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If you're faking, you're pure evil. If you're not, then you're below pathetic. My actual sides... so much self-delusional projection...
/r/MensRights14/01/16 09:20 PM
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Wow. Aaaaaand... here we go again.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 12:36 AM
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Yes, you're probably right. Thanks. :-)
/r/MensRights04/03/14 08:01 PM
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I mentioned the fact to effectively bolster my claim. If anyone suspected that my comment was just made out of my bias, knowing that I'm a feminist would probably change their minds.
/r/MensRights04/03/14 12:26 PM
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Yeah, this isn't good: it's psychological abuse in the form of undermining and destabilization. Teaching children to perceive an imbalance of worth based on gender is a recipe for their entering an abusive a relationship later on, as well. Plausibly, it would engender self-hatred or latent misogyny in a child and cause a splitting in the psyche. This gives rise to many types of personality disorders. The poor little guys being taught this would be doomed. That's a backward understanding of the a…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 11:14 PM
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I care about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 08:24 AM
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I get that youre trying to help, but I'm not sure how shaming someone for not having self respect is going to increase the amount of respect they give themselves. That is actually one of the things that might keep a person feeling dependent on someone who is harming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 08:21 AM
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Philosopher, here. We don't like you. http://www.reddit.com/r/badphilosophy/comments/1u51jz?sort=new
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 07:55 PM
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Ok.
/r/MensRights27/12/13 07:35 AM
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I don't understand what this has to do with male privilege. Obviously these aren't descriptions of privilege... I don't get it...
/r/MensRights27/12/13 05:08 AM
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There was no indication in this that the younger sister was 'being prostituted' as you describe. Yes, there was explicitly. Did you read the article? Not contacting the police is not an "act". As to whether or not inaction is morally bad, that's up to debate. Some view inaction as morally neutral, and only harmful actions as bad. Not acting when one otherwise could is acting, e.g. holding during a poker game. Here's another problem. Under your definition, no one would ever be culpable of anythin…
/r/MensRights04/12/13 07:25 PM
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This is a really interesting post. I think you may have discovered a genuine case of cultural misandry, which until now I didn't think existed. I'm impressed. Thanks for edifying me. I'll definitely watch myself around my use of this word, and call others out when they use it the way you've described.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 04:40 PM
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This is excellent. I really appreciate your input. Every argument you've made is cogent. I share most of the intuitions you stated. At a few points, you mentioned that the questions I was asking could only be answered from a subjective standpoint. That was astute because a subjective account is precisely what I was after. I'm really glad to have inter-met you. :-) thanks again
/r/MensRights02/12/13 03:55 PM
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No thanks.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 06:04 AM
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Extra details: I am physically and mentally handicapped, and currently can not work I would like to know a great deal more about this project - having browsed through your posting history it seems while you are (or at least you talk the talk) in favour of addressing men's issues you are very against what is pretty much the only group that realistically addresses them - that is to say self identified MRA's. What exactly is this paper to which you refer? What is the way in which you plan to addres…
/r/MensRights30/11/13 06:00 AM
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To his rationale, he might think "if I hook up with this older sister, she'll be too busy fucking me to market themselves out to other guys", as opposed to leaving her free to take up other offers. Yes, what you wrote sounds exactly like something a creepy, perverted creep would say or think. Def. "Creep" : a person who elicits alarm, repulsion or suspicion in others by causing them to infer his morally bad intentions and/or morally bad character. If someone has good reason to suspect that a chi…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 02:39 AM
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I've never heard that... Edit to add : looks like it's May. Are there two months, May and November? Where did you read that November is women's health month, too?
/r/MensRights16/11/13 02:11 AM
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Which month is women's health month?
/r/MensRights15/11/13 06:08 AM
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It is not Frederick Douglass's job to figure out how you're going to grow the cotton without the slaves. This just makes me sad, honestly. You seem like a smart person who has a moral compass but has gotten way off track. How far are you really willing to go to ad hoc your own position? What atrocities are severe enough that you'll say, "I think that I've experienced some injustice, but nothing like that." I think if you really got honest with yourself, you'd see why comparing men and their abil…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 08:52 PM
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Right, because pedophiles are usually very rude when luring children. They never make jokes or use animals to lure them, either. This guy is _clearly_a victim of a culture that hates politeness. Should have politely said, "ma'am, your sister is a child and I'm calling the police." The way this post and so many comments make it look, people will justify predatory pedophilia if it allows them to complain about their rights. Anything that validates your position goes. Anything. Gross.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 07:48 PM
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He was an effing creep. Are you kidding?
