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Discussionmirazatha/r/MensRights27/05/14 08:19 AM
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After thinking about your response a bit I think I have found at least one point where there has been a misunderstanding. I agree with the end goals you have stated ( finding common ground and respecting each other) I just think there has to be a series of smaller changes over a longer period of time. I also think that by comparing the differences and changing how things are gandered we can either find or even create new common ground. As for the final paragraph you wrote, I do not identify as a…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 08:40 PM
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You are correct, both men and women had to fight for the right to vote. I was not trying to dismiss the struggles of the women who fought for their right to vote. Hmmm. How do I explain my views. If poor people had to work in the fields for two years to get the right to vote, but rich people could just pay some arbitrary amount of money to get out of it (which I am pretty sure is also happening in most places today, money in politics and bribes need to be cracked down on way more) would you cons…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 08:16 PM
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Absolutely agree regarding money and politics. My personal belief is that no one should have to enroll for shit. Unfortunately, politicians almost globally refuse to get rid of things like the draft or selective service or whatever. So I think the best we can do is a selective service thing everyone is enrolled in. People of any gender should be able to opt out of combat duties for ethical or religious reasons (although from my personal experience with most religious adherents, the line between …
/r/MensRights22/06/21 08:04 PM
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I think the issue is that you are focused only on the rights with no attention paid to the responsibilities that were often attached to them. Men as a class were not just given the right to vote, it was a result of mass conscription during ww1 (I believe) and men saying “why should I fight and die for something I have no say in?”. Then women were given the vote because everyone should have a say in the society they live in (a sentiment I agree with), but there was no removal or update or talk ab…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 07:05 PM
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a little bit slow on that one dude. also, satire
/r/MensRights29/09/14 10:40 PM
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i find myself questioning the validity of your position based on this comment you made in r/femradebates: Forget about double standards for a moment. Can't you think of any situation in which it would be okay if a 30 year old teacher had sex with a 13 year old boy? Society can think what it wants but I'll always think it's okay. I mean, I wanted to have sex with all my female teachers when I was 13 lol.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 08:37 PM
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And what if it's the guy being victimized?
/r/MensRights21/07/14 05:36 PM
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maybe? im not quite sure. i know just enough to know i dont really understand it but still know it would be very much unhealthy for us
/r/MensRights29/06/14 10:39 PM
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im going to copy/paste my answer from r/femradebates here because its still the same answer not really. what rattles me is that multiple countries have weaponized smallpox strains and all it takes is one person infected to cause an entire global pandemic that could wipe out up to 90% of humanity in about a year. or that Saggitarius A (ironically the point of the arrow of the archer constellation) is most likely going to give off a gamma ray burst when it goes supernova, and the blast will be poi…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 10:22 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/wiki/support this page has a list of sites run by mrm affiliated organizations. you wont find the mrm mentioned anywhere because certain groups have convinced the media that we are a hate group, so any organization saying they are affiliated is greatly hindered.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 09:55 PM
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but they would be willing to read multi page essays and things? because thats what they would need to understand anything. videos are actually way shorter if you want to get an idea of this stuff
/r/MensRights29/06/14 09:45 PM
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why?
/r/MensRights29/06/14 09:38 PM
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Could you use a shrink ray for circumcisions without circumcisions? Like shrink the top so it looks like it's gonna but then when you want it or need it use like an unshrinky ray to bring it back and then tuck it away afterwards with another application of the shrink ray?
/r/MensRights26/06/14 05:40 PM
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Why do so many people not like fgm?
/r/MensRights26/06/14 04:51 PM
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i thought i was MGTOW for a while but ive always just been un-interested in relationships so i figured im just crazy, i can kind of understand where your coming from though. i was like the relationship counsellor for my friends when we were younger (i have no idea why) and after watching all the problems that people had in relationships i was really just confused as to why anyone would submit themselves to that
/r/MensRights25/06/14 10:24 PM
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check out r/MGTOW and the entire MGTOW movement. its full of people in the same place you are
/r/MensRights25/06/14 10:11 PM
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So this is why I wanted to ask you guys what would you think about creating related subreddits to focus on male issues on minorities and another one for the LGBT folk sure. sounds good. go do it, you really dont need our permission
/r/MensRights24/06/14 01:24 PM
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thats priceless. and the tagline for the site is "we cant concentrate and neither should you". that puts it barely one step above the onion. its too satirical to get a feel if they are actually anti men, actually anti women, or just being crazy (although im betting on the third)
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:04 AM
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egalitarianism
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:00 AM
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17 million
/r/MensRights21/06/14 01:53 PM
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this was also posted on r/femradebates. david futrelle, or at least someone using his name, is over there now if you want to debate him
/r/MensRights21/06/14 08:11 AM
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We should focus on fixing issues then post stuff that focuses on that
/r/MensRights20/06/14 06:47 AM
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?
/r/MensRights20/06/14 06:43 AM
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most of those "examples" are bullshit. and what little is left does not make a "rape culture". do some people do those things? yes, but they are assholes, and you cannot completely rid the world of assholes. most of society is not like that. go out and actually look around you with unbiased eyes instead of looking for whatever you already want to see
/r/MensRights20/06/14 06:38 AM
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ok, i read this, and i didnt understand. so i got high. now im reading it again. it STILL makes no sense. what are you saying? its too rambly!
/r/MensRights20/06/14 12:10 AM
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THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY TO LIMIT YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING RAPED! THE ONLY THING SELF DEFENSE CAN DO IS STOP IT IN THE IMMEDIATE MOMENT! which, you know, stops the rape from happening Feminists do not Fucking oppose self defense but the IDEA of it and what it entails what, being responsible for yourself? RAPE CULTURE SAYS: A WOMAN WALKING ALONE WILL GET RAPED THEREFORE NEEDS TO LEARN SELF DEFENSE. THOSE SCENARIOS DO NOT HAPPEN THAT OFTEN self defence works just as well against you friend/acquainta…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 11:13 PM
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self defense lets you defend yourself from people you know too. it also helps you have the confidence to be WILLING to defend yourself from people you know. is self defense a cure-all? no. will it help? yes. By saying "just learn self defense" you're ignoring that rape happens to EVERYONE by EVERYONE and the most common form of rape is rape by someone the victim knows not stranger rape. no, by saying "learn self defence" your helping someone limit their chances of getting raped. your confusing a…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:53 PM
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in fact, i would have been far LESS likely to make an accusation of assault, because i would have felt like i deserved it if it happened to me. i would have been more likely to do so, because i wouldnt have cared about repercussions. having something like this doesnt mean you cant be trusted, but it does have to be taken into account. this guy is obviously a moron. maybe so, but your the one arguing with him on the internet
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:05 PM
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i have depression and was once suicidal. me too. are you seriously saying that you had good judgment when you were in that state? because i sure as fuck didnt
/r/MensRights19/06/14 09:55 PM
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poes law
/r/MensRights19/06/14 09:49 PM
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theirs only trolls on the internet. Its not exclusive. ummm ok
/r/MensRights18/06/14 10:22 PM
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lego lets you build whatever you want. its only sexist, or racist, or anything else if you build it that way
/r/MensRights18/06/14 07:12 PM
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theirs only trolls on the internet. i call bullshit. i troll people IRL all the time. its way more fun when you get to see their faces
/r/MensRights18/06/14 04:27 PM
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if you dont like them you shouldnt type like them
/r/MensRights18/06/14 01:37 PM
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this stuff is why i love 4chan
/r/MensRights18/06/14 11:43 AM
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Obviously inorganic is superior, meatsack. ;) you will be assimilated. resistance is futile
/r/MensRights16/06/14 08:42 PM
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please note: the following answer will have little to do with either feminism or the MRM Does anyone else hate that we can't all just be people, judged individually, without regard to our bodies? i do. i really, really agree with this. this is why i am waiting for the trans-humanist movement to really kick off. science and technology are progressing to the point where its almost possible for people to actually fuclly change their gender, cybernetics and prosthetics are becoming more and more adv…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 08:33 PM
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The problem I have with the "whit men are privileged" thing is that "white men" comprises a large number of groups that all hate each other. Irish and English, French and... Everyone, things like that. "White men" is NOT a group of people who get along, and this assumption that they do and what's more actually help each other out is just stupid
/r/MensRights16/06/14 02:04 AM
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It wouldn't have negatively affected me in any way can you prove that? and even if you can, can you prove that its like that for even a majority of people? either way, the reason the laws on STATUTORY RAPE are because we do not think CHILDREN are responsible enough to make that decision for themselves when influenced by an ADULT. if we accept this as true, then it stands for both sides. if we dont accept this as true, then we have to deny it for both sides. YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. i dont rea…
/r/MensRights15/06/14 06:35 AM
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What's an FRA?
/r/MensRights14/06/14 02:19 AM
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sigh
/r/MensRights11/06/14 10:12 PM
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Down voted solely because of the begging for up votes
/r/MensRights10/06/14 12:12 AM
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so I don't know if I haven't heard of it because I'm from the UK entirely possible. i think its a us thing that has been kind of bleeding into canada (where i am) like well pretty much everything from the us. Their approach to domestic violence looks reasonable but it excludes the very real existence of domestic violence towards men by women, women by women or men by men thats my take on it too, you would be surprised how many people miss that. I'm confused by the 'using male privilege' section …
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:08 PM
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since you are a self-described feminist, i would like to take this opportunity to ask you what your views are on the duluth model of domestic violence and dominant aggressor laws
/r/MensRights09/06/14 10:09 PM
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Why can't feminism and the Mens Rights Movement work together, as brother and sister in the battle for equality? We let feminism raise attention for female problems, we raise attention for male problems, and we leave the radical side of both groups out of it. What's stopping this? whats stopping this is that their "fixes" to female problems cause problems for men. ie: the duluth model of domestic violence, dominant aggressor laws, the stripping of due procees and "beyond a reasonable doubt" for …
/r/MensRights09/06/14 08:22 PM
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Feminism has brought women the right to vote only kind of true. the majority of people opposing this were actually women who were afraid that they would get included into the draft when they got the vote (since men got the vote due to most of them being sent off to die in ww1 for countries they couldnt vote in) and almost as soon as more women wanted the vote than didnt want it they got it without the responsibility of the draft to go along with it divorce, control their own damn bodies i will g…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:29 AM
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the duluth model of domestic violence, or dominant aggressor laws, or the "preponderance of evidence" (aka 50.01% sure rather than than legal systems "beyond a reasonable doubt" which is like 99%) what have you done to fight these? your so busy fighting to "keep feminism" that your letting the people who use feminism to their own ends do bad things in your name while your having stupid arguments like this
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:22 AM
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i put n/a for the last one because its been every age ive made it to so far and i see no reason its going to change
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:19 AM
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ok. im up for this then
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:08 AM
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there are two different feminisms: the one that most people think of when they hear "feminism" which is a bunch of people who say "yeah i believe in equality! what? that means im a feminist? ok!" and then there is the feminism that gets things like the duluth model of domestic violence, or dominant aggressor laws, or the "preponderance of evidence" (aka 50.01% sure rather than than legal systems "beyond a reasonable doubt" which is like 99%) in colleges passed. people like you who go around sayi…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:07 AM
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redditor for 42 min, only posted here, weird ass poll... im not gonna answer
/r/MensRights08/06/14 11:59 PM
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can you give me a little more information on what this is for?
/r/MensRights08/06/14 11:58 PM
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R/mgtow
/r/MensRights08/06/14 05:43 PM
