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You moved the goal post here. We’re clearly talking about MONEY, and that only. And no, all men don’t have to pay because not all men are tricks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:57 PM
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Do you have a rich sugar daddy? And how many MEN do you have access to that would break you off like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 08:53 PM
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There are some differences, no doubt. But on this I think there may be a similar response between them in my example because we’re talking about ego and pattern recognition.
/r/seduction21/08/25 12:33 AM
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I understand stand what you’re saying. You and I just have different interpretations. Not at all true. You can make women feel a ‘spark’ by the way you talk to them. This to me is not a spark. This is just being able to charm and make her laugh. Which is useful too. And even then, this to me sounds like amplifying an existing attraction versus creating one out of thin air. A spark to me is something immediate. Intrinsic. From the first time you two meet there’s something there. That’s why you of…
/r/seduction21/08/25 12:22 AM
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Be yourself.
/r/seduction20/08/25 09:10 PM
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No. There’s nothing you can do to get a woman to “feel the spark.” That’s something primal. She either has it for you or she doesn’t. If she does—celebrate. If she doesn’t—move on to the next girl.
/r/seduction20/08/25 09:08 PM
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The only unnatural sexual behavior is no sexual behavior at all Sigmund Freud
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:22 PM
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Fair enough. That’s your call to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:04 PM
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I respect the honesty and self awareness 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:59 AM
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I gotta keep it real. You think you’re safe with average, but it’s the average girl who is doing the most outside. She actually has more options in different ways than a 10 does What keeps a woman loyal isn’t her looks. It’s her code of honor. Furthermore, I think you should have more self confidence. Alphas don’t think what if I screw it up with her. Their mindset is whatever girl he chooses to be in a relationship better not screw it up with him. That’s the frame you should have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:52 AM
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Interesting. I appreciate the honesty that it’s more about your insecurity. Self awareness is king.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:40 AM
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You should specify that you’d pick a 5 with a good personality over a 10 with a poor attitude. I know that’s what you mean. But all things being equal. Only difference is looks—one is a 5 and the other is a 10–you’re taking the 10 bro. Let’s be for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:33 AM
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Self awareness is critical everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:32 AM
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Your comparison though has literally NOTHING to do with beauty and everything with age. Yes, there are objective aspects to being described as hot. Handsome and pretty have been shown to come down to facial symmetry. But there are still subjective aspects that make beauty overwhelming in the eye of the beholder
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:31 AM
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I think what you’re describing as negging isn’t really negging but more so guys just putting a beautiful woman down and being assholes—which isn’t negging. Nor do I condone that behavior either. It’s shitty. Negging is meant to be playful, and lighthearted. The person being negged knows it’s not serious and the person saying it doesn’t actually mean it and thinks the world of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:24 AM
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Let’s switch these locations up.
/r/seduction15/08/25 04:25 AM
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Not really. Most men aren’t getting what they want from women any way. So revoking sexual access—from men who weren’t getting any in the first place—doesn’t take anything. Nothing gained nothing lost. And of that, the number of women participating in the 4B movement is not that large. Also, let’s be real, the majority of men are not checking for those ladies in the first place. So the guys who are desirable, are just gonna get sex from somewhere else. They have that much abundance of options. I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:18 AM
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All you can do is remind him of your intentions or needs. Beyond that, the ball is in his court. Best of luck ❤️
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/25 03:42 PM
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The original comment that I was responding to was that men lie for sex. We’re not going to move the goal post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:36 PM
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He’s probably planning a surprise. He sounds intentional. And is maybe lining other things up in place for his life and business before proposing. But playing devil’s advocate, he also maybe could be full of shit. I don’t know. Did he say why his first marriage failed? Were there any infidelity issues in his past? I would advise you to keep your cool for now. Don’t blow a gasket. Easier said than done though given how you’re feeling.
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/25 03:32 PM
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No person likes to feel that way. Men don’t want to be “settled” for any more than a woman does. Both sides reject that frame. Especially given the amount of sacrifice a marriage takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:27 PM
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Well he can say a lot of things. The moment yall go to the courthouse is where it’ll be proven. A guy can want more kids but not want to be married again. And he may be saying those things to appease you. Does he have his own house? How established is he?
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/25 03:21 PM
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I’m going to copy this comment here again. Men and women respond to youth in a person. Men finding younger women more attractive than older women because they’re healthier and in the prime of looks doesn’t automatically mean he’s going to sleep with some 21 year old bimbo over his faithful wife. You’re projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:13 PM
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How does someone accidentally get pregnant? Either you’re having unprotected sex, or you’re on birth control and forgot to take a pill. And you’re feeling resentment because you’re yall were laying up for almost a year. Now you’re pregnant, and about to be 40. Yet this man hasn’t locked you down with a ring. If he doesn’t, you’re looking at being a 40 year old single mom. Let’s be honest about the situation. Now that we’ve gotten that out of the way. Here’s the truth: you can’t force a man to ma…
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/25 03:00 PM
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All women (all people) are obsessed with status. That’s a human thing. Your survival or ability to survive is directly tied to the amount status you have within your tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:54 PM
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Both. Women don’t want to be used for casual sex if that’s not her desire as well. And, women will have very negative reactions to men’s truth and honest admissions to them. However, that does not mean I advocate for men lying about their intentions. As a man if you only want casual sex be straight up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:11 PM
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Men as a group don’t lie for sex. Please stop using the small minority or sample size of guys who do anything for coochie as the representatives of all men. Men who are desirable don’t have to lie to women for sex. Women will lie to themselves to be with those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:09 PM
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I’ve tested what Tariq has said about relationships in his books and they’ve worked for me in my life. It’s practical knowledge. Why do you say he’s a nutcase?
