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Sex is not necessarily a deeply emotional experience, think of sex workers and their clients. Somebody wanting to sleep with you doesn't mean they are interested in your soul. It means they are interested in your genitals. Men and women perceive it totally differently, because sperm is cheap and eggs are expensive. No one should be guilt tripped into sex or even talking to someone because "rejection is creating distance something something".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:48 PM
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No I didn't, I was trying to specify if there were other factors jusifying loss of love. Will you still love your gf if she lets herself go and gains 100 lbs?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:54 AM
1

So abuse is a legitimate condition for love? What about substance abuse and addictions? Not pulling their weight at domestic chores? General laziness? Giving up on personal hygiene? Gaining 100 lbs of weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:30 AM
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So you think men beating women is morally equivalent to women not giving sex to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:41 PM
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To say that someone is a gangsta bc they were treated badly by society sounds pretty progressive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 04:47 PM
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So all the 12yo boys saying "go make me a sandwich" and "your body my choice" have been treated horribly in progressive spaces?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:52 PM
2

Your proposed system will punish children who did literally nothing wrong and will do nothing for men to prevent them from being assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:53 AM
3

Why would you want to add opportunities to injustice? The laws should maximise the protection of children who are the most vulnerable in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:40 AM
3

Two persons make a baby. Why should there even be an option that only one of them will feed it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 09:33 PM
1

An actually handsome, intelligent, socially competent and fun guy will have dozens of girls hitting on him since middle school and he will be taken by the end of college.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:18 AM
1

However you conceptualize/operationalize said "quality", there is no public data covering 100 years and measuring only the quality of gender relations, ignoring all societal, technological, cultural, legal and other changes. Plus, to predict/plan the future, you don't really need 100 years' data.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:15 AM
9

Because online dating is essentially shopping for a partner and true love is rather unlikely to emerge under such conditions. Men settle for "good enough for sex" and never truly commit. But women don't want to waste their precious fertile years on perpetual uncertainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:13 AM
9

That is a very good list. I would add: even if you are not super handsome, try to look classy in photos (good taste, good style, good manners).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:03 AM
3

Getting a 10/10 dumb bimbo requires a totally different set of attributes than getting a 10/10 smart and classy woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 07:38 AM
3

Women have always been much more selective because their reproductive investment is gazillion times higher. Nothing to do with feminism or social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:02 PM
19

So, to avoid getting beaten and robbed, you can just give away your money voluntarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 11:13 AM
20

And then you will whine that she was leading you on. Also: "what was she wearing".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:06 AM
8

The easiest way to "obtain sex" would be lowering your standards but something tells me that would not fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:59 PM
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Not American, so lacking important context -- how exactly is Trump going to help with men's specific issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:45 AM
2

So you basically want incels to sponsor chads' progeny? Add insult to injury?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:43 PM
2

Advice: delete dating apps. Concentrate on your career, purpose and passions in life. Accumulate resources. Build social competence, assertiveness, authority, leadership skills. Be curious about other people, not just women you would like to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:38 AM
1

Men become criminals because they were raised by single moms (women's fault) while single moms become single moms because they are immoral and stupid (women's fault)? Men do not participate in the process of creating single moms, they only suffer from the consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:59 PM
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So, in moms you would like to see more personal responsibility, but incarcerated criminals are excused from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:26 AM
7

Society sends millions of microsignals to girls: don't bother with quirtky hobbies, it's not appropriate for girls, it will not make you attractive or popular, it's not feminine, it won't get you a quality man, instead of hobbies put most effort into looking good and conforming, that will maximise your dating pool and chances to get a good husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:52 AM
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Just don't forget that younger women don't need any more to settle for some middle-aged run-through low-energy child support paying balding dad bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 11:35 AM
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So you would agree to put on a chastity belt every time you leave the house if your wife demanded this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:45 PM
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A family of 7 certainly uses more education, health care, public parks, sanitation etc than a single cat lady? That said, what are you trying to prove or achieve? That single moms should get no food stamps? Or generally women should be more humble? Or that they contribute more financially (which may have a side effect of them being even less interested in dating and marriage).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:54 PM
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93% of the prison population is male. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:01 PM
15

Richer people contribute to the upkeep of the society more than poorer people, but richer people often also benefit more. They use the infrastructure more. They have also more to lose without the laws and security the society provides.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:18 PM
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Why does she have to say No the second time at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:08 PM
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Big Business needs women to earn and spend. There will be no revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:11 AM
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"At least they are not fat."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:59 AM
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Men, on average, earn 20-25% more than women. So an average woman expects her value match earn 20-25% more than her. This gets even more complicated where women are more educated than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:19 PM
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Well, can these women get a model boyfriend? Anyway, league is not only about looks. Also, effort doesn't necessarily correlate with result (no point doing the wrong thing very well).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:11 PM
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As it has been said: your league is who you are able to pull...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:06 PM
18

Upper middle class guy in liberal arts college will have zero problem dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:50 AM
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Men are programmed to be opportunistic (and date for sex) because their reproductive investment is small. Women are programmed to be selective (and date for relationships) and want a competent provider and protector.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:02 PM
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Be educated and funny, look assertive and classy. Class trumps money, clothes trump muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:53 AM
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Whenever a woman say that they do makeup, work out, pick cute outfits etc just for themselves, they get called out and told that they do this for male attention only.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:30 AM
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Women do nothing to attract men. Everything women do is to attract men. So, which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:18 AM
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Has dated. So it didn't eventually work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:08 AM
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If he can do that, he won't be asking for opinions. It's another question whether that's a good idea, especially if it's dating with the intention (from either side) to marry and have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:08 AM
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"want a long term relationship" vs "quickly secured dates"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:58 AM
2

