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Maybe the antagonistic ideologues on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 08:02 PM
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You know, just because you say a thing. Doesn’t make it true. “I tHiNk YoUrE a TrOlL”. Okay miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:19 PM
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Yeah like I said you’re a bad faith troll. I wouldn’t expect you to understand how to have an effective discourse. And as I said, I agree with you. I just think you’re a bad faith troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:13 PM
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No I completely agree with you but this post is just rage baiting. You say both sides are soy boys and cucks. It’s clear you just hate men, how do you build rapport from there?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:04 PM
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This is just bile, Ma’am. Impossible to have a legitimate conversation based on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:55 PM
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I think all that you would need to do to remedy that if you were in that situation would be to take some accountability. “I have matured and realize the error of my ways, you are not a fallback, you are a realization of my healing journey”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:51 PM
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I think everyone should be practicing extreme ownership over their lives and choices. Everyone. This post appears to be a tit-for-tat nana nana booboo type post with no real examination of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:44 PM
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Often I try to “decenter” the idea that we naturally view everything through dominance hierarchy. Every time I’m reminded by both sides how much everyone, men and women, red and blue pill, want a big strong daddy to tell them what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:09 PM
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Yes. I’ll say the boring opinion that everyone loves to hate. Balance is required in all things. You’ll notice blue pillers and red pillers agree on quite a lot if they were in a vacuum with no labels to identify each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:08 PM
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Not particularly. Just typical suburban USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:00 PM
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Yes male masturbation where I am from was viewed as weak and lame and gross. Not just watching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:17 PM
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I’ve never had a good response doing any nice guy shit until after fucking. Before that I feel like women think you’re weak and lame for doing so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:02 PM
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Hard disagree. I feel like it’s fine for everyone. For the sake of argument I think that it’s better when actors sign consent forms than some situations in romantasy where the consent is dubious.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:33 PM
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While I agree that is pragmatic advice I’d say it’s not unreasonable to expect a little more sex positivity in general from women more broadly. As it is sex positivity really only applies to women. For men it’s Schrödingers box of shame. Could be totally fine, could be pure evil, just apply whatever is convenient to your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:26 PM
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I want to live where you do. In my neck of the woods women think porn is the actual devil. They will shame any form of masturbation as weak and lame and harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:53 PM
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I think people understand those things but the rules they have been told get in the way of participating. How many of us were told ad nauseam to never date coworkers. Then people like OP come out and criticize people by saying “duh you can date coworkers you must just be socially inept to not see the signals Stacy was sending”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:49 PM
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Oh please I can use rhetoric to paint whatever kind of narrative on to this phenomena as I like. That’s my point. The phenomena exists, it’s observable, but whether it’s because men are pigs or open minded is kinda just, like, your perspective man…. So if people get to spread all this hate towards men based on nothing more than a vibe, then so do I get to paint a more positive narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:44 PM
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Strange, every time I bring up my lived experience it is shouted down as anecdotal… maybe it’s my confrontational tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:19 PM
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It would be a guess, as neither of us know
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:44 PM
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Eh that’s part of it but I think you can’t have one without the other. As for your second point I’m not sure how much we should take those people serious. If I take them serious then I need to take the ultra radical feminists seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:29 PM
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Banal for sure but none are a dealbreaker. I’m definitely coming in hot with the banter and poking fun at all of them. Their response will reveal a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:06 PM
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I disagree that men being horny ONLY makes them opportunistic pigs. It also makes them uniquely able to look beyond arbitrary beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:47 PM
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Huh? Men are more likely to be accepting of physical “faults” and be kinder about appearance… which is what the post is very specifically speaking about…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:42 PM
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Yeah men are more open minded and kinder in this area.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:16 PM
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Yeah it’s just rare that’s such favorable rhetoric is used so I thought it would be worth saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:13 PM
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You could also say that men are just more open minded about partners. The situation you lay out here is based on the idea that guys find a higher number of people across a more diverse subset of women attractive. I contend that men are just more open minded and have a more diverse idea of what is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:50 PM