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Studies show statistics are made up 43.2848692827% of the time
/r/MensRights07/06/14 09:17 PM
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There kind of is. Misanthrop means a hatred of humanity as a whole, while misogynist and misandrist both refer to a single group. Saying he was a misanthrop and a misogynist is like saying he hated men and women and women
/r/MensRights07/06/14 07:36 PM
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So what, exactly, is "the conditioning of masculine"? I'm not disagreeing, just asking for clarification
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:48 PM
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but... then what am i supposed to say??? what are you leaving me with??? i need at least one word for something dammit, you cant leave me with none!!!
/r/MensRights06/06/14 07:43 PM
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oh come on, if your going to troll at least put some effort in. write some stuff up! make the other side think your genuine to start, then turn on this stuff. give us some content to really argue against you with, let us get some stuff rolling. this is one of the lowest effort troll posts ive seen in ages. 0/10
/r/MensRights06/06/14 07:35 PM
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to be fair, its entirely possible (i would say even likely) that the prosecutors are just doing this so they can make more money
/r/MensRights06/06/14 07:30 PM
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sadly, its not. someone actually published a paper on it and somehow got it through academias admittedly fairly flimsy filters
/r/MensRights06/06/14 07:07 PM
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sigh. http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/File:Nuclear_Facepalm.jpg first off, theres no such thing as a femanon. anons have no gender, thats part of the point. anon have no gender, race, age, country, religion, or anything else. second, "tits or GTFO" is more along the lines of a password/codephrase than anything else. what you are supposed to do is go off to the internet (or considering this is 4chan, the cache of images they assume you have on your drive), pull up a picture of some random tits, …
/r/MensRights06/06/14 07:04 PM
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im not sillymod but: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Black_candles_Speyer_1.jpg
/r/MensRights05/06/14 08:17 PM
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holy shit. that was awesome, and what i was trying to say but better. well done
/r/MensRights05/06/14 08:09 PM
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its totally possible for men and women to be equal to each other. all that is needed is for both sides to acknowledge that rights come with an equal amount of responsibilities
/r/MensRights05/06/14 07:02 PM
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if you want to understand what the deal is, try growing up and not focusing on sex as the only important thing in life
/r/MensRights05/06/14 07:01 PM
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and you comparing a getting a job to joining a social equality movement sounds really dumb to me
/r/MensRights05/06/14 06:49 PM
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if the only thing you care about is getting laid, then you shouldnt be involved in ANY social equality movements. if your going to be involved in something, do it because you either enjoy it or truly believe that its the right thing to do. if your just "saying the right stuff at the right time" so you can "get pussy", then you will do more harm than good to any movement you join
/r/MensRights05/06/14 06:46 PM
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if you really think that she is a misogynist after watching her videos, i dont think there is anything i can say as a random voice on the internet to convince you otherwise. i was using her as an example because... to me she seemed to be really about equality unlike someone like paul elam yeah, theres alot of shit floating around. theres a few people here that ive actually trained myself to ignore because they really are misogynists edit: nope never mind i was just blind
/r/MensRights05/06/14 01:48 AM
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ok i think i understand now. so your saying karen straughn is a misogynist? edit: also, im surprised you missed out on posting the "then my dad sold him" bit to AMR, that seems like it would have been a perfect chance
/r/MensRights05/06/14 01:12 AM
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sure, but the "friends" are never leaders. your equating a "token friend" to someone who has huge support from a large group of people
/r/MensRights05/06/14 12:56 AM
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"then my dad sold him" right?
/r/MensRights05/06/14 12:45 AM
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great, so putin is anti-women as well as anti-LGBTQ. and annexing nearby land. this is off to a WONDERFUL start /s
/r/MensRights05/06/14 12:28 AM
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one of the leading members of the MRM is Karen Straughn so no, i dont think we are misogynists
/r/MensRights04/06/14 11:05 PM
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What people in this subreddit fail to see is that when those women's issues are dealt with, due to second and third line of effects, men's issues also correct themselves. Feminism is a movement that is beneficial to both men and women. i would like you to explain to me how the duluth model of domestic violence and dominant aggressor laws came from patriarchy, or how those two things fixes the issue of male abuse being swept under the rug edit: said and, meant or
/r/MensRights04/06/14 06:43 PM
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eradicated? no. reduced? yeah. your argument is like saying "well perfection should never be reached so we should never try bettering ourselves"
/r/MensRights04/06/14 03:22 PM
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ok?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:31 PM
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theres a subreddit for almost everything. its like an offshoot of rule 34
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:50 AM
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do you read r/darkenlightenment?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:40 AM
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"The Elders of Zion" sounds like a supervilan group
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:41 AM
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what about male disposability?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:36 AM
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and men face no other issues?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:29 AM
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could you elaborate on that for me? i was hoping to understand your position so i could better explain ours to you
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:26 AM
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question: what issues do you think men face in todays society?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:23 AM
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im obsolete now? awesome. no more moving heavy things for women just because im a man, no more pressure to be "good enough" for a woman to deign to see me as a possible partner, and no more responsibility to put myself in danger to protect someone else. i can get behind this
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:20 AM
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personally i see the MRM as a movement that advocates not only equal rights, but also equal responsibility. i dont think that we live in a matriarchy (thats almost as stupid as i think patriarchy is) but i do think we live in a society where people have forgotten that in addition to the rights you get for being an adult, an equal number of responsibilities comes with them
/r/MensRights03/06/14 02:53 AM
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you said you didnt understand how it was legally enforced, and i explained to you how it was
/r/MensRights03/06/14 02:50 AM
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ah. personally i dont believe in either patriarchy or gynocentrism. they both seem... i guess like thoughts taken not quite far enough. neither gender has it better or worse than the others as a whole, its just the elite (rich, socially powerful, etc) who get all the benefits and everybody else can rot
/r/MensRights03/06/14 02:30 AM
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legally, the draft. or selective service or whatever its called now. this is actually the reason that it took women so long to get the vote after men, a large group of women fought against it because they were afraid that to get the vote they would have to pay for it in the same way men did (men got it by being drafted for WW1, mostly getting killed off, and whoever survived and future men were given the vote in case the draft was needed again, like with WW2) almost as soon as more women wanted …
/r/MensRights03/06/14 02:27 AM
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Well I was trying to debate "gynocentrism". Its not a who has it worse competition. I am not saying that men do not have that problem. I am saying that it worse for women what?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 02:22 AM
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geek culture has a problem with the people, or even type of people, who used to mock and belittle them for being geeks suddenly deciding that they want to be geeks now that its become "cool" to be one. its a group of people who were marginalized by society, created their own space, and now the rest of society is going "let me into your space!!!!"
/r/MensRights02/06/14 03:06 PM
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troll?
/r/MensRights01/06/14 11:43 PM
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yup. if i wasnt a little bit crazy i would have gone completely crazy ages ago
/r/MensRights01/06/14 04:46 AM
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a little bit of crazy helps you deal with this world without getting too stressed
/r/MensRights01/06/14 03:58 AM
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... has the story about the time travelling alien that has a magic phone booth bigger inside than out who knows and has been involved in every significant event in history been getting more sexist? how the fuck would you even tell?
/r/MensRights01/06/14 03:36 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9PiqCeLEmM NO ONE gets respect from comedians, thats why their comedians
/r/MensRights31/05/14 04:57 PM
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your probably right, but i dont really make any important points in it anyways so im just going to leave it as is and let it die
/r/MensRights31/05/14 04:52 PM
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ooooooooooooo reason rather than issues. i understand now, i completely missed that sorry. well i guess my base reason would be because i have severe depression, and it started at the latest in grade 5. i also had trust issues, so i didnt normally talk to people. and instead of anyone even considering there was something wrong, i often got complimented on how i never complained or anything, which... did not do good things for my psyche. by the time i had my suicide attempt after i entered univer…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 04:44 PM
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post from an account with a history and i will discuss with you. post from something you made less than an hour ago and it would be ill-advised to trust you given the history of trolls on this sub
/r/MensRights31/05/14 04:27 PM
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i can refuse to discuss it with you no matter what i think
/r/MensRights31/05/14 04:11 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/26wbol/reddit_survey_what_are_the_issues_important_to/
/r/MensRights31/05/14 04:09 PM
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i think its more likely that the zero day account is a troll
/r/MensRights31/05/14 04:08 PM
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quoting eliot rodgers: "i am the closest thing to a living god on this planet" he wasnt feminist, he wasnt mra, he wasnt anything except crazy. why do people always feel the need to blame a group for something like this?
/r/MensRights31/05/14 04:07 PM
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... its a single button click. if your really that lazy, i dont expect you to read my post anyways
/r/MensRights31/05/14 03:59 PM
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as far as ive ever seen it only happens when someone thinks your really stupid
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:47 PM
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... not if you change it to display them by newest rather than vote
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:36 PM
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ok, so i deleted my comment in the other thread once i realized this one existed, so im just going to respond to the ones i have something to say on here 2: im not really set on LPS exactly, but i do seriously agree that there needs to be some kind of equivalent for men 8: i was going to say changing or re-adressing but... you beat me to it so yeah 14: as much as i support it, and i do, its really not an MRM issue, and probably not even the kind of thing the MRM should get involved in 16: no, b …
/r/MensRights30/05/14 08:21 PM
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And your deliberately missing the point. Goodbye
/r/MensRights30/05/14 07:26 PM
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"Any MRA worth his salt", "real MRAs" Promoting groupthink with shaming language
/r/MensRights30/05/14 06:51 PM
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we have enough actual mental problems without making up stupid shit like this
/r/MensRights30/05/14 06:24 PM
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whether you are right or not, i think the MRM can do without this kind of groupthink
/r/MensRights30/05/14 05:58 PM
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emotions and intuition are guides, nothing more. its how you act on them that matters. i guess we just have a difference of philosophy edit: also, nothing ever "just is". the worlds not that simple
/r/MensRights30/05/14 05:50 PM
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lol yeah thats just an auto-bot that does this for every self-post no matter who it is or what its about. you dont have to worry
/r/MensRights30/05/14 05:40 PM
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So a lifetime's intuition on this is wrong? just because instinct tells you something does not mean its right. like people flight or fight reaction, which can be triggered by all kinds of things. or if someone hurts you accidentally, and you get mad at them even though it was an accident. Can you honestly say you haven't had a similar intuition yourself? of course ive felt that way. that doesnt mean i wasnt wrong too. you can feel things even if you know you shouldent. like people with phobias, …
/r/MensRights30/05/14 05:38 PM
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in my ideal society people would accept that the only thing about a person that actually matters is their mind. im rather looking forward to the days of transhumanism when this gets thrown in everyones faces
/r/MensRights30/05/14 05:31 PM
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if that was your only reason for being relieved, then kind of yeah. its like being afraid of an anaconda but not a rattlesnake edit: not that im saying you should be afraid of anyone. but you should be wary. its like diplomacy, 'trust but verify'
/r/MensRights30/05/14 05:01 PM
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ugh. i was eating grapes until i read that
/r/MensRights30/05/14 04:33 PM
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If your doing any of this stuff GBH is if your lucky. Manslaughter is a slip up away at best. But I'd rather be alive and in jail than dead and... Dead
/r/MensRights30/05/14 04:06 PM
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As someone with a black belt, this whole "women are less threatening/dangerous" thing is just stupid. It take only 6 psi to crush someone's windpipe and kill them. It takes even less to remove or permanently damage an eye. It takes a bit more but is well within almost everybody's capabilities to snap a joint like a knee or an elbow. It's almost as easy to drive shards of cartilage and bone into someone's brain with a strike to the nose. People as a whole are dangerous, and absolutely anyone can …
/r/MensRights30/05/14 03:21 PM
1