Men are physically stronger and became more important providers in agricultural societies, thus obtaining more power. Also, with the emergence of the concept of private property and inheritance, men wanted to be sure of their paternity and so started to control women's reproductive function.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:15 PM
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So basically you want people to ridicule men with unattractive girlfriends harder, to discourage those men to remain single, and thus to pressure those women to try harder to be attractive, so you would have more to choose from?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:52 AM
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When for the first time in human history women have, for a brief period, been able to afford to live without a man, this is called an immense privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:42 PM
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Oldest excuse in the book for all shitty behaviour: I didn't have any options, it was inevitable etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:38 AM
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A man who uses prostitutes is in no position to call anyone a whore but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:58 AM
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If they find you attractive and are interested in dating, that's not "trying your luck" any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:37 AM
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The same is true for the average guy. The best approach is to not "try his luck" with random women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:59 AM
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If you "try your luck" with 30 women, you aren't actually interested in any of them and it's only fair that they reject you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:38 AM
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You will never feel secure in a relationship based on power.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:46 AM
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So, you have an external locus of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:48 AM
9

So, in order to trust that you can be loved, you need to feel yourself superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:29 AM
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So, for you, a relationship is not about love, it is about power.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:10 AM
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Men who are well off by means of education and career, certainly want an educated wife with similar values to mother their children. Men who got rich by some shady means -- who would want them anyeay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:19 AM
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Different interviews for CEO and office temp.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:01 PM
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You shouldn't be doing chores to get sex but because it's basic adulting. If your wife feels she's parenting you ... I guess you see the problem. It's not about turning her on, it's about not turning her off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:16 AM
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As for public gyms: if a woman wears a skinny/revealing outfit, she gets slut-shamed for wanting male attention. As if men didn't admire their own progress in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:39 AM
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Getting to know and like each other before spending money should be the norm ... but apparently there aren't many places where you can organically meet people and spend time without spending money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:19 PM
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I believe the scientific term is "Schrödinger's douchebag".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:41 PM
3

No one is obliged anything when it comes to dating, but men in their 20s fantasizing how once in their 40s they will slay young virgins might consider that 10 years into such relationship the man in his 50s will likely have trouble keeping up with the woman in her 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:52 AM
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Attractive women have social life, hobbies and friend circles: plenty of opportunities to safely screen guys, absolutely no need to risk with responding to cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:45 PM
1

I blame the microplastics pollution.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:50 PM
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Men cannot be expected to waste their brain capacity on all these petty practicalities like packing water, snacks, bandaid, tissues and sunscreen. Men need to think anbout the Roman Empire.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:14 PM
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A man who has casual sex is a chad and a player. A woman who has casual sex gets slut-shamed. You don't have mother and son purity balls. The reason is because before DNA tests there was no other way for men to make sure that they were raising their biological offspring than to make sex very taboo for women. In some cultures women are literally mutilated to make sex painful or impossible for them. There is also a reason why a man in women's space is considered a bigger risk than a woman in men's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 10:28 AM
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Women's sexuality is controlled and judged a hundred times more harshly than men's, cherry-picking anecdotes will not change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:29 AM
0

Vision starts to deteriorate at 40, so things you hear become more important than what you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:38 PM
1

Amazing how quickly we went from overpopulation crisis to underpopulation crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 07:39 PM
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How so? It's a known fact that men post gym selfies, fishing selfies and car/bike selfies on OLD apps with the direct intent to attract females.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:37 PM
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So a married man must not post selfies of himself with the fish he caught (thus signaling to all females what a mighty provider he is)?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:30 PM
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Morally equating flirting with rape? Making women responsible for men's lust? Next step burqas, perchance?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 07:00 AM
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Wait, what, women don't have to pay taxes? Or to support their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:53 PM
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The redpill strategy is to shame and discourage behaviour they don't like in women, in order to increase supply and decrease competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:42 PM
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They are, if they manage to look like cool artsy hipster types who likely have a lot of cool and exciting stuff going on in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:30 PM
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Wasn't propagation of their superior alpha genes and tradcon values the ultimate goal of the original redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 11:41 AM
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Money is important for women who are dating with the intent to find a husband and start a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:54 AM
0

100 years ago men complained that being strong and hardworking wasn't enough any more: women expected polished manners, nice suits, curled hair, smooth dance moves ets. The blame was put on Hollywood movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:54 PM
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What if biology dictates that 80% of males will not reproduce?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:06 PM
1

What do you mean by "artificially inflated"? Do we have artificially inflated standards of literacy, hygiene and grooming etc. in our modern society? Or maybe men have artificially inflated expectations of mutual desire and enthusiastic sex in marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 11:35 AM
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> common traits of men who get casually laid very frequently Extremely low standards and alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:51 PM
-1

Modern societal structures are too complicated to rely solely on physical dominance, and that is exactly why patriarchy is crumbling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:39 AM
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Are "responsible" and "empathetic" liberal or conservative traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:50 AM
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You can leave and sue him for child support and he may not pay. And he will still have to support his other child(ren), draining resources from your child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 10:43 AM
11

So you would be OK wearing a chastity belt to which only your wife has a key?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:47 AM
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So you want 100% confidence that the children you are raising are indeed your offspring. What technological solution do you offer to give women 100% confidence that their husband will not have children with another woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:13 AM
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So if a woman has a promiscuous past, it's morally wrong of her to change her ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:41 PM
10

