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When they comment on our physical appearance there's little misunderstanding though...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:48 AM
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Every day, everywhere at all times in New York City
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:51 AM
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There are plenty of documentaries and social media stories about women who pay for male company: it just looks different. Like the Tinder Swindler. Like women who send thousands and thousands of dollars to support a man they met while he was incarcerated. Women who meet an exotic guy in another country who tells them everything they want to hear... even the daily posts on Reddit about a woman who supports a man who is unemployed and doesn't help out around the house either. Women at large won't …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:49 AM
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This could be said for any woman who hedges her bets on a man though. Plenty of women stall their careers to advance her husband's. Men of all walks of life are liable to leave for someone new, after using up your youth and womb, even if the pair was initially madly in love. Women who approach dating more shrewdly aren't necessarily the ones with no backup plan... what makes you think they are more unlikely to have education, skills or crucially, independent savings?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:43 AM
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The reality is when you see the sugar baby trope in popular media, self-publicized, it's either narcissistic embellishment or a shared exhibitionism kink... Irl sugar dating looks like either someone being very poorly compensated so she can pretend she's not really performing transactional sex, or extremely well compensated to help the guy pretend he's not buying affection. There's emotional labor and/or manipulation on either end to make the party getting less of a deal feel that it's real. A g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:39 AM
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RP doesn't make sense as traditionalism because there is no end goal which gives purpose and enhancement to society. Just fleeting satisfaction to a niche demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:08 AM
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Attractive people who are on the spectrum or otherwise have personality aspects which aren't given to social success say this because on the contrary, you can see that most people are ordinary looking and many of them are in happy relationships. Being attractive gets people interested in you for sex, social climbing, and other surface level pursuits but when it comes to serious dating it doesn't make a difference in compatibility or longevity, and many people even disprefer an overly attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:06 AM
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Woooosh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 02:53 AM
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Worse for the pride of a man who doesn't care about his partner(s) and children, but OPs question was for Blue Pill, which makes it seem intended as a morality question, not a would you rather question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:14 PM
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Let me put it this way. If you are hungry but have had bad experiences with a particular food, or dislike it, not wanting to eat it doesn't make you less hungry than someone less discerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:42 PM
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Lol. Mainstream culture pushes the narrative that women don't deserve respect if they're sexually available. Maybe men should tell each other to stop slut shaming if they want the few women who are interested in casual sex to be more open about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 01:41 PM
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The correlation here is that their appetite for sexual variety is lesser
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:52 AM
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Women liking sex doesnt equal women wanting sex with all men 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:36 AM
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B
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:51 AM
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Hmm, this is the last place I expected to find a defense of sex work is work :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:40 AM
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I stopped reading after your assumption that we get treated well and with respect on dates, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 12:07 PM
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Skimmed to your unlabeled TLDR - I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:07 AM
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Because we stake more on our choice of a man. Our physical safety, our reputation, our bodies, our responsibilities for the next 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:16 PM
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He cold approached me in public. Yes other women want him, when I introduced him to my friends to assess him they were too busy swooning to give me helpful feedback. If random women pay him attention I get annoyed but not worried. He's not dating down, we are both good looking and have the same values. Our personality attributes balance out. He's more charismatic, energetic and patient, I'm more intelligent and make more money, but I have more baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:03 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:32 PM
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So what? Getting laid is not a priority for most women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:09 PM
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Pseudos was obviously a typo lol. So you agree with me, then feminism is merely a reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:54 PM
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I don't care if he's GOOD at sex, I care that having sex with him isn't degrading, painful or traumatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:07 PM
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You don't? Why have you needed to create patriarchal pseudos since the dawn of time to keep women where you want them then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:51 PM
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All the answers here are the same and the sentiment in them comes up a lot, I just want to know since population wise there isn't a dearth of women, have all these men taken their own advice and given a chance to someone less shallow and less attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:32 AM
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And how do you posit in-tribe relationships being structured in the times between being raided?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:38 AM
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Unwilling to marry again
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:28 AM
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Women have higher standards for initially selecting, men have more demands in a relationship. It's why when polled more divorced women are unwilling to do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:48 AM
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Is this based on something besides anecdote?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:35 AM