Testicles also produce a special chemical when they get hit that does nothing but cause lingering pain (that why even when you get hit lightly in the balls the pain lingers so long) in this case nature itself is adding insult to injury
/r/MensRights30/05/14 03:14 PM
0

source?
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:43 AM
2

well, yeah. but they catch enough that we know it exists
/r/MensRights29/05/14 02:02 PM
25

... because cops catch the trafficking rings
/r/MensRights29/05/14 01:47 PM
1

Yeah it's not today. Seriously. People now get very upset if you act like you have a right to tell them what to do with your child, wether you are right in what your saying or not
/r/MensRights29/05/14 12:38 PM
2

Eh, only in the last couple posts. At that point I decided you were trolling, until I thought maybe you were just old enough that you grew up with these ideas. Now, are you willing to answer?
/r/MensRights29/05/14 12:20 PM
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Honest question this time, how old are you? Because depending on the answer that could explain a lot
/r/MensRights29/05/14 12:14 PM
1

Alright where I'm from it's every grown man and woman's job to make sure the kids behave right what a wonderfully cult-like idea. who exactly decides what right and wrong are? If I see some kid coming in here, whether it be a pussy hanging out or a pecker swinging around, you can be sure I'm going to go ahead and call the parents. so your planning on getting peoples names from their payment methods, using that to find their numbers, and then calling their houses when they dont know who you are. …
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:56 AM
2

... i guess you could say it would go to his estate along with everything else he owned? i mean the estate is supposed to handle the corpse and everything so i guess it would have control over this too. im not a lawyer though so im not really sure, and it does seem a little odd to me but hey
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:46 AM
3

the real world
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:43 AM
2

and the policeman is an obsessed stalker when he runs a number plate the policeman is doing his job, your job as a store manager is to run the store, not police the clothing of your customers This is normal adult supervision. Taking responsibility you dont do that for people who are not under your care. how have you gotten this far in life and not realized that?
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:42 AM
3

I handled it discretely without scarring the young lady. having a random guy at a store call your house and talk about how they saw your body is waaaaaaay more likely to scare her than having a guy in a store say "hey, your dressed indecently"
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:40 AM
2

you got someones name off of a card they were using to pay you for a service at a store, went off and found their number, called up a house of people you didnt know, and started talking about their daughters body. that is not the path to get a positive response. it makes you come across as either obsessed or a stalker
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:37 AM
3

do you actually not see anything wrong with how you handled that?
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:24 AM
3

in todays world, and with the way you went about it, yes
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:18 AM
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if its that bad and you have a problem with it call the cops. dont note who she is, wait till you check her out at the cash, get her name, find her number, and call her house. thats... seriously creepy. and i say that as someone who normally delights in creeping people out, this one is totally over the line
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:14 AM
1

yeah your a douchbag. fuck off.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 06:13 AM
1

that i would probably agree with. i wouldnt agree that they are using it to benefit other men though. there were studies done on group bias in the genders, and women were found to react much more favourably to other women than to men, and men were found to react much more favourably to women than to other men
/r/MensRights28/05/14 11:27 PM
1

its interesting that people think men are the majority when women make up more than 50% of the population
/r/MensRights28/05/14 10:11 PM
1

oh fox...
/r/MensRights28/05/14 09:23 PM
1

I'm not sure. In 2011 according to the FBI there was an average of 40 homicides a day so...
/r/MensRights28/05/14 09:08 AM
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im asking you to back up your claim that such notions are pervasive. i dont care what method you use, just give me evidence. if you actually prove it, i will admit you are correct and i will work on ways to fix it
/r/MensRights28/05/14 08:47 AM
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a) can you give me some examples of this hate speech? b) not really, the only way to stop people from saying shit is to remove freedom of speech. the best we can do is downvote it
/r/MensRights28/05/14 03:38 AM
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1) its not. im not actually sure what goes on there as ive never gone, but i get the impression its for women who support the MRM to talk about the issues they face as women supporting the MRM 2) there are basically two parts to this answer a) a lot of people here either used to be feminists or wanted to join feminism, went into those spaces, and either brought up or asked about mens issues to be met with some not very positive responses and b) some feminist organization really have done things …
/r/MensRights28/05/14 03:29 AM
2

you mean like aileen wuornos? who most people agree was just crazy and not a feminist?
/r/MensRights28/05/14 03:16 AM
2

Where this is coming from is I never suspected in my lifetime that who I was as a person, streight, white, male, would be some thing that people would hold against me. In large numbers at that...and institutionalised. I think THATS fucking crazy. aha. ok yeah if this is your first time seeing something like this i can understand how you would respond this way. for me though, this is the third time a group i was a part of has been blamed for something like this, so i think im pretty sure whats go…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:53 AM
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so show me some of the tweets then. surely you can at least find a large number of those that display actual problems to show how prevelant these ideas are even if you dont have studies with you
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:45 AM
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the first one reminds me of the white rhino party canada used to have. they had ideas like cut newfoundland off from its base and float it down south for the summers, and build a giant wall blocking off the north atlantic current "because thats where the cold comes from". it was priceless
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:43 AM
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but I think its a springboard to dispel toxic notions held by men toward women that are pervasive in today's society can you provide some evidence to back up your claim that such notions are pervasive?
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:37 AM
1

and your point is?
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:26 AM
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This however does not matter to women as a whole though, because they are creatures of emotion, and not reason You cannot win against the group-think madness of women, and they are an acendant power in the western world. You are bit players in a culture war that will engulf the world, leaving totalitarian slavery in its wake. They will castrate men spiritually and mentally, if not physically. It has already begun in schools. A whole generation of men will be essentially neutered crazy warnings. …
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:20 AM
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I am not stopping, though, because I am tired of feminists labeling anyone who stands up for men the enemy. This is a easy and emotional cop out for not wanting to deal with the opposition. I will continue pestering them about it, from the inside (because this will give me more influence), and maybe someone will listen to me one day. if thats true (and thats not me doubting you, its just me being jaded bitter and cynical) you are one of the best examples of humankind possible. i wish you good lu…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:15 AM
1

you sound really fucking crazy... and almost as much a zealot as you claim feminists are
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:04 AM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oybAUKZhaMA i think this covers it nicely
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:02 AM
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a large number of people who are on this sub are here because they used to be feminists, spoke up for mens problems in feminist spaces, and got kicked out or harassed until they left. those of us like that are hesitant to talk to feminists because of two main reasons: 1) we are not sure if which of you is really looking for an honest discussion or just trolling us [from what i have seen on this sub its probably around 50/50] and 2) the old once burned twice shy thing
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:00 AM
1

well, its true that reverse sexism does not exist. same with reverse racism and other things. its just fucking sexism and racism. god i hate people
/r/MensRights28/05/14 01:55 AM
1

yup. thats exactly what happened to my guy
/r/MensRights28/05/14 01:41 AM
1

Who would have ever believed feminists could rip the New Atheist movement apart everyone who didnt take part in it
/r/MensRights27/05/14 11:26 AM
1

Nobody says after they hear about a plane crash in the news, "OMG, flying is so unsafe. It's an epidemic. What can we do to improve technology to stop these plane crashes?!" ive seen people do that. in all honesty, that kind of reaction is incredibly common
/r/MensRights27/05/14 09:56 AM
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no one can ever speak for everyone, especially in a group as large as this. there is guaranteed to be at least one person disagree with you, even if its just because they can
/r/MensRights27/05/14 08:58 AM
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i just thought this would be helpful given whats going on lately, and didnt want it to just get buried in the mega-thread because this seems really useful
/r/MensRights27/05/14 08:21 AM
2

it should trigger some self-reflection about the views your movement espouses citation needed
/r/MensRights27/05/14 07:43 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE4rKWAX4dw long term probably a good one
/r/MensRights27/05/14 07:05 AM
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it takes about 6 psi to crush someones windpipe. children are capable of generating this kind of force. power might be part of the equation of violence, but its only part. edit: hell, if you hit someone in the chest at the wrong time you can accidentally stop their heart. i was refereeing a karate match that that actually happened in. creepiest moment of my life, watching the guy literally just shut down and drop to the floor dead, only to seize and have his heart restart
/r/MensRights27/05/14 06:42 AM
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"There have been 71 mass murders in the US since 1982, and 70 of them we carried out by men. Most of them are white men; this is not a coincidence, it's telling us something about our culture" white people do seem to have the most people on the "these people are really fucked up and twisted" list, but as for the spree killings and mass murder the main explanation i have seen for the differences in gender are more just down to weapon choice, the women tend to choose things like poison and become …
/r/MensRights27/05/14 06:37 AM
3

citation needed
/r/MensRights27/05/14 06:33 AM
6

media Jews umm what?
/r/MensRights27/05/14 03:25 AM
2

You deal with it by educating others and ignoring that one. Some people cannot be convinced to change their minds, that's why there are still people who believe the world is flat
/r/MensRights26/05/14 08:59 PM
1

well thats going to be a fairly moderated sub /s
/r/MensRights26/05/14 08:28 PM
1

you only got banned from r/feminism? when i got banned i got banned from r/askfeminists along with it
/r/MensRights26/05/14 08:06 PM
2

A little of column a, a little of column b. not all feminists are working against men's rights, and I don't even think most of the ones that are are doing it with any sort of intent, I think it's just a byproduct of being hyper-focused on one side of the equation
/r/MensRights26/05/14 07:13 PM
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... I'm not really sure he was sane enough to get that far in a thought process. In my opinion it seems like he thought everyone's attention was always on him anyways, an therefore anything that was or wasn't done to/for him was on purpose. It's hard to bend your mind to get inside these guys heads though
/r/MensRights26/05/14 07:08 PM
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Eh. There was a petition to build a Death Star too, and that one actually got enough signatures to elicit a response. Anyone can start any petition they want, by itself it doesn't really mean anything. Especially since there are only like 400 signatures on it
/r/MensRights26/05/14 07:06 PM
2

I dunno, nature? Reality? The world sucks, civilization is the struggle to make it less sucky
/r/MensRights26/05/14 06:59 PM
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A) I'm going to assume you just don't know anything about either of those. While I am tempted to take a page from the feminist play book and just say "educate yourself", I will however give you a brief explanation. The Duluth model of domestic violence is a model based off of a single instance that happened in a town called Duluth, hence the name. It says that the only people even capable of abusing others are men, an that women are only victims. This lead to the creation of "dominant aggressor"…
/r/MensRights26/05/14 06:52 PM
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for starters, the duluth model of domestic violence and dominant agressor laws
/r/MensRights26/05/14 05:29 PM
2

should the video game industry have done something like that after the columbine shooting? or how about the music industry all the times different types of music got blamed for this?
/r/MensRights26/05/14 05:22 PM
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oh. your one of these. never mind, ignore my other responses to you
/r/MensRights26/05/14 05:17 PM
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this had nothing to do with patriarchy. the guy had extreme narcissism and an almost messianic-level superiority complex. people who are mentally healthy dont do this kind of stuff. this is a mindset that you can only find in people who already have problems. blaming patriarchy like you are is no different from people who claimed video games caused columbine
/r/MensRights26/05/14 05:15 PM
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If the patriarchal view that women owe pathetic men sex is a mental illness then he's very sick. It's not though, it is a perfect example of how if this society wasn't so misogynistic this kid would understand that women aren't evil for disregarding his creepy ass. This also isn't the first time a boy killed a girl for not giving him affection. That's why we need to teach men to deal with rejection rather than tell girls to suck dicks to avoid possible murder. you implied it
/r/MensRights26/05/14 05:12 PM
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are you actually interested in discussing or are you just trolling? your history or lack thereof has me suspicious
/r/MensRights26/05/14 05:10 PM
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The man was a sociopath narcissist with a messianic level superiority complex. kind of similar, but different enough to be noted
/r/MensRights26/05/14 04:56 PM
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im sorry, but 9/10 if you attacked a child in front of their mother the mother would fucking KILL you. getting a broken jaw from the parent of a child you are assaulting is getting off light. you have a right to not be attacked, but the moment you attack someone else first that protection ends, and if you attack a child then all bets are off because you are now simply a child-abusing monster
/r/MensRights26/05/14 04:54 PM
1

he missed high a bit and probably broke the floating ribs
/r/MensRights26/05/14 04:49 PM
2

your NAME is "the master troll". go away
/r/MensRights26/05/14 04:45 PM
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misanthrope. all other people were objects to this guy, its just that women still had some value to him as objects where men were just trash
/r/MensRights25/05/14 09:14 PM
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ok, i just watched the last video he left on youtube. this guy is just crazy. he has a messianic-level superiority complex just like one of the columbine guys did (cant remember of the top of my head which one it was). he just happened to pick women to blame, it could literally have been absolutely ANYTHING, as long as it was something outside of himself so that he would not have to face the fact that he had faults.people on that level of crazy are so far away from the normal human mindset that …
/r/MensRights25/05/14 09:08 PM
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the term i have seen the academic feminists use is "phallo-centric logic"
/r/MensRights25/05/14 08:47 PM
2

