I end up offering to pay for women sometimes. But 50/50 and all that. Women are more than willing to offer to pay in my experience. Sometimes I would say a bit too selflessly. But hey like the Incels like to point out, I am 6ft and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:15 PM
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A man who likes women is liked by women. Do you actually like women, as in being around them, unless its just for sex? The Friend Zone issue? What a man simping a woman not because he likes being around her, but because he thinks the harder he simps the more chance he can get with her, after claiming to only want to be friends and nothing else? The friendzone is a problem that us men create for ourselves. Sometimes you got to be willing to be honest about what you want and then be willing to wal…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:13 PM
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I can’t find anything interesting when it comes to being platonic friends with women, our lives seem too different. Just talk and listen. Add "I feel" onto the front of whatever you say. Maybe look in their eyes every so often and say "I understand" Then they will open up more. Talking is nice. Being surrounded by feminine energy is nicer at times than being surrounded by masculine energy. Like just stick on a film or something and talk about it. It’s not that it’s impossible it’s more about bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:57 PM
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Lets normalize people never dying. That will alter reality right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:49 PM
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Have you tried telling some of the guys on PPD to touch grass yet? Let me know how that goes. Anyway, the answer is they are just complaining. I was around in some of the earlier PUA days. Guys would actually encourage each other to go outside, compliment each other and encourage each other to be the best they can. It was great. Now these communities are blackpilled to hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:47 PM
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Same. There are groups that are private and underground. Its best they stay that way. Otherwise they will become the next PPD or infested with Black Pillers shouting "How tall are you" or "What about Chad".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:39 PM
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Thank you. Was just wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:09 PM
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Who struggles the most without regular external validation from social media? If we stripped men as a whole of all validation recieved from Social Media and did the same to women. Imagine, just no-one giving validation to anyone. But relationships still happen, people still love each other, etc? Who would struggle the most?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:49 PM
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So people have sex and the amount of people they have sex with can be counted if one so desires. Then life goes on. Until one day you die.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:45 PM
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Genuine hypothetical question: If you met a guy, who didn't treat you like shit, who you found attractive and enjoyed having in your life. Would it not be enough to enjoy his company and it be whatever it is? Why does the "timeline" need to be added if you are enjoying whatever it is you have? Not sure if I chatted to you about this yesterday. ​ “We have this idea that love is supposed to last forever. But love isn’t like that. It’s a free-flowing energy that comes and goes when it pleases. Some…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:43 PM
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I still stand by, women complaining about the double standard of men sleeping around, can be changed by them congratulating each other every time they get laid, instead of slut shaming each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:25 PM
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Look we are all going to die. A lot of people die in a slow painful way. A lot of people are murdered. Some are beaten first. That is just an observation of the world. It is neither meant to make people feel good nor bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:21 PM
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Its just written in a crass and crude way. Remember, theres no such thing as bad attention. If people get triggered by it, then they will advertise it and draw more people to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:17 PM
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I don't understand the denial of "The Wall". Lets use a "Chad" as an example. Chad is a guy who smashes the gym and can go on dating apps and easily get hookups. Sooner or later, his crutch, in this case his looks are going to fade. Maybe he gets into a relationship and lets himself go a bit. Maybe after 5 years of being in a relationship, he decides he wants to go back to sowing seed. Now as Chad has let himself go, maybe he is no longer the captain of the football team, maybe he has gained wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:12 PM
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When I talk about using it in relationships. I don't mean every single day is like this. Just when arguments do rise or disagreements do happen. I'd rather have a way of dealing with it, that works, rather than ending a relationship over one argument. And validation seeking for stuff like going to the gym, doing basic ass stuff, I dunno, like why was I seeking it in the first place? Do I need validation from a partner for doing stuff I would be doing anyway? If she wants to validate me then cool…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:54 PM
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Thats cool. At end of day, its advice written on the internet. If it works for you, cool, use it. If it dosn't, discard it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:51 PM
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This is the key difference between mens dating advice and womens dating advice. Even the men on this are giving this guy shit. Look at womans dating subs, similar gender swapped Ops will just be responded to with "Your a Qweeen", "You go girrllllll", "Its all mens fault, you are perfect", "Your a prize, its their loss". Bitter people are gonna be bitter. Haters are gonna hate. But men actually give advice to each other. Women just enable and encourage shitty behaviour (at times).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:49 PM
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Men are a monolith remember. Not individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:45 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:42 PM
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Some of it makes sense, when its stuff you can apply to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:38 PM
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I know, this is just pathetic shit. But hey, women want men to be more emotional. So here it is. Enjoy the show folks, witness a guy taking a womans advice and what it achieves. Please remember to purchase your popcorn on the intermission.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:38 PM
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Cool so how do your arguments go? How does seeking validation go? I apply this in relationships and it works wonders. Woman starts yelling screaming t, whatever, I just stand there, leave her to it, she gets over it, then starts crying, then starts hugging me. Now in my BP days, I would engage the argument and it would get worst. Maybe your experiences are different? Anyway, if whatever your doing isn't working. Then why not try something new. It may work, it may not. If it dosn't try something …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:33 PM