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If these two men have the same exact personality, then it would absolutely make a difference to me. Most of my female friends would agree. And assuming his money is self-made, it already points to certain personality traits like ambition and discipline
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:51 PM
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Lol stop. Most women aren't even attracted to guys who are bodybuilder-level jacked. If you want a woman who spends a lot of time in the gym on her physique, she might want a man who does too. If you want a woman who's height and weight proportionate and attentive to her grooming, those are not difficult standards to match by any means if it's something that matters enough to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:43 PM
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Who knows? I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but if people can't afford dating/leisure activites and can't afford spiking rents, people might start shaking up more? I'm also interested to see stats on sexual behavior post-covid. Like, are people fucking more and more because they've been stir crazy, or less and less because we've gotten used to being more cautious and isolated?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:29 PM
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But hot + money > only hot, absent other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:26 PM
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If you think this is a rigged game, I mean isn't life in general? But most of us were taught in kindergarten that being respectful and considerate to others is the best way to be treated well in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:25 PM
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Summer is coming up. People are outside relaxed in a friendly, outgoing way. Parks, street fairs, singles hikes, dance lessons... I'm not really sure what the question is. I also have sober friends who go to all the same places drinkers do, clubs and lounges... someone who avoid bars with their friends for their sobriety is only going to want to date someone who's also sober. Luckily, recovering alcoholics and wellness-focused people both tend to build strong community! Just go on Facebook or me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:22 PM
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No offense, but I don't think many guys who "become Red Pilled" have ever had women think or tell them they are nice...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:13 PM
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This guy could be a model but his lack of cognitive ability would still be an obstacle to getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:10 PM
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If they don't feel entitled to sex, then why is it a problem to be rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:07 PM
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Yup. One of the guys I'm seeing right now, I don't even think he's ever asked me what I do for work, who or where my family are, what hobbies or interests I have. He literally talks at me about himself the entire time. I haven't dipped yet because part of me is morbidly amused, and at this point all it is, is someone hot who's often available on short notice to take me out when i find myself craving a social hit, and in turn seems to enjoy having a woman to talk at 🤷‍♀️ Also because this is stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:50 PM
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Idk I really think it's more about assuming he has a wandering eye and need for frequent variety. Edit: Also, what do you mean it can never backfire with a girl if you have proof you've only been with desirable people? I can't think of any way of proving this which wouldn't make most women think you're a pervert with no boundaries. Like are you sitting down your girlfriends and asking them to look at a photo gallery? Sounds like a kink
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:43 PM
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Not knocking you cause I habe a high count too, but I've noticed the biggest factor in someone being a good lover is if they have LTR experience of really learning how to please someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:41 PM
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This goes both ways, contrary to what people here love to obsess over, it also works this way for women. Most Gen Z and millennials irl are not especially interested in a conservative, nuclear family suburban lifestyle. Attractive, interesting people attract each other and they don't have a sexual history quiz before falling for each other. If you conduct yourself in a manner that your life story isn't constantly popping up and interfering with how you socialize, it doesn't suddenly become an is…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:39 PM
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No lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:36 PM
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I can believe it fine, it's just not something which registers as as a global issue for anyone but those individual men to think about. If our species reached a point where every male was on top of personal growth and preserving himself, but the rate of women interested in heterosexual relations was simultaneously declining en masse? Then I'd be interested in finding out what scientists find out about the cause...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:35 PM
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I love how you conflate not stroking a man's ego with having a rotten personality, yet think we live in a "gynocentric society"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:27 PM
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This. Like don't address women about it, address the men we're responding to about how they're ruining it for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:24 PM
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Right. I don't know any women who actually prefer older men... and the compelling older men are the ones who have always had something going for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:10 PM
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My standards have risen with my age lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:13 AM
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No offense but what are all these other things you claim men can give to us? You said yourself we can get our own paycheck. Dick is abundant and low-value. So what does that leave? Why would I want a horny male lurking around my life if not for companionship and protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:07 AM
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OK but at least 90 percent of porn is tailored towards men's exploration and curiosity and that and the way it affects people's sex lives is why some women need some therapeutic stress relief lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:11 AM
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They don’t want her to have a long list of dudes she can compare his performance to in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:36 PM
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I’m not excusing anything lol or even talking about the hypothetical scenario. Just pointing out the well-established fact that rape trauma is a real and long-lasting thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:13 AM
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Lol yikes. Your logic is similar to rapists’. Believe it or not, having unwanted sex is more damaging to a human psyche than going without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:22 AM