Because if you give women education, they find so many other fun things to do. Raising kids as a SAHM isn't intellectually stimulating, raising kids and working simultaneously is exhausting. Social stigma used to pressure women into self-sacrifice, but emancipation has weakened it significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:18 PM
5

So how do you propose? "I don't love you but I see some potential in you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:21 PM
5

When you say "somebody", you mean "somebody from the range of 5-10", because 1-4 are invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:13 AM
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Cold approaching and asking for the number gives out strong "send bobs and vegana" vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:33 PM
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Dating troubles are mostly caused by erosion of the third places, people simply not meeting and getting to know people, spending most of the free time home online, gaming (men) or shopping (women), ordering food instead of going out. Women's ability to provide for themselves and men's educational underachievement only contribute to this. Gender based ideological divide is partly caused by social media algorithms segregating men and women into different echo chambers. Ant partly by capitalism dir…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:05 PM
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Womens' incentives and opportunities to "baby trap" a man, go through the legal battle for child support and raise the child alone are immeasurably smaller than men's incentives and opportunities to ask for unprotected sex, promising to take care of consequences and later deny responsibility. One woman can do this to one man, one man could do this to a hundred women. If men had a right of financial abortion, women should have a right to demand compensation from him for physical abortion, includi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:09 AM
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Don't worry, there will be no collapse on a global scale. Poor brown religious people will continue to produce babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:16 PM
9

So you are looking for a roommate, not a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:21 AM
9

Wouldn’t everything in your life be easier if you were married to someone who you didn’t 100% love but they were totally agreeable Male and female biology work somewhat differently. If a woman settles for you, you will have a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:50 AM
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As early as the 1500s, women in the towns and villages of northwestern Europe began to postpone marriage to their mid-20s, rather than their early teens, when they first became biologically capable of motherhood. Instead of marrying young and joining their in-laws’ households, they now wanted to set up an independent household, which took time and money. As young adults, they worked to save for a dowry, to purchase the linens and household pots and pans that would last their entire marriage. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:59 PM
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MeToo is a very recent thing, actually. Men have got away with "grabbying by the pussy" for a long time, marital rape was not a thing and many still don't understand why catcalling is bad. Also, I have the impression that it's often other men who ridicule woman-to-man sexual harrassment victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:33 AM
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Men's and women's sexuality in general have been viewed an treated very differently in most societies. Mostly because a) women get pregnant and b) men are physically stronger. You are absolutely right that it is not OK when a woman slaps a man's butt. One reason why some people may think it's less bad than vice versa is that the likelihood of a woman to man butt slap to escalate into rape (where the victim is physically overpowered) is much smaller. Luckily there is now more talk about the impor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:43 AM
1

Interesting that men don't care about the partner's education when multiple studies have confirmed that mother's level of education is the most reliable predictor of children's success in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:35 AM
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But you see, they will not be white children. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 07:30 AM
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There will be a bad and prolonged global depression with a constant possibility of a global catastrophe, yes. Population will continue to grow in Global South but global warming, droughts, floods, hurricanes etc threaten their livelihoods. So there will be a growing migration pressure. This will lead to conflicts, political extremism and arising dictatorships. In the Global North the majority of people will never be able to enjoy the pre-2000 upper middle class standard of living. The middle cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:44 AM
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a third option: A woman who doesn't have her head in the clouds and can actually appreciate a man who is "on her level" You can rationalize yourself into going on a date with or even marry someone, but you cannot rationalize yourself to fall in love with or desire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:26 AM
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Slightly off-topic but if you're in your 50s and dating a woman who's 21 - what's your plan? Marry her, start a family, have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:05 AM
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Higher class women recognize quiet luxury, working class women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:59 PM
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Downvote me to the hell, but the word "neurodivergent" has really lost its meaning by now. Most people claiming to be ND are self-diganosed and there is nothing divergent about their neuro, they are just socially awkward and/or have bad manners and use the ND card to avoid responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:20 PM
1

You cannot change your childhood but you can realize that your beliefs about your worth are not objective truth, they are automatic reactions you have been programmed to have. People can be re-programmed but it takes time and work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:55 PM
1

My therapist friend would say that people's beliefs about themselves (as well as their more general fixed vs growth mindset) are a product of their genes and their childhood upbringing, and that childhood part can be worked upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:15 AM
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There is nothing wrong with being single and enjoying your solitary hobbies. If you don't get bored or lonely, you can carry on like that and that is absolutely fine. But if you want to try something different for a change (because why not), then it absolutely is possible. Low testosterone? Get supplements. Skinny? Eat protein and exercise. Balding? No one cares. Autistic? If self-diagnosed then most likely no, just socially awkward due to lack of practice. Social charm, conversation skills and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:00 AM
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Make a weekly calendar of chores and set up notifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 04:18 PM
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Exactly. Having to tell or having to hint - it's the same. She carries the mental load of responsibility and management, having to manage not only the household but also the non-adulting partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 04:11 PM
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38yo chubby coworker settled for someone she did nort have feelings for, for the sake of having a family. "Standards" is a stupid concept, love will not magically happen at 6 foot or 100K.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:39 AM
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I would say that feminism has in a rather large part of the world won the battles of civic rights, right to vote, right to education, right to employment and reproductive rights. There is more awareness of and more negative attitudes towards domestic violence, abuse, discrimination and harassment. There is more female representation in decision making, more attention to women's health, more diverse images of women are in media etc. I would also say that yes, there is a certain anti-feminist and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:44 AM
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It is a sort of a spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:39 PM
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I would recommend to think of flirting as playful rather than sexual. You can talk flirty to an old lady on a farmers market
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:03 PM
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If you feel her affection, you won't feel threatened by her having male friends or posting her cute holiday outfit. If you don't feel her affection, no amount of control will make her more loyal or make you feel more fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:23 AM
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Define "options". Can she go outside of home with face uncovered? Use public transport unaccompanied by a chaperone? Talk to male colleagues and customers? Post any pictures of herself? Use any social media at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:23 AM
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People who ask "what was she wearing" presume that women must treat every man as a potential predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 07:38 AM
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Yes, most women have "options" to get fucked. Most men have exactly the same options. Go to the nearest truck stop and advertise free bj-s. There you go, no more loneliness!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:00 PM
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"Approaching women" sounds cringey, almost like a hunting manoeuvre. What happened to letting your family, friends, colleagues and acquaintances introduce you to new people?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:48 PM
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How can a relationship with a person you are not attracted to be fulfilling?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:07 AM
-1