/r/MensRights10/11/13 08:20 AM
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You didn't address my argument, you only repeated points you had already asserted by cherry picking quotes from a larger context. That isn't a response.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 01:16 AM
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As an aside, you do realize that the scenario you're proposing would severely discriminate against lower income men (and as a consequence, men of non-white ethnicities,) right? So, basically, if and only if you're rich, white and male, you have a privilege to buy your way out of the consequences of your actions. Sounds like a case that could be used as an example of the P-word to me. Isn't the point of your movement to stop discrimination against men?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:13 AM
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Drug-induced abortion is a painful, bloody, 4 day long mess. I am led to believe that some few unlucky women have periods like that. It sucks, but it's not an invasive medical procedure. So, you're telling me that a woman who has had a drug-induced abortion told you the experience was similar to the ones she has during menstruation? This reminds me of the people who call their high-school teachers "nazis". No effing clue. You have no idea about what price women pay. It's more than 300 effing dol…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:03 AM
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I have it! Any man who requests a financial abortion is subject to a forced vasectomy. Drug-induced abortion is not particularly invasive. This says it all right here. You have no clue what you're talking about, or the level of effed up entailed by being the pregnant person in an unwanted pregnancy situation. Drug-induced abortion is a painful, bloody, 4 day long mess. That's not including the havock that after pregnancy hormones wreak on your body. All the worse if you doubt the moral permissib…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 07:36 AM
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Well, I mean, I would say all, but we should be fair, since sterility is more likely to occur with a vasectomy. But the point is when two people participate in an action that results in an undesirable outcome, both parties should face the same burden as a consequence. Given your statistical analysis, to make things even we should do something like I said. I mean, a person's actual willingness to risk an invasive medical procedure or suffer long term medical, psychological, or societal consequenc…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 03:48 AM
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Huh. Well it seems like the solution is to track down 1/5 of all the males who have been coresponsible for an unwanted pregnancy and force them to either get vasctomies or pay a special tax.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 03:25 AM
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Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8uY79zQeak&feature=youtube_gdata_player
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:33 PM
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Clearly. Except, I don't get. Is this the joke? Getting me to wonder and ask about the joke? Like a meta-joke or something? That's hilarious!
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:23 PM
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Pure Romance is a company that sells sex toys for women. They don't allow men at any of their sales events because they want women to feel comfortable enough to buy dildos.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 01:31 PM
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If r/feminism could force subreddits to change, don't you think they would have been all over this one? r/science thought the suggestion to include women was a good one. You haven't been victimized, calm down.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 01:04 PM
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Modern philosophers who gave the original conception of what you desibe are philosophers from the renaissance. Post-modern philosophers from the 1950s (like the positivists and nominalists) might find some agreement with the theory. The contemporary philosophers of today do generally reject the view. In any case, how is that relevant?
/r/MensRights03/11/13 12:53 PM
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So they're about equal risk.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 05:52 AM
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Do you have comparable statistics with regard to vascectomies?
/r/MensRights03/11/13 12:26 AM
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Right, and women can become sterile as the result of an abortion.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 08:47 PM
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What if the woman believes it's murder? What if she's worried about possible complications (there are many. It's not like getting a flu shot.) I see the impetus behind your take, but it has to be up to the woman. Here's the solution I'd propose. Get a vasectomy. They're reversible, and carry about equal risk. If you haven't gotten one and you have sex knowing you wouldn't want to raise a child that might result from it, that's the risk you've both chosen to take. But, the woman has to face eithe…
/r/MensRights02/11/13 07:07 AM
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Counterexample? To my opinion?
/r/MensRights02/11/13 05:58 AM
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Oh, I guess I wasn't being clear enough. I said in my last comment that I don't think OP actually approves. I just think the wording can be interpreted as suggesting approval.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 05:19 AM
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No, it's not a hate movement. Someone told you that and you took their word for it. They were lying.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 05:17 AM
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Depends on the feminist. By your logic, how are you guys not bigoted against feminists?
/r/MensRights02/11/13 02:22 AM
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http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/femapproach-analytic/#VarWayChaDifAmoFemPhi
/r/MensRights02/11/13 02:19 AM
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demand fathers have an equal say in the abortion or adoption of his child This could get very slippery.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 02:19 AM
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Why not change the name of MRA, then, if that's your position?
/r/MensRights02/11/13 02:16 AM
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"...who gets the larger sentence..." Using consistent inferential grammatical logic, does that indicate to you that the author feels a longer prison sentence is good? If I tell you that someone murdered my dad, and now look how she gets away with it, does that wording suggest to you approval of whoever murdered my father? I'm not sure I follow. The statement is made in natural language. If I wanted to parse it down to analyze it, I'd begin with semantics. To me it reads: F does atrocity, f gets …
/r/MensRights02/11/13 02:14 AM
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"Gets to use", "gets away with", "can use"
/r/MensRights01/11/13 07:23 PM
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The question is whether the promise you've described is even possible to fulfill.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 06:15 PM
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Yes and no. Yes because the stereotype arises out of misandry, but that doesn't mean the person making the inference is a misandrist. It is a case of stereotyping, and all stereotypes are unjustified (in spite of the common "seed of truth" bs that people sometimes refer to) therefore all inferences from stereotypes are fallacious. There's a difference between a justified generalization and a stereotype. A justified generalization is made on the basis of reliable evidence, while a stereotype is a…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 06:09 PM
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Wut...
