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| 0 | Comparing short men to fat women is damn insulting.So what you're saying is kind of true, obviously a real one to one comparison would always be height to height or weight to weight. I think generally when they make this comparison though they're talking about the perceived value of being fat or short in dating. Similarly to how many men value women who are young and beautiful but don't care about career achievements as much while many women value men who are very successful in their career but not necessarily the fact that they're a 19 year old… | /r/MensRights | 16/04/23 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Remember, there is no such thing as 'Objectification'Okay we can use another of your examples, let's say we have an actress at the Oscar's who's wearing a low cut dress, and she wins an Oscar for something. There's a clip of her acceptance speech on YouTube and all the comments are just saying how much they wanna fuck the actress. Those comments are ignoring the accomplishments of the actress which is the whole point of the Oscar's and reducing her to a sexual object. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/23 02:42 PM |
| 0 | Remember, there is no such thing as 'Objectification'So it's seems like you do believe objectification exists, just that it's a non-issue. Objectification, to my understanding, is treating another person as a sexual object or otherwise disregarding their other traits or their personality just because they might be perceived in a sexual way. To use one of your examples, I'd you're at a Walmart and you see a girl that you know has an onlyfans, it would be inappropriate to go up to her and say something sexual or act in a sexual way. You would be obj… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/23 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Police plan to tackle 'incel' culture to cut violence against womenOkay fuck the definition thing Ive had like that same conversation 4 times already. Basically my final question for you on that topic would be do you think its wrong of them to use a term that might not perfectly describe what they're talking about if that's the only term that the general audience will understand. Most people have heard of incels even if they don't know the exact definition. If they were to specify the exact subgroups of the redpill community nobody would know what they're talki… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Police plan to tackle 'incel' culture to cut violence against womenDo you honestly disagree that people sometimes use the word incel to refer to the larger MRA community because everyone knows that term? Even if it's maybe not ideal to do so. Also, I don't think it actually requires hating women to be a misogynist, the same way if someone doesn't hate black people but still assumes every black guy is a gang memever, we would still say they're a racist. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 09:53 AM |
| 1 | Police plan to tackle 'incel' culture to cut violence against womenWhether or not it's been pushed by the media doesn't really matter, incel is now the most commonly used term for those kinds of ideas, and as such it's going to be used as a catch-all for redpill/MRA/MGTOW groups. Yeah it has a negative connotation, but we both know that's not entirely undeserved. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 03:28 AM |
| 0 | Police plan to tackle 'incel' culture to cut violence against womenI'm not saying that whichever intelligence committee chair or chief of police or investigator that wrote the policy doesn't know what the problem is, I more mean that public speakers and PR managers and press secretaries are more accustomed to using terms they think the general public will be familiar with just because it sounds better. When we talk about terrorist groups or extremist organizations we often use catch-all terms that the public will know, even if they aren't perfectly representati… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 02:12 AM |
| 1 | Police plan to tackle 'incel' culture to cut violence against womenYeah I fully agree with you that the commonly held idea that men are never domestically abused or even sometimes that when they are it's not a big deal is pretty gross. I'd like to think though that recently this is becoming less prevalent especially after the Johnny Depp trial, not that that makes it a a non-issue, but more people are aware now that men are victims as well. I still don't think the fact that men are often hung out to dry as victims is the same as what the other guy said about th… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 01:58 AM |
| 0 | Police plan to tackle 'incel' culture to cut violence against womenYeah I'm extremely ignorant I get it. If you don't wanna discuss this that's fine, my initial problem was with a pretty specific issue, and we've moved well past that. You can believe that I'm "incapable of engaging" with your comments if you want, but you've linked almost 3 hours of interview footage and well over 100 pages worth of reading, I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to not go through the whole thing. Even if I concede that men are victims of domestic abuse just as much or moreso… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 01:36 AM |
| -2 | Police plan to tackle 'incel' culture to cut violence against womenI didn't read every link in that but yeah at face value that sounds kinda fucked up, probably most feminists you would ask today would say so as well. It's pretty wierd that domestic violence against men is so underrepresented and even not taken seriously, although I think that's getting better with time ESPECIALLY post Depp/Heard trial. I'm also not sure how strong the claim is that it's done maliciously because feminists hate men which seems to be the tone of that thread. I know there are some… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/23 12:10 AM |