So, with a wife and kids, you would still have OD'd, just with added panic? Why would any woman want such partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:40 PM
0

Also, you only will buy a car with sealed doors, one no man has ever sit in, even for a test drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:08 AM
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Traditional women expect the man to initiate, to invite and to pay. Liberal women insist on going 50/50 so the man won't feel like they owe something to him. Indeed, tough choice ...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:45 AM
1

Why though? If it is legal, moral, safe etc? Why can an unqualified young woman be directed to, say, cleaning or a cashier job, but not to sex work?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 09:54 PM
2

Oh but why, with your military analogy the government should be giving the sex workers college scholarships, dental plans and pensions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:01 PM
1

So the government can deny your 18yo daughter unemployment money and direct her to a brothel?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:39 PM
1

This RP crowd is mostly from poor and uneducated backgrounds where it is more common for women to monetize their sexual capital. Middle class rarely does or sees this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:20 AM
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So you would only interact with a woman you are sexually/romantically interested in? She has no other value as a human being?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:30 PM
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I would say in the case of "sleeping around to get ahead" the boss is definitely more in the wrong and in the case of "baby trapping" responsibility lies on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:31 PM
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It's not about skin tone, it's about culture, religion, values. Write in your bio that you're atheist, liberal, feminist and you're golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:19 AM
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Getting fucked is not really an achievement you may imagine it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:47 PM
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Where did you get the idea that selfish and entitled are feminine traits? Traditionally, femininity has been defined through qualities like nurturing, gentle, gracile and docile.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 01:36 PM
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So what you are advising is: lead him on, give him false hopes, risk with violent revenge once he realizes he's not the one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:09 PM
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If their moms heard this, there would be trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:17 PM
8

The more I read these red pill opinions, the more they seem to come from MENAP background.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 12:11 PM
4

But you don't need to become a stepdad if you date or even marry a single mother; many single mothers do co-parenting with the actual dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:30 PM
5

Men are seven times more likely than women to leave a seriously ill partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 12:43 AM
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So ... they need to close their eyes, open their legs and think of avoiding the societal collapse?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:58 PM
3

Some educated women are going to care. If a guy is making millions but hasn't read a book in his life, what are they going to talk about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:17 PM
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If all women start to wear more modest clothes, there will simply be a new standard of modest vs "ripe for picking" (a.k.a fair game). Then, if women want to not appear "ripe for picking", they will have to start dress even more modestly and we will have a new standard of modesty. And so on. Eventually, even women showing their hands or eyes will be considered provocative. Which has already happened in parts of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:32 AM
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Why do you even care? "Provocative" is relative and culture dependent anyway. There are probably women who try to empower themselves by the "you can look but you cannot touch" game but why would it bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:30 PM
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Throughout history, an overwhelming majority of brothel goers and prostitute users have been married men with plenty of sex at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:48 PM
1

What kind of college doesn't have group projects or discussions or study groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:33 PM
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Had to google Mr. Beast. "[...] junklord videos, where Donaldson uses a large quantity of a particular product in an unusual way or spends an extravagant amount on it [...]" Oh, OK ... If he had simply said that he wanted a really hot gf, that wouldn't have been so cringey.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:51 PM
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Most women want a partner. But they do not need one anymore. Want or need - big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:03 PM
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First of all, most socially awkward people are not autistic. Social conventions can be learned by observation, practice and reflection. Participate in various group activities, be kind, smile, be open about your willingness to learn and improve yourself. There are probably group activities intended specifically for social-emotional learning (impro, psychodrama etc). Reading high quality fiction is one way to develop your understanding how other people may think and feel, and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:39 AM
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I saw this comment from a woman once [...] Are women really that stuck up? I'll take hasty generalizations 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:34 PM
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No. This is something that is learned socially, through observation and empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:48 AM
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Start conversations with different people, not just hot girls. Talk about things that are related to the place and activity, not the person you're talking to. Be generally charming and competent, and wait to get hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:17 AM
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Stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:50 AM
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Losing weight is simple, but not easy. Similarly, most women have a Just Don't Be Stupid (JDBS) rule. Like how hard it is not to be stupid? Yet so many men fail rather spectacularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:25 PM
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You always read abour women wanting to get rid of men? Where on earth do you read this and why? An overwhelming majority of women want to find a loving partner and have a family; also they don't post about in on TikTok. There are all sorts of niche and fringe ideas and what-if speculations, they often elicit strong reactions, so algorithms feed them to more people - this can really skew our perception of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:01 AM
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What defines a traditional woman? Has no tertiary education and is a stay-at-home mom? Or works full time outside of home and does 95% of household chores? Or wears a dress and has no tattoos or piercings?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 09:57 AM
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But how can a man prove to his wife at any given moment that he hasn't conceived a child outside the marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:22 PM
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TLDR: don't cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:42 PM
1