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It’s just been my experience. Either get stood up or get confronted with the eventual “why don’t you man up and blah blah blah…”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:13 PM
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Being a gentleman is hate for women? You’re not making any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:54 PM
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Yes. Because that’s how the women in my life raised me. To ask “are you comfortable with….” “would you be interested in…..” Guess im just a weak beta bitch boy gentleman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:09 PM
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It appears that we agree women generally appreciate falling into old school gender roles. We just disagree on if gender roles are misogynistic. You propose that misogyny is ONLY saying mean things to or about women while I assert that misogyny is ALSO living by rules and traditions that were built on the inequality of yesteryear. And again I take out the trash but I also cook and I would have no qualms with doing the kind of domestic work that women have traditionally done. Yet you’re sitting th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:51 PM
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“Do you want to get pizza on Friday night at eight? I’ll pick you up if you are comfortable with that” is like 1/10 success rate. 90% You get stood up or ghosted. “Let’s hang out Friday. I’ll pick you up at 8 give me your address” is like 8/10 80% you actually get the date. The second one assumes a lot and is pushy and gross but the results are way better. I typically ask equals about their preferences and opinions prior to planning something, yet ladies seem to view this as lame or weak or bori…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:44 PM
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I think to assume a woman is not capable of some small physical feat like taking out the trash is misogynistic. I agree women are not stupid, hence the silliness of the protective paternalism. I would argue that gender roles are absolutely misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:00 PM
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Personally I feel like terms like feminine and masculine are dumb. They really don’t mean anything and they pretend to have some basis in biology or psychology and they just don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:19 PM
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You may not but it’s a pervasive narrative. I certainly think gender roles are stupid. I agree that women typically appreciate and require misogyny; I do not think that is natural or some virtue. Claiming loudly that women are weak and stupid is obviously not going to get you anywhere with ladies. However treating them as if they are weak and stupid works like a charm. My favorite example is if you ask a lady what she wants she’s more likely to be mad at you for giving her decision anxiety, than…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:08 PM
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It honestly doesn’t bother me. I just notice that it’s kinda EXPECTED from the same people who say “gender roles are outdated and oppressive” I find that extremely intellectually disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:18 PM
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I think there is a liiiiiiitle credence to the idea that women appreciate misogyny. Because they want you to treat them as if they are poor, incapable and weak. Even though women can absolutely be rich, successful, capable and strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:36 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:51 PM
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But we treat virgin men like losers and wankers? That’s confusing…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:37 PM
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Its weird because I swear I just saw a post about men feeling entitled to this or that and how it was SOOOOOOOOO wrong for them to feel entitled to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:27 PM
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Yes because the issue is that making things sexual too early is often parroted as a toxic and bad behavior. So I wish women wouldn’t be so allergic to admitting that there’s nothing wrong with boldly pursuing sex and there’s nothing wrong with making things sexual etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:24 PM
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Yes just stop the gaslighting. I’m not afraid to admit that most men have a bias for busty sluts. Doesn’t mean I’m going to defend guys who completely disregard all the negative aspect of a lady just because she’s hot or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:06 PM
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Okay but for those of us who both want to be good people and also get laid… I think it’s important to examine this. Certain things that are pre requisite for flirting are straight up against the rules and problematic, at least according to the prevailing narrative I’ve experienced. So as a guy who was raised by feminists to be a gentleman, it’s tough to step over that hurdle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:43 PM
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This is a false equivalence. Con men, used car salesmen, are peak charisma, peak “social skill”. Such is the crux of this post. The things that get you laid seemingly are not all good things. We need to reckon with those things and why we’re biased towards them. So more ethical “salesman” have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:16 PM
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So is it better to be a roguish cad that is immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:37 PM
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No it’s actually a straight line logical next step. Women say they no like, then presumably, they no like…. The confusion is that they actually DO like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:34 PM
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So… be a feminist… but act like a rakish, roguish, cad who follows all the gender norms feminists are supposed to stand against? Or It’s okay to be misogynistic, in the pursuit of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:32 PM
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It’s physically impossible for me to be responsible for anything that happened ages ago and over the course of a period of time which I was not alive for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:21 AM
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You don’t know me you’re just being mean spirited. It’s not about being turned down it’s about gender roles and how it’s nice for a guy to cook every now and then but if you do it all the time you get no credit and ladies seem to prefer that you stick to traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:20 AM
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In my experience women get sick of me cooking and rather me spend time like fixing the car or whatever. Like they think it’s great until it’s perceived that I’m slacking on “manly jobs” because I’m cooking and cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:51 PM