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Mate, read Married Red Pill, despite you not being married you really need to apply the advice to your own life. SHUT THE FUCK UP If you are new, and reading this, I guarantee you that you have no idea how to STFU. Even guys who have been here a while still struggle with their STFU. First of all, let’s cover this: you do not talk about fight club. You DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB. YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB! However you want to phrase it, you STFU about fight club. There’s no point in step…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:19 PM
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Yeah, I know what the community says is different to what the OG material says. The community is toxic as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:03 PM
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Some actually are more mellow. Some are just in a rush to rush through a relationship. Dating Apps probably don't help (like i said somewhere in that thread, since I stopped using dating apps, women seem more mellow overall), its too easy to associate unattractive behavior with age and just apply filters. Also older women, well any woman using a filter on a dating app, would of been an instant, nope for me. At least the ones where it is obvious. Obviously you cannot apply a filter when you actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:49 PM
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I'm back into lifting, now i have sorted out a toxic work environment and moved onto a job with better actual work/life balance. It does make all the difference. Part of me wishes when I was younger, I hadn't been duped into the "No your nice as you are, you don't need to get muscular", "Its the personality that counts", "Looks arn't important" blah, blah, blah. But hey I chose to use that lame ass stuff as an excuse not to goto the gym, so thats on me. It is what it is. I'm glad I have changed …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:38 PM
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These are all good traits to have, IF you are already attractive, fun to be around, etc. FML. Women probably are looking for a man to have healthy, lasting relationships with. Hell go into dating subs women are complaining that men don't want this. However, first the guy has to BE ATTRACTIVE. You can be a boring fuck with good traits for a stable relationship, but your still a boring fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:26 PM
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This subreddit, across the board, seems to think women overestimate their appeal in the dating market and that their standard are too high, and thus, they should settle. Dating subs are full of women complaining about how men won't settle and how they want a relationship, a family, etc, etc. If what you are going for is not working, the approach used needs to be changed. If they want a "Chance" with a guy, then fair, but then there is no need to complain. If they want a guy to "settle" for them …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:19 PM
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I doubt the Skittles man had a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:57 PM
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I think its more to do with status, not the actual act of writing a thesis itself. I dunno, thesis/no thesis. Whatever.... But I'm a guy so shrug.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:52 PM
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So the people banging uneducated men are probably mostly uneducated women Browsing this sub, you wouldn't believe that actually happens though. I'm in agreement with you by the way, and this is no way a shocker to me. Believing this dosn't happen seems very detached from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:50 PM
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WTF is jestermaxxing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:27 PM
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Thats brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:26 PM
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Are you even interested in a guys personality? Or just if his timeline is the same as yours? Is interrogation all there is to your personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:53 AM
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I didn't put the sarcasm tag on. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:38 AM
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Wow congrats you got negged. Is that an achievement now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:10 AM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:02 AM
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Stop it with being logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:37 AM
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Observervant you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:34 AM
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He can still admire Di Caprio. Di Caprio is an inspiration to us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:26 AM
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Yeah first date is like meet and greet. Is there an initial spark. It ends, you go home and then you either want to see her again or you don't. Add this shit to it, and yeah I ain't gonna enjoy the date and nope I ain't gonna wanna see her again. Rather just have a pointless conversation with some barstaff or something. Jeez.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:06 AM
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As a non marriage guy, I just dint need to earn as much as the guys I know who are married or LTR. Yet I am probably more comfortable money wise. I can afford my lifestyle. Sure if I were married I could "Earn more". But then I would have to work more and let's be honest, the extra income probably wouldn't be disposable, so I'd really be no better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:34 AM
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That's pure chuckles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:23 AM
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Yeah its oxytocin. Its a feature of humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:21 AM
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So feminists want that which they destroyed. This is the funniest shit I have read all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:17 AM
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Because we perceived them as easier where as if a woman's hot, it will take effort so not worth it fir just an ONS. It's like the old joke: What do ugly girls and scooters have in common? They are fun to ride as long as your friends don't see you on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:14 AM
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Send me the money. I will invest on his behalf. Does he have bitcoin. /Joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:09 AM
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It was women who were initially ranting that looks don't matter and its pers9nality that matters We had this fatties writing "This is reverse rape" on their bodies. Then we had the propaganda from films like "Shallow Hal". And yeah then dating apps appeared and it was all a bunch of lies and deciet (what a shock). So ya know what. Yeah men are shallow but at least we own it. Anyway the genies our the bottle now. I
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:08 AM
