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seemed to me like this comic was a reflection on its author's lack of understanding of post-modernism, feminist theory, and most of all, privilege. even some of the most outspoken and vilified feminists don't consider privilege to be something that invalidates your opinions or thoughts. source.
/r/MensRights31/03/12 12:54 AM
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Bullshit. The number of women who refuse abortions because of the social consequences and costs are far fewer than the number of women who refuse abortions to gain paychecks (way in excess of the abortion costs, with no social discouragement, mind you). i'd like to see any sort of factual basis for this claim, especially when recent studies have shown that increased funding for abortions increase the likelihood that a woman will choose that option. without any data supporting your claim, i find …
/r/MensRights19/03/12 06:39 AM
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How the fuck is allowing or denying you abortion going to help men get the choice to consent to sex but NOT fatherhood? since when did i say that easy access to abortions would do that? i said that easy access to abortion would be mutually beneficial. i never claimed that it would magically solve, or even being to solve, all of men's issues pertaining to fatherhood. having an abortion obviously isn't the first line of defense against pregnancy. i support equal access to contraception and equalit…
/r/MensRights19/03/12 06:33 AM
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it was an honest question to seek the opinions of those who, ideologically, are supposed to be very different from me. i don't think having all of you answer my questions and me try to keep up really counts as "baiting."
/r/MensRights18/03/12 08:08 PM
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a better name would be STD prevention 'r' us or contraceptives 'r' us, if we're going by raw data. but you don't seem to want to use all the data i've linked to. In 2009, the average amount paid for a nonhospital abortion with local anesthesia at 10 weeks’ gestation was $451. did you not read that far? as a mathematician who has done little else but quote you and cite data to contradict your statements, i find it almost pathetic that you've resorted to saying that i can't think "rationally." and…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 09:19 AM
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i'm an idiot? great counterargument. my issue isn't against men. my issue is against the moronic GOP lawmakers in washington. the reason i said if men had to give birth, i doubt this would even be an issue. and then referenced the lawmakers is because they're incapable of empathy. if they had to give birth, then maybe they'd understand why they shouldn't try to curb women's reproductive rights. their lack of understanding isn't because they have a penis, it's because they are cruel people who ca…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 09:07 AM
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You argue it is not "abortions 'r' us" because abortions only represent a small amount of services performed. My contention is this is not the case and the statistics presented are hopelessly misleading to the point of lying. your contention is wrong. "small amount" must mean numerically, which is obviously not the case, or monetarily, which is also not the case. wrong. even if the $500 figure was half of the true average, which is actually less than $500 but let's entertain the idea, abortions …
/r/MensRights18/03/12 08:58 AM
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the gynocentricity of this issue is precisely what i've been trying to challenge! did you read the title of my post? the entire objective of my posting here was to try to redefine this issue as a human issue, not a women's issue.
/r/MensRights18/03/12 08:35 AM
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And i don't think YOU can fully understand the thought of being forced into fatherhood and having 18-21 years of your life being curtailed and controlled by someone elses choice. actually, i do. if my right to have an abortion were taken away, or curtailed to the point where i personally couldn't have one, that is exactly what would happen to me, except i'd also be forced to carry and birth the child. and to add insult to injury, the choice wouldn't be mine or the father of the fetus. it would b…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 08:32 AM
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So unless you think the GOP is going to ban condoms that's just not true. actually, the GOP in wisconsin just passed a law that requires public schools to teach abstinence as the only method to prevent STDs and pregnancy. i think utah is in the process of passing or has already passed a similar law. so actually, yes, i do think they are trying to ban condoms. they just can't do it directly yet. your other points seem to ignore the fact that the majority of women don't get pregnant with random pe…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 08:27 AM
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if you took the time to google it, which you clearly didn't, you could have easily found out the following facts: 11% of planned parenthood clients receive abortion services 3% of health services performed at planned parenthood are abortions 15% of planned parenthood's annual revenue comes from abortions no matter what way you try to twist it, abortion is clearly not even close to being a majority of that planned parenthood does. not financially, not by client, not by appointment. I think a much…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 08:18 AM
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my mistake. it's not a transvaginal ultrasound that is required, merely a normal ultrasound followed by the same consultation where the woman is forced to look at a picture of the soon-to-be-aborted fetus. the emotionally disturbing aspect is still there. the texas law passed a while ago, and is already in effect. there are already very sad accounts of women forced to undergo the procedure. the one i linked to is particularly depressing, i recommend reading it if only to gain some perspective on…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 08:09 AM
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But not a man's right to choose, I see... you are taking what i say and twisting it to make it seem like i'm a misandrist. you seem angry at me personally when all i've done in this thread is try to foster mutual understanding and learn more about the MRA perspective of what has been traditionally seen as a women's/feminist issue.
