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Porn makes men less interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:20 AM
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britney lost her freedom for 15 years for less than what kanye has done.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:14 AM
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are you blaming women for men's actions? why do men not want other men to take accountability for their actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:13 AM
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kim is also extremely wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:13 AM
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nowhere near the impact it has on a womans. men dont have to take any time off of work at all. average child support is $425 compared to what it costs to actually raise the kid, for instance, average daycare is $612/week.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:07 AM
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no it doesnt. men can have a kid and it probably increases your pay. you dont have to take any time off work at all. average child support in america is $425 a month. compare that to what it actually costs to raise a kid please. daycare alone is three times that. > I’m a man and would ruin my career for my kids 110% of the time absolutely no one is stopping you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:05 AM
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less than 10% of divorces end w alimony thats for either gender
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:38 PM
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Ye having a public meltdown is "fighting for his kids". He's still allowed to see them, he's taking them to the superbowl. If Kim was doing this police would have come and taken them away from her by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:37 PM
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young handsome men can create a company called "only fans" and become rich from pimping young women. the men never have to be vulnerable and exploit themselves, they can exploit women instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 10:21 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:37 PM
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So if you do something for yourself you can never flirt with men? If an Olympian flirts with a man, do you think she became an Olympian for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:29 PM
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But… it’s not for you. Idk When guys have shoe collections… that’s what they are into? Not for me and if it bothers me I wouldn’t date that person but men make such a habit out of shitting on this stuff and putting women down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:23 PM
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Men are so disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:22 PM
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Yes socializing is an important part of human life? Did you mean to ask me what my hobbies are?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:08 PM
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Men usually say it in a really mean way. It’s def wrong to be a dick regardless of gender. But we need to compare tact with tact and being an asshole with being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:27 PM
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See I don’t wear makeup ever and even I find it weird to have an opinion like this. If you want someone who doesn’t wear makeup date someone like that. But it’s weird to imagine all of womankind changing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:05 PM
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You didn’t say that you said pro skinny which is obviously very different
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 07:24 AM
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Lol good fucking luck with your miserable life if you marry a dude who identifies as “pro skinny”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 07:11 AM
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Right but what’s the difference in what that gets her from men? Everyone gets male thirst.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:50 AM
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Most internet trolls are men, so that’s another example.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:13 AM
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Yeah, I think up until the celibacy trend of the pandemic pretty much 100% of straight women want to get married and the incels are wrong about women only liking weird chad looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:07 AM
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What are men’s obvious advantages
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:49 AM
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Bro I’m fat and live in the Midwest and so many people want to date me. That means nothing. How many people put in daily effort to nurture and support her? That is the actually rare thing, not male thirst.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:46 AM
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What is the white pill
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:45 AM
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Would we? Men mistreat, rape, abuse, and ghost thin women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:42 AM
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But if you barely know her, why are you asking her out? Men treat it like a numbers game which is why it’s not worth women’s time to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re a good guy and actually interested in us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:38 AM
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Nope. 🤷‍♀️ I don’t care to spend my money going to dinner w random men. I barely care to do that if he’s treating me. If it’s a man I have a relationship w and respect, sure. I’ll spend my free time w him and pay for myself. I know a few men through friendship/business/general interest that I would have dinner w and pay my way and enjoy myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:30 AM
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So you don’t want to understand the culture of the world you live in but you do want to put down people who were born with an illness? I’m having a hard time understanding what you’re supposed to be like… clinging to idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:52 AM
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Which part of understanding cultural touchstones of western society is cringe?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:42 AM
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You’ll want this for basic life convo: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Pavlov
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:18 AM
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“Women claim they want sincere effort but” If men “say the wrong thing” then they aren’t rewarded with sex. You are framing it as women are being insincere because we don’t use sex as a Pavlovian response whenever men do something we like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:11 AM
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How is that retarded? Is this not the literal purpose of telling lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:56 AM
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Yes if men “say the wrong thing” by not lying to cover up their terrible personality women won’t like this. Why do men keep repeating this as if it is a gotcha on women and not a horrifying realization that men don’t gaf about consent and regularly say whatever they think will give them access to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:56 AM
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Is this not a win for everyone but foreign women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 10:40 PM
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According to men who fill their time with sports, porn and gaming. Why would I listen to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 10:12 PM
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That’s just about budget
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:42 AM
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Term of endearment + not attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:22 AM
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Yeah I mean buying stuff doesn’t tell me anything
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 10:13 AM
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Communicate your thoughts about sex and women openly with no filter
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:05 AM
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“Why don’t you simply abuse women?”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:01 AM
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Is he really? Or is he like the guy I dated for two years who was “into photography” which translated into… never saw him read a photography book or learn to develop photos or do anything other than own an expensive camera.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:37 AM
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Male jokes never make any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:05 AM
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Only hot if he has pursuits, not hot if he’s like a sad drunk
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:05 AM
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Oh my god. You have no idea the shit you have saved yourself from. Everyday of my life i feel like there is a semi inflated black beach ball of pain living inside my chest from these men and I have been no contact and in therapy for years and years. I am actually doing really well 😂 and it’s STILL there. So good on your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:58 AM
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Pasta is actually my least fav.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:54 AM
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Ew not one part of what you said has any appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:46 AM
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Specifically dinner and I do love to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:46 AM
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Yup wish my mom told me this growing up!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:45 AM
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Yes and no. What does he do with his time? Does he do something that takes passion and discipline and intelligence with his time? I def need that for pussy reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:40 AM
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If your man is unemployed why are you giving advice about what’s low value?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:21 AM
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As a woman, I agree. I would not buy a man was attracted to me if he didn’t ask me to dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:20 AM
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Oh so just like Star Wars guys but anime.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:56 AM
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Is this a romance scam? You didn’t explain what it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:51 AM
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Yeah from the outside it looks the same. If a relationship doesn’t work out, what can you do? I was raised practically in a cult and was a virgin until 24, wanted nothing more than to be a wife and have a family and did literally everything you are supposed to do to get a husband. Now I am a high n count misandrist dog lady career woman. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:20 AM
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I think the vast majority of “casual daters” are women who are looking for forever love in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 04:51 AM
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I agree not always. Gold diggers exist. Women who genuinely want to sleep around exist. But generally men and women are socialized and end up in these two non compatible categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 04:13 AM
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what cash and prizes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:56 AM
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screens, their imagination, grass is greener
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:56 AM
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straight men don't enjoy the company or appearance of women much. they wish women would look and act drastically differently than we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:42 AM
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normal men absolutely hang out here. its a drunk words/sober thoughts thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:53 AM
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my response as well
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:52 AM
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men respect women??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:52 AM
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I think that’s dehumanizing and interferes with the intimate connection that makes sex good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:27 PM
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Why would I want to be disgusted by my partners body or be with someone who is disgusted by my body? What’s the incentive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:01 PM
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I don’t think exciting makes me want to have sex. I’d have to feel pretty safe in order to be vulnerable enough to have sex and relax enough to cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:00 PM
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He makes me cum. Rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:50 PM
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Men and women are socialized differently. Men are locusts. Accumulating “masculinity” by extracting sex through any means necessary. Women date men for love and companionship. They hope to marry and have a loving family.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:49 PM
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Yes. Lol. Yes. Straight men are barely even attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:48 PM
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Can’t imagine not wanting to see and explore and love my partners body. Doesn’t compute. Seems dark af.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:40 PM
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I’m sure women do that. I just said I find it wrong. I’m also sure women don’t find their husbands attractive for many reasons like compulsive heterosexuality, the lack of men giving women orgasms, the lack of men having intimate relationships that turn women on, the abundance of hormonal birth control and porn, the abundance of sexual abuse and trauma, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:39 PM
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You’re describing lying and manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:37 PM
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i'm not debating you. i'm disagreeing with you. we don't need to keep talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:25 PM
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Hahahahaha So you have no understanding of human nature
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:15 PM
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You haven’t described mutual benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:06 PM
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And? Maybe they should go outside or read a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:04 PM
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Who owns, publishes, profits, and edits these magazines?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:03 PM
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Sounds like you aren’t attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:02 PM
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Yikes. That’s so dark.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:01 PM
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The way your brain compares hotness in women means it is broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:01 PM
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Well I am a woman and no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:20 AM
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Oh ok. I don’t have a problem w just saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:07 AM
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Gross
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:06 AM
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Lmfao I don’t have to sell you on my point idgaf if you get it or not men peddle this toxic bs and shit on art and beauty and then turn around and cry that they don’t find things visually pleasing as if perhaps you should work your palate once in awhile 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:05 AM
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How you think you’re gonna fake a marriage and not fight 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:03 AM
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Ew sounds like you hang out w shallow lesbians
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:02 AM
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That’s why you have to buy books by fat poets and watch art house films
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:00 AM
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Sounds like a good reason to deconstruct compulsive heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:58 AM
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a guy sitting buy himself isn't creepy unless he's positioned himself to stare at women or children. This is mostly in your head. Yes there are people who will judge you for eating alone. They are losers from the suburbs. 🤷‍♀️ idk what you want me to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:54 AM
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idc if its common or not. especially during a pandemic when we are separated and there is so much less pressure to measure up this is a fucked up thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:12 AM
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Holding up a mask doesn’t make a person less vulnerable, it just looks that way. this is a circle
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:47 AM
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trees have also changed shape and structure over time. not that weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:45 AM
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yeah this is just circle talk
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:37 AM
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> Frankly these standards (ultra thin no blemishes full lips dark lashes particular jawline etc.) were invented by people who are dead and dying. what? >Sleazy porn douchebags are appealing to existing standards, they're just upholding them too. according to their own gaze. >when I say highly influential entrepreneurs are arbiters of taste, I mean that they are using that power to enforce the status quo. sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:33 AM
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To use someone for status?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:10 AM
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But men just mask full time so they aren’t vulnerable so it affects them less or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:10 AM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:08 AM
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Yeah no doubt. I’m sure that’s why tons of people are together and stay together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:08 AM
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I don’t think she invented any standards. I think she upholds existing standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:07 AM
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Sure. Would I string a guy along into a marriage to fit in? Can't fathom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:36 AM
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OP for instance
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:34 AM
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its absolutely gendered. how do men joke about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:34 AM
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I would because I take care to construct a healthy media diet for myself. I agree that is time consuming and not readily available for people tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:07 AM
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> who will tell you that yes, there are unrealistic expectations placed upon them in the media. and the media is run by men who watch porn 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:05 AM
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they are saying it in their own words? why do you believe they are lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:52 AM
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they dont value their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:09 AM
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my safety > your feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:50 AM
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by "the media" you mean all the porn men watch
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:46 AM
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thats like saying "most trees are ugly" if you think most trees are ugly, your brain is ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:46 AM
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> He said "most girls look better with clothes on." Are you sure your friend is attracted to women? Perhaps his sexual conquests are about overcompensating for something?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:45 AM
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as opposed to when you fight constantly and people can tell you have a shitty marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:45 AM
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but they don't value it? so they wouldn't find pleasure or joy in it? like patrick bateman says, his partner just isn't terribly important to him. he needs to put on the mask of assimilating to others of his status and just do what they do but it doesn't "feel" like it feels like for a normal human.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:44 AM
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I think this is also why women are constantly not believing men when they say "you're pretty" or "i like you" there's a meme where a man and a woman are at the altar getting married and the bride is like "okay but do you actually like me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:43 AM
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do you really think this is normal or are you just trying to be creepy to be edgy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:42 AM
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ding ding ding
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:42 AM
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I think 50% of men want this 50% of the time and the other half of men want this 30% of the time at LEAST.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:41 AM
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How do you know the abuse claim was false?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 06:50 PM
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Congrats on being less of a piece of shit than men I have slept w 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:10 PM
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Less than 10% of marriages end in alimony and most women in relationships work full time. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:46 PM
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Gross and creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:59 AM
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It’s still creepy to make “sarcastic” comments about driving a bus into a feminists house?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:47 AM
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Talking about driving a bus into a feminists house?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:20 PM
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Beyond creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:54 PM
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Probably have someone there to care for them 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:49 AM
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I cannot fathom why this is relevant to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:05 AM
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That it’s setting men up to hate themselves and hurt others bc it’s a pyramid scheme of alpha men abusing other men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:04 AM
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Idk what else I would do w my life other than self-mastery
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 07:03 AM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:11 AM
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You are describing an abusive relationship while trying to tell me men are as moral as women. There’s no way for you to make a convincing argument when the evidence has already been demonstrated, by you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:46 AM
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If you mean not being attached to outcomes sure
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:44 AM
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Lollllllllllllllllllllllllll what? How can you actually believe that when you were just literally being a sadist and talking about how you are excited to harm people? On what planet do you think that’s not a personality disorder?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:38 AM
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I have no idea, I no longer use apps. I guess at the time I thought since I’m not interested in using people and I’m on it other people like me probably were too. We’re not as unique as we think we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:27 AM
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And yet you tried your hardest to make it a gendered issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:25 AM
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So do men? I’m not interested in debating the worlds thinnest argument, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:09 AM
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I never thought all men cheat? I have been shocked to discover lots of men cheat. The men who are in relationships and not cheating are obviously not on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:08 AM
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I am so confused
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:23 AM
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I mean no one will make you date anyone you don’t want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:09 AM
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She was a single mother w two kids doesn’t red pill say that’s the worst?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:05 AM
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She didn’t. Either a lot more men are cheating or it’s easier to catch many of them. Which does not mean all cheaters are easy to catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:54 AM
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To discuss gender and dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:43 AM
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I have no idea what you mean. You think my mom was catching so many cheaters when she was dating before SM?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:43 AM
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Oh I’m not trying to put words in your mouth. But you keep denying you said most sex workers weren’t trafficked and then also doubling down on it. I can’t get you to just say what you are arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:42 AM
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And yet men kill at a rate of 9:1
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:41 AM
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No idea what that is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:15 AM
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I think you’re not listening that this is two different groups of men. Lazy cheaters are easy to catch. I have caught so many men cheating before even meeting them from apps it’s insane. But yes predators also exist and are very difficult to identify or catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:13 AM
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Then why are you asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:35 PM
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Well you keep refusing to say your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:34 PM
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So you would agree men are less moral than women and it’s reasonable for us to fear men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:26 PM
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Yes? They should have? That sucks but your kid didn’t ask to be born.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:12 PM
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Which is what you said is happening now? People are forced to live together bc they can’t afford to live on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:12 PM
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Yes that’s part of how I make money
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:10 PM
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Whereas in the 1950s men and women were all living in their own one bedroom? Or what is the argument here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:40 PM
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And? Raising a child on 900 in the us is nearly impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:39 PM
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What? I would never say those things. Marketing is inherently manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:38 PM
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I don’t know if you are trolling? Why else would you keep misrepresenting what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:37 PM
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So you are okay with being a sadist and inflicting hurt on others?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:37 PM
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i dont see how that's less sadistic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:17 PM
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> We also live in a society where you can't afford to live on a single (normal) income anymore. what? then everyone would be married and this sub wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:16 PM
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a concept map sent w no context is only a photo. You later sent the context link, which is great, but by itself it is not a source worth spending time looking at.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:15 PM
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So do you still not admit that you either made a mistake in sending a contextless photo or were in error that it’s a good source? Bc you sent it and then said “are you familiar w research” after I told you that’s not a good source. You are being rude and gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:04 PM
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You said “do you know what research is” which is rude. Im not going to argue about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:01 PM
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That’s inherently abusive? I can’t imagine saying I want to be in a relationship w someone who isn’t allowed to complain. Gross. 🤢😷
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:59 PM
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Which is fine but I have to keep explaining why it’s necessary bc you insulted me for not accepting a contextless photo as proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:58 PM
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Alimony isn’t a thing anywhere. Less than 10% of divorces in the us have alimony awarded to either gender. The average child support in the us is $450/month which is far below the cost of caring for a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:58 PM
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You mean the product of cheating? Obviously that’s a different issue. But he didn’t say that so I’m not assuming. I’ve def heard men clarify they mean any child that isn’t there’s should starve in the streets for all they care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:41 PM
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I mean I’m not gonna rely on a skit we can just disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:40 PM
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Of course not? But you didn’t send me a paper. You sent me a photo w no links and no context. Then you sent me links and insulted me for not finding a blind link to a photo reputable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:39 PM
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It was not linked in the photo link no, it was a dead end. Literally just a photo w no other links.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:30 PM
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According to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:27 PM
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If it was in the context of an article it would be. When it’s blind linked to alone, no. We disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:27 PM
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No? It was a picture. Which means it can be photoshopped. That’s not a good enough source for me to spend time investigating it. Do you not understand that sending someone a photo as an argument is weird and bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:15 PM
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It was blind linked to w no context when the situation called for sharing something that explained that female sex tourism exists
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:12 PM
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So a marketer appropriated the words to sound trendy and informed during a sales pitch?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:10 PM
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Yes I have done post grad studies. Have you? What is the scope of sex tourism and how many women are traveling for sex compared to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:09 PM
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its a link to a photo? lol is it talking about 1 woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:49 PM
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women have NO RIGHT to complain
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:49 PM
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gross to all of the above
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:48 PM
1