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No but looks are a barrier into further stages of dating. Woman A = ugly but shared interests Woman b = attractive and not shared interests Woman C = attractive and shared interests Woman d = ugly but no shared interests As a guy I will approach/message Woman b & c and then choose between them. As women b has no shared interests, she is gone so that only leaves Woman c. Men approach women and women choose the best from that pool. A man approaches women so designs and builds his own pool of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:04 AM
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Bruv you are not retaining for long enough. The walls? What if I were to tell you there were no walls?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:56 AM
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It's strange, once I left the dating apps and went back to cold approach/warm approach. This shit you described stopped happening. Not saying cold approach is easy or super great results. But when it does work, the results seem better than many of the interviews I won on dating apps. When you go on a first date and get asked:how much do you earn, when will you be promoted, what's the payrise. Even if you win that round of questions, it's time to finish your drink and not have a second one. Like …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:48 AM
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But if you never get to experience someone when their not vetting, ie they're being themselves, authentic, how can we be ourselves as in behave/act like we would when we are not on the receiving end of being vetted. If I feel I am being interrogated, I play games to see how ridiculous I can be yet believable. Like of first question is what do you do for a job? I know I am being interrogated and my finances assessed instead of someone getting to know me as an actual person, so yeah I'm gonna answ…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:41 AM
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It is what is. I am not campaigning for electricity to be switched off, roads closed permanently etc. I could. But I don't but I accept it is what it is. Well yeah of course its another stage. We are entering global warming. The next evolution of life will probably be water based life, after the ice caps melt away and we drown or choke and burn. I hope the new species do a better job than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:24 AM
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Women don't have plates, they have a "Roster". Have you not watched TikTok?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:20 AM
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Yes you are correct. This is what the RedPill states, any bad thing that happens to you in a relationship is on you for choosing it, so learn to vet women better. Assuming women are angels, is never going to end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:17 AM
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Sorry to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:58 AM
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Yeah we have made loads of species extinct, destroyed trees, destroyed land, pumped god knows what into the atmosphere, I could go on. We have destroyed the planet we used to have a balance with. So yeah great idea. lets double down on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:43 AM
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The obsession with the "Revenge Fantasy" is amazing. Does it live rent free in PPD's members heads for them to obsess over, like an incel obsessing over n-count? "The louder they squawk, the closer you are to the truth"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:37 AM
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I don't buy into the would, could and should, sorry. Life is what it is. Even if it "should" be something else, it isn't. I like to focus on what is not what isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:34 AM
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I find it explains life to me in a way that is understandable. You may disagree with this, but for me, it helps. Plus.... it is damn f**king interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:13 AM
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Same. I know some women who say they have no interest in marraige, they have done it and hated it, for whatever reasons and are in no rush to marry again. Its great, you can just enjoy being around them, as much as I used to hate the phrase "Just be yourself", yeah you really can "Just be yourself" (I understand it now, yet now i understand it, that advice is pointless, those who need it, don't understand it) and they can be themselves. There is no agenda (sex is just icing on the cake) and no e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:12 AM
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Does evolution have morals? Survive and replicate or be unapologetically removed from the genepool? It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:03 AM
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It makes the women feel like they matter, "He wants revenge on me" is better than "I don't exist to him". I dunno. But yeah I just find it weird. I had relationships in my 20's. I would not shoot down any woman from my 20's IF she is the best catch from my options. Like I say, I don't understand the Revenge Fantasy trope but whatever, it sounds like a cope. If i had not worked on myself and just let myself go. Yeah things would be different, I would just be another older fat guy with nothing goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:58 PM
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Think about caveman times. If you sent pregnant women to hunt the mammoth, you may not only not get a mammoth but the future of the tribe is at risk if a woman died. One man can impregnate many women, so it makes sense that in those times, women were more valued. There is evolutionary sense in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:47 PM
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If you mean the Tom Cruise film, then yes. I have seen every Tom Cruise film, don't ask why. Does the military beat empathy out of men and women? Yeah to an extent. Yeah its to make them good soldiers, I have been in some situations and yeah, being highly empathetic would mean I would of been a risk to the lives of people in my unit. That said... there is a bond in the military that I have never really experienced in civvi street. The military knows we will never really care about the mission, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:45 PM
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Religious parents so I have had all sorts of weird stuff to work through. Probably what led me down some of the darker rabbit holes. But now I just focus on self improvement stuff. I know I am never going to be a normie, in regards to views on relationships but it is what it is. I have found my happiness after some dark times. I still believe in the old saying "Leave them better than you found them".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:31 PM
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I was actually going to ask about brothers, when you said you didn't know any men like that. But only thought of it once I clicked reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:28 PM
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Yep, this rushed relationship thing and interrogation to keep up with your friends is not attractive. Like maybe these women are amazing. Who knows. But because they do this, it kills the attraction I have. Maybe it works with some guys though, so yeah we are a bad match. I dunno. I am not in a rush to just rush through a relationship so I can tell my friends "Yay, I am married too". Thats just not how I roll. Its about the journey not the destination.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:26 PM