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Lmao you’re right on the money. I went and watched a few episodes and the guys are calmer even around beautiful female celebrities than around the porn stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:14 PM
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There’s plenty of industries where it’s common to have an unfavorable opinion of clients… I feel like it’s harder to actually name an exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:03 PM
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I have a high N count as do many of my friends, I would say they tend to be less uptight and it’s easier to talk with them about anything and be able to get some experienced advice as well as some wicked laughs about whatever may be going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:38 PM
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Yes I’ve seen your shtick before, consider it advice to the majority then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:31 PM
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So tip well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:48 PM
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That’s especially obnoxious because it’s not something easy to try and reverse. If you have dark hair naturally, going blonde will damage your hair and require a lot of upkeep.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:44 PM
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If a guy has looks, he can often get status as well if he has good social skills. Women who have their own money don’t need the man to have his own money. I’ve seen these surfer dudes in tourist spots become gigolos or even get married to a woman with more money and status. For a woman who prizes men’s looks and has less options based on her own, locking down a sexually desirable man probably gives her more feelings of status than finding a rich one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:39 PM
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I’ve known some of both genders. It’s not just a hood thing, I know a few nerdy high earning guys who only seem to mutually attract women who don’t have steady jobs and start dating them when they are looking to move out from their current guy’s house into a new guy’s house.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:33 PM
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You’re overthinking this. People model relational behavior based on how they saw their parents act, not what their parents say. In the case of a single male child and a single mother, he will probably have dating success. Most “mama’s boys” are very confident with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:24 PM
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Absolutely. Proximity in social or professional networks is how most people would prefer to meet and vet partners, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:17 AM
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I’m probably going to get hateful DMs for this, but as a sex worker, I would never be interested in a relationship with someone who had paid for sex. Someone who enjoys going to strip clubs as group entertainment, sure. But having been in a room with someone who wants to get off with another person but doesn’t care about the other person’s experience, feelings or whether they are genuinely expressing their reactions, is someone I would have no interest in being voluntarily intimate or close with…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:50 PM
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They do. Most people don’t live on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:51 AM
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No such thing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:20 PM
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How will this make you rich exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:19 PM
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Lmfao So why is there a stereotype about men “trading up” their wife for someone younger when they start doing well financially but not the other way around? Why do men abandon sick spouses at much higher rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:18 PM
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Hard to take this seriously since it relies on a premise that women are all friendly to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:56 PM
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Only by a woman they desire to the same extent, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 02:54 PM
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If I wanted to have these discussions on real social media I wouldn’t come here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 04:27 PM
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If you want your time and attention to command as much value as women’s on the dating market, then by all means encourage men en masse to clean up their image so that a woman has to put effort in to get some dick and she doesn’t have to worry about whether a stranger dude is a rapist or violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:52 PM
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Well for both genders, I think that many “givers” feel good when they have someone who receives their gifts with effusive appreciation. And often heterosexual couples prefer that dynamic to be that the man is the masculine giver.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:49 PM
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Such intrepid research /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 10:29 AM
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They feel it’s unfair cause to them equality begins and ends with having to expend effort to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:48 AM
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It’s to weed out guys who would use you, or on a primal level who would leave you in the lurch if you can’t work when you’re pregnant/ after birth. To prove that he lives comfortably enough to enjoy some leisure and absorb unexpected expenses without griping. Many animals demonstrate they’re a catch by showing off the frivolities they can afford to waste energy or resources on. Some guys think a sports car or clothing makes them attractive but for me I’d prefer the guy who buys a round for every…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:44 AM
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If “receiving” were worthless to men, they wouldn’t spend energy chasing women to do it. Men en masse don’t select for or even necessarily stay with women who “give a fair share,” so why would women go out of their way to do so when it’s not efficient?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:11 AM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:06 AM
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Not for existing. But if you’re a stranger who wants a woman’s time and attention, it’s a courtesy to cover refreshments and other comforts at the place you invited her to. Truly courteous people do this for anyone they invite anywhere, but I’m curious about where you’re encountering a pattern of women who randomly demand you buy something for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:03 AM
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It sounds like you are quite young and have a lot going for you. Don't let the knocks make you bitter, it won't get you any closer to your goals and neither will devoting so much thought to what other people are wearing or driving or how they may be acting in patterns. FWIW your look sounds like it would be a big hit on alternative scenes, but I don't think the attitude that tweaking your looks is how you should have automatically landed a girlfriend is really getting you anywhere either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:18 PM