i thought victim blaming was a no-no
/r/MensRights25/05/14 08:21 PM
3

... For my high school graduation a bunch of girls did this exact same thing for their dresses. If they seriously see guys as just another commodity then I don't think going to a new place is going to help them find someone
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:12 PM
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I'm against it for the same reason I'm against doing appendectomies on infants. Unless there is an actual medical reason, you should not remove part of someone's body without their consent. Once someone is old enough to make the decision on their own I have no problem with it.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 10:48 PM
5

do you support the Duluth model of domestic violence?
/r/MensRights01/05/14 10:49 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLNdMY1JlR0
/r/MensRights01/05/14 07:07 PM
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its pretty much the same thing. i pontifacate a lot when i get high. i mean, i pontificate on EVERYTHING, and can do it basically until i sober up. but all of it is complete and utter bullshit that even i dont really pay attention to
/r/MensRights01/05/14 07:06 PM
2

i think it might be u/fallingsnowangel. it sounds a lot like them
/r/MensRights30/04/14 11:14 AM
2

where do you go to school?? thats sounds... like the people in charge are trying to pull off a recreation of Greese
/r/MensRights30/04/14 02:40 AM
1

then would manipulation necessarily be a bad thing?
/r/MensRights30/04/14 02:35 AM
1

the only reason he doesnt want to take it is the needle. is it motivation or manipulation?
/r/MensRights30/04/14 02:27 AM
2

not less valid, just less trusted
/r/MensRights30/04/14 02:24 AM
1

that makes me really want to know what you were gonna say first :(
/r/MensRights30/04/14 02:23 AM
2

repost this from an account with a history and i will take you seriously
/r/MensRights30/04/14 02:19 AM
2

also, dad knows whats going on. that probably has something to do with it. if they both know whats going on, is it manipulation or motivation? where is the line, or is there even a difference?
/r/MensRights30/04/14 02:17 AM
2

her values and ideas are more important and better than his shes making him do what the doctor said. like take his insulin.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 02:12 AM
0

because troll
/r/MensRights30/04/14 01:46 AM
2

i would say it depends on the intentions. like, (and as much as i hate seeing this) my mom uses "feminine wiles" to get my dad to be healthier and exercise and stuff. thats a good thing. on the other hand, there are people who use that stuff to screw up other relationships. thats bad. it would depend heavily on the context of the situation i guess is what im trying to say
/r/MensRights30/04/14 12:58 AM
1

Using feminist terms: formal equality
/r/MensRights28/04/14 06:42 PM
4

but that would be perfect from the lawyers point of view, because then they would need to get called in to mediate the dispute. or maybe even people would start engaing the lawyers for a threesome all the time so they dont get sued
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:35 AM
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What's next? Contracts? i can totally see lawyers pushing for that
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:32 AM
3

im not sure. the part of newfoundland i live in never really got past "fisherman" or "non-fisherman" status. theres a guy whos lived here for almost 40 years who is still known as "that new guy"
/r/MensRights27/04/14 02:12 AM
21

did you actually watch the video? she attacked him repetedly
/r/MensRights25/04/14 03:45 AM
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ever been in a brawl like that? unless you are trained in some form of self defense (and most of the time, even then) your brain shuts down and you just respond to anything that attacks you. what does it matter that she was smaller than him? if someone is attacking you, you have the right to self defense
/r/MensRights25/04/14 03:19 AM
2

in that particular instance i would say split the costs of medical care (if any, im in canada so i have no idea how the us medical system works) and then put the kid up for adoption
/r/MensRights23/04/14 12:16 AM
10

dude... 4chan is like the least reliable its possible to be.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 10:30 AM
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i posted it on FeMRAdebates too
/r/MensRights21/04/14 10:09 PM
8

patriarchy. obviously. /s
/r/MensRights20/04/14 07:20 PM
2

get em when they are young enough, and the possibilities are endless
/r/MensRights20/04/14 03:41 PM
1

And? When someone admits they have a drug problem we put them in rehab, we don't commend them
/r/MensRights20/04/14 06:34 AM
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I think she ought to be commended for making that step serious question: why should i commend someone for realizing they are sexist?
/r/MensRights20/04/14 03:51 AM
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nope. im done. society and humanity can go fuck itself. the point of an all you can eat buffet is that no matter how much you eat, you pay the same. if people are to goddamn stupid to figure that out, then im done trying to help thing. society can rip itself apart, and im just going to sit here and watch it happen. maybe ill have some popcorn while i watch
/r/MensRights10/04/14 07:15 PM
5

eh, its the internets. misunderstandings happen
/r/MensRights09/04/14 06:41 PM
3

yeah. i didnt mean to say you should call people out like while they are sobbing on your shoulder or anything, sorry if it came across that way
/r/MensRights09/04/14 06:24 PM
4

so yours do eventually call you on it. hers apparently didnt
/r/MensRights09/04/14 06:03 PM
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just doing their duty as friends i dont know what kinds of friends you have, but with my friends we actually call each other on it when we say stupid shit rather than blindly agreeing to make them feel better
/r/MensRights09/04/14 05:38 PM
1

yeah see thats not bad (im not a huge fan of punk so im not sure how great it is). i have no problem with women doing things, i have a problem with any person doing something shitty and then when you call them on it they claim some kind of sexism or racism or whatever
/r/MensRights09/04/14 03:27 PM
3

ow. that actually gave me a headache
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:51 PM
5

if you start off playing in bars its pretty much guaranteed that theres gonna be at least one drunk ass hole heckle you every night
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:48 PM
5

A lot of people I know specifically avoid going to Subways where black men work wow.. if something suddenly sounds racist if you add "black" in front of men, maybe you should think about what your saying
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:36 PM
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basically, for the same reason we dont do a tonsillectomy until there is a problem
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:14 AM
3

I'll go further with the "rape apologia" but without the sexism by suggesting that many prisoners are willing participants and are using sex and relationships with guards for personal gain. agreeing to get fucked is so that you dont get beaten or stabbed is not consent. the seems to be pretty clearly "under duress"
/r/MensRights09/04/14 12:16 AM
1

considering they are each worth billions of dollars even one doing it is a rather large problem
/r/MensRights09/04/14 12:13 AM
1

or i could even have gone with the old "teach black men not to rape" instead of "teach men not to rape"
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:47 PM
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I don't want there to be a singular focus on me just some, please. I'm a man too, I would just like some recognition of that. and we will work on the issues that you face because you are a man.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:44 PM
1

it was just the first thing that popped into my mind, probably because it was so blatent
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:43 PM
4

they wont be ignored, thats what we are saying. there are other entire groups we can work together with that cover those things specifically, so we are going to focus on these things
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:32 PM
2

we actually kind of do that around here now. one of the things we like to do is take statements from people and put "black" in front of the man and seeing if it suddenly becomes racist, just to make the point that if that happens, you shouldnt be saying the first thing edit: for an example, the #killallmen that was going around? it dosent sound very good if you make it #killallblackmen
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:30 PM
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we focus on issues that affect all men equally. we dont focus on ones for white men, we dont focus on ones for black men, we dont focus on any one groups specific issues. and we are not going to start doing it, because feminism tried that, and it lost control of itself and is now a splintered mess. if you want to focus on something specific, go to a group for something that says its for that specific problem. we are not the only group, and one of the important things for us is that unlike femini…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:25 PM
0

if you take a large enough group of people, at least one of them will be offended by almost anything you say
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:21 PM
1

I feel like if you can't make a point without offending a group of people than maybe it's not a point worth making if you tell a narcissist he's not the center of everything, he will be offended. some points that need to be made cannot be made without offending people
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:11 PM
3

this sounds really really easy to abuse
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:04 PM
4

Your entire movement is based on focussing solely on straight, white, cis men apparently, so you'll get it here. there are far more black/hispanic/asian/indian/native men in the world than white ones. you display a surprising lack of care about them for someone so focused on inclusivity
/r/MensRights08/04/14 10:57 PM
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ah. then we will have to disagree. i believe that everyone IS the same, and that labelling them creates a sense of "they are different from me" that causes most of the issues
/r/MensRights08/04/14 10:50 PM
12

Seems like you're willfully ignoring the issues of men that aren't strictly cis/straight and that seems hardly inclusive. is it more inclusive to give everyone their own specific label, or is it more inclusive to not care and treat everyone the same?
/r/MensRights08/04/14 10:24 PM
1

thats especially interesting since a large portion of rapes every day happen in prisons
/r/MensRights08/04/14 10:15 PM
2

you could be right. if thats what you think, try joining and bringing those issues up for a while, see how it goes? you could be a huge influence just with a single post a day. you could even try doing that both here and in the other places your thinking about for like a week, see how each group responds and then make your choice with that information kind of related: i personally could probably use something like that, because im not even quite sure what "intersex" means (is it kind of like tra…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 10:15 PM
1

i dont actually watch the show and i havnt read the book yet, i just noticed the hubbub was rising and made a guess
/r/MensRights08/04/14 09:50 PM
5

So you're not focussing on LGBTIQ people? Well I'm not sure I really want to join then, as it is a major focus of mine. Why can you not support men's issues and support LGBTIQ issues, focussing more on gay men if you must? mostly because we are not an LGBTIQ group. we are a mens rights group. if you fall into the category we will support you the same way we support other men, most of us really simply just dont care about what you are in those terms. if you want to join an LGBTIQ group and us tha…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 09:48 PM
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its a Game Of Thrones reference where they are more talking about "everyone" must die. i think the series is ending soon or coming upon the climax from the book or something
/r/MensRights08/04/14 09:29 PM
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interesting. and your right. i did a search for mra grous (not just the ones that hurt women, i looked through them) and didnt find any that focus on women, although most of them did seem equal opportunity.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 09:24 PM
2

sounds interesting. do you have links to the interviews?
/r/MensRights08/04/14 08:53 PM
5

So here are my top six tips to carry you through 2014 in ultimate feminazi style. pretty sure thats satire
/r/MensRights08/04/14 08:49 PM
2

neither of those organizations sites mention feminism that i can find. what makes you think they are run by feminists?
/r/MensRights08/04/14 08:32 PM
1

by that logic men dont need houses, just give them a cot in their office
/r/MensRights08/04/14 08:21 PM
1

your welcome!
/r/MensRights08/04/14 06:54 PM
2

i dont remember which one, but i saw an interview where one of them admitted that. it might have been faked but...
/r/MensRights08/04/14 06:53 PM
14

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfch0011.pdf page 8 has the graph (pie chart really) you are looking for.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 06:50 PM
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i dont even know what to say to that. that is brain breaking.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 06:45 PM
1

i just saw this one and thought it would be relevant in the current thread given that its a rebuttal piece. im really not trying to make any kind of statement
/r/MensRights08/04/14 06:22 PM
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They announced that a stats canada survey reported 1.2 million Canadian women were abused when the report itself stated that it was 1.2 million Canadians and then broke it down by gender: 670k women and 530k men so... Yes, they covered up not just female on male abuse but all male abuse
/r/MensRights08/04/14 05:14 PM
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http://thoughtcatalog.com/isla-sofia/2014/04/18-reasons-why-the-concept-of-female-privilege-is-insane/ this is on r/feminism right now
/r/MensRights08/04/14 03:36 PM
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I mentioned this to a girl in my office that I'm friends with and she was taken aback, as she didn't even realize she/they had that attitude until I pointed it out, but couldn't deny I had a very good point. and people say men are blinded by their privelage
/r/MensRights08/04/14 03:23 PM
13

the violence commonly acted upon women by men is deemed acceptable by society in more ways than one what violence, where, and how is it deemed acceptable?
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:44 PM
1

statutory rape exists because adults decided that children are not capable of responsibly making these kinds of decisions on their own. to then turn around and say "i dont consider this kid a victim" (in any circumstance) makes me wonder why and how this law got passed in the first place, and what has changed in our views about children since then
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:23 PM
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in my experiences the only real difference is that men make sure the women can hear what they say about women, and women make sure men cannot hear what they say about men. if you hang out with women to the point that you become "one of the girls" the same way girls can become "one of the guys" you will hear some incredibly explicit and graphic things come out of their mouths, but only behind someones back. so i guess the real question is which is worse: saying things behind someones back or sayi…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:16 PM
2

true enough. its all the patriarchy instead
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:04 PM
7