/r/seduction13/08/25 01:35 PM
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May you please give me the definition of a horn dog so that we have a universal reference?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:32 PM
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Read these three books. Evolution of Desire by David Buss Mate: Become The Man Women Want by Tucker Max Art of Mackin by Tariq Nasheed In short, all women want a man to have leadership skills. Honestly, leadership is what manhood is about. So get yourself physically fit first. Then intellectually learn and increase your intelligence. Then build up your social skills. Have money, but don’t be a trick. These are the basics. You’ll learn more and understand more as time goes on in your journey.
/r/seduction13/08/25 12:12 PM
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What statistics? Are you saying the majority of women reject men who pay for sex workers because they’re insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:46 AM
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You’re judging ALL male behavior from the lowest common denominator of us. It’s clear you’ve fixated on a certain archetype of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:43 AM
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Less than 10% of women would react that way. 80-90% of them would lose respect for you if you admitted you paid for sex. And you know that. Which is why you don’t tell them to maintain your self-image in their eyes. And that’s fine. But let’s be honest with ourselves and not misrepresent the game. You not admitting to paying for sex workers is no different than the girl who doesn’t tell her husband she used to be a sex worker herself. People conceal what they don’t wish to reveal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:34 AM
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What exactly is it about male sexuality that disinterests you from marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:29 AM
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Men and women respond to youth in a person. Men finding younger women more attractive than older women because they’re healthier and in the prime of looks doesn’t automatically mean he’s going to sleep with some 21 year old bimbo over his faithful wife. You’re projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:28 AM
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Sir I’ll ask you one simple question: is drinking a social activity or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:55 AM
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I use the “I’m down for whatever” line for when I’m at the club or bar and she asks me “what are you up to for tonight?” I like to leave it open ended and see how she responds. I do agree—being decisive with sexual tension shows positive leadership skills as a guy.
/r/seduction12/08/25 07:51 PM
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Tone is what definitely makes or breaks it. It has to be the right smooth, low baritone, with the right eye contact to go with it.
/r/seduction12/08/25 05:13 PM
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1. I’m refuting it by saying the context of the information is no longer relevant. That’s like someone trying to talk about how things were done in the Bible thousands old years ago even though we’re living in the modern era. I don’t need to find my own data sources to counter yours if your data is hot garbage. 2. Casual sex is related to how much people socialize with each other. Not how much alcohol they drink. The reason there’s less casual sex going on in today’s generation is because they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:25 PM
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I’ve never expressly said “let’s fuck” because that’s just not my style. But I’ve definitely had to do a “let’s cut the shit.” I usually say “I’m down for whatever,” or “come here,” and then make a move.
/r/seduction11/08/25 10:42 PM
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Ok let’s recap. 1. So you do admit that there are single, childless women who would love to exit the workforce, marry, and start family. We’ve confirmed the desire exists.** Thank you. 2. It is possible to survive on a single income if you have an exceptional skill and generational wealth. There are many men doing it today. I just wanted to clarify that. But you’re right, median income does not cut it anymore by itself. 3. You’ve highlighted the risk and deeper fear women have. That of a depende…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:58 PM
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So having a high sex drive makes someone desperate and a creep? Does that include women too?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:43 PM
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And what I’m saying is I agree with you! The women do mean it when they say they don’t feel any attraction…for that guy at that moment. Swap him out with someone else who is that woman’s type and she will respond differently. This is what the men are upset about. Chad is just a symbol for “this guy is different than me.” You can substitute him for any other person. The incels and red pill men are upset with women (when they need to look in the mirror) because they can see women responding to ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:34 PM
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Lmao now you’re being disingenuous 😂. You either are lying or are truly living in a very small bubble and are not circulating in enough different spaces to see the full landscape. There are whole threads of women on social media and in real life who make these claims all the time. Please let’s be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:30 PM
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Which part isn’t true? And continuing with your logic, why would you say men are more desperate and creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:25 PM
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I didn’t say that her not liking sex couldn’t have been a reason. I said it’s not always the case. And I do believe women. As a matter of fact, I believe them when they say things like “I used to find pretty much every guy icky or just ugly. But for you, it’s different.” Hence why I made the statement she may not have found someone she actually desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:24 PM
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Men are wired to read more into a positive interpersonal interaction with a woman out of biology. It’s an evolutionary adaptation to make sure a man wasn’t missing any chance to reproduce or pass on his genes. So sadly, this is how you have guys thinking girl is “into him” just because she smiled at him. Yes, if we did have a more strong and competent class of men women would interact with men as a group much more positively. Sadly, this is what happens after 60 plus years of single motherhood r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:20 PM
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I’m not a child. If you have an issue with my statement then say it and let’s debate the merits of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:27 PM
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You don’t read or critically think very well. Yes women still marry. They don’t marry at the same rate as previous generations. Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:27 PM
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And those women are just as delusional as the men who complain about wanting to be treated and responded to like an alpha when they’re not one. Both sides have a lack of self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:57 PM
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No it’s some guys who are really cleaning up out here. But the sex isn’t the problem. What upsets these men is they can clearly see women giving these other guys MOUNTAINS of desire, acknowledgement, and respect that they don’t receive. It’s debilitating to them to receive no likes. No eye contact. No indicators of interest. Then they go online or in real life and see other men having their way. It makes them so jealous and resentful. And that negativity builds up inside them to make them do cra…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 12:31 PM