/r/MensRights18/03/12 08:04 AM
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men would still have no reproductive rights even if the social stigma regarding abortion for women disappeared. i agree that men do not really have direct reproductive rights or equal options for contraception. but IMO, increased access to abortion would constitute an indirect reproductive right for men. if there were no barriers to getting an abortion, women would have no reason (other than her own beliefs, which should constitute as her sole responsibility) to carry a child to term knowing tha…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 04:45 AM
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prior to 1950, most states required proof of abuse or cruelty before granting divorce. i'm trying to keep up with all of these replies, but this is one non-internet source that clarifies historic divorce laws: Friedman, Lawrence M. (2002). American Law in the Twentieth Century. i know that's not helpful, but i couldn't find a reliable online (ie. non blog or random article) source that cited historic divorce laws.
/r/MensRights18/03/12 04:38 AM
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really? have you not been watching the news? kansas just passed a law that bans abortions from being performed on state-owned property and bans any tax write off from the costs of the procedure. this means that the KU hospital can no longer provide abortions or even have medical students undergo abortion services training. it also makes abortions more expensive for women, which has been proven to cause women not to have abortions. virginia and texas require women to undergo a transvaginal ultras…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 04:26 AM
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you've literally ignored every single other point i made because you, personally, are clearly against abortion and planned parenthood in general. that's fine, it's your opinion. i know what fungible means, thank you. do you understand what "practically the entire cost of the abortion is covered by the patient" means? i'll tell you how much an abortion costs. in california, a medical abortion (the pill) is about $500. a surgical abortion, depending on how far along in the pregnancy you are, runs …
/r/MensRights18/03/12 04:05 AM
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if men had to give birth, i doubt this would even be an issue. most of the people spearheading the new GOP laws against abortion are men. and by "most" i mean all of them that i can think of. but that's a non-issue because the genders aren't switched, it was just a thought exercise i included.
/r/MensRights18/03/12 03:49 AM
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one thing i will tell you guys is that feminists won't get behind family court issues because you're making it about the men. it's not that feminists hate men (i love men!), it's that feminists necessarily believe that men have male privilege. i don't want to argue that point, but let me explain why this is an issue. no feminist or feminist-minded person will ever believe that men are disadvantaged, even if it's blatantly true in the case of family courts. in order to make a believable case to t…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 03:46 AM
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abortions are a small fraction of what planned parenthood does, and abortions are 100% funded by the patient and voluntary donations. it's actually required by law that no public funds go to abortions. the vast majority of what planned parenthood does is women's health-related. breast exams, PAP smears, gynecological exams, pregnancy tests, STD screening, etc. they also do STD screening for men! so no, it's really not abortion 'r' us. at least not any more than costco is a shoe store.