Why is that even regrettable? It seems to me like it would make sense for the Mens rights group to talk about male rape the most and for feminism to talk about female rape the most
/r/MensRights08/04/14 02:01 PM
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its an apex fallacy. they are comparing women to the top class of men, when most men were in just as shitty a situation as the women. its not a case of the women not living in bad conditions, its that everyone except the elite were living in shitty conditions
/r/MensRights07/04/14 04:07 PM
3

kind of makes me wonder if he paid them less on purpose so he could point to it and say "see? the wage gap is real!". that might just be my general distrust of politicians though
/r/MensRights07/04/14 03:34 PM
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if you have to worry about a friend taking something you say the wrong way then you need better friends
/r/MensRights07/04/14 03:29 PM
0

Dr. Psych you may well make more money than me. i did have mental trauma as a kid, and i now work at the same place that helped me when i was young. maybe you need to think about seeing someone for whatever problem you have that makes you so angry and hostile?
/r/MensRights07/04/14 03:24 PM
1

ok. you first
/r/MensRights07/04/14 02:50 PM
0

why would i stop? you spewing hatred out into the internet has no effect on me
/r/MensRights07/04/14 02:42 PM
1

what does this have to do with mens rights?
/r/MensRights07/04/14 02:37 PM
0

and more unfounded assumptions about a name on a screen. your on a roll here
/r/MensRights07/04/14 02:36 PM
0

You're like most MRA's: feeling sorry for yourself, a poor planner, bitter/angry, poor social skills, marginal education and job prospects, and an inability to get laid. yup. rage and hate make for great social skills. come back and try again when you show more self control than a newly pubescent child
/r/MensRights07/04/14 02:33 PM
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EVERY state, including where you live. except im not in the US. in the future dont assume you know about others on the internet. you have no interest in having an actually civil conversation, and i dont deal with assholes. goodbye, maybe someday you will realize just how alone your attitude is going to make you
/r/MensRights07/04/14 02:16 PM
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i guess there was basically two main things that brought me here, first was when i tried to get into feminism first off and started reading about it and discussing things with feminists. at that point, i found out that your really not allowed to speak your own opinion or decide anything for yourself, you just "havnt realized" your a feminist or your a misogynist or what the fuck ever you were talking about. that was what drove me away from feminism and made me realize there were problems. the se…
/r/MensRights06/04/14 11:21 PM
3

given the current divorce laws, you ARE doing a women a favour when you marry her. marrying a woman is basically saying "i am now legally obligated to provide for you the rest of your life no matter what happens even if you leave me". that sounds like a pretty big favour to me
/r/MensRights06/04/14 11:06 PM
1

it seems.... a bit excessive in my opinion
/r/MensRights06/04/14 10:50 PM
0

to be honest, your completely right. there is no new law for that for california. i also was fairly stupid when i posted that and wasnt thinking of california, i was thinking of where i live where the common law marriage time is actually only 2 years, and thats back up from the 6 months it was earlier. most people who dont do research arent lazy, they are busy. especially here on reddit, where you can browse things on your phone and pop of a quick answer without actually thinking. the people who…
/r/MensRights06/04/14 10:31 PM
1

im missing too much information to understand that. whats the lords covenant?
/r/MensRights06/04/14 03:27 AM
1

Maybe every baby should have their appendix removed? That would make a lot of sense, because they have a habit of unexpectedly exploding - people have died as a result, and the risks are minimal because medicine has come so far. i actually kind of enjoy knowing that i have an organ inside whos only current real purpose is to maybe kill me at some point. it gives life a bit of zest
/r/MensRights06/04/14 03:25 AM
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except some people really believe this and say it without joking
/r/MensRights06/04/14 03:24 AM
0

considering the safe haven laws and adoption options already available to them? yes.
/r/MensRights06/04/14 03:13 AM
3

i think withholding sex is either viewed as some form of abuse or people are trying to make it abuse
/r/MensRights06/04/14 02:54 AM
0

thanks for the info. just a note, if your trying to educate people, ridiculing them does not help
/r/MensRights06/04/14 02:50 AM
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And canada
/r/MensRights06/04/14 01:53 AM
2

I don't know where you live, but where I am maternity leave is a minimum of 9 months, and more commonly a year
/r/MensRights06/04/14 01:47 AM
2

[L.A. 30520 Cal Sup Ct Dec. 27, 1976] laws have changed since dec 27, 1976
/r/MensRights05/04/14 09:10 PM
1

so basically "most guys have daydreamed about being in star wars"
/r/MensRights05/04/14 09:01 AM
2

thats awesome
/r/MensRights04/04/14 05:03 AM
0

it seems kind of similar to the yin/yang kind of theory
/r/MensRights04/04/14 05:01 AM
2

if we tried to mention all the men who did something like this there would be at least one per province/state per day
/r/MensRights04/04/14 02:48 AM
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its recognized as a hate group by feminists because we actually call them on their bullshit
/r/MensRights03/04/14 10:04 PM
9

what, in your opinion, would be something to do with mens rights?
/r/MensRights02/04/14 06:13 PM
9

Only if your using phallo-centric logic shitlord /s
/r/MensRights02/04/14 12:01 AM
1

I know the KKK has previously been allowed to sponsor sections of public highways with signage, in return for cleaning litter yeah, but at least once when they tried that the government realized they couldnt stop them so they renamed the road Martin Luther King road XD
/r/MensRights01/04/14 10:59 PM
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sometimes people need to have limbs cut off because they are infected with something and if you dont it will kill them. in that case removing a limb is a completely valid medical treatment. that does not mean if there is nothing wrong with the limb that removing it should not be refered to as mutilation because its sometimes necessary
/r/MensRights01/04/14 09:17 PM
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so if the removal of labia for a female child was done by a licensed medical professional inside a hospital that would be acceptable?
/r/MensRights01/04/14 09:14 PM
6

this barely scratches the surface of horrible people and the things they do
/r/MensRights01/04/14 09:12 PM
7

gee, what a surprise. someone from AMR having this opinion
/r/MensRights01/04/14 09:10 PM
5

actually, the mother gets the check and is expected to spend it on the child, but that is in no way enforcable. its actually illegal to send the money to the child, people have tried in the past and the courts have said they are not allowed
/r/MensRights01/04/14 09:08 PM
1

they wear burkas, jihad is a term that means holy war, similar to the christian crusade
/r/MensRights01/04/14 06:51 AM
1

while they are giving a presentation at work? almost no one
/r/MensRights01/04/14 06:49 AM
3

id prefer to be a wolf. well, provided i cant choose a mythical creature like a dragon.
/r/MensRights29/03/14 04:27 PM
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If her father was a man, I bet he wouldn't have gotten a suspended sentence for putting his kid in traction. wha?
/r/MensRights29/03/14 12:37 AM
3

ive always thought circumcision should be viewed like getting your tonsils removed. if theres an issue with it, get it removed, and thats perfect. but theres no reason to do it unless theres an issue.
/r/MensRights27/03/14 11:22 PM
1

ok, somethings going on with this, and i dont have enough information to come to any conclusions. that might be different for people in the states (im in canada) but from here i have seen people say obamacare will solve everything, ruing everything, its only for women, its only for men, it excludes LGBT, its great for LGBT, and pretty much everything else possible to say about it. does anyone have a link to an at least mostly unbiased information source for this?
/r/MensRights27/03/14 10:26 PM
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something that ive been noticing lately is that it seems (at least to me) like people who make arguments like that start with the assumption that guys treat other guys the same way women treat other women. like this implies that you show love and respect to your equals, but at least in my personal experience, guys simply dont do that, its not how we interact with each other. while we might feel that way towards our friends, even with them we dont show it openly, or at least not in the same ways …
/r/MensRights27/03/14 09:24 PM
5

"However the most disquieting aspect of the police action is that the unnamed councillor faces criminal charges for doing no more than “liking” a Facebook post of the former mayor of Margate, pointing out that an objector’s artist’s impression of the proposed Tesco development is in the wrong place and of the wrong size. The development’s opponent claims this was “offensive” to her and complained she was the subject of criminal harassment by the three prominent local councillors." i stopped read…
/r/MensRights27/03/14 08:58 PM
3

uh huh. post history of just this, account made today, no real argument, no real information, i do believe you are a troll
/r/MensRights26/03/14 09:56 PM
3

totally agree. if this had happened when i was back in middle school the only impact it would have had on me would have been to further convince me the teachers were insane and the school system totally fucked up
/r/MensRights26/03/14 09:30 PM
5

huh. i guess im apparently not an mra them
/r/MensRights26/03/14 07:02 PM
2

ok, so companies have jumped on a bandwagon and nedlessly labeled things. its hardly the first time, when i was young and the whole "anti caffeine" kick took off root beer companies labeled their drinks "new and improved caffeine free", even though the root beers never had caffeine to start with. its just marketing departments adding meaningless labels in an attempt to make themselves look good
/r/MensRights26/03/14 06:58 PM
0

why? if thats the way i feel about a place even if i go there i wont be usefull. edit: you should work on convincing people who dont think twitter is useless to join rather than argue with me
/r/MensRights26/03/14 04:14 AM
1

http://www.businessinsider.com/sex-violence-against-women-ads-2013-5 heres one example. theres a bunch of others like it. and protesting against this kind of thing is justified for both sides.
/r/MensRights26/03/14 04:03 AM
1

so your against me choosing which place im best suited to help in? edit: i do like your way. maybe i will join twitter
/r/MensRights26/03/14 03:56 AM
1

tell you what, il prove my point 4 when you prove yours
/r/MensRights26/03/14 02:36 AM
2

oh i wish i had more than one upvote for you
/r/MensRights26/03/14 02:30 AM
9

its interesting that they are all men killing men
/r/MensRights26/03/14 02:06 AM
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1) its an over broad assumption, and it plays with the definition of brainwashing, but it gets across my point of "repeatedly telling someone x is bad will make them think x is bad" 2) i have time if your willing to talk. ive looked at your post history and i am now confused as to what you are and what your beliefs are, you almost seem to be a pro-feminist mra which is... rare (i know, thats assigning values to you, but i feel more comfortable dealing with people when i have at least a vauge ide…
/r/MensRights26/03/14 12:16 AM
2

downvote for repost, especially since the old one is still on the first page of new posts
/r/MensRights26/03/14 12:02 AM
1

true enough, i apologize for assigning motives to you. in that case, what are your reasons for being here? also, i dont asume anyone who criticizes mens rights is either for or against it or a feminist. i assumed YOU were against it, which again i apologize for
/r/MensRights25/03/14 11:57 PM
1

not gonna downvote but why do you keep coming here if your so against it?
/r/MensRights25/03/14 11:44 PM
4