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Yes, single childless women in their 20s and 30s are happy compared to other groups of women such as single moms. However, as you age your needs or desires change. And the flipside is also true. We all know many single childless women who work and are wishing they could meet their husband now so they can start a family and leave their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 12:27 PM
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A woman’s lack of sexual activity does not always indicate or correlate to a lack of desire to have sex in general. It just means she hasn’t met someone who fits her standards. Which is fine. And I’m not one of these guys who cries about not having casual sex either. I actually have options in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 12:22 PM
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So singleness in general creates economic profit. Profit is born out of natural supply and demand. You don’t have to create it. It already exists. What singleness creates are different spending and consumption patterns. As well as priorities. And when you control for gender differences, you see some interesting disparities and outcomes with these patterns and priorities. You keep trying to simplify things too small. Both you and OP could have argued this without hyper focusing on either gender a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 10:05 PM
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And again, the point is the broader macroeconomic trends that are taking place in society. You keep trying to spin to take the focus off of women. And they’re not even being attacked. Just pointing out simple math. OP is saying male loneliness is for the sake of economic profit. I’m saying economic profit comes NOT from male loneliness, but rather giving women economic agency while simultaneously taking away their ability or desire to mate long term. The result is an increase or doubling of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:32 PM
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The full section was this Singles outspent average U.S. households on a per person adjusted basis in several key categories The point was key categories, which included personal care items. Hence my reference to the closets, shoes, and retail therapy. Obviously a household will spend more on certain items than a single female out of necessity. The article answered your own second question. So how will let's say the average person's care product spending look like in a mix gendered household? The…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 08:01 PM
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You’re taking my quote out of the context of consumerism to apply it to dating. Single women are still actively on dating apps, going out to social events, and otherwise open to a romantic relationships if an opportunity arises. How is that giving up on dating?? What you meant to say was that why are women feeling defeated when it comes to dating? The answer is this: Most single women today are looking for a specific TYPE of man to partner with. And that type of man is in low supply amongst men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:43 PM
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Consumer Psychology 101: people spend money emotionally more than they do logically. And women are much easier to emotionally manipulate than men are. They have a greater need for affection. Case in point with your shopping example. Who do you think were the ones that came up with the term retail therapy? Certainly not men. The higher rates of depression and mental illness also follow along with it. Who knew working a 40-60 hour work week would be so damaging to the psyche after 5-10 years in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 05:57 PM
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Men technically can get their sex needs met from porn and masturbation. Hence why porn and OF are billion dollar industries. The sex needs you’re describing from men are really about companionship, or lack thereof. Also, women have greater needs than just sex. Again, this is a recurring theme on this forum but I must repeat it: just because it is easy for the average woman to get casual sex does not make it better for her if that’s NOT what she wants. Most women don’t want to lay down with a bun…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 05:51 PM
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If you like him as well then you can go ahead and ask him out or initiate. However, I’d tell my daughter that a man should have some boldness. It’s not a good sign if he’s afraid to do something basic and communicate how he feels and his intentions.
/r/seduction10/08/25 03:41 PM
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Good thought. I’ll take it a step further though. The economy profits from women working and not being married and having children. As it stands, women already control a large share of the U.S. consumer wallet. They contribute an estimated $7 trillion to the U.S. gross domestic product per year, according to the Center for American Progress, and are the principal shoppers in 72% of households, according to consumer surveys conducted by MRI-Simmons. Source: Morgan Stanley September 2019 Women spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:34 PM
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This study was published in 2014, more than 10 years ago. Please update your files to more recent information. This study defines casual sex within the context of a bar or club. No reference to the MODERN era of dating apps, which no require no alcohol. Or casual relationships created through mutual friends or shared hobbies. The study is only referring to the patterns of women. So that stat is 89% of the time a woman in that study had a drink before she hooked up with a random stranger at a bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 06:03 AM
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They definitely do feel entitled to attraction from women. It doesn’t work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:36 AM
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Go for it! Like I said, approach respectfully. For me that means approaching a woman the way I would want a man to approach my sister.
/r/seduction09/08/25 07:43 PM
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Then I’d say it’s more or less the same tactics. Have a social life, approach respectfully, and take what the women give you at first.
/r/seduction09/08/25 07:28 PM
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Oh there definitely is a correlation between alcohol intake and decision making, which usually leads to casual sex. But 80% is a crazy stat! Especially the point you brought up about how the younger generation is drinking less and less.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:26 PM
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How much German do you speak?
/r/seduction09/08/25 07:16 PM
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The only men that cry about it are usually the ones who are not receiving what they would feel is their fair share of casual sex from women. They hate being rejected. Nor do those men understand women or male-female dynamics at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:45 PM
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Where’s the proof that this isn’t true? Men have the saying “you need to multiple by 3” when a woman tells you their sexual history for a reason. Women control sex and reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:43 PM
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What you just said is completely wrong. 80% of college age casual sex is triggered by intoxication?? That means if 10 college students had casual sex, 8 of them did it because they were drunk or high? Are you serious? Where did you get this stat from? What did school did you go to?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:40 PM
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As a woman though, I’d like to ask you: First, have you ever had a friend who did this? And do you have insight as to why women may block guys trying to meet talk to their friends when they’re out? Especially when the friend seems to like the guy?