according to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:39 PM
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ok? who is saying you can't say this? or are you conflating people not accepting your opinion with people trying to say you have to stay silent?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:39 PM
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i'm a woman. I don't think they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:38 PM
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> This is dangerous, it's far easier to project fake image on social media than IRL. Girls often cite this convenience "At last, I don't have to gossip about guys in the bitch club!!!!111" only to proceed to be on rotation of guys who have at least vague understanding of SM game. I don't understand what you are talking about? I meant it is easier to weed out married men, not that men are assumed to be safe or single if I don't find something? > consider: "IG models" is not something guys actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:36 PM
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how would anyone benefit from people not complaining? you realize issues don't disappear if you stay silent about them, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:36 PM
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i have never even heard of female sex tourism? no i am unfortunately only attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:35 PM
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good luck enforcing your weird idea why not put it in your dating profile and all the women who dont immediately want to fuck you will self select out?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:33 PM
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what wouldn't being careless be continuing the unhealthy behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:32 PM
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toxic masculinity. they are socialized to get their worth from hurting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:32 PM
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are you trying to figure out how to must inflict hurt in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:31 PM
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> a Brazilian surfer or a Caribbean male masseuse literally nothing sounds less attractive this man sounds disease ridden and ran through
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:31 PM
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it seems like in that situation you would be angry that your perception was wrong. they acted like they were really into you when they weren't. seems like this is a player.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:30 PM
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Its hard to know unless we follow dating coaches to see what they are saying? wanna give us a tl;dr?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:30 PM
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which generous social safety nets?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:29 PM
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so you're gonna be the complaint police? sounds like a fun life
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:29 PM
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men aren't financially committed either way, less than 10% of marriages end in allimony from either the man or the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:28 PM
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men struggle in particular as their main role as providers isn't really what can get them a partner on its own anymore i mean... isn't the problem that men don't provide anymore? women with husbands and boyfriends still work full time. they also don't provide safety as we used to think they did. we now know women are most at risk from the men they know than from strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:28 PM
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> it’s very hard to keep a relationship in 2022 with social media I understand the "my life has to look perfect on social media" people but that's not everyone. I don't use filters or wear makeup and I try not to make my life look unrealistic while also acknowledging that sm is a "scrapbook" that's going to show off happier memories than an average day. But I do think SM still negatively affects SOME kinds of men for me, the kind that would be able to get away with mistreating me if I wasn't abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:21 PM
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I hope they are doing it because they want to and not because its the only way they can find intimacy or feel loved/cared for. It def got to a point where it should be considered suicidal for me? Given that the less you are screening for "simp behavior" the more you will come across men who don't value your life and will literally just strangle you without asking. I could have died several times during "casual hookups".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:18 PM
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Isn’t that good? My standard is reachable by most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:10 AM
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I thought you were saying KK was a bare minimum, my bad I’m microdosing. Could you share a photo of what you think the bare minimum of upkeep for a woman from a man’s perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:16 AM
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No makeup no hair dye no plastic surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:37 AM
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😮 Holy shit. Kim kardashian spray paints her legs bc even makeupless legs are too natural for her. Google it. She literally sells it as a product. That is the ceiling not the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 01:36 AM
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Those are two different things tho. If I say I want a guy w a natural look I don’t mean he does natural look makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 11:17 PM
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you're saying women are just making shit up instead of repeating their experiences with men? why? men actually don't know that the look they prefer is not natural. for instance, how many men don't know that what they think of as blonde isn't a natural hair color?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:31 PM
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I'm so exhausted of being gaslit by y'all. This is discussed every single day in this sub. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/mfu9xt/if\_women\_get\_pumped\_and\_dumped\_by\_men\_they/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:54 PM
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a lot of men think "natural" "basic pride in your appearance" is kim kardashian.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:47 PM
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That’s not what men here say. They say if a woman is pursued by a man who is more attractive than her he will mistreat her and it’s her fault for not understanding she is uglier than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:30 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:58 PM
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Can’t do that if you don’t eat 3x a day
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:58 PM
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The men who have told me they don’t know my name
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:27 AM
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That isn’t mutually exclusive with what I’m saying? I think you misunderstood that men can and have exploited women’s domestic labor to achieve what they would not be able to alone, but then do not also share the credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:27 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:11 AM
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Your second paragraph is saying the exact thing I am criticizing you for saying. The majority of sex workers are not high end escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:15 PM
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For sure. I was saying when I was dating some guys told me they got ghosted all the time and I felt bad and went out w them and gave them extra attention and they ghosted me. I have no idea if they were like you or predators pretending.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:42 PM
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Ok I misunderstood, yes that is ghosting. It is super hurtful. If a conversation peters out that’s one thing but if a guy is trying to get in touch I would respond and be like sorry I’m not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:35 PM
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Oh you mean you were ghosted by the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:25 PM
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You should edit your comment then
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:24 PM
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“It’s not true that most sex workers were victims of sex trafficking” - your post
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:23 PM
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Yeah sounds awful. My dad did that growing up and we got in trouble for luke opening the cupboard to get a glass of water.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:22 PM
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So you see this w men on the biz/sales side often?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:21 PM
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That’s completely fair. I would never consider me not responding to his messages him ghosting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:21 PM
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That’s awesome, not what I hear from my male friend in tech but he’s not on the STEM side. From him I hear “we can’t have Christmas parties bc women complain too much”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:03 PM
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Can’t wait for the men here to tell us how it’s actually bad that some women like STEM
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:56 PM
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Working graveyard is a v limiting thing tho? Basically he is limited to dating women who work graveyard, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:54 PM
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By playing the numbers game they are lessening the value of male attention. When male attention is not connected to the male actually liking you it becomes valueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:52 PM
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Lol most men can’t remember the names of the women they’ve had sex w multiple times
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:51 PM
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When I have been w guys like this they ghosted me 😂🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:51 PM
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Basically everyone in this sub is going to gaslight you about dating as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:50 PM
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You say power rests in women’s hands but then clarify you’re only talking about attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:49 PM
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Um you experiencing one aspect of sex work (escorts) doesn’t make you an expert on sex workers in general. You fuck w the most privileged group and then claim sex trafficking “isn’t an issue”. Aren’t men supposed to be the more logical sex? Ex: “I only go to fine dining restaurants so no restaurants use plastic silverware or straws”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:42 PM
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Men have never approached where I’m from. I remember traveling to like San Francisco and being surprised how much I was hit on. A man also exposed himself to me tho at the bus stop and it was traumatizing so idk what to say about which culture is better. I guess I’d take less men if the cost of men approaching is also harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:40 PM
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No but it makes him safer Men won’t hold themselves or other men accountable for their behavior, but a wife/gf will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:38 PM
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You literally just told me you’ve never comprehended abuse before today.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:32 PM
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So you’ve never heard of abuse? Are men dumb? Is this why y’all are the way you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:16 PM
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No you aren’t. You’re trying to neg women into fucking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:58 PM
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I don’t get it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:58 PM
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Pedos arent going to do it in front of you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:53 PM
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People are obsessed w looking the other way and making excuses for them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:45 PM
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Kindergarten when they older boys in my neighborhood started chasing me at the park to take my clothes off. Sometimes they caught me. I got the courage up to tell one of their moms and she told me “that’s what boys do” so I felt dumb and never told anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:43 PM
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Yes? Women like smart men. Men like dumb women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:42 PM
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When is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:41 PM
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What’s wrong with asking someone out? I thought men wanted up be free to ask women out anywhere anytime? Should we tell them they need to mind read?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:40 PM
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Lol the way you try to get women to question their value so they will follow your arbitrary ideas about how they should live their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:39 PM
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No? Unless you mean they might murder sex workers, then yes. I agree that’s a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:38 PM
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Sure but commitment means you commit to growing together
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:37 PM
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We already here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 05:11 PM
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Like what did men do in the past that they do t do now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 05:11 PM
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So not our existence
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:04 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:07 PM
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Haha speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 02:35 PM
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It sounds like you’re saying my statement is accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 02:26 PM
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Boring is one of my favorite attributes in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 02:25 PM
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I don’t assume it’s malice. I don’t allow abusers to use plausible deniability. If you can’t tell the difference, then don’t YOU assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 03:58 AM
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Except sometimes it’s malice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 02:40 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 02:38 AM
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That’s what I did for the decade of life men were abusing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:56 AM
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Depth is in the eye of the beholder.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:54 AM
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Women often do just that. Still means they got mistreated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:51 AM
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That’s abuser logic. Men and women both abuse but bc they abuse. They are responsible for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 01:50 AM
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the solution to men dating women they don't like is for women to change? LMFAO holy shit. Stop fucking dating women you hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:48 PM
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> When you have everything else, keep yourself in shape, dress well, earn a decent income, is it really such a stretch to want something the majority of human beings find at some point? It's not a stretch if you are poor and ugly. > Is it not completely rational to presume there’s something deeply wrong with you if you can’t achieve it? Yes that is rational and normal. Part of the problem is there is no other way for many people, especially men, to feel apart of a community if they are single. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:46 PM
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well yeah, because men belittle us and expect us to be their mommy mbangmaid. if men were 10-20% more caring I feel like everyone's problems would be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:35 PM
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yes this is what women mean when we say "men don't actually like women"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:07 PM
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no one is going to meet all your needs all the time and you will resent them for not meeting your needs and tank the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:06 PM
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i mean the holocaust "worked" if your goal was to committ genocide? so if your goal is to hurt women then yeah? i guess your abuse plan works? abuse is generally an efficient way to take advantage of weaker people to get what you want. thats literally the point of abuse. > I wouldn’t consider what I do as abuse. you described gaslighting women. That is objectively abuse. > They’re the ones who make me LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:06 PM
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It's is ok to assume risks and suffer consequences you're acting like men hurting women is like the weather and its unavoidable and they have no culpability. >If a person doesn't want to be poorly treated and wants respect such person must respect him/her self first Gross. No. I don't disrespect people because they are vulnerable and don't have self esteem? That would be fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:55 PM
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in eating disorder treatment you have to learn how to get validation from stuff other than your weight or measurments. It seems impossible. But after a few years of building up other areas of your life, you do kinda forget that you used to ONLY get it from one unhealthy thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:54 PM
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> It’s very easy to say “don’t become bitter.” But when men are shamed into approaching (you’re not a real man if you don’t) and then rejected and labelled creepy when they do, can really blame a few for thinking women are shallow and selfish? Sounds like the problem is toxic masculinity that says men are valuable when they can "get" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:53 PM
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I think what people don't understand about socially awkward dudes is that most aren't trying to be creepy and off-putting on purpose. A lot of socially awkward men hear women talk about creeps who are intimidating women on purpose and ASSUME the creeps are socially awkward and not predators who are getting off on doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:52 PM
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> as a guy, once you “decenter the importance of sex and ‘getting women’”, you find yourself a lot less interested in interacting with women at all. Yes. If you don't like women outside of getting validation from your boys, you should absolutely stay the fuck away from women. You are probably resenting the women you date because you don't actually want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:51 PM
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Unfortunately there is no dating site or app in existence that contains only polite, well-behaved and sincere men (and women) who want to go about things the right way, and actually solving the problem would mean less customers and less profits; unless we get a government-regulated dating program it will always be this way. If there is no safe way for women to date, yeah, that's an issue that needs to be solved unless we just want most people to be single. It's so crazy to me that in order for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:50 PM
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>So? So it's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:47 PM
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its not instantaneous. not being driven by scarcity and fear is not the norm and it takes a lot of work over a long period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:47 PM
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thats how men talk and think. it's not about women as human beings, it's about telling their boys (even just in their head) that they can "get" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 07:49 PM
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decentering men is something i encourage all women to do and i think it will lead to more healthy relationships. i also invite men to decenter the importance of sex and "getting women".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 07:35 PM
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We don’t know men’s reality is different from ours, no. When you lie to women obviously they will not know the truth? There’s a man in this very thread instructing men how to mislead and harm women for sex. And if your defense is it happens to women all the time… that means you’re okay with it happening to them the first time. You’re basically saying it’s okay for men to run through women and leave them damaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 07:15 PM
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Do you have aspd? Or why are you okay with this? Do you also deny that women are regularly abused while teaching men to abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:44 PM
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Does she tell you why she isn’t on dating sites? I feel like that is the actual problem. Why are dating sites so inhospitable women choose being single over using them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:41 PM
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But men pursue. So if you don’t wanna interview… no one thinks that’s a problem? It’s when you get the job and then decide you don’t care but you don’t communicate that or in fact gaslight the woman about the fact that you don’t care and hold her hostage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:40 PM
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Also we are v likely to be preyed on by predators who select for traits like empathy and agreeableness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:41 PM
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It def sounds like you expect a woman to meet all your needs and make your life worth living.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:40 PM
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Entjs are great bosses.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:39 PM
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Imo intjs don’t get the job bc they aren’t interested. They don’t care about relationships much so healthy women won’t pick them but unhealthy women will be obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:38 PM
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This is a malignant narc playbook? So.. you are advocating for men to become abusers?? Like… for real? 😧😧😧
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:36 PM
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Yeah I can tell you’re not a feeler by the way you describe school shooters 😧
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:36 PM
2