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Same when I was like 18, my confidence and style sense was non existent. Did I look better, I don't know, maybe if I had the same style sense then and trained and ate like I did now, yeah I would of looked a hell of a lot better. But from my own experience, as I get older, dating gets easier and women make moves on me more than they did before. So yeah in my eyes, I am more attractive now than I was then. "The men age better" is spun out of context. Read any OG RedPill stuff, and it clearly stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:23 PM
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21 convention does not have one grand philosophy, its different guys with different views. There is no over arching tenants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:12 PM
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Never heard of Sebastian Junger I don't think it should be as brutal as some of the olden day stuff. But.... all I can say is. During Army Basic Training, even those who did not make the cut, they were changed people. Its amazing seeing loads of guys go from zero to well disciplined unit that operates together as one. This will probably piss off a lot of guys on here, but I think one of the issues today is self isolation with guys sitting in rooms playing video games, not socializing and also ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:10 PM
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Fair, at end of the day the slowest person sets the pace (I don't mean slow in a derogatory way). Sure other person may not be happy, but I am sure they know where the door is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:07 PM
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yeah there are also laws against rape? Yeah I agree. ​ never in my 37 years have i known any men like this ​ Fair. I'm ex army so if this sort of shit happened to any of the girls in the unit. Well... may god have mercy on the souls of those involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:06 PM
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Yeah I have never been told just "Its your fault", there has always been concern but then there is always "Why did you do that" or "What the hell were you doing there". Obviously not every bad choice is a well known bad choice. Some choices are bad no questions asked. But yeah, hindsight, sometimes something innocent can turn out bad. But I still want to know how I can stop it happening again. When I had the shit beaten out of me when I was younger. Yeah my parents were worried and concerned. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:03 PM
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I am working on self improvement. And yeah thats why I specifically mentioned the self hatred and blame being bad. That stuff is toxic, look at some of the posts on here by more incel type guys. The hatred they project is probably coming from hatred for themselves. I have been on here before and mentioned self love and self forgiveness, but its just gets laughed and sneered at followed by "But Chad dosn't do that" or "How tall are you"... If people want to improve, the desire to do so needs to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:00 PM
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Yeah some men can not cope. I'm all for bringing back initiations into manhood and trials to prove yourself. But we live in a lefty society so thats "not nice". So now we have weak men, it is what it is. I sure as hell didn't vote for the current state of affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:54 PM
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I was referring to the ones who are misleading. Yes some people are honest and genuine. But that brings us back to square 1, how do we tell which is which.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:52 PM
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I'm confused why self-blame would be helpful in this circumstance. Because until I accept responsibility for my choices, I will never be able to believe or see that I need to work on myself. Blaming everyone else, implies I am perfect and without flaw. If this happens a lot, I am obviously not. Unless I take responsibility, I cannot change anything. it's entirely possible you could vet better *and* be hurt again Yeah, your correct. But luckily I have my entire life. Life is a work in progress, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:51 PM
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I used to know a guy. Every single night without fail, he would pull a different woman. He was quite good at it. I don't know what his game was. But I can make some educated guesses these days. Anyway, he got the action, I got the women weeping at me, the following night when I would be in that club and he would be pulling the same shit on some woman sat next to the woman from the night before. I think this is why I am so jaded. I was quite a simp back then so would buy those women drinks and ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:45 PM
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Yeah, with friends, family and special people, well they get special treatment., But randomers on the internet have not yet earned that level of treatment. Why would they have?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:42 PM
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Well first you get to know them. Then you gotta see if you get on well. Then you need to live with them for 6 months to a year, to see if your compatible like that. At that point, yeah if your open to marraige maybe its time to pop the question. But being open to marraige does not mean, marry the first thing that comes along. Are you more bothered about "being married" or is it more about the perosn?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:40 PM
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How do you know if they are a good choice if your making wedding plans on date 3. Christ what is it with these relationships on steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:39 PM
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Theres actual laws against that shit. Or do you not know guys who can just beat the shit out of these dudes at your request?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:37 PM
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Who cares, you have still got a bullet in you. Are you happy to take lead as long as you can say "Its their fault". Do you not even stop and think "Hey this is a bad idea", or do you just not care about getting shot becuase, hey its someone elses fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:36 PM
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Yes they are responsible for their actions. But if a person dosn't care what damage their actions inflict and are only bothered getting what they want, what does it mean "They are responsible for their actions". OK, lets say I get with a woman and she takes all my money and boots me out of my apartment via nefarious means. She is responsible for her actions. Yeah OK cool, well I still have no money and no apartment. Just chanting "She is responsible for her actions" isn't going to change anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:34 PM
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They are misleading them to get whatever it is they want. Whatever that maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:29 PM
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Look if its a dude, who has gone through shit. He gets a night at the bar, to fet drunk and unload emotional shit, with no judgement. After that, its case closed. If he makes the same sort of choice again, assuming the first time it happened really was the first, he will become known as a simp. Thats how it works where I'm from. What you women do, apart from rant its all mans fault, and expect us men to somehow modify the behavior of all men via the imaginary Patriarchy weekly Zoom call is beyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:21 PM