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There you go, it sounds more like your physical standards are making your search difficult, not a dearth of loyal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:00 PM
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Which media constantly batter you with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:56 PM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:52 PM
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Men who want lots of casual sex vastly overestimate the amount of women interested in having lots of casual sex, just as men are wired to overestimate their chances of getting laid in general. Slut shaming and experiences or stories about other women’s experiences with predatory males are enough to keep most women away from getting too curious about casual sex. Secondly, both men and women who do like casual sex commonly have different standards for who they fuck/marry. The dude who is fucking s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:56 PM
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Haha accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:33 AM
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Selling sex or access to ones body is not “selling their body” lol 🙄 The client doesn’t get to keep the body any more than McDonalds keeps the bodies it rents to do service work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 10:43 AM
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Totally agree about that gulf between people who sell access to their body vs the larger number of people who have a strong visceral aversion to it. I think OnlyFans gets such backlash cause during the pandemic it was trending and so many people were joining, the media was all over it, as a result I think some guys have a new paranoia that any woman is liable to secretly be “impure” behind his back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:05 PM
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You would probably find it infuriating if most of the people you message with were rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:59 PM
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Some would, some wouldn’t. There doesn’t seem any point to continuing this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:18 AM
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Elsewhere in this thread there is a woman in STEM reporting this happening...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:17 AM
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No, I actually don’t know what was on your mind when you wrote that. What I do know is that there is a high risk of a whole spectrum of things resulting from casual sex which are worse than “no sex.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:16 AM
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I never said otherwise. Having high standards in being courted is how a woman weeds out the men who would leave her in the lurch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:13 AM
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Or he could pursue someone who wants a relationship. This thread is about dating, not just casual sex. I get that it’s hard for the average guy to have casual sex. It’s hard not to when it gets brought up on every single thread here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:03 PM
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So then it should be even easier for you to find one who’s not being heavily pursued by a more attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:50 PM
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If you don’t see a difference between being ugly and being rude or violent then that’s probably why you’re getting rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:47 PM
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Annoying maybe but not what I call creepy, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:45 PM
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You too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:12 PM
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Creepy means someone whose approaches aren’t appropriate to the setting or common social boundaries. I.e. in places you can’t choose whether or not to frequent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:07 PM
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If he pursues women in his league he won’t have the issue of being in competition with more desirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:05 PM
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She takes an active role in childbearing and child rearing. That’s why the onus is on men to prove they are able and willing to invest time and resources. It’s not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:02 PM
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I love dick, I just don’t harbor illusions about why men approach me. All guys aren’t in a basket. It’s a safer bet to go out with a guy who asks me out based on knowing me or chatting to me than it is with a guy who might be asking 100 women for their number that day and who we know nothing about each other. And it’s not practical to stop and get to know him. If I want to socialize with strangers I’ll make time to go somewhere with a broad selection of them and where I can see how they behave i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 06:59 PM
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So what would account for less shallow people being able to find happiness with each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 06:54 PM
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Self-possession is sexy 🤷‍♀️ I think the mental backflips these guys are doing is skewing their guesses on people’s ages. Like if a 40 year old looks good in yoga pants they assume she’s 29 cause everyone knows we shrivel up overnight on our 30th birthday. Or most women they see are in porn where everyone is a teen until she morphs into a stepmom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 06:53 PM
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Drop everything in the sense of stopping whatever you were doing to chat with the cold approacher. Do you stop and talk to everyone canvassing for Greenpeace? Most people don’t, and that’s an interaction which follows a standard script. Being hit on by a dude is a wild card, he could end up being aggressive. If you’re attracted to someone it’s cause you have sex organs. If you cold approach someone it’s because of that, not cause you like her earrings or she looks like someone who has interestin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 06:40 PM
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Same haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 06:25 PM
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A lot of them are holding out for someone they can settle down with and quietly feeling out the guys in their social networks. Hanging around clusters of single men can be intimidating or just not the most rewarding use of one’s time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 06:15 PM
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This seems to be how Gen Z handles online dating. Imo it’s more holistic because you can scope out the person’s personality and chat over time without the pressure of essentially going on blind dates with a “fuck, marry or kill” mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 06:10 PM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 06:06 PM
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So we can live our lives and do what we gotta do. Why do men expect us to drop everything and prioritize engaging with a random stranger who just wants our attention cause of his penis feels?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 06:05 PM
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80% of women aren’t having casual sex with 5% of men. Most people pair off monogamously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:57 PM