/r/seduction05/08/25 01:01 AM
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Oh lol yeah that wouldn’t work 😂. I was joking. You’d have to really be that guy or the girl would have to be fed up with her friend for it to work. That’s why I followed up with the second part.
/r/seduction05/08/25 12:52 AM
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Why would he start drama? Oh wait, are you referring to my first sentence and not the part about having your friend talk to the group of girls with you?
/r/seduction05/08/25 12:50 AM
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She will. This is a successful tactic many men have executed before. It’s classic
/r/seduction05/08/25 12:47 AM
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You could call them out on their shit. But the best tactic is to have one of your friends set a screen for you and have him talk to the cockblocking friend.
/r/seduction04/08/25 11:16 PM
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Text all of your top 5 options at the same time. Give them each 1 hour to respond If the primary lady responds in the time window, she gets priority. If the primary lady doesn’t respond in the time window, go with the next highest ranking option.
/r/seduction04/08/25 10:52 PM
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I agree. Unfortunately, a significant number of men are kept in a sexual desert for so long that even this logic escapes them. So they don’t care or have empathy. When they have no one showing them romantic desire or interest it’s hard for them to feel sorry for someone else who is receiving desire from people they’re not attracted to at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:08 PM
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Tea app is nothing more than an extension of the already wide divide between men and women in modern dating. And it’s not much to worry about. For one, after the leak it was clear that most of the users were older, less attractive, and pretty much lower value women. Most high-value chicks don’t need that app to vet their potential partners. The guys they’re choosing from wouldn’t even be circulating amongst chicks that would put them on the tea app in the first place. Second, let’s say you as a …
/r/seduction26/07/25 08:31 PM
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What’s the height difference? And no, you shouldn’t be worried about that. As long as the date ends with the request to have another one, things are moving in the right direction.
/r/seduction06/05/25 01:19 PM
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I typically start with a light kiss if I was getting those signals. She gives me a hug, I’ll kiss her on the forehead. Or a hug goodbye, I’ll give her a kiss on the cheek. And then the energy she gives me will tell me if I can kiss or take it further.
/r/seduction06/05/25 12:02 AM
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Yea it can be purchased. And it can also be received for free. Newsflash, women also want to get their rocks off too. No emotions or feelings involved. We have a whole slut culture right now where women are being friends with benefits, one night stands, or fuck buddies en masse. If you can’t recognize those women. Or worse, you lack the game to pull them and you have to trick—that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:15 PM
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They’re not getting what I’m getting because what those guys are trying to pay for isn’t for sale. You can’t buy respect. You can’t purchase passion. The girl either has it for you or she doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:21 PM
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Usually women who are not trying to be the main chick will naturally position themselves to be side chicks for you.
/r/seduction04/05/25 02:47 AM
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Emphasis on the part she said before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:43 PM
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You’re being very anti-woman right now. This notion that women can’t make their own voluntary choices or have agency is 🚩.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:41 AM
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Just because I acknowledge the minority of sex workers who voluntarily choose the life doesn’t mean I automatically invalidate the negative factors of that industry you highlighted. Two things can be true at once. An occupation can be very hazardous and dangerous. And you can still have people voluntarily choose to do said occupation in spite of the risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:39 AM
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I’ve never received a negative response from one of my winks. But you’re right, Gen Y and Gen Z are different
/r/seduction02/05/25 11:14 PM
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I know there are men more charismatic than me that still pay for escorts. They don’t have social weaknesses that describe the 90% of men who do pay. And even for that elite group, the math still doesn’t make sense. What they’re paying for can be accessed for free. Once again, tricking is not about the women—it’s about the men and the caliber of person they’ve chosen to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:32 PM
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I promise you every guy that’s rich was not some incel dry dick nerd that wasn’t getting women before they have money. Please stop the cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:34 PM
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The kind of compliment doesn’t matter. What matters is this something you authentically liked about her. That’s the energy she’s looking for.
/r/seduction02/05/25 01:11 PM
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Understood. I’ll explain the nuance. Context: Friendships and romantic partnerships are two different types of social relationships. Yes similar qualities apply to both. But there are also key differences. Polarity - sexual attraction relies on polarity between men and women. It’s the difference in masculine and feminine that creates the tension and attraction between us in the first place. A man needs to recognize polarity first, and then know how to deepen it (flirting, teasing, physical touch…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:06 PM
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Beginner - If you made eye contact, you could have smiled or sent her a wink. Intermediate - after establishing eye contact, right before you left walk over and give a compliment then go on about your day. Advanced - approach, give a compliment, introduce yourself to her and her friend. Say your name, and ask if you could join them at their table. From there, lead the conversation.
