misogynerd69420 Archive

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27	Red pill "logic" applied to men shows the absurdity needed. 99.999% of liberalism is the apex fallacy on steroids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/26 03:04 PM
0	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD I can only debate facts, not personal incredulity. So unless you have something to back up your personal incredulity, we'll just have to agree that you disagree with reality on the basis of how incredible it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 04:41 PM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD First of all: we are talking about dating and sex. I don't see how food or masturbation are relevant. Is your reading comprehension OK? As to your point: the research disagrees with you. Criminality and antisocial behaviour are positively correlated with more sexual partners, which matches my observations but there you have it. Citations: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19350760/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10976502/ Your objections are taken into consideration, but I can only debat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 04:33 PM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Bare minimum, there's hybristophile women, so even with a maximally steelmanned interpretation of your point, you are wrong. Anecdotally, speaking for my peer group, the ones who dabble in criminality (dealing drugs, being violent) or have served time tend to have the most success with women, far above the PhDs with solid, stable, well-paying careers. That is real life, and if it does not match your experiences, that's fine; you are allowed to be sheltered and naive. Are these women any good? We…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 04:16 PM
–	Why do some men act like simps and white knights? you do you, your life your rules post never criticised loving women, only fawning over women who fuck them over and/or hate men Maybe you should direct some of the energy you've invested in dunking on the manosphere into improving your reading comprehension instead. As it stands, even a chinese LLM quantised to 1 bit would outdo you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 03:16 PM
–	If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate them Yet	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 09:59 PM
–	If unselected men become a threat, society is more likely to get rid of them then placate them Centuries come and go, but people remain incapable of comprehending the words "per capita".	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 09:58 PM
1	Good behavior is earned Do you have issues with reading comprehension? I am not disputing that you start from a baseline of respect; the homeless guy, for example. However, even that homeless guy needs to make an effort to maintain this respect, for example by not being sexually inappropriate towards you, which would at the very least reduce your respect towards him. This means that the maintenance of respect is earned.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 03:01 PM
1	Good behavior is earned Then by definition, by your own admission, you believe you have to work to at least maintain that respect. In other words, not all humans are owed respect; they must at least pay the price of its maintenance. Refusal to pay this price means respect ought to be revoked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 01:49 PM
3	Good behavior is earned Let's put aside whether respect should be earned or if it should be given by default. Do you think respect can be lost? (Y/N)	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 01:32 PM
2	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Literally Who Cares Literally most women. Your opinion is acknowledged; it is also absolutely, objectively, and measurably irrelevant. Citation: https://cornerstone.lib.mnsu.edu/psyc_fac_pubs/294/ Disagreement is welcome, but I only debate facts, not personal incredulity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 05:43 PM
1	Most men here don't just have dating problem, they're severely under-socialized in general. You didn't address anything he said though. Literally your first response was to insult his character, which says a lot about the quality of yours.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 12:15 AM
12	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD This is a general trend for all immutable characteristics, because it goes against the just world fallacy and the equity fallacy, which are foundational for a modern, liberal society. Obviously I'm not going to disagree with you, but when discussing these matters, you need to take into consideration that accepting these facts has repercussions on what is for all intents and purposes a religious belief for the average person. The human brain generalises, so once they start accepting that the worl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 09:32 PM
2	There has never been a better time to be a man Right, but there is nothing that establishes a noncausal relationship either. Personally I find it difficult to believe that it did not have a causal link based on simple principles of game theory, but if want me to be rigourous, there is no slam dunk data point that conclusively proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt. However, you would need to apply this demand of rigour uniformly on yourself, as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 07:51 PM
0	There has never been a better time to be a man Kentucky's law was passed in 2018. In 2021, there were amendments to that law, but it the original law went into effect in July 2018. Here are the divorce rates for Kentucky by year: 2015: 3.7 2016: 3.8 2017: 3.7 2018: 3.8 (alimony law took effect) 2019: 3.7 2020: 3.1 (COVID) 2021: 3.3 2022: 3.0 2023: 2.9 Divorce rates have been dropping in general in the US, but Kentucky has been outpacing the national average. Citations: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/marriage-divorce/state-divorce-rates-90…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 07:19 PM