Why not date intp women? Aren’t there tons of nerdy gamer women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:35 PM
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Intp males are so difficult to be around
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:34 PM
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Yeah op is missing that personality types who value introversion aren’t desperate to be in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:34 PM
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Haha as a highly agreeable woman it is a great way to be raped and abused by predatory men but yeah I guess I’m not a virgin so yay?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:33 PM
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Men are so afraid of being seen as and treated like how they treat women that they arent honest w themselves about their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:27 PM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:25 PM
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I don’t. There are just too many predators who approach. I don’t know what to do about it either except maybe actually punish predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:25 PM
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Yup it’s totally gross. Teachers were regularly rumored or caught being inappropriate w students. I had a coach who went to jail. 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:24 PM
1

Yes and choosing to leave is sometimes the only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:23 PM
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Who did I shame for being poor?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:54 AM
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how? men have demands of women, women have demands of men. that's just dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:40 PM
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Full of men pursuing you for sex while pretending they see you as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:54 PM
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They can?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:51 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:49 PM
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The obsession w blaming women for men’s actions is strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:49 PM
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You claiming good men “pass around” women is unhinged. Those aren’t good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:48 PM
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“Pleasant energy” Lmfao So y’all are redefining feminine as slave who smiles at you and not actual feminine traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:47 PM
4

*poor nerds
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:45 PM
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Women have to be hot
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:45 PM
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I’m saying that it’s appalling that kindness and genuineness in a relationship can be measured by income and/or how many (expensive) gifts the man offers. Do you think it's appaling that so many men fake this for sex that women are forced to vet using measurable indicators that a man is actually having his actions match his words?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 05:05 PM
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> We both know you value women over men and think all men are bad while all women are victims and are angels. I value the way women are socialized over the way men are socialized. Men aren't inherently bad or evil but toxic masculinity ("crying is for girls" masculinity) is harmful for both men and women. We see a direct link between increased violence against women and teaching toxic forms of masculinity. > I am not surprised you are okay with women using men. That's actually the opposite of wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:35 PM
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To you. I see inherent value in all life. I also see how random trauma causes some people to become damaged and act immorally. The randomness of this gives me pause in judging individuals as good or bad, while also trying to maintain distance from people who have become predatory. > And lots of women who aren't into you will use you for a free meal so you do have to vet them out. And men will use women for sex, which is a lot worse and a lot more common. That's wrong and it means those people ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:23 PM
1

Yes or no, do men encourage each other to be supportive, equal partners in their relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:14 PM
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Sure. Thinking someone is a better partner for you than another person is fine? That’s not similar to saying “men or women who make under $35k are low value”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:48 PM
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Being a supportive partner is called being a simp by men. They think it makes you gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:46 PM
1

It’s unhelpful to say being a Sahd is humiliating when men in this very thread say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:14 PM
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Ok? Women don’t get all their needs met either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:14 PM
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> The goal of a relationship is to acquire, exploit, and disempower. This is really unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:47 PM
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If you're that interested in it, read like Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents, The Drama of the Gifted Child, or Human Magnet Syndrome and understand why men and women who choose partners who are selfish to the extreme that those partners hurt themselves and others with their selfish actions. It's not random, it's an easy to understand symptom of generational relationship dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:15 PM
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"As a guy it feels like 90% of the whole process is on me in the sense that I have to catch her cues, foreplay, place, lasting more than 5 minutes, not lasting too long, making her cum, and having skill." Because you think of dating as "i have to do everything right or else I won't get sex" and not "I'm going to be myself so we can both determine if we are a good match based on the other person's real personality not a mask they put on to try to extract sex from as many women as possible."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:05 PM
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Wow so someone finally agrees men lead women on and it's immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:04 PM
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I am begging you to stop watching porn and stop trying to force sex into your relationships. This is so far from reality and unhinged. Like, read a few memoirs written by women or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:03 PM
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Men think it's gay to be a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:03 PM
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"My main point is that, based on this, slut shaming is fair and important, regarding both the behaviour of men and women. " We don't shame men who abuse women? Or rape women? because we need "proof". Are y'all offering the women you plan to slut shame "innocent until proven guilty"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:56 PM
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from 2015.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:55 PM
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its really sick that you refer to PUA as the dark arts. Like if you realize it is sick like we all do, it's not an "art". Your reverence for it is disturbing and suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:54 PM
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y'all need to stop defining people as high and low value. like... no man i want to date does this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:51 PM
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lol what? men don't think there is a power dynamic in relationships? 🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:48 PM
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Then what’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:33 PM
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I don’t think of humans in terms of value. All humans are inherently valuable. However lots of men who aren’t into you will use you for sex so you do have to vet them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:33 PM
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Men offering up the lowest hanging fruit that benefits them isn’t anti-capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:31 PM
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🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:56 AM
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Because you’re a dude thinking about how no one is going to suck your dick
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:24 PM
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🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:44 PM
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So then they are dumb. Don’t let dumb people make your decisions for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:43 PM
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Some would. Most women would want him to have a non minimum wage job and be able to talk to her like he’s not an idiot whether or not he has a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:44 PM
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> Me, I make midish 6 figures in tech, and I always say I don't need a chick that's some ivy league scholar and I damn sure don't want some hyper career woman , but bare minimum at least some college or trade equivalent and the ability to be decent with money from that to where you can somewhat reliably live on your own ( pay off your rent ,your car Etc) , and NO significant debt, what says y'all? Men would say this is a too high standard if you were a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:19 PM
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That says a lot about you if you don’t know any women who are telling them they struggle to meet a man who gives as much as he takes. This is a popular belief and is talked about a ton around holidays for instance when women are expected to manage all aspects of the holidays except maybe putting up outside lights and carving a turkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:14 PM
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100%it’s a rude and snobby statement. Which is also not virtuous so I don’t think it’s virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:41 PM
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How is being gay now a virtue signal?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:35 PM
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I’m a moron because I responded to a comment in a debate sub? 🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:33 PM
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So you come to Reddit? I don’t buy that’s the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:16 PM
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Yes. Less than half of people in America reach adulthood w a healthy attachment system. If you don’t get that you will be a giver or a taker in relationship to a degree that harms yourself and others. ETA: you can be a man who learns to be a giver (either in a healthy level or to a degree that hurts himself and others) and a woman who is a taker. It just tends to fall into gendered roles bc that’s the existing rut that exists in our culture that can be encouraged by parents and then policed by p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:03 PM
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Not sure why you got triggered by that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:56 PM
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Great. Sounds like you were able to do that. Many people are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:55 PM
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Obviously? Congrats on your upbringing and finding a great partner. That’s the ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:42 PM
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Creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:41 PM
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But if a man feels punished… fds is working. That’s the exact kind of guy fds was created to vet out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:41 PM
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If the strategy is like pua yes. But fds is mostly about getting OUT bad men. Not tricking someone INTo a relationship or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:40 PM
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So it was good that you broke up w her. Idk why men are so confused about this. She didn’t do something “wrong” to turn you off and was then punished by you picking someone else. This is how dating is supposed to work. You are supposed to be yourself and then break up and keep looking if you aren’t compatible. 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:39 PM
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And they are welcome to? The whole point is to weed those men out. Not trick them into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:34 PM
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This is disengenous. You can point out how capitalism hurts us and also understand that a guy being low effort w you is a very bad sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:34 PM
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In his misogynistic fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:32 PM
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That’s in your head. No fds woman has said that ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:32 PM
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That’s not what queer tiktok says. Every single post is “thank god I don’t date men” and “are the straights ok”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:31 PM
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What is anti-masculine about fds?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:30 PM
2

Lesbians truly win the genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:30 PM
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Yes. The problem comes for people who don’t think managing a household or raising kids is labor the same way working for an employer to make money is labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:29 PM
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Bc they don’t believe that’s equal and they additionally believe it’s a good way to get pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:27 PM
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No, that’s not true at all lol. People adhere to gender roles bc they they it’s required of them in order to receive love.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:27 PM
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Yeah this is your personal complex not a universal feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:25 PM
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Speak for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:25 PM
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I’d rather have my lifestyle than kids and a stah
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:24 PM
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We know. Yet dads who are already dads participate so little in their children’s lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:24 PM
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How is that different from men valuing women for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:23 PM
1

Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:23 PM
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It’s not. Working outside the home is still new in human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:23 PM
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Why would they be put off? It’s literally history. Working outside the home is new.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:22 PM
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What about your mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:21 PM
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Yeah? But it’s also reasonable to be more interested in dating someone w their life together. Plenty of women are breadwinners in their relationship. Date those women if it’s an issue for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:19 PM
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Men don’t see women as partners, they see us as a support system.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:07 PM
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I prefer it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:06 PM
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Better than a guy who makes cruel jokes about others
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:06 PM
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Yeah if he’s been ran through he probably is a womanizer and dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:06 PM
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Yeah I assume whether or not the guy is interested in me he’ll pretend he is for sex and I’ll get hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:05 PM
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Don’t hurt people and they won’t get hurt. A guy could assume away but bc I’m not trying to trick him I would continue to communicate and he would not feel surprised or betrayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 04:42 PM
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If a girl is starfishing she doesn’t want to be there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 03:34 PM
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I don’t think ungroomed men are sexy, no
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 12:50 AM
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I’m good thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:58 PM
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But if you don’t wipe your ass you probably also don’t wash your face or get regular haircuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:57 PM
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So women except for the one who calls you on it. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 10:30 PM
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I’m not a pearl clutcher about hygiene but uh yes there is, especially for men being well groomed is a big part of being attractive. Having nice teeth you take care of, having skin that isn’t grey bc you don’t know what exfoliating is, keeping your hair well trimmed, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 10:27 PM
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The title
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 09:39 PM
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well yeah, but the user was saying thats the only reason a guy isn't trying to have sex again w the same person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 06:08 PM
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yeah thats a ridiculously creepy and mean thing to do? Maybe get someone to explain to you how making a mistake and doing something insane on purpose are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 06:08 PM
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"Wanting to see me again, even for sex, suggests something additional in intent and interest." a ppd guy made a post awhile back that if a guy has sex with you and doesn't try to see you again you have a disgusting smelly vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:15 PM
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sex isn't really "anything" though is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:14 PM
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and then the girl will only fuck guys with bed frames and men will say she is being too hard on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:14 PM
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because sex is an expression of physcial affection?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:13 PM
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lots of fuckboys tell you up front and then after that shift their words and behavior to be more opaque, giving you the impression they might be changing their mind from their initial gut reaction to what they want from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:13 PM
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Fuckboys operate in gray areas and encourage assumptions while maintaining plausible deniability. ding ding ding
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:12 PM
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most men only looking for casual sex aren't generally that... giving, or even really nice. Yes. That is the problem. We think "oh we will have fun and enjoy each others company!" he thinks "i'm going to use her" Obviously that creates problems because its not nice to use someone? like why can't yall chill and just have fun and enjoy the company instead of being such dicks about it? It's not that we are asking for a relationship by not wanting to be used, its that you can NOT BE IN A RELATIONSHIP…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:12 PM
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we don't. we assume you will treat us with basic respect. unfortunately many men assume that basic respect is only something you give to a woman you have committed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:09 PM
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women are by default low value in a patriarchal society
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:09 PM
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i think they are really sad inside. can't be a good person. can't have actually loved the woman they used to date. gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:08 PM
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me not being abused by men because i avoid them now isn't "getting back at them" jfc. it is living a life free of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:07 PM
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a guy who leaves skidmarks isn't a jerk? a jerk is someone who is rude to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:06 PM
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men everywhere tell us we need to date ugly men if we want to be treated well, why is it shocking that many women try dating ugly men to see if they can find love that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:05 PM
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If I was rare men would value me. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 12:52 AM
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I don’t think any woman thinks she’s not supposed to enjoy sex? We think men can’t or won’t make it enjoyable. 95% of women can orgasm within 5 minutes while masturbating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:46 PM
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If men were offering the other stuff we would be having orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:45 PM
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No? I’m not complaining about sexlessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 08:05 PM
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then why do males always announce when a woman they aren't even in a relationship with makes their peepee go down? why do men in relationships with women who gain weight or age make such a big deal about it if penises require no effort to get off?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:56 PM
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Then there is no male sexlessness problem. Just get yourselves off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:02 PM
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The fact that you need to downplay it says a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:02 PM
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its not wrong to catch feelings? If he continues to treat her with respect that's fine. It's wrong to act like this and then say "well we weren't dating so you're crazy" when someone catches feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:01 PM
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Nope. The biggest turnoff is a guy not being into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:00 PM
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Yes. That tracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:00 PM
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you're assuming couples are made up of two people who care about each other. They are often made up of a man who wants sex but doesn't actually care about the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:59 PM
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> Of course we are, we doesn't have a vagina, or labia, or a clitoris etc. How should we know how it feels like? Women don't have dicks. > In best case, he may ask what you like and how you like it and is doing it accordingly. This rarely happens and when it does its been kind of a lazy thing, the guy isn't curious and interested he is looking for the path of least resistence to get what he wants. > If he doesn't ask, you can also give suggetions on your own. Much more common. I tell men when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:58 PM
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Nope. It's too big of a health risk I would never be able to relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:55 PM
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No. I don't want to manipulate someone into being with me. If you don't like something about me, I don't want to hide it. I want you to see it so you leave me alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:54 PM
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Can’t relate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 03:37 PM
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If a very small number of men are “getting what they want” doesn’t that mean men find a very small number of women satisfying? Why the vitriol aimed at women when you guys are worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 12:05 AM
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> What I'm saying is I don't see this in real life. Dudes I see that don't treat women with respect are very consistent with it. Great. Then they aren't the men people are talking about? > women just don't care before sex as much as they do after when they want a relationship. well yeah if a stranger mistreats you its not as bad as when someone you were vulnerable with mistreats you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 10:02 PM
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> In the past I've split it off with at least 4 different women that thought I should take them more seriously because we had sex after I already told them I didn't want a relationship with them. Yes? You do have more of a relationship with them than you have with a random on the street? That doesn't mean you are boyfriend/girlfriend or committed in any way. Men are mistaking committment for just treating someone with basic respect. > I think your emotions are why you perceive his actions as wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:36 PM
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> I’m a firm believer in leaving things better than you left them. i used to have that on my dating profile until i realized it was a siren song for narcs 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 08:06 PM
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Great. Its exceptionally rare to hear a man say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:37 PM
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what? how would a woman making less than her husband be a breadwinner? breadwinner means you make more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:36 PM
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you said they were complaining about the women? Nobody likes a low value person with unrealistic expectations. right. exactly. why would women date men who see them as low value?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:36 PM
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They never are but they always say that. Treating someone really well while saying "i dont want a relationship" and then treating them really bad after sex isn't being honest, that's a bait and switch. No one wants to be treated poorly. Either treat people with basic respect, be consistent in how you treat people, or allow people to accurately label you as a bait and switcher.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:35 PM
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yeah? its definitely easier to get shit by lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:34 PM
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i agree thats where it would fall.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:28 PM
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Yes. And it's wrong. We all agree it's wrong. Now can men admit that lying for sex is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:27 PM
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Yes bc they become pick mes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:08 PM
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Sex object. I have more control over my success.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:07 PM
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I don’t care? I’m not cheating or being cheated on. No thanks. I’d rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:07 PM
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Uh no. You count them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:06 PM
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I need to feel safe If I don’t I’m not going to want sex. Have you tried making women feel safe?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:06 PM
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Bc lowering my standards would mean dating men who abuse me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:05 PM
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No? Men seem simple and hoodwinked into thinking being a bad person makes them a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:04 PM
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I only know men who pretend their wives are on board but are actually just looking to cheat on old.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:03 PM
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Many men pursue women they know they don’t want a relationship with for sex. It’s one thing to not know but many men know. Source: am a fat woMan
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:01 PM
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So we can agree both are wrong and stop defending this behavior regardless of gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:00 PM
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Yes. It’s about domination for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:29 PM
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I didn’t assume shit. You said in your own words men don’t like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:05 AM
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No? Learn how numbers work. Some have female breadwinners. Some make about the same. Female breadwinners also live w men who work full time as I just pointed out w the male breadwinners number. 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:04 AM
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Only 40% of households have male breadwinners. Most of the households also have a woman working full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:17 AM
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Right. Those women would rather be single than be with men who don’t actually like them. Why would they date men who think that way about them? That’s a recipe for abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:16 AM
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Those aren’t the same at all? How would being a sahm make you a parasite? If that couple divorced the man would have to pay for daycare while he works. The couple is saving that money by working together. Plus it’s voluntary. I am a high earner and don’t relate to this convo bc I wouldn’t date someone who depended on me if I didn’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:23 AM
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I don’t think you know the reality of the dating world
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:21 AM
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Why? Seems like anything could hurt in the right circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:36 PM
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On what planet? Fat women being too picky is like the number one thing men talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:36 PM
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I only mean basic respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:35 PM
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what tf are you talking about. you're literally just making up shit to be mad about. no one is forcing you to date obese women? wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:48 PM
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then it should be easy for you to link to a reputable source saying people get addicted to victimization.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:47 PM
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but you aren't the judge of whether someone is hurt or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:47 PM
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i dont think anyone is going to convince someone to give others basic respect but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:46 PM
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Certain groups take issue with certain types of men just existing. Okay? are people not allowed to have personal preferences anymore? don't men say this shit about fat women all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:05 PM
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Right, but posting my personal opinions on the internet is not "tantamount to violence" as Jordan Peterson has said on the subject. you are the one that is saying that. I said hurting people is wrong and maybe you should get therapy or consider why you like hurting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:44 PM
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You literally just made it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:21 PM
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OK? It's wrong to hurt people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:21 PM
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what women are uncomfortable with existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:16 PM
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There is no such thing as an addiction to being a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:41 PM
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So you’re one of those people who lie? Ok? We can just stop talking then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:11 PM
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To you. It has no meaning bc you like that you make women feel uncomfortable and you want to keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:10 PM
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Ok? That’s not really my problem. I just won’t fw you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:09 PM
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That depends entirely on the number of rapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:08 PM
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why? you just said you already made your decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:28 PM
1

the conviction rate isn't high?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:27 PM
1

please tell me how i choose to not have men say creepy or cruel shit to me online.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:27 PM
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this is abuser logic. "i can continue to abuse people because THEY seek it out".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:26 PM
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no idea
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:25 PM
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I said its a problem that men get away with rape. You said rape victims get justice if they report right away so I don't understand what your point is here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:43 PM
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then what is the point of your post? make a decision and move on dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:42 PM
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that would just be you? since it's a reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:42 PM
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That would further harm them? Or is that your point? You think they should be punished for finding you offensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:41 PM
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People who report early don't get justice. They may have a higher chance of getting justice, but it is extremely rare for a rape victim to get justice. Why are YOU lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:41 PM
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you told me yesterday rape isn't an issue because if you report it right away the rapist gets arrested and goes to jail. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:29 PM
1

Well that’s not healthy? Do you think that is aspirational?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:35 PM
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If men are being chivalrous for a reward y’all should stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:18 PM
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To be a human being and not wear a mask all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:17 PM
3

Except anyone can fuck a quarterback. Men fuck chicken sandwhiches.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:17 PM
3

Trp use women. Obviously that’s bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:16 PM
2

No
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:16 PM
1

Having the freedom to be a human being, fds
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:16 PM
1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:15 PM
6

Rape
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:15 PM
1

You misunderstand the term. Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:01 PM
1

Yes. And in the meantime?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:00 PM
1

Not sure how that’s related.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:00 PM
1

Sounds like only men tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:59 PM
1

Target audience for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:58 PM
0

Your red pilll friends are upholding these standards currently
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:57 PM
1

Some do some don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:57 PM
1

Right. That’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:56 PM
1

Foreplay?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:47 AM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:47 AM
2

Right. How are those people supposed to live without internet. You can’t just say I’m king of the hill go home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:46 AM
0

Because it’s more socially acceptable for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:45 AM
1

You think very poorly of men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:44 AM
1

I don’t want power other than autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:44 AM
0

You couldn’t live and function in our world without the internet. I couldn’t do my job without mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:53 PM
1

Sure. That’s not most women. We have to work to support ourselves and if we want kids we have to do it while dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:52 PM
1

Men say it all the time when they say if you don’t physically struggle it’s not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:34 PM
1

Weird that women also work and have time for dating and romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:32 PM
0

How would you have to trust feminists? You could literally just stop shaming men for being human. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:31 PM
1

Sounds like men need to be locked up
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:30 PM
1

Bc they don’t want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:29 PM
1

So most reported rapes end w convictions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:29 PM
1

So sexless men will rape children?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:46 PM
1

I don’t think women have a problem of thinking they are better than they are. Women in the west have lower self-esteem than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:46 PM
1

Whoa so all men want to fuck children 😳😳😳
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:39 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:38 PM
3

Everywhere all the time? Men can women hysterical. They tell us not to cry. They say we can’t be sad about a guy ghosting us unless it was official boyfriend/gf first. My male doctor told me not to “cry about it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:38 PM
1

Not 100% but that lots of women get justice. Which they don’t. Less than 1% of rapists go to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:36 PM
2

I love pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:36 PM
2

Men and women are bi at the same rate it’s just more socially acceptable for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:35 PM
0

What power did I say we need to give to women? How is not being shitty to your friends even giving women power?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:34 PM
-2

Wow. So now you think no one is damaged by trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:33 PM
1

So it can not work like it doesn’t work on pedophilia?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:33 PM
1

😳 You have sex w a willing partner not just anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:33 PM
1

Pedophilia is a huge problem and we do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:11 PM
1

Saying men will use you and saying rape is okay are the same level?? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:06 PM
1

You’re making shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:06 PM
1

I don’t think they gaf they are heavily shamed already and it’s not stopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:58 PM
5

Thank you. Men admitting this helps a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:57 PM
0

Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:57 PM
1

Lots of bi men won’t admit it to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:50 PM
1

Men punish women for crying and being emotional constantly. If you cared you would join with the people saying we need to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:50 PM
0