/r/seduction02/05/25 11:59 AM
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Why? This assumes the only reason women are attracted to Elon is because of his wealth. Not his intelligence? Not his confidence? Not his vision? You know the qualities that led to him to becoming a billionaire in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:51 AM
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In your scenario, you have a man that’s good at making friends and creating rapport with others. Why can’t he take that same procedure towards a romantic goal? Turning strangers into friends is almost exactly the same process as turning strangers into romantic partners—give or take a few differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:47 AM
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…I’m happy to clarify that not 100% are involuntarily. That’s all I was trying to get across. Glad you acknowledged it. Have a good day ✅
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:54 AM
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I know that life isn’t black and white. However some things in the world are very complex, and other things are very simple. No, success with women does not make up a man’s overall worth. But it is a part of your worth. A man that does not properly handle his relations with women from a position of strength is someone folks don’t trust in a leadership position. If you want a real life example, look at what’s happening to Shannon Sharpe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:50 AM
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In what ways do I sound red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:44 AM
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I would say that he still lacks social skills. If you want to have sex with a woman, the feeling is supposed to be mutual. Paying for it is a clear sign she’s not into you. Making friends and acquaintances is only one part of socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:39 AM
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I’m glad I could help ✅
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:24 AM
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You’ve had the unfortunate experience of coming across some seriously unhinged guys. A guy who would spit on a woman for no reason needs to be punched in the fucking mouth. Unacceptable. And who would blast someone on their sc story? The paternity argument does make sense because it answers why virgins were ever esteemed in the first place. The fact they hadn’t reproduced or copulated with anyone before is what made them “pure” or “clean” This logic takes place in the back of men’s mind. Regardl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:01 AM
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A fucking idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:51 AM
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Sexual frustration is a part of manhood and growing as a man. You’re supposed to endure and overcome it. Not submit to it. And I am sympathetic towards tricks and johns. But I’m not going to cosign something that I don’t agree with. To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:40 AM
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First, men who are competent with women does not automatically make them womanizers. Don’t conflate the two. Womanizing is completely something else and perverse. Two, charisma is a skill. Charisma is a long way of saying charm. Everyone has charm. Some of us more than others. It takes skills to find your charm and then share it with others. Also, politics isn’t run on charism alone so that’s a flaw in your example. Your last point is the point I’ve been saying. You’re paying for escorts because…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:18 AM
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Yeah she doesn’t want you if you’re a trick. I’m not a trick. And my whole point and message is don’t be a trick to women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:49 PM
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I’m not hostile about them tricking. If they want to trick then go ahead and trick. My issue is when men project their tricking onto other men and say things like “why don’t all men just pay for escorts,” or “you pay for it one way or the other.” That fundamental worldview is what I have a problem with. If you want to trick, stay in your lane. Don’t try to merge into mines because we don’t drive the same car and we ain’t headed to the same destination. I’m on a different journey than you. And no…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:45 PM
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There are men with autism who still are able to have relationships with women. Elon Musk is a great example. And there are autistic women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:41 PM
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No. You’re using money to compensate for your social weaknesses instead of putting in the work to turn those weaknesses into strengths. That logic you’ve expressed is only justified if the man has resolved NOT to change or improve. Then yeah accept defeat and go ahead and pay for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:39 PM
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Well then I guess you’re saying you were raised in a family of whores. And if that’s the case, that explains a lot of the nonsense you’ve been saying. I suggest therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:21 PM
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She desires you for what? Again, what is it about you compared to Travis Kelce or any of her ex boyfriends that gives you an edge?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:20 PM
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Imagine saying what you said about your daughter, mother, grandmother, sister, or niece? “Yeah you all sold your bodies to a man.” You don’t see your pathology or perversion?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:19 PM
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Why should Taylor Swift want to be with a guy like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:18 PM
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I got it. First, you’re basing a lot of this off of interactions on social media, which is primarily thought and content driven by men who really don’t know what they’re talking about and lack game. Now I can address each of your reasons: —— 1. Female Virginity - that’s been prioritized in pretty much all cultures because of paternity certainty. We didn’t have paternity tests in the caveman days. And a man does not want to become a biological cuck where he spends his life raising another man’s c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:15 PM
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Why do you think a woman who is a virgin will eventually sell herself? In what ways do women sell themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:01 PM
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I can give you the formula now. Become peers with a man like Travis Kelce and then you can qualify for a woman like Taylor Swift. Until you do that work, focus on the women at your level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:00 PM
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No I haven’t. What do you think my original argument was?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:57 PM
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No they don’t. And what point is it that those men have to “earn” their money when they give it away freely to some hoe just because he wants to bust a nut? Especially, when said hoe will fuck another guy for free (mack), or give HIS money to another man (pimp). A fool and his money should have never been together in the first place. You keep missing the point: IT’S NOT ABOUT THE WOMEN. It’s about the caliber of man you’ve chosen to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:56 PM
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And that type of thinking is what leads to tricking: using money to compensate for your lack of social skills and paying for sexual gratification. These will be the same men PISSED OFF when they see that same girl fucking another guy who didn’t have to any of that shit to get access to her. It’s not the women. It’s who you’ve chosen to be as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:48 PM
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My point was if women have desire for menial things then they have desire—period. They are desirous by default. So if you can’t turn or direct a woman’s desirability to YOU when it’s available for a fucking shoe then that says more about what you lack than about her as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:45 PM