| 0 | Feminists say they’re the only ones impacted by gender roles, but that’s far from the truth…This is a huuuuge strawman, I don't think this is even close to the majority opinion held even by the most radical feminists. Literally all it takes to disprove this is one Google search https://www.forbes.com/sites/kathycaprino/2018/01/25/renowned-therapist-explains-the-crushing-effects-of-patriarchy-on-men-and-women-today/ https://everydayfeminism.com/2014/11/what-is-patriarchy/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.huffpost.com/archive/ca/entry/patriarchy-men-boys_ca_5cec68aee4b01da9991126ed/amp h… | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 11:37 PM |
| -1 | Police plan to tackle 'incel' culture to cut violence against womenWait if you could provide examples of extreme sects of feminism causing or being heavily correlated with violent crime do you think I would oppose policing those groups or investigating that link? Also you're doing the same thing as the author of this article right, you're using "feminism" as a catch all for progressive ideas about women's issues. And that's fine, I'm not saying that's a bad thing I'm just pointing it out you were the one who took issue with them using the term incel to refer to… | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 11:02 PM |
| 0 | Police plan to tackle 'incel' culture to cut violence against womenThis is verbatim from the article, "The report describes incel culture as a "misogynistic ideology" in which men blame women for their lack of intimate relationships and resort to verbal, physical, or sexual assault. This culture is largely online, where incels communicate across various platforms in what is often called the "manosphere"." So this is the definition they're working with, which I think is pretty fair for what they're talking about. They also state that the primary methods they're … | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 10:10 PM |
| -2 | Police plan to tackle 'incel' culture to cut violence against womenAt lot of comments here are stating something along the lines of, "The police are talking about domestic violence or jntimate partner violence, incels are definitionally celibate so this doesn't apply to them, gotcha libtard". I think this fundamentally misses the point. It's unreasonable to expect any normal person, even law enforcement, to know the exact technical differences between men's rights communities, if you go ask a random coworker about the ideological differences between redpill, mg… | /r/MensRights | 19/03/23 07:37 PM |
| -6 | 57% of women - including 70% of those 18 to 24 - identify as feminists in Canada, the highest number in decadesThis is pretty reasonable depending on what you think makes someone a feminist, probably more than 57% of people would say that we should try and protect the environment does that most of Canadians environmentalists? The average feminist is someone who sees that women face problems usually based on personal experience and wants to fix said problems, easy examples might be being sexualized, hit on, or catcalled, in inappropriate situations, maybe they were told as a kid to go into teaching or chi… | /r/MensRights | 17/03/23 08:34 PM |
| -21 | Is anyone else horrified by how easy it is to falsely accuse a man of assault?Brother this will never happen to you, if you aren't in high school these types of things don't regularly happen to average people. The odds of you being falsely accused of rape or sexual assault are astronomically low. Also, it would ruin your life just as much to be accused of regular assault. If one of your friends started telling people you attacked him you'd have a problem on your hands real fast. Or if someone at your workplace started telling people you're a furry. There are plenty of thi… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/23 04:38 AM |
| 1 | What is your response to the argument that it's reasonable that there are better domestic violence services for women than men because women have fought harder for them e.g. with fundraising?This isn't an argument you should ever fight against, this is pretty close to being a statement of fact. Domestic abuse towards women is to my understanding more common and typically more dangerous than towards men. It is also much more discussed and understood socially. Something you could argue with would be saying, "Men are never domestically abused and therefore DESERVE no resources", I'm making that up as a strawman though. Domestic abuse towards women is a very common issue talked about by… | /r/MensRights | 15/03/23 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Countries safe for men?There are very few countries in the world where you are likely to be seriously domestically or sexually abused and have no recourse after and none of them are in NA or Western Europe. If you're so concerned about this issue that you're about to flee your home country you might consider rearranging you priorities based on how things actually affect your life (assuming you're from a western country) | /r/MensRights | 15/03/23 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Are most women bisexual? And the raise of lesbianismI don't think most women have the option of just choosing to date girls that's not really how that works, also generally women are a little bit more likely to be lesbuans than men are to be gay but not by a huge margin. I'm curious where you've come up with the idea that women only date men for money and protection though. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/23 11:02 PM |
| -2 | Do you think the mens rights movement will reach the same level of "revolutionary" as feminism?There are groups of MRAs that are as radical and more radical than the most extreme feminists, acting like your movement is full of nothing but totally logical reasonable people who never act in bad faith is pretty naive imo. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/23 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Hot take - if a woman lies about not wanting a kid to trick you into having sex, it should be a crime.Maybe if you could demonstrate that the only reason she lied was to get someone to have sex this would have a chance of being a good point, but even then if you wanna be consistent you would also believe that a man lying about his height, his dick size, his desire for a relationship, or anything else that might make him seem more attractive should also be a crime. As well as a woman lying about stuff like that. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/23 04:41 PM |