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Then find someone who wants to support you? You have friends right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:14 PM
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Its like when you know a man is actually bad news. Some women you know is into him, you try to warn her and all you get is: "Don't tell me how to live my life", "Your not in charge of me", etc. Then he beats her black and blue and its like "Well told you so" It would be funny if it actually wasn't funny in the slightest. Call me jaded, but people are gonna do what they are gonna do. As long as they are not actual children, they are old enough to make their beds and lay in them. Fill their crack …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:11 PM
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A 3some dosn't have to be a devils 3 way
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:00 PM
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So be different, get ripped or die lifting and be the "Masculine Painter". Then start a youtube channel and profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:52 PM
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For where I live its the most convenient gym. Its not an OTT priced membership. There are 6 or 7 different gyms included in the membership scattered over the city. The one near me, has an OK weights area, as long as its not too crowded. The site in the city centre has an Olympic sized swimming Pool as well as a slightly better gym. Then there is the £15 million site, with the indoor running track, high jump, long jump, boxing gym as well as 3 floored cardio setup and a nice large weights room. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:35 PM
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What else do you want us to say, when you come crying to us. ​ We men do not hold a nightly Patriarchy Zoom Call, where we discuss what we are all upto. At end of day, shouting and screaming at other guys over a CHOICE you made, is on you not me. Same as when men pick women who are bad for them. THEY chose to be with that women, End of. We all make choices in life. We learn from them or we don't, the ball is in our court.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:29 PM
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THEY DON'T NEED NO MAN DAMNIT.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:06 PM
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You take what works and discard the rest. As stated in the Red Pill Handbook, The Rational Male and many other RP teachings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:03 PM
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Its good on a personal level. Its a dog eat dog world out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:02 PM
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Standing out is what you want to do. So yep. Hardly anything new though. This is classic PUA teachings. Don't do what everyone else is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:01 PM
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Fair one I get it. Have been that guy before.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:33 PM
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The gym needs to sort it's TV out. Noone cares about some simp called Tom becoming a Chef. How about something more simulating for a gym. Like I dunno Rocky.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:17 PM
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Guys don't discriminate!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:15 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:11 PM
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Like what was described and you said sounded depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:11 PM
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On that note, I'm off to the gym, Time to lift to failure. Get ripped or die lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:46 PM
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I am a VERY strong woman ! If you can not handle that, please move on! I have been through a lot, I don't need a man ... " That just always reads as "Please move on" to me and I happily oblige. How is reading that shit meant to make me interested in someone. Just imagine dating someone who keeps saying that shit. Hell Nope. At least pretend to be a human and able to keep normal conversation instead of telling us how strong you are. Noone cares. But its a good thing to put if your that way inclin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:42 PM
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Truth, its simple survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:38 PM
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Its just life. You get over it and shit gets better, or you carry on like that and shit gets worst. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:35 PM
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Baby Oil, gets the you the best tan ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:30 PM
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Die Hard
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:29 PM
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I don't care, I keep my options open, its even stevens. The hypocrisy is actually hilarious though. I used to know a dancer and had free entry into a strip club. Yeah suddenly "The Rules" changed. Well they were supposed to change for me, not her, of course..... But anyway, luckily that relationship just drifted apart after that chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:20 PM
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The worst bosses I have had have been the yes men. The dudes too afraid to say anything out of fear of rocking the boat. Women bosses have generally been OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:16 PM
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Even as a dude, I wouldn't call that Gold digging. Thats expecting a dude to be able to support the lifestyle required by what he desires. Like no-shit a SAHM is gonna need her expenses paying for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:12 PM
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Sorry but wtf. How does that work, surely getting a GF would boost the dudes esteem, so he wouldn't be so loserish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:09 PM
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Maybe they are hot. Maybe people are attracted to them. Maybe they have giant dicks who knows. Maybe they have something someone else wants. Why does someone need to be some specimen of maturity perfection to be in a relationship? Just because you creep em out and make them feel unsafe energy, dosn't mean everyone else does
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:05 PM
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Frankly I think it's kinda retarded to try to blame half the human population for some kind of generalized behavior unless its men of course, everything is their fault. Choose specific instances of bad behavior and test whether the actors are being held accountable. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:43 PM
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Thats why you don't get married. Just keep your social skills up and your shit together. Most men don't so you will be the most attractive option out of that pool of men. Then as why know, women would rather share a hot guy than commit to a lower guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:30 PM