Damaged and toxic persons generally attract damaged persons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:35 PM
1

"no other time in history where the average woman had so many options when it comes to dating" The whole concept of dating is relatively modern and new for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:16 AM
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Sure thing. And at the same time he's also probably concerned that the women's "body count" negatively affects her ability to "pair bond".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:02 PM
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... likely to be satisified by just about any woman. So the woman knows that she is not special.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:56 PM
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So, men are less picky? And invest more? So, a woman should be happy going through all the pains of pregnancy, childbirth, nursing etc, knowing that she was never special in any way and basically anybody can easily take her place?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:39 PM
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Sure, manual labour, hiking and metal concert have their own dress codes. But blue collar workers surely used to wear a suit to go to church? Instead of trendy nightclubs with overpriced drinks, try an amateur jazz band concert in your nearest art museum (or something else along these lines), just for a change. And if a suit and tie feels terribly overdressed, go for smart casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:33 AM
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Putting on something smart when going on a coffee date is not exactly "dressing like a banker". Come to think of it, not so long ago most men in urban areas wore what would classify as a dress shirt and suit most of the time, regardless of occupation and social class. Some European countries like France and Italy have a huge advantage in this -- men dare to wear a dress shirt and leather shoes and look smart and stylish without the fear that they will be seen as gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:55 AM
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Oh, most men love clean laundry etc, they just prefer it magically happen, like when they lived with mum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:49 AM
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Women are not picky because they have limitless options, but mostly because they get pregnant and they get slut-shamed (and the two phenomena are linked).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:46 AM
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A lot of people enjoy working, even at their paid jobs. Also, which part of dating feels like work? Talking to a person before they reward you with sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:25 AM
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A suit is not a display of wealth but rather of style, taste, manners, values, upbringing etc. You can buy a classy suit from a thrift store for a small price, but that means you have to put in effort and spend time to search for the nice one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:37 PM
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"Physical Prime" is a meaningless concept for most practical purposes. Most decent 18-20yo women don't want to have kids any time soon, they want an education, job, home and savings account before. To date a 35 yo man who would be 45-50 by the time she's ready for a family and 60 by the time their kids go to school? Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 05:08 PM
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No. Some unattractive men are really smooth and likable. Creepy and weird is more like unsafe because unpredictable because mentally unwell or extremely socially incompetent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:51 PM
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What men want from women for a stable family may be more than "default biology".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:27 PM
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You need a more strict observation protocol. For example, pick three distinct spots (in a railway station, at a college campus, in a movie theatre, something like that) and stay for 3 hours in each, for 3 Friday or Saturday nights on consecutive weeks. Count all pairs that hold hands or otherwise clearly display romantic interest. Rate both partners on a scale of 1 to 10 as objectively as possible. If possible, have a co-observer of opposite gender to also give ratings. And then analyze.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:57 AM
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Are you generally an interesting and fun person? Are you safe to be around? You won't get drunk and still try to hit on them? You don't do this hoping that "one day she will realize...", right? Do you have hobbies and interests that are likely compatible with womens'? Would you go shopping with them? Could you agree about the movie to see?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:44 AM
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Simple. You join a book club and wait for women to hit on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:33 PM
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Adapt? You mean tolerate or enjoy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:14 PM
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For a woman, a rationally arranged marriage with a man she is not attracted to equals to a lifetime being raped. Or, in the best case scenario, a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 11:56 AM
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Certain jobs are not considered feminine and there are multiple barriers to enter these jobs, starting from lack of role models ("I simply don't think of going to plumbing school because I have no female relatives or friends in plumbing business") and ending with mistrust from employers and co-workers ("Why is she applying for a plumber's position, is she actually technically competent and strong enough; is there something wrong with her as a women?") Girls and women are still mostly trained fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:48 AM
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Wy not create a third place yourself and/or expand your social circle yourself? Organize a book club or a charity campaign or a DnD group or a social dance class or a vegan cooking contest or pub quiz night or a young atheists' support group or a fitness challenge or whatever is of interest to you and brings togeher a group of people on a regular basis for a period of time. Or is it "too much hassle just to get laid"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:52 PM
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Tiktok videos are definitely totally not scripted, staged and acted. Also, any single Tiktok video is representative and confirmatory of a major social trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:18 PM
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By "historically" do you mean 19th century or hunter-gatherers? Because they are not the same. Also, birth rates only decline in wealthy countries, so no need to worry about extinction. Also, women in wealthy countries report having fewer children than they actually would have liked. A child is a luxury item.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:11 AM
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"Male loneliness epidemic" ... sooo ... in the 1950s, 1930s, 1890s etc most men aged 18...25 did a lot of dating, sex and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:56 PM
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"Not an actual addict" hardly equals "perfect".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:36 PM