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In my experience it is a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:18 PM
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For me it was “your dad is a cad and a rolling stone” So I tried to be stable and reliable. Little did I know that some of his bad qualities are exactly what gets women interested. After incorporating some of those things I have much better luck with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:49 PM
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Agreed. Let’s ditch this appeal to nature “of course I threw out all other considerations for character, values, etc. they were (tall, big tits, etc)”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:41 PM
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I have never thrown a fit about being rejected. 100% of the women who I have rejected have had MELTDOWNS. But go on…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:27 PM
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And if you ARE good in school then you’re lame and weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:26 PM
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Women are complicit in patriarchy now as they were in the past. Source: they never speak up about the aspects that benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:21 PM
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I agree except it’s kinda rich after enduring the “body positivity” crap for so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:15 PM
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I feel like saying “historical gender norms” is a more fair way to characterize it. You can’t tell me a poor medieval peasant was benefiting from the patriarchy and that a medieval monarchical woman was not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:44 PM
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Patriarchy seems a little too pointed in my opinion. The language makes it seem like “men did this to themselves”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:31 PM
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It seems to me like men just took a page out of women’s book and started using similar tactics. I don’t necessarily think it is right for either group to just say “I’m a ten, I deserve the best” without any burden of actually demonstrating that. I think people took affirmations and manifesting a little too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:04 PM
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I think you are maybe downplaying the role women had in the process of arranging marriages. In some cultures it was almost a completely female led process. Sure the patriarch would be the one who has final say but like I said the women of a family had huge input in setting these things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:23 PM
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That’s even more broad than tomatoes. You’re a hypocrite because you’re typing on a phone made with conflict minerals mined in a place without human rights protections. It’s fucked up. Yet I don’t think it’s my responsibility to live in a tent in the woods because apple can’t get their act together and raise the standard of their ethical mineral sourcing. Blame the criminals not the people just living their lives. Unless you think we are complicit in the crimes of illicit mining operations just …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:12 PM
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You. Are the human with the tomato privileges. And you haven’t apologized once… smh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:55 PM
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Yes things like TOMATOES! Which I should be able to enjoy guilt free. What is confusing about that? Do you honestly “acknowledge your privilege” aloud to the whole restaurant every time you eat a red sauce?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:47 PM
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No point I’m asking you a set of questions to facilitate a better understanding of your position. The intellectually disingenuous answer would be that it doesn’t bother you. To which I would ask why does it not bother you? The intellectually honest answer would be that it seems there is an imbalance, of which there could be many causes. To which I would ask why do you think there is less body positivity media aimed towards men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:45 PM
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Yes and we should all be able to enjoy a guilt free potato so long as you’re a good person and not a criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:38 PM
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I get it you’re trying to lampoon an idea of an ignorant group of people. But that only works if you’re not condoning that thing or its congruent example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:36 PM
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Im saying if it wasn’t me then what do I have to apologize for? And the tomato example is pretty salient in my opinion. It’s an example of something the old world would not have if it weren’t for the era of colonialism. Yet I see a lot of liberals and feminists and such just CHOWING down on salsa, pasta etc. no apologies… no reparations… how far do you take these ideas because at some point I feel you’re just highlighting ugly parts of history and using it as a tactic like a antagonistic ideolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:30 PM
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I agree. So how do you feel about the fact that when I google body positivity it’s all (for the sake of argument, maybe it’s more like 95%) content about women’s bodies and such? Does that indicate some small imbalance to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:26 PM
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I agree with you the OP lacks tact in that respect. I still agree that whatever demographic a certain criminal belongs to has nothing to do with me, a law abiding citizen. No matter how much I look like them no matter how much we have in common. Let me ask you this, is racial profiling totally cool in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:20 PM
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Did you know that tomatoes are not native to the old world? So they definitely are enjoying privileges from colonialism. Should everyone in Italy stop using tomatoes? Because it’s cultural appropriation? Send a check to South America as reparations? Have you eaten lasagna recently? How dare you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:59 PM
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You specifically are talking about men asking women to lower their standards. Which I agree is stupid, but then it’s also stupid to do the reverse and tell men to lower their standards…. Which has been happening for years in forums way more public and mainstream than Reddit subs. If we can say that the rule applies to everyone then I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:54 PM