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Thirsty comments don’t make up for otherwise overall lack of respect and validation in a man’s world. They just reinforce our place in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:54 PM
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Men objectively don’t let women speak as much in group conversations, or recognize their contributions at work, I could go on for days with more examples which matter more in daily life than being validated for being desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:53 PM
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Sex can be so bad it inflicts trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:49 PM
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Or talk to any woman ever about her experiences with men 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:39 PM
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Disagree, I know loads more 20somethings who volunteer than play tennis. And rock climbing is considered kind of corny unless you’re actually in the mountains. The point being that geography, demographics and self-selection for similar people is going to affect what you see people doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:25 PM
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Not sure it’s a myth. My social feeds are full of hot people volunteering and starting nonprofit projects. I do agree that it’s a function of being well rounded in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:14 PM
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Not really. If that happens it’s cause someone wants to get in your pants and won’t ask you out directly but will be passive aggressively mate guarding you. Not too fun. To make friends the advantage will always go to outgoing people, and if you’re an introvert and/or late bloomer, low self esteem at a formative age etc, getting extra attention doesn’t mean more people like you. Some of that attention can be negative if you haven’t learned how to handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:07 PM
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Nah it’s cause they can focus on themselves. A lot of women in relationships are miserable from being men’s caretakers and emotional punching bags. Women also evolved to form stronger social bonds outside of their partner + men are more likely to expect their partner to put her own goals and hobbies on hold to support his.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:12 PM
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Other way round. Men age equally but women don’t care as much about their men’s looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:49 PM
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20-year olds probably weren’t attractive when you were 10 either. Most people consistently find their own age group attractive, by the time you’re 30 your peers will just look normal and 20 year olds will look like kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:48 PM
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Same! + I get more attention from men as I get older + found my mate past 30. Women have whole careers selling a milf fantasy to men. There’s no practical benefit to buying into this myth invented by self-hating ephebephiles to make women feel bad about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:46 PM
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Right, if there is any truth to some groups aging faster than others the dividing lines are by race not gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:42 PM
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So you self-admittedly select women based on shallow criteria. The fact that the women you take out are shallow speaks more to the lowest common denominator you share than it does to whether there are any “nice young women these days.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:36 PM
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Not about dick size, in my experience. Doubtful a misogynist’s wild hypothesizing is a more accurate reflection of what women actually talk about. Look if someone’s a size queen they’re not going to marry a guy with a small dick. That’s the kind of “crazy” world I live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:34 PM
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Sensitive tortured genius archetype
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 05:52 PM
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You’re right I should have totally made that more obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 02:46 PM
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Right that’s what I’m saying. The people who hook up abroad are the same ones interested in casual sex wherever they are. “AWALT” was ironic and I would never use that term unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:21 PM
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After a date or two they probably believed it was going somewhere with you. The “no hookups” on an app where a lot of men will straight up open with a sexual invitation is a tactic which keeps them from being burned out before they go on those dates with you. It’s not like it’s a celibacy manifesto they signed which by having sex with you at some point they become massive hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:54 AM
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Those are the same women who are dtf at home too though. Create a situation where they won’t be judged on it and their only worry is having a good time. It’s not like AWALT magically lose their core character convictions and behaviors as soon as they cross a border.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:51 AM
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It’s to scare away guys who are JUST looking for hookups. Doesn’t mean she’s a nun just that she is ideally looking for real dating and will only entertain guys who know how to play by the social contract which that standard entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:48 AM
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It doesn’t happen in private behind his back either. That was my point. Not going in circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:40 AM
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So this way they get to sleep with him while you take care of his other needs in the background so they don’t have to. And why would they want a shot to be in your position when they still have time to find a monogamous guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:50 PM
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And who are you getting one over on by helping your man have casual sex, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:54 PM
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Maybe if you’re under 22 or something
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:29 PM
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Wait only sexually submissive men are good lovers? Since when haha
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:27 PM
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A lot of humans are naive, irregardless of gender, especially when young. And then if they fall for a user/abuser, they might become conditioned to seek or expect more of the same treatment from the next lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:05 AM
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Hmm well this is definitely a word salad, it doesn’t have much to do with anything related to this discussion nor anyone’s truth but your own, but thanks for the great copypasta 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:03 AM