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People should prove before a relationship that they are able to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:46 AM
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Or they can choose a stoner, run into serious problems, seek help and get asked "why didn't you choose more wisely, what exactly were you thinking, didn't you see the red flags etc".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:34 AM
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So it would be wise of women not to choose mediocre stoners hoping that female magic will turn them into achievers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:26 PM
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Most mediocre stoners remain mediocre stoners, with or without girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:03 PM
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If a 35yo man gets with 20yo woman, it's painfully obvious that he's only after a 20yo body and it will be traded for a newer model at first opportunity. Nothing wrong with that if both parties understand and consent to the conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:14 PM
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When you say "natural", is the opposite of it "cultural/social" or "unnatural"? Generally gender is understood to be social construct. Male and female sex have different roles in reproduction and to some extent this may impact their gender roles, but generally this is much more complicated that "men are natural directors, women are natural secretaries". In PISA tests in some countries boys are better at math and science than girls. In other countries, girls are better than boys. Probably cultura…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:43 AM
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Can we use AI to detect men who share and request nonconsensual nudes? No one would want to have children with such predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:57 PM
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Women date for relationships, men date for sex. An average man will have sex with almost any woman. An average woman will not have relationship (or sex) with most men. Clark, R. D., & Hatfield, E. (1989). Gender differences in receptivity to sexual offers. Journal of Psychology & Human Sexuality, 2(1), 39–55. https://doi.org/10.1300/J056v02n01_04
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 01:46 PM
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Well, women' campaigns are generally also "it's ok to be regular" (to have stretch marks or cellulite, to have wrinkles or grey hair etc). While of course the whole beauty industry tells them the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:37 AM
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Most people are average looking but women have been conditioned to put in a lot more effort to upgrade their looks (makeup, hair, clothes etc). While men have been conditioned to NOT put in much effort, so as to not look gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 01:52 PM
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Very, very few men are actually ugly. Most are average and most average men can be easily upgraded. Height is mostly an issue in lower social classes where men are expected to be traditional strong protectors, ready to fight. In an arts/humanities college with 80% female students from upper middle class, a short guy will be showered with attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:27 PM
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It's not ruling out people because of not liking their garment. Clothes signal something. Cargo shorts signal "I am not on the market". Not even necessarily in the bad way -- as someone pointed out, it's dad apparel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:17 PM
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Actually, Brad Pitts don't wear cargo shorts. Ever. Cargo shorts make any man look like an oversized toddler.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:08 PM
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They totally are comfortable. Also, they are a highly efficient date prospect repellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:59 AM
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Cargo shorts loudly scream "I am so not interested in meeting ladies."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:41 AM
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If you're 5'5" you can somewhat compensate with energy, wit, style and class. There are plenty of 5'2" women. Recessed chin is a non-issue. Wear black merino turtleneck sweater and designer glasses. Poor is honestly the worst. But there are different kinds of poor. A struggling philosophy major who flips burgers and pours beer to finance his studies will do better than a high school dropout who smokes weed and games in his mom's basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:40 AM
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1) Be reasonably fit. Look classy: educated, smart, impeccably clean, well groomed, smelling nice, with a sense of style. No cargo shorts and graphic t-shirts. 2) Look happy, friendly, chill, content with your life, fun to be around. 3) Have things to talk about, read books, learn stuff, have hobbies (gaming doesn't qualify). 4) Have a good circle of friends who lift you up and inspire you to improve. 5) Don't avoid activities and places where women go. But also don't go to these places with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 09:48 AM
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I suspect young people have less casual sex in 2023 than they had in 2000. Anyway, 25% of women may have an ONS in their lifetime, but it doesn't mean that 25 out of 100 women would be open to it at any given moment. Edit: see also Clark & Hatfield experiment and numerous follow-ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:59 PM
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Average men don't get casual sex because 90% of women don't care about casual sex (high risk low reward) and the 10% who care can easily pick above average guys. So an average man should grind to be above average in as many aspects as possible (still may not get any) or focus on other endeavours.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:43 PM
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How can you be so sure and swear that you will love your virgin bride-to-wife forever? What if you just fall out of love wit her? People grow apart an start to resent each other despite their honest best efforts. Why would you commit yourself ro a life in prison? And "I must be her last" frankly sounds scary. How exactly will you stop her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:15 PM
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Building things is not toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity is telling other men that therapy is women's stuff and real men should build things instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:22 PM
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Practicing sports and building things can be emotionally soothing but these activities will not fix nor prevent counterproductive behavioral patterns in relationships. That would require more refined self-work and assistance from a trained professional can be helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:57 PM
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If you are at home studying all day, a woman approaching you would be trespassing. Also, no women should make her career choices based on what might make her more attractive to some abstract man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:06 AM
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So, AI will take the jobs from teachers and nurses, but robots will not take manufacturing jobs from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:00 PM
2