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I'm not sure. Ideally I would say just be indifferent to them. I sure as hell am never going to respect (as in be in awe) of a simp or compliment them on their life unless it's workplace related. But giving them shit ain't gonna change who they are either. So just indifference I suppose. My gut reaction to simping is pure disgust but acting on that would be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:36 PM
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That's a tough question.if someone makes you cringe and want to chuck up in your mouth, it's hard to be indifferent to them to the point they don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:31 PM
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Your probably boring and don't excite them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:29 PM
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Disagree. However if you don't love yourself it WILL be harder and you will probably never reciprocate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:28 PM
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Some guys are just lost with no purpose. I've done the whole attitude of gratitude stuff, so I can generally be happy just due to gratitude for basic stuff. But that isn't mainstream its a niche thing, also its not really guy thing either ybh, but whatever. Some guys seem happy when they are playing video games and escaping reality but RL does nor hold the same level of interest for them. If I am not constantly challenging myself and setting goals, I know I start down the depression cycle myself…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:09 PM
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If you can work on yourself and make yourself attractive, fair. If your just complaining and taking no action, my response is the same. Saying its not fair, is moot. Evolution is not fair, it never was and never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:56 PM
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A Hot funny woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:55 PM
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Truth. Be indifferent until they give you a reason not to be. Women of Beauty can be found anywhere, look around you, what makes you any different from everyone else? Then when she answers, either fake it and be interested in whatever she says and make her think she won you over. Or actually vet and fob her off if nothing about her is interesting. SHowing interest in them before they show interest in you, is how rejection happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:49 PM
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Maybe they have nothing to be happy about or haven't learned to be grateful for what they do have or maybe they are depressed, suicidal. Who knows? Maybe their relatives died, maybe they watched their friends die slowly, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:42 PM
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It's really annoying that being autistic makes dating so hard when you're a man. Like pretty much everything else is fine for me, except dating. Oh well. Dating is the only thing that really reveals your flaws. However props for becoming attractive, you took action which is what counted. Im not a fan of apps myself and do prefer bars, but... I can see why for you, my choice of hunting grounds would not be ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:37 PM
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How you take care of your body speaks volumes about how your personality and lifestyle. Saying but "what if I have a medical condition" means you are genetically deficient. Its quite simple really. If your fat and think it's unfair you are viewed as unattractive it's because you are lazy or genetically flawed. The end. You serve no purpose in furthering the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:19 PM
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Getting women, is what makes Chad Chad. If nice hguys giot loads of women, being nice would be Chad. Women define Chad, The Alpha Male, etc, by their choices. Chad == The man that is chosen by women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:51 PM
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Still better than a nice guy who gets nothing. Hell they don't even have a chance to get Herpes. This is what women like (otherwise he would never of been married, never of had the chance to cheat, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:49 PM
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https://www.napoleon.movie/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:40 PM
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Look I could go onto loads of feminist YOutube channels, look at FDS stuff and see women hating on men. ​ Ya know what, I CHOOSE not to. If your choice in life is to live like this, then good for you. What ever makes you happy. Is there much of a market for these sorts of videos then with women as the audience? How many other women watch this stuff? What sort of videos do you watch specifically? Sorry, just doing some market research, as thought mens channels were dominated by men as the audienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:42 AM
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"Cuz men" /sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:31 AM
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Jada was friends with Tupac but there was no romance. Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:13 AM
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Shame we will never know. Dammed anonymous forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:50 AM
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I used to be on a FB group called "May the frame be with you", no idea if it still exists, there was some FB group drama which was quite intense. Anyway someone did an actual cost analysis of marriage vs hookers. Made an interesting PPT presentation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:27 AM
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Congrats bro Keep it up. Rejection just means they rejected your approach not you. But glad you put yourself out there
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:22 AM
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Some of the stuff I want to write is too dark for todays society. I think I have a better understanding of Robert Greenes work than I believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:20 AM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:55 AM
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I would rather do it in the reverse order, marriage first.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:50 AM
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How does this help when it comes to limited promotion s? Even if people collaborate, your still competing for promotions and payrises If everyone does the same, then no one stands our.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:47 AM
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It's not something I am in awe of regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:17 AM
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Probably still cheaper than marriage in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:03 AM
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Just rewrite evolution bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:01 AM
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Fair. J
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:30 AM
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Why would I spend my time fantasising over some YT bint when I live in a city with real women in it.. Have you ever left the basement. Are you a virgin? Have you ever spoken to a real woman? Do you shave your neckbeard? Do you have a manifesto?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:24 AM