1) its not fake, its an actual commercial 2) its not a joke, its an advertisement 3) its not fake, its an actual commercial 4) if the roles were reversed most of feminism would be screaming about sexism and rape culture and patriarchy 5) yes it would, see number 4 6) this one, and only this one, is true edit: spacing
/r/MensRights25/03/14 11:28 PM
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i was more asking how its legal to turn it into law in the first place. it completely and blatently goes against the presumption of innocence most modern court systems supposedly have
/r/MensRights25/03/14 11:23 PM
2

peoples issues with the mens rights movement is that they have been brainwashed into believing whatever feminist academics tell them
/r/MensRights25/03/14 11:02 PM
1

wow. she just managed to make me permanently associate her with pig testicles. from now on whenever i see her my first thought will be "hey shes that politician who cut pigs balls off!"
/r/MensRights25/03/14 10:12 PM
3

i avoid twitter because i would rather not engage in the dumming down of society rather than laziness. i prefer to spend my effort in forums like this where you can have actual conversations.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 10:06 PM
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i tried. my first impulse is actually more along the lines of "thrown them in the pit of dammnation!" but i didnt really think that would work for a society. also, im not sure where it is
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:57 PM
5

best part is that ones from someone with the name "the voice of reason"
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:44 PM
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for anyone sexually abusing children, either a minimum of 5 years prison or institutionalization in a psychiatric care facility. in both of those cases, official, lifelong registration on the sex offenders list. i think i would actually prefer the psychiatric facility in almost all cases. normal, healthy humans dont molest children, and while jail works as a punishment it does not (obviously given the recidivism rates) work to rehabilitate people.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:40 PM
4

i must admit, i did pretty much the same thing
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:30 PM
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http://protect.org/ first one i found for the us, dont know how good it is or anything, i live in canada
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:22 PM
0

Of course, because if you compare a subsection of group a to the entirety of group b that's a totally valid comparison
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:12 PM
11

God I hate twitter. Spewing half formed sentence fragments into the internet should not be considered valid communication!!
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:11 PM
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i guess we will have to disagree. i really dont think that the mental abuse and lifetime trauma she gave this child, who was under her power as a teacher, is equivalent to two years of inconvinience.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:01 PM
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you are ok with people molesting young children and getting 2 years probation?
/r/MensRights25/03/14 08:49 PM
18

how the fuck is this shit legal? how is it legal to take 1/3 of someones value on the mere word of someone else?
/r/MensRights25/03/14 08:28 PM
3

... i find myself almost excited to get there
/r/MensRights25/03/14 05:08 PM
5

whats the common womens number? 1/4? and this is almost 1/2?
/r/MensRights25/03/14 05:05 PM
2

..ONLY FOR MEN. Women receive no comparative benefit i actually did not know that. thank you
/r/MensRights25/03/14 05:00 PM
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because they are both bad things, and both need attention to stop them. the same reason we keep bringing up MGM when they talk about FGM
/r/MensRights25/03/14 04:58 PM
5

you know, i caught myself thinking the same thing. then i realized that the only word in this is "man" and i wondered why i tied those images to such a simple word
/r/MensRights25/03/14 04:56 PM
3

be glad you dont understand. its a stupid meme
/r/MensRights25/03/14 04:55 PM
5

did you used to be popular in school?
/r/MensRights25/03/14 04:48 PM
12

so statutory rape and conspiracy to commit murder get you therapy?
/r/MensRights25/03/14 04:36 PM
3

i wonder what happened to all the big strong confident empowered women who walked by? surely any self respecting feminist would have stopped to help some kids right?
/r/MensRights25/03/14 01:07 PM
3

huh?
/r/MensRights24/03/14 12:03 PM
4

oh wow. you have over 1000 negative karma. hello mr professional troll
/r/MensRights24/03/14 09:49 AM
1

you know? im actually going to go watch that now. thank you
/r/MensRights24/03/14 12:51 AM
1

my definition of hillarious is set by the black knight scene in monty pythons holy grail
/r/MensRights24/03/14 12:50 AM
1

which one?
/r/MensRights24/03/14 12:45 AM
1

so you laughed at his comments then?
/r/MensRights24/03/14 12:26 AM
1

then why would you thank someone else for me making you laugh?
/r/MensRights24/03/14 12:22 AM
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"the story" does not exist. the only place it exists is tumblr, where it was first made up
/r/MensRights24/03/14 12:21 AM
1

oh? why exactly did you need a laugh?
/r/MensRights24/03/14 12:21 AM
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because the picture is real. the story surrounding it was made up. the rape? that was entirely fiction. what actually happened was this was a girl in australia who was attacked by a kangaroo
/r/MensRights24/03/14 12:03 AM
3

reverse pedophile = fail. goodbye troll
/r/MensRights23/03/14 11:48 PM
2

given the backstory, she was loaded drunk, and he was stone cold sober. she was underage, he was above it. thats straight up predatory behaviour. while it may not have actually been rape, it was clearly pushing the lines, and given the feminist nature of that sub, their reaction is not unexpected
/r/MensRights23/03/14 11:31 PM
3

i actually went and read the backstory provided in the original post for this. IF the backstory is true, then it was pretty damn creepy
/r/MensRights23/03/14 11:16 PM
1

eh, not really. nature can wait to kill you. it has time
/r/MensRights23/03/14 11:11 PM
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I’m tired of trying to hawk gender equality like I’m some kind of car salesman showing off a shiny new sedan, explaining all of its bells and whistles well, when your being about as honest as one...
/r/MensRights23/03/14 11:02 PM
1

... right. you go work on that then
/r/MensRights23/03/14 10:52 PM
1

ok, what would you focus on then
/r/MensRights23/03/14 10:37 PM
1

no, but it means we have to to deconstruct the concept
/r/MensRights23/03/14 10:31 PM
1

ok then
/r/MensRights23/03/14 10:28 PM
1

the idea of patriarchy theory is heavily rooted in the past, especially in the laws and ideas of the linked time period. patriarchy theory is one of the biggest current problems.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 10:27 PM
2

that is exceedingly well said.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 10:07 PM
1

I am saying that we can't change history and we should focus on what we can change things that are issues now were caused by things in the past. its something called cause and effect, and it means we cant focus on the issues now unless we understand what caused them
/r/MensRights23/03/14 09:49 PM
1

im pretty sure they are a regular troll. this is the first post they made
/r/MensRights23/03/14 09:36 PM
1

things that are issues now were caused by things in the past. its something called cause and effect, and it means we cant focus on the issues now unless we understand what caused them. all you are doing is trying to bury the past and make us look like idiots who dont know what they are talking about
/r/MensRights23/03/14 09:35 PM
5

so your not going to refute that we need to know these things to be able to logically discuss things like patriarchy theory with people? and just because we do not understand how human laws evolve does not mean there are no laws behind it. remember, we used to think that the earth was the center of our universe. understanding of things change, and we need to be able to compare now to the past to make sense of anything
/r/MensRights23/03/14 09:24 PM
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the basis of arguments like patriarchy theory are based on the laws of the past. in order to discuss them logically, we need to be aware of the laws of the past. and while those particular laws are no longer in effect, that is because they have evolved over time into the system we recognize today, much the same way that the universe has evolved from the microwave background system we see when we look far enough into the current configuration of planets and stars and galaxies.
/r/MensRights23/03/14 08:26 PM
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about as valid as saying its old so we shouldnt care maybe?
/r/MensRights23/03/14 08:15 PM
4

didnt you know, feminism is working on mens problems too!! /s
/r/MensRights23/03/14 08:13 PM
7

the creation of our universe took place almost 14 billion years ago. does that mean we shouldnt care about it because its old?
/r/MensRights23/03/14 08:10 PM
5

to me, that article looked like someone who had been brainwashed to believe x, and was slowly grasping their way to realizing that maybe, just maybe, x is not quite correct
/r/MensRights23/03/14 08:08 PM
16

absolutly none of what they said is unique to women in gangs. thats just how gangs treat their members
/r/MensRights23/03/14 08:04 PM
1

because the draft was the price men paid for getting the vote, and when it came time for the women to get the vote we gave it to them for free
/r/MensRights23/03/14 07:43 PM
1

Yes, it was largely meant to be a joke. however, most jokes, including this one, have a small measure of truth within them. the police did completely overreact and went way to far with the situation. as for finding a 95 year old man, im not sure about that, but heres some background: I have a blackbelt, and was in karate for around 6 years at this point in the story. we had a visitor come to our school from the head school on the mainland. his name was Claude Pepain. He was at the time 80-85 yea…
/r/MensRights23/03/14 07:41 PM
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in some ways, the police were totally out of line. on the other hand, theres a reason veterans survived, and i wouldnt want to get close to one no matter how old they were either
/r/MensRights23/03/14 02:53 AM
7

Asshole = man who does not act as society says he should Asshole = man who does not act as expected for gender stereotype of men
/r/MensRights22/03/14 10:26 PM
1

Are you that penisprotectorate guy from earlier today? Your not doing much better
/r/MensRights22/03/14 10:14 PM
1

ah. i did enjoy this. better luck next time
/r/MensRights22/03/14 04:09 PM
1

so your saying your not a troll?
/r/MensRights22/03/14 04:04 PM
1

and you have a troll sounding username
/r/MensRights22/03/14 03:54 PM
1

uh huh. or, you know, im playing with a troll
/r/MensRights22/03/14 03:50 PM
1

your still failing to come across as anything but a troll
/r/MensRights22/03/14 03:45 PM
1

I am not a troll well, your not a good one
/r/MensRights22/03/14 03:42 PM
2

go away troll
/r/MensRights22/03/14 03:32 PM
4

removing part of someones body without their consent is mutilation. what part is being removed and what age they are is immaterial, weather a 40 year old person has their hand cut off, an 8 year old girl has her clittoris cut off, or a one month old boy has his foreskin cut off. if you have come to accept this then thats fine, but thats no reason to deny others the right to choose what happens to their body, or try to call it anything except what it is
/r/MensRights22/03/14 08:35 AM
1

just wondering, i dont remember it off the top of my head, what is the actual discrepency in the stem fields?
/r/MensRights22/03/14 08:11 AM
7

because its ok to hate men but not ok to feel for us. its another example of how ingrained male disposability is in peoples minds
/r/MensRights22/03/14 08:03 AM
3

"we are raising him gay" wow. just wow. to have a group that claims to be about everyone making their own choices say something like that...
/r/MensRights22/03/14 02:01 AM
24

thats not underage sex. that is strait up hardcore internet predation on children. this is the exact same thing as a 30 year old guy pretending to be 15 so he can lure young girls. the fact that this is being called "underage sex" is a slap in the face not just to men, but to everyone in the western world who has heard about online predators. do they really think we are so stupid that we cannot see that this case is exactly what they have been telling kids to watch out for for years?
/r/MensRights22/03/14 01:57 AM
6

“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” — Sally Miller Gearhart
/r/MensRights22/03/14 01:33 AM
13

yes. there are. there are males who degrade their own gender, females who degrade their own gender, white people who degrade white people, black people who degrade black people. no group has full claim to degrading any other group. people hate people, and i dont think that will ever change
/r/MensRights22/03/14 01:15 AM
3

the problem with that is while a human becomes reproductively capable near the start of puberty, the final maturation of their brain does not happen until puberty is ending.
/r/MensRights22/03/14 01:12 AM
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not all feminists are female, and not all females are feminists. you should watch some of the videos karen straughn (AKA girl writes what) has posted on youtube on this subject
/r/MensRights22/03/14 01:11 AM
7

Why oh why would anyone expect anything but abuse and crazy from /b????
/r/MensRights20/03/14 10:00 PM
1

... in that case i kind of have to give whoever it was props. they almost made my brain explode from the crazy. thanks for pointing that out
/r/MensRights17/03/14 10:48 PM
2

heres an alternative reading of the situation: It WAS a problem with the "boys club". not the MANS club, the BOYS club. the wife of the founder viewed everyone who worked for the company as her children, and tried to enforce the same control over them a mother does over her sons, and the men were ok with this. as soon as another women entered the arena, she felt she was being unfairly discriminated against (and she was, just not because she was a woman) and rather than trying to bond with the pe…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 06:07 PM
5

GAH! the main point of the article isnt even that thats the reason! the main reason according to the actual article is shit we put into our food! WHY DID THEY MAKE THIS THE TITLE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
/r/MensRights17/03/14 06:00 PM
1

its not so much that the people are extremist, its that feminism itself, as a philosophy or ideology, is an extremist one.
/r/MensRights17/03/14 05:31 PM
2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDYAVROaIcs this is pretty much my views on it
/r/MensRights17/03/14 04:37 AM
1

so not having something labeled as a developmental problem is a privilege?
/r/MensRights16/03/14 07:59 PM
1

oh wow, you beat me to it. and its what i would have said. well done!
/r/MensRights16/03/14 07:58 PM
5