Do you understand how to tell someone information without being cruel?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:47 PM
3

Yikes that’s bad. Not as bad as the men here but def gross and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:45 PM
0

Yesterday a male here told me rape is a non issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:44 PM
1

So again, you’re making shit up. You claimed women get justice if they report right away. You have no data that shows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:36 PM
5

It never is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:45 PM
1

Numbers that are just convictions from women who reported right away?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:45 PM
1

It doesn’t really matter if they are just trolling or young. The damage they do is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:44 PM
3

Ok what do the “worst” of the lot say. Give me an example of the worst you’ve heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:44 PM
-3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:43 PM
-1

No? Compulsive heterosexuality means people who already aren’t straight are only straight bc of socialization. Maybe google words if you don’t understand them instead of being rude about how you don’t understand the convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:41 PM
1

But you haven’t shown evidence that women who report right away get justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:40 PM
9

Dicks is such a light word for how cruel they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:28 PM
5

Yup. Ding ding ding. The mods pretend it’s men and women being uncivil back and forth not misogynists saying “rape is a nonfactor” (said to me yesterday) and other insane things vs women sometimes being uncivil.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:27 PM
4

Hahaha there is like a 10:1 male supremacist to fds ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:25 PM
1

What do the existence of rape convictions prove?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:24 PM
1

What’s your source then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:17 PM
0

So you made up that women who report right away get justice. Yes, men say it was consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:02 PM
1

😳 Yeah. You don’t work in criminal justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:01 PM
1

I don’t believe someone who works w sex workers and has never come across a trafficked worker, no. Not for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:39 PM
0

You said the odds are great. You can’t show that. Now you’re backpedaling to basic “well it’s easier if you report right away” bs. You’re just making shit up to be rude to rape victims and it’s insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:38 PM
2

Creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:30 PM
1

Yeah. That’s bad. Taking advantage of people is literally bad. 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:29 PM
2

Shame and forcing people to perform gender roles hurts people. You can’t become a healthy adult if you don’t have an empathetic parent who you don’t have to perform for in order to receive love. There is no child who is loved and accepted too much that grows up to be a school shooter. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:29 PM
1

Now you’re backpedaling
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:27 PM
2

You’re projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:19 PM
1

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:19 PM
2

I don’t believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:18 PM
1

I don’t really care about your private power games
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:11 PM
1

How is that connected to timely reporting?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:06 PM
2

Yes actually giving women orgasms would make them want to have sex more?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:06 PM
5

Yes predators often get what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:05 PM
0

No it’s not? I manage to go through life without being those things. This is a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:05 PM
1

Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:04 PM
1

I mean maybe more maybe less depending on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:04 PM
1

Yeah. And the red pill is ensuring that will keep happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:03 PM
1

When has more shame ever helped a community ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:39 PM
2

Even as a little girl tv told me settling was my biggest nightmare (married…with children) so I don’t think that’s something people really do long term on purpose, no. I think male socialization is making men and women incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:38 PM
2

That’s so cruel and barbaric
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:37 PM
-1

Maybe compulsive heterosexuality is the problem then. Plenty of men are bi and could have male companions if we as a society would accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:37 PM
-1

That def seems like the direction American women are heading in
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:35 PM
1

Get rid of toxic masculinity so men don’t think it’s gay to have feelings and women actually want to be around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:35 PM
3

The sex workers are the victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:16 PM
1

Sounds like she doesn’t want sex. I wouldn’t have sex w someone who was just lying there. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:48 PM
1

Yes only 40% of adults in the us reach 18 w a healthy attachment system developed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:34 PM
0

Read his comment
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:34 PM
2

Well that’s creepy as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:34 PM
1

🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:24 PM
1

I’m fine being pen pals for awhile until we both feel comfy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:11 PM
5

Those aren’t mutually exclusive. Barbaric refers to the primacy of appetitive desire. Nothing inherently illogical about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:54 PM
18

If that were true you’d have them 🤦🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:53 PM
8

Barbaric reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:51 PM
7

But with a victiM
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:51 PM
22

You can’t use a human being in order to achieve your “rights”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:49 PM
0

Then keep doing what you are doing seems to be working great for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:48 PM
-3

He literally described mistreating her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:42 PM
0

🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:41 PM
1

If a woman is starfishing she doesn’t want to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:40 PM
1

Read literally any study about whether women are miserable single.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:39 PM
1

No? Bc men do way less labor in relationships and only 40% are breadwinners in their family. And most of those breadwinners have wives that also work full time. Women have to work full time and do all the relationship labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:39 PM
1

I exclusively go on dates w strangers. Men on apps are strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:37 PM
-5

She could have said it gently in an appropriate circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:37 PM
-13

That’s really insanely cruel. I’m gonna guess all the porn has contributed to you seeing women as objects which is why you’re now comfortable mistreating them so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:24 AM
2

First rule of neuroscience “nerves that fire together wire together”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:23 AM
-1

There’s less than a 1% chance any rapist faces consequences for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:21 AM
4

How do women get love that isn’t dependent on being a slave for someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:32 AM
6

How could porn sick not be real? You think watching something and masturbating to it has no impact on your sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:31 AM
1

He’s a stranger? No I don’t enjoy going to meet strange men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:29 AM
1

Then I won’t go if going has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:43 PM
4

Someone who isn’t a psycho wouldn’t be interested in hurting women. It’s literally all of them. 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:42 PM
1

You’re not living in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:15 PM
1

how?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 10:07 PM
2

"issues" doesn't mean you confuse neglect with love? do you think there is like one mental health problem everyone experiences the same way? I don't understand this thinking that because you personally don't experience something it... doesn't exist? what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:40 PM
1

It’s not hipocracy if it’s not unequal. You keep saying it’s equal w no proof. Just your feelings and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:18 PM
1

Yes people tend to not want to get sucked into explaining that the planet is round to flat earthers
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:12 PM
1

Expectations are not reality
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:55 PM
1

That never happened
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:55 PM
2

Yeah that’s why I didn’t waste time explaining the concept for you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:44 PM
1

Why tho? Is money the only exchange of labor happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:41 PM
1

You don’t have sex after dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:35 PM
9

That me saying “Nick raped me” is considered a harsher thing to do than Nick actually raping me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:34 PM
2

No if they did the wouldn’t be rude or cruel or lose interest right after
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:34 PM
7

You also probable received healthy attachments with your caregivers growing up and that’s why you can’t relate to mistaking neglect for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:33 PM
17

No it makes me lose interest The addiction unhealthy women get to dismissive men Comes after those men have pursued them. Gamblers wouldn’t go to a casino were they lose every hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:32 PM
1

Right. I’m not trying to prove to an adult oppression exists. If you think everyone is equal you’re an idiot or a troll and I’m not wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:29 PM
1

Because they are concepts that take more than a sentence to explain and you are an obvious troll
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:23 PM
1

Then what are you saying
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:22 PM
0

Ask a parent or teacher for help
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:02 PM
1

I feel like you’re saying equality means we have to have sex with all men whether we want to or they are even nice to us or not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:01 PM
1

What
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:30 AM
2

well that's dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:50 AM
–

Then you are just trolling me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:25 AM
1

Idk how that’s relevant Your friend is playing you. This happens so often it is a trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:22 AM
1

Which viewpoint?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:18 AM
1

Sure. But chad usually enjoys the attention. I didn’t say women don’t chase chads. I said most women are going to be respectful and stop if you tell her you don’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:43 AM
1

I don’t know what you are calling arguing vs debating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:32 AM
1

In a debate sub you can go back and forth? It’s not a personal attack to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:03 AM
1

he never hid his cards he just presented them along with pursuing women which is mixed signals. it's not "chivalry" to just be decent to people. of course you aren't obligated to be decent but if you aren't and people then say "that guy is slimey" you can't complain... you can't expect people to lie to not hurt your feelings after you've done nothing but be rude to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:54 AM
1

i dont understand what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:52 AM
-2

Right. In that situation you can politely say “I had fun but I’m not interested in seeing you again”. Your friend is playing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:47 AM
0

If they sucked you can just break up w someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:37 AM
-5

Right. What could they possibly say “how dare you” if he didn’t play them? You are literally describing him being shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:32 AM
1

Right. What could they possibly say “how dare you” if he didn’t play them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:32 AM
1

That’s what he says. If he just communicated clearly I’m sure he’d have a lot fewer misunderstandings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:11 AM
-2

I’m not sure how it could “impact” the study it’s literally part of the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:57 PM
1

That’s where consent comes in. No man who doesn’t want to pay for me has to. See how that works?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:56 PM
-1

And some are asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:44 PM
1

I’m not valuable to you, some sick guy on the internet. Im gonna stay in the real world where every human has inherent dignity and value. Men on apps are strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:43 PM
1

No he’s not? I didn’t ask him to. I don’t know if I want him. I am doing him a favor by seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:32 PM
0

How It seems like now you’re assuming all 3% are asexual so some of them having sex means none of them are asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:17 PM
2

So you would want us all to agree that shaming people is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:17 PM
1

If I am on a date because a man asked me, not because I wanted to go enough to ask him and organize it, I am giving something already. How would men meet me halfway in your world?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:15 PM
2

Do you know how numbers work? 1% is not a lot. However if we are already down to the 3% of men not having sex, 1% of men being asexual is going to be overrepresented in that 3%. By your estimate 1/3 of male virgins are asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:47 PM
1

that's your perception because you think money is the only thing men have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:44 PM
1

i have no idea why you are telling me this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:28 PM
4

>Most men are heterosexual and want to have sex. which is why most of them do? you're talking about the 3% of men who don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:26 PM
1

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:01 PM
2

Sure. I don’t think it’s very common but I’d never say it doesn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:00 PM
2

offer to pay for therapy and understand that i failed as a parent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:52 PM
3

how many of those men are asexual or not interested or unable to have sex? The percentage is so small to begin with those outliers may make up a large number of older male virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:46 PM
1

not sure how any of this is relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:45 PM
2

It's not even men that are the enemy, it's toxic masculinity. If you think you have to be an asshole to yourself and others because "hurr durr survival of the fittest" you are hurting your health and the health of other men. Just let people be human beings and a lot of our problems will go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:40 PM
2

Yes, vulnerable people uphold systems of oppression because that is the only safety many of them can get. If you think vulnerable people oppress themselves please read literally any book.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:39 PM
4

why is this response so misanthropic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:38 PM
2

>This got me thinking some of the most powerful and successful men throughout history have been polyamorous Or... does having a bunch of free slaves make you more likely to be successful because you can devote all your time and energy to work while a harem of women handle all your other needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:37 PM
2

not sure how thats relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:33 PM
1

why ask someone on a date if your concern is "how do i give them as little as possible while taking what i want from them". That's so fucked up and disturbing that y'all think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:33 PM
1

in what way
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:32 PM
0

It grosses me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:41 PM
9

I don’t think women would chase men who are expressing disinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:40 PM
1

Then why are you in a debate sub arguing w me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:12 PM
1

You can invalidate my feelings all you want to it won’t change the fact that they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:12 PM
1

And I’m not willing to ignore the reality that some abusive relationships exist and need to be accounted for when we’re talking about relationship dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:26 AM
1

Yes? She’s describing what y’all say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:12 AM
1

Yeah that’s wildly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:38 AM
1

Yes. You are conflating abuser as it is used in these kinds of conversation w a person who acts poorly in the course of being an imperfect human.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:36 AM
0

what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:14 AM
1

that's not what abuser means.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:13 AM
0

Yes? Those aren’t misanthropic. You are so used to it you don’t even know what I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:27 AM
1

Oh. Ok. You don’t know what the fuck people are talking about when they say an abuser. My bad. I assumed you wouldn’t pretend to understand something to be argumentative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:12 AM
1

If that was true everyone would be an abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:38 AM
1