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Women maximize looks to get the most out of life that they can, just as men are free to. The very first thing I said was that a man’s attractiveness is nowhere near based 95% on his looks. Neither is his success in life outside of casual sex very tied to his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:01 AM
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In private to their best friends? Who already know details about his dick and his flaws?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:55 AM
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Whatever solutions the government would look at to raise the birthrate would not include handing out sex partners to undesirable men. Women are citizens too and while the government can incentivize expanding families or single people meeting each other, you still have to attract your partner on your own. Nor would it have anything to do with prostitution- if a sex worker’s goal is to have a child, she just needs one man and then her womb is out of commission for 9 months. Once she’s pregnant the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:33 PM
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Ah ok this is a troll, makes sense now. The societal tragedy of CEOs being bullied into making decisions which will resonate more with their consumers than with teenage boys without an internet connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:36 AM
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Ruining people’s careers? 😂😂😂Models don’t work in house for just one brand. They are contracted for a single event, campaign or shoot. Companies like to change up their advertising, a clothing company is not different. If anything this gives earning opportunities to more people. The dozen supermodels who would have gotten VS contracts this year would have been selected from the most prominent and trendy models who are getting all the other big campaigns recently. Most of them are married to rich…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:34 AM
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Performance anxiety and comfort level maybe, it’s one thing to tell yourself you’re great at sex cause the thrusting you wanna do anyway is A+... whereas learning to get a woman off is going to be a dive into the unknown with every woman and maybe he’s afraid she’ll think he’s inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:21 AM
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Where do you live that this is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:19 AM
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Sometimes the ones who have the people skills to be fun and figure out what turns someone on both in bed and out are also the manipulative and toxic ones. Sometimes perfectly nice people lack that magnetism. It takes humility and maturity to have those abilities and not take advantage of them. Some people will spend their whole lives being toxic just because they can. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s also an element of the man who is nice only to you (or seems to be) seeming like a better prot…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:17 AM
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A man who is healthy and strong and virile tends to prefer this active role though. The men complaining about women not falling into their lap are also the men complaining about rejection in general, they have wishful thinking about women volunteering to ease their frustrations. The men who get those women feel better if there was a sense of achievement associated with getting with the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:11 AM
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What does the government have to do with this? That would never happen or be a feasible project even. The only interesting thing about this is seeing what type of people would even want that. Decriminalizing sex work is a good idea for many reasons, but as far as I can see the people fighting for it are mainly doing it for the human rights of the people at risk of violence and exploitation in the industry. Undersexed men can and do visit sex workers in most countries with an extremely minimal ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:02 AM
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Lol @ 100-900,000 between two people being private jet lifestyle money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:56 AM
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The first, although I would prefer someone in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:51 AM
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Sounds like an attempt to Tiktokify it to appeal to the youngsters. Lots of people use tinder primarily or secondarily to get new social media followers or website clicks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:50 AM
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Mostly one and two, if there is a real and large decline I would guess it was because women have more options nowadays than tying their life to a man’s, so men would need to offer more than just being a solvent male but that may not be happening because of men not realizing they have to keep up with women, every year the world becomes a place where more is possible for women to become involved in so maybe a random dude who isn’t as engaged with the world isn’t going to be as appealing as it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:45 AM
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Most women I know even if they statistically have a lot of casual sex, are having most of it between relationships and even then it will slow down when they find someone they like and want to focus on. Sleeping around might look like a person a week, sometimes more but it averages out as everyone has self imposed dry spells while they’re going through stuff or getting over someone. Similar numbers to the amount of people someone with options might be making time to go on dates with - some people…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:40 AM
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Being more than a few inches shorter than me or more than a foot taller. Being too skinny or boyish. Weird facial hair. It’s hard to say. You’re either attracted to someone or not. You don’t know until you see them if you like how they look, you can’t decide based on a paper description of their appearance and it’s not like passing some metric gets you a ticket to ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:33 AM
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I’m sure most women who feel confident enough to post their bikini pics also have a grasp on compartmentalizing their life and figuring out how to get respect/ show their personality where it counts irl. Respectfully, if you are in the position of only interacting with these women via their thirst traps, winning you over with their personality is probably not a concern they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:29 AM
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Both, collectively we have been shedding older concepts of propriety so if you wanna wear comfy clothes it feels that much easier if everyone’s doing it too. And men do wear those things, in environments where gender norms are more flexible. Or for jogging, or even competing in sports like cycling. But dressing “sexy” has been considered feminine for centuries. How are you surprised that men in hyper masculine sports aren’t trying to wear booty shorts? Do you think it would get them positive, ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:23 AM
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The woman might be more visible and supported within her direct social networks but in terms of societal opportunity and privilege it’s always going to be a man. Women who are deemed “lacking” are invisible even to unattractive men it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:19 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:17 AM