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Brother—she ain’t for sale. It doesn’t matter how much money you offer her. It could be $1B, she’s not going. That’s how a solid woman behaves. And for you to believe that every woman has or will sell herself if she’s not a virgin says a lot about your view of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:43 PM
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You don’t pay either way. Everything in life isn’t about money. There are women right now you can’t buy for sex. And they don’t need a relationship with a man for his financial resources because they’re not dependent in that way. Women have desire for menial things like clothes, shoes, jewelry. Their emotions are on tap 24/7 like tap water. A guy who can’t leverage that lacks social skills. And they lack social skills because they lack personal development and manhood. You have to build yourself…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:38 PM
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The second point is what goes over these guys’ heads every time. And it shows their real weakness—social skills. That’s why they have to pay for prostitutes and escorts. You lack the learned ability to leverage your personality for companionship and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:33 PM
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Hi, just to understand you better. May you give an example of ways in which women’s sexual experiences are seen as low value or disrespectful?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:30 PM
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I think you meant exceptions don’t disprove the rule. Happy to help and correct you. Obviously, we know that there is sex trafficking, abuse, poverty, and other conditions that cause/correlate a woman getting into sex work. My point was to argue your contention that ALL sex workers are there involuntarily. That’s not true. A significant percentage (probably more than you’d care to acknowledge) walked into that life because of their own choice. That’s my point. And to deny women can’t make a volu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:27 PM
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Yes I know. And it truly boggles me those guys think that. But then again, I’m aware of what the real issue is when we have these topics of discussion. Prostitution and sex work isn’t a man-woman thing. It’s a manhood thing. What tricks don’t understand is the reason they have to interact with women strictly on financial terms is because they’ve chosen to be a certain man. Not because this is what women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:22 PM
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You think two people who are mutually having casual sex with each other are not showing love and affection towards each other? Even if it’s only for a short-term moment? And since they didn’t end up in a long term relationship that they just discarded each other as psychopaths? Human beings were having sex with each other long before institutions, let alone concepts, such as marriage, God, and commitment even existed. You know that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:18 PM
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I’m not saying a prostitute does want a man for his body ma’am. I think you misread the comment thread. I’m defending the user who’s saying with casual sex there is desire from both parties. I agree and support that position. I’m against men paying for escorts/ prostitutes because sex is not commercial when a woman genuinely likes you and is passionate about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:15 PM
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You’re switching the goal post and argument. This is not about the difficulty of women getting casual sex. This is about Men. Men who choose to build themselves up so they qualify for women on meritorious terms. And men who give their hard earned resources away to a woman who will take their money and then go have sex with a guy for free and doesn’t have to do any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:13 PM
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Here’s one example from a mega-pornstar Angela White. She stated she wanted to do porn of her own volition. And she’s a college graduate. Nobody forced her. She had other options and made a voluntary choice. Source I can find more, but if you’re aware of what’s really going on in the world and not your own moral echo chamber you’d know that this isn’t uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:10 PM
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Just because two people want each other for their bodies doesn’t make it inhumane. Especially when it’s mutual. What do you think sex is supposed to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:04 PM
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There are many examples of young women today that voluntarily walk into sex work the moment they turn in 18. They come from financially stable families. No trauma or abuse during their upbringing. And they got accepted into college. Sometimes women make a logical and voluntary decision to be sex workers. It’s not always involuntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:02 PM
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Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:01 PM
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Because any guy with $20-100 can buy a girl for 15 minutes of her time. There’s no merit to that. Influencing a woman to be sexual with you because of your intrinsic qualities over all the other men that want her takes skills, intelligence, and charisma. That requires merit. That’s why it’s more valuable and respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:00 PM
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Definitions of The Game Trick - a man who uses money or financial favors and rewards to purchase sexual gratification from women. He pretty much uses money to compensate for his lack of game (skill) with women. Mack - a man who uses his verbal skills and intelligence to gain either sexual, emotional, or financial gratification from women. Pimp - a man who receives financial gratification from whores (hoes) in exchange for knowledge, leadership, and protection. Otherwise known as Positively Inspi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:57 PM
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You don’t go from being disrespected to respected. You make it clear you don’t tolerate or accept disrespect—period. From there, if people still wish to disrespect you, you either check them or don’t associate with them. In the case of women, the moment she disrespects you have to check her the FIRST time. And I mean set a hard boundary you don’t accept that from her. If she doesn’t get it, then you don’t associate with her ever again.
/r/seduction01/05/25 09:50 PM
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Timeout, I’m not a male feminist, dude 😑. Where tf do you get at even accusing me of something like that in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:47 PM
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Certain cultures have different attitudes towards casual sex. I’ve never been to Portugal so I can’t give you my first hand analysis. But the last part refers to women and female nature as a whole. Women like sex. As a matter of fact, they like it more than we do as men. And sometimes, women just want to fuck and do nothing else for whatever their reasons. In practice, this can look like a woman who has had a really bad day at work, and just wants to “relax”. Or a girl has just broken up with he…
/r/seduction01/05/25 09:46 PM
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Using escorts in and of itself isn’t bad. It’s when these guys reveal their reasons for doing so and their broader worldview that draws contention and criticism. To each their own. But you can’t put commercial sex with an escort/prostitute in the same league as a girl who sleeps with you in a one night stand or romantic tryst. One is based on commerce, the other is based on passion. When women genuinely like you, you don’t have to pay for their company (trick). Women will naturally gravitate tow…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:40 PM
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Try to learn basic Portuguese greetings as a way in. I was in Brazil a couple months ago. Just go on Pinterest and search Portuguese sayings and remember those. Besides that, it’s all about the body language. Be cool, relaxed. The girls will come up to you if you give off the right energy. Your best targets will be other foreigners like you. Or Portuguese natives who just want a one night stand they can forget about.
/r/seduction01/05/25 10:55 AM
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I mean if someone approached me like that, I wouldn’t be offended. But I would wonder what they wanted. And that’s the whole point. OP wants something form those women. He’s just afraid to say “hey, I’d like your number?” Or “hey, I’d like to take you out,” after introducing himself and giving a compliment. To each their own.