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Im dissecting your argument to its most fundamental basis. Which is that everyone must take accountability for things that they have…. Never done
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:46 PM
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Sorry I actually need you to apologize about your ancestors before I listen to you or treat you with the courtesy due to a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:25 PM
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You can try to justify your hate and racism any way you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:23 PM
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I agree that we nee to live our lives pragmatically. But it’s awfully rich hearing this take considering pervasive narratives in media have attempted this exact thing for years. All shapes can be attractive, you’re a bad person for not liking a certain feature, complexion, or literally any preference. I agree with the above message if it applies to everyone. Not if it’s a tactic to shame men into dating fat chicks meanwhile fat/short guys get no love and are told “not to blame anyone but themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:19 PM
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You’re advocating for misandry by tacitly approving of racism. That. Is awful bold, Miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:13 PM
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Do Italian people need to take accountability for the crimes they committed against Northern Europe?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:07 PM
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At the risk of echo chambering a bit I also find the whole military thing hilarious. In my country only boys need to sign the paperwork. It’s a little exhausting that you can’t see the hypocrisy of “women can be good soldiers too” and a left leaning guy might say something like “I agree! Women should have to sign up for the draft too” and then comes the predictable crickets or defensive deflection
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:09 PM
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You might be on to something there. I guess my pushback would be I don’t see many enlightened women clarifying their position or policing their own. If some girl is saying “women can change tires too!” And the whole group goes “yass! We love an automotive queen” but then goes on to never learn how to change a wiper blade let alone a tire. That’s a little intellectually disingenuous no? The honest thing would be to say “I actually prefer doing the domestic housework arbitrarily assigned to women”…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:46 PM
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I think a lot of women pretend to be more liberal than they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:50 PM
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Id argue a lot more women are more conservative than they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:46 PM
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Or like paying for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:37 PM
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I think it’s like a lot of subjects on this sub. Women feel hard done by gender norms of the past, so they take a hard line probably a few steps beyond the true middle ground. Just wait (and I’ve already seen examples) until more men are SAHDs and we will start to see ladies taking different positions in these arguments. Shitting on their SAHHs for whatever predictable thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:24 PM
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I appreciate this response. I find that many women completely disregard one half of this. Which leaves potentially good mates neutering themselves trying to be sooooooo considerate and soooooo stable and soooooooo asexual that they never get anywhere. Balance in all things, in addition to seeming like a good person you need to ALSO be sexy. Predictable, safe, and stable ALONE does not a Casanova make.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:16 PM
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I’ll admit that it’s tough work and it’s a job but I don’t understand the hysteria around “toughest job in the world” and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 05:09 PM
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Nothing. That’s my point. Succeeding or not really has nothing to do with how “good” you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:30 PM
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I agree things can shift over time to mean different things and become colloquialisms. Yet I’m not out here just redefining words to suit me. I don’t like salespeople but that doesn’t mean I can just redefine the term salesperson to mean conman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:52 PM
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Only deal breakers I see are alcoholism and distance. Everything else can be smoothed over with a good personality ie: self aware, interested in fairness, believes in right and wrong etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:44 PM
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People are so flaky it seems like a good thing in my opinion. I find people love the attention they love the banter but as soon as you start attempting to plan a date they get bored or scared and stop responding. So making the date a little more incentivized makes sense to me. I reckon it’s good to have both platforms. If you want to hoe around and see how much attention you can get from babes on the internet that’s cool you go to tinder. If you want to date intentionally you go to one of those …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:40 PM
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I would not rely on them to do so. If I see interest I start with the banter. Any hesitation seems to be a huge turn off IME. Relying on them to make the first move seems to cause more problems than anything. Even if it works out and you end up dating it will always be “you never even liked me I had to make the first move and give you my number”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:28 PM
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Nobody is more charismatic than someone who is trying to sell you something they know you don’t want. Used car salesman and con artists are peak charisma and only care about the outcome and not the customer satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:57 PM
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And a charismatic woman hater is more likely to be a playboy what are we doing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:53 PM
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No it doesn’t. That’s a made up definition that has nothing to do with the word. The word is a portmanteau of involuntary, and celibate. That’s all it means. Trying to define it any other way is just false, and it proves OPs point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:26 PM