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What about the guys who clearly SAY they only want casual, have no expectations, etc. Why the complaints about them behaving exactly as they said? Not aimed at you specifically but seen it pop up in other subs and on TikTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:18 AM
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It's hard to get to know someone to even decide if you want to serious when they seem more interested in the label of marriage or being exclusive instead of just chilling and getting to know someone. You just come across as obsessed with marriage and looking for the first person to commit rather than like letting get to know you as a person so they can decide if they want to take the relationship in that direction. I imagine it would be the same as a woman dating a guy and the guy just being obs…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:14 AM
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What the training guys to do it and make it looking like it's a way of getting props so they are more likely to do it. Or do I think it's bad it may encourage other guys to do it. Look, if a couple have a kid it's between them what happens, none of my business. But if there is a problem with guys fobbing off duties,well bitchhong about it will only lead to resent it won't help anything. Influencing and making guys want to do it, may change things. I don't know tbh and tbh I don't care. How coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:40 AM
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The reason they get praise is because a lot of guys don't do it. If they get praise and status for doing it, other guys will want to do it as they won't want the other dad to be better and getting more respect than him. At least in theory. And it will encourage him to do it more if he doesn't do it much. It's an attempt to change societal norms. At least I theory. But yeah, you keep complaining about it. Then things can stay as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:28 AM
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Its still cheaper than paying for someone elses kid for 18 years. I am in agreement though about doing a paternity test on the side though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:03 AM
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Its an excuse. Your mate is married now or in a relationship. Why would he want to go to the bar with you just to watch you chat to women and talk about your dating life. He abandoned that lifestyle, so it makes sense he does not want to be part of it. People in relationships and people who are single, have different lifestyles. Or maybe they have kids and just can't be arsed doing the stuff you do as they have other pressing stuff to do. Or maybe they would rather spend money elsewhere. Not say…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:01 AM
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Nah put some money aside. Say its inheritence from your Great Aunt Iasbelle who is dead. But she put it into an account for your child but for you to have access, a lawyer has to confirm its your child. Like, how hard would it be to find a lawyer who would do this for some ££££.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 11:55 PM
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Look I don't know what you were taught in school. If some dude makes a woman pregnant and they have a kid. Regardless of if the guy who shot his love juice into her is dead or alive, it still wouldn't be my kid. Right, when the father dies, a childs DNA does not magically change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 11:50 PM
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They bring me shit to my table (finally tried it after it opened not that long ago, in the UK) after I order. Regardless of the correct job title, the point remains. ​ Also, its nicer than McDonalds, not as busy and friendler staff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 11:46 PM
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The whole offering videos of him banging some chick made me cringe. Like why the need for validation from random peepz on PPD? Validation seeking is just cringe. No matter what you do in life, if people being non-reactive about it bothers you, seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 11:42 PM
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Mate. I am not sure if the USA is actually really that different to over here across the pond. However, reading some of the shit on here and looking around the UK, either guys are literally not leaving the basement, are only willing to get with models or America is really hard to date and all the shit I see on FB from Americans is fake (none of it lines up with this sub). Anyway, I will not take you up on your offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 11:23 PM
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My mum once said the vacuam smelled funny when she emptied it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 11:16 PM
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Simps really are reaching new levels of simpness today.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 11:15 PM
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It is kind of an asshole move if you actually do/say those things. However, the question is did the guy actually say those things? If a guy says he is not ready for commitment, seeing how it goes, etc, it means just that. The fact he made a woman "Feel" different means nothing, it does not mean she is special, in this case, "Listen to what a man says" as he may make all women feel like this, in which case she really is not special. Its just that she was choosing douchebag dudes before, the fact …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 11:14 PM
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Maybe she said "I'm not looking for a replacement father". So maybe she lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:57 PM
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She is a youtube video. She probably will never approach you. Stop living behind a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:55 PM
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Make your move. Why are you analysing this. If you can't read body language, use youtube. Otherwise, assume attraction, make a move and handle rejection in a graceful manner. The only thing you should be analysing is your own game. These women are just the Universe providing tools for you to help master your game. Why are you even posting this, you should be approaching women of beauty and learning game,
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:53 PM
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Hypergamy Right I am attracted to who I am attracted to. It does not change in accordance with my income. It just means dating becomes cheaper and cheaper as I go for the same types of women and dates cost less and less a percentage of my wage for them to be impressive. If I were Hypergamous, each time I got a better job, I would be aiming for a higher league in accordance to my promotion/new role. So when Hypergamy comes into play, if your with a super ambitious women, if she gets promoted fast…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:51 PM
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Yeah your right. Just accept it. What else can you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:41 PM
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Your attempting to recreate it. Just say "Respect" and drop it. Its a shit test. If you get too revolted, disgusted, then your a wierd sexual prude. If you do what you do your super creepy and needy. Just look em in the eye and say "Respect". Then carry on talking. ​ The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:34 PM
