mgtow_lib Archive

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2	I keep becoming the workhorse and I hate it I want to help people, but I don't want to be taken advantage of. Why do you want to help people? I became aware that helping people both allowed me to feel control/power, and provided the illusion that people liked me. Of course using utility to bribe people into pretending to like me was ultimately a terrible thing. It took me some time to realize the niceguy orbiting ulterior motivation style behavior went far beyond women. it was a cancer in my life. Did removing it make my life better? I'm …	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 04:29 AM
2	What needs to change? Nothing needs to change. hypergamy is the agent of change, and it will not be stopped. IMO its a self reinforcing cycle that leads to the collapse of the current system. Human nature doesn't change, change is forced. Its sad commentary on human nature. The more successful women are the less happy they are. This is because the same power dynamic that makes men miserable is what makes women miserable once they become too successful. What makes it sad? the less successful a woman is the more likely…	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 04:17 AM
1	Life for women is 'Life on Easy Mode'. Who'd rather be an attractive woman than a MGTOW man? Depends on where and in what year. 2020 in the US? sure I'd choose to be born a woman if it was certain to be at least average in this hypothetical. I dont know I'd call it easy mode. its several very significant advantages that need to be carefully navigated to realized. Its a bit of a tightrope act, but the rewards are there.	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 03:50 AM
1	Generally curious about you fellas So do you guys legitimately believe that nobody can be happy in a relationship? sith, absolute, etc. I'm sure it happens, but it seems to be rare. I think people are conditioned to be unhappy because they are conditioned to want more. How big a factor that is will be determined by how easily a person thinks they could get more. Have many of you been in shitty relationships that soured your taste to being in one? Yep.all it took was two relationships to dispel any of the romantic notions I had ab…	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 03:45 AM
1	How Do You Feel About Inventions? Its difficult to have an idea now that is original and of value. Oh you'll have people that unwittingly stumble into a niche that was overlooked, but just because you invented bullettball doesn't make you Elon Musk. I've seen the idea that some people hone, others forge. I hone. I take things other people have made and use it to do things that have already been done, but in a way that pleases me. I dont really do anything new.	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 03:23 AM
2	Just to let you all know, we gay men are not treated any better by women. I posted this because I think women are even more anti- gay. How about an alternative. I've known women that say they hate women. I couldn't understand this and came to the conclusion that those women cant handle interacting with someone not trying to get into their pants. The absence of deferential treatment probably feels incredibly hostile to them. Interacting with a gay guy is like putting every male friendship they have under a microscope, and that in turn says something about them. All the…	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 03:13 AM
1	Dealing with porn addiction - a realistic perspective Porn addiction is overblown. Oh I'm sure it exists, but most of the complaints seem to be from women who view it as a challenge to their power/value. I'm willing to be that contrary to what most people probably think, a shockingly high percentage of so-called porn addicts would just stop entirely if they found an enthusiastic partner. Maybe I'm just some special unicorn but thats how it worked for me. circumstances turned me from a low value "porn addict" into a high value guy that was having se…	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 02:55 AM
1	Why does society as a whole put marriage on a pedestal? Cognitive dissonance/tradition/sunk cost. The status quo defends itself, and is encouraged to do so by very potent mechanisms.	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 02:29 AM
1	How do you guys handle having a crush on a woman? The same way as wishing I could time travel. Jokes aside, without reciprocation, the crush is a fiction. Guys invent women that literally dont exist, give themselves reasons not to "ruin a good thing" Its a preference for the reality they have created. Most of the time the only thing those guys know about the woman the project their fanfiction on is that they tolerate orbiters well. They lack the self awareness to see that what allows such an alternate reality to exist is an excessive one sided …	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 02:28 AM
1	Thought experiment: What if men started marrying "up"? What would happen if men started marrying economically "higher"? What would happen if people started winning the lottery? They do, but its an insignificant number.	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 02:15 AM
2	Just to let you all know, we gay men are not treated any better by women. hateful, of gay/LGBT men. It might be because you think women treat us better Maybe a Misperception due to the overlap between the manosphere and the alt right which is hostile to lgbt?	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 02:09 AM
1	Advice on physical/mental well being I couldn’t afford any equipment You dont need equipment. A variety of body-weight exercises exist, as well as many you can do with mundane items.	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 02:03 AM
5	Do you want a joke? The engineer thinks the glass is the wrong size... and gets told they are mansplaining.	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 02:01 AM
3	How do you guys feel about vagina owners identifying as non-binary? Gender identity is a giant mess where people with opposing views accept no nuance. Its with us or against us. I dont really care what label people attach to themselves. Forget the label, look at what the implication is. In this context it seems likely to be a reaction to the intersectional oppression Olympics that have been going on. In other words, someone mgtow is likely to see as having a certain degree of intrinsic privilege and reacting to to that. Cant really go beyond that without creatin…	/r/MGTOW2	14/08/20 01:47 AM
1	I am glad this sub is not quarantined. Extreme just means outside of the overton window imo. On this topic that window is tiny. The actual problem is when someone did go too far, how hard are people in that sub going to go to defend women? That's what makes echo chambers problematic in this context.	/r/MGTOW2	07/02/20 01:42 PM
1	I am glad this sub is not quarantined. No one says that MGTOW cannot have girlfriends People who want to strawman and be dismissive will fight about literal definitions/labels. I've considered myself mgtow since about 2005 before I was aware of any of the "manosphere" My sense of things wasn't about excluding or hating women, it was about excluding ulterior motives. Put bluntly the women who didn't need me didn't want anything to do with me and I knew it, the women who needed me I didn't want. Result? mgtow. How do you exclude ulteri…	/r/MGTOW2	07/02/20 01:27 PM