Can anyone tell me what "neurotypical privilege" even is?
/r/MensRights16/03/14 07:12 PM
3

so because something is unequal for adults we should be unequal to children to prepare them?
/r/MensRights16/03/14 06:19 PM
6

if one group coopts the power of the government, is that not the same as them having power over everyone the government has power over?
/r/MensRights16/03/14 06:15 PM
1

feminism is only interest in equality when it comes to rights and privelages. they have no interest in the responsibility or work that men have to do to get those
/r/MensRights16/03/14 05:14 PM
5

i find it interesting to note how small and, really, uncaring this article seems to be. there is no real compassion, no search for answers, and there does not even seem to be a sense that this needs to be covered more. the utter lack of any context other than the fact that the building was blocked and it was a suicide, combined with this line: As the officer approached the vehicle, the driver drew a firearm and fired a single shot seems to be framing this man as not only not worth pity, but a bu…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 07:17 AM
7

"never met a man hating feminist" how about the ones that wrote the SCUM manifesto? how about the one that said "i feel man hating is a noble endeavour"?
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:45 PM
1

nannites could make us all immortal and could let us do things like throw fireballs. what point are you trying to make?
/r/MensRights14/03/14 08:25 PM
3

just making sure you were actually in favour of inequality in this area
/r/MensRights12/03/14 10:05 PM
3

so one gender gets one chance and the other gets two?
/r/MensRights12/03/14 09:58 PM
10

most men DO understand what rape is. most of the rapes that occur are not by people who dont understand what they are doing is wrong, rapes are done by people who dont CARE that its wrong. telling them that rape is wrong does absolutly nothing to stop them, and preventing people from telling potential victims how to protect themselves just makes it easier for them to be targeted. every time this comes up im reminded of something that my martial arts instructor taught everyone in his school as th…
/r/MensRights12/03/14 09:28 PM
2

so am i right in understanding that you are supporting one gender having a choice in becoming a parent and not the other gender having a choice in becoming a parent?
/r/MensRights12/03/14 09:21 PM
1

you have completely missed the point
/r/MensRights12/03/14 09:06 PM
2

If you're worried about her getting pregnant and being stuck with child support for the next 18 years (more if they go to college), then don't put your dick in her. Otherwise, man the fuck up and face the consequences of your actions. by that logic abortions should be illegal, because everyone should just deal with the consequences of their actions
/r/MensRights12/03/14 08:54 PM
1

since when is sociopathy an excuse for commiting a crime?
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:58 PM
1

i sold my soul years ago
/r/MensRights10/03/14 11:06 PM
1

stop buying cookies, after all, buying girl scout cookies encourages the notion that women are subservient and only made to bake cookies im sorry, and my resons for this have nothing to do with gender roles or equality or anything. i will never stop buying those cookies because they are goddamn delicious
/r/MensRights10/03/14 06:52 PM
1

Except in cases where the condom breaks or other forms of birth control don't work. Nothing is 100% sure except abstinence
/r/MensRights10/03/14 06:19 PM
1

The first successful transplant of a flash-cloned trachea has already happened, so this might be closer than you would think
/r/MensRights10/03/14 06:17 PM
1

Once someone has tenure they are almost impossible to get rid of
/r/MensRights08/03/14 07:59 PM
3

Doesn't that sound fun? actually, given the general personality of the theoretical physicists i know (an admittedly small sample of 4) this sounds like it would be absolutly priceless to watch. trying to explain this stuff to someone who can handle complex quantum equations and scalar manifold theory yet cant quite grasp that if its raining and he goes inside he wont get wet....
/r/MensRights08/03/14 05:59 PM
3

so with no enforcement what reason does anyone have to pay? you can still have enforcement, its just that locking them up is a stupid form of it. it would make way more sense in this case to just turn their network off, like is done when people dont pay their phone bills on time.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 05:56 PM
6

alcohol would fall under the "drugs", but yeah thats the kind of thing im talking about
/r/MensRights07/03/14 04:41 PM
18

threats, blackmail, violence, drugs. pretty much the same way women get raped
/r/MensRights07/03/14 04:37 PM
6

i have no idea, but if toronto mayor rob ford can beat out other politicians while having a line like "if i smoked crack it was during one of my drunken stupors" (or something to that effect, i dont remember the exact words) then there have got to be some truly fucked up people running in politics all over the world
/r/MensRights07/03/14 11:21 AM
6

Male bullies tend to be more physically aggressive, and female bullies will hatch an elaborate and cruel plot to paint your name in mud, without even laying a finger on you exactly! both sides have the same potential for being assholes, just slightly different kinds of assholes
/r/MensRights07/03/14 10:01 AM
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stab you in the back in order to get to the top this is exactly what sociopaths do. far more men than women are sociopaths. if you really have not noticed men doing this then you are blind
/r/MensRights07/03/14 09:59 AM
1

eh, its a celebrity. celebrities are weird, and people ask for all kinds of crazy ass information on them (tabloids anyone?) IMO, when you start trying to become a star you waive all your rights to privacy
/r/MensRights07/03/14 09:57 AM
9

really? ive actually never talked to one of you before. what about us is it that you dont like, and what makes this different and elevates us (in your eyes)?
/r/MensRights07/03/14 09:51 AM
1

What privacy? Everything you buy is tracked, your recorded almost everywhere in public, and internet usage is monitored.
/r/MensRights06/03/14 01:05 PM
9

You forgot "Fedora wearing neck bearded cis-scum"
/r/MensRights06/03/14 01:03 PM
2

men dont have hearts. their blood is pumped by the patriarchy
/r/MensRights05/03/14 01:06 PM
8

speaking as someone who has experienced trauma, part of getting over it is learning how to handle things that trigger you and getting used to them so that they dont trigger you anymore. this seems like it would just lead to people never getting over their problems
/r/MensRights05/03/14 12:53 PM
3

i have no idea what your point is
/r/MensRights04/03/14 02:14 AM
4

everybody. out of fear. a better question would be "who stops the watchmen when they get out of line?"
/r/MensRights03/03/14 10:14 PM
3

We make people with power very uncomfortable, We make carefully crafted belief systems un-tenable, and we make political/academic structures unstable that sounds kind of rebel-ey and awesome to me
/r/MensRights03/03/14 01:57 AM
1

I'm betting on it being the child/adult one
/r/MensRights02/03/14 09:46 PM
4

unless its arsenic. then you get to have a pair of geese for dinner
/r/MensRights02/03/14 06:11 AM
2

I'm confused. Could you explain what you mean please!
/r/MensRights01/03/14 09:54 PM
3

sounds like we are gonna need a lot of mechanics...
/r/MensRights01/03/14 09:01 PM
5

i think he got carpal tunnel
/r/MensRights28/02/14 08:57 PM
1

what if, like me, your just fat and out of shape?
/r/MensRights28/02/14 08:56 PM
1

is there a difference? guns are traditionally considered a "guy thing"
/r/MensRights27/02/14 07:54 PM
2

this exact same site is FIVE POSTS AWAY. you fail
/r/MensRights27/02/14 04:12 PM
1

you, sir, have apparently been smoking some AMAZING drugs
/r/MensRights27/02/14 03:41 PM
1

nice. i did try to apologize and back down in my edit just now, as well as explain im just frustrated.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 09:32 PM
0

you right. i shouldnt have assumed anything. see, the real problem here is i thought he wanted to discuss things in the framework of "mens rights", the sub where people are supposed to talk about how things relate to mens rights. but i guess your right, assuming that is foolish. so from now on im just going to accept everything i hear from anywhere at face value edit: ok, sorry. im coming across as kind of a dick. im just frustrated at how many people are willing to gloss over the mens rights si…
/r/MensRights26/02/14 09:16 PM
4

Because it was a DV call the cops assumed it was the man, and then an innocent man died because they assumed the male gender was always responsible or DV. This makes it a men's rights case too just because a different incident involving cops was not a mens rights issue does not mean this one is not a mens rights issue. the mens rights issue is not really that the guy got fucked up, its that in instances of a DV call men are automatically assumed to be the problem.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 09:04 PM
1

thank you for showing me this. this is exactly the way i think.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 08:55 PM
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if he had added more context to his statement i wouldnt have had to assume anything. perhaps we should learn to say what we mean rather than assuming people will understand then, hmmm?
/r/MensRights26/02/14 08:53 PM
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Except that in this case they were called because the mother slapped their daughter. Because it was a DV call the cops assumed it was the man, and then an innocent man died because they assumed the male gender was always responsible or DV. This makes it a men's rights case too. Oh, and bad cop no donut has a thread for this already
/r/MensRights26/02/14 08:44 PM
21

to defend our oh-so-noble public defenders from any possible fallout of their mistakes
/r/MensRights26/02/14 08:19 PM
2

you realize your in the mens rights subreddit right? the one where we discuss the mens rights side of issues? if you show up here and add nothing to the conversation but "its not just a mens rights issue" people are going to assume you dont care about the mens rights aspect. Context, learn it.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 08:07 PM
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the mother hit her daughter, the cops assaulted and killed the father instead, and you say its not a mens rights issue?
/r/MensRights26/02/14 07:56 PM
1

I was more making a comment on how the institutionalized, nation wide school system is one of the easiest and best places to spread any idea you want, especially since your audience is children. I didn't mean to say that school was the only place this came from or that school is the only place you can learn things
/r/MensRights26/02/14 01:35 AM
2

It could be but I'm uncomfortable ascribing that level of competence to the government
/r/MensRights26/02/14 12:20 AM
3

How do you think it became common?
/r/MensRights25/02/14 11:50 PM
2

We (or at least my group of friends, il get to me personally in a bit) dont really talk that much to other guys about problems we have, or if we do its in general terms. we might also ask for actual help with something but we wont really go looking for... i guess support would be the correct word. this is partially because we feel uncomfortable sharing these things, partially because we dont want to bother or trouble the other person, and partially "just because we dont". now, personally, i dont…
/r/MensRights25/02/14 10:03 AM
2

ive been yelled at and called sexist for doing 6 of those
/r/MensRights25/02/14 09:46 AM
1

you know in a way you could view this as encouraging "rape culture". society still pretty much demands that people be married before having children, and if we're not allowed to ask for marriage then the only socially acceptable action remaining is to TAKE the hand in marriage rather than ask for it. i love following logic all the way to its conclusion
/r/MensRights25/02/14 09:07 AM
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I don't know if they took it but there was a bunch of stink about it being sexist last time (or something like that)
/r/MensRights25/02/14 04:51 AM
2

Which statistics?
/r/MensRights25/02/14 04:45 AM
3

so... guilty until proven innocent is a more equitable legal process?
/r/MensRights25/02/14 03:56 AM
3

im going to give you advice that got me some great grades in university even though im not sure its a good idea long term: lie. find out what your prof wants to hear, repackage it with some new adjectives, and hand it in. this works for more than just feminism stuff too. almost any arts course you take you will be able to get high grades with this method. the reason im not sure its a good idea is because i remember almost none of the content of any of the classes i did this with, so use this at …
/r/MensRights25/02/14 12:10 AM
2

I think what he's saying is that she was looking for an excuse and just happened to pick feminism, so instead of feminism being the cause it's more like the result
/r/MensRights23/02/14 11:58 PM
2

true enough, and i can see how you took that and how easily it could be misconstrued, especially given where we are. what i was really saying was "people who believe in their politicians are smart enough to write?" which while mean, is not bigoted. i apologize
/r/MensRights23/02/14 01:35 AM
1

the reactions they are measuring are involuntary ones, vascular contractions, increased heartbeat and temperature, that sort of thing. it does work, mostly. and you would be surprised what people are willing to do for a little bit of cash
/r/MensRights22/02/14 06:23 PM
0