/r/seduction29/04/25 11:21 PM
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I need you to do the math on these outcomes. Having sex with this girl = +100 Living with Herpes for the rest of your life = -1,000,000 —— Based on that, what do you think you should pick?
/r/seduction29/04/25 09:58 PM
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After you compliment them, introduce yourself and then ask for their name. Say “nice to meet you,” and then have something you want to talk about with them. It could be about their day, their plans for the night, or the weekend. ——— When a person is interested, they don’t care what you say. They just want you to keep talking to them. You’ll figure out how you want your convos to flow after more reps. For now, it’s good that you’re breaking the ice. Keep it up.
/r/seduction29/04/25 07:21 PM
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Lol 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:32 AM
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You definitely made her day though. Who knows when the last time a guy came up and hit on her.
/r/seduction29/04/25 03:08 AM
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Look I’m a guy, and I’m honestly not into threesomes of any kind period for real. If I’m in a relationship, I just want it to be my partner and I in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:00 AM
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Old school way would have been to time when she gets off work and make a move from there. Or get some intel on places she likes to frequent for a hobby. New school way would be to try to get her Instagram or something and shoot your shot there.
/r/seduction24/04/25 10:55 PM
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If all you’re going to do is react like an emotional whiny little boy when people try to help you with then your fate is sealed. Women see this character flaw, man. I’m trying to tell you that you’re not the guy you think you are or tell yourself to be. You have gaps. Close them. Take care.
/r/seduction24/04/25 08:27 PM
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I’m genuinely trying to help you. That was a feminine and emotionally charged response you gave. Which is a part of your problem. The world is not going to change for you. Nor should it. Your issue isn’t that you’re TOO emotionally sweet or available. Women like that. What they don’t like is if that’s ALL you are. No edge, no aggression, no danger to you. You’re imbalanced. Best of luck to you, sir.
/r/seduction24/04/25 08:22 PM
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Tough experience. But you’ll heal bro. Also sounds like you need to get some edge to you. It’s a red flag if women assume you’re gay when you’re a straight male. You might be too sweet and soft.
/r/seduction24/04/25 08:00 PM
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Real spiel 💯
/r/seduction24/04/25 12:37 PM
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Just go for the casual hookup. And here’s why: One, she already knows if you’re the kind of guy she would date or not. 2 years is enough time to make that decision. Two, again she’s very vulnerable. Women really aren’t trying to jump back into something so serious after leaving a relationship.
/r/seduction24/04/25 05:45 AM
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Your best bet then is to give it time. Truthfully, you should be looking to fuck first in a situation like this. Breakups leave women emotionally raw and vulnerable. And if she was in a relationship for a long time then she’s definitely going to want some time to herself to be free and have nothing serious. How old are you two?
/r/seduction24/04/25 05:34 AM
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What’s your agenda? Are you looking to just fuck her or do you want an actual relationship?
/r/seduction24/04/25 04:46 AM
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You’re right; I should’ve clarified earlier. When you mentioned “almost all men,” I was drawing a distinction. Women do find most men unattractive. However, the flip-side is that many men also either ignore or fail to notice the small percentage of women who do find them attractive, and that’s a key issue. As a man you should be improving yourself regardless if women are approaching you or not. Furthermore, you still need social skills to be competent with women approaching you in the first plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:00 PM
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Your belief that women find most men unattractive shows your view on dating. And it’s not true. Successful approaches are all about how you interact with women and carrying yourself with confidence. Women express attraction differently than men. Just because it’s not how you expect or want doesn’t mean women are not interested. Learn their signals and step up your game. Even if more women approach to make up for men’s lack of gallantry, you still won’t get noticed unless you’ve got your shit tog…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:05 PM
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Your belief that women find most men unattractive shows your view on dating. And it’s not true. Successful approaches are all about how you interact with women and carrying yourself with confidence. Women express attraction differently than men. Just because it’s not how you expect or want doesn’t mean women are not interested. Learn their signals and step up your game. Even if more women approach to make up for men’s lack of gallantry, you still won’t get noticed unless you’ve got your shit tog…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:04 PM
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Women don’t like being approached by men they’re not attracted to. Not that they don’t like to be approached in general. Women do approach men. They’re just not as direct as men. Instead women use indirect or soft means to communicate to men they’re attracted to them or are interested in them. We have a decay in leadership skills amongst men. As a result, women will have to be more direct with their approaches to compensate for the lacks of boldness and social skills too many men have. Men still…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:29 PM
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The men I've observed doing this have very deep insecurities within themselves. Porn consumption is also a factor here as well. Look we all know size does matter. But those guys ignore so many other qualities that are MORE important than just size when it comes to sex. Are some women size queens? Yes. Are all women size queens? NO. If you and a woman are not sexually compatible, just charge it to the game and keep it moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:09 PM
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Yes it is an equal exchange. Dick and pussy are equal. No dick is actually greater than pussy because a woman can get her entire life taken care of with the right man. Casual sex can work just fine for you when you're a man on top of his game.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:51 AM
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No you don't. I've had women like me and we went back to my hotel room same night. No date required. Regardless of what a man's reasons are for paying for it, the point is sex is free. Pussy is free. Mutual Attraction is what the game is all about. When women like you they come to you. If you're a man coming out of pocket, you're just dealing with women who don't like you. To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:49 AM
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Please read my response again. I explained how and why prostitutes do not count in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:53 PM
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Ma'am I can also do my dishes myself. Casual sex is not the same as professional services. Because once again, women have sex with men WITHOUT COST when they're passionate about you. Are you really not going to acknowledge that there are women who mutually seek hookups, flings, one night stands, or any of that? That there aren't women who also want to be friends with benefits. Also, casual sex is the entire EPITOME of wanting someone. You're right--I don't know them that well. But I still want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:25 PM