Why would you want someone to take responsibility for how YOU treat them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:19 AM
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This is how I know men aren’t too dumb to understand sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:18 AM
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That’s fair but the time to bring that shit up isn’t before you say “what a piece of shit I’m sorry he abused you, are you okay?”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:17 AM
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That’s abuser logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:16 AM
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And only abusers are responsible for abusing people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:13 AM
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No? You said it in a scary way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:12 AM
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I don’t know any woman that has only dated really attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:59 AM
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Nope. I am an adult and responsible for my actions. I know when I need to take a break. I don’t abuse people and them blame them for my actions. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:58 AM
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Not really. The misanthropy and vitriol is a really male thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:57 AM
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Men are so fuckin weird. Like this thought process is so sad and scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:32 AM
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A guy could enable me and I still wouldn’t abuse him. That’s a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:31 AM
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You realize abusers select for vulnerable people and lie right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:30 AM
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Do you talk to your dad the abuser?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:30 AM
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Lmfao a man could provoke me all day and I wouldn’t abuse him. That’s a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:29 AM
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No it’s not? Have you ever read abuse literature? It figures prominently.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:27 AM
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We all try to do that? But y’all bring up what victims do wrong every time anyone talks about their trauma it’s weird. Like why can’t you just listen and support people instead of centering yourself spinning out and thinking about how you can avoid it happening to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:27 AM
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Is always false and is mostly perpetrated by abusers and abused people themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:25 AM
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The victim is never to blame. Without an abuser there is no abuse. A dumb male could walk up to me and hint that I could manipulate him into draining his bank account and I wouldn’t bc abuse is not something I want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:25 AM
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Maybe she likes pda with guys she feels connected to and doesn’t like pda w randoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:23 AM
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Lmao no
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:22 AM
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Lmao how many women do you think hire male escorts 😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:22 AM
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I can’t relate. I always valued the people I dated. I didn’t treat them poorly bc someone treated me poorly. If I couldn’t treat someone well I wouldn’t date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:21 AM
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Who is lying
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:20 AM
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Not sure how that’s not being covered by men saying being committed to a woman is a drag for the last half century.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:46 PM
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Do you think those relationships aren’t common? Or somehow don’t exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:45 PM
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Speak for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:24 PM
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Yeah I’m im not demonizing dating someone hotter than you I’m demonizing abuse and violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:23 PM
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the very idea of having a back up plan means the destination is the goal, not your means of getting there
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:22 PM
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*you arent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:06 PM
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Most men don’t tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:06 PM
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What tower
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:05 PM
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Unfortunately my mortgage company doesn’t accept my ideals as payment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:49 PM
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Because I a suspicious instead of immediately accepting?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:48 PM
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Yes it is. The ideal is a good life whatever you have to do to get there. The ideal isn’t having a man even if he beats you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:33 AM
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I’m not invalidating it. This is a third hand account. I’m suspicious bc of how men can manipulate women into thinking we need to put their needs above our own and how many people are in unhealthy relationships w trauma bonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:32 AM
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There’s literally not a sex organ there unless you are male?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:40 AM
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Yes it was. I went through that work and your still avoiding a very obvious and universally recognized fact of life. That’s why I was trying not to have to spoon feed it to you. I’m not trying to debate reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:55 AM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:19 AM
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No? I am saying a widely acknowledged truth about something that has been around forever? Here is the first one I found in under one second: “ An article in Le Monde diplomatique in 1997 stated that 80% of prostitutes in Amsterdam were foreigners and 70% had no immigration papers.[121]”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:06 AM
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Women overwhelmingly support pro choice candidates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:03 AM
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Well men pass the laws that decide whether people live or die all the time? Men withhold health insurance from their employees all the time. How is that not murder?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:36 AM
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Ok… that’s what I said in the comment you responded to? People absolutely study why women turn to sex work? Literally just open the article and skim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:35 AM
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You did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:06 AM
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Oh you think I said most women are desperate prostitutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:06 AM
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So you admit you’re just advocating for men to murder their children for recreation? 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:02 AM
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Again and again and again In the article it points out different ways women turn to sex work out of desperation. If you even skimmed it you would have seen several specific examples. 😳😳😳
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:01 AM
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But not all women can get abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:58 AM
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She did attain it. The standard of life is the goal. She got it by one means or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:57 AM
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Well it’s your child and children can’t survive without being cared for that’s murder
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:46 AM
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I don’t agree
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:45 AM
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That is why men invented marriage so you might be right
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:45 AM
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Yeah of course? Cheating is wrong regardless of gender
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:44 AM
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I don’t really get how you’re getting there 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:44 AM
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I can’t read an comprehend a basic overview for you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:43 AM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:06 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:02 AM
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She wants a quality of life. She gets it one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:41 AM
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Again pls stop moving the goalposts. I am speaking about general sex workers not escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:14 AM
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Yes? I’m not talking about just trafficked. You said you aren’t desperate. That’s a privilege most don’t have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:04 AM
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The vast majority do. I am happy for the people who are privileged enough not to but they don’t represent the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:55 AM
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I don’t think most women accept that. Most men accept womanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:54 AM
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Sure is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:53 AM
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yes, which is why you get called a gold digger for wanting to be able to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:12 AM
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they literally can't be unrealistic since the major point of FDS is that you have to be okay being alone rather than lower your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:11 AM
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and it says whats?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:54 AM
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i mean, you know it costs like $3,000 in medical bills to have a baby here, right? And that's after you pay hundreds of dollars per month in your premium.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:52 AM
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yes that is how it has worked since dating started?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:51 AM
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uh you've been advocating for men to "murder" children because "women do it" for like an hour. "Infanticide (or infant homicide) is the intentional killing of infants or offspring. Infanticide was a widespread practice throughout human history that was mainly used to dispose of unwanted children,[1]: 61 its main purpose the prevention of resources being spent on weak or disabled offspring. Unwanted infants were normally abandoned to die of exposure, but in some societies they were deliberately k…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:32 AM
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because you have data on fds users? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:30 AM
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no? committment means you have a conversation and both agree to be boyfriend/girlfriend. Usually you decide to be exclusive but you could also decide to stay open. But that's when you're in a relationship. not sure how you're gonna be in an open relationship when you aren't even in a a relationship. i would never in my LIFEEEEEE assume that living with a guy or dating for a year meant were "in a relationship" lmao this sub would cackle for YEARS if a woman assumed she was in a relationship with …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:12 AM
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no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:09 AM
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well i believe in abortion because i'm not superstitious and i think it's wrong to have a child you can't care for? An idea that has been accepted by cultures all around the world until the republican party started to politicize it in the 70s. you are the only one advocating for people to murder babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:09 AM
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consent has to be freely given. if a sex worker were freely giving consent you wouldn't have to bribe her with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:58 PM
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well i am a big proponent of consent so no guy is ever gonna be forced to have sex or commit to me. Feel pretty good about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:56 PM
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ding ding ding someone not consenting is a great line to draw. i do not think the majority of sex workers are consenting. Many of them are trafficked which is the extreme opposite of consenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:55 PM
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telling men they are "boys" if they don't act how you think they should act is creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:54 PM
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right... which is why "innocent" men are extremely rare. The definition of innocent doesn't change just because it's rare in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:54 PM
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I'm agreeing with you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:53 PM
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There’s no equivalent for men, therefore prostitution (in the modern era) is always a choice. That doesn't follow. There’s nothing morally wrong with buying a service that someone is providing hit men provide a service. is it morally wrong to hire a hit man? Shall I call you a piece of shit for going through a McDonald’s drive-through when theres a poor single mother there? i certainly think the person who owns mcdonalds who puts poor people in that situation where they are so underpaid a large …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:41 PM
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look at the comment i replied to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:39 PM
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> It's a combination of the sunk cost fallacy and women's sex drive declining as the relationship continues. Sexual compatibility doesn't happen all at once. You think investing more in the relationship will reignite your sex life. It won't. yeah none of that is real life though? i dont even think women's sex "drive" is a thing. that implies its just there at a base level accessible for whatever man is there. It's not. I want to have sex to express my feelings physically. it's an act of love. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:38 PM
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I mean that's wrong? but i'm not gonna fight to stay at an insane workplace that doesn't want me? Is that what you would do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:32 PM
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would you buy a kidney from a man who wanted to sell you one of his to feed his family because that was the best way he could get money to do that? I wouldn't. That's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:31 PM
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right, so you don't like women. That's why guys need to be upfront about their intentions instead of doing all this other goofy shit. we agree there!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:30 PM
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yes, i am glad you agree women tend to be givers and men tend to be takers? its really rare for a PPD man to admit to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:30 PM
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> What we DO Have a problem with is "I Love doing X and did X with 15 guys before, but I will not do X with you". Because that's "I was hot for those guys; but I am not hot for you." i guess i can't figure out this relationship. if she is indeed a healthy adult that was fully consenting in the past. what changed? if she doesn't actually like you, that's a reason to not be with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:29 PM
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are you saying employers should be forced to employ people they don't want to? i dont have time to play hall monitor to the world. lots of things are wrong. i can't spend 24/7 correcting everyone who misunderstands something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:28 PM
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and you are advocating for men to as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:24 PM
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ok? then i would move on with my life because that's a stupid thing to say. I don't respect the reasoning so it doesn't affect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:24 PM
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we aren't talking about escorts, we're talking about general sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:23 PM
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you keeps saying it's not about the things that probably caused her to say the thing you say its about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:22 PM
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every penis is too big for anal. unless you're a dude and have a prostate back there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:21 PM
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yeah nice guys are NOT innocent. they watch porn and are feigning friendship with you for sex. That's shady and gross, not wholesome or innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:20 PM
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I am firmly in the camp of free speech. You should be allowed to say whatever you want and not be fined or punished by law for it. Your own words. Clearly you don't care about free speech, you care about protecting hate speech. Im against censorship of any all kinds. I'm against the criminalising of speech in general. Im also against misinformation. But misinformation (THESE CRYSTALS WILL CURE COVID) is different from (omg you said something racist, GO TO JAIL). who is going to jail for saying s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:15 PM
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Ok. I just think the reason talking to women seems like a chore is because… you don’t want to talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:06 PM
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I would ask why they said that? It’s not the boogeyman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:05 PM
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What? Men can have consensual sex with other women all they want? No, I do not think it is the burden of the vulnerable populations that make up the majority of sex workers to console men who are on the cusp of raping women? Tf?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:04 PM
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It’s wrong to take advantage of someone’s need to survive to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:03 PM
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Men who have an innocent vibe are extremely rare
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:02 PM
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And? Are men that scared of someone’s opinion that they can’t do what they prefer? They need universal love and adoration?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:56 PM
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If it’s a baby why are you telling men to abandon them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:55 PM
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I can agree with that. However there is absolutely something wrong with buying sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:55 PM
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i've never fucked someone who wasnt friendly to me? how would we even start talking?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:47 PM
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if you don't wanna talk to someone, it kinda seems like you don't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:46 PM
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who is forcing men to ask out high n count women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:46 PM
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I am firmly in the camp of free speech. You should be allowed to say whatever you want and not be fined or punished by law for it. So do you perform activism against laws banning "fire" in a crowded theater? Or libel and slander laws? Are you fighting Facebook for removing flat tummy tea weightloss pseudoscience in the past few years? > You should be allowed to say what you want to matter how sexist or racist or homophobic. You won't be immune to the social consequences (being fired, being ostra…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:45 PM
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I’m completely lost on what you’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:30 PM
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What? Being a John isn’t a red flag because you “give money away” it’s a red flag because it’s gross to have sex with a woman who is desperate enough to sell sex. White middle class girls on only fans is not the reality of the vast majority of real life prostitution and I run the fuck away from men comfortable using those women for their nut.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:27 PM
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Commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:20 PM
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that's just dating though? that's not an open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:13 PM
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well only 40% of adults in the US reach the age of 18 with a healthy attachment system in place from their upbringing. So to start with, at least 60% of people need to do some kind of work to heal those wounds before they would be able to maintain a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:12 PM
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what gender populates the PUA community?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:11 PM
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I was referring to how many food service shift workers are on OLD (i'm 36, obviously if you are in your 20s its different) I think income inequality is terrible so on one hand I'm not trying to be like "ew poors". For me, it only becomes a no when it seems like I would have to be mommy if i wanted a life with the guy. Like if he doesn't have a stable place to live that he keeps in good condition and I can't take that on. It ruins any sexual energy because it's replaced by mommy energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:09 PM
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are you talking about friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:07 PM
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do you mean dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:06 PM
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again, you seem to be advocating what you define as murder and it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:06 PM
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It sounds like maybe you don't like women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:05 PM
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to the screaming angry bitter feminists. where are those? Because I see the men and I see a variety of women who sometimes say shitty things, but no screaming women and no one who is really pushing feminism onto others? Unless you mean that they personally want to be treated as an equal by the men they allow around them? > Nah. She wanted variety too and wasn't too keen on monogamy as a concept. She's mentioned she'd happily have a third committed relationship with a man but said she may not be …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:04 PM
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> Men are far more possessive of women than the reverse. No they aren't? The stereotype of men is that they are commitment-phobic and want to be "free". The stereotype of women is they are desperate to be committed to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:47 PM
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That makes sense, I am 36 so I haven't dealt with virginity culture in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:46 PM
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a low wage job is not a stable adult, no. fat people can be stable adults, i don't mind fatness but I included it because men on this sub think its a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:40 PM
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" the interest in anal specifically was either due to porn or hearing that it felt good." We are saying the same thing. They are not motivated by women's pleasure or even health or safety! Maybe those men don't go so far as to get off directly on pain, but porn certainly draws a connection between female pain and male pleasure in about 75% of all pornography so their brains ARE wired that way from years and then decades of porn. There’s also the rare occurrence of the “my girl wanted to save PiV…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:39 PM
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it absolutely means many mothers will decide to terminate because it costs a significant amount of money to raise a child while at the same time raising a child means you are limited in your earning potential. If the women do give birth, the father is abandoning his child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:36 PM
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no? I have never in my life heard someone advocate for more women to become serial killers or rapists so that the numbers are equal between men and women. This is probably the first time I've ever heard someone casually advocate for murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:19 PM
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You're saying there is something inherent about men that makes them liars and manipulators?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:12 PM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:12 PM
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so then the problem is that they are codependent. not that they did something with an ex they wouldn't do with their current. no matter what else is going on, that's an unhealthy, toxic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:12 PM
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if you really feel that way, you wouldn't want men to do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:09 PM
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Often there's a lot more communication involved and they do their best to make sure everyone's needs are fulfilled. I haven't ever met a man capable of this though? Esp on PPD men act like communicating and meeting needs is a huge burden with one partner. You are telling me they suddenly become capable and willing to do this when they have multiple partners? I just don't really buy it. "I've met a polycule where the woman didn't do ONS but had two committed (and aware of each other men!). " Do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:07 PM
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I dont think that's liking someone more. And I have no idea why you'd be in a relationship w someone you aren't as attracted to as your ex. Why bother? Is this men getting a placeholder/forever girlfriend and projecting? Because I can't see why you'd date someone you aren't even really attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:01 PM
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I think men and women would both benefit from this. We just need to also tackle aspects of social conditioning (toxic masculinity) that make some percentage of men poor partners for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:00 PM
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its hard to follow because you are using "murder" incorrectly but if you really think that is happening, there are only two reasons you would then advocate for men to join in: You don't actually think it's murder and you're just being belligerent and trolling. You are a misanthropic violent sadist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:50 PM
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oh yeah 100% FDS is a very american thing? Lots of men with low wage jobs in the dating pool which would be fine maybe if men wanted to contribute in ways women have contributed to relationships while working low wage jobs or being a stay at home parent/spouse: managing the household, raising children, being emotionally intimate and nurturing to their partner. But since that is coded as feminine, men don't want to do that either. It's the worst of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:48 PM
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well men, not people since the vast majority of the time the man is the one hitting/strangling/hurting and the woman is the one receiving the hurt. I don't know if it is motivated by sadism as much as porn and being able to tell their buddies or even just *imagine* telling their buddies what they "got" a girl to do because it boosts their ego and affirms their masculinity (because of the toxic way we allow masculinity to be defined right now).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:46 PM
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aren't 80% of divorced initiated by women? wouldn't that lead you to believe women are comfortable leaving relationships if they are "checked out" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:40 PM
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to you. which is maybe why you personally shouldn't reproduce, especially if you are openly advocating murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:40 PM
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haha even general stats about US citizens show that is not true. Most americans are overweight and live paycheck to paycheck. Only 40% of adults have a healthy attachment by the time they reach adulthood and because we socialize men to think self-development is gay they are hit even harder than women by not having a healthy nervous system.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:39 PM
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so why would women bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:37 PM
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that's so toxic. imaging thinking giving someone more information would make them not want to have sex with you and deciding to conceal information.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:30 PM
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All the time? And it's not "talking their way out of it", it's revealing their personality. It is okay and health and normal to reject someone whose personality you don't like? That's just dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:30 PM
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i've never experienced being in a relationship with someone where i liked an ex more? generally by the time you get to a relationship you think the person is great? maybe a one night stand/fwb i would like less than an ex, but what do you expect in that situation? You're just a random to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:29 PM
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i feel like women not enjoying it is a big draw in a lot of these acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:28 PM
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It really sounds like you are saying "other men raped her so that's why you aren't having sex with her. If you want sex, you have to rape her too."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:27 PM
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seems like you've never been in a relationship or you are young. fluctuation in sex drive is normal. it ebbs and flows throughout life based on what else is going on, biology, health and other life factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:26 PM
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I dont think FDS want a super alpha the way red pillers want a mindless virgin bride. When i was in FDS people wanted a stable adult, but generally a real person that shares interests w them vs a one-dimmensional characiture.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:25 PM
8