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That’s great once you’ve gotten someone interested. But prior to that I agree with OP. The things girls like tend to make me feel gross because I was raised by feminist women to be a midwestern gentleman. For instance asking “are you comfortable with me picking you up?” Is IME almost a zero percent success rate. “What’s your address? I’ll pick you up” is much better. One is obviously the more polite, more considerate option, yet has an awful success rate IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:03 PM
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Well the enlightened feminist women who raised me certainly bought it and indoctrinated me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 11:17 PM
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I feel like we had similar upbringings it’s just my being “genial” is tainted by the fact that I’m also a big scary man. So I had to be genial in a different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 11:10 PM
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Well I don’t go around proselytizing about things I like being bad or somehow wrong. I feel like that is disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 10:13 PM
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I agree and that’s why I set flair to purple as I do believe in balance in all things. Yet here is something that has irked me since I started doing it. Telling ladies what to do. It feels wrong, why not ask and take their preferences into consideration. This IME bores women to tears and will get you stood up. It’s way better to just order them around and they tend to just listen. I don’t think it’s right but they seem to respond better to “we’re getting tacos Thursday” and if they say they’re b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 10:07 PM
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This is draconian gender dynamics you absolute muppet. Grow up and become a real person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 07:52 PM
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I don’t totally disagree. I just feel like there’s things that women won’t admit that they need in order to stay interested. You gotta be a good guy with juuuuuuuuust enough protective paternalism and traditional masculine archetype characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 07:49 PM
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20s to early 30s. I’ve had multiple women tell me “if you had pushed more we would have dated” “it seemed like you’re not interested” Which is frustrating because I thought showing genuine interest in the person and not just the genitals was the best way. Ever since I started behaving more sexually towards women, boldly showing that I am in fact trying to sleep with them, dictating the plan vs consulting with the other person, being a little arrogant, keeping conversations shallow and bantery vs…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:09 PM
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In my experience being raised by women and surrounded by female acquaintances never helped me in dating. Honestly what helped me in dating was completely disregarding all the lessons I learned about dating from women. Sure I had a bustling social circle, and yes women fell into my lap from that, but few and far between. What’s more the women I dated would eventually resent that I wasn’t more masculine ie: demanding, jealous, aggressive, prone to emotional outburst. It’s as though my conversation…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:55 PM
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I resent the idea that it’s because we are afraid of rejection or somehow too weak to pursue our desires. I was raised to be a gentleman and that if you make someone uncomfortable that’s your fault. If you offend someone that’s because you communicated your position poorly. Imagine my surprise when I hear from people who feel that you don’t need to apologize for anything you do so long as it is authentic, or how it’s not our responsibility to make those around us comfortable so long as we’re not…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:48 PM
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I think if you had a lovely 8/10 boyfriend who was genuinely an awesome person, you would not be tempted by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:37 PM
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Disagree. I’d say resource management is as human an instinct as attraction to a mate. You can choose to horde or be altruistic. Just like you can go for the dumb broad who is a knockout or you can go for the lady who you have more in common with who is maybe ever so slightly less attractive. We’re humans not sex robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:31 PM
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What pattern?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:55 PM
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Well then I say we spread positivity and hope rather than cynicism and negativity. These takes imply that everyone at their core is awful, furthermore that any humble, normal person is only good because they don’t have the power to be bad. I just disagree. I think people generally are pretty good. If more people believed that then I think more people would be inclined towards being good. If we assume everyone is evil then it tacitly permits us to be evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:06 PM
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Easy argument to make. “You would never be generous if you were rich” Why do we require people to first demonstrate they are capable of something that is bad, before we allow them to have an opinion on what the right course of action is? If Diogenes lived today he would not have been remembered as a wise philosopher but rather forgotten as a nameless, rambling, homeless person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:15 PM
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Opinions, like subatomic particles, behave differently when observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:03 PM
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I know I struggle with it. To be pragmatic or virtuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:47 PM
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I agree, and I plan to live life according to my own code. I just think it’s still fine to push back and proselytize fairness and goodness and hope and truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:40 PM
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I tend to disagree with these kind of takes. Because I think it’s fair to criticize harmful trends. For instance extreme materialism. Sure you can just avoid those people, but if 90% of people look at an android phone as some symbol of struggle or class indicator then that’s not really a good belief that people should have. It’s not enough to just avoid and ignore them because its so pervasive. I think it’s fair to attempt to educate people and persuade them to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:37 PM
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So. Everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:20 PM
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