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Why wouldn't you discuss something like that? Especially if he has no problem sharing his own past. A prostitute does not count because she is a commercialized commodity. She is not in the same category as regular civilian women who are not selling their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:18 PM
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I didn't say that having sex was a relationship ma'am. And furthermore, no she didn't give those guys what they wanted. Because I'm many of those men who go to brothels wanted to have sex with those women without paying for it. They simply can't because the women don't find them mutually attractive enough to hookup with them. So as a result they charge them a fee to compensate for it. Thats what happening. In a true one night stand or casual arrangement, there is no exchange of money to either p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:41 PM
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‼ Preach sister, preach! Many of these guys have no social life, and then wonder why their romantic life is just as dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:37 PM
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By definition if beauty is subjective then its impossible for all women to find a man ugly. Do you understand what you're saying? You just contradicted yourself. Furthermore, where is it that it's been confirmed that the reason women are rejecting a guy is because he's ugly? You do realize there are a number of reasons why a girl may reject you when you approach her and it has nothing to do with your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:56 PM
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So yes, Gen Z are having less of a hookup culture than what was characteristic of the 80s and 90s. But it's still way more sexual activity than pre-Sexual Revolution era of the 1900s-1950s. Women are still having casual sex here and there. And are open to relationships with men. It's not that hard. The bigger issue is the decline of masculinity amongst today's men. Hence the increase in commercial sex because too many males lack the fundamental essence that attracts women to you in the first pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:51 PM
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It's a form of submission because you're giving your resources to her while she's not giving any of hers to you. So when it balances out, you as a man lose. You gave your body, she gave yours. You gave her money, she gave you nothing. Woman 2. Man 1. This is my logic. Relationships are supposed to be mutually reciprocal and balanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:47 PM
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Jesus man. I see why some of you guys go DECADES without feminine touch based on the way you think. Yall have no personality, charisma, or confidence. And you have a very warped view of social dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:05 PM
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That's a projection sir. If you can tap into a woman's emotions, she will develop feelings for you (game). Even if you are not characteristic of her general physical type.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:01 PM
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Which part of what I said is ridiculous? Why wouldn't you want to know if a guy you're dating has visited a brothel but at the same time your ok with regulated prostitution? That seems contradictory and speaks to OP's point. I don't have an issue with regulated prostitution either. My point still stands that men only resort to commercial sex when they are not able to access casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:54 PM
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First, how old are you may I ask? Because that will help me understand your reference point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:51 PM
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Ma'am I wasn't answering the question of why women are disgusted by patrons of sex workers. I was answering why men who pay for it are stigmatized.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:39 PM
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Game is and always will be what defines male-female interaction. You either understand that or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:29 PM
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If that's the experience a guy is having then I would advise him to change the city he's living in before paying for it. Just because you're not accepted in one area doesn't mean thats the case for all areas. Also, beauty is subjective. So how would a guy know for a fact he's rejected by women because he's "ugly" as opposed to some other personal quality of his.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:27 PM
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I'm an average guy myself and I've slept with multiple women no strings attached. I'm 5'8 170lbs and I'm not rich. Trust me you do not have to be some elite tier of man to get an average woman of today. They're all going. If a man wants to trick, that's his call. I don't agree with it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:26 PM
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Definitely is more to it. But it all comes down to game. Having game (social skills) is what allows a man to overcome whatever physical, financial, or social shortcomings he may have with women. I've seen guys who are short, fat, broke, or ugly still pull em. Your confidence just has to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:06 PM
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No it doesn't. In this hookup culture era, women are being indiscriminate with who they sleep with. A man who isn't getting any of the action simply lacks game/social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:01 PM
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The reason going to brothels and tricking in general is stigmatized is because when a woman likes you, and is passionate about you she will have sex with you without cost. In other words, sex is free when the attraction is mutual. Having to pay for it is a form of submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:54 PM
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Very correct observation. It's one of the holes in red pill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:05 AM
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The last part is all that it is. It's not really lack of caring. You're just not stimulated by superficial bullshit. And you can't fake it. Doesnt mean you have to be an asshole or psychopath. It just means you're searching for something deeper. In the meantime, learn how to pretend and interact with the NPCs better.
/r/seduction16/04/25 07:26 PM
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Start small and build up. I usually try to have some warm up, quick chat interactions that help calm me down a bit. From there, mentally you just have to not give a fuck. It’s really that simple.
/r/seduction08/04/25 06:06 PM
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Hot chicks are always crazy haha.
/r/seduction20/10/24 12:02 AM
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Personally, I would fall back due to my own personal experiences with women who have mental health issues. Sex just isn’t worth dealing with the potential emotional burden that comes with a person who has that on their plate. Also seems like this girl is trying to protect herself from falling back into old patterns. But if you want a general rule of thumb, you could maybe follow up again with her after 30-60 days to see where she’s at in life and if you can pick up where you left off.
/r/seduction19/10/24 11:56 PM
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