/r/MensRights18/03/12 03:39 AM
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thank you! and honestly, that was all i was trying to do. i know feminists and MRAs haven't really seen eye-to-eye on a lot of issues, but i feel like a mutual understanding of how the issues each group cares about affects the other would foster nothing but good things. i would love to see MRAs and feminists come together to fight for a woman's right to choose and subsequent equity in family courts, even if we're motivated by completely different reasons. in the end, we're all people and injusti…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 03:24 AM
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It might help, but it's still not OUR choice, we are still depending on the whims of another. true, but realistically, could that ever change? carrying a child for 9 months in your uterus is a pretty hefty task, and if the genders were switched, i doubt any man would relinquish the right to make decisions that personal to anyone but themselves. How convenient for women to have no 'responsibilities' to a child if she decides she doesn't want it. i certainly never meant to imply that, and i don't …
/r/MensRights18/03/12 03:20 AM
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the only reason i brought up the history of pregnancy and childcare was because of this comment, which seemed to imply otherwise: Do you want to know why reproduction and childcare are regarded as women's issues? Because of women's attitudes. It is women that divorce loving fathers, claw tooth and nail to get sole custody, and use their children as a weapon against their spouses. It is women that consume television shows, movies, and advertising that depicts men as clueless losers in the parenti…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 02:40 AM
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no i think i understand. i never once tried to say that men have equal reproductive rights. literally the only point i was trying to raise was that the right to have an abortion affects men, thus it is (indirectly) a reproductive right. i'm not going to argue the other points, because i don't think there's much to be said. one thing i will bring up is that the occurrence of this case A man who creates a fetus but doesn't want a child will be forced to pay if the woman chooses, even if both parti…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 02:22 AM
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Under Obamacare, women receive preventive health services at no additional cost, including contraception and STD services. The same services are not required for men. i was completely unaware of that, and i don't support that (men not being treated equally, that is) at all. i'm very pro-choice and pro-access to contraception, but i'm also pro-men having equal access to their own contraceptive methods as they see fit. ideally, i'd like to see men's contraceptive options being offered by planned p…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 12:54 AM
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did you not read the rest of my comment? i agree that men lack the same contraceptive methods as women, which i think is wrong and should be a priority for pharmacologists (a la the male birth control pill), but taking away abortion rights affects women just as much as it does men. for every woman who carries an unwanted child to term, there is a man that is going to be severely affected by that child's life. probably negatively financially affected. i'm not trying to argue that men have it bett…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 12:48 AM
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first off, pregnancy and child care have been regarded as women's issues before feminism existed. midwives, who were always women, were the only medical professionals who ever dealt with childbirth, and women were always entrusted with childcare. modern society just inherited those roles. i highly doubt that custody battles have influenced this perception at all. to be clear, i'm not arguing that custody issues don't exist, i'm just saying that they probably aren't the origin of the categorizati…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 12:32 AM
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And the German noun for young girl is neuter. The "gender" of a word has nothing to do with the word's meaning. I understand your argument, but equating terms that actually describe an inherent "genderedness" of a noun (like a gendered insult) is completely different from the linguistic or grammatical gender of the noun.
/r/MensRights05/03/12 09:27 AM
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so then veteran homelessness is completely proportionate.
/r/MensRights25/10/11 01:34 AM
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i think the critical thing to remember about this petition is that, well, it's a petition. there's no guarantee that the FBI will do anything in response. and if they decide to, i find it highly unlikely that a top-level federal government organization would make any change other than gender neutralizing the definition. any broadening of the definition is radical and stupid, and i just can't see the FBI falling for that.