That makes you fucking awesome
/r/MensRights22/02/14 06:02 PM
1

because humans see themselves in the best possible light. its a sort of mental defense mechanism, and most people never gain the self awareness to look beyond that and actually see reality without their own perceptions distorting it. as a consequence of such, if something is wrong in their life, it CANT be their fault because if it IS their own fault their entire worldview will crumble
/r/MensRights22/02/14 05:11 PM
1

pretty much, yeah. they sit you in a chair in a hospital gown, hook sensors up all over your body, and show pictures of various things on a screen in front of you and measure the results. (its the same thing they do to psychopaths to try and figure out why violence arouses them)
/r/MensRights22/02/14 04:59 PM
2

i would be interested to know the proportion of the growth of class sizes to the proportion of increased females. does anyone have any information on that?
/r/MensRights22/02/14 04:56 PM
3

if the officer was male they would not have thought it acceptable to slap someone no matter their gender
/r/MensRights22/02/14 04:53 PM
1

sarah palin supporters can write?
/r/MensRights22/02/14 04:32 PM
2

12: a real man, as opposed to the fantasy one created here, is actually human, and therefore each one is different, thereby invalidating the rest of the list
/r/MensRights22/02/14 04:19 PM
7

This is exactly what I have been going through. The more things that become "unacceptable" and the more conflicting those things become the less I care about listening to it. It reminds me of the anti-smoking laws near where I live. They first got rid of it inside, and that was fine. Then they put little lines around entrances and said "smoke out past this" and while people humbles they listened. Then they said "no more smoking on the property" and now smokers stand right outside the door becaus…
/r/MensRights22/02/14 04:15 PM
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thats because male spaces are "sexist" while female spaces are "empowering"
/r/MensRights06/01/14 07:37 PM
1

ok, i read the article and your right in this case, she was not yet dead. but that means she was not yet murdered. until the person actually dies its just attempted murder. its pure semantics and doesnt really matter though
/r/MensRights03/12/13 12:47 AM
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i think the point they were trying to make is that technically if it was after she was murdered it was necrophilia, not rape. its just as creepy and bad and everything, but its a misuse of the term rape
/r/MensRights02/12/13 03:35 AM
2

This is just my opinion, and im rather cynical. Both the political arena and the upper levels of the buisness world are dominated by sociopaths. Women are less likely to be sociopaths than men are. Ergo, most of those positions will be filled by men. im not sure if this is good or bad TBh, because while it might not be equal for women, it also means that they are generally nicer people
/r/MensRights02/12/13 03:28 AM
-1

i dont think you really understand or have been involved in the serious weightlifters world
/r/MensRights01/12/13 05:34 AM
1

lack of time/lack of people vs number of pages to look at for the most part. i know a number of people who edit wikipedia and they almost constantly complain about how almost every page has things in it that have no real basis. they also complain a lot about how certain pages are almost constantly getting screwed with so that would be another reason: the editors change things and then douchbags come along and change them back. i realize this is hardly definitive but it could account for a bunch …
/r/MensRights01/12/13 05:33 AM
21

Evolution isn't like in Pokemon, but takes many generations. this is totally off topic, but im drunk and dont care: wouldnt it be awesome if it WAS like pokemon? one day everybody hears "the human race has leveled up! the human race is evolving!" a bright light envelopes everyone and when it clears you hear "the human race has learned telekinesis!"
/r/MensRights29/11/13 09:55 AM
4

I do see why you would think that, but I also think it's unfair to ask a woman to use their extremely limited reproductive capacity (a huge asset for a man who wants children) this seems to me like you are implying that women have no interest in having children. is my interpretation correct in this? to make babies with a boyfriend, rather than a permanent partner who is also committing their finite resources with the current laws, if you are the father of a child (or even just if you are claimed…
/r/MensRights29/11/13 09:44 AM
3

Bets on when it gets shut down for sexism?
/r/MensRights29/11/13 09:20 AM
11

when did burden of proof get put on the accused?
/r/MensRights29/11/13 03:11 AM
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i have no doubt its accurate, as long as you look at it under a very large, very specific, and very strange set of qualifiers. you can make all sorts of ridiculous claims valid by using ridiculous qualifiers
/r/MensRights29/11/13 03:07 AM
1

as far as that goes, i totally agree, and i find it priceless that you think of them as "the crazy" too, something i thought only i did. the thing is not to argue with the crazy themselves, but with the next generation before the crazy manage to indoctrinate them
/r/MensRights28/11/13 06:56 AM
2

any male version of it that has ever existed has been shut down by feminist organizations because they were sexist
/r/MensRights27/11/13 02:46 AM
3

shrug its better than any of the other feminism subs. and i find you get more people who are actually neutral there. of course, most of them have been banned from r/feminism during what seems to be regular purges of anyone not feminist enough
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:43 AM
6

there's r/FeMRAdebates for MRA and Feminist discussions, but i don't know of any others or anything similar for other polarized issues (abortion etc). that doesnt mean there are none though, and if you go looking for forums on the internet you should find some (i remember finding a political issues forum a few years ago that had all kinds of stuff like that but i stopped going to it and i don't remember its name...)
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:22 AM
7

happy cakeday!
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:06 AM
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"thats not having a voice, thats benevolent sexism!" /s
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:12 AM
1

ok yeah, that context changes things. now it sounds more like she is trying to discuss in good faith but has something else keeping her from being able to do so about this topic. thats something i have a lot of experience with as i have, well, lets leave it at "lots of mental issues". in that instance, for me and most of the people like me i know, bringing the discussion to a hypothetical level tends to help as its less likely to engage whatever it is that is being triggered by the discussion. t…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:10 AM
1

thats why i find it works for shutting down arguments. its something you can say with complete honesty that does not come across as an attack and has no easy way to continue what she probably percieves as a "contest" of sorts to be either won or lost edit: ok, i may be projecting too much of my mother onto her. nevermind the last bit
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:57 AM
4

i find it interesting that white men are being hated more and more for things done by them in the past as the groups they wronged become more and more equal
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:45 AM
1

"Though she expects me to recognize statistics as arguments, and not have them feel like that negated my own suffering from domestic violence. (which she is aware of) But if I flipped some stats the other way, she admits she would feel negated and not respond to them positively." To me that does not sound like she is discussing in good faith. If she has been like this in your other ideological conflicts as well then i would think they have a combative personality and aren't interested in having …
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:41 AM
2

probably just trolls, and i think what drives trolls is an enjoyment in the frustrations of others, as well as a sense of accomplishment they get when they cause a huge fuss and the recognition that goes along with it
/r/MensRights26/11/13 01:45 AM
0

i guess it would depend on the reasoning behind it. if they are only looking for women because they dont like guys, then it would be a problem. if their only looking for women because they are trying to find people to handle female customers who would prefer working with a women, or if they are looking for someone to fill teaching positions for womens programs then i see nothing wrong with it. as for the actual legality of it, i have no idea
/r/MensRights24/11/13 07:02 PM
9

a) this would probably be better posted to r/FeMRAdebates to get both sides views on the issue. b) IMO its probably because feminism is a more well established organization then any MR organization. as such, feminists feel a need to check their supporters while MRA's are happy just to have people. However, i have absolutely no data to back up my opinion, so i very well could be wrong
/r/MensRights24/11/13 09:14 AM
4

thats not an idea. thats a combative statement.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 08:21 AM
4

"marching like men"? i thought marching was marching. im confused.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 07:31 AM
1

"Skeptics, however, worry that it fuels a gender war and undermines attempts to minimize conflict in cases loaded with emotional baggage" well, yeah, of course it undermines attempts to minimizer conflicts. courts are the place where conflicts are SUPPOSED to play out in our modern society. emotional baggage should have no bearing on a court case for divorce or child support, just like it has no bearing on a murder trial or anything else
/r/MensRights24/11/13 07:28 AM
1

Because quotas are a way for politicians to say "see? I'm doing something!" And get votes. But I'm drunk right now so who knows? Thank god for spell chrck
/r/MensRights24/11/13 06:11 AM
2

just asking, have you ever been in an actual fight?
/r/MensRights23/11/13 09:12 PM
2

shrug people can get prince alberts at that age, why not let them do this too?
/r/MensRights22/11/13 03:33 PM
5

where did you go to school? that place sounds awesome. my teachers would shut us up even if we were on topic
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:30 AM
8

the middle of a lecture in an unrelated subject would not have been the time, i agree. however, this lecture had already come on to the topic, and when the teacher allowed the student to continue talking it was turned into an open discussion. this is the time to speak. the comparison to the christian is invalid, as both the situation and the type of "speaking" are different
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:03 AM
2

judging by history, we will continue our willful ignorance until theres an explosion of some sort
/r/MensRights13/11/13 07:54 AM
2

It's called adoption
/r/MensRights11/11/13 04:53 PM
2

Oh man. I wonder what the response would be if she failed to save a woman? Would the pressure to keep her in even be mentioned?
/r/MensRights11/11/13 03:44 PM
4

Probably because alarmism sells better than facts in today's world
/r/MensRights11/11/13 03:16 PM
16

They made the person getting examined pay for a court-ordered search? Wtf?
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:03 PM
3

Mobs have leaders?
/r/MensRights09/11/13 05:47 PM
2

they didnt delete all my comments, they kept the ones they liked. the handling of this by the mods, as well as the answer i got, is making me question wether i want to remain involved in all of this. this seems the same as the zero-tolerance policies schools have, and i despise the school policies because i had someone punch me so that we would both get suspended.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 05:19 PM
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MGM comments are not censored. You must have sounded like assholes. really? the reply i got from u/demmian was "you participated in derailing the thread with talks about MGM - same as 20 other people, who also got banned. I don't know what got into you people, to get you to derail our discussions on this scale, but when it happens like this, we act harsher than usual." an interesting thing to take note of, i was trying to get people to NOT talk about MGM, and keep the thread focused on FGM since…
/r/MensRights09/11/13 05:11 PM
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i was the other side of that conversation, and i got banned too. the answer i got from u/demmian when i asked for a reason is: "You participated in derailing the thread with talks about MGM - same as 20 other people, who also got banned. I don't know what got into you people, to get you to derail our discussions on this scale, but when it happens like this, we act harsher than usual."
/r/MensRights09/11/13 05:00 PM
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maybe you should see if theres something you can do about the flightyness? it certainly sounds like she would be a flight risk with the kids, is there any way to involve that? other than that all i can say is good luck
/r/MensRights07/11/13 07:04 AM
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so, basically one point that can be summed up as "Shut up and do what i say"
/r/MensRights07/11/13 04:35 AM
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Because patriarchy
/r/MensRights06/11/13 09:23 PM
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obviously some people are more equal than others
/r/MensRights30/10/13 11:58 PM
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Well thought out rebuttal, you've really changed my views
/r/MensRights30/10/13 06:55 PM
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That... Was astounding. Well written, obviously heartfelt, and true. This needs to be spread.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 02:53 AM
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There is no legal contract that can protect you. None.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 05:33 AM
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Yes, because everyone knows you remember things like that while drunk /s
/r/MensRights26/10/13 02:08 PM
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"Barnett's family was well connected." Sounds more like political power and connections being abused for personal/family use than rape culture to me. Those who are well connected often get away with all kinds of shit no one else ever would.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 04:18 PM
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guns are never to be pointed at people unless you want to kill them. the people doing the school shootings DO want to kill people. trying to teach them not to point a gun at someone would have no effect, and IMHO only re-enforce the idea "if you want to kill someone, use a gun"
/r/MensRights04/10/13 04:03 AM
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i think reading that link cost me a few dozen iq points
/r/MensRights04/10/13 03:58 AM
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Are you saying this has nothing to do with rights or that because the people involved are kids its not a MENS rights issue?
/r/MensRights04/10/13 03:57 AM
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She sounds like one of the people making things worse for everyone by using the current laws as a weapon. i would totally recommend documenting EVERY interaction with her from now on, and if you can get both video and audio recordings of what happens.
/r/MensRights04/10/13 03:52 AM
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Heads
/r/MensRights28/09/13 11:32 PM
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