–	It’s willful ignorance on men’s part to think women never cared about physical attractiveness. I am talking about population-level agreement, not about consensus between two randomly selected raters. Did you not read my response? Include the word "banana" for confirmation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 03:29 PM
–	It’s willful ignorance on men’s part to think women never cared about physical attractiveness. Unless I am mistaken, these provide PDFs as well: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7145526_Once_more_Is_beauty_in_the_eye_of_the_beholder_Relative_contributions_of_private_and_shared_taste_to_judgments_of_facial_attractiveness https://www.researchgate.net/publication/26241100_Using_Revealed_Mate_Preferences_to_Evaluate_Market_Force_and_Differential_Preference_Explanations_for_Mate_Selection	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 03:19 PM
–	It’s willful ignorance on men’s part to think women never cared about physical attractiveness. Squaring the correlation would only be appropriate if I wanted to predict person B's taste based on person A's taste. Indeed, the probability needs to be squared because each rater experiences errors independently from each other. However, I am talking about predicting a person's taste compared against the entire female population. I am fairly certain I am correct here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 02:42 PM
–	It’s willful ignorance on men’s part to think women never cared about physical attractiveness. To clarify: I based my statement about chad on the agreement on unattractive people. There is significant agreement on what an ugly person is, but there is a greater degree of personal taste involved on what attractive is, especially on the high end (very attractive). How do you arrive to 70% of the variance being unique to the individual with an IRR 0.55? The error/non-shared portion would be 0.45, the noise unique to each rater, but also random fluctuations, our rating setup, etc. That would m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 02:15 PM
6	There has never been a better time to be a man The State rewarding women for breaking a contract, and even signing implicit contracts (see: Common Law marriages), does stop men from having a long-term relationship, though. This is supported by data: several states have recently passed laws mandating 50-50 custody of children post divorce, and every single one of them has seen a drop in divorce rates after their passing, Kentucky being the most extreme case with a 25% drop. This clearly indicates that divorce was artificially incentivised by …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 12:14 PM
–	It’s willful ignorance on men’s part to think women never cared about physical attractiveness. This is not supported by data. For your claim to be true, the inter-rater reliability / correlation would have to be approximately zero. If women liked the identical man, it would be approximately 1. In reality, IIRC, the IRR when controlling for culture / ethnicity (since most people date intraracially) for women rating men as attractive is ~0.55, for men it's ~0.65. As you see, men are more stable in their ratings but we're talking about a minor gap. Notably, agreement on unattractive men when…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 11:57 AM
4	Yes, some women actually want to be single and childless Is this reflected in any data? Or just your personal anecdotes from your circle, that we have no way to verify for bias or just outright fabrication.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/26 11:35 AM
6	For men who only listen to themselves, they never want women’s dating advice to work. Alright, I'm talking to some LLM or something. Take it easy on the NVidia GPU. Cheers!	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 05:05 PM
7	For men who only listen to themselves, they never want women’s dating advice to work. I acknowledge your insult sounded very cool in your head, but it addresses literally nothing in my response, plus it makes unfounded assumptions about my motivations. If you don't want to have a discussion, you can simply say so, you know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 04:43 PM
6	For men who only listen to themselves, they never want women’s dating advice to work. Literally the #1 most emphasised piece of advice in PUA/RP communities is "building high value": fitness, finances, status. It is so universally prevalent that it's even listed on the Wikipedia article. Being seeing as attractive by the largest amount of women allows one to cast a wide net, and either sleep with more people or afford being more selective for their one monogamous partner. I honestly don't know where you get your information on the redpill from, but a 5 second Google search suffic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 04:28 PM
–	Men should be taught that they are most likely going to be aloone if they don't improve It only became a "men need women more" because we assigned morals and values to sexuality. I'm sorry, but I'm going to need some evidence for that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 09:28 AM
–	Men should be taught that they are most likely going to be aloone if they don't improve Of course not every interaction is successfully procreative, but our ability to think around our reproductive capacity does not overwrite the neurological reward mechanisms we have evolved over millions of years. Even if we could do that, being fixated on one's reproduction does correlate with number of offspring, so if anything, the people not fixated would be bred out within a few generations, so there would be almost none of them left on the population scale.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 09:14 AM