/r/MensRights24/07/11 06:33 PM
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how on earth did you come to the conclusion that the term always and explicitly excludes oral and anal rape? from what i've gathered from discussion on this topic, the FBI's definition comes from the UCR, which was adopted in 1929-1930. at that time, the term "carnal knowledge" explicitly meant vaginal intercourse, or whatever you want to call it. this standard is still in use today, as nonconsensual oral sex, sodomy, etc are included in part II offenses, while forcible rape is a part I offense.…
/r/MensRights24/07/11 08:47 AM
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i'd like to answer your questions more clearly, but to be honest, that's the extent of the information available. i'm with you completely. extending the definition to include men, trans people, etc = good. broadening the scope of rape to include every time i have sex with my boyfriend... not so much. knowing the FBI and the government in general, i would think that if they do decide the redefine rape, which isn't by any means certain, they would only adopt the change from "female" to "person." i…
/r/MensRights24/07/11 08:30 AM
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i can see how the following excerpt of the petition letter (what actually gets sent once enough signatures are gathered) would lead to that ridiculousness Moreover, this definition is often used by law enforcement to exclude rapes of women whose ability to give consent has been diminished by drugs or alcohol. but other than that, the rest of the petition letter looks pretty benign. the last thing i'd want is for the FBI to actually put into law anything that would make any heterosexual sex encou…
/r/MensRights24/07/11 07:28 AM
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well this is just a petition to get the current definition changed. the following letter is the exact wording of the petition, which would be then sent to the FBI. Change the "forcible" rape definition Greetings, I was shocked to learn that the FBI uses an archaic definition of rape (“The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will”) to gather statistics for the Uniform Crime Report. This definition, drafted more than 80 years ago, is problematic for many reasons, chief among them…
/r/MensRights24/07/11 05:00 AM
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i'm not really going to argue with you, since i do agree with you for the most part. i'm a woman, and i'm a feminist in that i stand for equal rights for men and women. i'm incredibly concerned with the way radical "feminists" are trying to push the "rape culture" and "classification of rape" issues. i have a boyfriend and i love him to death, and if we have drunk sex, that's not rape. that's just us having drunk sex. at the same time, i really do believe that this reclassification would be a st…
/r/MensRights24/07/11 04:02 AM
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add it in the comments! the petition (i think) was written by a fairly progressive women's rights group, so if popular opinion shows that we care about the rape of men in prison, it will be amended. note: progressive in this sense means they actually acknowledged that rape happens to people other than women. i'm not claiming anything else about the authors.
/r/MensRights24/07/11 03:08 AM
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sounds like you've been hanging around the wrong group of feminists. most of the feminists i know are striving for actual equality. but this is the internet, so feel free to ignore me.
/r/MensRights23/07/11 11:11 PM
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...that's not the point of this petition. the point is that the FBI's current definition of rape doesn't inclue anyone but women who are "forcibly" raped. that doesn't include men (in prison or not), anyone who is raped in an orifice other than their vagina (pretty much leaves men out of the picture), and people who are raped in a non-forcible way, ie. someone who is in a coma (think kill bill), unconscious, disabled, etc. What they're really trying to do here is call sex she regrets the next da…
/r/MensRights23/07/11 11:06 PM
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there's actually a petition going around to redefine rape to include men, boys, transgendered people, etc. you can access it here. feel free to spread it around! the more support we can get for this, the better!
/r/MensRights23/07/11 08:54 PM
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In California, both men and women are eligible for "paid family leave." One of my (male) professors took time off teaching last year after his wife had their third child. I know there are other states that have this program as well, but I just linked to CA's since it's the one I'm most familiar with.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 06:04 AM
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TBH It would be hard to find one one if I tried. I read an article in some girly magazine about a female high school teacher being falsely accused of sexual misconduct by one of her male students, but it never went to court. But that's not to say that a case that would end up in court couldn't arise. Trying to make false rape accusations a purely female phenomenon is the same as trying to make being a rapist a purely male phenomenon. We all know that men and women are both subjected to sexual as…
/r/MensRights04/05/11 10:30 PM
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I think one huge piece that we're all overlooking is the fact that people, both men and women, commit (and unfortunately, succeed in some cases) false accusations of rape because of how prevalent rape and sexual assault are in society. It's not exactly uncommon for someone to be a victim of sexual assault, so the necessary precautions aren't made to ensure the honesty of the accuser. Most of the time this is done in the best interests of the VAST majority of people who are rightfully accusing so…
/r/MensRights04/05/11 08:32 PM
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