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Then why don't women do the same. Why is reddit full of women complaining men never settle and only want sex. Why don't they just accept that they are setting too high standards for themselves and will never get more than FWB ior a situationship. The complaining is coming from both sides. Like us guys who like things to be "No expectations" we get as much shit as Chad does and you women do for not sleeping with incels (like yeah it sucks). But its not just men complaining. Yet I never see thread…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:32 PM
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I just can't be arsed arguing with you. You see things differently to me, thats all there is to it. So like I say, you do you, whatever makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:25 PM
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You just do you bro. Whatever makes you happy in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:21 PM
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Why are so many men obsessed with being the top guy when they know most men will never be the top It keeps us occupied. Also if people were not competitive, they would get nowhere in life. Look at losers. Look at people on minimum wage jobs not being able to afford to eat and heat. Thats what happens when your not competitive. You are removed from the genepool, probably in a slow unpleasent fashion. I never understood this mindset and it seems to be a setup for failure. Also, it seems the guys w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:18 PM
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Welcome to the 21st century.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:05 PM
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She happily married him. For a group that complains about how unfair it is for men in dating they sure don’t seem to care when that unfairness doesn’t affect them. I'm not complaining about dating. This place is full of all sorts. ​ Although there are a lot of Blackpill types so I can see why you would justified in stereotyping and strawmanning me. Whatever makes you feel powerful bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:58 PM
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Depends on your circles. As a guy who just dates and never settles, yeah some people don't respect me. But others do. Guess who I surround myself with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:55 PM
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Well its your life your choice what you do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:52 PM
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Why don't you fucking adopt the kid then. Its not your kid, so what its not his either. So why are you doing this to that kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:42 PM
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The part where “men are under attack! No one cares about us men”. Turn around and will go “who gives a fuck about that young man. Not my problem I never said that. Its evolution at the end of the day, it dosn't play nice. And then wonder why everyone says “that’s why no one takes any of your selfish pills or problems seriously” I don't care, problems are challenges to be solved. Resistance makes us strong. Or we are unapologetically removed from the gene pool. This is the “brotherhood” of man? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:37 PM
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In agreement. The women on here don't even bother me so much, its the Blackpill incels who wind me up. But society has stopped teaching boys how to become men. I personally think society is scared of men with ambition and confidence. If a man were to truly carve his own path in this day and age, Genghis Khan would look like a simp. So yeah men are beaten down, out of fear of us reaching our true potential and being truly great. But we as men can use this resistance to build resiliance. Its like …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:31 PM
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He said: We got married 7 years ago and have a 6-year-old daughter together. What am I missing???
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:27 PM
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Thats gotta be skewed by by the population of Rotherham. That place shouldn't be classed as UK. Unfortunately, nuking a shithole isn't allowed these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:25 PM
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Well your a simp, who cares what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:23 PM
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The guys still paying for the other guys sperm. Like she won regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:23 PM
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Its really not his kid. Maybe you should watch some video's on reproduction on Youtube. or start with "The Birds and The Bees" to ease yourself in slowly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:21 PM
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This place seems more Blackpill than Redpill. Redpill and PUA were guys banding together, encouraging each other and helping each other out. Now its just basement dwellers trying to edge each other to suicide whilst repeating the line "But Chad dosn't need to do that" repeatedly as an excuse for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:13 PM
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Have the Incels finally left?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:11 PM
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I wish I knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:11 PM
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Its hilarious in a way. When a women describes her boyfriend as an angel. Yet we all know he was talking about a sex sandwich with her and her sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:09 PM
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Why is this crazy? He is a dude, if he cannot take care of himself his genes will be apologetically removed from the gene pool. This will either make him strong and independent or kill him. Its how nature works. This is simple evolution and natural selection. No Pussy == No Pussy Pass
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:08 PM
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I think McDonalds worker is taking it a bit far. ​ Just someone who can pay their way, they don't have to be loaded. And also dosn't want expensive everything just because some random person on Social Media posted a picture of a bigger house.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:03 PM
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Congrat the guy on his champ sperm.eggs just lay their and do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:35 PM
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Depends on so many other things. On Paper it sounds nice, but half the time they cannot accept you for who they are and it turns into a pissing competition where they are constantly explaining how lucky you are to have them,they are always pointing out how worthless you are compared to them, getting paid becomes a competition, etc. I could go on. ​ Now before the "But men do...." in a way to avoid answering. Yeah men probably do a lot of shitty things, I don't date men or look at men romanticall…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 07:40 PM
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Noone is telling the people anything. The conversations about redflags are not directed at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:26 PM
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When people are talking about red flags, they are not doing it for your benefit. The whole world does not revolve around you. If men are talking, has it even entered your mind, that the topic is not geared towards you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:24 PM
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