| 1 | How do I hold other women accountable for misandrist attitudes when they defend themselves by saying “it’s just a joke?” #killallmenMy point isn't to attack Andrew tate's character that's not what we're talking about here, even if I would make that argument. It's to say that it is obvious to anyone who can engage with these types of jokes honestly that the idea that women should stay in the kitchen is exponentially more commonplace than the idea that we should kill every dude. I don't need to prove that Andrew tate is a misogynist for the fact that lots of guys think women should be housewives to be true. He is just an easy … | /r/MensRights | 07/09/22 01:05 PM |
| 1 | How do I hold other women accountable for misandrist attitudes when they defend themselves by saying “it’s just a joke?” #killallmenI'll stand by all those assumptions seeing as we're in a men's rights sub. For sure there are many ways to discourage certain behaviors like wierd jokes, but my personal experience, and probably yours as well, is that these things often receive very little or no negative reaction. I would maybe disagree that silence isn't agreement but that's not really important rn. To respond to your original comment, alot of what you were saying was that women shouldn't have carte blanche to treat guys like s… | /r/MensRights | 06/09/22 08:39 PM |
| 0 | How do I hold other women accountable for misandrist attitudes when they defend themselves by saying “it’s just a joke?” #killallmenI think part of the concern is also that their are a significant portion of dudes, including probably many on this subreddit, who legitimately believe some of the things people joke about with regards to women's stereotypes. If I have a group of ten guys and someone says "women are bad drivers hahahhaha", if everyone laughs there's a pretty good chance one or two of those guys are Andrew tate fans and actually think women are bad drivers and are hazardous to have on the road. When the joke is ki… | /r/MensRights | 06/09/22 08:15 PM |
| -1 | How do I hold other women accountable for misandrist attitudes when they defend themselves by saying “it’s just a joke?” #killallmenIn the sense that I somehow doubt when OP hears his friend making a joke about women in the kitchen or whatever he interrupts to go on a spiel about harmful forms of humor. It seems like this comment section is full of people who would largely excuse or minimize the damage of misogynistic jokes but get up in arms when someone says kill all men | /r/MensRights | 06/09/22 02:00 AM |
| 1 | How do I hold other women accountable for misandrist attitudes when they defend themselves by saying “it’s just a joke?” #killallmenYou absolutely have a point, it's not fair to completely excuse bad behavior because of past injustices. However I think when so many guys still make misogynistic jokes and it isn't taken all that seriously, it's a little wierd to want to jump down a woman's throat for doing essentially the same thing. Now if OP wants to call out everyone they see making sensitive jokes I guess that's fine but I don't think that's what's going on here | /r/MensRights | 06/09/22 01:39 AM |
| -10 | How do I hold other women accountable for misandrist attitudes when they defend themselves by saying “it’s just a joke?” #killallmenI think seeing as its been acceptable for a very very long time to make misogynistic jokes and to some extent it still is, holding women accountable for misandrist jokes shouldn't be your highest priority. Now, obviously misogyny in the past doesn't justify misandry today, but I think the amount of jokes I hear about women being dishwashers even today is far greater than the number of men are trash or kill all men jokes and very rarely are these pushed back on. These types of jokes, while being … | /r/MensRights | 06/09/22 12:24 AM |
| 1 | why do most people seem to think that women dosen't rape or are abusive?Do you have a source for this? Pretty much all other sex crimes are skewed heavily towards male perpetrators so I would ask for evidence of this 50/50 claim or alternatively if you can't provide any, why you think its true as its such an outlier from all other forms of sexual violence. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 02:30 PM |
| 1 | why does society ignore the fact that marriage laws are why many men refuse to marry?While some of what you've said is true, I don't think it's reasonable to claim that falling marriage rates are primarily caused by: a)men in general, and b)men who are worried about legal problems in the future. Cornell did a study a few years back called "Mismatches in the Marriage Market" which concluded that there is a "large deficit in the supply of potential male spouses" based on what women described as a suitable husband versus the actual demographics of single men. I would posit that men… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 02:25 PM |
| -3 | If a man seeks to protect himself from false accusations by moving to a country with more favorable laws he is accused of being a rapistI think its pretty reasonable for someone to assume that if an average man is moving to a country with more lax sexual assault laws he might be trying to get away with something. Maybe if you're like a rich famous actor we can look at this idea more favorably but for a random guy whos like an insurance advisor to do this is a little wierd. Your average man has basically a zero percent chance of ever being falsely accused of sexual assault or rape. Therefore the idea that he needs to uproot his l… | /r/MensRights | 18/08/22 08:22 PM |
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