How exactly is a man who has had sex with 50 not very attractive women and is still single a winner?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:49 PM
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Being insecure by itself is not toxic or dangerous but it may, if untreated, lead to toxic coping mechanisms or toxic (controlling, manipulative etc) behaviour in relationships. Goes for both men and women. Also, it's OK to have preferences, you just don't need to be dick about them. Don't call short men gnomes or manlets, don't call overweight women hippos or landwhales etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:45 AM
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You are saying law is actually useful for society and psychologi isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:44 AM
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Why don't desperate men simply go for old, fat and/or ugly women? As they wish women gave a chance to unattractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:30 AM
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"Remember, my daughter, you don't need no education, you can always sell your body for food."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:19 AM
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What you are describing here is just one of the many male/masculine archetypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:37 PM
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Correction: mentally retarded women get sexually abused by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 06:44 PM
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Well, if you need to masturbate 3 or more times a week - just go ahead, what's stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:27 PM
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Looks will get your foot in the door but personality will seal the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:57 AM
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Not necessarily common interests but mutually appreciated interests? Like, if you are a fan of skincare products and he finds it stupid and ridiculous, that might harm the relationship in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:54 AM
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You say "would be justified" as if it was something that never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:11 AM
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Below average looking women are human beings, not some kind of game workout stations who are somehow obliged to tolerate "minor inconveniences" of being used by entitled men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:44 AM
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OK, I understand that uncommitted sexual encounters are getting increasingly normalized (more so in art and media that in actual people's lives) but where and how does pressuring come into play?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:55 PM
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At the start of World War I, Admiral Charles Fitzgerald, who was a strong advocate of conscription, wanted to increase the number of those enlisting in the armed forces. Therefore he organized on 30 August 1914 a group of thirty women in his home town of Folkestone to hand out white feathers to any men that were not in uniform. Fitzgerald believed using women to shame the men into enlisting would be the most effective method of encouraging enlistment. (Wikipedia) So, a powerful man manipulated w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:22 PM
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What is your definition of a "hook-up culture"? What is the evidence that it exists? Where? Among whom? And what exactly is your critique of it from a sociological perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:55 PM
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The nature of social media is to amplify sensational, extreme and niche content that elicits strong reactions. Reality is much different. Also, if you want this perfect goddess woman, then you better don't want children. Because with 2 or 3 screaming toddlers all this toned and tuned demure-allure goes out of the window really fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:23 PM
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And all the men wanting virgin or low n girlfriends are also from the groups you mentioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:02 AM
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In most cultures (with the concepts of private property and inheritance) men have tried to control female sexuality because they wanted to make sure they only raise their own offspring. These cultural norms (slut shaming etc) are pretty pervasive, even in the era of dna testing. My personal attitudes are entirely different matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:59 AM
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So all these people who upvote comments like "a woman who has had sex with 20 partners is like a pair of shoes that has had 20 owners" are biblebelt conservatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:43 AM
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OK, let's rephrase: female sexuality needs to be controlled by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:41 AM
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Because of reproductive investment, women have evolved to be picky and men to be opportunistic. Because of patriarchy and abrahamic religions, generations of women have been somewhat successfully persuaded that female sexual desire and pleasure are sinful and sex is a reward women give to their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:13 AM
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Being penetrated by someone significantly stronger than you and not really caring about your wellbeing is not necessarily a pleasurable experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:26 PM
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When I said better at sex and relationships, I was thinking more in the lines of more confident setting boundaries and more comfortable in her own skin. Also better understanding how attraction and desire work. Low n woman is high dead bedroom risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:17 PM
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So ... you have allegedly had sex with multiple low n women, thus raising their n, but somehow they are bad and you are good?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:05 PM
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Hopefully this is a weird joke and not what you are actually expecting from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:52 PM
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Woman B has more experience with sex and relationships, so she is likely better at it. Would you choose a surgeon/pilot/chef who has only done 2 gigs?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:37 PM
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For a remotely meaningful answer you would have to calibrate the scales: which female BMI corresponds to which male net annual income.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:32 PM
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People act in dating apps like they were shopping for a partner, while in fact they should act like applying for a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 06:08 PM
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She is not overweight and her face is totally ok if you look past the expressions and styling. But I understand that guys here just want to make women doubt themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:31 PM
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She looks young, fit, has a cute face, seems quirky and fun. Ignore the weird outfit and hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 02:43 PM
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White woman knows she is never going to be good enough for the Asian guy's tiger mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:27 PM
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The general principle that women are primarily valued for their looks (youth, health, fertility) is rooted in biology (men's preferences).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 11:02 AM
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Why is "friendzone" so bad? Because it hurts to be around someone you love but cannot be with? Or because you didn't actually like her for reasons other than sex anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:59 PM
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"I see you as a good friend" -- does it qualify as "shuts it down" or "strings him along"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:18 AM
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No, genetics don't work like that. Super attractive parents often have average children and super attractive children often have average parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:08 PM
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Don't approach hot and wild popular cheerleader type Stacys, go for that nerdy chubby plain Jane.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:53 PM
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If she is poor but hot, there will be a lot of competition. If you are average, you need to go not for poorer but for uglier women. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 04:58 PM
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Ending up in abusive relationships is most often also an effect of childhood trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:21 PM
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Isn't getting stuck in unhealthy patterns and inability of making good decisions part of the definition of "damaged"? Why don't lonely men just heal and overcome their despair?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:12 PM
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OK so what is it then that makes an abusive relationship more desirable to you than no relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:56 PM
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So basically damaged men are miserable because they get no sex, but damaged women are privileged because even if they get abused, they still get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:45 PM
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Damaged women are privileged to get repeatedly abused?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:38 PM
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Status often correlates with (some would even say is caused by) intelligence, charizma, energy, wit, social competence etc. If someone is successful because they are resourceful, what is actually really valued in them, the input or the output?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:59 AM
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Paternity test would give a man certainty that he only provides for his biological offspring. What could give a woman certainty that his husband will not have children outside marriage to provide for? Sone sort of chastity belt?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:48 AM
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Maybe the ex was significantly smaller?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:04 PM
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In OLD, women's first swipe criterion (whether explicit or unconscious) is "can I imagine myself kissing this person". Then come social status, intelligence, ambition and everything else. Rating people by photos works the same way. Finding chemistry and building rapport in real life works somewhat differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 11:06 AM
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East EU had strong independent atheist women long before US. Edit: forgot to mention reproductive rights and universal health care.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:52 AM
1