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Yeah I don’t buy into the 80/20 thing but if men want to have more sex, they could have more sex the sooner they accept that not everyone’s sex life is going to be a revolving door of casual sex with beauties like for a tv character. Most people who are sexually active aren’t living like that but that doesn’t mean their sex lives are unfulfilling. Going home with someone new all the time actually would take a lot of energy, I don’t think that most people who complain about 80/20 are actually put…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:17 AM
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I have not heard of this happening in real life, not once, and I know a lot of very promiscuous men and women who are candid and lewd about their sex lives. Women have no reason to hide from each other that they miss a big dick, and yet I’ve only ever heard of this phenomenon on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:11 AM
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In my experience men tend to think it’s pretty funny and irrelevant when women are jealous of each other to criticize each other. Healthy non predatory men probably don’t mind one way or another unless the woman can’t stand up for herself than that might be a turnoff?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:07 AM
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Sexual, but there’s often overlap. I’m not going to be as attracted to someone who I couldn’t look at in a romantic light, and on the other hand qualities I appreciate romantically can make me sexually attracted to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:05 AM
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Losers I think. Men may envy their sex life in passing, but I can’t think of anyone who is widely respected or admired who would admit to the primary intimate relationship in their life being so blatantly transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:01 AM
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Just because lots of men are coming on to you doesn’t mean they’re all in it to win it. Most of these are the guys who have a habit of hitting on everyone they’re attracted to and seeing who takes them up. Not knowing which of these guys are truly into you in particular makes vetting for the right guy a bigger task and you might get burned out on the way. Online dating in a big city, both men and women are aware that people will mostly be dating around unless/until they make it clear they want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:59 AM
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If people want to be in a relationship with each other, what on earth does that have to do with you or this drivel?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:38 AM
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Fashion? Not a big deal. Grooming which extends to choosing clothing which are flattering, well fitting and suitable for the physical and social environment? Yeah that’s a plus. Different social environments are going to have different standards of how much attention people pay to style trends, but to me it’s about having a grasp of using presentation as a tool to move through the world. If the guy knows how to dress so his features pop then obvi he’s going to be seen as a more attractive man. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:37 AM
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Here to see Stacy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:30 AM
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Yes, pretty privilege makes people treat you better in general. Being pretty is being a magnet for more men to approach you, so that raises the likelihood of encountering an asshole. But most men, even the assholes will treat a woman they think is more attractive better than the next woman. FDS I see as a space for women who can use reminders on self esteem, confidence, boundaries and standards which can ALSO affect women’s dating lives no matter what they look like. So it’s refreshing to have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:28 AM
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I really don’t care either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:23 AM
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What destroys society is men not being able to handle the fact that some humans have tits and ass but are also people just like you who are capable of and participating in the world which you usually mismanage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:19 AM
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It depends on the guy. Some can fall in love and be monogamous. Some can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:15 AM
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Sure your point about social circles is valid but why did you wrap it up in “I could be with any woman if she got to know me?” You just have to find one person who you can really click with. Being palatable to a broad range of women or focusing on that doesn’t necessarily bring you closer to finding that person. You may even miss them entirely because you were seeing people as one size fits all instead of individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:11 AM
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Probably not, I’m oriented to be attracted to men who have more drive than I do and who make me feel supported and relaxed so I can be feminine and not worry about providing. But never say never. If i were in a position where I outearned the guy I love by a staggering amount, it would seem ridiculous not to. I can’t say what type of men I would be attracted to were I a multi millionaire. Priorities would undoubtedly change in ways I couldn’t foresee. There are certainly high flyer women -J Lo, M…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:06 AM
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To your first paragraph, I would say that whether or not ugly men were “biologically programmed not to be fussy,” the technological era we live in with porn, etc can turn a lot of men fussy. To the second, while I don’t agree that 95% of a man’s attractiveness is about his appearance in the first place... if a dude’s life can be improved by cosmetic surgery, why wouldn’t that be a better scenario for virtually everyone than him becoming hateful? Women suck up the appearance blackpill every day, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:00 AM
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Yes the gym is full of guys, that doesn’t mean that every guy is in the gym. If a man actually goes to the gym regularly and has the other key parts of his life in place too but still can’t get a date, there are probably individual reasons that everyone around him could point out but it’s easier to just say you’re not interested in women or that your genetics doomed you than engaging in self reflection and self improvement, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:54 AM
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I think because the average man, if he doesn’t have a serious interest in media and fashion, doesn’t pay much mind to something like a clothing ad or display or fashion show. You’ve obviously picked an area, fashion, that women tend to be more interested in to make it seem like women are more insecure, but there are other areas of life where men care more about representation. In something like sports, seeing people represent you who are from your city or country seems to be a pretty fucking big…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:47 AM
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I’m not familiar with how the rape by deception concept actually plays out, so I won’t speak on that. But of course no one should get away with paternity fraud... did you actually think that most women are sympathetic to women who do this??