if women were taught this from childhood, that love isn't real and men are just imperfect humans who are socialized to not be interested in giving you the emotional intimacy seen in art/movies/music, so much abuse would be avoided. I also think we'd see the current trend of women deciding to just stop dating because it's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:24 PM
2

I am blown away that you think abortion is murder and your solution is more murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:21 PM
6

again, i really doubt most open relationships are proposed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:20 PM
1

who is murdering children? and you are saying you want men to be murdering children too? what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:37 PM
4

what "culture" has women initiating most open relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:37 PM
5

because many women want more than sex. sex is easy to find whether you are single or in a relationship. men have a hard time showing up in a relationship with ONE woman. When that time and energy starts being spread between multiple women it's less than a fraction of what humans need to meet their need for companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:37 PM
10

i really doubt most open relationships are proposed by women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:27 PM
9

its common for married men to secretly be on tinder claiming they have an open relationship i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:26 PM
5

they aren't fair for women so if men don't like them that's good for everyone. lets just not do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:26 PM
1

not sure how that tracks lol, you can't "abort" a living child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:25 PM
2

yeah of course because when i tried it it wasn't fun why would i keep trying something i didn't enjoy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:11 PM
1

this is so creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:10 PM
1

because women don't want to take rights away from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:10 PM
-1

Guns would be an equalizer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:35 PM
-1

The joke went over your head
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:34 AM
-3

Net contributors to the murder rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:58 AM
1

I’m not negotiating on how this makes men unattractive lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:59 AM
0

And more time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:41 AM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:40 AM
1

And yet you’re spending your time doubling down on it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:35 AM
1

Yikes. Can’t relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:50 PM
1

Different phrasing’s have different subtle meanings that’s how language works. Ask a parent or teacher for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:41 PM
2

Obviously. Got the earring disorder to show for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:40 PM
1

Men on this very sub call women complaining about men bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:40 PM
3

Any conversation. “Wanna watch scream 4 tonight?” “Hayden panettiere was so much hotter before she had short hair”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:19 PM
-1

What? I hate throw pillows. I’m not a boomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:13 PM
0

So you were trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:11 PM
3

It’s gross and irrelevant. If someone asks you or you’re talking to your buddies great. But men do this in all kinds of conversations w strangers and it’s creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:11 PM
-1

I’m mocking men who insist on using phrases like buck up and ignore that it has co sequences like male suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:10 PM
-1

I wouldn’t trust a man who said that 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:09 PM
1

👍
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:08 PM
-1

What
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:08 PM
2

No? Bringing your genitals feelings into a conversation not about your genitals feelings is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:08 PM
4

I would say I want men not to lie more than I want them to be honest. Y’all know how to weaponize “honesty” to just insult people and you get a creepy amount of glee from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:07 PM
9

I judge by my standards. Not someone else’s standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:05 PM
1

Ok? Men get turned off by everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:04 PM
1

Again, he is saying he’s debunked it so ask the user saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:03 PM
-5

Yes. It is insane how entitled men feel to insert their penis into conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:32 PM
1

Ask u/maplehobo he says he has debunked them. I was just pointing out they wouldn’t count male and female divorces differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:30 PM
4

Again I'm not saying men "don't have any standards" they're just much lower in contrast to what women want, which is why these women think they bring more to the table Because women are going by THEIR standards of what THEY want. Not mens. It's fine that men want to live in filth. We don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:21 PM
11

men thinking women are cunts says more about the man than it does about the woman. a shitty man thinks all women are cunts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:20 PM
0

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8485292_The_Heroism_of_Women_and_Men Yes, and women do things that are difficult over time, not just one quick thing in front of everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:19 PM
-1

read your post. No healthy person wants a partner who thinks like this. This is exactly what women mean when we say men are not evolving and women are leaving them behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:18 PM
1

i mean i dont know shit about male bodies... but that's also why i dont announce that i want men to look a certain way? i feel like part of the problem is men just announce what makes their peepee go up or down and we as a society have been silent about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:17 PM
-2

men say this constantly? if you go to the gym they announce that their peepee doesn't like girls with muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:16 PM
8

women and men are obese at similar rates and breadwinners at nearly similar rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:15 PM
3

nstead of being even a little concerned for the decline of the people who protected you and provided for you, now you say you don't need them so they need to offer you more. Women are the ones who do talk about how men need to be able to be vulnerable and toxic masculinity is hurting men and boys. Unless by showing concern you mean "fucking us and shutting up".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:15 PM
-4

thats not how human communication works for either gender. sorry bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:13 PM
-1

it counts divorced women the same way as divorced men...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:12 PM
0

lmfao less than 1% of rapists ever spend a day in jail but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:12 PM
0

what do the women in relationships complain about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:11 PM
-2

do men not get government benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:11 PM
1

"Some people just don't have a life worth engaging in so they retreat to fantasy (drawing, reading fiction, video games, drugs)." it sounds like you understand exactly what I was saying with my original comment then? Obviously thats not a person whose life you want to hitch to your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:55 PM
1

I love to read. I know the difference between reading as a healthy hobby and times when I don't want to engage in life and binge ready shitty mystery novels to the extent that I start neglecting relationships, meal times, sleep hygeine, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:29 PM
1

Neutrality favors the people hurting others 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:24 PM
2

Bc they are gaslighting you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:58 PM
1

Not commenting on the morality is def commenting on it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:58 PM
5

Loyalty was the right word for you to use
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:03 PM
2

Everything is astrology in drag.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:43 PM
1

It’s def not natural to lie for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:42 PM
1

Which means they are lying if they only give you the answer they think you want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:41 PM
7

Sorry you got gaslit into thinking this isn’t the definition of loyalty…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:39 PM
1

It’s masculine to beat people up and feminine to get beat up. If a guy is worried about his masculinity he can prove it via cruel practices like violence or using women for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:18 PM
1

Women can also be addicted to things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:08 AM
0

They would be a racist for weaponizing those stats against black people when those stats aren’t created in a vaccum. Men aren’t violent in a vaccum either, that’s why violence is different by culture. Our culture encourages men to be cruel and violent and silences victims. I’m all for fixing those things. Just like I wouldn’t leave my car running in the hood because we have withheld security from black people and it results in stealing, male insecurity results in aggression. I don’t need to be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:05 AM
2

When you just play games instead of feeling your feelings and you pretty much aren’t alive in your life anymore just shuffle around until you can game more. Same as any addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:02 AM
1

It doesn’t matter if it’s silly to you. I’m allowed to not reach out and touch a stove without checking it out first if I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 12:00 AM
2

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 11:15 PM
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Nope because the stats don’t show women being rapists and murderers. If he’s joining to meet the love of his life and have a great healthy life w her great. But more likely he’s looking for a supply of women to run through w no regard for their health or wellbeing. Idk why you’re surprised we aren’t into that happening to us?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 11:00 PM
2

No? I def assume stoves are hot. I also assume all guns are loaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:58 PM
1

If men acted like that we’d have no issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:41 PM
2

Yes? If I don’t touch the hot stove at your house it’s not bc your stove has burned me before it’s bc I’ve leaved stoves are hot and they hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:40 PM
5

I didn’t say never game I said numbing emotions via gaming addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:39 PM
2

Consider being less predatory and maybe your presence won’t make people leave
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:03 PM
1

Sure. Not sure what that has to do w providing. Putting down your partner is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 08:03 PM
1

I don’t get what’s bad about providing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 07:03 PM
3

And then they should learn about times it’s been put into practice and if everyone at the top is a sadist maybe reconsider.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:00 PM
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If the people who are most into a belief system are toxic assholes, yeah that says something. Were the teachings of Jim jones good other than the whole Jonestown thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:40 PM
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No? I would have sex w zero of them wtf? I’m not agreeing to sex bc of a photo. He could be gross and creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:38 PM
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Anger is an emotion. We don’t like guys who punch holes in the wall. We want men who are not numbing their feelings w alcohol, porn, gaming, or addiction to manipulating people. And adult who can process their feelings and is sometimes overwhelmed by them is healthy and the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:37 PM
1

No idea what you’re saying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:36 PM
2

Which means a large percentage of men are not doing it. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:34 PM
1

But if they aren’t into it it’s rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:17 PM
1

What is mean spirited about not wanting to have sex w someone who doesn’t want to have sex w me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:05 PM
2

Relationships don’t appear out of thin air. If you ask a woman out, she is going to think you like her enough to not be a piece of shit to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:04 PM
1

I don’t? I’m order for a man to date me he has pursued me and asked me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:04 PM
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I don’t think I’ve ever dated a man who thought like this. I don’t get it. Providing for the people I love is one of the best feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:42 PM
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Well yeah. That’s called a committed relationship. That’s when you know and trust someone bc over time they are good, even if you’re going through a rough patch. You can’t give commited relationship benefits to random men who are pursuing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:40 PM
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I mean am I dating a cardboard box? It doesn’t matter if he thinks he’s a good boyfriend. It matters if he actually shows up and is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:39 PM
2

😂😂😂😂 “Women should just know men are pieces of shit even though they cry about not all men being pieces of shit constantly”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:38 PM
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The idea of being w a guy who isn’t head over heels into me gives me the Icks. Is it even consensual? Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 10:37 PM
2

Predatory and scary
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:41 PM
3

This is a good example of the “poisoning the well” fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:41 PM
2

Nope. Social media is full of hot women saying the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:13 PM
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And yet so many men in this sub will tell you it’s only the resources they care about. Can’t pretend it’s not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:08 AM
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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8tkHd2C/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:35 AM
7

Women saying broke men don’t deserve pussy vs men saying women deserve rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:41 AM
2

Social media is full of attractive women saying the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:40 AM
2

Intimate partner violence is common in relationships in the us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:19 AM
4

Yes they sometimes are. In less numbers and in less severity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:18 AM
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I have no idea what top men are. Like one what planet would a human being want to think that way 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:11 AM
6