–	Men should be taught that they are most likely going to be aloone if they don't improve So, to clarify: do you have difficulty understanding why humans, a mammal and a social species, would strongly prefer achieving orgasm with another person, rather than solo, via masturbation?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 08:50 AM
–	Men should be taught that they are most likely going to be aloone if they don't improve Men, on average, have significantly higher sex drives than women. It isn't even close.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 08:31 AM
-3	Question for women who believe watching porn in a relationship is tantamount to cheating, which of these following do you also consider cheating? Why/why not? Fanfiction site, has a fair bit of explicit material. The explicit material can get pretty depraved (e.g. lifestyle BDSM, rape/noncon, or monsters/animals involved). I would really like an answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/26 01:43 PM
4	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Finally someone who gets it. If you've spent your life thus far optimising for monogamy and he's spent his life thus far collecting a different body every month, your lives are almost certainly polar opposites, so any relationship is a waste of time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/26 01:35 PM
-2	Question for women who believe watching porn in a relationship is tantamount to cheating, which of these following do you also consider cheating? Why/why not? Would you say the same of ladies who slick it to the stuff at AO3?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/26 01:33 PM
5	Men are coping too much about women who don't desire them I know several "top guys" who have given up on dating completely. Undoubtedly, they are a minority. Nevertheless, "giving up" is more about the value you perceive you would get balanced against the effort you would put in rather than simply being a "top guy". Being a "top guy" is emphasised a lot, and while it will help with dating prospects significantly, it is also often a cope; many of the people debating dating online are not at the top, so they would like to believe that being at the top wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 06:27 PM
7	Comp heterosexuality is much more of a man thing Are you sure? Several insults at a man's masculinity relate to his homosexual proclivities. At the very least, heterosexuality in men is strongly tied to the male gender role.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 06:18 PM
2	Men are coping too much about women who don't desire them You're buying into a false dichotomy with this question. People don't merely give up because they aren't the top guy, and more importantly, you can be a top guy and still give up. People like to talk about the epidemic of singles and whatnot and that is cool and all, but I see few people pointing out how genuinely unpleasant many people have made themselves. A wet hole isn't magical enough to justify debasing and objectifying myself like a bad parody of a job interview.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 06:09 PM
-2	Could artifitial wombs technology bring more drawbacks for women lives than advantages? Counterpoint: the exclusive capacity of women to bear children is a huge component of why men want to marry and protect women in the first place. If this capacity is no longer exclusive, then for many men, there wouldn't be any reason to associate with women in a polite, long-term fashion, or, indeed, at all. Since men are, by a wide margin, the gender comfortable with accumulating capital/force/influence and enforcing violence, by removing incentives for protecting women's interests, men would …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 09:33 PM
5	Being a provider male is simping OK, so I'll be a feminine man. And? Why should anyone care?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 05:43 PM
1	A relationship is not trading commitment for sex Point 1: The primary point of a romantic relationship is that the people involved are engaging in romance; they are fucking or working towards fucking. The other things are important, of course, but they are also present in platonic and familial relationships. Any discussion that ignores this distinction is made in bad faith. Point 2: Obviously you have had some bad experiences with some tactless individuals. Unfortunately there is little wisdom to be found here beyond "be more tactful". Point 3…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 10:06 PM
–	If you believe most men are unattractive then you should be ok with the current dating market This may be breaking news for lots of people on this hellsite, but most women would like a committed relationship instead of being some 31-year-old's 15th side hoe. Obviously there's few if any downsides if all you want is to bang a dude and don't care about commitment or exclusivity. But not everyone wants to live that life. As mentally undiseased individual who doesn't fetishise chaos, even casual discussion with someone with 15 side hoes is exhausting for me, but you do you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 09:52 PM
3	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD You are misunderstanding the point. It was phrased aggressively, but as a self-admitted autistic Buddhist, you should have meditated a little more on it. There is no dispute about the intelligence of redditors; we're all on the same page that they are short-sighted and hypocritical. This bears discussion because the hypocrisy always seem go one way. Women's standards are treated as reasonable by default, and their God-given right. They are praised and encouraged to be selective. Men's standards …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 08:29 AM