/r/MensRights01/11/13 04:13 PM
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Not necessarily. It could just be a fallacious inference. Kind of like people assuming that is a person isn't male they're female, because they aren't aware that some people are both or neither.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 04:12 PM
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Only if you don't understand my comment.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 09:25 PM
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Ok, awesome. Now we're talkin'. Thank you. I've only perused this response (3 kids + halloween + grad school + 4 papers overdue = busy day. Ha.) But, I know right off the bat that to address it, I need a clarification. Namely, please explian: What is the MRA? How did it start? Who founded it, or coined the term? When and why? Are there any people or schools of thought who paved the way for it or are kind of prototypes of it? What kind of a thing is it: Is it 1 a group of people, so that it all t…
/r/MensRights31/10/13 09:22 PM
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Wouldn't MRA be a dead giveaway that it's a troll? Can you think of an equivalent term to use? I'm willing to do what you say. The thing is, I'm a feminist. So I might be biased in my interpretation. But, I haven't seen examples there of the type of egregious hostility toward a particular gender that I am referring to, here. Now, just because I haven't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't occurred. But, the point of my troll post was to try to demonstrate that the way the term "feminist" is used here …
/r/MensRights31/10/13 04:25 AM
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Oh, ok.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 11:54 PM
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The hypothetical person with a bad view if feminism who may read this.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 09:59 PM
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I have. No one listened. As soon as I mentioned the f word, people lost their willingness to have a discussion. But, yes, this has only been slightly more successful. Anyway, all I can do is put it out there and hope someone reads it and questions her assumptions.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 08:50 PM
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I was trolling, but honestly for the purpose of engaging in a discussion.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 08:34 PM
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But not one thing you said about feminism describes my beliefs, nor the beliefs of any feminist I know Funny factoid: there are no feminists. It's true. Every time you think you're talking to a feminist another feminist will come along and say that last person wasn't a real feminist. Then a third one will come along and say the second one wasn't a real feminist, then a fourth and so on ad infinitum. So feminists don't actually exist. It's funny that you mention this. Actually, this is insightful…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 08:17 PM
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I don't know any feminists that would be found in either of the last two locations, and I know an awful lot of feminists. Can you point me to one prolific feminist in contemporary society who has supported anything like that? I'm talking about today's leaders in feminist thought. I like philosophers but any notable feminist will do. I'm not denying that many aspects of our society are arranged so that men incur harm and injustice solely because they are men. But, feminism in the real sense total…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 08:00 PM
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Someone doing it "to waste time"? No. To get people to question their unreasonable assumptions? Why, yes, that's me!
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:46 PM
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Wow, I look like a very kind, intelligent person! Thanks for the suggestion! :-)
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:36 PM
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So feminists are on r/mensrights and other male advocacy groups?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 06:26 PM
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Actually, touche. Lol. I don't believe in the patriarchy as it's commonly construed.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 06:21 PM
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He could have used that money to open a domestic violence shelter for men.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 04:58 PM
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If he is not violent, he is an immediate counterexample. That is sufficient for refuting any universal claim. If his opposition responds that he is violent whether or not he knows it, he should say that being violent is not part of the definition of man, and that whether some man is violent is the type of thing we have to discover. It's not something with can know automatically. He should then demand proof that he has committed a violent act. End of argument. Btw, that is not a feminist claim. I…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 04:33 PM
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I was aware you were trolling, but in general on this sub you'll receive a pretty reasonable response to almost anything. It's because it's mostly men, who are by nature pretty reasonable. If we weren't feminists would never have been able to get away with half the damage they've done. I'm a graduate student in philosophy, which suggests I'm pretty reasonable. I plan to focus on the application of logical systems of deduction to the epistemic decision making processes. Guess I'm a freak of natur…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 04:25 PM
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Well, the jig is up or whatever, so I'll just respond. I'm an analytic feminist, and I'm really passionate about it. But not one thing you said about feminism describes my beliefs, nor the beliefs of any feminist I know. I wonder if you may be confusing feminism with something else, like people who psychotically hate men. I love men. I have a little boy. He has many classic boy traits in his personality, and he's very empathetic and sensitive. Already, his teachers label him as "abnormal" becaus…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 04:16 PM
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Oh hey, I'm trolling but I'm going to stop because you shared your experience. I'm really sorry you were in an abusive relationship. No one ever deserves that. I'm really glad to hear you found a way to process that. I can see how this sub would help with that, in the same way feminism has helped me. Well, the big joke was supposed to be that you guys are upset abt injustice (as anyone should be) but you use the term "Feminist" as if it were synonymous with "nazi". I'm a feminist, and I've never…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 04:05 PM
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Why doesn't the government stop them? I mean, seriously, I know our government is effed up but why didn't Canada or Sweden or somebidy do anything?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 03:44 PM
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Oh I get it. Jesus, what's the cause? I'm kind of afraid to even ask.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 03:35 PM
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They sound like monsters. I'm glad I've never met one. At least, if I did, it was like a sneaky one that hid its true nature. But, like, where the hell do they sign up to be feminists, and why would anyone do that? Why don't I ever see them anywhere? If I saw one I'd tell it the f#!k OFF. That crap is ridiculous. How did you find out about all that horrible crap happening? Did it happen to you? If so, I'm really sorry
/r/MensRights30/10/13 03:34 PM
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Oh, link? Because nobody cc'd me on that one.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 01:15 PM
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Did the central feminist organization state all this in a press release?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 01:09 PM
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Which group in particular are you indicating by "they"? Can you direct me to, like, a website for the organization?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 01:07 PM
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This post kind of makes it sound like men are jealous that they don't "get" to lie, murder, rape and steal...