It’s not a both sides issue when one side murders the other twice as often
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:09 AM
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Uh yeah women aren’t perfect? Men are allowed to complain about women. But it’s dehumanizing and misogynistic. That’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:08 AM
0

Doesn’t compute. If I’m not into my partner we’re not having sex more than once. If I am into them I’m into them? Each bf I have been more into than the last there isn’t more or less once it’s at that level it’s a 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:25 AM
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It never did when I was a pick me I was like oh let me prove how accepting I am! Now it def would be bc I feel that he’s weaponizing it and making it my problem when I can’t control how HE feels. He needs to do that on his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:23 AM
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That’s the point. Men don’t want us. Yet they will pursue us and lie about it for decades and make us feel like a burden when the problem is y’all don’t and never did want us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:18 AM
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It makes it hard for men to manipulate you and extract resources from you. That’s it. That’s why they hate it. They wish you would just shut up and accept the poor living conditions men offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:17 AM
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Because it’s not about going their own way. It’s about controlling women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:15 AM
1

I don’t buy it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:36 AM
2

According to some guy on a dating sub
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:33 AM
1

I am
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 11:10 PM
7

Lol men lie for sex so frequently they don’t realize they are doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 10:07 PM
12

Are men ever not playing tho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 10:00 PM
1

Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:59 PM
23

If you’re getting played by spending time w them it’s already not a fit. If it’s a burden to date them… don’t date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:39 PM
6

No high value human prioritizes their nut over someone’s well being.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:39 PM
2

I think you two are trolling? Or are you really confused?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:32 PM
1

Lol plenty of bitter husbands in the world Wonder which gender CREATES the mlms. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:30 PM
0

So some other women said something you’re bitter about and you’re taking it out on me for no reason. Sounds like the logical gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:51 PM
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Because overcoming irrational fear of risk is good. Pretending a likely consequence won’t happen to you is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:32 PM
0

Because I called out a troll comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:12 PM
1

Are you asking me to explain it to you or just gaslighting?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:12 PM
2

Not doing something bc of real consequences and not doing something bc of an unlikely fear are not similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:11 PM
-1

Troll comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:49 PM
1

Men hoard other resources from other men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:48 PM
0

Not really. Being afraid of the world ending so I keep all my savings in cash buried in the back yard and being afraid bc rape is common so I’m not alone w men I don’t trust are pretty different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:48 PM
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Well yeah I’m not a mind reader. If a guy treats me well and asks me out I’m haven’t assumed “oh he is lying for sex” because the idea of doing that to someone is horrifying. I didn’t think it was so ubiquitous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:46 PM
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Those are two very different things. Being afraid of getting my feelings hurt and being afraid of real, common violent crime are too dissimilar to be grouped together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:02 PM
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Not really. Men raping and abusing me is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:50 PM
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Just a rude way for men to justify manipulating women and side w abusers who bait and switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:50 PM
1

Nope. Cheaters are low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:49 PM
3

We live in a hierarchical society created by men in which fake scarcity has been created so you can’t be at the bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:46 PM
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Most of you only see women as holes and tell us constantly sex means nothing and you’ll have sex w women you don’t even like. Just trying to have sex w a group of people socialized to please you is way harder than trying to form a relationship w a group of people socialized to lie to you for sex. I’m sure it’s hard and painful at times but it’s not a both sides issue. Those men who ARE looking for a relationship are also happy to string women along while they keep looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:43 PM
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Yes. That’s part of what makes it harassment? The fact that it is unwanted. Women didn’t emerge from the womb being afraid of men approaching them on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:38 PM
1

I only lose power by being in proximity for men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:36 PM
1

They can see the state of the world and how women have to tell the difference between them and the porn brains? A catch doesn’t want you to endanger yourself for their benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:22 PM
1

It’s vastly preferable to what men consider valuable. I guess that’s why it’s called a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:22 AM
-1

Men think it’s gay to have feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:29 AM
0

We are saying the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:07 AM
0

Those are obviously two different things. Op says x You say y
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 04:07 AM
1

That’s not my logic. Women commenters have a wider variety of responses here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:47 AM
0

Well yeah, I’m order to survive in a hierarchical society. But women organize themselves more cooperatively while men organize hierarchically.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:47 AM
1

So you’re saying “op really means this other thing where you marry someone you haven’t vetted”? I don’t but it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 01:06 AM
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No? I literally said write what you know. Plenty of men know women well enough to write them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 01:05 AM
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Don't. Write what you know. The reason there are so many poorly written female characters is that men who don't actually know women enough to view them as whole human beings try to write them and they just fall flat because they can't capture something they don't know anything about. Just write a bro action story for bros. It will be higher quality creative content.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:57 AM
2

If for example you always mock their insecurities or withhold sex, they’ll start to score points against you. if anyone mocks your insecurities that should be the last time you hang out with them. both men and women need to be taught boundaries like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:56 AM
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men get all of the downsides in dating See, my perspective is women carry all the risk of dating and are groomed to cater to men. Men have to pursue women and meet their standards... that's a lot less than what women are doing. And men get a woman out of it -- someone who generally cooks, cleans and nurtures. Women get a man out of it -- i know men here think men protect and provide but in my experience men don't do that because women are groomed to be pick mes and say YOU DON"T HAVE TO DO THAT …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:55 AM
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"intentionally keeping someone at arms length for multiple years, " multiple years isn't someone seeing if they want to date you. that person just isn't interested in being friends or having a relationship with you. "even into a marriage" what? OP is saying stuff that happens before any kind of romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:50 AM
0

"there’s enough murders with groupies" you're describing a paraphilia. more women than men have this particular paraphilia but more men have paraphilias in general. so women have to deal with the same shit, but in bigger numbers. a paraphilia is a known bad thing in a partner, no one is saying people w paraphilias are high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:48 AM
2

thats a lot of baggage you're holding on to
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:48 AM
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I never said you weren't what men consider high value. I'm not arguing with you about that. I'm saying you don't speak for the men who women consider high value. You're just one person talking about what works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:47 AM
0

not really
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:46 AM
3

Right, it doesn't impact the strategy because you're getting both kinds of bad guys out. But it is relevant for this sub! A lot of men don't understand this!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:29 AM
1

I’m describing how I act and say it’s a trauma response bc I have been reading about what’s wrong w me for a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:22 AM
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Sure they are. That’s why they get addicted to playing games w women or coke and alcohol — all ubiquitous among the men men consider high value (rich, hot, good at talking to women).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:21 AM
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It’s relevant bc those men see themselves as good guys bc they would treat their hypothetical perfect gf right. Meanwhile to other men they are “bad boys” bc they mistreat the women they run through while waiting to be able to attract their perfect girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:14 AM
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But lots of dudes will treat you like shit that will treat other women w respect. So for those men it is a trick. I agree w this strategy, again. I just think it says a lot about men, and it’s not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:04 AM
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ok. you're one person who is on a dicey internet forum, i don't think you're the speaker for HVM. also i wouldn't consider a PPD user a high value man bc the overwhelming majority of male posters here don't see women in a way i would be comfortable w someone i'm dating viewing women. " I mostly only go after women who show interest in me first. " AKA pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:50 PM
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woman but remember that men fuck barn animals and chicken sandwhiches and then high five each other about ghosting women. attention means nothing unless it is paired with consistent action over a long period of time that demonstrates he is a good guy who is interested in what is best for you, not just what gets you into bed with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:48 PM
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getting a guy you're super attracted to you, that is willing to heavily invest without reciprocity seems hard. You have to not notice looks/pay enough attention to become "super attracted" before they've proven that they are into you and a good human being who would be a good partner. Women are just too groomed to throw it all away for "love", you can't let those feelings come up until you've done due dilligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:47 PM
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> The flip side is I'd advise any man to not date a woman who's clearly deliberatley witholding herself and putting up an emotional wall. you want men to date women who have been traumatized and are not capable of setting boundaries for the sake of their own health and wellness. healthy women don't put themselves in situations that hurt them. would i date a man like that? no, i would tell him to get help for his own sake, not take advantage of him being in a vulnerable state.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:45 PM
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You can't predict the future. did you ever stop to think this isn't good enough for women and that's why you don't understand FDS? If you're going to change your life around for a man (which women are raised to do) and he can leave you whenever, the whole grooming of women to be feminine wives collapses. There is no longer a purpose to putting all of that into a marriage for some fickle pornbrain who thinks its weird that human women age. > Unless you're ugly as fuck and a lowlife why would you …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:43 PM
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> I now make six figures and she is probably still broke or homeless. i hope for your sake you're trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:41 PM
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women don't think like that. men are obsessed w hierarchy and domination, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:40 PM
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no one says approaching or hitting on women is harassment. however as you demonstrate, many men are unable to tell which come ons are harassment so we give you the good advice to just leave us alone if you don't understand what is a conversation and what is harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:40 PM
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Men, especially the high value men that every woman wants, don’t want to spend time chasing women’s affection. Yes they do. Men get validation from "getting" women. Just because they won't chase someone who is unattainable doesn't mean those men don't still pursue women. They do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:39 PM
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I 100% agree that the best LTR strategy a women can have is to hold out on sex and make sure a man is genuinely interested in her before giving him “what he wants.” I think women already lose is we have to play games with men so that they get tricked into treating us with respect. But I agree, that's pretty much what you have to do if you want to be in a good relationship w a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:38 PM
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do you not know that innovation is not successful try after successful try? Most of the time you try something and find out it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:38 PM
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no. because that doesn't happen. those men are lying to women (and probably themselves) about how they will treat her in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:35 PM
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To you. The person taking advantage of someone else’s free unpaid labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:29 PM
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Bc most men can’t afford it and think “traditional” means a woman who is their slave and also works full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:15 PM
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This is fds. And yes, you have to actively vet out a shit ton of men who are lying to you for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:14 PM
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I’m lost. I’m saying when men throw themselves at everyone that attention will cease to have any meaning bc it is ubiquitous. Men fuck chicken sandwiches.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:01 PM
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Sounds like you’re not listening to what women actually say.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:18 PM
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There’s nothing morally wrong w sex. There are actual measurable real life consequences to sex that make it harmful. V dif that a superstitious idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:14 PM
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So you’re reversing your position that hairy legs are gross or what
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:09 PM
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No I think the average guy is ugly, a gamer, selfish, lives w his parents, and hates women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:07 PM
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And how do they get w the men? The men lie and pretend to be interested until they get sex. And women aren’t mindreaders so.. not sure what you expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:07 PM
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Never had a guy do any of these things for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:06 PM
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Bc 1 in 4 of us are carrying around trauma from our rapes and the endless gaslighting about it from “the good ones”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:05 PM
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I would NEVER date a guy who engaged in looksmaxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:04 PM
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I thought men were just like me. Holy shit was I wrong. They think less, they care less, they have no desire to be nice to themselves, their friends, their family, their community. Just an alien species that only cares about having sex to feel like a man and numbing out w porn, gaming and alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:04 PM
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Yes. Wish men had the same standards. They’ve made male attention so abundant it has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:01 PM
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Idk I don’t feel it’s wrong but I do feel men can’t handle it. If men can’t have casual sex without disrespecting women, then yeah, a hypothetical syllogism would show that casual sex is harmful for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:01 PM
1

This is an incel sub. You’ve seen them posted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:59 PM
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That’s really weird. You hang out w people who treat others like that? Like multiple women. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:59 PM
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Listen to how men on PPD talk. Men hate women. Why would we choose to be around them? As the online male supremacy grows, female interest in partnering w men shrinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:58 PM
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To you. A modern male who watches porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:56 PM
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No it’s not. Even if your specific bf is into hair legs and pits you’re battling messaging you’ve been getting since infancy that hairy women are gross. Men gaslighting us like this is one reason it’s just not worth it to be around y’all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:56 PM
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No one is making that claim
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:54 PM
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Been celibate since before the pandemic started.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:54 PM
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I love this for us. Us = women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:53 PM
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It’s weird to assume it’s a 50/50 problem when, for instance men murder their partners twice as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:52 PM
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Yes “Easy” if your goal is what men’s goal is (sex) But only bc men are easy to get sex from. No? I don’t think anyone can but I def do not expect men to be attracted to me. I don’t go on blind dates or hangs w friends of friends bc I do nt want the guy to be disappointed and take it out on me or out mutual friend. No? Attraction is just a thing you notice when you like someone. It has nothing to do w partner selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:51 PM
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Don’t waste your time, they are all jerking off to trolling you and they should really be paying you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:37 PM
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Glad to see I’m still living rent free in your brain. Hope you’re getting help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:21 PM
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Yes if it’s hookup culture and the guy watches porn. No if you’re in love and he is a human being who loves you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:50 PM
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Tell this do the men who dehumanize me 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:09 PM
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Every study on planet earth says men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:08 PM
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I don’t think it has to do w age. Just next those women. I won’t date a man who watches porn either. I bet they find something like CTE in their brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:07 PM
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Just like religion and cops, predators seek out areas where they have access to power over people who aren’t trying to dominate others. All over you see the power hungry violent people using any means to justify their tantrums and abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:06 PM
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100000% creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:05 PM
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