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:34 AM
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This is broadly hard to prove false, but you have to take into account the fact that the “top guys” have no reason to commit in today’s world + leagues aren’t set in stone, how well people get along is based on a complex cycle that develops over time based on how each person is thinking, feeling, acting, etc. so it’s also hard to endorse your position without knowing what you mean by leagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:01 AM
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The fact you said paid labor suggests the source of your data includes households (such which would comprise a large percentage of the planet) wherein women spend more time at home doing unpaid labor in support of the needs of the wage earners? In any case, don’t females usually do better in school and work harder in careers? This not counting keeping up with other obligations that come with being a woman in society and in a relationship. Remember I’m talking about what someone brings to a relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 05:56 AM
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Well in a lot of cases, probably. Statistically women volunteer more than men. And this is just one more example of an area in which a typical woman outperforms the men who are available to her for long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:34 AM
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Some people think boundaries are more important, and some people think personal freedom is more important. Prioritizing your own freedom and enjoyment of your personal time is fine, as long as you’re also fine with your partner getting her thrills however she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:30 AM
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Sounds like a you problem
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 06:04 AM
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Interesting thoughts/ agree with much of this, besides the part about women being more critical than men. Women in my age group are for the most part you-go-girl feminists in public at least. Whereas men my age think the whole world wants to know their every passing thought about how women look and present themselves. Maybe in the olden days it was true that women just dress for each other, but in the Internet age I would say women consume more visual media which encourages experimenting with pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 03:00 PM
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Right but when men commit it’s to the most attractive woman they have gotten and when they think she is the most attractive woman they are likely to get. Women have a higher bar for entry for casual sex/ online dating but most people don’t meet their long term partner this way. When women commit it’s to the guy who she thinks will treat her best or be most impressive in his personality and actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 03:08 PM
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Yeah, that’s not a dynamic I’m familiar with. Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 06:01 PM
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You’re shifting the goalposts. “Women are too shallow” >> “Only people with something going for them can demand the same from others” and my point was if someone invests effort into their “package” then it IS realistic, not callous for them to expect the same of their prospective dates. Your insistence that most people aren’t in the top tier of genetics goes both ways. As easily as you can make a generalization that women crave someone with rare attributes, I could generalize that men are just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 01:59 PM
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Yup. Observing body language and psychological expression is one of the only reasons I ever watch shows/tv.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 01:50 PM
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She’s not unattractive by any means! But in my city she wouldn’t stand out without the professionally done hair and styling. She knows how to work what she’s got and I think a major part of how she went to being a celebrity from being a random heiress is her cleverness and fun performative personality. Edit: Contrast her to Nicky Hilton, who is just as good looking but doesn’t have the same pizzazz which grabs the public’s attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 01:44 PM
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And why shouldn’t someone who has high standards for themself also have high standards for who they spend their time with? Also, way more than 1% of men have socially dominant instincts. If they didn’t there would be none of the jockeying that makes society go round and everyone would just fall into place. Btw, just noticed that I replied to another of your comments a few minutes ago but I’m not stalking you, just clicked on another thread and found your comment. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 01:41 PM
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Of course not. Being attractive is an ego boost but it can also be a black hole in terms of mental focus as the amount to which it consumes you isn’t proportionate to your competitiveness in that arena. It also doesn’t mean you have better achievements, relationships or mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 01:37 PM
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They don’t know how to talk to women or how to treat women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 01:33 PM
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She got a spot in a few shows for fun via her status/connections. If she were a nobody she wouldn’t have the height or “high fashion” face to make a legitimate career out of that. Not sure how it’s relevant to this thread anyway as runway models are selected as ideal types who let the clothes wear them, not ideals of sex appeal per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 01:26 PM
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Funnily enough, Paris Hilton imo is a perfect example of someone who exemplifies the key concepts of this thread- not physically exceptional, yet desirable due to halos like hair, grooming, wealth, fame, social/fashion finesse and primarily a spunky confident vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 01:07 PM
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Hardly. For one thing, what orbiter is going to admit to the woman he wants that he doesn’t get matches? If we compare ourselves to anyone it’s other women’s looks and the attention/treatment they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 05:55 PM
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How is this surprising?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 11:52 PM
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Bonding at that age sets a child up for healthy relating later. It becomes a problem as they grow up if there are no boundaries or independence instilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 10:45 PM
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Yes definitely. I would have accomplished so much more and had less trauma if I weren’t drawn to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 10:43 PM
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