/r/MensRights30/10/13 01:05 PM
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Induction directs us to conclude based on a preponderance the aggregate data. I.e. we accept the conclusion backed by the most evidence. Bio evidence 1 says "P" and bio evidence 2 says "not P". It can't be the case that "both P and not P" because that's a logical contradiction. Therefore we can conclude neither P nor not P: the evidence is inconclusive. Not only is that not fallacious, it's a necessary truth of Boolean logic. I suppose one could argue that it is an assumption made with a bias to…
/r/MensRights07/10/13 11:24 PM
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No prob. If you see it again and remember, send it my way.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 11:12 PM
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In which ways does that statement suggest that it's produced by fallacious reasoning or bias? Edited because incomprehensible
/r/MensRights07/10/13 11:11 PM
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Sorry, bad day. I wasn't very gentlemanly. http://www.ioe.ac.uk/60272.html http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10900998/?i=3&from=/16173891/related http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16173891/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19254079/?i=4&from=/20631322/related
/r/MensRights07/10/13 07:56 PM
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Would you mind pointing me to those papers? What you're saying contradicts what I've read on the issue. I'd like to look at the methodology. Have you read anything about implicit bias and stereotype threat? You may find it interesting. The research and literature doesn't discriminate against men in favor of women, at least as I remember.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 06:31 PM
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When you're right, you're right. And you're right.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 06:27 PM
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To be fair, I can understand why someone might come to that conclusion. However, the data from academic and professional research doesn't actually support that conclusion. It's true that many women find these fields to be unappealing. This could be explained by their biology or their respective cultures of origin. However, neither claim can actually explain the severe gender imbalance in these fields. It's unlikely that women's lack of desire to participate in these fields is due to biology: no …
/r/MensRights07/10/13 06:25 PM
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Who?
/r/MensRights07/10/13 11:17 AM
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You're inability to focus on his general point rather than random semantics and extreme literal-izations of what he said makes you the stupid one. He wasn't being metaphorical. Even if he had said, "We have centuries of observation showing butthurt blah blah", he would still be making a false claim worthy of ridicule. People also used to observe that blood-letting was beneficial to bodily health. They were wrong.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 10:34 AM
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Should we think the same thing about Hispanic and Black people and Native Americans, as well? Historically, they are even more underrepresented.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 09:49 AM
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EDIT TO ADD: can this ridiculous "hypothesis" explain the even more abysmal representation of Black, Native American, and Hispanic people in those same industries? Are you saying they bear some genetic predisposition toward not liking fields that require analysis? How very "white man's burden" of you to think. Thank you Columbus. Also, how do you explain that girls are now outpacing boys in these areas? There is absolutely no non-anecdotal data supporting this claim. There are, however, dozens o…
/r/MensRights07/10/13 09:39 AM
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You're stupid. Seriously , I don't get what it is about this that people have suddenly forgotten after tens of thousands of years of observation : Women have much less interest in things like machines , computers , mathematics and so on... Tens of thousands of years? How much do you think that PC from the Paleolithic era is going for on ebay? Oh, by the way, could you direct me to the records from before recorded history that confirm your claim? How did you even manage to type this comment?
/r/MensRights07/10/13 07:54 AM
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Um, "all that bs about shelter" and "it's a parent's responsibility to provide that, not child support's"? Who the fuck is child support? It's not a person. YOU are a parent, supposedly. That's why you pay child support.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 05:37 AM
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I don't understand how that follows...
/r/MensRights04/09/13 04:18 AM
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