But the US males who want submissive virgin wives, also want white children ...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:31 AM
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Oh but they do. Otherwise weight loss business wasn't a gazillion dollar business.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:24 AM
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6 figures, notoriety, network, useful to the group - sounds a lot like Sopranos.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:30 PM
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Simple - yes; easy - no. Otherwise there wouldn't be an obesity epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:04 AM
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Well, she might, if you liked her for HER, not approached her as "hopefully desperate enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:02 AM
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Would you date a fit, independent, intelligent and chill woman who is 5'10" and built like a fridge? There you go ...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:00 AM
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College girls are responsible adults if they choose older men, but they are stupid hoes on their way to used-up roasties if they choose chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:47 PM
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Most parents would want their cildren to be healthy and happy and live a good life. Being neurotypical, heterosexual and cisgender is still way easier in most parts of the world, so it's probably what most parents wish for their children. But when it happens otherwise - what can you do? You should still love and support your child the best you can, not pressure them into something they can't be. Conversion therapies don't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:11 PM
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How exactly does "infatuation fades away" corroborate "everything that american men complain about american society and women"? Also, if all research is ideologically biased crap, how can you know research that "corroborates everything that american men complain about american society and women" isn't? Also, Dr Laura isn't exactly research worth citing to support a claim. Or if you do, you might need to demostrate how what passport bros are doing isn't "sense of entitlement comes from a culture …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:59 AM
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I guess it depends on your definition of success, but https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/09/07/college-grads-in-u-s-tend-to-partner-with-each-other-especially-if-their-parents-also-graduated-from-college/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:14 AM
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Vaguely successful - maybe yes. But actually successful men prefer intelligent and educated mothers for their children. And an even vaguely intelligent educated woman won't stay in the kitchen because her brain needs stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:02 AM
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TL;DR men have lower standards but somehow it's women's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:27 AM
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Men love with their eyes, women with their ears. (Anon.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 07:26 PM
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It's a lot simpler than that. Whoever is interested in repeating the experience, should put in effort to motivate the partner to participate. (Ideally both, of course.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:51 PM
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The whole concept of "approaching" is cringey, sounds more like a military manoeuvre than human interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:57 AM
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Still very slim chances of having an orgasm, as that would require attention and cooperation from the partner. Will that random dude actually bother? High risk, low reward. That's why most women opt for "not at all". Rampant female promiscuity is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:16 AM
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Have you ever been penetrated without lubrication? That would be bad sex from a woman's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:08 AM
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Very uncommon in middle and upper middle class. Slightly more common in traumatized girls from poor families. Never nearly as common as TRP men fantasize.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:00 AM
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It is easy for women to get bad sex. Bad as not meh but literally painful. For men, sex is almost guaranteed satisfaction. For women - not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:27 PM
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Talk to women. Talk. Not "chat up" or "approach". The whole concept of approaching is cringey.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 06:27 PM
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Intelligent women will prefer a nice and intelligent high school teacher with a student loan to a dumb nouveau riche with a collection of sports cars. But there are definitely women who value financial security above meaningful conversations. Coming from a poor background often does it - "never again..."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:36 PM
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It's like telling girls "just don't be fat". Both require a certain amount of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:17 PM
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Not all people on the spectrum are even interested in dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:57 PM
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Easy fix: wear a suit. Add glasses and a laptop bag for even better results.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:31 PM
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Well, if some fit guys go for fat girls, that just means less competition for fit girls, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:00 PM
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But obesity rates are fairly similar among men and women? Sot fit men can date fit women, fat men fat women and obese men obese women? What am I missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:20 PM
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Sorry for off-topic but I'm curious: what is your opinion (or US male consensus) about women's BMI ranges for skinny, normal, chubby, fat and obese? And where do you draw the line "undateable"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:45 PM
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Women view partnered men more positively, regardless of the looks of the gf/wife, because it's in the interest of women to have less competition. Other men will respect single men more than the ones who lower the standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:10 AM
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Sure. All you have to do is stay young. How hard is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:49 PM
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A man and a woman are dating. The man considers himself single, the woman thinks she's in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:36 AM
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It's about trying to influence the supply and demand of young attractive women, consciously or not. Scare stories of miserable single old women --> young women lowering their expectations. (Fatshaming is also intended to increase the supply of attractive women; it doesn't exactly work though.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:25 PM
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Women have always been valued mostly for their looks (youth, health, fertility) and they have been conditioned to put in the effort (body, hair, makeup, outfit etc). Men, on the contrary, have been told that taking care of their looks was gay. Online dating where first impression - based mostly on looks - matters so much, favours women. And men who are willing to adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 01:47 AM
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Among the core dimensions of socioeconomic status, maternal education is the most strongly associated with children’s cognitive development. (https://doi.org/10.1177/000271621772947)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:57 AM
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"Acted like a lady etc" - that was true for a small minority of upper classes, during a limited period of time, in certain Western countries. When you compare this with the entirety of human history and geography, it's actually an exception rather than tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:07 PM
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Correction: satisfying sex is not easy to get for women. This is important. For men, sex is almost always good. For women, bad sex is literally painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 08:52 AM
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In the EU 42% of children are born outside of marriage. In Scandinavia it's more than a half. Most women work full time, there is universal healthcare, parental leave and affordable day care. No gender is more incentivised than the other to stay or leave. But both parents must provide for the children, with money and/or actual care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 07:45 AM
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"try to stay in shape it’s basically all we ask for" Will you fall in love with just any woman who is in shape? Marry just any woman who is in shape? Choose any woman who is in shape to be the mother of your children? No further criteria at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:24 PM
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