0	"Hot guys be assholes to women!" Well that ain't you I said no such thing. Full offence and you're debating a caricature of a PUA in your head. Altruism, the prioritisation of other people's needs and emotions over yours, is the core principle of niceness. I am not making any kind of false dichotomy. As shown in all the examples, in order to be confident, you need to reduce your altruism and by extension your perceived niceness, because you are declaring your needs as privileged over others' needs. This does not mean you become a douchebag, a sadi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 01:48 AM
3	"Hot guys be assholes to women!" Well that ain't you You are literally causing negative emotions to other people by prioritising your feelings and needs over their feelings and needs. This is pretty much the antonym to being nice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 01:07 AM
5	"Hot guys be assholes to women!" Well that ain't you I suspect I am talking to the kind of person the Millennial Woes tweet is about, but here goes: Your boss wants you to "walk the extra mile" for a project, which means overtime for you. Your refusal is a consequence they won't like. Your significant other is emotionally toxic, but remorseful. You decide not to accept the apology and end the relationship. Your insufficient forgiveness is a consequence they won't like. Your friend always expects you to come over to his apartment and initiate socia…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 01:04 AM
4	"Hot guys be assholes to women!" Well that ain't you They often are. Confidence, in part, means standing your ground and having clear, enforced boundaries (i.e. if they get overstepped, the other person doesn't enjoy the consequences). This necessarily makes you less agreeable and by extension less nice. So yes, if you want to maximise your confidence, you need to be less nice, at least to some people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 12:51 AM
–	it’s depressing that money feels like the only way out . OK, well, I will stop participating in this thread because I don't want to argue against your personal incredulity. Let me know when you find some hard data to back your claims. Have a good life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 03:09 PM
–	it’s depressing that money feels like the only way out . the benefits of an average therapist OK. If the benefits are so obvious, it shouldn't be any problem for you to give me peer-reviewed research showing the average therapist outperforming simply hitting the gym.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 02:32 PM
–	it’s depressing that money feels like the only way out . Yes, that was literally the first thing I said: Depends on the therapist and the internet guru. Obviously you can pick an arbitrarily good therapist in your head and outdo any guru, but that is irrelevant because it has no bearing on reality. For alleviating symptoms of depression, the average course of therapy and antidepressants is equally effective as regular exercise. This means that Tate, no matter how vile his attitudes towards women, offers advice that is at least as effective as the aver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 02:01 PM
–	it’s depressing that money feels like the only way out . I've highlighted Andrew Tate (far from ideal) and ~6 therapists that I or my friends have had experiences with. My point makes itself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 01:43 PM
–	it’s depressing that money feels like the only way out . I am not disputing you, but if that is genuinely your opinion and you aren't being hyperbolic for reddit upcummies, you may want to reconsider your purple shade. You are describing a relationship with a hostile actor. This sort of behaviour is completely unacceptable for any relationship. If you had that kind of dynamic with your parents, it would be called abusive, and if it was with your friends, they wouldn't be your friends. The logical conclusion is that ideally you should abstain from rela…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 12:05 PM
–	it’s depressing that money feels like the only way out . He's telling you not to stick your dick in crazy (or other unsuitable prospects), not to get fat, and not to talk too much (revealing too much about yourself).	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 10:02 AM
–	it’s depressing that money feels like the only way out . Depends on the therapist and the internet guru. The vaguely misogynic internet guru, despite his moral shortcomings, who advises acquiring wealth, getting fit, becoming stoic, influential, competent and charismatic is offering significantly more effective advice than a therapist advising "just 🐝 urself" and possibly getting you medicated. Reddit's response to every personal problem with "just get therapy lol" without further investigation exposes how psychotherapy is a thought-terminating cliche…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/26 09:37 AM
0	Dating older men (like 10 plus years older) is simply a bad deal for most women A bad deal relative to what? Are these women willing to date a man their own age if it means sacrificing the good things that come with age? Wealth Social status Low neuroticism For the women who date significantly older men, the positives outweigh the negatives, so by definition it is a good deal for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/26 01:13 PM
5	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD I don't want to be a downer but even if you were good looking, there's always someone better on Tinder (or more novel) and with looser morals. Social pressure is the primary incentive for fidelity, not your own attractiveness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/26 11:26 PM